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The best and worst SEC jobs

What’s up with Alabama still looking for a head football coach?

That job used to be one of the plum positions in all of college football. Now they’re having trouble getting their man.

What SEC job do you think is the best?

Or the worst?

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By richard

December 13, 2006 01:01 AM | Link to this

There are as many people living in Atlanta as are in the state of Alabama. It is a numbers game. Plus recruit against Auburn.

By Gator Guy

December 13, 2006 03:45 AM | Link to this

The Florida head coaching job is a great job if you’re Steve Spurrier or Urban Meyer; it’s not such a great job if you’re Ron Zook. Well, duh, you say? My point is this: UF has outstanding sports facilities, oodles of alumni money, great academic support programs, and potentially great recruits every year. It also has very high fan expectations. If you’re in the hunt for the SEC championship year in and year out, and your team is talked about as a national title contender, you’re safe. Go three consecutive seasons without playing in the SEC championship game, and you’re probably gone soon. The Gator fans’ expectations are not quite as ridiculous as those of Notre Dame or Alabama fans, but those expectations are very high after having been spoiled by the Evil Genius for 12 years. Heck, even the Ol’ Ball Coach couldn’t satisfy some Gator fantics … .

By Joe

December 13, 2006 07:33 AM | Link to this

The number one job is a job that you can keep which would put the bottem of SEC at the top of the list. Vandy would have to be the top followed by South caralina. Stay away from the schools who think a losing season is 6-4.

By Jim

December 13, 2006 07:46 AM | Link to this

HONK IF YOU HAVE COACHED AT ALABAMA !!

By G'Vegas Dawg

December 13, 2006 07:51 AM | Link to this

South Carolina is without a doubt the best coaching job in the SEC. Where else can you “waller” in mediocrity, have screaming redneck fans who are so used to losing that they don’t even mind anymore, your biggest win of every year is Clemson, have a membership to Augusta National, only beat UGA once a decade, beat UT and UF once every 20 years, and STILL get a rediculous extension on your contract?

By GW

December 13, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this

Florida should be the best, especially with no AJC breathing down their neck.

By Tyler

December 13, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

The Best SEC job is Florida. ….Huge school and deep pockets. The worst SEC job is South Carolina…..Carolina located in the dump of Columbia and has very little football history.

In the ACC, The best is a tie between Clemson and Florida State….Clemson is the perfect college town with deep southern traditions, great stadium and loyal fan base. FSU is one of the top programs in the last 20 or so years. The worst is Duke…Enough said. Miami is right behind Duke because they lack loyal fan base, plays in the awful Orange Bowl stadium.

By G'Vegas Dawg

December 13, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this

The ACC has football?? Hmm, when did they start playing?

By Yo mama

December 13, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this

That AllerBammer’s a good’un, but the athletic director is stoopid. They cudda had them that Paul Johnson feller, but sat around with they thumbs up whar tha sun don’t shine and gave Navy time to lock him up for at least one more year.

By AUBRAD

December 13, 2006 08:39 AM | Link to this

There is a tie between 11 teams for best job in the SEC. Every one of them can just sit back at laugh at bama right now.

By BAMA

December 13, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

Another day of BAMA bashing. Yawn.

Honk if you went 12-0 and have no national championship!

Honk if you got beat by Arkysaw and got tossed out of BCS contention!!!

Honk if your school is continually the focus of academic fraud investigations!!!

ROLL TIDE

By esmith

December 13, 2006 09:28 AM | Link to this

I’d take the Vandy job in a heartbeat!! No pressure. One SEC win a year is a good year. And other than the wacko punter who tried to stab the backup QB last week ([http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061208/SPORTS0602/612080415/1036/sports0602]), the coach doesn’t have to deal with all the disciplinary problems other SEC schools do.

By Rod

December 13, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

Know what they call a pretty girl at ALABAMA?

A visitor!

By Tide Fan

December 13, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this

Crimson Tide fans are soon going to start shifting allegiance to Auburn just as the former Democrats became Republicans! Why? In Alabama nobody really loves a loser and the longer this humbling search drags out the more Tiger fans will emerge in the state. I’m sure at least a tenth of both Alabama and Auburn’s fan base are unaware if only slightly aware there are educational institutions attached to the football stadiums. And I am very serious as I lived half my life there!

By Carlos

December 13, 2006 10:21 AM | Link to this

The Tennessee job is overrated. The majority of their player roster is out-of-state players. It takes a special coach to bring in so many outside the state players and be successful. Fulmer has done a great job. What will happen when Fulmer goes? Great programs like Notre Dame, Oklahoma, USC, Penn State, etc. have been down. Watch for Alabama to bounce back as well. Spurrier will never win the SEC at S.C. Too tough to beat FL, GA, TN every year. Georgia was a bad team this year. LSU is probably the 2nd best job in the SEC since they dominate a talent grown Lousiana. Auburn will be the flop of the year in 2007. Florida will win the SEC again, over Arkansas, again.

By david

December 13, 2006 10:35 AM | Link to this

I really dont understand why people are bashing alabama just because they dont have a coach yet. Anyone that has been around S.E.C. football for awhile knows that at one time Alabama pretty much carried that the S.E.C. on its back. I think getting the Alabama job would be a great job for any coach. Not many programs have the traditon that Alabama has, 12 national championship and about 18-19 S.E.C. titles. Any coach should be honored to even be asked to interviewed for the job.

By FluffAlbright

December 13, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

BAMA,

Thanks for reminding me why I should never be magnanimous when it comes to Bama.

“Honk if you went 12-0 and have no national championship!”

Funny stuff. You’ve lost 5 in a row to AU and you’re ribbing us for going undefeated and not winning the mythical BCS championship. BTW it was 13-0. Good luck finding a coach idiot. We’ll be looking forward to pounding the new guy in 07. Stay classy Bama fans.

By E

December 13, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

Speaking of Alabama’s 12 national champions…

several of them are bogus, retroactively awarded championships.

1941 is my favorite.

1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year.

By stevej

December 13, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this

ANY COACH IN THIS COUNTRY WHO ACCEPTS THE HEAD COACHING JOB AT ALABAMA WOULD BE MAKING A HUGE MISTAKE.THE WAY THEY TREATED MIKE SHULA MUST NOT HAVE GONE UNOTICED. HE TOOK THAT JOB 5 YEARS AGO WHEN NO ONE ELSE WOULD. HE DID A GREAT JOB CONSIDERING THE RESTRAINTS THAT WERE PUT ON HIM BY THE NCAA FOR THE SCANDAL THAT ALABAMA HAD GONE THROUGH.HIS REWARD HE GETS FIRED FOR HAVING A 6-6 RECORD.LAST YEAR HAD HIS BEST SKILL PLAYER HAD NOT BROKEN HIS LEG HE COULD HAVE WON THE SEC.IDO NOT THINK ANY BIG TIME COACH WANTS TO BE TREATED THAT WAY.SO GOOD LUCK ALABAMA FINDING THE RIGHT PERSON TO LEAD YOUR PROGRAM,YOU HAD THE RIGHT PERSON BUT YOU FIRED HIM.

By godawg

December 13, 2006 11:20 AM | Link to this

Alabama is, without a doubt, the worst job in the COUNTRY at this time. The fans, administration and boosters are too impatient to give anyone a chance to build a program there and don’t live up to their promises. They promised Shula five years (4 to get off probation and 1 to compete) and fire him before the fourth year is over (still on probation, geez).

No wonder any coach with a brain wouldn’t touch it with a ten-foot-pole. ‘Bammer fans think someone can just walk in there and win the SEC the first year and the NC the second. Guess what? You don’t have the personel. Even The Bear needed time to build the program. Ya’ll are morons and everybody knows it. Lotsa luck…

By BAMA

December 13, 2006 11:27 AM | Link to this

Auburn: Where toilet papering trees is a revered tradition.

By Timothy Leary

December 13, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this

Alabama, where heavy duty narcotics are a tradition for students and faculty.

By Jimmy

December 13, 2006 12:09 PM | Link to this

Dear GVegas Dog/Tyler: You are degrading Columbia, SC? Let’s look at the wonderful urban environment of Atlanta/Athens which really are now sort of one mega-city glued together by an unending line of traffic, violence, smog and one subdivision after another. You know those priceless reproduction McMansions with people in them whose highest aspiration in life is the purchase of a large boat with fish radar. Atlanta, you know the place with the soul of a Wal-Mart and the high culture of lining up in traffic on I-285. I will put Columbia’s revitalized and beautiful planned downtown against any town in Georgia. And rednecks? I think Georgia has more than its fair share. Just go to a few Georgia home games, look at the idiots barking, and you will get my point.

And Mr. Tyler, the only place in the world I have felt more isolated and alone than Clemson, SC was in Antartica, so I wouldn’t talk about any other city.

By Wow Such Vitriole

December 13, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

Dang, Jimmy, truth hurts I guess. About Columbia, I mean. You’ve got our fair state all wrong. Stay in yours.

By AUBRAD

December 13, 2006 12:40 PM | Link to this

Hey Bama...It's honk if you've lost 5 straight and soon to be 10 to Auburn. Seriously,the football program is in great shape over there in tuscalooser. Why don't you just get one of your former drunk players or your drunk announcer to apply for the job. It's the program itself that has caused it to be the laughing stock of the whole state. No worries though...you'll win 9 games one of these years and the Birmingham laundry mat can claim you with another national championship. It's rolling baby..It's rolling.........

By War Eagle

December 13, 2006 12:55 PM | Link to this

Amazing top 5 coaching jobs, Florida, UGA, LSU are top 3 year in and out recruiting, plus Auburn and Tenn top 14 or better each year. The coaching staff and facilities are the factors.

By Corey

December 13, 2006 01:19 PM | Link to this

I’m puzzled by the Gayters being ranked number 1 when the HC has to look out and see a fashion statement of JEAN SHORTS! Note to BCS NC game travelers: Inappropriate attire to pack for your trip to AZ. Please do the SEC a huge favor and leave them home!

By Justin

December 13, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

I don’t understand why everyone is so worried about high expectations at Alabama or anywhere. The coaches job is to win games period. If you don’t you should be fired. If I performed at .500 at my job I would expect to be fired.

By Carlos

December 13, 2006 02:09 PM | Link to this

Mark Richt and the Georgia Bulldogs went south in 2006. With such a “plum” job, Richt will only occasionally beat Florida, and win the SEC. The recruiting experts always have Georgia in the Top 5 nationally, so why do they under perform? Funny thing is, the recruiting experts are in Atlanta, which is in Georgia. Imagine that. If Georgia could only keep Auburn and Tennessee out of Georgia. Richt is now playing with “his” recruits. Lets see now if he can coach.

By nory

December 13, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this

GO AUBURN!!!

By Banger

December 13, 2006 02:56 PM | Link to this

Georgia the #2 coaching job in the SEC, GIVE ME A BREAK! It is top 5, but no #2…In reality, I see the jobs ranking as follows…#1 Florida #2 tie b/w LSU and Auburn #4 Tennessee #5 Georgia. Sorry Tony, but that’s the way it is…

By Banger

December 13, 2006 03:00 PM | Link to this

UGA #2? Top 5, but definitly not the number two job in the SEC. That is crazy…#1 Florida #2 tie b/w LSU & Auburn #4 Tennessee #5 Georgia #6 Alabama #7 Arkansas (they do actually have tradition, look at what they did in the ’60s) #8 South Carolina #9 Ole Miss #10 Mississippi St #11 Kentucky #12 Vandy

By G'Vegas Dawg

December 13, 2006 03:01 PM | Link to this

Jimmy - Nice comeback idiot!! Let’s criticize a state for their traffic and suburbs instead of talking about football. That is the one area that you failed to mention. Jackass.

By War Eagle

December 13, 2006 03:02 PM | Link to this

Florida is one of the top programs not only the SEC, the country.Those orange trees pay heavy dividends. I am glad next year is Auburn last meeting with them for 4 four years. Bama, please don`t try to make yourself and Bammer look worst than what the situation is now.The football program is the laughing agenda of newspapers, ESPN and other media outlets,one writer for Birmingham News ask, are the Three Stooges running that program? When Jetgate occurred at Auburn, it was not only humiliated, but embarrassing. We regained our composure and went 13-0 next year thanks to a great coaching job by CTT. Bammers are setback again more so than probation because you will lose more recruits with this than cheating.I would like to see Bammer get a good solid coach and get back on their feet for the SEC and state of Alabama.

By Banger

December 13, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

UGA #2? Top 5, but definitly not the number two job in the SEC. That is crazy…#1 Florida #2 tie b/w LSU & Auburn #4 Tennessee #5 Georgia #6 Alabama #7 Arkansas (they do actually have tradition, look at what they did in the ’60s) #8 South Carolina #9 Ole Miss #10 Mississippi St #11 Kentucky #12 Vandy

By Jackie Anne

December 13, 2006 03:09 PM | Link to this

Well maybe you should recruit Jeff Fisher to coach. He is winning his court case for all of America.

He lives in Atlanta.

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By Crimson Tide Fan

December 13, 2006 03:36 PM | Link to this

THE ABSOLUTE WORST PLACE IN TNE NATION FOR A FOOTBALL COACH—-The U n i v e r s i t y of A L A B A M A!!!!!!!!!

By James

December 13, 2006 05:14 PM | Link to this

Can someone please explain to me the whole UF Jean Shorts thing?

By Banger

December 13, 2006 05:36 PM | Link to this

yes James…the “N” word

By Pequod

December 13, 2006 07:06 PM | Link to this

Here is a different view of the situation. Football has nothing to do with the purposes of a university which are teaching and research. The public university system in Georgia suffered $750 million in budget cuts during Perdue’s tenure thus far and the football and sports facilities continue to flourish. The University of Georgia, as with most SEC teams, has nine assistant coaches making over $100,000 a year and a head coach whose salary is $1.7 million per year. According to the AJC’s article, Arkansas, still one of the poorer states in the nation, has spent $200 million on upgrading its sports facilities. How many people outside the region view either of these universities as academically first rate?

Football coaches are glorified PE teachers. Few have advanced degrees, virtually none are qualified to teach a university course, and yet Mark Richt makes 20-25 times what the average tenured faculty member at UGA receives after earning a PhD, teaching for five years, and publishing articles in scholarly journals. Oh, but he works so hard. Who wouldn’t for such a salary? And so do professors who spend five years or more gaining a PhD and work constantly to obtain tenure and receive a fraction of the income. This is simply a case of inverted priorities.

NCAA Division I universities, with the exception of Stanford, subject their non-athletic students to much higher admission requirements than that of their regular students. If they didn’t, as Dooley famously said on the stand in the Jan Kemp court case “we couldn’t compete at any level.” So, many semi-literates are courted like princesses to come to the university and play football. (And they also seem to get into an inordinate amount of trouble when they are there.)

The economic argument for the maintaining such programs has been refuted by several major studies one of which was written by the presidents of a number of universities. And suppose they did make money does that really justify their presence at non-profit institutions of supposedly higher learning?

The same problem exists in Georgia’s secondary schools where parents will supplement coaches’ salaries with their own money, mortgage their houses to build football stadiums for their high schools, and all the while the South remains abysmally behind the rest of the nation in education. But its football coaches remain well paid, in fact, paid more than the teachers irrespective of their academic credentials. But this is the South, the SEC, “nation” of the Bulldogs and given its status as a virtual religion nothing will change when it comes to football.

By War Eagle

December 13, 2006 08:23 PM | Link to this

Pequod, first of all, football coaches are all PE teachers. I taught secondary school and football coach with two degrees in History and Foreign Affairs with a Masters in Special Education.There are many coaches with advance degrees and academic accomplishments.Coach Richt and the UGA Athletic department, as other major college program bring in Millions of dollars to the Universities and college from donation outside the circle of athletics. There are buildings, Professional Chairs, scholarships, Grants and campus improvements generated through Athletic Department.A former football player gave 2.3 million grant to the Vet Dept. at Auburn . What you need to do with your liberal antics is check through public records from any Univeristy and find out the dollars a football team brings in a year is big $$$. This is why Mark Richt or any other high profile coach makes 1.7 million a year…How much revenue does the Art , Economic or Chemistry Dept. bring to a school of higher learning? Do you know how much donation the former Trust Company of Georgia Bank donated to Georgia Tech from former Tech football players?? Do you realize the economic value a community accumulates on a home football game when 90,000 people come to town? You are out in left field on jabbing athletic programs and their leaders.

By James

December 13, 2006 09:27 PM | Link to this

what do Jean Shorts have to do with the ‘N’ word? What is the whole UF Jean shorts thing?

By G'Vegas Dawg

December 13, 2006 09:41 PM | Link to this

Hey PeeQuad - First of all, try doing away with football at any SEC school with the exception of Vanderbilt and see how many students enroll there. Furthermore, Half of the aforementioned professors would be unemployed due to the lack of enrollment. In order to make comments like you did, first think of the big picture. That is what I tell all of my employees when they question a call, look at the big picture.

By Pequod

December 13, 2006 10:01 PM | Link to this

I taught in a secondary school as well before changing academic fields to obtain a PhD and move to college teaching. Most of the high school football coaches I knew and have read about are clearly academically second rate and more concerned with their athletic success which determines whether they retain their positions rather than the quality of their teaching in the classroom. When was the last time a coach was fired for being a poor teacher in contrast with suffering a losing record? What was the last school to do that? Valdosta? Look at the recent AJC stories and the extent to which parents go to ensure what great athletic facilities their high schools have while science and mathematics education in the U.S. in general and the south in particular fall behind virtually every Western country and several Asian ones as well. No other country in the world follows these practices and for good reason. Again, priorities are inverted when educational institutions are subordinated to the misplaced enthusiasm of boosters and football fans, who in the case of universities often never even attended them and whose concern doesn’t go beyond whether they defeat their main rivals.

You seemed to have missed the point entirely that universities are non-profit institutions which are concerned with teaching and research and the measure of whether a department or university is successful in this is not a matter of “how much revenue it brings.” However, engineering and medical schools often bring quite a bit of money to their universities through grants and patents as was the case with Emory early this year. But no one would evaluate the success of a medical or engineering school by that criterion, any more than one would judge the quality and success of a philosophy department in such a manner.

I am not in left field, but at the core of what universities are about. I have seen academic programs at UGA go begging for scholarship money for doctoral candidates while the semi-literate athletes are treated like kings. Do you believe that this is justified? Go back to earlier articles in this newspaper and look at the graduation rates of football and basketball players at UGA. How many nationwide scandals have attended these sports programs at UGA since Dooley’s tenure? The Jan Kemp firing which cost the university a legal settlement of several million dollars and the embarrassing revelation that many of UGA’s players couldn’t read the billboard signs on campus is my favorite. Or more recently the test by the son of the fired basketball coach which asked “how many points are there in a three point shot?” Jim Donnan, who had much higher graduation rates than Richt, was fired. What mattered more, having students graduate or beating Florida? Does this nonsense have anything to do with higher education? No.

If you take the time to read any of the several books derived from studies which have examined the impact of sports on universities from an economic standpoint you will find that only a handful of universities come out ahead. Derek Bok, The former president of Harvard, wrote a book which addressed these issues entitled Universities in the Marketplace: The Commercialization of Higher Education. You might read it to learn how the mission of higher education has been undermined and compromised by the exclusive focus on money which you seem to believe is the criterion for evaluating and justifying any practice.

Finally, I would like to quote a line from an article written by the president of Amherst and published in the Atlantic Monthly back in 1922.

“Surely we are not in the business of making profits from the games of our students. Nor are we willing that they should be in that business either. But in some way or other we have gotten into that business, have built our fields and used them for extracting all the money which the traffic will bear.”

How remarkably little people have learned since that time.

By G'Vegas Dawg

December 13, 2006 10:45 PM | Link to this

PeeQuad - I too am a teacher and I too have a higher education than most football coaches in the high school ranks. However, I totally disagree with your point of view. EVERY SINGLE principal and most assistant principals that I have worked for have had a background that contains coaching football. Actually, every male AP or principal that I have worked for all have football coaching backgrounds. The point of my argument is, if you can handle coaching something as important/complex as a football team, then you can pretty much run anything. The fact of the mater is, that sports couldn’t survive without academics, and academics wouldn’t survive without sports.

By Pequod

December 13, 2006 11:40 PM | Link to this

G’Vegas,

No, academics does not require sports as the rest of the world knows. It is just this culture which has built this absurd relationship to the detriment of academic life.

Football is not complex nor important and the promotion of football coaches to principal positions is only another manifestation of the undue stress which is placed upon sports in the culture. This is the same sort of mistake that the political illiterate Vince Dooley almost made when he thought that being a coach qualified him to run for the Senate. I can run a football team therefore I can make political decisions.

I can also see that the literary reference I chose as a handle is wasted on you in your vulgar response. (And no, I am not a English prof but work in another discipline.) Similarly, with rational argument.

I feel sorry for your employees who have to suffer the irrational judgments of such a pompous and ignorant person. Fortunately, I don’t have to. I walked circles around the both of you today and could do so until the cows come home. But football bears an interesting resemblance to religious belief with most people. Most people can’t defend either of them and they can’t give either up.

By Alabama Dog

December 14, 2006 06:14 AM | Link to this

As a resident of the stste of Alabama, there is absolutely NO WAY that I would accept the head coaching position at Alabama. It’s career suicide!! Just ask Bill Curry and Fran; they saw the handwriting on the wall. It’s pretty much a mandate here- BEAT AUBURN OR ELSE!!!!!

By auburn gent '76

December 14, 2006 07:49 AM | Link to this

UA firing of Shula was a disgrace! Alliances aside, he was what bama need: alumn, appearance of honesty; to “clean up” the program. It is not his fault that he had to learn on the job, while assuming a troubled program with only a few months to prepare for a football season, and the NCAA just waiting to put your program on the death watch. I love to beat UA, but I don’t like to see them self destruct. That takes the fun out of beating them. Don’t be fooled, Shug and Bear number one priority was winning, but the integrity of their programs was a close second.

By G'Vegas Dawg

December 14, 2006 09:53 AM | Link to this

PeeQuod - Congratulations on being a literary genius. Any yahoo can get on the internet and look up a fancy bloging name. Fortunatly your opinion is the minority, not of the majority so all of us bumbling redneck football fans/players/coaches will continue to enjoy ourselves at the expense of the fine academic institutions of America. Merry Christmas.

By Pequod

December 14, 2006 01:32 PM | Link to this

G’Vegas,

The difference between us is that I read the book and drew the reference from it and it is you who has to look it up on the Internet.

The second difference is that you are unable to give an argument so you resort to appeals to popularity (a fallacy, look it up) and ad hominem abuse (another fallacy you can look up as well.)

Grow up sport and leave the school system for the benefit of our students.

By War Eagle

December 14, 2006 03:45 PM | Link to this

Pequod, “political illiterate Vince Dooley” has a BS in History and MA in Political Science and was a Honor Student at Auburn. His intellect is same level as a majority of UGA and Auburn professors and instructors.Did you know one of the winningest football coach in America has a PHD in Science and serving his third or fourth term in Congress?Tom Osbourn, University of Nebraska. Why does Yale, Harvard and Ivy league school have the oldest tradition in college football and still play every Saturday in the Fall…Your point is NIL AND VOID AS vEGAS SAID, you are in a liberal minority.

By Geoge C. Wallace

December 14, 2006 03:56 PM | Link to this

Just as I stood in the college-house door—so should Mike Shula of Bama be fired. What do you expect from us in Alabama?

By AUBUAMA

December 14, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this

What do you expect from anybody in the State of Redneck Alabama—Auburn Tigers and Crimson Tide both pitiful-Tech Fan!

By "Sweet Home what?"

December 14, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this

AUBURAMA—now that is such a low but TRUE blow to our embarassing neighbor to the west. Way to go Techie—AUBURAMA—fitting for both hickvilles!

By HeeHaw

December 14, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this

Has anybody from Atlanta ever been to that little peehole called Burmingham?

By Alabama Dog

December 14, 2006 08:13 PM | Link to this

To HeeHaw: I live in Birmingham. What is your problem with the city? Or have you never been there? Where’s your home-in a cardboard box underneath a interstate overpass in Notlanta?

By War Eagle

December 14, 2006 08:55 PM | Link to this

Hey Tech fan, you are probably a high school drop-out, so this might not mean anything to you, but Auburn has produced more NASA officals and astronauts than Tech…you remind me of a friend in Destin Florida, every year after the BCS championship game, he goes and buys a bumper sticker whoever win the NC and keeps it on his car until next BCS game, in other words, you are full-of-it!! good luck in the Toliet Bowl

By Hee Haw

December 14, 2006 10:23 PM | Link to this

HEY ALABAMA DOG—why do you read our AJC paper then and not your pitiful Bham NEWS-hehe- as you sit alongside Scrusy Interstate in Ensley near Bham Southern in your tire on the side of that unbelievably bad highway 59-20—you combine em over there in Burmingham don’t you? May Vulcan’s * spew ** all over your Crimson Tide War Eagles both and that mayor too! What a joke your little suburb of Atlanta is!

By Tech Fan

December 14, 2006 10:31 PM | Link to this

Hey WAR EAGLE—don’t they teach you to sell over at Auburama—that is T-O-I-L-E-T Bowl that Auburn and Alabama play each year at Legion Field or whatever in Birmingham—the Johannesburg of the South!

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