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By falcon21

February 18, 2009 8:04 PM | Link to this

In a dream world the falcons get a second round pick but this is the real world. A six or seven round pick is possible but doughtful. He will probably be cut.

By Sly Mitchell

February 18, 2009 8:17 PM | Link to this

After anyone pays their debt to society for criminal behavior, they should be free to seek gainful employment. PETA should not continue to use Michael Vick as a poster boy for cruelty to animals. He has served in prison, paid a huge financial penalty, and like anyone else, deserves to be free to chose his lifestyle beyond that. Any true Falcon Fan is excited about next year, and only interested in what moves will make the team better. If he can still play, and the Falcons can get a 3rd round pick for him, great. Judging from the about face of the 49ers, i.e., coach says “maybe”, management says “not interested”, it’s apparent the backlash will continue against MV7, despite the fact that he has been found guilty, sentenced and served the time for the crime. Give the man a break.

By falcon21

February 18, 2009 8:30 PM | Link to this

You are right Sly,he has paid his debt and will make some team better.I just hope it is not in our division.

By dcarter

February 18, 2009 8:42 PM | Link to this

Teams are obviously not going to play there hands to early in this situation… The sweepstakes wont heat up until Vick is actually free to do workouts for other teams and possibly construct an incentive laden deal….

Its easy to speculate when the man hasnt had a chance to workout or be interview by other teams , something that the falcons would obviously allow since they are seeking to cut ties with the once face of the franchise QB. Vick has paid his debt to society and the NFL considering that he was suspended before his trial ever took place… In my opinion most of these teams will take the non-committial stance until he is free and reinstated.. But think about the logistics of the situation:

Would you rather give a totally unproven QB such as Stafford or Sanchez a 30 million dollar signing bonus or sign a proven Vick to an incentive laden contract and fill up those empty seats???? Not to mention the fact that despite what any of us might think or say Vick still remains probaly the most one of the NFL exciting players and highest grossing commodities in terms of jersey sales….. get a grip people #7 is gonna come back with a vengence…..

By beachsidebulldawg

February 18, 2009 9:53 PM | Link to this

Remember Mike Vick in his last college game? His team did not win, but he proved to be a gladiator. The gladiator will enter the coliseum again. He will compete until vanquished. He did not eat the dogs.

By Tim Parker

February 19, 2009 6:06 AM | Link to this

Nobody wants to pay for Blank’s $134 million dollar mistake; however, the Falcons are still in the cat-bird’s seat. They can choose to fight to keep him from being reinstated. They can suspend him if the NFL reinstates him.

There is no hope for a team to make a trade. Other teams that might be interested in Vick will just play the waiting game hoping that Blank will get impatient and cut Vick. Blank is a little more savvy than that. He will play the waiting game and just suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team and let more of his contract to expire.

Vick’s only hope is to come to the Falcons, voluntarily renegotiate his contract, and request a trade. Why would you a team want to take a huge hit for a player that albeit is talented , but frankly was was a marginal QB at best? Vick was an undisciplined, egocentric thug. Who needs that negative influence on their team?

Personally, I hope he never plays in the NFL again. He doesn’t deserve it.

By Birdfan

February 19, 2009 7:50 AM | Link to this

beachsidebulldawg

You are right, Vick did not eat the dogs. But he did electrocute, drown and otherwise maim and physically abuse them, didn’t he?

By eazy

February 19, 2009 7:54 AM | Link to this

Tim Parker screw you, the man has paid his debt to society and did his time. It is OK to kill a baby, but illegal to kill dogs huh. That just goes to show you how screwed up America is. Why don’t PETA be punished they put dogs to sleep every day, Asssssss Hooooole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Zoomie

February 19, 2009 8:33 AM | Link to this

Good post, Sly; you’ve got it right. He paid the debt sanctioned by us all; it is our representatives that crafted the laws under which he was convicted and determined the sentences served under transgression of the law. When the man gets out of prison, he should be allowed to pursue his livelihood without further sanction on our part. I also agree with dcarter: there will be a lot of behind-the-scenes wrangling to find a way to suit-up MV for some needy team. The Falcons will play the situation to their advantage and get as much for him as possible. I wish MV the best of luck — and for those who want to grind this man into the ground to satisfy your personal sense of vengeance, I wish you the worst.

By snuffy smith

February 19, 2009 8:53 AM | Link to this

Let him work out with the team this season. You are gonna pay for him anyway. Hes done his time give him a chance to redeem himself. He is a natural athelete , and could suprise you. Not saying I want him over Matty Ice (love the kid ), but If he shows good in training and plays well in preseason we can probhably unload him prior to the start of the season and get a better pick for him in 2010. Teams seem to be alot looser with picks they havent recieved. And by season start someones gonna be short a QB.Best of luck Vick, no hard feelings.

By Rob

February 19, 2009 9:38 AM | Link to this

He wasn’t even a great QB. His only fame was his scrambling ability and no team will be willing to sacrafice a draft pick of any kind for that. Now he’s got the dog hater label attached to him so he’s a PR nightmare. These teams also have to contend with what the fans think when they sign somebody. Let’s face it, Vick will NOT sell tickets. So after all that, all you have is just another schlub looking for an NFL gig. Atlanta will have to cut their losses and just release this clown. Any respectable city would not touch him with someone elses 10 foot pole let alone their own.

By Blake

February 19, 2009 9:52 AM | Link to this

My guess would be that the Falcons get a late round pick for him. Most likely from a system desperate for a quarterback. Of course teams are currently saying they are not interested in him. It’s all a a part of the trading game. No one wants to appear anxious because it forces their hand to give up too much for him. Vick will go to Detroit or San Francisco.

By cowboy.jones

February 19, 2009 10:08 AM | Link to this

if these peta people putt there mines in helping homeless people, cancer people,our solder,elder people, hiv people,people loseing homes ,kids in gangs on drugs.This is the USA we need go back to the old days,putting man before dogs,cats,rats or what ever.

By STILL LOYAL

February 19, 2009 10:10 AM | Link to this

Tim Parker must b a Redneck.

By HeWasAGiant

February 19, 2009 10:32 AM | Link to this

The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

By D. Bell

February 19, 2009 10:58 AM | Link to this

His only chance is to re-do his deal. No team will take the contract and the negative press.

Consider this: He’s a running quarterback who hasn’t had space to run in quite some time. How good can he still be after this long away from sports?

By Troy

February 19, 2009 11:11 AM | Link to this

We can expect to get nothing for him. Why would a team trade something for him knowing that if he’s re-instated, we’ll cut him if we can’t get a trade?

Teams will just wait for us to cut him and then pick him up after that.

By Beretta

February 19, 2009 11:11 AM | Link to this

I agree with Sly and the others who say he should be allowed to pusue employment in the NFL. When his sentence is up, the slate should be cleaned. I don’t want him back with the Falcons; they’ve moved on and there’s no place for him here. But, I sincerely wish him the best of luck and hope to see him on the field again. However, the reality is that he’s a target of several organizations who have an agenda to push. What team is going to want to deal with the protests, press conferences and the media attention. They risk backlash from the public, their fans and sponsors. He’s got a PR problem, and he’s going to need to hire someone to help him fix it. He’ll need to do some public service work and show that he’s accepted the consequences of his actions and takes responsibility for what he’s done. It’s not entirely fair, but it’s what it is. I wish him well. No hard feelings from this lifelong Falcon fan.

By Flafalcon

February 19, 2009 11:39 AM | Link to this

As a long time Falcon fan I was upset and hurt by all the deceit of Michael Vick. he really put the city of Atlanta and the team in a funk that it took a year to get out of. I was really thinking it would take years to recover. Given all that he has paid the price in more ways then one. I think all of the other teams that may be interested are trying to get him for a steal which is going to hurt us. we will take a big hit with the cap and not get anything in return. Its going to be like tearing the scab off an not so old wound.

By TNGizmo

February 19, 2009 11:53 AM | Link to this

Forget about a trade unless Atlanta agrees to pay part of his salary. Every team knows the Falcons will cut Vick. Why trade for him. MV7 may end up playing in the CFL.

By Karma

February 19, 2009 12:29 PM | Link to this

Falcons are screwed!

No trade

No draft picks

Vick gets cut

Gets picked up and makes playoffs

Signs monster deal in 2010

Falcons miss playoffs (4th toughest sched)

Karma is a mutha!

By UnderDawg

February 19, 2009 12:33 PM | Link to this

Maybe he can go on out to Seattle and be a coach-killer again.

By Leon

February 19, 2009 12:35 PM | Link to this

Michael Vicki should be able to play again. He has paid his due. What he did was wrong but he did not shoot, kill or got caught during or selling drug like some player have in the past and they are still playing on some teams. The only thing I would do is trade him to a different team outside of the division and that way they would not play one another until the playoff if Atlanta get their this coming year. Let the two opposit teams meet in the playoff not during the year. He will probably go to Dallas they always seems to get the bad boys and I really hate “Dallas”. “GO FALCONS GO”

By madog

February 19, 2009 12:38 PM | Link to this

The Falcons will not get anything for Vick. after June first they will probably have have to release him. As far as the Falcons suspending again, you bet the union will be very involved to insure that does not happen. It’s called res juta carta or double joeparty. You can’t punish a person twice for the same offense.

By Mr. Charlie

February 19, 2009 12:58 PM | Link to this

All you braniacs have me ROTFLMAO! Res juta carta…puhlease give me a break! This is a football blog, not night court!

However, Vick does deserve to be reinstated. A man who has paid his debt to society should not be deprived of his livelihood.

That said, I can’t fathom that anyone would really want him for a QB. Talented athelete that he is, the proof is in the pudding as far as his abilities. He never could check down or audible, no touch pass ability, he is a scrambler/runner with limited intelligence and that’s about it. Cannon for an arm, but cannot put it on the money. Pulls it down and runs to quickly; can’t stay in the pocket and make the throws.

He would be a great RB or WR I think. My humble opinion expressed, I still remember his glory days and what he did for the Falcons franchise, filling seats and selling out games. I thoroughly enjoyed watching him play.

He is really a dummy tho, to get himself into the situation he did and waste the opportunities so few people are ever given a shot at. We all make mistakes, but man that sure was a whopper!

I wish him the best of luck and hope he learned something from all of this. So many of his supporters and detractors have only learned to bash each other; for what? To use him to martyr your cause, whatever that may be. Ignorance is bliss.

By JM

February 19, 2009 1:00 PM | Link to this

It’s amazing that ATL fans are still polarized by MV7 and I think both sides are right with their passion. But here are a few thoughts: 1) I was a MV7 fan and was very disappointed when the dog fitting scandal occurred. I was not disappointed because he got caught & convicted because it was a totally despicable thing to do and he deserved to pay the price for his actions. Also, he disgraced the team, and ruined himself financially which definitely was not worth trading in for dog fighting. However, I was disappointed because I do think he was one of the most exciting players in the NFL to watch and now I get deprived of the opportunity to see his excitement in games because of his dumb mistakes. I just appreciated watching talented & exciting players in any sport. 2) I do think he has paid the price for his mistake (or will have by late summer) and should be given the opportunity to play in the NFL again. He is not the first, nor will he be the last player to commit some kind of off field crime and be punished by a professional league. After all, remember Jamal Lewis sold drugs which affects kids/adult (people!) only to get reinstated, OR Ray Lewis involvement in a shooting that took a human life and what happened? …a slap on the wrist and reinstatement. And Pacman Jones got arrested numerous times and still got an opportunity to play before he screwed up this last time (idiot). 3)I understand that PETA has a poster boy in MV7 but I do think they are hypocritical at times. I agree that animals should not be mistreated, abused, hunted/killed for sport but that’s the way society is and PETA has not changed that yet (nor will they). After all people will continue to eat animals/fish/etc and I wonder how many PETA members eat meat/fish (are they all truly vegetarians)? But what I find hypocritical is where is PETA when animals kill people (like the pit bulls that have killed children and adults in the past), sharks that kill or when animals attack people like that chimpanzee did the other day? You NEVER hear from them in those instances. They don’t want to be interviewed or seen on TV then when the tables are reversed and people are the victims of animals. 4) I agree that if the Falcons can’t trade Vick then worst case, work him out & play him in preseason to possibly prove his worth to other teams (regardless of the protest that will surely happen) because his days in ATL are over. I know that some would call this wishful thinking but what if Matt Ryan got injured in preseason (or Shockley or Redman) and had to miss the entire 2009 season (like Shockley did in 2007)? The Falcons would have to get another QB in that scenario if they had traded Vick, or would they keep him if he was still on the roster? Later.

By T.C

February 19, 2009 1:06 PM | Link to this

Remember opinions are just what they are.so by saying that,yall opinions are just assumptions.We really dont know what the falcons will get for him.What he did off the field and paid for is totally different from the game of football.Seems to me,people are putting dog fighting and football in the same category.He will get picked up by a team for a high price!now,thats my opinion.

By Stephen

February 19, 2009 1:11 PM | Link to this

Folks seem to want to forget that Michael Vick still has to go before the NFL Commissioner. This is the same Commissioner that Vick has lied to on more than one occasion. Not to mention, what NFL Team is going to want to take on his contract? You can bet it won’t be Seattle…ha! ha!

I am hoping that he does get reinstated so that the Falcons can garnish his income, along with the other creditors, in an effort to recover some of the money he owes.

By Reality Time

February 19, 2009 1:12 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick was not known for his work ethic when he was quarterbacking for Atlanta during the time he was supposedly “going to change the way quarterback is played in the NFL.” He barely put in time during mandatory training sessions, much less taking any personal incentive, vis-a-vis the film room, to make himself a better quarterback. Like so many of the posters who support him, he relied upon his natural athleticism to get him by, and I think all but the most deluded will admit that Michael Vick is not someone who can digest a large playbook. The game has changed in two years, Michael Vick is two years older and two years removed from the game, during which time he has spent approximately 20 hours of each day, eating, sleeping or punching license plates. Does anyone really think that an NFL team is going to pony up much of anything for an erratic quarterback, two years removed from the game, who probably won’t even be out of prison in time to get physically in shape, much less digest a playbook, not to mention that when Vick played in Atlanta the scheme was designed for him, this time, no matter where he goes, he will have to adapt to the scheme already in place.

By Fester Bestertester

February 19, 2009 1:19 PM | Link to this

It doesn’t look like he’s going to see the field this year, so all this is just idle talk. But would someone explain to me how going to prison does not VOID his contract??? What happened to the millions he supposedly owed the Falcons?

By meesta

February 19, 2009 1:20 PM | Link to this

Americans love a spectacle. Americans love fallen people who try to rise again, no matter what the circumstances. Americans love to self-righteously criticize.Vick WILL find a team that wants him and the coliseum will be packed wherever he plays, seats filled by hecklers and fans. Money WILL be made. What a carnival!

By Tim Parker

February 19, 2009 5:04 PM | Link to this

Vick will never play in the league again. Nobody wants him. If all the teams that are in desperate need of a QB aren’t interested…that speaks volumes.

BTW…easy’s immaturity speaks volumes…