Rochelle Herman-Walrond, who sits down with Dr. Phil, recorded five years of conversations with the former Subway spokesman after she became suspicious of his interest in middle school girls.

On the tapes, Fogle discusses what type of victims he looked for and his process for getting closer to the children. She came forward after he asked about setting up cameras in her children's bedrooms, a CBS report said.

She expressed grief over the conversations to Dr. Phil.

Fogle pleaded guilty to child pornography and child sex in August. He has agreed to pay his victims $1.4 million in restitution, according to CBS news.

He will be sentenced in November.

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