College recruiting

By hiveredtech

February 6, 2009 2:50 PM | Link to this

Can’t imagine anyone wanting their child to be mingling with a team that only has the NCAA minimum standard for academic performancement in order to gain entry…plus an average of 11 arrests per year the past two years.

Georgia Tech boasts the top GPA (3.39) for incoming football players of any public school in the ACC/SEC/Big 12/Big East conferences (private schools do not publish their numbers) coming into this year….as measured over the previous few years of released numbers.

UGA football players were ranked 30th out of the 35 schools in AJC’s numbers with a 2.77.

Thank you AJC for showing these numbers!

By CrimsonRedScarlett

February 6, 2009 2:52 PM | Link to this

Is there a list of similar situations at other SEC schools?

By RealityYech

February 6, 2009 2:54 PM | Link to this

Great job yet again Coach Richt. Love all these HIGH CHARACTER, WELL ROUNDED, STUDENT ATHLETES!!!

Nice to see there’s no rapists or drug Lords in this class. And if there were, we know they’d be off the team and campus within minutes. Not left continuing to play and terrorize the campus.

By flyin' dawg

February 6, 2009 3:12 PM | Link to this

hiveredtech- UGA has the highest GPA among athlete’s with the last name Jones who are not from out of state (3.32). See, I can pull numbers out of my @ss, too.

By Fletch

February 6, 2009 3:15 PM | Link to this

hiveredtech??…congratulations!!!…we’re all really impressed. Did those high GPA’s help you get your a* handed to you by LSU?

By Andy

February 6, 2009 3:17 PM | Link to this

Hiveredtech, your argument doesn’t make sense. So what if Tech has the highest GPA among incoming football players. UGA is providing a free education for a lot of athletes that normally would not have the chance to even attend college.

Let’s play devil’s advocate for a bit. Pretend for a moment, Hiveredtech, that you have a son that is a high school senior who also plays football. Your son has not lived up to mommy and daddy’s academic standards and has a 2.77 GPA. However, he is a good enough football player to have schools offering him football scholarships. Your son wants to stay close to home and wants to either play college ball at Tech or UGA. However, his GPA does not meet Tech’s entry standards and is not offered a scholarship. UGA, on the other hand would love to have Junior play for them and offers him a full scholarship. Your saying that you would turn down a free education for your kid becuase you would not want him “mingling” with a team that has the minimum NCAA standards for academic performance.

I’m looking forward to your response…

By hatenerds

February 6, 2009 3:18 PM | Link to this

Maybe the tri lambs at Tech are more selective. NERDS!

By andy

February 6, 2009 3:21 PM | Link to this

Hiveredtech, your argument doesn’t make sense. So what if Tech has the highest GPA among incoming football players. UGA is providing a free education for a lot of athletes that normally would not have the chance to even attend college.

Let’s play devil’s advocate for a bit. Pretend for a moment, Hiveredtech, that you have a son that is a high school senior who also plays football. Your son has not lived up to mommy and daddy’s academic standards and has a 2.77 GPA. However, he is a good enough football player to have schools offering him football scholarships. Your son wants to stay close to home and wants to either play college ball at Tech or UGA. However, his GPA does not meet Tech’s entry standards and is not offered a scholarship. UGA, on the other hand would love to have Junior play for them and offers him a full scholarship. Your saying that you would turn down a free education for your kid becuase you would not want him “mingling” with a team that has the minimum NCAA standards for academic performance.

I’m looking forward to your response…

By 59-39-5

February 6, 2009 3:30 PM | Link to this

Hiveredtech,

Would you be upset if Tech had an undefeated season, but the average GPA of your players was 2.8?

Doubt it.

By wes

February 6, 2009 3:37 PM | Link to this

andy is right.

If your kid is dumber than a bag of hammers, then he goes to UGA.

Very well stated, andy!

By Sweet Home Alabama

February 6, 2009 3:44 PM | Link to this

I always new that georgia had the stupidest players.you cant study in th e pokey.

roll tide ,oops we had the number one class again.

By Rodzilla

February 6, 2009 3:47 PM | Link to this

“Would you be upset if Tech had an undefeated season, but the average GPA of your players was 2.8?”

What would REALLY upset ME is if my team was ranked preseason #1 in the country, had over a dozen arrests, had players that could barely graduate high school and could barely earn a football player degree, and then lost to the team picked to finish worse than Duke. I’d be pretty upset.

By PTC DAWG

February 6, 2009 3:48 PM | Link to this

Regardless of how HIGH GT players get, they Lie and Cheat…

Oh yeah, Reuben is late with his delivery….

By Wes likes boys

February 6, 2009 3:49 PM | Link to this

So Wes, those 40+ kids that Tech recruited that opted for an SEC team instead, are they still “student athletes?” Just wondering….

By baloney

February 6, 2009 3:49 PM | Link to this

If the kid says he is “close”, what he really means is I don’t have a chance of qualifying.I will be in juco somewhere.

By You are all missing the point...

February 6, 2009 3:49 PM | Link to this

UGA is NOT easier than Tech for admitting football players; granted, Tech has a more difficult time keeping players eligible due the math requirement, but getting in is not more difficult.

In reality, thanks to Jan Kemp and Jim Harrick, UGA has tougher admission standards for players than all other SEC and ACC schools except for Vandy, Wake and Dook.

The difference in both recruiting classes is not their GPA, but where they rank as PLAYERS. UGA’s may rank higher there, but we all know that COACHING, which Tech had last year, beats the recruiting class rank. Only time will tell, academically and playing wise, who really had the better results with their recruits.

By Let be honest

February 6, 2009 3:53 PM | Link to this

Andy - I’m sure we all know that “Junior” would not be engaging in this hypothetical of yours to gain any kind of education at UGA - he would be attending that school to major in football.
When the head of a department in the school you support refers to football players as “raw materials” and YOUR OWN defense attorney throughout the Kemp trial acknowledges that the players UGA recruited might hardly work as “garbage men”, your argument seems WEAK

By mac

February 6, 2009 3:53 PM | Link to this

Don’t worry Andy, the logic surpasses either Wes or Hiveredtech. Go Dawgs

By GAFANINTN

February 6, 2009 3:58 PM | Link to this

Hey Sweet Home Alabama, It is ‘knew’ not ‘new’ you Alabama hick.

By Bobzilla

February 6, 2009 3:58 PM | Link to this

Fortunately for you then that you’ll never have to worry about Tech being number one at any point of any season. Pre, during and post. Will never happen. Hope that excites you :)

By Born 2 Bark

February 6, 2009 4:01 PM | Link to this

Hiveredtech,

You dumb arrogant arse! Tech targets the same exact players UGA, and every major college program, does. Take your GPA and 1 victory and shove it up your enginerd arse! Your fanbase disgusts me, no class, the sorest losers, and nothing else to cling to except your GPA.

It’s great to be a Georgia Bulldog! Take that to the bank, d-bag!

By RAMBLE ON!!!

February 6, 2009 4:03 PM | Link to this

Andy thinks Jr.s going to get an Education at UGA.

BHHHHHAAAAWWWHHAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!!!!

How much is a 3 point shot worth again?

By jake

February 6, 2009 4:03 PM | Link to this

I guess if we were recruiting players to be in a National Spelling Bee all these Tech fans would be making sense. Did your 9-4 season pull you guys above a .500 winning% for the past 20 years? I know you guys can do percentages?

By Sautee Dawg

February 6, 2009 4:04 PM | Link to this

Hiveredtech

UGA has one recruit coming in that is on track to be Valedictorian and is bringing with him a 5.08 GPA. If we take another recruit coming in at a 2.77 GPA and average the 2 together it = 3.93. Does this give you any idea of how statistics are formed?

By wes

February 6, 2009 4:06 PM | Link to this

Bobzilla,

I’ve got a UGA-type “coaching basketball” class question for ya’:

Which year is closer to today’s present date?

A: 1990 B: 1980 C: Herschel Walker

By MiKeCaLl J0hNnYs0n

February 6, 2009 4:08 PM | Link to this

Dat MafF ClaSs SuRe AiNt NoO j0kE y0!! ShO aM GlAdD I g0tz mEe SuM PuRtTy A-rAb GuRliEs 2 bEe TaKiN DoSe ClAsSeS 4 MeE!!!!

By BILLY JACK

February 6, 2009 4:08 PM | Link to this

RAMBLE ON-BE CAREFUL YOUR OLD FRIEND BILLY JACK IS ON.

By Rodzilla

February 6, 2009 4:08 PM | Link to this

Hey “Bobzilla” - How many national titles has Tech won? How many has Georgia won? Oh but you’re right, I suppose being preseason #1 is much more important than actually winning championships.

By Jenk Dog

February 6, 2009 4:08 PM | Link to this

I use to feel sorry for Georgia Tech. Never again.

By brandon

February 6, 2009 4:09 PM | Link to this

…sigh…

By Rabun Dawg

February 6, 2009 4:15 PM | Link to this

Techsters, we give up! You beat us, okay! We are not not claiming to be MIT,GAT,VANDY, DUKE , so cut us some slack, ok? We are no different than all of the so-called large state universities that play div.1 football, and while some may be a little harder to get in than others, it is not the end of the world that some of these young men get there and play football. Maybe the system is not the best, but at least some of them get to college who otherwise probably would not, and who knows, many do graduate and become productive citizens. If I were you guys, I wouldn’t be throwing too many stones our way, does Tyrone Sorrells ring a bell?

By The Sportster

February 6, 2009 4:15 PM | Link to this

Hey Andy,

Have you noticed that Hiveredtech has not answered you yet? He is a typical, superiority complex, nerd that probably has few friends that aren’t “a little strange”, if you catch my drift. Fortunately, the good Tech students and alumni don’t write such trivial, pathetic, false ego building dribble. Now, those are the Tech people with real intelligence.

To set the record straight, UGA and every other school, has the same type posters, maybe not quite as nerdy, and that includes the real academic schools like Stanford, Duke and Vanderbilt that have a football team.

Grow up Hiveredtech.

By Bobzilla

February 6, 2009 4:20 PM | Link to this

And how many of their “championships” did you witness? You know if UGA counted every “championship” they’ve been given over the years they’d have about 12.

Better question, when’s the last time Tech won a SOLE championship that they didn’t have to share with a far better team that played a far more difficult schedule?

Colorado lost one game by 1 point on the road, third game of the season against a bowl team. They played 3 CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS, 4 teams that finished in the top 12 and in a REAL bowl game that actually still exist.

Tech tied to a pathetic North Carolina team in the SECOND HALF of the season. They played ZERO conference champions and only ONE team that finished in the top 12. Not to mention in a joke of a bowl that they scrapped soon after.

Got under your skin with my fact about Tech never being number 1, ehh???

By HAHA

February 6, 2009 4:21 PM | Link to this

Tech having an undefeated season…. Armageddon is about to take place.

By MoDawg

February 6, 2009 4:22 PM | Link to this

Tech fans…if you ever heard Reggie Ball speak, it would be fairly obvious that there are some special circumstances for even your institution. How many downs are there in a 4 down series? So I can throw the ball into the stands on 4th down and I have one left, right?

If 2.77 is dumber than a bag of hammers, 3.39 is equal in intelligence to a bag of hammers?? I’m trying to find the logic (or lack thereof) from Wes’ point of view.

By Beernutts

February 6, 2009 4:29 PM | Link to this

Wow, This article was posted in the future! Feb 7th! I guess even the UGA beat writers have trouble with numbers.

By thad

February 6, 2009 4:29 PM | Link to this

ok georgia tech folks. Its like this…every athlete that plays football can get into college with lower than normal sat scores. this is just the way it is. How else do you explain first quarter classes of basket weaving and water polo. tech is no different than anyone else. its all about the athlete. if you are good enough. dont worry we will get you in.

By jake

February 6, 2009 4:30 PM | Link to this

Hey Techies, keep representing the state and holding down that spot in the Chik-fil-a Bowl. Good job guys. You make us proud!!

By eagleman

February 6, 2009 4:34 PM | Link to this

No doubt some of these Techies will be depending on UGA lawyers to defend them and their corporate scandals.

By jake

February 6, 2009 4:35 PM | Link to this

Hey Techies, keep representing the state and holding down that spot in the Chik-fil-a Bowl. Good job guys. You make us proud!!

By dawgfan70

February 6, 2009 4:35 PM | Link to this

I use to pull for GT when they wasn’t playing the dawgs until I realized how damn dumb their fans are!!!! The school has no class at all..They beat the dawgs once in the last 8 years and their coach buys them rings..what a joke!!! but with that said that’s the only way they will ever get one..lmao..

By dawgfan70

February 6, 2009 4:38 PM | Link to this

I use to pull for GT when they wasn’t playing the dawgs until I realized how damn dumb their fans are!!!! The school has no class at all..They beat the dawgs once in the last 8 years and their coach buys them rings..what a joke!!! but with that said that’s the only way they will ever get one..lmao..

By wes

February 6, 2009 4:43 PM | Link to this

Bobzilla,

Colorado also tied Tennesse that year and UNC was a bowl team.

You failed to mention Colorado’s 5 downs vs. Missouri or the holding call against Notre Dame (remember The Rocket?) that allowed them to have a share of our title.

Kudos for keeping up with Tech’s strong history….even if your opinion is highly skewed.

By sidewalk74

February 6, 2009 4:47 PM | Link to this

Hey 59-39-5, Your players GPA is 2.77 and I didn’t see them go undefeated. At UGAY you can’t graduate your players and you cant’ win the SEC. And just so you know I’ll loose the Bowl game by 35 every year as long as Johnson keeps kicking UGAS’s a$$. 45-42 lol THWG

By Frank

February 6, 2009 4:55 PM | Link to this

CMR wins at a .788 clip. He is .750 against Bama & .875 against gt. I don’t see where either of those teams have a lot of ammo to throw BS at CMR.

By Bobzilla

February 6, 2009 5:01 PM | Link to this

You’re lying Wes,

I did say Colorado played UT when I said they played 3 CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS. Unlike Tech who played none. First game of the year in CA they played UT and tied them. Carolina did not play in a bowl game that year. They were barely over .500

LOL!! You’re going to go back and blame the refs now for Colorado being so much obviously better than Tech that year? Why did you fail to mention that Tech played in the pathetic ACC? Heck, even the SEC had 4 teams that year to finish in the top 25 and they were horrible. ACC only 3.

Kudos to you for being a fine representative of a typical Tech fan. Totally clueless about their “strong” history. HISTORY being the key word :)

By MoDawg

February 6, 2009 5:01 PM | Link to this

Such a distorted view when comparing UGA to GT.

See, in UGA’s world, if we beat GT by 3 points it was a close game and viewed that way by both sides. In Gt’s world, if they beat UGA by 3 points, once in 8 tries it’s an “A$$ KICKING”.

Anyone else here see the humor in that?

By Erk

February 6, 2009 5:01 PM | Link to this

Speaking of recruiting, Urban’s new best seller will be titled “Crying Again”, detailing Lane Kiffen’s hurtful accusations of Meyer’s recruiting violations. The book is a follow up to Meyer’s autobiographical account of how Georgia’s end zone dance helped make him the crier that he is today.

….unfortunately for Gator Haters, in other future news, Florida wins its 3rd national championship in 4 years, but Georgia, Bama, and the rest of the SEC are at peace after first year coach Kiffen leads the Vols to a winless 0-12 season

By Hans Delbrooke

February 6, 2009 5:03 PM | Link to this

Is there anyone who likes UGA and GaTech? Both schools are good. I have invested huge amounts of money to both. I had 1 kid at UGA and 1 kid at GaTech at the same time..

By Hans Delbrooke

February 6, 2009 5:11 PM | Link to this

(continued) They both still like each other…They both respect each other’s education..They are both good kids….But neither one has much of a real world work ethic..They still want instant gratification; they have no idea about physical work. They both want to start at the top instead of working their way up - they are both frustrated.

By gwadgib

February 6, 2009 5:24 PM | Link to this

Hey Hiveredtech Do you realize that performancement is not a word in the english langauge. I guess those academicment standardments at Tech are highly over rated

By V8 Cat

February 6, 2009 5:25 PM | Link to this

Hey dog fans! What’s the difference in buying rings for a “drought breaker” and retiring a jersey for the UGA player that scored the winning touchdown in a ‘drought breaker”? Tech had so many different players scoring touchdowns they could not retire all those jerseys so they bought rings. Get over it.

By GaDawg

February 6, 2009 5:44 PM | Link to this

Let’s all stop a moment and think back a few years. Tech’s high educational standards provided us with a moron of a Governor that ran GA into the ground and then he decided he did so well with the state of GA the the nation needed his help. He provided us with 22% interest rates on home loans, almost double digit unemployment and could not rescue American hostages from a terrorist nation. I think his name was Jimmy (Peanut King) Carter.

You techies are such elitist

By VDawg

February 6, 2009 6:14 PM | Link to this

The UGA data is 10+ years ago. Would like to see how UGA is doing under the current coaching staff.

Besides, isn’t it more important if the kids are graduating, not their HS SAT scores. Either way, these kids are getting an opportunity for a free education. I doubt their parents care what the overall football team SAT and/or GPA is.

By fortebuna

February 6, 2009 6:17 PM | Link to this

Hey Georgia douche bags. Lest you forget tech beat you fatherless son 7 straight time. So don’t brag so much about now being equal. You guy and your jail house team will never be the team Tech is intellectually or other wise so get over your inferiority complex Tech beat your butts and the right reverend R. could only watch as PJ gave him a coaching lesson.

By fortebuna

February 6, 2009 6:22 PM | Link to this

Hey Georgia douche bags. Lest you forget tech beat you fatherless son 7 straight time. So don’t brag so much about now being equal. You guy and your jail house team will never be the team Tech is intellectually or other wise so get over your inferiority complex Tech beat your butts and the right reverend R. could only watch as PJ gave him a coaching lesson.

By G

February 6, 2009 6:53 PM | Link to this

Lets go to Tech tonight and beat the hell out of some nerds in the hood!!!!!

By G

February 6, 2009 6:55 PM | Link to this

Lets go to Tech tonight and beat the hell out of some nerds in the hood!!!!!

By hiveredtech

February 6, 2009 6:57 PM | Link to this

Here dawgie dawgie dawgie

I cannot hear you!?!?!?!

Can’t you get louder than that!!

Here’s the link below to the numbers….did I mention our football players smoke everyone in SAT also?

Wow…GaTech is the reigning state football and basketball champion…have FAR FAR higher academic standards…the only thing we cannot compete in with UGA is we cannot even come CLOSE to the number of arrests each year. We need to work on that.

Here’s the proof mom’s and dad’s!… http://www.ajc.com/search/content/sports/stories/2008/12/28/academiccharts.html%3Fcxntlid%3Dinformartr

By Big MIKE

February 6, 2009 7:02 PM | Link to this

Fortebuna, You are lost with your info,Tech got lucky this year. And as for you calling coach reverend, maybe you athe techies all need to go to church, thats probably the reason hekeeps beating y’all, 7-1 pretty good to dawg nation!

By Buddy El

February 6, 2009 7:09 PM | Link to this

If I had a daughter in a wh—-house and a son at Ga. Tech I would know which to try to rescue first. I know this is going bring a lot of comments about my daughter(I don’t have a daughter) but you see my point.

By Dr. Phill

February 6, 2009 7:32 PM | Link to this

Adams and Richt are very skilled at manipulating data. The SAT data Adams recently quoted on football players was over 10-years old. I would wager that UGA’s 2.77 GPA includes non-credit, remedial classes. A player can remain eligible for about two seasons at UGA without passing a credit course. Tech, on the other hand, is a school that delights in flunking students out, and Tech’s remedial program is minimal. If Richt recruited better qualified students to begin with, his graduation rate would probably improve and maybe his arrest rate would decline. The thing that snags Richt’s players is the HS graduation test, which for some reason, a third of his signees have difficulty passing. But, what can you expect from a coach who sends his players on the field to dance in the end zone.

By GT student

February 6, 2009 7:34 PM | Link to this

Ok why do people claim UC bolder was better than us in 1990. I was 2 at the time but i know my history. Here was the schedule GT23 NCST13 GT44 UT-Chatt9 GT27 SCarolina6 GT31 Maryland3 GT21 Clemson19 GT13 UNC13 GT48 Duke31 GT41 UVA38 (who was the number one ranked team) GT6 VT3 GT42 WakeForest7 GT40 UGA23 GT45 Nebraska21

11-0-1(acc + UPI natl champs)

Had an amazing year and was screwed over by a 5th down play….it should have been done after they stoped him short of the endzone….but he got 5 tries. That is not a better team in my opinion. Now the debate remains but the truth of GT’s title remains. We are the 1990 national football champions, and damn proud…go Jackets!

By GT student

February 6, 2009 7:47 PM | Link to this

oh yes and the reason we won it was because of Tom Osborne vote in the coaches poll

When the final votes were counted, Colorado had won their first national champion as voted by the Associated Press. The UPI coaches poll, however, saw a shake-up that resulted in Georgia Tech moving to #1 by a total of one point. The deciding vote was cast by Nebraska coach Tom Osborne, the only coach who had played both teams during the 1990 season. Colorado beat Nebraska 27-12 while Georgia Tech had beaten them in the Florida Citrus Bowl, 45-21

By GT student

February 6, 2009 7:50 PM | Link to this

also refer to this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990Colorado-Missourifootball_game

By 74Dawg

February 6, 2009 7:51 PM | Link to this

Hiveredtech,since the Kemp deal,UGA has tougher standards for athletes tha Tech. And at UGA, they don’t invent grades for them after they get there. As far as the rest of your bitter hive buddies, Get A Life. Why are you on a blog about UGA Football running down 18 and 19 year old kids? People who live in glass houses…

By gt fan

February 6, 2009 8:14 PM | Link to this

hey andy do hang with goober and gomer and barn?

hey 74dawg…..

we are on your blog because we can. we tech fans have had to take crap from the dawgs for 7 years. each close loss was an a## kicking according to every dawg that posted on OUR blogs.

well the tide has changed so to speak. tiar baby. consider your a##es kicked this year. 45-42

btw lets re evaluate the classes again after we see who makes it into school and who doesn’t. according to this article you have 6 maybes. And who knows a few that do make it may well where stripes once the make it to athens. lmao.

btw du…. i guess your loss to gt hurt the dawg recruiting a bit eh. by my count you lost 6 of your top prospects to usc bama fsu fla and 2 others.

yes indeed the tide has turned. 45-42

By gt fan

February 6, 2009 8:16 PM | Link to this

hey andy do hang with goober and gomer and barn?

hey 74dawg…..

we are on your blog because we can. we tech fans have had to take crap from the dawgs for 7 years. each close loss was an a## kicking according to every dawg that posted on OUR blogs.

well the tide has changed so to speak. tiar baby. consider your a##es kicked this year. 45-42

btw lets re evaluate the classes again after we see who makes it into school and who doesn’t. according to this article you have 6 maybes. And who knows a few that do make it may well where stripes once the make it to athens. lmao.

btw du…. i guess your loss to gt hurt the dawg recruiting a bit eh. by my count you lost 6 of your top prospects to usc bama fsu fla Georgia Tech and one others. now that is freakin hilarious.

yes indeed the tide has turned. 45-42

By Ken

February 6, 2009 8:31 PM | Link to this

Tech and Bama bloggers must be under-employed to have time to read and comment on UGA blogs. I wouldn’t waste my time reading the blogs of other schools. Too busy.

Plus, if you think any school is into football or basketball for anything other than the money, you are an idiot.

If I were king for a day, all players at all schools would have to meet the school’s minimum entry requirements, be admitted, and have a successful year of study under their belt before they played a snap. That would certainly change college football and make the players “student-athletes”.

For all the blather about the academic superiority of the tech athlete, I bet as a team they still don’t meet the minimum entry requirements for the school. Prove me wrong!

Go Dawgs!

By Driver8

February 6, 2009 8:33 PM | Link to this

Fletch,…..Sure, I’d take a 2.8 team gpa to along with an undefeated season, no problem. That said,…our higher gpa didn’t seem to get in the way when we kicked your a* in November.

THWG!

By Ken

February 6, 2009 8:33 PM | Link to this

Tech and Bama bloggers must be under-employed to have time to read and comment on UGA blogs. I wouldn’t waste my time reading the blogs of other schools. Too busy.

Plus, if you think any school is into football or basketball for anything other than the money, you are an idiot.

If I were king for a day, all players at all schools would have to meet the school’s minimum entry requirements, be admitted, and have a successful year of study under their belt before they played a snap. That would certainly change college football and make the players “student-athletes”.

For all the blather about the academic superiority of the tech athlete, I bet as a team they still don’t meet the minimum entry requirements for the school. Prove me wrong!

Go Dawgs!

By Urbie Cryer

February 6, 2009 8:50 PM | Link to this

Kiffin should not have used the word “cheating” about me but “unethical” would have been more appropriate! After all just look at all the lies I have promised these recruits like telling Brown he would catch first ball and play every down this fall—-and the dummie fell for it lol,lol.

As for Kiffin, this is what he does to his recruits: UT coach Lane Kiffin told two quarterbacks for the 2009 class that they wouldn’t be a good fit for his system. Both de-committed. Now how dumb is that—-telling the truth to a recruit???? Dumb Kiffin!!!

By gtforever

February 6, 2009 9:12 PM | Link to this

We feel like everyone has an outstanding shot of qualifying and being with us next year.”

An oustanding shot?! Give me a break, If you have a suspicion that the kid will not qualify, then why do you recruit him? UGA is only concerned about winning. PERIOD! Coach Richt is so “full of it” it’s funny!

By BIG bee

February 6, 2009 10:51 PM | Link to this

No Fletch, those numbers did not help us against LSU, but did help us hand UGA their@ss last Nov., and will probably do so in 09, but, we don’t know who wins the game until after the game is played.

By BIG bee

February 6, 2009 10:54 PM | Link to this

No Fletch, those numbers did not help us against LSU, but did help us hand UGA their@ss last Nov., and will probably do so in 09, but, we don’t know who wins the game until after the game is played.And for 74 Dawg, how about them dawg basketball players?

By P Dawg

February 6, 2009 10:56 PM | Link to this

No gtforever, you’re funny. You guys like to use any excuse in the book as to why UGA beats your a* most years. Your players take custodial engineering to remain eligible so STFUB! Get a life nerd.

By westgadawg

February 6, 2009 10:58 PM | Link to this

times are tuff, ya know! let’s just hope for the best of these guys! these players will get to their school and realize how good they got it and make the best of it. why hate so much? GO DAWGS!

By Dawg4Life

February 6, 2009 11:19 PM | Link to this

I do not see why everyone is ripping on these kids. Hey look if you went to tech that is great. If you go to UGA, that is great too. I would rather see a kid who did bad in school get that shot b/c maybe it was not really his fault that his grades suffered. You don’t always know what is going on at home. People are always making a big deal out of this. Let’s make a big deal out of the ones that succeed in graduating with degrees. Who cares what you scored on the SAT or ACT. I was accepted to both schools and graduated Dean’s list. Guess what, I went to Tech, however have always rooted for the Dawgs. I scored a 2.66 in high school and not so high SAT score. Went in the Marines and then went to college afterward. Posted high juco scores and transferred to Tech. Now I have an Industrial Engineering degree. So honestly you don’t have to be a whiz in high school. It is what you do after that counts most. Good luck to all young atheletes

By Dawg4Life

February 6, 2009 11:20 PM | Link to this

I do not see why everyone is ripping on these kids. Hey look if you went to tech that is great. If you go to UGA, that is great too. I would rather see a kid who did bad in school get that shot b/c maybe it was not really his fault that his grades suffered. You don’t always know what is going on at home. People are always making a big deal out of this. Let’s make a big deal out of the ones that succeed in graduating with degrees. Who cares what you scored on the SAT or ACT. I was accepted to both schools and graduated Dean’s list. Guess what, I went to Tech, however have always rooted for the Dawgs. I scored a 2.66 in high school and not so high SAT score. Went in the Marines and then went to college afterward. Posted high juco scores and transferred to Tech. Now I have an Industrial Engineering degree. So honestly you don’t have to be a whiz in high school. It is what you do after that counts most. Good luck to all young atheletes

By chemdawg

February 6, 2009 11:30 PM | Link to this

hiveredtech …who cares what the GPA of the football team is? Nerds use GPA to defend themselves from outside threats and their own deep insecurities about their ability to function successfully in the world. Comparing GPA’s is like forcing tech’s little ** head civil engineering undergrads to stack up their bench press with UGA’s journalism majors (utterly pointless - though UGA would win so can we call it even now?). Also, when it comes down to academics, most football players don’t want to be an engineer, so they go to a college where they can compete in a real athletic conference (SEC) and choose coursework appropriate for their long-term goals. P.S. high school GPA is not indicative of the level of coursework at a college nor does the average high school GPA of the football team dictate how well any individual on that team will perform in college.

By chemdawg

February 6, 2009 11:57 PM | Link to this

also, who in their right mind would want to talk about arrests after this:

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/gatech/stories/2008/05/06/technews0507.html?cxntlid=informartr

By hahahaha

February 7, 2009 1:17 AM | Link to this

Another class that’ll end up with a ton of NQs… whats the story again?

45-42

By It'sNot1980

February 7, 2009 1:27 AM | Link to this

Will St. mark ever win another SEC title?

A. Yes. He and Jesus vacation in Amelia Island yearly.

B. No, not as long as Saban and Meyer are in the are in the SEC, even if St. Mark can recruit half-wit super athletes.

C. Herschel Walker

By DBCOOPER

February 7, 2009 2:21 AM | Link to this

LTES SEE……UGA takes American kids and helps them with their academic future in order to gain entry into college. Where they have the opportunty to earn a college degree AND if they’re fortunate enough to make millions in the NFL. Also this goes on at nearly all NCAA schools at all levels.

LETS SEE… Some schools accept questionable foreign nationals from middle eastern countries that can’t qualify for a visa’because they originate from a terrorist state. However being an engineer student at this school allows them entry into our country for an engineering degree partially paid for by the American taxpayer.

By gmlane

February 7, 2009 5:10 AM | Link to this

UGA versus Tech, head to head:

Football: 45-42, Tech MBB: 67-62, Tech WBB: 57-42, Tech VBall: 3-1, Tech Hockey: 5-3 Tech 7-1 Tech 7-5 Tech Stephen Hill: Tech Derrick Favors: Tech

Jeez…tough year there, puppies?

By Mike La

February 7, 2009 7:22 AM | Link to this

Many of the people, and I mean many, will want to send their kids to UGA because it is the state school and it is affordable. Many, and I mean many, will have kids that don’t get accepted. Swallow that. On another note, UGA does not allow minimum SAT and GPA combined student athletes. They once did, but Ms kemp fixed that problem and as a fan I am pleased with that. Keep in mind that I think all NCAA schools should use the same standard, very near to the standards for non-athletes. I know it would diminish the quality of play, but people would still go out and cheer for their favorite jersey.

By gtforever

February 7, 2009 7:45 AM | Link to this

The truth hurts don’t it P Dawg… Even you can’t deny the truth. Hey, custodial engineering, must be a new degree at GT. It wasn’t there when I matriculated. Even in the business school, you were stuck with having to take tough courses. My post wasn’t even about curriculum, it was about your coaches that should be doing a better job recruiting, and why the statement that Coach Richt made about how they expect each one of these kids to have a shot in making it academically, is pure HORSE CRAP! Part of the recruitment process is verifying that the kid is capable of passing college courses. Give me a break, all COACH cares about is winning!

By Geodawg

February 7, 2009 8:08 AM | Link to this

I get sick and tired of when the only thing someone can bring up about their football team is GPA. It is called football not GPAball. I’ve never heard of a college football team winning the BCS GPA national title. One day you will all learn that SAT and GPA (especially one that comes from an underachieving high school) do not mean anything when it comes down to making it in life. Get back to your room and finish your vector anaylsis homework.

By UGA CLass of 81

February 7, 2009 8:09 AM | Link to this

Thanks CMR….make me proud. Recruit thugs that couldn’t add the numbers on their jersey if they had to. I hope the A-CCPD have their prints/DNA on file. It’ll make solving the crimes they will commit easier. I guess CMR wants to continue making his millions…..win at any costs…right?

By PaPa

February 7, 2009 8:17 AM | Link to this

UGA academics are a joke. My daughter went there and said most of the football players are really stupid and the curriculum is a sham. I guess if you want to labeled stupid for the rest of your life, go play for Georgia. My daughter transferred to Wake Forrest and got a real education. By the way, the only reason the GPA and SAT scores are high for entering freshmen at UGA is sheer volume, not because of any quality education.

By Geodawg

February 7, 2009 8:37 AM | Link to this

So what are you saying Pa Pa, UGA only accepts alot of students with a high GPA and SAT.

By docbailey

February 7, 2009 9:11 AM | Link to this

you young people really amaze arguing me which is the better school based on football players GPA or other academic qualifications. I have been reading this same old crap between our two state schools for over 40 yrs. And once you get past your chest beating ra-ra BULLSH-T, you realize these kids are in school for only two important reasons, to make money for their university, and get into the NFL.. Yes, there are a few that will not make it into the pros and graduate in 5-6 yrs, but who really cares. For their ability to make money for the schools , they are given free room and board and whatever the alumni gives to them.coaches live and die in what is known as the “GREY” area of recruiting. Many, many of these kids come from a one parent family in low class areas and see college football as the only way out and spend their time developing football skills instead of classwork. If they area exceptional players, coaches have no problem sending them to prep schools for a year to qualify. Get your head out of the sand young people, this is a business and nothing else. You employ the best talent and leave the rest in the dumpsters.

By Urbie Cryer

February 7, 2009 9:21 AM | Link to this

I sure am happy Bob Knight, the lunatic, is looking at Alabama for his next coaching job. He would fit in well with Tide athletics-cheating,crying when caught,blaming someone else for getting caught,hiring Satan Sabin-the liar, who believes in forming a “family” at that location, until someone is stupid enough to offer him more greenbacks,lol,lol. Now, as for me, would I ever jump to another job after forming a “family” unit? Would I ever cry when a recruit told me he had changed his mind???

By DAWES

February 7, 2009 9:25 AM | Link to this

YOU TECH FAN WIN 1 GAME IN 8 YEARS THAT WILL BE ONLY ONE IN A YOU WIN NEXT 4 OR 5 YEARS

By swampjacket

February 7, 2009 10:01 AM | Link to this

BOBZILLA, THE “PATHETIC” ACC WENT 5-1 IN BOWL GAMES THAT YEAR, WITH THE ONLY LOSS BEING VIRGINIA PLAYING A QUARTERBACK WITH A BROKEN THROWING HAND IN THE SUGAR AGAINST SEC CHAMP BAMA, 25-22.

By ga_tech_92

February 7, 2009 10:08 AM | Link to this

Georgia Tech’s football players had the nation’s best average SAT score, 1028 of a possible 1600, and best average high school GPA, 3.39 of a possible 4.0 in the core curriculum.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/stories//2008/12/28/acadmain12283DOT.html

UGA special admit percentage for athletes 73.5. GT special admit percentage for athletes 6.2. I.E. if there are 75 players on the roster, 55 of UGA’s 75 didn’t even qualify to get into the school, where as only 4 of Techs 75 didn’t qualify. UGA should be ashamed for exploiting the athletes. College is supposed to be about getting an education first, athletics second. Clearly GT gets it, UGA does not. No wonder UGA has significantly better recruiting most years than GT…THEY WILL LET ANY DUMB HAY SEED ON THE TEAM, if they can ball it up!!!

http://www.newhaven.edu/news-events/27084.pdf

By SEC fan

February 7, 2009 10:12 AM | Link to this

Debating schools is a bit silly. The keys to a good job and success in business are as follows: a degree from almost anywhere, presenting ones self well in the interview process, attitude, evidence of teamwork, ability to get along with others, ability to accept criticism, a degree of humility, honesty, work ehtic, and others to numerous to mention. A huge turn off in the interview process is the person that acts like because they have a degree from so and so, they are better than other candidates. A big plus is the person that came from very difficult circumstances and earned a degree. In almost any interview process, evidence of discipline, hard work, teamwork, and being able to get along with others is far more important than being born with a silver spoon in ones backside. The only exception to that I can think of is politics. With over 30 years of management experience in one of the largest and most successful companies in the world, I can assure you the name of the institution on the degree isn’t nearly as important as the characteristics revealed in the interview process.

By JasonDawg

February 7, 2009 10:17 AM | Link to this

Correct me if I’m wrong. Though wasn’t it GT that recently had the big cheating scandal? So what your saying is you can recruit players with 3.0 in H.S and they get to Tech and can’t cut it and the athletic dept allows for a mass cheating scandal????

By Barry

February 7, 2009 10:18 AM | Link to this

Everyone knows that GT players have higher IQ’s on average than UGA players. It’s obvious when they open their mouths. UGA players are more prone to violence and criminal behavior too. Facts are facts. UGA tards just don’;t want to look at them. When you have a coach that came from a history of criminal student bahavior at FSU, it’s no surprise that that carried over to UGA. Pretty sad how corrupt UGA’s program is.

By Dawg Tired

February 7, 2009 10:20 AM | Link to this

Sweet Home - Glad to hear that you “new” that. Speaking of brains!

By Barry

February 7, 2009 10:22 AM | Link to this

Everyone knows that GT players have higher IQ’s on average than UGA players. It’s obvious when they open their mouths. UGA players are more prone to violence and criminal behavior too. Facts are facts. UGA tards just don’;t want to look at them. When you have a coach that came from a history of criminal student bahavior at FSU, it’s no surprise that that carried over to UGA. Pretty sad how corrupt UGA’s program is.

By GA Tech Insider

February 7, 2009 10:32 AM | Link to this

Here all of you go again. Let these kids have a chance to go to College and get an education no matter where they chose to play ball.

Many of them wouldn’t have a chance to otherwise.

Personally, I hope each of them is able to make it in and excels in the classroom. Best of luck the rest of the year, boys and remember, you need to keep it up once you get into UGA as well. You want to stay qualified there and be able to fall back of something special when your football career is over.

By wp

February 7, 2009 10:38 AM | Link to this

All you Ga. Tech academic snobs the next time one of your animals get sick go to a Vet who graduated from your beloved Tech and not UGA

By clickdawg

February 7, 2009 11:11 AM | Link to this

absolutely love uga, so does much of the country, hey bees, did you know that uga is still #1 in selling their merchendise all around the country, of all the 300 odd college teams, we sell more hats ,tags jerseys,flags than anyone, sellouts, so tech go crawl in a hole, gooooo dawgs.

By Sautee Dawg

February 7, 2009 11:28 AM | Link to this

SOLUTION

Why not require all High School Athelets wanting to attend college to have the required Grades before letting them be recruited or offered a scholarship?

Grades not good enough? Stay in High school until they are! 12 years of school seems like plenty of time to get your grades ready! if some of these athelets are not educated enough to attend college, then shouldn’t they be sitting out some of these High School games too because of poor grades?

Had a young man work for me on scholarship to play college ball and dropped out after 2 semesters because of grades. Spent his High School senior season watching football films instead of attending class. College football is not the only program that plays the grades game. High Schools play it too. Someone should hold them accountable as well! All programs could use some cleaning up in this area in my opinion.

By Dawg1

February 7, 2009 11:30 AM | Link to this

Ah, predictable.

The AJC article was garbage. It was using data from Georgia that was literally a decade old. Anyone with half a brain or hint of statistics knew that the article was poorly researched and poorly written.

The information below came right out of a USA Today aricle from last fall.

There also is a new NCAA rule that threatens penalties for teams with too many players who become academically ineligible or fail to graduate. Based on their annually published Academic Progress Rate (APR), teams can lose scholarships and eventually become ineligible for postseason play, either of which can embarrass a school and affect a team’s ability to win.

Hewitt, the Georgia Tech men’s basketball coach, bluntly articulated many coaches’ view of the “unintended consequences” of the APR system at the Knight Commission meeting in June. He said then that when an NCAA official came to the Atlantic Coast Conference meetings four years ago to discuss the APR system, “almost every coach said: ‘You understand what you’re basically telling us. We’re going to encourage our kids to take the easiest path to eligibility.’

“So if I’m at a Georgia Tech, I’m not going to tell a young man he can’t major in engineering,” Hewitt said. “But I certainly will counsel him before he takes that first class that … if you decide to go down this road and for some reason you find it harder than you expected and you decide to change your major, you’re probably more than likely going to end up being ineligible” for sports.

At Georgia Tech last year, 63% of the juniors and seniors on the men’s basketball team majored in management. So did 83% of those on the baseball team and 82% of those on the football team. A little more than 11% of all juniors and seniors at the school were in the major.

Here is the information on UGA’S Football Team:

Every Division I sports team calculates its Academic Progress Report (APR) each academic year, based on the eligibility, retention and graduation of each scholarship student-athlete. An APR of 925 projects to an NCAA Graduation Success Rate of approximately 60 percent. For the 2003-2007 seasons, Georgia’s APR was 965, giving it the highest score out of all SEC football programs, along with putting it in the 80-90th percentile for Division I football APR scores. This score of 965 is 40 points higher than the average score for public institutions’ football programs, and 7 points higher than the average score for private institutions’ football programs.

I avoid taking shot at ‘haters’ out there. But when your telling out right lies, either out of ignorance or doing so with intent - you need to be called out. LOL

By Phildo

February 7, 2009 12:17 PM | Link to this

Last time I looked, Tech had a national football champion more recently than UGAG. Even in women’s tennis for that matter, a sport where UGAG is normally the stronger. And, let us not forget, had it not been for an extra (fifth) down, Colorada would have been an also-ran.

But, amazingly I am not ragging on UGAG. Admission standards there and at Fla have risen dramatically over the last two decades, at least for those wretched souls who can carry or bounce a ball. Unfortunately, they get a break, at ALL of the schools, including Tech.

I love sports, but it’s a travesty to see a hard working academic achiever get pushed aside in pursuit of the all mighty sports dollar. If any of them had any integrity, they would all hold their athletes to comparable admission standards as at least the median non-sport acceptee. Isn’t going to happen though, so we’ve all got to put up with the semi-literates who tarnish our beloved alma maters, UGAG, Tech, Puke, you name it.

By heeldawg

February 7, 2009 1:27 PM | Link to this

Wes:

Get your facts straight. UNC in 1990 was NOT a bowl team. They were 6-4-1, and stayed home that bowl season. I know; I was at that game (did postgrad work at UNC for six years).

The AJC article about academics cited by many above was bogus, using 10-year-old data. The APR rating at UGA is more current, and, as pointed out above, Georgia’s APR rating is the highest in the SEC. Yes, higher than Vandy’s and Florida’s.

PaPa, you’re just flat out wrong. Perhaps the curriculum your daughter studied at Georgia was not to her liking, but I can guarantee you that if she were truly academically inclined, she could do anything she wanted at U.Ga. and obtain an education equal to (or, in some areas, better than) anything she could get at Wake “Forrest,” as you put it (ask your daughter about the proper spelling of the name of her school). The U.Ga. Honors Program is top-notch—one of the best in the country—and affords its students the opportunity to do one-on-one independent research and interdisciplinary study mentored by world-reknowned scholars in many disciplines.

I don’t need glorify do your inane post with any more of a response than that. Your “data,” and the conclusion you have drawn from them, are incorrect. Period.

GMlane:

By the same token, tough half-century, Jackets?

We argue lots of silly things on this blog. The academics argument is stale and only marginally relevant. However, no matter what your point, at least get your facts straight before posting something on here. BS is BS no matter how you slice it.

By ga_tech_92

February 7, 2009 1:51 PM | Link to this

The significant difference between UGA and GT are the number of academic exceptions each team allows. 70% or more for UGA, meaning most of the football players were not qualified to get into school, only qualified to play football. GT the percent is more like 6%, meaning, the vast majority of the football team actually earned their way into school both in class AND on the field. One school puts athletes on display, the other STUDENT athletes. If you are to believe the propoganda, both schools claim to put the student first in student athlete. UGA kicks the crap out of GT in football most years, I’ll admit that…but at least we put the student first in student athlete.

By Sautee Dawg

February 7, 2009 2:30 PM | Link to this

DAWG1

Nice post!

By Sautee Dawg

February 7, 2009 2:58 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah, Dawg1, be my Valentine. Let’s sniff each other’s rears. Woof woof.

By Big Dawg

February 7, 2009 3:11 PM | Link to this

PaPa

February 7, 2009 8:17 AM | Link to this

UGA academics are a joke. My daughter went there and said most of the football players are really stupid and the curriculum is a sham. I guess if you want to labeled stupid for the rest of your life, go play for Georgia. My daughter transferred to Wake Forrest and got a real education. By the way, the only reason the GPA and SAT scores are high for entering freshmen at UGA is sheer volume, not because of any quality education.

You sir are an ignoramous, school is what the student makes of it, if you go to college and fool around and party then you probably won’t get anything out of it. But the student who goes and applies themselves to their studies will be prepared for life after college

By Dawgtime

February 7, 2009 4:24 PM | Link to this

Again, why are other team’s fans reading UGA blogs. Get a life. We are not talking about a quiz bowl. The reality is that the G.P.A. talk is all made up propaganda. How can you determine the G.P.A. before the kid graduates from high school. The kids are still taking classes, hence no one has any idea what their G.P.A. will be. No one has an accurate account of the G.P.A.’s. Stop the lies. In terms of the truth, check out the guard who is in the running for top academic honors. That is based on facts. GT has a way of pointing out ridiculous lies to distort the truth about recruiting. UGA signed a great class and GT signed a sorry class. FACT. Go Dawgs.

By Dawgtime

February 7, 2009 4:38 PM | Link to this

I just spoke to a high school guidance counselor and an administrator. They both work at a school that had two kids that signed D1 scholarships. They informed me that they cannot legally give out confidential information (G.P.A’s) to the media. I informed that many people claim to know the G.P.A.’s of kids. They both said that those reports are total fallacies and recruiting propaganda. I told you that these reports are based on lies. If you are a parent, how would the media know you kids G.P.A.? They wouldn’t unless you told them and that could be something that you made up. Stop making up lies on high school kids that are having one of the great experiences of their lives. In terms of questioning a UGA diploma, I know of a GT graduate that works at a lawn mower production company. He works on the assembly line. Man, that really did a great deal for him. I know of another one that works at a potato production factory. Wow, I’m sure he is making a killing. Yeah right. GT is no Duke, Vandy, Stanford, UNC, or UGA. Go Dawgs. We are the flagship school. GT is the garbage barge.

By Vin Stooley

February 7, 2009 4:44 PM | Link to this

LET THE BIG DAWG READ!!!

By Dawgtime

February 7, 2009 4:52 PM | Link to this

Barry, are you sober? Reggie Ball is intelligent. Hello, the kid couldn’t count to four. I’m sure Rueben Houston was applying that mighty tech degree when distributing drugs. Oh, Mike Mooney was an example of excellence when someone held a girl and he hit her. I’m impressed. Every school has issues because you are dealing with young people. I realize that Mike was upset because the girl wouldn’t share her makeup with him, but why would a 6’7 300 OL need help beating up a girl? I happen to have a cousin that graduated from GT and UGA. He will openly tell anyone that both schools offer very difficult programs and programs that are not challenging at all. He also said that the vast majority of GT players are not majoring in engineering. Again, we are talking about football, not the Men in Pink Fraternity. Why are you reading and responding on a UGA blog? It sounds to me that GT is very disappointed in the recruits that were signed, hence they resort to the typical bash UGA instead of dealing with the truth.

By Vin Stooley

February 7, 2009 5:46 PM | Link to this

Dawgtime, I’m not sure what you mean by “programs”. If you mean courses, there are a handful that are not too difficult. If you mean degrees, then your cousin lied. There’s the difference. There are no crip degrees at Tech. I suspect he was a Tech washout who transferred to GA. Half of my freshman class flunked out after one year. I personally knew one who flunked out and was the Star Student at his high school. Trying to compare Tech & UGA is folly.

By Reality Fix

February 7, 2009 9:17 PM | Link to this

Dear Bobzilla, Actually Tech has FINISHED #1 since you last finished #1.

By 12oz curls

February 8, 2009 9:53 AM | Link to this

uga has a lower graduation rate b/c their players leave early for the nfl, tech doesn’t have that problem, haha…that was some beatdown lsu gave you guys in a down year by their standards. i’m looking forward to my dawgs extending the all time wins lead against the nerds next year.

By Bobzilla

February 9, 2009 3:55 PM | Link to this

Swampjacket,

Your ignorance makes me smile. The ACC was 4-1-1 in bowls actually. Playing such powers as Southern Miss and Louisiana Tech. 4 SEC teams finished in the top 25, while only 3 ACC teams did.

Tech tied a pathetically horrible North Carolina team that year that didn’t even make a bowl.

And no, Bama wasn’t the SEC champ that year, it was Tennessee who Colorado played first game of the season and tied. Just one of THREE conference champs they played. While Tech played ZERO