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By adeshort

April 26, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

i would love to see a plus one format, which would effectively be a 4 team playoff. a true playoff complete with brackets doesn’t quite fit what i “need” college football to be….every game must count.

By exley Dawg

April 26, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this

Leave it alone. I place great value in watching insignificant teams playing each other due to the outcome dictating your teams success.

By Randy

April 26, 2008 9:21 PM | Link to this

There already is a great format in place - it’s called the regular season. Let the best teams emerge over the course of the season.

By John

April 26, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

The BCS system provides an opportunity for the top two teams to meet in the championship game. The hard part is agreeing on which are the top two teams.

If the two polls agree on the top two teams, then they should meet for the championship. If they don’t agree, then use the BCS formula, including a strength of schedule component.

I would change the qualification for at-large teams to require that teams play at least half of their non-conference schedule against BCS conference teams to encourage good non-conference games.

The biggest argument against a playoff is the length of the season and the impact on regular season scheduling.

The regular season can not be shorter than eleven games, since major schools will insist on having seven home games to meet their budgets. The focus on making the playoffs will lead to schedules heavy on “pay me” games and short on competitive games.

By BCS Slave

April 26, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

If we are going to have a “national champion” then we need a playoff. Right now the Bowl system and the BC$ is about money. As long as they can milk money from the bone head fans, we will never have a true NC. The biases of voters make sure that doesn’t happen. The fact the Ohio State never has to play a championship game on Championship Saturday and then still someone maintains their poll ranking is proof that we will never have a fair NC until we have a true playoff.

If we can’t have a playoff, I’d rather us abandon the BC$ all together and go back to the bowls. Get rid of rankings and let the bowls decide which teams are worthy to play in their games. Of course, this will never happen because money is the determining factor.

By RebelDawg

April 26, 2008 11:18 PM | Link to this

The only way this would be fair is if the Dawgs get to be one of the fore teams every year.

By mirandawasrobbed

April 26, 2008 11:56 PM | Link to this

Here is one idea I’ve thought of. You take the winners of the Big East, Big Ten. ACC, SEC, Big 12 and PAC 10. A NCAA committee would choose out of these 6 they would pick the best 4 teams. These four teams wouls meet in a Final Four scenario. For example if this had been in effect last year we could have had on a final four weekend where Ohio St played Georgia and LSU would have played USC. Then the two winners could play each other in the championship game. This way you could have two cities take part in the championship tournament. One city hosts final four weekend and the other city host the championship game the following weekend.

By TW

April 27, 2008 12:03 AM | Link to this

Play a tough schedule, win all your games - and you’ll be the champ.

Those who cry for a play-off should stick to watching American Idol…why not just let Simon, Paula, and Randy pick the National Champ?

By Sid

April 27, 2008 2:24 AM | Link to this

Note for Terrence Moore: Vick officially gone as the face of the Falcons? Vick was officially gone as soon as he hung those dogs from the tree and hooked up the car battery to them. You honor a thug, a liar, and you want to smear someone before they have even touchdown at the Atlanta airport. I don’t know how Ryan will do in the NFL, but I do know this. Mike Vick was no leader, no passer, gifted as a runner but that kind of makes sense doesn’t it. Are you just stupid or what……..Vick ended his tenure with the Falcons as soon as he lied. You can’t have customer support and brand recognition with the slimy element that he was, I hope he can make amends somewhere down the road but Atlanta does not want him.
Quarterbacks taken in the first round often evolve into Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, David Carr or Alex Smith and Mike Vick. What are you talking about…..Leaf was Ryan, Couch was Ryan, Carr was Ryan……….?? Can you make sense man…..!! We need a franchise QB, maybe Ryan is it…….maybe not but one thing we know for sure……you are an idiot.

By Proud dawg

April 27, 2008 4:36 AM | Link to this

The best way I think is to make all BCS conferences go to 12 teams and all hold conference championships! The current non-BCS teams need to also form 12 team conferences and add another BCS bowl (cotton or peach would work) Add the rule that only conference champions can play for a national title. Notre Dame you’re SOL unless you break from your stupid tradition and man up and join a conference! Hopefully then it will be more clear who to match in the NC. If for some reason there are three or more undefeated teams who have played significant schedules (hear this Hawaii?)decide the two to play by nationally televised coin toss (more TV $$$$!) Yes, one team will get screwed but it will seem more fair and each team has an equal chance of getting in. Its not a perfect solution I know but what is?

By Roswell Ed

April 27, 2008 7:40 AM | Link to this

Why don’t we just give last years recruiting champion the title the next year.

paRole Tide!!!

By Roy

April 27, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

Wish there was a perfect solution, but even four teams could get controversial - I’d love to see every major conference champion have a playoff place, let the mid-majors come up with a way of filling a seventh spot and then a best ‘at large’ spot (best record for non-conference games?). Like I say, I’d love to see the games this would lead to - just don’t see how they could be fit in with everything else.

re the ‘win all your games, be national champ’ comment - not too impossible to have 3 teams unbeaten at the end of the regular season and two unbeaten after the bowls, or for no unbeaten teams, how to then decide (could say no-one is national champion?!?)

By RebelDawg

April 27, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

I think Roswell Ed has it. That way the Dawgs will get to be the champions most every year without even having to play for it. That way the Dawgs would be champs even if they had a losing record.

By PlayoffsOrDie

April 27, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

You people who believe in the “regular season” and “Top 4 of BCS” rankings are stupid. There are no “professional” pollsters out there. The AP are sportswriters, and how many of you rip the AJC writers every day? Do you think Moore or Barnhardt is qualified to rank one team, let alone 25 and get it right? How about the “coaches” poll? How many of you think your opposing rival team’s coaches are geniuses? And how many of you believe they have no ulterior motives for ranking the teams when they vote? It has been proven they either have someone else vote because they don’t care, or they vote for conference or friend loyalty.

There should be an independent panel created who would be made up of a cross section of individuals with no school ties other than where they graduated from, pay them to attend intense training to evaluate teams using statistics and mathematics and then have them rank the teams for a playoff. Then you could have either two teams or 4 teams in a playoff. To me, it would be better to have 8. Every sport around the world EXCEPT college football has a playoff system and none of those sports only let in the top 4 teams.

We are idiots as college football fans for letting this go on much too long. Wake up and realize that the poll system is broken horribly, and that means the BCS compilation is also fundamentally wrong. Until this is fixed, a plus one or 4 team playoff will solve NOTHING!

By drew

April 27, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

PLAYOFFS! PLAYOFFS! -Jim Mora Sr

I didn’t watch a single bowl game last year, other than the “national championship” game. And I’ll continue to boycott the bowl (i.e. exhibition) games until a playoff system is in place.

BTW….let’s make it the top 8 teams. 8 teams, 7 games, one true national champion.

By Jim

April 27, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

I believe the system is in place and it just needs a little tweaking to work. The following tweaks are suggested: 1. All teams play a 12 game regular season schedule. 2. All teams have a conf. play-off or not. 3. Teams are ranked by the BCS system throughout the season. 4. Bowls bid on the games. 5. Bowl games match even and odd teams down the ranking order, ie. 1 vs 3, 5 vs 7—- and 2 vs 4, 6 vs 8—-. 6. Plus one for a championship where the winner of 1 vs 3 and 2 vs 4 play each other. 7. All teams start the next season ranked as they ended the last season.

By P Dawg

April 27, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

jim, why rank this years team based on last years players? Makes no sense.

By Cuz

April 27, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

The winners of the four majors play each other, then one more for a real NC not an MNC.

By Roswell Ed

April 27, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

Jim,

That last idea is at best moronic.

I’m an AU fan and when they finished 1st in 2004 among amateur teams they in no way deserved to be ranked #2 the next year.

They lost FOUR 1st round players that year to the draft.

Use your head for something other then a hat rack.

PS What is up with the U of L receiver in the 3rd round?

By Jim

April 27, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

I guess there is two sides of a coin. Starting the year ranked the position you ended last year you are defending that position. Yes Roswell Ed each year all teams lose players to the draft, and some years more than others. Evaluating a team is a combination of players, coaches, and recruiting. Hopefully the recruiting and coaching results in the gaps being filled as players leave. Time will tell if they hold their rankings as each week passes. Preseason ranking are for the press and hipe just as rating a recruiting class. It all looks good on paper until it’s exposed on the field.

By Fan of Fair Play

April 27, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

The AJC got it right when they pointed the finger at the BCS conference commissioners as the culprits of wanting to maintain the status quo. The NCAA has allowed the BCS conferences too much power. College athletics is a business and the business practices of the BCS conferences are unfair.

If we are going to leave it up to the BCS conferences to create a national championship, you can bet it will be done in their best interest. These conference commissioners work daily for obtaining every dollar possible for their conference. They cannot and should not be expected to draw up a national championship for all 120 members.

The NCAA is to blame for this mess. They have been asleep at the wheel as more and more schools have entered the Football Bowl Subdivision (D-I A). The NCAA has welcomed these schools and then in effect said, “good luck becoming a member of a conference and getting a schedule. Oh by the way, you can’t play for a national championship”. What if the NFL treated their expansion teams the same way?

Any playoff system that doesn’t address the inequality that exists with the current conference alignments. Visit www.truenationalchampionship.com for a radical plan for fixing this mess.

By Fan of Fair Play

April 27, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this

The AJC got it right when they pointed the finger at the BCS conference commissioners as the culprits of wanting to maintain the status quo. The NCAA has allowed the BCS conferences too much power. College athletics is a business and the business practices of the BCS conferences are unfair.

If we are going to leave it up to the BCS conferences to create a national championship, you can bet it will be done in their best interest. These conference commissioners work daily for obtaining every dollar possible for their conference. They cannot and should not be expected to draw up a national championship for all 120 members.

The NCAA is to blame for this mess. They have been asleep at the wheel as more and more schools have entered the Football Bowl Subdivision (D-I A). The NCAA has welcomed these schools and then in effect said, “good luck becoming a member of a conference and getting a schedule. Oh by the way, you can’t play for a national championship”. What if the NFL treated their expansion teams the same way?

Any playoff system that doesn’t address the inequality that exists with the current conference alignments will fall short. Visit www.truenationalchampionship.com for a radical plan for fixing this mess.

By hunterj6

April 27, 2008 8:36 PM | Link to this

If your conference did not participate in a championship game you should not be allowed any BCS games

By Ironman_33

April 27, 2008 11:15 PM | Link to this

I believe there should be a 16 team playoff. You take the top teams in your so called perfect poll being far to every conference, not only the larger ones because they all should be equal. If a team from the ACC can win a championship a team from the WAC should also be eligible. After eight teams are eliminated you use your four big name bowls and take the eight remaining teams and seed them by rank, there after having a national semi final and championship games in the same designated sight where ever that may be. But you also still continue to use the regular bowl system for the teams that where not eligible for this 16 team playoff.

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this

Even 16 teams would have controversy, but Plus one (4 teams) would have way less than it has now.

By GT_Rich

April 29, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

It is simple. Everyone has an 11 game season. 8 team playoff to begin the Saturday after conf championship games. The 6 BCS conf champs are automatically in. Using the BCS formula, two more at-large teams are invited. Seeding based upon BCS, with top four seeds hosting a home game. Four losers still get invites to a bowl game. Semi-finals are in two of the BCS bowls on new years. 7-13 days later, the national championship game is played on a Monday. Two teams would end up playing 14 or 15 games depending on whether they had a conf championship game. Four of last year’s top 25 teams played 14 games so cutting the regular season to 11 reduces the impact to players. Besides, players on a top 8 team dream of going pro and would welcome the extra exposure and playing time. After deducting travel costs for 4 teams, TV revenue of the first playoff round gets shared with all D1 schools to offset loss of 12th regular season game.

By Cuz

April 29, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Alt, once again we take the complex and make it simple. Probably won’t make the coast till July or August, most likely August. Baylie goes to the Mayo clinic in early July this year.

By O-ZONE

April 30, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

Mr. Moore, your big complaint is simple. Ryan is white. Sorry, but some people were born that way.

By SimpleGenius

April 30, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

Anyone who thinks a four team playoff would diminish the regular season is a blooming idiot. Do the math. 10 teams qualify for the BCS bowls each year and only 4 teams would qualify for a 4 team playoff. Which is harder to make it into?

By the way 12 teams make the NFL play off and it is still the most popular pro sport.

Your diminishing regular season argument is just a*******anine.