Football recruiting

By Bill

December 5, 2007 11:05 PM | Link to this

“King plans to enroll at CFU next summer.”

I think you meant UCF.

By Tech Rules!

December 6, 2007 12:34 AM | Link to this

I think if Spurrier moves over and takes the Tech job, then you might see Williams commit to Tech. Our class concerns me right now, but I have heard we are close to getting a commitment from De-Toh Wong, who wants to play both football and ping pong for Tech. Real question is will the Chi-Coms let him play?

By BigCock

December 6, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

Come on Elliot - SIGN w/ SCAR!

We need talented young players that can tackle like you. We also need more bulk to either run block. So it’s a win-win for which ever side you decide to play.

Spurrier played the most freshmen out of all of the SEC schools…may not have been the best move but he will give you an opportunity!

By Reggie Ball

December 6, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

I’m with ya Tech Rules!… when Spurrier makes his announcement to come coach at Tech this week our class will turn around. I understand we’re close to landing 6’ 1” 485 lb. Akbar Al-Quesadilla. He’s the number 1 middle linebacker out of Dubai. The only snag is his H1 visa apparently.

By Navigator

December 6, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Once again George O’Leary is making his presence felt in Georgia. 10-3, Conference Champion, automatic bid to the Liberty Bowl against the SEC may not sound like much, but UCF is a future Big East team. South Florida has already proven, that a Florida University has a huge in road to a lot of high school talent. Like it or not, O’Leary has put together a good coaching staff including one of the smartest QB coaches, George Godsey. Man we could be talking about Georgia Tech, if it hadn’t been for the hiring of David Braine.

By Dash

December 6, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

Lolz at anyone who thinks Spurrier would come to Tech. The difference between South Carolina and Tech - The SEC. Spurrier would not leave South Carolina for its equivalent, talent and status wise, in a worse conference. Looks like you are stuck with your D Coordinator. Have fun.

Georgia Tech and Arkansas - Will take anyone at this point.

By UCF

December 6, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

Please stop calling UCF the Golden Knights, they are know just as the Knights.

By UCF?

December 6, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

Please stop calling UCF the Golden Knights, they are known as the GOLDEN SHOWERS!

By Go Gators!

December 6, 2007 6:45 PM | Link to this

For someone reporting on “Football Recruiting,” there are a lot of inaccurate things in this article. Sorry, but as a Journalism major, this is kind of my thing. First of all, The University of Central Florida is known as UCF, not CFU. Second of all, the UCF Knights dropped the “Golden” from their nickname quite a long time ago. I don’t know, but if a journalist made those simple mistakes about UF, I’d be a bit irritated. Just venting.

GO GATORS!!!

By tangweasel

December 7, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

Everyone knows that Georgia Tech is C(luster)FU.

By tangweasel

December 7, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

Everyone knows that Georgia Tech is C(luster)FU.

By OfurReggie

December 7, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

Spurier at Tech? The North Ave Trade School better be willing to hire someone who will just say yes. Tech has neither the program presitge nor the support from fans to land a big name coach. Hey, who is on your 2009 schedule? I am ready to buy my 3 game, pick any opponent just come, ticket package. Fill your own stadium with your own fans. Then start looking for big name coaches.

By OfurReggie

December 7, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

Spurier at Tech? The North Ave Trade School better be willing to hire someone who will just say yes. Tech has neither the program presitge nor the support from fans to land a big name coach. Hey, who is on your 2009 schedule? I am ready to buy my 3 game, pick any opponent just come, ticket package. Fill your own stadium with your own fans. Then start looking for big name coaches.

By OfurReggie

December 7, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

Spurier at Tech? The North Ave Trade School better be willing to hire someone who will just say yes. Tech has neither the program presitge nor the support from fans to land a big name coach. Hey, who is on your 2009 schedule? I am ready to buy my 3 game, pick any opponent just come, ticket package. Fill your own stadium with your own fans. Then start looking for big name coaches.

By Tangweasel's mom

December 7, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

I am very sorry for the post above.

I am scheduled to go to work late today and my little kid jumped up and started using my computer while I was getting ready. He is really, realy sorry and is repeating what he heard from a low class neighbor of ours.

I really wish the guy would stop talking to my son. I am beginning to worry about all the young little boys he is taking into his trailer also. I guess that is the typical mannerism’s of the UGA fan base though.

You can tell that my son is not very educated yet by both his comments and the fact that he hits the “post” button more than once causing him to post the same thing twice. He is nine years old so please take that into consideration.

From what I am hearing, he should be able to get into UGA though, even with his slow start. If he does well this year, they are planning to let him begin kindergarten next fall. I have to belive that he will be the biggest kid in his class which should help him to get a scholarship at UGA. I hear they have very low acedemic standards there. We are like UGA and the UGA fans, we don’t care if he goes to class or graduates, we just want him to play football. I sure wish that it would have worked out that way for me or my husband so we could have had some college learning…..

By Harv

December 7, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Golden Showers? You sneaky devil you.

By lrgk9

December 7, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Princetonreview.com

UGA Entering Freshmen GPA…..3.75

Ga Tech Entering Freshmen GPA 3.70

By OfurReggie

December 7, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

Weasel, good luck with your 12 yr. old making it to kindergarten this year hope it works out for you.

Oh, and good argument that has anything to do with your pathetic footbal team. Find some fans (Opposition fans don’t count, you need actual Tech fans), find a coach, and try to become revelant. Otherwise, sit back and just take the punches.

By the way, how is Tech doing in your ol’ fallback basketball? I see you hold an ACC record. Oops! That’s for more losses than any other team.

It hurts when there is just no where left to go. Doesn’t it?

By Jessica

December 7, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

what is that? oh yeah, your only good basketball player mike mercer is inelligible. you havent made the tournament since they got rid of that class the taught you the answers to such difficult questions as “how many points do you get for making a three point shot?”

oh and isnt it great to see how highly the country thinks of your football team?

and i guess you would know something about having nowhere to go. uga’s graduate average salary is lower than tech’s undergrad average salary.

would you like fries with that?

By 0furRegie

December 7, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Another good one. Problem is you don’t hear UGA saying, “Wait ‘til basketball season.” The point, unless the higher education you think you received fails you, is that Tech is bad certainly at football and evidently at basketball too.

Talk about what the country thinks of our football team? I’m sorry where are you ranked? Wow, we slip from 4 to 5 and you’d think we had lost to 5-7 Miami. Or maybe have absolutely no votes in the polls. Again, all of these dubious facts represent Tech not UGA.

If you wish to debate and compare teams, you had better call Iowa. They have the same conference record in a superior conference.

By 0furRegie

December 8, 2007 8:46 PM | Link to this

I just depresseded now. My faverit huntin dog up an dieded toodaa. I got a flt tur on the 4X4. I loss my Turd Rassler job down at the Athens Water Works. My dooble-wide bein reposeesed on Mondaa. My gay luvur jus lef me fir some yunger horn dawg. My uGA Dawgs got scammmed out of thir first chance at BCS titel game. Ain’t nuttin goin gud. Wiff my lass $10 I bought a bullet and renteded a gun. I thinking I jus go out bakk an kill myself…I tyred of livin the life of a Dawg!

By alan

December 9, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this

I don’t know why all these top 100 running backs want to sign with Georgia with all these All American backs already on the team now. Do they just like sitting on the bench and cheering for their teammates? Do they just want to get a free education? I don’t get it. Look at the Quarterback Cox, he could start right now for half the SEC teams but he likes splinters in his butt for some reason. I don’t get it.

By P Dawg

December 9, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

OK OfurRegie, I couldn’t help but laugh at that one even though I’m a UGA fan. God love you, at least you guys still have your sense of humor since your football and basketball programs suck.

By It's the Admission Standards!

December 9, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

“I don’t get it.” Well, this is a BIG part of “it”:

ALL GT Athletes are REQUIRED to take (and pass) Calculus. UGA Athletes are admitted even if they can’t SPELL Calculus.

Most UGA Athletes couldn’t care less about an education (free or otherwise). Most GT Athletes choose to attend GT BECAUSE of the education, understanding that there is life after sports.

By JustMe

December 9, 2007 8:09 PM | Link to this

Both UGAy and GA Tech need to start worrying about UCF and O’Leary. We all know that he is a good coach. Now he is using his contacts in the State of GA to get recruits.

UCF will continue to increase in football.

IMHO, the NCAA must move on these smaller schools taking advantages of high school students. They can more easily accept students that score low on the SAT and would not be accepted to other major universities (even UGAy). This means that a great player with low grades is a major target for the UCFs of the nation.

The NCAA has to make it more of a level playing field in recruiting….

By alan

December 9, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this

Hey “admission standards”, I agree with you but now Tech has the Ivan Allen college of Liberal arts Now and these courses apparently do not require Calculus for a BS degree. This is good for TECH football since Calculus scares away a lot of Athletes. Also there is absolutely no reason Tech can’t compete with UGA or anyone for that matter now. PJ will win big. I still don’t get the fact that HS All Americans want to sit on the bench at UGA when they can star at many colleges. It’s not the NFL since just about any obscure college can put a player into the NFL. Look at Romo at Dallas. The argument “I just want to play in the best conference” from a football career standpoint doesn’t hold water if you are on the bench behind an AA.

By It's the Admission Standards!

December 10, 2007 1:13 AM | Link to this

As for UCF, I look at schools like that kind of like this:

1) One of the main reasons for such a topsy-turvy season of “upsets” in FB is because many of these lesser-known schools have started AGGRESSIVELY recruiting more 4 & 5-star players than in years past, and thus have introduced more “parity” to the system, a la Pete Rozelle’s NFL formulation. I believe this “trend” will continue and as a result, CFB will be more exciting than ever for us Fans.

2) With that said, I also believe the Ga Techs in CFB will be less vulnerable to losing prize recruits from this than say the UGAs of the world.

GT and UGA recruit vastly different types of Student-Athletes for FB (for the most part). If HS recruits don’t have the minimum 4 years of advanced math and demonstrate a high confidence level of being able to survive the academic environment at GT, they aren’t pursued even if that means NO 4-star or 5-star players are in the recruiting class. This is a concept that is beyond the comprehension of the average UGA FB Fan who screams: “If they can play, hell, sign ‘em up!”

Most average UGA Fans are ignorant of this and that’s why you constantly hear things like, “GT will never get the quality of players that UGA gets, which is why you will never beat us in FB again!” It’s NOT that GT “couldn’t get” some, even many, of these players…They just wouldn’t survive academically through their Freshman Year. An unfair and preventable situation for both player and the Institute. This is also why the average UGA Fan frequently argues that “UGA is just as hard to get into as GT” (reference the post above by lrgk9)…But it’s to no avail because it’s an argument that’s based on an apples to oranges comparison.

Of course all of this can be explained by the relative importance of athletics at each institution (particularly FB). GT is first and foremost an Academic Institution and athletics is a way for talented students to achieve both their academic and athletic goals. UGA is also first and foremost an Academic Institution…However, it has grown much more dependent upon a “strong” and high-profile athletics program to fulfill its mission.

Consider that if GT suddenly shut-down its FB program forever, the Institute would still be excelling in the education of tomorrow’s leaders 100 years from now. Now consider that if UGA suddenly shut-down its FB program forever, total enrollment might realistically shrink by 50% (maybe more) within 10 years and the very survival of the institution would be in jeopardy beyond 20 years. I don’t mean this to be a judgment on whether or not college FB is “good” or “bad” in an overall context…Just that its relative importance is undeniably different between the 2 schools. This also is somewhat by design of the Presidents Clough and Adams (and those before them). In fact, Adams was recently (1 or 2 years ago) quoted in the AJC in multiple interviews basically saying that athletics was more important at UGA than academics. The fact that he was given more than one opportunity to get it right (but didn’t) set off a chain reaction of events that still probably haven’t completely played out…And it puts an exclamation point on the high importance UGA places on athletics, even to the potential detriment of academics.

UGA’s failure to seek academically-committed recruits as opposed to those “who can play, so sign ‘em up” has come to an ugly fruition with Felton’s recent troubles with some of the BB recruits’ incredible apathy regarding their academic responsibilities. Recruits such as these would obviously be more successful at a school with lower academic standards…And they never would’ve received a second look from GT.

Finally (this is much more than I intended to get into), I also believe that GT still requires a minimum of 4 years of advanced math in HS for EVERYONE along with at least a year of high-level math upon entering GT. Now this may be referred to as Management Calculus or Survey of Calculus I/II or some other term, but it is nonetheless high-level math that most HS graduates are simply not adequately prepared for and many SA have absolutely NO INTEREST in. In fact, back when I was in HS and preparing for GT, I had to take 5 YEARS of math in 4 HS years: Algebra I & II (yrs 1&2), Geometry (yr 3), Trigonometry (yr 3) and a year of HS Calculus (yr 4), and many of you know what I’m talking about (lol). It wasn’t a requirement for a GA HS Diploma…But it WAS a requirement for acceptance at GT. Clearly this is more than is required for a HS Diploma in most states, so it has to be a rational decision on the part of the Student-Athlete (or Non-SA) to have the forethought to choose this course of study.

The next time you see The Soulja Boy Dawgs dancing on the field, ask yourself, “I wonder how many of them took advanced mathematics in HS?”…The answer is exactly WHY they would never be in a GT uniform, even if they could run a 4.2/40. Then ask the same question when you see GT players on the field and the answer will be: all of them (unless the curriculum has broadened more in the past couple of years, which I’m under the impression that it has not, even with the Ivan Allen College.)

Along those lines, I really would like to see GT offer a broader curriculum specifically for SA, even if it’s just a PE major. Many athletes eventually want to earn a PE Degree and go into coaching and/or entrepreneurial endeavors based on this. I see nothing wrong with offering that and it certainly won’t damage GT’s academic reputation. I’ll admit I’m not up on the latest…But I’d bet this is something that’s square in the crosshairs of Radakovich and Clough. Eliminating the calculus or calculus-type requirement, as with broadening the curriculum, would of course have to be approved by the Board of Regents…And they do make changes periodically. So if they HAVE eliminated this requirement, I’d love to hear about it!

It’s late…Good Night & GO JACKETS!!

By OfurReggie

December 10, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

OK, so it seems we have finally all agreed or at least quit disputing that GT has a horrible football team. In response to Jesica: you are correct Mercer is off of our 6-1 basketball team. How many players did you lose to reach 4-4?

I love the Techies using the ND recruiting excuse. “Our admission standards are so high we can’t get the 4 and 5 star recruits.” WAH..WAH..WAH. Would you agree that Stanford, who beat USC, has high standards? How about BC and WF? Both headed to better bowls in the last 2 seasons than GT. By the way, grad rates at these two for 2006? 96 and 93 percent, respectively. Just for reference, Tech was at 55%.

Nice try. Use your supposed intellect to rationalize yet another excuse that will be shot down at the mere sight of actual fact.

Glad to see you found a coach. He actually could be good for the Tech program. Must have gotten Braine out of the way. Step 1: Find coach? Check! Step 2: fill stadium with your own fans? Failure!

By It's the Admission Standards!

December 10, 2007 9:17 PM | Link to this

OfurReggie: You need help. I hate to be the one to break this to you, but everyone in the world has NOT agreed with you that GT has a horrible FB team. Sorry, but wipe your tears, get in touch with reality again and get on with what’s left of your life. A 7-5 record and 11th straight bowl appearance is hardly horrible performance. When you want to watch a truly horrible FB team, turn on the Falcons.

Now, let’s get your logic straight here. You’re claiming that because 1)Stanford beat USC and 2)BC and WF have gone to “better” bowl games the past 2 years than GT and 3)BC and WF have higher grad rates than GT, then this means GT does not have restrictive admission standards that prevent it from recruiting many 4 and 5-star players…Boy, your parents must be proud!

The first thing you should do tomorrow is contact that Admin office at UGA. Set up an appointment to go down there and discuss exactly what has happened to you. You paid them for an edumacation and they let you leave their institution dumb as a friggin door nail!

Average UGA Fans who are ignorant of the different admission requirements between the 2 schools and the FACT that GT has arguably the most restrictive entrance and curriculum requirements of any public university in the US for both SA and non-SA have an excuse…They didn’t KNOW about the difference. But YOU were just informed of these requirements and not one bit of it sunk into your thick skull.

The Meineke Car Care Bowl is now better than The Toyota Gator Bowl? And yes…Braine is out of the way. In fact, he announced in Jan 2006 that he was retiring due to Crohn’s Disease so I’m sure you’ll have a good laugh about that. BTW, when was the last year your 6-1 BB team made the cut to enter the NCAA Tournament? Ours played in the CHAMPIONSHIP GAME in 2004…

And WTF is this Step 1 and Step 2??? We hired a new coach exactly THREE DAYS ago and how many games do you think there have been since then at BDS so we could fill it with our fans? Did you eat read & black LEAD PAINT chips as a child?

If you want first hand experience at GT’s admission standards, then why don’t you apply for acceptance. You don’t have to go…Just apply, you know for sh!ts & giggles. Better yet, just post YOUR HS GPA and SAT scores here along with the math courses you took in HS and I’ll give you an honest assessment of your chances for acceptance at GT. But I know you WON’T post any of that here, now will you?

It’s a shame you don’t even have a clue as to how much RESPECT you should have for GT Student-Athletes…You really have no idea how SPECIAL these individuals are, and that’s a SAD, SAD thing. Like I said…You need help.