His frank words come following the shooting deaths of nine African-Americans in Charleston, South Carolina, by a white man.

The podcast also touched on gun violence and the safety laws surrounding them.

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Pastor Raphael Grant (right) delivers the message during a service in front of the burned-out Prayer City Eagles Chapel International Ministries in Austell on Sunday, Oct. 5, 2025. (Ben Gray for the AJC)

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