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Glavine returns!
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Tom Glavine has agreed to a one-year, $8 million deal to rejoin the Braves. What do you think? What will this mean to the Braves’ rotation? Is Glavine now forgiven for leaving the Braves after the 2002 season? At his age, will he still be effective? And finally, do you think $8 million is a good enough hometown discount?
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By Arcadio
November 19, 2007 12:53 AM | Link to this
Welcome home, Glavine!
By TBraveFan
November 19, 2007 12:57 AM | Link to this
Thank you Tommy for the best birthday present I’ve had in 5 years!!!
Welcome home … I can’t wait to see you in Spring Training!!!
By br
November 19, 2007 12:58 AM | Link to this
If this is the only pitcher the Braves obtain this winter they will regret it. Yes, he’s done very well for the Braves before, but he is now 41, about to be 42, years old! Did you see him in the second half of this past season? He got clobbered and it was sad to see. I think he is, at best, a 5th starter. If they can obtain another starter, then I’ll be happy, but if Glavine is it, then it will be another long summer!
By Ben
November 19, 2007 12:58 AM | Link to this
I dont know if I like this or not. I mean, i know its sentimental and all but if we’re expecting Tommy to be the Tommy he was before he betrayed atlanta fans everywhere, i think Mr. wren is mistaken. But if we look on the bright side, we need a #3 starter, and thats what he is at this point in his career, sad to say, but the truth hurts sometimes. But I dont know if we need to paying 8 million for a 10-12 win season from a #3 starter.
By Rob
November 19, 2007 12:59 AM | Link to this
Welcome back, Tommy! Now let’s go get us a brand new set of rings!
By ArkyTech
November 19, 2007 12:59 AM | Link to this
OK, I’m willing to say he’s paid his debt by spending 5 years in NY. Welcome back, Tommy. Now, let’s go win a W.S. in ‘08!
By schoolingthem
November 19, 2007 1:07 AM | Link to this
I could think of 8 millions reason the braves should have not sign Glavine, for one, look at the picture, he’s old.
By BabyGoatEater
November 19, 2007 1:08 AM | Link to this
I think a rotation with Smoltz(17), Hudson(15), Glavine(13), Hampton(10+), and James(14) is good for around 70 wins. If the bullpen can win 30 games (which they did last year) that’s 100 wins. I believe that the Chipper/Teixera combo this years will win 10 games alone. I see a 105-110 win season in the mix and Wren says he’s not done yet. GOOD JOB JOH…..UM….I MEAN FRANK. Seamless transition may not do it justice.
By Daybed Wagmoe
November 19, 2007 1:17 AM | Link to this
What will this mean to the Braves’ rotation? Is Glavine now forgiven for leaving the Braves after the 2002 season? At his age, will he still be effective? And finally, do you think $8 million is a good enough hometown discount?
having glavine as our third starter gives this rotation a ton of much needed stability. he definitely has the potential to still be effective despite his age — he had a very good year last year, despite his low win total (it should’ve been higher but he had several games that his team blew for him), inflated era and bad final stretch. when you think that he could’ve made $13 million by staying with the mets, yes, $8 million is a great hometown discount.
By David
November 19, 2007 1:18 AM | Link to this
I think it’s liberal to expect anything from Mike Hampton. He should be paying the Braves to play for them this year! I think that the front three is definitely strong. The back end is still suspect at this point. Chuck James is your number four and the others fight it out for number five. I think with James being around Glavine, it will help him immensely.
By wm
November 19, 2007 1:21 AM | Link to this
8 million? Is this his penance? Prodigal Son returns! Will this win a pennant?
Can we get Maddux too? Ooh, and Rocker too!
By braint
November 19, 2007 3:10 AM | Link to this
13 wins and 200 IP will save our bullpen, relieve pressure from Smoltz and Huddy, mentor James, and add leadership to the clubhouse….it also means that if Hampton is healthy — The NL East will come back to ATL.
By keef1234
November 19, 2007 3:52 AM | Link to this
sign Phil Niekro!!!
By Mike
November 19, 2007 3:57 AM | Link to this
Im in tears right now, I was so upset december 4th 2002 when Glavine left us to join those damn mets. But now he’s back, and as happy as I am as a die hard brave fan for life I can forgive but I will never forget. Glavine deffinetly has fixed his legacy by coming back to the braves. I love the rotation, everyone needs to give Chuck James a chance! He’s so young and he’s a lefty! Now with Glavine teaching him theirs no telling how far he can go. God bless Glavine, Hey Frank Wren! Way to go man! I love the future of this organization that I love so dearly
By Mike
November 19, 2007 3:57 AM | Link to this
Im in tears right now, I was so upset december 4th 2002 when Glavine left us to join those damn mets. But now he’s back, and as happy as I am as a die hard brave fan for life I can forgive but I will never forget. Glavine deffinetly has fixed his legacy by coming back to the braves. I love the rotation, everyone needs to give Chuck James a chance! He’s so young and he’s a lefty! Now with Glavine teaching him theirs no telling how far he can go. God bless Glavine, Hey Frank Wren! Way to go man! I love the future of this organization that I love so dearly
By Michael
November 19, 2007 4:30 AM | Link to this
This is a great move!! Love it, love it, love it!!! Tom is a bulldog who will give us lots of innings, never gives up or gives in, and will help train the younger guys. Plus, the Mets lose one of the best pitchers as well. I really believe that this year will be the one we get back on top. can’t wait for spring.
By Train Wreck Bystander
November 19, 2007 4:46 AM | Link to this
Welcome to Team Nostalgia.
Personally, I think we could have spent the money more wisely.
I hope Tom Terrific proves me wrong next fall.
By Jeff R
November 19, 2007 5:29 AM | Link to this
Hard to say at his age. Glavine was always a control pitcher with midrange velocity. If he’s lost anything more off his speed, it wouldn’t be anything he could compensate for. But now that he’s back in the fold, I hope he can deliver 200 innings and 15 wins.
By BLA
November 19, 2007 5:33 AM | Link to this
Greg Maddox would’ve been a better choice if the Braves wanted to bring back their ACE. 8 million was too much! They should’ve given Greg the money when he was here and the Braves haven’t been the same since.
By gobirds42
November 19, 2007 6:12 AM | Link to this
great choice….whoever says 8 mil is too much is not based in reality….GREAT. lets do it!
By jw
November 19, 2007 6:14 AM | Link to this
Great move, Atlanta. Re-signed the old union boy. Now somebody go dig up Satchel Paige and re-sign him too, and we’ll be all set.
By gobirds42
November 19, 2007 6:22 AM | Link to this
and maybe tom can get thru to that chuck james guy!! but i’m thinking he will be traded in the next 2 weeks….just a guess
By STEVEFROMCHARLESTON
November 19, 2007 6:28 AM | Link to this
this is great news, I’m a lifelong Braves fan now living in the Holy City, Charleston, S.C., my wife will flip out over this news she LOVES Glavine, playoffs here we come
By ronp
November 19, 2007 6:46 AM | Link to this
The price is right…he turned down $13 mllion with Mets for $8 Million with Braves..now, that’s what I call a hometown discount…at least he learned something while he was in New York…
Andruw where are you?
By Tres
November 19, 2007 6:46 AM | Link to this
welcome home Tommy!
By Nate Raymond
November 19, 2007 6:47 AM | Link to this
I am happy but Glavine is still glavine. I still think he can provide for some wins. Hey hope the mets get livan hernandez. The braves kill him he can’t with against them.
By Dewayne
November 19, 2007 6:49 AM | Link to this
I’m a Mets fan in Atlanta, I’ll be rooting for Glavine everytime he takes the mound, glad to see him back where he belonged all along.
By Grits
November 19, 2007 6:52 AM | Link to this
Good move! Now, let’s find a closer.
By Erin
November 19, 2007 6:53 AM | Link to this
FINALLY!! Welcome home, Glavine! You’re back right where you belong.
By John Tucker
November 19, 2007 6:57 AM | Link to this
OK, so ;omg as he and Chuck James aren’t back to back in the rotation. Then, the second one gets killed, because the opponent saw his twinh the day before.
By Fitz
November 19, 2007 7:08 AM | Link to this
$8 Mil for a 41 year old pitcher. The Braves are getting as bad as the Yankees.
By Allen
November 19, 2007 7:08 AM | Link to this
I hope he retires soon so I can start following the Braves again. Maybe I’ll become a Mets fan.
By Grace
November 19, 2007 7:11 AM | Link to this
Welcome home, TG!
By WarParty
November 19, 2007 7:12 AM | Link to this
Don’t discount the extra coach factor or the positive feelings that will lift the team coming from the likes of Smoltzie and Bobby Cox. These are intangibles that create stronger team chemistry, not to mention having another proven arm in the rotation.
Add it all up and Glavine’s return to the Braves has already started to pay dividends. Excellent news and an even better acquisition! I like it.
By Elmer
November 19, 2007 7:15 AM | Link to this
What a mistake- Glav, whose day is over, will keep us in third place.
By GREG
November 19, 2007 7:22 AM | Link to this
He just wanted to play golf with Smoltz again, that is the only reason he agreed to a measly 8 million.
By RJB
November 19, 2007 7:24 AM | Link to this
Congrats to the Braves for making a great decision. Tommy is first class and gives the Braves a better chance of winning relative to what we saw last year. Too bad to those that are still hung up on Tommy’s decision to leave but he never wanted to but our friends at Time Warner amongst others decided that journey men pitchers whould be the way to treat season tickets holders to some delightful evenings. For those of you that resent Tommy, do your homework or better stay home.
By R1U
November 19, 2007 7:24 AM | Link to this
Let’s see…Kyle Davies…Mark Redmon…what did they do for us last year???
TG had even more ridiculuous luck i.e blown games than Huddy…he should have had 17 wins at least…The Mets had no pitching and it showed. They leaned on TG exclusively and their relief corps s*ed. He will fit in nicely with the group we have now and prepare the next wave of arms…Good Job frank…welcome back TG
By RJB
November 19, 2007 7:25 AM | Link to this
Congrats to the Braves for making a great decision. Tommy is first class and gives the Braves a better chance of winning relative to what we saw last year. Too bad to those that are still hung up on Tommy’s decision to leave but he never wanted to but our friends at Time Warner amongst others decided that journey men pitchers whould be the way to treat season tickets holders to some delightful evenings. For those of you that resent Tommy, do your homework or better stay home.
By RJB
November 19, 2007 7:25 AM | Link to this
Congrats to the Braves for making a great decision. Tommy is first class and gives the Braves a better chance of winning relative to what we saw last year. Too bad to those that are still hung up on Tommy’s decision to leave but he never wanted to but our friends at Time Warner amongst others decided that journey men pitchers whould be the way to treat season tickets holders to some delightful evenings. For those of you that resent Tommy, do your homework or better stay home.
By bevsouth
November 19, 2007 7:32 AM | Link to this
Some of you people kill me. We pick up a veteran pitcher who threw 200 innings,won 13 games ( albeit with a 4.45 ERA) on a one year contract for less money then Schilling,(same age) Randy Johnson(older)Maddux etc. Execept for that bad strectch at the end he was very consisitent last year, and will be again this year. Plus we did not have toi give up any prospects. Great Deal!
By rich brave
November 19, 2007 7:35 AM | Link to this
O.K. we’ve got the potatoes, let’s get Johan Santana and get the meat, and win another division.
By Marty
November 19, 2007 7:38 AM | Link to this
Some of the comments in here are so idiotic it is just beyond belief. Allow me to respond to a few:
No, Glavine did NOT “get clobbered” in “the second half” of last season. If you would take the time to look before you speak, you know know that Glavine had a sub-3.00 ERA in the second half before his last three starts.
$8 million is a spectacular deal and a great discount for Glavine, even at this stage of his career. Anyone who says otherwise clearly is viewing things in a vacuum. You can’t just say, “Eight million dollars is a lot of money,” and, “Tom Glavine is old!” and use those two pseudo-facts to reach the conclusion that the Braves have overpaid for Glavine here. If you compare ths ocntract to similar ones throughout the MLB right now, it’s a great deal. Does that mean that MLB contracts are becoming somewhat ridiculous? Probably so. Does that mean that the Braves should stubbornly refuse to pay anywhere near market value for good players? Only if you want to end up in the cellar permanently.
Dewayne, thanks for the kind words. Sometimes even Mets fans can be civilized. =)
Regarding the circumstances under which Glavine left — I was mad at him at first as well, but after having three or four years to cool down, better sense has prevailed. That is, although not as much so in Glavine’s case as, say, Maddux (where by all acounts, the Braves didn’t even make an offer), the Braves definitely played a part in Glavine’s departure five years ago.
Glad to see you back, Tommy. Here’s hoping you still have enough left in the tank to help get us back to the playoffs in ‘08.
By Chief Knockahoma
November 19, 2007 7:38 AM | Link to this
$8M for a 41 yr. old who was very pedistrian-like in New York? Sorry, I’m not buying the big sentimental return.
By TampaGator
November 19, 2007 7:38 AM | Link to this
This is obviously a “Thank you, Tommy” sign so he can ride his horse into the sun in Atlanta. I hope it goes well for him, but I think his best years are way behind him (he was bad at the end of this past season). I think his ERA this year might be over 5.00. Maybe 6-12 type of a year. This will not help the Braves. But it is good to have him back. I hope I am wrong. Let’s hope Hampton comes back strong. But I have my doubts there as well. I think the Braves may have been better off with Reyes, Bennett, and the kid from Detroit. I guess they will get one more year in AAA. Does Chuck James have a role now?
By BravesMan
November 19, 2007 7:41 AM | Link to this
A total waste of money for an aged, over the hill pitcher, who no other team wanted at anything near that kind of money. The braves never learn. Another long year is on the way.
By GUI
November 19, 2007 7:41 AM | Link to this
I’ll gladly take a solid #3 pitcher in the rotation. If we could have had something even close to a real starter in the 3 spot down the stretch last year we would have made the playoffs. I’m more worried about what we gave up at shortstop. ER was solid and a club house leader. We’ll feel the void he leaves behind.
By Paula
November 19, 2007 7:43 AM | Link to this
The Braves addressed the worst part of their team last year, the backend of the rotation, which cost them the team a playoff berth and yet all some of your can do is whine……
By Ben
November 19, 2007 7:44 AM | Link to this
All those short memories out there. Glavine’s actions during the strike drove me away from MLB for years. Now that I’m watching again am slapped in the face with the re-signing of this idiot. Way to go Braves. Let me know when he retires, maybe then I’ll start watching you again.
By Jim H.
November 19, 2007 7:49 AM | Link to this
You skeptics are certainly entitled to your opinions, and I agree with some of your points. Glavine didn’t please me when he bolted to the Mets for a few more $$$ either. But, I must respectably disagree with those that oppose this signing. I think it is a very good move, even beyond the nostalgic feel good aspects of bringing him back to finish his career in Atlanta. I’m willing to forgive and forget.
Sure it would be great to be able to grab one of the few “in their prime” superstar starting pitchers on the market, but the reality is that there are only a handful of big spending teams that can take on those types of salaries these days (Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Mets, etc.). The Braves are now simply “upper middle class” on the MLB payroll scale and must make efficient use of their available funds. (And, if you’ll remember those ultra-high payrolls only worked out well for one team this year – Boston. The rest of the big spenders crashed and burned……I still laugh when I think of the Mets collapse …ha, ha, ha!). The Braves have two studs at the top of the rotation. What we needed badly last year were innings eaters to produce quality starts and help save the bullpen. Glavine will give us that in one of the starters spots. No, he is not a shutdown pitcher anymore.…but he is still pretty damn good.
If Hampton come back (yes, I know that is an enormous IF….but it is certainly possible and I think even probable), and someone steps up and nails down the fifth spot, I think the rotation could be as strong as some of those monster rotations we had in the ‘90s.
I look for Chuck James to move into the long-relief role this year (if he isn’t traded) . With his tendency to fade late in games, pitching three or four inning stints once or twice a week would seem to me to be an ideal role for him. Or maybe he will hit the gym this winter (instead of installing windows) and build up his strength and endurance for starting. How about it Chucky?
By webhead
November 19, 2007 7:53 AM | Link to this
I love it! Glav was the reason we have a decent team to cheer for today.I never wanted him to go but welcome him back with open arms. Wish it was at least two years instead of 1 but this will do. YEA!!
By lin
November 19, 2007 7:56 AM | Link to this
well sad to say they not going to get pass 3rd again 2008. why i say this as other top 2 will not have good year.bullpen will not be that great again.they wont have good player in center due afraid get expensive one and depend on their young guns. young guns are nice but takes few years to get them going.look catcher bm. he wasnt as good 2nd yr as first.ye at short take him over yr to be good one even if he played there few times last yr.chipper will have his problems again.so forth.like say welcome back to tom g. and good luck as you will need it.
By JMC
November 19, 2007 7:57 AM | Link to this
I was never mad at Tom for leaving, and more than happy to see him back in an Atlanta uniform.
For years, I’ve been putting up with grief from fellow Braves fans for supporting Glavine during his away status. Now they can all get back on to the right side ….
Go Braves!
By Jim H.
November 19, 2007 7:58 AM | Link to this
You folks that are still dwelling on that ‘94 strike really need to get a grip.
By Judy
November 19, 2007 8:04 AM | Link to this
Welcome home Tommy!
By Mitch
November 19, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
I love this move. When Glavine left the Braves, it was the worst I’ve felt about any baseball transaction in my life. Tommy was Mr Brave, and then, to leave us, especially to go to the Mets, was like a punch in the gut. Yes, he’s going to be 42, and maybe he’s not the Glavine he was in, say, the mid to late 90s, but, we dont need him to be. We have our one-two punch of Hudson and Smoltz. Tommy will provide veteran leadership, and a stablizer, who can eat up 200 innings, and, I believe, win us at least 12-14 games. He also provides important insurance, im case Mike Hampton cannot come back. If Hampton does come back, and wins us say, 10 games or more, and Hudson and Smoltz pitch like Hudson and Smoltz, we can probably say that we’re going back to the playoffs in 2008. I look forward to seeing Tommy back in a Braves uniform in 2008. Good move, Frank Wren, and welcome home, Tommy. It will be wonderful to have him back pitching as a Brave, at Turner Field next year.
MitchBy jh
November 19, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
lin…..I think that have a good English 101 class starting soon down at the community college. Be there!
By Curtis
November 19, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this
Somewhere, Steve Avery is awating a phone call….
By BravesFanSince1966
November 19, 2007 8:15 AM | Link to this
Sign Andruw Jones if you want to keep a low ERA. Please Mr. Wren. offer Andruw now if you want to obtain a low ERA.
By Harry
November 19, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this
Welcome back Tom, Now lets see how we can get Bobby Cox into retirement finally. The Braves should have given him the boot after this season, and went after a manager, hmm NY Yanks former manager, would have been a good fit. Our Braves have had so much good talent to slip away because the manager sucks. But until Bobby leaves the team will be mediocre sad to say. Now lets watch Andrew Jones have a great season next year as another ball clubs addition.
By mike
November 19, 2007 8:22 AM | Link to this
Is this move supposed to get Atlanta into the World Series? Someone explain this to me?
By Big Trouble
November 19, 2007 8:24 AM | Link to this
Worst. Move. Ever.
Well, at least we will have another jerk to yell at during the collapse. This is the man I hold responsible for turning me away from baseball. From his “leadership” position during the strike, to bailing on the Braves for more money elsewhere, now he’s back???
Like I needed another reason to wash away the stink of the Braves…
By JD
November 19, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this
First of all, I’m really excited about his return and I believe our rotation is much better because of it. I don’t think it’s entirely appropriate to talk of “forgiving” Glavine. We all make decisions that we think are best for ourselves and our families. I don’t think anyone should have felt badly toward Glavine in the first place. How soon we forget the years of labor he put in to bring championship after championship to Atlanta, not to mention his stellar Game 6 performance in the ‘95 Series. Based on Glavine’s style of pitching, I don’t think his age is an issue. Besides, as fans we should trust the instincts and wisdom of our leadership. Apparently, those in administration have been doing something right over the last 15 years. We should be thankful that we picked up such a quality pitcher for such a reasonable price in today’s market. Welcome home, Tom! GO BRAVES!!!
By Tom Glavine
November 19, 2007 8:28 AM | Link to this
Suckers
By BlueMoon
November 19, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this
For anyone that is upset with Glavine about the strike…don’t be. He was fighting for minor league rights and retirement/medical benefits than for anything else.
Don’t let the media and owners fool you. It was all a sham to give the players the black eye.
The ownerw were trying to rip the rug out from under people that had already earned their pensions that never made above $1200/month and also tried to take away their medical benefits.
By Miles W. Rich
November 19, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
To Ben and all of you who claim that Glavine was disloyal, first during the strike in 1994 and then when he left for New York, let’s clear up a few facts.
The 1994 “strike” was not a strike at all, it was a lockout. The players union refused to sign the offer made by the owners, and the owners locked the doors.
Tom Glavine was the players representative then. The issues in 1994 did not affect Tom personally, and the others stars, near as much as they did the journeyman players, the rookies, and other bench warmers. Believe it or not, unions are nothing more than entities that bargain in a capitalist system. As far as the runaway salaries, blame the owners. Ben, when was the last time you told your boss, “hey, you are paying me too much.” You people are just jealous. Tom put his teammates and other major leaguers ahead of himself.
Tom is a great guy, a family man, and a member of our community. Like John Smoltz, he is an Atlanta resident (actually Johns Creek). He is involved in the community. He does a lot of charitable work. And he turned down $5,000,000.00 more to play here; so let’s not call him greedy. You people who are mad about the strike are either jealous of those who have more than you do, stupid, or just so right wing and selfish, that you begrudge anyone who also looks out for themselves. Tom Glavine won the final game of the 1995 World Series, not Ted Turner.
In 2002, the Braves didn’t want to keep Glavine. They knew he could command a huge salary in the free agent market. They also believed his best years were behind him. They were right on both counts. And they never made him a real offer. It wasn’t as if they offered $12 Million a year and the Mets offered $13 Million and he sold himself to the highest bidder. Didn’t happen. The Braves just showed very little class, because their silence left people like some who have posted that the Glavine just took the highest offer. But just for the record, how many of you would not switch jobs for four or five years if someone guaranteed you $65 Million and that was $25 Million more than anyone else was offering. You are real big mouths with someone else’s $$$$$.
To Tom, I say welcome home. I hope that you pitch for the Braves like you did last year, except for those last three starts.
By GaLiberal
November 19, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this
I can’t believe they WASTED $8M on this loser. They got rid of him because he chokes in pressure situations. Just look what he did to the Mets. You get people that can HELP WIN GAMES not choke. This is $8M that could have been used to bring in some power hitting. Instead, because they felt sorry for little Tommy Glavine losing his job with the Mets they bail him out. Like he needs to be bailed out. Was another team looking at him? I doubt it. The Braves were stupid enough to be blinded by past glories that will never be fulfilled.
By Vannmc
November 19, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this
Just wondering if anyone knows of Charlie Liebrandt’s whereabouts, maybe we can bring him back in 08’ too.
By Jess
November 19, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this
Wahoo! Wahoo! Wahoo!
Ignore the negative comments, Tom, and WELCOME BACK! We’ve missed you so…. ;-)
I’m so HAPPY now!
By ABOMINATION
November 19, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this
You know you are a team on the decline when you start bringing back over-the-hill ball players so you can relive the glory days.
By theo
November 19, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this
Bad move! Youth, Youth, Youth! I believe we seen what kind of playoff pitcher Tommy “G” was last year!
By Jim H.
November 19, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this
Some of you folks would find something to bi#ch about if the Braves went 162-0, swept every playoff series including the world series, had free admissions to all games, and paid for all your gas for a year!
It was the right move. Deal with it!
By Dejavoodoo
November 19, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this
You gotta be kiddin! That’s an awful lot of money for 10-12 wins, if that. Is Glavine gonna return to form because he’s back with the Braves? Don’t think so. Maybe the Braves can wear retro uniforms to go with this awesome move.Ugh, pass the Kool Aid.
By AL
November 19, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this
who freakin cares? The falcons suck, the braves suck, the hawks suck, GO THRASHERS!!! You people in atlanta need to figure out which team to stand behind! Rednecks can’t figure hockey out… it’s all about beer and football. Rednecks!
By Brent
November 19, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this
While Glavine is not going to do anything spectacular this year, nor is he the kind of pitcher who will dominate against tough offenses, for $8 million he is an excellent choice as a 3-4 starter. He should eat up innings, never goes on the DL, and will presumably be a great guy in the clubhouse for the young kids and the old veterans he used to play with. More than anything, this move should allow our relief to stay fresh and effective, while having the opposite affect on the Mets.
By AL
November 19, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this
braves suck! WHO CARES!
By 29 to C'town
November 19, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this
Long-time fan from Va. My son & I were in a clinic with Billy Wagner Saturday. Billy says he & Tommy are close, called Tommy a “Top 5” teammate. Said he talked to Tom Friday night & said he would not be back to NY, that he was either going back to Atl or retiring. Billy concluded by saying the he hoped the Braves were going to take care of him & that Tommy had “always been a Brave.” I say great job, Frank. 105-110 wins aren’t going to happen, but 92-95 may , get back to the playoffs & go somewhere. Undecided about the Villareal deal, still may need a CF. Welcome home, Tommy!
By Ray
November 19, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this
Terrific signing. Please for you doubters give me a better pitcher that IS AVAILABLE at 8 million. Secondly for all of those that are drumming up the strike. Do you realize it was 1994 and NOT 2004. It was 13 years ago. If you are still holding on to that then just go to another sport like volleyball. And last time I checked it was NOT JUST Glavine that went on strike. I don’t think he was the only player. Yes I know about the press conferences outside the clubhouse of the CC of the South. Give the strike thing a rest. But you doubters will be the first one to jump on the bandwagon and claim you were backing it all the way if the Braves make the playoffs this year and Glavine was a key ingredient. Mr Tom Glavine, welcome home and look forward to you putting on #47 in a Braves uniform.
By John
November 19, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this
This is a waste of 8 million dollars. I understand the sentiment and I appreciate what Glavine has done for us in the past but he’s past it and we saw that with the Mets. I think this is a very bad move.
By JK
November 19, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this
HORRIBLE WAY TO SPEND 8 MILLION BUCKS. THIS GUY IS DONE. 1 YR/2 MILL WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD DEAL.
By Harry BAlls
November 19, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this
This move stinks. TG is over the hill and he will not even have a winning season. Why do people want to discount his last 3 starts from last year? That is what you will be getting this year. He left Atlanta and and lied about the reason he left and they should have let the b******* stayed in NY.
By gdawgfan
November 19, 2007 9:02 AM | Link to this
This is a bad signing! Glavine is done! He may win 7 or 8 games this year and thats not a good deal for 8 million dollars. I would have prefered a more youthful pitcher with some power. If glavine’s location is off, teams will kill him. That 8 million dollars could have been spent on other needs like a center fielder, a better starter, signing Tex, or bolstering the bench. Glavine is a good guy, but his glory days are over.
By BASEBALLDOC
November 19, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this
i like tommy, but $8mil? maybe about $1Mil per victory. hopefully
By tracman
November 19, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this
I think this is an excellent move. $8M for a potential 12-15 win pitcher in today’s inflated salary environment is a bargain. And it is only a one year contract, which gives the future replacements another year of seasoning. Although I still have some resentment that he left town, especially for the Mets, I realize baseball is a big business and you can’t blame him for making the most money he can for himself and family. Welcome back, give the Braves your best effort and I’ll be happy.
By 82DAWG
November 19, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this
Good Deal? Why not. He isn’t what he once was, but is a sight better than anyone else that the Braves were going to have to consider.
By roan st
November 19, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this
My biggest concern with Glavine is how he will pitch if we make the playoffs next year? He pitched over 200 innings this season and it sure did show at the end as he was absolutely clobbered. If the braves try and figure a way to save the arms of the older veterans then maybe its a good move.
By TC
November 19, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this
Not a good move. The last time he pitched, he got rocked. It’s time to move on and find younger pitchers.
By Lance
November 19, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this
Glavine will put some butts in the seats, and quite a few runners on base.
It’s a terrible move in terms of trying to build a winning team. Pure sentimentalism.
I guess we have $8m to burn, so we’d better be bringing in loads of other great players this year. I doubt that.
By Scott
November 19, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this
You gotta be kidding me. $266,000 per game for a 42 year old washout. This guy is in the game for one thing, your money. Anyone who pays to see this union bum deserves what they get for it - nothing.
By ITS GETTING OLD
November 19, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this
Another REDMAN! The Braves are no better off today than last year. Can’t wait to hear all you supporters calling for his head around July. They better also sign another starting picture and a proven CF or we’re no better than 3rd. Just wait…. I told you so. Maybe, just maybe Glavine and Cox go out together this 2008.
By Lex Luthor
November 19, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this
Hey AL,
We stand behind our teams no matter how bad they do. We rednecks call it loyality.
Hey Tom,
Didn’t you go play for the enemy?
By drixie
November 19, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this
Good move. Welcome back Tom.
By GT
November 19, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this
Not a fan of this move. Glavine could have best helped the Braves by staying in a Mets uniform. Now it means the Mets will be even more compelled to land a legitimate addition to their starting rotation - someone who has a respectable ERA under 3.5, who isn’t in his early 40s, and whose repertoire consists of more than slow, slower, slowest.
While I love Smoltz, it is only a matter of time before his effectiveness wanes. Add to this a rotation of Glavine, Hampton, Hudson (who, despite a positive turn last year, has still been inconsistent), and James - I think this could be a disaster in the making. A perfect storm.
By Matt
November 19, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this
It’s great to have Glavine back! This feels like the 90s again.
By Ray
November 19, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this
Come on people. This stuff about it would be a good deal at 1 or 2 million, well of course it would. It would also be a good deal to have Chipper at 5 mil. Lets be realistic. Give me a better pitcher for 8 million. And those that you propose at 2 million, give me a pitcher that will eat (being extremely conservative) 180 innings win 10 games for you. Some people are just looking for something to grip about or wants to blog just to be semi-read.
By WFC
November 19, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this
Glavine is a #4 starter at best. Who is going to be #3? Losing Jones in center will probably cost us a run every other game so it probably doesn’t matter.
By gayle
November 19, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
It’s very nice sentimentally speaking to see Glavine back in Atlanta, but I think this move speaks more of a need of management to put fans in the stands than mounting any serious threat to Philly or New York next year.
Do you remember Tom’s performance in the must win game against Florida at the end of last season? He gave up 7 runs, didn’t record an out and hit the pitcher!
When it is way past the time to drop all of the old, expensive and dead weight (Chipper, Smoltz, Hampton, etc.) and not just Andruw, they go and add to it with Glavine.
Like someone mentioned earlier, let’s bring back Avery and why not Wohlers too? Leyritz is retired so he should be OK.
Until such time that this team accepts the reality of rebuilding, it will continue to be a bridemaid at the end of the season.
By BamaBrave
November 19, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
I don’t mind this deal. $8 million is simply the going rate for good, experienced arms. That’s just the way it is. So, IF he keeps us in games, pitches around 200 innings, and BUSTS HITTERS INSIDE EVERY NOW AND THEN, I’ll cheer for him.
But, if he stumbles…if he proves to be a mistake, I’ll boo him like he’s a combination of Michael Vick and Scott Boras. Surely, a mercenary like Glavine would understand that.
By Deborah
November 19, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this
Welcome back Tommy! Now, if we could just get Greg to come back & Javy too, I would be in heaven!!!!!!
By Jeff
November 19, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this
What? Glavine??? Wasn’t Sid Bream available?
By Mad as Hell
November 19, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this
By signing to an 8 Million dollar contract is dumb and stupid way to go new GM that shows what type of fool you will be and the years to come.
By ITS GETTING OLD
November 19, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this
Its pitcher not picture. Sorry about that.
By FormerBravesFan
November 19, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this
This is a terrible move. Worse than letting Andrew and Edgar go. Absolutely ridiculous. Horrible. We’ve got the geriatric rotation that’s only getting older!
Why not spend money on a solid young starter???! One that could help the team next year and THE FUTURE??
Prove me wrong, John.
By MV7
November 19, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this
Glavine should have never left in the first place. His stubborness and greed got the best of him. Should have gotten 300 as a Brave. I guess thats what being the head of the players union does to you.
By Goldie
November 19, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this
YES! It will be great to have Tom back for at least one year — maybe he can plug that gaping hole in the Braves’ pitching rotation. He will be worth the $$ for one year to see what he can do!
By DirkDawggler
November 19, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this
Of course it’s a good move. He will give you a quality start more often than not and can mentor some of the youth on the staff. I don’t view Glavine as a traitor. Anyone out there ever changed jobs because of a better offer? It’s called free market enterprise.
Welcome home, Tom.
By jlpoll1984
November 19, 2007 9:52 AM | Link to this
I’m in heaven…thank you Frank for giving me the best Christmas present ever…Welcome home Tommy!!!!
By Mark
November 19, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this
This was very a stupid move. Now we have three shaky left-handed starters.
James who can’t make it past the fifth inning and gives up homeruns like crazy.
Hampton who has been stealing money the past two year. He will probably get hurt again.
Now Glavine, the choke artist who choked last year when the Mets really needed him.
The sick part about all of this is that most fans are really happy about signing this guy. Maybe he will help us make the playoffs and then lose in the Division Series AGAIN. This is why the Braves will never be a great team.
Frank Wren is this why you got rid of Renteria. GO BRAVES…..I GUESS.
By Kelsey
November 19, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this
I agree Mad As Hell. Tommy does not deserve that type of money. He is washed up (that is what my husband would say), and I think that is bad decision to pay him 8 million dollars when this man is 41 years old about to be 42. It is a waste of money. This is a sad day in baseball.
By Clay
November 19, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this
This is a bad move. Glavine is not the answer for the Braves, who should be developing talent for the next 10 years, not just 2008. I don’t like Glavine’s style of pitching mostly - the nibble, nibble on the outside of the plate stuff. I am not as concerned with his age as I am his effectiveness. Everyone in the NL has seen his pitching for a long time and know his tendancies. Eight million dollars would have been much better spent on a young pitcher from the AL.
Having said that, why couldn’t we use the money to get Greg Maddux back. He still is a very effective pitcher and the team seemed more balanced and confident when he played here.
By MiddleGA
November 19, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this
Why not bring back Rick Mahler & Rick Camp too?
This is a pitcher who had a seasonal WHIP somewhere between Carylye & Davies and clearly ran out of gas in the final month. At/near career worsts in HR allowed, OPS against, G/F ratio, and K’s.
He’s a fourth starter at best at this point & even that might be stretching it by mid-season.
By Coach (Lets Go Braves in 2008)
November 19, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this
Tommy , welcome back from purgatory. Now , we can get back to seeing the Braves in the playoffs. Maybe even get another ring , wouldn’t that be a sweet way to end a Hall of Fame career !
By Bravos
November 19, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
He is a HOF and better than the options that were available last season. Welcome back to Atlanta Tom!
By RLU
November 19, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this
I am glad Glavin will finish here but I think $8 mill is too much. And I find in hilarious everytime I see Mike Hampton listed as part of our pitching rotation. He won’t be healthy, you can count on it.
By matt marion
November 19, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this
he left in 2002 for 35m…the braves offered 30m. now he takes a 5m paycut to come back. sounds like he could have just stayed a brave. glad he’s back but what a knucklehead.
By Stephanie
November 19, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this
Nice move Frank. Nice discount Tommy. This will only help the Braves by putting John and Tommy back together with all of those young guys learning from two future Hall of Fame guys for 162 games.
It is time to forgive and forget what happened 5 years ago. Glavine helped to win the Braves their only World Series and that is ultimately how he should be remembered!
By CW
November 19, 2007 10:04 AM | Link to this
For the people that dont like this. Look at what are 3,4, & 5 starters did last year. This is a huge upgrade. he will also help the young pitchers. Welcome home Glavine!
By Dick
November 19, 2007 10:05 AM | Link to this
You CAN”T live in the past. Braves need to worry about long run and stop temp fixes to their problems.
By AJCfanatic
November 19, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this
Its like letting Benedict Arnold back into the US Army for 8 million dollars.. I got an idea.. I’m sure Kniekro can still throw the knuckle ball throw some cash his way to shore up the 4 and 5 spots.. heck i bet since we are so strapped with cash now that Roger might take 6 million a month to pitch after the all-star break.. Get on it Wren.. you have disappointed me thus far
By Tommy Can You Hear Me?
November 19, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this
That’s a lot of money for a middle reliever. I hope we aren’t expecting a lot of innings from him.
By Steve
November 19, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this
Welcome Home Tommy!!!!
By Jacob
November 19, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
Glavine was the only sure loss in our last series with him. Letting him pitch 2 games in that 5 game series ensured we’d lose. Great, just great! I’d rather have the “Mad Hungarian” than this bozo.
By Johnny Gilmer
November 19, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this
Not thrilled at all. ERA is too high. He always takes too long to warm up for the year. Smoltz stayed with us; yet so many are going ga-ga over a guy who deserted. All this plus we don’t have our old pitching coach…I do hope the others can pick up the slack or it’s basement village for the Braves.
By Joe D. loves Marilyn
November 19, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this
Glavine’s arm will stay healthy (always does)…will throw 200 + innings (always does)…will win 12-15 games (almost always does)…not bad for a 3rd or 4th starter…not to mention his ‘coachability’ for the other youg pitchers on staff…Braves will win 95 + games next year…go to playoffs…wich is all you can ask for and hope they are ‘hot’ going into playoffs…and then let’s see what happens!!!
What we have done is given ourselves a better chance of winning…not only over the course of 162 games…but adding a quality guy with that playoff experience, will pay dividends…also, more quality & depth within the 10-12 guys on the staff…
Braves are not done yet…more moves will follow to make this team stronger…from the 1st guy through the 25th guy…this team will be deeper on the pitching staff and on the bench!
Selah…
By B.P.O.E.
November 19, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this
I guess Bobby Cox was lonely and needed another leftist in the dugout to keep him company.
By cmc
November 19, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this
Welcome back Tom, we missed you even though you could have picked a better team to bolt for in 2002 than the Mets. Forgiven. Let’s make 2008 a special year for Braves fans and get back to the level we all have come to expect from a class organization. Just need a solid Center Fielder to run those line drives down for you now.
By Dawgtime
November 19, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this
I like the move. I’m actually excited about the upcoming season. IMO, the Braves are addressing areas of concern.
The new lineup will bring a great deal of energy to the team.
L John Anderson, brings the speed/defense element to the team. The kid could easily steal 40+ bases. Think back to Otis and Deion. L Kelly Johnson, excellent hitter especially with the gap open with a basestealer on 1st base. Could hit 20 homers with 20 steals. S Chipper Jones, great hitter with speed on the bases in front of him. S Mark Teixeira one of the best players in the game. Power, average, and defense. Protects Chipper.
R Jeff Francoeur, great athlete. Great defense, power, and hitting. This is a future MVP. L Brian McCann, best catcher in NL and a Georgia boy. R Yunel Escobar, I really believe this kid will hit 300 with 20+ homers. R Matt Diaz, excellent hitter to balance the order.
R Tim Hudson R John Smoltz L Tom Glavine L Chuck James R Jair Jurrjens
Closeout the game with: L Mike Gonzales R Joey Devine R Rafael Soranio
By John
November 19, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
Braves, why did you pay Tom Glavin that type of money??? He is very ineffective. Why? Why? WHY? WHY??? He’s not a quality pitcher. The days of Tommy I knew are over. Buy a rocking chair Tommy and wait on your grandchildren. Braves, WHY???
By John
November 19, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this
Braves, why did you pay Tom Glavin that type of money??? He is very ineffective. Why? Why? WHY? WHY??? He’s not a quality pitcher. The days of Tommy I knew are over. Buy a rocking chair Tommy and wait on your grandchildren. Braves, WHY???
By John Conlee
November 19, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this
But these rose colored glasses, that I’m looking through - They show only the beauty, cause they hide all the truth…
By ssidawg
November 19, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this
Tom Glavine is my all-time favorite baseball player. This is great news! Welcome home Glavine!
By prussell
November 19, 2007 10:37 AM | Link to this
Great to see Tom back! How about now that we have our #4 starter Wren pulls off a trade for a number three starter … Dontrell Willis anyone? Florida wants to dump the salary although its not too high of a salary at about $8 million for 2008. Give them James and maybe another young prospect. Willis wouldn’t have all the pressure to be “the man” with Smoltz and Hudson in front of him in the rotation. What a great rotation that would be; Smoltz, Hudson, Willis, Glavine and Hampton/Whoever.
By lin
November 19, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this
boy you braves are lucky fans are not runing the club we just might end up in 1st place wow!
By green tea
November 19, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this
8 MILLION DOLLARS???? For a #5 starter are you kidding me?? We freed up all this payroll space and we go WASTE $8M on Glavine?? Di you see his performance in the last game of the season for the sorry sack Mets in a game they HAD to win? He didn’t even make it out of the second inning. Not to mention he is a turncoat who ran to NY for more money when we needed him to stay in Atl the most. I can’t flippin believe we spent $8M on a #5 starter. What a pathetic move. Glavine, are you joking?? He better not end up being what this new GM considers bolstering our starting lineup with solely adding Glavine and counting on hampton to stay healthy. This is a horrible move. HORRIBLE!
By AARP
November 19, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this
well….we just signed a lefty to go at the back of the rotation that throws mid 80’s….dont we already have one of those, oh yeah…chuck james.
another PFP (pretty F’ing pointless) move by the front office.
Can someone please explain to me why we would WANT another 40+ year old pitcher instead of going out and getting someone who will not be a member of the AARP in the next 15 years.
Hey maybe if were lucky, Sandy Kofax will wanna come back for 1 season.
By dannyboy
November 19, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this
It really doesn’t matter who the braves sign, as long as dumb-sht Bobby F* Cox is the manager. He doesn’t have a clue as to when a pitcher should be relieved. He couldn’t win the big games when Glavine, Maddox, and Smoltz were in their prime, and he hasn’t learned much lately. Just remember the times this past season when he left tired, old pitchers in the game after they had thrown 90+ pitches. He’s the weakest link in the Braves’ organization.
By Ron Roberts
November 19, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
This has been a G R E A T offseason so far for the Braves!
Mike Cameron tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs and thus scared the Braves’ off his trail (thank GOD!)
The Braves sign Tom Glavine, making our pitching rotation as good or better than any in the National League (with, what, five or six viable options to fill the 4 and 5 spots?
Mike Hampton (one of the viable options to fill out the back-end of the rotation) might actually be making his way back.
Hell, Andruw Jones and Scott Boras might actually be realizing that a one-year affordable deal is the best option for Andruw, and we might end up w/what we wanted all along… a stop-gap one-year CF rental who can hit for power (when he does hit) and field the position well.
By The Tomohawk Kid
November 19, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this
Great Move !
Hurts the Mets & helps the Braves ! What else could you ask for ?
Great to have you back Mr. Glavine. Hope you take James under your wing.
Welcome Home !
By Sobecat
November 19, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this
Glavine is one of the most arrogant and unlikeable people in all of sports (if not the world). I don’t want him as a Brave. This is a sad day.
By Funrow
November 19, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this
Yeah he “was” a brave. Lets not forget he was the one who lead the strike in 94. Lets also not forget that he could have stayed in Atlanta but bowed to the union and went to NY for a few more dollars. We will see if Glavine can lose 5 years of ages with a one year contract
By UGAly
November 19, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this
Glavine and his strike are the reason I lost interest in MLB. Just started watching again last season. With his return, I’m done again.
By Survey Says......
November 19, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
Would those of you that support the move to sign Glavine also agree to go back and use the Windows 95 operating system on your computer?
By Sobecat
November 19, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
This is awful, I’m truly saddened.
By raindawg722
November 19, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
The Vent question is, “do you think $8 million is a good enough hometown discount?” Technically, the hometown discount is $5 million because Glavine turned down $13 million from the Mets. I am sure that the question was intentionally phrased this way because the $8 million “discount” is Glavine’s actual salary, but it probably would have been more helpful to the reader to point out the actual amount that Glavine left on the table by signing with the Braves instead of the Mets.
By Jake
November 19, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
The Mets did not want to sign this jerk They were glad that he turned down their contract offer.Tom Galvin is one of the biggest jerk in baseball. I hate the move the Braves made by bringing him back. They should have gave John Smokes the extra money as a bonus. He is my all-star Brave.
By The Rocket Surgeon
November 19, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
I think the Braves should trade Corky Miller and Chris Woodward to the Twins for Johan Santana and Joe Nathan. If the Twins want more, the Braves can throw in Scott Thorman, too.
By doing this, the Braves would acquire a top-notch starter and a good reliever, too.
Come on, Mr. Wren, let’s make it happen!
By Homer
November 19, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
Welcome back union rep. When is the current collective bargaining agreement up? That’s when Tommy will truly shine.
By Dixie Dave
November 19, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this
Now bring back Maddox too and also Ned Yost to manage when Cox retires. That way the bullpen of 1995 will be reunited and the Braves will be back to winning divisions titles again.
By raindawg722
November 19, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
Just read on Rob Neyer’s blog on ESPN that Glavine gets $3 million from the Mets. If that’s the case, the discount is more like $2 million, still a significant amount of $.
By Billy James
November 19, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this
A Quality start is given when a starting pitcher pitches at least six innings and allows three or fewer earned runs per game.
By giving up 3 or fewer runs in 6 innings pitched it gives the team a much better chance of winning.
Glavine had 24 Quality starts out of 34 starts
Hudson had 25 Quality starts out of 34 starts
Smoltz had 26 Quality starts out of 32 starts
Based on this information, Glavine was almost as identically effective as our #1 and #2 starters were last year.
When judging this acquisition, please don’t let the facts get into the way as to how you feel or think.
Smoltz will be paid $14 million in 2008 and he had 26 QS
Hudson will be paid $13 million in 2008 and he had 25 QS
Glavine will be paid $8 million in 2008 and he had 24 QS
Kinda puts things in perspective.
By bill
November 19, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
I know the National League is referred to as the “Senior League”, but having this old player adds new meaning to the term. Maybe at spring training Glavine can join the rest of the “seniors’ in Florida for the “sunset” dinner specials.
By c
November 19, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this
Wow…some folks just shouldn’t type unless they have something intelligent to write. Comparing Tom Glavine to Mark Redman? And have any of you ever considered that this is a very weak FA market year? Who else would you have them sign? Josh Fogg? Good God.
By count_schemula
November 19, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
I might have been ok with this move until Glavine’s last start in NY where he did not get out of the first.
I’d rather see the $8 as part of a multiyear package for a younger, harder thrower.
A staff with Smoltz, Hampton and Glavine is a little sketchy.
By JJ
November 19, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
Glavine is still a douche for leaving the Braves for more money in the first place, I’m gonna boo him until he wins us a World Series, then we’ll see….
By Ted
November 19, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
I’d rather have JoJo at $400,000 (who if he improves and Glavine keeps declining, wouldn’t be that far off in terms of performance), the number 18 pick in the draft and a decent CF than Josh Anderson in CF, no 1st round draft pick and a pitcher with declining skills (look at his K/9 the last few years) who is here simply for old times sake and one last payday.
By Doug Markham
November 19, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this
Tom Glavine will help the Braves, but don’t start him in Game 7 of anything. He had his one great performance in 1995, but hasn’t won a decisive or must-win game since.
I’m glad he’s back for his tenacity and smarts.
By Tommy
November 19, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this
It’s the right move if only because it was the classy thing to do for a classy guy who should’ve never left Atlanta…or been so mistreated by fans when he did so.
Glad you’re back, Tommy.
By braves fan
November 19, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this
Tommy wasn’t a great pitcher then and he won’t be now. He loses games in the first two or three innings. He left us for money - his choice but I wasn’t sorry to see him go. I AM sorry to see him return. There goes the pennant for sure.
By Sobecat
November 19, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this
I must be hallucinating. Did someone just call Glavine classy? Glavine is as far from class as a person can be.
By Teetime
November 19, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
Seems to me that the Braves do not want to be a contender this year either. I also believe this has been a done deal since before the season was over. TG chokes, and always has. He is not a good choice for a pitching rotation that is already in trouble. The 8 mil will end up biting you in the backside.
By Teetime
November 19, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
Seems to me that the Braves do not want to be a contender this year either. I also believe this has been a done deal since before the season was over. TG chokes, and always has. He is not a good choice for a pitching rotation that is already in trouble. The 8 mil will end up biting you in the backside.
By Teetime
November 19, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
Seems to me that the Braves do not want to be a contender this year either. I also believe this has been a done deal since before the season was over. TG chokes, and always has. He is not a good choice for a pitching rotation that is already in trouble. The 8 mil will end up biting you in the backside.
By Teetime
November 19, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
Seems to me that the Braves do not want to be a contender this year either. I also believe this has been a done deal since before the season was over. TG chokes, and always has. He is not a good choice for a pitching rotation that is already in trouble. The 8 mil will end up biting you in the backside.
By Teetime
November 19, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
Seems to me that the Braves do not want to be a contender this year either. I also believe this has been a done deal since before the season was over. TG chokes, and always has. He is not a good choice for a pitching rotation that is already in trouble. The 8 mil will end up biting you in the backside.
By David
November 19, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this
Reading some of these comments, I can’t see anyone criticizing NY Mets fans for the way they rant. None of you would stay in the job you are in if another company came to you and offered 25-50% more in salary each year and your old company responded by saying, “walk”.
Each of you want something from Glavine that you would never offer. That is to stay a Brave regardless of what kind of money is offered and regardless of the fact that at that point in his career, Atlanta felt that they had better options.
The Braves WANTED Glavine back. He wanted to come back and at this point in his career, he was willing to accept less money than he could and would have made elsewhere. The Braves clearly didn’t and still don’t have a lot of options available. I think you should just get past the whole “he left us” heartsob and be thankful that instead of having two reliable starters like last year, the Braves now how at least three for this year. Beyond #3 and what Atlanta does in the future with Smoltz and Glavine being aged? That’s a completely different subject?
By Pirl
November 19, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this
Take your money hungry attitude and go back to NY. Oh yeah I forgot after your impressive work the last month of the season you got run out of town.
By Jeffrey
November 19, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this
Welcome back Tommy G. You’ve been gone for a couple of months haven’t ya? It will be great to see Glavine and Smoltz back together again as the Braves we have known take a final run at glory.
By Heath
November 19, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this
Welcome home Tommy! Its nice to see a true Brave return home and finish out a hall of fame career.
By Supes
November 19, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
Benedict Glavine Returns!
Big fraking deal, I’m not going to boo him anymore (since he’s on the Braves now), but I will never forget that he left our team for the enemy….the NY Mets! Anyone else but the Mets.
Does Johnny Damon or Roger Clemens get a “warm” greeting when they go back to Boston? I don’ think so, this is no different.
It would be the same as Clemens going back to the Red Sox, after being a Yankee.
Tom Glavine was my favorite Braves player growing up as a kid, and he broke our hearts when he bolted for the cash and the extra year on the contract (nice of others to spin it looking like Glavine was the victim in that negotaion and that John S. really didn’t want him back so he didn’t offer him a fair deal.) Glavine went for the cash and the extra year, and the fact that he did that and became a NY Met in that ugly orange/black uniform…Never will forgive that.
The people that forgive are the ones who will never understand what it is to be a hardcore fan of a team. Red Sox nation and NY Yankees fan get it, Sadly here in the ATL we are way too laid back and are rather casual when it comes to Glavine returning.
It’s the same, if your girlfriend left you for another guy, got married, it didn’t work out and came crawling back after her looks faded and her best days seemed behind her.
But hey…Welcome back Benedict Glavine!
By Go Glavine
November 19, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
First of all, I believe Glavine will be a tremendous addition to the Braves rotation. I am very excited by this news.
Second, for those who say he’s not worth $8 million, you need to get some perspective. Maybe MLB players are overpaid but let’s look at who approx. $8 million buys based on recent signings:
Kris Benson - $7.5 - 11-12 - 4.82 ERA - 183 IP (2006) Livan Hernandez - $7.0 - 11-11 - 4.93 ERA - 204 IP Odalis Perez - $7.75 - 8-11 - 5.57 ERA - 137 IP Jeff Weaver - $8.35 - 7-13 - 6.20 ERA - 146 IP Randy Wolf - $7.5 - 9-6 - 4.73 ERA - 103 IP
So for all you wannabe GM’s that know more than Braves management, let’s see you make better use of $8 million on our pitching staff…Ain’t gonna happen.
By Alan
November 19, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this
Glavine is a nice guy…but he chose the union over loyalty to a team/franchise/fans who loved him (at that time). But what’s worse for the Braves is that he’s no longer starting pitcher quality. The time has come to think future, not past. 8 mil could have been spent much wiser and better.
By DHD
November 19, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this
Tommy is not one of my favorite Braves. BUT…I pull for the name on the front of the jersey, not the back. If he can help us, he’s welcome. I figure he’s at least an improvement over our #5 guy from last year. He will also help Chuck James.
By Sobecat
November 19, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
It’s not about him leaving the Braves, it’s about him being a complete a—-hole AND leading the way to the strike. They guy is just no good. Say it ain’t so Braves, say it ain’t so.
By FJR
November 19, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this
some of you people who think this is not a deal are idiots. look at what the angels just gave up for garland, a right handed pitcher with a 4.41 lifetime ERA and 92-81 record over 7 seasons. They gave up a gold glove SS, who hit .300 last year AND they threw in cash on top of picking up all of Garlands 12 Mill. salary (cabrera is making 8.5 mill).
so to recap, even at glavine’s 4.45 ERA, the market for that is definitely well over 8 million.
By Fraily
November 19, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
Let’s be honest… 1. We got a great deal $8 million for a solid pitcher is not bad for the economics of baseball in 2008. Other teams would have pay more. (The Mets were willing to pay him $13 million.)
He got a great deal. We didn’t get a hometown discount. He was paid $3 million from the Mets when he choose to opt-out from his contract. So to come to Atlanta to be close to his family he will be paid $11 million. Not bad this is why he represented the union for deals like that. He lost $2 million that he gained from not having the expense of a NY apartment.
Welcome home Tom Glavine…now if you can win 13-15 and pitch 200 innings. This will be a great deal!
By Fraily
November 19, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
Let’s be honest… 1. We got a great deal $8 million for a solid pitcher is not bad for the economics of baseball in 2008. Other teams would have pay more. (The Mets were willing to pay him $13 million.)
He got a great deal. We didn’t get a hometown discount. He was paid $3 million from the Mets when he choose to opt-out from his contract. So to come to Atlanta to be close to his family he will be paid $11 million. Not bad this is why he represented the union for deals like that. He lost $2 million that he gained from not having the expense of a NY apartment.
Welcome home Tom Glavine…now if you can win 13-15 and pitch 200 innings. This will be a great deal!
By Oregon_Braves
November 19, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
I knew this move would be controversial, but had no clue at the number of uninformed idiots that would ooze out of the woodwork.
If you are not praising this deal, you are not a true Braves fan nor do you know anything about baseball.
By Fraily
November 19, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this
Let’s be honest… 1. We got a great deal $8 million for a solid pitcher is not bad for the economics of baseball in 2008. Other teams would have pay more. (The Mets were willing to pay him $13 million.)
He got a great deal. We didn’t get a hometown discount. He was paid $3 million from the Mets when he choose to opt-out from his contract. So to come to Atlanta to be close to his family he will be paid $11 million. Not bad this is why he represented the union for deals like that. He lost $2 million that he gained from not having the expense of a NY apartment.
Welcome home Tom Glavine…now if you can win 13-15 and pitch 200 innings. This will be a great deal!
By bonzo
November 19, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this
Let’s see. It’s about May 20. Glavine is 1-2 with a 5.42 ERA, made it into the 6th twice.t Pitching against the Phillies, say, and he’s up to 84 pitches in the 5th, Braves down 4-1. Sound promising? A long summer awaits
By Joe
November 19, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this
I think it’s a great move for the Braves to reaquire one of the best leftys of all time. He will give them quality innings which they certainly lacked last year form the 3 spot in the rotation. Anyone who would take a 5 million dollar paycut to come back certainly has my approval of being warmly welcomed back… We missed you Tom.. You’ll always be a Brave to me….
By Joe
November 19, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this
I think it’s a great move for the Braves to reaquire one of the best leftys of all time. He will give them quality innings which they certainly lacked last year from the 3 spot in the rotation. Anyone who would take a 5 million dollar paycut to come back certainly has my approval of being warmly welcomed back… We missed you Tom.. You’ll always be a Brave to me….
By skc
November 19, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this
Glavine is not whats best for the Braves. As always it’s whats best for Glavine. We should have gotten a better starter who would stick with the club for a few years. Why do we always have to go back and pick up the pieces. I dont like it and Glavine wont help us out one bit. Not with Hampton throwing his arm into the front row seats and James not able to get out of the 4th inning. This is a bad move and I would have rather seen a pitcher who is capable of 18 wins. Glavine is a has been and thats all I have to say about that.
By BossLady
November 19, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this
Welcome home Tommy!!!!!!!!
By MetsfaninATL
November 19, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this
Full disclosure: I’m a Mets fan (couldn’t you guess?) and I really like Tom Glavine. But…
I do NOT think this was a good move for the Braves. It’s a lot of money to spend for a back of the rotation starter, which is what Glavine is now. A 3 or 4 starter. (See Clemens, Roger, 2007) I was glad that the Mets didn’t resign him.
He’ll be fine for y’all and I wish him luck (against everyone but the Mets) because he’s a genuinely fine ballplayer and a hall of famer. But if I was the Braves, I wouldn’t have done it.
By MDJ
November 19, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this
Forget all the strike andf ree agent stuff. The Braves need someone that can win, not another memory.
By BossLady
November 19, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this
Dewayne: What a wonderful and unselfish thought. The world needs more people like you that can just be real.
By Ron Roberts
November 19, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this
I love all the anti-union clamor here. Comical, to say the least. Folks wanna hate Glavine and the players’ union, I’m guessing, for the strike of 1994, but let’s remember they were fighting with mega-millionair owners, too; the same owners who couldn’t come to agree on revenue-sharing to create some competitive balance in the game and the same owners who now gouge us with cable and satellite TV packages when we used to get most of our games on local television or TBS or WGN free of charge, and televise playoff games at such absurdly late hours because TV revenue dictates it.
Don’t get me wrong; the ballplayers can make obscene amounts of money, as well, but they’re also entitled to their share and when they feel like the average player’s not making his fair share of what’s been a growing amount of money in the industry, you have to stand up for your rights.
And who, among us, wouldn’t leave our current employers if our employers’ competitors came at us with a sweeter, multi-year contract? Don’t be hypocritical; most of us would do it in a heart-beat. Glavine’s then-employer (th Braves) made a low-ball offer and the Mets had a sweeter arrangement. Big deal. He did what most of us would.
By Pago Pago
November 19, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
He’s worth $50 million a year, after all, the poor fan will pay for it when the ticket prices go UP! Pretty funny.
By Fred
November 19, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this
The trade the Angels (P -Garland)just made with the White Sox (SS - Cabrera)is the one that should have been made my Wren (for Renteria)
Tommy was great but we should have traded Renteria for Garland if we expect to get deep into the playoffs in 08.
You go after a 29yo arm that has won 18 games (recently) versus a 42yo arm that showed signs of weakness last year.
Ideally we should have gotten both Garland and Glavine since Hampton is a ?mark and James is not very good.
I hope JJ is a phenom but quick or is used to acquire one b/c Wren looks a little silly today.
By Fan since 66
November 19, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this
Great news,Tell me where else you could get a 13 game winner for 8 million dollars? A proven major league picher with over 300 lifetime wins.I don’t care if Glavine is 42 or 22 he is a winner.And all of you people crying about what happend in 1994,most of you have no ideal what that was even all about.All you guys with the negative opinions about everything need to get someone else to pull for.The Braves and the “THE TRUE THROUGH THICK OR THIN” fans don’t need a bunch of crying whining idiots calling themselves fans of this team.If you can’t support this team stay the he!! off the blog with your negative bullsh!t.
By Roberto
November 19, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this
If his last performance is any indication, we’re in for a long season. I don’t like this move!
By Mike
November 19, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
Ugh, some of you are just plain retarded.
For example, the comment complaining about Tom’s $8 million salary and then saying we should have paid $1 million per win, maybe. Yeah, at $8 million, the Braves will be paying around $750,000 per win.
For all you people complaining about his ERA: remember, Turner Field is a pitcher’s park.
For all you people complaining about his age, I ask you this: how old is John Smoltz?
For all you people complaining about him being a traitor: how much money have the Braves offered him the previous two times he has been a free agent?
This was the best free agent starting pitcher available (forget trades, we’ve traded most everyone away) and its economically sensible.
Get over yourselves. Welcome back Glavine!
By AARP
November 19, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this
why does everyone ignore the fact that he’s OLD.
Sure, in today’s free agent market, $8 million is a good price for a quality pitcher, but how many years is Mr. Wonderful (glavine) going to be around.
Why didnt we spend that money on a YOUNG pitcher, you know…someone who might be around longer than 8 months.
I’m just saying.
By FJR
November 19, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this
Fred, Garland won 18 games recently in a year he had a 4.52 ERA, which last I checked was higher than Glavine’s from last year. He had a great offense behind him that year and a LOT of luck. Garland has also, recently, had a year with a 4.89 ERA. Garland has only ever had one good year, which most people rightly view as an aberration. Garland isn’t a better pitcher than Glavine and would cost us 4 million more. OVer the last 4 years, Glavine’s stats have been SUBSTANTIALLY better. Last year Garland was .2 runs per game better, the previous year Glavine was .7 runs per game better, The year before that was a wash between then (the best year of Garland’s career) and the year before that Glavine’s ERA was 1.2 runs per game better
By DontNeedTommy
November 19, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this
I’m so glad that we Mr. Player Rep back. Remember after the last strike when he came out and said “the fans have an obligation to come support us”. Well, guess what, Tommy G. I haven’t been to a game since then. You are a greedy rich guy who knew he could suck several more millions out of a club, knowing full well that your abilities as a pitcher as shot. Pathetic!
By Brave fan for life
November 19, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this
Addressing “Fan since 66”, you must be an old bird yourself since you are rooting for Glavin; he is on the decline in his baseball career. Don’t use bad language on the blog since you diagree with other people’s opinion. Since you love Glavin and don’t see no wrong in the contract he was awarded, this is an opinion poll whether you lke it or not. Get a few of your old buddies and start an Over the Hill league and let Glavin be your ace, and let Glavin throw one right dowm the middle and knock your ol’ a$$ out and out of sight. Game over. Go Braves!
By Allen
November 19, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this
Glavine’s signed - Now What? Where do the Braves spend all that money that Liberty says they have and what they have saved from trading Renteria and not re-signing Andruw?
By AARP
November 19, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
Hey Brave fan for life
you would think that FAN SINCE 66 would have more manners than to bring his foul mouth in here cursing those who do not agree with his antiquated views.
Greatest Generation my a*….Tom Brokaw’s a punk
By Mike
November 19, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
AARP, Probably because you can’t sign a good young pitcher for $8 million.
Basically, Glavine will be stop-gap at starting pitcher until some of the younger arms are major league ready.
By cursive
November 19, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
Welcome Back! I hope Liberty Media coughs up some more cash to actually help our rotation! Otherwise we’re screwed once again!
In all seriousness, thinking of a weekend series with Smoltz, Hudson and Glavine as the one, two and three gets me a little teary-eyed and excited. I’m looking forward to it and hoping for the best!
By Steve
November 19, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
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I stop caring about MLB during the players strike in which Glavine played a major role …
I totally lost interest in Pro Baseball with the steady stream of steroid stories …
Glavine Returns Home ?
Who Cares …
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By leroy
November 19, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this
you got to be kidding me is this the best 8 million can get you? I can see it now braves baseball sponsered by depends adult undergarments well at least when 90% of the fans glavine’s age have a going problem we won’t miss much of the game as glavine will be going too.
you dump andrew for this?
By AARP
November 19, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this
Livan Hernandez….
john Garland….
Just to name a couple.
I’m just saying.
By Gary
November 19, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this
Braves are wasting money they should be using on developing young talent, especially pitching. Good Lord, he 42 years old, done, past his prime. Combine that w/ ‘ol baldy Smoltx and all you have is 2 very old pitchers who should be giving lessons at Sportsarama much less starting for the braves. I think the Yankees, Mets & other teams have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that you can not buy a World Series team. You might get fairly close, but in the end, it doesn’t work. That 8 mil would be much better spent on some much younger players. You could get 2 or 3 easy w/ that kinda money. …And to that clown who was swearing at us posters who don’t agree w/ his views: so you’ve been a fan since ‘66? Was that 1866? Be careful, you might trip over your oxygen bottle.
By Good Riddance
November 19, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this
For all of you more interested in right wing politics than in the Braves, shut up, go watch Rush. Good riddance to all of you. Braves fans say welcome back Tommy.
By JS
November 19, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this
You’re on thin ice Tommy. I’d say you’re worth about half that much now-a-days. Maybe we’ll send you back to the Mets.
By bruce
November 19, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this
Of course he should be welcomed back! I rode him harder than any other Brave fan b/c he went to the Mets. He’s a Brave and should get all the respect that demands!
And if you’re concerned about a the amount of money he’s earning, I’d urge you to look at the money other 15 game winners are asking on today’s market….a very fair contract!
By jeff
November 19, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this
tom terrific will again be exactly that-he is the real thing- his effect on the younger players is profound-it is always good to come home
By jeff
November 19, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this
tom terrific will again be exactly that-he is the real thing- his effect on the younger players is profound-it is always good to come home
By Bill
November 19, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this
What a JOKE! This washed-up, has been, traitor is just back to stick it to us again.. Bet he doesn’t make it through half the season.. but will sure take the $$ anyway. Didn’t it occur to anyone that NO ONE else was interested?
By Dick
November 19, 2007 2:49 PM | Link to this
Eight million will buy a lot of Ben Gay, Deep heat and geritol. This was a waste, will always be a waste, and we are not any better off than this time last week. All this signing did was give Smolt, HUdson and Francouer a fourth to make a steady, daily foursome.
By Jake
November 19, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
We’re putting the band back together…
By GT81
November 19, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this
Just so yall know…I used to be fansince66 (one word). That’s not me cursing in here. Not that you care! Go Bravos!
By jaxbeachdawg
November 19, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this
I cannot tell you how disgusted I am with this signing
The audacity of TG to offer us a “hometown discount at 8million for one year” I am currently taking an over/under bet on when this guy goes on the DL list for the entire year and then laughs all the way to the bank. Tom Glavine is the epitome of what is wrong with baseball!!!!!
By CEM
November 19, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this
The Braves can bring Glavine back so that he can retire as a Brave, but they couldn’g do the same for Andruw Jones. Racial conspiracy, if you ask me. I won’t be watching or going to anymore of their games.
By Young
November 19, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this
Trade Smoltz and sign Albie Lopez as the #1 starter. If the Braves pay, he will pitch.
By dude
November 19, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this
A couple months ago glavine’s wife was heckling my sister for wearing a braves shirt. I hope he doesn’t expect a warm reception from the fans.
By June
November 19, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
Tell the Braves that Albie Lopez and Mark Redman are ready to come back.
By donovan
November 19, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this
Anyone who thinks the braves resigning glavine for 8 million per year is a good move obviously does not know anything about baseball and is living in the past. Galvine is three past his prime, the braves need and good young hard throwing pitcher (dan Haren in oakland who is going to be available comes to mind) the 8 mill we freed in the renteria trade has now gone to waste..thanks frank!
By June
November 19, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
I hope Glavine will get hurt so the Braves can use the insurance money for Glavine to get Albie Lopez or Mark Redman.
By OK
November 19, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
OK Your back. Don’t f* it up. Train with the best trainer U can find. Be a renissance man. We need U to come thru. If U can keep us in some games and eat up some innings— then all is forgiven. No extra dressing this year. LOL Good Luck GLAV
By Blue Water
November 19, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this
I was glad to see him go and hate he’s back. He could never win a game if the umpires only called strikes. I will go on hating the Braves and long as him and Chippie are there. White trash for sure.
By Bob
November 19, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this
I am still amazed that folks still even care about professional sports with all the strikes and “Above the Law” antics of the past decade. If you truly love the sport of baseball, then go watch a highschool or college game. Those guys play for the love of the game.
By Bob
November 19, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this
I am amazed that folks still even care about professional sports with all the strikes and “Above the Law” antics of the past decade. If you truly love the sport of baseball, then go watch a highschool or college game. Those guys play for the love of the game.
By Bob
November 19, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this
I am amazed that folks still even care about professional sports with all the strikes and “Above the Law” antics of the past decade. If you truly love the sport of baseball, then go watch a highschool or college game. Those guys play for the love of the game.
By Ken Stallings
November 19, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
Of course it’s a good move. It’s better than that. It’s a great move!
Even if Glavine wins just 10 games, the $8 million contract means just this win total is worth every penny. But on a psychological scale, it’s off the charts.
Glavine is still a very good pitcher. He eats up innings and that will keep our bullpen intact. And having him back as a Brave is simply the right thing.
Tom Glavine is the man most responsible for our world title. That game six performance ranks as one of the finest in baseball history. Tommy should have remained a Brave his whole career. Now at least, it seems he can end his career a Brave.
And if he gets 10 wins or more, and performs well I hope the Braves offer him another one-year contract in 2009!
By rob
November 19, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
Bravo! Bravos!
By lynn
November 19, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
Can you say CHOKE?
By Scott
November 19, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this
Welcome home Tommy.
By LAC
November 19, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this
Bring back Bob Horner and Murphy too!
When will The Braves start making SERIOUS moves to rebuild this team ?
By June
November 19, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this
Braves are great on signing paper throwers. Tell the Braves that Mark Redman and Albie Lopez are ready to closeout the forth and fifth starters. I think the Braves have enough pitchers to face the best teams in next year Little League World Series.
By mayretter local
November 19, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this
Why oh why did they sign Cox to another contract?!?!?!?! good grief!!! Yes, he can win division, but where are the other RINGS!!!!!!
Bring back Torre!!!!! :)
By Najeh Davenpoop
November 19, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this
Welcome back Glavine, but the Braves still need to get young talented pitchers so that they are set for the future when Smoltz and Glavine retire.
By Mike
November 19, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
Welcome back, Tommy. Atlanta is where you belong. It’ll be cool to have you and Smoltzie out there again together. The world is back in balance.
By J .Horhn
November 19, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
I heard Mark Wohlers and Steve Avery put in applications too…Might as well go get Lemke and Blauser while we’re at it, I wonder what kind of wheels Sid Bream has now.
By Biff
November 19, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
Can we bring back Rick Camp, Rick Mahler, Pascual Perez? What about Craig McCurtry or Bob Walk? There is no telling what they would bring in this market. With two 40+ year old pitchers on the same roster making millions, I’m sure they would gladly pitch for the minimum and then give some back.
By June
November 19, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
Do not worry the Braves will never win another division again, on the other hand, they may never win period if the keep getting paper throwers or bringing them back.
By Braves Fan but not a Glavine Fan
November 19, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
Here is my response to you re the signing of Glavine. I think it was a colossal mistake! I will continue to be a Braves fan, but I will be a Braves fan for four out of five games. I will not pay to watch Glavine pitch, I will not attend any game that he is scheduled to pitch, and I will not watch any game on TV when he pitches. I will give you four reasons for my opinion about Glavine: =20 =20 1) the way he conducted his personal life during his early years in Atlanta when he went to American Pie and picked up a nail technician. I still remember the “tell-all” interview she did with the press 2) Glavine was very outspoken and told all of us (the fan base) what he really thought about us during the strike. =20 3) Glavine thumbed his nose at all of us (fans) and also thumbed his nose at the Atlanta Braves players, and also thumbed his nose at the Atlanta Braves management when he went to New York 4) He is as responsible as anybody else on the Mets team and/or their managers and coaches for their free-fall at end of last season. If Glavine had won either one of the last two games he pitched, the Mets would have made the play-offs. =20 =20 Hopefully, he will be third or fourth in the rotation, so that all of us who have been loyal fans (loyalty not shared by Glavine) will be able to watch and enjoy the first few games of the new season. I will then skip his start, and watch the next few games until he makes his next start. I absolutely will not add myself to the number of fans at the ball park or the number of TV viewers on the days that Glavine pitches!
By Former Fan
November 19, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
Bringing back Glavine is a mistake. The only reason he left was because after his last two “efforts” as a Met, he was booed off the mound. The Met fans will never forgive him!!! I don’t like baseball anymore. The whole Barry Bonds deal and this Rodriguez contract, I’m through with baseball. Baseball went from America’s pasttime to big business and the real eans are suffering, especially the kids. DON’T take ME out to the ball game!!!!
By June
November 19, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
Can the Braves bring Cy Young back, Oh, he is dead. Dig him up and bring him back.
By bravesinthe90s
November 19, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
While we’re at it, let’s make Dale Murphy a one-year offer. Maybe Hank wants to play, too! They can be the AARP Braves. I can’t wait. Give a kid from the farm a shot. Glavine had his.
By fes
November 19, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this
while i’m glad to see glavine back in a braves uni, scheurholz should have never let him leave in the first place. we wouldn’t have found ourselves in the bad spots that we did over the last few seasons if he had just given tom that extra year that he wanted. and for what? so that we can get him AFTER that period is up and he’s more likely to be regarded as a has-been. another blunder by the front office of the bravos. oh well. go thrashers.
By TG
November 19, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this
Glavine will be a solid #3-4. If we can get 10-12 wins from him, then we got a good deal. Welcome back Tommy!
We can also grab Maddux next year when his contract extension is over!
By Another Arkansas Braves Fan
November 19, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this
Great move. Welcome back Tom! He will great with the young pitchers and it will be nice to have somebody reliable. Go Braves!
By June
November 19, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this
Can the Braves bring Cy Young back, Oh, he is dead. Hell, dig him up and bring him back. The Braves can use another dead arm pitcher and it would not hurt.
By PostseasonBlues
November 19, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
Now lets see if he gets the pattened “Tommy 6 inches off of either side of the plate” strikezone as he had when he was in Atlanta previously. He sure as hell didn’t get it in a Mets uniform. Yup chirping “Bourbon” Bobby Coxed. Thickones Georgie?
By June
November 19, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this
Can the Braves bring Cy Young back, Oh, he is dead. Hell, dig him up and bring him back. The Braves can use another dead arm pitcher, it would not hurt.
By BRAVESHART
November 19, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
I can see why some of these braindeads blog on here instead of the “real” blog. They(the ones who really know baseball)would tear you a new one. The Braves are very fortunate to get Glavine back for 8M and he will be worth every penny of it. If you can’t see something as obvious as that, go watch NASCAR.
By ericMann
November 19, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this
If they could get Leo (Mazzonee) back too, that’d be great also, huh?
By June
November 19, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this
The Braves are very fortunate to have Cy Young pitching for them too, you bonehead and Glavine rear end kisser.
By PostseasonBlues
November 19, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this
Yes BRAVESHART, because if he doesn’t have to throw strikes like the last time he was in a Braves uniform then it will be an excellent move for the Braves. As simple as knowing the sport! LMAO!
By June
November 19, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this
The Braves are very fortunate to have Cy Young pitching for them too, you bonehead and Glavine’s rear end kisser. Hell, if you think Glavine’s 8m is cheap, Cy Young is pitching for free, you cannot beat that deal.
By June
November 19, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
We are signing Leo for 21M, tomorrow. We will have two clowns on our pitching staff. Maybe, we can invite the whole Notre Dame football team to show them how losing feel like. Heck, they knew that coming in, they just want to see how professionals are doing it.
By John
November 19, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
Well it’s great to see the Braves are investing in their Youth program. What? You mean Glavine is not coming back to replace Cox? Pitch? He couldn’t win the big one after ‘95 when he was here before and much younger. He failed to perform down the stretch last year for the Mets, and now he’s here. Doesn’t this show how desperate we are for pitching?
By jason
November 19, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
he’s a traitor. Imagine if Johnny Daman tried to resign with the Red Sox! No Difference here execept ATL fans suck
By jason
November 19, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this
he’s a traitor. Imagine if Johnny Daman tried to resign with the Red Sox! No Difference here execept ATL fans suck
By June
November 19, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
Actually, BRAVESHART, NASCAR would be more interesting to watch than a bunch of paper throwers.
By June
November 19, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this
If Glavine thinks NY is bad, wait and see how he will be treated when he cannot throw strikes. BRAVESHART will be the only person watching like the ‘I Am Legend’ movie.
By Former Fan
November 19, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this
Hey BRAVESFART,
“Very fortunate” indeed!!! YOU go watch NASCAR because you certainly don’t know much about baseball!!! Glavine left because he wanted too, he could have stayed and won his 300th here. He is coming back because he can’t stay with the Mets and no other team would have him. Let’s see what you have to say next October Mr. Deadhead.
By BRAVESHART
November 19, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this
Is June busting out all over?
By Scott
November 19, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this
To Ron Roberts and your comments about anti union clamor and the fact we would all do the same thing. I totally agree. However, don’t ask me to look at baseball as a fan of a game being played and be loyal to the team. It’s a business and I can buy or not buy the product. The product, in this case TG, is not worth the asking price.
By Miltizzle
November 19, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this
More of an emotional deal than one taht could really help the Braves reach the post season. A real waste of time and money; but at least it’s right in line with the obvious good-ole newtork we’re all familiar with…
By June
November 19, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this
Is Jeff Readon coming back Mrs. BRAVESHART?
By Charlie
November 19, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this
If they remember his age and give him extra days when they can and not overuse him during the first half, this will be a good signing. Unfortunately they now have 2 guys, Smoltz and Glavine, who will breakdown and falter late in the year with too much work. This make Hampton even more important.
By June
November 19, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this
This will be the first year that I am not going to miss watching the Braves, or should I say the Tommy Glavine.
By June
November 19, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this
Well, I just change my mind because I hope Chris Glavine will come to the game to support her man because she looks good.
By MG
November 19, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this
$8 million for a 4/5 starter…no wonder we haven’t sniffed the WS in years. Should have spent the $$$$ elsewhere. Glavine is done…10 wins max this year.
By June
November 19, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this
10 wins, hell, maybe ten innings. Look at Mark Redman last year.
By E Hale
November 19, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this
What a great move. Glavine is a class guy and it’s nice to see someone think more of family than the almighty dollar. If Glavine doen’t win a game it will be alright with me it’s great to have him back in a braves uniform. Good Luck Tommy!
By 59bulldawg
November 19, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this
I don’t think any Braves fan who follows the game expects Glavine to be in Cy Young form at this stage of his career. But he doesn’t have to be to help this team. Any ERA below 4.00 will be good and anything below 3.50 will be great IMHO! Although I wish he’d never left, I suspect many of us fans would have done similar if given the chance to make the kind of money he made in New York. I also think that if we’d had him this past season, the Bravos might have made the playoffs. But all of that is in the past now. I’m happy Tommy has come home. It’ll be a Braves cap that he wears when he’s inducted at Cooperstown and Atlanta is where he belongs!
By AJ
November 19, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this
I don’t like this at all.
What can a 42 years old pitcher do to our rotation? 10 wins…maybe. I agree with MG, $8 million a year for a 4/5 starter is not a good deal and those people that think that are homers.
I think we could probably still get Steve Avery or Denny Neagle on the cheap these days…
By June
November 19, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this
When you are old and cannot pitch, you cannot think much or you just take what is given.
By WCJ
November 19, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this
He”s a number 4 starter at best, but he’s better than what the braves got at that position.
By Peter
November 19, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this
Tom Glavin the class guy who cheated on his wife, then divorced her to marry the Mistress……….sure lots of class……then left the Braves for the BIG NY money, only to come back when NO One would have him.
WOW what a great move…..$8 million to a guy who went out to the tune of 7 runs and 1/3 of an inning in his Biggest start as a MET, also his LAST start as a Met !
By el jefe
November 19, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this
screw glavine - he is a turncoat traitor. i have decided to stop booing him, but i draw the line at cheering him…
By Some Other Mike
November 19, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this
While we’re dealing in the offseason, can we trade the ObnoxioTron for a pitcher? I’ll even take magic beans for that thing.
By Charlie in Miami
November 19, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this
Love Tommy Glavine!
But, for a moment there, I thought he was coming to replace Roger McDowell! LOL
By drphonic
November 19, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this
Naw man, this is just great. Look at Glavine’s record. At least he is reliable. We’re lucky we got him. Smoltz, Hudson, Glavine, Hampton (maybe), Jurgens, James + several others. That rotation looks pretty good to me. What’s all this traitor crap? Get a life.
By Charlie in Miami
November 19, 2007 7:04 PM | Link to this
Glavine today would be a great pitching coach
By Here We Go Again!
November 19, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this
Tommy is the REAL “GENERAL BETRAY US”!!! While I love my BRAVES - I cannot forgive Tommy Glavine. He will forever be a TRADER to me! That said, I do hope he contributes to a winning 2008 for the sake of the Braves TEAM. Tommy has never been about T E A M!
By BRAVESHART
November 19, 2007 7:24 PM | Link to this
June What kind of bug are you?
By BRAVESHART
November 19, 2007 7:28 PM | Link to this
Of course “dumb bugs” is an oxymoron, but June exceeds that.
By Interested in the Braves again
November 19, 2007 7:37 PM | Link to this
I can understand the hard feelings that fans may have had upon Glavine’s departure. However, I say, welcome back home, Tom. You’ve been missed.
By bababo0y
November 19, 2007 7:46 PM | Link to this
this is all so simple… tom glavine could have made 13 mill… but he chose to sign with us for 8.
we added better pitching then we have had in the 3-4 hole then we have had in the last 2 years… and we did not lose any pitching!
how could anyone say this is bad? even if tom isnt what he used to be he is better then we have had!
pluss we took away the mets ace… well thats how they used him anyway.
that alone gives us a huge advantage!
this is nothing but good for us no matter how u see it.
who cares if hes old?
By Carol Hall
November 19, 2007 7:51 PM | Link to this
Aw,does this mean no more Glavine/Smoltz matchups???? Just kidding. Welcome back, Tommy!!! We have missed you!
By TM
November 19, 2007 7:52 PM | Link to this
Does anyone here, who claims $8 million is to much to pay for Glavine, know anything about the current state of baseball contracts. Basically, the cost of players (ESPECIALLY PITCHERS) has gone through the roof. I mean, last year the Phillies signed Adam Eaton to a contract worth $12 million per year…Eaton has never pitched more than 200 innings in a season or had a winning record! In other words, $8 million don’t get you much right now.
Regardless of the sentimental value, try and think about what the Braves really needed last year. They need help at the back of rotation, behind Smoltz and Hudson. That is where you plug in Glavine - in the 3rd or 4th spot in the rotation. All I know is that this most definitely beats having Mark Redman there.
By Tim
November 19, 2007 8:07 PM | Link to this
CEM listen to your post….
“The Braves can bring Glavine back so that he can retire as a Brave, but they couldn’g do the same for Andruw Jones. Racial conspiracy, if you ask me. I won’t be watching or going to anymore of their games.”
Seriously how old are you??? You are a pathetic excuse for a human being. Hundreds of thousands of people have died in the battle against racism and for you to make a joke of it is extremely sad. YOU are the racist. shut up and never post anything again.
By tom
November 19, 2007 8:51 PM | Link to this
LONG OVERDUE! Welcome Home!
By Sherry L.
November 19, 2007 11:45 PM | Link to this
YEAH!!! He’s finally back. I can’t wait until the spring. So good to have you back, Tommy!!
By P.NASH
November 20, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
lONG TIME READER, FIRST TIME WRITER..HUGE FAN IN INDIANA… SINCE BOROS’ SEEMS TO HAVE LOST HIS FIRE POWER,MY GUESS IS A.JONES WANTS TO STAY IN ATL. AND WOULD SETTLE FOR MUCH LESS. BOY WOULD I LOVE TO SEE HIM BACK…HE’LL HAVE A HUGE YEAR NEXT YEAR…WHEREVER… THAT MIGHT BE THE FINALPIECES..ONE YEAR CONTRACT ALONG WITH TOMMY G…
By B.J.
November 20, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this
“Glavine - Not with open arms”” I just can’t do it. I just can’t welcome back Glavine with open arms. Glavine was one of my baseball heroes for many years before he left the Braves. Game 6 in 95 was one of my best memories. I listened to the press conference, and his emotionless banter just reminds me of the recent past. In the beginning , he couldn’t even simply say that he’s glad to be back. Reminds me of his interviews during the strike as player Pres, when he never commented on the effect of the strike on fans. Reminds me mostly of how he left to go to the Braves biggest rival over an option year. Knife in the back. I understand the demeanor during the press conference. That’s just Tom Glavine. I also agree that he should end his career with the Braves where he gave the organization so much. I’ll just have to work on it. Stroll down memory lane - Remember the game against the Phillies after Murph was traded when Glavine had to throw at Murph and threw 35 MPH change-ups at his feet?
By JBravesFan
November 20, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this
Welcome Home Tommy! Glad to have you back where you belong!
By NS at Kennesa
November 20, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this
Welcome back
Now, Tommy, instead of spending time during this off season cerebrating your return, please make sure you get yourself in good physical shape for ‘08.
By Jill Hogan
November 29, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
Glad to hear about the return, but since he isn’t African-American I doubt the AJC’s Terrance Moore is happy.