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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Go vote.
As the polls were closing on election day four years ago, I sat with a group of George W. Bush campaign officials and supporters listening to reports of exit polls delivering the bad news. Bush was defeated. John Kerry had won the presidency.
Didn’t happen, of course. Within hours, the gloomy crowd of election night had turned jubilant.
It could happen again tomorrow night. Admittedly, the RealClearPolitics.com average of national polls puts Barack Obama up by 6.9 percentage points. But an Investor’s Business Daily poll released Sunday shows it to be a two-point lead, which is within the margin of error. Vote Tuesday.
Much has been made of the surge in early voting by presumed Democrats. But unless there’s massive fraud and people are voting more than once, it matters not one whit whether voters stood in line to vote early or whether they show up on Tuesday. As for me, I’ll vote Tuesday for John McCain and Saxby Chambliss. And I’ll cast my one real and 16 fraudulent ballots against Amendment #2, which invites Georgians to hand over our school taxes to politicians to dole out to favored developers.
I’ve been surprised incidentally at the number of people who suspect or believe that widespread fraud is committed in elections. The case has never been stronger for cross-checking county-to-county and for a foolproof voter ID system. Voters are on the verge of losing confidence in the integrity of the voting system — something ACORN has hastened nationally.
Here’s the last-minute charge: Vote. Pull it out for John McCain. And for goodness sakes, don’t let the Democrats get a filibuster-proof Senate. If they get it, we’ll get every social program and tax increase that Barack Obama has promised — and a judiciary that tilts left for another generation.
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By Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 3, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. Pennsylvania is the keystone state, the jbmlaw bellweather for 2008. Winner there takes all, and, if you all remember Florida 2000, better not rely on the early “projections.” MSM always projects its wishes, not the facts. Traditionally a big turnout is good for democrats, and a record turn out is good for republicans. I am optimistic.
For our friend PoFo:
What’s the definition of optimism? A corporate employee who, after Obama’s election, irons five shirts on a Sunday evening.
What is the capital of Iceland? About $3.50.
What’s the difference between a small business after Obama’s new taxes and a large pizza? The pizza can still feed a family of four.
What does an entrepreneur say after Obama’s new taxes? Would you like fries with that, sir?
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If you thought President Bush’s “homeland security,” born from the controversial Patriot Act was good, you’ll love the national socialists’s “well-funded” internal security force. I suppose the leftists need to protect Amerika from “internal threats.” Maybe they will revive the “fairness doctrine” to silence the opposition. From listening to the national socialists’s talk, you would think that Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and The Wall Street Journal have a strangle-hold on information dissemination in this country; however, if you limit the universe of “information” to “that which is truthful,” perhaps the leftists are correct for once. Wonder what it is about Nuremberg-style rallies that persuade every socialist that he is The One we have been waiting for? You can hear Putin returning to Moscow, claiming he has Herr Obama’s signature on a piece of paper.
You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but real conservatives can see through him. Four sentences I wish I had written:
“For someone who has actually accomplished nothing to blithely talk about taking away what has been earned by those who have accomplished something, and give it to whomever he chooses in the name of “spreading the wealth,” is the kind of casual arrogance that has led to many economic catastrophes in many countries.
“The equally casual ease with which Barack Obama has talked about appointing judges on the basis of their empathies with various segments of the population makes a mockery of the very concept of law.
“After this man has wrecked the economy and destroyed constitutional law with his judicial appointments, what can he do for an encore? He can cripple the military and gamble America’s future on his ability to sit down with enemy nations and talk them out of causing trouble.”
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 3, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this
I said our friend Chad Harris erred Saturday, when he made the preposterous claim the democrats had responsibly- and timely-considered judicial appointments, and Chad objected to my critique. The democrat Senate performed worse than any in history. Chad was wrong. Often wrong, but never in doubt.
By Saxby Sucks
November 3, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
Whether you vote for Buckley or Saxby does not impact whether Martin wins on November 4th. There are 3 possible scenarios: (1) Saxby wins with 50+% (2) Martin wins with 50+% (3) runoff. I can guarantee you one thing, Martin will not get to 50%, so you don’t have to worry about him winning on Nov 4th. A runoff is almost inevitable at this point. After Nov 4th, lets see where the senate races shake out and whether Saxby would tip the scales one way or the other in terms of 60 senators for democrats. If it would, then vote for Saxby in runoff. You can still vote your conscience on all matters right now.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 3, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
I neglected to mention the coal wars. You all saw the link on Drudge, Obama’s frank language, admitting that the leftists’s cap and trade would bankrupt those who would dare to generate electricity from coal. Think that could affect Pennsylvania voters? Some. Not Philadelphians, of course. Additional info on the ongoing leftist effort, exposed:
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 3, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
Hope you all saw this great little argument in today’s WSJ:
“Is it fair for voters to judge Mr. Obama by some of the company he has kept? Mr. Khalidi implied last week that he thinks not. The controversy over his connection to Mr. Obama was “an idiot wind,” he said. But Mr. Khalidi is not shy about judging others by their associations. In explaining the 2003 American invasion of Iraq, Mr. Khalidi pointed to a favorite target of left-wing academics, neoconservative government policy makers and their connections to Israel. He wrote:
“The idea that the neocons and [the Israeli right-wing party] Likud are joined at the hip is reinforced by a revealing piece of intellectual affinity: University of Chicago professor Leo Strauss, the revered mentor of [Deputy Defense Secretary] Paul Wolfowitz, his deputy in the Pentagon Avram Shulsky, and many other neocon leading lights, was a great admirer of Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of the extreme ultranationalist Revisionist branch of Zionism from which Likud has grown.”
“So on the one hand, Mr. Khalidi charges that American voters today would be caught in an “idiot wind” if they worry about Mr. Obama’s connections to radical intellectuals. Yet Mr. Khalidi and many of his colleagues write volumes about how a group of intellectuals supposedly hijacked American foreign policy during this decade. It’s not only the right that argues that friendships — particularly when they are animated by political questions — should be taken into account.”
By Churchill's Mom
November 3, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
Well this might be my last Palin but there is always 2012..Palin-Romney ticket
By Peter Beinart Monday, November 3, 2008; Page A21
Why has America turned on Sarah Palin? Obviously, her wobbly television interviews haven’t helped. Nor have the drip, drip of scandals from Alaska, which have tarnished her reformist image. But Palin’s problems run deeper, and they say something fundamental about the political age being born. Palin’s brand is culture war, and in America today culture war no longer sells. The struggle that began in the 1960s — which put questions of racial, sexual and religious identity at the forefront of American politics — may be ending. Palin is the end of the line.
Last of the Culture Warriors This won’t be the first time a culture war has come to a close. In the 1920s, battles over evolution, immigration, prohibition and the resurgent Ku Klux Klan dominated election after election. And those issues played into that era’s version of the red-blue divide, pitting newly arrived, saloon-frequenting, big-city Catholics against old-stock, teetotaling, small-town Protestants. In 1924, the Democratic convention split so bitterly over prohibition and the Klan that it took more than 100 ballots to nominate a candidate for president.
Then, in the 1930s, the culture war died. A big reason was the Depression, which put questions of economic survival front and center. In the 1920s boom economy, politicians were largely free to focus on identity politics. By Franklin Roosevelt’s election in 1932, that was a luxury America’s leaders could no longer afford.
The other thing that killed the ’20s culture war was generational change. Over time, Catholics and other immigrants left their ghettos and began to assimilate. The cutoff of mass immigration in 1924 ushered in an era of cultural consolidation in which the differences among white Americans came to matter less and less. When Democrats nominated a Catholic, Al Smith, for president in 1928, he lost in a landslide. But by 1960, when they nominated John F. Kennedy, he grabbed a far larger share of the Protestant vote, and won.
Something similar is happening today. Our era’s culture war also began in prosperity. It was in the late 1950s and early 1960s, the high point of America’s postwar boom, that African Americans took to the streets in vast numbers to demand equal rights. And it was in the early 1960s, as a result of the vast increase in postwar college enrollment, that students began challenging the conformity of American life. In 1962, the Port Huron Statement spoke of a generation “bred in at least modest comfort.” It was those middle-class baby boomers who sparked the movements for women’s rights and gay rights and the rise in blue-state secularism, all of which helped touch off this era’s culture war.
The relationship between prosperity and cultural conflict isn’t exact, of course, but it is significant that during this era’s culture war we’ve gone a quarter-century without a serious recession. Economic issues have mattered in presidential elections, of course, but not until today have we faced an economic crisis so grave that it made cultural questions seem downright trivial. In 2000, in the wake of an economic boom and a sex scandal that led to a president’s impeachment, 22 percent of Americans told exit pollsters that “moral values” were their biggest concern, compared with only 19 percent who cited the economy.
Today, according to a recent Newsweek poll, the economy is up to 44 percent and “issues like abortion, guns and same-sex marriage” down to only 6 percent. It’s no coincidence that Palin’s popularity has plummeted as the financial crisis has taken center stage. From her championing of small-town America to her efforts to link Barack Obama to former domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, Palin is treading a path well-worn by Republicans in recent decades. She’s depicting the campaign as a struggle between the culturally familiar and the culturally threatening, the culturally traditional and the culturally exotic. But Obama has dismissed those attacks as irrelevant, and the public, focused nervously on the economic collapse, has largely tuned them out.
Palin’s attacks are also failing because of generational change. The long-running, internecine baby boomer cultural feud just isn’t that relevant to Americans who came of age after the civil rights, gay rights and feminist revolutions. Even many younger evangelicals are broadening their agendas beyond abortion, stem cells, school prayer and gay marriage. And just as younger Protestants found JFK less threatening than their parents had found Al Smith, younger whites — even in bright-red states — don’t view the prospect of a black president with great alarm.
The economic challenges of the coming era are complicated, fascinating and terrifying, while the cultural battles of the 1960s feel increasingly stale. If John McCain loses tomorrow, the GOP will probably choose someone like Mitt Romney or Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal to lead it back from the wilderness, someone who — although socially conservative — speaks fluently about the nation’s economic plight and doesn’t try to substitute identity for policy. Although she seems like a fresh face, Sarah Palin actually represents the end of an era. She may be the last culture warrior on a national ticket for a very long time.
By CwnBt
November 3, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
Would this be what Obama has in mind for a civilian national security force?
By Ga Values
November 3, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
Why I can’t Vote for Saxby Chambliss(Socialist,Ga). Saxby’s Gang of 10 Traitors has helped elect OBAMA. His vote for the $700,000,000,000.00 Wall Street Bailout with an added $153,000,000,000.00 of pork was done after he got over $2,000,000.00 from Wall Street LOBBYIST. Saxby worked with Pelosi, Reid, Boxer & Kennedy on the ILLEGAL AMNESTY Bill & to over ride President Bush’s Veto of the PORK filled Farm Bill. Saxby is owned by LOBBYIST including his son Bo. We need a Senator who will work for Georgia not out of state special interest. I have been working for Allen Buckley, Libertarian Candidate. He is a good honest man who will work for us. http://www.buckleyforsenate.com/welcome.asp
By Ga Values
November 3, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this
Why I can’t Vote for Saxby Chambliss(Socialist,Ga). Saxby’s Gang of 10 Traitors has helped elect OBAMA. His vote for the $700,000,000,000.00 Wall Street Bailout with an added $153,000,000,000.00 of pork was done after he got over $2,000,000.00 from Wall Street LOBBYIST. Saxby worked with Pelosi, Reid, Boxer & Kennedy on the ILLEGAL AMNESTY Bill & to over ride President Bush’s Veto of the PORK filled Farm Bill. Saxby is owned by LOBBYIST including his son Bo. We need a Senator who will work for Georgia not out of state special interest. I have been working for Allen Buckley, Libertarian Candidate. He is a good honest man who will work for us. http://www.buckleyforsenate.com/welcome.asp
By JK**
November 3, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
Why do you support Saxby?
Do you still support Saxby in thinking tax cuts without proper spending cuts are a good idea?
Do you still support Saxby on unlimited signing authority by the executive branch?
Do you still support Saxby on BIO FUEL (Farm Bill) scam?
Do you still support Saxby on education via the failed heavy handed Federal Program NCLB?
Do you support Saxby on the bailout bill?
I could ad more but this alone would be interesting!
By Aquagirl
November 3, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Rag—-feeling the need for multiple posts today? I don’t blame you, the right-wingers need to get their last desperate, feeble jabs in, before Wednesday’s donning of sackcloth and ashes.
By jim is a caveman
November 3, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
The mood may have turned to jubiliation on election night 2004, but there is no joy in Mudville today. The joke has been on this country. The best thing about tomorrow is the fact it signals that our current White House occupant is truly headed out the door. It also says something about Jim and the GOP’s inordinate desire to win elections (not govern, just win) that he looks back on 2004 so fondly. Maybe if they put as much effort into doing their job as they do into getting and maintaining their job, this country wouldn’t be so bad off. On behalf of all Americans, especially those who have suffered economically in recent months, I say to Dubya, “Here’s your hat, what’s your hurry?”
By getalife
November 3, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
Thanks for w and destroying our country Jim. You gave us our worst president ever and have no remorse.
Think “country first” be a “real American” and don’t reward a failed gop.
By Redneck Convert
November 3, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
Well, the more I think about it the more I think Raghead is right. A bunch of us have been doing a load of praying and we beleive God won’t let the American people elect a towel-head and a Terrist and one of Those People besides as president of the U. S. of A. So around 11 tomorrow night I expect to see old man McCain showing his dull gray teeth and thanking the people of America for electing him.
But just in case I’ve been putting my spare change in my cement vault so this Pelousy woman can’t get her grimy hands on it. I seen yesterday where the IRS is chasing down people that have secret overseas bank accounts and making them pay tax. So Raghead and AJCCommie and other big-shots may have a problem, but nobody knows where I keep my cement vault so my money’s safe.
Anyhow, cheating on your taxes is as American as PBR. And this Obama and the gang of librul Democrats in Congress are all anti-American.
So I expect to be sellabrating big-time Wednesday morning. Raghead ain’t never been wrong and wouldn’t admit it if he was, so it will be four more years of godly Republicans in the White House. Now that she’s had all the witches cast out, like the Bible says to do, this Palin woman can take over after old man McCain kicks the bucket. And the little stems will be able to keep all their cells away from the evil scientists and we will finally see women made to have the babys they make and Trickle Down will go on forever and pretty soon us little people will be swimming in money.
Have a good day everybody. And be sure to vote Republican. If you can’t vote Republican, then don’t vote. This Handel woman is trying, but we have to do our part.
By IM
November 3, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
Yes, I know it is the ‘DemocratIC’ party, but mainly they act more like rats, although I support JIM MARTIN in this race because Saxby Chambliss is STEALING FROM ME and giving my money to crooks.
By findog
November 3, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
Jim,
You are correct everyone should get out there and vote, especially center-right moderates. Not so much to save the chicken hawk RINO but for the many down ballot positions and proposals. Too many will fail to go beyond the top three: President, Senate, and Representative. There are important positions of local control much more important; let alone the different proposals to amend the constitution.
Local control decides how those unfunded mandates from Washington get implemented and funded. We need people in the State House that will un-do their boutique fuel answer to air quality. We need elected officials that make decisions instead of proposing to add more crap to our bloated constitution here in Georgia. And finally we need local officials to put these SPLOST on a general ballot and to explain why the last set of promises were not kept before we buy into another round on penny public works projects.
By southfulton
November 3, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Saxby was my congressman and I’ved voted for him since he served my district in south Georgia. Time to Go…He’s not the same guy and Jim knows this.
By Aquagirl
November 3, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
So Raghead and AJCCommie and other big-shots may have a problem, but nobody knows where I keep my cement vault so my money’s safe.
Joke’s on you, Redneck, everyone knows it’s right beside the cement pond.
By findog
November 3, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Aquagirl, Always glad to see a moderate’s return, although sackcloth and ashes is a bit Hooverish…
By ron
November 3, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
Good morning,Tomorrow is the day,boys and girls.McCain needs your vote.’nuff said there.My wife’s taking people with her tomorrow.
The way to have a nice small business after the Obama confirmaton is to start a big one.
What’s the difference between a recession and a depression?—Obama
Which cost more a Chevy or a Ford?—-Makes no difference,you won’t be able to afford one anyway.
Who can spend more than Pelosi and Reid?—-Pelosi,Reid and Obama.
Simplified tax form under Obama—-Send in what you make,we’ll send you back some.
Obama’s Civilian Rat Patrol—Never a sleight not reported.Designed to protect Democrats from those nasty bogeymen.
Who’s that under the bus,there?——Americas workers.
By Shrugging Atlas
November 3, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
It’s not over yet, but this is great. Ragnar staying up all night to try and find something that will change the course of history. Jim, trying to “get the vote out”. It’s so sad. But yes, do vote, and vote for Obama.
Gotta love the smell of desperation in the morning.
Obama ‘08
By jm
November 3, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
I wonder what the impact to the economy will be when all those political ads cease to run on Wednesday. Where will the MSM go to fill in the empty timeslots?
By georgeana mimms
November 3, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this
John McCain has you people fooled. If your family makes less than $250K, or you make less than $200K as an individual — you have to be nuts to vote for John McCain.
Haven’t the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy done enough for us in the past 8 years already? We’re in a recession! Headed for a depression because of the same economic plan! What are you thinking?! Are you nuts? Do you really believe in Joe the Plumber. The guy was a set up. Do you not care about your families?
McCain is the one who is going to TAX the regular guy. OBAMA is going to give you a tax cut. McCain lies to you about that and you believe him. Since when did any Republican ever give the regular guy a break?
McCain has 8 homes. You honestly think he cares about you? He wants to privatize social security so his buddies on Wall Street can make more money by putting your money in stocks. He wants to gives your employer a reason to take away your health insurance — and provide you with a tax credit of $5K for insurance that costs a family $12K a year.
McCain is just like George Bush. Everything he ever did — he did because his family pulled strings. He wants to prove he’s better than his father and grandfather, just like Bush wanted to do. McCain will take us into another war that’ll cost us another $10 billion a month — WE DON’T HAVE THAT MONEY! He doesn’t even take care of the Veterans. He has a terrible score from Veterans. He lies and you believe him.
THINK! If you can’t handle voting for a black guy — then vote for his WHITE HALF. He’s smarter, his plans are better — and we’ll be out of this recession in under 3 years with Obama.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 3, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
Dear Aquagirl @ 9:12, good morning. This always happens when I start too early and with too much coffee, a Wooten-inspired logorrhea. As to ashes and sackcloth, I have studied our democrat friends carefully and think they are more into unrepentant bombers, so maybe I’ll embrace a different strategy, just so they will like me. They’ll like me, they’ll really, really like me. I know how to play to the cultists.
By old91A10
November 3, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
PUMA for McCain/Palin and The Constitution — done deal — convinced many others.
It’s the perfidious company zerObama keeps.
Ayers, Dohrn, Farrakhan, Wright, Pfleger, Caldwell, McClurken, Daley, Lippert, …, Rezko, Blagojevich, Auchi, Al Monsour, Khalidi, Johnson, Raines, Odinga, Pritzker, Groelich, Axelrod, Gibbs, Dunn, (Susan)Rice, …, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid, Frank, Schumer, Brazille, Dean, Powell, McClellan, Olbermann, Maddow, ….
Traitors, Terrorists, Racists, Misogynists, Elitists, Miscreants, Fear-mongers, Thugs, and Worse.
I suppose that kills my chances for getting into zerObama’s Civilian National Security Force.
By Copyleft
November 3, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
Now is the time for any last-minute fearmongering and cheap personal attacks, right-wingers!
Sure is dark outside… good thing we have Wooten’s whistling to guide the way.
By GA Conservative
November 3, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
A speechwriter for Reagan and Nixon—who worked at the National Review for four decades—on why he’s voting for Obama.
It may be something of a surprise that, as a long time conservative, I now support Barack Obama. In 1968, I was a speechwriter first for Ronald Reagan, when Governor of California, then, as Richard Nixon became the presidential nominee, a speechwriter for Nixon, working at his home office at 450 Park Avenue. I became a senior editor at National Review in 1969, a position I held until recently.
There are common sense conservatives who are prudential, who try to match means with ends, and who calculate the probabilities of gains and risks. But there are philosophical (analytical) conservatives, the most useful being Edmund Burke, whose “Reflections on the Revolution in France” (1790) understood the great dangers in trying to change society through abstract (republican) theory. My first book that dealt with these matters was “English Political writers: From Locke to Burke” (Knopf, 1963).
One thing I know is that both Nixon and Reagan would have agreed with Obama’s speech against the Iraq War… But all the organs of the conservative movement followed Bush over the cliff—as did John McCain.
Republican President George W. Bush has not been a conservative at all, either in domestic policy or in foreign policy. He invaded Iraq on the basis of abstract theory, the very thing Burke warned against. Bush aimed to turn Iraq into a democracy, “a beacon of liberty in the Middle East,” as he explained in a radio address in April 2006.
I do not recall any “conservative” publication mentioning those now memorable words “Sunni,” “Shia,” or “Kurds.” Burke would have been appalled at the blindness to history and to social facts that characterized the writing of those so-called conservatives.
Obama did understand. In his now famous 2002 speech, while he was still a state senator in Illinois, he said: “I know that a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, of undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without international support will fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than the best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al Qaeda. I’m not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.”
Burke would have agreed entirely, and admired the cogency of so few words. And one thing I know is that both Nixon and Reagan would have agreed. Both were prudential and successful conservatives. But all the organs of the conservative movement followed Bush over the cliff—as did John McCain.
Obama was the true conservative, the Burkean. Like the French radicals of 1790, Bush wanted to democratize Iraq, turn it, as he said in a speech at Whitehall, into a “beacon of liberty in the Middle East.” Now, Robespierre and the other radicals were criticized by Burke for wanting to turn France into a republic. Not a bad idea, but they tried to do it all at once, and according to republican theory.
Maxmillien Robespierre himself would have been horrified by the notion of democratizing Mesopotamia. That may—possibly—happen. But it will take a long time, an Enlightenment, and the muting of sectarian hatreds.
Social Security has long been considered one of the most successful New Deal programs, working well now for 70 years. Yet in 2005, the Bush plan to establish private accounts that could be invested in the Stock Market got nowhere. McCain, too, has embraced this idea. In 2008 it looks ridiculous. The Stock Market! Again, this is a radical proposal, not a conservative one.
Ever since Roe vs. Wade, abortion has been a salient controversy in our politics. But the availability of abortion is linked to the long advancement of women’s equality. Again, we are dealing with social change, and this requires understanding social change, a Burkean imperative that Obama understands.
On my Dartmouth campus, half the undergraduates are women. They do not want to have their plans derailed by an unwanted pregnancy. In Planned Parenthood vs. Casey, the Court ruled that the availability of abortion “enables women to participate equally in the economic and social life of the country.”
Though there is a tragic aspect to abortion, as Obama recognizes, women’s equality means that women have control of their reproductive capability. Men don’t worry about that. The fact is that 83 percent of elective abortions occur during the first trimester, and decline rapidly after that.
Both Obama and McCain support federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research, Obama more urgently. The conservative movement publications, following Bush, have been fiercely opposed. Such opposition required a belief that a cluster of cells (the embryo) the size of the period at the end of this sentence is as important (more important?) than a seriously ill human being.
I myself cannot fathom such a mentality.
In fact, embryonic stem cell research is being energetically pursued in the following nations: Israel, Singapore, South Korea, Japan, China cooperating with the EU. Privately funded and state funded laboratories are moving ahead vigorously.
Recently, Harvard announced a program that will be part of a multi-billion dollar science center to be established south of the Charles River, and will be able to supply sem cells to other laboratories. I call that Pro-Life.
This analysis could be extended, but it seems clear to me that Obama is the conservative in the 2008 election.
By Shrugging Atlas
November 3, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
Nice try old91A10. It’s not often I would call out someone as ignorant as yourself, but lets also look at some relationships of McSames…
Jim Hensley, Convicted Felon G. Gordon Liddy, Convicted Felon Charles Keating, Convicted Felon Raffaello Follieri, Convicted Felon Rick Renzi, Under Indictment Rick Davis, Freddie Mac Lobbyist Charles Black, Lobbyist for Dictators Richard Quinn, White Supremist Pastor John Hagee, Bigot Pastor Rod Parsley, Bigot Todd Palin, Member of Secessionist Group Andrew McCain, Resigned Manager Savings & Loan.
Shall we go on? That’s what I thought.
By FOX/GOP Management
November 3, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
Hahahaaaa! Hearts are pumping…Blood pressures are rising….PANIC SETS IN FOR JIM WOOTEN!!!
We the People, will declare our verdict in just under 48 hours
Panic sets in for Jim Wooten!!
F-Word Network/GOP Management
By making
November 3, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
Republicans in heavily Demo area, please vote very slowly tomorrow and bog the flow of lines.
By old91A10
November 3, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
A vote for zerObama is a vote for: Ayers, Dohrn, Farrakhan, Wright, Pfleger, Caldwell, McClurken, Daley, Lippert, …, Rezko, Blagojevich, Auchi, Al Monsour, Khalidi, Johnson, Raines, Odinga, Pritzker, Groelich, Axelrod, Gibbs, Dunn, (Susan)Rice, Biden, Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid, Frank, Schumer, Brazille, Dean, Powell, McClellan, Olbermann, Maddow, ….
By Disgusted
November 3, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
Tomorrow is the day,boys and girls.McCain needs your vote.’nuff said there.My wife’s taking people with her tomorrow.
Hey, ron, in just about every post you make you blast the Republicans and take a liberal position. But when it comes to Obama, you’re for McCain all the way.
What gives? Could it be that Obama is one of Those People?
By Shrugging Atlas
November 3, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
A vote for McSame is a vote for: Jim Hensley, Convicted Felon; G. Gordon Liddy, Convicted Felon; Charles Keating, Convicted Felon; Raffaello Follieri, Convicted Felon; Rick Renzi, Under Indictment; Rick Davis, Freddie Mac Lobbyist; Charles Black, Lobbyist for Dictators; Richard Quinn, White Supremist; Pastor John Hagee, Bigot; Pastor Rod Parsley, Bigot; Todd Palin, Member of Secessionist Group; Andrew McCain, Resigned Manager Savings & Loan.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 3, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Dear GA Conservative @ 11:06, what a great argument! Republicans are the real “change” agents, pursuing a better more humane world, and Obama and the democrats are the mean-spirited opponents of freedom and preserving the status quo. I think I could not have made that argument so clearly.
Dear Shrugger @ 11:09, you magnify the magnificence of the law when you criminalize political differences. Jim Hensley? I thought he muppet guy died years ago - did ACORN arrange it so he could still vote? I don’t know anyone else on your list except Liddy, and I am a great fan of him. He may be the only honest man on the political scene today.
By Dusty
November 3, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
To..Obama the Charmer and Devil may care,
Let’s hope you lose your “golden” chair.
You tried to make it a throne
But Americans got worn..
Tired of the promises, the lies and the tax,
Tired of old “friends” and no pertinent facts.
So dance your pretty step and make a super speech,
Make it “farewell” in this last long week.
By Do the Math
November 3, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Jim: You are still not telling the truth about Tax Allocation Districts. Money is not given or handed to developers. A bond needs to be sold and the bond pays for projects related to redevelopment. I don’t think you know what you are talking about.
By Frost
November 3, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
Ragnar Danneskjöld Gasping for wind this morning, i see.Good morning sir.
U think ur rednekk compatriots read wsj?Nice try…
Anything i can do to help u make this day go slower sir.Lemme know!
By ron
November 3, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
I wonder if Rush Limbaugh has learned to say Obama’s name with the same venomous accent as he can say Clinton’s?I f I could stand to listen to him I’d find out.Will one of you guys that are a little farther to the right there report how he handles this?
Jane Fonda will be appointed ambassador to Viet Nam.
Sean Penn wil be liason to Venesuela.
Colin Powell will put to ferreting out slingshots here at home.
Barbara Striesand for Secretary of Defense.
Secretary of State,John Kerry.
I have to get a life now.
By Shrugging Atlas
November 3, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
Oh Dusty, you’re so silly. I’m sure you can’t wait for the election to be over, I know it’s been driving you crazy. You’re just not your fluid self these days.
As for old Rags, you are a funny one. You should try putting down your Ayn Rand books for a few minutes, to live in reality, and to do some vetting of your own candidate. I only bring it up to show that people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, as old91A10 has done. But you missed the point and chose to make light of a convicted felon, and I know you’re not that dumb to be someone who doesn’t know who John McSames father-in-law was, and his sordid past. Class act you are, old rags. Once the election is over yourself, Jim and Dusty can follow Palin and McSame into obscurity.
We bid you a fond farewell.
By fearless fosdik
November 3, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
RAGNAR…
Surely you jest…You don’t know who Jim Hensley is? Ever heard of Cindy (NEE Hensly) McCain?
And, if you don’t know who the rest of the crooks “Shrugging Atlas” cites.
Perhaps you need to do some serious studying!
By Sallied Parry
November 3, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
CNN is reporting a sara palin wardrobe malfunction at a Pennsylvania Rally. Her gaff concerned a business suit she wore that seemed to have come off the rack at Macy’s. Gasps of shock were clearly heard in the gathering of Jimmy Choos and Valentinos at the unprecedented fashion faux pas as the elite bush base lost their last reason to believe that sara palin is one of them. Fox is refusing to carry the story, and instead is running police artist sketches of how Osama Bin Laden would look if he wore Obama’s selection of suits.
By Frost
November 3, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
He was elected to the U.S. Senate.” So was John McCain … several times
47 vs 72,he can be senator many times by 72……
President at 48!! Go Barack! And Mcain at 48???????
What a feat.
By Dusty
November 3, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
Georgia Conservative aka Dartmouth Democrat
College girls should NOT have their education interupted by pregnancy!!! Who eee ..what a stinker. Ever heard of NOT getting pregnant?
Stem cell research has continued under the Bush administration. Only embryonic stem cell research will not be *funded by the government.
Reagan would have seen the dangers in Iraq and would never had agreed with Obama’s negative vote. And why this writer has not read the words,” Kurds, Shia and Sunni” in GOP literature is because he only reads Dem lit. He is even puzzled that Bush could foresee a free Iraq.
Sorry, Regnar, I see only another Obama supporter trying to back his way into a rational way to do it involving stem cells, Iraq and student pregnancy. It amounts to the same liberal song and dance only done at the opera this time.
By making
November 3, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
Obama…human smoke screen and the demos don’t have enough sense to realize it.
Pew Poll has McCain over Obama by 1%…
By MCCAIN/PALIN 08
November 3, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
NOBAMA 08
By Drew
November 3, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
I may vote for Saxby but I’ll be holding my nose. I’m still baffled by the Dubai ports deal and his ‘compromise’ on offshore drilling. I’m very unhappy with the bailout, but it’s it presses the bounds of reality to imagine Jim Martin would’ve gone against Dem leadership to vote against it either. Meanwhile, Jim Martin’s (and the DNC’s) carpet-bomb ads lying about the Fair Tax are utterly despicable and only underline why we can’t be complicit in sending a filibuster-proof Dem majority to the Senate.
Saxby Chambliss: He’s Better Than That Guy.
By Scott
November 3, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
Ohhhh Grandpa…..
By The Last Resort
November 3, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
The names DIEBOLD, but my friends call me “The Rigger”.
By Scott
November 3, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
Ohhhh Grandpa…..
By robert
November 3, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this
I pushed the button for Kerry in 04 and it came up Bush. Went back and changed it and the machine got it right the second time but no paper trail. I don’t think it really mattered in GA but it seems pretty common for the machines to be out of wack how easy is it to hack into one in a close election and change votes. 04 was the first election in history where the exit polls were wrong. If Obama doesn’t win tomorrow I’m going to start thinking this country is a 3rd world Bananna Republic.
By Dusty
November 3, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
Dear Struggling Atlas,11:39
Don’t sing your smug farewell love song yet. You may need it for Obama.
But you may be right about one thing. I am sure that McCain is the ONLY one prepared for the Presidency of the USA. For the first time in my life, I put out a McCain sign in the front yard. No bumper sticker but a nice big SIGN.
I do not take lightly the chance of putting an ambitious socialist in office. Obama is a great entertainer and can draw crowds almost bigger than a football game. That does not make him a football player or a man to run this country. But some people will settle for an entertainer. Not me. I will take the steady, experienced, PATRIOTIC candidate to run this country.
READ MY SIGN!!It’s McCain Palin 2008!!!
By Frost
November 3, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
Making Luv?? at least stop to watch tv and listen carefully….
November 2, 2008 · The final Pew Research Center poll of the 2008 presidential election gives Barack Obama a 49 to 42 percent lead over his rival, John McCain. Though still a significant lead, it’s suddenly a much tighter race than Obama’s 15-point lead from last week
By One Voice
November 3, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this
The problem with invoking 2004 in this instance is that Bush was actually up by 2% in national polling the day before the election. The result validated the polling. Today Obama is up nationally by a range of between 4 and 13 points, according to the current polls, so in actuality it falls somewhere in between, probably 7 or 8 points.
The problem with using Florida 2000, Ragnard, is that Gore had no margin of error and had to win that one state (and probably really did). That’s what happens when you have millions of people vote and have a difference of less than 1000. This time Obama can win in any number of ways, and there are no must-win states besides the ones that are safely in his column, which tally 286 electoral votes. This time it is McCain who has no margin of error, and he must not only sweep ALL the swing states, but pull at least one sure bet from Obama. Won’t happen.
And Obama is now up in Pennsylvania by 11 points.
It’s over. But vote anyway. I have.
By making
November 3, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
Frosty the clown…sure is funny the liberal CBS and NBC both ran the story last night on the evening news… Pew Poll with McCain having a 1% lead over Obama. What could the media be wrong…you betcha, remember someone named GORE and KERRY…how soon they forget! Demos will never learn, you can’t out fox the Republicans…the party of leaders…yes even Bush leads, as the worst President ever…watch McCain turn the Bush years around!
By Sallied Parry
November 3, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
CNN is reporting a sara palin wardrobe malfunction at a Pennsylvania Rally. Her gaff concerned a business suit she wore that seemed to have come off the rack at Macy’s. Gasps of shock were clearly heard in the gathering of Jimmy Choos and Valentinos at the unprecedented fashion faux pas as the elite bush base lost their last reason to believe that sara palin is one of them. Fox is refusing to carry the story, and instead is running police artist sketches of how Obama would look if he wore Palin’s $350 panties. That’s dirty pool. Palin’s panties, you remember, dont have days of the week written on them, but rather different hunting quarry, like wolf, moose, elk, bear and possom. She is so organized!
By vonnie
November 3, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
John McCain could have had my vote. I made up my mind that whoever did not vote for the bailout would get my vote. There was his chance to stand out as a maverick. I think he would have been a shoo in if he had not voted for that bailout. So undecided I am, but you know what, Obama will not get my vote either, he also voted for the bailout. I will have to write in someone, because no one running independently impresses me. It has been proven that these investment houses just wanted the money to secure their own lives. Elsewise, why have they gone through almost 350 billion and we, the people, don’t know where it went. Oh we know that they continued life as usual, but life as usual is the problem.
Here’s another dilemma. Democrats tax and spend but Republicans borrow and spend. So looking at the two, taxes are going to go up, it is just a matter of when.
By BS Aplenty
November 3, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this
Voting is such fun.
By making
November 3, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
Obama is a cross-dresser…OMG, boy he’s amazing! He’ll do anything to please anyone…
By Sallied Parry
November 3, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
There is more than a little pathos in reading the Right’s melancholy fantasies about electoral destiny.
Obama 08: The Right. The might. The fight.
63/37 landslide victory 4 obama. McCain will get more than Mondale’s 4 electoral votes, however.
By fearless fosdik
November 3, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
The Gallup has it 55% to 44%. Obama!
By AGTFan
November 3, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Wooten is right. It’s not over yet. Everyone has a chance to influence history. Get out there and vote for McCain so we can all experience a new Great Depression. And understand what our grandparents went through.
By making
November 3, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
That’s the same % they gave President Kerry…I mean Senator Kerry!
By Smell the baloney
November 3, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
When all the blather and posturing are said and done, the only numbers that count are the votes in the electoral college. So posture on, pander on, BS on. It will all come out in the wash.
By making
November 3, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
That’s the same % they gave President Kerry…I mean Senator Kerry!
By Frost
November 3, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
making luv, so u have ur own news portal,noone else can access. Loser,dont look it be4 the elections.We still got a day to go…..
By AnonyMoose
November 3, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
Everyone, please pray for Brother Wooten tomorrow evening around 7pm when it is announced that Senator Obama has won Virginia and is therefore the President Elect.
By making
November 3, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
Maybe Oprah will give Obama a show like she did for Dr Phil…not bad for 2nd place.
By Shrugging Atlas
November 3, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
Dusty, Wow a sign!! You must really support McSame. I guess you didn’t have the confidence to put a bumper sticker on your car. We know, a sign is so much easier to take down on Wednesday.
Also, what you and the rest of your repugnant friends fail to see, or are just too scared of, is the fact that a true leader is able to rally the country around him, that’s why you will lose this election. Having said that, I really won’t feel comfortable until year three of the Obama term. You repugnants will do anything to win.
By Lauren
November 3, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
President Bush has caused problems for the whole world and may very well have brought the US down off superpower status. He has been a total disaster. This election is as much about electing Obama as it is about getting rid of the Republican leadership in Washington. This election is also a very different one from 4 years ago and Mr.Wooten is foolish to make a comparison. My guess is, just like two years ago when the GOP lost the midterms, Wooten will go on vacation on Wednesday and cowardly hide from all the “I told you so” posts he would get if he stuck around. McCain is going down and as a reaction the GOP is going to go even further to the right. If they do they will never win the White House again until they learn. GOOD RIDDANCE!!!
By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
November 3, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
The firm Bo Chambliss (Son of Saxby the Socialist) lobbies for.. & you think Saxby will not vote with OBAMA..From the NYTimes
“But that is not a unanimous position in farm country. One dissenter, perhaps not surprisingly, is the American Corn Growers Association, which endorsed Senator Barack Obama in August.
“While John McCain is a great man and a true hero, he has built a very pronounced and consistent record on agriculture and ethanol during his 22 years as a U.S. senator, and it is perhaps the single most negative record of any senator,” said the corn growers’ president, Keith Bolin, at the time. “When compared to Senator Obama, who supports the expansion of renewable energy such as advanced ethanol, biodiesel and wind generated electricity, our decision was obvious.”
Mr. McCain has long opposed government subsidies to the ethanol industry — subsidies that, if discontinued, would affect every link in the ethanol supply chain as it is now configured, from corn farmers to fuel blenders and distributors. He also promises to end the tariff currently imposed on ethanol from sugar cane, which has protected the American corn ethanol industry from an influx of cheaper Brazilian fuel.
Mr. Obama, on the other hand, supports ethanol subsidies as part of his wider energy plan, a fact that has garnered him support among growers, but makes some greens uncomfortable. They argue that the subsidies accrue in large part to corporate farming interests, rather than family farmers, and that the incentives encourage crop expansion with little regard to environmental side effects.
By making
November 3, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this
NO extended hours for Fulton or Clayton…projecting lines of 4-6 hours wait…well at least it’s a day off with pay!
By @@
November 3, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this
Timing is everything Jim.
In the event of an OBlahMa win, I’m finding sweet irony in the fact that HIS “chicken in every pot” approach will leave HIS supporters………well…….plucked.
OBlahMa!!!!! The dem party’s Hoover, just waiting to demonstrate how quickly and efficiently he can suck the life from America’s economy, not to mention the vacuum he’ll leave on Iraq’s doorstep.
By II
November 3, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
AIG is HAPPY……Thanks to Saxby and the GOP administration, they were given $125 BILLION in September that is now GONE!
The damage that Saxby has wrought is breathtaking.
Obama supporter Warren Buffett is also ‘happy,’ for the Saxby Bailout gives a government GUARANTEE of his 9% preferred stock dividends, while frugal Georgians are capped at 3 to 4% on their savings.
The Kuwaiti’s are also happy that the Saxby Bailout saved their 10% preferred from being wiped out.
Finally, the Morgan Stanley crowd is HAPPY that they get $10 billion in bonuses courtesy of the Saxby Bailout. They are also HAPPY to get 1% money from the SAxby Bailout that they can reinvest at 4%.
Saxby is HAPPY because he has so many happy idiots supporting his theft from them.
By II
November 3, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
Saxby Economics don’t trickle down on me
“One in five US homeowners with mortgages underwater” Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:12pm EDT
“NEW YORK, Oct 31 (Reuters) - Nearly one in five U.S. mortgage borrowers owe more to lenders than their homes are worth, and the rate may soon approach one in four as housing prices fall and the economy weakens, a report on Friday shows.”
“Seven hard-hit states — Arizona, California, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada and Ohio — had 64 percent of all “underwater” borrowers, but just 41 percent of U.S. mortgages.”
“Yet despite a series of expensive government programs to spur lending, mortgage rates are rising, making it tougher to borrow or refinance. The rate on a 30-year fixed-rate mortgage jumped this week to 6.46 percent from 6.04 percent a week earlier”
By making
November 3, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this
I don’t have a mortgage…paid cash for my homes! People should learn to buy what they can afford…no one held a gun to their heads to sign the mortgage papers.
By II
November 3, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
Saxby Economics don’t trickle down on me
AIG taps $20.9B in additional Fed credit line Friday October 31, 6:07 pm ET By Ieva M. Augstums, AP Business Writer
“In total, the government has put about $144 billion at AIG’s disposal.”
“The company has incurred interest and fees of about $331 million so far.”
“It also plans to keep an ownership interest in its foreign life-insurance operations.”
By John
November 3, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
Fox News Calls It For Obama!!
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/03/fox-news-poll-obama-leads-going-election-day/
Republican leaning Rasmussen and Zogby Polls today show undecideds breaking for Obama as his lead increases.
Republicans still hope that white voters who have said they will vote for Obama will have a change of heart when actually facing the voting booth. How would you like that to be your “campagin” strategy on the day before the election????
By kd bart
November 3, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
It’s been over for weeks. McCain even knows it’s over. Why else would he appear on SNL the other night?
By making
November 3, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this
Demos…Fox has called it for Obama…THERE IS NO NEED IN VOTING TOMORROW…enjoy the day!!!
By DAB
November 3, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
Saxby has ignored his constituents, betrayed his base, harmed his state and his nation. If his previous voting record were not enough, the energy bill that he “reached across the aisle and came up with” should be enough to convince anyone that Martin certainly could do no worse.
I am very much a conservative, but there is no way we should return Saxby to Washington, better to have an uber liberal Martin for six years and then send someone with principles to represent us. IMO, Saxby is worse than worthless, and labeling him RINO is an insult to RINOS.
By Matt
November 3, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
Lefty LOONEY
Righty MIGHTY
By Aquagirl
November 3, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Dear John @ 1:21—would that be the same Rasmussen that had Obama slightly ahead in the California Primary?On Feb. 3rd, two days before he lost by the statistically significant nine points?
Laugh if you want, but if that scenario comes true…I hate to bring it up, but you better be at home, fully prepared. As will I.
By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
November 3, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
“‘Dick Cheney came out, and he hit the campaign trail, and he said, and I quote, that he is “delighted” to support John McCain,’ Mr. Obama said. ‘You’ve never seen Dick Cheney delighted before, but he is. That’s kind of hard to picture. So, I would like to congratulate Senator McCain on this endorsement, because he really earned it.
“‘Here’s my question to you, Ohio,’ he said. ‘Do you think Dick Cheney is delighted to support John McCain because he thinks John McCain is going to bring change, because he thinks that somehow John McCain is really going to shake things up, get rid of the lobbyists, and Haliburton, and the old boys club in Washington? Ohio, we know better.’”
By making
November 3, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
FOX News has called the race for Obama…demos NO NEED TO VOTE TOMORROW…go out and celebrate!!!
By hold onto your wallet
November 3, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
I find it amazing and sad that people will blame Bush and the Republicans for everything that is going wrong in this country today.
The Republicans and Democrats both been responsible for allowing things to escalate to the point they have in this country. Both parties have pandered to special interest, worried more about what other countries think of us than what our own people think, can’t pass legislation without pork add ons, tax and spend to the point of destroying the middle class.
The middle class is the funding engine of this country’s government and its programs. It is certainly not the Hollywood elite , multi-millionaires, the bankers or the Wall Street crooks, nor is it the low income or those on the government hand out programs. Just who do you think is going to fund the bail outs, the infrastructure projects, the “programs, the spreading the wealth? The working class!
Everyone seems to forget Jimmy Carter was started the brilliant program to provide housing to those who couldn’t afford it. It was a noble idea, but it wasn’t well thought out and it didn’t take long for people to figure out how to “cheat and beat” the system.
While Reagan’s trickle down economics were certainly debatable, by the time Clinton got in office, we all had a pretty good ride. But Clinton added to Carter’s housing program and bent to pressure to put quotas on lending institutions to write more of these loans being backed by Fannie & Freddie.
W came into office during a crisis (.bomb, 911 and the Y2k mess) and hasn’t done anyone any favors by being so busy worrying about the rest of the world that he forgot to pay attention here at home. We have had the last two years of a Democrat controlled Congress and they failed to accomplish any of the things they promised in their first 100 days.
It is easy to call each other names and place blame, but in my opinion it is both parties that are responsible for this mess. It has taken decades of both parties and it’s about time they both accept that responsibility and admit they both share a role in letting the American people down, then get to the business of getting us out of the ditch.
This siutation is not the result of 8 years of Bush, this is the result of decades of Democrats & Republicans forgetting who pays their paychecks. Politicians being wined, dined, lobbied and bribed into meeting the special interest needs of the few at the expense of many.
If we’re going to ask the American workers to give more, then the government needs to give up more of its wasteful ways. There are hundreds of wasteful areas of the government that can be cut.
One of the first things cut should be the fat paychecks for past-presidents, their spouses and their entourages. Every politician should have the same retirement program the rest of us have…why do they not have to pay into SS?
America is still a great country and much better than many places in the world, but we are at a place in our history where we need to be focused on the homefront. Both political parties need to be focused on restoring the faith of the American people in their government to lead and protect…not dictate.
We, the people, need to set the example and the tone we expect by acting like civilized adults and stop with the hate and name calling. A house divided…
By Nancy the Hun
November 3, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s home district includes San Francisco. Star-Kist Tuna’s headquarters are in San Francisco, Pelosi’s home district. Star-Kist is owned by Del Monte Foods and is a major contributor to Pelosi. Star-Kist is the major employer in American Samoa employing 75% of theSamoan workforce. Paul Pelosi, Nancy ‘s husband, owns $17 million dollars of Star-Kist stock. In January, 2007 when the minimum wage was increased from $5.15 to$7.25, Pelosi had American Samoa exempted from the increase so DelMonte would not have to pay the higher wage. This would make Del Monteproducts less expensive than their competition’s. Last week when the huge bailout bill was passed, Pelosi added anearmark to the final bill adding $33 million dollars for an ‘economicdevelopment credit in American Samoa’. Wow - What is that smell? Pelosi has called the Bush Administration ‘corrupt’. How do you spell ‘hypocrisy?
By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
November 3, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
Tobias Wolf writes about get-togethers with friends: “When we meet for dinner we do our best to take up other subjects - books, gossip, movies, our children - but then, like the addicts we’ve become, we sneak back to the drug of outrage, shooting up the latest barefaced lie and squalid revelation, not forgetting to list yet again the national and global catastrophes brought about by the incompetence, hypocrisy, muddleheadedness, venality, truculence, mendacity, callousness, zealotry, machismo, lawlessness, cynicism, wishful thinking, and occasional downright evil of the administration of George W Bush. Our economy is in freefall, our public school system a disgrace, our military exhausted, the wounded and traumatised dying of neglect, yea, the very earth groaning for relief - and he’s optimistic! Yessiree! Looking forward to it! Leaning toward us over the podium with that exasperated little squint and that impatient, dentist-drill voice, utterly at a loss as to how he got saddled with a nation of such gloomy Guses and crybabies
“Eddying around our own indignation again and again, as if caught in some Bermuda Triangle of complaint, we are unable not to remind each other of the fatal character of George Bush’s incomprehension, the thousands upon thousands who have died by his blithe actions and inactions, and his inability to understand at any level - political, moral, emotional - the terrible damage he has done, this man whose idea of sharing in the grief of parents who’ve lost a son or daughter in Iraq is to give up playing golf! If he really did.
“There - I’ve stepped in the trap again. I can’t help it. And for many of us that has been a defining condition of life in George W Bush’s reign, this unanswerable need to register anew and aloud our shock and dismay, indeed our disbelief, at finding him at the wheel as we wake each morning.”
By Copyleft
November 3, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
Fox has called it for Obama
If it’s all the same to you, I’d rather wait until an actual news organization made the call.
By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
November 3, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
Aleksandar Hemon writes: “I am no historian but it is my guess that the Bush regime would be in the running for the worst elected government in the history of Western civilisation. The score sheet is catastrophic: American foreign policy and international prestige are in tatters; the deficit and the national debt are reaching Zimbabwean proportions; states are impoverished and national infrastructure is falling apart; the practices of democracy have been so devalued that a militant bimbo is a viable vice-presidential candidate, while race-baiting is acceptable campaign practice. What to say of the destruction of New Orleans and the collapse of financial markets, neither of which the Bush court seemed particularly interested in until it was too late? Nothing Bush and his administration handled has remained undamaged, no stone misturned, all children left behind to forage through the debris in the aftermath of the past eight years.”
Rick Moody writes: “The Ownership Society! That was the name for this second term of Bush’s America, and it’s logical to assume Bush didn’t come up with the coinage himself, because how could he have? He has trouble getting through a simple sentence. Probably some staffer, gifted with ad speak, came up with it, coining what was already de facto policy, the notion that the government needs to remove itself entirely from the business of regulation and owning industries, leaving the oversight of corporate capital - as well as derivatives, packaged mortgages, and so on - to an ill-equipped marketplace.
“What the Ownership Society came to feel like to the overwhelming majority of Americans was feudalism. The modern return of the robber barons. No backstop in the case of catastrophic illness. No backstop in case of corporate malfeasance. No backstop in the case of a despoiled natural environment. No backstop in the case of cascading corporate bankruptcies. The wealthy and the large corporations, now largely unregulated, were free to do as they wished in most if not all areas, in order to increase the bounteous riches of their executives.”
Edmund White writes: “Perhaps the most depressing moment in the last eight years was Bush’s re-election. As a teacher, I’ve long lamented the dumbing down of America; now I was tempted to see our educational failure as a plot to keep the electorate stupid and gullible. In America, a tiny elite receives a rigorous education and the rest of the population is kept in darkest ignorance, just as a small percentage of our youngsters constitute Olympic champion athletes and the rest of the population is grotesquely obese: a strange idea of democracy. I was prepared to believe that Dubya’s first election had been a mistake or a cheat, but the idea that the voters could re-elect him was too grim to contemplate.”
Joseph L. Galloway writes in his McClatchy Newspapers opinion column: “They played on our fears like a mighty Wurlitzer Organ, frightening us with lies into an unnecessary war in Iraq. Frightening us into re-electing George Bush, even after we knew that he was anything but presidential, anything but intelligent, anything but a worthy, effective leader “They frightened us so badly that we voluntarily surrendered the precious rights that a million American soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines, Coast Guardsmen and others bought for us with their lives during two centuries of freedom and democracy.
“They used fear to violate international law, to torture and imprison thousands of suspected enemies without charges or trials. They used fear and invoked national security to suspend the right of habeas corpus, the foundation of our freedoms.
“For these and far too many other sins and transgressions to list in so short a space as this, we the people have every right, and perhaps a duty, to cast them aside, and with them their only hope of avoiding justice and judgment — John McCain, who voted with them 90 percent of the time.”
By Matt
November 3, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. “But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them –- bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping”
Obama=false prophet and his cabinet will be shameless teachers bringing truth into disrepute.
By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
November 3, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
San Francisco Chronicle columnists Phillip Matier and Andrew Ross remind us of that city’s all-important referendum tomorrow: “Proposition R, the proposed renaming of a sewage-treatment plant after George W. Bush… .
“‘The potential irony here is that this is a modern facility that protects the ocean and the environment every day,’ [Public Utilities Commission spokesman Tony] Winnicker said, ‘and I’m not sure that’s the right legacy for President Bush.’
“No, but there would be no mistaking the smell.”
By Dusty
November 3, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
struggling atlas
Oh I did a little more than put out a sign for McCain. But I never put anything on my car for anybody, not even my alma mater.
As you said, you won’t be comfortable with Obama for three years. Well, don’t hold your breath. You will probably find out, about the middle of January, the double whammy you have placed on this country of ours.
You know Obama has little experience in anything, cannot even practice law anymore. But he is going to be directing your military, your tax rates, your Supreme court selection, HIS HOME MILITARY UNITS, your healthcare, economics and energy,Homeland Defense. education and anything he can get in his power. Meanwhile, Michelle will still be looking for the second thing she likes about America. So far, she’s only found one it seems.
So, stay cheery. Republicans will be just as nice to Obama as Democrats were to George W. Bush and GOP will support everything he does just like you Dems did.
Now, chin up and keep whistling. You are going to need it. Republicans knew what to expect while you libs were woozy with worship. Yes, sleeping beauty, get a kiss from the prince and wake up….A SOCIALIST!!! eeeeeeeii
By making
November 3, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
Boy the news media sure are getting goood to call a race a day before the election…they must of gotten “new” high tech crystal balls now days!
Demos, the news media called it for Obama to win…NO NEED TO VOTE TOMORROW, go directly to the government assistance lines to get a head start of the crowds!
By Carla Turner
November 3, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
Redneck Convert you are too funny….I bet most people don’t even get you and actually believe you are a real redneck….lol
By hold onto your wallet
November 3, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
Nancy the hun - my point exactly. You don’t have to look very fair in either party to find the corruption and special interest pandering.
This is what the American people have to start screaming and screaming loudly about. Pelosi and those like her don’t care, she’s got more money than she’ll spend in two lifetimes…most of these politicians do. That’s why you see very few plain “John or Jane Doe” candidates. they can’t compete.
Again, it’s both parties, take a hard look at both sides and start now demanding a change in how legislation gets passed…no more pork add ons! Limit campaign contributions by business, whether it’s fish or oil satisfying the few at the expense of many has to stop NOW.
Just think of how many wonderful things we could do for our very own people here at home if the fact-cat politicians actually focused on all Americans instead of the self-serving few that represent their campaign contributers.
By tcoach
November 3, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
If Obama wins how long of a window are teh dems. and libs going to use and blame on Bush?
At what point are the failures not going back to Bush and when are the attack dogs of the dem. party going to say they were wrong.
Or would many of you even be willing to do that.
So if the economy fails=Obama’s fault Anything goes wrong in middle east=Obama’s fault
National health care turns out just as it has in every other country that has it=Obama’s fault
Those recieving free checks(tax cuts) do not use teh money to improve their socioeconomic status, instaed on luxery products=Obama’s fault
Are these correct? Or is it going to be as it has been through the election campaign and nothing in Obama’s past present or future are his fault.
Who are you guys gonna blame and attack to if Obama wins?
By Shrugging Atlas
November 3, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
You’re so pitiful Dusty.
By Matt
November 3, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
McCain and Palin both have a history of fighting corruption and pork. Voting against their own party.
Obama has a history of voting with his party 100% of the time. Holding hands and making deals with the corrupt.
I would love to see someone get voted in and openly bash the ones in congress who are corrupt. It doesn’t matter what side you are on. a crook is aq crook. Also, once you are found out and fired, you should not be allowed to keep getting your pension from the tax payers, final, your gone, go get a real job and pay taxes again like the rest of us.
By Rosie
November 3, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Thinking Right,
I am here to say that you are Thinking Wrong if you think that Sen. Obama will allow the GOP to CHEAT him out of This Election. He has outsmarted Sen. McCain the whole election, and he will outsmart the GOP if they CHEAT AGAIN.
If I was you, I would not want to be a part of a CROOKED PARTY. But I guess what they say is true, “GET IN, WHERE YOU FIT IN”.
By Shrugging Atlas
November 3, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this
Don’t worry tcoach we’ll still be blaming W and the repugnants for a long time. You and your party have dug us into a hole that will not easily be filled. If you want to place blame look in the mirror. You, Jim, Dusty, Ragnar, and anyone else who voted for Bush not once, but twice, are to blame.
By getalife
November 3, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this
Lets recap this general election.
Obama starts off comparing McCain to bush and states McCain will continue the failed gop policies.
McCain vows to run a clean campaign but throws the kitchen sink and lost all honor he ever had.
Of course, Obama ran a better campaign and deserves to win but half of America will vote gop and reward failure with no accountability.
By GayGrayGeek
November 3, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
tcoach - You and your REPUBLICAN’T pals have been blaming all of the Ills Of The World on Jimmy Carter for the past 30-plus years.
Thus, using the standard that YOU REPUBLICAN’TS have set, we should have Duh-Bya as the blame for all the current ills until around, oh, 2040 or so…
By dusty trails
November 3, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
Dusty finally shows her true colors. She is not a patriot, but a partisan shill. Her endless comments about supporting the President just because he is the President and deserves the support of all Americans. She will try to turn it back on Democrats, but poor Dusty is just a GOP hack. Thanks for being honest for the first time, Dustball.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
November 3, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this
Oh I did a little more than put out a sign for McCain. But I never put anything on my car for anybody, not even my alma mater.
Does the Middle School send stickers for you to put on your car?
By making
November 3, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
W said anything and everything to get in office, OMG…Obama is the black version of W…RUN for the streets and rebell!!!
By Say What?
November 3, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
You hear about the Bradley effect and how people are afraid to say they’d vote against Obama because it may be an indication of their “racism”.
Well, I’m here to tell you that there is a REVERSE Bradley effect in motion. I live in suburban Atlanta, where there ARE no Obama/Biden signs on display. My wife and I both voted for Obama, so did a couple of our friends, but we have told the world that our vote was cast for McCain.
See, the Republicans I know would pull their business from me if they thought I was a liberal.
I sincerely doubt I’m alone in experiencing this phenomena.
By where's honest abe?
November 3, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
Honest politicians - HAHAHAHA…now that’s an oxymoron….
By tcoach
November 3, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
Shrugging there you go with your prjudistic ways of the liberals. Only voted for Bush the first time. But nice job.
So you are saying as I suspected that Obama will have no accountability from you. When will he be allowed to be judged? Maybe after his 2nd term. Who knows with a complete lack of checks and balances he could get a third term.
I was not asking you to place blame anywhere. Just wanted to know what the expected time was that I could count on seeing these promises put into action.
That is right he has never given a timeline. So I am wondering when I should expect my check in the mail. Also when is it that I should cancel my employee insurance, because I do not want to pay if others are not going to pay.
That is the kind of timeline that I was hoping one of the followers could give me.
Are you seriously saying that in your opinion Obama gets a pass on his presidency because of the one before his. Just think about how ignorant that may sound to someone who is not a cult member.
By steve-o
November 3, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
After Obama wins tomorrow I hope Republicans take with them one very important lesson from this campaign: calling those who disagree with you Godless, the anti-christ, unAmerican, unpatriotic and evil is not the way to win friends and influence people. When all you can do is spew hatred for the other side then it shows you have nothing really good to say about yourself. Good luck to you Republicans because you are about to be shown how this country really feels about you and you ain’t gonna like it. You betcha!
By Curious Observer
November 3, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
We have had the last two years of a Democrat controlled Congress and they failed to accomplish any of the things they promised in their first 100 days.
Another Republican half-truth. Saxby and his merry band of Republicans have filibustered and killed just about every piece of legislation the Democrats in Congress have put forth. And we’re supposed to blame the Democratic majority for that?
By tcoach
November 3, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Gay grey I was not alive during Jimmy carter’s Presidency.
Also never have said anything negative about Jimmy Carter.
So you sir are a liar and have no honor, nor do you give any a reason for anyone to acknowledge what you post.
Especially you have shown yourself to be a prejudice LIAR.
Don’t make accusations that you can’t prove.
Guess that went against your narrow liberal mind that there are actually young conservative minded people huh.
By making
November 3, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
Say What…We finally taught ONE of you demos a trick…LUCKY for us the rest of the demos don’t have a clue on how to think a republican strategy like you…there might even be hope for you to pull you completely to the winning side. Better luck in the election!
By Aquagirl
November 3, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this
Speaking of yard signs, in true bipartisan spirit here’s advice on how to deal with those thuggish un-American free-speech suppressors who steal them.
By Say What?
November 3, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
making
No one had to teach me any tricks. It’s called survival, and to me, politics, religion and sex are all topics to be kept to yourself anyway.
Now, if Obama wins in a landslide, what we will have, PEOPLE, is a Democratic mandate. Let me say it again: a Democratic mandate. Move aside and let freedom ring, right wingers.
By tcoach
November 3, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Gay grey, You are a liar. I was not even alive during Jimmy Carter era. Was born in 1981.
So do not accuse me of things that obviously could not and have not happened. I have never said anything about Jimmy Carter, good or bad. I think he is irrelevant.
You once again show you are guilty of what you attack others for.
You are a prejudice punk who attacks and divides those that happen to not share your views. I hear you blast the religious right all the time. You do the same thing and then rationalize it by saying you are right so it is OK. You are just as dumb and impotent as a thinker as they are.
You hate me, yet know nothing of what I believe or have done in my life to instill those beliefs. You group me in with others because you are incompetent at reason and debate. If you do not have a point then it is usually not best to attack those who do, just because you disagree.
I am unhappy as many are about the way things have went in our country for a while now. However to place blame on one side or on any one individual shows exactly how inept you are as a complex thinker.
There used to be anger by some at people like you. While people like me only feel sorry for angry little people such as yourself.
Now go make some more false statements about me.
By making
November 3, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
Steve O…I’m in a win/win situation. I want McCain. IF Obama wins my business will thrive…I paid cash for it, so I can under price my competitors and run them out of business and then to balance my unfair tax increases I will cut my payroll expenses. WIN/WIN…the American Dream…Obama the American NIGHTMARE!
By 1911A1
November 3, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
hold onto your wallet @ 1:56…
Post of the YEAR!
By making
November 3, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Say What…I spoke to soon…you are stupid…if politics is one…get off the blog…stupid demos…god help America
By deegee
November 3, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
My uncle was in town this past weekend. When he got here he had a mouthful of Republican talking points. He sensed that I wasn’t exactly on board with him although I never came out and said that I voted for Obama. By the time he left he admitted that Palin was a joke and that if McChange had only picked Romney for VP then he might not be losing to Obama. He also mentioned having some questions about McChange’s mental stability and his anger management issues. At least he’s smarter than Dusty.
By making
November 3, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
People said the same thing a Reagan metal health and he’s being remember as one, if NOT the best President ever. I’ll gamble with McCain.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
November 3, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
Guess that went against your narrow liberal mind that there are actually young conservative minded people huh.
You are speaking of the Republinazi Youth. Put on your little jack boots and brown shirt and go wave your American rag out in the traffic. Get ready for the butt kicking you are about to receive!
By hold onto your wallet
November 3, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
WORDS FROM AND TO THE WISE During this political season let’s be reminded of these wise words. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people’ s initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves. …..Abraham Lincoln
By Cornbread Fred
November 3, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
Dusty, today’s poem got you kicked out of the Jim Wooten/Cornbread Fred stand-up comedy troupe, sorry! Your poetry is not nearly as funny as your logic. By “steady, experienced, patriotic” you mean “republican” - for shame! If being a member of a party (of YOUR choice, of course) were all it took to be patriotic then I wouldn’t have had to spend three years on Luzon, I could have just voted republican and put signs in my yard. My next observation: all you cutters-and-pasters need to go play with scissors and paper. Where are YOUR OWN thoughts? C’mon. Jim, I know a couple of real good places we can go get drunk together!
By Eli Jones
November 3, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
Comrade Obama’s Marxist allies (Democrats) are now planning Obama’s second Marxist act, that concerning everyone’s retirement 401k. Comrade Obama and allies are now saying that you will have your 401k transferred into government-created accounts” for everyone with a 401k. The government will pay a 3 percent return on your 401k money. YEP THREE PERCENT!! This is what you can expect out of Barack Obama. Oh yes, Obama’s first Marxist act has already been put into motion. It is the Obama sponsored US Senate Bill S2433 and it is an act of a empty headed dreamer. Obama’s S2433 will cost us tax paying Americans 845 Billion in ADDITIONAL taxes. The money from Obama’s S2433 will be given to the corrupt United Nations, specifically for “The UN Global Poverty Act”. Your hard earned money will then be REDISTRIBUTED to third world dictators. Google: Obama’s S2433
By Eli Jones
November 3, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this
Our Iranian enemy has endorsed Barack Obama. mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s endorsement of Barack Obama is one endorsement that the Obamaphiles aren’t bragging about. Ahmadinejad has vowed again and again to wipe Israel off the world map. Ahmadinejad has even stated that America will be defeated by his thug nation. If you wonder why mahmoud Ahmadinejad hates America but loves Barack Obama, here’s why.
Obama’s 11-2-07 pro- Iranian resolution says, President Bush does not have authority to use any military force to stop Iran from getting nukes. Obama sponsored the pro-Iranian resolution to counter the US Senate amendment sponsored by Senators Joe Lieberman and Jon Kyl. The US Senate voted 76-22 on Sept. 26, 2007 in favor of supporting President Bush on this issue. John McCain voted for the Lieberman / Kyl resolution that supported President Bush. Obama was also against putting Iran’s Revolutionary Guard on the list of terrorist orgs.
Obama has also been endorsed by Hugo Chavez, Louis Farrakhan,William Ayres, Bernadine Dorhn, Ahmad Yousuf (Hamas, Jeremiah Wright, Black Panthers, Rashid Khalidi, Nadhmi Auchi, momar quadafi and many more America and Israel haters.
By The Snark
November 3, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
What? No invocation of Harry S Truman?
By Does any trust the UN?
November 3, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
Obama’s bill S2433 would require the U.S. to initially direct .7 percent of our GNP into the United Nations coffers for distribution as they see fit, for “food” to third world nations. Under earlier agreements this would evolve into a national tax on the U.S. with the UN attempting to levy this on all first world nations.
It is time the United States makes it a priority of our foreign policy to meet this goal and help those who are struggling day to day,” a statement issued by supporters, including Obama, said.
Specifically, it would “declare” that the official U.S. policy is to eliminate global poverty, that the president is “required” to “develop and implement” a strategy to reach that goal and requires that the U.S. efforts be “specific and measurable.”
The U.N. would have the power to increase this rate of taxation. The U.S. would be required to surrender some of its sovereignty over foreign aid by putting it under UN control. The bill would force the U.S. to sign onto the U.N.’s Millennium Declaration, which would commit us not only to “banning small arms and light weapons” but also to adhere to the International Criminal Court Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol.
Obama’s bill S2433 would require the U.S. to initially direct .7 percent of our GNP into the United Nations coffers for distribution as they see fit, for “food” to third world nations. Under earlier agreements this would evolve into a national tax on the U.S. with the UN attempting to levy this on all first world nations.
The U.N. would have the power to increase this rate of taxation. The U.S. would be required to surrender some of its sovereignty over foreign aid by putting it under UN control. The bill would force the U.S. to sign onto the U.N.’s Millennium Declaration, which would commit us not only to “banning small arms and light weapons” but also to adhere to the International Criminal Court Treaty and the Kyoto Protocol.
Does anyone TRUST the UN?
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
November 3, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Eli is lying for the Reich. The day of the Republinazi is over!
By Cornbread Fred
November 3, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this
Hello, Eli! Thank you for your “comrade Marxist empty-headed-dreamer third-world-dictators” name-calling bit, you might make it into our comedy club. Would you rather have our hard-earned money redistributed to Wall Street bail-out-recipient junket-goers? Hey, tcoach, your “However to place blame on one side or on any one individual…” - THANK YOU! A bit of reason rears its head! Hey Rosie, I’d be careful about assigning the word “crooked” to only one of these two parties.
By hold onto your wallet
November 3, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this
Big fear with this bill is putting any of US soveriegnty or taxpayer money in the hands the UN. The UN has served virtually no real purpose in a long time and is fraught with corruption, look at the last head of the UN.
While the concept or idea might be noble, allowing the UN to levy a tax on our GNP and giving them any rights to impose increases or further control is a very bad idea! It is hard enough to figure out where your United Way, Red Cross, Katrina, etc., etc. $ actually go.
What we don’t need is yet another corrupt world “governing” body that we have NO control over having access to our money or our rights. Americans are already a very generous people, we don’t need an outside entity dictating the terms of our charity.
Where does it end?
By Curious Observer
November 3, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
In this case, the news that “the Democrats want to take away your 401(k) savings” turns out to be little more than last-minute election fearmongering.
The Democrats’ supposed assault on the 401(k) program began percolating last week on a few blog posts and e-mails but jumped into “wider distribution” (OK: “the MSM” if you prefer) when it began showing up on the stump. In a Friday interview with CNBC’s Larry Kudlow, Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain said of the Democratic-controlled Congress:
“They want to take the 401(k)s and use that money to give that to the government to spend, rather than people,” he said. “And I think that’s very dangerous disincentive to savings, which is exactly the cause of one of our problems, as we all know.”
Here’s where we all take a deep breath. There is no proposal in Congress to take away your 401(k) savings account. In any case, the stock market has already done a pretty good job of wiping out several trillion dollars worth of 401(k) savings without any help from Congress. John W. Schoen
Another urban myth, part of Republican fear-mongering, exploded.
By Gator Joe
November 3, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
Wooten: I have some suggestions on how you and your fellow, narrow-minded, McCain supporters can spend Wednesday if Obama wins. Go to Walmart, buy each of yourselves a six pack of Coors (only non-union beer will do) and take down the Confederate flags from the back windows of your pick-ups. After drinking the six-packs go out to the barn, wrap yourselves in the flags, crawl up in the fetal position, and continue your whining away from the rest of us.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
November 3, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
Where does it end?
Ends tomorrow with the complete defeat of the Republinazi party!
By making
November 3, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
The media has already called the election that Obama won, so NO need to go vote…start your celebration!
By More on the 401k issue
November 3, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
House Democrats recently invited Teresa Ghilarducci, a professor at the New School of Social Research, to testify before a subcommittee on her idea to eliminate the preferential tax treatment of the popular retirement plans. In place of 401(k) plans, she would have workers transfer their dough into government-created “guaranteed retirement accounts” for every worker. The government would deposit $600 (inflation indexed) every year into the GRAs. Each worker would also have to save 5 percent of pay into the accounts, to which the government would pay a measly 3 percent return.
Rep. Jim McDermott, a Democrat from Washington and chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, said that since “the savings rate isn’t going up for the investment of $80 billion [in 401(k) tax breaks], we have to start to think about whether or not we want to continue to invest that $80 billion for a policy that’s not generating what we now say it should.”
A few respectful observations:
1) McDermott is right when he says the savings rate isn’t going up. But the savings rate doesn’t include gains to money you invest in the stock market. It ignores the buildup of net worth. (If you bought a share of XYZ Corp. in January at $100, for instance, and its value doubled by December, the savings rate measure would still value that investment at $100. In short, the savings rate is a phony number.)
2) So based partly on the above faulty logic, the $4.5 trillion, as of the start of the year, invested in 401(k) plans doesn’t count as savings.
3) Ghilarducci would have workers abandon the stock market right at the bottom of the market. A stupid idea, according to Warren Buffett: “I don’t like to opine on the stock market, and again I emphasize that I have no idea what the market will do in the short term. Nevertheless, I’ll follow the lead of a restaurant that opened in an empty bank building and then advertised: ‘Put your mouth where your money was.’ Today my money and my mouth both say equities.”
4) Ghilarducci would offer a lousy 3 percent return. The long-run return of the stock market, adjusted for inflation, is more like 7 percent. Look at it this way: Ten thousand dollars growing at 3 percent a year for 40 years leaves you with roughly $22,000. But $10,000 growing at 7 percent a year for 40 years leaves you with $150,000. That is a high price to pay for what Ghilarducci describes as the removal of “a source of financial anxiety and…fruitless discussions with brokers and financial sales agents, who are also desperate for more fees and are often wrong about markets.”
5) What effect would this plan have on an already battered stock market? Well, I would imagine it would send it even lower, sticking a shiv into the portfolios of everyone who didn’t jump aboard. But the Chinese would love to jump in and buy all our cheap stocks to fund the retirement of their citizens.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
November 3, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
The Republinazis are trying to set fire to the Reichstag, again!
By Sallied Parry
November 3, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
CNN is reporting a sara palin wardrobe malfunction at a Pennsylvania Rally. Her hunting cap slipped off and exposed a dumb, dumb shell of a hollow pointed head.
bwa
You know, it’s the twilight of the conservative route, and the dawn of the new era, where freedom and justice will reign supreme in America Again… I was sitting here thinking ‘bout what a cause without a rebel conservativism became. McCain’s maverick didn’t work because people dont know what a maverick is, just like they didn’t recognize the GOP anymore.
Conservatism 08: A Cause without a Rebel.
Oh what could have been, my friends.
What could have been.
Obama 08: America Again
By Chad Harris
November 3, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
The only fraud with regaurd to elections is that Jim Wooten spews his delusions based with no substantive basis and Cox Newspapers sends him his welfare check.
In quintissential fashion, Wooten has thrown out BS with nothing to back it up.
The number of people who believe fraud has been committed is not surprising. They are ignorant lying Republicans. In characteristic fashion, Wooten thinks because his country club drinking homies lie about fraud it exists. In surveys by Harvard and Barnard, there have been about 24 documented cases of voter fraud in millions of votes over the last 20 years.
The cross checks Wooten refers to have been shot down in every single state including Georgia by a 3 judge panel (Wooten doesn’t comprehend this), where they were attempted, because the lists will disqualify you if you put down Jim Wooten on one, James Wooten on another form, and Jim C. Wooten on a third. The programs are profoundly stupid just as it is to send broken down Diebold-Premier touch screens to the most indigent neighborhoods.
Acorns few cases of contract workers who made up names did not translate into one single fraudulent vote and Acorn fired the contract workers and purged them from the list. Mickey Mouse and Darth Vader may live next door to Wooten in Dunwoody, but they were easily sorted and rejected in fact.
The reason the Dems are on their way to a 60 vote Senate are because this country has had it with a Bush McCain administration that has helped murder thousands of people and put the economy in a toilet. They have arrogantly gutted the Constitution. We have a lot of work to do cleaning up all the fiascos that the Bush administration and Republican Congress of 6 years left us.
Wooten can’t deliniate any detail on social programs or taxes because Wooten has a rock bottom education, pathetic writing skills and he is one of the laziest individuals in Georgia.
Instead of Judges that have less knowledge of the law than a first year law student like Janice Rodgers Brown, we will have legal scholars on the court with real litigation experience and trial law experience in the mode of Stevens—something no Republicans on the S. Ct. have at this time,
The only state McCain is winning is the state of confusion. He lied about releasing tax records and medical records as did Palin.
Palin is a 44-year-old woman who insists that she’s had no health problems. How hard can it be to gather her medical records? And what is the reason for their refusal? A 44 year old woman with “no health problems” has a damn thin medical chart.
One of the dumbest women on the planet would be a heartbeat away from a man with four bouts of metastatic melanoma. It’s not going to happen. Wooten can spend the rest of his life surrounding himself with dumb women and that will simulate Palin for him.
The Wright commercials by the 527s are going nowhere.
Chambliss continues to lie and say he’s getting no money from the Republican Senatorial committee which is pure b******.
Chamblis made the NY Times this morning with his racial bigotry spewed over the weekend saying the “other ones have voted” and “now it’s our turn.”
Wooten and the White bigots aren’t happy—and they’ve f*ked up the country and now we have to fix it.
By Kneel and Bob
November 3, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
Conservatism 08: A cause without a Rebel.
Liberalism 08: A rebellious rebirth of a long dormant dream.
Obama 08: Heart, Hearth, and Healthcare.
By Chad Harris
November 3, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
Obama’s favorable rating is 62% — the highest that any presidential candidate has registered in Gallup’s final pre-election polls going back to 1992.
This morning, Nate Silver of www.fivethirtyeight.com showed that national polls that include cell phones in their sample show a a 4.4 higher lead for Obama, on average (9.4 versus 5), than those polls that don’t include cell phones (this is an even greater margin than the 2.8 point margin Nate has calculated before, so it probably also reflects a likely voter model that incorporates early voting). If Nate is right, then Obama is going to have one hell of a blow-out tomorrow. Even the lower 2.8 point difference would put Georgia and Indiana over the top (Obama is currently behind 2.2 in Georgia and 0.9 in Indiana in the Pollster averages), and the higher numbers might put Arizona (Obama’s behind by 5.2) over the top—though of course the numbers may be lower if many of these polls are also including cell phones in their samples.
Looks like the clock has run out for Wisconsin’s Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen, who won’t file an appeal to his lawsuit tossed out by a judge late last month.
Van Hollen, a Republican and co-chair of the McCain campaign in Wisconsin, filed the lawsuit in an attempt to force the state’s non-partisan General Accountability Board to re-confirm thousands of voter registrations.
A hearing is scheduled for this afternoon in the suit filed last week by MALDEF against New Mexico GOP lawyer Pat Rogers. The suit, triggered by reporting from TPMmuckraker and others, alleges that Rogers hired a private investigator, Al Romero, to intimidate Hispanics in Albuquerque about their right to vote. Romero is also named as a defendant.
The hearing occured at 3pm EST today, before U.S. District Court Judge Martha Vázquez in Albuquerque.
Supporters of former Rep. Randy “Duke” Cunningham (R-CA) are pushing for a presidential pardon for Cunningham’s tax evasion and conspiracy convictions. Cunningham, who is serving an eight year and four month sentence, has asked for his sentence to be commuted and the Department of Justice has received eight letters from supporters urging for a pardon. (UPI)
No surprise there. You could fill a large bus with Republicans either in federal prison or on their way.
By Matt
November 3, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
Can the word ignorant even be assigned to a voter that would cast a vote for a candidate in which they know nothing about and even with intensive searching, cannot find out anything about. A candidate who has veiled his past in complete mysticism in order to create a hollywood produced individual who, when caught off script shows his true colors, will say anything that smells like roses but when the facts and outcomes are checked is just manure.
A cow pattie thats shaped like a steak, looks deliscious, smells wonderful, and then, you get that first bite after you have chosen it, and only then you realize what you actually chose on the menu. The taste alone will not be easily washed down like a rubbery peice of squid sushi. It will linger for years to come. It will permeate through to the mental capacity that will leave an impressionable mark to question what looks like a steak for ever more.
If you are uninformed and vote for Obama, you have no hope to help yourself and obviously hate all those around you who cast an informed vote to a candidate that is willing to give up their past mistakes or adhere to their past accomplishments and has a prooven record.
Go ahead and vote for a person that knowone really knows and keeps modifying their speeches to apease the dumb masses and watch the downfall of a great nation to a nation of U.N. controlled ecconomics and thug controlled businesses.
By Chad Harris
November 3, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this
Matt—
You’re using the wrong sex in your diatribe. You mean Moron Palin. Try the Chick Fil-A test. Any 15 year old working in a Chick-Fil A can answser any foreign policy question with far greater substance than moron Palin who dances around with absurd gingos like “Joe the Plumber” and “Ashley the Pole Dancer”.
The country saw her two interviews before she ducked out of interview site with Couric and Gibson and her negatives are killing the Rethugs.
By Matt
November 3, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
To Chad 5:34’
Did you know that Palin has a higher security clearance than either obama or biden?
Did you know that she is breifed regularly on national security.
BTW, apparently, you have no argument to my blog and as a liberal you through out whatever is the first thing that comes to mind.
By Chad Harris
November 3, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
If you’re Republican and feeling the hurt that’s being put on you election wise that will strengthen and repair this country domestically, in the foreign relation sphere, and make defense competent and get us out of this economic fiasco where Chambliss threw away billions of dollars with not one condition attached, note how little input you have. Would you marry or date a woman as moronic as Palin? If so you are beyond help. Kiss your party’s butt goodbye tonight—they’ll be dead in the water tomorrow.
By Matt
November 3, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this
Percentage wise, dems voted twice as much and then some for the bailout.
So, give up the Saxby deal.
By Chad Harris
November 3, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this
Yo—
Wooten the AJC Cox Newspapers welfare recipient. From Moron Palin a couple hours ago: **What do they think—Do they think the terrorists have become good guys all of a sudden?
They think that the moron is a tax evader who should be prosecuted and is a serial liar who knows less about US history, government, and foreign policy than the average high school sophomore and that same lack of knowledge has been exhibited consistently in Wooten’s columns.
Where was Wooten when they taught butressing your claims with facts in his UGA fresman English class? Or don’t they teach it?
By citizen
November 3, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this
Eli Jones @ 3:45 I have been reading the online news service, The Daily Star-Lebonon. In an article Sat. Nov.1st titled ‘No difference’ between Obama, McCain…Patrick McGreevy states ” the “troubling” aspect of Obama’s campaign is he is receiving from “centers of concentrated wealth and power” that have always believed that the US should dominate the Middle East. Most Americans are not even aware how our politics is being so closely watched around the world. They think of us as a ‘super power’ and that is such a huge reputation to live up to.
By Chad Harris
November 3, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this
Matt—
Are you local? How much of that stuff did you have to smoke. Do you ingest it or take it parenterally? Are you making a living by selling it? I know you don’t read a lot, (it’s anathma to Rethugs) but try backing up your ridiculous delusions with a cite.
LOL your rationale that as Governor of Alaska Palin has a higher security clearance than Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee qualifies you to have neurlogical evaluation. Wooten and his Buckhead Club homies will fund it. Go for it.
High security clearance for a woman who asserts she knows foreign policy because she can see Russia from Alaska is tantamount to having Britney Spears scrub to evacuate and repair an epidural hematoma.
Let me help you. Palin has one clearance—humiliated loser—a stupid gamble by an erratic senile individual who is as stable as a 12 dollar bill. I clear her to fly back to Alaska where she can deal with her tax evasion charges. That’s the only substantive tax dealings Palin has had.
The great news is come Wednesday, her moroness is off the TV.