Football recruiting

By BullDawg Rick

January 3, 2008 5:42 AM | Link to this

Onward Christian Soldier, Baby!!!

Welcome to the Dawg Nation..

YOU will also become one of the major contributors to the BEAST CMR is building in the Classic City!!

All in good time…

Cannot wait to see you in the Red & Black!!!

By alan

January 3, 2008 6:26 AM | Link to this

Matt, Congratulations on not getting caught up in the UGA hype. You are considering some quality schools. I personally hope you will stay at home and play for a fine coach at Georgia Tech. Tech is consistently in the top 10 academically and has a quality football program. 11 straight bowl games is pretty impressive. Christian, Sorry you were taken in by the UGA hype, UGA is an average school in all categories. I guess some people settle for less.

By GaDawgs7

January 3, 2008 6:56 AM | Link to this

Alan, You’re right, so glad Matt didn’t get caught up in the hype of UGA and go there when he can come play for Tech…of course, guess the fact you weren’t offered by UGA doesn’t matter. Poor Christian, you were caught up in the hype…now you’ll go play for that average UGA school…you know the one that finish in the top three this year, and should go into next year as a top 5 team…hmm, very average indeed….of course, if you had been smart, as Alan suggests, you could have gone to Tech, where if they are lucky, and everything falls into place, they’re hoping for another shot at that bowl game with the blue turf lol…who’s average?….but you’re right, guess some people settle for less…..

By GaDawgs7

January 3, 2008 6:59 AM | Link to this

Alan, You’re right, so glad Matt didn’t get caught up in the hype of UGA and go there when he can come play for Tech…of course, guess the fact you weren’t offered by UGA doesn’t matter. Poor Christian, you were caught up in the hype…now you’ll go play for that average UGA school…you know the one that finish in the top three this year, and should go into next year as a top 5 team…hmm, very average indeed….of course, if you had been smart, as Alan suggests, you could have gone to Tech, where if they are lucky, and everything falls into place, they’re hoping for another shot at that bowl game with the blue turf lol…who’s average?….but you’re right, guess some people settle for less…..

By james curtis

January 3, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this

What is the deal with Josh Jarboe? He is sure turning heads in Orlando at the underarmour Allstar practices. I never heard of him before but he was interviewed yesterday and he sure looked good in that RED and BLACK. He can play at UGA right away. Josh if you are reading this stay in the RED and BLACK and help make the BULLDOGS NATIONAL CHAMPIONS next year!! UGA adding Green and Jarboe with the rest of the receiving core you can put your money on the DOGS in 08!!

By Simple Facts

January 3, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

UGA graduates comprise a substantial percentage of the doctors, lawyers, veterinarians, teachers and business people in the state of Georgia. You can go to UGA, study hard, and your potential is unlimited.

If you want to be an astronaut or build bridges, Tech is probably the better place to go.

UGA is located in Athens, one of the nation’s coolest college towns. Tech is located in the middle of Atlanta, bordered on one side by a major interstate and an inner center on the other. Tech has some really cute co-eds. Georgia has thousands more.

By BullDawg Rick

January 3, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Alan..

Goint to a “bowl” 11 straight years is not an ‘accomplishment’, as there are 32 bowl games, hence 64 teams play every year in a bowl game..

Yea for UGA Tech for being a ‘top 64’ team…

When you finally play in a BcS game or even the Outback or Cap 1 bowl or Peach bowl, then maybe that’s something to hang your hat on..

A bowl game in the Northwest played infront of less than 30,000 is a joke!!!

See ya in Athens next year for #8!!! :)

By Another Simple Fact

January 3, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

You can also go to UGA, not study hard, and do the same things.

By alan

January 3, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

Simple Facts: Since you are from UGA (probably not a graduate) your facts are wrong about Tech. Tech as a lot of courses that are not engineering or scientific. The School of Management is Internationally recognized and their new Ivan Allen College of Liberal Arts makes Tech a real University in course offerings. If an Athlete goes to Tech he will get a great education from an internationally respected University and a pretty good football program that is getting better with Coach Johnson. By most lists from 2007, Tech out recruited UGA, not this year but we will out recruit you again nationally, and we will win the ACC sometimes and beat UGA sometimes. Simple fact! By the way, why do we see all those UGA students partying in Atlanta every weekend if Athens is so cool?

By Red Clay Hound

January 3, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

Alan, they like to go to Atlanta and make fun of all the Tech geeks. That is why.

By Dock

January 3, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

Matt, Here’s an idea: Bypass all of this mess and come to Winston-Salem to play for the best coach in America in Jim Grobe. As a receiver, you will be the number one target for an All-ACC quarterback while getting as fine an education as you will ever want or need. At Wake Forest, you won’t be just another WR, you’ll be part of a special offense that will allow you to do just about anything including using your exceptional passing skills. I hope you love the campus! Be a Deac! Best of luck!

By yellowblood

January 3, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

I think he should come to UGA. We have the best Tickle Piles and our team will win the National Championship next year. Just remember, Tickle Piles and Georgia go together.

By TechFan

January 3, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Im usually not one to compare academics, but UGA is not close to being on the same level as Tech in academics. As of right now, yes, ya’ll carry a big football advantage. You just won the sugar bowl, have 7 straight on us, and go into the preseason probably ranked around 2 or 3. Every UGA fan is so hyped up about Aj Green, they never look at the downside. They have compared him to Calvin, and he hasn’t stepped on the field to play in Athens. Many recruits get way too overhyped, some examples: Xavier Lee, #2 QB coming out of High School, Anthony Morelli was the #3 QB coming out of HS, Charlie Jones, Miami, Jamaal Edwards, FSU, and Bobby Washington, Miami, were the #2, 3 and 4th rated running backs out of High School. Ever heard of them? That is just two positions in ‘04. ‘05 had some decent receivers, but #2 was also Fred Rouse, and #5 was Selwyn Lemon. The list goes on, so yes AJ green has talent, as do many players, wait to see if he pans out. Also, rivalry games are known for streaks. 7 in a row is a lot, and UGA fans are 100% sure you will make it 8, but dont coun’t on anything too fast. A rivalry game can be so much as a toss up. You have never faced Paul Johnson, or any offense like him, in recent years. Nesbitt is now under center for good, and well finally be putting all our tailbacks to use, Dwyer, Roddy, Evans, and Peeples coming in this year. Our new DC, Wommack, is known for doing what Tenuta does. Tenuta’s weakness was coaching the secondary, which is how UGA, and many teams beat us this year. We brought in a very good d-backs coach. AT Barnes will end up being better than Wheeler, Bowen is back and Brad Jefferson will be a stud. Our D-line will be sick, D Morgan, M. Johnson, D. Richard, and 3rd team all american-Vance Walker.

Will be closer than you think, UGA fans

By Orange

January 3, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

Simpleton Facts and Red Clay Hound, you people need to get out of Athens more. The UGA students come to Atlanta because they want a change from the Athens scene. Athens is basically a college town and little else. Atlanta offers students, and particularly athletes, an opportunity to experience the sights and sounds of a major city.

If you don’t believe me then answer this question: when players from the Atlanta Falcons, Atlanta Hawks, Atlanta Braves, etc. want recreation do you think they go to Athens, or do they go to Buckhead and Downtown Atlanta? Likewise, where do you think college athletes have the best chance of meeting or being around professional athletes —- Athens or Atlanta?

You people are obviously students in Athens and don’t get out very much.

By Red Clay Hound

January 3, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Orange, you could not be more wrong - atleast about me. I went to school in Athens 20 years ago and now I work in Atlanta. I’m real familar with what Atlanta has to offer. Crime, pollution, and traffic. Those are all great selling points!

By kool&kat

January 3, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

The Kat says: Red Clay Hound, if the ATL is so bad why are you coming here every day? What, you can’t find a job with your limited education in Athens? Oh, yeah, nothing much there besides the college. Still, if you hate Atlanta so much, stay away dog!

By Geoff Dawg

January 3, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

I think some people on this blog are confused - when I was in school in Athens, it was quite normal to see a contingent of pimply faced techmites converging on the Classic City to party with the Georgia co-eds. That’s because Athens primarily is a college town and that’s the kind of atmosphere that college kids want to be around. I live and work in Atlanta now and at this stage in my life wouldn’t want to go back to live in Athens but it was a tremendous experience at the time. In Athens, you can enjoy all the sites and sounds while in the company of others your own age and who are in a comparable peer group to yourself. In Atlanta, you can’t go to a bar without being around either creepy older gentelmen trying to pick up 20 year old girls or crazy eyed hoodlums that make you keep one hand on your wallet. In terms of college experience, Athens is unrivaled.

By samiam

January 3, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

It’s funny how people (red clay hound)are always talking about Atlanta’s crime etc., but yet they live and/or work there. Go to Utah or Idaho if it’s so bad.

By sobedawg

January 3, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Any word why Patrick Johnson started leaning on LSU…Wasn’t UGA in the mix? Did Patrick watch our Sugar Bowl? Dr. SobeDawg

By Dawgdog

January 3, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

Blank and Richt to “informally” dine and talk shop Friday.

By Dawgdog

January 3, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

inside source. will meet out of state. either chicago or indianopolis.

By Wrecker1

January 3, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this

I’ve got to hand it to you Ugag’rs. Ya’ll really get top notch education is important type recruits. The Commings kid from Westside-Augusta doesn’t even have a clue what the academic side of Ugag is like but yet he’s committed there. It probably came as a complete suprise to him that academics were even involved at that cesspool. In yesterday’s recruiting blog he said he would be going to Athens to try and pick up a little something on the academic side of Ugag. A real weiner there guys.

By dawgingatorville

January 3, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Another year, another bunch of techies talking about how good there going to be next year and how UGA has low standards in the class room, funny thing is, you can get in to tech with a 3.4gpa you can’t get into UGA with a 3.9 right now, they are only accepting 4.0gpa and higher with a much higher SAT score.
So go to tech, lose on the football field and pretend to get a better education. LIVE IN FANTASY AN ENVEY!!

By former athenian

January 3, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Hey Geoff Dawg…are you talking about the same Athens where I lived and worked as an adult for 12-13 years? I can tell you for sure, I was only there because my pay was good, and it had nothing to do with UGA. I can also tell you that the worst thing about that one-horse town is UGA and the trash (both student and non-student that it attracts). I didn’t see too many of those fine, upstanding students UGA people are always talking about; instead, I saw a lot of trashy, dirty, sloppy, stringy haired, foul mouth little brats who lived for getting drunk every night in the little dives in downtown Athens. I also lived in Berkely, CA, and I rank the dregs at UGA on the same level as the losers at Cal. And, the adult UGA fans in town, most of which never attended a class there, are just as bad as the students. Athens is a red-neck, no class little town and always will be. One thing I will say, I could always tell whether someone there was actually a UGA grad…you could see their class ring when they picked their nose.

By Geoff Dawg

January 3, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

Thank you former Athenian for so accurately depicting the level of class usually displayed by UGA detractors. Suffice it to say - if you’re a negative person in life, you’ll find negativity no matter where you live.

By DaveDawg

January 3, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

It is amazing how long people will perpetuate an erroneous myth just to make a silly point. I have lived, worked and gone to school in Athens and I have lived in the ATL burbs and worked at GT for almost 2 decades. Both places have a lot to commend them and a lot negative depending on what you are focused on at any point in time. Nobody likes crime, but there is no shortage of crime in Athens. Nobody likes traffic, but have you ever tried to leave Athens after a game. Suffice it to say, both schools are internationally renowned—for different things. GT is a real university with a real Liberal Arts program(much to many alums dismay) and a top flite business school. UGA has become one of the top research institutions in the world and the admissions standards have gone up dramatically since the hope scholarship was introduced. UGA has great football, womens’ basketball and gymnastics, men and womens’ swim, tennis and golf teams. GT has better mens’ basketball and baseball, and womens’ tennis teams. At any given time any of these teams could trade places in the standings depending on talent and coaching. Arguing the merits of the respective institutions is like arguing about the relative merits of chocolate vs. vanilla ice cream. Just depends on what you like or what you have a taste for on any given day. Both schools are awesome and anyone should be proud to be associated with either institution.

By Fort Worth Dawg

January 3, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

Florida defensive end Derrick Harvey is entering the NFL draft. I guess Urban will use his freed-up scholarship to bring another wide receiver to Gainesville for that unstoppable spread offense.

By high on the horse

January 3, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

UGA got three breaks to beat a lowsy Tech team and then they beat up on a Hawaii team that didn’t play ANYONE all season. Yes, you’ll be a top 10 team, but your true colors will show when you get exposed by Tenn and Florida. Your victory over Urban was a fluke and a darn good coached fluke I might add. But Florida and Tebo learned from this year and UGA won’t even get to the SEC Championship. Let’s not forget about USC and OSU (again). UGA will have a very hard time moving up the ladder. Your convincing BCS…excuse me…BS win over a vastly overrate Hawaii team isn’t enough to move you to into the top 2 preseason. And bet your marbles that USC will not make the same mistake as last year. And OSU will win a weak big ten schedule again…..while UGA is stuck in the muddy SEC race of just surviving its half of the conference. Face it. Elite or not….UGA peaked at the right time and caught some folks off guard this year. Be honest. Those 3 fumbles out of the back of the endzone against Tech and that one dropped pass on teh first play and UGA would be looking at 10-3 this year. So don’t get all mighty over beating up a weak Hawaii team.

By jamdawg12

January 3, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

Alan, Ga Tech is not a university. It is an institute

By cooper

January 3, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this

alan, the only recruiting service that had tech’s 07 class rated higher than UGA’s was Scouts’ Jamie Newberg. Jamie attended Ga. Tech

By Lpdawg

January 3, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this

High on the horse: check some schedules before you start blabbering. USC and Ohio St play next year. If you’re going to revel in past games, why not chose the forfieted GTech “wins” over UGA in the late 90s. After all, it’s going to be another decade before you’ll see another one. Cooper: Yes, scout.com’s reputation has tanked since rivals hired their best scouting reporters several years ago, but Jaime Newberg is a Florida grad.

By Jay

January 4, 2008 12:31 AM | Link to this

Technically, Tech is a university, although the name has never been changed to reflect that. And, I hope they never do, I still like being an answer to a trivia question.

By luvmehateme

January 4, 2008 5:09 AM | Link to this

I hate to bash a teenager, so read between the lines. Matt Roark was not offered a scholarship by UGA because UGA is not recruiting any quarterbacks this year. It’s not because he’s slow, unatheletic, and has a Byron-Leftwich delivery!

By alan

January 4, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this

Georgia Tech is the 7th ranked University in the nation by US News and World Reports and is a full fledged University. It is still called Georgia Institute of Technology.

By MisterT

January 4, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

DawgDog! What is the source to your rumor? That would be HUGE! I would even pull for CMR as a Falcon. But I really don’t see many more college coaches being given the opporto go directly to the NFL. Bad track record for the jump.

By reading

January 4, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

I just hope all the UGA recruits learn how to read while there. Maybe 1-3 will play at the next level and the degrees they will get will be worthless. Good luck with any trophies or rings you get at UGA. They will look good on you while you’re selling used cars.

By SmarterThanYou

January 4, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

To dawgingatorville, This is from the University System of Georgia website for Fall 06 entering freshman.
GT average SAT = 1329, UGA = 1222

They don’t have stats on GPA’s, but does it really matter? I would not be surprised if GT’s average GPA was lower considering they take real classes even in high school. Anyway, next time try to use facts and not just the BS that pops into your trailer park brain.

By Neutral Observer

January 4, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

As an unbiased observer, I find it funny that readers here start bashing each other for things that are not important. Back in my day, I considered playing football for few schools that tried to recruit me (though none of them being a major conference football school) and some of the factors I took into consideration obviously were the coaching staff, the ability of the current team, the other potential recruits coming in, location, as well as the quality of the degree (since I did not think I was good enough to go professional). Having said that, I don’t think the players are concerned so much about the marginal difference between the different reputations of the degrees of schools that they go to. Sure, Tech is a fantastic science school, but UGA is a great liberal arts school, both has its own advantages, it’s like trying to compare different political figures, everyone has their own preference and views, so this argument is not going to solve or prove any point - everyone is different. If a player thinks he’s going professional for sure, then all he needs to worry about is going to a stellar program, if not, he wants to make sure he is secured for his future after college, so he picks a school with a good academic reputation. I ended up picking academics over football and ended up at a Top 20 university that didn’t have a football program, but hey, that was the decision I made and it proved to be a good one. Had I gone to play football at any of the schools that tried to recruit me, I’ll probably still be working from my hometown or work near where the schools were located.

Some clarifications on some of the points that were mentioned by others here, UGA has more lawyers, doctors, teachers, businessmen and whatnot, sure, but take a look at the numbers. UGA has almost three times the number of students at Tech, of course they’ll have more of those professionals since they’ll be graduating more students. Plus, Tech is a scientific institution, they do not have law schools, medical schools or education program. Tech students can graduate from UGA or Georgia State as lawyers and doctors after obtaining their bachelors (which everyone has to obtain before getting a professional degree), so this doesn’t prove anything. Plus, I think a huge proportion of UGA’s graduates ends up staying in the state of Georgia, if not, mainly in the Southeast, whereas a bigger proportion of Tech’s graduates end up somewhere outside of the state of Georgia or the Southeast than UGA.

UGA is understood among academicians as one of the Public Ivy League universities in the country and one of the best university to attend in the South. Georgia Tech is recognized as a Top 5 engineering school and a Top 10 Public University in the country. Both are great schools, it really depends and what you want. You might want to give yourself a challenge and go to Tech. If you’re looking for towards fun while getting a quality education, you can go to UGA, not saying there’s no challenge there, but it’s a different kind of challenge. If you don’t want to do science, but want to give yourself a challenge, you can’t really go to Tech, can you? So it really matters what you’re looking for. Just to outline more points that were brought up, I believe Tech’s Business School is now ranked higher than UGAs, in terms of both the undergraduate program and MBA. (But it’s just a ranking, that doesn’t necessarily mean anything, you can tweak the methodology and probably say UGA’s Business School is better than Tech’s.)

So fellas, please rest your arguments about which school is better according to you, the players will make the decision themselves and the decision that they make is upon their way of prioritizing what is important.

By techie

January 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

To Neutral, yeah you can tweak the rankings to make either one better but here are two points:

By BuzzFactor

January 4, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

Clean Old Fashioned Hate. Just leave it at that.
I’m just glad more kids go to college today, than 20 years ago.

By alan

January 4, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

Neutral Observer: Good try, but your Dog Blood shows. Georgia has never been called a Public Ivy League University anywhere. It is a pretty good school if you take certain Majors but I got a chuckle at the Ivy League comment. I am friends with some real southern college professors and they got a laugh also.

By Neutral Observer

January 4, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Alan, the Public Ivy reputation is nothing official and is not publicized, it’s just an understanding that cannot precisely be proven. Nevertheless, I hope you get my point. It’s just like the rankings, it can be tweaked. I suggest you take a look at the book ‘The Public Ivies: America’s Flagship Public Universities’ (2001) by Howard and Matthew Greene of Greenes’ Guides. It’s merely a book, but they have some level of credibility. I believe there’s some entry about stuff like this elsewhere on the net, like Wikipedia, but then again, anyone on the planet can enter stuff in Wikipedia.

By Comin' Down The Track

January 4, 2008 7:43 PM | Link to this

Neutral Observer, thank you for showing some class. It is regrettable that techie and alan bashed you for trying to mediate. Allow me to shed some light here. Both schools are fine schools. It should be fairly obvious from which I took a degree. On this blog, the two topics at hand are “education quality as per media perception” and “football team quality as per media perception”. Georgia Tech is currently suffering through what must seem like a never-ending losing streak to Georgia, though the actual number of years is only seven. (I remember losing three straight to George O’Leary’s Tech teams; I thought I would come unhinged. I am also painfully aware of the recent struggles versus Florida, also uncomfortable). The Tech fan then falls back on the “my professor can beat up your professor” rhetoric. A claim that cannot be measured save through academic periodicals; while football team worth measured in the sports dailies, weeklies and monthlies is also suspect and unproveable. Unfortunately, this becomes more difficult to ignore on the field of play. Tech fans, this streak will eventually come to an end. I will not be happy, but you will. As for the academics… apples and oranges. Leave people like N.O. alone. He was only trying to raise the level of debate, and much to his chagrin he was dragged down here with the rest of us. Selah!

By techie

January 5, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

You don’t “raise the level of debate” by stating things that are untrue unless you are Hillary Clinton.

By Sam

January 6, 2008 1:10 AM | Link to this

I love it that the Techies always bring up academics. You know what, the athletes do not care for the most part. They should, but few do. So drop the posturing.

UGA turns out many fine grads; Tech turns out many fine grads, but this is a sports blog so let’s keep it on the sports.

By Comin' Down The Track

January 6, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Gee whiz, techie, I think you may need to take a break and get some perspective. Relax, kid. I think the stress is getting to you.