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By Patrick

October 11, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

I’m crying… Greatest GM ever… I’m crying, saddest day as a Braves fan, probably.

By dork

October 11, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

man, this is gonna really suck!

By Stephanie

October 11, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

NOOOO

By wes

October 11, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

By breamrounds3rd

October 11, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

This can’t be good. First sign that Liberty media wants to sink this team. Arthur Blank, we need you to buy this team!

By Vic

October 11, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

I am a long-time Yankees fan (born in NY so don’t hate), but I met John Schuerholz and read parts of his book and the man is a true genious. The Braves had, in my opinion, the best farm-system out of all the teams in MLB today. It sucks for you Braves fans, but hopefully the new GM does well. And thank good Schuerholz at least helped you guys by not re-signing Andrew Jones because he is just a money leech.

By Brian

October 11, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

This is a very very sad day in braves baseball. This man could control of a franchise in the dumps and brought it to royalty. It is impossible to replace a man like this, but if anyone can, it is Frank Wren. I will truely miss him. Thank you John.

By Vic

October 11, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

I am a long-time Yankees fan (born in NY so don’t hate), but I met John Schuerholz and read parts of his book and the man is a true genious. The Braves had, in my opinion, the best farm-system out of all the teams in MLB today. It sucks for you Braves fans, but hopefully the new GM does well. And thank good Schuerholz at least helped you guys one last time by not re-signing Andrew Jones because he is just a money leech.

By 59bulldawg

October 11, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

JS’s tenure as GM will be remembered as our golden age of baseball in Atlanta. He set the standard for GMs for years to come. If only Time Warner had been as committed to excellence as JS and loosened the purse strings … there’s no doubt in my mind that Atlanta would have won more WS titles. Thanks JS for your commitment. You were simply the best! Next stop Cooperstown!

By Bo

October 11, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

Great man and great GM. Hate to see him go.

By TG

October 11, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

Its about time… now we need to promote Bobby Cox to GM and Terry Pendleton as manager….

By Choppy

October 11, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Wow. I guess change was inevitable. I can’t say that I worry too much about there being a dip in the quality of management with the Braves. Frank Wren has been with John S. for a long time, so he knows how to do it. But it is a sad day nonetheless, to lose such an important figure in Atlanta baseball history. I just hope he’s retiring and not moving north or something (to run the Yankees or Nationals).

By NASCARfan

October 11, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

Can he take Bobby the Boob with him?

By chipdip

October 11, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this

End of an era..just another nail in the coffin for the braves….totally a huge shock!!!!

By ghostzilla

October 11, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

this is a resignation, not a retirement. That would indicate that he was forced out, or that he was not happy with his lot with the new ownership.

Can anyone confirm?

By Joe (Atlanta)

October 11, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this

To me, this is a said day in Atlanta Braves Baseball. JS is one of the reasons this francise became winners. Yes, we have slipped of late, but we have a solid corp of players to build around….he doesnt leave the cubboard bare.

JS, thanks for all you have done for this city and this francise.

Go Braves

By terrell

October 11, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Should’ve been Richie Mckay.

By Barry Cesspit

October 11, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Didn’t see this coming, but all good things must come to an end, right? I’m sure Mr. Schuerholz is leaving with his head held high — he’s done an incredible job for the Braves, and has done it with class. Frank Wren has been prepared well, and I’m sure he’ll do an excellent job going forward.

By BT

October 11, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

Their has to be a lot more to be known about this. Last week JS sounded “fired up” about the off season, although very touchy (on the radio).

By bravedawg

October 11, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

It’s a sad day! With him resigning it makes you wonder why all of a sudden, but who knows John Schuerholz never talked to the media about anything so this could have been planned a long time ago. Big shoes to fill, another legend leaving town. Best wishes John. Thanks for everything!!!! GO BRAVES!!

By Bobby Crocks

October 11, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

good i am glad this guy is out of the way hopefully bring in some fresh blood will be good.. of course the braves can’t compete with a 80 mill payroll anyway. not when the mets and phillies are have 90-100 mill payroll braves are done and finished unless they get a owner who is willing to have a payroll of 140-150 million braves will not make it back to world series period end of story

By A Real Fan

October 11, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

What’s the inside scoop. Did the new owners cut payroll?

By Hayes

October 11, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

WTF????

By Brooks

October 11, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

I still think the Braves should have kept Andruw!!!!!!!!! But so long Schuerholz.. Thanks for your dedication over the past 17 years.

By Jared

October 11, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

This is not good and I think Bobby Cox will be following soon after, maybe one more year. But thank you Schuerholz, I’m 28 and you have made watching baseball in Atlanta fun for over half my life…

By DOG THE MAN

October 11, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

I give Mr. S. alot of credit. But it must be noted that when he had the budget to aquire talent he did a bang up job. When Time Warner restricted the budget he maintained, but did not increase our chances of winning. I see this more of Time Warner’s fault than his, though he shares of some of the blame. I thank him for his continued professionalism and his clear vision. He bought Braves Baseball to the greatest hieghts..

By Cody

October 11, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

WOW, didnt see this coming at all.

By There goes the neighborhood

October 11, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

Things are sorry :(

By Cody

October 11, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

WOW, didnt see this coming at all. Maybe we will give Ol’Dayton Moore a call and try and bring him back.

By Rev. Zoldars

October 11, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

What the hell is going on? This is way out of left field, and i didn’t realize schuerholz was even platooning out there

By JM

October 11, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

I tremendously respect JS and am sad to see him go as it’s the end of a great era, but I don’t think this a terrible development for the Braves from a baseball standpoint. It’s never good to have a GM who you know is going to step at any time. My fear was that he would ravage the farm system for one last shot at the World Series. It’s probably best for him to step aside now and leave the team in the capable hands of Frank Wren.

Thanks for all you did for the Braves and good luck in the future, JS.

By DH

October 11, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Bummer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Nate

October 11, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

I don’t know the conditions of his departure, but I feel sick. I love disinterested multi-billion dollar companies owning my favorite teams. This sucks!

By Kris

October 11, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

As a Braves fan, I am stunned, shocked and in disbelief. This announcement came out of the blue. If JS didn’t think Frank Wren could do the job, he wouldn’t have turn the GM job over to him.

It is end of era. I thought that both Schuerholz and Cox would leave together but it is not to be.

It is a sad day for us loyal Braves fans.

Happy Retirement JS. Good Luck Frank Wren.

By FIRST

October 11, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

FIRST!!!!!!!!!

By Bubba

October 11, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

It’s a sad day for the fans and the Atlanta Braves he will surely be missed.Good luck John and thanks for all the respectability you brought to the Atlanta Braves.

By geekboy

October 11, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

First rat off sinking ship.

Too bad we couldn’t trade him for a young quality starter.

By chipdip

October 11, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

THE END IS NEAR!!!!!!!!!!!

By Frank

October 11, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

A terrible loss for the Braves. A sign of even worse things to come, in my view.

By mikeyd

October 11, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Thanks to the new owners for making this possible. The drought is spreading to baseball, football and hockey here in Atlanta.

By Chris

October 11, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Wow. This is indeed the end of an era. I really thought JS would be back for Cox’s (probable) final season. It’s very sad that he has to go out without a playoff team. I wonder if the guys would’ve found those extra few wins if they had known this 2 months ago, but knowing JS, he did not want to be a distraction to the team.

The good news is that he is being replaced by the man he groomed for 7 years. At least we aren’t bringing in an outsider. Frank Wren is the right man for this job.

Next year…Cox hands the reins over to TP, and we keep it all in the family.

Good luck, Mr. Schuerholz. Thanks for all you’ve done for the Braves in your 17 years here.

By Roswell Ed

October 11, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Thanks John.

You’re the best!!!

By Clara

October 11, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Too bad he would not resign Andrew. He totally didrespected the guy

By Jeff

October 11, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

Most rats jump off a sinking ship.

By Black & Right

October 11, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

Hank Aaron should be the G.M., without a doubt.

By phil

October 11, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

It will be interesting to see whay shakes out of this. ESPN is speculating that the budget for next year is going to be close to this years and that is why JS is leaving. No matter who the GM is if the owners are not going to put money into the team they cant succed. Maybe they should move Bobby into the GM spot as he was in toronto and bring in torre as manager. I’m sad to see JS go he is part of the team like Cox and the players but bottom line he did the best who could with what money he was given, so good luck to the new GM. Hey owners time to support your fans and spend some cash.

By TURTSNAP

October 11, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

WOW! No one saw that coming!! Schuerholz was a God-send to the Braves and is a master of trades, especially early in the Braves run. Even though it didn’t produce the result we wanted, he did pull off the Tex trade to cap off a remarkable run. Thanks for the memories John!!!

By bill

October 11, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

This is a shock but I did say that JS would gut the farm system and leave. Frank Wren is not the right person for the job. Something must have happened at their meeting to cause JS to quit. Look for more shake ups and they will take a dip for a few seasons.

By Eric Kunzweiler

October 11, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

“The economics of baseball stinks”. It’s about time we get rid of that attitude and deal with the situation the way it should be handled. There are several teams that can operate on a budget less than $100 million. I was so tired of listening to Scherholtz complain. Welcome aboard, Mr. Wren.

By Kinja

October 11, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

Really sad to see him leave. As long as there is not going to be a complete exodus of his scouts and assistants, Atlanta should do fine over the next few years. My concern is that Liberty Media is going to gut this team and send us back into the mid 80’s.

(shudders)

By ChitownMark

October 11, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

Sometimes we forget the guy is almost 70 years old. One of the all time greats and a certain hall of famer. Is there a way we can retire his number??

By Rex

October 11, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

Thanks John for great job! Frank Wren will do a great job, he has had great teachers,Fla,Baltm, and Atl. Go Braves.

By rebel

October 11, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

Remembering the sad 70’s & 80’s, I thank him for what he did for the Braves. From laughing stock to powerhouse…….Thanks John!

By bravesfan

October 11, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

Nothing good can come from this.

By rob

October 11, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

All great things must come to an end. John Schuerholz is the best GM in baseball. I can understand that 17 years are long enough at one job, but I hate to see him go. The trade for Texeira was a nice send off. Thanks for everything Mr. Schuerholz.

By Eric

October 11, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

He will be missed. Thanks John

By Scott

October 11, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

Basically, this sucks. The end of an era. He is leaving big shoes to fill.

By T-Bo

October 11, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

I think the braves will be just fine. Wren has been in the office for a while and certainly the “Braves” experience has to rub off on him somewhat. He knows what the Braves needs are and what needs to be done. Someone as professional as John Schuerholz would not even think of leaving the Braves without a very capable person to fill his shoes or without plans for the future. The Braves are in good hands. Now, Frank, go get us some pitchers, starting with Tommy Glavine and someone from Oakland’s stable of young hurlers! Then, try to lock up Texiera for another 6-7 years!

By BravesForever

October 11, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

I don’t know what happens now, Hopefully we don’t start allowing the thugs and selfish me first types in here, like so many other clubs have. John, thank you for the titles and professionalism and dignity you brought to Atlanta for all these years. Pay no attention to those who will post after me, and detract from what you’ve done by whining about only one championship. What you did in MLB will never be matched. Can’t wait to see you in the Hall Of Fame.

By Annan

October 11, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

Thanks for 17 teriffic years! But Frank Wren? Seriously? Let’s hope Albert Belle isn’t on the market…

By rebel

October 11, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Braves are already declining. Small budget, ageing stars…….John can’t face a total rebuild job with a limited budget.

By Lifelong Braves Fan

October 11, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

This is truly the end of an era. Schuerholz is by far the best MLB GM of all-time, and he will truly be missed in the Braves organization. Now let’s all just hope we don’t end up back in the basement again like they were before he came along in 1990. It’s a sad day to be a Braves fan. :(

By Aaron

October 11, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

Thanks for all the great teams over the years! You will be miss by Braves fans everywhere!

By Jeff

October 11, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

I have mixed reviews. Yes, Schuerholz has made the Braves a great organization. But with new owners, i hope this doesnt take a toll for the worst. Plus, Cox and JS always worked well together, so hopefully Cox wont follow behind.

By bwash21

October 11, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

I wish JS the best of luck and thanks for a great run in Atlanta. I think Wren will do a very good job as his replacement and I hope JS is the next commissioner of MLB. Time for Selig to step down!

By Lee

October 11, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i dont know what to make of this.

By Rooster

October 11, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

This could signal control problems with Liberty Media. They may cut pay roll and John doesn’t want to be the one to do it.

By Patrick

October 11, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

It’s a sad, sad day.

By Jeremy

October 11, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

JS has done a terrific job as Braves GM. He was instrumental in them becoming contenders in the early 90’s, and managed to keep the Braves near the top for the past 16 years. His baseball decision-making skills are second to none. My only concern is his replacement, but I will trust that the Braves have picked the best guy for the job.

Thanks for 17 wonderful years JS!!!

By Dan

October 11, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

I think we will be fine with Wren @ GM. Hats off to Mr. Schuerholz for an outstanding job running this organization. Go Braves in 2008!

By EJ

October 11, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Please take Bobby Cox with you. I’m so sick of “Bobby Ball”. Can we platoon Bobby Cox.

By KneeJerk

October 11, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

Thanks JS, you helped revive baseball in a great town. Frank Wren is a great choice to replace him.

By Lee

October 11, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

this sucks.

By /\/\/\/\Berigan/\/\/\/\

October 11, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

Man, am I shocked!!! Wrong guy is stepping down, IMHO, but perhaps he really is tired of the daily grind. All things considered, he did a hell of job, thanks John!!!

By Rev. Zoldars

October 11, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

I enjoy being censored. thanks ajc

By Frank

October 11, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

WOW. I didn’t see this coming. Schuerholz is a genius, and ran the Braves organization with class. With limited funding, he managed to consistently put together a winning team. I was looking forward to seeing what he would do with the extra (assumed) money from Liberty Media, since Time Warner kept him on a short leash financially. After the next few seasons past, I think Braves fans will understand the negative impact his departure will have on the organization.

By mike darwin

October 11, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

I need answers to two questions:

The answer to these questions will reveal if any of this is an acceptable change.

By JB

October 11, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

I’m just sad to see him go.

By yellowjax

October 11, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

I wouldn’t expect to see much change. Wren tutored under Schuerholz and seems to be just as capable of continuing the tradition.

Congrats Frank and good luck!

By mike darwin

October 11, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

I need answers to two questions:

The answer to these questions will reveal if any of this is an acceptable change.

By ssiscribe

October 11, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

Whenever somebody has held a position as demanding and pressurized as that of general manager of a professional sports team for 17 years, I don’t think you can react with surprise when that person finally leaves.

With that said, I’m surprised.

I really, really thought Schuerholz and Cox would leave together. At spring training last year, when Cox had his contract extended, Schuerholz said Cox was the only manager he wanted to work with, and the vice versa also was true.

Frank Wren is a good baseball man who will do a good job. He’s been here for seven seasons, so I don’t expect there to be a major difference in the way the franchise is run, as far as what the fans see.

Schuerholz spent nine seasons in KC before coming to Atlanta. He’s 67 years old. Maybe he’s tired. I know the organization is holding (or soon will hold) their 2008 planning meetings; best for John to go ahead now and do this before the talk about next season begins in earnest. I don’t imagine the new ownership has anything to do with this, as Terry McGwirk is still calling the shots for the day-to-day baseball operations, and has said repeatedly that Schuerholz and Cox are here as long as they want to be here.

Even though the Braves are maligned for only winning one World Series, you cannot discredit the job Schuerholz has done, especially with the fact the payroll has decreased the past few years. He’s made shrewd moves throughout his tenure that, for the most part, hit the mark (insert Adam Wainwright for J.D. Drew trade here as a point of reference of one that didn’t go right).

Greg Maddux. Fred McGriff. Mark Teixeira. Edgar Renteria. Tim Hudson. The list goes on and on. Most of the moves he made turned out well.

Above all else, Schuerholz helped to mold this franchise into a consistent winner, one that had a realistic chance to win a championship each and every year. To do that in the ever-difficult world of running a professional sports franchise these days is commendable.

God Bless, John, and thanks for 17 great years.

The Scribe abides.

—30—

By Uh oh

October 11, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

Back to the basement we go

By John B.

October 11, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the good times, JS. We’ll miss ya.

By Mark

October 11, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

We knew this was going to happen when he traded the farm for Texeria

By Bo Broadwell

October 11, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

Why? This is a big shock for me! I never knew that this was something that he was doing until next year at the earliest? I hope this doesn’t hurt us? I have been through all of the Braves highs and lows. This is definately a huge low.

By Braves Fan, Schuerholz Fan

October 11, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

Mr. Schuerholz,

Thank you so very much for what you have done for professional baseball here in Atlanta.

Beyond merely winning baseball games, you have helped unite us all, regardless of social or lifestyle differences, in a collective LOVE of THE GAME.

You, sir, are THE pinnacle of your profession.

Forever grateful,

A Fan

_

By Grady Little

October 11, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

I hope he takes the grouchy old coot managing the team with him. I just heard Kincaid from 680 the Fan describe Bobby Cox as “beloved” and “first class.”

I guess that guy doesn’t read many message boards or get out of the studio much. Cox might be one of the more miserable people in baseball—a real pain to deal with in trying to get an honest quote.

Joe Torre is the polar opposite..straight forward, good natured and classy.

Good luck to Schuerholz. I think he is a pretty decent guy as well. Maybe he and Torre can team up somewhere.

By amr

October 11, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

first?

By Michael Marcinkus

October 11, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

It is always hard for an outsider to know how talented an assistant is, but many good things have been spoken of Frank Wren, so hopefully Schuerholz’s departure will not impact Atlanta’s ability to draft well and make the correct mid-season trade.

I would like to think that the club as a whole had something to do with it and that Schuerholz simply excelled at delegating and making the ultimate decisions. If Wren can follow suit, the more important issue will be how much money ownership is willing to cough up for players than WHO those players are.

Link: The Commish Online

By Ryder

October 11, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Wren does have experience, but it won’t be the same with Schuerholz at the controls. I would just like to say thanks to baseball’s best GM over the past two decades and for all of his excellent working into building the Atlanta Braves into a winner!

By TennesseePaul

October 11, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Thank you John Schuerholz

This team wouldn’t be the team it is without you. Thank you for all the many years of service and good memories.

GO BRAVES!!!

By don

October 11, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Good. Too bad he didn’t do so after last season.

By Fred

October 11, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

Say it ain’t so! He must not have the 2008 budget he had hoped for. Good luck Mr. Wren, it’s never easy replacing a legend.

By Overlord

October 11, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

I think we are zkrewed.

Whats the reason for this? I dont think this positive for us.

Did John see something he didnt like on new owners?

By A Real Fan

October 11, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this

What if he is moving up to Braves President?

By HW

October 11, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

John:

Come to St Louis, Please

By Rich

October 11, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

I wish I could step down from my job.

By #2 braves fan

October 11, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

Hasn’t anyone read the story by DOB about JS becoming the Braves new prez? Why would this be a bad thing?

By Jeff

October 11, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

Js is almost 70 years olds. He has decided that its time to let the young guy run the team. Plus JS is staying on as team President.

By don

October 11, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

It has been reported that he is being courted by the Cardinals and that he has some interest. Remember, he resigned. He did not retire.

Regardless, I’m still happey he will be gone. It was just a year too late.

By jason J.

October 11, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

He’s becoming Team President! It’s actually a promotion. He’ll still be involved with the team! That makes me feel alot better about things!

By Greg

October 11, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Before Schuerholz left KC, he decimated their farm system with ill advised trades that were short term in thinking. Time will tell if the Texeira trade falls into that category.

Schuerholz was a master of the trade, but he was absolutely lousy at luring Free Agents to Atlanta, and couldn’t seem to compensate for the fact that modern athletes need to be wooed. His stand was principled but ultimately self defeating. Ask Tom Glavine.

Hopefully Wren has learned something from all this.

By swhite

October 11, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

GREATEST GM THIS TOWN HAS EVER SEEN! CONSISTENTLY MADE GREAT MOVES TO PUT THEM IN POSITIONS TO WIN IN ALL…EVEN WITH THE BUDGET RESTRAINTS. FANTASTIC JOB JS!

By Thanks!

October 11, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

JS did a spectacular job in Atlanta particularly given the corporate restrictions. He always put Cox in a position to be successful even though Cox could rarely take advantage of it. JS’s biggest blunders were not firing Cox after the 99’ season and his statement in the early 00’s that the goal of the team was to win the division. JS will certainly be missed.

By War Eagle

October 11, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

ok knuckleheads-listen up: Schueerholtz is remaing as Pres. which is less stressful than GM because at 67-he does not have to make strenuous decisions on dealing players. Second, No team in their right mind, would deal with Scott Boras and his 100 million dollar leeches. Boras wants to line his own pockets, I think, and Bleed the organization dry. Remember-Maddux once made more than the entire Pirates Line up! So why spend 20% of your salary on ONE player? DOes not make sense. They need a cap in baseball to curb these hungry SOB players and agents. NO One, not even Andruw or A rod or Jose or Qantavious-is worth 100 Million doallrs. And when are you fans going to demand an end to high ticket prices that cause you to default on your mortgage just to see 4 games with four people? Unless you want to sit in the nose bleed section. That is why attendance is down. These stupid sports talk people like Kincaide-oh no fan support-come out and support your team. WE don’t get FREE tickets like you Kincaide! Falcons tickets cost 3-4 times more now than they did 10 yrs ago-inflation did not go up that much! But it is the greedy players and agents that do it. and owners first go to the media for it and when they say NO! then we the fans get it up the wazoo!For $100 a ticket at the Basketbrawl games, we ought to demand the right to throw beer at the players. Back to baseball-Braves need to bring up the AA team unless AAA is ready. the Braves have a bunch of has beens and never was’s and they need to clean house now. Chipper should be on a commissionplan the way he is out every other month-or retire. Bull pen couldn’t find home plate with a Google Map and the hitters couldn’t hit a beach ball. JS jsut ran out of miracles. And KC was not stocked with any for him to choose from.

By Joe Fan

October 11, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

I must say, we knew that was coming someday, but not so soon. This does have me troubled as to maybe what Liberty does have in mind for the team.

By ScoobySnacks

October 11, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

It’s being billed as a promotion. Does that mean he can have an affect on the budget? Does this mean we might be able to squeeze Andruw in? It’s not over until its over. Still hoping!

By TennesseePaul

October 11, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

New President… Where does that leave Terry McGuirk?

By DAC

October 11, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

PLEASE TAKE BOBBY WITH YOU

By chipdip

October 11, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

EL PRESIDENTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Diogenes

October 11, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

To Arthur Blank — time to dump the Falcons (come on, no one can work THOSE kinds of miracles), and buy the Braves.

Also, please notify the Braves that I am ready to interview for JS’s position, whenever it might be convenient for them. Assuming you let me match the Yankee’s payroll, I’ll have us playing in October again in no time. :o)

By Lou Vales

October 11, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

I’m so tired of recapitulating this, but someone has to do it.

Since 1958 the Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves have won ONE!!!!!! Count Them(Or It!!) ONE!!!!!!!!! World Series. And I hate to say it but World Series Championships should be the ultimate arbiter as to GREATNESS(Too sadly tossed around). Now I realize JS hasn’t been around all 50 years, but he has been around for about 30& of them and most of those years he had more money to spend than division rivals and he parlayed that advantage and the presence of the 3 Hall of Fame pitchers for a significant period of time into ONE LESS!!!!!!!!! World Series Title than the pitiful, penniless, stadiumless, fanless, near ownerless Florida Marlins have won in the last 11 years.

Yep, Be really proud of those Eastern Division Banners all strung in a row and when you are not congratulating yourself on that FEAT stop and consider how difficult it is to have conveyed a payroll, broadcasting rights, talent and supposedly farm system and management advantage into ONE MORE World Series Championship than the Montreal Expos/WashingtonNats and one less than the Miserable Florida Marlins.

JS has ONE LESS World Series ring than Jeff Conine—-How sad is that???

By TomahawkSlinginInDC

October 11, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Well first congrats to JS, a promotion is wonderful but I’m worried about the new GM’s negotiation skills and scouting abilities- VERY worries, he always seems to make the right moves for the Braves the most recent one in not resigning A Jones included. Even when he doesnt make good picks (i.e. Wickman) he has a away of compensating for it elsewhere.

By Ray

October 11, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

DOB, What is your take on why? Obviously its sudden from the public standpoint but it was not sudden internally. He would not be moved to President unless there were extensive talks for some time. What is your opinion on both JS moving and Wren’s ability?

By Summerteeth

October 11, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

Sad day but I have faith Wren can step up…not like the GM plays on the field…

By ssiscribe

October 11, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Now, count me among those interested to see what role the “president” has in the front office.

Is it truly a promotion?

Is this a front office realignment by the new ownership?

Is it a chance for Schuerholz to stay active without handling the day-to-day stuff that Wren’s taking over (and has taken over some, given his role in contract negotiations, etc.)?

Like McGuirk said, he’ll have lots to say at 3:30 p.m.

Stay tuned.

The Scribe abides.

—30—

By Gene

October 11, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

He deserves a parade. No joke. He’s dealth with more frustrations and heartache than any other Braves fan. Maybe he should run for mayor!

By ATLbravo

October 11, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Can Bobby leave too? That should be Wren’s first move

By cooper

October 11, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

JS is being promoted to President to right now McGuirk is the odd man out. We will know more at 3:30pm today.

That said if the budget was doing a nose dive and the team was going to be reeling I doubt JS would just move to the President spot he would probably bail entirely.

Anyway you are not losing JS he is just getting out of the day to day talent management/recruiting stuff.

Question is how will Wren do as a deal maker?

By Najeh Davenpoop

October 11, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

If only the Falcons and Hawks could find a guy as smart as Schuerholz, maybe they could turn around their future as well. It’s too bad he’s no longer the GM, but seasons change, mad things rearrange. Good move to promote a guy from within the organization who knows how things work — hopefully the way the Braves are run won’t change around too much.

By Rohan

October 11, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

I am also crying. He is greatest GM ever. He is becoming president. I dont understand if he is stepping down to become president, as in he was “promoted”. Or that he is stepping down under pressure and given the president’s position as a concession.

By Champ

October 11, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

Guys, he’s now the Club President. He got PROMOTED. He’s not going anywhere. Yeah he’s the best GM in baseball history, and will be known as the best ever, but now he overrides everything. He is in control of Braves baseball. Wren has been with the Braves long enough and under Schuerholz’ wing long enough, he is gonna be a nice replacement. Thanks for the great years, President Schuerholz.

By Question?

October 11, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

What is the difference between GM and PRESIDENT? Is the GM more of a day to day guy and the PREZ a once a week guy? Please answer if u know….

By Rooster

October 11, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

I still think the payroll that was promised to increase is not going anywhere.. Someone needs to tell Liberty Media that we are only two pitchers away from being a World Series contender. The offense will be fine without Andrew. You take someone who hits .280 and replace him then everything will be fine. If he hit .280 last year we probably have 10 more wins and 50 more runs. Glad to know John got a promotion he still will have hands in everyday GM work.

By mike darwin

October 11, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

I need answers to two questions:

The answer to these questions will reveal if any of this is an acceptable change.

By Brad in MT

October 11, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

I wish JS all the best…He is a classy guy who did a lot for this organization and will be truly missed. I think that Frank Wren will do a good job, but JS is one of a kind. I am curious to see what is said at the press conference, but I truly hope that he is leaving because its time, not because he’s upset w/ ownership or was forced out or anything like that. I really don’t think thats the case, but I guess you never know. I tend to believe it was a personal decision…

By John Adcox

October 11, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

Shocked. Stunned. Disbelief.

But not so much that I can’t pause to salute a job well done, and to express sincere best wishes.

Godspeed.

By Bob Montag

October 11, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

John is moving up to President of Braves….thats all folks! His presents will still be there. Maybe Wren will not resign old players and get some new blood. Move Cox to funny farm and get Joe Girardi.

By TooBad

October 11, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

It’s official, Atlanta doesn’t have any good teams now. We are officially the worst sports city in America. The Thrashers are our only hope.

By garry

October 11, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Statement was that he was being “Promoted” to Team President.

If it looks like a fish, smells like a fish, swims like a fish…chances are it is a FISH…I long for the days of Ted Turner’s willingness to spend along with the hated Yankees.

The Yankess can’t win with their huge payroll. The Braves only won one World Series (thanks to Booby Cocks) but they were there every year.

By morris

October 11, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Arthur Blank has completely destroyed the falcons so why would anyone want him to buy the braves? He fired a hall of fame coach and only guy to ever lead the sorry falcons to a superbowl and replaced him with an idiot. Now he has replaced the idiot with an overmatched college coach and hired a GM that wouldn’t know talent if it flew up and hit him in the face. I’ll take my chances with just about anyone else when Liberty is ready to sale!

By Lee

October 11, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

John please leave you secret recipe for the next guy in the kitchen.. Arthur…you need to make the change..Mckay’s gotta go…rotten…awful…been fooling you too long…fire him already!

By Doug

October 11, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

This is just shuffling of chairs and not the real change the Braves need. Bobby Cox has had a great run, but that run is drawing to a close. Is Joe Torre available yet?

By Ihatebaseball

October 11, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

What happened to baseball? It used to be a great sport, the players now either don’t speak english or are popping more steroids and HGH than the time Chris Benoit, Ken Camineti, and Marion Jones had a slumber party. SO far I have not watched a second of the post season and I hope it remains that way.

By Jeffrey

October 11, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

This is simply part of the Braves transitioning to the next generation. We have already seen this with the announcers, some with the players, and now the management. We will be seeing a lot of this for the next couple of years.

Thanks JS for all you have done. I am sure you will still be around to make sure things are done correctly. This will give you a bit more free time. Better to make these changes in a phase mode than all at once.

By Muhammed

October 11, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

NOW GET RID OF MGWERK!

He is the WEAK LINK!!!!!!!!

Collecting a paycheck … for WHAT??????

By Bill

October 11, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Arthur…please pay attention…Richie rich needs to go…He’s way oversold and under delivers…

Articulate..true…but that’s it… we need someone who can pick the best talent and draft/sign them.

By Scott

October 11, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

There is something wrong with you people who keep bashing Bobby. Do you people even know anything about baseball? Bobby is one of the top 5 managers ever and players love to play for him. Even those who do not get the chance to play for Bobby are not shy to say they wish they could have. Be happy the Braves organization has Bobby and has not had to change managers every 3-4 years.

By Stew

October 11, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

John will still be a part of the Brave organization. He’s done a lot of good for the organization, especially with the farm system in particular. However, one of his biggest misques was to keep Chipper Jones. We should have let him go 4 years ago to get more quality picthing. One of the main reasons we’re struggilng now is b/c of the large Hampton contract (who is still on payroll) and Chipper has been a Brave too long……and I’m gone! Alright! Alright! Alright!

By KneeJerk

October 11, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

All of you moronic Bobby bashers: How many playoff games did the “great” Joe Torre win without Daddy Warbucks and his huge wallet????????????????????????

By Tom Glavine

October 11, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

Hey JS, don’t let the door hit you in the arse on the way out! - Now who where do I go to sign back up with the Braves?

By Greg in TN

October 11, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

Afternoon gang,

Busy day on Planet Braves today. Ahead of the 3:30 press conference there will be some speculation going on, which is only natural, here’s my take.

I believe this is a best case scenario for the team and their fans. I was thinking the likely scenario would have been to have JS and BC ride off into the sunset at some point after next season or the season after.

Now that JS is movin’ on up, I think this keeps him engaged with the team for several years after that barring any unforeseen health issues.

I believe we are going to be fine with Frank Wren as GM. He’s held that position before as GM of the Orioles for one season in 1999 and with Angelos as the owner there, I think that’s one of the tougher GM jobs in baseball after Brian Cashman’s seat in the Bronx. Wren has been assistant GM here since 2000 and before his stint with the Orioles, he was assistant GM for the Marlins from 93 to 98, including their WS title run in 97. Prior to that, he was assistant director of scouting for the Expos from 1987 to 1990. That part is key to me, because the Expos of the early nineties was a pipeline of talent for MLB (remember Vlad, Marquis Grissom, Delino DeShields, Cliff Floyd, Larry Walker and all those Expos that made a splash under Felipe Alou’s tutelage was a direct result of that Montreal farm system).

Not sure what Terry McGuirk’s role will be with the team going forward since JS is now the president. I would assume that he will remain in place as chairman, with JS taking over as president and Wren doing the day to day GM role, however to me, this is encouraging news. Not sure that this is something Liberty orchestrated, to me I think it’s something McGuirk and JS has worked out with Liberty’s blessings.

By Me

October 11, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

My thoughts…

Thanks for McGriff…

Thanks for Tex…

Bye…

By Kramer

October 11, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

First TBS drops the Braves and now this. IT’S TOO MUCH JERRY! IT’S TOO MUCH!

By Jon B

October 11, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!! Doesnt anyone read anything in its entirety? It said he is resigning as GM, but will be president of the team. GOOD GOD PEOPLE!! He will more than likely still have veto power over anything that Wren tries to do that JS thinks is stupid. If anything, this might help the team even more, in the money area because JS will have more pull now than he did before.

Come on people, get a grip!

By Hubert

October 11, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Who cares?

By Brent

October 11, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

Everyone please calm down. JS isn’t going anywhere. Yeah, he’s stepping down as GM, but the reason he’s not the GM any longer is because he was promoted to President. JS is still a part of the Braves organization. Oh, the part no one is saying, Frank Wren was the one who has been doing the GM work the past year. Wren was responsible for bringing Tex to the Braves. We are in great hands.

By KneeJerk

October 11, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

What MLB team has had the highest payroll the last 7 years and has failed to win a WS in that time? It’s the Yankees. Why are Braves fans wanting the manager of that failing team to come here and replace one of OUR OWN? And you talk about Bobby’s postseason shortcomings????????????

By Plate Appearance

October 11, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

A SAD DAY

It’s a sad day to hear that John is resigning as the Braves GM!

Though many were involved in bringing it to pass, JS was indeed the primary architect of that sterling 14 year run.

Thanks John for the many great and faithful years of service to the Braves organization and we fans!!

By Gary

October 11, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Whew, I was really concerned until I read the update that he is not leaving, just moving up to Pres. As long as he is still involved in personnel decisions, and we keep the front office team and Cox, the Braves will be fine. Maybe he can squeeze some more $$$ from the owners for payroll in his new position. Let’s go shopping for some starters!

By JS

October 11, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

Question The GM is the guy the President blames when the team doesn’t make the playoffs even though they don’t have 3 HOF pitchers anymore and have an aging HOF 3rd baseman.

Now do you get my move? Shhhhhhhh. Our little secret.

By rob

October 11, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

Im a Mets fan….thank GOD….he built a winner, now someone else can take he blame for downfall….

LETS GO METS!!!…(yeah, i know, Phillies fans…bite me!)

By JEB

October 11, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

THANK YOU JOHN S.!!!!!!!!!! YOU’RE THE BEST!!!! Everyone —- READ the WHOLE story!! JS is promoted to be the President of the Braves!! He is NOT going anywhere, there is no schism, problem with Liberty, etc.. He is staying and working alongside of Frank Wrenn! He has had hands on training of Frank and the transition will continue under the master mind of JS! This will (I’m sure) allow JS to slip into the retirement mode rather than the abrupt change and still have his hands on the team! GREAT way to do business! Another genious move by JS!!

By Ray

October 11, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

With JS moving to President, what does that do with Terry McGirk? Are the baseball people still McGirk, then JS and Wren in the pecking order?

By flange1

October 11, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

This is a sad day in Bravesville. Our fearless leader is being promoted. Thanks John S. for your incredible leadership. You have given the City of Atlanta a team to be proud of, in fact you have put Atlanta on the sports map.

Good luck to Frank Wrenn as the new GM. If his first year can be as good as Dayton’s, we will be very happy.

Both were taught well by the master.

How about a World Series visit in 2008?

By Gayle Abbott

October 11, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

I have nothing bad to say about JS except that most of his good deeds are far in the past. Maddux and McGriff were 15 years ago. It has been a commendable job to field a competitive team over such a long period of time, but with the exception of one year - 12 years ago - he never built a championship team.

The problem in this town is that mediocre is fine as long as it doesn’t cost too much money. Absent is the hunger and desire for the championships that you feel in New York and Boston.

JS let Smoltz dictate his terms and come out of the bullpen to start and the team has been going downhill ever since. Just consider how many players have the Braves’ lost in the vain search for a new closer?

This team is the National League version of the Yankees, albeit with a much smaller payroll. Old, slow and with a few veterans (some that play and some who don’t) taking up the lion’s share of the payroll.

Take a look at the DBacks and Rockies as models of teams that aren’t afraid to withstand a few bad seasons in an effort to build a true winner. And they’re a lot more fun to watch than Andruw corkscrewing himself into the ground swinging for the fences. At least we will be spared that sight next year.

Best of luck, JS. Please take Bobby with you.

By Mr Davis

October 11, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

So that’s how it works, this idiot trades David Justice, Fred McGriff and now the greatest center fielder to ever play the game (andruw Jones) and gets promoted to president? The braves will never win another world series. They sign good ole boy Chipper Jones to a lifetime contract and all he does is stay hurt during stretch runs. I hope Andruw lands with the Mets or Yankees and come back and haunt the Braves from now on!!!

By Bryan

October 11, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

yeah, i think a lot of people are freaking out … he is still the team prez and the person taking over has been around for 7 years… this will be a good way to shake up some relationships … there are a lot of agents who don’t like working with JS… also, because it’s a new GM they can fudge on the no trade clause without p** off the other people on the team.

By fes

October 11, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this

while i agree that he did great things for the orginazation, he rarely did enough. there were too many years of making it and collapsing and most recently, not making it to the postseason two consecutive seasons. his time has been up and it’s about time that he stepped aside. he should have never let glavine leave town and maybe we wouldn’t be in this predicament.

By Dave

October 11, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

I agree with the person who said they should kick Bobby Cox back upstairs to GM; and then, they should make a play for Joe Torre to return to Atlanta. He can fire these guys up and take them to the postseason again.

By beachcomber

October 11, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

There’s more to this than meets the eye. My Braves mole won’t be available for another hour or two - if I learn anything I’ll check back in.

By nolzfaninbamacountry

October 11, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

any media coverage for the press conference…Fox sports, sportsouth perhaps…. I live in Alabama…….

By DAP

October 11, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

lou vales your post is full of errors.

if JS is moving to president, where is the president going?

By tim

October 11, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

i hope this is for personal reasons and not because liberty has his hands tied on payroll and moves

By BossLady

October 11, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

Where is DOB when we need him? What is going on?

By Cat

October 11, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

Way to many of you didn’t read very carefully. It took way to long before someone realized he is not really leaving.

By Braves DieHard

October 11, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

We are losing one of the greatest GMs of all time; with that said, however, I am a little disappointed that we don’t shake the whole organization up if there is a change at the top. I had visions of Jockety/LaRusso in the Ted. I hope Wren is up to it, but I fear that he is just an affordable alternative fot Liberty.

ESPN Radio is playing it as a forced exodus- is this true?

By BigD

October 11, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

Our ship is sinking fast. This came out of no where. Has to be some bad blood between Liberty and John. He and Bobby were supposed to retire together!

By chipdip

October 11, 2007 2:10 PM | Link to this

ESPN…3:30 PM.OR ESPN2….

By Jon B

October 11, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!! Doesnt anyone read anything in its entirety? It said he is resigning as GM, but will be president of the team. GOOD GOD PEOPLE!! He will more than likely still have veto power over anything that Wren tries to do that JS thinks is stupid. If anything, this might help the team even more, in the money area because JS will have more pull now than he did before.

Come on people, get a grip!

By Rod

October 11, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

It’s a sad day. JS was the best. However, he is taking over as the team President, and will still be there to help Frank Wren. I think we’re gonna be ok.

By Arthur Blank ---> Poster Child for Incompetent Sports Ownership

October 11, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

Arthur Blank would ruin the BRAVES the way that incompetent, clueless, small-minded, two-faced, dishonest simpleton has ruined the FALCONS.

THE ATLANTA FALCONS: The ‘HOME DEPOT’ of the NFL

(That ‘AIN’T’ a compliment.)

By ssiscribe

October 11, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

Jon B: With all due respect, for the first hour this story was out, it said nothing about Schuerholz staying with the team as president. I think you’re seeing some reaction from people who just heard that part of the news, and the headline saying he stepped down, as opposed to him moving into the position of president (which I’m still curious as to what that entails).

Guess we’ll all find out starting in about 75 minutes or so.

—30—

By Gayle Abbott

October 11, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

Knee Jerk - I am not a Yankees fan, but I must say that when it comes to the Post Season, Cox has proven himself to be one of the worst managers ever.

And this is not a subjective argument. Just look at the record. Torre has 4 World Series titles to Bobby’s 1.

In this great run of 14 consecutive division championships, the Florida Marlins have twice as many World titles. And did Florida have the huge Yankee bankroll? Not even close.

I’m not coveting Torre, I am just so tired of the fans in this town being satisfied with one lousy championship out of 14 tries. We defintely should have won in ‘91 and ‘96. Had Bobby won those two, then you could mention him and Torre in the same sentence. But until he does catch up, Bobby is an also-ran, a lousy post season manager and the record backs it up - no matter how big your payroll is.

By Blake

October 11, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

Holy crap.. we’re done man. First Ted sells and now this.. If Terry P. doesn’t take over when Bobby leaves I’ll have to start watching the Astros.

By Bill

October 11, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

OK Students, Here is a primer on organizational charts:

JS will now be in a better position to help the Braves. He has a direct link to the Board and an advisory position with line management. As GM he had to get approval from the President before he could make deals. I see this as a positive step by Liberty.

By journalist jimmy smith, guest from another blog

October 11, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

oh, the embarrassment! leaving. not leaving. promoted? moved aside? white horse souses say js will remain as president but with no stick to wave. up to four sources by now. anonymous sources. oh, the humanity! this journalism is hard business. and will someone please fix the dob blog? didn’t pay the bill?

By John in Tampa, FLA

October 11, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

So is this a promotion for JS? If so then what has changed? If everyone moves up one notch you are still in the same pecking order.

If it is a demotion it is an abomination and an explanation is due.

By Jon B = Worthless

October 11, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

Dear Jon B,

Please kill yourself. You are worthless.

-

The AJC’s O-R-I-G-I-N-A-L version of this breaking story made no reference whatsoever to the role of “Team President,” only the subsequent updates mentioned that piece of information.

Let us all THINK before we type.

By Kelvin

October 11, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Who is Frank Wren?

By BUSHWACKER

October 11, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

Congrats J.S. and seriously thanks for making the Braves not only a great franchise on and off the field, but more importantly a RESPECTED ORGANIZATION! Now let’s move on, Sign A Rod, put him at short, move Renteria to 2nd, put Kelly Johnson in right, move Francouerto center and we win the next 5 World Series.

I think Atlanta is gotta be where A Rod wants to be, playing for Bobby Cox might be where he can produce in the playoffs!.

What the heck, get him and Glavine and let’s enjoy kickin a_ _.

By BUSHWACKER

October 11, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

WE DO NOT NEED ARTHUR BLANK TO BUY THE BRAVES!!!!

By COACH K

October 11, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this

you folks are the most clueless people on the planet, js is now President of this team far more power than GM He now has more say so with Liberty to get things done. You folks sound like the team just moved this is a great freaking move for the Braves, now go sign Glavine

By BUSHWACKER

October 11, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

Or, since they are clearly the 2 best managers in baseball and deserve to mgmt somewhere as long as they want to keep doing it,maybe it would do both franchises some good just to shale things up a little,

the Braves and Yankees should swap managers.

Don’t laugh, they are very similar guys, players love to play for these guys, and Bobby actually palyed for the Yankees and Torre played for the Braves.

Why not, I don’t think anyone in either city would have a problem with it?

By Matthew

October 11, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

As long as we have Chipper Jones, Jeff Francaur, Brian McCann, Texeiria, and other Braves Players, we will do good. I say they need to invest in some good pitchers. I say it is sad to see the GM Go. My dad told me Shcuerholz was a good GM. That GM had let Bobby manage his team. I hope we get any GM but Steinbreener. That would be interested if Arther Blanc invested in the team.

By Jeffrey

October 11, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

From mlb.com: The Braves Braves Front Office Directory:

Terry McGuirk - President and Chairman

John Schuerholz - Executive Vice President and General Manager

Mike Plant - Executive Vice President of Business Operations

Derek Schiller - Senior Vice President of Sales and Marketing

William C. Bartholomay - Chairman Emeritus

I was not aware that JS was already a VP. H moves up to President while McGuirk will continue as chairman is my guess.

By BUSHWACKER

October 11, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

Oh yea, signing A-Rod means Atlanta gets to watch him break, I mean pass Barry Bonds and become the Home Run King. I said pass Barry because he IS NOT THE HR KING, therefore its not his record for A-ROD to break.

Hank and Atlanta deserve to watch the next Home Run Champion do it in an Atlanta uniform.

By KC

October 11, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

HORRIBLE NEWS!!!! That’s no reflection on Frank Wren. It’s just that from Schuerholz, there’s really no place to go but down. He was the best in the business.

On a positive note… I’m sure Frank Wren is very capable, or he would not have been granted this role. He’s also been assistant GM for a while, so he should carry many of the lessons learned from his time under Schuerholz into the job, in addition to his own strengths an talents.

By bye

October 11, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

good GM but did not keep black stars . Bye another redneck with a new job!

By Russ

October 11, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Thanks for all the great teams, John. You’ve won with style and grace, and I really appreciate your time with Atlanta. Best wishes in your new role!

By kreedham

October 11, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Get Joe Torre as Asst GM/Major League Scout until 2009 then plug him in for Bobby. That is if Steinbrenner fires him..

By Lane Tucker

October 11, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

it is not 14 straight

the Braves did not win in 1994

and 14 Divisional titles means nothing in the wild card era

only one world series win is a disgrace

Schuerholz probably should have fired Bobby Cox after the 1993 choke and definitely after the 1996 choke

By Ramblin Gamblin Wreck

October 11, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

As a native Atlantan (shopped at Rich’s, drank Coca Cola, flew Delta) and a career naval officer, I have always follwed the Braves since April 1966 while I have been stationed around the world. It was JS’s arrival that made all of those years of losing worth it in the 90s and 2000s. Is it coincidence that we lose the Braves on national cable, lose JS, initiate a dynasty of 3rd place finishes at about the time that Liberty Media assumes ownership?

Those days with Ted Turner were, at times, weird, but he brought John Schuerholz and repositioned Bobby Cox at the helm of an otherwise dismal franchise and we were resurrected from “Loserville.”

John, fair winds and following seas. I just hope you do not go too far that Frank cannot hear your wise counsel.

By Tami

October 11, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Well, it’s as they say: ALL GOOD THINGS MUST COME TO AN END.

If I could, I’d thank John for his long tenure as the Braves’ GM. We’ll treasure the memories.

By DAP

October 11, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Lane Tucker so who won it in ‘94? thats right, NOONE! thats why its straight, doofus. 14 divisional titles means alot in any era, and anyone whos not brain dead knows it means that the braves DOMINATED the national league for a long time.

ive always thought that it was a shame the braves only won 1 world title, but i am very happy about the 5 NL titles they won.

By Ramblin Gamblin Wreck

October 11, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

For those who decry John Schuerholz’s record of achievement becuase we only attained one world champioship, I believe that the playoffs are won by those players on the field, not the GM. He collects the members of the team to get them into the position to win it all.

Also, consider the state of the Kansas City Royals. They were a blooming power in the George Brett days. However, what has happend to them since John Schuerholz left? Keep in mind that, aside from Ted Turner’s millions (billion?) Atlanta can also be considered a “mid-market” team without the budget to compete against the Yankees, etc. Sending Andrew on his way reminds me of other lesser teams (Twins, etc.) who cut loose their farmed products once they reach high dollar potential. Only John Schuerholz’s intuitive talent insight kept us in the game. We can only hope that his counsel, evaluation, and negotiating skills will be effectively passed on to his successor like the Coleone father/son team.

I don’t know if Joe Torre would be a good GM or, even if he would be interested in following Bobby, but I sure enjoyed his catching in 66 - 67 and his 13 game streak in 82.

By Joshhh

October 11, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

I feel like we’re falling apart…

By jcfromindy

October 11, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

The Braves Suck! My question is when is Bobby Cox Retiring so that the Braves can start winning. If he doesn’t they’ll be just like the Falcons! Go Colts!

smootches!

By Stew

October 11, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Sad year for the city of Atlanta sports. First MV7, now JS. What’s next? My guess is Coach Woody remains with the Hawks the entire season. Same ole sorry sports town.

By benjy

October 11, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

were gonna be fine he is gonna be pres. drink a beer tonite to schuerholz the greatest GM EVER!!!!

By Eric From Albany Ny

October 11, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

This Is A Great Era In Atlanta! Things Could Have Gone Real Bad In The Last Few Months With The Sale Of The Team, But Instead…

Payroll Is Going Up! Attendance Is Up! Our New Owners Have An Open Mind! Our Friends Have Been Promoted! And This Off Season We Only Have A Couple Issues In Starting Pitching, And A Bit OF A Gap Between Right And Left Field.

With John Becoming President And Replacing Himself Like He Replaces Any Position In The Orginization, Straight From The Farm System. Wren Knows How To Do Johns Job Because He Has Had His Hand In It For The Last Few Years And Has Worked So Close To It For So Long.

Another Pluss Is That Cox Will Stay As Long As He Wants A Job!

And The Biggest Pluss Is The Fact That When Trying To Get More Tallent We Not Only Still Have The Big Names In The office And On The Bench (cox) We Still Have Their Brains!

More Then Likely John Will Now Use His Tallents To Help Get More Money From Liberty, And Who Knows What Else!

By NCBravesFan

October 11, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

First Time Warner steals the team from Turner and funds it like a cheap discount store, then chips away the games from national viewership until the Braves are off TBS completely! Then they cut payroll, run off the heart and soul of the team while laying waste to our minor league system and treat our game announcers on TV and radio like second class citizens! The team is then swapped for tax credits to an out-of-state corporation that uses it to balance their books and now JS is so fed-up with this is,he is forced to leave for,(I believe) his sanity! This is the beginning of the NEW DARK AGES! My team is NO MORE! Oh the Humanity Of It All!!

By Bravesfan4life

October 11, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Liberty is not into winning. They want money and tax write-offs. Who is really running the show? MKirk? I hope not! If so… the Braves are akin to the SS Titanic.

By Adam

October 11, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

I really hate to see JS go… But, I think it’s pretty clear now who will be taking over for Selig in ‘09. Good luck JS - thanks for giving Atlanta a winning franchise!

(I don’t know about Frank Wren though - remember he made Albert Belle the highest paid player in baseball in ‘99 - let’s hope he’s learned something under JS).

By Double Deuce

October 11, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

The underlying question here is why so sudden? This is a guy who just recently talked about his enthusiasm for his job, the future of the Braves and his love of baseball. More to come I’m sure. Scary.

By Patrick Henry

October 11, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Give me death before you give me Liberty!

In recognition of the New Braves ownership, players will be equipped with 1970’s uniforms. All part of the new media campaign to make a trip to the ballpark more nostalgic. Remember the good ole days, when 75 wins was almost attainable? Yeah, were going to have Darrell Cheney and Biff Pocoroba nights. Hammerin Hank will make a comeback to reclaim his HR title. The good news is that you’ll now be able to get good seats. We are a write off of epic proportions now folks!!

By steve

October 11, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Some of you folks are overreacting. He is not leaving the team. He is changing responsibilities. The new GM, who has been mentored by JS, will be reporting to him. JS has hinted for a couple of years that his time as GM would be coming to an end soon.

I agree that he has been the best GM in baseball over the years. It is not just the great deals he has made (he had made some duds too!). JS helped enrich a farm system that is one of the tops in baseball. He also has set a pattern of professionalism that many teams lack.

Thank you JS, for all you have done and will continue to do for the Braves!

By Think about this

October 11, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

Guys, quit demanding Joe Torre. First, he has not been fired yet, so he isn’t even technically available. Second, we need pitching- no manager, no matter how talented, could win with our starting pitching, so why waste money on a manager and not a pitcher. Third, Bobby Cox is only a Hall of Fame manager, why shouldn’t we demand more? Sure the fans may not all love him, but players love to play for him, which means they play hard for him. If you aren’t in the clubhouse and dugout everyday, I don’t think you can decide if he is doing a good or bad job.

By Choppinmama

October 11, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

journalistjj: Holy breaking news day, and no DOB blog on which to blog!!

Looks like everyone is using this impersonal, corporate The Atlanta Journal -bylined site.

Kinda funny to read all the folks’ fond farewells to JS. If that isn’t a sign that the Braves and Liberty are dead serious about the next run, my tea leaves are mistaken.

Hail hail President Schuerholz!!

By richie

October 11, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

JS is the new team prseident. He didnt leave the organization. He says he will still be consulted on some moves. This is not the end, it is the beginning. We have a younger core and you need a younger person to deal aggressively with these other GMs and agents. I will hold out on judgement with Wren.

By roan st

October 11, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Just watched the press conference and shuerholz stated that he will be with the braves at least four more years as team president. His office will be down the hall from wrens and he will ultimately approve all baseball moves. Although he is downplaying his role and saying wren is now responsible for all baseball matters shuerholz will still sign off on those decisions. If this is the case then the braves will be in good hands for years to come. I would also like to point out that mcguirk(sp?) said emphatically that payroll would increase next year and not decrease. However, he would not reveal a number but only say that the braves would definately make some offseason moves.

By gdubber

October 11, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Cox and JS have done more for the Braves than any other duo in history, including Spahn and Sain and Aaron and Matthews. They’ll be missed. Many good pieces in place but pitchers are needed. Not one or two, we need a staff. Good luck JS. Help Frank find the money for some pitching.

By Excelsior!

October 11, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

Same sh\t, different day. Schuerholz is still running the team, just getting an even bigger paycheck.

Things aren’t going to change until Schuerholz retires, or leaves Atlanta. He’ll hang on to this gravy train as long as he can. Liberty would have to fire him to make him leave.

By Bravesfan4life

October 11, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

WHY DO THEY NEED MKIRK? HE IS A LOSER!!!!

By Jason

October 11, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

Good. Whether he moves up the Braves food chain or not, it’s about time we got some new blood in there as GM. Schuerholz was a more effective GM and made better trades when he was new with the organization and hungrier to make a difference in the role here. In the past several years, he has not been very effective signing the next big thing or acquiring the talent the Braves need to go back to the World Series (or to the playoffs at all for that matter). The Braves need new life and someone in there who can convince the powers that be (now Schuerholz as Pres) to spend the money to get the guys who can fill the gaps and get the team back on top.

By Oliver Stone

October 11, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

Shifting from and active role to figurehead role is a common move made by companies to deflect negative media attention. Then he either gets bored and retires or later on when he is out of the public eye, Liberty gives him the ax gracefully, of course. They’ll even spring for a JS bobblehead night. These are media people folks, the worst there is, back stabbers by the hundreds. Ask yourselves, if JS was terminated by Liberty Media, what would the response from the fan base and media be? Not too good!! This is the corporate death march but to us good denizens, it looks like a promotion for JS. I’m sure DOB will play the corporate line when he finally weighs in, but I am not fooled. Are you?

By Reality

October 11, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

Good ridence ….. He will always be a wothless bum. The only thing that would have been better is if he had have done this 17 years ago.

By Headlines

October 11, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

The cherry on the top would be if Cox steps down also …. We could only hope that will be the next move.

By Taylor

October 11, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

Bob Montag, you’re an idiot!

By tim

October 11, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

To the people who says JS has not done any big moves lately. Ever heard of a guy named Mark Texeira. We made the BIGGEST move of any team at the deadline.

By Oliver Stone

October 11, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

First JFK, then RFK.

Now JS, Look out BC????????????????

These covert b******* are mind probers of the worst sort. They steal your thoughts and use them against you, but of course they spin it to make you think its good for you. You people stop letting yourself be led around like a horse at a birthday party.

Tune in and watch it happen.

By Jon B

October 11, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

Hey Dipsh!t!!! The AJC’s O-R-I-G-I-N-A-L Story ran for about an hour, starting at 11:51am, so how come, Dipsh!t, was that it was almost 2 full hours after the fact the updated story came out and yet people were still complaining about JS leaving and blah blah blah? maybe you should think before you type, J*******.

By scott boras

October 11, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

best wishes john!

can’t wait to start negotiating with the new guy.

By Dipsh!t

October 11, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Hey Jon Boy,

How about you learning how to enunciate your message clearly. That was Chinese to us dipsh!ts.

By KPH

October 11, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

I have been a Braves fan since they moved here in 1966 and John Schuerholz as well as Bobby Cox were the best thing to ever happen to this team. Thank’s John for a job well done and I truly enjoyed being a Braves fan during your tenure!

By Adirondackdave

October 11, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

I think we’ll be just fine with Frank Wren. That said, I’m very interested in hearing DOB’s take on this change.

By BIG DADDY

October 11, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

Everything has a beginning and an ending and that includes the Braves GM job. Be thankful JS will be aroung for Wren to bounce ideas off as he gets his feet wet.

Now start hoping for enough money to sign Teixiera for 5 years.

By Plate Appearance

October 11, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

NL EAST SIGH OF RELIEF

The teams in the NL east just breathed a collective sigh of relief!

By Tyger

October 11, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

GOOD RIDDANCE

Now, finally, the Braves can return to post-season glory - and remove the emphasis from the front office and payroll - back to the field and the players.

If anything, Mon Schuerholz proved that he cant manage on a budget. Once the budget was reduced from $100M the Braves dissapeared from the playoffs and relativity. Despite other smaller markets prospering during the same timespan.

The disastrous signing of Mike Hampton for $16M proved his downfall. We are still paying that guy for nothing, while letting long time winners like Andruw, Furcal, Sheffield and Maddux walk.

His personal vendetta with agent Scott Boras has diminished his value to the organization. He can no longer objectively exercise his duties b/c of this obsession.

Boras today, who tommorrow? Braves have too much on the line to have a p** contest overshadowing negotiations that could put us back into contention.

Increasingly bad decisions over the past few years have come to a head. His lack of loyalty and sense of tradition has seeped beyond the lockeroom. The farm system is no longer the best in the league. The broadcast rights and personalties are foreign. And the move from Macon to Rome was immature to say the least. More or less, it accumulated into the the end of America’s Team.

Maybe Wren will lead from a 21st century perspective but how can he with Mon Schuerholtz standing over his shoulder?

By DaNooch

October 11, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

It’s about time. I always said this would happen and, in fact, said it on the blog here when Schuerholz made the Teixeira trade. This day has been coming since he got here. The moment Schuerholz realized he had sucked the last bit of talent out of the Braves farm system and could not make anymore of his lopsided trades for big name stars, he rides off into the sunset leaving the Braves in the toilet. He will still be called a “genius” by all of the clueless morons who still can’t see what he has done to this franchise. He is a thief slipping off in the night after he has robbed the Braves of their future, and you idiots are thanking him for it.

By BIG DADDY

October 11, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

**By Bravesfan4life

October 11, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Liberty is not into winning. They want money and tax write-offs. Who is really running the show? MKirk? I hope not! If so… the Braves are akin to the SS Titanic.**

Why do you write such crap? If you have such insight into what Liberty wants maybe you should share it with us. And while you are doing it explain why Liberty would do anything that would weaken the franchise and REDUCE ITS VALUE.

Your statement makes no sense whatsoever.

By BIG DADDY

October 11, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this

Tyger and DaNooch, I do believe you should both try a glass half full sometime. You might me amazed at what you find.

If the next GM and Manager win 14 division championships in a row will you call them idiots and failures like you are calling JS and Bobby Cox?

People like you make me sick.

By DI

October 11, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

I think JS was great, but I think it was time. He couldn’t negotiate anymore with Boras as Tyger says. He had a tarnished relationship with Glavine who probably is coming back. We need to sign Texiera among others who are represented by Boras. I think it was just time to move on. Who could blame him for his issues with Boras and even Glavine for that matter. In the end I think it’s best for both him and the Braves. He’s still in a great position and hopefully he’ll still pull the strings behind the scenes.

By DaNooch

October 11, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

Bobby Crocks,

Do you even watch baseball? The teams in the playoffs now, with the one exception of Boston, all have smaller payrolls than the Braves. They all built their teams through their farm systems, the way Bobby Cox did just before John Schuerholz came in and started getting all the credit. He is a leach. He traded away every ounce of talent from what was the richest farm system in baseball, and, now that he has nothing left to wheel and deal with, he is riding off into the sunset with his ridiculous “genius” tag intact.

By phillipfulmer

October 11, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

Hey DaNooch,you are an idiot!!! you and Scott Boras should take a ride down Brokeback Mountain.Bet you’ve been watching Braves for what,3-4 years?Go back to the old days and you will know what a hell of a job JS has done.

By DaNooch

October 11, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this

phillipfulmer,

I was born and raised in Atlanta. I’ve been watching every pitch since I could walk. That’s how I remember exactly what took place just before he got here and everything since. YOU SHOULD GO BACK TO TENNESSEE YOU HOMO HILLBILLY!!!

By vwburt

October 11, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

give the guy a chance. he may be agood one. six mouths will tell the story. at lease 3 or 4 trades has to be made for the braves to get back into the play-off caliber. the braves needs speed

By Gayle Abbott

October 11, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

Hey Tim;

You’re absolutely right. The Braves’ did make the move and get Texiera at the deadline. But it will only be a great move if he stays after next year. And history tells us that these players don’t stay.

Remember JD Drew? Remember Gary Sheffield - one year wonders.

By DaNooch

October 11, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

BIG DADDY,

Can you read? Try to read what I said more slowly and carefully next time. I didn’t call Bobby Cox an idiot. You’re the idiot. What I said was Bobby Cox built the best farm system in baseball. Then Schuerholz stepped in and got all the credit for it. At the same time Schuerholz traded away all the talent in the farm system. Now that there is nothing left to trade away he is leaving.

Can you understand that? Or do I need to spell it out for you in simpler terms?

By mo in the boonies

October 11, 2007 6:21 PM | Link to this

Obviously all you people have no idea how Corporations work. When a man becomes a handicap in his job, but the company doesn’t want to embarrass him, they “kick him upstairs” to an insignificant job, such as president of whatever….he has a fancy title, but it doesn’t mean anything. He is just bidding his time until he retires…which will no doubt be next year.

By Jon B

October 11, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

Wow, big word for you isn’t it? Enunciate. lol, not impressive though. You are still a dipsh!t.

By Overlord

October 11, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

October 11, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this———My thoughts…Thanks for McGriff…Thanks for Tex…Bye…

????????

Which team have you been watching all these years? Is that all you have noticed?

On 2nd thought, this aint so bad for us. I mean, john is still around, with even more power in the organization. He still will be one of the minds in every move braves make. So why is everybody so alarmed? Plus, he is the sensei of our new GM, so why not having a little faith.

I must be missing a point here.

By BUSHWACKER

October 11, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this

Lane your own words make you an idiot, fire Bobby after the 93 and 96 ?

Why because the PLAYERS CHOKED???

I don’t remember Bobby going hitless or giving up home runs?

When did you start watching baseball, during the home runs chases, figures!!

By Chris

October 11, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this

This is the first part of the Liberty shakeup when they purchased the Braves from those scumbags at Time Warner (who still want Bush and Cheney impeached at all costs. Even Ted’s ex-wife Jane has stated that.). Look for the Braves (and Time Warner’s empire to keep collapsing despite Schuerholz’s promotion.

By Sheri D.

October 11, 2007 6:45 PM | Link to this

Jon B, please go back up north, you ill-mannered, foul-mouthed piece of human waste. You sound like an even bigger JERK than my piece-of-slime EX, and that is QUITE a feat.

If you come to terms with your latent homosexuality, you might not be so cruel toward others.

By David

October 11, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

Guys he is not leaving the Braves….he is the President of the team….he has a guy under who has been with him for years…this is a good thing not a bad thing. I think JS will be involved in all of the trade talks, and maybe adding some thought to our owners about increasing the payroll…this should not be viewed as a negative thing.

By jeremy

October 11, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

Schuerholz for prez!!!

By DaNooch

October 11, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

Main Entry: enun·ci·ate Pronunciation: E-‘n&n(t)-sE-“At Function: verb Inflected Form(s): -at·ed; -at·ing Etymology: Latin enuntiatus, past participle of enuntiare to report, declare, from e- + nuntiare to report — more at ANNOUNCE transitive verb 1 a : to make a definite or systematic statement of b : ANNOUNCE, PROCLAIM 2 : ARTICULATE, PRONOUNCE

If you don’t know what a word means, try another word.

By beki

October 11, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this

Stunner! Can’t believe that JS won’t be swinging any deal anymore; however,as president,I guess,he’ll give the ok to make the deals that FW wants to make. My question is this: With JS gone and the BC death watch beginning,who’s going to take BC’s place? That’s what I want to know.

By Scorphil

October 11, 2007 7:40 PM | Link to this

Thank you Mr. Schuerholz and I know you will not let Wren botch this up as you remain in a supervisory position. A Braves fan since the very first game in Atlanta, I suffered through the bad years (500 fans at a game) and reveled in the good years…the amazing streak of winning teams. Your hiring is second only to Jesus parting the red sea. With reduced payroll, the past two seasons may be your most remarkable accomplishments…preventing the Braves from descending into oblivion (see pirates.com). You have been a blessing and I wish you the best in your new role.

By Bob Montag

October 11, 2007 7:42 PM | Link to this

Taylor how can that be if you are my brother? Bet you have tattoo of Bobby on your arm?

By cooper

October 11, 2007 7:47 PM | Link to this

It was time. JS was spent and he is ready to wind down. That said Wren has a less that stellar track record pre-Braves and has been totally behind the scenes under JS.

By January 1st we will know if Wren is a goat or what the org needs.

Frankly JS should have bailed a year ago and let Dayton take the GM gig. He was the heir apparent and now we are stuck with the third string QB.

Even money Wren is fired at the end of 08 and Bobby retires along with JS.

By BravesFanInRockies

October 11, 2007 8:07 PM | Link to this

Let’s hope Wren has learned volumes at JS’s side over the years. He didn’t exactly set the world on fire in Baltimore. Then again, he had to deal with Peter Angelos, which will burn a hole in anybody’s resume …

By morris

October 11, 2007 8:14 PM | Link to this

Where is all this superstar talent shuerholz has traded from the farm? Can all you experts out there making that claim please provide us a list. The braves have been masters over the years at ” framing ” their farm system and players to make them look much better than they really are. Remember the heist shuerholz pulled off to get tim hudson? Charles thomas, juan cruz, and the supposed star in the making lefty dan meyer. All of these guys turned out to be duds and thats saying something because billy beane usually doesn’t get fooled. How about the fred mcgriff larceny shuerholz pulled off from san diego? And the most recent trade that had braves nation up in arms when we traded away salty and elvis. Elvis is another wilson I can’t it hit a lick betemit and salty will turn out to be a marginal player. JS has gotten the upper hand in deals many more times than the opposition. The braves won more consecutive division titles than any team has ever won in any major american sport. Yet some of you call JS an idiot. I guess some of you would like to go back to being the old pre-shuerholz braves huh?

By Excelsior!

October 11, 2007 8:15 PM | Link to this

I don’t mind Frank Thomas too much on TBS. He speaks well enough. However, would they make him wear a hat? That freaky dome is distracting.

By Excelsior!

October 11, 2007 8:27 PM | Link to this

And another thing, ….Craig Sager? WTF? Can’t TBS find some eye candy to do the brainless onfield interviews? We have to look at a 50yo doofus in a weird sports jacket?

TBS - They Blow Station.

By DaNooch

October 11, 2007 9:22 PM | Link to this

Why in God’s name would Bobby Cox be upset to see Schuerholz go? Why would Bobby Cox want to leave now? Schuerholz has traded away or just let go through free agency everyone of Cox’s favorite players over the years against Cox’s wishes. Now, he as his last act as GM he tried to run off Cox’s favorite player of all time, Andruw Jones. Bobby Cox is dancing in the streets somewhere right now.

By DaNooch

October 11, 2007 10:43 PM | Link to this

Here is a list of guys that I can remember Schuerholz trading in the last few years. This doesn’t even count all of the “players to be named later” who none of us will probably even know about because it is done in such a sneaky secretive way. Before any of you a***** even start, I know not all of these guys turned out to be superstars. Almost all of them are currently or were for many years on major league major league rosters. Several are in the playoffs right now.

Ron Gant, David Justice, Adam Wainwright, Jermaine Dye, Vinny Castillo, Paul Byrd, Ryan Klesko, Marcus Giles, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Elvis Andrus, Wilson Betemit, Tony Pena Jr., Gary Mathews Jr., Kent Mercker, Adam LaRoche, Odalis Perez, Wes Helms, Jason Marquis, Joe Borowski, Ray King, Juan Cruz, Dan Meyer, Charles Thomas, Jose Capellan, Jason Schmidt, Jorge Sosa, Neftali Feliz, Matt Harrison, Beau Jones, Kyle Davies, Wil Ledezma, Will Startup, Danys Baez, Macay McBride, Roman Colon, Alan Embree, Justin Speier, Nick Green, Yorvit Torrealba, Tony Graffanino, Ryan Langerhans.

By Howie from Poughkeepsie

October 12, 2007 7:46 AM | Link to this

The Braves problem in winning a World Series has always been on the field - not in the GM seat. Wren won’t make too many mistakes - if any - with John as his boss. We need a center fielder and two starting pitchers - Frank, let’s go!

By Daryl

October 12, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this

I think JS was, indeed, a excellent GM for the Braves except for one thing, he’s a bigot. Out of 14 straight division titles, they should have won the World Series at least seven times. But not being open-minded enough to embrace some of the better player in baseball, JS allowed his opinionation to define his team and organization, and thus determined the destiny of the Braves. It’s a sad day to see that the Braves will continue in this same direction and philosophy.

By John

October 12, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

A rebuttal to the post by DaNooch. You have to move players in any sport. You have to give up some value to get value. How many of those players are impact major league players who would help the Braves today? By that I mean does the player the Braves have in that position now pose an upgrade to the names listed. In most cases yes. Giles has been a bust in San Diego. Klesko has never approaced what he did in Atlanta and now is so hobbled that he can’t play the field. On that list the only players who would have had a positive impact on this year’s braves are the bullpen arms of Cappellean, Wil Ledezma, & Wainwright in the bullpen or rotation. Dye is an impact major leaguer, but his price tag would have driven him out of Atlanta years ago and he has had some down years as well. JS is a master of getting teams to take Braves minor leaguers in exchange for major league talent. Hudson and Renteria came for hyped Braves prospects who have yet to accomplish much at the major league level. Would the Braves have been better with Marte, Thomas, Cruz, and Meyer on their team this year instead of Hudson and Renteria? In 2007 would Giles have been an updgrade over KJ at 2nd? Would Franceour still be in the minors waiting his turn behind Dye. JD Drew would never have played here if Dye was here. You are not going to get the upside of every trade, but to list all the players that have been moved from here without detailing who came in return or who is here now is not real a complete assesment of the performance of JS. Remember he has done this within a budget. Not the 143 million dollar payroll of the Red Sox. The Red Sox in 2007 have annual salaires of 14 million commited to JD Drew, 9 million to Julio Lugo, 8 million to Matt Clement, 4 million to Joel Pinero. What do you think JS would do with 60 million more to spend. Part of the genius of JS was his ability to work within a budget.

By John

October 12, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

Oh Daryl, Please go home with your hate. Andruw Jones, Charles Thomas, Jermaine Dye, Reggie Sanders, Gary Sheffield, Terry Pendleton, Edgar Renteria, Yunel Escobar, Johnny Estrada, Rafael Soriano, are just a fraction of the minority players that have come through Atlanta. I didn’t here Sheffield ever complain about the Atlanta organization. Your arguement is old and tired and lacks merit.

By GE

October 12, 2007 9:28 AM | Link to this

Was this a promotion or a resignation? I wonder if he really wanted the change or was McQuirk forced by new management to make it happen. What does the Club President do in relation to the GM? Maybe John just wants to prepare for retirement in a less stressful position. He has done everything that a GM could do to qualify a franchise as a success.

By Daryl ---> Super Racist, Super Idiot

October 12, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

Daryl, you are THE Dumbest person to ever post on a BRAVES Blog.

Please die, Daryl, you unintelligent, racist simpleton.

By Daryl

October 12, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

John, thank you for your narrow-minded insight. Over seventeen years and you can only name a few black players? How many do we have on the team now? If you can’t distinguish the different between reality and wishful thinking, it’s either because you’re aren’t looking or you’re aren’t concern. Either way, this spells bigotry. By the way, bigotry is a topic, thanks to people like yourself and JS, that will never go away. Get use to the facts being stated.

By Johnny Cochran

October 12, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

U speaks de troof, Daryl!! U go boyeeeeeeeeeee!!!

By Daryl

October 12, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

It’s funny, I almost died yesterday! “It takes an idiot, to know an idiot.” And it takes a racist, to know a black one. Simplicity is a mark of genius. Just as luck is a mark of champions. The Braves and JS were never lucky. And they are not geniuses. And you, being so much lower than they are(dump a*), makes me want to die.

By BravesGirl

October 12, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

Did the librarian help you turn on the computer, provided for your non-productive self by OUR tax dollars, so you could spread your poorly-worded, rage-filled, jealousy-fueled, uneducated, HATEMONGERING agenda on a Sports Blog, Daryl?

Maybe if your boyfriend gives you a nice, soothing massage during your bubble bath together tonight, you won’t be so angry at the world in the morning.
If you are extra nice and stop being such a grumpy head, maybe he will even read you a bedtime story from a book with big, bright “pitchers.”

By Johnny Cochran

October 12, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

U almost DIED yesterday, Daryl? Who we gonna SUE over dat one, baby??!!?? U a victim, I say!! U deserve FREE money for almost kickin de bucket Daryl!!! You come see me…we’ll figure dat out…uh huh…

By BIG DADDY

October 12, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this

“Why in God’s name would Bobby Cox be upset to see Schuerholz go? Why would Bobby Cox want to leave now? Schuerholz has traded away or just let go through free agency everyone of Cox’s favorite players over the years against Cox’s wishes. Now, he as his last act as GM he tried to run off Cox’s favorite player of all time, Andruw Jones. Bobby Cox is dancing in the streets somewhere right now”

Blathering stupidity from beginning to end. If that is your best shot perhaps you should retire from writing and return to your other job of feeding and exercising Marcus’ Pit Bulls.

By Daryl

October 12, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Why not use your real names when you respond to my blogs. Hiding behind hooded masks is a coward’s attribute. If you’re man enough to call me unintelligent, dumb and uniformed for expressing a fact(not an opinion),you should be man enough to use your name. Then again, this technique has been proven to be quite effected-for cowards and bigots.

By Johnny Cochran

October 12, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

REP-RE-SENT, DARYL!!! Find out who dey is, and we SUE!!!

SUE! SUE! SUE!!!!

By rgbutterfly

October 12, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

GET LEO BACK!!!!!! Leo Mazzone was fired by the Baltimore Orioles. Ok! Ok! Ok! Mr Wren here is a great opportunity to show your loyalty to the Braves. Sign Leo now! The Brave’s pitching staff have not been the same since Leo left. Get him now!!! This is the FIRST big signing of the Braves offseason moves. Bring Back Leo.!Then get some REAL 3-5 pitching.

By Sharon B. Harrison

October 12, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Daryl the Dumb -

No on here HAS TO point out what an uneducated, racist, hateful dummy you are, to say nothing of how little you know about baseball. (Besides, it is NOT just the M-E-N on here who can see you for the idiotic garbage you are, D.) Aside from your blind hatred for one another, you and the Klan have MUCH in common, Daryl the Dumb.

Your laughable posts tell the World quite clearly how truly weak your brain is and what a complete waste of flesh.

By the way, I live in Kennesaw, GA, and I’ve got a 12-gauge shotgun waiting for your racist rage if you decide to come pay me an (UNinvited) visit for noticing your stupidity, Dummy Daryl.

GO BRAVES !!!

OH, could you please get me some ketchup for my fries, Daryl? Thank you.

By Daryl

October 12, 2007 7:19 PM | Link to this

If I am an uneducated, racist dummy, then why are you paying by comments any attention. Your comments are very predicable. What else can you say if you’re a bigot? Beside trying to discard my opinions as meritless, as any intelligent person would, you can only try and belittle me in hopes of making yourself feel better as person. The truth sometimes hurt. And it can never go away. Because it is larger than us all.