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By Tom Davis

November 11, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

Obama dictatorship? We’ve had eight years of Bush-Cheney stepping all over the constitution, politicizing the Justice Dept, tapping phones, imprisoning people without due process, etc. and Paul Broun is worried about an Obama dictatorship??!

By Tomhere

November 11, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

No, you’re just another stupid republican nutjob. Now you’re trying to say that you “really didn’t say” what everyone heard you say. That’s why republican stock is sinking so low. Because you are all, sad to say, stupid. Not just in what you think, but in your diminished mental capacity to reason. I think it’s actually biological or physiological. You have a retarded or diminished brain. It may actually be genetic. For whatever reason, the results of your problem are obviously apparent. As proof of that fact, why is what Obama said an issue for you, when, in fact, george w bush, a member of your party, has “activated” a unit of the U.S. Army, on domestic soil, in obvious violation of the posse comitatus laws? No, mister broun, you need to be hounded out of office. Obama and Rahm Emanuel will put an end to you. WELCOME TO THE VOID.

By Ted

November 11, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this

This is so embarassing for Georgia to have a congressman who is this ignorant. I hope this is his last term in congress representing our state.

By Tom Watson

November 11, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

I always heard Broun was an idiot. I actually wrote a check to his Republican opponent. This just proves he really is an idiot.

By turner

November 11, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

Those Republicans who called Sarah Palin a “whack job” need to meet my Congressman, Dr. Broun. He is known as an eccentric, but he, like Gov. Palin, is not at all knowledgable about terms like socialism, Marxism, and Nazi (which he also said the new president leaned toward!)Will anyone in the new Congress take this man seriously? My district better write off their representation.

By chainshaw

November 11, 2008 6:36 PM | Link to this

Paul Broun was dead on. Obama has made many comments about draconian gun control and also made the comments about a Civilian National Security Force that is as strong and funded as the military. Federal Police, that sounds like brownshirts to me.

It is what it is. You can’t defend Obama’s positions unless you fall in line with his Socialist thinking.

By Paul Froun

November 11, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

Republicans scared of change is what I call it. Get over it already and he doesn’t regret his remarks. Just another nobody trying to make a name from himself by bringing down another individual.

By chainshaw

November 11, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

Paul Broun was dead on. Obama has made many comments about draconian gun control and also made the comments about a Civilian National Security Force that is as strong and funded as the military. Federal Police, that sounds like brownshirts to me.

It is what it is. You can’t defend Obama’s positions unless you fall in line with his Socialist thinking.

By elaine

November 11, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

Obama is a “centralist” NOT an extremely liberal Democrat. Republicans are concerned about losing GA US Senate seat to honorable, intelligent, centralist Democrat Jim Martin who has served Georgians for decades. Innuendo, smears, dirty politics are in play. Attack Obama thus Jim Martin will be tainted by association. Could the R-GA rep who now apologizes for untrue bizarre accusations have been elected President of the Harvard Law Review? No way that honor was affirmative action.

By bob lonergan

November 11, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

It sounds like brown shirts to me too. I say Paul Broun was was absolutely correct in his concern over bama’s marxists ideas. Bama is anti-gun no matter what he says. Check out his record in Illinois. He has always reminded me of Hitler.

By Doug N

November 11, 2008 6:55 PM | Link to this

This why most of America views us to be backward and uneducated. This morning I heard the announcer on AM 1400 wsb radio in north Georgia repeat Broun’s statement and say that Broun said that Obama was going to start a ge-pesto army. I assume the dummy meant Gestapo, but even that would refer to a right wing fascist group not socialist. Boy are they dumb

By Thank You Veterans!!

November 11, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

We’ve had eight years of Bush-Cheney stepping all over the constitution, politicizing the Justice Dept, tapping phones, imprisoning people without due process, etc.

Well at least Bush never said he would begin “to rule” as Obama’s people did.

Here’s what those [legal] wiretaps, terrorist detainments, etc. have gotten us: No successful terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 9/11. Leftists won’t acknowledge this and frankly don’t like it

Here’s the list of thwarted terrorist attacks since 9/11:

• December 2001, Richard Reid: British citizen attempted to ignite shoe bomb on flight from Paris to Miami. • May 2002, Jose Padilla: American citizen accused of seeking “dirty bomb,” convicted of conspiracy. • September 2002, Lackawanna Six: American citizens of Yemeni origin convicted of supporting Al Qaeda. Five of six were from Lackawanna, N.Y. • May 2003, Iyman Faris: American citizen charged with trying to topple the Brooklyn Bridge. • June 2003, Virginia Jihad Network: Eleven men from Alexandria, Va., trained for jihad against American soldiers, convicted of violating the Neutrality Act, conspiracy. • August 2004, Dhiren Barot: Indian-born leader of terror cell plotted bombings on financial centers (see additional images). • August 2004, James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj: Sought to plant bomb at New York’s Penn Station during the Republican National Convention. • August 2004, Yassin Aref and Mohammed Hossain: Plotted to assassinate a Pakistani diplomat on American soil. • June 2005, Father and son Umer Hayat and Hamid Hayat: Son convicted of attending terrorist training camp in Pakistan; father convicted of customs violation. • August 2005, Kevin James, Levar Haley Washington, Gregory Vernon Patterson and Hammad Riaz Samana: Los Angeles homegrown terrorists who plotted to attack National Guard, LAX, two synagogues and Israeli consulate. • December 2005, Michael Reynolds: Plotted to blow up refinery in Wyoming, convicted of providing material support to terrorists. • February 2006, Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi and Zand Wassim Mazloum: Accused of providing material support to terrorists, making bombs for use in Iraq. • April 2006, Syed Haris Ahmed and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee: Cased and videotaped the Capitol and World Bank for a terrorist organization. • June 2006, Narseal Batiste, Patrick Abraham, Stanley Grant Phanor, Naudimar Herrera, Burson Augustin, Lyglenson Lemorin, and Rotschild Augstine: Accused of plotting to blow up the Sears Tower. • July 2006, Assem Hammoud: Accused of plotting to hit New York City train tunnels. • August 2006, Liquid Explosives Plot: Thwarted plot to explode ten airliners over the United States. • May 2007, Fort Dix Plot: Six men accused of plotting to attack Fort Dix Army base in New Jersey.

Thank you President Bush, VP Cheney, and our wonderful military and their families—especially notable on this Veterans’ Day. We Appreciate You!!

By Boortz4Prez

November 11, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this

I am disappointed Broun backed off his comments. He was right on with his view of Obama. We need people to question Obama since the media failed to. I guess this is just another example of someone backing off comments due to pressure. It is just sad that you can’t question the Messiah.

By SAM

November 11, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this

Obama is not a Marxist, he’s a Democrat. It has its own socialist baggage. No need to sully the reputation of Marxists. Do a web search for Obama. Most of the first PAGES of stories related to him are in the foreign press. Note, however, the AP story regarding the skyrocketing sale of firearms. Here we go. Lock and load, America. You know the drill. Last time it was 600,000 dead. What will it be this time. Freedom is never free. But, it sure as hell isn’t subsidized by the government. Sector clear, move!

By Lady

November 11, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this

I am a reg. Dem. but am very afraid of an Obama administration. I am waiting for him to prove he will do what he says he would do - not juat another politician saying one thing and doing another, or worse. It’s like the old saying - What you are shouts at me so loudly I can not hear what you are saying.

As unpopular as it may be, I think McCain got a bumb rap by his own party and the media. Palin is a non-issue as in all probability McCain would certainly live for the next 4 years. He is not a Bush clone - that was just an easy and catchy one liner for the dems.

By Keith

November 11, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

I hope for our sake you democrats are right. Obama has had shakey associations to say the least…yet you all voted him in simply b/c the color of his skin. He was pushed in by the media and NOBODY questions his Marxist views views. He wrote on Marxism and hung with Bill Ayers. He is too extreme and the only ones who would like him are the lazy people who want “wealth redistribution” so they don’t have to get off their lazy butts to work… Oh, and don’t claim this is racist comments..I don’t care if he is pink..he is a right wing liberal who wants Government control..if that’s what you want move to Cuba. This is the land of the free. Lets keep it that way.

By wes

November 11, 2008 7:10 PM | Link to this

Lynn Westmoreland wants to promote more Christian literature in public places but can’t even name FIVE of the Ten Commandments in an interview on The Colbert Report.

Now we’ve got yet another representative Georgia can be equally ashamed of!

Here’s a poll:

Who is the most embarassing member of the Republican Party in Georgia?

A: Paul Broun B: Lynn Westmoreland C: Sonny Perdue

I’d have to go with Paul Broun. Obama makes jokes out of idiots who try and label him as a socialist.

The joke’s on you, Paul.

By tman

November 11, 2008 7:11 PM | Link to this

The most important post election question, is Levi now able to make up his mind wether to marry Palin’s daughter or not? He had to be happier than a sissy in boys town when MCcain lost.

By lakeman

November 11, 2008 7:20 PM | Link to this

i agree that broun is a complete idiot, even tho he is my representative….but he is right on when he calls obama what he is… a marxist…you fools will see when he has been in office for 6 months…god help this country when we are so called led by obama, reid and polosi…these kind of people will take the remaining assets we have left and throw them to the wind for votes…sad, sad…

By misterearl

November 11, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

The country moves forward.

Georgia and Mississippi move backward, rooted in fears from the past

NYT

Southern counties that voted more heavily Republican this year than in 2004 tended to be poorer, less educated and whiter, a statistical analysis by The New York Times shows.

“Race continues to play a major role in the state,” said Glenn Feldman, a historian at the University of Alabama, Birmingham. “Alabama, unfortunately, continues to remain shackled to the bonds of yesterday.”

David Bositis, senior political analyst at the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, pointed out that the 18 percent share of whites that voted for Senator John Kerry in 2004 was almost cut in half for Mr. Obama.

“There’s no other explanation than race,” he said.

Race was a strong subtext in post-election conversations across the socioeconomic spectrum here in Vernon, the small, struggling seat of Lamar County on the Mississippi border.

One white woman said she feared that blacks would now become more “aggressive,” while another volunteered that she was bothered by the idea of a black man “over me” in the White House.

Mr. McCain won 76 percent of the county’s vote, about five percentage points more than Mr. Bush did, because “a lot more people came out, hoping to keep Obama out,” Joey Franks, a construction worker, said in the parking lot of the Shop and Save.

Mr. Franks, who voted for Mr. McCain, said he believed that “over 50 percent voted against Obama for racial reasons,” adding that in his own case race mattered “a little bit. That’s in my mind.”

Many people made it clear that they were deeply apprehensive about Mr. Obama, though some said they were hoping for the best.

“I think any time you have someone elected president of the United States with a Muslim name, whether they are white or black, there are some very unsettling things,” George W. Newman, a director at a local bank and the former owner of a trucking business, said over lunch at Yellow Creek Fish and Steak.

Don Dollar, the administrative assistant at City Hall, said bitterly that anyone not upset with Mr. Obama’s victory should seek religious forgiveness.

“This is a community that’s supposed to be filled with a bunch of Christian folks,” he said. “If they’re not disappointed, they need to be at the altar.”

Customers of Bill Pennington, a barber whose downtown shop is decorated with hunting and fishing trophies, were “scared because they heard he had a Muslim background,” Mr. Pennington said over the country music on the radio. “Over and over again I heard that.”

Mr. Obama remains an unknown quantity in this corner of the South, and there are deep worries about the changes he will bring.

“I am concerned,” Gail McDaniel, who owns a cosmetics business, said in the parking lot of the Shop and Save. “The abortion thing bothers me. Same-sex marriage.”

“I think there are going to be outbreaks from blacks,” she added. “From where I’m from, this is going to give them the right to be more aggressive.”

The same White people who thrived on bias are scared of the payback. Fear is a terrible thing when it is your conscience that troubles you.

By Amber

November 11, 2008 7:21 PM | Link to this

Why would anyone not want Obama to limit automatic, high powered assault weapons on our streets? I don’t get it. He clearly does not want to take away traditional hunting firearms. He simply wants to add some control to guns on our streets, going to unregistered gun owners. What is the argument against this kind of control? Please, someone answer this question… In addition, his record clearly backs his current policy approach, so don’t even try to argue that his record shows he wants to take away all guns!

By Joe Roberts

November 11, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

this guy is another South GA legislative KOOK & an embarrassment to the rest of the state.

By CynthiaD

November 11, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

Nothing has convinced me more on the wisdom of my voting to help elect Obama than the level of “reasoned discourse”, exhibited here and elsewhere on the net by his opponents.

And to those of you in that group you might want to explore this question: Why did people with college degrees disproportionately vote Democratic last week.?

I expect to see the usual posts about “Kool-aid” drinkers and “elite college brats” in response to this post.

By Ross

November 11, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this

Good for Paul Broun. I’ve seen the speech as well, and it’s EXTREMELY scary.

I’m a Libertarian, not a Republican, so don’t call me a “Republican Nutjob”, but seriously, you people need to stop thinking Obama is your savior who is suddenly going to respect the constitution after all these years of our rights being trampled upon.

Obama WILL try to establish a dictatorship. Buy your guns now, that’s my only advice.

By Amber_Alert

November 11, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this

I can answer that question for you Amber. It’s called defense…defense for yourself and your family. When the thugs on the street are carrying high powered, high volume weapons, Grandpa’s squirrel rifle isn’t going to cut it.
The 2nd Amend. is about defense, not rabbit hunting.

By nellie

November 11, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this

Why make a fuss…..by definition Obama meets both Marxism & Facism standards…….

Broun told the truth and all hell breaks loose typical thug tactics repeated time and again during this long drawn out political fiasco .

Two paragraph quotes from Facism by Ph.D. Griffin are shown below …….. enough said::

D. Emphasis on Militarism Fascist movements also vary in their reliance on military-style organization. Some movements blend elite paramilitary organizations (military groups staffed by civilians) with a large political party led by a charismatic leader. In most cases, these movements try to rigidly organize the lives of an entire population. Fascism took on this military or paramilitary character partly because World War I produced heightened nationalism and militarism in many countries. Even in these movements, however, there were many purely intellectual fascists who never served in the military. Nazi Germany and Italy under Mussolini stand as the most notable examples of a paramilitary style of organization. Since the end of World War II, however, the general public revulsion against war and anything resembling Nazism created widespread hostility to paramilitary political organizations. As a result, fascist movements since the end of World War II have usually relied on new nonparamilitary forms of organization. There have been some fascist movements that have paramilitary elements, but these have been small compared to the fascist movements in Germany and Italy of the 1930s and 1940s. In addition, most of the paramilitary-style fascist movements formed since World War II have lacked a single leader who could serve as a symbol of the movement, or have even intentionally organized themselves into leaderless terrorist cells. Just as most fascist movements in the postwar period downplayed militarism, they have also abandoned some of the more ambitious political programs created in Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy. Specifically, recent movements have rejected the goals of corporatism (government-coordinated economics), the idea that the state symbolizes the people and embodies the national will, and attempts to include all social groups in a single totalitarian movement.

E. Use of Political Rituals Another feature of fascism that has largely disappeared from movements after World War II is the use of quasi-religious rituals, spectacular rallies, and the mass media to generate mass support. Both Nazism and Italian Fascism held rallies attended by hundreds of thousands, created a new calendar of holidays celebrating key events in the regime’s history, and conducted major sporting events or exhibitions. All of this was intended to convince people that they lived in a new era in which history itself had been transformed. In contrast to what fascists view as the absurdity and emptiness of life under liberal democracy, life under fascism was meant to be experienced as historical, life-giving, and beautiful. Since 1945, however, fascist movements have lacked the mass support to allow the staging of such theatrical forms of politics. The movements have not, however, abandoned the vision of creating an entirely new historical era.

By American

November 11, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this

There’s still a huge what if… all he’s saying is he’s afraid of the possibility of some very unfortunate changes that Obama could make. He has the support of the Democratic party who is in control of Congress and the Senate. Obama is the most liberal leftist president this nation has ever seen. He wants socialized medicine, etc, etc, etc. He’s pointing out that people (especially the media) are not paying close enough attention and asking the questions they should be. The media made Obama into a rock star and everyone voted for him. Yet, what are his accomplishments so far other than collecting millions of dollars to be elected? He speaks of change. Do we really want the change he’s planning on executing. People voted him in because they were mad at Bush.

By Nellie

November 11, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

Why make a fuss…..by definition Obama meets both Marxism & Facism standards…….

Broun told the truth and all hell breaks loose typical thug tactics repeated time and again during this long drawn out political fiasco .

Two paragraph quotes from Facism by Ph.D. Griffin are shown below …….. enough said::

D. Emphasis on Militarism Fascist movements also vary in their reliance on military-style organization. Some movements blend elite paramilitary organizations (military groups staffed by civilians) with a large political party led by a charismatic leader. In most cases, these movements try to rigidly organize the lives of an entire population. Fascism took on this military or paramilitary character partly because World War I produced heightened nationalism and militarism in many countries. Even in these movements, however, there were many purely intellectual fascists who never served in the military. Nazi Germany and Italy under Mussolini stand as the most notable examples of a paramilitary style of organization. Since the end of World War II, however, the general public revulsion against war and anything resembling Nazism created widespread hostility to paramilitary political organizations. As a result, fascist movements since the end of World War II have usually relied on new nonparamilitary forms of organization. There have been some fascist movements that have paramilitary elements, but these have been small compared to the fascist movements in Germany and Italy of the 1930s and 1940s. In addition, most of the paramilitary-style fascist movements formed since World War II have lacked a single leader who could serve as a symbol of the movement, or have even intentionally organized themselves into leaderless terrorist cells. Just as most fascist movements in the postwar period downplayed militarism, they have also abandoned some of the more ambitious political programs created in Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy. Specifically, recent movements have rejected the goals of corporatism (government-coordinated economics), the idea that the state symbolizes the people and embodies the national will, and attempts to include all social groups in a single totalitarian movement.

E. Use of Political Rituals Another feature of fascism that has largely disappeared from movements after World War II is the use of quasi-religious rituals, spectacular rallies, and the mass media to generate mass support. Both Nazism and Italian Fascism held rallies attended by hundreds of thousands, created a new calendar of holidays celebrating key events in the regime’s history, and conducted major sporting events or exhibitions. All of this was intended to convince people that they lived in a new era in which history itself had been transformed. In contrast to what fascists view as the absurdity and emptiness of life under liberal democracy, life under fascism was meant to be experienced as historical, life-giving, and beautiful. Since 1945, however, fascist movements have lacked the mass support to allow the staging of such theatrical forms of politics. The movements have not, however, abandoned the vision of creating an entirely new historical era.

By guyOutHere

November 11, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this

Sorry, the toothpaste is out of the tube. Unless every one of this pol’s constituents is a complete idiot, he should be voted out next time around. It’s hard to imagine how he could get a federally funded box of paper clips for his district after that remark.

By Chris Toombs

November 11, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this

I think that people who say alot of people didnt vote for obama just because hes black are some of the only racists out there..theyre the one looking at his skin..plain and simple Obama is scary, if he was a white republican and had the same policies and views i would still hate him He will wreck this country, penalizing people who are smart enough to be able graduate college and go on to create companies that make money and giving that money to the people who dropped out of highschool and live off of the government that doesnt create alot of motivation to do better..how are we going to compete in the world market if we all just go live off the government? I dont see how its greedy to let people keep the money they earned through hard work..i think its greedy for people to expect money for no work

By Amazed

November 11, 2008 8:38 PM | Link to this

Some of these comments are scary indeed. The anti-Obama folks just can’t be this, well, to put it bluntly, this plain ignorant… can they? Not in this day and age?… readily available books and loads of information on the Net? C’mon folks… Obama is a Constitutional Law Scholar. Are you trying to tell me he’ll do worse than Bush/Cheney who have been taking away our rights and trampling on the Constitution these last 8 years? Patriot act anyone? Right to due process? The same team that led us into an unprovoked war? You don’t still think Iraq was linked to Al Queda at the time of the war do you? You people can’t be for real? Please, read a book. Read wikipedia… read anything. Check out “Hot, Flat and Crowded” and see where your world is going. Wake up folks!

Here’s Obama’s speech where the “offending” part was taken out of context from:

“Today, AmeriCorps — our nation’s network of local, state, and national service programs — has 75,000 slots. And I know firsthand the quality of these programs. My wife, Michelle, once left her job at a law firm and at City Hall to be a founding director of an AmeriCorps program in Chicago that trains young people for careers in public service. And these programs invest Americans in their communities and their country. They tap America’s greatest resource — our citizens.

And that’s why as president, I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their efforts connected to a common purpose. People of all ages, stations, and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem — they are the answer.

So we are going to send — we’re going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We’ll call on Americans to join an Energy Corps to conduct renewable energy and environmental cleanup projects in their neighborhoods all across the country. We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, to be there for our military families. And we’re going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered, and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy.

We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

We need to use technology to connect people to service. We’ll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where Americans can browse opportunities to volunteer. You’ll be able to search by category, time commitment, and skill sets; you’ll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities. This will empower more Americans to craft their own service agenda, and make their own change from the bottom up.”

C’mon folks… read.

By Tom Paine

November 11, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this

George Bush is the one who set up the U.S. Concentration camps, gave FEMA the authority to order tens of thousands of plastic coffins, wrote the executive order giving the President the power to override the Constitution in case of a national “emergency”, and signed the legislation authorizing the military to become part of state police forces. Now Marxist Obama steps in, wanting to redistribute the wealth and create a civilian National Security Force, and the media (and most Americans) turn a blind eye. Should be an interesting four years.

By Sissy Saxby

November 11, 2008 9:27 PM | Link to this

Sissy Saxby doesn’t know what to make of this. Rep. Broun just declared himself an enemy of the man whom the American People chose as our President. Guess old Sissy Saxby will play along.

By Tom Paine

November 11, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this

George Bush is the one who set up the U.S. Concentration camps, gave FEMA the authority to order tens of thousands of plastic coffins, wrote the executive order giving the President the power to override the Constitution in case of a national “emergency”, and signed the legislation authorizing the military to become part of state police forces. Now Marxist Obama steps in, wanting to redistribute the wealth and create a civilian National Security Force, and the media (and most Americans) turn a blind eye. Should be an interesting four years.

By Chris

November 11, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this

Obama said himself that he believes the constitution to be fundamentally flawed.. why would we expect him to uphold it?

By LewisT

November 11, 2008 10:18 PM | Link to this

I was undecided on who to vote for through most of the campaigns. While some of the ideas of Obama sound good, they are also quite socialist. It has always been in the back of my mind since he entered the campaign trail. I hope that we won’t end up as a socialist country, but as many sheep as there are out there, I am afraid that we may see it. As far as gun control goes, if you take away the high powered firearms from normal people, the bad guys still have them. Then you are just outpowered. Why give them the upper hand? We as a country need to be ready to rise in our own defense against our own government if it becomes necessary. If we do become communist, facist, or socialist, it will be our own fault for not standing up for our own rights and priveleges.

By steve

November 11, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

Obama was talking about a strong civilian service corps to handle post-disaster problems, like the Gulf Coast after Katrina.

But, sure, yeah, Hitler’s citizen reconstruction force was well-known for its harsh house-building techniques, so let’s be careful.

By Courtney

November 11, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this

I’m sick and tired of hearing how dumb, ignorant, racist, etc. everyone that disagrees with democrats/liberals are. You have no answer to an allegation so you resort to saying someone is stupid. Paul Broun is an educated man who is paying way more attention to what is going on in the world than all of you kool-aid drinkers out there. I heard the original speech. I felt sick as I heard the words come out of Obama’s mouth. I am proud of Broun. He is my representative and unlike most of the crap we have in Washington he actually represents me. As for white people not voting for Obama because he is black why can’t we talk about all of the people that voted for him simply because he is. I have heard interview after interview with voters that said his race was the reason they voted for him. That’s racist. Race, appearance or how smoothly you give a speech should never be a reason to elect someone to office. Also, I’d like to address the “concentration camp” comment about George w. Bush. I’d like to remind all of you “well read, intelligent” liberals out there that one of your favorite presidents FDR as one of his executive orders (ahem without approval from congress) ordered the removal and relocation of Japanese, Italian, and German Americans (Citizens by the way!!!) to concentration camps here in the US.
Let us all remember that it is easier to stop a train before it begins to move than after is has begun down the track. You may be getting change you’re not ready for and can’t take back.

By Courtney

November 11, 2008 11:02 PM | Link to this

I’m sick and tired of hearing how dumb, ignorant, racist, etc. everyone that disagrees with democrats/liberals are. You have no answer to an allegation so you resort to saying someone is stupid. Paul Broun is an educated man who is paying way more attention to what is going on in the world than all of you kool-aid drinkers out there. I heard the original speech. I felt sick as I heard the words come out of Obama’s mouth. I am proud of Broun. He is my representative and unlike most of the crap we have in Washington he actually represents me. As for white people not voting for Obama because he is black why can’t we talk about all of the people that voted for him simply because he is. I have heard interview after interview with voters that said his race was the reason they voted for him. That’s racist. Race, appearance or how smoothly you give a speech should never be a reason to elect someone to office. Also, I’d like to address the “concentration camp” comment about George w. Bush. I’d like to remind all of you “well read, intelligent” liberals out there that one of your favorite presidents FDR as one of his executive orders (ahem without approval from congress) ordered the removal and relocation of Japanese, Italian, and German Americans (Citizens by the way!!!) to concentration camps here in the US.
Let us all remember that it is easier to stop a train before it begins to move than after is has begun down the track. You may be getting change you’re not ready for and can’t take back.

By Georgian Blue Dog

November 11, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

Paul Broun is simply wrong about Obama’s comments and so out of touch that he is willing to believe anything. Obama’s comments about a national security force had nothing to do with establishing some sort of private militia to be directed by Obama. The comment was made during a speech in July 2008 urging people to volunteer and particpate in national service organizations such as the PeaceCorps, AmeriCorps and other non-military service organizations. Obama has proposed repeatedly to increase funding for these types of organizations and offer increased scholarship opportunities for people who participate in these types of organizations. In his speech he was making the point that national non-military, voluntarism type service is just as important to our national security as military service. A simple web search will reveal the full video and show that the bullheaded ideas about a paramilitary force have already been discredited. Clearly, Paul Broun didn’t get the memo though with his head stuck in the right wing nut job sand. Paul Broun and the radio host criticize the mainstream media for not reporting on Obama’s national security force comment earlier, but clearly miss that the media has not reported on it because the paramilitary group idea was so obviously wrong when you listen to the Obama speech. Paul Broun is an embarassment to the state of Georgia that he can’t come up with a better criticism of Obama than calling him a Marxist. If this is what is left of the Republican party, it will be a long time until they return to any sort of national power.

By petepenguin

November 11, 2008 11:27 PM | Link to this

If you really want to be as well armed as the enemy,don’t you need stuff like tanks and cannons and rockets and atom bombs and stuff like that.I bet he’s going to take those away from us too the dirty commie nazi socialist liberal democrat.

By Al

November 11, 2008 11:30 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Half of you dont know what it means to be a conservative-You are racist hiding behind the GOP flag. After 8 years of right wing leadership, you have lost your job, 401K, home, and health care and you dont think we need a change? Here’s my advice — stop listening to Fox News and all the nuts on talk radio and think for yourself. George Bush is still in office and he has about a month to screw up some more. Again, which administration are you afraid of?

By ken

November 11, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Half of you dont know what it means to be a conservative-You are racist hiding behind the GOP flag. After 8 years of right wing leadership, you have lost your job, 401K, home, and health care and you dont think we need a change? Here’s my advice — stop listening to Fox News and all the nuts on talk radio and think for yourself. George Bush is still in office and he has about a month to screw up some more. Again, which administration are you afraid of?

By petepenguin

November 11, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this

And the other half of you are complete and total…….oh,you guess!

By Frederick Douglass

November 11, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this

I just read Obama’s speech of July 2, 2008, if someone drew a conclusion that he means to set up a Gestapo, then he indeed has a tough row to hoe. How silly can someone be to confuse citizen service with a private defense force? This is just another indication of how terrible our schools have become, when people can’t comprehend what they read, if in fact they can read. I’m more convinced than ever that the right man won, maybe he’ll inspire young people to use their heads for something other than a hat rack.

By Joy

November 11, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this

The hieght of ignorance. thinking it can never happen again. As if, there are no more power hungry dictators left? At least not in our great country? Listen to the words coming from his mouth. Do your homework. Don”t forget, Hitler was elected! Little by little, he stripped the budding democracy. Until finally the economy “completely” collapsed. Now Obama wants the Fed Govt to bail out “private business”. Manufacturing cars is not the gov’t business. Then the people were so fearful and desperate they were more than eager to go along with his insanity. Find out for yourself, read the history books, see if you see any similarities. It’s almost creepy. If you fail to learn from the past, you are doomed to repeat it. You better pray it’s not what it appears. The one hope Germany and Europe had was America. Who will be our hope????

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 12:11 AM | Link to this

I dunno,maybe India.No,probably not.Venezuela,yeah,that’s it,that’s who’ll save us.Hugo Chavez and Venezuela.I hope you speak spanish.

By Ned Delaney

November 12, 2008 1:15 AM | Link to this

I dare say the average person using the term “marxist”, “socialist”, or “liberal” couldn’t define one based on historical fact if they had to. Hence the play on words. Jonah Goldberg wrote LIBERAL FASCISM: The Secret History of the American Left from Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning. He likes to rewrite history and bash liberals. And then we have Chris Hedges’ AMERICAN FASCISTS: The Christian Right and the War on America. It might be worth the time to compare credentials before jumping any conclusions, particularly if you haven’t read either book. But the real eye opener is written by Charles Higham, TRADING WITH THE ENEMY: The Nazi-American Money Plot 1933-1949. And who should appear but none other than Prescott Bush. Hence we have an entirely new perspective on Bush ethics and how they have been taught to play the game. It just goes to emphasize the ignorance that permeates American society and the hypocrisy of those who are in the know.

By Mike

November 12, 2008 3:13 AM | Link to this

Amber: As someone else pointed out, the 2A isnt about hunting, its about the defense of individual freedoms. That being said, some sensible gun laws are certainly needed. THAT being said, there are a couple issues with the types of legislation that Obama has supported in the past… (1) they largly only affect already law-abiding citizens, (2) often the termonology used (e.g., “assault weapon, or “semi-automatic”) is useless.

Did you know that you could have two identical weapons (caliber, operating system, etc.) but just because one might have a black stock versus a wooden one, and one has a recoil-reducing muzzle brake and the other doesnt — one is perfectly legal, yet the other wasnt under the old assault weapons ban? That type of regulation is simply nonsensical and does nothing to prevent gun crime or death — but what it DOES do is open up one more vein for the gun-grabbers to ultimately outlaw grandpa’s squirrel gun and strip your ability to protect your family as you see fit.

An old-fashioned black powder rifle from the 1800’s is FAR more powerful than a good majority of the guns that people have labeled as “assault weapons.” I’ll guarantee you that the current military issue “assault rifle” will not take down an angry bear or put elk meat on your table nearly as easy as General Custers old single-shot rifle would. So why is the “assault rifle” all the sudden so evil? The real answer there is simply because some people think they look scary. The overwhelming majority of guns used in the commission of crimes are of the types that arent on anybody’s radar… the guns everybody seems to want to outlaw are used so very seldomly in crimes that the put the energy and money into banning them just seems so rediculous.

Ultimately, what it comes down to is that we live in a society saturated with guns. Because of that, lots of criminals have them… they have them illegally and in spite of already existing laws. No new law is going to get the guns that criminals already have out of their hands. The only thing new or more restrictive laws will do is make it more difficult for Sally Smith, the owner of the corner deli, to protect her family. The cops cant be everywhere in a moments notice, so Sally should have the right to do whats necessary to protect her children.

I know somebody is going to bring up magazine capacity. Thats just a goofy issue too. People can train themselves to reload weapons very quickly (within a couple seconds), whether they are magazine fed or have some other operating system (such as an “old-fashioned” revolver). I know people who can fire 18 rounds out of a six-shot revolver (with two reloads) just about as fast as someone else could shoot magazine fed pistol that holds 18 rounds without reloading. Yet, the 18 round magazine fed pistol is the evil one that some think should be outlawed, not the six-shot “hunting” revolver.

Its just nonsense! I have no issue debating gun-rights with anti-gun folks, so long as they understand what the heck it is that they’re arguing. If they start throwing around terminology that they dont understand (as I said above), then you just lose all credibility in your arguement. Oooh, a “semi-automatic” is deadly because it can be fired as fast as you can pull the trigger… ok, so can your grandpa’s old revolver that was made in 1921.

There are plenty of laws on the books to do the job of keeping guns out of the hands of criminals. The problem is we have no capacity to enforce them like they should be.

By Suzi

November 12, 2008 5:54 AM | Link to this

Obama IS a socialist, and the idea of a ‘private’ army/entity IS how Hilter got started. THIS is a fact. Why is it wrong for a person to voice that? People seem to forget their history, and then when the same things come around and bite them in the butt, they act all surprised and cry, ‘why didn’t anyone warn us?’. And since when is it wrong for someone to voice an opinion, make an observation or note a similarity in tactics? Things are getting scary folks, and they are gonna get much much worse.

By Tom Becker

November 12, 2008 6:48 AM | Link to this

You’re a real bushwacker, aint ya mike? I always wanted to face down one of you fancy pistoleros. You must be the Josie Wales of blogging.

Suzi, the Hitler card is proof of a moron, sorry, it just is.

The right is going to find it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to change gears from the ridiculous hysteria it generated during the campaign.

Obama is our president. Respect his office.

It’s amazing, but The Right suddenly finds itself as a party without a country, a cause without a rebel, an all-you-can-eat buffet without a fat chick….

I know, you get the bit.

By Michael Snead

November 12, 2008 7:17 AM | Link to this

The Hitler card was wrong because Hitler also hated Marxists and was a good man compared to the members of the politburo. That is why he attacked Russia. The correct comment would have been to call him a Stalinist. The communist murdered 167 million plus people in their 39 years of reign from 1917 to 1956.

A man, who the communist successfully put in wraps and hid, Lazar Moiseyvich Kaganovich, murdered 20 million people from early 1930 to 1940 and even sent 10 million Russians into battle knowing they were not properly equipped and most were killed or froze to death.

I will say this…after years of studying Marxism, Nazism, dictatorships and democracy….Hussein Obama IS a Marxist.

By Trel

November 12, 2008 7:59 AM | Link to this

Barrak and Rahm, now there’s a couple of all American names!! They will take care of Mr. Broun alright. What method will they use to get rid of him?

By Copyleft

November 12, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

It’s fun watching ignorant right wingers throw around terms they clearly don’t even understand, like ‘Marxist’ and ‘socialist.’

For those watching from overseas, the winning candidate was from the Democratic Party; the Socialist Party’s nominee (yes, there was one) did not win. We just have a lot of very stupid, very confused people who honestly think that liberalism is the same as communism! Funny, isn’t it?

By NonGOPsupporter

November 12, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

WOW…!!

Republican congressman said he was just concerned about some of the Democrat’s “Marxist positions.”

He certainly had the choice to say “positions” and to present those positions further substantiating his concern.

I think that all intelligent people’s throughtout the world can agree that this serves as a compelling reason for parents to instill in their children the foundational building blocks of life.

Fortunately Nov4th showed us and the world that we can vote those types of thought processes into obscurity.

Unfortunately those thought processes indicate the need for another government bureaucracy specially designed to deal with those suffering from such mental defect because prison’s simply can’t address it appropriately.

Through better understanding we can eliminate the bantering back and forth with those that are afflicted.

We all have the right to make the “right” choices in life, however some persist in selecting the wrong choice which only serves to further the need to have better institutions of education and rehabilitation and to develope stronger more effective medications.

HTH

By bendi67

November 12, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

Paul Broun is the typical loony republican hypocrit,he’s the same guy who proposed a bill to ban Playboy,Maxim from the military.I believe Mr. Obama’s emphasis on surmounting our differences for the greater good are crucial to getting our country back on track. broun’s comments evoking Hitler were beneath the civic dialogue and counter-productive to our nation’s tackling of more pressing matters. BTW.President Barrack Hussein Obama, is our Commander in Chief? Isnt that Unpatriotic and Anti-American for broun and the rightwing nuts to talk ill of him ? Do they even support our men and women in uniform? I mean, how does it look to the Terrorists when you people belittle,criticize and abandon support for your Nation and your President? Better get in line folks, the coin flips both ways!Remember for 8 years, the time when you loonies equated political dissent with being unpatriotic? So,let’s play politic with the same rules you idiots have invented…Don’t you folks know that by disrespecting or calling our president Barack HUSSEIN Obamma names like marxist,communist,puppies beater,kitten killer,you are giving confort to the terrorists,al qaeda,the evildoers,Iran? You people are terrorists sympathizers,you are UNPATRIOTIC,you want America to fail.Shame on you!

By bendi67

November 12, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

Paul Broun is the typical loony republican hypocrit,he’s the same guy who proposed a bill to ban Playboy,Maxim from the military.I believe Mr. Obama’s emphasis on surmounting our differences for the greater good are crucial to getting our country back on track. broun’s comments evoking Hitler were beneath the civic dialogue and counter-productive to our nation’s tackling of more pressing matters. BTW.President Barrack Hussein Obama, is our Commander in Chief? Isnt that Unpatriotic and Anti-American for broun and the rightwing nuts to talk ill of him ? Do they even support our men and women in uniform? I mean, how does it look to the Terrorists when you people belittle,criticize and abandon support for your Nation and your President? Better get in line folks, the coin flips both ways!Remember for 8 years, the time when you loonies equated political dissent with being unpatriotic? So,let’s play politic with the same rules you idiots have invented…Don’t you folks know that by disrespecting or calling our president Barack HUSSEIN Obamma names like marxist,communist,puppies beater,kitten killer,you are giving confort to the terrorists,al qaeda,the evildoers,Iran? You people are terrorists sympathizers,you are UNPATRIOTIC,you want America to fail.Shame on you!

By bendi67

November 12, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

Paul Broun is the typical loony republican hypocrit,he’s the same guy who proposed a bill to ban Playboy,Maxim from the military.I believe Mr. Obama’s emphasis on surmounting our differences for the greater good are crucial to getting our country back on track. broun’s comments evoking Hitler were beneath the civic dialogue and counter-productive to our nation’s tackling of more pressing matters. BTW.President Barrack Hussein Obama, is our Commander in Chief? Isnt that Unpatriotic and Anti-American for broun and the rightwing nuts to talk ill of him ? Do they even support our men and women in uniform? I mean, how does it look to the Terrorists when you people belittle,criticize and abandon support for your Nation and your President? Better get in line folks, the coin flips both ways!Remember for 8 years, the time when you loonies equated political dissent with being unpatriotic? So,let’s play politic with the same rules you idiots have invented…Don’t you folks know that by disrespecting or calling our president Barack HUSSEIN Obamma names like marxist,communist,puppies beater,kitten killer,you are giving confort to the terrorists,al qaeda,the evildoers,Iran? You people are terrorists sympathizers,you are UNPATRIOTIC,you want America to fail.Shame on you!

By Will Jones

November 12, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

Look at his face and know the countenance of a man with no character.

Broun dodged into the Marine Reserves to avoid Vietnam. When it looked like he might get called up he dodged into medical school.

His “love of Medicine” is evidenced by his escaping into service for the political branch of the Roman Anti-Christ’s Fifth Column, to support his fellowtraveler homosexual draft-dodging, 9/11-committing Gay Old Perverts.

The good and decent Georgians of his district must not allow themselves to be so ill-served again, and a recall should not be ignored.

Jeffersonian Exegesis

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

I can’t believe the number of you who support Rep. Broun and not our new commander in chief.How unpatriotic can you be! This puts you on the side of the evil doers,the terrorists,Al Queda and Iran. This is MY country,love it or leave it.Support the commander in chief or be guilty of treason! Just using your arguments for support of Pres. Bush for the last 8 years.See how this works,folks? Words have meaning.Read a book.Better yet,instead of believing this nonsense,read the entire speech for yourselves instead of letting ignorant congressmen tell you what it says.People,IT DOES NOT SAY WHAT YOUR IDIOT CONGRESSMAN SAYS IT DOES! Please read more and not just on the right wing web sites.Expand your knowledge base just a bit,please.

By Jane Doe

November 12, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

“A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasurey, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship”- 18th century Scottish philosopher/historian, Alexander Fraser Tytler

If Congressman Broun can’t ask this question about Obama’s comments of having a “civilian national security force”,then I don’t know who can. We need to be able to question our President. Unfortunately, the media has become so biased, that they HIDE these things about Obama. It is a sad testimony of the media that this was not brought up in JULY when he said it. That is a very dangerous statement to be made by a man who wants to be president of the United States of American, a FREE nation. We are not Cuba or Venezuela. You people who think this country is so bad, go over to some other countrues where the government runs everything. You will then see where we are headed with the Obama administration. He ran on CHANGE and boy, are we going to get it!!!!!!!!!

I say to Mr. Broun, Hang tough!!!!!!!!! You have my support. I choose to be informed not by the “OBAMA MEDIA” and you people who voted for OBAMA need to do the same, so you can be intelligent about your decisions.

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

Jane Doe,no one says he can’t question anyone.Did you read or hear the speech? He does not say what your idiot congressman says it does.Please read for yourself what it says. People all over the country think you and your representive must be inbreeding to produce such ignorant and backwards views.Please join us in the present,read more.PLEASE.

By Herschworld

November 12, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

evidently Paul must have been picking his nose during the last State of the Union when his republican caleague George W. pitched his civilian national security reserve corps to the entire nation???Republicans have selective memory Regan, and Teddy started progressive taxation, Obama mentions it and all of a sudden it’s socialism

By cjohnson

November 12, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

The Republicans should get rid of loons like Paul Broun. It makes their already joke of a party look even worse. I voted for Bush twice. Once because I thought he was the man for the job and once so he could fix the mess he made. Looks like the only fool bigger than him was me.

The Republican party can screw themselves now that they have screwed the country. I voted for Obama and wish him luck to solve this mess.

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Jane Doe,you left out some of the words you quoted.Here is the whole quote. A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

Why even participate if you won’t be honest?

By volker

November 12, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

The real danger is the revival of the “Dolchstosslegende”, which created the movement that brought Hitler into power. Let’s hope that Mr. Broun will fail with his efforts.

By yankee

November 12, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

I love the great thinkers here who can’t figure out the “Post” box.

By ChrisJ

November 12, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

What Broun said has been heard around the world. Insane talk like that is one of the big reasons the majority of the world hoped Obama would win. Someone has to rein in these idiots; don’t they understand that what they say reflects on the Republican party and our country. Imagine what they think of us! Hope those of you in Broun’s district can come up with a good candidate for the next election.

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

yankee….quit trying to change the subject.Everyone knows that “post” box is to honor C.W.Post,who put out the first postum,a cereal beverage in 1895.What a delicious treat! There are no great thinkers on here

By Jim

November 12, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

There is so much misinformation being spouted on this page that it is mindboggling. Where do I start?

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

Jim,that is a very intelligent discourse on the subjects and I’m sure I get you.The problem is,I do not believe the group of people you are trying to reach have the grasp on reality one needs to understand the facts.But I did so enjoy reading post. I stand corrected,there may be some great thinkers on here.

By BitterClinger

November 12, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

Mr. Obama is Stalinist. There is a difference.

By Good Old Boy

November 12, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

The fear for many of the right wing fringe isn’t in the violation of the Constitution. They had no problem with Bush doing it because he was “one of us”. Their real fear is that someone “different” will violate the Constitution.

I wish that everyone who wants to refer to “that” speech by Obama listen to the WHOLE speech before commenting so that you can understand how you’ve been manipulated towards greater and greater baseless fear.

By NonGOPsupporter

November 12, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Quote: I say to Mr. Broun, Hang tough!!!!!!!!! You have my support. I choose to be informed not by the “OBAMA MEDIA” and you people who voted for OBAMA need to do the same, so you can be intelligent about your decisions.

My response to that is simply….

It certainly was a relief and exciting to see people all over the world celebrate the partial removal of our “Weapon of Mass Destruction” on Nov 4th.

Quote I choose to be informed not by the “OBAMA MEDIA”

I chose to be informed by both parties, however my choice not to eat moose pot pie’s for the next four year’s I think was the same choice the majority also made or maybe you didn’t notice.

When your boy Mr. Broun used terms like Marxist and Nazi he in essence signaled his desire to end his support and relationship with our newly elected President.

That’s fine with all and that certainly is his option, however it is the option of the people to signal the end to our relationship with him at some time hopefully in the near future.

I think it’s important we elect mature intelligent respectful people to represent us all…… throughout the world.

Na Na Na Na Na Na Na your a Nazi, your a Nazi..!!

That level of maturity is usually departed when you arrive in middle school. NOT IN THE SENATE.

Certainly we all can select someone better to represent us.

Doesn’t really lend itself to maturity or intelligence or respect.

And some might consider Nazi as vulgar as I’m sure the people who live through that period in time might attest to.

Using words like Nazi and Marxist shortly after a world wide celebration might signal to some the need to expel that type of expression as being totally inappropriate in any election process by any one we elect to the privilege to serve us all and our country.

Simply Mr. Broun pack your bags we don’t need your kind in the United States of America Senate.

There’s certainly better out there available I’m sure.

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

BitterClinger clinches with the winning statement. My hats off to you,you’ve proved the point.Congratulations!

By DavidE

November 12, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Paul Broun’s ignorance of history is astounding. Nazi Germany did not have a domestic security force separate from the army. The fact is that the Nazi government used the army for domestic security, and this was one of the cornerstones of the oppressive Nazi government. For this reason, the modern German constitution expressly forbids the army from participating in any kind of domestic policing. Paul Broun owes apologies not only to President-elect Obama but to everyone he (deliberately?) misled with his empty fear-mongering rhetoric.

By Aaron Burr V. Mexico

November 12, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

If Obama is a Stalinist then Bush and Republicans are Satanists….and that’s an insult to Satanists.

By Good Old Boy

November 12, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

The fear for many of the right wing fringe isn’t in the violation of the Constitution. They had no problem with Bush doing it because he was “one of us”. Their real fear is that someone “different” will violate the Constitution.

I wish that everyone who wants to refer to “that” speech by Obama listen to the WHOLE speech before commenting so that you can understand how you’ve been manipulated towards greater and greater baseless fear.

By NonGOPsupporter

November 12, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

BitterClinger clinches with the winning statement. My hats off to you,you’ve proved the point.Congratulations!

I second that…!!!

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Sadly,the intended party or parties will not see the intent.One has to wonder what it is they do see but the nightmares must be horrific for them to spew the venom that comes out of them.

By Larry

November 12, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

Republicans should stop accusing liberals of being Marxists, because they’ll always deny it even as they’re espousing Marxist ideals. What we should do is ask Obama which tenets of socialism he disagrees with. Then sit back and enjoy they silence.

By Jim

November 12, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

My God, are people still worrying about socialism? Do you think it’s 1962 still? In case you haven’t noticed, the Cold War is over, the Berlin Wall has fallen and there is no more Soviet Union! The chance of “socialists” taking over the United States is negative one zillion. Why don’t you just be honest? There are only two possible reasons that you are so upset about Obama being president. Either you just can’t stand the idea of someone other than a Republican being president or you just can’t stand the idea of someone who isn’t white being president. Democrats aren’t socialists. They are the other political party in this country and they have just as much right to be elected as Republicans do! And in case you haven’t noticed, they seem to be the majority of the people in this country, not some radical lunatic fringe.

By sandy

November 12, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

Spouting off FEAR comments like this .. “we MIGHT have a problem” … is exactly what we are trying to move away from. Catch up! Move forward! Why not do something to help Obama solve our problems - submit proposals, engage in dialog - instead of feeding the FEAR that this country is already full up on and is now regurgitating.

By Blake

November 12, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Paul Broun is a moron. Now, I’m not comparing Paul Broun to morons, I’m just saying that the things he says concern me that he might be a moron. I mean, there have been morons elsewhere that have said the same things as Paul Broun, who are just as moronic as Paul Broun, but again, I don’t mean to sound like I’m saying Paul Broun is a moron. I’m just saying that the moronic things he says are things that a moron would say, which would make Paul Broun a moron. But I’m not comparing Paul Broun to morons. I’m just saying….

By blake

November 12, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Paul Broun is a moron. Now, I’m not comparing Paul Broun to morons, I’m just saying that the things he says concern me that he might be a moron. I mean, there have been morons elsewhere that have said the same things as Paul Broun, who are just as moronic as Paul Broun, but again, I don’t mean to sound like I’m saying Paul Broun is a moron. I’m just saying that the moronic things he says are things that a moron would say, which would make Paul Broun a moron. But I’m not comparing Paul Broun to morons. I’m just saying….

By HILLARY 2012

November 12, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

Mr. Obama does not need help. He is the messiah. He is hope. He is change. I hope things changes soon, or he will be just another lying politician. I give him 9 months to show some hope and change. After that, I will be getting ready for 2012.

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

Hillary,the election was one week ago,Obama is not even officially president yet and in case you have not noticed,people are already more hopeful about the future.Why not pitch in and help instead of sitting off to the side complaining? And Blake,that was absolutely great. Jim,dude,like I said,I get you but you’re wasting your fingers on these other guano heads.Keep it up though,I do enjoy your comments.

By HILLARY 2012

November 12, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

ACORN stole the election for Obama. He is not legitimate in this Hillary supporter’s eyes. Hillary will have to take him on for the nomination in 2012. I bet Obama will screw things up so badly by then that it will be easy to get the nomination.

By Jim

November 12, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Blake, hilarious comment. Petepenguin, thanks for the compliment and I agree with your advice to Hillary, let’s not “give him 9 months to show some home and change.” We all know the country is in trouble. Why don’t we all help fix things instead of hoping that Obama will fail? Unfortunately, I think a lot of people want him to fail. I hope they come around and realize that this country is in sufficient trouble that we can not afford to have him fail.

By HILLARY 2012

November 12, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

Jim, how can the “Chosen One” fail? He is the one that we have been waiting for. If he can’t change things soon, then maybe he is not the one we thought he was. It is time for him to show what he really has, not just words or speeches.

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

Hillary,ACORN did not steal any thing from anyone.Please do not repeat right wing talking points.ACORN registers voters.Show me one case of an illegally registered voter who got to vote.No cases of Mickey Mouse voting? How about Donald Duck? In my state,I have to show picture ID to vote so again,I urge you folks to read,PLEASE.And if you were truly a Hillary supporter,you would join with her in supporting our president-elect.I’m not as dumb as you look.Is that a good one or what?

By Jim

November 12, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

Hillary, can you site any actual evidence that there were fraudulent votes cast for Obama, or is it just speculation like so many of the postings on this message board? If you do have any actual evidence, I would like to know what it is. And the fact that some ACORN people were caught making up fictitious voter registrations is not evidence that anyone voted who wasn’t supposed to. A fictitious voter registration is just a registration. It does not prove that anyone actually voted who didn’t have the right to. If you are going to make the very serious allegation that Obama “stole” the election, I would like to see your evidence.

By HILLARY 2012

November 12, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

I do not care what you what like to see, Jim. I know what I know. And I know for sure that I do not answer to some Obamamaniac that offers nothing but plaititudes and words. No wonder you are an Obama supporter. Obama has something to prove and he needs to show results soon after he takes office. He said that the whole world was waiting on him to solve its problems, so I ready to see some problem solving and to see the economy turn around. Since he is “the one” this should not be too hard.

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

There will be no evidence because there isn’t any.Much like the Obama isn’t eligible to be president claims,he’s a muslim (not that it matters,my own represenitive is muslim,I voted for him),he’s a marxist,a socialist,a nazi,and ad infinitum.It’s insane.Again,I merely ask people to read and not just right wing outlets,all of them,please.

By BitterClinger

November 12, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

He is “that one,” not “the one”. Lets be clear here, alrighty.

By Jim

November 12, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Dear Hillary, Barack Obama is the “chosen one” in one sense only. He was chosen by the majority of the voters to be our president. Now why don’t you support our president-elect as both Hillary Clinton and John McCain have requested? I think Hillary Clinton would be very disappointed in your attitude. By the way, I didn’t vote for Barack Obama because I think he’s some kind of demigod. I think he’s just a man and I’m sure he will make many mistakes. But I believe that he wants to help this country. I think he is intelligent and has some good ideas and I think he will do a better job than John McCain would have. I actually liked Hillary Clinton very much and I think she would have made a good president also. But she didn’t get her party’s nomination, so we have to move on and try and help the country heal its wounds.

By BitterClinger

November 12, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

I think you Obama supporters need to get some thicker skin. After the all the names Bush was called. After the books and movies advocating the most horrible things on Bush one could imagine. After the years of constant obstruction by the left. After all of that, you guys dare whine about the treatment Obama is getting? LOL. That is too silly even for a bunch of lib dems.

By Aaron Burr V. Mexico

November 12, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

Keep it up Hillary.

I just gave $10 a while ago to help pay down Campaign debts.

If I keep seeing crap from from the PUMA people on the internet, I’ll probably contribute 10 times that to whoever runs against her in the senate.

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Okay,let’s let him actually take office before we put him on a time limit.He cannot do anything until Jan. 20th when he is sworn in.President Bush is still commander in chief just as President elect Obama has said.One president at a time.With that,I’m done.Jim,I agree,it doesn’t matter at this point who we supported,we need to start working on the problems that face this country.Maybe we all can find somethings we basically agree on at first.Good luck to you in Georgia.I’m glad I live where I do.

By Aaron Burr V. Mexico

November 12, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

Just call me Stone Skin BitterClinger. Call me all the names you like I’ll just hurl more back.

Bush was a monster and if you can’t figure that out, you’re only worthy of contempt. Its my hobby. I don’t reason with mental midgets.

By Jim

November 12, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

I like the “I know what I know” answer, Hillary. It reminds me of “Joe the Plumber’s” statement that electing Barack Obama would mean the death of Israel. Afterwards, Joe the Plumber was interviewed on Fox News (not known for its liberal bias, by the way) and when asked what evidence he had to make a statement that Barack Obama would mean the death of Israel, he said “Don’t ask me. I know just enough about foreign policy to be dangerous.” I’m sorry, Hillary, but “I know what I know” is not a very persuasive argument. What “I know what I know” really means is “I don’t know.” It means “I heard someone say it and I believe them without doing any research.” Or it means, I’m very angry and disappointed that Barack Obama got elected and I’m going to say things without having any real basis for knowing whether or not they are true. Also, I do not appreciate being called an “Obamamaniac.” I didn’t call you any names. I didn’t call you a “Hillary-ite”, for example. Name calling is a dangerous thing. It’s a way to de-individualize someone and to imply that they are not making a decision based on their own reason, but rather, that they are just a lemming following the other lemmings. Well, Hillary, unlike you, I do not “know what I know.” I learn what I know. I research, and read, and learn about what the candidates’ voting records and opinions are, and then I use my reason and my intellect to make a decision. And maybe Obama won’t be a great president. We’ll just have to wait and see. But I’m going to give him a chance. Just like I gave George W. Bush a chance. When he was elected, all my liberal friends said, “This is going to be a disaster” and I said, “Let’s give him a chance.” Well, we gave him two chances and he did a pretty horrible job. Why don’t you give Barack Obama the same courtesy that I gave to George W. Bush?

By Churchill

November 12, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

My wife asked me to scrape the “W” sticker of her trusty Volvo and replace it with a a “ALTA” sticker, I said hell to the no

By Blake

November 12, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

Oh, c’mon, Hillary. The ONLY people who ever called Obama “The One” or “The Anointed One” or “The Messiah” are the right wing nuts like yourself. You guys made up the names, and then try to ridicule Obama supporters as if they had made them up.
But here are the facts. Obama won. Your guy lost (nobody’s falling for the Hillary supporter stunt. What are you, in 3rd grade?). We’ve tried the Republican way of running things, and the majority of Americans have decided that they’ve had enough of it. Sure, there are still some diehard dittoheads who won’t watch anything but FauxNews, and won’t listen to anything but Hate Wing Radio, but ya know, you can lead a Con to water, but you can’t make him THINK. When Bush was first, um.., elected, I didn’t like it, but I hoped he succeeded, because the country needed him to. It’s obvious you want Obama to fail, so that you can laugh as America fails, too. Where was the Real America Palin talked about again?

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

My wife asked me to wash the windows and I said I don’t do windows,I’m an executive an GM and then she shot me and I deserved it so I could not complain and that’s why ( Insert candidates name here )should not be president and will lead this country into a return to the middle ages.I rest my case.

By JRon

November 12, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this

There are none so blind as those who will not see. These times were fortold. Read 2 Nephi 5:21

Obama was clearly mentioned by St. John but even those who read still refuse to believe.

So, Non-believers! What does science say about the coming time?

Google this: “Sector Operations Bulletin No 19 “Markab, the Final Handling””

Investigation … has revealed that “X” plans to take a new “control point” body… An analysis of Markabian scenarios indicates that this will be either the body of, or the body of the adviser to, the President….From either of these positions, he would be able to exert influence toward the acceptance of a one-world police state.

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

Mormon,Christian and Scientology…you need some Koran some Hindi some Buddha,little bit of the Torah who am I leaving out,wiccan,yes indeed wake up you people. Oh,and,read a book,any book,at least one a day.Thank you so much.

By meg

November 12, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this

For crying out loud, before you flip out over this ‘national security’ force issue…go look up what Obama was talking about. Cong. Broun is a loon.

By RMG

November 12, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this

I am fully supporting our next President. He is knowledgeable, intelligent, and a centrist. I am again disturbed by those incited by Mr. Broun, Ms. Palin, and others to hold on to their unreasonable fears and ignorance. I thought our county was past name calling and marginalizing others. I am disappointed in our leaders who subscribe to this behavior, including the NON-apology. Here is an excerpt of the transcipt from PE Obama’s speech to which Mr. Broun based his claims. PLEASE be fully informed and realize the contaxt of the words versus just the words. For those of you who refuse to exert critical thought process before passing judgement or spouting vile words, don’t bother reading.

So we are going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We’ll call on Americans to join an energy corps, to conduct renewable energy and environmental clean-up projects in their neighborhoods all across the country.

We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, and to be there for our military families.

And we’re going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

We need to use technology to connect people to service. We’ll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where American can browse opportunities to volunteer. You’ll be able to search by category, time commitment and skill sets. You’ll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities.

This will empower more Americans to craft their own service agenda and make their own change from the bottom up.

In peace.

By petepenguin

November 12, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

RMG,Others have posted the speech in this thread and the morons still do not get it.They are not reading it I guess.I see no further point in this,these people are idiots and deserve Rep.Broun.

By Sterl

November 12, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

This entire thread is quite fascinating and entertaining, but I must take my hat off to Jron as the most entertaining of all of our political observers. Great stuff, sir…! If you’re soliciting for an online blogging job or a journalism job with a satirical news rag like The Onion or The Daily Show, then you’ve done a swell job and I hope they discover you…Best of luck with your audition…!

Conversely, if you’re really serious, then we should all lobby the Obama administration and the next Congress to increase funding for mental wards so that both you and the Honorable Mr. Broun can get the quality psychiatric treatment you both need and deserve. This is America, after all, is it not? We take care of our own….you betcha…!!

By RMG

November 12, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

petepenguin November 12, 2008 10:50 PM

Thank you for the heads up and of course, you are correct. Trying to reason with the unreasonable…I will move on now. Be well.

By KERJEN

November 12, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this

Last I checked “one”man was not bigger than our country. Remember we have a government designed with a check and balance system, and the moron that made the comments is part of that system. No man will ever become a dictator of the U.S. As I now live in Connecticut, I’m embarrassed to say that I was born and raised in GA. This is on of many ignorant comments I’ve heard or read about in the last 2 years. Backwood Georgia please evolve! It’s no different from when I left.

By KERJEN

November 12, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this

Last I checked “one”man was not bigger than our country. Remember we have a government designed with a check and balance system, and the moron that made the comments is part of that system. No man will ever become a dictator of the U.S. As I now live in Connecticut, I’m embarrassed to say that I was born and raised in GA. This is on of many ignorant comments I’ve heard or read about in the last 2 years. Remember, he’s from the same party that believed and tried to convince the U.S. that Palin was qualified to be Vice-President.

By KERJEN

November 12, 2008 11:22 PM | Link to this

Last I checked “one”man was not bigger than our country. Remember we have a government designed with a check and balance system, and the moron that made the comments is part of that system. No man will ever become a dictator of the U.S. As I now live in Connecticut, I’m embarrassed to say that I was born and raised in GA. This is on of many ignorant comments I’ve heard or read about in the last 2 years. Remember, he’s from the same party that believed and tried to convince the U.S. that Palin was qualified to be Vice-President.

By Frank Citizen

November 13, 2008 12:50 AM | Link to this

Sounds like ‘They’ got to him! But Congressman Broun hit it right on the head…at least he said what a lot of us are thinking. Although I did not vote for Obama, we are stuck with him for four years (unless of course Philip Berg comes up with something more). Since we’re stuck with President-Elect Obama, we should pray that God will change his heart and help him make good decisions. God Help us…we’re in the hand of Socialist Democrats!

By NonGOPsupporter

November 13, 2008 5:59 AM | Link to this

Quote: In case you haven’t noticed, the Cold War is over, the Berlin Wall has fallen and there is no more Soviet Union!

Reagan was instrumental in “tare down that wall”.

Bush then installed that wall between Mexico & USA. I wonder did we get a discount buying the wall or something.

As far as the Cold War ending thank you JFK.

We might not be blogging at this moment with out that great American.

Was he a Democrat??

As far as the Soviet Union, thanks to the Bush Cult the Soviet Union now wants to position weapons on the Polish border as of Nov5 2008.

I wonder why..?? Maybe GW Bush’s dynamic personality.

History….

By NonGOPsupporter

November 13, 2008 6:27 AM | Link to this

Wikipedia Terrorism is the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion. Most common definitions of terrorism include only those acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants.

Mr. Broun consider the following sniplet…

acts which are intended to create fear (terror)

systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

So your means of coercion (act) was intended to create

More Fear or More Understanding.

Seem from this blog some might say more fear.

From my point of view I’m more fearful of people like you.

Thus more fear.

Does that make you a “terrorist”.

You used Marxist to further your ideological goal and to enhance the fear factor.

You could have just presented your concerns for all to evaluate then of course their wouldn’t have been any fear at all.

We then could have rationally disused your concerns for validity without the inclusion of fear.

Seem Mr. Broun your act falls within the definition of a terrorist.

Unlike yourself Mr. Broun…. I’ve proven my concerns and where there are exactly.

By Dbie

November 13, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

The only thing embarassing about his initial remark is Broun has now allowed himself to be bullied into taking it back.

One has only to look at the proposed initiatives under the Obama administration, and compare them to Marx, and you’ll come to the same conclusion. Unless, of course, you’re too concerned with covering your own behind for voting for him that you keep the wool pulled down over your eyes and your fingers in your ears.

WAKE UP, PEOPLE. You just turned America into a Socialist country. Thanks so much.

By DavidE

November 13, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

Paul Broun’s ignorance of history is astounding. Nazi Germany did not have a domestic security force separate from the army. The fact is that the Nazi government used the army for domestic security, and this was one of the cornerstones of the oppressive Nazi government. For this reason, the modern German constitution expressly forbids the army from participating in any kind of domestic policing. Paul Broun owes apologies not only to President-elect Obama but to everyone he (deliberately?) misled with his empty fear-mongering rhetoric.

By tim

November 13, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

A black man becomes president and some white people (and I do mean only some) act like the sky is falling!!! What are you guys so afraid of? Are you so afraid that a black man in power that you will stoop to any ignorant ,fear mongering statement to undermine the power of the president of the Untied States of America! But most people aren’t that stupid (although some clearly are!),buy into this crap! If Broun were to simply say “I hate blacks and I hate the fact that a black man was elected president”It would be far more honest!

By Beware of Barry

November 13, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

I am politically independant and I think Paul Broun made a good point.

Hitler was a anti capitalist, gun grabbing, bible banning, pagan socialist.

The nazi ranks were full of homosexuals.

It is a travesty that so many people believe hitler was on the right.

Heck, I can’t think of any fascist, tyrant, dictator or terrorist who was/is not a socialist.

By Katie

November 13, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Paul Broun was exactly right & should not have apologized. Hitler was a socialist (national socialist party - ie- nazi). eerily, Obama has had a lot of similar rhetoric- his own website “required” that all middle/high/college students perform 50-100 hours of community service which has now been taken off the site. So has his “national security force.” Obama has had socialist influences since childhood. Why do we expect anything less than socialism from him? Read Marx- socialism is only one step from communism. Once we are socialists- there is no power left to the people to fight communism. We keep steadily relinquishing our rights.

By Question Authority

November 13, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

I commend Paul Broun for having the courage to say what he said. It is too early to call Obama a Marxist dictator, yet he was absolutely right in bringing to light some of Obama’s Marxist like proposals. Always question authority, left or right. Four months ago,in Obama’s speech, he said that he wants to implement a Civilian National Security Force. For anyone who doesn’t know the defintion of this, it is: A quasi-elite military force that served as Hitler’s personal guard and as a special security force in Germany.( American Heritage Dictionary) This doesn’t need to be clarified? Why has he not clarified what he meant? When Obama’s transition team was asked for a comment on Paul Broun’s remarks, they declined to comment! A spokesman for Obama said he was refering to a Civilian Reserve Corp that would handle postwar reconstruction.. Oh, really? A Civilian Reserve Corps is way different than a National Civilian Security Force. For Obama’s transition team to leave this hanging is an ominent sign. He should be pressed until he gives us an answer. He should also be asked why it took him so long to respond. How many Nazi survivors, their children and grandchildren heard those chilling words and could not sleep? How many people are fearful of what he meant? How dare he incite fear in people and not have the decency to fully explain what he meant. How arrogant. How cruel. If anything, he needs to respond in detail, if only to be reminded that he was hired to work for us, not the other way around.

By magnoliabel

November 13, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this

I agree with Paul Bourn that Obama is a Marxist at heart. After all, Obama did spend 16 years in a militant, radical Liberation/Marxist church under Rev. Wright. No one could spend that amount of time listening to a man and not believe what he preaches. Just go to Wikipedia and look up Black Liberation Theology and see what kind of roots it has.

By Jason

November 13, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Does Obama’s statement not alarm anyone:

“We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded [as the military],”

This statement should be well-scrutinized.

The one great thing about Bush was that he was not well-trusted so the population has been suspiciously on guard.

Obama followers need to listen well to what he says and to be careful not to blindly follow.

By petepenguin

November 13, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

As I stated earlier,if you support this guy,you deserve the scorn you are getting from the rest of the country.I don’t know if you noticed,but we had an election and your side lost….badly.Your side barely won your own state.Do you think you might be the ones who are mistaken? Irrational fear people,one more time,try reading the entire speech.If you come to the same conclusion,I give up on you,you’re idiots.He does not say in that speech what you or your representative say he said. Either learn to read or read more,please.

By Hope Deferred

November 14, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

It is interesting to note how rabid Obama supporters become when anyone dares to challenge his legitimacy or his motives. Screaming invective replaces reasoned discourse. Surely, anyone who would propose a standing army within the United States would have only one motive, that is to control the American people. Surely, any intelligent person would be opposed to such a scheme and surely it is appropriate to suggest it reminds one of Hitler’s Brownshirts.

By petepenguin

November 14, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Dear Hope Deferred,No one proposed a standing army. Sorry to disappoint you,I’m not rabid.Please read the entire speech.No reasonable person could come to your conclusion.Well,unless you’re an idiot and surely you aren’t an idiot,are you?

By GOPgoonpouting

November 14, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

Paul Broun is a total embarrassment to Georgia, but I think McCain did a pretty good job of “helping” Saxby Chambliss (i.e. republican party) with his campaign when he so eloquently said in his speech promoting Saxby…. “Saxby Chambliss is doing what “”we republicans”” should have been doing all along… cutting spending”. Now that’s funny I don’t care who you are! Everytime a republican opens his/her mouth - their foot seems to just pop right out.

By rj

November 14, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

ToPetePenguin: It doesn’t matter what the entire speech says. He said “a CNSF bigger than all our military and just as well funded”. Now there have been countless questions asked as to what he meant, by people all over the country. You don’t believe he should have clarified himself? We are living in extremely uncertain times and it is his responsibilty to respond to concerns of citizens. It took four months before a lame response was given AFTER Paul Broun bravely said what he said. Obama’s transition team actually refused to comment, but a spokesman said he was refering to a civilian national reserve. Well, a civilian national reserve is quite different than a civilian national security force. So, he has yet to expain himself. (And while he’s at it, maybe he can cough up a valid birth certificate and unseal his college records). He has also talked about Youth Groups, Universal Required Service and Rahm Emanuel wants universal compulsory service. This isn’t something to be questioned? Maybe you need to do some more reading yourself, about Nazi Germany-how it all started. History not learned is doomed to repeat itself”

By Pequod

November 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

rj

Perhaps you can supply the many missing premises in your argument that explain the slippery slope from Obama’s policies to those of the one party, no free speech Nazis, which attempted to destroy an entire group of people. However, I rather doubt it. In fact, the oppression of freedom speech and dissent in America has come from the right much more than the left and fascism received what support it had in the United States from Republicans such as Charles Lindbergh and the isolationists who opposed FDR’s intent to fight Nazi Germany. One can also recall the many fascist dictatorships in Latin and South America that the Reagan administration supported and sometimes called “freedom fighters.”

The only more frightening GOP politician in the Georgia delegation is Lyn Westmoreland who is so stupid he really seems to believe what he says. I don’t think Broun does believe half of what he says but he knows that the best way to gain the attention and votes of poorly educated, white, working class males, is to engage in talk show style rants of the sort Limbaugh, Boortz, and the many other circus barkers of “talk radio.” Broun and Westmoreland with their laughable invocations of religion, guns, free speech, queers, and liberals reminds one of old George Wallace and Lester Maddox. As one generation of hated filled demagogues die off a smaller, less talented group comes after them. With some luck we may live long enough to watch them vanish from the political scene or voted out of office and left to wander in the political wilderness of mindless talk radio.

In the meantime we can enjoy their frustration after getting their butts kicked in most parts of the country.

By petepenguin

November 14, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

rj.Maybe you are the one who needs to read more. You be vigilant if you think you need be.All the things you just posted have been brought up ad infinitum and if you’d bother reading anything else beside right wing blogs and Fox News,you’d know that.Your group gets smaller and smaller.Maybe you see things no one else does and it’s a huge grand conspiracy.I believe you are wrong.If you would rather call people names,go ahead. Can you explain why everyone is laughing at Georgia? You think it’s because the rest of the country sees you as the intelligent part of America? That’s okay with me.Good fodder for comedians.

By Ousmane

November 14, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this

I just checked this guy’s website out. Please check this out if you have not already done so. It’s a riot.
(www.paulbroun.com) If I lived in Georgia and had voted for this guy, you know what I would do? I would make haste. Before the Obama administration makes it difficult for the mentally handicapped to purchase guns; I would rush to the nearest gun shop and purchase the biggest shot gun I could find. I would then load the gun, put the muzzle in my mouth and promptly blow my brains out. This would be much easier and more honorable than living with the shame of what I had done in the voting booth. BTW, have any of you folks slinging the “Marxism” term around actually studied any of the works of Karl Marx? I strongly suggest you do so.

By Ousmane

November 14, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this

I just checked this guy’s website out. Please check this out if you have not already done so. It’s a riot.
(www.paulbroun.com) If I lived in Georgia and had voted for this guy, you know what I would do? I would make haste. Before the Obama administration makes it difficult for the mentally handicapped to purchase guns; I would rush to the nearest gun shop and purchase the biggest shot gun I could find. I would then load the gun, put the muzzle in my mouth and promptly blow my brains out. This would be much easier and more honorable than living with the shame of what I had done in the voting booth. BTW, have any of you folks slinging the “Marxism” term around actually studied any of the works of Karl Marx? I strongly suggest you do so.

By rj

November 15, 2008 12:51 AM | Link to this

To Pequad I cannot supply the the missing premises that explain the slippery slope from Obama’s policies and those of the Nazi’s because he has yet to take office… but..what he has proposed so far is exactly what Hitler proposed in pre-war Germany. And in the same economic climate. I would like to add that the oppression of freedom of speech may now very well come from the left in the form of the re-introduction of the Fairness Doctrine. What is wrong with questioning? We are all at the mercy of a big government and we have a responsibility, be it from the left or right, to protect our freedom. To Petepenguin: I don’t think our group gets smaller and smaller. Wait till Obama decides not to give the tax break to the middle class. Wait till ALL of our taxes go up, which they will because you can’t just print money forever. We’ll see how big our group gets.

By petepenguin

November 15, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

To rj: You don’t think your group gets smaller and smaller? Did you all stay at home this election? You go ahead and support Rep. Broun and the only way your group will get bigger is because you are eating too much and gaining weight.That will make your group bigger.Keep hating and crying about the results.Oh,and about printing money,you mean like how our current president,Mr. Bush,has done for the last eight years? A tax break isn’t why I voted for Obama.You think what Rep Broun said about Obama is appropriate and correct,fine.You think this makes the state of Georgia look good,that’s fine also.I do not.It makes the state look backward and ignorant.I have no problem with that,I don’t live there.Comedians need to get their material some where and Georgia seems to have it in abundance. So,yeah rj,we’ll see.

By Dr. Cat

November 15, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

Obama’s going to take over America like Hitler by doubling the number of people we have in the PEACE CORPS? Or maybe it’s those other volunteer and charitable organizations he’s gonna load up with more people. OH NOES.

You know, if Broun and some of these idiot Broun supporters would stop and think for a moment what would happen if Barrack told all his Peace Corps volunteers “Hey guys, stop building schools in Africa and teaching people and transporting medicine and stuff, I want you to get some guns and take over America for me so I can be a dictator like Hitler” - what would they do? They’d say NO. None of those kind of people are interested in being an America-conquering Hitler-supporting nutjob, so they’d refuse to do it for him. As would 99.999% of Americans from either political party, if anybody ever tried to set up a military force that would make him a dictator. Quit indulging in your paranoid fantasies and figure out what’s really going on in the world. And how you could help with the economic recovery or something.

Or go join the friggin’ Peace Corps. I promise you it’s far more about helping people than it is about taking over America for Hitler. Really, go read up on the Peace Corps if you don’t believe me!

To the guy that said “the rest of the speech doesn’t matter” and “why doesn’t Obama clarify what he wanted that big group to do” - the rest of the speech CLARIFIES what he wanted them to do, so I guess it DOES matter. Go read it. He mentioned teaching, Americorp, Peace Corp, etc. Check it out, srsly.

By willia451

November 15, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

Too bad he didn’t have the courage to make his comments, BEFORE the election.

Then, we wouldn’t even be talking about this.

Cause he’d be out on his rear end.

By jlove

November 17, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

I have read some of the comments listed and I really feel sorry for a lot of people who consider themselves americans. These people would rather have a 70 something republican and a air head running this country. If McCain died during his term, Palin would become president. How scary is that? Bush stole the election not once but twice: thanks to brother Jeb and under handed tactics. America has been under their thumb for 8 years and have suffered because of it.

You are too busy looking at the color of Obama’s skin to really understand what he is saying. You pre judged him before he opened his mouth. You must also remember this country does not belong to us the white people. This country was populated long before Columbus came. Wake up and get over it. We are not back in the time when whites ran everything and kept other races in the back seat. We are in 2008, the funny thing about people who judge and hate is that a majority of them are supposed to be christians. What a joke. I m really sick and tired of hearing that there is no racism by us whites. Your actions are proving that there is still racism. You say blacks are going to be more aggressive. How many blacks are going around blowing up white churches, beating up whites, not giving whites a job. Look at the big picture here. American is a meltin pot of all races and there should be opportunity for all.

By Antonio Sosa

November 17, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

jlove, like most informed Americans, I don’t care if Obama is black, white, purple or blue! What terrifies us is his MARXIST credentials, the fact that his parents, mentors, friends and associates are all Marxists who hate America, the fact that U.S. enemies (like Hugo Chavez) were sallivating at the prospect of an Obama’s victory, the fact that we can already see in Latin America what happens when Marxists like Obama take over (poverty, violence and corruption multiply, and people lose their freedoms and rights). A Congress controlled by “progressives” caused the financial crisis and, brainwashed by the media against Bush, Americans hand their country to their enemies.

What does color matter! We need someone who loves America, not a Marxist who hates our country and who has been working with people who hate America (Ayers, Wright, etc.).

By petepenguin

November 17, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

Antonio,do you think the rest of us are hiding things from you.The things you have brought up have been hashed out and rehashed out over and over.We all love America. You don’t have a monopoly on love of country or patriotism. Obama doesn’t hate America and if you could take a step back from the hate and disinformation being generated by the right wing blogs you’d see that.Did you see Ayers on TV friday morning? After the show,many blogs were taking his words out of context ,dropping entire sentences or outright lieing about what he said.I would urge you to research for yourself by going to MSM sites,newspaper sites and other blogs as well as Fox News and the right wing bloggers.There you can take all the information and ask questions to all sides.Please expand your research,knowledge is a good thing to have in your possession.Please.

By Keith Forbes

November 17, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this

I am disgusted that a sitting member of Congress would insult a President-Elect. Beyond the Marxism comment, which if you actually knew what Marxism was, you would ignore completely, Congressman Paul Broun compared Obama to Adolf Hitler, a genocidal maniac. This is much more serious as it is insulting to the memory of Hitler’s millions of victims. Shame on you Congressman Paul Broun. Grow up.

By Bob

November 17, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this

Fascinating posts. A lot of you people are really funny!

I did not vote for Mr. Obama, but I can tell you he is not a Nazi, Communist or Marxist. Instead of listening to lies and twisted words, get yourself some books by reputable historians and read about Hitler, Lenin, Stalin and their ilk.

For example, Hilter’s brownshirts, the SA, was a private army of ex vets enraged by Germany’s defeat and humiliation after WWI. They terrorized Germany after the war by beating up and killing leftists, jews, etc. To think Obama could create a similar situation would be laughable if it wasn’t so pathetic.

Instead of creating unrealistic doomsday scenarios in your heads, you should be more worried about the many real problems we face as Americans and commit yourself to help solving some of them. That is what will keep us truly free.

By ben

November 17, 2008 10:39 PM | Link to this

“Constant vigilance is the cost of freedom” Thomas Jefferson

By petepenguin

November 18, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

D******* in congress will be the death of us all -Pete Penguin

By Ms. Pretty

December 2, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

I am from where Paul Broun was born and it makes me feel like a A* to have him say some s** like that about OBAMA!!! I am so happy that OBAMA won and that he is our first BLACK PRESIDENT!!!So hate on BROUN… This world needs change and I am very happy about that… STILL TODAY I AM UPSET ABOUT YOUR STUPID COMMENT THAT REALLY WAS A CRUEL THING TO SAY ABOUT ANY PERSON and MAYBE WE SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR A*… YOU CREEP!!!

By Ms. Pretty

December 2, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

I am from where Paul Broun was born and it makes me feel like a A* to have him say some s** like that about OBAMA!!! I am so happy that OBAMA won and that he is our first BLACK PRESIDENT!!!So hate on BROUN… This world needs change and I am very happy about that… STILL TODAY I AM UPSET ABOUT YOUR STUPID COMMENT THAT REALLY WAS A CRUEL THING TO SAY ABOUT ANY PERSON and MAYBE WE SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR A*… YOU CREEP!!!

By Concerned Citizen

December 4, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Broun is an idiot for making any reference to Hitler or Nazis when speaking about the president elect. Everyone has been taught since childhood that Hitler was an evil man. In my own personal opinion, the Nazis eventual destruction would have probably come from within had they not been defeated in WWII. Now that I have that out of the way, I think what this babbling idiot was trying to say is the following: comments that Obama has made while running for office does make one weary as to his intent and as to how he is going to perform in office. There are similarities to what he has suggested and Marxism. I do agree that everyone should take a wait-and-see attitude towards his presidency. I personally did not vote for him, because I felt like his campaign was based on nothing. He promised change, but never went anywhere with this. McCain and his political crew were idiots in their own right for not tackling the issues and playing the same game. I think Obama won, because his smoke screen looked better than McCain’s. I have to say I was disappointed by both parties and what they presented for candidates.

By Antonio sosa

December 14, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this

As someone born in Ecuador with friends and relatives in Latin America, it has been extremely painful to watch how people in the United States were manipulated by the media and the hundreds of millions spent on propaganda to manufacture the Obama’s image.

Americans were manipulated just like people in Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia and Ecuador to put a Marxist in power.

The similarities between Rafael Correa’s campaign for president of Ecuador and that of Obama for U.S. president were amazing. Correa had no experience but was young, charismatic and had good speaking skills. Correa’s slogans were the same as Obama’s: CHANGE, YES WE CAN, etc.

Informed Ecuadorians were not able to convince their clueless compatriots that Correa was a fake and not the young and wonderful savior the media was portraying. They could not compete in ads with the millions Correa had (mostly from unknown sources).

Once he took over, Correa dissolved Congress and took control of the legislative and judicial powers. In other words, he became a dictator. Ecuadorians are poorer than ever. The CHANGE has been toward Marxism and greater poverty for all.

It’s now obvious that Correa works with Chavez and terrorists (including Islamic terrorists) AGAINST Ecuadorians, the United States and the Free World.

Most informed Ecuadorians, when they realized the similarities between Correa and Obama, felt confident that Americans could not be fooled as Ecuadorians had. However, it seems many Americans were as clueless as the poorest and most ignorant people in Ecuador or Bolivia.

Brainwashed by a leftist and fraudulent mainstream media, Americans did not realize that Obama is a Marxist with ties to Islamic terrorists, just like Castro, Chávez, Morales, Correa and Odinga (Obama’s Kenyan relative).

Chávez, Morales, Correa, Ortega used the same strategies of lies, manipulation, intimidation and fraud as Obama to become elected and, once elected, they have imposed “socialismo del siglo XXI” (Marxism) and have multiplied poverty, violence, insecurity and corruption. They have begun by “redistributing wealth” and have ended up distributing scarcity, terror and misery. They are working with Islamic terrorists against their own people and the U.S.

Their teacher (Castro) transformed a once wealthy and happy Cuba into a Gulag of desperate souls, whose only hope is to escape. They are not free to escape, but many risk their lives to do it. It’s estimated that some 150,000 Cubans have died trying to escape. Some three million have escaped and live in exile.

Many Americans demonstrated to be as gullible as the poorest and most ignorant Bolivians and Ecuadorians, who believed in CHANGE and YES WE CAN without realizing that CHANGE means change to Marxism and greater poverty and misery, and YES WE CAN means that people like Chávez, Obama and Correa CAN fool you.

By GOP. Lost in space

December 16, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

The world is changing and the GOP is scaryed to death. just because we don’t look like you don’t mean we want to hurt you. You and the southern gop base has been in power and just look what has happen to the country. You clowns are the real terrorist. just like in the civil war you clown fight for the rich and still do. Most of you are working class and poor and they use you clowns up. you all call the people who voted for Obama Marxist . we understand what the GOP has done to our country took us down the tube . All you clowns do is call people names when they don’t think as FU_K up as you clowns. Right is right no matter what color they are and wrong is wrong no matter what color you are . You clown need to wake up and see the country is more than just white or southern white. This country is made up of all kinds of people that don’t look like you. we love america and want america that look like all america. Change is comming like it or hate . The southern redneck Gop is why the world hate us because they think they know every thing and only they can make it right and you clown are so wrong. It will take every body to make this country strong

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