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By Dutch

October 8, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

This is Tuberville’s “Little Big Horn”.

He’s on his way out. They’ve got two classes now, filled with these so-called “spread” linemen and receivers. They’re screwed.

Tubs will resign at the end of the season because there is no way he’s gonna beat the Dawgs or Bama. Heck, he may even lose to West Virginia, Arkansas and Houston Nutt!

Bye Bye Tubby!

By Thomaston Dawg

October 8, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

I would have given him more time, at least until after the UGA game. Of course, I am not an Auburm fan.

By 89viking

October 8, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

man,,,,6 games ???? and i thought the valdosta wildcat coaching job was a rough one !!!!! i know its a OC position but cmon,,,6 games? theres gotta be more to this story !

By aubie1

October 8, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

Auburn has more problems than i thought Tubbervile has got to go.I KNOW OF SOME THINGS THAT HAVE GONE ON AND WE NEEDTO FIRE TUBBERVILLE.YOU AUBURN PEOPLE HAVE TO KNOW I KNOW THE INSIDE SCOOP AND HE NEEDS TO GO NOW!!!!!!!!

By Jason

October 8, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

Tony Franklin’s version of the spread was ok for high schools and the Sun Belt, but in the SEC it just didn’t cut it. The Sun Belt is closer to high school ball than it is to SEC. Perhaps Auburn will learn a lesson about where not to look when hiring coaches.

By CowetaDawg

October 8, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

Is it War Damn Eagle or Damn War Eagle? LOL. 3-2 over MSU was hilarious.

By Dogbyte

October 8, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

This is a clear case of blaming the dog for the bad smell in the room when it was Tubby who ate the beans.

By Dawg

October 8, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Sad to see him go. Was looking forward giving our D a rest that week.

By Mark Richt

October 8, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Sad to see him go. Was looking forward giving our D a rest that week.

By observation

October 8, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Why the heck did Auburn decide it was time to get away from smashmouth football anyway ? Bama may just turn loose a mountain of frustration on the Tigers this year and it ain’t goin’ be no place for women and children.

By Sautee Dawg

October 8, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Bad thing to say after a man’s lost his job but, Probally more of an Alumni decision than a Tubberville decision. Just thinking out loud.

By matt

October 8, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

that was quick…

Auburn has been and always will be a power running team. I’m glad they made this change, it suits their current personnel better and makes them more like to beat those sorry a* pups later this year.

By Verdawg

October 8, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

Auburn CHEATS and they SUCK!

By Carlton Powell

October 8, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

Thought he’d get ‘til the end of the season, but nothing more barring a complete miracle. And as we know, miracles seldom happen. As far as CTT goes, he has to really feel like an idiot, being conned by that high school coach into to the “spread” offense.I know, I know, Franklin coached at Troy as well. But, Troy ain’t the SEC. The biggest issue now will be at QB. He’s stuck with a JUCO transfer who has an arm about half as strong as mine, and Kodi Burns who is becoming a head case. Auburn has too much talent to be clowning around the way they have this year.

By WarEgle

October 8, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

Hire Stan Logan !!!!

By Ross Guy

October 8, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

fired the OC in 2003 as well. next year they ran the table…

By DawgStephen

October 8, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

Isnt this the OFF CORD who brought Troy in and scored all those points in Athens?

Seems like he would have had more success. I would have given it more time.

Something doesnt add up. Good luck to Auburn.

By PTC DAWG

October 8, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

Fonk the Barn…

By Jim

October 8, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

WOW…how many Coordinators have they gone through with Tub? I guess he needed to do something before they fired up the jet. Franklin should call Bowden for counsel. My guess is that the illness that made them get rid of Borgess will magically go away. It will be interesting on the spin this one.

Go Dawgs

By Sean Cavity

October 8, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

Maybe Auburn should consider John McCain… he’s determined, offensive and keeps running.

By YoungDawg

October 8, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

The spread eagle offense was shut down. So I’m guessing Tubs goes back to smashmouth O with form QB coach & now TE coach Steve Ensminger or Hugh Nall calling plays. I think this was too radical of a change that was going to take time because they needed to recruit playmakers at WR to play Franklin’s scheme. When I first heard they were going to the spread I figured it was more the spread option stuff instead of the fast break no huddle run-n-shoot hybrid stuff. You still may see that because they did some of it against Vandy. I think they should have gone with an OC that used the spread & traditional O packages much like most SEC schools are doing. I wonder if they’d bring Patrick Nix in next season as OC. He has Auburn ties, his O is diverse, & includes some spread. If he wants to go spread option then I’d call the App State OC, it doesn’t make sense to me that no one has come & got him yet.

By Wow

October 8, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

Wow. Tuberville has absolutely zero patience. He’s always looking for a quick fix. He’s probably gone through more assistants in the past 5 years than most coaches will go through in an entire career. I don’t think Auburn has been THAT bad. They were in the game with LSU right to the end and losing to Vandy isn’t exactly shameful anymore. All this instability is really going to hurt Auburn. Its back to second tier status for the Barners in my opinion.

By Bill

October 8, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

Tommy Tupperware has a history of throwing his coordinators under the bus. He’s one of the most overrated coaches in the land. His day will come soon.

By Munson's Call

October 8, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

Nice knee jerk reaction, Tubbs. One, when hiring him in the first place and two, firing him mid-season. Maybe he can get Petrino back as OC before Saturday.

By jwads

October 8, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

If you think you can put the spread in in six games and have it be successful you are crazy. I may be biased because I want Auburn to lose every game they play but this is ridiculous. Sounds like Tuberville has been listening to too much sports radio

By Joe

October 8, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this

Lane Kiffin is coming

By BobDog

October 8, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

Tubberville had to do something. The natives were restless. I’m sure his thought process was, “Do I fire myself or fire Franklin?”

By OLD COOT

October 8, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

Roswell Ed where are you now? Roll Tide!

By Denver Dawg

October 8, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

WTF? 6 Games and fired! That’s simply Tubberville playing the “Blame Game.” The guy can’t be expected to change an offense in 6 games, with upperclassmen who were recruited for a different style offense. This would be like firing Michigan’s Rich Rodriguez (who is implementing the same spread-style offense) after his 2-3 start. Tubberville is trying to save is job.

And you guys talking about where Franklin came from need to stop bashing the likes of the Sun Belt. Great BCS coaches have come from weaker conferences and programs (e.g., Urban Meyer from Utah and the Mountain West).

By gary

October 8, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

I love all the dumb georgia fans making fun of Troy and the sunbelt. Any of you morons remember the Troy game last year. I if I am not mistaken they put 34 points up against us last year and were never down more than a touchdown until the end of the game. It could have easily gone the other way quick. Auburn took a chance and it has not payed off. I would have given the coach more time but some folks just can’t wait to turn on someone. I just hope dawg fans are a little more forgiving if we loose a few more this year. Hate for yall to throw Bobo under the bus.

By Dorsey Hill

October 8, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

The best way to get past a big mistake is to acknowledge it quickly rather than further sinking into the abyss trying to prove that you were right to begin with. The only thing dumber would have been to hire June Jones.

You can criticize Tubs for thinking hiring this guy was a good idea, but firing him quickly was the best way to avoid becoming the next Terry Bowden. As much as I wish he’d stuck with him and dragged Auburn into irrelevance, this is the best move he could make.

By War Eagle

October 8, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this

TT must have gotten some pressure from outside sources or maybe the team. The AU nation has been devastated this year, so many expectations, so little results. I thought he should have fired him after the “Dores” loss, just to save face, but that’s not TT. I also thought Franklin should have gone for insubordination concerning TT and the media. He has bad mouthed the situation way too much to have been on the same page as the rest of the TIGERS! The way Franklin talks, the next few days will be interesting. He will write a book and many newspaper columns about this mess, and I am sure it will all be one-sided. AU staff: put all the marbles on Kodi Burns and the ‘I’ and either crash and burn or prove that the real problem was with Franklin all along.

Still bleeding blue and orange! War Eagle - Go AU Tigers

By ed

October 8, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

Funny how he was the greatest thing this last summer. Didn’t Auburn say that having him did wonders to their recruiting and even had the AJC do a story about him. Franklin is much better off getting out of that hole.

By Gary

October 8, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

My memory is a little foggy here but isn’t this the same guy everybody praised for coming in late last season and installing an offense in only 5 weeks that kicked butt in their bowl game? This is the guy that “wrote the book” on the spread offense, right? So why now all of a sudden, he doesn’t know what he’s doing and is fired five games into the season? Must be something else going on here.

By Brian

October 8, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

This is part 1 of the master plan. In part 2, Tennessee will fire their offensive coordinator Coach Clawson so they can hire Franklin up in knoxille.

THEN auburn can get the man they want and hire Coach Dave “Offensive Genius” clawson from knoxville.

Then the plan shall be complete. Both teams will score field goal after field goal and will finish up with 6-6 records all because of their new coaches.

By Crimsonmafia

October 8, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

As a Bama fan I am elated that the Barners are in a fix however Tony Franklin is definately the scapegoat for Tuppervile. Tommy “Tupperware” has shown himself to once again be an inadequate leader for his team. He has no backbone and brings shame to the University of Auburn family. Football or not, right is right and Tony Franklin was treated unfairly. Nuff said.

By Halberstram

October 8, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

Way too fast, this seems very irrational. If it was such a bad hire and required a quick change such as this, then someone at the hiring end needs to take responsibility and explain why this move took place at all.

By Fleet

October 8, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

Well…. does that mean that we’re getting rid of the spread and going back to good ole’ days power football ? Does TT have any interest in a nationally top ranked 2009 power fullback now ? Just curious ….

By T

October 8, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

I just find it hilarious that all the “know-it-all” Auburn fans (war-eagle) whine and complain and call for Tubberville’s job and all that (war-eagle). I’m sure every Auburn fan will have their own resolution (war-eagle) that will be perfect! Did i mention war-eagle? LOL, LOL, LOL.

By CF

October 8, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

Wow, he definitely wasn’t given enough time in just 6 games. You have to have a good QB to run the spread, which Auburn doesn’t in Chris Todd and Kodi Burns isn’t ready yet. What’s with Tuberville & his OC’s?! Wasn’t Franklin like his 5th in not many more years?!?

By Old Dawg

October 8, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this

Always remember: There is reality, and then there’s football in the state of Alabama.

I’m sure Tony Franklin will find another job right after the season’s over. When Tubs gets fired, he’ll be selling used cars with Jackie Sherrill!

By TheItalianDawg

October 8, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

I wish Richt learn from Tommy and fire Martinez,. Martinez wont last 3 games at auburn…

By Dana

October 8, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

Have all you idiots who think Tuberville is the problem instead of Franklin even watched an Auburn game this year? CTT said at the outset that he would be hands-off and let Franklin run the offense. That got us impressive wins over La-Monroe and Southern Miss (gasp) and thank goodness Wes Byrum hit a three-run triple in Starkville and the AU pitching staff allowed only two runs that game. After the LSU loss, Tuberville started making a few offensive decisions for the betterment of the team (e.g. letting Kodi play in the UT and VU games). Franklin had no business coaching in the SEC and Chris Todd has no business playing in the SEC. I hope Todd never plays another down, which I think is entirely possible now that his idol was voted off the Plains. I was going to miss the Arky game on Saturday but I might head out to Jordan-Hare to watching the coming out party. All you Dawg marks laugh now but this is probably the worst thing that could have happened for you guys…November 15 looks like a winnable game again. WAR EAGLE!

By FactorFiction

October 8, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

Paul Johnson didn’t need 6 games. It shouldn’t take 5 minutes to figure out how to score on Miss St.

By dandy don

October 8, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

It’s George Bush’s fault….

By frankly

October 8, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

Whenever Troy played SEC teams they moved the ball on offense. Its not the OC’s fault that Auburn simply does not have the players to effectively run the spread specifically WR’s,

Seems like Tubby is trying to save face.

By OldGold

October 8, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

The problem isn’t the spread-eagle, it’s the lack of talent to run it. You can’t just assume that you’ll be fast enough and smart enough to run an new, more complex offense. Maybe Tommy TubTub should look into the mirror.. there’s your problem chief

By Mike

October 8, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

Never really cared for Tubs - didn’t like the way he left his last job. Yea, the boo-birds demand change and Tubs made this move to save his own neck for a while. Although the firing was too early, the spread won’t work in the SEC anyway - too much speed. Bad move to bring him in to begin with. Now you have all of these “spread” recruits to run another offense at mid-season. Or will Tubs run the spread offense himself to year’s end, knowing less about it than anyone? I don’t know … looks bad for the War Eagle. By the way, did the War Eagle lose his way to Nashville last week, or just ashamed to show up?

By War Eagle

October 8, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Auburn did not have the athletes for the spread offense because their recruiting has not been in that direction until 2008. Auburn will rebound from this CTT hiring mistake. I am still a Tuberville fan and if Auburn wins against UGA and Bama, the spread will still be at Troy and all forgotten..

By lynninsavannah

October 8, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

WE need to go the same to BOBO

By Chris

October 8, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

This was a stupid decision by Tuberville, they don’t have a QB that can run the system yet. It worked against the hounds when Franklin was a Troy and it worked at Kentucky when he was there with Hal Mumme. UF runs the spread in the overated SEC and it has worked- jsut a matter of recruiting the players. Auburn had been running a 1950’s offense under Borges for 5 years and kept him around.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

October 8, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

I agree with dandy don. It’s W’s fault.

Just get it corrected before UGAg.

By Ted

October 8, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

Old Dawg-

Funny you talk about reality here…the land of the blackout, spray tan coach and of course the number 1 team in the country. Give me a break on the reality crap. After Donnan went 8-4 you showed him the door and you talk about reality. Oh wait no you are the one with the heisman candidates…quarterback and running back…back to reality. No you must be the team with the high character…no wait you surpassed the ratio of arrest per team of every school in the country…back to reality. You UGA guys real are too much.

By Whowritesthisstuff?

October 8, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

It’s hard to win in the sec w/o a quarterback. i haven’t seen qb play that bad in a while. but the oc had a stable of backs and a pretty good oline.

By tulsabravo

October 8, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

Hey Dana, you’re an idiot. As is Tuberville. Why would you hire an offensive coordinator to implement the spread offense, then not let him run it, force him to change it, and then fire him when your offense doesn’t move the ball? Pathetic! Franklin’s lucky to be cut loose now, rather than having to run an offense he’s been forced to alter, and that no longer resembles the spread.

By John Stafford

October 8, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

NOTE TO AU FANS: First, I am UGA alum and supporter. Beyond that, any Auburn fan that doesn’t support Tuberville is an idiot. He has won the right way with the right kinds of players. He went 13-0 and was robbed of a deserved national championship. I can’t remember the last time your rival beat you. Remember when the Tide owned you? Beating them feels better, huh? Shame on you War Eagle fans against Tuberville. Be cafeful what you wish for…

By Cuz

October 8, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

Look out Coach Willie, if it can happen at our cousin’s, it can happen to you. Be afraid, be very afraid. What’s that behind you. Ha, made you look.

Bring on the Vols so we can talk football again.

By No nonsense Dawg

October 8, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

I wonder if Tennessee embarrassed the Dawgs for the third straight year would Richt have the intestinal fortitude to fire Martinez? Nah I guess not, but he should if if was to happen.

By tspec

October 8, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

Now if UGA would just fire Mike Bobo and finally get rid of his HighSchool Playbook, we could make a run at that elusive National Title!

BOBO SUCKS!!!!!!!!

By Johnny Danger Dawg

October 8, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

Wow, this is a huge deal. What a mess when they switch offensive strategies so often (and switch what type of players they’re recruiting)! If Auburn wasn’t willing to give Franklin more time, they should have never switched to the spread.

By RICK

October 8, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

This is squarely on Tubby’s shoulders. There is absolutely no pressure on Tommy to fire Franklin, accept for his own conscience of making one of the biggest mistakes concerning a coaching hire.

Tommy went with the trendy offense of today’s College football. And one of his reasons is he said this makes recruiting easy.

Say what you want about Mark Richt but he is consistent and a man of character and integrity. By the way winning is the best recipie for RECRUITING TOP ATHELETES.

By RICK

October 8, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

To ItailianDawg,

YOU SIR, ARE AN IDIOT!

By ADL

October 8, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

I Tubby We Trust

By 2Dawgs

October 8, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this

Aubrun down in flames… I love it. And yes, I wrote Aubrun as I once heard an Auburn fan say.

By ckj

October 8, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

Tubs will learn that to win in this league, one must know how to run the ball.

By G'Vegas Dawg

October 8, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this

Wow!! I thought that he would be fired after the season, or, that they may even give him another season to get this thing going. I am amazed that they didn’t give him more time. However, the spread offense isn’t as prolific as it used to be. DC’s have found the way to stop it and now as an OC you have to be able to run multiple spreads and give different looks. You can’t be stuck in one mode anymore. I guess Franklin proves that!

By pete

October 8, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

I have been following Auburn football since 2000 when my daughter was a freshman I think 2004 is the only year the have had good quarterback play.What a waste with all the talent they have.GO OUT AND RECRUIT A TOP QB AND A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS WILL BE FIXED!

By bama12 titles

October 8, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this

I really hope this doesn’t scare Roswell Ed off. I always lmao when I read his posts so I’m hoping he will man up and keep offering his always humorous opinions

I liked Auburn when they were a power running team. They played smash mouth football just like in the Pat Dye era. But I think Tubbs made the move to a spread offense because he could see the writing on the wall in recruiting. He was getting his clock cleaned in recruiting instate and in the south in general. I think he just knew he was no longer going to be able to get the recruits to man up against the likes of UGA, LSU, and Bama under Saban.

A lot of coaches like Urban, Rodriguez, etc. made their mark using the spread and beating more talented teams with smaller, quicker athletes and I think this was Tubb’s plan. Now he is kinda screwed though because he has all these small, quick athletes in his already full 25 man recruiting class for 09 coming in to play into a system that he shoved after 6 weeks. With all these smallish, 5”9, 160 lb skills players he’s gonna have a hard time going back to a power running game and mathcing up with the ugas, lsu s, and Bamas of the SEC.

I think he screwed up big making a change 6 weeks in. The problem isn’t the system. The problem is the same that Rodriguez has at Michigan. He just doesn’t have the qb he needs to run a spread effectively. Lets face it Todd and Burns both suck. If he had a Pat White it would probably be a whole different story. Tubbs survives this year but will be gone after next year.

By Jason

October 8, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

Just a reminder to all those UGA fans that like to talk sh** about Auburn …. y’all just remember what happened when y’all talked about Alabama and had your little blackout .. that turned into a laugh-out!! You might want to watch what you say, personally if I was a UGA fan, I would be more worried about LSU & FL .. they are coming. And I highly doubt that y’all can handle them. But on the Franklin subject, it most likely WAS an alumni decision or a athletic director decision. Tuberville hasn’t done bad in his time at Auburn. Surely he’s entitled to an off year here and there. Even though, it is frustrating to watch games like they have been playing.

By Vandybeta

October 8, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

First the academic accredidation issues at Auburn, then the firing of Tubs and hiring of Petrino, oh wait…. Then this… What is going on there in southern Alabama?

By BCS Slave

October 8, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

This sounds like a “save Tuberville’s butt” move. They should never have gone spread if they weren’t going to give it more than six games. Even Myer’s offense wasn’t ready in the first season. I don’t get why they would scrap it six games in unless someone told Tommy it’s either the offensive coordinator or him.

By used cars

October 8, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

BORGES AND TUBERVILLE WERE OFFENSIVE GENIUSES WHEN THEY HAD CADILLAC, RONNIE BROWN AND CAMPBELL AND RECEIVERS AND LINEMAN WHO PLAYED IN THE LEAGUE…NOW THEY HAVE RUNNING BACKS MORE LIKE THE DAWGS HAD IN BROWN, LUMPKIN AND WARE…WE WERE IN DENIAL ABOUT OUR TALENT LEVEL UNTIL KNOWSHON CAME ALONG AND I THINK THAT MAY BE THE CASE AT THE PRETTIEST LITTLE JUCO ON THE PLAINS…IT WASN’T BORGES OFFENSE, ITS THE MEDIOCRE PLAYERS OPERATING IT…

By B.D.S.

October 8, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

No, it’s not Franklin’s fault. It’s John McCain’s for deregulating college football. And it’s George Bush’s for invading Iraq. Yep, that’s what my hero Keith Olbermann said…

By "61"

October 8, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this

Maybe Tommy can hire the Arkansas coach.

By Well, Well...

October 8, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

As an Auburn fan, I don’t know if this is good or bad in the long run. Right now it looks bad.

By Coach Noodle

October 8, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

I laugh my butt off everytime I hear some clown say, “Such-and-such an offense won’t work against SEC defenses.”

Using this kind of “logic”, if SEC defenses are “all that”, the score of every SEC game should be 3-2. I mean, if the defenses are THAT good, then NO offensive scheme will work against them. Right?

Folks, I don’t care if you’re talking about the SEC, or high school footbal, or the NFL: it all boils down to personnel and execution.

The bottom line is, there are only four or five basic offensive schemes in all of I-A football. For the most part, everybody is doing the same thing, or TRYING to do the same thing.

In fact, most I-AA and D-II teams are running the same four or five basic offensive schemes that the I-A teams are using.

Thus, the keys to winning on Saturdays are, No. 1, personnel, and No. 2, execution.

By BCS Slave

October 8, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this

It seems to me this is a bad move at this stage of the season. Can the team just go back to their old offensive scheme without a two or three game adjustment period? It seems to be a desperate and risky move.

I’m good friends with a couple of Auburn grads who have criticized the new system, but they weren’t calling for the offensive coordinator’s head. This just doesn’t seem to be a smart move.

By SGT CHRIS

October 8, 2008 7:08 PM | Link to this

I DONT EVEN THINK WHAT AUBURN HAD WOULD BE CONSIDERED A TRUE “SPREAD” OFFENSE..I MEAN, IN THE GAMES I SAW, I NEVER SAW A QB/RB OPTION, A, QB/WR OPTION, NEVER SAW REVERSES FOR THAT MATTER..I THINK THEY RAN MORE OF A ONE BACK OFFENSE THAN A TRUE SPREAD

AND WHOEVER SAID AUBURN SHOULD HIRE PATRICK NIX, YOU CAN HAVE HIM. IVE NEVER SEEN MORE CONSERVATIVE PLAYCALLING FOR MIAMI..RUN FIRST DOWN, RUN SAME PLAY ON SECOND DOWN, THROW THE BALL SHORT OF THE FIRST DOWN, PUNT…YOU CAN HAVE NIX!!!

By Eric1

October 8, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

Most of you people are total idiots. It’s expected of the UGAs and Bammers but you so-called Auburn fans should have more class. Tuberville has been great for Auburn and he has a winning record against every coach in the SEC. If you support Auburn, you’ll support our coach. If he thinks firing Franklin is best for the team, then it IS best for the team. He’s our leader and he, not you, is in charge. Give ‘em hell Tommy. I’m with you all the way. War Damn Eagle!!!

By ttown one

October 8, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

Come on, if this were Mike Bobo at UGA he’d be ran out of the Athen’s Kennel on a rail. Football involves a lot of $$$ and losing doesn’t get you any.

Auburn just got this coach, so they have yet to formulate an entire 2 yrs of recruiting classes with this new system. Auburn will be fine. Some of you think you are above reproach b/c you are UGA fans. You are ignorant in your thoughts.

I am not tied to UGA or Auburn, but the fans at UGA are what make people hate them. You “dawgs” need to worry about why so many of your players like that Clarke Co. jail so much, instead of taking shots at anyone else. Maybe, if they could make parole at the same time, UGA might make a game out of their trip to Baton Rouge. At least beat FLORIDA.

By Maniac is accurate

October 8, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this

I agree with others, there has to be more to this story. Personality clashes, Franklin acts like a prima donna,or something. Weird.

By Dawgstephen

October 8, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this

Coach Noodle

GOOD POST!! Totally agree. I remember last year when John Matthew Stafford faked the handoff to the RB, and went 40 yards for a TD against tech.

Thats the same play Tebow runs at FLA about 20 times a game. ITS ALL ABOUT PLAYERS AND EXECUTION!!!

Good Luck Auburn

By bigdawg

October 8, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this

To UGA fans-WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN HOUSE!

By Tech Fan in UGA Country

October 8, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

I heard that Franklin blamed the players and the other coaches for the spread not working and Tuberville had enough of it. When Franklin stopped being a team player and was worried only about himself, that was all she wrote. Makes you respect Tuberville a little more than thinking he was blaming Franklin and fired him before he had a real chance, doesn’t it.

By T'VILLE DAWG

October 8, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this

That’s like asking if taking an arthritis drug a couple of days would do the trick, now it’s cost Franklin his old job to. Maybe he should sue Tommy T.

By Bubba1

October 8, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

Hey Eric1….The King has no clothes on!

By h00pscoach

October 8, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

Auburn is right where they should be based on 1)personnel and 2) execution (Coach Noodle hit it on the head).

They have a new oc, no QB’s with experience or talent, and less than average SEC receivers and are struggling to execute.

They have lost twice. Once to an LSU team that has better personnel and who are executing better. They lost at Vanderbilt to a team that had 2 QB’s that had much more talent and executed better. By the way nobody has beaten LSU or Vandy yet.

The bad news for Auburn is you can’t add any new players midyear and this is the easy schedule year - all the ‘bigs’ at home except Bama. If Tubby looses 5 or more he’s gone.

By Zach

October 8, 2008 7:37 PM | Link to this

I love the bulldog fans who make fun of Auburn when their last performance was, how can I say it politely, terrible! Way to make bama look about 100x better than they really are. I like the fans who say we’ll never beat Bama, when we’ve beaten them 6 years in a row. Why don’t you worry about the convicts on your own team, and tell them that games start in the first quarter not the third. But reading some of these post it doesn’t surprise me that the fans are half as smart as the genius football players.

Tony Franklin had no clue what he was doing, and anybody who’s ever played a football video game could have called better game than franklin did in our two losses.

The move by Tubbs comes at an odd time, but as a fan that has watched every snap I have to agree with the call. It will be interesting to see how things change for the rest of the year.

By AU92

October 8, 2008 7:37 PM | Link to this

This is Tuberville’s fault for hiring a volatile OC in Franklin, and not letting him bring his own ppl in as position coaches.

From what I heard, Franklin never wanted to play Kodi Burns at all, the times he’s been in have been Tub’s call, and its been eating at Franklin. Some run-ins have occurred with Frankiln and Tubs’ position coaches. It finally came to a head this morning and words were exchanged and Franklin was dismissed on the spot. He’s already cleared out his office.

Tubs should resign end of season. AU needs a coach with a high Q rating (popular in ratings). That will help with higher rankings if the team is winning.

As for this season, its done. Hell, when you lose to Vandy your season’s done anyway.

only hope is we can beat Bama, and make it 7 in a row

WDE

By GWJ

October 8, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

How MANY offensive and defensive coordinator’s has Tuberville had at Auburn? See any patterns? Always tough to change in mid season. I can’t say that I feel sorry for them.

By BCS Slave

October 8, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

Tech Fan,

Firing Franklin for not being a team player would make more sense than firing because the offense wasn’t working. It is a tough blow for AU at this point in the season.

By T

October 8, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

Tuberville dodges FSU when he arrives at Auburn… fires the coordinator after 6 games… fires coordinators every year it seems… I hope Auburn never wins another game as long as Tuberville is there

By bone

October 8, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this

wow, another soap opera in alabama. hopefully this one won’t have a happy ending. RTR!

By auburn fan

October 8, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

its about time they fire tony franklin. Tommy doesnt need to go, hes a great coach and we will see wat happends without tony. Even tho Bama is a much better team this yr…..Auburn and Bamas game will be a close one. Just watch

By root4au

October 8, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

Cowetadog..Our 3-2 win over MSU wasn’t as funny as the doggies being down to bammer by 31 at home at the half. Great team u have in athens..

By Whistlebritches

October 8, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this

I’m not sure what happened behind closed doors, but the offensive was terrible. There were high school teams with better offenses. I’m an Auburn alumn and have been a fan for 25 years. I’ve never seen such bad and predictable play calling. Tubs has to get the river boat gambler attitude back and make some play calls. The players aren’t much different than last year, I hope the coaches actually take some blame. If nothing else, he needs to take the blame formaking a poor decision to hire him. Tubs will be behind now and it will kill recruiting. He will take his hits, but he should not resign even if it takes a couple years to get it back.

HEY RICK, LEARN HOW TO SPELL EXCEPT, NOT ACCEPT, AND RICHT IS A MAN OF INTEGRITY WHO CUSSES ON NATIONAL TELEVISION WHEN HIS BACK’S AGAINST THE WALL.

By Bubba1

October 8, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this

Eric1, you are the idiot who blindly follows….someone who likes not to use their brain but gives it over to his fearless leader. TT runs an above average program…is that what Auburn fans want? I think not. Saban is turning the Tide against AU and I don’t think TT can compete…if he could he would not have hired Tony Franklin to start with.

By War Eagle

October 8, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

eric1, I am with you totally, CTT is a great coach and will move on after a hiring err. pete is correct, Auburn needs a top quality QB, they have been ZERO, since Jason Campbell. Auburn will prevail, so when we come out in those ORANGE jersey dawgs, as a good Boy Scout WOULD SAY “Be Prepare”.

By John

October 8, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

War Eagle! Tuberville had to take back control from an offensive coordinator who wanted to do his thing rather than what it takes to win games. Maybe we can win do something that makes sense on offense instead of this no huddle nonsense.

By old eagle

October 8, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

Auburn should have hired Blakeney and made let TT be Pat Dye’s assistant (doing nothing).

Do you think Blakeney would have let the play clock expire while Auburn was in field goal range last week?

TT just walked up and down the sideline with his smirk on his face while the clock expired. Result? no field goal- a one point loss. Did he get paid for coaching last Saturday or was he out for a Saturday stroll?

When’s the last time Auburn ran a draw play, a screen or a reverse? The players should call the plays - they couldn’t do any worse than the so-called coaches.

By shug

October 8, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

AUBURN 3 — MISSISSIPPI STATE 2

GEORGIA TECH 38 — MISSISSIPPI STATE 7

Tommy knows what to do.

By bamafan

October 8, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

Done in by Vandy!!! If Bama lost to vandy somebody has to go. Major Applewhite had to go after that terrible month of November last year!! Auburn will get better once they start running the ball again!! ROLL TIDE!!

By M.R. Biggins

October 8, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

So what’s the problem? If the guy was offensive he should have been fired.

By Vol Change

October 8, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this

Tuberville, if Auburn wants to get rid of you Tennessee may have room here in Neyland Stadium next year. Maybe UT and Auburn can just trade head coaches.

Go Vols!!

By War Eagle

October 8, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

John, Auburn will move on to success, just a rut in the road..

By REBEL

October 8, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this

IF OLE MISS CAN BEAT THE GATORS, WE CAN SURELY BEAT ALABAMA. GO REBS!

By who cares

October 8, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

LOL

By KR

October 8, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this

Franklin never should have been hired. Since that couldn’t be undone, the next best thing is to get rid of him now. Just from the most recent game:

If, after having the run from the 4 yard line stopped three times in a row, the offensive genius had lined up and kicked a field goal, Auburn might have won against Vanderbilt.

If the offense had stayed with the run for the entire game like they did in the 1st quarter, Auburn might have had a decent showing in the rest of the game.

If in the closing minutes of the game, this offensive genius was able to get a play off without a delay of game penalty, his team might have stayed in field goal range with the chance to win.

Franklin’s mercifully short career at Auburn is littered with poor coaching decisions such as the three above.

This isn’t our greatest moment, but we will get through it.

WAR EAGLE!

By Bubba Gump

October 8, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this

Anyone who has watched Auburn football would have to agree that the play calling was absolutely terrible. Franklin brought Todd to Auburn. It looks like both of them were busts. Auburn can go back to running the ball and still win some games. It will be interesting. Tubs is not a guy who bends to alumni or adminsitration pressure. Something else was going on.

By just curious

October 8, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this

Perhaps I’m missing something or my memory is slipping, but for those who say Franklin isn’t an SEC caliber coach, is this not the same coach who was at Kentucky as OC and his offense was very near the top nationally?

By Marietta Ed

October 8, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

Hey…I’m still here…

Auburn is the greatest team in the history of college football and I know everything .

By BE#3

October 8, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

Hmmm……….The spread is done in the SEC. I bet Urban is already planning his next move cuz his gimmick was figured out by the Dawgs in Jax last year! The SEC D’s are too fast for the spread!

By For Those About To Rock

October 8, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this

The “spread” is a disillusional offense, these DC’s have figured this trash out. Look at the real contenders, none of them run this trash. RUN THE FREAKIN’ BALL, PLAY SOLID DEFENSE, PLAY GOOD SPECIAL TEAMS = success from 7 year old GFL league to the NFL. Football is a KISS system, Keep it simple, stupid!!!! Go Paul Johnson!!!!! Show these clowns what these traits will do for your program!!!!! RUN the GD ball!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By UGA fans R Dumb

October 8, 2008 10:35 PM | Link to this

Every time UGA gets beat, UGAY fans want to fire Willie.

By War Eagle Up East

October 8, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this

I was surprised with the move during the middle of the week, much less in the middle of the season, but I think it was the right move. The offense seemed to be regressing from week after week. If you listen to Tuberville’s comments, he doesn’t think it is the spread, it is the execution and the coaching. There is no continuity. A very talented offensive line looked confused, and when you listen to the rest of the offensive team, there is no commitment to the scheme. That is all coaching. To the person that suggested it may be the other assistant coaches, may I remind you that Hugh Nall and other coaches sends undersized players to the pros every year, with many of them having very successful careers. We have not fired all of those coordinators. Borges and Franklin were the only coaches fired. The others either went to head coaching jobs (Petrino) or bigger paying coordinator jobs. Although this may hurt our chances of getting a good OC this year, it least it shows the team that there is a commitment to improvement.

By Big Daddy

October 8, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

When the announcers said it was 3-2 in the bottom of the 4th, I about died.

Tommy Tuberville should be gone.

By For Those About To Rock

October 8, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this

Why in the world did they fire Borgeis(?) To me, he was a quality coach, the key to offense is to get the defense out numbered and take advantage of that. If you have a great player at TB or WR, get them 1 on 1 with the defensive player and take your chances. My athlete will beat your athlete 8 out of 10 times. Borgeis gave ya’ll that opportunity, Tuberville blew it trying to look good, screw that, do what you do best, run the GD ball!!!!!!!!

By Roswell Ed

October 8, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this

Sorry guys, spent the day getting a facial and pedicure. Anything happen today? War Damn Eagle!

By Cuz

October 8, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this

Tubby is regaining control. The experiment did not work. You Wareagles may have toasted this season, but you will be back. You still got the opportunity to throw Bama under the bus. Give it two games, you will be back in black, you could do an orange out. Anything to motivate the fans and get their collective butts out of trying to micromanage a football team. Tubby will be fine, just wait and see. Heck and I am a Dawg fan.

Is there any truth to the rumor that Franklin flew out to see Petrino then realized there was no airport and flew back home? Big City or a Hick town, don’t you know we will be coming around.

By gp

October 9, 2008 12:18 AM | Link to this

CWM wouldn’t last a week with Tubbs.

By That70sGAdawg

October 9, 2008 12:37 AM | Link to this

Good, it can be done. FIRE Special teams Coach Fabris, and Defensive Coach Marinez at UGA now, and salvage the season..

By That70sGAdawg

October 9, 2008 12:37 AM | Link to this

Good, it can be done midseason . FIRE Special teams Coach Fabris, and Defensive Coach Marinez at UGA now, and salvage the season..

By scottbravesfan

October 9, 2008 1:39 AM | Link to this

The Sun Belt is closer to high school ball than the SEC? COME ON!!!! Troy went into Athens and put up a ton of points and almost won the game. They played Georgia better than Alabama and Auburn last year. Troy has beaten a ranked Missouri and they beat a good Oklahoma State team last year. Troy could score points with anyone. They will win the Sun Belt this year and they are in a rebuilding year.

By jerry

October 9, 2008 6:26 AM | Link to this

How many times must Willie get lit up before he goes? Think how bad it would be if he did not have great players. I wonder if this “it’s ok to get a penalty as long as you don’t lose your aggressiveness” was a break in philosophy between Willie and Richt.

By Foghorn Leghorn

October 9, 2008 6:42 AM | Link to this

I say it kinda reminds me of an ol’ gal I know whose been married (and divorced) five times. I told her, as I had a sarcasm, I guess it’s always the guys fault….

By Duluth Gator

October 9, 2008 6:43 AM | Link to this

I wish we were playing them this year, maybe we could finally beat those guys.

By buck

October 9, 2008 6:59 AM | Link to this

Maybe Auburn can hire Richt.

By elliott bachelor

October 9, 2008 7:19 AM | Link to this

thats smacks of stupidity and panic on the part of Auburns staff… nobody should be gone after 6 games unless of course its Bobby Petrino..

By katherine

October 9, 2008 7:43 AM | Link to this

You naysayers are crazy. Look at Tuberville’s performance over the years he’s been at Auburn. He’s a great coach….fires people when they’re not producing, doesn’t hesitate and hold onto people for YEARS. He operates/manages the way a manager in a well run company would. You fire people that don’t produce and since football season is short, sometimes you have to do it IN SEASON. He recruits well (look at AU’s players that have gone professional) and has 6 consecutive wins against Bama. The ONLY coach that has done that at Auburn. And he had a perfect season in 2004. I just don’t think there are many better coaches out there.

By WAR EAGLE

October 9, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this

Auburn could run the spread offense beautifully in practice. The problem was we couldnt execute durng the game. Everybody is jumping on the fire Tuberville bandwagon,but Tuberville always shows up for the big games and heres the money stat Tuberville has WON 6 IRON BOWLS IN A ROW. If TT finishes the season with 4 or 5 losses(VERY PROBABLE) i think we could see a go at the firng of Tuberville. He can get all the players and play all the games he just cant make it to the big show. (BCS GAME)

By dexter manley

October 9, 2008 7:51 AM | Link to this

At what point does TT’s judgement get called into question? Didn’t he hire all these “terrible” coaches.

By reality

October 9, 2008 7:52 AM | Link to this

How about this —Auburn just isn’t very good this season. What is the big deal? Is it a rite of passage that Auburn is supposed to field a good football team every season? No. Auburn is not a good football team —period.

By Tracey

October 9, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this

BOBBY LOWDER

Lowder has long been regarded as one of the nation’s most powerful college boosters and power-behind-the-scenes trustees at Auburn. In 2003, when then-University President William Walker Jr. and athletic director David Housel secretly spoke with University of Louisville football coach Bobby Petrino about taking over Auburn University football coach Tommy Tuberville’s job, it was Lowder’s private jet which they flew to Louisville.

IF any of you care to listen, this is the man who got the OC fired, or FEAR of the power of this man by Tuberville.

He TOTALLY and completely has his hand in every aspect of Auburn University and has been listed as a major problem by SACS which accredites colleges and universities. Their recommendations were to limit the power of this man.

This man is the culprit!

By Richard

October 9, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this

Hire Richt. Now that is funny. The man is losing institutional control of his team and can’t win the big game. Folks down on TT is pure jealousy and lack of knowledge. If the Dawgs were in the same boat, their fair weather fans would be screaming bloody murder. I am gald you Georgia turtles have finally puled your head out of your A$$ after that big A$$ whooping Alabama put on you. Florida will probably beat you up as well but you guys should be used to it by now.

By Richard

October 9, 2008 7:59 AM | Link to this

Hire Richt. Now that is funny. The man is losing institutional control of his team and can’t win the big game. Folks down on TT is pure jealousy and lack of knowledge. If the Dawgs were in the same boat, their fair weather fans would be screaming bloody murder. I am surprised you Georgia turtles have finally pulled your head out of your A$$ after that big A$$ whooping Alabama put on you. Florida will probably beat you up as well but you guys should be used to it by now.

By SGT CHRIS

October 9, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this

PENN ST RUNS THE SPREAD WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT, AND THEY SHOULD RUN THEIR TABLE IN THE LITTLE 10 CONFERENCE

By UgaMatt

October 9, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Richt’s not going anywhere until he wants to. “Can’t win the big game?” UGA was #2 in the country last year!!! I realize that’s a long time ago in today’s world, but it’s still pretty good. The biggest issue at Auburn, always, is Bobby Lowder. If you don’t think the decision to hire and fire Franklin was his call, then you’re delusional.

By buster

October 9, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

After reading a few comments, you blog heads should know that Georgia fans look down on everyone — every team. Ego maniacs.

By Dawg Fud

October 9, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

I never understood why Auburn wanted to institute the spread - it is simply not them.

Auburn is I-formation, smash-mouth football (and they have the RB personnel to play that way). I felt like they were trying to be somebedy they were not. It was really weird to watch them implement this offense.

Regardless, i would have at least given Franklin a few seasons. If you are truly committed to this offense, then you have to give it time to develop.

GO DAWGS!

By canton dawg

October 10, 2008 12:22 AM | Link to this

T Franklin knows more about offense than TT could handle. If he had allowed Tony to do the job he hired him for and let him have personnel that knew the system, Auburn’s record would have been different. Tony was the one person who knew the system and really believed in it. This made his job impossible. Appears the other coaches were too insecure of their own abilities to try to make the system work. Too bad for Auburn. Tony is a class act. cw

By True cane

October 11, 2008 12:05 AM | Link to this

Please take NIX, hire him please. I can’t wait to get rid of him, Nix has not shown anything