Dunwoody daycare trial | Day 11

Judge: Gregory Adams

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4:37 p.m.: Court is adjourned for the day.

4:26 p.m.: Crawford, questioned by Geary, testifies that it is implausible that someone could be psychotic and no one around them not be aware of it at some point. It's not something that can be turned on or off at will, she says. When she interviewed Neuman in jail last fall, she said he described bizarre hallucinations of a large demon as high as the ceiling, with a round face and bald head and a voice like singer Barry White. Judge Adams breaks in and ends court for the day.

4:26 p.m.: Crawford testifies that she first looks at whether a defendant knows the difference between right and wrong and whether there is a mental condition that would prevent a defendant from knowing the difference. She said she interviewed Neuman in November and reviewed thousands of pages of discovery documents, including the results of psychiatrist Marks' examination, before and after examining Neuman. There were 7,000 to 8,000 pages of information on the case to be reviewed.

4:15 p.m.: The defense asks Crawford whether she is licensed to practice in Georgia, and she answers "no." Crawford, however, says it is not a requirement to have a license to conduct forensic examinations in the state. After a defense challenge, Judge Adams qualifies Crawford as an expert witness.

4:09 p.m.: Crawford, questioned by Geary, said she has conducted "hundreds" of forensic examinations dealing with insanity, and she has testified between 300 and 400 times in cases dealing with sanity and competency issues.

4 p.m.: The prosecution calls Dr. Pamela Crawford to the stand. She is a psychiatrist and a forensic psychiatrist in criminal cases. She is in private practice and works as a psychiatrist for state of South Carolina, specializing with treatment of the chronically mentally ill. The Emory University graduate, who has also practiced in Georgia, is also a former Air Force psychiatrist and a hostage negotiator.

3:55 p.m.: Jury is called back into court and testimony is about to resume with a rebuttal witness.

3:47 p.m.: Judge orders a 10 minute break after both the defense and prosecution rest.

3:46 p.m.: After Marks is questioned briefly by the defense attorney, Marks is released from the witness stand. The jury is dismissed briefly, and  Neuman is asked again whether he wants to testify, and he says no.

3:42 p.m.: Geary asks Marks whether it is possible she could be fooled during a mental evaluation. Marks says "Yes." Geary then asks whether it is possible that Neuman may have lied to her about his delusions, his concern about the Sneiderman children or any other information on which she based her finding after seven hours of questioning him., and  could she be wrong about her conclusion. "Yes," Marks answered.

3:36 p.m.: Judge Adams asks members of the jury to stand and stretch.

3:34 p.m.: Geary asks Marks about why she came to the conclusion that Neuman didn't know right from wrong. Marks says Neuman never told her that he did not know right from wrong, but she came to that conclusion after her evaluation of him. Geary asks that if he didn't know right from wrong, why did he try to hide the fact that he purchased a gun, used a disguise and took other actions to hide the killing. Marks said Neuman's actions were directed at keeping the actions from Andrea Sneiderman.

3:21 p.m.: Geary questions why Marks did not recommend treatment for Neuman when she found him to be insane in September 2011. Marks says it was not her role to recommend treatment as a forensic consultant. She said she probably would have if she'd thought Neuman was suicidal at the time.

3:15 p.m.: Geary asks Marks why it took so long for Neuman to act on his belief that the children faced imminent danger since he first brought up the concerns in July. Marks says Neuman's belief was irrational, and since he was delusional that would explain why he didn't act on his belief sooner.

3:08 p.m.: Testimony turns to Neuman's belief that the Sneiderman children faced imminent danger from Rusty Sneiderman. Marks said Neuman believed that the children were at some level of serious harm, and it was an irrational belief. This first surfaced in July.

3:00 p.m.: Geary: Is it possible that there's no erotomania. Marks: Yes, it's possible. But she says Neuman still had an exaggerated belief about their relationship.

2:58 p.m.: Geary questions how Neuman could not remember whether he had sex with Andrea when he remembered so many other details of their activities. Marks said Neuman could have been "blocking" his memory of that.

2:52 p.m.: Marks says Neuman's self-stimulation three or four times a day would not by itself show he was bipolar. But she says even if he lied about that it wouldn't necessarily mean he wasn't bipolar but she would want to know why he lied. She says the lying could be part of his delusion.

2:45 p.m.: Judge Adams calls for break after Marks responds that there was no independent confirmation of Neuman's "hypersexual" activities because "he did that in private, fortunately."

2:35 p.m.: Geary and Marks are debating whether Neuman had "manic episodes." Geary says Neuman never exhibited physical evidence of a manic episode. Marks says it would not necessarily be evident. Geary says Neuman's actions could "otherwise be ascribed to a normal person." Marks agrees. "Can someone have manic speech and no one notice?" Geary asks. Marks says it is possible. "If there is no evidence of manic speech does that bother you?" Marks responds, "No." She says just because a person is not exhibiting that symptom, it doesn't mean he's not bipolar. She says Neuman's "hypersexuality" stands out as a symptom.

2:27 p.m.: Marks says she never spoke with the relatives of Neuman who allegedly suffered from bipolar disorder. "I didn't do anything to validate that," she says. Geary asks if Neuman is lying about depression, would that change her diagnosis; she answers "Maybe, maybe not."

2:25 p.m.: Marks concedes she never talked to "Ruth," the person with whom Neuman was living in the months before the shooting.

2:20 p.m.: Geary repeats the assertion that Marks didn't have all the information because she only read a summary. She responds, "I didn't need to read 100 pages about how he rented a car."

2:17 p.m.: Marks  says "it's always possible" that Neuman lied to her. She denies Geary's assertion that Neuman was telling different stories to different people.

2:15 p.m.: Marks said "may or may not have changed my opinion" if Neuman had told a psychologist that he knew the shooting was wrong.

2:05 p.m.: Prosecutor Don Geary begins cross-examination of Dr. Tracey Marks, the psychiatrist who testified for the defense. Geary says the evaluation she used was only an 80-page summary of 8,000 pages of investigation. Marks concedes the summary prepared by the defense could have omitted information that could have changed her mind.

1:45 p.m.: Judge Adams advises Neuman that he has the right to testify if he wishes; Neuman states that he will not testify at the trial. Adams tells Neuman he can change his mind, then orders a break so the prosecution can review the notes that Marks used during her testimony.

1:42 p.m.: Answering a question from Rubin, Marks states, "It's my opinion that Mr. Neuman was insane at the time of the shooting in that he was unable to distinguish between right and wrong due to a mental disorder." Rubin ends questioning of Marks.

1:35 p.m.: She says at one point during her session with Neuman, he asked her if he should call Andrea because the two of them were going to be together. She explained to him that he was in jail -- "I felt like I was talking to a 6-year-old" -- and asked how the public would respond to he and Andrea being together, and he responded, "Maybe I could get plastic surgery."

1:34 p.m.: Psychiatrist Dr. Tracey Marks returns to the stand, being questioned by defense attorney Bob Rubin. Marks discusses tests she conducted to determine malingering, or faking, psychiatric symptoms. She says the three possible results of the test are genuinely responding, cant tell either way or not genuinely responding. The results from Neuman's test she says, was "genuinely responding."

1:30 p.m.: Judge Adams returns to the courtroom, huddles with attorneys.

11:58 a.m.: Judge Adams calls for lunch break until 1:30 p.m.

11:55 a.m. Rubin asks Marks about malingering. She says people who are faking will usually give themselves away. "It's really hard to fake mental illness," she says. She says there is no evidence that Neuman looked up psychiatric terms on the Internet. She noted that she didn't base her opinion solely on what Neuman told her, but other people's observations that "help support that the things he's reporting are genuine."

11:50 a.m.: Marks says Neuman's attempts to conceal the gun purchase, wear a disguise, evade the police and deny his involvement to police don't mean Neuman knew what he did was wrong: He didn't want Andrea to know he did it, she says.

11:40 a.m.: Adams upholds prosecution's objection to a question. Rubin rephrases the question. Marks analyzes Neuman's and Andrea's interactions and the "interpersonal priming, or stoking the fire" of Neuman. "We know that Hemy's hot-button issue is his childhood rejection," she says. Andrea's behavior, "I'm interested in you or I want you but I'm going to stay with my husband, who's not very vested in the children," stoked his behavior, Marks said. "Hemy hears 'I want you but I must stay with my husband" and that Rusty is doing the same thing to his children that his father did to him. Marks says Andrea's "back in forth, the I want you I don't want you," makes Hemy want her more. It fueled a "twisted attachment" to her, she says. It makes her more attractive to him, like a woman playing hard-to-get. She said the relationship was "very twisted."

11:35 a.m.: Marks says Neuman remembered what he did the day of the shooting and described the shooting to her. There was never any attempt to act like he didn't remember what he did, she says.

11:30 a.m.: Marks discusses "rescue fantasy" and says Neuman saw saving the Sneiderman children as "a mission." There was no evidence, she says, that Rusty was harming the kids and that's what makes Neuman's behavior "delusional."

11:27 a.m.: Marks describes a second trip to Greenville, when Neuman and Andrea Sneiderman went to the dance club. She says Neuman told a bar employee that Andrea "was dealing with a real jerk." Andrea later told Neuman their relationship couldn't continue. Then two days before the shooting Neuman goes to Andrea's house to work on a project, she says. This "continued the mixed messages," Marks says, "which continues to pull him in, to keep him in this relationship."

11:25 a.m.: After the  England trip, Andrea said she was still committed to her husband and their relationship couldn't go much further. But Neuman remained very involved with the Sneiderman children.

11:20 a.m.: Marks describes Neuman and Andrea's trip to England, where, he said "they talked like a couple."  Neuman said he believed they had sexual relations on the trip to England. Marks says Neuman forwarded emails to his realtor and a co-worker about their "magical" relationship. She says his behavior is consistent with her finding of psychosis and mania.

11:17 a.m.: Psychiatrist Tracey Marks continues testimony, describes an email in which Andrea send more than 100 photos of her daughter's birthday celebration to Hemy. This "went along with his whole idea of these children are his and he's very involved with whatever the children are doing." None of the photos had Rusty in them, which was "proof," Neuman said, that Rusty was harming the children.

11:15 a.m.: Adams returns to courtroom, calls jury back.

11:05 a.m.: Judge Adams calls for 10-minute break.

11:00 a.m.: Marks describes an overnight trip to Greenville, S.C., says they laid on the bed and watched the movie "The Goodbye Girl" and they kissed; he thought they had sex but he wasn't sure. He saw her come out of the bathroom and he compared her to Bathsheba. He describes an email that said it was one of the best nights she had had, but expressed "a lot of anger" about the trip. He then sent her an email asking her to marry him.

10:55 a.m.: After the Longmont trip, Marks says Neuman's emails became more personal about Andrea and her children. Andrea introduces Neuman and Rusty. There were two meetings and Neuman told Andrea he wasn't really interested in going into business he was just interested in "hanging around" and making sure the kids were being properly cared for. Andrea tells Neuman that Rusty is not taking caring of the children. Marks says Neuman said he had a second visit from the angel, who says Rusty is harming the kids and Neuman has to protect them. "He told me that he needed to protect them from suffering the same fate that he'd suffered as a child in terms of being abandoned and rejected," Marks says.

10:50 a.m.: Marks describes Andrea going on a business trip to Longmont, Colo.; Neuman decides he's also going. He called and tried to have a message and chocolates and flowers delivered to her room. He called three different employees attempting to do this. She meets him at the airport, they have dinner and he tells her he's the best father for her children. She emphasized she was committed to her husband.

10:48 a.m.: Marks interpreted the angel and demon as Neuman projecting his own thoughts and feelings into another being, much like a child's imaginary friend. "He did think it was real at the time he experienced these," but after talking extensively about it "he backpedaled" and said "maybe it wasn't real but it was real to me." She said "at the time, he thought it was real."

10:45 a.m.: Marks says Neuman never referred to the angel as Olivia Newton-John. He said that in an interview with another psychologist he said, at her suggestion, that the angel sounded something like Olivia Newton-John. She says he was "prompted" by the psychologist about Newton-John.

10:40 a.m.: Things became more romantic on a trip to Lake Tahoe, she says. He told her his feelings and she told him she was committed to Rusty. "He kissed her and gave her a foot massage," she says. When Neuman comes home he sees "the angel telling him that Andrea's children are his children and he needs to let her know that." The angel was feminine and that she had white robes and a vague face.

10:35 a.m.: In spring 2010 Neuman said he participated in Andrea Sneiderman's hiring and they took their first trip together in May of 2010. The next business trip was to Norfolk, Va., when he told Andrea about his experience in Israel. She says he "unloaded"  -- that had never even talked to his wife about many of these experiences. "He cries and I f eel it releases emotions he had a hard time dealing with." Marks says she considered this "odd" and caused her to question his judgment.

10:30 a.m.: The next incident was when he "bottomed out" around February 2010, Marks says. "He told me that ... in February is when the 'shack demon' returned," a experience similar to the shack in Israel. This time he said the demon said "come with me," which to him meant suicide. He said his financial problems, lack of recognition at work and marital problems contributed to his depression and thoughts of suicide.

10:25 a.m.: The next episode occurred in 2008, when he was very irritable and had an "explosive" incident at his niece's graduation. He was spending a lot of money, had large credit card debts. He removed money from his retirement funds but didn't pay off his debts; he spent more on a $30,000 landscaping project and a ring for his wife.

10:20 a.m.: Marks says Neuman never made comments or used terms to make her suspect that he was making things up. He had another "up period" when he moved from Israel to the United States in 2005.

10:15 a.m.: Marks says Neuman described "hypomanic" periods of being hyperactive, sleepless, at times feeling "on top of the world." These alternated with depressive episodes when he slept a lot, did very little and at times had suicidal thoughts. These episodes happened in high school and college. She describes another "up episode" at age 36 when he was working in Israel and suddenly moved to Florida, even though he had no job and no income. She says the "up and down" episodes "define bipolar disorder."

10:05 a.m.: Marks says Neuman felt "abandoned" and "orphaned" when he was sent to an Israeli boarding school at age 13. She says Neuman spent Jewish holidays alone in a "shack" at the boarding school and suffered his "first depressive episode," and said he saw a demon. She says he never called the demon "Barry White" or had Barry White's voice.

9:55 a.m.: Judge Adams enters courtroom. Defense witness Dr. Tracey Marks, a psychiatrist, is sworn in. "It is my opinion that Mr. Neuman was unable to distinguish the difference between right and wrong" due to a bipolar disorder when he committed the shooting, she says. "He did not think what he was doing was wrong." She says his experiences as a child contributed to his disorder. She says his father had an "explosive temper" and "was violent at times" and that his mother was frequently away, and Neuman felt "unprotected and unmothered."

9:50 a.m.: Judge Adams denies all three defense motions, calls for five-minute break.

9:47 a.m.: Judge Adams considering the arguments, remains in the courtroom.

9:40 a.m.: Geary is now responding to Peters' arguments, says his questions are "well within the law."

9:30 a.m.: Peters is now responding to Geary's arguments. He says the Internet searches by Neuman had nothing to do with "psychiatric symptoms." Peters cites rulings by Georgia courts that permit statements made during counseling sessions to be admitted into evidence.

9:22 a.m.: Geary responds for the prosecution, says the defense's own experts raised the issue of malingering. He also offers evidence that Neuman performed Internet searches on psychiatric matters. Geary is citing Georgia law, which he says permits the questions he has been asking.

9:20 a.m.: Peters says the defense is requesting a mistrial; if that is denied, they're requesting that the questions be struck and the jurors ordered to disregard the testimony; barring that, Peters asks the judge to order the prosecution to refrain from asking such questions.

9:15 a.m.: Peters continues to argue the motion, saying the prosecution has asked expert witnesses questions that the witnesses cannot answer completely due to rulings by the court limiting testimony about the Neumans' counseling sessions.

9:10 a.m.: Hemy Neuman's wife's attorney comes forward and attempts to make a point after Peters mentions the Neumans' marriage counseling sessions.  Judge Adams tells her to sit down and "don't do that again."

9:05 a.m.: Defense attorney Doug Peters says hypothetical question to defense psychologist Flores by prosecution about Neuman possibly malingering was improper and asked "without a good faith basis" in fact. He says another prosecution question about an Internet search Neuman performed on the term "psychiatric symptoms" was also asked without a good faith basis if fact.

9:00 a.m.: Judge Adams enters the courtroom. Judge and attorneys are discussing a motion by the defense regarding hypothetical questions asked of experts and striking testimony answering such hypothetical questions. Prosecutor Don Geary is suffering from a voice problem.