Are the Braves done?

By mike

July 20, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

We’re done

By DoesItMatter

July 20, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this

Braves = Done

By DHD

July 20, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

Yep, they are done. So, let’s make some deals and get ready for ‘09. We will lose lots of salaries next year. We have young pitching. There’s hope for the future, but not this year.

By Karwilk

July 20, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

Better start shopping Teixeira

By Theo

July 20, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

No, those hoping for a rebound were whistling in the dark.

Time to open the flea market.

First two out the door should be Boobey Cox and “No HIt” Pendelton.

By SteelCav

July 20, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

Stick a fork in ‘em. Ship out Ohman and Tex for prospects and lets start the rebuilding process now. A quick fix will not help this team this year, or the next.

By William

July 20, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this

I hate to say this but it’s over. The Braves need to trade Tex if an above-average offer is made to add to their core of youngsters. This will also give the Braves payroll flexibility.

By ben

July 20, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

ahh no. They won’t make a comeback and they will lose more games in the second half than the first.

By Nothappnin

July 20, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

No pitching + not enough offense…there isn’t a chance. Throw in a few multi-error games from the defense and you have a recipe for disaster. Time for the fire sale.

By Bravos

July 20, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this

Trade Tex, bring up Shafer, let Chipper rest, build for next year

By mike

July 20, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Unless the Braves go 5-1 or 6-0 in the next 5 games the Braves season is over.

By mike

July 20, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Unless the Braves go 5-1 or 6-0 in the next 6 games the Braves season is over.

By mike

July 20, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Unless the Braves go 5-1 or 6-0 in the next 6 games the Braves season is over.

By A realist

July 20, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

Eveery year when the Braves were managing to win over a weak division….for about 14 years….local fans were unaware that the other teams had the same kind of problems the Braves have now. At least no one cared much that other teams had injuries to key players, lost close games, etc.

In every sport, in every league, one team or two will put it all together, have lots of good luck, stay healthy and win the championship.

Now Atlanta fans are being reminded that it takes a lot of things to win. Remember the Braves of the 1970’s and 1980’s.

this ain’t 1998….it is 2008. We do not have Smoltz, Maddux, and Glavine. We have Jo-Jo, Jair, and whoever comes up next from Richmond.

By ben

July 20, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

I think this team is done for the year. The Braves just don’t have the talent to sustain a winning streak. Embarrassed at home by the team in last place in the division with the Marlins coming up on the road. Are we looking at a good triple AAA team if you take away Tex, Chipper and McCain? Time to start preparing for the new season in 2009.

By The Ghost of John Holmes

July 20, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

Look at the facts, folks:

The Braves have been a .500 team since the start of the 2006 season.

As far as I’m concerned, two-and-a-half seasons of mediocre play is ample time to conclude that this is a mediocre ballclub.

Sure, the Braves can say, “But if such-and-such happens, we can still make the playoffs”.

The thing is, two-thirds of the teams in the major leagues can say the same thing.

As far as the looming trade deadline is concerned: in hindsight, the Tex trade was a mistake. Hopefully, the Braves won’t compound the mistake by failing to get anything for Tex, who is a sure bet to leave at the end of the season.

The Braves should cast their eyes toward 2009 (and beyond) and trade Tex for the best package of players they can get, whether it’s a group of minor league prospects or guys who are already in the majors.

By bobby

July 20, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

The biggest mistake BC made today was letting the team take the field.

By J

July 20, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

Don Finoto I would love to keep Tex but looks like it can’t happen so lets trade him outside the division of course. I hear the Red Sox have a deep farm system and I don’t know if the D-rays are have interest but they have some good young tallent as well. With Hampton’s Salary coming off the books next year also maybe we can get a big time free agent and stay healthy and be competitive. What a waste of a great season by our future HOFamer CHIPPER J

By J

July 20, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Don Finoto I would love to keep Tex but looks like it can’t happen so lets trade him outside the division of course. I hear the Red Sox have a deep farm system and I don’t know if the D-rays are have interest but they have some good young tallent as well. With Hampton’s Salary coming off the books next year also maybe we can get a big time free agent and stay healthy and be competitive. What a waste of a great season by our future HOFamer CHIPPER J

By Braves never win on the road

July 20, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Its been over for weeks ,im sick of the braves

By CONNECTICUT BRAVES FAN

July 20, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

They have been finished for quite some time. It is time for a new manager, new coaches and a whole lot of new players. Trade any player except JaJurrens, Morton, & McCann. Tex, Hudson, & even Chipper would yield a large bounty of young talent. So do it and begin to build for the future. Fire Cox as soon as possible or risk losing your fan base. Hire John Farrell. pitching coach of the Boston Red Sox who will someday make a great manager.

By Braves never win on the road

July 20, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

Jo-Jo is just like Chuck Jamess ,no damn good !

By Billy

July 20, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

Might as well trade Tex, he probably won’t re-sign anyway.

By Chris

July 20, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

Sadly yes.

You can’t lose a series to the “worse” team in baseball and expect to take on the Fish, Mets or Phillies.

The gamble on the older arms of Smoltz, Glavine, Hampton, etc. just didn’t pan out in ‘08.

I think it’s time to trade a few players and start the full-scale re-building and start the retirement party for Bobby a little early.

By gotigers72

July 20, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

Turn out the lights, the party’s over, the Fat Lady sings,etc.

Time to start NOW working on next year to try and make sure this crap doesn’t happen again. Can’t continue to have putrid benches every year. Keep Infante and clean the rest of those has beens from the pine. If Corky Miller is on the roster next year, you know they’ve already given up. The bench was terrible last year, as bad or worse this year. The bench is a VERY important part of a team, yet Mr. Wren has chosen not to address improving that part of the team. Just keeps players like Corky, Norton and Gotay, none of whom are hitting over .220.

Also time to start trying to get some better bullpen pitchers, an outfield bat, and a starter if possible. Keep Will Ohman. I have read where they may think of trading him if they become sellers, but he has been by far the most consistent reliever, and I read where he said he WANTS to remain a Brave. I don’t think Teixeira feels that way. I think he wants to play for whoever wants to give him the most money. But if you have a GOOD player like Ohman that wants to stay, by all means try to accomodate him. I know Tex is a great player, but he doesn’t necessarily want to be here. If he did he would have already told Boras and a deal would have been worked out. You’ve never seen Chipper use leverage to try and get more money. In fact, he has worked out deals to HELP the Braves get players to help the TEAM become better.

These are just my opinions.

By IGivUp

July 20, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

Of all of the low points over the last three years, this is the lowest. We have been getting steadily worse and I do not see any reason for hope. We need to get rid of any relics of the past like Mike Hampton and look at the Marlin modle for rebuilding. Getting Tex was a good idea but we cannot afford him. They need to get as many pitching prospects for him and develop them. Change of coaching staff is another idea. It looks like the team is no longer responding to the current regime.

By Frank

July 20, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

Gid rid of Reyes and Chuck James for sure. I’m so sick of Reyes…..I can’t see straight. GET RID OF THE PITCHING DEAD WEIGHT ON THIS TEAM.

As I said in a earlier blog….the Braves would be VERY dumb not to try to resign Tex. At the very least, at least try to re-sign him…..if it don’t work…well, then…bye, bye Tex but at least try.

By jimcpa

July 20, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

They were lucky they didn’t get swept..one more timely hit by the nats in the 9th on Friday and that would have happened. 3-3 against the two worst teams in baseball back to back with the top of our rotation …twice..hampton has now teaked his p—— so he won’t be back…trade Tex and Franc the Tank (as he likes to call himself when hes hitting) and get back Harris and proven pitching

By vick

July 20, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

We need a new Hitting Coach. Our Hitting coach was a terrible hitter how did he become a coach? you should look at his MVP Season… somethign like 292 batting average and 20 homeruns.. You would be batting at the bottom of the order with something like that now..

By Braves never win on the road

July 20, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

Can someone tell me why Cokey Miller is on this team ?Whats he hitting now .099 ?

By WhereisHarryCarry'sHONESTY?

July 20, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

I was at the game sat nite and sunday… i will NOT go back this year…pathetic! Where is the hustle???? Are they not paying these guys enough?? LOL!!!

By Braves never win on the road

July 20, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

I was Tex i wouldnt want to sign with a bounch of misfits eather

By Braves never win on the road

July 20, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

Where’s Harry, Mike Hampton is getting his money sitting on his azz robbin the Braves like a bandit lol

By dack jerrick

July 20, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

Turn out the lights,the party’s over.This is a bad team. Truly the worst team the Braves have fielded since the 1990 season. Bringing Franceour back from Double A ball was a sad mistake for him and for the big-league club. The whole outfit shows no heart, no fire, no cojounes with the exception of Escobar and McCann. Keep those two and Chipper, sign Teixeira, then start dealin’ like crazy

By Dave

July 20, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

It’s a waste of time and money if they don’t get rid of Cox!

By BaseballisBoring

July 20, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

they keep trading their good young players for old broken down BoyScouts. And now its biting them in the butt. How long can they expect to use the same formula?

By gayle

July 20, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

Done? The Braves have been done for a long time. They have been done since the 8th inning on October 23, 1996.

All you Braves fans know the date - Wohlers to Leyritz. A three-run homer to tie the game and eventually to lose in the 10th.

Since that game, the Braves have not won a World Series game (0-7). Since then, they are 5-9 in post season series. They have not made it out of the LDS since 2001.

How the management of this team has not only held their jobs, but maitain the support of the ownership is really a slap in the face to all the fans.

Today, the Braves were embarrased by a team that has won only 4 of their last 14 games and 2 of those wins were over the Braves. And remember hearing how this was a “must-win” series?

As long as the fans and the local press coddle this team and expect so little, there will not be any changes. In most other cities, Cox would have been booted out years ago.

Every day that this organization, the press and the fans perpetuate this myth of one more post season run is one less day this team can break down and retool and become a team that not only can make it into the playoffs, but can win once they get there.

By hop

July 20, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

earth to wren, it is high time you stop making excuses and start the fire sale!

chipper,tex,frenchy,glavine,smotzie,and hampton need to go as starters.

this time is below average and has been for the last two years.

the braves brass need to get their head of their rearend, and start the process of building this team from the ground up!

By Raleigh Dog

July 20, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

Been over for a couple of years now. They stink. It’s amazing that anyone would think they can do what they haven’t done in three years or more. They are just awful. An embarassment. Now I wonder what the fans who left all those seats empty during the playoffs are thinking. But they won’t have to worry cause it will be a long long time and a whole new generation of players before playoff baseball comes back to Atlanta. Ted Turner delivered on his promise and brought us great baseball, at least during the regular season. Worst thing of all is how poor a playoff manager Cox was. Should have won three or four World Series. It’s over and back to the future. The horrible 70s and 80s. At least the Braves may get a shot at worst to first again.

By 18 Wheels of Love

July 20, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

If you have the question (Are the Braves out of it?) then the answer must be a given….

Funny thing, the Braves were never in it. Sure we may have been 2 games out but we have never been a threat to much of anything other than futility.

By Tomy Fournier

July 20, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

OKKKK…MR FANS…WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING NOW AND CRYING…IS THE SAME THAT I TOLD YOU FROM THE BEGINNING…ATLANTA IS OUUUUUUT,FROM THE BIGINIGN…THEY DO NOT HAVE NOTHING TO COMPETE…JUST A BUNTCH OF OLD TRASH….A NURSING HOME….POINT…OKKKKKK?????

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

This is very easy to break down.1. we need owners who want to spend money on the team— 2. Get rid of Bobby Cox. He was good back in the day but he’s outdated now. Time for a breath of fresh air.3. Gid rid of putzes like Corky Miller and that Norton guy, they’re awful!

By bill

July 20, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

The Bravos are cooked! Be smart and trade Tex for what young prospects you can get! Play the market up until the final bell if you need to, but get seomething in return for him… What happened to Schafer…. roids?

By elainer7

July 20, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

They were done before they got started. Stick a fork in them.

By Breal

July 20, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this

It is time to trade Tex for sure. I am with the others who think that Tampa Bay or the Red Soxs would be a great fit to get some young talent in return. I am sorry to say that I also agree it is time for Bobby Cox and Terry “Hitless Wonder” Pendelton to go. Let’s clean this up during the second half of this season make some good moves in the off season getting a free agent or two. I would like to compete for the playoffs before 2011.

By Dave

July 20, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this

The team has no energy or desire and this starts at the top, with Bobby Cox. We have consistently been poor at coming back from behind late in the game, hitting with 2 outs and runners in scoring position, etc. If they hadn’t traded for Tex last year, Andruw would have continued to bat cleanup even though he was losing more games than winning with defense. Cox is way past his time to retire, and without getting a new manager and hitting coach, it’s a waste of money to trade for new players. I don’t think Tex would resign even if Braves would offer his bucks..he wants to go were they have a chance at World Series,like Drew did

By Ben

July 20, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

Just like the City of Atlanta needs to let the civil rights era go the Braves need to stop living on their one and only World Series win of 95,new management for both, it’s time to move on.

By Dawg88

July 20, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

The Death Knell Was Sounded Today.

Trade Texeria but not Ohman.

New manager needed for next year. The game has passed BC by. Pendleton should not and never should be again a hitting instructor. His hiring was a mistake.

McDowell has done well with limited talent and injuries. He should stay. Hubbard should be retained as well as Snitker. In other words, other than those 3…we need new blood.

If Frank Wren was looking for a sign as to what to do before the deadline, the Braves sent the message loud and clear today….with a huge thud.

Never thought that I would say this…but the Braves don’t know how to win. They look lost and as if the towel has been tossed in. Sad.

Start over in 2009. 2008 has fizzled out and faded to black! Goodbye Tex. Good luck in the playoffs.

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

Notice that the Braves haven’t played good since present ownership took over? They are the ATLANTA Braves. Get some local ownership in here who cares about the team and wants to make them the best. I dislike the status of the way things are now, I knew this would happen when the Braves were sold to these bozos!!! Tax write-offs..thats how the present owners see the Braves.

By Joe

July 20, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

For the first time in my adult life I have to say I’m ashamed of being a Braves fan… There is no excuse for this team being this pathetic. Not with the talent level. Cox needs to go for one. There’s no excuse in putting out there that kind of pathetic lineup. Corky Miller is not a Major League baseball player and wouldn’t be on any other roster but of course. The Braves.. . There has to be a better catcher somewhere in the system. I figured it was about time the wheel ran off the decent stating pitching that the Braves have been getting lucky with. Reyes has a long way to go and so does Morton. get ready for a good bombing from his next start. After this debacle today I will make much better use of my time than to watch these pathetic losers!!!!

By Jim Craig

July 20, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this

Braves offense is offensive; I wonder how successful they would be if the opposing pitcher delivered the ball in Slow-Pitch fashion. My guess is, they still would not be able to hit. Can you agree that BOTH “Hitting Coach” AND “Pitching Coach” are two very necessary remedies to a team in a rapid downspiral?

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

Don’t get me wrong, I still love the Braves, but, I’m going to have to temporarlily divorce myself from watching them so I don’t have a stroke at the tender age of 34.

By NEW GM

July 20, 2008 7:16 PM | Link to this

Braves need to have a plan to build the best team in the world. The object if I were GM would be to have the best 8 position players in MLB, best 12 pitchers, power pitchers, and the best 5 bench players. Determine if we the Braves have any of these best 25 and keep them, and work ourselves into the ground until we accomplish this mission. If our young troops can fight a war, be injured, or die for their country why can’t we simply get 25 baseball players with talent, heart, and team ethic. Come on it just can’t be that tough. The Hawks don’t need but 5 players, what’s the problem. Hire managers and coaches that can beat yourn and take yourn and beat hisen. Mr. Schuerholz and Mr. Wren and the money people please get this done now! My Lord Jesus is coming soon and I want to go out a winner.

By southbeachdietfreak

July 20, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

People laughed at the Marlins over their Fire sales. Somehow they just keep winning ball games. No Dontrelle Willis either! Why do we just hold on to people instead of trying to make this team better?

By Drew

July 20, 2008 7:22 PM | Link to this

that was some asinine baseball

this is getting tough to read about\

the pirates have more killer instinct than the braves

By Sitting Bull O'Brien

July 20, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

He starts one blog that is titled “Must win game”“”So they lost the game they “must win”. Does that not mean they are done? I’ve heard of speaking with a forked tongue but o’Brien brings it to new levels.

By Chicken Little was right!

July 20, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

Unless Bobby Cox is GONE, the Braves are DONE. It’s so pitiful listening to him talking about how good this and that was when the ONLY thing that matters is the final score.

Just think how bad thing would be without Tex, and Frenchy, shave that face and take Delta back to AA ball.

By BOBCEE

July 20, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

When you have excessive bleeding you need to fix the wound. Time to apply the tourniquet and stop the bleeding. Tell hampton to supersize his injuries and get a new job. Glavine and Smoltz were great in the past but they must both realize their time is up. Say good bye to Frenchy, Diaz, Norton, Corky, Royce, Tex, and maybe even Chipper. Also don’t count on Soriano he is a disaster waiting to happen. In summary time to clean house

By Michael

July 20, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

FIRE BOBBY COX!!!!

By Mike Hampton's vajayjay

July 20, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this

Boy, I’m sure glad I didn’t leave Myrtle Beach for this.

By Steve from Marietta

July 20, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

The Braves had to sweep the Nationals. Instead they got pounded by a punchless team!! Early in the year they were UNBEATABLE at home. Now they are just plain beatable. Injuries have killed the season: Kotsay, Diaz, Escobar, Chipper, Glavine, Smoltz, Hampton, Soriano, etc, etc. Francouer has showed he is a pedestrian player. This team wasn’t supposed to be as good as the Mets or Phillies. Atlanta expected more from them because of (sorry whiners) Bobby Cox. You can only manage around injuries so far when some veterans don’t pick up the slack. Bottom line-its time to deal Texiera and others. I think the real question is, besides Chipper,McCann, and Escobar, who on the current roster is untouchable??

By ofcblackmon

July 20, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this

the braves are done,lets clean house and start over.lets go back to pitching and defense. we have two good starters in hudson and j.j. the bullpen is pretty good with gonzalez out there. we can trade tex for a proven pitcher and some prospects. ohman can get us a couple of prospects. but lets get some bench players. but most of all lets get a manager who will light a fire under the players when they need it. bobby was a good manager but the time has come for some new life to come in and take these players and whip them into playing hard. i think frenchy can be saved if has someone to work on his hitting. the infield is workable if we can find a 1st baseman. remember pitching and defense was always preached and that is what helped us win along with the players had the heart to win.

By Goaltender

July 20, 2008 7:32 PM | Link to this

The Brave elevator keeps finding new lows.An addition or two a few weeks back could have turned things around and we wouldn’t have hit this point. You-who Mr. Wren wakey wakey -we had a sub .100 catcher playing in a so called “must game” today.

By Max

July 20, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this

i am sorry to say that the braves are done. with the injuries to smoltz, glavine, hampton, and diaz have been too much. Chipper, McCann, abd Jurrjens have been the only bright spots this season. Texeira has not lived up to his potential. The red sox have been wanting Tex so trade him to the sox to get some good pitching and hitting prospects that are ready to play immediatelly i just dont understand y they are so bad with all the talent they have

By Matt

July 20, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

Can we please find a backup catcher that can hit?? I’ve gotten to where I won’t watch games that McCann isn’t playing in. The team just seems to have given up and maybe it is finally time for Bobby to call it quits, bring in some fresh blood, and let the prospects duke it out for playing time.

By Mel

July 20, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

Bring back the retro 70s uniforms, cuz these guys are playing the same way. A last place team playing out the rest of the season.

By ryan

July 20, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this

trade hudson we could alot for him and fire cox.When cox resigned for next year he said he still enjoyes the game Idont enjoy watching him managing anymore like bunting in the first inning again at least we got a run today he must of thought it was going to be close.can Prado play im sick of kj.Get rid of buddy gotay norton corky taveras kotsay jojo will never be a solid stater.

By The Truth

July 20, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

Like a great coach said to my team when we were beating another team pretty bad in football….”It’s over baby, stick a fork in em’ cause they done”

By john

July 20, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

Tex hasnt lived up to his potential ? Well, maybe not but he is still having a solid year. He’s on pace to hit 30 hr and drive in 120 rbi’s and he’s played good defense at 1st. I think the Braves should trade him because there is no way they will pay him 20+ mill a year after this season. I would also like to see the Braves trade Frenchy. He has been a huge disappointment.

By TampaGator

July 20, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

Done!!! Too bad Bobby didn’t decide to retire after this year. This teams needs some new blood from the manager down, I am afraid. And, how many more WS titles do you think the Braves would have won if Tony LaRussa had been managing this team for the last 16 years or so. Probably 3 to 5 more at least. Bobby = 1 (and he was lucky to win that one). Time to retire, Bobby, please!

By You got to be kidding me

July 20, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this

The braves have been done for months! When will somebody in management get it? Every series the AJC posts will the braves win this one? and every series they dont! Here is the bottom line people… to be a contender you HAVE TO WIN GAMES!!!!!!! You cannot hope for other teams to lose to put you in position! And the next time that idiot of a manager, Bobby Cox gets thrown out of a game make sure they throw him out of the damn stadium and onto 285!

By randy

July 20, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

I say lets trade most of our good players. That includes Chipper, Tex, Hudson. We could get a ton of good young talent in return. Sure, we may only win 20 games each year the next 2 or 3 years but 4 years from now we will be great.

By bravo

July 20, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

With the inept Terry McGuirk anywhere near the decision making process for this team, you can call it a season. This guy is PITIFUL and Braves fans have no clue. He is the architect of this disaster. He is Liberty’s “boy” and is not accountable on anyone’s radar! WHAT DOES THIS PATHETIC “man” DO? He MUST go before ANY hope of former glory to the Braves can be reached. FIRE McGUIRK! He is the script writer of this ownership deal and continuing debacle! What does he do to even earn a paycheck?

By Kevin

July 20, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

After today excuse of a Team Bobby cox has lost it n Wren its time to fire TP n Bobby cox which u should had done at break…But u did not n u see they not want win anymore under baby u players cox…He should just go home beat his wife again….Cause he should be Fired!

By You got to be kidding me

July 20, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this

“Bad ballgame,” Cox added. “We can do better than that, for sure.” Well… When the F**K are you planning to start? November?

By fred

July 20, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this

toast…unless the 10 in row starts now. Losing 2 of 3 to pathetic Nationals is pathetic….

By Atlantarama

July 20, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this

Anyone who says “fire Bobby Cox” is an idiot. Do you really think any replacement the Braves would come up with would be as effective?

Injuries did the team in, not the manager.

By duh

July 20, 2008 8:10 PM | Link to this

pls trade Chipper as well. You could get a haul for him and he is 35 for God’s sake, injury prone … DO NOT make him the cornertsone for your future. Trade him while you can get something. If you are 35 or older or higher than 5 mill per year you should be one of teh players to go…..clean out the place

By You got to be kidding me

July 20, 2008 8:10 PM | Link to this

FIRE BOBBY COX NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By duh

July 20, 2008 8:10 PM | Link to this

pls trade Chipper as well. You could get a haul for him and he is 35 for God’s sake, injury prone … DO NOT make him the cornerstone for your future. Trade him while you can get something. If you are 35 or older or higher than 5 mill per year you should be one of the players to go…..clean out the place…now

By Tom Beasley

July 20, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

According to that great sports writer, Terence Moore, we should keep Tex for if we don’t, we have given up. I hope that ignorant buffoon saw today’s game. It is time to move Tex for some major league players, not draft choices. This season is done, finished, toast, and has been for quite some time. Makes you wonder what Terence has been smoking or if he is just that ignorant in the world of sports.

By Fire Boo-by now

July 20, 2008 8:18 PM | Link to this

Gayle’s comments are right own. Too bad she isnt covering the Braves for the AJC instead of all the homers who worship at the altar of Cox and Pendleton.

By dICK

July 20, 2008 8:20 PM | Link to this

Today was prime example Cox is finished. Whe your starting pitcher goes to afull count om 50% of the batters he faces in first two innings, a mediocere coach would know the pitcher didn’t have it. Hitting coach is a joke, When your pitchers can’t lay down a bunt as they havne’t been able to do this season, it is a reflection on coach. Francour needs to go back to AA and come back when he has worked thru his problems, not when he cries and moans and groans. Teacm doesn’t want to win when back up catcher is hitting lower average than some of pitchers. They are finished, it is time to clear the bench. I would play Chipper at first, move starting shortstop to third, trade Tex. Infield then is set, Jones on first, Johnson at second, rookie at short and Escabor at third. This leaves week spto in Center and Right.

By outgoing37

July 20, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

Ive been a Braves fan since 1980.I have seen some awful seasons.But this Braves team is pretty embarrassing.Mainly cause they have a lineup and a team that in my opinion is better than the Mets and Phillies.But for some reason cant get up for bigtime series and must wins.They should give us money to watch them play.They should be paying us.I dont wanna hear there we need to do this.If you cant beat the Phillies..Nationals.Then you dont deserve the Playoffs.I still root for you.But i think its comming on 3 str8t non playoffs seasons.Can the Hawks record be next?? EMBARRASSING..PERIOD..THERE DONE.

By bravesfan

July 20, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

Pendleton must go

Trade Tex now.

By cww

July 20, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

The Braves do need new manager and hitting coach. They also need to stop trading for and/or signing has been broken down players just because they can get them cheap and hope they can make a comeback.It doesn’t seem like most of the players we have really care anymore. Maybe they should clean house.

By cww

July 20, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this

The Braves do need new manager and hitting coach. They also need to stop trading for and/or signing has been broken down players just because they can get them cheap and hope they can make a comeback.It doesn’t seem like most of the players we have really care anymore. Maybe they should clean house.

By EMS

July 20, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

Keep McCann, Hudson, Jurjens and Escobar and get rid of the others

By sheila

July 20, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

As long as there are players on our team like Miller 103 batting average and Prado and Nelson start in place of our regular players we are done.

Why Bobby is always using the utility players when the starters sit on the bench is beyond me. Its ok to use one for rest, but Cox emplodes the whole lineup with utility players when the games are must win games. Makes no sense to me.

I say we start getting a lineup that can hit and does not get rattled. Johnson and Tex need to be replaced. Chipper needs to retire and become the new hitting coach. Build the team around McCann, Francoeur and Essobar.

By Dean

July 20, 2008 8:45 PM | Link to this

Braves were done when Kelly dropped the ball against Philly in early June. Since then the Braves have gone 14-23. They had been 3 games over .500 at that point.

That loss was the worst loss I have ever seen, and I’m convinced that it got to the Braves.

It’s too bad. I thought they were going to make it to the playoffs this year.

Can’t wait for college football.

By SRF

July 20, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this

I do not have all the answers, but it seems to me when you get beaten like a ragdoll by the last place team in your own stadium, it is a clear sign of trouble.

I say rest Chipper and McCann who have nagging injuries.

Get rid of Corky right now.

Bring up lots of prospects and try and find a young and hungry bunch,

By coach k

July 20, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this

keep the team get rid of Bobby and Pendleton, corky miller, hampton,. With those salaries gone sign tex and insist on playing small ball, hit and run and get some freaking passion. This is the same lame team since the 96 when will anyone realize the pitching staff bailed mgmt out all those years, should have had 4 world champ. By Bobbie time to head to the farm, yours

By Edward

July 20, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this

Get rid of frenchy is sucks

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this

Anybody who says KEEP Bobby Cox is an idiot. Look at the Mets. They fired Randolph and look at them now, just coming off a 10 game winning streak. In any other town Cox would have been gone. Why is upper management so sentimental about Cox??? And why in the hell did we get rid of Brayan Pena in favor of the awful Corky Miller??? They Braves are done for the year and quite possibly for a long time until some attitudes change in the organization.

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

Anybody who says KEEP Bobby Cox is an idiot. Look at the Mets. They fired Randolph and look at them now, just coming off a 10 game winning streak. In any other town Cox would have been gone. Why is upper management so sentimental about Cox??? And why in the hell did we get rid of Brayan Pena in favor of the awful Corky Miller??? They Braves are done for the year and quite possibly for a long time unless some attitudes change in the organization.

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this

Anybody who says KEEP Bobby Cox is an idiot. Look at the Mets. They fired Randolph and look at them now, just coming off a 10 game winning streak. In any other town Cox would have been gone. Why is upper management so sentimental about Cox??? And why in the hell did we get rid of Brayan Pena in favor of the awful Corky Miller??? They Braves are done for the year and quite possibly for a long time unless some attitudes change in the organization.

By Charlie

July 20, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

When you are 5-22 in one run games and have a losing record to one of the worse teams in the NL, you know its time to make changes. I would start with Cox. He is probably leaving after next year anyway so why wait. Lets get someone in here that will kick some butt and fire these guys up. I am so sick of their lethargic play. They make every team they play look like world beaters. Embarrassing!

By Dawg hatin' Jacket

July 20, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

It’s over. Been over for weeks. Started with the Kelly Johnson blooper and gone downhill from there.

Time to start the rebuilding, which needs to begin with Bobby Cox. His time has come and gone, we need fresh blood. Trade Tex and build for the future.

Bring on football.

By Pete

July 20, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

Bobby needs to go. Having Corky Miller on this roster is one of the dumbest moves ever. The guy is hitting under .100 and calls a terrible game. Today Jo Jo was hanging every curveball yet Corky continued to call for it.

By goingtobrough

July 20, 2008 9:03 PM | Link to this

From a coaching standpoint, you can’t make chicken salad out of chicken sh..With all of the injuries what else do you expect Cox to do. I was at saturdays game and it made me sick to watch the mistakes. Pitching and defense wins games and we have no pitching and when we get some we can’t score other than Chipper, McCann, or Tex. Why do you leave Carlise in today when he’s getting no one out? His confidence is shot now. Use Hampton’s, Glavine’s, and Smoltz’s salaries to get two young pitchers and hope to find another to go along with Hudson and J.J. I appreciate what Smoltz and Glavine have done but they must do what’s best for the team. Hampton’s body just will not hold up and we need to move on. It will not be a quick fix but we only got good when we were spending money, making good deals, and had a strong farm system. Sad to see the former braves farm guys doing us in this past weekend.

By Dick

July 20, 2008 9:06 PM | Link to this

Any of you dudes queer? Wanna be?

By Sherman

July 20, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

They’re done as fried chicken!

By Chris

July 20, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

15-6

In a word…they SUCK

Yeah, it’s kinda blunt, New York style but honest.

Time to trade/sell those of value for fresh young talent for ‘09+

Bye Tex, we thought you would carry the team but it looks like you’re just another hired gun for someone else.

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

It’s obvious the team doesn’t care. How can a team let a sucky team like the Nats come in and totally spank them??? They don’ care. Cox doesn’t care…he puts Corky Miller in and stinks up the place.

By alex

July 20, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this

It can’t hurt to shop Tex and see what we can get. If it’s good, then trade him. if not, then don’t. I assume this is already being contemplated. Because it’s not like the Braves even remotely look like a play-off team, as much as I’d love to think they are. Good ownership is impartial ownership. Be realistic: Does your team look like it’s capable of making a prolonged run of great baseball? For our Braves, the answer is certainly no. Shop Tex. It can’t hurt.

By Connie

July 20, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

There is NO passion nor chemistry with this team. I don’t know which team is a bigger joke…….2007 Falcons or 2008 Braves! Sheesh!

By so what

July 20, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

So what if we win the division this year. Our problems will be with us next year and the years too come. The Marlins and their TWO World Series titles should teach us that change is necessary. Bring on the changes, good-bye Tex, etc..

By Pete

July 20, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this

I expect Cox to have a backup catcher that can hit over .100. I expect Cox to handle the pitching staff better. I expect Cox to have a better outfield instead of Blanco, hitting .260 with 1 HR and 19 RBI. Kotsay hitting .270 and Jeff hitting .230. Weather you think so or not Cox has a lot of pull deciding the roster. I would much rather have Josh Anderson that Blanco. Blanco is not and never will be even an avg. MLBP. We have NO POWER When you have an outfield that has a total of about 20HR you cannot have a SS and 2nd baseman that have 15 or 16 total. All of these moves are made with the blessing of Cox. Cox won all those division titles with 3 HOF pitchers and usually the highest paid NL team.

By R1U

July 20, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this

QUITTERS all of you!!! Colorado could have mailed it in last year —- Houston could have done it also a few years back!!! The Yankees of 77 with Bucky Dent overcame more in a tough Division It ain’t over til it’s over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Stew

July 20, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

I said it 10 years ago, Fire Cox. Any manager who puts a slowball pitcher (Greg McMichael) in a crucial part of a world series game dosn’t deserve to manage.

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

Can’t wait for football. At least the Falcons might be promising this year. They act like they give a fig about their future. For example, the Birds got rid of MeAngelo, Crumpler, Dunn, and the Corky Miller of football—Byron Leftwich. The Birds have promise…the Braves have no passion to compete.

By vic

July 20, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this

It all ended on Friday, June 06 when Kelly Johnson dropped that popup against the phillies..

By tj

July 20, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this

Some of you people show how little you know about baseball and how hard it is, and how much money it takes, to put together a team full of all stars. We got one on here that would build a team with the best 25 players in baseball. Half the bloggers on here saying trade Chipper. If you knew anything at all you would know Chipper CANNOT be traded unless Chipper WANTS to be traded. He has taken less money to stay here more than once, and he says he does not want to play anywhere else. Until he changes his mind he will be here until he retires. I’ve read over and over on here, cut Hampton loose and use that money on somebody else. Hampton still gets his money even if he’s cut. I imagine the Braves have actually saved money by not cutting him. I know insurance was paying some, if not all, of his salary. It seems to me for the most part, you people need do whatever you do and let Braves management do what they do. If you want to watch, watch. If not watch some other team. There is only ONE WS Champion every year. Just pull for them every year. See how many times you’ll pull for the same team every year. I’ve been a Braves fan since the beginning, and I can tell you changing managers every year does not help.

By Firetheoldfool

July 20, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

Oh Yeah. I like this blog better than the DOB blog. Looks like everyone here has enough sense to see that the real problem with the Braves is the old fool Bobby Cox. OMG, the front office has to be blind. This team has been underperforming for three years now and the primary reason is the inept manager. He needs to retire!!!

By Corky for Golden Sombrero

July 20, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this

Wasn’t Corky on the ‘97 Special Olympic baseball team? Yeah, that’s right…because Bobby Cox managed him.

By jimcpa

July 20, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this

Teams toast..

By bobby

July 20, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

The worst thing about the Braves is that they don’t look like they care. They need to start with a new manager that would build a fire under them or else!

By athdog

July 20, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

Done.Done.Done. Bobby doesn’t seem to give us much chance to win the last couple of years. Andruw stayed in the 4 hole last year despite hitting well below his weight, and Frenchy not only can’t hit, but apparently now has forgotten how to throw. If his name were Jeff Diaz or Jeff Smith, he’d be in Richmond for the last two months. On that note, you don’t correct your stroke in three games against AA pitching, as we have seen since is recall from Mississippi. Send him to Richmond, see if he can hit AAA pitches. If he can’t, send him on his way. Jo Jo is too inconsistent, he must go-go. Acota is hurt, but when he returns, he must go. Gonazales is the scariest closer I hve ever seen. He scares me to death every time he comes in. The entire, I mean ENTIRE outfield has to be overhauled. Maybe we keep Blanco for his speed and potential. Second has to be upgraded, and where, oh where has Phil Stockman gone? It seems that Boyer and Ohman are the only ones out of the pen. Before Acosta was gone, he was always there with Boyer even though Ohman, Stockman are superior pitchers. Too much to even worry about. Football season is here.

By Corky for Golden Sombrero

July 20, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

But tj, it helped the Mets. Wait a minute…are you one of the Braves players in disguise here???

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

I think Mayor Shirley Franklin needs to head up a committee to raise up enough money to by the Braves from the present owners and place them in the hands of good LOCAL people who care. MLB was foolish to approve this sale a few years back.

By Vonshawn

July 20, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this

I don’t believe trading Tex is a very good idea. Getting two 1st round draft picks is just as good anything we’re going to get from anyone else.

And let’s face the facts, this just isn’t a very good team. We have holes at every position in the outfield, a young and inexperienced pitching staff, and an old manager that employs the same approach no matter the team or level of talent he fields. I guess however he deserves some credit when you consider what he has to work with…I guess.

By jimcpa

July 20, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

Its painful to listen to the announcers trying to make excuses….team is just bad..and I worry about Skip..he sounds real rough

By Aaron

July 20, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

The Braves are done. It’s time to be sellers and plan for next year.

By Trent

July 20, 2008 10:00 PM | Link to this

I agree with Vic. I was at the game on Friday June 06 against the Phillies when KJ dropped the pop-up, and the game ended on a throw-out at home plate. They’ve never recovered.

By ulpian88

July 20, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this

The Braves right now have the hang-dog look of a team that lacks a soul. Collectively, they have no grit, no fight, and no pitching. The pitchers seem to be a collection of mediocre guys who have grown accustomed to a pitching technique known as throw it and duck. Bob Gibson they are not. He used to become infuriated if some guy tagged him for a home run. These guys seem to take as part of day’s work. So they guy hit it 450 feet? Nothing new. Happened before and it will happen again.

The batters with two or three exceptions are automatic outs when an embryonic rally gets started. I have no idea what is going on in Francouer’s head. He plays like his mind is elsewhere. The weaknesses in the outfield are becoming a real bear of a problem. Collectively, they lack range and baseball savvy. Some of the throwing errors are enough to make a little leaguer blush.

Some teams play tough and smart. The Braves play easy and sloppy. That kind of play plus lousy pitching is a sure ticket to the bottom of the league.

I doubt if they can out founder the Nats. Those guys have to play somebody before long who does not flail and bail.

I do make one prediction: Somebody is headed out, and it is going to be one or more pitchers. Sure it is easy to kick as team when it is down, but this one seems to have limited desire to get up.

By William Moody

July 20, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this

This team lacks a sense of urgency-and when I mean this team, I mean management. They need an outfielder that will produce runs. While not the ideal candidate, Barry Bonds is available for the league minimum (pro-rated to the end of the year). Last year he hit 28 homers. Likewise, management has $$$$$$$$$ in Mike Hampton, yet any little hand nail keeps him on the sidelines. If this team was serious about reaching the playoffs, it would be bold. I don’t expect it.

By Jason

July 20, 2008 10:06 PM | Link to this

Braves = Sellers. Time to deal Teixeira and whoever else and get some young arms for the future.

By Murph

July 20, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this

This is one of the worst Braves teams of the last quarter century. Absolute abomination.

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this

Toss in the towel boys. This one’s a goner.

By Bill

July 20, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this

I told everybody back in the spring when the braves signed old man Glaven that the Braves would finish in 3 place but i was wrong they will finish last. the Braves have had a great run but it’s over.The Braves have no hiting picthing or defence and francoer is a mess he looks nothing like the player i saw last year.

By dwaynerice

July 20, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this

While it is true that the Braves have suffered an unusual number of injuries this year, what they really suffer from is ineptness…no team speed, no fundamentals, no situation, clutch hitting, no small ball, no legit leadoff hitter, etc., and no shortage of excuses. Will always be a fan, been one since the miserable days of late ’70s early ’80s. You have heard of one having to laugh to keep from crying, well, in reading this blog, I have been laughing so hard I HAVE been crying!! Many of these comments and takes on these situations and the way you all phrase them are absolutely PRICELESS!!

By William Moody

July 20, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this

I agree with most of you. How on Earth do you keep Corky (I can’t hit my IQ) Miller and release Branyan Pena? I bet he would hit Corky’s IQ. Also, at what point is management going to realize that Jo-Jo needs to go. At least Buddy Carlisle will keep you in the game.

By Joe

July 20, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

It’s over. Today’s loss was the last nail in the coffin.

By Joe

July 20, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

It’s over. Today’s loss was the last nail in the coffin.

By dwaynerice

July 20, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this

Ulpian88 @10:01 p.m. and William Moody @ 10:05 p.m. you both are right on target, unfortunately.

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

The Braves have rolled over and died. Once upon a time they would have rebounded from this. This is the very example of Murphy’s Law…what can go wrong will go wrong and my friends, it’s all going wrong at the same time. This team reminds me of those late 80’s teams that played without the passion or the soul. Heck, back then, we fired managers when the team wasn’t performing. Now, for some reason, we won’t fire the manager, eventhough he needs to go. I have had some time to think on this and I believe that if the current team had good leadership, they might just make a comeback, eventhough I still believe they need to let some of the underperformers and the deadweight go. It all starts with leadership. This team is just a reflection of the manager.

By Glenn

July 20, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this

Been done! Wait till next year! Not! Dump the big bucks,bring on the kids!

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this

Corky must be the new team mascot. That’s about all he’s good for. Sorry for the bluntness.

By Raymond

July 20, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

what’s the excuse now ? looking ahead to the Marlins and Phils ? they have to be kidding ! how can you be embarassed by the Nats like that at home when you supposedly are in a playoff race ! I knew they were done weeks ago. now, everyone knows. hopefully this includes Wren.

By William Moody

July 20, 2008 10:31 PM | Link to this

Can’t stop watching, though. Was a Braves fan back when they had Pat Rocket and Biff Pocoroba (and did they ever stink). I’ll continue to watch and suffer, always hoping that ownership will loosen up the purse strings. Good seats in September will be easy to come by this year.

By Fire whole team

July 20, 2008 10:33 PM | Link to this

Well, just like the Braves, I’m going to roll over and go to sleep. Good night, my fellow suffering Braves fan. Look to next year. We’ll be alright then.=)

By Robert

July 20, 2008 10:36 PM | Link to this

This year’s Braves were toast the moment Bobby Cox showed up at spring training

By ben

July 20, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

Embarrassed at home by the last place team. Time for Wren to start earning some of the big money he’s making and make some decisions about players. What about ole Hampton? No telling what that guy is making just for doing rehab.

By RAR

July 20, 2008 10:45 PM | Link to this

Back up the truck Frank, this team is “done”. Get what you can for the over priced players and take a page from the Marlins playbook and go young and agressive.

I suggest that the Braves send Jo Jo Reyes to Richmond to learn how to control his pitches, activate Soriano, add Carlyle to the rotation, release Corky Miller and ask KC to trade back Pena for any player now in Richmond. Maybe then Escobar will return to form, because his buddy is back, and we will have a backup catcher who can hit his weight.

Wait ‘til next season, I hope we don’t have to wait 100 years for another championship, like the Cubs!

Go Tampa Bay Rays!!!

By JohninJax

July 20, 2008 10:47 PM | Link to this

I love the Braves and have been going to Braves games for over 30 years but this year is over. They need to trade Tex. I guess we will have to wait til next year.

By Dirty Sanchez

July 20, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

Dead as a doornail….this is starting to feel like the bad old days of the late 80s when we had the great Gerald Perry and company on the field….

It’s going to be some empty stadium games for August and September….

By tj

July 20, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

To Corky

You are right, the Mets have caught fire. Who knows why or for how long. But they do have good players and a large payroll, not a roster of mostly minor leaguers,which is basicaly what the Braves have. Maybe they had a problem with Willie, I don’t know. I do know there was a lot of griping on that team when Willie was there. I’m pretty sure the Braves don’t have that problem and never will as long as Bobby is there. Maybe it was the change. I’m not saying it’s never a good thing, it is. I think it will take more than 12-15 games to know for sure. And then there’s Detroit, Los Angeles and the Yankees, three of the biggest payrolls in all of baseball. In my opinion, two of the best are Ned Yost and Freddie Garcia, and they both worked under Bobby Cox. And by the way , I’m hoping Yost will replace Bobby when he’s gone.

By TI

July 20, 2008 11:00 PM | Link to this

Bobby Cox clearly isn’t the problem guys.

By Robert S

July 20, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

“QUITTERS all of you!!! Colorado could have mailed it in last year �- Houston could have done it also a few years back!!! The Yankees of 77 with Bucky Dent overcame more in a tough Division It ain�t over til it�s over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Umm, excuse me R1U, but it is over. The Braves have little that even remotely resembles the kind of talent the 2007 Rockies or the 2005 Astros had.

The Rockies had Todd Helton, Garrett Atkins, Troy Tulowitzki, Matt Holliday, and Brad Hawpe.

The Astros had Lance Berkman, Craig Biggio, Morgan Ensberg (before he imploded), Jason Lane, Roger Clemens, Andy Pettitte, and Roy Oswalt.

And the Yankees? Need I mention the multitude of talent they had?

The Braves have McCann, Chipper, sometimes Jurrjens, sometimes Hudson, and sometimes Teixeira.

The Braves also have a wide array of also-rans, mediocre prospects, and rejects from other teams. They sometimes play well.

“Sometimes” won’t win you anything. The ‘05 Astros and ‘07 Rockies had a fire in their bellies that the Braves lack. The Yankees of ‘77 simply began to play to their ability. They had the talent and they knew it.

These clowns in Atlanta don’t. They are imposters, wearing a uniform that has been denigrated by three years of utter mediocrity which is rapidly turning into tragedy. They are led by a manager who makes more head shaking decisions (just like inserting Corky Miller into the lineup today) than any manager who still has a job, not to mention his wits.

These imposters are weighed down by their own lack of talent and the bloated expectations placed on them year after year. In the past, the Braves had the talent to cover up their weaknesses, but no more.

The Braves, simply put, are the Greg Norman of baseball, playing not to lose instead of playing to win.

And they won’t win this year either. Reality check, please!!!!

By middleagedwhiteguy

July 20, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

The good news is that the Braves scored 6 runs. The bad news is they gave up 15.

By BravesGone

July 20, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this

The Braves are toast—-they need to get rid of the old, out of touch Bobby cox and start spending big money on good players. Their roster is filled with outs and injuries. Bring Ted Turner back as owner and start spending money like the Mets and Phillies. Right now, the braves are a mediocre team, and will finish 4th in the division.

By Ted Turner

July 20, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

I brought great baseball to this town as I promised. Though many of you don’t agree it was Bobby Cox who made it come to fruition. He worked with the scouting and the general manager before leaving when he put all in place. Then he agreed to come back and be the field manager to lead it. Set up the greatest organization in baseball with a great minor league system.

In recent years they have gotten away from the basics. They’ve robbed the minors again and again for washed up veterans. When the players do pan out they can’t afford to keep them because they are free agents and have no loyalty to an organization that no longer has a loyalty to them.

The trade for Tex was one of the worst in the organization’s history. The Braves gave away much too much. The only thing that can make that deal worse is to let him walk away at the end of the season without anything in return. No, I am not talking about letting Boras put us in a financial strain for a player who has shown little. For the entire year he “is about to get on a hot streak”. If he was such a threat Chipper would not walk so much. He can hit half as much as Chipper and have twice as many RBIs because all year he has had someone on ahead of him…Guess who? Please get whatever we can for him NOW!

As for Chipper, what more does a player have to do? He should end his career as a Brave and hopefully that will not be soon. Some of you would not recognize greatness if it hit you in the head.

By Nola

July 20, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this

I have to agree with those who say Bobby has to go. He has been a good manager through the years, but now he is not the manager we need. He continues to make wrong pitching decisions. Coming off the all star break of 4 days, you should start your best pitcher, but Hudson still has not pitched and here we are 3 games into the rest of the season. He continues to pitch Bennett and Boyer who don’t have it. Carlyle, with a good ERA sits on the bench. Today, Reys gives up 5 runs, and here comes Carlyle when the games over. Too late. Bobby has no sense of urgency. Season over.

By Paul W

July 20, 2008 11:17 PM | Link to this

DEAD as a doornail. With Escobar hurting, the Braves on the field today were a minor league team with the exception of Chipper, Tex and McCann. Tex wants the money- without some sort of discount to stay, I ship him for anything we can get. I differ from amny on here in that I thing we have some young arms with potential- it just won’t be this year, probably not next.

Chipper Jones IS the Atlanta Braves, but he must hate coming to work with this team. I would NEVER choose to let him go, but if he wants to go to a winner, I would accomodate him, because he has earned it. It don’t think we will be back in serious contention during his career. I hope he prefers to stay, though.

Our only core position players remaining right now are Escobar and McCann. Other than them and Chipper, everybody else is on the block.

Post script- it is a crying shame that Jeff F. was brought back up so soon- he apparently learned NOTHING. If nothing else, he needed some humility, but the quick round-trip prevented that.

By Loren

July 20, 2008 11:18 PM | Link to this

When will everyone involved with the Braves organization stop trying to convince people that they have a contending team every year at the end of spring training? True, the idea behind any business is to make money, but another key to any business should be to produce a quality product. When was the last time this truly was the case with Atlanta? As a Braves fan for the last 30+ years, this seems to be the trend that I see developing at any rate. Signing former aging Braves free agents was not the answer this year. Hoping that someone who has not pitched for two years was not the answer either. It seems they need to unload some salary and start to re-build. Again.

By HockeyDawg

July 20, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this

Sorry to sound like a broken record, but yes, they’re done. They’ve shown absolutely no reason to believe this Braves team can put together the type of extended hot streak that would be necessary to make the playoffs from where we sit right now. And even if we were to somehow sneak into the playoffs, we don’t have enough strength at the top of the rotation to go anywhere in the postseason.

Terence Moore is an idiot, and proved it with his article encouraging the Braves to hang on to Tex. They absolutely should trade Tex to start rebuilding for the future. If we hold on to him, we’d still have to offer him arbitration in order to get draft picks for him when he leaves, and Boras has already burned us once at that game w/ Maddux. But with his salary and Hampton’s coming off the books next year, we should have considerable flexibility with the payroll to add a few veterans, which are sorely needed on this very young team.

As disappointing as this year has been, all hope is not lost. We’ve got a good core to build around for the future - B-Mac, JJ, Kelly, Escobar, Morton, & Frenchy (provided he ever gets a good hitting coach), plus Chipper, Huddy, & hopefully one more year from Smoltzie. So if we can get a couple of good young prospects for Tex to add to these guys, hopefully we’ll be able to bounce back strong and make a run in ‘09…

By ATLER

July 20, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this

The Braves are a bunch of plain jane good ole boys. We need to get some players with some attitude in here so we can win again. Stop shopping in Gwinnette Co. and Liburn. Let’s go and get some exciting player. Perhaps a black player or two if the Braves don’t mind. Add a little color and brighten up the team.

By ashley

July 20, 2008 11:45 PM | Link to this

It’s a sad commentary for the Braves when the FORMER Braves on the Nationals team do better than we do: Ryan L., Willie Harris, and Odellis Perez.

By Ted Turner

July 20, 2008 11:55 PM | Link to this

God bless John Smoltz, but any of you who think he will come back and be the pitcher of old are drinking the preseason Kool-aid. It will not be because he won’t bust his butt trying, but age and surgeries have prevented another miracle.

Agree that Francoeur should have stayed in the minors much longer. He did not learn a thing and have to agree with a previous blogger that it would have been good for his humility.

Maybe Hampton can get out of uniform and the Braves dugout. His psychological problems are a disease to the team.

By the way Vonshawn, who is going to give us 2 first round draft picks if they get Tex through free agency? Who has 2 first round draft picks? Do you have to trade for another first round draft pick before you can sign a free agent just so you can give them away? Think not!

At least we’ll get a high round pick this year after this season. Please go back and look at how I did it from the ground level up.

By Joe

July 21, 2008 12:01 AM | Link to this

What you people are missing is Atlanta is clearly not a baseball city anyway. I remember going to a braves game and it people looked not interested in the game it was just something to do Atlanta is a football town point blank If Arthur Blank owned the braves they would be doing really good cause he would spend the money to make them a good product.

Fire Bobby Cox and Hire Terry Pendleton as the coach.

By die hard braves fan.

July 21, 2008 12:19 AM | Link to this

No we still got this.

By tj

July 21, 2008 12:21 AM | Link to this

Nola: Hudson did pitch the first game after the all star break. He got the only win against the Nats. And he was not all that shrp either. And Bobby has not run Bennett out there lately, he’s been on the DL since well before the break. Paul W: You are right about the team on the field today. Just one thing, McCann was not on the field, he didn’t play today. This whole year has been a lot like 2005 when Bobby had to use, I believe it was 18 rookies.

By mamie

July 21, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this

braves….please hire strong American Black players…like hank aaron

By jeremy

July 21, 2008 12:29 AM | Link to this

done, look at the mets and phillies, their rosters are better.

tho we have underachieved.

By justafan

July 21, 2008 12:35 AM | Link to this

Atlantarama you are the Idiot for wanting to keep Booby Cox, don’t you watch the damn games?

tj the Braves don’t change Mgr. every year, where you been the last 20 years?

Bobby’s Glory days have passed him by. It comes a time when everyone has to move on, now’s the time for Cox to retire and go out like a man. Some people just don’t know when to quit.

Trade Frenchy,the big baby, Bobby’s home boy.

Trade Tex for the best deal you can get.

Corky, Norton and the pass 40 age group must go. Plus 4 or 5 more.

Fire the coaching staff and let new Mgr. pick his coaches.

Stop signing others teams rejects.(junk yard)

Get rid of the attitude that your shi@ don’t stick because it does. esp. management.

Its time to go first class and give the fans what they pay for. Talks cheap and fans tired of promises. BS don’t get it, do you really believe the fans believe Cox’s BS.

We need new Blood, New Life, New Mgr. GET IT! I don’t believe you do.

I/m not a fair weather fan..I missed 4 games at home in 8 years period but I will not pay to watch another Bobby Cox managed team or game. That nut has lost it.Damn Wrens open your eyes.

By Oz

July 21, 2008 12:41 AM | Link to this

Ted, is that really you?

We need YOU back!

By Train Wreck Bystander

July 21, 2008 12:45 AM | Link to this

I agree - the lineup as it is will not contend for post-season glory.

What do we need? Bats.

We have one of the best second-half hitters in all of baseball with Tex. And I submit that we won’t get a lot for him from any team - no one is going overboard for two months of service. There’s not a lot to be gained by shopping him.

I say let’s keep Tex until season’s end. We’ve already paid for him in prospects - no time now for buyer’s remorse. Scrape up some money out of the sofa cushions and get a bat for the outfield. Wouldn’t Smoltz’s unclaimed incentive money be available for that?

I’d like to see the Braves sign Tex after the end of the year. I realize that’s easy for me to say as a fan, as I am not the one signing the checks. The guy does produce.

Send Frenchy to AA and let him season for a while, because it’s obvious he’s still broken offensively and defensively. Give him a chance to grow into a better player for next year.

This pitching staff has some good young arms, despite the recent few games. The nucleus of a good rotation is here and just needs some experience.

By Thomas

July 21, 2008 12:48 AM | Link to this

I agree with a lot of you on a lot of points. I have to say, though, that I want to see Bobby Cox finish out his term. The highlight of the terrible game today for me was when Bobby went out there and defended his player (Buddy Carlyle) after that roided up umpire shook his finger at him for no reason. God bless Bobby Cox. I’d rather not have a Willie Randolph (stoic, enigmatic, emotionless, whatever you want to call it) manager. The team may not have desire and fire, but Bobby is still going after it. I do have to say that I don’t agree with his decision making sometimes (in his old age)—like putting in Bennett all the time—but he is doing pretty much the only thing a manager can do during a ballgame…keep his players in there and show them that someone has their backs.

By Roy Wood

July 21, 2008 12:59 AM | Link to this

Bobby cox is not the problem.Smoltz injury hurt.Hampton needs to be cut,I could never understand why they signed Glavin.See if they can trade Tex I know He will not stay.They can start getting ready for next Yr when you cant beat the Nats 2/3 in your own park hang it up.When TBS dropped the Braves i Was really mad now it doesnt seem so bad.(i cant get sports S.

By Bama

July 21, 2008 1:02 AM | Link to this

*Frank Wren, Why did you trade for Josh Anderson? *You and BC didn’t give the guy a chance to play and your OF sucks big time . Viva La Frenchy is the joke of the league. Josh is better than what you’re playing. Bet on it.

By tj

July 21, 2008 1:12 AM | Link to this

Justafan I don’t think I said the Braves change managers every year. And to answer your question, as I said, I’ve been watching the Braves since they came to Atlanta. That’s a little more than 20 years. I understand we picked up a lot of new fans around the early 90’s, and some are a little spoiled. Go back to 1966 and see how many managers the Braves had before Bobby went back on the field. Lot’s of teams change managers pretty regular and it usually doesn’t help a whole lot.I’m not saying never and that it never works. It absolutely does. But with the lack of talent on this team and the way most have performed firing a Hall Of Fame manager is not the answer.

By ChrisfromSacramento

July 21, 2008 2:09 AM | Link to this

This team has broken my heart the most. Alot of people picked the Braves to win the World Series. Look at them. Since Johnson dropped that popup against the Phils in June they have been the BAD NEWS BEARS. Chipper was not going to be the only one who was doing anything all year. Injuries killed them. But, you have to find a way to overcome them. They have really taken a step back. Where are the days of our farm system having great young pitchers. HOME GROWN. We need to get back to that. All, i have to look forward to is watching Chipper hit.

Seriously trade Tex and Ohman. Maybe Kotsay as well if someone wants him. I would not be sad to see Hudson get traded. We need to really start over. Mccann and Escobar and yes Jeff are a good place to start. Let Chipper play as long as he wants. Bring up Jason Heyward next year and start things over. It is time. It is hard for me to forget and move on past the 14 divison titles. But it is time.

When we trade Tex. Please WREN get top dollar prospects for him. Not B prospects But A prospects.

God this team has been heart breaking.

By Gerald

July 21, 2008 2:13 AM | Link to this

Can’t believe Bobby hasn’t been fired before now. Instead, he is given a year’s extension to honor his mediocre teams of these last few years! And each year they get worse. This team is so low they would have to look up to see a dime. Other teams are winning with power: doubles, triples & lots of home runs. This team can only hit singles and then can’t put together enough of them to score any runs! This is the worst power hitting team I have ever known the Braves to have. The pitching has pretty much carried this team so far but you can’t win without scoring runs. I can see a lot of shutouts thrown at the Braves yet to come. Bobby Cox MUST go!

By Happy Marlins Fan

July 21, 2008 2:14 AM | Link to this

Wave Bye Bye to the Braves. The Marlins are going to win it all.

By Mitch

July 21, 2008 2:31 AM | Link to this

The Braves are done for 2008, surely. Smoltz is gone for the year. Hampton probably wont be back. Heaven only knows if or when Glavine will come back. We have Jair and Hudson, and nothing else pitching wise. If not for Chipper, this team would be buried in the cellar.

I would trade Tex now. They say it’s “Giving up on the season”, but even if we cut Mike Hampton’s 15 mil after the season, Boras will never let Tex sign with us. I say, let’s get what we can for Tex, and look to next year. This team has some major question marks after the season, because, except for Hudson and Jair, we really have no pitching. Smoltz’s career may be over, and what can we expect from Tom in 2009 at age 43 even if he plays? Is he worth 8 to 10 mil?

I hope we trade Tex. It would be a pity to keep him, when we are in this position in late July, with no chance, and to see him walk after the season to get nothing in return.

Mitch

By jayvee

July 21, 2008 3:24 AM | Link to this

I say it’s time to tear this franchise apart and start over again. Start by getting a couple of corner outfielders. One must be a true leadoff man. The other must ACTUALLY HIT WITH RISP. Move McCann to first and get a clutch-hitting catcher. Freed from the wear-and-tear of catching, McCann could hit 40 homers and drive in 120 runs. Or move Chipper to first and give Lilibridge a shot at third. Keep Kelly Johnson and Yunel and, of course, Chipper. The Bravos should move Texiera and Francouer and get some prospects.

By Nahjay Davnpoop

July 21, 2008 4:01 AM | Link to this

trade tex, chipper, yunel, kelly, mccann, frenchy, kotsay, diaz, norton, hudson, smoltz, soriano, m.gonzalez, carlyle, boyer, ohman, k.johnson, corky, omar, lillibridge, prado, blanco, gotay, j.anderson, b.jones, moylan, hampton, morton, jurrjens, jojo, c.james and tavarez, then fire bobby, mcdowell, pendleton, hubbard, wren and schuerholz because the braves have, and always will SUCK.

all this “success” and the only ring to show for it came the year after the strike when no one gave a ** about baseball.

By TNJeff

July 21, 2008 4:44 AM | Link to this

done? I didn’t know they had started?

By Dumbing Down

July 21, 2008 5:33 AM | Link to this

WHO IS THIS MCGUIRK GUY? WHAT DOES HE SAY?

By marc

July 21, 2008 5:59 AM | Link to this

were done and so is frenchy

By kyle

July 21, 2008 6:04 AM | Link to this

Trade for Matt Holiday-keep Tex-let’s go for it! 50 mill drops after the season anyway

By glenn

July 21, 2008 6:05 AM | Link to this

There is something flawed about this team. They just do not respond to each other. Let’s break them up and start over next year.

By Cody Ross

July 21, 2008 6:13 AM | Link to this

go marlins, go gators.

By Gary

July 21, 2008 6:35 AM | Link to this

what a trainwreck of a team

By jedclampette

July 21, 2008 6:43 AM | Link to this

This is why Atlanta and Braves,Falcon,Hawks,Thrashers fans stick like s*&^$!!!!!abge What fan loyality and the Braves won 14 consec years and still did not fill Turners stadium. Trade Chipper,fire Cox,fire Pendelton, fire McDowell, trade Jurgens, quit support the dang team when they win losers.

Mike Vick go to jail and Atlanta fans abandon him.

LoserVille…………..

By Tim Scott

July 21, 2008 7:06 AM | Link to this

TIME TO PUT THE GARAGE SALE SIGN OUT. UP FIRST TEX GET WHAT YOU CAN..SECONDLY GET CHIPPER FITTED FOR A FIRST BASEMENS MIT. FRENCHY I THINK A CHANGE OF VENUE WOULD DO YOU GOOD I WOULD USE HIM FOR BAIT. GALVINE THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES. MATT DIAZ ITS BEEN FUN AND YOU TOO KOTSAY. OH BY THE CORKY WILL CLOSE THE DOOR WHEN YOU AND PENDLETON LEAVE THANK YOU. THE FUTURE IS SO BRIGHT WE HAVE TO WEAR SHADES.

By northfan

July 21, 2008 7:43 AM | Link to this

Sign Tex or trade him now,I agree with the dump Pendleton sentiment, but Cox too? Are you high? The only reason we’ve had a sniff of 1st the last 3 yrs is because of Bobby! Hampton is a money pit, Glavine is done-we don’t owe him loyalty. Frenchy wants superstar money for 1 yr of production, Smoltz,Chip,McCann, Escobar, Jurgens,Hudson stay-everyone else is fair game. Don’t wait-sell now!

By alan from Atlanta GA.

July 21, 2008 7:49 AM | Link to this

When are the braves ajc sportswriters and braves announcers stop going to be shills for a team that is LOUSY. everyone comes up with excuses for them. Jo Jo Reyes has got to be an example of that. He is THE leading candidate for the albie lopez pitching award. The announcers talk about the great job McDowell is doing ha pitching coach. To paraphrase Tom Cruise, Show me the results. They have a terrible staff. Why are there so many injuries? If it weren’t for Jair Jurgens, it would be worse. Even if Hudson throws a good game, he gets no offense. Speaking of offense why is TP still hitting coach? In most other cities watching the a team fall apart, the fans would be in an uproar. Look at the mets. The braves have not played above .500 going on 3 yrs. and the fans are silent. It’s time to make changes in the team mgmt. Even the 2for1 tickets should be rejected until we get a contender again. BOYCOTT

By kevin

July 21, 2008 7:55 AM | Link to this

**this text will be bolded” Well u remember chipper jones sayin we need to sweep Nationals n fla n phillies for shot well that went down toilet…I seen worst show of players since the players strike in 1994…Its time change fire TP now n bobby cox now i not care if he depend his player goody..Lets see him get mad and lecture his dam players out….in clubhouse we should had bean a player get a fight show we just Mad at self/…But alas we scared to fight we need new leader n jones is not one!

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

July 21, 2008 8:01 AM | Link to this

The Braves have little chance of rising to tthe top of the division. They do, however, have a shot at falling to the cellar and I think they’ll make it with no problems. They are not a good team and they, seemingly, are becoming less good everyday. It’s time to realize it and move Tex for some good future players. Tes is not enough to win here.

By Ronald Millsaps

July 21, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this

Are the Braves done? Absolutely not! They’re only 6.5 games out of first with a long time to go. To say that they’re out of the picture is to make a premature statement based on the most shallow of “evidence.”

If the team doesn’t make adjustments, though (I’m not referring to a trade), I see this team missing the playoffs again.

There’s absolutely no justification for why this team, even with the injuries, doesn’t have more wins. Again, I don’t understand the lack of aggression and the lack of pursuit for the right formula.

I still don’t understand why Kelly Johnson has batted high in the order almost all season. I don’t see why Bobby has been patient with his struggles but very impatient with using him lower in the order, or so it seems. Yes, Yunel Escobar has been out, but Mark Kotsay would fit the “two” hole better than Johnson, who should be batting eighth.

Even the defense has been porous, which is a surprise, seeing as how the pitching and defense on these teams are usually locks.

I hope Mark Teixeira’s blasts yesterday are the result of his getting his swing back.

Pete Van Wieren talked about how being 6.5 games out of first is not as big a problem as being in fourth place. I disagree. If we were talking about the wild-card race, I agree, but against divisional opponents, you’re much more in the driver’s seat due simply to the head-to-head matchups.

If the Phillies trade for Matt Holliday, they very well might hurt themselves. I don’t think he’d be good for their offensive chemistry. I really think they should keep Shane Victorino and not change a thing. I sat at Turner Field on July 1 and thought what I’ve been thinking more and more as time goes along since 2005: “They execute; we don’t.”

I question the overall substance of this team and Bobby’s lack of adjustments. Mark Lemke, Jeff Blauser, etc. knew how to execute; the execution on this team needs some work. So does the preparation.

I’m glad for Willie Harris, Ryan Langerhans, etc..

By jksteacher

July 21, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

We can still make it. All we need is a healthy Glavine, Smoltz, and Hamilton and we’ll… oh… wait….

By LEONIDAS

July 21, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

This is ATLANTA!!! We will never quit!!!

By Apollo from Argentina

July 21, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this

I live in D.C. and follow the Nationals. They are probably the worst major league team in the past 15 years. That should give the Braves some perspective regarding their chances to finish above .500. As for going to the playoffs, the Braves ship sailed several years ago.

By Jack

July 21, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this

Completely through. Completely unwatchable. All my t-shirts are now dustrags. Bring on football.

By awinters3

July 21, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this

Now is a good time to get rid of Bobby Cox and make a run at freddie gonzalez of the marlins. Hes doing a great job of molding young talent and Bobby can only get so much out of a player yelling” cmon kid” he has no fire , its time for a Lou Pinella outburst.

By L-Roy

July 21, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

I don’t think it’s over. I believe the Phillies and Marlins will go through a huge slump and we will catch up. We DON’T need to sell yet, we NEED some right handed power, then maybe we can stop leaving those runs out on base.

By lin

July 21, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

i said b4 april braves end up in 3rd well now maybe 4th but no highter then 3rd. yes lot medical problems also do not help but time for a new boss.also hitting coach etc. fresh ideas is needed. then again some good trades also. i read about month ago or few weeks ago tex wants to stay one more year. well not sure that work unless he gets better start first half of season. frenchy needs go or u got another andruw jones. is there really any solid spot there right now?chipper well thats open book. he not in his grove right now.he soon need retire. i would not be suprised if galvine and smoltz retire together end season.and maddix over there join them. hampy let him go please.keep some these young guys they will imporve.

By opie south

July 21, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

The Braves are 6.5 games out. The Yankees are 4.5 games out and trying to make moves to win like signing Sexson. That is only 2 games even though different leagues. The difference is pride. The Yankee organization does not accept defeat very well. They want to win and will make moves until they are elimated. Most here want to just give up and can only be critical of players that are giving all they have even if all they have is not enough due to non support of management. Some said trade Chipper. That is stupid. I wonder how many who are so critical could do any better. If so call them and tell them you can hit and volunteer to play right field! I watched them before they started winning and will continue to as I am not a quitter. It is easy to support a first place team. Very easy.

By Joe

July 21, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

I am waiting on Hampton to finally pitch and maybe he can save the Braves. Or he should hang it up and let his salary be used for some good pitchers. Joe

By Borat Obama

July 21, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this

Not ONLY is Atlanta a sorry sports city, by what I’ve read of these posts, Atlanta also has the most ignorant sports fans, and I use the term fan loosely.

By D.Ellis

July 21, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this

This team sucks. I will watch them. I will pull for them as I have for years. But this team SUCKS. They are top 6 worse teams in MLB. I used to get bashed on here for calling them a .500 ball club around the All Star break of last year. Now they are proving me wrong. They aren’t even a .500 ball club anymore. Man this team hot garbage. There are no quick fixes. There is no trade looming to save the team. Burn down the roster. Start fresh and build it back up for the next run. Top to bottom. Only players I would keep:

Chipper

Gonzalez

Escobar

J.J.

Campillio

Tex

McCann

Thats it

By Borat Obama

July 21, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

opie south, your a dumba$$.

By Borat Obama

July 21, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

opie south, you’re a dumba$$.

By Donovan

July 21, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this

No championships will be had with what we now have. Start at the top. Fire Cox and Pendleton. Release old pitching and crippled pitching. Send down or trade the worthless young pitchers like Reyes. Go to the Marlins and learn how they continue to win with nobody.

By TJ

July 21, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

They’re done. It’s time to trade Texiera while we can still get something for him

By Otis Leroys

July 21, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

Give the team some high levels of vitamin C and E. The team has tried everything else, maybe this will finally work.

If the above doesn’t work, then take the whole team and swap places with the Mississippi Braves and we will see what happens then.

By Borat Obama

July 21, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

Waiting on Hampton to pitch?! Joe, THAT statement alone officially makes you a dumba$$.

By Big Daddy #21

July 21, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

Looks like they are done. This team does not seem to have a heart. There is no true leadership on this team. Say what you will about Chipper Jones, he’s a good player, but he shows no emotion.

By scott

July 21, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

yes the braves are done and i am tired of watching all these white overrated underachivers player on the braves . it’s time to clean house starting with bobby cox , I LOVE THE BRAVE BUT THEY REALLY SUCK

By Artie

July 21, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

Most definitely!!!!!

By Ed Lyons

July 21, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

I Guess we are sellers!

By jokurone

July 21, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

the Atlanta curse strikes again, former players who we deemed not worthy come back and kick our a*.I am really tired of all the pre-season hoopla about how we look on paper and then find aout we really are paper tigers. I’m done. in plain English the Braves SUCK!

By Tone

July 21, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

The Braves brought back Glavine and extended Cox’s contract. They havent had any real intentions on making it to the World Series in years. Yet I still pay to see them.

By GAKnight

July 21, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

It has been time to make some serious changes for a couple of years. I wouldn’t trade Teixeira, however. He’s young, has been performing well, and you have to pay somebody if you want a great team.

Hopefully, Hampton will be coaching at the AA level for some team, Smoltz and Glavine will be playing gold, FULL TIME. Trade Hudson if you want to get rid of some salary. He’s nothing more than a number three or four starter for most teams. The olny OFF LIMITS players should be McCann, Blanco and Escobar. Everyone else, is on the market!

By GAKnight

July 21, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

It has been time to make some serious changes for a couple of years. I wouldn’t trade Teixeira, however. He’s young, has been performing well, and you have to pay somebody if you want a great team.

Hopefully, Hampton will be coaching at the AA level for some team, Smoltz and Glavine will be playing golf, FULL TIME. Trade Hudson if you want to get rid of some salary. He’s nothing more than a number three or four starter for most teams. The only OFF LIMITS players should be McCann, Blanco and Escobar. Everyone else, is on the market!

By Peter

July 21, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

It would be great to get a few MORE major league players than the hand full we have !

By North

July 21, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

The team the Braves fielded this year wasnt a BAD team.Even with all the injuries they suffered,they were still in position to win a good bit of the games they lost.You cant expect to win when you dont hit with RISP and the bullpen blows leads or puts close games out of reach.They just need to re-evalutate and start this thing over.This year looks like a done deal.

By no hope

July 21, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

The braves are done, so is Bobby Cox, Pendleton & lets get something for Teixeira. Its time to cut our losses and plan for next year. The braves are Boring!!!

By A true Braves Fan

July 21, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

I would still rather watch the Braves lose than watch New York or Boston play.I wish they would keep their Yankee lovin umps where they belong also.

By no hope

July 21, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

The braves are done, so is Bobby Cox, Pendleton & lets get something for Teixeira. Its time to cut our losses and plan for next year. The braves are Boring!!!

By Phil

July 21, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

We were done at the break. Getting destroyed by a bad Washington team to start the 2nd half only confirms that.

It’s way past time for Moron Cox to go, he is bringing us down more and more the longer he stays. Next year we may finish in dead last.

By David

July 21, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

Ted Turner really caused our demise. When he sold the team to Time Warner they stop getting the top players because of the cost. When a corporation buys a company, all they care about is profit. We have a bunch of retreads. That was why John retired.

By mark

July 21, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

awful is the word..loose to worst team in nl..lok at nats they have no players..its time for cox to clean his cleats and put them away..we need new blood doesnt mean mr cox is a bad guy its time for change all the way from top down

By max

July 21, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT WE TRADE CHIPPER YOU ARE A RETARD!!!!!!!!HE HAS BEEN LOYAL TO US HIS WHOLE CAREER. HE HAS TAKEN PAT CUTS SO WE COULD SIGN GOOD PLAYERS. HE IS POSSIBLY THE BEST PLAYER TO EVER PLAY IN A BRAVES UNIFORM.

THE ONLY REASON WE HAD A HORRIBLE SEASON IS BECAUSE EVERYONE THOUGHT THAT GLAVINE AND HAMPTON WOULD SAVE US. HOW COULD ANY OF US THINK THIS. I THINK GLAVINE IS CLOSE TO 100 YEARS. HAMPTON WOULD PROBABLY GET INJURED BY JUST WALKING A DOG. TRADE TEX TO THE RED SOX TO GET SOME GOOD YOUNG PROSPECTS. IF WE TRADED FRANCOEUR THE BRAVES WOULD LOSE 45% OF THEIR FAN BASE AND THE BRAVES ARENT WILLING TO DO THAT.

I WOULD PUT HUDSON OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT OFFERS WE COULD GET FOR HIM. IF WE DONT GET ANYTHING GOOD LET HIM STAY BUT IF WE GET GOOD OFFERS LET HIM GO.

LETS FACE IT CHIPPER, MCCANN AND JURRJENS ARE THE FUTURE OF THIS FRANCHISE. ESCOBAR AND JOHNSON HAVE TALENT THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED INTO GREAT TALENT AND WE ALL KNOW THAT TERRY PENDLETON IS CAPABLE OF IT.**

By You got to be kidding me

July 21, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

Come on people… we have not made the post season in 3 years and we are not going to make it again! Quit living in the 14 year run and understand we are not getting better but getting worse! We did not just get beat by the worst team in baseball… WE ARE THE WORST TEAM IN BASEBALL!

By VaBravesfan

July 21, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

I hate to admit it, but the Braves are done. The talent level is just not enough to win a division or a playoff. Chipper, Texiera, McCann, Tim Hudson and perhaps Escobar are top shelf players. Johnson, Kotsay and Norton are average at best. Blanco and Prado are AAA players. Francouer is well documented so we won’t even go there. With the exception of Hudson and Jair Jurjens the starting pitching is aweful. Although Campillo has been pretty effective at times. Wll Ohman and Gonzales have been good, the rest of the bullpen has caused the stock of Maalox to triple in value. I am a lifetime Braves fan, and starting with the 18th iniing homerun at Houston, the last few years have been painful to watch.

By You got to be kidding me

July 21, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Oh and for all you Bobby Cox apologists… give me one example in the postseason when he made a brilliant managerial decision and I will give you 10 when he screwed the pooch! 14 years and only one title…that is pathetic!

By Ryan

July 21, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

If I were the braves, the first thing I would do is remove “BEACH” from their uniforms. This season is a disgrace to Beauchamp and should not be dedicated to him.

By Bama

July 21, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Max Where the he!! are you coming from…Braves would lose 45% of fan base for Frenchy? What are you smoking? TP is a F#@$% joke! * Yes Hoss is the man.* Please don’t us CAPS.

TEX said, “Business is Business. Sometimes things have to change.” I agree and its time for Wrens to ask Cox to step down and take TP with him.

45% of Fan base? Man you’re in another world.

By ATLbravo

July 21, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Bring back Pete Orr.

By Tami

July 21, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

My first initial thoughts of yesterday’s game when I saw the Braves were on the verge of the eventual scoring slaughter was “uh-oh..they’re done”. I still can’t understand how they can beat the Padres as they did but couldn’t beat the Nats, who are cellar-dwelling in the division. The Braves’ roster consists of those who are supposed to be MUCH better than this. The only thing I haven’t been comfortable about is the starting pitching. I was hoping that it wouldn’t come down to this, but maybe Wren does need to put Tex on the trading block after all in exchange for starting pitching prospects. I’d be very surprised IF Smoltz & Hampton are back next season. I think they both may be done, and Glav’s not far behind them. Which leaves a young & developing pitching staff. That equates to possibly much of the same next season. Believe me…I’d love to be proven wrong on this.

By You got to be kidding me

July 21, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

No the braves are not done! We are not last yet! There are still many games to lose and have our senile, wife beating manager thrown out of games! I’ve heard a rumor that we have contacted Bob Horner because we are all about retreads!

By gene

July 21, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Worst display of baseball I’ve seen in a while.

No one bunts or even fakes it. Everyone except the rookie Lillbridge seems care.

I watched some of the RedSox / LAA game. They play fundamental baseball. That’s why they are and will be in the playoffs.

Cox always has and always will play long ball - that’s exciting to watch but it hardly wins games anymore. So Wren signs him to 2 more years?

Trade em all - pay ‘em minimum salaries an give them huge bonus if they make the playoffs..just look at Tampa Bay..until then Braves are way overpriced.

By gene

July 21, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Worst display of baseball I’ve seen in a while.

No one bunts or even fakes it. Everyone except the rookie Lillbridge seems care.

I watched some of the RedSox / LAA game. They play fundamental baseball. That’s why they are and will be in the playoffs.

Cox always has and always will play long ball - that’s exciting to watch but it hardly wins games anymore. So Wren signs him to 2 more years?

Trade em all - pay ‘em minimum salaries an give them huge bonus if they make the playoffs..just look at Tampa Bay..until then Braves are way overpriced.

By BUSHWACKER

July 21, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

The Braves are a bunch of gutless spoiled brats.

Call me back when they fire Bobby and hire PETE ROSE to light a fire under therwe lazy butts.

By cursive

July 21, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Finished. This is what happens when you mortgage your future with too many old, old players that you are relying as key players. We may have set ourselves back 5 years. Time for Bobby to go, time for TP to go, time for Texeira to go and time to bring in some new blood.

By Lance

July 21, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Bobby Cox shoulda been fired a long time ago

By AtlMike

July 21, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Tex is not worth anything. He is way overrated and way overpaid. We paid too much for him. I don’t think anyone else would want him. The Braves are done.

By kpearce1

July 21, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Does Atlanta see now they shouldn’t have let Willie Harris go? At least the Nationals apprecaite him. Braves are done.

By justafan

July 21, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

If Bobby would get on his players the way he spits on umpires it would do more good. Fire Bobby Cox.

By Desert Dawg

July 21, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Braves only need to look at their history. Two things made this team successful. 1. Pitching and 2. Growing players in the minor leagues.

I thought we had learned our lesson about free agents but I guess that lesson must be relearned every decade or so (anyone remember Len Barker & Garry Matthews).

Get rid of the big salaries and put the money to work growing young prospects…especially pitchers. It might take some time but it is a proven method to reach the high plateau and stay there!

By Scoots

July 21, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Unless the Braves change their style of play immediately, they are done.

Steal bases, lay down bunts, play fired up, and for godsakes, get rid of Corky Miller the Rally Killer.

Next 6 against Philly and FLA - at this point, anything less than 5-1 means the Braves should immediately become sellers, and start stocking up young talent for next year.

I hate to say, because he’s one of the all-time best and he’s given Atlanta a great run, but I think the game has passed Mr. Cox by. With all the young talent that the Braves have, we need a guy with some energy to get these guys fired up.

By BRAVES TICKET OFFICE

July 21, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Uhm, no…. uhm…. we’re not “done,” per se. We’re on target! Yeah, that’s right! We’re on our way! We’re, uhm, doing just fine. Y’all come out to the ballpark and buy some tickets, eat a hotdog, have a beer, buy some Braves gear, and pay no attention to the 4 errors, awful pitching, embarassing offense, and gimpy players blowing bubbles in the dugout. Did you see Bobby Cox yesterday? Man he gets riled up! Come watch that!

By Ralph

July 21, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

It doesn’t matter what the Braves need, they aren’t going to do it. All year long, since their tail spin started, they have in plain English, or whatever language you want to use, a tired team to watch, they leave too many men on base, they strike out to much, and make too many errors, and on and on. They are without a doubt, readable. The Braves say one thing and do another, you can’t belief what they say. They first thing the Brave should do is to release Hampton. How can one use a bunch of waste up players and be able to compete.

By charles corley

July 21, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Cox keeps p** in his pants and he needs to be wearing diapers. Between his filty mouth and p** in his pants, he needs to go.

By dorothy davis

July 21, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Doesn’t anyone get it? Cox is too old and out of touch to coach anymore! Even the team won’t play up to their ability for him anymore. Yes, he is a nice guy, but it’s time to admit Wren made a mistake signing him for 2 more years. Remember Willie? The Mets have come alive without him and the Braves need new blood at the helm, now. They are toast with him in control. For instance: he gives McCann a day off and puts in “Porky Miller” in a must win game. Need I say more? Come on Wren, do your job.

By Orvill

July 21, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Yes, if the Nationals mopped the floor with the Braves, there is no way for them to have a shot at the play-offs.The Braves simply can not compete with better teams as the Phillies and Mets.

By Jen

July 21, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

No pitching = toast.

Get some pitchers!

By Mike

July 21, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Braves drop 2 of 3 to the Nats. The Nats! Another great job by Cox. 2008 is over.

Look what has happened to NYM since they changed managers………………………..!

By southga brave

July 21, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

They are done and have been for a while now. Those that say we are ONLY 61/2 games out, you are right, but it so much hard being 6 out behind 4 teams than 10 out behind one team. The other thing is we have not played 500 baseball all year and now you would have to play 630 to catch THREE teams playing over 500. Yes there are head to head meeting but the other two could be winning and you would not gain any ground. If we were to win 2 of 3 in every series, and the other three were to lose 2 of 3 at the same time, it would only take 18 games to tie them. That is highly unlikely. Best case senerio if they alternate losing 2 of 3, it would take Atlanta 30 games to catch all three while winning 2 of 3, also not likely. So somewhere in the middle would be Altanta winns 38 and losses 22. NONE of the other three could do better than playing 500 ball (30-30). Anyone realisticly think all of a sudden all three stop playing 500 baseball? ANYONE think even with a major trade or addition, the Braves will play 633 baseball?

I have read here that tj thinks the season was lost to injuries. All teams have injuries and you have to overcome those. You can not depend on one or two players to carry you all season. It is a team sport and you need the other guys as well. This is not tennis or golf. Look at the injuries they have had. The only long term injuries are to Moylan, Smoltz, Glavin and Diaz that were supposed to be starters or major contributors. Diaz has never been an everyday player. The other 3 are pitchers and that honestly as not been the problem with ths team. Injuries happen to every team, ask Boston. Ortiz has been out a month. He is a major everyday player. J.D. Drew has hurt fir them also earlier in the year. In other words you have to have a way to pick up the slack. Yes the Braves have had a lot of guys come and go on the DL but nothing long term from the starters. Kotsay and Escobar are the longest and those are not long term. Don’t make an excuse for poor performance and decision making on injuries.

I also have read some of you say don’t blame Cox. You said he wasn’t to blame and then criticized his decision making, you can’t have it both ways. Well who made the decision to cut B. Pena and keep Corky Miller? Cox not Wren I assure you. Who decides in a must win game to start a catcher hitting like a pitcher instead of your all-star? Does Big MAC need a day off? He just had four and get another this week on Thursday. Maybe in another situation yea, but not when your season is on the line. For those of you that think Cox is a great manager and should stay tell me why, and no not because he lead a hall of fame pitching staff to the playoffs for years. He was out manages in the playoff games. Torre exposed him in every head to head game. If Torre can be let go by the Yankees and replaced so can Cox. If he were a CEO of any business he would be held accountable for his present results not his past accomplishments. How often do you hear this is a business when it comes to salary moves or trades. Tex said it yesterday on the possiblity of being traded. Believe it! Hold Cox accountable, yes he may be an above average manager but he is not the guy for the Braves. He will play favorites until the end. Ask Andrew Jones (yes I was a big fan of his his too), and see B Pena if he doesn’t. We could go on and on but a leader should be held accountable for his results, no excuses. Injuries maybe there are some but what about last year?

As for trades, we should begin to retool or rebuild depends on how you view it. There are players that will not be back next year, Hampton. Glavine, Tex (face reality) and possibly Smoltz. Three from injury and retire and one from money. This will free up close to 50 million dollars. Contrary to one statement here the Braves are paying a majority of Hamptons salary. Lords of Landon would not fully insure him for this or last year. Some have also suggested we trade Hudson, another 15 mil. That is 65 mil, and with the trade of Tex and Hudson we could possibly get another Jurjjens. What could the Braves do with 50-65 mil for free agents to go along with the players they get in trades? They must improve the bench and getter better in the starting lineup. Otherwise expect more of the same for years to come.

By Bobbymahlon

July 21, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

How come it was ok by the Simpson for Kearns to tag up at third and score in a run away game when last year Escobar got talked to about doing that same thing. Like I said before don’t make the same misstake we made when we let Andruw go for just about nothing, trade Tex as soon as possible and start building for next year. Clear the bench of the old timers and give the young prospects some experience.

By cpa

July 21, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Numerically speaking, they are still alive…that being said, GO PHILLIES!!!!!

By im4ball

July 21, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

It is obvious that some changes need to take place with the Braves.

I would start at the top. It is time for Cox to go. I have never been a fan of the “wait for a big hit” style of play….which is about the only style Cox can remember how to use. Cox is so one dimensional; the only way he can think of to motivate the team is to get himself thrown out of games. And you can tell by Sunday’s game how well that works.

It’s not that the Braves don’t need some different players but I would make the change at the top first and see how the players respond then go about restructuring the team.

By by johnny

July 21, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Just ———- brutal!!!!!! Why did i ever get mlb extra innings????? After all these years of lack of offense, they are still the same. Count all the one run games they have lost for their pitchers in the last ten years and you will get sick.

By braves70

July 21, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

I agree with others that the Braves have been done for the last 3 years. What we are seeing now is simply the final stages of complete death.

Bobby Cox really must step down or be fired. He should know that he has lost touch with this younger and more diverse group of players. I for one would love to see Terry Pendleton as the manager. I think he would add some fire and enthusiasm and would bring back some of the exciting speed game played by the Cardinals in the 80s under Whitey Herzog. I am sure that TP would be reacting differently to this group except that he works for Bobby Cox and must follow his policies.

It is also time for the Braves to move on to younger players. Look back at how young the Braves were in the early 90s. They finally let go of the past by trading Dale Murphy and cleared the way for the young stars. The same should be done now with Chipper, Tex, Hudson, Kotsay, and others. Glavine, Smoltz, and Hampton should be asked to retire.

Finally, I have little hope in the new owners or new management. I think they will dump the Braves as soon as possible. Frank Wren failed as GM in Baltimore and I see nothing that indicates that he has improved at all.

By Kenneth Simpson

July 21, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

To say the braves are pitiful is an understatement. To let a last place team beat them like Washington done yesterday should have put the nail in the coffin. I guess Bobby thought they might have a chance to win yesterday so he played Corky instead of McCann. If he is the best backup they have they are in worse shape than I thought they were. Try to unload Tex and at least try to get back some of the talent they gave up to rent him for one season. When I see Corky catching and think they gave away Salty it makes me sick to my stomach. Why is Terry Pendleton still around? The braves need a new manager, a new hitting coach and a trainer. Bring the young players up. I don’t think they could be any worse than what we have now. They need to tell Hampton to go home and try not to tweak anything riding home and accept the fact that Smoltz and Glavine have had their better days and go on from there.

By Peecee

July 21, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

Any other ballclub in the majors would have long ago “cleaned house”, but not the Braves! Bobby C has too many pictures that cannot be published and he is in like Flynn for eons to go. By the way, by my figures the “BC Book of Excuses” is now over 1,389 pages thick and the tome weighs over 14 lbs.! No more room for excuses. Get out the leaf blowers and start with Wren and go all the way to the bottom; start over and let’s hope ‘09 can show some improvement! Patrick

By Marty

July 21, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Move Tex now. Let’s start planning for next season. Gotta say not hatin’ the Tex for Kotchman rumors. Kotch is solid defensively, usually hits .300, model citizen, and under contract for couple more years. He’s a Braves type.

By RBrave

July 21, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Get a grip ! That bunch we got rid of has done nothing on a team with no pressure. they had “a good game” big deal. Langerhans has been sent down by the Nats several times. Harris had a good game. And that moron that keeps talking about adding black players, lets add good players! If a player of Aarons caliber were available he’d be playing. Grow up! The bunch we gave for Tex has done nothing that was just housecleaning.We are falling into the pit that the Cubs did. Trying to hang on the Wood and Pryer. Let the old guys go and really no Hampton. How in the world is Corky on any team ? That and how Pendleton is still there are my biggest questions. Go Braves and Chipper ! Come on fans quit wining show some support. We are done for this year but lets play hard and go down swinging, if we can’t win it lets at least spoil us some Mutts !

By Tucker

July 21, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

The Braves were an anomaly in the otherwise Loserville terrain of Atlanta professional sports. Now they fit in perfectly with the whole lot. It is a shame Bobby, Smoltzie, and Chipper have to be a part of this undoing in light of their contributions to a really amazing venture outside of Loserville.

By BravesInfo

July 21, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

They are on thin ice.

Chat about it today at 2 PM Eastern.

BravesInfo

By hank755

July 21, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Why should Cox and Pendelton be the first ones out the door? I’ll admit Cox has not had a great performance this year but he has earned the right to choose when he leaves. And Pendelton is not going anywhere. I think he will actually take over for Bobby after next year. The Braves performance this year is what it should be considering the injuries to the pitching staff and a so-so lineup.

By hank755

July 21, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Why should Cox and Pendelton be the first ones out the door? I’ll admit Cox has not had a great performance this year but he has earned the right to choose when he leaves. And Pendelton is not going anywhere. I think he will actually take over for Bobby after next year. The Braves performance this year is what it should be considering the injuries to the pitching staff and a so-so lineup.

By hank755

July 21, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Why should Cox and Pendelton be the first ones out the door? I’ll admit Cox has not had a great performance this year but he has earned the right to choose when he leaves. And Pendelton is not going anywhere. I think he will actually take over for Bobby after next year. The Braves performance this year is what it should be considering the injuries to the pitching staff and a so-so lineup.

By hank755

July 21, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Why should Cox and Pendelton be the first ones out the door? I’ll admit Cox has not had a great performance this year but he has earned the right to choose when he leaves. And Pendelton is not going anywhere. I think he will actually take over for Bobby after next year. The Braves performance this year is what it should be considering the injuries to the pitching staff and a so-so lineup.

By Bob

July 21, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

Maybe the AJC should start posting the Braves in the OBIT section instead of sports.

By Toby Cash

July 21, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

If the Braves do shop Tex now and get something, the current players will say that the Braves gave up to early, if you wait and get nothing for him(Boras will DEMAND tons of $$$) then the Braves will have lost again. I would see what is out there.

By ben

July 21, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

I think Bobby does much better as a manager when he has talent as good or better than other teams. Not much for fundamentals, just let them go out and play. With the younger players, he does not stress fundamentals enough and some should be on the pine when they don’t perform. Cox is very good about getting thrown out of games and this is protecting his players to some extent, but you also have to motivate them at times and he just doesn’t do a good job at that.

By ben

July 21, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

I think Bobby does much better as a manager when he has talent as good or better than other teams. Not much for fundamentals, just let them go out and play. With the younger players, he does not stress fundamentals enough and some should be on the pine when they don’t perform. Cox is very good about getting thrown out of games and this is protecting his players to some extent, but you also have to motivate them at times and he just doesn’t do a good job at that.

By BamaBrave

July 21, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Did JS get in the lifeboat at the right time, or what…

By Keith

July 21, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

We’re toast. First order of business ought to be to politely ask Bobby Cox to reconsider that 1 year extension. I love him, but we need new energy and focus. he’s too much of a player’s manager now for a team of youngsters who need to be scared once and while.

By BlackberryCobbler

July 21, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Get rid of Tex. He may want to stay, but a player who only plays good for 1/2 the season isn’t worth his kind of money. If he’s a “slow starter” and doesn’t play well until July, fine, pay him 1/2 the salary.

Be careful what we wish for…… a pitching staff of JJJ, JoJo, etc. doesn’t really portend well for next year.

If we’re going to give up talent, we better get talent in return.

By BDavis

July 21, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

No pitching. No offense. Sloppy play. The fat lady is at the mic.

By Navigator

July 21, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

How about Tex and Chipper for a large bounty of good young players. Both have proven that they alone cannot make the better, so go after long term solutions. At the end of the year dump all of the fat (too old and damaged players) that suck the life out the payroll, and keeps the braves from going after younger free agents. It makes no sense to keep thinking these old guys will will make the team better. Last, look for Cox’s replacement, as he will be gone sooner or later anyway. His age now makes him a liability to grow another successful team.

By BlackberryCobbler

July 21, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Get rid of Cox. Bring in Gonzalez from the Marlins.

By CRM

July 21, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

The problem with this Braves team is obvious to anyone who is paying close attention. It is one of attitude. Their attitude is that they don’t HATE losing. The great Braves teams of the early and mid 90s hated losing. You could see it in the way they approached the game. Everything about the way they played said “We’re not going to loose today.”. This bunch of Braves have no such fire in their bellies. They have no such determination to win. They have no such fighting spirit. It appears that they just don’t care. When your attitude is one of mediocrity, your performance will be very mediocre. What the Braves need most right now is some leadership. That is what the teams of the 90s had and what this team is completely lacking.

Trade all the players you want. Fire the manager. Fire the GM. Fire the hitting coach. Fire the head ticket-taker. Fire anyone you like. But until someone steps up and says “I’m going to lead this team and I won’t accept losing” then this team will be just what it is. Another baseball team that played 162 games and went nowhere.

By Disgusted

July 21, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

The Braves are done for the year, as they were for the last two to three years. They have gotten steadily worse and there seems to be no end in sight. It is time to clear out the dead wood. Get a back-up catcher who is not an automatic out every time he comes to the plate. Get some outfielders who can HIT, not strike out or hit into a DP with agonizing regularity, and some seasoned pitchers who are not just a few games past triple A level, and some presently pitching who could use more seasoning at that level.

This is a bad team as presently configured and there seems to be no leadership at the top. Bobby looked like a genius when he had Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz all those years. But since their usefulness waned, he has looked like any other struggling manager with a mediocre team. And the present hitting instructor either has nothing to work with, or is incapable of passing on the art of hitting to his instructees. Whatever the problem, a change at the top seems to be in order, and the quicker, the better. Forget this year, wheel and deal, and try to build a contender for the future. This year is already on the ash heap of baseball history and should not be a factor in doing whatever is necessary to make changes for the better. Get what you can for Tex before the deadline, go after some outfielders and pitchers and make some changes in management. The Mets did it and they seem to have profited by it. If these players cannot or will not play for anyone but Bobby, then get rid of them all and replace them with players who WANT to play and win. The fans are tired of excuses, they want results. We are not the Cubs and have no desire or patience to wait a hundred years for something to happen.

By stan

July 21, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Yes the Braves won a bunch of division titles especially in the 90’s but they won with the greatest pitching staff ever assembled. Those arms made Bobby look like a manager until going head to head with the big dawgs in the playoffs. It starts at the top. Give anybody Maddux Glavine Smoltz Avery Neagle etc and they do the same thing. Win in the playoffs and you are a great manager, until then volunteer at the boys ang girls clubs where you belong Booby.

By Perry

July 21, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

The Braves are absolutely done this year. All of their playoff hopes are tied up on high salaried worn out players sitting on the bench.

By BravesAreToast

July 21, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

The braves need to dump all these old has been pitchers (Glavine and Smoltz) and sign younger arms with promise. These guys are over the hill and are always hurt. Get rid of Cox and half the scouting staff, who apparently don’t have a clue what they are doing. I’m giving up my season tickets until real changes are made!

By Cully

July 21, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

This team is bad. It reminds me of the old 70’s and 80’s squads. Huddy is a solid top of the line starter but then we have kids and retreads.

In LF/CF/RF/SS/2B we have well below average production - I believe our SS and RF are going to be Ok but huge holes at the other 3 and only “wild optimism” would suggest we have any answers in LF/CF and 2B.

Went into the season with 3 OLD(two of whom were oft-injured)starters as the key to the staff.

A team could survive with a below average platoon in LF, or a high defense /low offense guy in CF - or a rookie at SS, or a below average 2b, etc but not all of them.

Bottom line is the GM’s have structured this team in a bad way and team needs help at way too many places.

Love Tex but we can’t afford him - get some prospects quick!!!

By Get Rid of COX!

July 21, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

As long as bobby cox is around, the braves will be unable to create runs and will get stuck in proverbial .500-ness.

Even when he had talent and was winning (91-97) he only won once. Time to wipe this guy off the field and get some new blood to this show.

By Jim

July 21, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

The only thing worse than the Braves right now is the owners. Do us all a favor and F.O. I hope they loose their @$$ until they put a good team out there.

By db

July 21, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

Of course they are done!

By Forgetit

July 21, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

Trade Tex NOW. Why on earth would he be disposed to re-sign with this group of losers when he can without question sign a huge contract with a contending team? I don’t blame him one bit, but we need to get something for him, if possible. Clean house and go after players who want to win and have the talent to do so. And look for new, fresh management that cah play small ball. This thing of replicating Earl Weaver of the old Baltimore Orioles - play for the three run homer inning - is fast getting old. New younger management might inspire these players to adjust their attitudes to believe they CAN win, not just show up.

By Rob

July 21, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

In response to A Realist, while it is not 1998, we do have Smoltz and Glavine (still) and that may be part of the problem. The team that won the NL that year ( the Padres) while still not good in 2008 dont have Kevin Brown, Jey Hamilton and Andy Ashby ( who?) on their pitching staffs still. Of the pitchers on teams who made the post season that year, only 7 of them are still playing (one of which ahs not pitched in 3 years and oh by the way is on the Braves roster, Mike Hampton) Its time to rebuild the pitching and not rely on the over 40 crowd anymore. I would rather remember Smoltz and Glavine from the 1998 season rather than ending their careers on the DL. If we are going to keep getting great 90’s players, Bonds is out there and could probably be had cheap. He loves Turner Field too.

By hank755

July 21, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Why all the negative comments about Bobby & TP? This team is exactly where they should be considering all the injuries to the pitching staff and a mediocre lineup. I’ll admit Cox has not had one of his better years managing, but he has earned the right to leave on his own terms. As far as TP….I think he will be here for quiet awhile. He will probably replace Bobby after next season. People want to blame TP for the season Francouer is having but that has been in the making for sometime. Until he learns the strike zone and forces the pitcher to throw him strikes expect to see more of the same.

By Kentavo

July 21, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

This team does not have it. I think the offense will get on track for the 2nd half, just about the time the pitching goes south. I knew the young pitching wouldn’t hold up. If we get brutalized by the Nats, what’s gonna happen when we face a team that can actually hit?

By Matt

July 21, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Bring on the Dawgs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Bob

July 21, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

I hate to see ‘fire Bobby’ posts. Seems to me he’s done pretty well with the talent he’s had for the last 20 years plus. I’m afraid we might be looking at a few more rebuilding years. For those of us who view baseball and sports in general as entertainment and not religion, we’ll be fine and we’ll be there for the Braves.

By BunchOChumps

July 21, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Well, the Braves came out of the All Star break like a teenage boy who balled up and asked Sara St. John to be his girlfriend but she sent him to Buddyville for an extended stay. Enough said.

By Frank

July 21, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

All the “Fire Bobby Cox” haters…..here’s a suggestion for ya…

How bout Buck Showalter? He’d definately light a fire under the boys.

By blackjacket

July 21, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

You do not win consistently in MLB without first class pitching. We have none, and semingly, nothing on the horizon.Pitchers like Jo Jo would do better shooting balls out his wreck tum, than trying to throw with his arm!!!!!!

By Trainwreck

July 21, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

This season is in the refrigerator… the doors are closed, the lights are out, the eggs are cooling, the butter is getting hard, THE JELLO IS JIGGLING!!

By no fan

July 21, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

The Braves are becoming reminiscent of what John Schuerholtz accomplished in Kansas City.

Kansas City, once a perennial powerhouse team, now always at or near the bottom.

I don’t care if Frank Wren is the GM..Schuerholtz is still in the mix!

The Braves have a long, long road to hoe…and, it ain’t going to be easy.

Glavine was a mistake! Smoltz is basically gone! Hampton never was…The pitching staff except for Hudson is non-existent!

The only constant on this team is Chipper..and his days are numbered.

It was a good run…but, like Kansas City it has ended, and I don’t think the Braves future looks all that rosy…

By hal&hank&bob

July 21, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Consensus opinion here is that the Braves mistakes began when they hired the new GM. The decision to sign Tom Glavine to add to such an old nearly decrepit roster of pitchers especially, signaled hopes and dreams over hardheaded objective decision-making. Wren got lucky with the Renteria trade, picking up Jurrjens and Hernandez, but that is the only decent decision that the front office has made during his tenure. A major league roster that includes Greg Norton, Julian Tavarez, Ruben Gotay and especially Corky Miller is a AAAA roster at best, regardless of the other guys.

The roster is the responsibility of the general manager. If this is the best Frank Wren can produce, Wren needs to fly away.

Injuries happen. To every team. But an effective physical training program can reduce the number and the seriousness of injuries and minimize their impact. Something has happened in Atlanta this season. And it has not been good.

That too, is the responsibility of the general manager.

The Braves have put themselves so far behind the eight ball, dug this hole they’re in so deep, that it may not be possible for them to make the playoffs this season. But if some miracle should happen and the team should win even four of these next six games, we would still have to conclude that there would still be a chance, this season. But they are on the road, and they do not play well on the road — probably because they don’t go back to the hotel after games end late at night, since they are such a young team still, in key positions, and even though some of their key guys got married over the off-season, in the immortal words of Neal Boortz, “all men are pigs” — aren’t we? Games end and in Atlanta these guys go home; on the road, they hate to go back to the hotel — and that can make it tougher to play at a top level the next day, even for young athletes. “Flu symptoms” can describe a lot of pains, conditions and circumstances, don’t you know, but they usually last only one day.

But baseball is still a great game, and the MLB season is still long. We are ten days from the end of July, and there are still these relatively important six games and then 58 more.

And you have to remember that at about this time last season Chalie Manuel was about to lose his job in Philadelphia. And the Rockies miracle was not even a pipedream in Clint Hurdle’s mind. Strange things happen in baseball, and in the National League. The Mets can collapse, and umpires can blow key homeplate calls and seasons can change in a heartbeat.

Wren has to be active in the July market, and in August and September. We have got to find better hitters than Miller, Gotay, Norton — and with Matt Diaz coming back, maybe, we may have one better hitter in house, and we may have to admit defeat with Mark Kotsay and move on to Blanco or the HGH kid at AA, or Gorkys Hernandez in CF. And we have to hope that Francoeur shaves and finds the spinach aisle and the tranquilizers, loses the toe-tap and stops thinking and hits the damn ball. And maybe Brandon Jones gets another chance and comes through with TP’s way of hitting.

And that opens another point — where’s the disconnect between our hitters and TP this season, and between TP and Chris Chambliss and our hitters? Something is not working, not consistent there, looks like from here, and that is still another area of GM concern and responsibility, seems to me.

So. With all their problems, with all their front office weankess, injuries, roster problems, youth, are the Braves done? No. The Braves season is not over. No. It is not time to trade Teixiera or Ohman. If we wind up losing this chance to play October baseball then we can kick ourselves, and make the best draft choices we possibly can next June. But until this roster, this manager, this team is out of it beyond any realistic chance, this team is still in it, and Braves fans need to stay with them.

The Braves will play baseball in October.

By Bravissimo

July 21, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

The Braves were toast a month ago; they are now burnt toast. Cox and Wren make happy talk trying to keep the fans coming in but they’ve known better for a long time. This was a mediocre team even before the injuries decimated them. It’s only because they are in a weak division that they managed to remain close so long. John Schuerholz has to take some of the blame for this humiliation. For years he has been trading away promising young talent to stick a Band Aid on this steadily declining team to try to keep the run of success going. I’m sick and tired or seeing former Braves making big contributions on winning teams or, in some cases, rubbing our noses in it as they did last night. Baseball is a business as players often remind us and it’s time for a reality check. Without a major infusion of cash there is no way to restore the Braves to respectability next season. They must return to go and start rebuilding from the minor leagues up. As I see it there are only three untouchables on this team, McCann, Escobar and Jurjenns. Why would Ohmann and Texeira ever want to stay with this mediocre team when they can mike big bucks playing for a major market team with the potential to win it all. As for Chipper, and I hate myself when I say it, he must go on the trading block too. The three to them should bring handfuls of promising young talent from teams needing to kick it up for a late season drive. It’s too bad but “baseball is a business.” Hank Aaron was traded, Dale Murphy was traded, David Justice was traded………

Change of subject. A PREDICTION: Mike Hampton will give up weight training and slim down, sign a bargain contract with another team and have a banner year. Chipper gave up the weights two years ago; see the result? On the other hand Francoeur took up weight training last summer; see the result????? Stamina and agility are the player’s greatest assets; strength is secondary.

By NCBravesFan

July 21, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

This season is over! I drove 250 miles to endure three (3) games of the worst baseball I have seen in my 25+ years of being a loyal Braves fan! Time-Warner sucked this team dry of any life, desire and hope of a winning attitude. The dying corpse was offered up for tax write-offs to “ownership” that can’t even find their entry line in their financial report. Their “play” was an embarassment! The starting pitching is either too old and injured to take the mound or too young to find the plate. The relief pitching can’t hold any lead the team may have lucked into and the closers are a joke. The rest of the team has one or two decent players but the rest are second rate bench players at best. The loyal announcers that would have pointed this out in the past have been replaced or demoted for a bunch of “yes-men”. With TBS dropping the team, the nationwide and worldwide fan base has been reduced to a few Southern states so it will not be growing again any time soon. The management continues to cut cost at every turn and sell adds on everything possible. The fan “experience” is no where close to what it once was. Bobby Cox is NOT the problem. It is much deeper than that. I watched the dugout in the late innings of the Sunday game and you could not tell if they were watching the game or involved in the game or even cared if a game was being played. That attitude comes from the ownership, not from Bobby Cox! They just don’t care any more. After the last three years, I wonder why I care any more!!

By joeyjoejoe

July 21, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

TEX, ENJOY THE CLAM CHOWDER, SAY HI TO BILL BUCKNER…

GO TIGERS.

By William Pratt

July 21, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

We need to open the door and beginning trading. We are toast….big time !!!

By wyme

July 21, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Why would anyone think Boston wants or even needs TEX?

They have Youkilis who is a hometown favorite…Not to mention he’s a gold glove first baseman, and his batting average is close to 30 points higher than TEX!

What would Boston gain?

By Zack

July 21, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

We all know getting rid of bobby cox aint gonna help our team, if anything it will kill moral. Tex is probably going to get offered more somewhere else although yall act like he hates atlanta. Next year, hampton’s contract is up and once that happens, we’ll have room for some other big contracts. Lillibridge will be a good player to trade onnce yunel returns and hopefully, we can at least end this year on a good note, giving way to a strong start next season.

By Peter

July 21, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

Tex will sign with the Yankees………

They can get rid of Jason Giambi, and also the newly signed Richie Sexton……..

Tex can go both ways at the plate eliminating the need for two different First Basemen……….. and save the Yankees a ton of cash !

By Your Kidding

July 21, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

I have never seen such impatient fans in my life…..You have a bad season or two and you are out for heads…..Laughable. But then I can remember wwhen all of the dope heads were saying to trade Jermaine Dye. Just really comical when you have people who could not make a living in baseball managing the skill levels, salaries, personnel, etc for more than 20 mins coming up with logic that makes absolutely no sense at all. But then the majority of these comments truly reflect the intelligent level pertaining to the game of 99.9% of the fans.

By Cooper

July 21, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

Trade Wren for a GM that is decisive and could actually see a rotation of Hudson plus four rookies was not going to cut it.

For a GM that would have seen the intrinsic value of trading for Harden and the talent & emotional boost he would have provided.

For a GM that is not going to wait until the trade deadline to make any kind move when his team has been running in fumes for two months.

For a GM that wants to build a team around Tex, McCann and Chipper b/c he knows the rest are decoys and AAAA ball players.

This isn’t just about bad luck, too many injuries and impossible scenarios or all Tex’s fault.

This is about a GM who assembled a team of 40 somethings SPs, scrubs and not ready for prime time rookies with the naive belief that this cacophony of mediocrity would some how do something different in 08 versus 07, 06, 05 (one n done in the playoffs).

McGuirk keeps saying the team has not cap and plenty of financial flexibility. Either he is fibbing or Wren has chosen the prospect bargain basement route on his own accord.

Don’t blame Tex for the abysmal team that is around him. Apart from McCann, Chipper Hudson, Gonzo and perhaps Escobar this team is AAAA caliber.

The Braves need to stop trying to sell sheeezt as shine-nola as it were.

Don’t throw away Tex without a fight and I don’t mean salvaging 08. Try to resign him. There is nothing to lose but the bag of ball players you will get for him on 7/31.

By kpearce1

July 21, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

I agree with CRM, it’s their attitude. They are still going to make the big bucks, win or lose. So what do they care. Maybe they should change the rules and players only get paid if they win. It sure would make baseball a lot more interesting and fun to watch.

By JERMAINE WILLIAMS

July 21, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Ever since they won the World Series they haven’t been the same. “Take a look at the team!”

By J

July 21, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

See you later Texiera.

By Em

July 21, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

Yeah, we’re finished.

By stubborn

July 21, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

No fat lady singing! They will clinch the division!

By THWG

July 21, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

Offer Tex 15% of the Braves’ payroll (~$16 mil) over 5 years with an optional 6th year. If he goes, we can relish in the two draft picks we gain. Sad thing is, though, the two draft picks will have to suffer through the ever-slumping farm system. Even sadder, in five years we will place our hopes in these youngsters and, due to their upraising in the minors, they will be a let down as the likes of Frenchy and the gang. Oh well. There’s always 2014.

By Monk

July 21, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

I am not so sure that we get as much for Texeira as we hope. He’s a first baseman, and most teams in contention have strong hitters at that position. I suppose an American League team (with both 1B and DH) is more likely. However, Texeira has had a pretty mediocre year and anyone who takes him and hopes to re-sign has to put up with Boras. A DoubleA pitcher with “starter potential” (i.e., not a can’t miss) is the best we can hope for. Not sure what you get for Ohman, maybe a A level position player or two.

By justafan

July 21, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

NCBRAVES FAN: I agree on all you said except Bobby Cox. He is a problem and the attitude does come from the mgr. Bobby’s time has past. New Blood is needed.

By FAN USEDTOBE

July 21, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

This is the worst BRAVES team I’ve ever seen in my ENTIRE LIFE! What the “crap” is going on. They see the ball as if they were BLIND, bat like my “grand-ma”, and run bases like a “FAT MAN ON LARD”. One good thing about the BRAVES, is that FAT PAY-CHECK! ARE YOU HIRING, NEED A JOB? STOP RIPPING OF THE FANS, ALREADY!

By charles f*

July 21, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

Just wait until after this week and you will see that it is over. You can’t beat Washington, how do you expect to beat florida and the Phillies. They have one win against the Phillies and 8 losses. It’s over this year.

By Cooper

July 21, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Monk - Agreed.

The teams in contention are shopping for pitching not a 20-22mm/yr 1B they cannot resign.

Hudson, Gonzo, Ohman and JJ each (as part of a package or straight up) would net more than Tex.

Since we cannot dump most of those guys we should not expect a windfall in 10 days.

Hudson is likely the most marketable piece we have to offer. One that would yield several high quality, ML-ready players.

Tex will get you crap shoot prospects and not a ton of them.

The Youkliss trade idea was pure folly. No team is going to give the Braves a layup trade like that.

By The_Fan

July 21, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Why not trade Hampton, he hasn’t pitched for the braves since March of 2005 @ 15 million a year ouch that stings… Glavine and Smoltz came back to retire…

New Blood is needed!

By Skeezix

July 21, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

Can’t pitch, can’t hit, can’t catch, throw or run and have no heart. Yeah, I’d say they’re done.

By Skeezix

July 21, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

NCBravesFan-you are right on target. All the current problems stem from years of Time Warner/corporate management. I am sorry you drove 250 miles to witness this 2008 edition of the Braves (better known as the Bravettes) lose in such an embarassing manner to the worst team in MLB. They are now certified bush league with a few exceptions ( Chipper/Brian/Tex/Tim/Yunel).

By Heather

July 21, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

So much needs fixing….first, Hampton is draininng the funds. Second, the the offense is really good, but not consistant. Third, for as great a hitter McCann is , he’s a terrrible “catcher” which is is primary job. Just look at the plays Russell Martin made at home plate in the All-Star game. Brain NEVER would have made all those plays. As soon as he had a chance the game was lost. Next, Balnco and Katsay….wow, the two of them together will never equal what Andruw did defensively. Kotsay is okay….but Blanco is awful. He can’t catch anything.

By Bravissimo

July 21, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Yea, why not trade Hampton. You might get a major league ready bat boy.

By Bravissimo

July 21, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

Here’s an idea. Hire Terence Moore as GM and Joe Simpson as Manager: they both know all there is to know.

By John

July 22, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Season never started !!!!!

By Gurney

July 22, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Well done. Do we not have someone in the minors better than Corky Miller and Norton as backups? Both guys cannot even hit their weight.Where is Josh Anderson?

By Gurney

July 22, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

Well done! Our bench stinks. Corky Miller,Greg Norton and Gotay cannot even hit their weight. Time to go the route of the Marlins and clean house and go young!

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