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By J.T.

March 11, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

I said once and im saying it again. The falcons need to draft josh johnson in the second or third round in the draft or give D.J. shockley a chance if they want to have any type of success next year. If you havent notice scrambling QB’s are in. I mean Vick was 80 percent of the team. We need a QB just like that except one who doesnt fight w/ dogs. Josh Johnson will be the future of the falcons, he deserves a chance also they should start him immediately because when the titans didnt start vince young their first year they had him they had no chance then when vince came in he took over and almost got them to the playoffs his rookie year. LET JOSH JOHNSON come in and take over GIVE THIS ROOKIE A CHANCE ATLANTA HE”LL MAKE US HAPPY

By Dawgs

March 12, 2008 12:32 AM | Link to this

Seen tape of Johnson. Not impressed. I don’t know if I can buy into the hype of any of this years QB’s. Flacco looked like a stud but its one thing to do it at a pro day or a combine and another to do it in a game. Brohm to me looks like the most ready to start day one but I don’t like him at #3. If he could be had for D.Hall traded pick I would go for it. Matt Ryan to me looks a lot like a really good back up / average starter in the league. We need something above average and I just don’t feel that there is a “stud” in this draft. Flacco or Brohm might prove me wrong but I doubt it.

By Singletary

March 12, 2008 12:41 AM | Link to this

Josh J and Brian B both have potential. Even Flacco, Ainge & Henne have potential as lower round pix. I’m just convinced Matt Ryan is not “da man” in any context and particularly not #3.

For example, the word from CLE is that DAnderson’s gotten a bit cocky in the locker room… and all Brady Quinn does is work out and study film, endearing him to the line. Find a true student of the position not an agent-hyped draftee, and I’ll say trade/switch/offer a non first round pick to get a learned QB.

Otherwise, the wall that is Jake Long looks good to me!

By DawgNCA

March 12, 2008 2:56 AM | Link to this

A lot of BAD QBs listed above. But in all honesty, no, ATL is not the worst out there. Redman started to turn a corner at the end of last season. I don’t expect he’ll be great or anything, but he’ll do better than Harrington and Leftwich did as a full-time starter. Harrington is a question mark, but he should make for a decent 2nd stringer if Coach Smith accomplishes his goal of fortifying the O-Line. And though I hate to say it, I doubt Shockley will make the final team. Besides, I think we all pretty much think that that the Falcons will draft another QB, whether it be in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd round…so this is all a pointless discussion anyway. If we don’t get Brohm or Ryan early on or trade down for Flacco late in the first, we’ll get somebody like Henne in the 2nd round.

By Hawkers2

March 12, 2008 5:29 AM | Link to this

Not the worst yet! But for are you GA. fans out there. Shockley isn’t the answer and probably wouldn’t be on any other NFL team.

By SeminoleWarrior

March 12, 2008 6:55 AM | Link to this

I’ve stated it before in these forums and I will say it again. The best QB is this draft this year is Brian Brohm. Look at the body of work he has over the last four years. Look at his lineage in terms of his development. He has been influenced directly and indirectly by all of the key players or students of the key players that led to the successes of Montana, Young, Favre, and Brunell. Check the record and see. It’s Brohm or nothing this year.

By SCBird

March 12, 2008 7:23 AM | Link to this

Is it a slow news week? Is this really you guys’ hometown newspaper? I’m sure there are stories more newsworthy than this? Just sad.

By toshie

March 12, 2008 7:33 AM | Link to this

Yes at the present time we have the worst QB’S in the league. DJ was only a part time starter at GA. We know Harrington has been in the league for 5 years and has sucked everwhere he has been. The jury is out on Redman. We didn’t get to see enough of him to really form an opion. Maybe he is getting hisself into football shape during the off season. He is accurate with his passes. Don’t know I could scream!!!!

By malone

March 12, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

Give Shockley a shot!

By Matt

March 12, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

Don’t think our group of QB’s is all that bad. Put Tom Brady or a Peyton Manning under the likes of Bobby Petrino and I think the results wouldn’t be so good either!!! I say we draft the Offensive lineman from Michigan and work on the offensive line, and that along with a good running game I believe we can have some success with the 3 QB’s we got! GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!

By GATORZONE

March 12, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

I agree with you Matt. Let’s not forget about the Minnesota Vikings set of QBs, they are pretty bad too.

By jeanE

March 12, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

We don’t have the worst QB’s in the league, we have the worst 0-line in the league, get the correlation? I am Joey guy, he was vastly underappreciated for what he did/suffered through last season & still managed to lead us to 4 wins! Not impressed with Redman. And if they draft a QB at #3, I’ll throw up. None of those QB’s is what we need, we need to improve our 0-line & d-line and go from there. I’m so glad Joey is back!!!

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

I keep hearing that DJ was only a “part-time starter” at UGA… That’s because he was behind the all time winningest college qb of all time… If a qb continues to win, you have to keep him in the game… And when he left, what happened? DJ came in and threw 26-28 tds against 6 ints… Not to mention, he won the SEC Championship… And what most of you are saying is that Atlanta’s oline is horrible… So wouldn’t a scrambling QB make sense? I was baffled when I heard that Harrington got resigned… This guy is one of the biggest busts in history… But, DJ deserves a shot, Redman deserves to be kept, and the Falcons will draft a qb… Hopefully, the most we see from Joey is how well he keeps the team hydrated… And by the way, I don’t want to hear that “Joey has never been on a good team”… That’s just an excuse!

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By B-man

March 12, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

jeanE - ????? you are a “Joey Guy” but not impressed with Redman????? Petrino and vick aside, did you not notice the rest of the team’s reaction when Redman took the field? I’m telling you people, there is something to this guy. he will be better than most think. The troops rally around him. Why? I dont know but the proof is in those last 4 games. He had one bad game, but then again, nobody on the whole darn team showed up that day. Harrington is a good guy but he is afraid to throw the ball when he needs to, then he tries to overcome his natural fear and forces it.

By Edgar

March 12, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

This league is QB driven. I don’t care who’s available as far as OL, DL, CB, Safety, RB or any of the positions for that matter except one!!! We have to draft the best QB out there and we have to draft him as early as possible. I don’t care if it’s Matt Ryan, Brain Brohn, Joe Flacco or Josh Johnson. Just evaluate the best out there and draft the best QB possible as quick as possible. Look at the past 10 super bowls and you will see what I mean.

By David

March 12, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

The True #7…..so, what happened to that “all time winningest college starter” at UGA that Shockley was backup for? Seems to me if that guy hasn’t panned out as an NFL starter, why the heck would his back up? Shockley seems like a good kid, but he is not an NFL QB. The truth hurts, True.

By geaux saints

March 12, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Why don’t y’all give Aaron Brooks a call?

By JC

March 12, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

you can have loyalty to a fault…with that said, there is no way you can know anything about what it takes to be a NFL QB if you think Shockley should be our starter. he’s just a nicer Vick, and Vick never made it even after years of tailoring the team specifically around him. you know what running QB’s get in the NFL? injured knees! and what does Shockley have? an injured knee, so no matter how much you think Jesus must have graduated from UGA, it doesn’t make everyone from their with a diploma a viable starting NFL QB! please tell me you get it now.

By Falcon1

March 12, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

if you want shockley to be our starter, you aren’t a Falcons fan!

By JP

March 12, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

Yea I like Josh Johnson as well in the 2nd or 3rd. The kid is a player but he needs to add some weight.

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

David, And what happened to the 2nd all time winningest qb of all time? Peyton is doing well in Indy isn’t he? What DJ has that David doesn’t is a stronger arm and scrambling ability? Did you not read the entire post? You should… And by the way, the truth never hurts, when it’s the truth!

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By Sheri

March 12, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Regarding the comment about Redman: Did you ever stop to think that once Redman took the field, Petrino left. Maybe that is why everyone seemed to respond. They finally got away from an awful situation. Skill wise, Joey is better by far. Let training camp and preseason decide who is the starting QB. I don’t think anyone should have it handed to them after last year and wide open competition is what is needed.

By Dave

March 12, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

and Einstein, where is the all time winningest qb at UGA now? the guy that Shockley couldn’t beat out, what is he doing to light up the NFL? you idiots would want peerless price back if he played at UGA. open up you minds a little and let some fresh air get in frigging Neanderthals!

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

And JC, Which I am guessing you are trying to compare yourself to Jesus Christ… Get a life… I’m saying that DJ should be given a shot, Joey has been given multiple shots… And every one of them was an ill advised INT!

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By Sgt. Friday

March 12, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

to the brain surgeon that thinks we need a scrambling qb because we have a bad o-line, you know what else we can do? we can fix the o-line and then get a real nfl qb, what about that idea? you should fix the foundation before you fix the roof, not the other way around. and when something’s broke, fix it! don’t build around the hole. bet this moron has a big G on his mailbox, real classy stuff!

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

This is pointless.. You people want Joey “I haven’t done anything to prove myself” Harrington and Chris “Oh my god, I’m in the NFL again” Redman or a draft pick to start for the Falcons, and you think everyone else who thinks differently is not a Falcon fan? What scholars!?! No wonder this franchise has been on a steady decline… Please God, I hope none of you work in the Falcons organization, because I wish nothing but the best for them…

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By Kevin

March 12, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

DJ will not make the roster this year. His greatest asset was his scrambling ability, and he will need another year to recover from his knee injury before he gets back to full speed. The timing of that injury was awful, and he probably would have had a shot at starting at some point last year had he stayed healthy.

Redman will be the starter this season. The falcons will draft a quarterback (hopefully not at #3), and he will spend a year or two holding a clipboard. Joey is now an inexpensive veteran backup, leaving no room on the roster for DJ, and that’s a shame.

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Sgt, Are you going to do all that this year? Rebuilding an entire o line and training a draft pick to be a “real NFL qb”… Yeah, you’re right, that makes sense? I agree that the oline needs to be fixed, but so does the dline, and probably a corner once D hall is gone, not to mention a LB because brooking is getting old and williams is gone, and a decent TE because we all know how you feel about UGA players so I guess Milner won’t cut it… Quite a bit of fixing to do Seargent… Better get on all that, but make sure not to give UGA players a chance, because God forbid, you bring in more fans from the state of Georgia to the games?

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By JC

March 12, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

exactly K, Harrington and Redman should fight for starter, not the answer long term, but face it, Vick totally screwed this team and all the fans, especially the fans that went so far out of their way to support him. this thing will take a couple of years or more to shake out. so Harrington and Redman 1 and 2 with our draft pick learning the ropes and working his way up the ladder. and I too hope they don’t pick a QB at #3, it should be Dorsey all the way. but there is something Harrington and Redman do have that we need, they are decent people, with good attitudes, they aren’t show-offs, they want to be here and they want to win. all things we need on this team right now, but they aren’t the future, but they could be quality back-ups for years to come.

By JC

March 12, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

only an idiot would try to compare themselves to Jesus (see George Bush) and only an idiot would automatically think that anybody with the same initials as anybody else that ever lived in history is always omparing themselves to the people of the past. my wonderful mother named me after a man I greatly admire, my grandfather John Christopher, wish you could have known him, he would made you a better person too, might even have you think a little outside of Athens, so you could see there is a whole world out there with endless knowledge to be gained, if you’re willing to open your eyes a little. I think Shockley, from what I’ve seen, is a really good person and I wish him well. but if he starts in the NFL, I hope it’s on another team, and hopefully one in our division so we can count on at least two wins every year.

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

JC, I’m sure he was… But I guarantee everyone else in the NFC South is hoping Joey starts again this year… EASY PICKINGS! All I ever said was DJ should be given a shot… What is the matter with that? Joey got a shot, he was horrible, as usual… Byron got a shot, he was too… Redman got a shot, he was ok… But don’t give DJ a shot? why?

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By Sgt. Friday

March 12, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

I like UGA, just don’t think we should be making it our farm team. all eligible college players should be looked at for NFL QB ability without any bias. that’s the only way you can hope to get the right guy for the job. we had a running QB, I’ve seen running QB’s in the past in the NFL and they just don’t win championships. but pocket passers with decent o-lines do.

By JC

March 12, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

this is unfortunately a rebuilding year. no one should here should expect to make the playoffs this year. if it happens great but Vick left this team and this city in a funk! and it just isn’t going to be turned around quickly. but just because it may not be turned around quickly doesn’t mean that we should put the wrong guy in at QB. especially if the only reason he is wanted at QB is because he’s black or went to UGA. there’s more important hiring criteria.

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

And I’m not the one who said anything about Jesus graduating from UGA… Even though, if he did, he could definitely pull some strings for us this year! Haha

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By The True #7

March 12, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Maybe I’m not making myself clear… ALL I SAID IS GIVE DJ A SHOT… a shot, means give him a chance… If it doesn’t work out then so be it… I never said that the reason he should get a shot is because he is black or from UGA… I believe everyone else got a shot and we went 4-12… So what’s the matter with giving DJ a shot…

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By JC

March 12, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

DJ should be given a shot in training camp, everyone should have an equal chance to be the starter. this year no matter who is on the team, we are not going to have the person who will be the eventual starter we are looking for long term. but we could solidify some quality back-ups for the future and DJ could be one of those people. just in my opinion, I don’t think running QB’s get it done in the NFL. you have to be where the line knows to block for you, instead of running all around and having the line block people into you sometimes by mistake. summary: DJ-quality person, from what seems to have been a quality upbringing, but only a college QB. I wouldn’t have Vick back on the team even as a kick returner, but DJ would be a decent 3rd string QB as insurance to have on the team.

By Shade

March 12, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

I the falcons QBs will be fine now that Petrino is gone. As long as the O line gets fixed. Lets face it no one could have done good last year with how the o line looked and with a coach setting them up to fail. Improve the o line and get the running game going and I say these QBs will be just fine. So they are not the worst QBs in the NFL, they just didn’t have the support last year. Also, I say if the falcons draft a QB with the 3rd pick of the draft, then they are making a mistake. Get the best linemen with that pick defense or offense. Frankly, I disappointed with you. If you are Atlanta’s newspaper then start acting like it. You should be supporting the team not bashing them. TD knows what he is doing just give him a chance.

By Shade

March 12, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

I think the falcons QBs will be fine now that Petrino is gone. As long as the O line gets fixed. Lets face it no one could have done good last year with how the o line looked and with a coach setting them up to fail. Improve the o line and get the running game going and I say these QBs will be just fine. So they are not the worst QBs in the NFL, they just didn’t have the support last year. Also, I say if the falcons draft a QB with the 3rd pick of the draft, then they are making a mistake. Get the best linemen with that pick defense or offense. Frankly, I’m disappointed with you. If you are Atlanta’s newspaper then start acting like it. You should be supporting the team not bashing them. TD knows what he is doing just give him a chance.

By Shade

March 12, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

I think the falcons QBs will be fine now that Petrino is gone. As long as the O line gets fixed. Lets face it no one could have done good last year with how the o line looked and with a coach setting them up to fail. Improve the o line and get the running game going and I say these QBs will be just fine. So they are not the worst QBs in the NFL, they just didn’t have the support last year. Also, I say if the falcons draft a QB with the 3rd pick of the draft, then they are making a mistake. Get the best linemen with that pick defense or offense. Frankly, I’m disappointed with you. If you are Atlanta’s newspaper then start acting like it. You should be supporting the team not bashing them. TD knows what he is doing just give him a chance.

By mars

March 12, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

Yeah, we don’t want any bench riders from UGA! Look how badly Denver suffered after putting their faith in that benchrider from UGA named Terrell Davis! Yeah, we don’t want any mistakes like that!

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Also, Mike Smith came from Jacksonville, who has a qb that has mobility… It’s just a thought…

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By marko

March 12, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Are the Falcon’s quarter backs the worst in the league? Who knows, Peyton Manning would have sucked on last years team. Very few quarter backs can run for their lives at a hundred miles an hour like Micheal did. Look at Joey’s picture,it’s hard to look like a hero sitting on your butt. By the way if you find yourself dining at a fancy resturant,don’t order the Petrino. It’s Italian for mountain oysters.

By mars

March 12, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

Ohe, no! We want someone who was a regular starter, and trained by an established offensive guru! So, lets go with that Petrino trained winner Brian Brohm, instead of that Terrell Davis-like bench rider from UGA Shockley! Geez, people!

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Mars, I can’t believe I forgot all about that… I think that speaks more about the character that DJ has… He could have went elsewhere and been a starter, but he stayed… PURE CLASS!

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By Jack

March 12, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

I agree- give DJ a shot…We’re gonna suck anyway -why not? It’s not like we’re benching Brady or Manning to play him

By Jack

March 12, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

I agree- give DJ a shot…We’re gonna suck anyway -why not? It’s not like we’re benching Brady or Manning to play him

By mars

March 12, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Farm team? UGA players don’t play for the Falcons! They lead true contenders to championships in the NFL! There is no way they would allow this team to hamper their success by submitting to “farm team” status! And just when have the Falcons ever fielded a team that could defeat UGA? Never, and probably never will!

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

And by the way Mars, Don’t bother… these people on here would rather have the qbs who guided us to that tremendous 4-12 record or a draft pick be given the starting job automatically before even seeing what DJ can do… BRILLIANT?

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By EazyB

March 12, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

I think you have to be a little guarded about going out and giving this QB spot to a rookie or overspending for a free-agent or giving up picks for a trade. Let Redman have his shot. Is he the long term answer? Probably not. But he’s a coach’s son and would be a solid backup in the future. Wait and pick wisely your QB of the future. There are enough problems with this team that I doubt there is anyone available that could truly make a difference. Vick’s situation hit this team hard. It will take a few years to get back up. Just be patient.

By mars

March 12, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

Ther are no descent QBs in the draft or in free agency this year, and the forecast for next year is grim as well! Rather than burn opportunities on losers, like most of you brain surgeons are suggesting, why don’t we rebuild our line and defense, positions that the draft happens to be rich in? When hell freezes over, right guys? Morons!

By someone smart

March 12, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

The running QB doen’t work. If the Falcons were to pickup someone like Chad Johnson to catch the ball. B/c every falcons reciever is awful. Everyone would kiss ground that harringtion walks-on. What Peyton be without #87 and #88, were would brady be without moss or branch in the past. Stop with racial BS and get over Vick. Let’s draft passing QB and move one.

By mars

March 12, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

It’ll be at least 2 years for the “QB of the future’ is even available. Unfortunately, that won’t be enought time to keep us from making a move to further our own misery. PLEASE DO NOT DRAFT ANY QB AT ALL!

By Gabriel,Canada, Quebec, Chibougamau

March 12, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

I think the flacons need to draft a QB this year but not in the 1st round. Draft Joe Flacco or Chad henne in the 2nd round and let’s him play sometime this year with chris Redman. GO FALCONS !!!! Sorry for the fault I speak french !!!!:P

By Gabriel,Canada, Quebec, Chibougamau

March 12, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

I think the flacons need to draft a QB this year but not in the 1st round. Draft Joe Flacco or Chad henne in the 2nd round and let’s him play sometime this year with chris Redman. GO FALCONS !!!! Sorry for the fault I speak french !!!!:P

By paul

March 12, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

no I don;t think that

By Pogo Stick Comments

March 12, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Please don’t use Jesus name in vain, keep it football, Vick didn’t leave this team in a funk, he left his life in turmoil, he lifted this city to be respected amongst other NFL cities, one man did this alone and we continue to curse his name..What he did was wrong but we should be past this and not continue to throw stones but only keep it football. I feel even if we had a decent line only two of our QB’s are actually capable of handling and managing the game and Harrington isn’t one of them. Now its alot of people that might not agree with me but in what I am saying and that’s okay we are all subjective to our opinions. I really don’t care if we draft a QB in the first I just hope we replace 75% of our line and that Wayne Gandy isn’t the only one out. I hope we build as big as Cleveland Browns line or Dallas Cowboys. If we could I hope to get Dorsey Levens or Jake Long, my point is that the source of Atlanta’s problem isn’t the QB - If you build a new house on a broken foundation the house will continue to spew out from within, the same issues will occur with shining pieces attached. So I hope that they really build a solid foundation because if we draft a QB high thats called early murder.

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Someone smart? Chad Johnson isn’t going anywhere… Roddy White is pretty decent… Harrington had receivers in Detroit…

And Mars, I have been saying that exact same thing, minus not drafting a qb… We should draft one, at least in 2nd-3rd round… And get rid of Harrington, again… But definitely draft oline and defense… Because DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS!

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By The True #7

March 12, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

Amen Pogo

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By d.c.

March 12, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

I’m with jeanE. Build the O-Line and give it to Joey. He’s a character guy with alot of heart and he will take care of the ball. Edgar, you shouldn’t talk about things you don’t know…Trent Dilfer/Baltimore Ravens in 2000. Defense wins championships.

By Zeb McKluskey

March 12, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

True#7 and mars, gotta agree with you guys. We absolutely need to fix the front lines on both sides of the ball. I don’t know why some people on here think that just because we’re Ga fans, we think all UGA players walk on water. That’s just not the case. DJ is a Falcon, and noone has really seen what he can do. Just a shot is all we’re asking. I mean geez, he didn’t start a game for 3 years and won a SEC championship once the team was his. Can’t be that bad of a QB. The SEC ain’t no cake walk.

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

D.C. WHAT? Joey takes care of the ball? Since when? A QB rating of 69.4 with 79 tds and 85 ints in 6 years… I beg to differ!

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By The True #7

March 12, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Thanks Zeb He can’t do worse than the carousel we had last year… I hope we trade D hall for another 1st rounder so more holes can be filled, not to mention the self proclaimed “best cover corner” gets burned by everyone… We need d lineman, LB (love the guy, but Brooking is past his prime), Secondary help, O lineman, and maybe another TE… There’s no need in wasting the #3 pick on a QB… I think Dimitroff will make the right decisions though…

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By Pogo Stick Comments

March 12, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Thanks “The True #7”

By marko

March 12, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

If you’ve ever seen pictures of Washington crossing the Delaware, you’ll notice that he’s standing. Even the father of our country looks less than heroic sitting on his fanny. I can’t remember the last time a Falcon’s offensive lineman attended a pro bowl. Untill we correct that little problem it won’t matter much who’s getting knocked on their can.

By tb

March 12, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

You gotta like what the team is doing with the FA; They are stock piling mediocre (by NFL standards) talent at every position of need. What that will do for us is two-fold; give us depth and allow us more freedom to maneuver during the draft.

I like the strategy. I will be very happy if I see us pick a lot of O and D linemen during the draft.

I also think we might be better to wait till next year to try to get the next QB. I don’t want any of them at #3. If Brohm really slips and is there in the second, take him. If not, get the muscle to make us competitive again. If someone offers a two for one type we could get a good lineman and Brohm. That would be worth looking into.

Like I said; I’d be happy watching the team build the lines.

By joebrave

March 12, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

whew! At least no is clammoring for the return of MV7!!! Flaccoooooooooooooooo!!!!

By SpringMan

March 12, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Harrington wasn’t signed for trade bait and Redman’s proven he deserves first shot, so if they pick Brohm, Flacco, Ainge or Henne in any round - and they will - DJ’s gone. D’angelo, I’m sorry to say seriously is also gone but it won’t be till he becomes part of a draft package.

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Well SpringMan, If your observations are correct then that’s sad… Sign a QB that has proven to be a bust, and cut a QB that has yet to be given a chance to prove himself… But no love lost over D Hall…

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By SpringMan

March 12, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

To the “The true No. 7” just an fyi when speaking of Harrington’s career QB rating of 69.4 - true - but MV only only has a 75.8. Neither of those figures impress me. You’re also right, Harrington did have receivers in Detroit but again, like Vick, no line in front of him to speak of (and an inane coach to boot).

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

To Spring Man Since you like comparing QBs… Compare MV7’s and Joey’s winning percentages… Did Joey ever lead a team to the Playoffs? Just FYI… Being that Joey supposedly deserves to be on the team, while DJ supposedly doesn’t…

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By SeminoleWarrior

March 12, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

The QBs are not as bad as it appears but we need an upgrade. The team was lost from the start due to having a coach that was clearly out of his league. The mistake was entrusting too much to the talents of one man. Pittsburgh, Kansas City, NY Jets, and St Louis all gave up more sacks than ATL but did not get killed in the press like we did because they did not put all their eggs in on basket. There is young OL talent on the roster. Pennington has starting right tackle experience, Blalock is a natural right side player, and we can move Clabo to left guard. Ask yourself this question? If Brohm is not the answer, then why are Tampa and Carolina placing a premium on working him out. Yes, the same Bucs and Panthers we will play twice a year. Draft Brohm early, restructure the line with the talent we have yet to truly evaluate and let’s see what we have this coming season.

By Palmpressure

March 12, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

All of those so-called falcon fans who dislike the idea of given D.J. Shockley an opportunity at quarterback, knows that if D.J. gets a geniure start at three games, he would establish himself as the immediate heir to the falcon’s quarterback throne. All of this whining about “he’s not all this or that,” is bull. Outside of Steve Bartkowski and Michael Vick, D.J. Shockley is the best quarterback the falcons have ever had and probably will ever have. Neither Steve Bartkowski or Michael Vick had much to work with. And I,m pretty sure, D.J. won’t have either. Atlanta has always been a loser. And drafting hype-up rookie quarterbacks won’t chance that. Start with an owner who will stand by his players though thick-and thin and one who doesn’t listen to the voices of few near-minded people who can’t embrace the idea of change and opportunity. That type of owner will give us a winning team no matter whose at quarterback.

By nativefalcon

March 12, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Does anybody else think the city of Atlanta has got the WORST NEWSPAPER IN THE WORLD? THey need a competition. Kick the team down some more. The AJC paper, the only good thing its good for is wiping your azz with it.

By SpringMan

March 12, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

Never said DJ didn’t deserve a shot. Do I think he deserves a chance? Absolutely. But like it or not a torn acl for a run’n gunner has the FO in FB more than a tad concerned. As for the MV vs Harrington comparison I’m surprised you left out that Joey never was in the pool for league MVP, several times player of the week, etc. etc. There is no comparison. If I’m given the opp to choose players on “talent” alone it’d be MV. But I like to focus on players that currently are “able” to play.

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

My guess is it was written by Terence Moore… He hates Atlanta sports, yet is employed by AJC? Makes no sense…

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By SpringMan

March 12, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

true no. 7…..DJ deserves a shot and if he gets and holds on to no.1, I’ll be for him - just don’t see a run ‘n gunner ever coming completely back from a torn acl. RE: MV vs JH comparison, dude you started it. Surprised you didn’t say that MV was league MVP candidate, multiple time player of week, etc. etc. Based on “talent” there’s NO comparison. Based on availability Joey’s currently got a big edge

By jerry l

March 12, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Falcons QB’s not leagues worst. I would say that KC’s and Oakland’s were the worst.

Our draft focus (Rd. 1-3) should be on DL and OL. Later rounds find a QB in the rough Ky. Woodson would be nice fit.

By Rick

March 12, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

It will be interesting how this plays out- maybe Joey isn’t the most skilled, but you gotta admit he’s got heart- the hit he took right when he threw that TD to Alge against hte Panties would probably have put most of us on the bench. Anyway, I tend to agree wtih most- beef up the Oline and see which QB comes out on top .We just might be surprised….

By nick

March 12, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

Our QB situation may not be great, but we can win with the QB’s we have if we can draft quality players for our other needs, like the O and D lines. the panthers got to the SB with Jake Delhomme, and i don’t think he’s much better than any of our current QB’s. i think we should just focus on defense and oline in the earlier part of the draft and maybe draft a QB in a LATE round to compete with Redman and Shockey this year. maybe we can have a LATE-first round pick next year to spend on a QB as the last piece of the puzzle.

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

Spring Man, DJ is currently able to play yet you focused on him being cut… He sat the year out last year, he is extremely well rested, yet you believe that if they draft a QB, that means DJ is gone… Your logic is off… I know of many athletes that have come back from a torn ACL, yet you count him out? You are entitled to your opinion, but I beg to differ… If they draft a qb, the first person that should be cut is Joey… He has proven repeatedly to be incapable of making decisions when pressured… I doubt the line will change much this year, so why expect Joey to be different? I don’t… And people forget, that Joey is the one who blames others repeatedly… He whined in Detroit, Miami, and Atlanta…

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By The True #7

March 12, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

“To the “The true No. 7” just an fyi when speaking of Harrington’s career QB rating of 69.4 - true - but MV only only has a 75.8. Neither of those figures impress me. You’re also right, Harrington did have receivers in Detroit but again, like Vick, no line in front of him to speak of (and an inane coach to boot).”

I’m Sorry, who started it?

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By The True #7

March 12, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

And I never said anything about MV coming back and playing, but I don’t see why Joey is even in the conversation of being the starting qb next year… He had his chance, and he blew it, AGAIN… How many chances will this guy get?

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By Bravo

March 12, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Scouting report on Josh Johnson:

Josh Johnson/San Diego: Has a quick release and threw nice outs but cannot throw the deep pass. Long balls consistently wobbled like lame ducks and receivers were constantly waiting on throws.

Don’t we already have a couple of QB’s like that - why draft one?

By Harry Rand

March 12, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

I BEG YOU SPORTS WRITERS PLEASE DESIST IN YOUR LOVE AFFAIR WITH THAT LOSER AND CANCER MIKE VICK. EVERY DAY THERE IS ANOTHER STORY ABOUT SOMEONE EVERYONE WANTS TO FORGET.

By Najeh Davenpoop

March 12, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick is still on the roster, so no, the Falcons don’t have the worst QBs in the league. In fact, even without Vick it’s debatable whether the Falcons’ QB situation is even the worst in the division. Carolina’s QB situation is pretty bad too.

By mcdawg

March 12, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

did we hire a coach yet?

By saint

March 12, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

Fortunately our new fearless leaders will decide our QB. I thought Redman showed up better than Harrington, both with little line support, but we will have to wait. Use #3 for a LT. Sounds like we are looking at Brohm, but reports have him going early in the first round.

By BUSHWACKER

March 12, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

I’ll take joey or redman over any of those losers. DJ has yet to get his shot, once he does, super bowl here we come.

BARTENDER, make that next one a double!

By Pete

March 12, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

The NFL is currently littered with mediocre QB’s. They’re everywhere !!! The Falcon’s have nothing to feel insecure about in that dept. We need help on the lines………..both sides. The rest is getting better daily with Thomas Dimitroff at the helm. Thank God for him !!!!!!

By Falcon to the bone

March 12, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Collectively our guys aren’t the worst. It’s a crap shoot with any one of them as starter. I’ll bet we make a change after game 4 either way. What sticks in my mind was the awesome game DJ was having when he got hurt. Do you guys rememember? He looked like MV out there, but he pushed it and the knee went out.

By Rod

March 12, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

DJ SHOCKLEY is one of my favorite players on the team. I want to see what he can do. All he did was win a sec championship as starter and would have one a national championship if he didnt miss the florida game. The AJC sports has good writers but I wish they would focus on the future which is DJ and Blue skys Joey and 30 somethin Red Man.

By SB

March 12, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

I think KC and Miami have the worst QB’s. BRAVO I read a report something like that one… but I didn’t see anything about him not being able top throw the deep ball. Infact the report said his ball wobbled because he gripped it to tight a result of nervousness. It went on to say he could make every throw and threw the ball 3 times as well on his Pro- Day. I can post it if you like.

By Neckville Rednecks

March 12, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

woodson 3th round S.E.C. passing leader 2007. none are worth a 1th rounder . we need linemen all over the place. FIX the LINE!!! none in the draft will help next year none!

By Cj

March 12, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

For all the people commenting on how Shockley is not NFL qb, he has not been given a shot to play. The only reason he was not drafted highly is because of his perceived lack of experience. The best move for the falcons to make is to solidify both lines and pick up a qb in a later round to vie for the job against Redman and Shockley. I just think Harrington is a backup. So please shut up about Shockley needing to be cut, none of us have a clue of how he would do in the starting role.

By jrod

March 12, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

The falcons are a bad team. I think they should move on from vick and draft ryan or plan to keep vick and build up other areas. As long as he is on the roster you cant move past him.

I personally think there is way too much anger towards vick. I mean how long is everyone going to blame this guy for all the problems and then in the same breath say “he wasnt no good anyway.” You should be happy he is gone. Falcons PLEASE cut him so this team and fans can take some personal responsiblilty.

By Neckville Rednecks

March 12, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this

By dawgs

March 12, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

It does’nt matter who the QB is,if they can’t stand up. We need to build the offensive line. A good line will make a bad QB look good. No O-line, no chance.Ask Tom Brady.

By SB

March 12, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

Guys I like DJ and I wasn’t opposed to giving him a shot at starting QB last season, but I watched him play at Georgia. Talent is their but he still hasn’t put it together. The Falcons should draft A QB just not with one of the first 3 picks. Early third I think is the best move. Johnson, Henn, and Woodson should be their. Build the O and D-line with the 1rst and 2nd round picks. Jake Long, Glenn Dorsey, or S. Eliis in the first. Dre Moore, Sam Baker, or Pat Simms withe first of the 2nd round picks. Chilio with the 2nd second round pick. QB in the 3rd. I’d go with Johnson.

By ub

March 12, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this

Falcons need to draft linemen and wait for Stafford in a couple of years. He’ll have one maybe two nat. championships under his belt.Mike Kenn was out of Michigan, that seemed to work out pretty well.

By Oledawg

March 12, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this

DJ was and is a scrambling qb. I thought the Falcons were setup for his style.You have already been informed of his record on paper(won the SEC outright,didn’t play in the Fl loss),but you didn’t touch those intangibles that made his play great. He is tough,intelligent and can play the game better than anything I’ve seen from Harrington’s career. Redman is competitive and is a great athlete. DJ played well in the games he was in. Comparing all of these guys to others by using Harrington as the model on the team is unfair and ignorant of each qb’s talents.DJ shines above all the other team qb’s you mentioned. Why are you laying the lumber to Falcon qb’s? It stinks of sensational prose. to elicit responses to your “writing” .

Start DJ and Redman in practice and take note when comparing to Harrington. You may find something worth writing.

By hank755

March 12, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this

Minnesota Vikings have the worst quarterbacks hands down…Falcons could easily be middle of the round in the right system with something that resembles an NFL offensive line. Draft Jake Long!

By dirty byrd

March 12, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

we have seen bad play by any qb yes even brady got beat this past season look at his stats for that game pretty sad, why we kept joey is to train he knows how to do it just does not have skills on the field and no one blocking so he fails, but he is smart in being able to take a up coming qb and help him be ready to play for this team he and our qb coach musgrave will train who ever we draft this year.. 2008 its redman and run the football, think our gm and coach are on the same page and i do like there plan, we will all feel better after this yrs draft so till then JUST CHILL THEY GOT THIS!!

By S. Fowler

March 12, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

I do not feel any of the quarterbacks in this year’s draft are worthy of a first round pick. I agree with Dawgs, Flacco looks good. I’d prefer the Falcons draft Flacco over Ryan or Brohm.

I think the best bet is to trade that 3rd pick for more early picks. Strengthen the offensive line with those picks and give D.J. a chance.

I believe the majority of Falcons fans are prepared to a 2 to 3 year rebuilding process. Let’s make the most out of those years.

By tom jackson

March 12, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this

I believe that kanss city, baltimore and oakland give us a close race. No matter who has the worst, thwe greatest quartrback in the nfl could not survive the preasure of our quarterbacks last year. Fix the line, move to a more running offense with some power, teach the basic skills of blocking, and you will see a better production from our quarterbacks. I am a Bulldog fan from wayback, but I do not believe Mr S. will ever be a good starter. Mr H has some knowledge and can help us build a young quarterback into a very good quarterback. The draft offer some good potential.

By The True #7

March 12, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

Why does everyone think Joey could train a young qb? He is still a young qb, but the problem is he has no idea what he’s doing? Did anyone watch the audibles he called last year? He is out of his league… Way out… He has proven that over his last 6 years…

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By David Duke

March 12, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

The Falcons will be excommunicated from the Bad QB Club as soon as they boot Shlockley’s sorry a* out of the NFL!

By Ben S.

March 12, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this

A good o-line will give Chris Redman time to make decent throws. He’s never going to be a stand out quarterback, so he’s really got nothing to lose. This gives him the ability to not be afraid to throw the football and get rid of it quickly. Harrington will never be anything in the NFL, resigning him was stupid. Stupid. He doesn’t have the confidence or the leadership to be good. He’ll always be seen as the pretty white boy from Oreagon. Shockley was great at UGA- Go Dawgs. But a scrambling quarterback will never work in the NFL. Defenses are too good and those quarterbacks are too cocky to use their talents properly. They constantly want to run instead of using their legs as a last resort. Take Jake Long and be patient enough to wait for the right quarterback to come along. Matt Ryan can be a great NFL QB… just not in Atlanta.

By tyoung

March 12, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this

The Falcons have to be the worst team in the league when it comes to the draft. Last year, they made no attempt to trade up for Calvin Johnson…probably one of the best college players the draft has seen in a while. Now this year, a simply stunning running back who is everything old adrian peterson wishes he could be…and instead of putting eggs in that basket, they sign a guy who barely has ever played 10% of snaps. And why not give shockley a chance…just to throw out some numbers…Matt Ryan threw 29 TD’s i belive with 18 INT’s…shockley threw 24 TD’s with 4 INT’s and he played in a much better conference than ryan…i say give him a shot. they don’t just hand out SEC MVP for nothing.

By David Duke

March 12, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

Apparently, they do!

By TheyareONLYDogs

March 12, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

Yes

By jag count

March 12, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this

When are we going to get rid of keith brookins

By David Duke

March 12, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

The Falcons will be excommunicated from the Bad QB Club as soon as they boot Shlockley’s sorry a* out of the NFL!

By Kevin

March 12, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this

Well, why hasnt ATL try out D.J. Shockley yet?

because, he had a really good career at Georgia..he has a rocket arm AND they didnt even use him in one game last season when all the QB’s just sucked it up.

By joebrave

March 12, 2008 11:27 PM | Link to this

That would be becausw D.J. Shockley is Color Blind,You people kill me, what makes you think Shock is NFL Quality,He hasn’t done anything yet…. By the way What Bulldog Team were you watching,The Shockley I remember,Threw more interceptions than I care to ever remember,just see the Fla game when Greene went down,Shockley is STUPID….

Enough with these Street Ball QB”S,time to play real FootBall!!!!

By joebrave

March 12, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this

Shockley was a 1 year starter at Georgia,and only threw for 4 count em 4 t.d’s some career huh!!!!

By joebrave

March 12, 2008 11:41 PM | Link to this

Josh Johnson???Dennis Dixon???D.J.Shockley???? What do these Q.B’s have in common??????? All black,and all destined to fail in the NFL just like Daunte Culpepper,an others before them!!!!

By joebrave

March 12, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this

Same goes for Randall Cunningham,Donovan Mcnabb,etal,Them Boys jus can’t win the Big Games!!!! Not enough Brain in the Cranium…..

By Boxcarar

March 13, 2008 12:13 AM | Link to this

Let any QB with an arm, legs, and a head compete for a roster spot and pick the best three. Draft O-line and D-line early. How is next year’s class of QB’s looking?

By dawglover

March 13, 2008 12:25 AM | Link to this

MV was never a good QB….getting player of the week or being thought of for MVP had nothing to do with his QB skills. He has got to be the dumbest QB i have ever seen, talented athlete but not a QB…any award was for his running cause he’s too selfish and stupid to learn how to play the position. Shockley will recover from his injury and still be able to move…maybe not as well but he will be able to move better than most QB’s in the league. But if anybody saying bad things about shockley knew anything about him would know that he can throw from the pocket and is a very accurate passer with a very strong arm. He wasn’t just a backup at UGA he waited 3 years behind David Greene who was breaking Peyton Manning’s records. Shockley played all of his senior year and took UGA to the SEC championship and won it. Also finished 3rd in AP Player of the Year voting behind Reggie Bush and Vince Young after the 2005 season. We’ve tried the other two guys…and i really like Redman, but i think given the shot Shockley will prove he is capable of running an offense. O and i do believe the falcons took some guy named Brett Favre in the like 1990 draft named Brett Favre with something like the 226th pick. Shockley was taken 223rd overall. I mean c’mon where you are taken in the draft doesn’t matter or that you just had 1 full year starting in college. The guy is an athlete and hard worker he was under Mark Richt so he’s gonna work hard to do his best.

By dawglover

March 13, 2008 12:34 AM | Link to this

and i wasn’t serious about favre being taken that late that was an example…but he was taken 33rd overall after i got curious and looked it up. And joebrave, Shockley threw for 34 touchdowns in his career at UGA 24 in his year as a starter…get your stats right. O and only 9 interceptions with a 55% completion percentage.

By dawglover

March 13, 2008 12:40 AM | Link to this

and i meant 9 interceptions in his whole college career!!!!! The completion percentage is also a career number at UGA.

By ajcsportstalkispoopdoggyfightburntforeskin

March 13, 2008 5:08 AM | Link to this

ajcsportstalk is the worst quarterback in nfl!

By joebrave

March 13, 2008 5:26 AM | Link to this

dawglover you are crazier han hell

By joebrave

March 13, 2008 5:50 AM | Link to this

Apologies Dawglover,you are correct iIn 2005, Shockley played in 12 of Georgia’s 13 games, completing 173 of 310 (55.8%) passes for 2,588 yards and 24 touchdowns with 5 interceptions. He also gained 322 yards rushing in 78 attempts with 4 touchdowns.

n his 2005 stats,here they are;However Eric Zeier is the ALL_TIME leader at Ga,in passing Stats. go look it up sir!!!

By KrisG

March 13, 2008 6:58 AM | Link to this

Not to disparage female football fans, but has anyone noticed that all Harrington supporters are women?

I’m not being sexist. I say the same thing to dudes that claim Jessica Alba can act.

By Claude

March 13, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

Vick went to the playoffs once. there were a whole lot of other players on the field with him when it happened. a lot of players on a fairly well structured team in place from the work of Dan Reeves. Vick helped, but was not the sole reason we went to the playoffs and won one game, it was the whole team including Vick. not just Vick. and Vick was only a Kordell Stewart with better speed. Vick is a great athlete, but so are all the guys in the Olympic Decathalon, but that won’t make them good NFL QB’s. and Shockley, carry your but to the Arena League or CFL and just get it over with.

By The True #7

March 13, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Claude, MV went to the playoffs twice, beat GB in GB the 1st time, and lost to Philly in Philly the 2nd… Yes it was a team effort, but I remember that GB game, and I have to admit, he carried the team that game… But get off Shockley, because you and no one else knows what he is capable of in the NFL… Even though I do remember the preseason game in which he got injured… He was having a magnificent game…

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By The True #7

March 13, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

And joebrave, Do you have any idea what you’re talking about? Dawglover told you that Shockley, being the TEAM player he is, sat for three years in college, so that David Greene could pass Peyton Manning’s Most winningest ncaa qb ever record, so where did this “Eric Zeier” comment come from?… Once Shockley got his chance STARTING, he won the SEC championship, which is no small feat, and was MVP of said game… Not to mention, if he wasn’t injured for the UF game, we might have made the NC game… He was drafted so low, which I consider a steal, due to the fact he didn’t have enough playing experience… He deserves his chance… Yet, obviously, people like you believe that Joey or Chris should be given the reigns automatically, so we can have another 4-12 season? BRILLIANT!

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By The True #7

March 13, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

I’ve said it once before, and I will say it again… Build up the oline and defense, give DJ a shot, and I believe we will look alot like our NEW COACH’s former team, the Jags… Mobile qb, decent recievers, 2 good RBs, and a stout defense… They didn’t do too bad last year, did they?

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By travis

March 13, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Some article…no the Falcons don’t have the “worst” qb’s in the league. The qb’s on the Falcons roster were not drafted high by the Falcons, so we don’t have a lot invested in these guys. What the Falcons need is a hell of an offensive line to protect whatever qb that we have back there. Clev. is the blueprint for this. They drafted a left guard and have a good running back in Jamal and look what it did for Derek Anderson. We didn’t even know who this guy was a year ago.

Don’t draft a qb with the #3 pick. Derek Anderson, Tom Brady, Tony Romo, David Gerrard are all proof that you don’t need to draft a qb that high, but the O-line will dictate how well any qb will perform.

By Sam

March 13, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

The Johnson stuff is funny, must have a Tampa Bay fan on here.

A quarter back needs to be more than physical. He needs to have an arm and know how to play on a mature level.

If you look at the combine numbers for QBs Brohm is a top performer for the three agility test. No speed records for running but we do not want him to be running anyway. He has an incredible arm, size, swagger in the pocket. Brohm would be the guy to take a gamble on if we trade Hall for a first rounder.

Time for ATL to a more traditional QB for a while.

By Orlando

March 13, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

What strikes me is how so many people rag on the turner deal wishing the Falcons would wait for McFadden. First of all, tyoung who can guarantee that he would even be available at 3? As for Calvin Johnson, I don’t remember him lighting up the league last year.

Anyway, I wish these UGA lovers would stop filling up this blog about their wet dream of seeing Shockley start. It’s not happening, the team is drafting another QB in the second round; he may be on the scout team while the team waits for him to fully recover. He’ll get his chance in 2009.

I look for Atlanta to follow the Cleveland model and draft a lineman. However it won’t be on the O-line since Jake Long is predicted to go to St. Louis at 2. At least with Glenn Dorsey Atlanta can have the kind of defense that will shut down the run.

As for offense they will draft either Henne or Woodson in rd 2 and let either one develop slowly while Redman starts the season.

By Sam Maister

March 13, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

The Falcons should trade the #3 pick along with the later of their two second round draft picks to Dallas for both of they’re first round picks this year and they’re first round pick next year. Dallas will post likely do this deal because they can then move up to take Darren McFadden ahead of Oakland, which is where McFadden would probably end up if the draft order stays the same. With these two picks the Falcons can take their future QB Brohm and CB D. Rogers-Cromartie to play along side with Chris Houston. After doing this deal, D. Hall is expendable and he wants out. The Falcons should trade him to either Kansas City or New England for their first round pick. With this pick the Falcons can take an OT, hoping it would be Jake Long out of Michigan, but realistically he would already be taken, probably by St. Louis at the #2 spot. So the Falcons can take either RYAN CLADY or Jeff Otah. OR if the Falocns are lucky they can take DT Sedrick Ellis with that pick or vernon gholston.

By guy

March 13, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

I don’t think we have the worst Qb’s in the league but they certaintly arent near the top by far. I think we need to stick to what we are doing and that is build the lines and then concentrate on a qb I think we could get a solid qb in the 2nd and 3rd round. With the 3rd pic we need to select either Jake long or Glen Dorsey.

By Eddie

March 13, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

Stupid question. No QB can be better than his surrounding team. I guarantee you Redman is a fine QB and we’ve got a couple of good backups. Just get a team around them and we will get above .500 this year.

By SB

March 13, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

JOEBRAVE their is no need to compair Johnson, Dixon, and DJ. Theirs nothing a like about them. Johnson is head and shoulders above DJ and Dixon has more tallent. 43 td’s 1 int…….It dosn’t matter who you played those are numbers almost impossible to get. Dixon wins the H and plays for a national championship with out the injury. I like DJ but he didn’t do anything close to what these guys did in school. McNabb and Vick won football games, don”t make this A race thing plenty of white pocket passers are worse…Tim Couch, David Carr, both #1 over all need I go on. Only one team can win each year so don”t think all good QB’s win Super Bowls and everyone that dosn’t sucks. McNabb is a top 5 QB like it or not.

By mars

March 13, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

A little obnoxious today, are we, joe brave? As well as mistaken? You didn’t see Shockley throw any interceptions at the Fla. game. He was the guy on the sidelines in a suit, nursing an injury. I’m afraid that means that you, indeed, are the stupid one. The record supports this supposition.

By mars

March 13, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Yes! I’ll take Brian Brohm and a case of Petrino Light! That way I can become stupid drunk!

By mars

March 13, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

C’mon guys! Aren’t you all sick of Petrino’s crap? Briaqn Brohm is Petrino’s crap!

By mars

March 13, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Petrino’s crap!! Fell right out of Petrino’s @$$, he did!!! Why do you guys want more of Petrino’s crap???

By mars

March 13, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

And no trading the third pick! Get a stud to anchor o or d line, get a first rounder by trading Desiree’ Hall to address the other line with a stud. Anyone notice how the Falcons always takes the top CB’s? Anyone notice how the CB’s drafted after the Falcons pass them by seem to have so much success?

By joebrave

March 13, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

My point is no more Street Ball, anyway you spin it!!! there will be no more street ballers here!!!

By The True #7

March 13, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry… did someone compare what Dennis Dixon did in the PAC 10 to what DJ did in the SEC? I needed a good laugh today…

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By mars

March 13, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

Mark Richt can testify to the maturity, temperament, discipline, and personal constraint, as well as the outstanding athleticism of DJ Shockley. Mark Richt DOES NOT produce streetballers. That is Frank Beamers job.

By Warren Sayles

March 13, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

By far the Dolphins. McCown and Beck suck. So they are WAY worse off than Atlanta. 1-15 proves it.

By SB

March 13, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

I love SEC football but I’m sorry TRUE #7…. Outside of LSU no team in the SEC would have beaten USC, D.Dixon and Oregon did.

By The True #7

March 13, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

SB, Maybe you forgot who was qb for USC that game… If that’s your only argument, you definitely aren’t an SEC fan! Not to mention, DD ran the option offense a majority of the time, how many teams utilize the option in the NFL? That was too easy…

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By mars

March 13, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

SB, that is to laugh! UGA would have defeated both USC and LSU had it not been for the corrupt Bull Crap System (BCS).

By The True #7

March 13, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this

And one more thing… Dennis Dixon didn’t win that game… Check his stats… 16/25 157 yds 0 tds 76 yards rushing 1 td… Not impressed…

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By The True #7

March 13, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this

Mars, I can think of quite a few SEC teams that would have given a USC team without their starting qb a run for their money… Maybe 3 if USC had their starting qb (LSU, UGA, UF)

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By Will

March 13, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

For all you Shockley fans let me say…I can appreciate your loyalty to the home town guy…BUT…he is NOT the answer. Loyalty is great and all…but look how it worked out with Mr B and MV7!! UGHHHHH Time to cut Shockley, move on, draft for OL, DL, and then a QB. Dont count on a Super Bowl this season, maybe next though. Its time to rebuild the house that Vick destroyed!!

By The True #7

March 13, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

Will, There’s a difference between DJ and MV… Actually there’s a few… First, DJ has great character, proven by how long he waited for his chance at UGA… Second, DJ isn’t a run first QB, obvious if you have ever seen him play in person… Third, DJ is quite a bit more accurate with his throws… And lastly, DJ has a great work ethic, I mean he is a product of Richt, a quality coach… Give him a chance before you, like many, write him off… Everyone else got a chance, and we went 4-12… Could we truly do much worse?

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By mars

March 13, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

Drafting a QB, any QB, for the next two years would be a HUGE mistake, since there is NO TALENT AVAILABLE AS FAR AS FRANCHISE QB’S ARE CONCERNED!!! Please, drop this fantasy and let’s cure the disease instead of treating the symptoms!

By RICHIEsezGTrulz

March 13, 2008 7:41 PM | Link to this

JT….are you insane. flacco is a much better quarterback than josh johnson. not only that “scrabling quarterbacks are in”. who was the last scrambling quarterback to win a superbowl…tom brady and the mannings don’t scramble. you could maybe call Big Ben a scrambler when pittsburgh won but not really. the falcons need to go defensive and offensive line and pick a sound pocket passer who can actually read a defense or learn the playbook. not just improv cause he can’t read the cover two or hit a slant route

By Grady

March 13, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this

ATL doesn’t have the worst, but we are close. I still think that on a team with proven weapons, JOey could be decent. He’ll never live up to #1 pick hype but in Chicago or another defensive minded, ball control system, he could serve as a decent starter. Redman wasn’t bad last year and has some talents but really needs to be taught by a QB coach. Sorry UGA fans but Shockley isn’t that good. He has no arm and his legs are only serviceable. He’s just here as a local favorite. I think Flacco is the way to go in the draft. Great arm and good legs, needs some mechanical work, but so did Favre. Everyone who thinks that a “running” QB is the way to go and who cites Vick and YOung as the examples, let’s look at it this way:

When Vick was here, and we won for those two years seperated by the leg, it was fun and I enjoyed it but they built the team around Vick and when he went down for two to three games, like he always did, or an entire season, twice, we were done. Most running QBs are one demensional. Young has nothing but a running offense and a pretty good D that has helped him. His passing numbers are worse than Vick’s were in his second full year. Ignore all these Josh Johnson people and go with Flacco. If it were me, I’d try and trade D-Hall and the number 3 to someone for their 1st, second, and third rounders. Our team is in shambles and the only way to get it back is to rebuild it the right way.

By Grady

March 13, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

ATL doesn’t have the worst, but we are close. I still think that on a team with proven weapons, JOey could be decent. He’ll never live up to #1 pick hype but in Chicago or another defensive minded, ball control system, he could serve as a decent starter. Redman wasn’t bad last year and has some talents but really needs to be taught by a QB coach. Sorry UGA fans but Shockley isn’t that good. He has no arm and his legs are only serviceable. He’s just here as a local favorite. I think Flacco is the way to go in the draft. Great arm and good legs, needs some mechanical work, but so did Favre. Everyone who thinks that a “running” QB is the way to go and who cites Vick and YOung as the examples, let’s look at it this way:

When Vick was here, and we won for those two years seperated by the leg, it was fun and I enjoyed it but they built the team around Vick and when he went down for two to three games, like he always did, or an entire season, twice, we were done. Most running QBs are one demensional. Young has nothing but a running offense and a pretty good D that has helped him. His passing numbers are worse than Vick’s were in his second full year. Ignore all these Josh Johnson people and go with Flacco. If it were me, I’d try and trade D-Hall and the number 3 to someone for their 1st, second, and third rounders. Our team is in shambles and the only way to get it back is to rebuild it the right way.

By Grady

March 13, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

ATL doesn’t have the worst, but we are close. I still think that on a team with proven weapons, JOey could be decent. He’ll never live up to #1 pick hype but in Chicago or another defensive minded, ball control system, he could serve as a decent starter. Redman wasn’t bad last year and has some talents but really needs to be taught by a QB coach. Sorry UGA fans but Shockley isn’t that good. He has no arm and his legs are only serviceable. He’s just here as a local favorite. I think Flacco is the way to go in the draft. Great arm and good legs, needs some mechanical work, but so did Favre. Everyone who thinks that a “running” QB is the way to go and who cites Vick and YOung as the examples, let’s look at it this way:

When Vick was here, and we won for those two years seperated by the leg, it was fun and I enjoyed it but they built the team around Vick and when he went down for two to three games, like he always did, or an entire season, twice, we were done. Most running QBs are one demensional. Young has nothing but a running offense and a pretty good D that has helped him. His passing numbers are worse than Vick’s were in his second full year. Ignore all these Josh Johnson people and go with Flacco. If it were me, I’d try and trade D-Hall and the number 3 to someone for their 1st, second, and third rounders. Our team is in shambles and the only way to get it back is to rebuild it the right way.

By Showme$$$

March 13, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

I’m telling you if you are looking for a Tom Brady type that you won’t have to draft until the second round, maybe later, it’s Paul Smith of Tulsa University. Strong arm, good football sense and great leadership ability. He’s probably not on the radar but he’s a great prospect.

By csmooth

March 14, 2008 4:02 AM | Link to this

i think it comes down to race just say you are racist and be done with it,by the way d dixon is smart and one day all of you racist people will eat all of your words i promise no matter how smart a black man is white people will always say you are dumb and the sad thing about it most of yall clame to be christlike

By LILJEROMEBETTIS

March 14, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this

No plain and simple. Miami Does………

By I'll QB

March 14, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

Name me a scrambling QB who wins Super Bowls?? Let’s see… Favre? Aikman? P.Manning? E.Manning? Rothlisburger? Montana? Young? Warner? Brady? Hmmm?? Get the point??? For every one running QB you can name there are 10 who are passers. A running QB makes your team 1 dimensional. With no threat of the pass, put 8 in the box and your offense is shot. A pocket passer stretches the field and makes your offense more difficult to defend and hence more potent on the field.

By kevius bass

March 14, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

DJ Shockely is by far the best Qb on the Atlanta Falcons Rosters, he has the strongest and the most accurate arm then any of the quaterbacks on the roster, and he has play making ability when the play seem to fail. I believe the Falcons really would be stupid to draft a qb in the 1st round, cause there just not any francise changing Qb in the draft this year I advise them to wait to next year and focus on the interior lines,OT, LB, SS, G, FS,TE, DT. If these holes are not fix then just a okay quaterback will never be successful in Atlanta. So build the team solid first then find your quaterback. Meanwhile DJ may be the best solution at qb for next season. And hopefully Vick will be back to bring more excitement to the falcons’ organization. DJ SHOCKLEY NOW!! VICK NEXT YEAR!!!

By duckboy

March 14, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Build from the inside-out: a good o-line will raise the collective ability of the entire offense. QB ratings will go up, yards/carry increase, and receivers will start catching balls. Most importantly, wins will go up. A good o-line makes you far less dependent on star skill players. Draft to fill the trenches and turn these conversations - who takes the snaps - into trivial babble. It’s not sexy, but it wins games.

By SB

March 14, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

#7 I’m A USC fan, they had one of the top def in the country. He Played and played well. NO ONE FROM THE SEC WAS GOING TO BEAT USC( LSU is the only team that had A chance). Like I said before without the injury he’s playing for the national championship, and wins the Heisman. I like DJ but you can’t compair him to that.

By loanman

March 14, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

While the Falcons are unloading veteran players, why is Keith Brooking still on the roster?

I am so tired of watching Brooking chase plays five and ten yards after the runner is past the line of scrimmage.

By SB

March 14, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

No disrespect dude but…..Young was a running QB… Farve ran alot in his younger days….Aikman Scrambled as well as Roth…. None are Vick but all of them scrambled

By Falconfan70

March 14, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Honestly the falcons are not that far from being a good team. It won’t happen this year but with the right choices on draft day along with the free agents we’ve already got we will be contending in the Weak NFC south in 2009.

By I'll QB

March 14, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

SB, I agree they scrambled, but they were not running QB’s like say Vick and Vince Young, and possibly Shockley. The point is that they were not known for being running QB’s. You look at their stats and that is not what they will be going to the H.O.F. for.

By SB

March 14, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

I’ll QB, the point I’m tring to get you to see is all these guys ran while they where young. Mike, DJ, and Vince are all still young, it’s to early to say they wont develop into better pocket QB’s as Bret, Steve, and Troy did. Being able to run to buy time or get yards while you learn to be a great QB is an asset. Some one without that mobility has to take sacks, throw the ball away, or become a sitting target.

By I'll QB

March 14, 2008 6:46 PM | Link to this

I agree totally with what you are saying about these guys and their early years and that it is incredibly important being able to be mobile and move to create plays, that is absolutely necessary. I’m just saying none of these guys won anything just by being a runner, they had pocket prescence and the ability to look down field first, then run if they needed to. I’ll agree with you on Vince and Shockley, they need time to prove themselves. But everyone who is posting saying we need a running QB in the Vick mold, a qb to lead the team in rushing?? I can’t agree.

By Dmantheman

March 14, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this

What happened the last time Atlanta traded for a number 1 pick in the draft? The Falcons recieved the greatest all around football player in history, Mike Vick. I THINK THEY SHOULD DO IT THE OTHER WAY, TRADE FOR A PLAYER. Brady Quinn would the perfect fit in Atlanta’s offence. After watching the 2007 draft. I seen this look on his face that I will never forget, the look of determination. We need a young quarterback that will lead this team to a championship. TRADE FOR A YOUNG QB!!!!

By Dmantheman

March 14, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this

What happened the last time Atlanta traded for a number 1 pick in the draft? The Falcons recieved the greatest all around football player in history, Mike Vick. I THINK THEY SHOULD DO IT THE OTHER WAY, TRADE FOR A PLAYER. Brady Quinn would the perfect fit in Atlanta’s offence. After watching the 2007 draft. I seen this look on his face that I will never forget, the look of determination. We need a young quarterback that will lead this team to a championship. TRADE FOR A YOUNG QB!!!!

By IH

March 14, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this

Harrington is not that bad. His stats get him in the middle of the league and he has played on really bad offenses. Last year he ended up rated 21 -check ESPN. Thats not an all star, but better than about 10 teams. He did ok a couple of games last year, and then was benched. He won some for Miami, and after he left they won nothing. The guy,s main weekness is his agent. Sign with a team that can give some more support.

By jeff

March 15, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

I think the only other viable option is to sign or draft an offensive line that is less offensive to QB’s

By Leo

March 15, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this

I haven’t seen too many Falcons games, since I live in PA, but I saw them play the Saints on Monday. Redman looked OK, not great but functional, which is all the team need right now. I mean let’s be honest, if the Falcons win more than 5 games next year they’ll just lose out on a good pick and no more. The point is draft good linemen defensive or offensive. The rest of the team will develop around that. And for the love of God will they please resign Michael Boley?!?!?!?