By caz1158

January 17, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

I think if Tiger has stated through his rep that it (the statement) is a non-issue,then we should leave it at that. The person who is most affected by this has gone on,we should also. We as society (all races) have become way to sensitive. Off the cuff remarks not done in malace way,should be taken that way. To continue the story by irresponsible writers to sell themselves only stokes racial tensions. There is to much hate arround the world without trying to create more!!

By Najeh Davenpoop

January 17, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Considering the history of this country, making a comment about lynching a black man in a back alley is not an off the cuff comment.

Tiger Woods may not have been offended, but it certainly would not surprise me if other black people watching were offended. And they would have every right to be.

By quint

January 17, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Wait, there was a national uproar over this? Seriously. Yeah I know that Big Al had to stir the pot, but was there really that much to it? I mean, Tiger’s people called it a non-issue and said that he understood what she was saying and that she had no racially insensitive intent. Is this on the same level of Don Imus?

I think not. What he said was blatantly racist. But I hate to tell Big Al and everyone else: anyone can be lynched. I remember the white trucker after the Rodney King verdict was lynched on camera.

This is tabloid journalism at it’s worst. This is nothing like old Fuzzy said about Tiger at the Master’s. As a matter of fact, Fuzzy should have been lynched.

By the way: I hate golf.

By Mike

January 17, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

I do not understand why people keep calling Tiger black. He is just as much white as is he black. He has more Asian in his blood stream than both white and black combined. Maybe this is why he is not upset about Kelly’s comments.

By TJ

January 17, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Intelligent dialogue? Please.

They’re just trying to stir the pot and sell a few magazines.

By Tired

January 17, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

The people who this kind of hate does not directly effect are quick to say “let it go” or “its not that big of a deal” because to them its just words, but when you constantly have to deal with hate or insenativitiy this is just another punch in the face

By Gordon

January 17, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

This is ridiculous, as is most of mock indignation when someone uses a poor choice of words. People seem to believe they have a right not to be offended. It was clear Fuzzy was joking when he said what he did, as it was Tilghman. It’s as if the way people live their lives have no bearing on who they are, rather one comment they make that someone construes as racist. If you’re that easily offended, just stay home with the radio and TV off and the windows closed. This is America has become, spending endless hours “debating” such non-issues as this while real problems are ignored. If you are truly offended by this, you really need to get a life. It is an insult to compare Tilghman to people who really are racist, many of whom are black.

By jim

January 17, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

And who is surprised that a country club type magazine editor does not have any sensitivity to this issue? Who honestly thinks that he would. As a white male, I find the picture offensive. It reeks of both exloitation of an unfortunate choice of words and trying to sell their stupid magazine. Tilghman at least made her comment “off the cuff”. The magazine editor made a calculated decision that is cheap, easy, and at the end of the day, sophmoric. To quote Shakespeare, ” What a cheese ball”.

By T

January 17, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

No matter what Kelly’s intent, I was very surprised that it was not made a bigger story at that time.

Now, it’s just a magazine trying to sell copies.

I think it should have been made a bigger story (and discipline) though. Like someone said earlier, just because Tiger dismissed it… doesn’t mean what she said should not subjected to national scrutiny. If it were someone Tiger didn’t know or like, would the same “sweeping under the rug” have happened? I think not.

By Dawgcrzy

January 17, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Now Terence,come out come out wherever you are !

By Deyandra

January 17, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

Yes, people need to stop being so sensitive but, people also need to stop being so thoughtless. Our words can uplift,entertain,hurt, and offend. If she didn’t know a comment about lynching a black person would cause a problem, she needs to gain some common sense.

By Black Canseco

January 17, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

In trying to quantify Annika Sorenstam’s dominance, what if Nick Faldo had said, “Maybe they (her competitors) should gang up on Annika Sorenstam and rape her”?

There would be no dispute regarding the outrage people would feel. But somehow, because Tiger Woods keeps his mouth closed and because this golf——the same sport which listed “Caucasian males” in its by-laws regarding whose allowed to play the game until 1968——somehow maybe people should just “get over it”

and of course the noose on the cover was no big deal either. Needless to say, a rep from GolfWeek confirmed that no african-americans were in the room when the noose-on-the-cover decision was made.

By Derek B.

January 17, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

So we must all remove the verb “lynch” from the dictionary and our vocabularies? Context is everything people. Nick Faldo, her co-commentator, made the first remark. Something along the lines of for the other golfers to win they needed to gang up on him and harm him physically (obviuosly said very light-heartedly). Then Kelly chimed in, “yeah, lynch him in a back alley”. So, because she uses a verb to kill, which is commonly associated with blacks’ plight in earlier years, whereas Faldo chose a different verb to kill, she should be fired?

How ridiculous! Sorry, I am not going to agree to ruining someone’s career over verb choice. I.E. - you insert a different verb and her statement is no different than Nick’s was.

The uproar was mainly caused by that race pimp Al Sharpton; desperately in need of some national face time. I mean how is he going to continue “the game” he and Jesse Jackson have played for the last 20 years if they can’t stir the pot every so often. What “game”? The game of making nothing into something simply to extort money from corporations, etc so that they can continue to live lavish lifestyles. Seriously, what job does Jesse actually have? He lives off extortion of the sort similar to the shake down of Nascar a few years ago. Enough with this rant.

Tiger’s rep put it best. It is a non-issue. And if you claim to be offended yourself, then get over it. As a poster above stated, there are far bigger problems in this country than someone’s diction (look it up).

As for the editor of Golfweek. He is an assclown. Right up there with Al the Liar. Just stirrin’ the pot to make a little cash from selling his magazine. What a douchebag.

Lastly, Terence Moore is a racist jackass.

By Stupid Liberal

January 17, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

I’m a stupid liberal who thinks this golf person’s comment is an outrage! I believe in human rights and I believe every American should have equal rights. But yet I believe it’s Ok to kill 1,200,000 unborn babies in this country every year. God help me..

By Mark

January 17, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

First of all, I cancelled my subscription to Golfweek over the cover shot. Golfweek and it’s publication is NOT where I care to turn to for social issues and felt it was way over the line.

As for Racial “Pot Stirring”… Al Shapton, Jesse Jackson and any of the “others” who continue to use racial divide as their road to bank money is sad… sad forthem & the race that they “say” they care about.

Was Kelly Tilghman’s comments “hurtful”? NO. Was ill harm or action intended? NO. Is it a reason for AL & his merry band of $hit-stirrers to continue their worthless banter? YES.

And I am offended when I see a box of Saltine Crackers in the grocery store… Good thing they aren’t white.

By scooter11

January 17, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

As quickly as that comment came in response to something Nick Faldo said about the rest of the Tour ganging up on Tiger, it’s hard to imagine there was any forethought to the use of the word. Could’ve just as easily said ‘shooting’. Either way, a poor choice of words, but nothing meant by it. It was a light moment; not nearly as charged as The Rev. Al Sharpton spewing the ‘n’ word in some of his diatribes. Talk about no credibility.

By African American

January 17, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

You forget the person mot affected or the PERSONS most affected are African Americans who hear and deal with these flipant statements every day. A man hits a child with his car, the child dies. The man explains it was an accident, then he is forgiven by the family…This b******* still has to go to trila and could be locked up for life. It doesn’t matter if Tiger (Mr. I’m not really that black Woods) gives her a pass, she still has to answer to the government for African Americans, and if she is sentenced because of her actions…so be it.

By Roger

January 17, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

This is a JOKE and only exposes the fake sensitivity of professional victims (can I hear Al Sharpton?) and hand-wringing liberals.

The real point is that Kelly is so obivious to race that she does not see Tiger as a black and doesn’t associate lynching with racial connotations. I suspect she watched “Lonesome Dove” and other westerns that included in the storyline lynching of outlaws (almost exclusively white).

But … that doesn’t matter if you are trying to be a victim or find a victim.

Grow up people!

By big tone

January 17, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

of course tiger isnt offended he’s considered one eight vietnamese and hes married to a white woman, so,how can someone(not 100 percent black)be offended by a racial comment!

By no comparison

January 17, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

There is a big difference in someone trying to say something funny on the spur of the moment, and a calculated move to stir up race. Granted Kelly’s words were certainly inappropriate, but please tell me that you have never said something that you didn’t mean the way it sounded. Sometimes the mouth moves faster than the brain. She apoligized, and I think she meant it. Tigers people said that she was a friend and didn’t mean it the way it came out. Even so, she was punished, rightfully so, but I can forgive her better than Golfweek.

By Lucas Hoage

January 17, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

You people are always getting your pots of water boiled so quickly. Slavery was what? a 300 year old pasttime? Maybe longer, who knows. Consider this, during the holy crusades, anyone that did NOT believe in the Christian god “jesus” was declared a witch, hanged, or hanged and burned…alive…There were a lot more non christian individuals then blacks in slavery. Don’t believe me, go read the history. The christians killed many of innocent people with a noose. If anyone has a right to be offended by the noose, it would be either ALL non christians or all witches and/or other pagan cultures/religions. Get your f*** heads out of your f*** asses. The only reason there is scrutiny over situations like this, is because those people cannot live without controversy or attention in their lives. Grow the f*** up, its the 20th century, not 1960.

By Trip

January 17, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this

Words or sayings that white people shouldn’t use when talking to or about African Americans….

Life will be so much easier if you just don’t use them. Especially when you are on T.V.

By Vince

January 17, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

Please read Paul Finebaum`s column the Mobile Press Register. Go to Finebaum.com

By Trip

January 17, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

Prime example! Look at Lucas Hoage’s first 2 words in his blog. Yeah Slavery was your ancestors past time for 300 years. Yes the picnic events of lynching was the desert after the slavery time. Lynching was in full effect in the 60’s. But for some strange reason the nooses are still hanging. Mr. Hoage did you ever have a witch in your family that was hung? Trust me there were plenty of my ancestors hanging from trees. I don’t think you have to worry about that thought. Oh yeah and they were christians too. Peace!!

By TP

January 17, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

I just saw the segment on ESPN… What people don’t see in the You Tube segments is her reaction to someone off the set trying to alarm her. You can see her face is suddenly horrified when she realizes what she has done. Did she say the wrong thing? YES no question about it. But if you think about it she is so comfortable in the way she feels about Tiger Woods, that the racial issue wasn’t even entering her mind. She would have said the same thing about any other good golfer. If she was a racist, she would never have brought it up. She is under pressure to entertain and she was trying to be funny. Was it the wrong thing to say… Unfortunately, YES… but it was not done maliciously. If you can find a segment that shows her reaction afterward, it will change your mind.

By AfroDawg

January 17, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this

Why would Tiger be upset, he’s not black. Out of his own mouth he admitted to being Cablinasian.

By Brandon

January 17, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

its terrible, and whom ever made that decision to authorize that cover should be held accountable. but these days, anybody would do anything and say anything for a story. CRAZY!

By TP

January 17, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this

To answer the question about whether a noose on the cover has gone to0 far? YES .. that was like adding salt to a wound..they had plenty of time to retract… Kelly didn’t… it was not maliciously said and anyone with any sensitivity could see that.. but unfortunately the word lynching has such terrible connotations.. but if you look it up in the dictionary, there is no racial bias to it..Here it is: Lynch - to put to death (as by hanging) by mob action without legal sanction

By Brandon

January 17, 2008 7:20 PM | Link to this

I not so made at Kelly, she just pick a poor choose of words and that happens to good people who is not racist. However; as a young black man, it hurts me to see a noose on the cover of a magazine for a sport which is dominated by a half black man, and everybody with a mirco size common sense can tell what the noose represents, no matter what words you put on the magazine behind to cover it up. That what I am upset about.

Also, why do we as black people alway call on Al Sharpton we something that is race questionable happens. What is he, black congress?

By Ross Williams

January 17, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this

I think it is incredable or incredably stupid that Golfweek editor Dave Seanor thinks that the cover “would draw attention to an issue we thought deserved some intelligent dialogue.” And, what exactly would he mean by intelligent dialogue. How can anyone in their right mind question whether Tilghman’s statement was insensitive. Would anyone have questioned it if she had been talking about a Jew and said take him in a back alley and gas him. Maybe at Golfweek they might think that would have been in good fun too.

By NRBQ

January 17, 2008 7:25 PM | Link to this

First, let me say Kelly is snooze-inducing failure in the broadcast booth. But that has nothing to do with this blow-up.

She’s a former professional golfer who has been around Tiger plenty, and you can be sure she doesn’t think of him as “Black,” and neither do any of his competitors.

She’s a young woman who came up after lynchings were prevalent, and wouldn’t think that the word “lynch” connotes racial hatred.

She used the wrong word in a perfectly innocent manner but in exactly the wrong instance, much like you might use the wrong phrase at a funeral and humiliate yourself. But please don’t crucify her under the guidance of a money-grubbing lowlife, professional instigator like Sharpton.

By Trip

January 17, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

TP why are you trying to downplay the word lynch? It may not say in the dictionary that this was the past time for racist white people to use when killing black people. Don’t patronize the issue! To those who are saying that Tiger is responding that he is not black….well just ask anglo-saxons and his so called friends. Why didn’t she say take him in the alley and shove a rice patty down his throat! Oh I forgot…. the black part of him came out in her mind and there for he should be lnyched! Look in the dictionary?! Wake up Bro! Don’t Taze Me!

By quint

January 17, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this

Trip, you are trippin’.

Non-whites use the N-word much more often than whites. I understand how it is offensive. But please don’t single out white folks as being unable to use that word until you condemn everyone, including celebrities and other entertainers, for using it. I understand that camaraderie in the hood is only for those in the hood, so don’t try to school me on that. Would you use that tired argument with Dr. King or Malcolm? My students say that if you end the word with the “uh” or “ah” sound it is okay, just don’t end the word with “er.” I don’t buy that bull. Guess what “going” and “goin’” are accepted as meaning the same thing, too.

Lynching: It might have been used in most recent history in regard to African Americans, but you don’t own the rights to whom or what it can be applied to. (And by the way, Tiger is multi-racial. What percentage of his heritage has to be African before he can be considered African American? 10%, 35%, 51% or more?)

Boy is a young man. What am I to call African Americans of the male gender who have yet to achieve manhood? Again, I know the connotative and the denotative meaning of the word. Don’t try to say every usage of it is unacceptable.

Sorry if you don’t like “you people.” I don’t see how that is offensive. You may freely use that word with me and I will assume that you are addressing me and people that you think act like me or hold the same opinions as me. If you are wrong I will correct you.

While we are at it, let’s go ahead and stop calling people “redneck,” too. It was a term used by white people to describe other whites as undesirables. Just because my family were poor sharecroppers who picked cotton by hand and were considered very poor, they were not “po’ white trash.”

Rodney said it best, “Can’t we all get along?”

By Deacon Carl

January 17, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this

This is in reference to Mike, who stated Tiger was more Asian than Black. Man you trippin! If his father were alive & heard you say that, he would be upset. I am Black male, my son is married to a white female,my grandaughter is is light skinned with long brown hair. Believe me when people see her she is Black. Just one ounce of black blood makes you black.

By TP

January 17, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this

i don’t mean to downplay the word..I know way too many people have suffered from this heinous crime.. I guess I see a lot of myself in Kelly.. I see someone sticking her foot in her mouth before she really thought about it. She deserves the suspension.. She has to learn from this just like I had to learn from some stupid mistakes that I’ve said in my past. I only brought up the definition because it surprises me how words can morph into something much more powerful than their original meaning. My point is that Kelly is not an evil person.. she is a little green in her new job and she will learn…I’m sure it will never happen again.

By Trip

January 17, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this

Quint… I don’t use the N-Word. And the phrase “you people” is offensive to me because when it is said to me, I know exactly where it is coming from and going to. Don’t patronize me Dude! Was Dude offensive….I apologize if it was. Tiger said he was this percentage this and that. Not me. And I would figure that his black percentage background heritage was lynched. It’s only facts my man. See I called you a man I hope you’re are not offended. I respect what you wrote as an American. Now let’s hope Kelly….Tiger….Golfweek… You and I can all get along. Peace!!!

By Mike

January 17, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this

Went back and read it again, not sure if it came through. (http://speedingbulletnetwork.blogspot.com/)

By quint

January 17, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this

Hey Trip. I meant no offense in anything I wrote either. I teach school and “teach” and “preach” are very close to being the same thing sometimes. This week, I have been teaching lessons on these very issues in regard to the civil war, Southern slavery, modern slavery in Ivory Coast and southern Asia, the R-word, and many other related topics. I was offended at having to fill out a form and list my race, too. No lie these were the choices. 1. American Indian/Alaskan Native, 2. Hispanic/Latino 3. Black/African American 4. Asian 5. Hawaiian/Pacific Islander 6. White

I wrote on the paper that white is neither a race nor ethnicity. Still waitin’ for the principal to frown at me. And since I am 1/16th Cherokee, 1/32 African descent, and the rest Irish/Scottish/English, I bubbled #s 1,3,and 6. Probably shouldn’t, but white just ain’t enough.

I understand your concerns, even if I think the magazine and some of the public are making to much of the issue.

And like you say, “Peace!”

By Trip

January 17, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this

None taken Quint. It is very important that as a teacher you have almost the first defense on how a student will become as an adult. I think you are on the right track. No matter whom you are. I respect your opinion totally. We will get along or we will all fail. The Sports world will find out soon enough if they continue to fiddle-faddle with this issue. Kelly is green….but she should be seasoned for the rest of her life and career.

By quint

January 17, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this

Amen to that, Trip.

By Gene

January 17, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this

The initial comment was stupid and insensitive but probably wasn’t intended to mean “lynching” in the racial context. Putting a noose on the cover of the magazine is ridiculous and inflamatory.

By TP

January 17, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this

Now see…we all got a little heated but we dissolved it quickly.. too bad the rest of the world can’t learn from this thread.. I’m proud of you guys!

By Tom Davis

January 17, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this

I wish they put Anna Kournakova on the cover. I think she is HOT.

By Bob Skilnik

January 18, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

Next thing you know, the PC Police will ban the phrase, “We’re hanging out by the water cooler.”

How long before rope is banned?

By Sandman

January 18, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

I praise Golfweek for bringing this subject up again and out into the open. Someone said something or do something that the whole world see as racist, the media, do not cover it like they do other stories of less important. I am glad, and delighted to see that the internet has kept this story for just going away like some many other. This racist type of behavior is so much a part of America, but that our society refused to admit it. The picture on the cover is the image most blacks saw when they heard that statement, and that is just the reality. The golf channel would like for it to just go away, and never have to really deal with this type of behavior, that they know exist on that channel.

By femdem262

January 18, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Wake up golfers! The Civil War is over and George Bush is packing for the second generation Bush speaking tour of Saudi Arabia. Golf as a “sport” may be a joke but the female commentator’s very public remarks were not. Neither was Golfweek’s sad but telling magazine cover. The whole thing just proves to people how out of touch golfers are - especially those in private clubs that refuse entry to African Americans and other non-WASP types. Shame on you!

By Dick Blauvelt

January 18, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this

There can be no justification for the cover. None. Words were spoken without thinking. We have all done it. The issue was fading as it should. The editor at Golfweek must have lost conciousness for a time when that cover was proposed. In fact he should fire his staff for allowing him to go forward with such a beyond outrageous cover. Who could ever take them seriously again.

By bob

January 21, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this

No the cover wasnt a big deal, its just whites feeling guilty once again over something they had nothing to do with. Drop it, the man who was commented about already has