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DEL.ICIO.USGeorgia Tech’s Paul Johnson visits with Carver’s Darren Myles
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Georgia Tech coach Paul Johnson met on Wednesday with Carver-Atlanta safety Darren Myles, one of the nation’s top uncommitted players.
What did Johnson have to say? “He said they really want me, and they wanted to know what it was going to take to get me there,” Myles told the AJC.
Myles said after meeting with Johnson, he has decided to take an official visit to Georgia Tech in January (date to be determined). Myles will take recruiting trips to LSU this weekend and Alabama on Jan. 9. He said his other top schools are Michigan, West Virginia and Purdue.
Myles also said he is no longer consideriing UGA. What went wrong?
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By Stephon
December 3, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
Burnett and Myles would be the dirtiest safety combo in the land.
Come to Georgia Tech Darren
By the real Old Gold
December 3, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this
Come to Tech young man, and be part of a tradition of excellence. Coach Johnson will win championships.
By hoyajacket
December 3, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
Mr. Myles:
You will win a championship during your time at GT. Paul Johnson may be the best coach in the country.
Stay close to home and be a Jacket!
By blackwatchdefense
December 3, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
To H* With Georgia
By 'Bama Man
December 3, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this
HAHAHA Paul Johnson will win championships? Don’t get too big for your britches Tech fans.
Darren, go to Bama, where championships are a tradition and will be for years to come. Tech hasn’t won an actual championship since the 50s. Let’s be honest, everyone knows that the 1990 “championship” really belongs to Colorado, who actually played a schedule and was a better team than Tech with all the controversy.
What’s funny is that I’ve heard dumb Tech fans trashing the SEC because they beat UGA and Miss St., but they p** their pants thinking about playing Bama and FL.
Paul Johnson’s offense may look good in the ACC for a couple of years, but people will figure it out. Don’t even think it could last more than a year in the SEC. Half the players would be hurt and crying on Johnson’s shoulder about how the players tackle too hard in the SEC after playing a full conference schedule.
Terrence Cody would eat your running backs for lunch. Our offensive line would dominate your defensive line the entire game, especially how you still managed to let UGA put up 42 points on you. Rashad Johnson would make Dwyer quit football.
And don’t let me hear all the “ACC is better than the SEC” junk because some computer spits out some formula (of course you nerds would like that) with the ACC on top. Rather, apply common sense…Alabama and Florida destroyed all other SEC teams in their wake!
Here is another little bit of information about the terrible ACC…Discounting Florida St., you have to go back to the 1981 to find an ACC team (Clemson) that won a national championship…hahaha! How far do you have to go back for an SEC team?
SEC makes it three in a row this year with ‘Bama crushing the Gators and the Sooners to resurrect the greatest football program in college history. The SEC is where you win championships, Darren.
By AlabamaRamblinwreck
December 3, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this
BamaMan:
You are the reason so many of us grew up rooting against Bama. Gene Stallings was a class act, but now, out of desperation, you have hired Sat…uh I mean Saban, and you paid him a King’s ransom.
Either way, you should come off your high horse, especially after the last few years at Bama?
Go Jackets!!
Darren: Go where you feel it is right for you, but I promise you that Paul Johnson will be a blessing to you if you come to GT, and the alumni and fans will be very appreciative.
By Cyptomcat
December 3, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this
Bama man, you are delusional.
1 Colorado had a LOSS in 1990, and won against Missouri on a FIFTH down thanks to the refs messing up. So GT won the 1990 for a reason! And they earned it more than Colorado! 2 ACC has a winning record against SEC this year, outside FL and Bama, SEC is terrible! ACC at least has decent teams from top to bottom. Gator fans themselves agree they played a close game with Miami which GT destroyed! 3 We heard EVERY weak how every school will stop Paul Johnson’s offense, UGA had 2 weeks and they claimed they were sure of stopping it. We destroyed them all the same. So actually stop Paul Johnson’s offense, and then talk about it, not before that.By Bama Man
December 3, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this
Delusional? Even if you count the split 1990 championship, Bama has won in between now and when the last time Georgia Tech got half of first place…hahahaha!
Second off, your amazing Techie offense didn’t “destroy” UGA…you won by three points. It doesn’t take an Alabama grad to recognized that is not destruction.
All I know is that you Techies point to ACC’s record this year against the SEC and all the SEC has to do is point to all the hardware it has won as national champions.
Bama adds to the SEC’s bling in ‘09 … Go to Bama Darren and take over for Johnson after he is drafted first round this year
By JR
December 3, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this
‘Bama Man, It is so amazing how a few wins bring out the morons. It sure has been quiet over there for the last few years and will again as soon as the mighty tide get chewed up by the gators. Then next year, you will lose your coach and be starting from scratch again.
By GermanJacket
December 3, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this
BamaBoy, Congrats on your success SO FAR this year, but get over yourself. Back in the “good ole days” of the SEC, Bama had their share of being Ga Tech’s beotch. For the last 6 years, Bama’s been Auburn’s beotch. Saturday you’ll be Florida’s beotch.
Bama and Florida have “destroyed” the other SEC teams because with the exception of maybe Ole Miss and Georgia, they just aren’t as good as you pretend they are.
Time will show Paul Johnson to be a better coach than Nick Satan (sp?).
Darren, Make the best choice for YOU, but we hope to see you on the Flats winning championships at Ga Tech!
By CW
December 3, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this
Official word from the entire state of Alabama.
We do not claim the idiot referenced above, “BamaMan”.
By 'Bama Man
December 3, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this
Alabama is 28-21 all-time against you bugs. I think that means you are our “beotch”. As for ‘Bama not talking for years until they are back on top, it is the exact same thing you Techies are doing…and you aren’t even close to being in the BCS championship game! Don’t worry, Saban will continue to land the best recruiting classes in the nation and the Techies will keep trying to talk about how they had that one good year under Coach Paul Johnson.
When you guys get into the top 5, let ‘Bama know and we will come whoop up on y’all. Meanwhile, we will let our UGA brethren take care of you as they have the last 7 of 8 years.
By JR
December 3, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this
Take it easy on Bama Man, He has had a rough year. He lost his doublewide because he didn’t know what a ARM was and had to buy recap tires for the old singlewide he bought. Plus can’t afford a razor to shave that 3 day old beard (but enough about his wife).
By Observer
December 3, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this
Bama - According to the current Sagarin rankings, the ACC is the top conference in the land and the SEC is third.
As for our offense not surviving in the SEC, we put up 948 yards and 83 points on the two SEC teams we played this year - and one of those was with our backup QB (a true freshman).
Get over yourself. In three days Florida is going to OWN you guys.
By GT GRAD
December 3, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this
Bama Man is simply ignorant of several critical facts and he seems to be a little delusional regarding the strength of the SEC teams.
The “destroyed” reference was regarding the fact that GT “destroyed” the Miami defense. By the way, the same Miami defense which held the “magnificent” Florida Offense to 7 points until the 4th quarter! Most of the SEC defenses are WAY WAY over-rated.
The ACC will replace the SEC as the VERY BEST conference in the nation within 2 years; no question about it. We have already proven on the football field that the ACC plays a better brand of football than the SEC being 6-4 head to head. We just need to show a little patience and let the mainstream media realize the facts; then the ACC will begin to get the respect the conference deserves.
Note to Darren: You should attend college at the school which is best for you and your family. GT would be a wonderful choice when you consider the quality of the education, superb football coaches and the future of the GT Football Program. I say GOOD LUCK to you no matter what decision you make.
Go GT!!!!
By SEC Football
December 3, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
Darren, make your decision on the cosistency of the program. You will probably start at UGA as a freshman and follow in the footsteps of some guys such as Champ Baily. Mark Richt is a players coach and will be at Georgia for your 4 years.You will be on CBS most weekends and play in front of 90,000 every weekend.
By JD
December 3, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this
Sorry SEC Football, he didn’t even list Georgia as a school he was interested in. In addition, I think that FLA will kick Alabama’s butt even without Harvin.
By JB
December 3, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this
IN RESPONSE TO bama man! you are a moron! cpj has a .744 winning percentage and has won two national championships already, and won one of them against jim tressel! typical bama fan, much like an redneck ugay fan, you don’t have any idea what your talking about. nobody has really figured out how to stop cpj in his entire career. if you know anything about him or tech football this year, then you know only 70% of the offense is installed. the run and shoot will be installed in the spring and good luck to anyone that can stop this nasty offensive attack once the entire offense is installed. we are #3 in the nation in rushing, and once the pass attack picks up, cpj will be unstoppable, unless tech stops itself with turnovers! crawl back into your mobile home bama man and talk smack on your beloved saban’s board! you guys are about to get run out of the georgia dome this weekend when the gators hang 40 plus on you guys. stop by cpj’s office on the way out of town and check out his credentials yourself if you don’t belive what i’m saying! you guys will take some lumps next season dude, no QAURTERBACK TO REPLACE WILSON! enjoy your 1 season banner year!
By Bama Man
December 3, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this
GT Grad,
As for ignoring “critical facts”, you also reference “destroy” to the Tech-UGA game - “We destroyed them all the same”. So it was not just in reference to the Miami-Tech game. Everyone in the nation knows that Florida’s offense got off to a slow start. If you think Miami could hold UF to 7 points through three quarters now, you then are the delusional one.
Further, how is the ACC going to surpass the SEC? What teams are going to replace long-term LSU, ‘Bama, UF, Tenn, UGA, Auburn, etc. Kids want to play at these colleges in these stadiums for these coaches. Your analysis of this year is correct…the ACC has the head-to-heads at this time (bowl games pending), but let’s look at history…
In the past 10 years (1998-2007) the SEC leads the ACC in head-to-head games with a 41-30-0 (.577) record. Advantage: SEC
The SEC holds a 251-117-10 (.677) all-time advantage according to the historical alignment, discounting FSU (joined in ‘91) and Miami, BC, and Va Tech. Advantage: SEC
Based on “current conference affiliation” the all-time SEC vs ACC football numbers are: 726-570-52 (.558). Advantage: SEC
In bowl matchups, SEC is 29 - 13 (.690) against the ACC. Advantage: SEC
When you come close to surpassing those numbers, then you can try to make an argument for best conference…until then, just shut-up, sit back, and watch the SEC win its third straight NATIONAL Championship in January, courtesy of undefeated Alabama.
Darren, the numbers don’t lie. Come to Bama and play championship football
By Bama Man
December 3, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this
GT Grad,
As for ignoring “critical facts”, you also reference “destroy” to the Tech-UGA game - “We destroyed them all the same”. So it was not just in reference to the Miami-Tech game. Everyone in the nation knows that Florida’s offense got off to a slow start. If you think Miami could hold UF to 7 points through three quarters now, you then are the delusional one.
Further, how is the ACC going to surpass the SEC? What teams are going to replace long-term LSU, ‘Bama, UF, Tenn, UGA, Auburn, etc. Kids want to play at these colleges in these stadiums for these coaches. Your analysis of this year is correct…the ACC has the head-to-heads at this time (bowl games pending), but let’s look at history…
In the past 10 years (1998-2007) the SEC leads the ACC in head-to-head games with a 41-30-0 (.577) record. Advantage: SEC
The SEC holds a 251-117-10 (.677) all-time advantage according to the historical alignment, discounting FSU (joined in ‘91) and Miami, BC, and Va Tech. Advantage: SEC
Based on “current conference affiliation” the all-time SEC vs ACC football numbers are: 726-570-52 (.558). Advantage: SEC
In bowl matchups, SEC is 29 - 13 (.690) against the ACC. Advantage: SEC
When you come close to surpassing those numbers, then you can try to make an argument for best conference…until then, just shut-up, sit back, and watch the SEC win its third straight NATIONAL Championship in January, courtesy of undefeated Alabama.
Darren, the numbers don’t lie. Come to Bama and play championship football
By wayner
December 3, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this
WHERE O WHERE IS YELLOW SKEETER
By Bama Man
December 3, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this
JB,
You just insulted your head by claiming national championships in D-I AA football. That’s like saying your Michael Phelps because you won gold medals at the Special Olympics. Not even comparable.
Nick Saban already has won national championship. He gave Les Miles one last year. Saban gets his second this year.
As for replacement QBs, get ready for Star Jackson. Red-shirted this year, this kid is going to be able to do well next year. Further, he is not going to have to be an amazing passer because no one will be able to stop our run game. If he does need to pass, Julio Jones is going to be one of the best all-time Bama receivers. Also, look for Burton Scott next year.
Paul Johnson lives in a trailer compared to what Nick Saban lives in with his salary. But I guess it is okay to take a shot at me when history doesn’t lie and shows you how inferior GTech is to Bama. Got to feel better about yourself somehow.
By JR
December 3, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this
Right Darren, Go to Bama and play before a whole stadium full of clods like Bama Man.
By GTsteve
December 3, 2008 8:13 PM | Link to this
Hey Bama Boy,
First of all you played so far over your head in the first half against UGA that your nose was bleeding. And how about do us all a favor and come back to this blog after the Gators expose you this weekend. Who have you beat this year? 2 things tell me that your run will be short lived. 1, your coach is not named Bear Bryant, so your school will screw this up, and 2 your coach is named Nick Saban, so he will be gone before you create a dynasty.
By GTsteve
December 3, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this
Did you say Star Jackson would be your quarterback next year, wasn’t she on The View. LOL The funny thing about your team and your quarterback, is that YOU spent the last 3 years b*** about the quarterback that YOU all worship now.
By Dawgonit
December 3, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this
Winning tradition? At tech? One win in 8 years, by three points? Emerald Bowl? Humanitarian Bowl? Celebrating a Peach Bowl? BCS? Championship? Not even in the ACC, where 4 losses will get you a championship!
By GTsteve
December 3, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this
Oh and by the way, don’t forget to call Oregon and thank the Ducks, because with them beating Oregon State, now USC stays and plays in the Rose Bowl instead of coming to the Sugar and giving you the back to back spank spank. You will get spanked by UF, but now maybe you can drill Utah or Boise, or maybe they will let you play Tulane or Western Kentucky or Arkansas State again. Bear Bryant would roll over in his grave if he could see the pansies that you beat this year.
By Jackit
December 3, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this
Bama Man,
You have confirm our suspensions. Inbreeding does happen! we always wonder where you po’dunks hide your selves. Your mother was just on Springer explaining how circumcised. The doc hit your sisters chin? She said it looked like you got attacked by a hole puncher on the account she was missing ever other tooth. Gives a new meaning to skin flute, huh? Shut up and turn your gas powered generator off.
By GTsteve
December 3, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this
Oh I am sorry Bama, you did beat Auburn this year, but isn’t that like your sister in High School, everybody did that.
By Bama Man
December 3, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this
Wow, its funny how GTech people make fun of UGA fans for being some “stupid” and mentally inferior because of the school they go to, but then Tech fans make idiots of themselves on this blog.
Star Jones is not Star Jackson. Star Jones is on The View. Star Jackson plays football better than any Tech player. Get the facts straight next time buddy or you really will just keep on sounding like you graduated from UGAy.
I, in no way shape or form, “worship” JP Wilson. I think that Saban’s strategy with him has helped make him a smarter QB this year. Manage the game, throw when its the smart play, and minimize mistakes. That is championship football. Tennessee Titans are doing the same thing with Kerry Collins - make smart passes and let the running game and defense win games.
Darren - come play safety for one of the best defense’s in the nation. With you, Dre Kirkpatrick, and Rod Woodson in the secondary, no one will be able to pass against Bama for the next 3 years.
By Gator4life
December 3, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this
The Gators will expose not only the Tide this weekend, but will also expose the SEC as a 1 team conference.
By AFnPC
December 3, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this
“What do we have to do to get you (to Tech)?”
Is that a loaded question? Grade fixing?No wait, that’s why Tech now has a ‘Management’ program. Ummm, Carver…Do your parents need a new house to live in while you’re in the dorms? How about we get you a personal “shuttle” to classes and wherever else you want to go. You can even drive it yourself….I wonder if Myles would follow CPJ to Auburn?
By GTsteve
December 3, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this
I know that was Star Jones, that is why i put the “LOL” after the joke. Lighten Up
By Gator4life
December 3, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this
What is the line Sat, I will take the Gators and give 20 points
By Bama Man
December 3, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this
Jackit,
Before trying to insult me as an “inbreed”, you may not want to demonstrate why you are masking the fact that you are the one who is, in fact, inbred. I mean, come on - “You have confirm our suspensions”?!? The correct way to say it is, “You have confirmed our suspicions”. But I guess you are trying to remember the dialogue that you yourself spoke on the Springer show. Sorry, man, but your post clearly shows someone who can’t come up with an intelligent comment to rebut anything that has been posted thus far.
GTsteve,
I guess that you were trying to insult Bama for finally beating Auburn this year after losing six straight. Well, that would in itself also make Tech look even worse since they lost 7 straight to UGAy before winning one of the last 8. However, the difference is that while Auburn beat us 6 straight times, Bama still held the most wins in the series. Unfortunately, Tech cannot say the same...they have been dominated by UGAy throughout their series. Nice try though. Keep on hurling those insults because it really is all you have. It's kinda funny while remaining pathetic.By gtfan
December 3, 2008 9:46 PM | Link to this
Bamaman is the poster child for incest.
need i say more?
By jeff
December 3, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this
This bama boy just got on there band-wagon!as for julio jones being one of bama’s all-time best receivers,its not like you all have had that many!!!come on i know now you want to name them but you can’t,so hurry go start yout dial-up to find your info!!!
By FBFAN
December 3, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this
Bama Fan,
go to bed dog. looks like you spent half your day researching and posting your blog entries..all of you get a friggin life. I love football, but really. What does everyone have to prove here? A bunch of ghost bloggers hiding behind their aliasas- get lives people- no wonder the economy is in the sh*er
By Sweet Home Alabama
December 3, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this
based on my resurch it appears to me that it is a no braner that Bama is the place to go.THE nerds are not an option there academics are overrated and baMA HAS all the same departments.Oh i almost forgot we are number 1 in the country.SOUND familar i THOUGHT so.son we dont have many spots left but my contacts can put in a good word for you.You got the right stuff.
By FBFAN
December 3, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this
Bama Fan,
go to bed dog. looks like you spent half your day researching and posting your blog entries..all of you get a friggin life. I love football, but really. What does everyone have to prove here? A bunch of ghost bloggers hiding behind their aliasas- get lives people- no wonder the economy is in the sh*er
By Arob
December 3, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this
Bama man, Fla will crush you guys this weekend, so go ahead and run your piehole while you can. It’s over after Saturday.
By JR
December 3, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this
Bama Man, Any points you have tried to make can be easily repudiated but it really isn’t worth the trouble. You are an embarrassment to true Alabama fans and I doubt if you could find the University of Alabama on a map. I’m sure you are considered quite the wit on the back side of your trailer park so I suggest you grab a six-pack of Bud, hitch up your overalls, get with Clem and Rufus and yell Roll Tide all night long. I know you did that last night but go ahead and do it again.
By Reality
December 3, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this
BamaMan, I welcome your banter, but your attitude needs adjusting. I am fine with Bama, I cheer for Bama when they are playing, I even hope they win this Saturday. Now to your point; in Saban’s first year he lost 6 games, one of which to Louisiana-Monroe… at home… by a touchdown. Not a point, or a fieldgoal, a touchdown. 4/5 of the last 5 games were lost. In addition to LA-Monroe, Bama lost to Georgia, Florida State, and Mississippi State, LSU, and Auburn. Three of those teams GT has already beat this year. We could potentially play LSU in the Peach, a game I think TECH can win. A win for TECH would mean, in his first year, Johnson beat 4/6 teams Saban could not beat his first year. Your argument for coaching abilities seems off, based on the level of talent you and I both know Alabama possesses, both this year and last.
In your own commentary posted December 3, 2008 8:41 PM, you state “That is championship football. Tennessee Titans are doing the same thing with Kerry Collins - make smart passes and let the running game and defense win games.” Through your own argument, Paul Johnson is coaching Championship Football, as GT this year has let the running game and defense win games. Please feel free to try to change your story now.
Darren, do as you wish, visit each school and choose the one that fits you best. Good luck to you, wherever you land.
Go Jackets! THWUGA!
By Bama Man
December 3, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this
JR,
You might want to look up the definition of repudiate. I think you mean rebut or something along the lines of making a counterargument.
However, once again, Tech fans are showing that they have nothing to say to Bama’s superior football history.These feelings of insecurity just lead back to these “trailer park” and lack of intelligence jokes, but the record shows otherwise. I guess all of those years of being UGA’s doormat at Thanksgiving has made you all forget how to make an argument and rather hurl insults.
As for the game on Saturday, I think it is great that people pick against Bama. All the “experts” have picked against us all season but we keep showing them they were wrong. Bama 14-0, NC in 2009.
By kING BEE
December 3, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this
Bama man (Girly boy), Florida will absolutely destroy you. If I remember correctly UGA hung 31 pts. on your sorry slow defense in the second half. How many points did you score on UGA in the second half, a measely 10??? You are a joke @ # 1 just as UGA was earlier. Tech would stomp your sorry team. We will win the SEC this year after going undefeated in your weak a* conference once we stomp our opponent in the Bowl game.
By GT student
December 3, 2008 11:06 PM | Link to this
lol Alabama fans are becoming the new UGA fans. Dont get me wrong guys, but there will never be a bama like the old days. Bear Bryant got all the best talent…and basically beat up on nobodies to get all those titles. Now everyone has amazing athletes so you wont have a dynasty like that. Trust me bama will not be like the old days, and you are delusional if you think that they could in modern college football. At least UF fans realize that its all a cyclical thing. You drift from mediocrity to greatness…so enjoy the years that bama is great. GT is on the rise and dont try to take away what Paul Johnson has done, we would give bama a good fight but we wouldnt win. Bama is not like UF, they struggle to score touchdowns with their QB…please dont make yourselves look like idiots and enjoy your success with out having to attack others.
By JR
December 3, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this
NO Bamer Man I mean “repudiate”. I’m sure you are not familiar with the word or it’s multiple meanings but look it up in a D I C T I O N A R Y.
By Bama Man
December 4, 2008 12:07 AM | Link to this
Reality,
As for your post, finally someone willing to debate fact rather than unfounded opinion. Saban's first year was a disaster, no doubt. However, you point to the opponents he lost to and the one's that Tech has subsequently beat this year. The problem with that argument is the quality of the teams played last year compared to this year. A loss to LSU = loss to No. 1 team in the country; A loss to UGA = loss to No. 2 team in the country in OT; loss to Auburn = No. 15 team in the country; loss to FSU = unranked; loss to MSU = unranked; loss to La Tech = unranked. Three of those losses were to unranked teams at the end of the season. Two of Tech's losses are to unranked teams at this moment, and may be three after the bowl games are finished. Tech has not beaten a team ranked higher than 17 at this moment. Bama only beat one ranked team last season. But the difference is the quality at the top. The best team that Tech has faced is UGA and that is not saying too much. Furthermore, they have not played any great opponent yet. Do you think that Johnson's offense could have done the same against these teams last year? I think that is hard to argue, but it is possible I think that if you look at the quality of opponents played between both teams first year, the overall records are more comparable than indicated at first glance. The circumstances provided help illustrate that. Also, as for the talent level inherited by Saban, just look at how many true freshman and sophomores are playing this year. Shula never recruited well. Saban inherited those players and had to do what he could with them last year while plugging in his new ones. This year, he is working almost strictly with his players, save for a few Shula gemsJohnson inherited at least a final good recruiting class from Gailey. Morgan Burnett, Dwyer, and Nesbitt were all relatively great players that did not bolt after Gailey was axed
As for championship football, the problem is that the running game HAS lost games at time for Tech. At UNC, the running game blew it by turning the ball over. Other turnovers have helped create too many chances where Tech did or even could have lost. The Miami game and UGA game were ones where this was not a factor.
That is the difference between Bama and Tech. Look at the turnover margin, and you will see that Bama’s defense forces turnovers and the running game does not give many up.
Now, as for Johnson’s second year at Tech, will he be able to match what Saban did at Bama is a completely different scenario.
Now, JR, let’s get back to the definitions of repudiate. Maybe you will learn something this evening. You said, “Any points you have tried to make can be easily repudiated but it really isn’t worth the trouble.”
Def. 1 - : to divorce or separate formally from (a woman) - Don’t think this is what you meant since I don’t think you are trying to divorce from any point.
Def. 2 - : to refuse to have anything to do with : disown - You would not have to any trouble repudiating (which you claim would be worth some trouble) since to repudiate, all you do is say “I repudiate” Or “I refuse to have anything to do with your points”; furthermore, you cannot really disown my points since you did not subscribe to them in the first place or claim them as your own. Failed again
Def. 3a - to refuse to accept ; especially : to reject as unauthorized or as having no binding force as in a contract - Once again, repudiate does not work here since a repudiation is a mere refusal or rejection and require no trouble at all. However, we can infer from your post that there was some trouble in repudiating
Def. 3b - to reject as untrue or unjust - Same line of thinking. One naturally can repudiate my points as a Tech fan without any trouble, “I repudiate your statements” or “I reject your statements as untrue”. However, if it takes some trouble to repudiate my points, then it is not a true repudiation. It requires something more, something that goes beyond a mere rejection as untrue. It requires a rebuttal. In the sense of this definition, one repudiates an allegation
(on a side note, the use of these words under these definitions are generally tendered in the legal arena in contract law, which is not necessarily the case here)
Def. 4 - to refuse to acknowledge or pay - this definition is more or less used in the financial world and does not hold the intended meaning as above. Sorry, but you miss on this one again.
To have used it correctly, all you needed to say was “I repudiate your arguments”, but you did not and that is why it is an incorrect use.
The thing is, JR, that a dictionary also requires a logical analysis of the meaning of the words, not necessarily a quick glance at the phrasing in the dictionary. Nice try though.
And I’m out. Thanks to Reality, who made at least a realistic argument. Darren, come to Bama and win another NC with us next season.
By Real UGA Supporter
December 4, 2008 1:31 AM | Link to this
I am amazed by how much some of you guys are willing to type on these blogs. WOW.
By GTU Academics
December 4, 2008 2:13 AM | Link to this
I had no idea Reggie Ball and Joey Hamilton where captains of industry.
Reuben Houston must have known a thing or two about business management. It takes a certain degree of savvy to move hundreds of pounds of weed.
Stephon Marbury seems like a real scholar.
How about the Tech football player charged w/ rape this year? What was his major?
Why doesn’t Tech try to join the IVY Leagues where they don’t give athletic scholarships?
It’s a shame there isn’t an academics blog for the GTU folks. They would apparently feel more at home there.
I took your beloved calculus @ UGA. I calculate the following figures:
59 Georgia wins, 40 Georgia Tech wins
14 out of last 18 won by UGA.
GTU victories in 98, 99, and 00 came while using at least 10 academically ineligible players, including Lil’ Joey Hamilton. Hence probation and forfeiture of wins.
Enjoy your one legit victory in the last 18 years.
I liked you guys better when you were on blogs impersonating our actual rivals.
By GA Tech insider
December 4, 2008 3:25 AM | Link to this
Darren;
Congratulations on a great season and a great career at Carver-Atlanta. I know you did your Dad (and the rest of the family proud) of your accomplishments on, and off, of the field.
Ignore those posters who waste their time throwing insults at one another and continue to focus on what’s best for you and your future. Listen to your family and follow your heart…so far so good, I’d say!
Best of luck in the future, wherever you choose, Darren, to continue your football career and higher education, and if GA Tech is lucky enough to have you don the White and Gold, then we would be proud to have your parents, and the rest of your family, sharing the stands with us, on Saturday afternoons, and Thursday evenings on ESPN, for the next several years.
By macrotech
December 4, 2008 3:46 AM | Link to this
Bama Man is QUITE the little statistician! Frankly, I don’t care about all the stats and all the ‘unfounded’ statements! Kind of like, ” Star Jackson plays football better than any Tech player”? blah, blah, blah! There are too many variables that’ll never be realized! The sec/acc is a stupid argument. I love the acc, but could care less about the ‘matchup’ issue! Here’s what I do know; 1-Tech blew away expectations this year! 2- NOBODY cares if YOU respect TECH’S national championship in 1990 (seems valid enough to be in the official record books) 3- The sec HAS been strong these past few years. This year, with the exception of a couple of teams, they seem average (I have NO problem with a sec school winning the national championship THIS year) . For you to suggest that Tech’s aspirations for another NC is as laughable as the crystal ball you must be using! I’m cool with you team rising back to it’s place of prestige, but it’s ignorant to think that Tech can’t get back to theirs! We have a, better than average, history accompanied by a better than average hope for tomorrow! Unless your name is Nostradamus, your opinions are no more than dribble. No offense to your arguments, they appear well researched. Props to your intellect! You’ve managed to crawl through all of these opinions and have offered many ‘corrections’. In the end, you just look like a guy that has little to do, many opinions about anything and a desire to pick little internet verbal fights (I’m always amused by these as they are probably brought about by puny little fellas that spent the majority of their school years locked in a locker). Good luck in the sec championship. However ‘bama got there, they’re there. Props! This year, Tech will be playing in the Chic-fil-a Bowl against an sec opponent. Next year, MAYBE we can see a matchup of your tide against our jackets! Now, roll back over to your own little blogisphere and dazzle THEM with your history lessons, opinions and your amazing ability to see into the future ;0)
P.S.- i KNOW! You’re 6’5” and weigh 240 lbs. and are certain that you could kick my @$$! You might EVEN offer to meet me somewhere! I’ve heard all this before from uga fans! Please, don’t disappoint me with that crap when you’ve been most diligent in your efforts to appear intelligent!
By Linesman
December 4, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this
If this young man comes down to a choice between Bama and GaTech, he can hardly lose.
Bama is in the 1st year of a tremendous resurgence under Saban. As long as he stays with us we will be contenders for the NC, and I think we’ll win a few of them.
Paul Johnson is a terrific coach, who was considered when Shula was fired. I was always impressed with him. Tech is lucky to have him.
By Linesman
December 4, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this
If this young man comes down to a choice between Bama and GaTech, he can hardly lose.
Bama is in the 1st year of a tremendous resurgence under Saban. As long as he stays with us we will be contenders for the NC, and I think we’ll win a few of them.
Paul Johnson is a terrific coach, who was considered when Shula was fired. I was always impressed with him. Tech is lucky to have him.
By Captain
December 4, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this
You GT fans certainly crawled out from under the rocks didn’t you? Win a few games with Chan’s players and ‘poof’ Paul Johnson is a conquering hero. Well, he did beat the Dawgs and using eligible players, which is different than the last few times GT beat the Dawgs, back in the last Century wasn’t it? Congrats to CPJ, seems like a good guy and obviously a fine coach.
I am curious, how many of you bloggers who are so passionate about GT and enjoy hurling insults at Ala, Georgia, and the SEC bothered to attend a game over at old Bobby Dodd Stadium, Historic Grant Field this year? About what I thought, N O N E. You boys are good at using your computers, you boys are good at hurling insults, you boys are good at crowing and proclaiming a “Return” of the GT program. Let’s see how often you fill up that 50,000 seat stadium, how many season tickets you buy. REAL FANS do more than blog insults, challenges, and gloat….REAL FANS BUY TICKETS, THEY GO TO GAMES… and given the average attendance at a GT this past season, there’s a lot more blogging going on than going to games.
Finally, for all of your BS about the ACC being better than the SEC, sure. It was widley recognized that the SEC was in a down year, and many of the ACC wins were against down teams. Miss St, S Car, Georgia, Vandy. In the SEC’s case a one year down cycle equals the height of the ACC. The ACC champion will be determined in front of maybe, maybe 20,000 fans….guess you could say “Who Cares”
By Not Disappointed
December 4, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
Darren, Georgia Tech would be honored to have you as a student/football player. Were every you go “Be Happy!” Ramblin Wreck!!!!!
By Bama Man
December 4, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this
Sorry for the posts. I am madly in love with Nick Saban. He just completes me. I know you people do not want a homosexual blogging about football, but I just cannot help it. I love Nick Saban. It is time for me to go bend over for him now. Good Bye…
By Bama Fan
December 13, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
Man my team sucked against Florida. Back to the double wide and jack daniels. Gonna make some hoochie punch for the utah game! Can’t wait!