Florida State recruiting mailbag: How will 2017 season impact recruiting?

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Have Florida State football recruiting questions? We’ve got answers. Join us every Thursday for the Florida State DieHards recruiting mailbag to discuss Seminoles recruiting. This week, we discuss how this season’s struggles could impact recruiting,  Miami’s pursuit of 3-star DE Patrick Joyner and Florida State’s prospects among offensive line recruits. 


This week, we tackle a few questions from our Facebook live show that happens each Wednesday night at 8:30 pm ET.

First up, Johnny Pizarro asks how the Seminoles on-field struggles this season will affect recruiting?

The answer is somewhat complicated, but I’ll break it down using two answers.

In the short-term, I think the effect will be dependent on what changes, if any, are made to coach Jimbo Fisher’s staff after the season. After all, recruiting is based on relationships. If Fisher changes things around and brings in new coaches, you could see some movement in Florida State’s 2018 class with some players going that are currently on the commit list and new players coming in. That’s simply the nature of the beast in recruiting anytime there are changes within a program.

I don’t think it will be anything drastic — like say, half of the commit list — deciding to go elsewhere. Another thing to consider is with it being so late in the process, most schools have limited spots to offer so seeing I wouldn’t bank on the bottom falling out for the Seminoles.

In the long-term, Florida State is still Florida State. A majority of the recruits in the 2018, 2019 and 2020 classes grew up seeing the Seminoles dominate and send players to the NFL. One bad season won’t change that. Even if Fisher makes changes, the program is located in one of the most fertile areas in the country in terms of proximity for talent. Even thinking back to when the program has struggled, talent was rarely the issue as to why that was the case. Assuming the Seminoles get things back on track next season, it will be business as usual in Tallahassee sooner than later.

Next up, Alex Jimmerson asked about 3-star Homestead [Fla.] South Dame defensive end Patrick Joyner, who is currently committed to Florida State.

As Alex noted, Joyner has visited the Hurricanes 4 times since September — with his latest trip coming last weekend for the showdown against Virginia Tech.

Joyner took his official visit to Florida State in late October when the Seminoles hosted Louisville. Coming out of that visit, he appeared to be solid in his commitment with FSU.

He still might be. One thing to consider about his visits to Miami is the role proximity plays in the ease of taking visits to see the Hurricanes. That said, the frequency with which he has checked out the program suggests that there is more to it than simply taking trips just for fun.

Miami is having a great year and coach Mark Richt and his staff have done a great job in trying to build a wall in keeping South Florida talent from escaping the area. With another high profile contest this weekend against Notre Dame at home, it will be interesting to see if Joyner pops up to visit the Hurricanes again.

Something has to give and it’s likely that this recruitment will have more twists and turns until Joyner signs a letter of intent on National Signing Day. The Seminoles will have to continue to recruit him aggressively in order to hold onto his pledge, because it’s clear Miami has made him a priority down the stretch as well.

Jothan Virgil asks about Florida State’s prospects on the offensive line in the 2018 class.

Let’s start with what we know.

Florida State has three pretty good 4-star offensive line pledges in center Verdis Brown, guard Christian Meadows and tackle Christian Armstrong. Brown and Armstrong are both scheduled to be on campus in January as early enrollees.

Assuming all three of those pledges stick, that’s a solid foundation to build on for this class at offensive line.

Now, let’s try to tackle the unknown.

Florida State is recruiting a handful of blue-chip, elite offensive lineman such as 5-star tackles Jackson Carman and Brey Walker, 4-star tackle William Barnes and 4-star guard Trey Hill to name a few.

Barnes and Hill were frequent visitors to campus in the offseason. Walker, who is committed to Oklahoma, took an official visit to Florida State in September the weekend of the N.C. State game. Carman is due in for an official visit next weekend when the Seminoles host Delaware State.

Florida State would gladly take any of these four players. The problem is that as things currently stand, the Seminoles are probably not in the top two or three for any of them. At one point, they probably were in the lead group with Barnes and Hill, but not getting either on campus during the fall hurt their chances with both players.

For now, the Seminoles have to focus on keeping their committed players in the fold and swing for the fences with the players they are able to get on campus. The offensive line class would be solid if it ended up with the three current commitments.

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