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M.L. King RB Mack Brown gets praise from UGA coach Mark Richt
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M.L. King’s Mack Brown, who is considered one of the nation’s top tailbacks for 2010, said he smiled after hearing his evaluation from UGA coach Mark Richt.
“Coach Richt said ‘Mack, you’re a helluva’ back’ … I was laughing,” Brown said. “That meant a lot to me.”
Brown is one of the state’s leaders in early scholarship offers with 15, including Florida, Tennessee, and Georgia Tech. He also had a recent conversation with Tech coach Paul Johnson.
“Coach Johnson said he really wanted me to come visit the campus so we could talk,” Brown said.
Brown said he tentatively plans to visit UGA and Georgia Tech after school later this week, and then travel to South Carolina on Saturday. He is thinking about Tennessee on Feb. 28.
Landing a marquee tailback is one of UGA’s top priorities for its 2010 class. The Bulldogs only signed one tailback last week, ECI’s Washaun Ealey, who told the AJC last month he was “close to meeting college entrance requirements.” Georgia Tech already has one commitment at running back for next year, Charles Perkins of Collins Hill.
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By GT student
February 17, 2009 12:25 AM | Link to this
a running back??? hmm which school should he choose?? the choice is easy come to tech…speaking of choices look at Tashard doing work in the NFL.
By Technique
February 17, 2009 12:28 AM | Link to this
If you come to Tech, you’ll only have a great chance to lead the ACC in rushing, and be a leading candidate for offensive player of the year. Plus make all-acc first team.
By DeployedDawg
February 17, 2009 3:11 AM | Link to this
Tech has had some good running backs, but there is only one Running Back U in Georgia. Go Dawgs.
By heeldawg
February 17, 2009 4:50 AM | Link to this
Hmmmm….a running back??? Which school should he choose—an SEC school which had a first-team All-American at running back this year and which has put fourteen running backs overall into NFL uniforms over the last 25 years or an ACC school whose best running backs over the last quarter-century have either failed in pro football or who didn’t play in the pros at all? Georgia running backs have been All-Pro (Herschel Walker, Terrell Davis, Garrison Hearst). Super Bowl MVPs (Davis), Heisman trophy winners and/or runners-up (Walker and Hearst), All-Americans (Walker, Hearst, Worley, Moreno), etc.
Georgia plays in the country’s marquee football league. Tech plays in the country’s marquee basketball league. No one gets the two confused.
By SEC fan
February 17, 2009 7:19 AM | Link to this
Based upon ESPN News today (2-17-09), there will always be opportunities at UF. Just so the recruit doesn’t mind playing with thugs and felons.
ESPN: “Florida Gators offensive lineman Carl Johnson was arrested on Monday and charged with violating a domestic violence restraining order. Johnson, who will be a junior next season, is the fourth Florida player to be arrested in the past 10 months. Safety Jamar Hornsby was arrested on felony credit card fraud charges last May, cornerback Jacques Rickerson was arrested on felony battery charges last November, and quarterback Cam Newton was arrested on felony burglary charges last November.”
By Brian Jones TECH FAN
February 17, 2009 7:31 AM | Link to this
I am pretty level headed about which school to choose just refer to my stephen hill post where he may have been smart to choose UGA, but also fans of both teams dont get it twisted once tech gets the o line in place this offense will put up huge rushing and passing numbers. Uh running back U no walker doesnt make yall that and knowshow has to be one of the most overrated rbs i have seen in college lets see last year t choice outperformed knowshow this year dwyer and r jones outperformed knowshow. Is he talented yes is he soft yes will a team waste a draft pick on him yes. And he better not do the combine cause once teams see his 4 6 4 7 40 time his stock will drop. And by the way you dog fans are so funny talking about a fluke this is just the begining i in no way am as arrogant as these other tech fans but if you are a realistic college football fan and watched tech you know you have to be worried playing a cpj coached team not liek a gailey coached team. Like I have said before both fans need to enjoy this the rivalry is back and instead of 12 kickoff lets be 8 pm primetime college gameday will bring back some clean old fashioned hate
By dawgfan1911
February 17, 2009 7:36 AM | Link to this
I thought we were ok at the running back position. I think the Ealy kid may not qualify. The other guys have to prove themselves. I havent seen this guy run before so I will have to pull some video to see what the buzz is about with him. I can’t wait till spring ball!
By dap01
February 17, 2009 7:41 AM | Link to this
Look at the average attendance for each school for last year. UGA was DOUBLE Tech’s attendance. Actually Tech had a 5% drop from the previous year.
Not a hard decision.
By RealityYech
February 17, 2009 8:02 AM | Link to this
Hmmm….a running back? Which school should he choose? Easy, the school that’s put BY FAR more top notch RB’s in the show than the other, the University of Georgia. Sounds like he’s all Dawg. Once he sees for himself the pi$$poor facilities at Yech and finds out how much of a douchebag the hypocrite Saint Johnson is UGA will recruit itself. As though it doesn’t already. To play in front of 38,000 on a good weekend when they’re handing out free Playboys, in the worst football conference in the nation. Or to play in front of 94,000 on any given weekend in the best football conference in all the land. To get a real education in just about any field of study you’d desire, or to go to an engineering school with a liberal arts college and not even study in their speciality area like 98% of all Yech’s athletes. LOL, touch call!!!! :)
By lance
February 17, 2009 8:03 AM | Link to this
Techmites— Suggestion. Throw in some fries with your hotdog give-away this year and you may get another 100 fans. You then will be around the average attendance of Lowndes County HS.
By ZDog
February 17, 2009 9:06 AM | Link to this
I’m with Mr. Jones (Tech Fan) on some of his comments. Both schools have produced quite a few outstanding running backs. I disagree with most of the comments concerning Moreno , however. Knowshon has that rare ability to to see the field AND get to the seam. I actually would have loved to see him play in an offense like Tech’s, where he would have had ample opportunity to shine. I wish he had decided to stay at UGA one more year to see him run behind what should be a much improved o-line.
I do agree that Tech has some wins in their future under CPJ. He is an outstanding coach, and I look forward to some end-of-the-year, prime-time matchups!
And yes, I am that strange cat who graduated from Tech but has always been a big UGA fan. I hope Tech goes 13-1 next year, and UGA goes 14-0………….
By Frank
February 17, 2009 9:29 AM | Link to this
When you say you are that strange cat who graduated from Tech but always pulls for UGA, I suggest that you are not unique. I do know several people who graduated gt and pull for the Dawgs, however, I know no one who graduated UGA and pulls for the jackets.
By Larry
February 17, 2009 9:40 AM | Link to this
Hmm, leading the ACC in rushing is a joke. Its about as big an accomplishment as leading the Mountain West in rushing.
ACC has been a joke for the last 10 years.
Go to a real conference, Big 12 or SEC, where even finishing second or third in the conference means you are better then the top running back in the ACC.
By GT student
February 17, 2009 9:56 AM | Link to this
larry you are an idiot no matter what you say if someone leads their respective conference in rushing it is an accomplishment. Specifically the ACC…look at all the talent FSU, Miami and clemson have at RB….JD had 1300+ yards and that is alot considering how much our rushing chart was spread out. He is an amazing back and people are starting to recognize it such as the sporting news magazine….in which they predicted him leading the nation in rushing and stated he “has the potential to be the best RB in ACC history” and this is saying alot when you look at the backs that have come from Miami, and FSU.
By GT student
February 17, 2009 9:56 AM | Link to this
larry you are an idiot no matter what you say if someone leads their respective conference in rushing it is an accomplishment. Specifically the ACC…look at all the talent FSU, Miami and clemson have at RB….JD had 1300+ yards and that is alot considering how much our rushing chart was spread out. He is an amazing back and people are starting to recognize it such as the sporting news magazine….in which they predicted him leading the nation in rushing and stated he “has the potential to be the best RB in ACC history” and this is saying alot when you look at the backs that have come from Miami, and FSU.
By Glenn
February 17, 2009 9:58 AM | Link to this
For all of you debating the merits of whether UGA or GA Tech is the better option for High School running backs to be successful at the next level, I would suggest that we look at two highly recruited kids that came out at the same time a few years ago and see how they have fared.
First, we have Jonathan Dwyer, who signed with GA Tech. Jonathan was name ACC Player of the Year last year. Jonathan was just named as one of Rivals Ten Most Explosive Players. Jonathan was named the ONLY First Team All American Running Back by Pro Football Weekly, which bases their selections on players’ talent and draft value.
Now let’s look at Caleb King, who signed with UGA. Caleb took a red-shirt his first year on Campus at Georgia, so last year was his first opportunity to suit up. Caleb played sparingly and in one of the few games he was able to participate in, Caleb was yanked out because he missed a block. Why did Caleb miss the block? Caleb was never taught how during his red-shirt year by UGA’s Coaching Staff. Now Caleb is buried down UGA’s depth chart and will have to work his way back up.
These are facts that any running back, including Mack, can look at when they evaluate programs. They can also look at players that come out of red-shirt years and see how they perform, or are treated, to gauge how well the Coaching Staff can teach the players for on-the-field duties, whether it translates, and whether the Coaching Staff is patient with the players and/or continues to Coach/teach them.
All your insults, name calling, and lies don’t change facts.
By Dawg Fud
February 17, 2009 10:12 AM | Link to this
Mack, good luck to you. I am sure you will do well wherever you choose to enroll. You are lucky to have two great schools and D1 football programs to choose from in-state.
Dawgs and Jackets would love to have you, among numerous other schools.
GO DAWGS!
By bank walker
February 17, 2009 10:14 AM | Link to this
Dawgilicious
By EW
February 17, 2009 10:18 AM | Link to this
GT Student:
Lol, Tashard Choice came to GT because his mother was ill and she lived here so he came to be closer to her. Way to brag about being a last choice option. Speaking of options, why would any top tailback choose an option style offense over a pro style, get-you-ready-for-the-nfl offense. They wouldn’t. So realize that just like when CPJ was at Southern and at Navy, he will always have to win with lesser talent because he runs a gimmick offense and the top talent will always go to the best place to get ready for the nfl. And Glenn, your argument is idiotic. Caleb King compared to someone who started and had inflated stats because you have no passing game??? Dwyer vs. Knowshon, how about comparing apples to apples here?
By EW
February 17, 2009 10:23 AM | Link to this
GT Student:
Lol, Tashard Choice came to GT because his mother was ill and she lived here so he came to be closer to her. Way to brag about being a last choice option. Speaking of options, why would any top tailback choose an option style offense over a pro style, get-you-ready-for-the-nfl offense. They wouldn’t. So realize that just like when CPJ was at Southern and at Navy, he will always have to win with lesser talent because he runs a gimmick offense and the top talent will always go to the best place to get ready for the nfl. And Glenn, your argument is idiotic. Caleb King compared to someone who started and had inflated stats because you have no passing game??? Dwyer vs. Knowshon, how about comparing apples to apples here?
By ryan
February 17, 2009 10:25 AM | Link to this
This guy is a lock to Auburn. He wants to go to the real tailback U.
By AC in Boulder
February 17, 2009 10:33 AM | Link to this
Tech is a second tier program. They are barely a rival and last year was indeed a fluke. If you know anything about football you know Johnson’s gimmick offense has already seen it’s best days. Go back to your ugly campus and let the big boys handle the football.
By Dawg Fud
February 17, 2009 10:33 AM | Link to this
that’s why Auburn went to the spread, huh, ryan?
By Buddy El
February 17, 2009 10:36 AM | Link to this
Glenn: Why didn’t you compare Dwyer to Moreno instead of King? Dwyer will never again top his 2008 statistics.
By TheItalianDawg
February 17, 2009 10:36 AM | Link to this
of course Georgia is a better fit for him, I mean Georgia tech fans are so stupid they don’t understand that their offense is not a pro style, if you run the ball 68 times and throw for only 2 times it is clear you will have more rushing yards, but not necessarily a better RB. Running with the ball is just 50% of the RB duty, at GT it is the 100% duty, at Georgia the RB will block, receive and run with the ball which what the NFL is looking for.
By Dawg Fud
February 17, 2009 10:36 AM | Link to this
that’s why Auburn went to the spread, huh, ryan?
By RealityYech
February 17, 2009 10:41 AM | Link to this
GT student,
ACC defenses are a joke. So yes, bragging about a kid who plays in an offense that runs 95% the time going up against pi$$poor defenses every weekend isn’t making much of a case for him.
Glenn,
I know you’re not that stupid. Dwyer wasn’t forced to sit behind a first round draft pick, you goon.
So yes, Mack, or any kid, can use the fact UGA produces first round RB talent when they evaluate programs.
All your insults, name calling and lies don’t change facts
By LawDawg
February 17, 2009 10:43 AM | Link to this
Glenn,
I believe Moreno was redshirtted and became a pretty good back….wink,wink. And to any of you other Nerd clowns that think Knowshown was overrated….look at the stats and tell me again. “4.6, 4.7 40 time”? you obviously don’t know what you are talking about. Look at the numerous times KM outrun secondaries for long TD’s. Hell, I think I could run for 1000 yards in that slob, PJ, gimmickry offense at Nerdland!
By Wrecker1
February 17, 2009 10:46 AM | Link to this
EW, comparing Dwyer and King is a no-brainer b/c Dwyer started and led the league in rushing and was named the MVP of the conference while King sat and waited his time behind Moreno. So there is no comparison there, maybe there will be this year. Now if you want to compare Dwyer and Moreno that’s another story. Moreno rushed for a total of 5 yards more on many more carries playing for a balanced offense. Dwyer by your own admission played in an offense that everybody knew was going to run the ball so he didn’t have the threat of the pass to back opponents off the LOS. Dwyer or Moreno, I’d take either. Also plenty of top notch backs will play for an option team over an I formation team. Dwyer was a Parade All-American and he will be example one of what a good back can do in this system. I know, you’ll argue TECH wasn’t an option team when Dwyer got here which is correct but the point is he is showing what kind of stats can be accomplished. You may have heard of Eddie Lee Ivery, Greg Pruitt, Billy Sims - all big time backs that could have gone anywhere but chose option offenses.
By LawDawg
February 17, 2009 11:04 AM | Link to this
Wrecker,
The RB’s you named (Ivory, Pruitt, Sims) all played during the era of option offenses….80% of teams run some sort of option offense, including UGA. So what is your point?
By this guy
February 17, 2009 11:15 AM | Link to this
man i bet he doesn’t go to tech or uga
By mike
February 17, 2009 11:15 AM | Link to this
If you like beautiful girls, national exposure, a real college experience go to uga. If you do not like beautiful girls, do not not want national exposure and do not want a real college experience, go to tech, very simple.
By Terry
February 17, 2009 11:19 AM | Link to this
This Guy can play anywhere he wants hopefully it will be in Georgia,but he’s the one who will make that final decision not someone posting on a blog.
By Glenn
February 17, 2009 11:22 AM | Link to this
Buddy El, LawDawg, & RealityYech,
Jonathan had to sit behind Tashard Choice his Freshman year, just like Caleb did sat last year and part of the time this year at UGA with Moreno playing in front of him.
Dwyer got snaps last year at GA Tech rather than red-shirt because GA Tech made a commitment to play their best players and they thought he was their second best tailback last year and Jonathan was too good to keep off the field. This year, Jonathan has exploded.
All the Moreno situation has proved is that if you have talent at UGA, like he obviously had, you can still get buried deep in UGA’s depth chart and not get a chance to play until other tailbacks leave, and/or other ones keep getting hurt, and you finally get a chance to get on the field and show the Coaches what you can do.
I think you just helped make my point.
By Sam
February 17, 2009 11:44 AM | Link to this
By EW
February 17, 2009 10:23 AM | Link to this
GT Student:
Lol, Tashard Choice came to GT because his mother was ill and she lived here so he came to be closer to her. Way to brag about being a last choice option. Speaking of options, why would any top tailback choose an option style offense over a pro style, get-you-ready-for-the-nfl offense. They wouldn’t. So realize that just like when CPJ was at Southern and at Navy, he will always have to win with lesser talent because he runs a gimmick offense and the top talent will always go to the best place to get ready for the nfl. And Glenn, your argument is idiotic. Caleb King compared to someone who started and had inflated stats because you have no passing game??? Dwyer vs. Knowshon, how about comparing apples to apples here?
Good point EW. I’ll bet Dwyer will never be the first RB taken in the NFL draft either. No pass blocking skills, combined with scant utilization in NFL style pass offenses will cost him millions.
By Art
February 17, 2009 11:50 AM | Link to this
Billy Sims, Wrecker 1? Greg Pruitt? When they chose a school they all were running some type of option offense. But congrats on that spin though. You techmites sure have a pwerful thing for the past. But at least Billy Sims and Greg Pruitt didn’t wear leather helmets like they did in the bulk of the so called Tech “glory days”.
By Glenn
February 17, 2009 12:26 PM | Link to this
EW and Sam;
If either of you would have taken the time to follow my link to the Pro Football Weekly’s 2008 All-America team, you would have seen that Jonathan Dwyer was the ONLY running back in the Nation who was chosen as First Team All American, and you would have also discovered that this Team is selected by NFL EVALUATORS.
This INCLUDED Knowshon Moreno.
I guess that blows your other lame brain theories out of the water, too, huh?
By Wrecker1
February 17, 2009 1:44 PM | Link to this
Art and LawDog, you guys helped make my point. There were a lot teams (probably 50% or so) running some type of option offense in the ‘70’s but given the fact that the guys I named and others like them, who probably felt like they were NFL material, chose to play in option offenses instead of the standard I, is proof that good backs will choose to play in an offense that they feel will show case their talents. The arguement that backs don’t have to block in TECH’s offense is ignorant. Check the tape to see how many times TECH’s backs are laying the wood to Ugag’s LB’s and DB’s and then tell me they don’t block. Backs will also catch the ball in this offense since as you can easily see 2 backs are lined up 1 yard behind the line on every play. They may not catch as many but they will actually be running routes and not just catching swing passes and screens. Yes Art I did have to refer to the “past” since that was when the option was being run on a large scale. Kind of like you pups being stuck with the thoughts of a 7 game streak that is history now and all that matters is the last one.
By vandy
February 17, 2009 1:56 PM | Link to this
“Knowshon sucks”??????
Now I have heard it all. You Tech fans jumped the shark on that one. Let’s see….1400 yards, 17 TDs on 19 touches per game. Yeah, he’s terrible. LOL@U.
BTW, Dwyer is no slouch himself. Any of you out there claiming otherwise is an idiot.
That said, UGA has always had great backs so you Tech fans dont act like you’re the better choice for RB’s. That’s just rediculous.
By RealityYech
February 17, 2009 2:00 PM | Link to this
Glenn,
I’m not sure you’re fully informed of UGA’s recent running backs. We had two very good backs by the names of Kregg Lumpkin and Thomas Brown. Both of which would have been first rounds picks had they been able to remain healthy. So yes, I don’t fault Richt for redshirting Moreno. Lump and Brown both left at the same time, leaving the show for Knowshon last year. Moreno’s talent far exceeds Choice, by evidence of where he’ll be drafted. So obviously Moreno demanded the bulk of the carries last year. Especially when it was pretty clear this was the last season we’d have him. So I’m not entirely sure what point you think I’ve proven for you, since you’ve done everything you can to prove mine for me. Thanks again :)
By Glenn
February 17, 2009 2:49 PM | Link to this
RealityYech,
I’m fully aware of the stable of both teams’ backs. That’s precisely my point. I’m not sure why you can’t follow the logic.
The decision of who made the Pro Football Weekly All American Team is not one that I, nor any GA Tech fan came up with. It’s one that NFL Evaluators came up with.
It’s totally unbiased, and includes every player in the ENTIRE COUNTRY. It’s also totally unbiased, and includes every offensive “schemes” that ANY TEAM may be using.
Jonathan played last year, even though Tashard was the “featured” back. GA Tech didn’t red-shirt Dwyer and while Jonathan didn’t put up the same numbers as he did this year, they were still stellar based on the numbers of carries he managed (check his average yards per carry and number of TD’s from last year).
Jonathan was also “Coached” football fundamentals that showed more than just Running Back skills on the field. He is a devastating blocker and when he catches the ball out of the backfield, well, let’s just say he broke one pass for nearly 90 yards last year.
At UGA, very good running backs sit the pines, waiting for someone to get hurt, try to make it the pros, or leave the University through graduation or other reasons. While they have been waiting for an opportunity to play at UGA, they aren’t getting Coached so that when they finally get on the field, their only “skill set” is that of a running back, not a well rounded ball player; ergo Caleb King being pulled from the game last year when he missed a block.
This is also why Knowshon Moreno was rated as a lesser NFL prospect than Jonathan Dwyer by the NFL Evaluators, if you believe the Pro Football Weekly All American Team selections.
In other words, when Jonathan came to GA Tech, he was taught/Coached, and was then given an opportunity to play. On the other hand, when Caleb went to UGA, he wasn’t taught/Coached or given an opportunity to play early, and when he finally was given the chance, Caleb was pulled because he missed his blocking assignment. It wasn’t Caleb’s fault. It was UGA’s Coaches’ fault.
By TX Dawg
February 17, 2009 3:16 PM | Link to this
Glenn,
What ever you are smoking you need to puff puff and pass. How can you sit their and even try to compare a GT back to a UGA. I firmly believe that the level of competition and a far more superior conference is the reason young UGA backs don’t have so much success. It’s not the fact that they aren’t coached and prepared. It’s more of the fact you play with grown men in the SEC and not cheerleaders like in the ACC in regards to football.
By RealityYech
February 17, 2009 3:20 PM | Link to this
Glenn,
You just typed a lot to still not have a clue. I’ll type slow in hopes that it’ll make it easier for you.
King was redshirted because he had Lumpkin, Brown and Moreno (that’s 3 people) ahead of him. Dwyer played because he only had Choice that’s 1 person) ahead of him. The math speaks for itself. And as far as your spin about Dwyer being better than Moreno, I challenge you to show me one legit recruiting outlet that has Dwyer ahead of Knowshon. You won’t be able to provide a link because it doesn’t exsist. Thanks for the laugh!!!
By jacketbacker
February 17, 2009 4:32 PM | Link to this
didn’t the ” cheerleaders ” just beat the ” grown men”…..
45-42!!!!!!!
THWG
By DWYER VS MORENO
February 17, 2009 5:24 PM | Link to this
To compare the two… Dwyer averaged 7.0 yds/carry and 110 yds/game last year - Moreno averaged 5.6 yds/carry and 107 yds/game.
I would take Dwyer over Moreno any day - plus you don’t get the showboating and the WUSS factor (ie taking yourself out of the game).
P.S. The spin move doesn’t work in the NFL - Moreno will be a BUST!
By Technique
February 17, 2009 7:53 PM | Link to this
Yech there’s no recruiting evidence because Moreno and Dwyer were in different classes…….if you want to compare them on rivals, they were both ranked at #10, same…
By Cuz
February 17, 2009 8:40 PM | Link to this
The spin move does not work in the NFL, uh okay. Anyone heard of some back nicknamed LT. Seems to have worked pretty good for him till the injury.
One question that I actually do not know the answer. How many running backs in the NFL, starting, benchwarmers or retired, played for Coach Johnson. Heck, I am not doing that good with Coach Richt. Haynes, Musa, Ware uh still drawing a blank and need more help. The question is out there, can we get bipartisan answers?
By JM
February 17, 2009 9:44 PM | Link to this
Tech only gets second pickins in Georgia…
(actually make that 4th or 5th pickin’s because USC, FSU, and UF recruit Georgia better than Tech does.)
Tech never gets the top talent in the state… and that ain’t gonna change this year!
By Technique
February 17, 2009 9:45 PM | Link to this
Hey Cuz, the other Adrian Peterson played for CPJ at GSU.
By JM
February 17, 2009 9:46 PM | Link to this
Tech only gets second pickins in Georgia…
(actually make that 4th or 5th pickin’s because USC, FSU, and UF recruit Georgia better than Tech does.)
Tech never gets the top talent in the state… and that ain’t gonna change this year!
By kentjacket
February 17, 2009 10:34 PM | Link to this
I hear realityyech saying how terrible the ACC’s defenses are,then I turn it on ESPN and see 3 ACC defenders expected to be picked in the top 5 of the draft. Also,if I’m not mistaken, 2 of Techs top 3 offensive performances came against those always overrated SEC defenses. Whatever makes you feel better there reality.
By GT4Life
February 18, 2009 1:08 AM | Link to this
RealityYech has got to be the dumbest SOB to ever post on a blog. He argues that all ACC defenses are a joke. Then states how tough the SEC defenses are. Let’s do a little comparison of Dwyer and Moreno facing the opposing conferences defenses.
Against the “stout” SEC defenses, Dwyer gained 141yds on 9 carries against Miss St., 144yds on 20 carries against UGA and 68yds on 10 carries against LSU for an average of 118yds on 13 carries (9.1yds/carry) against the vaunted SEC defenses. His best rushing games came against the SEC - only the Duke game surpassed the SEC games Moreno on the other hand, never gained 100yds against the “weak” defenses of the ACC. Not because he was pulled because the Dawgs were blowing out their ACC opponents either. Moreno ran for 97yds on 17 carries against GaTech (much better than the year before when he ran for 62yds on 17 carries against the Jackets). He NEVER ran for 100 yds against the Jackets. His best rushing games came against the “stout” defenses of the SEC - so that’s something they have in common.” And before all the UGA apologist come back with the “we had a lot of injuries” argument, remember we had 16 frosh/sophs starting against UGA in the 1st year of an overhauled offense on the road. GAME, SET, MATCH!! Welcome to GaTech, Mr. Mack Brown.
By FL Dawg
February 18, 2009 1:32 AM | Link to this
Option or pro style offense doesn’t really matter as much at RB as it does QB. Both offenses require the RB to block, run and not fumble. It should be obvious that UGA has put out a number of good NFL backs over the years. Herschel, Worley, Henderson, Hearst, Hapmton, Davis, Musa, Veron Haynes and several others. Richt and Staff had something to do with a couple of these guys. In addition, Moreno should make a good NFL RB as well. So, it should be fairly easy to say any RB interested in playing in the NFL should consider UGA and put it high on his list. Tech has a good NFL RB in Choice. CPJ has a system that has worked in the past and should work at Tech. UGA fans should not think it is a Gimmick. I remember the same being said of Urban Myers offense and how it wouldn’t work in the SEC. As CPJ moves to better school his players will also improve. CPJ is a good choice and a RB can arguably include Tech on their list of schools to choose. The bottom line for the schools is that either one would be a good choice. Right now UGA has better history of putting RB’s into the NFL. Educationally speaking, let’s not full any of ourselves into believing one school is better than another. Both are respected Universities in their own right. UGA has a good law school, business shcool and host of other possibilities. UGA provides a broader choice of degrees than Tech. However, if Mack gets an engineering degree from Tech, that isn’t to shabby either.I want Mack makes the best decision for himself. I hope that decision is UGA. If he chooses GT, good luck to him, except on that Saturday after Thanksgiving.
By FL Dawg
February 18, 2009 1:46 AM | Link to this
GT4Life, MSstate isn’t exactly the top of SEC defenses. LSU as I recall, won fairly easily and the GT offense actually helped LSU run out the clock as they didn’t exactly move the ball down the field that fast and in actually helped LSU. Now I’m sure LSU would have prefferred to get the ball back a little quicker, but none the less it worked in their favor. As for the UGA game props to Dwyer, but UGA didn’t exactly have a top defense this past year for several reasons, one of which as you stated was the injuries. It also had to do with Coaching. Now if Dwyer had put those numbers against UF and Bama, then high props would be in order. I’m not saying he isn’t a good back, I just don’t think he played against the best defenses of the SEC in 2008. The jury is still out on exactly how good CPJ offense will be year in and year out. Opponents now have experienced it and will be able to better prepare for it. Likewise, Tech now has experience with the offensive scheme and should be able to better execute it. Time will tell how good it actually is. As for Mr. Browns decision check out my earlier post.
By RealityYech
February 18, 2009 9:28 AM | Link to this
LOL!!! Desperate Yechies always make for a good laugh!!! Trying to say Dwyer, who will at best be a 4th round pick when he goes, is better than a top 15 first round pick in Moreno!!! LOL!!!! The triple option is called a triple option for a reason you tools!!! You run 95% of the time. Moreno played in a prostyle, traditional offense which runs/pass 50/50. Dwyer wouldn’t have had a fraction of Monero’s numbers in that offense.
GT4life,
I love douchebag Yech fans like you because you illustrate to the world how stupid and uninformed the typical bandwagon Yech fan is.
Dwyer faced two of the worst SEC defenses this past year. We saw how great he was when he faced a decent SEC defense in LSU, didn’t we? :)
Moreno has only played in two games against the ACC, you fool. Both of which were Tech. He had a makeshift OL all season long stacked with freshmen and sophomores. The year before Moreno didn’t need to get over 100 yards since (as I blasted Glenn about) he split carries with Brown who had 139 yards. That same game Dywer had a whopping 2 yards!! LOL!!!!! And yes, the ACC defenses are weak, judging from their 2-9 record in BCS games and the fact they haven’t even flirted with a National Championship game. Unlike the SEC who has won it 3 years in a row, and the most out of any coference since realignment in ‘92.
Dang son!!!! How’s the chin feelin’ little fella? LOL!!!
NEXT!!
By Rational_thoughts
February 18, 2009 10:19 AM | Link to this
The whole point of a triple option/wing-t scheme is to allow mediocre backs to have substantial offensive output. The reason why CPJ used it at GSU and Navy was because he didn’t have the best athletes on his rosters. There is no serious comparison between Dwyer and Moreno. Dwyer is a fine back and is flourishing in Johnson’s system for the time being. But as someone stated above, he’s in an offense that runs well over 90% of the time.
Moreno was a one horse show last year with a depleted offensive line in front of him. His numbers are far more impressive when including those factors. In a TO you have no idea where the ball is going and you never run between the tackles. Dwyer doesn’t have half the talent of Moreno, or at least, he’s not in a system to prove that he does.
By 45>42
February 18, 2009 3:37 PM | Link to this
Still hurts, doesn’t it? RealityYech is a pathetic little girl ;)
By 38>3
February 18, 2009 4:01 PM | Link to this
Seriously…to a 5 loss SEC team in your own backyard?
By 45>42
February 18, 2009 4:10 PM | Link to this
Living vicariously through another team, pathetic ;)
By 38>3
February 19, 2009 2:09 PM | Link to this
Hasn’t Tech been doing that for nearly 20 years? yet they never even play UF, unlike UGA does with LSU, and wins :)