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By mike

July 20, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

We’re done

By DoesItMatter

July 20, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this

Braves = Done

By DHD

July 20, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

Yep, they are done. So, let’s make some deals and get ready for ‘09. We will lose lots of salaries next year. We have young pitching. There’s hope for the future, but not this year.

By Karwilk

July 20, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

Better start shopping Teixeira

By Theo

July 20, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

No, those hoping for a rebound were whistling in the dark.

Time to open the flea market.

First two out the door should be Boobey Cox and “No HIt” Pendelton.

By SteelCav

July 20, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

Stick a fork in ‘em. Ship out Ohman and Tex for prospects and lets start the rebuilding process now. A quick fix will not help this team this year, or the next.

By William

July 20, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

I hate to say this but it’s over. The Braves need to trade Tex if an above-average offer is made to add to their core of youngsters. This will also give the Braves payroll flexibility.

By ben

July 20, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

ahh no. They won’t make a comeback and they will lose more games in the second half than the first.

By Nothappnin

July 20, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

No pitching + not enough offense…there isn’t a chance. Throw in a few multi-error games from the defense and you have a recipe for disaster. Time for the fire sale.

By Bravos

July 20, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Trade Tex, bring up Shafer, let Chipper rest, build for next year

By mike

July 20, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Unless the Braves go 5-1 or 6-0 in the next 5 games the Braves season is over.

By mike

July 20, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Unless the Braves go 5-1 or 6-0 in the next 6 games the Braves season is over.

By mike

July 20, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Unless the Braves go 5-1 or 6-0 in the next 6 games the Braves season is over.

By A realist

July 20, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

Eveery year when the Braves were managing to win over a weak division….for about 14 years….local fans were unaware that the other teams had the same kind of problems the Braves have now. At least no one cared much that other teams had injuries to key players, lost close games, etc.

In every sport, in every league, one team or two will put it all together, have lots of good luck, stay healthy and win the championship.

Now Atlanta fans are being reminded that it takes a lot of things to win. Remember the Braves of the 1970’s and 1980’s.

this ain’t 1998….it is 2008. We do not have Smoltz, Maddux, and Glavine. We have Jo-Jo, Jair, and whoever comes up next from Richmond.

By ben

July 20, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

I think this team is done for the year. The Braves just don’t have the talent to sustain a winning streak. Embarrassed at home by the team in last place in the division with the Marlins coming up on the road. Are we looking at a good triple AAA team if you take away Tex, Chipper and McCain? Time to start preparing for the new season in 2009.

By The Ghost of John Holmes

July 20, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

Look at the facts, folks:

The Braves have been a .500 team since the start of the 2006 season.

As far as I’m concerned, two-and-a-half seasons of mediocre play is ample time to conclude that this is a mediocre ballclub.

Sure, the Braves can say, “But if such-and-such happens, we can still make the playoffs”.

The thing is, two-thirds of the teams in the major leagues can say the same thing.

As far as the looming trade deadline is concerned: in hindsight, the Tex trade was a mistake. Hopefully, the Braves won’t compound the mistake by failing to get anything for Tex, who is a sure bet to leave at the end of the season.

The Braves should cast their eyes toward 2009 (and beyond) and trade Tex for the best package of players they can get, whether it’s a group of minor league prospects or guys who are already in the majors.

By bobby

July 20, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

The biggest mistake BC made today was letting the team take the field.

By J

July 20, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

Don Finoto I would love to keep Tex but looks like it can’t happen so lets trade him outside the division of course. I hear the Red Sox have a deep farm system and I don’t know if the D-rays are have interest but they have some good young tallent as well. With Hampton’s Salary coming off the books next year also maybe we can get a big time free agent and stay healthy and be competitive. What a waste of a great season by our future HOFamer CHIPPER J

By J

July 20, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Don Finoto I would love to keep Tex but looks like it can’t happen so lets trade him outside the division of course. I hear the Red Sox have a deep farm system and I don’t know if the D-rays are have interest but they have some good young tallent as well. With Hampton’s Salary coming off the books next year also maybe we can get a big time free agent and stay healthy and be competitive. What a waste of a great season by our future HOFamer CHIPPER J

By Braves never win on the road

July 20, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Its been over for weeks ,im sick of the braves

By CONNECTICUT BRAVES FAN

July 20, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

They have been finished for quite some time. It is time for a new manager, new coaches and a whole lot of new players. Trade any player except JaJurrens, Morton, & McCann. Tex, Hudson, & even Chipper would yield a large bounty of young talent. So do it and begin to build for the future. Fire Cox as soon as possible or risk losing your fan base. Hire John Farrell. pitching coach of the Boston Red Sox who will someday make a great manager.

By Braves never win on the road

July 20, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

Jo-Jo is just like Chuck Jamess ,no damn good !

By Billy

July 20, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

Might as well trade Tex, he probably won’t re-sign anyway.

By Chris

July 20, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

Sadly yes.

You can’t lose a series to the “worse” team in baseball and expect to take on the Fish, Mets or Phillies.

The gamble on the older arms of Smoltz, Glavine, Hampton, etc. just didn’t pan out in ‘08.

I think it’s time to trade a few players and start the full-scale re-building and start the retirement party for Bobby a little early.

By gotigers72

July 20, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

Turn out the lights, the party’s over, the Fat Lady sings,etc.

Time to start NOW working on next year to try and make sure this crap doesn’t happen again. Can’t continue to have putrid benches every year. Keep Infante and clean the rest of those has beens from the pine. If Corky Miller is on the roster next year, you know they’ve already given up. The bench was terrible last year, as bad or worse this year. The bench is a VERY important part of a team, yet Mr. Wren has chosen not to address improving that part of the team. Just keeps players like Corky, Norton and Gotay, none of whom are hitting over .220.

Also time to start trying to get some better bullpen pitchers, an outfield bat, and a starter if possible. Keep Will Ohman. I have read where they may think of trading him if they become sellers, but he has been by far the most consistent reliever, and I read where he said he WANTS to remain a Brave. I don’t think Teixeira feels that way. I think he wants to play for whoever wants to give him the most money. But if you have a GOOD player like Ohman that wants to stay, by all means try to accomodate him. I know Tex is a great player, but he doesn’t necessarily want to be here. If he did he would have already told Boras and a deal would have been worked out. You’ve never seen Chipper use leverage to try and get more money. In fact, he has worked out deals to HELP the Braves get players to help the TEAM become better.

These are just my opinions.

By IGivUp

July 20, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

Of all of the low points over the last three years, this is the lowest. We have been getting steadily worse and I do not see any reason for hope. We need to get rid of any relics of the past like Mike Hampton and look at the Marlin modle for rebuilding. Getting Tex was a good idea but we cannot afford him. They need to get as many pitching prospects for him and develop them. Change of coaching staff is another idea. It looks like the team is no longer responding to the current regime.

By Frank

July 20, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

Gid rid of Reyes and Chuck James for sure. I’m so sick of Reyes…..I can’t see straight. GET RID OF THE PITCHING DEAD WEIGHT ON THIS TEAM.

As I said in a earlier blog….the Braves would be VERY dumb not to try to resign Tex. At the very least, at least try to re-sign him…..if it don’t work…well, then…bye, bye Tex but at least try.

By jimcpa

July 20, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

They were lucky they didn’t get swept..one more timely hit by the nats in the 9th on Friday and that would have happened. 3-3 against the two worst teams in baseball back to back with the top of our rotation …twice..hampton has now teaked his p—— so he won’t be back…trade Tex and Franc the Tank (as he likes to call himself when hes hitting) and get back Harris and proven pitching

By vick

July 20, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

We need a new Hitting Coach. Our Hitting coach was a terrible hitter how did he become a coach? you should look at his MVP Season… somethign like 292 batting average and 20 homeruns.. You would be batting at the bottom of the order with something like that now..

By Braves never win on the road

July 20, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

Can someone tell me why Cokey Miller is on this team ?Whats he hitting now .099 ?

By WhereisHarryCarry'sHONESTY?

July 20, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

I was at the game sat nite and sunday… i will NOT go back this year…pathetic! Where is the hustle???? Are they not paying these guys enough?? LOL!!!

By Braves never win on the road

July 20, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

I was Tex i wouldnt want to sign with a bounch of misfits eather

By Braves never win on the road

July 20, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

Where’s Harry, Mike Hampton is getting his money sitting on his azz robbin the Braves like a bandit lol

By dack jerrick

July 20, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

Turn out the lights,the party’s over.This is a bad team. Truly the worst team the Braves have fielded since the 1990 season. Bringing Franceour back from Double A ball was a sad mistake for him and for the big-league club. The whole outfit shows no heart, no fire, no cojounes with the exception of Escobar and McCann. Keep those two and Chipper, sign Teixeira, then start dealin’ like crazy

By Dave

July 20, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

It’s a waste of time and money if they don’t get rid of Cox!

By BaseballisBoring

July 20, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

they keep trading their good young players for old broken down BoyScouts. And now its biting them in the butt. How long can they expect to use the same formula?

By gayle

July 20, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

Done? The Braves have been done for a long time. They have been done since the 8th inning on October 23, 1996.

All you Braves fans know the date - Wohlers to Leyritz. A three-run homer to tie the game and eventually to lose in the 10th.

Since that game, the Braves have not won a World Series game (0-7). Since then, they are 5-9 in post season series. They have not made it out of the LDS since 2001.

How the management of this team has not only held their jobs, but maitain the support of the ownership is really a slap in the face to all the fans.

Today, the Braves were embarrased by a team that has won only 4 of their last 14 games and 2 of those wins were over the Braves. And remember hearing how this was a “must-win” series?

As long as the fans and the local press coddle this team and expect so little, there will not be any changes. In most other cities, Cox would have been booted out years ago.

Every day that this organization, the press and the fans perpetuate this myth of one more post season run is one less day this team can break down and retool and become a team that not only can make it into the playoffs, but can win once they get there.

By hop

July 20, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

earth to wren, it is high time you stop making excuses and start the fire sale!

chipper,tex,frenchy,glavine,smotzie,and hampton need to go as starters.

this time is below average and has been for the last two years.

the braves brass need to get their head of their rearend, and start the process of building this team from the ground up!

By Raleigh Dog

July 20, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

Been over for a couple of years now. They stink. It’s amazing that anyone would think they can do what they haven’t done in three years or more. They are just awful. An embarassment. Now I wonder what the fans who left all those seats empty during the playoffs are thinking. But they won’t have to worry cause it will be a long long time and a whole new generation of players before playoff baseball comes back to Atlanta. Ted Turner delivered on his promise and brought us great baseball, at least during the regular season. Worst thing of all is how poor a playoff manager Cox was. Should have won three or four World Series. It’s over and back to the future. The horrible 70s and 80s. At least the Braves may get a shot at worst to first again.

By 18 Wheels of Love

July 20, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

If you have the question (Are the Braves out of it?) then the answer must be a given….

Funny thing, the Braves were never in it. Sure we may have been 2 games out but we have never been a threat to much of anything other than futility.

By Tomy Fournier

July 20, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

OKKKK…MR FANS…WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING NOW AND CRYING…IS THE SAME THAT I TOLD YOU FROM THE BEGINNING…ATLANTA IS OUUUUUUT,FROM THE BIGINIGN…THEY DO NOT HAVE NOTHING TO COMPETE…JUST A BUNTCH OF OLD TRASH….A NURSING HOME….POINT…OKKKKKK?????

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

This is very easy to break down.1. we need owners who want to spend money on the team— 2. Get rid of Bobby Cox. He was good back in the day but he’s outdated now. Time for a breath of fresh air.3. Gid rid of putzes like Corky Miller and that Norton guy, they’re awful!

By bill

July 20, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

The Bravos are cooked! Be smart and trade Tex for what young prospects you can get! Play the market up until the final bell if you need to, but get seomething in return for him… What happened to Schafer…. roids?

By elainer7

July 20, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

They were done before they got started. Stick a fork in them.

By Breal

July 20, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this

It is time to trade Tex for sure. I am with the others who think that Tampa Bay or the Red Soxs would be a great fit to get some young talent in return. I am sorry to say that I also agree it is time for Bobby Cox and Terry “Hitless Wonder” Pendelton to go. Let’s clean this up during the second half of this season make some good moves in the off season getting a free agent or two. I would like to compete for the playoffs before 2011.

By Dave

July 20, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

The team has no energy or desire and this starts at the top, with Bobby Cox. We have consistently been poor at coming back from behind late in the game, hitting with 2 outs and runners in scoring position, etc. If they hadn’t traded for Tex last year, Andruw would have continued to bat cleanup even though he was losing more games than winning with defense. Cox is way past his time to retire, and without getting a new manager and hitting coach, it’s a waste of money to trade for new players. I don’t think Tex would resign even if Braves would offer his bucks..he wants to go were they have a chance at World Series,like Drew did

By Ben

July 20, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

Just like the City of Atlanta needs to let the civil rights era go the Braves need to stop living on their one and only World Series win of 95,new management for both, it’s time to move on.

By Dawg88

July 20, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

The Death Knell Was Sounded Today.

Trade Texeria but not Ohman.

New manager needed for next year. The game has passed BC by. Pendleton should not and never should be again a hitting instructor. His hiring was a mistake.

McDowell has done well with limited talent and injuries. He should stay. Hubbard should be retained as well as Snitker. In other words, other than those 3…we need new blood.

If Frank Wren was looking for a sign as to what to do before the deadline, the Braves sent the message loud and clear today….with a huge thud.

Never thought that I would say this…but the Braves don’t know how to win. They look lost and as if the towel has been tossed in. Sad.

Start over in 2009. 2008 has fizzled out and faded to black! Goodbye Tex. Good luck in the playoffs.

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

Notice that the Braves haven’t played good since present ownership took over? They are the ATLANTA Braves. Get some local ownership in here who cares about the team and wants to make them the best. I dislike the status of the way things are now, I knew this would happen when the Braves were sold to these bozos!!! Tax write-offs..thats how the present owners see the Braves.

By Joe

July 20, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

For the first time in my adult life I have to say I’m ashamed of being a Braves fan… There is no excuse for this team being this pathetic. Not with the talent level. Cox needs to go for one. There’s no excuse in putting out there that kind of pathetic lineup. Corky Miller is not a Major League baseball player and wouldn’t be on any other roster but of course. The Braves.. . There has to be a better catcher somewhere in the system. I figured it was about time the wheel ran off the decent stating pitching that the Braves have been getting lucky with. Reyes has a long way to go and so does Morton. get ready for a good bombing from his next start. After this debacle today I will make much better use of my time than to watch these pathetic losers!!!!

By Jim Craig

July 20, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this

Braves offense is offensive; I wonder how successful they would be if the opposing pitcher delivered the ball in Slow-Pitch fashion. My guess is, they still would not be able to hit. Can you agree that BOTH “Hitting Coach” AND “Pitching Coach” are two very necessary remedies to a team in a rapid downspiral?

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

Don’t get me wrong, I still love the Braves, but, I’m going to have to temporarlily divorce myself from watching them so I don’t have a stroke at the tender age of 34.

By NEW GM

July 20, 2008 7:16 PM | Link to this

Braves need to have a plan to build the best team in the world. The object if I were GM would be to have the best 8 position players in MLB, best 12 pitchers, power pitchers, and the best 5 bench players. Determine if we the Braves have any of these best 25 and keep them, and work ourselves into the ground until we accomplish this mission. If our young troops can fight a war, be injured, or die for their country why can’t we simply get 25 baseball players with talent, heart, and team ethic. Come on it just can’t be that tough. The Hawks don’t need but 5 players, what’s the problem. Hire managers and coaches that can beat yourn and take yourn and beat hisen. Mr. Schuerholz and Mr. Wren and the money people please get this done now! My Lord Jesus is coming soon and I want to go out a winner.

By southbeachdietfreak

July 20, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

People laughed at the Marlins over their Fire sales. Somehow they just keep winning ball games. No Dontrelle Willis either! Why do we just hold on to people instead of trying to make this team better?

By Drew

July 20, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

that was some asinine baseball

this is getting tough to read about\

the pirates have more killer instinct than the braves

By Sitting Bull O'Brien

July 20, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

He starts one blog that is titled “Must win game”“”So they lost the game they “must win”. Does that not mean they are done? I’ve heard of speaking with a forked tongue but o’Brien brings it to new levels.

By Chicken Little was right!

July 20, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

Unless Bobby Cox is GONE, the Braves are DONE. It’s so pitiful listening to him talking about how good this and that was when the ONLY thing that matters is the final score.

Just think how bad thing would be without Tex, and Frenchy, shave that face and take Delta back to AA ball.

By BOBCEE

July 20, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

When you have excessive bleeding you need to fix the wound. Time to apply the tourniquet and stop the bleeding. Tell hampton to supersize his injuries and get a new job. Glavine and Smoltz were great in the past but they must both realize their time is up. Say good bye to Frenchy, Diaz, Norton, Corky, Royce, Tex, and maybe even Chipper. Also don’t count on Soriano he is a disaster waiting to happen. In summary time to clean house

By Michael

July 20, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

FIRE BOBBY COX!!!!

By Mike Hampton's vajayjay

July 20, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this

Boy, I’m sure glad I didn’t leave Myrtle Beach for this.

By Steve from Marietta

July 20, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

The Braves had to sweep the Nationals. Instead they got pounded by a punchless team!! Early in the year they were UNBEATABLE at home. Now they are just plain beatable. Injuries have killed the season: Kotsay, Diaz, Escobar, Chipper, Glavine, Smoltz, Hampton, Soriano, etc, etc. Francouer has showed he is a pedestrian player. This team wasn’t supposed to be as good as the Mets or Phillies. Atlanta expected more from them because of (sorry whiners) Bobby Cox. You can only manage around injuries so far when some veterans don’t pick up the slack. Bottom line-its time to deal Texiera and others. I think the real question is, besides Chipper,McCann, and Escobar, who on the current roster is untouchable??

By ofcblackmon

July 20, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this

the braves are done,lets clean house and start over.lets go back to pitching and defense. we have two good starters in hudson and j.j. the bullpen is pretty good with gonzalez out there. we can trade tex for a proven pitcher and some prospects. ohman can get us a couple of prospects. but lets get some bench players. but most of all lets get a manager who will light a fire under the players when they need it. bobby was a good manager but the time has come for some new life to come in and take these players and whip them into playing hard. i think frenchy can be saved if has someone to work on his hitting. the infield is workable if we can find a 1st baseman. remember pitching and defense was always preached and that is what helped us win along with the players had the heart to win.

By Goaltender

July 20, 2008 7:32 PM | Link to this

The Brave elevator keeps finding new lows.An addition or two a few weeks back could have turned things around and we wouldn’t have hit this point. You-who Mr. Wren wakey wakey -we had a sub .100 catcher playing in a so called “must game” today.

By Max

July 20, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

i am sorry to say that the braves are done. with the injuries to smoltz, glavine, hampton, and diaz have been too much. Chipper, McCann, abd Jurrjens have been the only bright spots this season. Texeira has not lived up to his potential. The red sox have been wanting Tex so trade him to the sox to get some good pitching and hitting prospects that are ready to play immediatelly i just dont understand y they are so bad with all the talent they have

By Matt

July 20, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

Can we please find a backup catcher that can hit?? I’ve gotten to where I won’t watch games that McCann isn’t playing in. The team just seems to have given up and maybe it is finally time for Bobby to call it quits, bring in some fresh blood, and let the prospects duke it out for playing time.

By Mel

July 20, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

Bring back the retro 70s uniforms, cuz these guys are playing the same way. A last place team playing out the rest of the season.

By ryan

July 20, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this

trade hudson we could alot for him and fire cox.When cox resigned for next year he said he still enjoyes the game Idont enjoy watching him managing anymore like bunting in the first inning again at least we got a run today he must of thought it was going to be close.can Prado play im sick of kj.Get rid of buddy gotay norton corky taveras kotsay jojo will never be a solid stater.

By The Truth

July 20, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

Like a great coach said to my team when we were beating another team pretty bad in football….”It’s over baby, stick a fork in em’ cause they done”

By john

July 20, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

Tex hasnt lived up to his potential ? Well, maybe not but he is still having a solid year. He’s on pace to hit 30 hr and drive in 120 rbi’s and he’s played good defense at 1st. I think the Braves should trade him because there is no way they will pay him 20+ mill a year after this season. I would also like to see the Braves trade Frenchy. He has been a huge disappointment.

By TampaGator

July 20, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

Done!!! Too bad Bobby didn’t decide to retire after this year. This teams needs some new blood from the manager down, I am afraid. And, how many more WS titles do you think the Braves would have won if Tony LaRussa had been managing this team for the last 16 years or so. Probably 3 to 5 more at least. Bobby = 1 (and he was lucky to win that one). Time to retire, Bobby, please!

By You got to be kidding me

July 20, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this

The braves have been done for months! When will somebody in management get it? Every series the AJC posts will the braves win this one? and every series they dont! Here is the bottom line people… to be a contender you HAVE TO WIN GAMES!!!!!!! You cannot hope for other teams to lose to put you in position! And the next time that idiot of a manager, Bobby Cox gets thrown out of a game make sure they throw him out of the damn stadium and onto 285!

By randy

July 20, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

I say lets trade most of our good players. That includes Chipper, Tex, Hudson. We could get a ton of good young talent in return. Sure, we may only win 20 games each year the next 2 or 3 years but 4 years from now we will be great.

By bravo

July 20, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

With the inept Terry McGuirk anywhere near the decision making process for this team, you can call it a season. This guy is PITIFUL and Braves fans have no clue. He is the architect of this disaster. He is Liberty’s “boy” and is not accountable on anyone’s radar! WHAT DOES THIS PATHETIC “man” DO? He MUST go before ANY hope of former glory to the Braves can be reached. FIRE McGUIRK! He is the script writer of this ownership deal and continuing debacle! What does he do to even earn a paycheck?

By Kevin

July 20, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

After today excuse of a Team Bobby cox has lost it n Wren its time to fire TP n Bobby cox which u should had done at break…But u did not n u see they not want win anymore under baby u players cox…He should just go home beat his wife again….Cause he should be Fired!

By You got to be kidding me

July 20, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this

“Bad ballgame,” Cox added. “We can do better than that, for sure.” Well… When the F**K are you planning to start? November?

By fred

July 20, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this

toast…unless the 10 in row starts now. Losing 2 of 3 to pathetic Nationals is pathetic….

By Atlantarama

July 20, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

Anyone who says “fire Bobby Cox” is an idiot. Do you really think any replacement the Braves would come up with would be as effective?

Injuries did the team in, not the manager.

By duh

July 20, 2008 8:10 PM | Link to this

pls trade Chipper as well. You could get a haul for him and he is 35 for God’s sake, injury prone … DO NOT make him the cornertsone for your future. Trade him while you can get something. If you are 35 or older or higher than 5 mill per year you should be one of teh players to go…..clean out the place

By You got to be kidding me

July 20, 2008 8:10 PM | Link to this

FIRE BOBBY COX NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By duh

July 20, 2008 8:10 PM | Link to this

pls trade Chipper as well. You could get a haul for him and he is 35 for God’s sake, injury prone … DO NOT make him the cornerstone for your future. Trade him while you can get something. If you are 35 or older or higher than 5 mill per year you should be one of the players to go…..clean out the place…now

By Tom Beasley

July 20, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

According to that great sports writer, Terence Moore, we should keep Tex for if we don’t, we have given up. I hope that ignorant buffoon saw today’s game. It is time to move Tex for some major league players, not draft choices. This season is done, finished, toast, and has been for quite some time. Makes you wonder what Terence has been smoking or if he is just that ignorant in the world of sports.

By Fire Boo-by now

July 20, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this

Gayle’s comments are right own. Too bad she isnt covering the Braves for the AJC instead of all the homers who worship at the altar of Cox and Pendleton.

By dICK

July 20, 2008 8:20 PM | Link to this

Today was prime example Cox is finished. Whe your starting pitcher goes to afull count om 50% of the batters he faces in first two innings, a mediocere coach would know the pitcher didn’t have it. Hitting coach is a joke, When your pitchers can’t lay down a bunt as they havne’t been able to do this season, it is a reflection on coach. Francour needs to go back to AA and come back when he has worked thru his problems, not when he cries and moans and groans. Teacm doesn’t want to win when back up catcher is hitting lower average than some of pitchers. They are finished, it is time to clear the bench. I would play Chipper at first, move starting shortstop to third, trade Tex. Infield then is set, Jones on first, Johnson at second, rookie at short and Escabor at third. This leaves week spto in Center and Right.

By outgoing37

July 20, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

Ive been a Braves fan since 1980.I have seen some awful seasons.But this Braves team is pretty embarrassing.Mainly cause they have a lineup and a team that in my opinion is better than the Mets and Phillies.But for some reason cant get up for bigtime series and must wins.They should give us money to watch them play.They should be paying us.I dont wanna hear there we need to do this.If you cant beat the Phillies..Nationals.Then you dont deserve the Playoffs.I still root for you.But i think its comming on 3 str8t non playoffs seasons.Can the Hawks record be next?? EMBARRASSING..PERIOD..THERE DONE.

By bravesfan

July 20, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

Pendleton must go

Trade Tex now.

By cww

July 20, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

The Braves do need new manager and hitting coach. They also need to stop trading for and/or signing has been broken down players just because they can get them cheap and hope they can make a comeback.It doesn’t seem like most of the players we have really care anymore. Maybe they should clean house.

By cww

July 20, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

The Braves do need new manager and hitting coach. They also need to stop trading for and/or signing has been broken down players just because they can get them cheap and hope they can make a comeback.It doesn’t seem like most of the players we have really care anymore. Maybe they should clean house.

By EMS

July 20, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

Keep McCann, Hudson, Jurjens and Escobar and get rid of the others

By sheila

July 20, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

As long as there are players on our team like Miller 103 batting average and Prado and Nelson start in place of our regular players we are done.

Why Bobby is always using the utility players when the starters sit on the bench is beyond me. Its ok to use one for rest, but Cox emplodes the whole lineup with utility players when the games are must win games. Makes no sense to me.

I say we start getting a lineup that can hit and does not get rattled. Johnson and Tex need to be replaced. Chipper needs to retire and become the new hitting coach. Build the team around McCann, Francoeur and Essobar.

By Dean

July 20, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this

Braves were done when Kelly dropped the ball against Philly in early June. Since then the Braves have gone 14-23. They had been 3 games over .500 at that point.

That loss was the worst loss I have ever seen, and I’m convinced that it got to the Braves.

It’s too bad. I thought they were going to make it to the playoffs this year.

Can’t wait for college football.

By SRF

July 20, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

I do not have all the answers, but it seems to me when you get beaten like a ragdoll by the last place team in your own stadium, it is a clear sign of trouble.

I say rest Chipper and McCann who have nagging injuries.

Get rid of Corky right now.

Bring up lots of prospects and try and find a young and hungry bunch,

By coach k

July 20, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this

keep the team get rid of Bobby and Pendleton, corky miller, hampton,. With those salaries gone sign tex and insist on playing small ball, hit and run and get some freaking passion. This is the same lame team since the 96 when will anyone realize the pitching staff bailed mgmt out all those years, should have had 4 world champ. By Bobbie time to head to the farm, yours

By Edward

July 20, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this

Get rid of frenchy is sucks

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this

Anybody who says KEEP Bobby Cox is an idiot. Look at the Mets. They fired Randolph and look at them now, just coming off a 10 game winning streak. In any other town Cox would have been gone. Why is upper management so sentimental about Cox??? And why in the hell did we get rid of Brayan Pena in favor of the awful Corky Miller??? They Braves are done for the year and quite possibly for a long time until some attitudes change in the organization.

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

Anybody who says KEEP Bobby Cox is an idiot. Look at the Mets. They fired Randolph and look at them now, just coming off a 10 game winning streak. In any other town Cox would have been gone. Why is upper management so sentimental about Cox??? And why in the hell did we get rid of Brayan Pena in favor of the awful Corky Miller??? They Braves are done for the year and quite possibly for a long time unless some attitudes change in the organization.

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

Anybody who says KEEP Bobby Cox is an idiot. Look at the Mets. They fired Randolph and look at them now, just coming off a 10 game winning streak. In any other town Cox would have been gone. Why is upper management so sentimental about Cox??? And why in the hell did we get rid of Brayan Pena in favor of the awful Corky Miller??? They Braves are done for the year and quite possibly for a long time unless some attitudes change in the organization.

By Charlie

July 20, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

When you are 5-22 in one run games and have a losing record to one of the worse teams in the NL, you know its time to make changes. I would start with Cox. He is probably leaving after next year anyway so why wait. Lets get someone in here that will kick some butt and fire these guys up. I am so sick of their lethargic play. They make every team they play look like world beaters. Embarrassing!

By Dawg hatin' Jacket

July 20, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

It’s over. Been over for weeks. Started with the Kelly Johnson blooper and gone downhill from there.

Time to start the rebuilding, which needs to begin with Bobby Cox. His time has come and gone, we need fresh blood. Trade Tex and build for the future.

Bring on football.

By Pete

July 20, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

Bobby needs to go. Having Corky Miller on this roster is one of the dumbest moves ever. The guy is hitting under .100 and calls a terrible game. Today Jo Jo was hanging every curveball yet Corky continued to call for it.

By goingtobrough

July 20, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

From a coaching standpoint, you can’t make chicken salad out of chicken sh..With all of the injuries what else do you expect Cox to do. I was at saturdays game and it made me sick to watch the mistakes. Pitching and defense wins games and we have no pitching and when we get some we can’t score other than Chipper, McCann, or Tex. Why do you leave Carlise in today when he’s getting no one out? His confidence is shot now. Use Hampton’s, Glavine’s, and Smoltz’s salaries to get two young pitchers and hope to find another to go along with Hudson and J.J. I appreciate what Smoltz and Glavine have done but they must do what’s best for the team. Hampton’s body just will not hold up and we need to move on. It will not be a quick fix but we only got good when we were spending money, making good deals, and had a strong farm system. Sad to see the former braves farm guys doing us in this past weekend.

By Dick

July 20, 2008 9:06 PM | Link to this

Any of you dudes queer? Wanna be?

By Sherman

July 20, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

They’re done as fried chicken!

By Chris

July 20, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

15-6

In a word…they SUCK

Yeah, it’s kinda blunt, New York style but honest.

Time to trade/sell those of value for fresh young talent for ‘09+

Bye Tex, we thought you would carry the team but it looks like you’re just another hired gun for someone else.

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

It’s obvious the team doesn’t care. How can a team let a sucky team like the Nats come in and totally spank them??? They don’ care. Cox doesn’t care…he puts Corky Miller in and stinks up the place.

By alex

July 20, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this

It can’t hurt to shop Tex and see what we can get. If it’s good, then trade him. if not, then don’t. I assume this is already being contemplated. Because it’s not like the Braves even remotely look like a play-off team, as much as I’d love to think they are. Good ownership is impartial ownership. Be realistic: Does your team look like it’s capable of making a prolonged run of great baseball? For our Braves, the answer is certainly no. Shop Tex. It can’t hurt.

By Connie

July 20, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

There is NO passion nor chemistry with this team. I don’t know which team is a bigger joke…….2007 Falcons or 2008 Braves! Sheesh!

By so what

July 20, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

So what if we win the division this year. Our problems will be with us next year and the years too come. The Marlins and their TWO World Series titles should teach us that change is necessary. Bring on the changes, good-bye Tex, etc..

By Pete

July 20, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this

I expect Cox to have a backup catcher that can hit over .100. I expect Cox to handle the pitching staff better. I expect Cox to have a better outfield instead of Blanco, hitting .260 with 1 HR and 19 RBI. Kotsay hitting .270 and Jeff hitting .230. Weather you think so or not Cox has a lot of pull deciding the roster. I would much rather have Josh Anderson that Blanco. Blanco is not and never will be even an avg. MLBP. We have NO POWER When you have an outfield that has a total of about 20HR you cannot have a SS and 2nd baseman that have 15 or 16 total. All of these moves are made with the blessing of Cox. Cox won all those division titles with 3 HOF pitchers and usually the highest paid NL team.

By R1U

July 20, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this

QUITTERS all of you!!! Colorado could have mailed it in last year —- Houston could have done it also a few years back!!! The Yankees of 77 with Bucky Dent overcame more in a tough Division It ain’t over til it’s over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Stew

July 20, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

I said it 10 years ago, Fire Cox. Any manager who puts a slowball pitcher (Greg McMichael) in a crucial part of a world series game dosn’t deserve to manage.

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

Can’t wait for football. At least the Falcons might be promising this year. They act like they give a fig about their future. For example, the Birds got rid of MeAngelo, Crumpler, Dunn, and the Corky Miller of football—Byron Leftwich. The Birds have promise…the Braves have no passion to compete.

By vic

July 20, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this

It all ended on Friday, June 06 when Kelly Johnson dropped that popup against the phillies..

By tj

July 20, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this

Some of you people show how little you know about baseball and how hard it is, and how much money it takes, to put together a team full of all stars. We got one on here that would build a team with the best 25 players in baseball. Half the bloggers on here saying trade Chipper. If you knew anything at all you would know Chipper CANNOT be traded unless Chipper WANTS to be traded. He has taken less money to stay here more than once, and he says he does not want to play anywhere else. Until he changes his mind he will be here until he retires. I’ve read over and over on here, cut Hampton loose and use that money on somebody else. Hampton still gets his money even if he’s cut. I imagine the Braves have actually saved money by not cutting him. I know insurance was paying some, if not all, of his salary. It seems to me for the most part, you people need do whatever you do and let Braves management do what they do. If you want to watch, watch. If not watch some other team. There is only ONE WS Champion every year. Just pull for them every year. See how many times you’ll pull for the same team every year. I’ve been a Braves fan since the beginning, and I can tell you changing managers every year does not help.

By Firetheoldfool

July 20, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

Oh Yeah. I like this blog better than the DOB blog. Looks like everyone here has enough sense to see that the real problem with the Braves is the old fool Bobby Cox. OMG, the front office has to be blind. This team has been underperforming for three years now and the primary reason is the inept manager. He needs to retire!!!

By Corky for Golden Sombrero

July 20, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this

Wasn’t Corky on the ‘97 Special Olympic baseball team? Yeah, that’s right…because Bobby Cox managed him.

By jimcpa

July 20, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this

Teams toast..

By bobby

July 20, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

The worst thing about the Braves is that they don’t look like they care. They need to start with a new manager that would build a fire under them or else!

By athdog

July 20, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

Done.Done.Done. Bobby doesn’t seem to give us much chance to win the last couple of years. Andruw stayed in the 4 hole last year despite hitting well below his weight, and Frenchy not only can’t hit, but apparently now has forgotten how to throw. If his name were Jeff Diaz or Jeff Smith, he’d be in Richmond for the last two months. On that note, you don’t correct your stroke in three games against AA pitching, as we have seen since is recall from Mississippi. Send him to Richmond, see if he can hit AAA pitches. If he can’t, send him on his way. Jo Jo is too inconsistent, he must go-go. Acota is hurt, but when he returns, he must go. Gonazales is the scariest closer I hve ever seen. He scares me to death every time he comes in. The entire, I mean ENTIRE outfield has to be overhauled. Maybe we keep Blanco for his speed and potential. Second has to be upgraded, and where, oh where has Phil Stockman gone? It seems that Boyer and Ohman are the only ones out of the pen. Before Acosta was gone, he was always there with Boyer even though Ohman, Stockman are superior pitchers. Too much to even worry about. Football season is here.

By Corky for Golden Sombrero

July 20, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

But tj, it helped the Mets. Wait a minute…are you one of the Braves players in disguise here???

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

I think Mayor Shirley Franklin needs to head up a committee to raise up enough money to by the Braves from the present owners and place them in the hands of good LOCAL people who care. MLB was foolish to approve this sale a few years back.

By Vonshawn

July 20, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this

I don’t believe trading Tex is a very good idea. Getting two 1st round draft picks is just as good anything we’re going to get from anyone else.

And let’s face the facts, this just isn’t a very good team. We have holes at every position in the outfield, a young and inexperienced pitching staff, and an old manager that employs the same approach no matter the team or level of talent he fields. I guess however he deserves some credit when you consider what he has to work with…I guess.

By jimcpa

July 20, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

Its painful to listen to the announcers trying to make excuses….team is just bad..and I worry about Skip..he sounds real rough

By Aaron

July 20, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

The Braves are done. It’s time to be sellers and plan for next year.

By Trent

July 20, 2008 10:00 PM | Link to this

I agree with Vic. I was at the game on Friday June 06 against the Phillies when KJ dropped the pop-up, and the game ended on a throw-out at home plate. They’ve never recovered.

By ulpian88

July 20, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this

The Braves right now have the hang-dog look of a team that lacks a soul. Collectively, they have no grit, no fight, and no pitching. The pitchers seem to be a collection of mediocre guys who have grown accustomed to a pitching technique known as throw it and duck. Bob Gibson they are not. He used to become infuriated if some guy tagged him for a home run. These guys seem to take as part of day’s work. So they guy hit it 450 feet? Nothing new. Happened before and it will happen again.

The batters with two or three exceptions are automatic outs when an embryonic rally gets started. I have no idea what is going on in Francouer’s head. He plays like his mind is elsewhere. The weaknesses in the outfield are becoming a real bear of a problem. Collectively, they lack range and baseball savvy. Some of the throwing errors are enough to make a little leaguer blush.

Some teams play tough and smart. The Braves play easy and sloppy. That kind of play plus lousy pitching is a sure ticket to the bottom of the league.

I doubt if they can out founder the Nats. Those guys have to play somebody before long who does not flail and bail.

I do make one prediction: Somebody is headed out, and it is going to be one or more pitchers. Sure it is easy to kick as team when it is down, but this one seems to have limited desire to get up.

By William Moody

July 20, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this

This team lacks a sense of urgency-and when I mean this team, I mean management. They need an outfielder that will produce runs. While not the ideal candidate, Barry Bonds is available for the league minimum (pro-rated to the end of the year). Last year he hit 28 homers. Likewise, management has $$$$$$$$$ in Mike Hampton, yet any little hand nail keeps him on the sidelines. If this team was serious about reaching the playoffs, it would be bold. I don’t expect it.

By Jason

July 20, 2008 10:06 PM | Link to this

Braves = Sellers. Time to deal Teixeira and whoever else and get some young arms for the future.

By Murph

July 20, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this

This is one of the worst Braves teams of the last quarter century. Absolute abomination.

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 10:09 PM |