“Young women today in metropolitan areas” who are childless and single are out-earning childless, single young males. -- Genevieve Wood of the Heritage Foundation during comments April 8 on CNN
Why is it that women make 77 cents for every dollar a man earns?
To many Democrats, it symbolizes an unfairness in the pay structures of jobs across America. But conservatives say the situation is more complex and it’s as much about life choices as some fundamental inequality.
We watched the debate play out between former White House adviser Anita Dunn and conservative pundit Genevieve Wood of the Heritage Foundation on CNN’s “The Lead With Jake Tapper.”
“If you compare women to men in the same job with similar background, similar experiences that they bring to the table, the wage gap all but disappears,” Wood said. “Women have made great strides. Instead of celebrating that, this is a political year, the White House wants to portray this war on women.”
“Not only are the numbers wrong — young women today in metropolitan areas, for example, are actually outperforming males in that same category all over the country.”
Dunn pushed back.
“I’m going to jump in a little on that because I think that it’s true that women are making enormous progress, but you know, as well as I do, that as they get older in the workforce, that those disparities start to grow and there are all kinds of reasons that that happens and an important discussion across the board is how do we continue to make sure that the progress continues,” she said.
PolitiFact has given you the nuts and bolts about the 77 cents statistic: Basically, there is a wage gap, but it tends to disappear when you compare women and men in the exact same jobs who have the same levels of experience and education.
We at PunditFact, an affiliate of PolitiFact, want to look at the argument being offered by conservatives. We decided to check Wood’s comment: “Young women today in metropolitan areas, for example, who are childless, single young women are actually outperforming males in that same category all over the country.”
Basis of the claim
Wood directed us to a 2012 U.S. News and World Report article that was reposted on the website of the conservative American Enterprise Institute.
The article includes the following line: “Census data from 2008 show that single, childless women in their 20s now earn 8 percent more on average than their male counterparts in metropolitan areas.”
That matches up to what Wood said on CNN.
Drilling down further, the reference comes more directly from an analysis of Census Bureau data performed by James Chung of Reach Advisors. Reach Advisors is a private research firm based in New York.
Chung spent about a year analyzing 2008 data from the Census Bureau’s American Community Survey, looking at the earnings of men and women in metropolitan areas. The actual study was never released, just some of the findings, Chung told PunditFact this week.
Among what was released in September 2010 was this: The median full-time salaries of young women in America’s metropolitan areas are 8 percent higher than those of the guys in their peer group.
A breakdown provided for Time magazine included a look at specific cities. In Atlanta, young unmarried childless women made 21 percent more than men, Chung found. In Los Angeles, young women made 12 percent more than their cohorts. The news also was reported by NPR and CBS News.
Chung said he has not updated his analysis to how the figures have changed since 2008 and “no longer circulates (the analysis) as current since it’s now four years out of date.” No one else, that we’re aware of, has attempted to re-create Chung’s specific analysis, and we found no criticism of his methodology.
We did come across an analysis by Pew Research that looked at earnings trends for all women between 25 and 34 (a broader and older group). Compared with all men of the same age, Pew Research found women earn 93 percent of what a man earns. That’s a smaller gap than when considering all women and all men, Pew found.
Analyzing Wood’s statement
We asked Chung for his take on Wood’s comment.
While Wood is careful to note that she was talking about “childless, single young women” in metropolitan areas, Chung said Wood failed to note that the analysis concerned median incomes between men and women.
Why is that important?
Median income figures look at earnings in the aggregate, rather than compare like jobs or professions. That leaves the claim open to the same criticism Republicans levy against Democrats when they claim women earn 77 cents for every $1 a man does. (Namely, that the statistic isn’t a true apples-to-apples comparison.)
In the case of Chung’s findings, the reason young women in metropolitan areas earn more than young men is that they are 50 percent more likely to have graduated from college.
“As a result, they populate more of the entry-level knowledge-based economy jobs than young men,” Chung said.
Chung said it “would be totally incorrect to imply that these women outearn men with similar jobs or similar educations.”
“The bottom line is that in a world where most players are looking for a sound bite to support a specific position, this is actually a rather complex issue,” Chung said. “Things aren’t exactly as equal as some people say, but it’s not always as dire as others say.”
Our ruling
Wood said, “Young women today in metropolitan areas, for example, who are childless, single young women are actually outperforming males in that same category all over the country.”
The statement tracks back to a credible analysis of 2008 Census Bureau data that looks at median incomes in metropolitan areas — a fact that Wood ignores.
But she gets most of the other details correct, and while the information is now 6 years old, we were unable to track down more recent research to confirm or disprove the point.
Finally, we should note that this comparison holds true because childless, single young women tend to have more education and qualify for higher paying jobs.
Wood’s statement is accurate but needs clarification. We rate it Mostly True.
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