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By jarvis

January 15, 2009 10:19 AM | Link to this

Joe Flacco wasn’t asked to do a lot other than not to blow the game for the Ravens Defense. He’s better than Trent Dilfer, but he didn’t have to be.

Ryan had a lot more on his shoulders for sure.

By mecca1312

January 15, 2009 10:30 AM | Link to this

Team Ryan Ryan is the best rookie qb by far, no question about it…he had to do more for his team than flacco has had to do…the falcons had a good defense this year but the raven defense is a better defense so flacco didnt have to do a whole lot but lean on the defense. ryan had to take the team on his shoulders and carry them most of the season.

By Scott

January 15, 2009 10:31 AM | Link to this

Look at what Matt Ryan has done for the city of Atlanta and the Falcons. He came into a situation that had disaster written all over it! He had a running back, though a lot of hype, that was unproven; and he was in the shadow of Michael Vick. The defense was questionable after their performance last year. Flacco came into a situation with an average football team with a stellar defense. The Ravens organization looked like the Patriots in this decade compared to what the Falcons looked like. To me, this is a no-brainer. While Flacco is good, what Ryan has done is remarkable for a rookie QB! Team Ryan all the way!

By Rico

January 15, 2009 10:36 AM | Link to this

Like I said: Matt Ryan is not the next Peyton Manning. HE IS THE NEXT MATT RYAN WHO IS GOING TO BE BETTER THAN MANNING.

Flacco does not even come close to Ryan.

Flacco Defense is making him look good. Switch Flacco with Ryan on Baltimore Team and the Ravens would be undefeated!

By geekboy

January 15, 2009 10:45 AM | Link to this

Only a fool, or a member of the Smith family, would take Flacco over Ryan.

By Carlun

January 15, 2009 10:49 AM | Link to this

Not even a contest…Flacco is only completing 44% of his passes in the playoffs. Only thing he’s done right is not throw the int’s. The Ravens defense is clearly the core of this team. When the Falcons are able to provide Matt the same type of def that constantly keeps the ball in his hands…we’re not even having this conversation.

By Carlun

January 15, 2009 10:51 AM | Link to this

It’s all about the defense. Put Matt on the Ravens and there easily 14-2….number 1 seed!

By DK

January 15, 2009 10:57 AM | Link to this

This is a no-brainer. Ryan is hands down the better QB. Flacco is going to be a good QB and I believe that he’ll have continued success in the NFL, but he was given a pretty good team and simply ask not to blow the game. He didn’t and showed that he has what it takes to play in the NFL.

As for Ryan, he was given a squad that openly admitted that they were under talented for an NFL squad. Yet he was a one of the main reasons (along with the Burner) for making this under talented squad a playoff contender. I suspect that this question will not even be debatable next year. His decision-making skill and poise is unmatched for a rookie QB. Once Ryan has a year of experience under his belt and the Falcons has fixed the problems on defense, he’ll be league and Super bowl XLIV MVP, and his Canton will be making plans for his display in the museum.

P.S. Ryan, don’t listen to this type of talk. None of this will happen if you don’t continue to work you’re a$$ off for it.

By Reality Time

January 15, 2009 10:58 AM | Link to this

Joe Flacco has done a good job with the Ravens, but he came into a team that was cohesive, has one of the best defenses in the NFL and established chemistry in the locker room and if he had gone 3 and 13, as some rookies have, it would have been “oh, so what, look at Manning and Elway, they had bad rookie seasons.”

Matt Ryan came into a situation where his selection on signing day was greeted without any warmth. He came into a team that was in total disarray, with the exception of a few veterans and even they had to convinced about the new regime because they had been so burned with the last one. Matt Ryan not only had to learn the entire playbook in a very short time, both offensive and defensive lines were suspect, and don’t forget, he had to take the starting job away from two veteran quarterback. He had to come in, as a rookie, and convince the remainder of the team that he deserved to be called their leader and that he would not let them down. In addition to all those that, he had to win over a certain segment of the population in Atlanta. One misstep, anywhere, and he would have been crucified, as can be seen from previous blogs. If he had gone 3-13, it would have been “he’s a bust”. The young man must have remarkable strength to do what he has done this year and I applaud him, for both his physical abilities and his emotional and mental stability. I think we have only good things to look forward to with “Matty Ice.” By the way, what’s so bad about the nickname “Matty Ice”.

By Jeff

January 15, 2009 11:04 AM | Link to this

What a joke of a “debate.”

By NCFalconFan

January 15, 2009 11:22 AM | Link to this

Team Ryan without question.

I don’t recall when the game was on Flacco shoulders to win. When Rex Ryan is gone after this year and their defense not getting any younger, Flacco would be lost.

I am thrilled RYAN is OUR QB!!!!

By Ravens#1

January 15, 2009 11:43 AM | Link to this

Team Flacco, Ryan had some clutch moments this year. I love the pass he made with six seconds left in the game to get a last second field goal. I think both QBs will be amazing in this league, they’re the next tom brady and peyton manning. For the Reg season Ryan deserved rookie player of the year. Post season there’s no debate Ryan looked like a rookie(first pass through into triple coverage when there was an easy dump off pass right underneath), joe has played like a vet. When ppl say the defense has made joe what he is, why hasn’t any qb been good in baltimore yet then?

Flacco bigger arm, just as accurate, a little more athletic and poised. Who’s still playing and who’s watching from his couch?

By rabdawgs

January 15, 2009 12:01 PM | Link to this

Where would Matt Ryan be with that D-Fense. Maybe a superbowl MVP? On the other hand, insert Flacco into the Falcons and I propose we have a three year project!!!!!

By FlaccoforMVPofSB

January 15, 2009 12:17 PM | Link to this

What if Ryan had B-more’s D? Maybe he throws two picks and Ravens are out first round. What ifs don’t matter. Flacco doesn’t have two dynamic backs like turner and norwood. Oh don’t forget we don’t have a game changing wide receiver like Roddy white. Wait till next year when we get our #1 WR hopefully and then you’ll see some eye popping stats from Flacco. Right now all he’s got is eye popping stats in the one category that really matters, WINS!

By eljewell

January 15, 2009 12:34 PM | Link to this

This is dumb. Really really dumb. They are both good qb’s that turned their respective teams around.

By BullDawg Rick

January 15, 2009 1:04 PM | Link to this

Matty Ice: Falcons 2007 - 4-11 2008 - 11-5

TDS 16 INT 11 YDS 3,440 RTG 87.7

Joe Blow: Ravens 2007 5-11 2008 11-5

TDS 14 INT 12 YDS 2,971 RTG 80.3

Going strictly by the FACTS - it’s The Dirty Bird in a landslide…

By KneeJerk

January 15, 2009 1:25 PM | Link to this

If Flacco was a baseball player, he’d be a middle reliever. Come in and don’t blow the game and let someone else finish it off (Ravens defense).

By Falcaholic

January 15, 2009 1:35 PM | Link to this

What a disappointment. It’s been almost two weeks without any real reporting about the Falcons. How about some initial guesses about free agency and maybe a mock draft? How about some interviews with the players? Anything but this fluff.

By Charlie

January 15, 2009 1:35 PM | Link to this

I could play QB for the Ravens and they would be almost as good. Flacco just relies on his unbelievable defense. He never has had to make throws like the one Ryan made at the end of the Chicago game.

By Josh

January 15, 2009 1:45 PM | Link to this

If the Ravens had Ryan the would have won thier division and more than likely the Super Bowl. We just need to upgrade our defence and will be ready to go!!!! Go Falcons

By humble

January 15, 2009 1:47 PM | Link to this

MR2, although not by much. He was a much more consistent QB through the season. He also was given more of the offense and proved to handle it.

Flacco has done much better as the season has gone on. Of course he has a much better cast around him, especially their D. Hopefully both will be mainstays with their team for years to come and this draft class will be compared with that of ‘83.

Either way both teams made a good selection for themselves and both QB’s appear to have great futures ahead of them.

By Derek D

January 15, 2009 1:49 PM | Link to this

im not gonna lie. before the draft i hoped we didnt pick ryan because i didnt think he was a franchise qb. i hoped they would get somebody like Dorsey and take Flacco in the second round. he would have still been there and ryan would have been taken in the first round. but i couldnt have been more wrong!! Ryan has been unbelievable. he has turned this team around and has the entire city of atlanta buzzing. no disrespect to Flacco but a mediocre qb could have success in baltimore with the great defense and good running game. Ryan will continue to improve and continue to make me realize why i dont manage an nfl franchise. go falcons!

By Flacco is GARBAGE !!!!!!!!!!!!

January 15, 2009 1:50 PM | Link to this

Flacco is garbage!!!!!!!! He hasnt won any games for his team this year!!!! His defense has won every game this year!!!!! You are an idiot if you think flacco the sorry a$$ wacco can even stand next to Matt Ryan!!!!!! And by the way regarding the stupid comment made by (wackoformvpSB at 12:17) the ravens ran the ball more than any team in the NFL!! Look it up chump!!! And what is derrick mason or what is Todd heap???? Are they not playmakers!!!?? Anyways dude your a chump just like flacco sorry a$$!!!! Everybody will tell you DEFENSE wins championships!!!!!! And the dsvrns have the best defense in the NFL Period!!! Can anybody tell me one game flacco won???! Where his defense lost the game and wacko had to win the game????!!!!!! Like Matt Ryan did several times!!!!!!!!

G O F A L C O N S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And

G O M A T T R Y A N!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Supes

January 15, 2009 1:51 PM | Link to this

Who the FRAK cares?

They are 2 different QB asked to run 2 different styles of offense.

Joe Flacco is a “game manager” and the play calling is designed to protect him from throwing INT. He has shown excellent judgement throwing the deep ball to Derrick Mason.

However his stats are what they are b/c they won’t open up the offense b/c they can’t! They don’t have the personnel.

Then you add the Raven’s defense, you get points scored from their defense, and the extra possessions and short fields they create via turnovers, it simplifies Joe Flacco’s task to win games.

Matt Ryan is asked to do more, he has better weapons on offense around him (with the exception of the TE position), but that Ravens O-Line is just as good or better than the Falcons (another key component that must not be over looked by fans).

I dare say if the Falcons defense was as good as the Ravens, the Falcons would still be playing in the NFL playoffs.

They are both going to be all pro QB’s book it! They are both going to be winners.

It’s the disillusional racist MV supporter fans that want to rile up people by bringing up the Flacco over Ryan debate on the Falcons blog…so just b/c they did it enough times there is a blog dedicated to that?

Get a grip AJC!

By Vick Supporter

January 15, 2009 1:54 PM | Link to this

Both Qbs are very good. I like Ryan’s “moxie”….Flacco has the same, but alot more than Ryan. People keep talking about Bmore’s defense, but the defense doesn’t mean anything if Flacco turns the ball over, which he doesn’t. Both QB’s have the “it” factor, as does Vick, both Mannings, Brady, Warner, Favre, McNabb……I believe thats it. I give the edge to Flacco. i don’t care if the defense “carried” Flacco, which isn’t entirely true. Flacco completes the big passes that are needed, not throwing into triple coverage and under throwing deep passes like Ryan. You can’t go wrong with either one, but I would take Flacco.

By F*CK Flacco

January 15, 2009 2:00 PM | Link to this

Team Ryan, hands-down. Flacco wasn’t even in the discussion for Rookie of the Year, Matt was the clear winner. Sure Flacco has a big arm, but does he actually use it? No sir, he only uses it on the deep-ball, which he throws quite often, completing 1-3 times a game. Flacco isn’t poised, he only looks poised because he stares down receivers and keeps his shoulders level, and his o-line has done such a good job of protecting him, he can just “chill” in the pocket, making it look like he’s poised. The identity of the Ravens is Ray Lewis, Ed Reed. The identity of the Atlanta Falcons is MATT RYAN, Michael Turner, Roddy White, John Abraham. Flacco has NEVER EVER taken the team on his shoulders and carried them, usually it’s that defense carrying Flacco, and they still are carrying him, all the way into the AFC championship. I can’t even use both hands to count the number of times Matty Ice has carried the Falcons, hold on, not only carried them, but carried them to VICTORY, cough* bears at home *cough. Please, Joe Flacco is a joke, he’s not a leader like Matt, and he can’t make every throw, even though he’s got an arm to do it, he throws a real heater and tight spiral so everyone thinks “HOLY COW, WOW, THAT’S A GREAT QB” no folks, that’s a great arm, and it’ll take a lot more to be a great QB, don’t get me wrong, Flacco will eventually be one of the top quarterbacks in this league BUT Ryan will be better…

By bigeasy830

January 15, 2009 2:05 PM | Link to this

Joe Flacco is the better of the two QBs, he ran a real NFL offense and not that college offense that was installed for Ryan. Ryan sucked the last 3 games of the regular season and the play-off game because Monty Kiffin exposed him. Ryan has a weak arm and cannot make plays unless the receiver is wide open. Joe Flacco can gun the ball into tight spots. You people keep talking about the Ravens defense, well if Flacco turned the ball over like Ryan did the last 4 games then The Ravens would be home just like the Falcons. Face it your QB has been exposed. He will suck next year as well. Ryan will be the next Danny Weurfell. The Falcons will win no more than 5 games. The weak schedule of 2008 is behind you. Flacco played against a much tougher schedule, he will be a more tested and prepared QB because of it. Ryan on the other hand will realize that he won’t be playing the Lions next season. You should have drafted Dorsey and then Flacco in the second round. Baltimore would have drafted Ryan and Flacco would have been there in the second round. I am not jumping on the Flacco bandwagon, check the archives. I have stated this all year including the preseason and before the draft. And, if Mularkey gets another head coaching job, Ryan is doomed for sure.

2008 season is in the reaview for the Falcons. So why keep harping on a lost season the Falcons are sitting at home just like the Lions. You fans will be happy with making the play-offs every 3 or 4 seasons. That is why the Falcons will never win a Super Bowl.

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!

By Dee

January 15, 2009 2:17 PM | Link to this

Flacco = Trent Dilfer. Only younger. Ryan is a way better talent who carried his team. Flacco not so much. All they’re asking him to do is to not do too much. If Ryan were on the Ravens and had that defense, they’d be 14-2 easy.

By Vick Supporter

January 15, 2009 2:17 PM | Link to this

And for the people that say Ryan carried the Falcons, that’s totally untrue. Mike Turner carried the Falcons and Ryan managed the game most times. True fact.

By Gary

January 15, 2009 2:18 PM | Link to this

When ppl say the defense has made joe what he is, why hasn’t any qb been good in baltimore yet then? Ravens#1

First off the Ravens won SuperBowl XXXV with Trent Dilfer as their QB. Then the next year they made the playoffs with Elvis Grbac and an old Randall Cunningham as their QBs. Then they made the playoffs again in 2003 with Kyle Boller as their QB and the top seed in the AFC in 2006 with a past his prime Steve McNair as the QB. Each year the defense ranked in the top 10 in the NFL in total defense. The defense has made Flacco, just like the other QBs listed, a good QB. Put them on another team with a solid, less than steller defense and you are looking at 5-11 seasons for a few years. Just manage the game and don’t turn the ball over. He is asked not to lose it, while Matt Ryan is asked to win it. That is the difference. Team Ryan wins this debate.

By JoeFlacco

January 15, 2009 2:20 PM | Link to this

Hahahahahaha hating Falcon fans, and still I play on. I hope you enjoy watching me from the couch on Sunday. I’m the real rookie of the year! Hahahahahahahaha loser Falcons and Matty Ice. And still I play on!

By bigeasy830

January 15, 2009 2:25 PM | Link to this

Michael Turner won those games. When they tried to unleashe Matt Ryan he sucked. Turner bailed them out, but even he coould not save the Falcons in the play-offs, that is just how bad Ryan messed it up.

By Najeh Davenpoop

January 15, 2009 2:26 PM | Link to this

No opinion from Vick Supporter 2 yet? Dude is slippin’…

Ryan has better timing with his receivers, plays with better fundamentals, and sees the whole field better than Flacco, but Flacco is bigger, stronger, throws a better deep ball, is more mobile, and has played better against good defenses this year than Ryan. It depends on what you want in a quarterback — do you want a pure passer or do you want a playmaker?. If I had to win a playoff game right now, from what I’ve seen, I’d probably rather have the playmaker Flacco, but I can see why people would rather have the pure passer Ryan.

By Gary

January 15, 2009 2:29 PM | Link to this

A real NFL offense bigeasy? How is the Ravens offense any different than the Falcons? How are the Falcons a college style offense? Looks to me like the use the run heavily which the last time I checked is the definition of an NFL style offense. Its no secret that Ryan tired by the end of the season. That’s called adjusting to the longer schedule and every QB has gone through it. Kiffin did nothing different in week 15 than he did in week 2. The difference in the two games of course were the wins and how the Atlanta defense played. Everyone also forgets how Matt played in the Minnesota game. He played well against a good defense and took advantage of the TOs that his defense got him. And no he is not the next Danny Weurffel. Ryan has already thrown more yards and TDs than Danny did his entire short lived career. And how is playing the Bengals and Browns twice tougher than playing the Lions once? Falcons will be fine in 2009. Ryan will be a year older and the team will continue to improve.

By Gary

January 15, 2009 2:36 PM | Link to this

And…..The Falcons made the game close against Arizona (who by the way is still playing) because of Matt Ryan, not Turner. If the defense makes that stop on 3-16 who knows what would have happened. Joe Flacco is still playing because his defense caused Miami to turn the ball over in their own territory several times and exposed Kerry Collins like they did in Super Bowl XXXV. If Baltimore’s run to the AFC title game tells us anything it is that Ed Reed is a beast. He is the MVP of the Ravens playoff run, not Joe Flacco.

By Dogbyte

January 15, 2009 2:40 PM | Link to this

Both are excellent young QBs. But, after TB does more with Matt’s supporting cast during this offseason we will see what happens next year. I think Ryan will surge forward and win a MVP to go with his ROY. In the meantime, I wish Flacco well.

I wish to thank the AJC for giving VS, VS2 and bigeasy830 an alternate place to spread their manure while we clean up the Falcon blog.

By Derrick

January 15, 2009 2:41 PM | Link to this

Ryan…ROY….’Nuff Said.

By bigeasy830

January 15, 2009 2:43 PM | Link to this

You forgot about the fumble that Ryan had against The Vikings that was luckily recovered in the end zone by a Falcon player. Why the excuse saying he got tired. Joe Flacco have not tired, what is your QB soft. Maybe you haven’t read the stories that Mularkey installed BC’s offense for Ryan that is why he looked so comfortable. Ryan is a chump, that has been exposed. Stop making excuses for him.

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!

By bigeasy830

January 15, 2009 2:49 PM | Link to this

BY GARY, what about the INTs against the Cards. OK, cat your tongue now huh. Plus, the Cards beat to sorry NFC SOUTH teams. All teams in the NFC SOUTH played basically the same soft schedule. So what is your point. The teams in the NFC soft had inflated records because of their schedules. That is why all of them are sitting at home.

By Ravens#1

January 15, 2009 2:53 PM | Link to this

Matt Ryan is asked to win the game at the end because he put the team in a bad spot in the begining, remember his first playoff game. Joe doesn’t do that to his team because he knows wins are the only important stat. He has carried the ravens to victory many times this season. He drives the field all the time but you don’t see the TD #’s becasue we run more in the red zone more than any team in the nfl. We were down 27-13 to the browns and he droves us down field to complete the comeback. He drove the field with 4 minutes left on MNF to tie the game up in pittsburg and send it to over time. Ryan is a choker in the one big game he had this year. Joe doesnt choke he’s always calm cool and collected. suck on it

By Dogbyte

January 15, 2009 2:53 PM | Link to this

I, of course, meant “TD” for Thomas Dimitroff. “TB” stands for what VS, VS2 and bigeasy830 dispense which is tripe and bullsheet.

By Don

January 15, 2009 2:56 PM | Link to this

Both are good, but Ryan is better. If he had the Ravens OL his stats would have been mind boggling and Turner’s also.

By Gary

January 15, 2009 3:00 PM | Link to this

One more thing here……

I have heard several people talk about the Ravens schedule and Flacco playing better against tougher defenses. While I give the tougher schedule argument, I don’t agree with the defense analogy.

Flacco played the Steelers twice, Eagles, Giants, Colts, and Titans twice. I consider these teams to be the best defenses he played all year. His team’s combined record against them was 2-5 and only twice did his team score 20+ points in the game.

Ryan played the Bucs twice, Panthers twice, Bears, Eagles, Chargers, and Vikings. I consider these teams to be the best defenses he played all year. His team’s combined record against these teams were 5-3 and 4 times his team scored over 20+ points winning them all. He had the game changing drive against the Panthers and the game winning drive with 11 seconds left to beat the Bears. He is a leader as to which Flacco is a game manager.

While you also can say the Falcons schedule was softer, you cannot deny that the Ravens had some cupcakes on their schedule too. The Falcons played the Lions, Packers, Chiefs, Raiders, and Rams. The Ravens got to play the Bengals (twice), Browns (twice), Raiders, and Jaguars. The Ravens played 6 playoff teams and the Falcons played 5 playoff teams (these are teams, not how many times they played them). The Ravens played a slightly tougher schedule and came out with the same record as the Falcons.

One last thing to remember is Matt Ryan had better overall numbers than Flacco as well. His QB rating is much better than some recent rookie QBs.

By bigeasy830

January 15, 2009 3:05 PM | Link to this

You Falcon fans are full of excuses, what will your excuse be next year when the Falcons are 5-11 and Matt Ryan looks like the chump he is and the chump he will always be

By DAY OF RECKANING

January 15, 2009 3:07 PM | Link to this

MIKE VICK BETTER THAN BOTH OF THESE TWO SISSIY BOYZ PUT TOGETHER! WHEN VICK COME BACK TO WIN BACK NO TAKE BACK! HIS STARTING QB JOB THEN WE WILL SEE WHO WIN THE SUPPER BOWL IN 09! WITH ALL THE MONNY BLANK LOST CAUSE OF CRYIN RYIN AT QB HE BE DOWN ON HIS KNEEZ BEGGING VICK TO COME BACK AND MAKE HIM RICH AGAIN! ATL BELONG TO MV7!

By Gary

January 15, 2009 3:09 PM | Link to this

The game against the Cardinals Matt did throw some INTs that cost his team. But the momentum swung in that game not because of a Ryan turnover, but a Turner turnover. When the Falcons could not run on the Cardinals, they put the ball into Ryan’s hands and he made plays. The no huddle second quarter drives resulted in the Falcons leading at half time. The fourth quarter drive resulted in the game closing to six points and Kurt Warner having to get his team three crucial first downs to ice it. You can look back and say Ryan did not have a great game, but he did keep the Falcons in it. The Vikings game was a dumb move by him, but yes QBs tire. Notice the scoring in the playoffs so far has been mostly because the defense has given Flacco great field position because of turnovers?

By Gary

January 15, 2009 3:16 PM | Link to this

suck on it Ravens#1

Ah the sounds of immaturity. Look I am not saying Flacco is a bad QB. I am saying that judging by the numbers and how the players fared, Ryan was the better QB this year. Both are going to be great QBs and win Super Bowls one day. Bank on that. But Ryan had the better year. His stats were better and no he did not choke in his only big game. As previously stated, the Falcons were still in the game against Zona because of Matt Ryan. Ryan also had good games against the Packers(when everyone thought they were good), Bears, Vikings, and the Sunday afternoon showdown with the Panthers in the dome. It was also the first time the Falcons had a QB come close to 3500 yards in over a decade. Another stat that is important is 11-5 in his rookie year.

By Ravens#1

January 15, 2009 3:17 PM | Link to this

Same record Gary? the Ravens are 13-5. The Falcons are 11-6. Talking about the schedule, The Ravens lost only to teams who made the playoffs. The only other team who can say that is the Steelers. The Bucs suck at D don’t count them as a good D, the chargers, and bears are weak too. Your rookie played a weak schedule and overall weak defenses. If they voted for ROY at the end of year like they should have Flacco would have won.

By Gary

January 15, 2009 3:20 PM | Link to this

Hey bigeasy, why don’t you and the other Falcon haters wait until next year to see how good or bad the Falcons will be? This year, if any, should show everyone that good on paper does not matter. Its how you play the games on Sunday or Monday that matter. Dallas, New Orleans, Green Bay, New England, and Jacksonville were all supposed to have good to great seasons and make the playoffs. Every one of them were at home watching the Falcons, Ravens, and Dolphins play in the Wild Card round. The Falcons on paper should be better, but lets see how they do first.

By Supes

January 15, 2009 3:27 PM | Link to this

Ravens#1

I heard Joe Flacco is going to SUCK on Woodley and Harrison’s you know what this weekend, so they take it easy on him and don’t take off his head when the Steelers lay the wood on the one dimentional Ravens.

Make this comparison in 3 years. You will have a lot more to go on before you mouth off.

By Ravens#1

January 15, 2009 3:45 PM | Link to this

Supes, Matt Ryan is going to be playing with himself this weekend because he can’t play with anyone else. I didn’t start this comparison the ajc did, and I didn’t feel Flacco was getting his respect so I backed him up. how you like them apples.

Gary, who’s atlanta playing on sunday again?

Day of Reckaning, you’re saying vick is better than flacco and ryan… Vick doesn’t deserve to even be in the same room as these guys at the qb position. Vick made roddy white look like a bust. First year in the nfl ryan shows what white truly is, a top 5 receiver in the nfl. I love vick as a athlete but not at qb, the guy is going to comeback and be a wr, bank on it. No team will even let him be the face of their organization again, it’d be a PR nightmare. he blew it.

By Joe Tool

January 15, 2009 3:45 PM | Link to this

The Ravens lose to the Steelers this weekend anyway. Give us the Ravens defense and the turnovers they created and we win the SB. Matt Ryan not only turned around a football team but He also got the entire state of Georgia excited about Falcons football again. Hands down Matt Ryan is the best.

By Slim Shady

January 15, 2009 4:03 PM | Link to this

flip flopping @$$ bigeasy830

Here are some of your own words from the Bird Babe: Defense lets down Falcons

Jan 8, 2009 10:56 AM By bigeasy830: I have nothing against Ryan. He was widely considered the best QB in the draft. I really had no problem with them drafting him if not Dorsey or Ellis. I think the only bad move was trading 2 second round picks for Baker.

Which one is it bigeasy830? Now that VS is watching you should choose your words carefully. At least he stays on one side. He doesn’t belly flop around like your bigeasy830 @$$. Flacco is good I admit, but don’t get mad at Ryan for making you look stupid. Even you must find it hard to believe the crap that you say. 2-14 in ‘08 with Ryan as QB, isn’t that what you said before the season? Now it’s no more than 5 wins next year? How do think up this stuff?

By Slim Shady

January 15, 2009 4:05 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah, TEAM RYAN!

By michaelgee

January 15, 2009 4:23 PM | Link to this

and nobody mentioned that Flacco did not start the season but was actually 3rd on the QB list after camp.

Nobody mentioned the week that Flacco had a 25% QB Rating.

Flacco is good but Ryan is fundamentally sound. if not for established Raven defense and the long bomb Flacco would already be out of the playoffs.

By RYAN SUPPORTER 2

January 15, 2009 4:26 PM | Link to this

ITS CALLED NFL.COM

USE IT TO CHECK THE STATS!!

FLACCO PLAYED BETTER AGAINST GOOD DEFENSES?!!!!

WTF?! LOOK IT UP!! FLACCO SUCKED AND SUCKS WHEN PLAYING AGAINST REAL TEAMS, TOO BAD HE CAN’T PLAY THE BENGALS ALL THE TIME.

THE STEELERS ARE GONNA TEAR HIM A NEW ONE, OR SHOULD I SAY A THIRD ONE AFTER THE PREVIOUS BEAT DOWNS.

MATTY IS ONLY GOING TO GET BETTER AND IS MUCH MORE THAN A GAME-MANAGER, I GAURANTEE YOU THAT NO ONE IN PHILLY (THE B.S. PUNT FUMBLE GAME) OR IN ARIZONA WANTED TO SEE HIM GET THE BALL BACK WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE.

THE ARIZONA GAME IS ACTUALLY A GOOD EXAMPLE! HE CAME OUT SHAKY, THREW A COUPLE OF PICKS (ONE WAS TIPPED) BUT THEN GOT IN A RHYTHM AND DROVE THEM DOWN THE FIELD FOR SCORES.

DESPITE ATL’S TURNOVERS, MATTY DROVE THE BIRDS DOWN THE FIELD IN THE 4TH AND HAD THEM WITHIN A TD OF WINNING THE GAME!!

AND “THAT” WAS A BAD GAME FOR HIM!!

BOTTOM-LINE:

THE KID IS A WINNER. PERIOD.

FLACCO DIDN’T EVEN THROW FOR 3000 YARDS!!!!

AGAIN, PUT RYAN ON THE RAVENS AND YOU HAVE 12-4 AT WORST. PUT FLACCO ON THE FALCONS AND YOU HAVE 7-9 AT BEST.

BUT AT LEAST FLACCO DOESN’T BRUTALIZE DOGS, PULL STUPID $HIT, OR GET LOCKED UP IN PRISON.

By Russ

January 15, 2009 4:34 PM | Link to this

Both have done great jobs as rookie QB’s, but I would take Ryan. Nothing against Flacco, he has also exceeded all expectations you can have for a rookie QB, but I think when you compare preseason expectations it is truly remarkable what Ryan did with the Falcons this season. Obviously, it is a team sport and Ryan didn’t do it on his own, but he provided leadership and took a team that was supposed to win 1 or 2 games to the playoffs. Baltimore was also coming off a tough season, but I think most people figured their defense would be back to their dominating ways this season, which obviously made it easier on Flacco. I look for them both to have long and successful careers.

I don’t know why Vick has come into this discussion (or any discussions since he probably won’t be playing again until 2010, if at all), but I would take either or the rookie QB’s over him. If I needed someone to help me pick out a dog that could kick other dog’s a*******e$ I would take Vick over Ryan or Flacco in a second. Those losers don’t know anything about training dogs to fight and killing them if they don’t perform well.

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 15, 2009 4:44 PM | Link to this

IS THIS A JOKE?

——-WHO MADE IT TO CHAMPIONSHIP GAME——

YOU PEOPLE CAN’T EVEN TELL THE TRUTH…..

RAVENS IN 2007….3-13 NOT 5-11…

————BUT CHECK THIS OUT—————-

——-LEAF DOWN THE STRETCH——-

PICKS………..6

FUMBLES……4

SAFETY…..1

THE ONLY REASON LEAF IS NOT BLAMED FOR THIS LOSS IS NOT BECAUSE HE IS A ROOKIE…..IT’S BECAUSE HIS NAME IS NOT MIKE AND HE WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO EVEN HOLD MV7 JOCKSTRAP……BUT I’M SURE HE CAN HOLD A CLIP BOARD :)

——EARTH TO ART BLANK———

YOU CAN’T REPLACE “GOD” WITH A “FAKE” POPE

——-JANUARY 20, 2009———

END OF FAILED EXPERIMENT :)

“THANKS FOR PLAYING KIDS”

ART I KNOW YOU ARE NOT HAPPY…..I SAW YOU ON THAT SIDELINE BEFORE THE GAME WAS OVER AND YOU WERE USED TO CELEBRATING A PLAYOFF WIN…..BUT….YOU PROBABLY THOUGHT…..

OH SHOOT HE’S NOT MV7

——-OH DARN IT :)———-

I HATE THOSE RAP LISTENING, FAST MOBILE QUARTERBACKS THAT CAN WIN WITH A SORRY LINE……BUT……

———-CHECK THIS OUT———-

YOU GUYS KEEP BLAMING THE OFFENSIVE LINE…..BUT DIDN’T YOU SAY THIS IS THE SAME LINE THAT MV7 HAD?….INTERESTING…..:)

——-LIKE I SAID ALL SEASON———

72-MILLION DOLLAR BUST

……..IF IT LOOKS LIKE A BUST……

……IF IT SMELLS LIKE A BUST……

——-IT MUST BE A BUST———-

2004 & COUNTING

NO PLAYOFF WINS :)

THINK OF ALL THAT MONEY ART BLANK SPENT TO ERASE THE LEGACY OF THE “GREATEST” FOOTBALL LEGEND……SHALL WE COUNT THE WAYS…..

-BOUGHT THE COMMISSIONER

-BOUGHT A WEAK SCHEDULE

-BOUGHT A PRO BOWL BACK

-BOUGHT A NEW COACH

-BOUGHT A NEW GM

-BOUGHT A NEW COORDINATOR

-USED A COLLEGE OFFENSE

———BUT CHECK THIS OUT———

LEAF STILL SCREWED THAT UP :)

By Vick Supporter

January 15, 2009 4:45 PM | Link to this

@Ravens#1

Roddy looked like a bust because he was a rookie “project” and he admitted himself that he didn’t put in the work to be a great WR until 2007. If you don’t believe me, look it up. He would have been the same reciever w/Vick at QB, maybe not so much w/Knapp and Mora running the team. Hell, Ryan may have not looked as good with those two morons as coaches.

By Russ

January 15, 2009 4:51 PM | Link to this

Vick Supporter 2 - Living proof that Amercica’s education system just isn’t getting the job done.

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 15, 2009 4:56 PM | Link to this

LETS COUNT THE DOLLARS

——-IF YOU PAY———

72-MILLION

——AND THE OTHER GUY YOU PAY———

30-MILLION

———-SHOULDN’T THE 72-MILLION GUY———

BE IN THE PLAYOFFS AND THE…….

———-30 MILLION DOLLAR GUY———-

IN MOMS LIVING ROOM WATCHING THE….72-MILLION DOLLAR GUY????

———-LIKE I HAVE SAID ALL SEASON———-

72-MILLION DOLLAR BUST

By Russ

January 15, 2009 5:02 PM | Link to this

And the 130 million dollar guy should be in jail?????

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 15, 2009 5:10 PM | Link to this

SOME LEAF POETRY

THE SECOND LEAF, I REALLY SUCK;

HAD A GOOD AGENT, SO I STOLE THOSE BUCKS.

WAS A 5 YEAR SENIOR, COULDN’T READ THE PLAYS;

THE ACC BITES, STILL COULDN’T WIN ON NEW YEARS DAY.

NEW FACE OF THE FRANCHISE, THAT IS SO COOL;

BUT CAN’T FILL THE DOME, JUST A FEW OLD FOOLS.

FLACCO IS MY IDEAL, HE IS THE MAN;

HIS RECEIVERS SUCK, BUT I LOOK LIKE I’M IN THE BAND;

THIS IS NO DEBATE, I STOLE THOSE DOLLARS;

ART SO MAD NOW, HE’LL YANK ME BY THE COLLARS.

——-BROUGHT TO YOU BY————

THE 1 AND ONLY “VICK SUPPORTER 2”

“PLEASE NO AUTOGRAPHS TODAY :)**

By Dr. Ruth

January 15, 2009 5:46 PM | Link to this

Vick Supporter 2 could screw up a wet dream IF he was equipped to have one.

By TheAntiMe

January 15, 2009 5:59 PM | Link to this

What is this? You mean the debate is actually going to be Matt Ryan vs. another rookie QB instead of the inevitable debate of Matt Ryan vs. “you know who”? Well, I guess I just blew that one to the moon, didn’t I?

Oh yeah, now with the obligatory sarcasm out of the way I cast my vote for Matt Ryan.

By falcon21

January 15, 2009 6:04 PM | Link to this

Matt Ryan = MVP. Bigeasy be cool,VS will post something you can copy shortly.

By The Anti-Vick

January 15, 2009 6:05 PM | Link to this

RS2, Besides AZ and Philly you know the Saints were relieved Ryan didn’t get the ball back at the end of the second game. As one Saints fan told me, “We finally got rid of Vick - or he got rid of himself - and now we got Ryan as a thorn in our side for the next 10 years.”

Matt Ryan. The Present. The Future. DEAL WITH IT.

By RS2

January 15, 2009 6:20 PM | Link to this

Yep thats true and I also heard Gruden would trade half his team for Ryan!!!

By SMITTY

January 15, 2009 6:27 PM | Link to this

ryan is better. with that being said, you can’t say flacco didn’t have to do as much as ryan when they threw almost the same amount of passes

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 15, 2009 6:27 PM | Link to this

FLACCO’S PRESS SECRETARY

WHAT DEBATE, THIS MUST BE A JOKE;

LEAF HAS A GIRLIE ARM AND IS A SLOW POKE.

I HAVE THE SAME “D”, AS WE HAD LAST YEAR;

YET THEY WENT 3-13, SO HATERS TAKE IT UP THE REAR.

YOU CAN KEEP THE “ROY”, I’M IN THE BIG GAME;

LEAF’S ROASTING MARSHMALLOWS, MAN THAT IS SO LAME.

DON’T HAVE A PRO BOWL RECEIVER, NOT EVEN A BACK;

BUT HERE I AM 13-5, LEADER OF THE PACK.

SO GO AHEAD, TALK ALL THAT SMACK;

YOUR QB IS 1 AND DONE, THAT’S REALLY WHACK.

MY FANS PACK THE SEATS, NOT LOSING REVENUE;

WITHOUT MV7, PACKING THE DOME YOU WILL NEVER DO.

By billcanoe

January 15, 2009 6:30 PM | Link to this

I am firmly in the Team Ryan camp. Although only time will truly tell, I think Ryan has better mental, physical and leadership skills, and I think the future will bear him out. Joe Flacco has a strange wind-up kind of delivery which takes a fraction of a second longer and helps to telegraph him. Defences will figure him out in the future.

By RS2

January 15, 2009 6:35 PM | Link to this

Ok Smitty but look at the stats.

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 15, 2009 6:40 PM | Link to this

DEBATE ON THIS

IN THE PLAYOFFS

VS

OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS

OH GOSH WHICH IS BETTER :)

By TheAntiMe

January 15, 2009 6:49 PM | Link to this

Okay everyone. Today’s “over and under”. I say that this blog won’t make it to 225 comments before it’s shut down. What do you think? (We’re only using Monopoly money for these bets, of course.)

By falconsanduga

January 15, 2009 6:53 PM | Link to this

Damme….. Falcons fans dont get me wrong ok….>///// if ryan is qb for Baltimore Ravens right now ….they are Superbol champ….Frakko no way.//// yes thats rite…our falcons sauryass defense like Keith Broking let us down…thanx to him for many years of service. it is now time to retire….or go to smwhere else….ok?

By falcon21

January 15, 2009 6:56 PM | Link to this

Matt Ryan is a much better QB.He works hard,smart, has a good arm,knows how to put touch on his throws and can throw deep.Where the hel$ he has a weak arm came from I don’t know.

By The Anti-Vick

January 15, 2009 6:59 PM | Link to this

Question: What do Mike Vick and the Arena Football League have in common?

Matt Ryan. The Present. The Future. DEAL WITH IT.

By mars

January 15, 2009 7:01 PM | Link to this

This is tripe. I’ll take our QB. I think they both have a strong future, but the “what if” debate is a little masturbatory. The only reason Vick fanatics like Flacco is because he’s not with the Falcons. Had we chosen Flacco, they would be extolling Matt Ryan’s virtues right about now.

By falcon21

January 15, 2009 7:05 PM | Link to this

One hel# of a bust!!!

By mars

January 15, 2009 7:07 PM | Link to this

This is tripe. I go with our QB. They both have bright futures ahead of them, but the “what if” debate is a little masturbatory. The only reason Vick fanatics like Flacco is that he is not a Falcon. Had Flacco been chosen by the Falcons, Vickheads would be extolling Matt Ryans virtues right about now.

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 15, 2009 7:08 PM | Link to this

DEBATE THIS “AJC” ARTICLE

——-FALCONS————

Some numbers to consider from next season’s schedule:

.588 — 2008 winning percentage for teams on ‘09 schedule

.459 — ‘08 winning percentage for teams on ‘08 schedule

.602 — ‘08 winning percentage for teams on ‘09 road schedule

9 — number of games in ‘08 against teams without a winning record

5 — number of games in ‘08 against teams with losing records

4— number of teams on ‘09 schedule who won 10 or more in ‘08

2 — number of games in ‘09 against teams with losing records in ‘08

By mars

January 15, 2009 7:09 PM | Link to this

By “they”, I mean the Vickheads.

By JOE UNIBROW FLACCO

January 15, 2009 7:13 PM | Link to this

UMMMM……….VICK SUPPORTER 2

YEAH UH, WE DID GO 5-11 LAST YEAR

THINK ABOUT IT

IF THE FALCONS WENT 4-12 BECAUSE VICK WAS THE BIGGEST IDIOT IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS FOR LEAVING HIS TEAM AND ALL HIS FANS HANGIN’ BECAUSE WATCHING TWO DOGS FIGHT GOT HIS DK HARD AND THE RAVENS WENT 3-13, WHY DID THEY PICK AHEAD OF US.

BUT HEY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT

YOU ROCK :)

By The Anti-Vick

January 15, 2009 7:14 PM | Link to this

Answer: Neither will have a season in 2009.

Matt Ryan. The Present. The Future. DEAL WITH IT.

By dacha

January 15, 2009 7:31 PM | Link to this

HEY QUEER, CHECK YOUR STATS!!!! THE RAVENS DID NOT GO 3-13 IN 2007! THEY BEAT THE JETS, CARDINALS, 49ERS, RAMS AND STEELERS. NOW I KNOW YOU CAN’T COUNT, BUT THAT EQUALS FIVE WINS!!!*

LOSER

By Former STH

January 15, 2009 7:38 PM | Link to this

SORRY AJC, THIS CONTRIVED “DEBATE” TO REV UP MATT RYAN’S POPULARITY SIMPLY ISNT WORKING. THE FALCONS 365 STORES ARE CLOSED, THE FALCONS ARE STILL EXTENDING YET AGAIN, THE DEADLINE TO RENEW SEASON TICKETS, RYAN’S JERSEY IS STILL RANKED IN THE 40-50 RANKING OF COMBINED VENDORS OF NFL JERSEY SALES…JUST GIVE IT UP. IF YOU HAVE TO DO ALL THIS TO SPURN INTEREST THEN ITS JUST NOT GONNA WORK. DON’T WORRY, YOU’LL HAVE SOME EASY BLOGGING NEXT WEEK THAT WILL GARNER 500 COMMENTS, OR EVEN BETTER SHUTTING DOWN THE WHOLE SERVER…LOL…JUST BE PATIENT! LOL

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 15, 2009 7:38 PM | Link to this

DEBATE THIS “AJC” ARTICLE

——-FALCONS————

Some numbers to consider from next season’s schedule:

.588 — 2008 winning percentage for teams on ‘09 schedule

.459 — ‘08 winning percentage for teams on ‘08 schedule

.602 — ‘08 winning percentage for teams on ‘09 road schedule

9 — number of games in ‘08 against teams without a winning record

5 — number of games in ‘08 against teams with losing records

4— number of teams on ‘09 schedule who won 10 or more in ‘08

2 — number of games in ‘09 against teams with losing records in ‘08

ENJOY THE OFF SEASON :)

GET THAT CLIPBOARD READY :)

JANUARY 20, 2009

1-DAY (2) HISTORIC HEADLINES

By RS3

January 15, 2009 8:11 PM | Link to this

Matt Ryan=Rocky Barboa. Flacco=Russian Boxers named Ivan Drago. Good fighters.Guess who wins?

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 15, 2009 8:45 PM | Link to this

DEBATE THIS “AJC” ARTICLE

——-FALCONS————

Some numbers to consider from next season’s schedule:

.588 — 2008 winning percentage for teams on ‘09 schedule

.459 — ‘08 winning percentage for teams on ‘08 schedule

.602 — ‘08 winning percentage for teams on ‘09 road schedule

9 — number of games in ‘08 against teams without a winning record

5 — number of games in ‘08 against teams with losing records

4— number of teams on ‘09 schedule who won 10 or more in ‘08

2 — number of games in ‘09 against teams with losing records in ‘08

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 15, 2009 8:54 PM | Link to this

JANUARY 20, 2009

——A T T E N T I O N———-

WE INTERRUPT THE WORLD STATIONS

THE QUARTERBACK GOD IS BACK :)

I LIKE FLACCO, BUT HERE IS A TRIVIA QUESTION

WHAT DO YOU GET WHEN YOU ADD LEAF & FLACCO?

LEAF #2

FLACCO #5

I THINK WE KNOW THE ANSWER :)

EVENSO, FLACCO IS THE HANDS DOWN BETTER THAN LEAF….

CHAMPIONSHIP GAME TRUMPS STATS ANY DAY :)

By neck-ville Falcons& FANS

January 15, 2009 9:01 PM | Link to this

1 Flacco cost less and did more than Ryan. 2 Flacco hold up better under pressure better than Ryan 3 Flacco Arm is stronger Than Ryan. 4 Ryan walk up and down the line like he know what is going on ,all a front. Can’t read coverage good. 5 He is Bust and will get hurt next year! 6 He need to go to the weight room ! 7 His weakness has been EXPOSED! 8 They play a stronger team next year(RYAN PURE BUST)

By falcon21

January 15, 2009 9:27 PM | Link to this

Well neck-ville said it all,he is a smart man-not!!!-Go to sleep dumb a$$.

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 15, 2009 9:30 PM | Link to this

NECKVILLE

EXCELLENT POST!

By The Anti-Vick

January 15, 2009 10:13 PM | Link to this

LAST 34 GAMES

INTERCEPTIONS…..0

FUMBLES…..0

TDS…..0

BANKRUPTCIES…1

GUESS WHO THAT IS?

By falcon21

January 15, 2009 10:19 PM | Link to this

Could that be the freeking hero of so many? THREE! MV.

By falcons51

January 15, 2009 10:25 PM | Link to this

1st season Matt Ryan-11th in passer rating in nfl-87.7 61.1% completion rating Atlanta Falcons 14th ranked offense

1st season Flacco-22nd in passer rating in nfl-80.3 60% completion rating Baltimore Ravens 28th ranked offense

1st season Mike Vick-19th in passer rating in nfl-81.6 54.9% completion rating Atlanta falcons 23rd ranked offense figures dont lie, liars figure

By RS3

January 15, 2009 10:33 PM | Link to this

Hey Vick Supporter, I got this from Falcon Message Board..FYI. read on!! (Just going over some stats at work.

I wanted to compare Ryan’s season (2008) to Vick’s all-time best season (2002)

Vick: 24 TD’s 14 TO’s 3713 total yards Ryan: 17 TD’s 12 TO’s 3544 total yards

Records:

Vick: 9-6-1 Ryan: 11-5

Division: 2nd 2nd

Playoffs:

Vick: 27-7 at Packers 117 yds. 1 TD 64 yds rushing Ryan: 24-30 at Cardinals 199 yds 2 TD 2 INT 6 yds rushing)

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 15, 2009 10:43 PM | Link to this

FLACCO’S PRESS SECRETARY

WHAT DEBATE, THIS MUST BE A JOKE;

LEAF HAS A GIRLIE ARM AND IS A SLOW POKE.

I HAVE THE SAME “D”, AS WE HAD LAST YEAR;

YET THEY WENT 3-13, SO HATERS TAKE IT UP THE REAR.

YOU CAN KEEP THE “ROY”, I’M IN THE BIG GAME;

LEAF’S ROASTING MARSHMALLOWS, MAN THAT IS SO LAME.

DON’T HAVE A PRO BOWL RECEIVER, NOT EVEN A BACK;

BUT HERE I AM 13-5, LEADER OF THE PACK.

SO GO AHEAD, TALK ALL THAT SMACK;

YOUR QB IS 1 AND DONE, THAT’S REALLY WHACK.

MY FANS PACK THE SEATS, NOT LOSING REVENUE;

WITHOUT MV7, PACKING THE DOME YOU WILL NEVER DO.

By falcon21

January 15, 2009 11:02 PM | Link to this

Good work RS3, Vick is no longer here.Ryan is the man.Vick is looking at bars.Wide receiver or running back, who the hei1 WILL TAKE YOU BACK?

By RS3

January 15, 2009 11:10 PM | Link to this

FICK HAS A STRONG ARM , THINK HE IS A SUPER HERO. SHOOTING TROUGH RECEIVERS HAND. ARTHER SNAPED 130 MILL AND HE FUMBLED IT. FICK’S DOING YOU KNOW WHAT,MAN WHAT A SHAME. DIDN’T HAS A PRO BOWL RECEIVER,RYAN MADE HIM SELF ONE OUR QUTERBACK IS GOOD AND SMART,HERE TO STAY WE DON’T NEED MV7,SO PLEASE LEAVE US ALONE.

By falcons51

January 15, 2009 11:21 PM | Link to this

An Article about football, and you spit 12 bars;

the only thing Mv7 can do after prison is wash cars.

Ryan Is the Best, check the hardware and stats;

Flacco is second, riding on the defenses back.

Comparison shouldnt be made after their first year;

A true test is the comparison at the end of their careers.

Instead of checking each others number of wins;

we should check out who has the better looking girlfriend.

By Vick Supporter

January 15, 2009 11:25 PM | Link to this

January 20th, 2009………….

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 15, 2009 11:27 PM | Link to this

SOME LEAF POETRY

THE SECOND LEAF, I REALLY SUCK;

HAD A GOOD AGENT, SO I STOLE THOSE BUCKS.

WAS A 5 YEAR SENIOR, COULDN’T READ THE PLAYS;

THE ACC BITES, STILL COULDN’T WIN ON NEW YEARS DAY.

NEW FACE OF THE FRANCHISE, THAT IS SO COOL;

BUT CAN’T FILL THE DOME, JUST A FEW OLD FOOLS.

FLACCO IS MY IDEAL, HE IS THE MAN;

HIS RECEIVERS SUCK, BUT I LOOK LIKE I’M IN THE BAND;

THIS IS NO DEBATE, I STOLE THOSE DOLLARS;

ART SO MAD NOW, HE’LL YANK ME BY THE COLLARS.

——-BROUGHT TO YOU BY————

THE 1 AND ONLY “VICK SUPPORTER 2”

“PLEASE NO AUTOGRAPHS TODAY :)**

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 15, 2009 11:54 PM | Link to this

ELI MANNING NEW CONTRACT

———120 MILLION DOLLARS———-

THAT’S THE HIGHEST IN NFL HISTOR……

OH WAIT…..

NAH THATS…….

————-MV7———

MY BAD :)

JANUARY 20, 2009

By Brent S.

January 16, 2009 12:58 AM | Link to this

They ONLY difference between Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco is that Flacco has a defense that is solid. If our old tired defense hadn’t choked on the 3rd and 16 in the Arizona game, then we’d be talking about the Falcons vs. Eagles for the NFC Champioship. You give Matt Ryan a seriously upgraded defense next year with some speed; barring any serious or major injuries, we are in the playoffs at 12-4 baby! By the Brooking, if your reading this, I love ya man but ya gots ta go! You ain’t what you used to be in the speed catagory. They only way the Falcons would keep him for one more year is to either demote him to a back up or to take a sizeable pay cut. Otherwise, he retires after this year and then next year, we can honor HIM with his own banner in the hollowed rafters of the Georgia Dome.

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 16, 2009 1:29 AM | Link to this

THE DEFENSE DIDN’T DO THE FOLLOWING

CRUNCH TIME PERFORMANCE

——-LAST 4 GAMES———

INTERCEPTIONS……..6

FUMBLES……..4

SAFETY………1

YEAH BLAME THE DEFENSE :)

By bigeasy830

January 16, 2009 6:38 AM | Link to this

Flip Flop on this, Ryan showed his true colors in Dec. He is a chump. Falcons suck. 2008 is gone, let the past be the past.

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!

TEAM FLACCO ALL THE WAY AND IF THE RAVENS BEAT MY STEELERS THEN THERE WILL BE NO DEBATE. IF FLACCO PLAYS FOR THE SUPER BOWL> THE YOU CAN”T COMPARE THE 2

By bigeasy830

January 16, 2009 7:32 AM | Link to this

The biggest difference between Flacco and Ryan after Sundays game at worst Flacoo will be 2-1 in the play-offs, Ryan will be 0-1. If you can’t come up big in Dec. and Jan. then you can’t romp and stomp with the big dogs. Flacco lead his team to th eplay-offs by playing great fundamental footbal and had very few turn-overs in Dec. and Jan. The Falcons won inspite of Ryan. Turner carried them into the play-offs. Ryan played like a chump in crunch time, now argue that. And, I don’t want to read about Ryan hit the Rookie Wall. Flacco is a rookie also.

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!

By Flatt0-less fan

January 16, 2009 7:39 AM | Link to this

Let me put this out there, I am not a Matt Ryan Fan! With that said, I am a falcons fan, and I think Matt Ryan has a lot of work to do. I think that he stepped into a bad situation and showed a lot of skill, a lot of promise and is sill leaps and bounds better than flat-o.. I mean Flacco…. Flacco has by far the best defense in recent history, that scores almost more than his offensive teams do…. they avarage more yards per play (on fumble and interception returns) than any phase of their offense. If you plugged Troy in flacco’s spot, the team may even be better. Flacco is going to be good…. but not as good as Ryan, unless they get Vick next year and put him in the “I” formation and run pitch and pass, or the wild-Vick or have a option for either Q-back to throw.(cant wait to have my #7 lions Jersey in 09… Vick to the lions so they can draft some o linemen… go Falcons go Vick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

By Ravens#1

January 16, 2009 8:17 AM | Link to this

When the Ravens and Flacco beat the steelers on sunday Flacco will be the only rookie starting to qb every to lead his team to a SB. Some ryan fans are arguing ryan is better because the steelers are going to beat us…how does that even enter the debate for ryan is better. We’re playing in the afc championship game, ryan was one and done. you’re pretty much proving our point that flacco is better. Flacco does have a unibrow (which is hilarious) but your qb still has his voice crack during every sentence, and you say he has confidence. One bad year for ryan and you’ll jump all over him and he’ll never be the same qb. There’s no debate we’re still playing and ryans playing with himself. Flacco will win Superbowl MVP!

By Drago

January 16, 2009 8:34 AM | Link to this

I must break you.

By NCFalconFan

January 16, 2009 8:38 AM | Link to this

For all of you so called “Flacco supporters” you are really Vick supporters. If Flacco was our QB, you would not have anything nice to say about him. I don’t recall Vick ever winning a Superbowl for the Falcons. I wish you all would please let it go!!!

By Team Ryan

January 16, 2009 9:12 AM | Link to this

**When Ryan only needs to complete 40% of his passes (Flacco went 9 for 23 in Miami) then we can compare. The Falcons can not and will not be able to ever win in that nature.”“

**The unfortunate situation about the Falcon QB situation is that not only will Ryan have to produce on the field consistently, which I believe he can do, he will forever have to hear about Vick and I think he has the mental toughness to do that. Not sure if Flacco would be able to handle the constant reminder of Vick by all of the idiot Vick supporters on this board, in this city and on the AJC Staff, T. Moore.””

By Michael

January 16, 2009 9:26 AM | Link to this

Hats off to Flacco, he is a very good QB, but the Ravens are where they are primarily because of their defense. If Matt Ryan were the Ravens QB he’d probally be in the AFC Championship too! Imagine how dominate the Falcons would be if Ray Lewis, Ed Reed and the rest of the Ravens D were wearing Falcon uniforms.

By Ravens#1

January 16, 2009 9:58 AM | Link to this

Ryan could complete only 40% of his passes and win if he didn’t throw picks, fumble, and get sacked in the biggest game of the year. Try Flacco has not had a negative play in the playoffs yet this year! How about that stat. don’t make excuses about ryan needing to hear about vick. Joe goes out and wins because he is a winner. Ryan in big games 0-1(loser). Flacco 2-0(winner).

By bigeasy830

January 16, 2009 10:25 AM | Link to this

Understand this, in the grander scheme of things, it is not about Ryan or Flacco. The name of the game is win the Super Bowl. YES, baltimore has a great defense. Defense wins championships. That is why you should have drafted Drosey. I said earlier in the year that if Dosey was already gone with the first or second pick then Ryan would have been my choice. I thought Anderson would have shown better improvement this year so drafting another DE ala Chris Long would have been the wrong choice in the long run. You can’t keep drafting the same position year after year ala Dan Reevse and those tight ends. But, Dorsey was still there. Build your defense. The GM is not as smart as many of you believe. He got tricked by trading those 2 nd round choices for Baker. Baker would have been there in the 2nd round. The Falcons could have used those picks. But, plan and simple, The Falcons are not as close to the level of Baltiomore as in being close to a Super Bowl because they have not drafted right or traded right. If not for the signing of Turner they would have been 4-12. So don’t hate because Baltiomore knows how to build a championship caliber team. The Falcons will never get there and Ryan is a chump.

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!!

By Slim Shady

January 16, 2009 10:26 AM | Link to this

bigeasy830

The biggest difference between you and someone who actually knows what they’re saying is the W-I-D-E @$$ gap between your ears. Flacco wouldn’t have done half of what Ryan did for the Falcons. Poor guy would have crumbled with all the hate filled flip flopping @$$ people like you pretending to be something you’re not. You’ve been EXPOSED as the fraud that you are. Go ahead and stay on the I Hate Matt Ryan Trail because he made you look like a chump. Don’t be mad at him for making you look stupid. You made yourself look stupid by predicting nothing but failure from Ryan only to have him completely destroy all expectations. Then you go on to say that you have no problem with him and that it’s hard to argue with the drafting of this years ROY only to follow that up by calling him a chump. Which one is it? I guess in front of the Vick Supporters you punk under pressure! Now argue that!!

By Sarah B

January 16, 2009 10:44 AM | Link to this

By bigeasy830

January 16, 2009 10:45 AM | Link to this

Slim Shady, Until the Falcons make it to at least the NFC Championship game, I was right. One in done in the paly-offs means nothing. Flip Flop on that. Most experts thought the Falcons would suck, OK they had a good record. But that weak NFC South team lost everyone of their play-off games. The Falcons still suck and so does Ryan.

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!

By Ravens#1

January 16, 2009 11:02 AM | Link to this

Sarah B - how is the Ed reed statement even come into discussion for this debate, make an intelligent argument please. What Matt Ryan did this season was choke in the one big game this year. he got picked, got saftied, and had a fumble returned for 6. Oh and you can’t wait till next year because you’re out of the playoffs, Joe and the ravens still playing.

By Slim Shady

January 16, 2009 11:25 AM | Link to this

bigeasy830

You say that until the Falcons make it to at least the NFC Championship game, you are right. LMAO at you! Right about what? The main goal for every team should be to not only make the Super Bowl, but win it. That means every year 31 teams belly flop on that goal. You can hate on Ryan all you want for making you look like a chump. Guess what he’s gonna do next season? Make you look like a chump! I could care less if you like Ryan or not. Hell, I still like Vick, but I’m not going to bash Ryan only to change my opinion about him then go back to bashing him when the Vick Supporters get on the blog so I can make nice with them. Only a belly flopping @$$ chump like yourself would do such a thing.

By RAZOR

January 16, 2009 12:13 PM | Link to this

give Ryan a defense like baltimore and ill show you a superbowl winner

By Sarah B

January 16, 2009 12:24 PM | Link to this

That’s the point Ravens#1 - still playing Because of Ed Reed not Flacco. I don’t hate the kid or The Ravens, in fact I hope they knock those arrogant Steelers out of it and we have an all Birds SB43 with Cards and Ravens - the 2 unexpected teams going at it. High scoring offense vs. super defense. Old dude vs. Rookie will make a great game!

By Raven#1

January 16, 2009 12:27 PM | Link to this

Razor - ryan with our defense would have lost us the game because he gets sacked in the endzone, throws picks, and fumbles the ball for 6 the other way, like he did in the arizona game. He would have been the weak link, that god for flacco.

By Kenny

January 16, 2009 12:29 PM | Link to this

I usually just like to sit back and read all your arguments but i had to jump in on this one. I am really tired of people saying that Flacco should be ROY because it is simply not true. Ryan had to carry his whole team(with some help from Turner and White) as a rookie and still made the playoffs. Now this is my argument, while all you people are complaining about Ryan receiving ROY and not Flacco, who is the one that has a chance to get to the Superbowl? Thats rite, Flacco, wouldnt you rather have a chance to make it to the superbowl then to have your QB recieve ROY? i know i would, so stop complaining because your team is getting alot more than we have RIGHT NOW. Stop trying to take away what us loyal falcon fans have and start thinking about how your team has a chance to beat the steelers and go to the superbowl. you should be grateful your team made it this far because you just have no idea…..Hands down Ryan deserves ROY and hands down Flacco deserves to be in the championship game so with that Team Ryan wins……..

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 16, 2009 1:04 PM | Link to this

RYAN LEAF VS JOE FLACCO

——-CHECK THIS OUT———-

mailto:comm-990700765@craigslist.org?subject=Poetry%20Contest

No offense to Matt Ryan….Joe Flacco is the better quarterback

I’ve tried to hold this in as long as possible. But the time has come to let it out. Its time for me to become a man and defy every sports analyst in the industry. Are you ready for it? Here it is…..

JOE FLACCO IS BETTER THAN MATT RYAN.

And i’m not talking about a lot better than Matt Ryan. But its enough to make a compelling argument as to why these awards are giving off 2 Months before the season is actually over. And while i’m on the subject, i wonder who the Coach of the Year would be if we had a couple of more weeks to disect the subject. Something tells me Andy Reid, Ken Whisenhunt, and Jon Harbaugh, who combined for 0 votes, would have got a little more consideration. But thats another story.

For now we can focus on Joe Flacco, who for the time being, is making every NFL analyst look as dumb as the teenage guy who turned down Kim Lakefield for the Prom. I know….Kim Lakefield. Nobody turns down Kim, especially not with a last name like that.

But thats exactly how Joe Flacco makes them look sometimes. He is incredibly poised for a 23 year old thrust into the mega spotlight. Last year he was playing for Delaware in the Division II Championship. Today, he’s preparing to play with the Baltimore Ravens for the AFC Championship, and the right to play in the SuperBowl. Few quarterbacks ever get to the playoffs. He’s about to make some Hall of Famers very jealous.

Not only is he making history, but he along with Matt Ryan are changing the long time conception that Rookie Quarterbacks are not suppose to succeed.

But what makes this kid better than Matt Ryan is the fact that he’s doing more with less. Ryan had better weapons and the weaker divsion.

Flacco works with what he has and believe it or not, making some sub-par receivers look very good.

And i know you guys are thinking that Joe Flacco is succeeding because of that stellar defense.

NEWS FLASH!!!

This defense has been there forever. They are succeeding because they have an offense. They are succeeding because of Flacco.

The Ravens have only been to the AFC Championship 1 other time, and that was when they won the Super Bowl. They haven’t been back since. At least, not until now.

Joe Flacco reminds me of Peyton Manning. The big arm, the way he studies the game, and the way nothing seems to bother him.

Matt Ryan reminds me of Tom Brady. Ice in his veins. Making all the right throws. And lets face it, he’s ok on the eyes.

Still its obvious that Joe Flacco is the better quarterback. The proof is in the pudding. And if ya need more proof, Joe Flacco is sure to give you some. Just tune in on Sunday at 6:30 pm. Pittsburgh may be eating a lot of that pudding on the field. Jan 14, 2009 | 11:01PM | report this

By RYAN SUPPORTER 2

January 16, 2009 1:09 PM | Link to this

HMMM … I WONDER WHY RYAN WON ROY BY A LANDSLIDE THEN?!

GUESS THE PEOPLE WHO COVER THE SPORT KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN RAVENS AND VICK FANS, HUH?

LOVE HOW THE RAVENS STILL WON ALL THOSE EARLY GAMES WHEN FLUKE-O WAS THROWIN PICKS LEFT AND RIGHT! YEAH, THAT WASN’T BECAUSE OF THE DEFENSE, RIGHT?

9 FOR 23 IN A PLAYOFF WIN?!! YEAH FLUKE-O WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE!

FUNNY HOW BS2 DOESN’T MENTION HOW TURNER STRUGGLED AND WAS INEFFECTIVE AGAINST THE CARDS, GUESS THAT WAS RYAN’S FAULT TOO.

OH YEAH, BRING BACK VICK!!!

(CUZ HE MAKES ME LAUGH)

By Kenny

January 16, 2009 1:21 PM | Link to this

White can make Ryan much better if he can make the BIG CATCH ! I f he throw to Jinkins more he would be better even better.

All I can say is THE ravens are still playing….. Matt will get better. Both are rookies and lets see what happens this weekend and next Year ! Go Falcons ! Some people ned to understand, that Mike will not be the QB of the Falcons again ! Think about winning, this is a business ! HEY ! Brookings you need, local boy your time is UP !

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 16, 2009 1:23 PM | Link to this

SARAH B

MAKING COOKIES MAY BE A BETTER OPTION…..

IF REED HAD 3-PICKS PER GAME, HE WOULD HAD 48-PICKS FOR THE SEASON….

….FOR THE RECORD….THE CARDINALS ARE NOT A GOOD TEAM….THE NFC SOUTH JUST MAKES THEM LOOK GOOD….

THE EAGLES WILL EXPOSE THE FALCONS EVEN MORE WITH THEIR SHUTDOWN PERFORMANCE……

FLACCO IS SUPERIOR TO LEAF….BUT LETS FACE IT….MCNABB IS THE BEST QB IN THE LEAGUE WITH THE LACK OF RECEIVERS……WELL THE BEST UNTIL….

JANUARY 20, 2009 :)

By The first Kenny to blog

January 16, 2009 1:45 PM | Link to this

Is Jan 20th the release date for Vick or somethin? I thought he wasn’t being released til June

By neck-ville Falcons& FANS

January 16, 2009 1:48 PM | Link to this

The people who cover sport are bias as hell! If he is not a golden boy at QB the Media has no use for them no matter how good QB they are . You can be a running back DB but QB not in the NFL. You are a outcast from day one . Read any new paper ,Bias as hell ESPN, Fox sport, SI, most of all of them are good Ole boys Local 680 the fan is a joke. Most of the players are black but the system is keeping Black QB out of the Game. It is not that they can’t play the game the game don’t want them to play QB! Ryan had a great running back the offense line in much better and coaching is much better. any body that has or had season ticket knows this is the case in Neck-ville. And for Ryan he did what the system let him do! He is not a bad kid but the system is bad!(NFL owner) and media!! Listen to any Game with a Black QB playing and listen to the media outcast him every game on the tube now day’s flat screen TV!!!! Just listen to the good OLE BOYS. This is there system and it will be a long time before they get close to being fair! Sure hope MCnab wins for all the Black QB now and before him for all the SH-T they gone though by the system!!!

By Ravens#1

January 16, 2009 1:54 PM | Link to this

Kenny stop your whining it’s just annoying, yes we all want the superbowl ring that’s not what this debate was about. ROY, MVP, Coach of the year, we know they all don’t matter because they’re for the Regular Season. If you voted for those awards after the season maybe Ryan still gets ROY, no way mike smith wins coach of the year. I don’t know how the superbowl winner wouldn’t win that award unless it was a turnaround like the dolphins season. we’re not trying to take anything away from what ryan has done for you crybaby. your cities talk show started this debate you whiner. Flacco wins in the games that matter, Ryan hasn’t yet(one and done). He’s a good player but he choked in that game huge and lost you that game. They stacked the box with 8 guys and 9 sometimes and ryan still got sacked in the endzone through picks and fumbled the ball for 6 the other way, choked! He didn’t deserve the nickname matty ice for that game.

By bigeasy830

January 16, 2009 2:24 PM | Link to this

You people are happy that your QB won the ROY award, while real football fans in Baltiomore are Cheering their team on in the AFC championship game. Falcon fans have such a loser mentality. Who cares about individual awards. I will put it this way. Good players have very good stats in the regular season, but great players are defined by great plays in great moments. Matt Ryan is at home Flacco is playing in the AFC Championship game. Flacco has made great thorws in the play-offs, that bullet he threw down the sidelines in that last game, no way can weak ar Ryan make that throw. Ryan had a good statistical rookie season, but Flacco if they win Sunday and if they win the Super Bowl, his season will be defined as great and his career will be on a path to greatness ala Big Ben. Until Ryan comes up big in Dec. and Jan. you Ryan Supporters have no argument at all.

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!

By The first Kenny to blog

January 16, 2009 2:40 PM | Link to this

Ravens#1-Like you havent been whining this whole time…..Just shut it and lets see if Flacco will earn his “Joe Cool” nickname against the best Defense in the league…lets see how many times he throws picks and fumbles against the steelers….You just made this game even more fun to watch, LETS GO STEELERS!!

GO FALCONS ‘09-‘10

By Slim Shady

January 16, 2009 2:46 PM | Link to this

Ravens#1

Congratulations on your teams success this year. I have no problem with Flacco. I’m glad you guys finally got your QB of the future. That position seems to have held the team back for a while now. Both he and Ryan are talented QB’s and helped their respective teams get into the post season. I’m not going to pretend like I know everything thats going on with your team, but if Flacco could have come to this city and succeed like Ryan did then more power to him. Don’t let Vick Supporter 2 fool you. If the Falcons would have replaced his God with Flacco then he would have been bashing him as well. Vick still holds that iconic status with a lot of people and it might be a long time before it goes away. There was a lot of pressure put on Ryan to come in and provide a different kind of face. I’m not saying Flacco couldn’t do it, I’m just saying Ryan did do it. And as far as saying Ryan choked, well maybe he did and maybe he didn’t, but he was the only offense we had in that game. Right after they showed the promo of Ryan and why he’s called Matty Ice, Collinsworth says it seems like a Matty Ice moment and then Ryan leads the offense down the field for a TD. If the Ravens had lost with Flacco’s stats looking the way they do, would you say he choked?

By bigeasy830

January 16, 2009 2:52 PM | Link to this

By Ravens fan, YOU ARE THE MAN, MAN. Eventhough I am an old school Steelers Fan. I have much respect for the way the city of Baltimore and Art Modell stuck behind Ray Lewis through his ordeal. That is what fans and the owner of their team is suppose to do. ATLANTA and Arthur Blank…well you know what they did, DAMN PETA lovers.

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!

By The first Kenny to blog

January 16, 2009 2:53 PM | Link to this

I like Slim Shady’s Comment, i feel the same way but i am still rooting for the Steelers in that game

By bigeasy830

January 16, 2009 3:00 PM | Link to this

The only people who gives a damn about the 2007 for the Falcons are well the Falcons. The rest of the country had their own problems. The ravens won only one more game than the Falcons so how was Flacco’s situation any different. Plus, Flacco was not handed the startin QB job during OTAs. He was behind the learning curve and had to catch up around the 3rd pre-season game. Anyway, who care about individual awards are you a fan of your team or just a Matt Ryan jock sniffer.

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!!

By Ravens#1

January 16, 2009 3:05 PM | Link to this

Kenny - I’m not whining during this debate, I’m making points stating facts. You cry about your past team and what it went through and want ppl to feel sorry for you. Whatever happens in this game with the steelers Joe already kicked more a* this year than matty choke in the big game. I’m glad you’re rooting for the steelers I don’t want your whining a* rooting for my team. And Joe still hasn’t had a negative play in the playoffs (no sacks, no picks, no fumbles), thats a stat for winners.

By nativefalcon

January 16, 2009 3:11 PM | Link to this

Anybody saying Flacco is a better QB than Ryan needs their brain examined. His last game against the Dolphins 9-23. Notice in each game he’s in the defense saves him. If the Falcons had the Ravens defense we would have been going to the Super Bowl. Flacco is going to get knocked out this weekend. So all the little Vick nut huggers that can’t get it thru their head that VICK IS NEVER COMING BACK TO ATLANTA. Can right all the threads they want to against Ryan. He is tons more accurrate than Flacco and VICK and the numbers prove it.

Ryan 16 Tds 11 INTS 3440 yards and a rating of 87.7

got sacked 17 times

Flacco 14 Tds 12 INTS 2971 yards and a rating of 80.3

got sacked 32 times

Numbers don’t lie, and its always helpful if your not that good to have the No.2 defense in football. Flaccos job was alot easier. Ryan blows him away. **

By Sarah B

January 16, 2009 3:21 PM | Link to this

Well, this has just turned into a b!tchfest and no longer rational speaking of football so I am going to go make those cookies now….. and leave you idiots to yourselves.

By Ravens#1

January 16, 2009 3:45 PM | Link to this

Slim Shady - You look at Flacco’s stats and say they’re bad because they’re not sportscenter eye popping stats, I get that. The stats that matters the most are wins. If Ryan had a playoff win I’d be more impressed with his rookie year. For the debate of who had a better rookie year I think without question Flacco going this far in the playoffs and without a negative play for his team is an eye popping stat. Ryan didn’t do that for his team, he had crucial turnovers and took a sack in the endzone. Yes he did put together some nice drives but in the end he hurt your team. If he doesnt fumble, throw a pick, and get sacked in the endzone you win that game. If Flacco chokes in the game this Sunday yeah I’ll say he choked. Either way he’s had two wins to ryans zero wins, the debate is over in my mind, Team Flacco

By Sarah B

January 16, 2009 3:47 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah and I consider getting an insult from VS2 the end of a good day!

By Ravens#1

January 16, 2009 3:53 PM | Link to this

native falcon - 9 -23 with no picks no sacks and no fumbles, no errors! Count how many times Ryan made bad decisions in the arizona game. Ryan makes all those bad decisions in either of our games we lose them. The stats for the regular season don’t count if one qb goes way farther in the post season than the other qb. Get your head examined flacco is 13-5, ryan is 11-6. thats the stat that matters. Football is all about wins not any other stats. Ryan(0-1) one and done, Flacco (2-0).

By Slim Shady

January 16, 2009 3:59 PM | Link to this

Ravens#1

That’s sounds reasonable, everybody has their own opinion. Doesn’t make it wrong. Good Post!

By Russ

January 16, 2009 4:17 PM | Link to this

bigeasy830 actually put the following sentences together back-to-back:

*Anyway, who care about individual awards are you a fan of your team or just a Matt Ryan jock sniffer.

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!!*

Good point, you wouldn’t want to just worship one player over a team…moron.

By RYAN SUPPORTER 2

January 16, 2009 4:45 PM | Link to this

FLACCO IS BETTER THAN VICK.

NO FELONIES THAT I’VE HEARD OF.

THERE WERE IDIOTS WHO DIDN’T LIKE FAVRE EARLY IN GREEN BAY. THERE WERE MORONS WHO WERE DOWN ON PEYTON WHEN HE THREW THE GAZILLION PICKS IN HIS ROOKIE YEAR.

RYAN IS A SMART KID THAT HAS A GREAT WORK ETHIC AND HUMILITY SO HE PROBABLY DOESN’T GIVE A $HIT WHAT SOME JERK-OFFS HAVE TO SAY

FROM WHAT I HEAR, FLUKE-O IS A PRETTY NICE KID AS WELL. BUT THE KID DIDN’T EVEN THROW FOR 3000 YARDS WHILE RYAN THREW FOR OVER 3400.

SO DON’T GIMME THAT BS THAT FLUKE-O WAS THE REASON THE RAVENS WON THEIR GAMES.

THE TRUTH IS THAT THE RAVENS HAVE ALWAYS HAD P**-POOR $%^# FOR QB’S -LIKE KYLE BOLLER, ETC.

IF THE RAVENS HAD A DECENT QB, LIKE FLUKE-O, THAN THEY WOULD START WINNING AGAIN BECAUSE OF THEIR DEFENSE. PERIOD.

THEY WON A SUPERBOWL WITH TRENT DILFER AS QB.

I REST MY CASE.

By RYAN SUPPORTER 2

January 16, 2009 4:50 PM | Link to this

HEY MORON#1

THEN BY YOUR REASONING, I GUESS FLUKE-O IS PLAYIN’ BETTER THAN PEYTON MANNING SINCE HIS TEAM’S OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS AFTER ONE GAME TOO, HUH?

BRILLANT LOGIC, GENIUS.

By Ravens#1

January 16, 2009 5:06 PM | Link to this

RS2 - In the Tennesse game we had 30 rushes for 50 yards. Flacco won that game. He had some huge drives to put up points on the #1 team in the NFL. Our Defense gave up nearly 400 yards of offense, (got three turnovers in the red zone, thank god). Also you talk about our D so much look at your O and what ryan has to work with. A top 5 receiver, The second best running back and a game changer like norwood (why that guy doesnt the ball 15 times a game boggles my mind). Flacco wins and that what matters in the NFL. This isn’t baseball where everything is based on stats. How many superbowls you win is all ppl are remembered for. Flacco is one game away from having a shot at one and thats why he’s had the better year.

By Ravens#1

January 16, 2009 5:10 PM | Link to this

RS2 - manning didn’t lose the game for his team, he carried them to overtime. Ryan made poor decisions and cost his team in the biggest game of the year. Flacco wins, Ryan blew it.

By falcon21

January 16, 2009 5:27 PM | Link to this

I hear the Ravens may be moving to LA. Any truth to that?

By Calvin G. Sims, Sr.

January 16, 2009 6:07 PM | Link to this

*This is easy. *

When you measure where a man is, you have to take into consideration from where he started. The Ravens could go on and even win the Super Bowl, still, Joe Flacco would not have accomplished nearly as much as Matt Ryan.

See, the Ravens had a well established team and a premier defense when Flacco took over, and as we all know, defense wins in the playoff. Matty Ice, on the other hand, took over a team that was in total disarray. Who accomplished more?

Told you, this was easy.

Go Falcons!!!

By chris

January 16, 2009 6:31 PM | Link to this

no debate - ryan

By The first Kenny to blog

January 16, 2009 6:39 PM | Link to this

RUSS-Who is worshipping a player over the damn team, we are talkin about ryan and flacco you moron!! i didnt even go for the Ryan pick, i wanted dorsey, i am a falcon fan over anything, i dont like players over teams…i swear some of u people are illiterate…man im done that why i dont post on these……….

By falcon21

January 16, 2009 6:43 PM | Link to this

Ryan is a better QB hands down.And anyone that thinks AB did not stand behind Vick has got to be brain dead.He just did’nt stand far enough behind because he got dumped on.

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 16, 2009 7:24 PM | Link to this

RYAN LEAF VS JOE FLACCO

——-CHECK THIS OUT———-

No offense to Matt Ryan….Joe Flacco is the better quarterback

I’ve tried to hold this in as long as possible. But the time has come to let it out. Its time for me to become a man and defy every sports analyst in the industry. Are you ready for it? Here it is…..

JOE FLACCO IS BETTER THAN MATT RYAN.

And i’m not talking about a lot better than Matt Ryan. But its enough to make a compelling argument as to why these awards are giving off 2 Months before the season is actually over. And while i’m on the subject, i wonder who the Coach of the Year would be if we had a couple of more weeks to disect the subject. Something tells me Andy Reid, Ken Whisenhunt, and Jon Harbaugh, who combined for 0 votes, would have got a little more consideration. But thats another story.

For now we can focus on Joe Flacco, who for the time being, is making every NFL analyst look as dumb as the teenage guy who turned down Kim Lakefield for the Prom. I know….Kim Lakefield. Nobody turns down Kim, especially not with a last name like that.

But thats exactly how Joe Flacco makes them look sometimes. He is incredibly poised for a 23 year old thrust into the mega spotlight. Last year he was playing for Delaware in the Division II Championship. Today, he’s preparing to play with the Baltimore Ravens for the AFC Championship, and the right to play in the SuperBowl. Few quarterbacks ever get to the playoffs. He’s about to make some Hall of Famers very jealous.

Not only is he making history, but he along with Matt Ryan are changing the long time conception that Rookie Quarterbacks are not suppose to succeed.

But what makes this kid better than Matt Ryan is the fact that he’s doing more with less. Ryan had better weapons and the weaker divsion.

Flacco works with what he has and believe it or not, making some sub-par receivers look very good.

And i know you guys are thinking that Joe Flacco is succeeding because of that stellar defense.

NEWS FLASH!!!

This defense has been there forever. They are succeeding because they have an offense. They are succeeding because of Flacco.

The Ravens have only been to the AFC Championship 1 other time, and that was when they won the Super Bowl. They haven’t been back since. At least, not until now.

Joe Flacco reminds me of Peyton Manning. The big arm, the way he studies the game, and the way nothing seems to bother him.

Matt Ryan reminds me of Tom Brady. Ice in his veins. Making all the right throws. And lets face it, he’s ok on the eyes.

Still its obvious that Joe Flacco is the better quarterback. The proof is in the pudding. And if ya need more proof, Joe Flacco is sure to give you some. Just tune in on Sunday at 6:30 pm. Pittsburgh may be eating a lot of that pudding on the field. Jan 14, 2009 |

By falcon21

January 16, 2009 7:48 PM | Link to this

That was a good post VS2,but I myself think Ryan is better. That is just what I think. You made some good points without trying to p** people off. We will find out sunday, sould be a good game.

By falcon21

January 16, 2009 9:43 PM | Link to this

My bad AJC I said a bad word.Will not happen again. SORRY!!!

By Henry V111

January 17, 2009 12:37 AM | Link to this

Who wrote this article? what a waste of time. You are comparing two Qb’s so I take it that you meant who is the better QB and not who is the best of the two. Remember when you compare two it is better and three or more is best. Give us some i nfo on Draft prospects or interviews with Falcons Brass and not this sorry a** article.

By bigeasy830

January 17, 2009 6:48 AM | Link to this

VS2 Payton Manning does not have a big arm, if anything Ryan should remind people more of Manning because early in the season, he was more fundamentally sound in his delivery and his decision making. Flacco is moore like Big Men big strong QB from small school.I am sick of the Ryan/Brady comparison. Until Ryan and the Falcons win multiple Super Bowls, let that one go. Brady ws not one and done is his first play-off appearence.

By Gunner

January 17, 2009 9:43 AM | Link to this

Look at the STATS.

MATTY ICE THREW FOR MORE YARDS AND HAD A HIGHER QB RATING.

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 17, 2009 3:19 PM | Link to this

CHAMPIONSHIP WEEKEND

———WHO’S PLAYING?———-

LEAF

OR

FLACCO

By neck-ville Falcons& FANS

January 17, 2009 4:37 PM | Link to this

one year is no standard. all of this wishful think of a super bowl. on the real to hell with qb defense is the standard. and where do the neck-ville falcons rank. Until they become a team ranked in the top eight you are just wasting you blog time. Ryan, Vick,flacco. Flacco has the best chance because they have the prototype defense. Malabo is third and pit is second. That why neck-ville should have drafted defense in the first round. That why you need football players like ray Lewis and in neck-ville and the necks and good ole boy media will never stand for that why they will all ways lose . Mind set in ownership fans and media must change. hate is so strong on both side. one side has the power but it will not matter until we come together as a team , fans owners, and media that stand together we can and will win. Be let get real this is neck-ville . listen to the bias sport media bias owners bias and fans bias. But change must come to neck-ville and right now is not our season for change but it will come watch and see!!! I hope ME and many other can live to see it!!!

By under stand how to win not in the ATL.

January 17, 2009 4:45 PM | Link to this

QB rating is for losers . The best stst in football that tells winner and loser is defense take aways.Just the uncut facts!!! who ever win the take aways win the Game!!!

By falcon21

January 17, 2009 5:11 PM | Link to this

Neck-ville my man,speak english.

By dacha

January 17, 2009 7:16 PM | Link to this

I don’t know who wrote that article that VS2 (crackhead) keeps flaunting, but it completely lost credibility when it claimed the Ravens play in a better division than the Falcons! I wish we would have gotten to play both the Bengals and Browns twice!

By JR

January 17, 2009 9:56 PM | Link to this

Like we knew in the draft, MR has best leadership but Flacco had the arm strength. In the end, it looks like arm strength wins. MR under thrown interceptions in playoffs from weak arm was what we feared most. They should wait until the playoffs are over to give out NFL awards.

By falcons fan for life

January 18, 2009 12:31 AM | Link to this

The only reason why joe flacco is where he is today is all because of his defense. If it wasnt for ed reed, ray lewis, and terrel suggs then they would be just another crappy team with a rookie quarterback. But matt ryan just took over a franchise that was falling apart and turned them into a playoff contending team with a mediocor defense and still made the playoffs. Nothing has changed with Ravens just a new quarterback. Plain and simple Ravens+ no defense = joe flacco is a failure

By Two Good QB's

January 18, 2009 12:50 PM | Link to this

Two really great QB’s in the making and they are both white to beat all.

By VICK SUPPORTER 2

January 18, 2009 2:51 PM | Link to this

**FAILURE! FAILURE! FAILURE! FAILURE!

——-LEAF + CHOKE = FAILURE———

THE CARDINALS RAN THROUGH THE NFC SOUTH LIKE THEY WERE IN THE ACC (WHOM LEAF COULDN’T WIN)….

THE CARDINALS ARE NOT A GOOD TEAM…..THE NFC SOUTH IS SO WEAK THAT IT’S MAKING THEM LOOK LIKE A SUPERBOWL TEAM…….

———CHECK THIS OUT—————-

MOBILE QUARTERBACK

VS

ONE DIMENSIONAL “SLOW POKES”

———DONAVON MCNABB———-

THE GREATEST “ACTIVE” QUARTERBACK IN THE LEAGUE…..PERIOD!!!!!!!!

WHEN HE PICKS THE CARDINALS APART TODAY, THE NFC SOUTH WILL BE EXPOSED FOR THE WEAK DIVISION THAT THEY ARE……

———-LEAF - LEAF - LEAF - LEAF————

HE DIDN’T WIN THE “ROY”……HE WON THE “NFC SOUTH ROY”…….

THE TRUE “ROY” IS LEADING HIS TEAM AGAINST THE STEELERS TONIGHT…….

LEAF………

————CHECK THIS OUT—————-

PUT DOWN THOSE HOT WINGS AND BEER AND TURN ON YOUR DVR AND GRAB A CLIPBOARD (GET USED TO IT) AND WATCH A TRUE QUARTERBACK GO AGAINST THE STEELERS TONIGHT…..

————ARE WAKE UP—————-

YOU DRAFTED THE “WRONG GUY”……GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME……

“THE EXPERIMENT FAILED…..TERRIBLY!!!!!!!!

THE NEW FACE OF THE FRANCHISE PITCH DIDN’T WORK….NOBODY BOUGHT INTO IT (EXCEPT THE SNIFFERS)……THE DOME LOST A LOT OF REVENUE…..

MIKE’S DOME WAS EMPTY

THAT’S ALL BOYS AND GIRLS…….

——-ANOTHER PRECIOUS MOMENT———

BY

THE ONE AND ONLY “VICK SUPPORTER 2 :)

By Great black hope

January 18, 2009 7:08 PM | Link to this

43 Super Bowls and still only one. Doug Williams.

By Kenny

January 18, 2009 9:59 PM | Link to this

looks like your man is throwin some INT’s Ravens#1, whats wrong with your ROY

By mars

January 20, 2009 1:42 PM | Link to this

Yeah, wow! That McNabb sure put a hurtin’ on the Cards. Whoa! What a massacre. That should show how weak Matty Ice and the Falcons were, to lose to Arizona! And that Flacco, woo-hoo! Did he ever put it to the Steelers! That should prove who the real Rookie of the Year is. Vick Supporter 2, how DO you do it, man? I’m in awe!