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UGA 14th in USA Today poll

The only preaseason poll that has BCS implications has been released, and Georgia is the No. 14 pick of the coaches who voted.

Ohio State is No. 1, and even lowly Duke, which was 1-10 last season, got the vote of Steve Spurrier, who continues to show loyalty to the first college program to give him a head coaching job.

What do you think about the rankings overall, and Georgia’s in particular? About Georgia Tech receiving votes? If you’re a Jackets’ fan, are you more excited knowing Notre Dame will be ranked No. 3 when it visits Sept. 2 in the season opener?

Or are you just feeling goose bumps in this suffocating weather knowing that college football season is just around the corner?

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By mcdwag

August 4, 2006 12:50 PM | Link to this

looks like Texas has another conference cake walk since the Big 2 (i mean the Big 12) just took a hit with the OU situation-i lke the dwags exactly where they are but can’t slip up against south carolina-

By Elroy

August 4, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

I believe 14 is way too high for the pups.

Being in a really soft division (the East) benefitted them greatly last year. Georgia would have tied for third in the West. And now without a quarterback (sorry puppy fans, Stafford won’t be your Millenium version of Herschel’s freshman year), and so many defensive guys gone, you just don’t have a chance.

14 is way too high.

By jackets fan

August 4, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this

3 eh? That sounds about right. I think Auburn was #3 a couple years ago when Tech upset them. Miami was #3 last November when Tech beat them. I like the consistency of it. Pre-season rankings are really only important if you have a national title contender because where you start matters in whether you can make it to #1 or 2. As promising as Tech looks, we know they’d have to go undefeated and beat big teams pretty convincingly to even get into the conversation. So not being ranked is not a big deal at this point. Being ranked in December is what will mean something.

By uga_b

August 4, 2006 02:28 PM | Link to this

Elroy, you are an idiot. We destroyed LSU and beat Arkansas. We lost to Auburn by one point on a blown coverage by a safety with a concussion. Alabama hardly scared anybody offensively. I think you could argue, at best, second in the West heads up. But we won the East and beat the West’s offering in the championship like a steel drum.

I believe we shouldnt be behind Louisville or in the same breath as Michigan. I wish the media would support us even half as much as they support Florida. Either way, we will probably end up in the Top Ten, again, and start out 2008 ranked 13-16, again.

This is the same old polling bs with traditional powerhouses (ND, Michigan, Oklahoma) overranked and the continuation of rewarding people in easy conferences, cough cough USC. How the hell 7-5 teams start in the top ten while a team with top recruiting classes and returning starters at skill positions and four back-to-back ten win seasons and top ten finishes starts outside is beyond me. Thank God they dont rank Army on historical dominance.

By Joe

August 4, 2006 02:48 PM | Link to this

You’re right, uga_b. Anybody who doesn’t think UGA is the best team in the country must be an idiot! Plus, it’s a lot easier to ridicule other people than to engage in intelligent discussion…

By uga_b

August 4, 2006 03:03 PM | Link to this

The intelligence followed. The logic was flawed from the standpoint that UGA went 3-1 against the west and the one loss was by a point. No strong argument for them not doing well in the West.

Also the plethora of elite 11 qbs on our team is different from no qbs. We have a senior, a redshirt sophmore, redshirt freshman and a true freshman. Hardly young qb crisis mode. I think we also replaced a qb last year. QB turnover happens. By the way, USC, OU, and Texas are also looking for a new qb. LSU hasn’t chosen one. They are all ranked pretty high…

I don’t think UGA’s ranking is that far off. I have a problem with most of the others like Miami, Louisville, and FSU who were both unimpressive last year.

Thanks for playing Joe.

By uga_b

August 4, 2006 03:04 PM | Link to this

both=all

By BP

August 4, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

The defense may have lost a few players, but the talent on the defensive side of the ball is ridiculous. When we are in the dome in December winning another SEC title and building momentum for next years national championship run I would love to hear again how overated we are!!! Go dogs!!!

By Titus

August 4, 2006 03:23 PM | Link to this

How are schools like tOSU not on probation? The QB accepts cash, the Clarett situation, the basketball team, and bloodthirsty boosters, etc. etc.

Oh yea, the same reason Big Yellow, er UTutor never got a whiff of sanctions from the NCAA. What a joke…

By ColumbusBuckeye

August 4, 2006 04:06 PM | Link to this

Titus,

Obviously you really don’t know much of what your talking about. Their Basketball team did do a self imposed ban, which prevented them from being the the NCAA tourney in 2005. Troy Smith was suspended for the 2004 bowl game, and also for the opening game last season. In addition, he was benched for the beginning of the Texas game. This (benching) very well could have cost OSU a national title last season.

As for Clarett, the guy was plainly an idiot….and was suspended from the team. His infraction is no less different than what Oklahoma’s QB did.

Quit making blind statements when you, in all reality, have no knowledge of the issue that you discuss.

By Chief Broom

August 4, 2006 04:12 PM | Link to this

UGA should be ahead of Miami, Louisville, Cal and FL and even with LSU so 9 or 10 would be about right. I think its joke that Cal is even in the top 20 but I guess there are enough voters on the west coast to rate them highly only becasue they are a distant second to USC in the PAC 10. Notre Dame is again highly overrated but then they are every year. ND will end the year with 2 or 3 losses (but not to Tech) and will still be in the top 10 and go to a BCS Bowl.

By GTGreg

August 4, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this

Hey Mr. Buckeye, I suppose you’ve bought into the notion that OSU was so disappointed from the Texas game that they just didn’t show up to the PSU game. It’s pretty tough to back up your “benching Troy Smith cost us a NC” when you didn’t go undefeated in conference.

By ColumbusBuckeye

August 4, 2006 04:53 PM | Link to this

GT,

If you look back, there would have been only 1 undefeated team (USC). OSU would have gotten big computer points for beating Texas, and would have probably been higher (due to a tougher schedule, and a win over Michigan….who beat PSU)than any other one loss team.

By mcdwag

August 4, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this

i thought OSU was the best team at the end of the season-Vince Young would not have been running around on those linebackers-not a big fan of the Big Ten but got to tell it like it is

By Ft Worth Dawg

August 4, 2006 06:15 PM | Link to this

ACC teams in the Top Ten: Just one. SEC teams in the Top Ten: Three (and all of them ahead of the ACC’s best).

The more things change, the more things stay the same.

Go buy some Dawg clothes on Tax Free Weekend and pass them out to friends and family (tax free in Texas, too).

By top row dawg

August 4, 2006 07:03 PM | Link to this

8 SEC teams in top 30.

By northwestDawg

August 4, 2006 08:31 PM | Link to this

I think #14 is about right. Rivals.com has us at #13. When we get the QB.situation straight, get ALL of our “O” players back and make sure the “D” is jelling, then for sure we’ll start to win games. We may have to come from behind to win the SEC East and the Reptile/AU games will be bigger than ever. Losing to SC would put us at the bottm of the hill looking up. Hope that doesn’t happen.

By randy

August 4, 2006 10:33 PM | Link to this

what fool brings up georgia tech in this column! GT is over with! come to reality!

By randy

August 4, 2006 10:35 PM | Link to this

elroy, just watch the scoreboard!

By SamoanDawg

August 5, 2006 01:38 AM | Link to this

Elroy.. it’s obvious you don’t know jack. We’re loaded at every positions and we have the best coaching staffs in the nation! They will coach up all these heaps of talents we have. I’m not concerned about our QBs at all, we have the best coach who handles it pretty well. My only concern is our O-line, they must step up their game and be consistent through out-11 straight weeks.

ND is overrated.. their D is weak. Same as Cal, their D is weak too. They’ll probably lose their openers.

By BuLLdawg

August 5, 2006 04:38 AM | Link to this

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Cuff is exceptionally physical from his defensive back position and closes on the ball extremely well. He is a good open-field tackler and is dangerous with the ball in his hands on special teams.

Cuff picked Georgia over offers from Florida, Auburn and Ohio State.

At one point, Ohio State was his leader, as they recognize 4.35 speed in the 40-yard dash and how that would project in the Big 10, where there is no speed, with only a select few players with this real speed in the entire league.

So, Auburn’s troubled recruiting loses out on yet another player that they sought a 3-Star player.

By comparison, the Georgia Bulldogs’ recruiting machine continues to roll merrily along.

This is a guy with his Senior Year ahead of him to prove his worth as well, but he had scholarship offers from Florida State.

Alabama also has offered a scholarship to the speedster.

On a recruiting list about half over now, this is the first real speed committed this season to-date, as there is QB Logan Gray at 4.55 and LB Rennie Curran at 4.54, but this is CB Vance Cuff at 4.35 of Colquitt County.

If a coach could be broken down to just only decisions on the football field and what they call as plays and the decisions they then make on the field in the games, Tommy Tuberville would rank very highly as a “coach” for his recruiting has never come close to Coach Richt’s and he does very well judged with the caveat that you only want to discuss he on-the-field coaching up of poorly ranked recruiting by Coach Richt standards.

You could say the same about Virginia Tech’s Frank Beamer, and of course you could say the same about Steve Spurrier.

But, coaching is a lot more than just only game day decisions and how to coach up poor recruiting habits.

And, you have to by gracious consider what they different coaches do in terms of running their football programs, like Fulmer, like Ohio State’s Jim Tressel, like Oklahoma’s Bob Stoops, like Pete Carroll’s Southern California. Because, when you have a troubled program, as Auburn has today too, and as Florida State has been experiencing for some time now since the very day Coach Richt announced he was taking this gig here December 20, 2000 and leaving that gig, then it will cost you in recruiting.

You cannot coach or teach speed.

Thus, Ohio State scholarship offered (troubled program big-time in 17 arrests of Tressel), Auburn scholarship offered (troubled program in a huge off-season way with arrests, DUIs, reading course gate, and now a huge off-season headache of stone-walling it as not relevant to the football team – just Academics (of a college football team) – and this is the third recruit in a row committed to UGA that Tubs had offered a scholarship to ), Florida State (troubled program with huge drop off in nation esteem as Joe Papa and Booby Bowden try to out-live each other for the most wins in college football history 1-A), Alabama (which is just not back up to speed yet) and the troubled program of Virginia Tech’s Frank Beamer for nothing but off-field issues then on the field crucial losses.

So, put their names down and then choose one of them or Georgia’s Coach Richt ?

Uh, I’ll take Coach Richt with my 4.35 speed in the 40-yard dash.

Special Teams, Offense, Defensive Secondary, where does he project ?

Wherever he is put.

You can never have too much speed.

In fact, if you look back over the last now 6 recruiting classes, Prince Miller has a Nike 4.4 timed 40-yard dash as the 4-Star Number 18 Cornerback in the nation last year 2006 at two inches shorter than Vance but 15 more pounds than Vance Cuff (Vance has senior year to bulk up some and turn heads), Bryan Evans at 4.45 as the speedster of the 2005 recruiting class here as the Number 9 Cornerback in the nation as a 4-Star recruit too at the same height and weight as a senior as is Vance Cuff as a Junior today, Ramarcus Brown 2004 who is taller but less weight than Vance Cuff who is 4.4 as a 3-Star as Vance Cuff Number 23 Cornerback in the nation who has been played so much on Special Teams and figures to get significant PT this season, Demiko Goodman at 4.4 in 2004 too, Thomas Brown as a speedster in our 2004 class at 4.35 the same as Vance Cuff now before his senior season, and the only recruit timed faster in a 40-yard dash than Vance Cuff in AJ Bryant who has had several injuries and a position change from QB timed at 4.3 flat (This 2004 class of Ramarcus Brown, Thomas Brown, Demiko Goodman and AJ Bryant is one of the fastest classes in the nation; they were redshirted for the most part in 2004, played some last year and as a group these 4 speedsters are mostly redshirt sophomores this 2006 season who figure to have their most promising junior and senior seasons after this year. ), the 2003 Class of Coach Richt was also very impressive in speed led by Emerging Star Mikey Henderson at 4.35 the same as Vance Cuff and Thomas Brown, then 4.4 times of a host including Paul Oliver, Kregg Lumpkin, Sean Bailey, Marcus Howard and TJ Gartrell all at 4.4 and the 2002 Coach Richt Speedsters signed were DeMario Minter’s 4.37 time in the 40-yard dash and Tony Taylor’s 4.5 before his injury.

The one common thread then, looking at the 6 most recent recruiting classes of Coach Richt is that the speedsters as a group, are among our best football players by virtue of their speed, and that only 1 recruit signed by Coach Richt is faster than Vance Cuff.

That’s quite a statement Scout.com to make. I hear you.

I see the results of your timed speeds Scout.com at UGA.

You can name them on one finger Scout.com reports whom Coach Richt has brought here who have a faster time than Vance Cuff before his Senior Season.

Sorry about that Auburn, Ohio State, Florida, Alabama, Florida State and all the rest of you losers.

My glass is not half-empty, not when UGA is Number 14 in the Coaches Poll, voted on before the stuff hit the fan the day before yesterday at schools like Ohio State, Tennessee, and Oklahoma to name but a few who held out their bad news until their football team starts Fall Camp. Number 14 is great Coach Richt said and about where we should be, plus note if you will the teams ahead of us and all them playing each other. Win and half our gone.

Half of 14 are 7.

7 is a lovely place to be.

And, 7 are where we are if we win, as half play each other ahead of us.

We play teams who got votes in the Coaches Poll today too.

Somebody needs to tell Spurrier he is in the SEC, not ACC.

How embarrassing Duke yet again this season.

Rapists.

Carter Strickland states we have only 5 bodies on the OL the first two weeks. Against cupcake Western Kentucky and then a good coach with no where near the talent he had at Florida with his 77 NFL Draft Picks there in a short stint there before moving on from that **hype machine with no chompin’ arms since his departure – not once.

Let’s look at that, shall we ?

.61 Michael Turner 6’ 5’ 295 lbs. Redshirt Senior rated Top 30 in the nation by Scout.com at his position out of Brookwood High in 2002, so he is a Redshirt Senior who has several starts already and backs up Daniel Inman.

.72 Daniel Inman 6’ 7” 319 lbs. Redshirt Senior who misses 2 games we project to win large over, and has head on straight as a result, 2nd Team All-SEC last season and 1st Team All-SEC this season has Started 12 as a Frosh, 12 Starts as a Sophomore and 13 Starts last year as a Junior who will start 12 this season, giving up two starts to Michael Turner at Tackle who himself already has had several starts (2) or to Ken Shackleford who is even better than Michael Turner most probably.

That was a good recruiting class of OL in 2002 to have still 2 redshirted (Inman and Turner) from that 2002 class as Starters their Senior Year, both. One expected to be a huge high Draft Pick and one of the top 2 picks after this season, as it stands today.

Ken Shackleford is better than Michael Turner.

So, it is Ken Shackleford who gets Daniel Inman’s two Starts in 2 games we figure to wipe up in with this stud Ken Shackleford playing as the Starter and not Michael Turner, who would have been a great choice too there at Strong side Tackle.

.79 Ken Shackleford 6’ 5’ 315 lbs. Senior Strong side Tackle Starting 1st 2 games at ST, was ranked Number 88 on the OL in 2003 in the nation and has been a very solid player for UGA and therefore Ken Shackleford has also already been a Starter at UGA for Coach Richt before this, his Senior Year.

Neither Senior Shackleford nor Senior Nick Jones got to take a Redshirt Season, and as durable as they both have been, they have not been forced to take a Redshirt Season either. Where would UGA be today without Shackleford and Turner ? They are two key players on this entire team, like Number 28 and Number 29 of all the 85-man Scholarship Roster. Don’t sit there and try to tell me Shackleford and Turner are no damn good and big huge disappointment and mean nothing to us. You don’t know what it is they mean to this team, and I mean that.

.77 Zeb McKinzey 6’ 3” 285 lbs. is also a 2003 Recruit at OL ranked Number 13 in the nation, and although he has not had a Redshirt season, he is but a Junior this season. Zeb played in 10 games in 2004 and 12 games last year and is a two-year letterman going into this all important Junior Season. Junior and Senior Seasons is where every college football shines in their careers, and Zeb McKinzey was in everyone’s top 22 Offensive Linemen in the nation in 2003. He doesn’t have the size of some OL, but his guy is a Stud. Admired by everyone, he keeps his nose clean and plays well every game.

Fernando Velasco and Nick Jones both went to small-time High Schools Jefferson and Bowden and Coach Richt identified them as very solid SEC Offensive Linemen. Both figure hugely prominent this season and Fernando Velasco who was Redshirted, next season as well.

.70 Nick Jones 6’ 3” 295 lbs. is the Starting Center this season a position he previously Started At and says it is like riding a bike. Nick Jones is a true Senior, always pitching in where needed and has been an unflappable workhorse on Coach Richt’s Offensive Lines which he puts great emphasis on for obvious reasons. Dependable, Nick Jones had 5 Starts as a True Frosh at Center, was moved to Strong side Guard in 2004 where he Started All 12 games and Started All 13 more games there last year in 2005. Now, he moves back to his natural position of Center, the original projected position before he turned in such Stellar Workhorse Solid Dependable Sturdy Starts every single game, missing none, pitching in where Coach Richt needed him to.

Do NOT try to even begin to think to tell me that UGA has an OL problem this season.

.75 Fernando Velasco Redshirt Junior this season 6’ 4” 315 lbs. has also been a Starter here at UGA on these 3 in a row Top 10 Football Teams with last season the Number 2 best offensive in the rugged SEC with so many tough defenses he has faced and come out the victor against. Velasco Started as a True Frosh and played in 12 games as a True Frosh instantly after Coach Richt signed him February 2003. We had little choice as you recall in 2003, unlike this 2006 Season of all these Proven Offensive Linemen at UGA of Coach Richt. Velasco also played in all 12 games in 2004. Just because we Redshirted him last season to have him for this season, does NOT mean that we don’t have a solid SEC Offensive Lineman on the team for 2006 this season. He is a **Proven SEC Performer. A lot more proven than is Brandon Bloody Cox of Auburn, the Number 9 Rivals’ QB 2002 when Joe Tereshinski III was the Number 10 Pro-Style QB of 2002 according to Rivals.

So, who is your Strong side Guard this season ?

So many like Fernando Velasco, previous Starter at the position redshirted last season or highly touted Zeb McKinzey who has battled back solid from his injuries ranked the Rivals’ Number 13 best OL in the entire nation in 2003 with Velasco, that position is interchangeable.

But, we have no OL 2006.

Such pure unadulterated BS.

You would not have a freaking clue, as you demonstrate daily with your posts on topics you neither have a clue about, nor are willing even to do the research on before you speak in public about that which you have no clue.

Nor, will you read that which is common knowledge to those who actually follow this hobby we share, one with research and the other who resents research as you resent education, fair play, free speech, or reading skills.

Let alone writing skills.

Lies.

Misrepresentations.

That’s all you offer this forum.

“Opinions?”

No sir. Lies.

Statements of facts, which are NOT FACTS.

Without research.

So far, in this post, I have discussed NOTHING but the 2002 and 2003 Signing Classes of Coach Richt, both of which were ranked the Number 1 Offensive Linemen Classes in the nation.

Let’s look at 2004 and the two studs we brought in, even though we had just had 2 of the previous 3 Number 1 Offensive Linemen Recruiting Classes in the nation, shall we ?

Guard? We have no damn Guards ?

.67 Chester Adams Big Cheese Starting Tight Guard 2006. True Junior. 6’ 4” 320 lbs. an absolute force at TG, Big Cheese was highly sought after in-state by Auburn and by Alabama. But, he signed his lot here with Coach Richt and not an Alabama Probation Prone Program. How fortuitous was that ? He has not been redshirted, because even with 2 of the 3 previous years’ Number 1 OL Classes in the nation according to Rivals signed by Coach Richt he could not be denied. Ranked by Rivals the Number 41 Best Offensive Lineman in the nation, which is very high, out of Luverne High School in Alabama, Big Cheese has shucked his small-time high school football for Big Time Success at UGA. Big Cheese showed so much promise right off the bat in practice, that he just had to hit the field. So, as a True Frosh he played 10 games two years ago and was NAMED 1ST TEAM ALL-SEC FRESHMAN TEAM. Last year, 2005, he played in All 13 games and is known for his pancake blocks and being The Big Cheese. This is a Big-Time Football Player on the OL from the state of Alabama, and that stinky little state is so poor at having such players that it is totally amazing he would cast his lot here. Now, he is the Starter. Never started before, but then again we had All-SEC Performers AHEAD OF HIM, and still he has been one of the UGA Favorite Football Players.

Where does The Big Cheese rank on this 85-man Scholarship Roster this season ? With what he has proven on the Field, he is an absolute LOCK for All-SEC recognition this season **and next season at GUARD. When I look at players and what they actually have done at their positions going into this season, taking into account durability (injuries therefore), Thomas Brown would be our Number 1 Star before the Season, Mohamed Massaquoi would be way up there high, Quentin Moses would be right up there at the Top too, Martrez Milner would be up in the Top Select Few, Daniel Inman would be, Nick Jones would be, Charles Johnson on Defense would be, Paul Oliver would be, Tra Battle would be, both punter Gordon Ely-Kelso would be and kicker Brandon Coutu would be, Jarvis Jackson is way up there at the Top, because of what we do know about Kade Weston and our needs to improve at Number 52 against the Rush he would figure highly this season too, Brandon Miller moved to LB would appear set to have a Stellar Season, Tony Taylor if he is fully recovered who ALREADY HAS TWO SEC CHAMPIONSHIPS AND IS SHOOTING FOR HIS 3RD HERE would figure very highly, DE Charles Johnson would be right up there, there could be mention of Jeff Owens at DT too, and I would slot in The Big Cheese in this group of Proven SEC Performers in my eyes for Stellar 2006 Seasons, and put him for example above even budding Stars such as FS Antavious Coates, CB Asher Allen, CB Bryan Evans, but probably short of FS CJ Byrd. In fact, I would put The Big Cheese as More Important than Thomas Flowers this year too, because of Thomas Flowers’ 13 percent of his punts dropped, including against Auburn.

So, where does that put The Big Cheese today on this squad already for this up-coming season BEFORE HE GETS HIS FIRST START?

I see The Big Cheese are our 14th Most Important Football Player on this Team 2006, therefore in detail before he even starts his 1st game. We know exactly what he brings to the table (or takes from it.)

Don’t bring that weak BS that we have no Guard to me.

Just because he has never started.

College Sports are 4 years of playing (normally one redshirted) and then BRING IN A NEW GROUP OF STARTERS.

I am NOT confused by that, and look at the details.

Besides The Big Cheese in 2004, Coach Richt also signed Seth Watts whom he did promptly Redshirt. Don’t read into that that he was not as good as The Big Cheese has LONG SINCE PROVEN in the SEC.

.76 Seth Watts 6’ 4” 313 lbs. Redshirt Sophomore Offensive Guard Where The Big Cheese was the Number 41 OL in 2004 Scout.com, Seth Watts was actually Number 25 in the nation on the OL 2004 with The Big Cheese. Seth Watts played 3 games as Redshirt Freshman last year and did well after being a consensus Top 31 Offensive Lineman in the nation. A 4-Star Scout.com Recruit Seth Watts has a promising career ahead of him but because he was redshirted and The Big Cheese was NOT, Seth is not the Starter at Guard this season and The Big Cheese is. Does this mean that UGA has no backup for The Big Cheese or NO Offensive Guard? Certainly not. Come back in here next year after he has played 14 games this season as The Big Cheese’s backup Tight Guard Number 2 on the Depth Chart and certain to get 35-40 percent of the snaps this season at TG, and tell me where we stand at this Strong Position next season. I am here to discuss this season and Seth Watts has played but 3 games as a Redshirt Frosh last year. You, nor I, nor Coach Richt, nor Cater Strickland knows exactly all there is to know yet about Seth Watts. His entire career is ahead of him. Will he be All-SEC as he projected when he is but a Redshirt Frosh last year playing 3 games ? I don’t know, and I damn sure know you don’t.

I am ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN HOWEVER, that our Tight Guard is as SOLID AS ANY IN THE SEC THIS SEASON.

That’s what I know. What do YOU KNOW?

Nothing.

That’s what you know.

We have NO OL THIS 2006 SEASON.

BS.

Ok, backup Center Ian Smith was our Only OL Recruit Signed last year, and ok he is out the 1st two games. I do not condone that or Daniel Inman’s suspensions. Is Ian Smith another Daniel Inman ? I certainly HOPE SO.

.64 Ian Smith 6’4” 295 lbs. redshirted last season, you have no bloody clue about Ian Smith to sit there and say he isn’t any good either. He is listed Number 2 on the Depth Chart, will play in 12 games this season as a Redshirt Freshman, and could be your Center for the next 4 years, 3 for certain after this one, if all goes well for him – which is what I hope. He does have Daniel Inman Senior this season to look up to, as example, doesn’t he ? *4-Star Number 36 Best Offensive Lineman in the nation last year in the 2005 Signing Class, he might have opened the door for this season’s Center Recruit Kevin Perez to not be redshirted. This is bad for Ian Smith, there is no doubt. *Michael Turner will not be able to play Center the 1st two games as Ian Smith’s backup, because he is projected to take Daniel Inman’s Tight Tackle position this year. And, this makes Tackle a problem.

When you have both a backup Center Number 2 on the Depth Chart and no one but him to play unless you unredshirt Kevin Perez, who dearly needs a Redshirt Season this year, as Durable Starter Nick Jones’ backup AND lose your starting Tight Tackle for the same 2 games for obvious reasons both of them, this is a problem. But, for heavens’ sake, we have no options for those 2 games but play.** So, let’s come in here and whine.

BS.

You lose Nick Jones, you are in a serious problem.

You lose Michael Turner, you are in a serious problem, where Inman as NOTED ABOVE in this post is the backup Tight Tackle to Starter Ken Shackleford, or lose Ken Shackleford either, you are in serious situations all 3.

You see what the problem is? Now, I hope you do.

Last season, this is all we signed, Ian Smith on the OL.

And, Seth Watts is all we signed the class the year before just only Ian Smith because we could not and did not Redshirt The Big Cheese.

Now, last season, frankly the OL class is not up to what it should have been either.

Certainly not what 2002 and 2003 were.

So, in fact, we have VERY GREAT OFFENSIVE LINEMEN AS JUNIORS THIS SEASON AND AS SENIORS THIS SEASON.

We just have only Ian Smith and Seth Watts since.

Figure it out.

We will be great on the OL this season, but we have two games to-date we know about when the depth is missing at both of those two positions.

That is an opportunity for yet our next Nick Jones and our next Fernando Velasco to step in in the 1st two games and establish themselves.

Because we have no option.

Kevin Perez as noted, Chris Davis, Josh Davis, and John Miller – which 2 will it be this season to be in fact our next Nick Jones and Fernando Velasco?

If you look at the Depth Chart, it is only just Kevin Perez.

That won’t get it the 1st two games.

Need a Tackle.

Not a guard.

The only Guards to move to Tackle for the 1st two games appear to be best option Zeb McKinzey, Fernando Velasco or Seth Watts, and maybe McKinzey AND either Velasco or Watts, leaving the other at Guard for the first two games against teams we beat with any of the 3 at Tackle.

I’m NOT WORRIED therefore, because I have thought it through, but I would like to get back to a recruiting class like 2002 or 2003 at on the OL. Even 2004, but preferably 2002 or 2003. Because since, we have NOT HAD WHAT WE DESERVE.

I have no idea what makes OL walk-ons go somewhere else, or why in fact the last 3 OL recruiting classes fall so short of what is obviously needed here by an Elite Football Program.

But, it is just an opportunity for more Nick Jones’ and Fernando Velasco’s to step up.

Who is our next Nick Jones or Fernando Velasco besides Kevin Perez ?

Is it Chris Davis, who is really a Center, or John Miller ?

We have got some bodies to choose from on the OL Signing Class 2006, as February was not a bust on the OL for us.

Who can step up ?

It certainly cannot be a Defensive Tackle we could move over, so it must be yet another in a long line of UGA True Frosh Offensive Linemen Signees just signed February who gets in there for the Team.

What’s the story on Kiante Tripp, Number 14 Ranked Nationally Offensive Lineman 4-Star Westlake ?

You’ll sit here and discuss in general terms what we ain’t got and never discuss what our options are, because you are too lazy to and don’t give a crap to find out.

What do I think AJ-C ? Don’t ask me. I might tell you.

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By BuLLdawg

August 5, 2006 05:44 AM | Link to this

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So, that is not 5 bodies on the OL, but 8 proven here at UGA SEC Linemen.

I am asking for 2 to step up from Frosh 2006 Signing Class February to have the minimum 10, both of the 2 to play backup roles in games 1 and 2.

I hardly think 5 bodies is correct Carter Strickland this morning as stated.

And, we already promise to have the Number 1 Offensive Linemen Class in America again for the 3rd time in Coach Richt’s short tenure here this recruiting season February 2007.

I’m not worried about the OL the fist two games absolutely and find the 8 we do know about to be sufficient, barring injuries, thereafter this season.

Guaranteeing 6-0 Start with whomever of 4 top 10 Rivals’ Pro-Style QB, Coach Richt Starts.

Poor guy, he has no QB and no OL for 2006.

Yeah, I really feel sorry for Coach Richt.

Now, DT is a different story. (While you post of DL like there is such a position ) lumping or trying to, DEs with DTs.

Excuse me a DE is not a DT.

And, I think the AP will read differently, with the latest news taken into account.

For Stoops has no option at QB, Southern Cal has nothing but issues at QB and RB and those are issues - not UGA has no QB or OL.

You will find the 8 OL listed in the post with their jersey number first, then the facts found on Rivals, Scout.com, Official Coach Richt Depth Chart and average recruiting position from Phil Steele’s average of all recruiting service rankings of each player in the nation.

OL is hardly a problem unless injuries hit at OT. Even then, 3 OG could be moved to OT.

OG and OT are far more able to play one or the other than are DEs able to play DT, which is more akin to saying a TE could play OL, which only Michael Turner has successfully done.

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By BuLLdawg

August 5, 2006 06:05 AM | Link to this

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It won’t be a NC next year because of OL and DT, unless 2007 Signings include OL and DT who play lights out game 1 in 2007. That could happen, but right now we certainly appear to have the Number 1 OL Signing Class February 2007 long since wrapped up.

DT ?

Don’t see one or even one who resembles a DT.

Yet.

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=9&c=8&yr=2007

Rodney Garner had better get going on DT for February 2007.

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By BuLLdawg

August 5, 2006 06:17 AM | Link to this

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Titus

Fulmer did get huge Sanctions from the NCAA including several lost scholarships and important key dates Fulmer was not allowed to go on the recruiting trail for two entire months too.

Not a Major NCAA infraction database agreed.

But, not a whiff would be totally wrong. Look at his recruiting rankings those years of lost scholarships to offer ?

Why are the vols an after thought ?

He tied up too many at QB and RB promised to start, only to have none of either, and he suffered across the board especially then with the NCAA Lost Scholarships thrown in for good measure.

Anyway, Fulmer is getting his handed to him.

3 years of the last 6, Fulmer has not been ranked AT ALL.

I still say Fulmer is fired after the season.

NCAA gave him lost scholarships and lost recruiting trips by Fulmer.

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By nobull

August 5, 2006 07:29 AM | Link to this

Hey BuLL, speed = WV!

By BuLLdawg

August 5, 2006 07:44 AM | Link to this

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By ColumbusBuckeye

August 4, 2006 04:06 PM

QUOTE

”Titus,”

”Obviously you really don’t know much of what your [SIC] [WOULDN’T IT BE YOU’RE?] talking about. Their Basketball team did do a self imposed ban, which prevented them from being IN the NCAA tourney in 2005. Troy Smith was suspended for the 2004 bowl game, and also for the opening game last season. In addition, he was benched for the beginning of the Texas game. This (benching) very well could have cost OSU a national title last season.”

”As for Clarett, the guy was plainly an idiot….and was suspended from the team. His infraction is no less different than what Oklahoma’s QB did.”

”Quit making blind statements when you, in all reality, have no knowledge of the issue that you discuss.”

END QUOTE

BS.

“self imposed ban” BS. The NCAA has Ohio State ON PROBATION in men’s basketball for your Coach paying a recruit $6,000 cash which you had to pay for anyway as Coach O’Brien $2.2 million according to the Judge yesterday because you wrote a contract that allowed your men’s basketball coach to play a recruit $6,000 cash and not be fired over. That ain’t self-imposed. It is PROBATION.

Troy Smith is a JOKE.

“Could have cost Ohio State the national championship in 2005” ???

Did you forget the BEATING PUT ON OHIO STATE BY JOE PAPA?

No. But, you bring your weak BS in here to discuss because of our feed nationwide where you saw we spoke of Ohio State and your lousy Athletics Department.

Maurice Clarett is nothing like Oklahoma’s QB Rhett Bomar and roommate Starting Offensive Linemen, as Oklahoma has no option at QB and their OL was already the worst in the Midwest. You guys for years tried to cover up Maurice Clarett.

Quit DUCKING or trying to ColumbusBuckeye the 17 arrests of Jim Tressel’s players in his firs 5 years there as Coach Richt has been here.

2002 Ohio State won the National Championship for the 1st time since louse WOODY HAYES did in 1968. It took a BLOWN CALL BY THE OFFICIALS AGAINST MIAMI, AS THE ENTIRE KNOWN WORLD KNOWS for that one.

And, Woody Hayes was booted from College Football for his beatings in public of college football players, you neatly also want to forget.

You have a LOSING RECORD TO UGA having NEVER BEATEN US. Yet, we finished 3rd in 2002.

In 2001, Coach Richt was ranked in the Final AP Poll (UGA has been 9 consecutive previous seasons now.) and Ohio State was not ranked with Jim Tressel.

In 2002, the wrong call made you 1 and us 3, instead of the other way around with us 2 and you 3.

In 2003, Tressel was Number 4 and Coach Richt Number 7.

In 2004, Tressel was Number 20 and Coach Richt Number 7.

In 2005, Tressel was Number 4 and Coach Richt Number 10.

Tressel’s 5 years of Not Ranked, 1, 4, 20 and 4 is no where near as good as Coach Richt’s 5 of 22, 3, 7, 7 and 10. Coach Richt has averaged a Final AP Poll ranking of Number 9 in the nation and 4 Consecutive Top 10 Final AP Poll Rankings while Tressel has NO AVERAGE FINAL AP POLL FINISH AT ALL because he went unranked.

If you threw out their first seasons, which I am not about to concede even then the last 4 Coach Richt has averaged a Final AP Poll Ranking of Number 7 over the last 4 seasons all 4 Top 10 while Tressel is averaging the last 4 seasons alone worse than Coach Richt in the Final AP Polls.

And, to even get to that, you have to throw out Jim Tressel’s UNranked year 2001.

It is what it is.

http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/pastAPPolls.htm

In the meantime, Jim Tressel is 2nd in the nation behind only Miami Hurricanes Larry Coker with Tressel’s 17 legal issues.

**”THE REAL OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY:” http://www.geocities.com/godj416/Cheaters.html

Here is your Major Infractions Database for FOOTBALL MARCH 10, 2006 THIS YEAR:

https://goomer.ncaa.org/wdbctx/LSDBi/LSDBI.home

Do you SEE FOOTBALL 10MAR06.

I certainly do.

You have 49 in the NFL and UGA has 50:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/college?letter=o

In the Directors’ Cup All-Sports Trophy, UGA is Number 9 and Ohio State University Number 13:

http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/nacda/sports/directorscup/auto_pdf/0506D1FinalStand.pdf

This being Year 10 of 10 Year Analysis UGA finds but 2 football programs in all of America better than our 87-26, and Ohio State University is NOT ONE OF THEM.

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1997&end=2005&rpct=1&min=1&ss=on&se=on&c1a=on&pt=on&by=Wins

.Ohio State 85-27.

.UGA 87-26.

More Wins fewer losses.

Higher Average Rankings

FEWER ARRESTS

No Maurice Clarett at UGA as on your Football “national championship CHEATING team” ranked 2 places higher than us anyway.

Should have been one worse, but for the bad call against Miami to give you the win we all saw you did NOT WIN on the field.

IN THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL OF ALL BCS “MNC.”

This is now the URL Link for your NCAA Sanctions in LOST SCHOLARSHIPS FROM THE NCAA AS MANDATED BY THE APR:

http://web1.ncaa.org/appdata/apr2005/5182005_apr.pdf

925 this URL Link of the NCAA shows for Ohio Bloody State University, well below the acceptable minimum of 929 and THUS LOST SCHOLARSHIPS ARE MANDATED TO THE OSU BY THE NCAA.

Georgia at this URL Link is 950, well above the minimum acceptable and in fact 80th Percentile compared to OSU in the 40th Percentile in the nation in Academic Progress Rates. Is this the first you have heard of this too?

http://web1.ncaa.org/appdata/apr2005/2572005_apr.pdf

In attendance, OSU is Number 3 and UGA Number 5:

http://www.ncaa.org/stats/football/attendance/2005/2005footballattendance.pdf

Ohio State University has a LOSING RECORD IN BOWL GAMES 18-19

UGA has a HUGE WINNING RECORD IN BOWL GAMES AT instead 22-16-3.

Not only has UGA won 4 more Bowl Games than OSU, lost 3 fewer bowl games than OSU, but UGA has also PLAYED IN 4 MORE BOWL GAMES THAN OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY.

.486 Ohio State Bowl Record “winning” excuse me ”LOSING BOWL RECORD PERCENTAGE.

UGA .573 Winning Percentage Bowl Record.

UGA is 10 percent higher winning percentage than Ohio State in Bowl Games.

This is partly because we BEAT OHIO STATE IN THE CITRUS BOWL January 1, 1993 when Ohio State University was 8-3-1.

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/opp-opp.pl?start=1869&end=2005&team1=Georgia&team2=Ohio+State

Average Recruiting Rankings Rivals the last 5 years, which with Redshirts, make up your team for Tressel and our team for Coach Richt?

http://uga.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?SID=878&Sport=1

Number 4 is UGA this 2006 Signing Date, and Ohio State is Number 12.

2005 is no different, UGA Number 10 and Ohio State BEHIND US AS YOU ARE IN EVERYTHING BUT ATTENDANCE BY TWO PLACES AT Number 12 again.

2004 UGA Coach Richt Number 6 and Tressel again worse than Coach Richt at Number 9.

2003 UGA Coach Richt Number 6 again, and Ohio State Jim Tressel Number 41.

URL Link to Number 41 in 2003, the last time Jim Tressel got so much bad press nationally as now his 17 legal arrests are: http://uga.rivals.com/teamrank.asp?Year=2003&Page=2&Type=0&Sort=0

By the way this is your Senior Class that was NOT REDSHIRTED.

Cough Choke LAO.

2002, UGA Number 3 and Ohio State Number 5.

Item : There is not one stinking year Jim Tressel has out-recruited Coach Richt.

2nd Item : For the 5 years both Coaches have competed on the national level against once another in recruiting (since Youngstown State doesn’t count.), Coach Richt at UGA averages the Number 5 Rivals Recruiting Rankings and Jim Tressel Averages the Number 16.

Jim Tressel is 3 times worse in recruiting than Coach Richt in their 5 years head-to-head, which is why Coach Richt has a better record, has been ranked higher in the AP Polls, has been ranked every year unlike Jim Tressel, gets better student-athletes who do better in class work, and why Coach Richt is not losing Scholarships as Ohio State is this year from the NCAA.

Now, address the issues you brought u which I have now put to rest, if you will wayward Buckeye Fan Lost in our Blog.

I would not want to be Ohio State University, if you paid me all the money in the world - much less $6,000 Head Coach Ohio State University O’Brien.

Nice free publicity there OSU yesterday.

Thanks for bringing it up.

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By BuLLdawg

August 5, 2006 08:00 AM | Link to this

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Correct nobull Speed does equal Wins.

It also nearly assures yourself great plays at UGA looking at in fact the 6 years’ worth of top speedsters each season brought in by Coach Richt.

4.35 Vance Cuff according to the Scout.com NIKE time : WOW !

1 better in all of Coach Richt’s 6 classes to date.

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By DecaturTechFan

August 5, 2006 10:50 AM | Link to this

Hey BuLLDookie, For God’s sake……GET A LIFE. THREE words….. Ther……..a……..py! There are crisis centers to call when the mutts lose @ least three this year. But dont worry…..God loves you. GO JACKETS!

By SignalMtnDawg

August 5, 2006 07:03 PM | Link to this

Wow…..War and Peace up there! To be realistic - Dawgs will be paying some dues to set up 2007 and 2008.

Being ranked 14 is good But I think we need to worry about SC beofre we worry about rankings. Our secondary has little game experience and offense will be conservative until QB situation works itself out. All of this plays into Spurriers hands. Dawgs seem to struggle in Columbia as this game is a huge rival to the Cocks. OUr rivals are AUB, FL, GT and Tech. Should be a bitter fight.

If we beat SC - we will be looking good all the way to the TN game.

Go Dawgs!

By Steve

August 5, 2006 11:09 PM | Link to this

So the Dogs are 14th in the preseason poll. Bigg fat woofin’ deal. The one that conts is the one at the END of the season, folks!

That aid, I do believe that the DOgs have every bit of the potential to finish in the top 10 and possibly the top 5 again.

That, and Coach Richt, PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE beat Florida this year!!!

Steve Redcoat Band, ‘77 - ‘79

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