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By C.R.H.

June 25, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

Don’t wear the ipod. It is a safety issue and quite frankly those of us not wearing one really don’t want to hear whats on your ipod.

By Dizzle

June 25, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

EMF - You’re Unbelievable. Beatles - When I’m 64 (great stride beat). Jurassic 5 - concrete streets. Outkast - The Way you move. Run DMC - It’s Tricky. Coldplay - Fix you.

By MikeJones

June 25, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

C.R.H.- You commented on this blog why??

By Joseph

June 25, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

Gnarls Barkley “Gone Daddy Gone” 3 Doors Down “Kryptonite” Bad Company “Live for the Music” Bon Jovi “It’s My Life” Elvis Costello “Pump it Up” First 5

By iRace with iPod

June 25, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

“It is a safety issue” - oh, please. Here’s the REAL “safety issue” the ATC needs to address before each PRR: How about teaching your volunteers the correct way to hand out water cups to runners? There’s far more chance of people slipping and falling while trying to maneuver to the water tables than there is of injury while racing with an iPod.

There’s a proper way to hand out on-course water and most of the PRR volunteers just don’t do it in a way that keeps racers moving along. Can the Fun Police please just run your own races and let the rest of us run ours? Wearing an iPod doesn’t mean you don’t understand the proper way to run a road race.

As for the race day playlist, I just go with whatever randomly pops up on my iPod and will do that this year as well. Nobody’s going to suffer irreparable injury because I’ve got Beyonce, Springsteen and Rilo Kiley serenading me to the finish line. I’ve been racing with them, and others making cool music, for a long time now and we make a fine team.

By C.R.H.

June 25, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

Because the post was about ipods in the peachtree rr. As a runner in the PRR I can tell you that the ipods are a safety hazard and are distracting to others. In addition they are actually prohibited in all road races sanctioned by USATF, which the PRR is. Anyone wearing ipods or other similar devices can be prohibited from participating and pulled from the course. I’m guessing you were not aware that this wasn’t really a “request” not to wear the devices but an actual directive.

By Mrs. Kravitz

June 25, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

Mary J. Blige - Just Fine Beyonce - Baby Boy Nick Lachey - What’s Left of Me The Fray - Over my Head The Dream - Shawty is a Ten Amy Winehouse - Rehab

By Mama Cass

June 25, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

C.R.H.

Lighten up.

Unless you’re from Kenya or Ethiopia, you’re just running the Peachtree for FUN anyway!

By C.R.H.

June 25, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

The problem with the water areas is people STOPPING to get their water instead of continuing to move. You could always bring your own water and not worry about the volunteers who have been gracious enough to donate their time to making this event go. I don’t mind the “casual joggers” or even the walkers, but it would be nice if they showed a little common decency and followed some of the requests and safety directives. 55,000+ people moving on a road can create problems. As for the comment about being from Kenya or Ethiopia…hmmm. Nice! Luckily I won’t be dealing too much with these issues, except for the ones who jump into the race during the last mile.

By A.H.

June 25, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

Rage Against the Machine Bulls on Parade, Matchbox 20 How Far We’ve Come, Jay-Z Dirt on Your Shoulders, Kanye West Stronger, Whitney Houston I Wanna Dance with Somebody

By Mama Cass

June 25, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

My comment about the Kenyans and Ethiopians is that they are the serious racers and usual winners — everyone else is just running for the heck of it — myself included. :-)

By JoJo

June 25, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

A medley of Haitian music along with Damien Marley’s Welcome to Jamrock album

By No Fun Allowed

June 25, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Gee, those bring-it-yourself water bottles are SURELY less of a race course threat than an iPod. I mean, you can just hop right over a bunch of discarded plastic bottles so that you don’t trip and wreck your ankle, knee, etc., but enjoying personal music on an iPod — well, my GOD, that just spells the future downfall of all that is right, good and wholesome about America!

By C.R.H.

June 25, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

No fun allowed…please use some common sense! There are several devices that runners can purchase to meet their hydration needs, not necessarily a disposable plastic bottle. Your novice status has been noted, hopefully you been placed in the appropriate starting group. Enjoy your run and whatever selections you have on your ipod.

By JIMBOB

June 25, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

C.R.H.

Do you still leave at home with your parents??? Damn…..get a life

By JIMBOB

June 25, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

C.R.H.

Do you still leave at home with your parents??? Damn…..get a life

By C.R.H.

June 25, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this

JIMBOB…no I do not “leave at home with my parents”, haven’t for many years. Just a runner who gets tired of people who don’t think the rules should apply to them because they paid the entry fee. BTW, just hit the post button once.

By B.

June 25, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

It’s an active debate in the running community — some think iPods are harmless, others hate them.

Personally I like wearing them, but you have to wear them intelligently — and I never wear them in big runs. People sometimes think that if you’re a casual runner in a big crowd, you’re ok — but I think it’s the exact opposite. A crowd like that is dangerous — you have to be self-aware, because there are so many people around you, and so many of them are trying to pass in tight quarters.

If you put on the tunes at a low volume and pay close attention to your surroundings, more power to you - that doesn’t bother me. But, in my view, a lot of runners don’t do that — a significant percentage of people turn it up and tune out (particularly in a big race, where you have to turn up the volume to hear your iPod over the crowd). And those people are scary to run around — they’re practically deaf, and totally unaware of what’s going on around them. Some get so absorbed they’ll run right into you — or swerve just as you’re trying to pass.

So I’d rather see fewer people wear them — particularly in big races where the crowd is fluid and people are trying to pass a lot in tight quarters.

By JH_Ansley

June 25, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

The Kenyans or Ethiopians who always win the P’tree Road Race never wear IPods … that’s probably why they win. They always leave you all in the dust! Hahahahaaha!

By Barefoot

June 25, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

I don’t wear my Ipod on race day - not as much a safety issue as I hate to miss out on the live bands, the radio simulcasts, and the cheering bystanders. But, as I train, I have my Ipod with me daily. Springsteen, Michael Franti, Warren Zevon, U2, Wilco, Tom Waits, Bob Marley, and Indigo Girls are in heavy rotation these days.

By vannmc

June 25, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

C.R.H. , wow you sound like such a insightful runner, why don’t you head back to the streets and train and stop worrying about what others are doing. The whole “no ipod” debate is so elitist it is ridiculous. I hope you get smoked next week by someone with an ipod! Good luck everyone and have a great race, it is a time to have fun and enjoy the 4th!

*Powersong = the Beatles - Revolution

By C.R.H.

June 25, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this

The argument against ipods isn’t elitist, it is safety. You must be one of those who can’t run without your ipod. I may get “smoked” by many people, but most of THEM happen see this issue the same as I do. And I hope the battery on your ipod dies before you hit the first mile so you have to run the last 5 listen to your own labored breathing.

By tommy

June 25, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this

C.R.H.’s real problem is that he/she absolutely cannot stand not having the last word. As proof of my point, C.R.H. will be compelled to respond to my post.

C.R.H., ignore your intrinsic neurosis and try NOT responding. You may feel lousy but it’ll be progress. Your shrink may even give you a gold star.

By JH_Ansley

June 25, 2008 8:51 PM | Link to this

C.R.H. makes a good point about IPods; why is it that people must always have something stuck in their ears? I love seeing the idiots run with cell phones pressed against their heads or fumble blackberries as the Kenyan cruises on by and WINS!

Technology has made us real sad …

By C.R.H.

June 25, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this

Tommy, I’ll ignore my neurosis if you post something of substance.

Once again…google ipods and races, there have been many instances of problems (some pretty serious) with people wearing ipods/mp3’s. You don’t have the right to put other folks in danger or create problems for others in the race because you need a distraction during a race. If running is that painfully boring for you, maybe take up another sport that is more stimulating for you…

By Copyleft

June 25, 2008 8:55 PM | Link to this

Lot’s of porn. I love watching porn while I run. I get a RISE out of it. Plus I can practice my skills on passing runners.

By kl76

June 25, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this

Actually I have a Zune…

By JH_Ansley

June 25, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

**By Copyleft

June 25, 2008 8:55 PM

Lot’s of porn. I love watching porn while I run. I get a RISE out of it. Plus I can practice my skills on passing runners.**

Hahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa!

By steve

June 25, 2008 10:49 PM | Link to this

C.R.H.,

Something of substance? A detailed - and spot on - assessment of your psyche and all you can come up with was “post something of substance”? Typical.

You are weak and a boor, my friend. I’m surprised you didn’t hurl a stunning rejoinder such as “sticks and stones can break my bones…”.

Tommy, don’t get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man. He proved your point, exactly as you predicted.

By C.R.H. - your Mommy's calling you in for dinner!

June 25, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this

C.R.H. — Which is the better bear? Brown Bear or Black Bear? Wrong! Mage attack!

BattleStar Galactica or Star Trek? Which Star Trek he asks? Everyone knows Kirk is superior to Picard.

I am going to wear 3 iPods, I will stop at the watering hole, and wear a hydration system too.

Rules are rules! They serve the purpose to give guidance to the “little minds” who could not function in the world without someone else’s opinion. C.R.H. if that is your name, you are in need of Psychological, if not psychiatric (drugs) services.

I didn’t vote for you!

By C.R.H. - your Mommy's calling you in for dinner!

June 25, 2008 11:42 PM | Link to this

probably gay!

By C.R.H. - your Daddy did not love you

June 25, 2008 11:47 PM | Link to this

I’m praying for you — and rain on the 4th! Maybe a thunderstorm with one tiny slender lightening bolt that strikes only one individual — guess who I’m praying it hits???

By C.R.H. - your Daddy did not love you

June 25, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this

SHAZAM !!!!

By Joe

June 26, 2008 1:24 AM | Link to this

Nothing personal gang, but, ummm, getting kinda personal. CRH makes a good point: you’re not supposed to wear ipods. But to really think about the question you have to go deeper. Why are you not supposed to wear them? Because some people don’t pay attention to anything around them. But anyone in the race who is inconsiderate of the other runners deserves equal distaste (among those of us who come to run). Having to dodge an ipod runner is roughly the same as a couple walking in conversation in the fast lane, or jamming a water stop or tossing their cup directly in your path. Or last year getting in the way of an untargeted mouthful of spit. OTHER people (spitting politely, running where they should, listening to motivating music, but not so loud that they can’t hear someone coming up from behind) just aren’t the problem. The problem isn’t the rules, its that especially in a race of this size a lot of people have no idea of proper etiquette. I love the Nike + chip, short of a Garmin it’s a great way to regulate your pace and stay motivated and on goal. I will have on an nano, with some Blondie, Liz Phair, REM and Laura Cantrell, and not only will I have a great run, but I will be an inconvenience to nobody there. I like that Revolution as Power Song idea…

By C.R.H.

June 26, 2008 7:24 AM | Link to this

Wow, the level of maturity on this board is amazing. I’m glad some armchair psychiatrist has made their “blog diagnosis” and some uncreative individual who can’t even come up with their own blog username has gone all 5th grade on here. As far as praying for rain, your prayers would be better spent praying for the safety of the people wearing ipods, cause I’m sure there will be many collisions just like in years past. Maybe while they’re sitting in the ER they can share their musiclists.

By Barefoot

June 26, 2008 7:43 AM | Link to this

So, when’s the last time someone posted what they actually have on their MP3 player and what they listen to while they run? Seems days ago…

By atlanta_bob

June 26, 2008 8:01 AM | Link to this

I’ll, go, I’ll go. Foo Fighters - The Pretender and Best of you. Sarah Birrellis(sp) - Love Song (it’s good for pacing). There are a couple that give me a chuckle when they shuffle in about Cardiac Hill, for instance the Numa Numa dance song, and a few Dashboard Confessional songs that have “inside jokes” in them. So I have an eclectic mix. Also, it’s not nearly complete…..

Though, Not to beat a dead horse, I did read in teh packet that we’re not supposed to have iPods….What’s the actual deal there?

By TP

June 26, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

CRH -Thank you for your input. You are correct about not wearing iPods. Unfortunately, you are arguing in vain.

These people can not understand why it is dangerous because they only see things from their point of view. Their life is simple, they only have one thing to think about, themselves.

They are the people who jump in the race down the course or run in the wrong group. You can find them walking in the first mile. It is an entitlement attitude, developed in childhood, and keeping them from maturing into an adult.

Like the guy who accuses you of being a mama’s boy, ironic isn’t it?

By RG

June 26, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

I am in a fantastic race bracket and I have ran many races with and without an ipod. I personally prefer to run with it…the drone of hearing my feet is too much. I’m not going to pick up another sport because some people are listening too loud and have accidents. CRH is correct they are banned in sanctioned races but most people (including myself) do not care with a race this size. Smaller races when I am competing for a place then I do not use the ipod. Pretty simple.

By Joe is On Point

June 26, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

I’ve run with my iPod for the past at lest two, possibly three, years and never had a problem. Joe hit the nail on the head - it’s a matter of ettiquette. Don’t turn the thing up so loud that you can’t hear those around you or race announcements and you’re fine. Too loud leads to hearing damage, anyway. As Joe noted, I have also had more problems with those that stop the minute they hit the water table, jump in along the course, or are jogging slowly or walking on the left side of the road. Also, if you are participating with a group, whether running, walking, jogging, or crawling, the whole group needs to stay to the right if you’re pacing by the slowest person. Walking five abreast down the middle of the street leads to collisions by everyone trying to get AROUND you. I know this reference may be lost on many, but it’s like driving on the highway - slower people to the right.

Yes, there is a rule about music, but for some of us it IS a part of the experience, not because we are bored. To me it is motivating, puts me in a good mood and in a good head space when I’m faced with the above situations.

My playlist has Rihanna, All American Rejects, Martina McBride (Independence Day - right for the start), Collective Soul, Bush…I haven’t put the whole thing together, yet.

By Peter

June 26, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

SWERVEDRIVER

keeps that motor runnin’ long after all other forms of motivation have expired.

By Gee Owens

June 26, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

I like to run with an iPod sometimes, but the PRR is best enjoyed w/o one. It is lots of fun to hear the cheers of the spectators and the noise of the crowd.

By Lizzie gonna run fast next Fri

June 26, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

OLDIES!! Plus some new stuff to get me pumped up: Britney. Fergie. Nellie Furtado. I love running to The Weather Girl’s “It’s Raining Men!” It’s the best!! Also, I LOVE running to “Do You Love Me (Now That I Can Dance.” Can’t wait!

By Lizzie gonna run fast next Fri

June 26, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

There is no way I’m not going to leave my iPod at home. There is nothing wrong with needing music. Music kicks a*.

By Lizzie gonna run fast next Fri

June 26, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

All American Rejects were in Va Highlands the other night at 10 High under Dark Horse. It was AWESOME!

By steelciti

June 26, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

Outkast, Lil’ Wayne, The Fray, The Police, Neyo, Mary J., K. West, the many more.

By WTF?

June 26, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

I’m just not getting it, a safety issue? Really?!? 1)If you can’t run down a road, listen to music (as loud as you want),and pay attention to your surrondings, I’m not quite sure how one would make it through life in general. It’s simple…really. 2) It’s 50,000 people, do you really expect everyone to follow “procedure” and “ettiquette”? If you are in one of the first few time groups, you may have a point. But for the rest of us? Just run down the dang street, if there’s someone in front of you, go around him/her. Don’t get so worked up about it. Everyone take a deep breath and relax. It’ll be ok. Seriously.

By WTF?

June 26, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

Oh, and I’ll have something nice and loud to get me pumped. Metallica, System of a Down, Greenday, might even through some Rammstien in there. Maybe some Modest Mouse to break it up a bit.

By wll

June 26, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

WIDESPRED PANIC- EVERYDAY

By C.R.H.

June 26, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

WTF?… not having an awareness of your surroundings in the middle of a crowded race is a safety issue. If you want to put yourself at risk, great! I’m all for personal responsibility, but you are also a hazard to other runners. I’m not the one all worked up over it and calling names on here because I am in time group 1.

But it is a safety issue when people can’t hear or don’t pay attention to their surroundings. For example: a lady who was wearing her ipod while running didn’t hear a train, got hit and lost both her legs. Now, how do you run near train tracks and not notice a train? Must have had a really good song on I guess. If you change your running path without the courtesy of a head check and you didn’t hear the person behind you, you probably deserve to get knocked pretty good. If you are doing what you should be doing in the first place, collisions probably can be avoided. I am not concerned with people agreeing with me, people do whatever they want. I don’t expect the ATC to enforce the rule until someone really does get knocked pretty good or the USATF starts pulling their support of the race. Once again I don’t mind the walkers, casual runners or even the weekend warriors in races, they are open for everyone, it would be nice if they showed some common courtesy for the other competitors though!

It is also pretty irresponsible of the AJC to be promoting behavior that is unsafe and against the race rules for a race they sponsor.

By WTF?

June 26, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

C.R.H., you proved my point in your response. One can easily listen to music and pay attention to their surroundings. The head check you mentioned is all you need in this setting(recreational fun run). Listening to an Ipod does not equal inability to pay attention to one’s surroundings. And in fact using one’s vision is much more effective and efficient. If someone is getting hit by a train while running, the problem is NOT listening to an Ipod, it’s that one should be watching where one is going and be aware of his/her surroundings. My Point is this: it is a non-sequitur to claim that Ipods are intrinsically unsafe. In fact, it’s only these poor souls who apparently can’t use their vision adequately where it may pay some role at all. And if this is the case, such as your example, they have much larger problems on their hands. Or, it is that people are rude and discourteous, again, not caused by Ipods, it’s just who these people are and how they were raised. Anywho…

By JDC

June 26, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

I plan on having my iPod with me - I can’t wait to put my playlist together. I also don’t plan on being a danger to anyone.
There are so many ways to avoid being a “safety risk” it’s not even worth spelling them out. It is worth considering whether or not there is a legitimate concern here. Nowhere in my research have I found any data or specific research that substantiates this “safety risk.” I’ve searched the website for USA T&F and read several articles - nowhere have I found a legitimate basis for this “ban” except that insurance rates are rising. This, to me seems like a red herring. In a race the size of the Peachtree, a $2 surcharge for insurance premiums would generate $100,000 - probably enough to cover any rate increase. Beyond that, simply have participants sign a waiver (didn’t we do that already?) absolving the ATC, Track & Field, or whomever from any liability.
The attitude that we have to create more laws and boundaries because there is some unqualified “risk” is making this country less fun by the day. Next we’ll hear that car stereos can not play loud music because someone might not hear some jerk honking at him and will get in an accident - draw the line somewhere and let us just enjoy ourselves and take personal accountability for our actions.
Looking forward to running in Group 9 where I won’t have to worry about messing anyone up.

By No one corners the market on running

June 26, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

You can wear an iPod responsibly….Keep the volume down, be aware, and listen to the street circus all at the same time! Its doable. That’s the best thing about running….There are no rules….Its just you and your legs….with or without music.

By C.R.H.

June 26, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

Several comments on here have also made the point, many people plan on “cranking up” their music. If you can’t hear, you have lost one of your major senses…not a good idea in really any situation. Every collision (not minor bumping due to space constraintants)I have seen in a road race (and a few really disasterous collisions on the Silver Comet Rail Trail) have involved someone wearing an ipod. People do sign waivers but people like to sue anyway, and can easily use the argument that a rule (no headphones) was not enforced. I agree that rules take the fun out of things, but people who don’t have enough common sense are the reason there are so many rules. Everyone who signed up for the race should have also been aware of the rules before they entered.

The increasing insurance for races is one of the major reasons for the ban. Insurance companies are experts on risky behaviors/risk factors…maybe getting some research from those folks will help clarify the debate about the safety issue behind the ban.

Enjoy yourself, not preventing anyone from that…but I hope you use some sense if you put on the ipod. But some courtesy goes a long way…other people may not really enjoy your music as much as you do.

By Sub-seeded

June 26, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

If you can’t run a 10K without an iPod you’re mentally weak. Why bother with running if you can’t go less than hour without having to “take your mind off” what you are doing.

iPod joggers to the back!

By Napolean Dynamite

June 26, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

What’s an I-pod? I always run with my sony walkman..and yes..i am sub-seeded.

By amy

June 26, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

C.R.H.- Please shut everyone up and post a copy of this regulation-or a link to it for all these Narrow Minded Pea Brains to understand your point.
And Good Luck in the Race.

By C.R.H.

June 26, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

Everyone knows (or should know) the rule, it is in the packet. No sense posting it, people will disregard rules that they don’t like. And good luck to you as well.

By Runnergal

June 26, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

C.R.H.,

Are you a professional runner? You don’t seem to have a day job…

I won’t wear an iPod for the PRR for one reason- last time I wore mine it rained, and in spite of my best efforts to waterproof my beloved device, it shorted at mile 3 of a marathon. Until that point, I’d never run without music, so I was in near panic mode.

That being said, I still enjoy training with music, but I mix it up with NO music to avoid future running mishaps. For 10K runs, I usually like: Woman by Wolfmother, Little Cream Soda by the White Stripes, Born Too Slow by the Crystal Method, Mr. Self Destruct by NIN, and maybe a little Les Claypool thrown in there…

Happy running!

By Chad

June 26, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

Informer by Snow, The Smaller the Club by Mel Waiters, Poncho and Lefty by Willie Nelson and Brandy by whatever 70s dude sang it.

By Marie

June 26, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

I have a mix of everything from some good euro DJ’s to some hard rock. I like have Chemical Bro’s, Rage against the machine, Linkin Park, Prodigy, Justice, and Bloc Party.
I like to run with my Ipod b/c I have the nike upgrade so it keeps track of my pace, miles ran, time, calories etc. I think it is a little buzz kill that they dont let you wear them as I have run in 5 & 10 K that do, it is just easier and I can track myself. I have a high number and that’s cool, I am just running to have a good time.
Think everyone that is against them are probably old, for some reason they just dont get it. and no I dont have entitlement issues, just think the majority of people practice safety when running with their music of choice, why would you punish the majority of people for what the minority do (ie playing the ipod too loud). Since I usually run on peachtree now if I didnt have my Ipod would be forced to listen to the sounds of ATL traffic, yuck.

By C.R.H.

June 26, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

Hmmm…interesting questions. Do I have a job? Yeah, I got one. Now a question for the ipod wearing folks who seem to be extremely defensive about their ipod - Why do you wear an ipod when you run?

By Runnergal

June 26, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

If I’m not running with someone, and if I’m not in a very crowded race, I wear one because it helps me focus on what I’m doing. It wipes away certain distractions like the sweaty dude behind me breathing heavily. Certain songs also inspire me, or give me a good running tempo (like Wolfmother’s “Woman”). I keep the volume down enough so I can hear people talking, but up enough so I can hear my music. I like to track my distance, time, and speed with my Nike attachment- I also like to hear the little voice that tells me I have only 4oo meters to go… 300 meters to go… I think that’s an advantage if I don’t know the course well. I used to listen to my iPod because my goal used to be just to finish my races, but didn’t really enjoy the actual running. Listening to music was a bit of a mental distraction that helped me get through something painful. Now, I don’t need it- but I still enjoy it. Finally, if you are on the Silver Comet running a 22 mile training run- it’s something to keep you company.

Cheers,

By SKE

June 26, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

CRH….I wear and ipod and listen to self help recordings so I can be more like you …and you speak of collisions on the silver comet, I would say those are caused by the ignorant bikers who think they are lance armstrong that ride out there.

By C.R.H.

June 26, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

Gee SKE, defensive much? I appreciate the honest and mature response to my question that Runnergal posted, maybe you can strive to be like her as well.

The “Lance Armstrong” wannabes are usually the guys following the rules of the road, crashing at 35+ mph isn’t exactly their idea of a good time. The point is, follow the rules and you greatly reduce the chances that an event like this happens.

I would still like to hear what other ipod wearers have for reasons. Several people have taken their cheapshots but all of a sudden…I hear crickets.

By SKE

June 26, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this

CRH….The first rule posted at the silver comet trail is “pedestrians always have the right of way”.

By C.R.H.

June 26, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

SKE, did I say these collisions involved bikers? No! One of the worst collisions I witnessed was a mother spending quality time with her kid; both wearing their ipods (because that is apparently the best way to deal with “family time”), the kid walked to the left to go sit down on a bench as a runner (a pretty good sized guy) who had clearly stated his intention to pass with 2 shouts of “on your left” came through. The kid got the worst end of the deal. “On your left” is also posted on those same trail rules. So why do you wear your ipod SKE?

By SKE

June 26, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

CRH……I wear it because I enjoy it, not because I need it…we should run together sometime

By C.R.H. - Your Daddy Did Not Love You

June 26, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

I am going to jump in the race at about the 5 mile mark! I will be wearing 5 iPods, two Zunes, and sparkles, and bells, glitter; and I will be shiny with silver ribbons!

I run like the wind. People often comment on the breeze I create as I pass them by … “look at ‘em go” they say!

I will be listening to Philip Glass (on three of my iPods) Glassworks — “Floe”, Anima Mundi, and the theme to “CandyMan”, Sparklehorse, and William Shatner’s “How Insensitive (Insensatez)” on the Zunes.

Also, I will be humming and whistleing — a technique perfected by the Tibetan Buddhist monks called “Throat Singing” — I’m actually a novice at it, but something about running like the wind really helps me to focus!

Dwight Schrute is your role model, isn’t he? Qveer little Pointdexter — Black Bear! BEARS, BEETS, Battlestar Galactica

Mage Attack!!

Excelsior!!!

By C.R.H. - Your Daddy Did Not Love You

June 26, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

I saw a guy get hit by a car once! He stepped off the curb and I plowed right over/through him — it was wicked cool!! It left a hell of a dent, kind of cool though!

By C.R.H.

June 26, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

Alrighty let’s add it up…well, we got one guy (Is Dr. Phil on the blog?) who has made a medical diagnosis about my mental status that is obviously based on his many years of education, training and practicing in the field of psychiatric medicine and of course his numerous interactions with me.

Then we have the usual name calling (no surprise there). We also have the person who hopes I get beat in the PRR by someone wearing an ipod (as if my life will cease to have meaning should this disaster occur).

Lastly we have the oh, so memorable post by the creative guy with the (several) interesting screennames that apparently spends his free moments of prayer hoping I get struck by lightening (I’m pretty sure that the people with electrical devices stuck in their ears and strapped around their arms are much more likely to experience the pleasure of having a huge electrical discharge surge through their body…), and seems to think that people; like myself, who do not like having their personal safety compromised by others, are simply folks who had unloving parents, are homosexuals or spent too much time watching science fiction shows.

If these are the type of people who are wearing ipods in a race, then I feel MUCH BETTER about the ban!

By C.R.H.

June 26, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this

SKE thanks for the invitation, but if you are wearing an ipod what would be the purpose of running with someone? There wouldn’t be any interaction or conversation. Which brings me to… if you got the headphones on you can’t really hear the crowd either (or the bands, some of which aren’t too bad). Seems to me that you’re missing the race. People keep talking about the atmosphere that surrounds the PRR, but you aren’t part of it or interacting with it if you got the earbuds in.

By I run with my iPod

June 26, 2008 11:55 PM | Link to this

CRH….i run with my iPod and my i have run right at 37 flat the past 3yrs in a row. I run with my iPod bc i have no one to talk to while i run due to no very many of my friends run 37’s. How am i not being safe? When i get into a congested area i tell people excuse me and actually in a very loud tone due to my music playing. SO if im being polite to those around me and im aware of my surroundings…how is this not safe. Also im well aware of the USATF ban against iPods and anything of that nature. The rule isnt strictly enforced and personally i dont think its enforced at all. CRH…relax man go out and run the Peachtree…you have to working eyes, im sure you can point out these horrible “iPod listeners” and steer clear. I manage to listen to my iPod and avoid my other fellow iPoders and finish the race safely..i dont think PRR number 8 for me will be any different. Good Luck everyone

By Mac McLemore

June 27, 2008 12:36 AM | Link to this

No BS - just an answer to the question - Rockin’ Down The Highway by the Doobie Brothers, the live version.

By B

June 27, 2008 1:30 AM | Link to this

Okay - you all disgust me. This would be my first year running the Peachtree and I have no desire to do so around a bunch idiots. I would much rather head up to the lake and run in the mountains. Anyone want my number - group 3….?

By Edlver

June 27, 2008 1:34 AM | Link to this

What a bunch of whiners

So what if poeple wear their ipods? 40,000 people walk in the left hand lane. This is about having fun - if you think you are a serious runner and you want everyone to obesrve the rules then you are something else - a loser, Get a grip

By LaxPlayer

June 27, 2008 5:10 AM | Link to this

Anything by T.I. While I don’t appreciate his lyrics, he definitely has great beats!

I agree, what is more annoying is all of the walkers that are in the runners’ space. I end up running 8 miles by the time I’m done just because I have to dodge inconsiderate walkers. I wish the Peachtree was like it used to be.

By Sara

June 27, 2008 5:41 AM | Link to this

C.R.H, how do you even run in a race with that stick up your butt? Talk about safety.

Take a chill pill.

By Hank

June 27, 2008 7:04 AM | Link to this

I listened to the ZTrainer, which I downloaded from itunes to helped me prepare for the race. I’m truly pumped this year!

By baker

June 27, 2008 7:41 AM | Link to this

you people need to get a life, seriously

By Deaf Runner

June 27, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this

I suppose deaf people should be banned from race too, right C.R.H.? It’s a safety issue…and probably for their own good, right? Get over yourself, freak.

By walkman

June 27, 2008 8:00 AM | Link to this

iPod….What’s that? I wear a walkman. I’m currently listening to my newest and bestest cassette “Thriller”.

What’s all this talk about water? My coach doesn’t allow us to drink water while we run. He says “just go run, you can drink water on your own time”.

By From the beyond

June 27, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

I died 2 years ago after turning into a big truck I did not hear coming cause I was rocking out to my tunes.

By Kevin

June 27, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

“I will survive” by Gloria Gaynor

By C.R.H.

June 27, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Ban the deaf? They are usually some of the most acutely aware runners out there. And of course, there is no rule against deafness.

It’s typical that the people breaking the rules resort to name calling and other interesting behavior since it diverts attention from the fact that they are wrong. Although the few who have been mature enough to own up and take responsibility have been a refreshing read…hopefully they will also be responsible enough to follow some of the other “rules of the road” and not cause anyone to get hurt. BTW…everyone agreed to the rules of the race when they entered. Don’t like the rules? Join the ATC and bring it up at the end of the year meeting or don’t run the race.

I’m still trying to figure out why the major sponsor of this race (the AJC) is encouraging people to break one of the rules. Since the “reporter” was apparently aware of the ipod “issue”, why didn’t he/she actually bother to do a little research about it? You know, maybe ready the instruction packet or the FAQ’s on the ATC website. Since the AJC is more interested in “cool blog topics”: here’s some suggestions for PRR topics for next year: “Hey cheaters, where do you prefer to jump in the end of the race?”, “Stroller secrets: maneuvering little Jr. through the race”, “Is Fido ready for the Peachtree? Share your training tips!”, “How to get top dollar for your PRR bib number on ebay”. I’m actually more disgusted with the irresposibility of the sponsor of this race…I fully expect individuals to be irresponsible since many seem to feel it is their god-given right to be.

By HM70

June 27, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

C.R.H

U SCAREYYYYYYY

DOES YOUR BOSS KNOW THAT YOU ARE POSTING AND NOT WORKING…

HOWEVER, AGREED, NO IPODS FOR A BIG RACE UNLESS IT IS TURNED DOWN VERY VERY VERY LOW…

By swj

June 27, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

Why do I run with an ipod? It’s a good and fair question CRH asks so I’ll throw in my two cents.

I run with my ipod because when I started a couch to 5k program in January it was tough to keep motivated, to push myself, to keep going. The ipod did that for me. Need to run for 5 more minutes? Just keep running to the end of this song and your golden. I think a lot of athletes take for grated how easy it is for you to just ‘go out and do it’. For a lot of us who are working towards getting in shape, that extra motivation is key to keep going and to keep trying harder. Maybe one day I will eschew wearing my ipod. I hope one day I won’t need it to push me through the last mile, or to keep me on a steady pace. Either way, I know that I will still look both ways before I cross the street, be mindful of my surroundings and of others around me with or without my ipod. And, maybe I’ll run the Peachtree with my ipod, maybe I won’t. But I’ll be running it. For the first time ever. That single goal that seemed IMPOSSIBLE in January is possible TODAY.

And while I’m the one doing the running, thank goodness that I had my ipod to help motivate me to get me there.

Good luck to all runners, ipod or not.

By Kelley

June 27, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Nine Inch Nails - trent reznor really gets me going!!!!

By Marcus

June 27, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Those of us finishing in the Top 1000 don’t have time to listen to goofy-a* iPods. I do the Peachtree every year just for fun and “for the heck of it,” but the t-shirts always suck so I have to go for the mug! The mugs are awesome!! Plus there’s always music playing on the side of the road, it’s really fun stuff. Even though the finish will be hectic and not as fun, I still can’t wait for the Peachtree, it’s such a fun time. I have 3 mugs, going for my 4th… let the collection continue.

By Diff

June 27, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

C.R.H. are you an engineer?

By C.R.H.

June 27, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Congrats and good luck to swj…you will always remember your 1st PRR. Try to run without the ipod, you may be surprised at how great the crowds are at keeping you going. And the bands are really not too bad. If you have an early enough start group, it’s also fun to get some of those little things that some of the businesses toss out there…some of those shirts are great!

By Jen

June 27, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

swj I am in week 6 of Couch to 5K!!!

I was never a runner before, either. Well, not entirely true. I was a sprinter. I look like a sprinter - short with big leg muscles…none of that lean long runner thing going on here.

But I started C25K in May. And I am doing really great! Part of it is because I bike to work so I am already cardiovascularly fit. So, I have yet to actually struggle to finish a run. I am looking forward to my 25 minute run this afternoon.

I hope to run the Peachtree next year.

However, I won’t be using an iPod or other “Walkman” (rememebr how Walkman was a Sony brand but we called all portable tape decks Walkmans? That’s what iPod is now…).

I’ve never used a personal audio device. I do not like tuning out my environment. For one, I live in the city and often run on city streets and on PATH. And I am female…so it’s just not safe for me to dull any of my senses at any time. Second, I live in the city and I love the sights and sounds of the city…and don’t want to miss out on them while I am running.

I have not needed music to motivate me to finish. My motivation comes from thinking that each step is giving me one set of KILLER legs! :D

Actually, it comes from knowing that I KICK A*! I am strong and fit and healthy and all of that makes me gorgeous and I am enjoying the hell out of the process AND the result.

Run on!

By Wendy

June 27, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

C.R.H. is probably some wannabe who ran a sub 33:00 one time, back in the day and now he thinks he’s the expert on how everyone should run. Relax dude, you not going to “win” anything. What’s even more dangerous than iPods are those who think they’re qualifying for the Olympics when, in fact, their PR was done 15 years ago when they were in college. You think it’s a competition when everyone except the Kenyans are in it for recreation. Try to come to grips with your limitations and you won’t ruin it for everyone. The PRR isn’t for YOU alone. But people who act and think like you do make it more dangerous than an iPod.

By C.R.H.

June 27, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Welcome to the party Wendy. Not trying to qualify for the Olympics, but hopefully will run better than last year. Recreation is great but don’t forget there are about 55,000 other people in the street with you. When some of those people are so selfish as to think that they don’t have to follow rules that becomes dangerous. I’m acutely aware of my limitations and one of those is that I am safer when I have all my senses working. Your description of me may be more of a reflection of yourself; after all, you know yourself much better than you know me.

Another question about my occupation…fair enough, some have been nice enough to answer my question honestly and maturely. I’m my own boss, so yes the boss is aware of what I do. I’m an attorney, have fun with that :-)

By Erin

June 27, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

I am not running the Peachtree, just starting running again after 10 years. I run with my iPod and just realized after two days of running how desperately I need to update the songs on it! I will be spending the remaining $40 on my iPod account on new tunes for running :)

By Gus

June 27, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Wow, a lot of people are touchy about headphones on the race course. Personally, I don’t care. Although as an old-timer and a lifelong runner, I don’t see the problem with the iPods and other headphone devices. However,CRH is right; insurance companies require that participants not wear headphones because liability issues. Grandma’s Marathon in Duluth, MN (last Saturday to be exact) has rigorously enforced the rule. What bugs me to no end in the PRR is walkers jumping into the race course and blocking the runners. I am not going to win, I understand, but I would like to be competitive. So please hold off until Time Group 2 comes rolling around before starting your power walk.

By rebecca helllcat cochran

June 27, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

I am in really good shape cause’ i run a lot. I think I may win this year. I like to run to music. Its fun. I run best to 2 live Crew. They are good. I am running right now to get me a hamburger.

By John Tackett

June 27, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Here are some storys about it..

Ban on ipods and other music players

iPod Conflict Brews in Racing

I believe the rule in question is Rule 144, Paragraph 2, section e of the USATF rules.

Just an FYI

By amy tygett

June 27, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

I did not know there was a Peachtree Ipod. Where would I buy one?

By Ang

June 27, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

To CRH. You just like beating a dead horse, don’t you. You made the point about how you feel and the rules numerous entries ago. Do us all a favor and shut up. Do your thing and let others do theirs. Everyone has different views on what they feel is enjoyable. Professional music vs street bands? I prefer professional music. You can prefer your street bands. No one is making you listen to an ipod. You listed plenty of things you find annoying. I am sure people can find plenty of things you do that annoy them during the race. Right now, you are just annoying everyone on the blog.

To everyone running the Peachtree - Good luck - I wish you nice weather, a safe race and a good finish!

By robbie

June 27, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

I like apple bottom jeans….and karate

By melinda hartley

June 27, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

I like to kick it old style with my walkman and a mix tape with Bell Biv Devoe, Guy, Atlantic Starr etc. You know real music.

By Douglas

June 27, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

C.R.H, I’M WITH YOU MAN!!!

I can see the headlines now; “IPODS WREAK CARNAGE AT PEACHTREE ROAD RACE, IS THE WORLD SAFE?”

I don’t trust IPODS either. My friend was attacked once by a rogue IPOD. The psychological affects are devestating.

By grant

June 27, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Sometimes I like to run with my boom box on my shoulder and a sheet of cardboard under my arm. Yo!

By rebecca cochran

June 27, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Last time I checked, no one will be getting attacked. We are not at some secluded park alone. There are thousands of people around. I think that some people should really get a life, we are in America and we have freedom to use ipods.

By CRH means....

June 27, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Certified Radio Helper

By jack

June 27, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

bet little rednwck girl does not even have a IPOD. Dont worry…no one is going to take your tuner from your hip. no cut offs please.

By C.R.H.

June 27, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

With the help of ipod supporters, the point has been proven…many are not responsible or mature enough to interact within a large (or even in the case of this blog, small) group. Of course there are some notable exceptions.

And yes, you are “free” to use your ipod, even though it is a no-no in the rules, but that doesn’t seem to matter to some because after all, it is all about YOU! With freedom also comes responsibility and in some circumstances, consequences. Are you prepared to deal with those?

By Mr. Mackey

June 27, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

Mmmmkay!

By Douglas

June 27, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Rebecca,

I respect your opinion, but you have obviously never had a first hand encounter with a rabid IPOD. I am sure that C.R.H can attest to the dangers of IPODS.

An IPOD once deflated my two front tires before I had to go to work. It then ate my lunch, leaving only the crust of my chicken sandwich in the refrigerator. As I sobbed over the lost lunch, I overheard my IPOD making lewd calls to my sister-in-law.

These are the dangers of only ONE IPOD!

C.R.H, join me in my petition to raise the Terror Alert to level Orange for Atlanta. Sign here; http://getafreakinglife.com

It is obvious that Atlantan’s are not aware of the imminent danger that awaits.

By Ang

June 27, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

CRH - What did the Ipod ever do to you to make you so cold and bitter? And I bet you Never EVER broke a rule in your whole life. What an outstanding moral example you are. I do have a question for you though - since you are an attorney, does it make you feel good to defend people who break laws?

By Jessica McKelvey

June 27, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

Dear AJC, I am a teenage athlete 24’7 and one source of energy that keeps me going when I’m running, playing basketball, or any other sport would have to be music! I think its sort of a silly rule officials are asking for. Every person has different methods on how they keep their stamina up while running, but if one of those helpful ways are listening to music ; then I think they should be able to do so.:)

By C.R.H.

June 27, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

Ipods have never done anything to me, never said I had a problem with ipods. They are great when used when you don’t have to have full use of your senses. They do impair a person’s ability to sense their environment and that is not a good thing when you have 55,000 people trying to move in a single direction in limited space at various speeds.

Now with that being said; if you want to put yourself in a situation that could harm just you…knock yourself out, you as an adult can make that call.