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That budding water war between Obama and Georgia Republicans? Never mind.

The water war between Barack Obama and Georgia Republicans is hereby called off on account of new evidence.

A five-paragraph Associated Press story out of Tallahassee on Friday declared that Obama, the Democratic presidential candidate, had taken Florida’s side in the three-decade dispute over water with Georgia and Alabama.

Click here to read the entire Obama statement upon which that AP piece was based. But here is the relevant portion, which is so even-handed as to be meaningless:

Florida, Georgia, and Alabama have disputed the water allocation of the Apalachicola, Chattahoochee and Flint rivers for more than two decades. Attempts at negotiated settlements and previous compacts have failed and devolved into countless lawsuits. To date, the only winners in this dispute have been the lawyers….

Obama and Biden would call on the governors of Florida, Georgia and Alabama to once again convene a stakeholder-driven process to reach equitable water sharing solutions. The difference this time would be that Obama would direct the National Research Council to conduct a study….

The study would provide the scientific basis for reaching an equitable solution, a solution that protects the drinking water of Atlanta’s citizens and provides sustainable flows for productive agriculture in south Georgia and Alabama, and for the fish and wildlife that inhabit Florida’s northwest region and the industries they support….”

Nothing new here. Move along.

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By sammy

October 17, 2008 9:38 PM | Link to this

Sorry Galloway, byut you’re wrong. There’s two new points here:

1) in his statement (check the AP Tom…you know, that unbiased news agency that covers these kinds of things instead of relyign on Obama campaign propaganda) he said: As President, I will make protecting Florida’s water resources a priority.

2) he sent a campaign represenattive to Appalachicola Bay to announce that he was endorsing a proposal that violates the current federal law requiring the Army Corps of Engineers update the water control manuals, which would give us all the info we need to apportion water. furthermore, the studies he calls for are ALREADY BEING DONE by the Corps!

So, to sum up: he’s calling for a study that already being done, and standing on the banks of Appalachicola Bay in Florida and saying he will make FL’s water resources a priority.

He could just have easily done the same at Lanier or West Point, but where’s the political benefit in that?

Please Galloway, quit being such a liberal and try and be unbiased, ok?

By sammy

October 17, 2008 9:38 PM | Link to this

Sorry Galloway, byut you’re wrong. There’s two new points here:

1) in his statement (check the AP Tom…you know, that unbiased news agency that covers these kinds of things instead of relyign on Obama campaign propaganda) he said: As President, I will make protecting Florida’s water resources a priority.

2) he sent a campaign represenattive to Appalachicola Bay to announce that he was endorsing a proposal that violates the current federal law requiring the Army Corps of Engineers update the water control manuals, which would give us all the info we need to apportion water. furthermore, the studies he calls for are ALREADY BEING DONE by the Corps!

So, to sum up: he’s calling for a study that already being done, and standing on the banks of Appalachicola Bay in Florida and saying he will make FL’s water resources a priority.

He could just have easily done the same at Lanier or West Point, but where’s the political benefit in that?

Please Galloway, quit being such a liberal and try and be unbiased, ok?

By Alec Martin

October 17, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this

If it was such a “nothing” than why did Senators Chambliss and Isakson write this letter to Obama about meddling in Georgia’s water situation?

We are in a hydrolic drought (the worst kind) and 3 states are fighting over “our” water. Another reason why Obama is naive and inexperienced:

U.S. Senators Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., and Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., today sent a letter to Senator Barack Obama, D-Ill., expressing their disappointment with comments he made on Oct. 16, 2008, regarding water allocation issues in the Apalachicola-Chattahoochee-Flint and Alabama-Coosa-Tallapoosa river basins.

The text of the letter is below:

Dear Senator Obama:

We are writing to express our disappointment with comments made yesterday by you and your campaign relating to water allocation issues in the Apalachicola-Chattahoochee-Flint (ACF) and Alabama-Coosa-Tallapoosa (ACT) River basins. As you may know, these river basins serve Georgia, Alabama, and Florida. While we appreciate your recent and sudden interest in the tri-state water issues we have been working on for the past six years, the comments by you and your campaign reflect a fundamental lack of understanding of the nature of the problems in the ACF and ACT basins, a lack of understanding of the requirements of the Army Corps of Engineers with regards to the ACF and ACT basins under federal law, and a cavalier disregard for the needs of the residents of Georgia.

According to your campaign’s statement, you “would direct the National Research Council (NRC) to conduct a study to assess the water availability, supply options, and demand-management alternatives that factor into ACF River System usage, as well as the impact of freshwater flow on the ecology of the Apalachicola River and Bay.” You also said “As President, I will make protecting Florida’s water resources a priority.”

As you may know, the Army Corps of Engineers is required under federal law to update the water control manuals for the ACF and ACT basins, and recently announced it would begin doing so in the ACT basin. We were pleased to hear from Secretary of the Army Pete Geren personally that the Corps is moving forward with updating these manuals, because it will allow the Corps to make smarter decisions in their management of these river systems. We have underscored to him how important this action is. As you also may know such an update would include studies to assess water supply and demand, and environmental management practices for ALL the users and stakeholder in the basins, not just those on the Apalachicola River and Bay. To ask the Corps to ignore its responsibilities under federal law in favor of the residents of Florida is a clear affront to the residents of Georgia. To state that you will make protecting Florida’s water resources a priority over Georgia’s shows that you do not care about the needs of the people of Georgia.

We have continually worked to get Georgia, Florida and Alabama together and to force the Corp of Engineers to update a 20-year-old Water Control Plan for the Alabama-Coosa-Tallapoosa and Apalachicola-Chattahoochee-Flint River Basins. In 2006 we held Senate hearings in Gainesville and Columbus to implore the Corps to keep its commitment to update its outdated water control plan for the two river basins.

On August 1, 2007, we met with Secretary Geren as well as Assistant Secretary of the Army for Civil Works John Paul Woodley, Lieutenant General Robert L. Van Antwerp and General Counsel Craig Schmauder. At the meeting, Secretary Geren indicated his desire to give mediation time to work before starting the update of the water control manuals.

When Secretary Geren gave his commitment to us that if and when mediation broke down and was not making progress, he would begin the update of the water control manuals, we held him to that promise. On September 28, 2007, after judges involved in the mediation announced that the talks had broken down, we sent a letter to Secretary Geren strongly urging him to honor his pledge to update the water control plan.

On October 18, 2007, Secretary Woodley told both of us by telephone that the Corps will start the process for updating the water control manual for the Alabama-Coosa-Tallapoosa River Basin.

We also facilitated meetings in Washington between the Governors of Georgia, Alabama, and Florida, as well as meetings between the Governors and the Secretary of the Interior Dirk Kempthorne, and Council on Environmental Quality Chairman Jim Connaughton. We continue to work with the Governors and their staffs to come to a solution so the states can take advantage of the productive talks they have had and agree on a resolution.

From Lake Lanier to Lake Allatoona, from Atlanta to West Point Lake, and from LaGrange to Columbus, we have worked to find a solution that benefits not only the people of our state, but all those who reside in the river basins. It is unfortunate that you wish to undo the good work we have done to find a solution for all the people in the river basin and instead prioritize the needs of only the people of Florida.

Sincerely, Saxby Chambliss Johnny Isakson United States Senator United States Senator

By shirley

October 18, 2008 12:55 AM | Link to this

Jim, I agree with you.

By Michael

October 18, 2008 4:30 AM | Link to this

I am in agreement with Jim as well. Move on.

By Analchemy

October 18, 2008 5:57 AM | Link to this

This is prima facia evidence of Obama’s plot to build a piedmont-sized Islamic WaterPark.

He must be stopped. Vote dry.

Obama 08: Slip-n-slidin’ w/Biden

By Bill Gaffney

October 18, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

It is not only a water war! I live in a right wing neighborhood in Roswell. I have had three Obama signs taken from my yard. I am glad Obama is using water to court Florida. What does Georgia offer him. I love to see these Georgia Republicans huffing and puffing.

By Bill Gaffney

October 18, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

It is not only a water war! I live in a right wing neighborhood in Roswell. I have had three Obama signs taken from my yard. I am glad Obama is using water to court Florida. What does Georgia offer him. I love to see these Georgia Republicans huffing and puffing.

By ObamaSupporter

October 18, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

Congrats Bill. It is nice to see that you are one of the “lucky ones” to make it to a nice area of town. We know that you are surrounded by racist people if you live around rich, selfish right wingers. I guess that you are ready to be taxed and do your patriotic duty. Hopefully Obama will force all the right wingers out of their homes when he forces them to spread their wealth. I bet you cannot wait to get rid of those evil conservatives that live around you. Obama and Socialism is the Change we Need.

By Will Jones

October 18, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this

We’ve been suffering from fascist “redistribution of wealth” into the pockets of the philistine false-elite - evidenced the spiralling concentration of wealth profiting those who support, or failed to remove, the corrupt, treasonous faction now in power.

“Public Corportations” were named that because the only reason they received the “shield” of limited liability is that they were created to serve the Public…in building roads, dams, and other public works projects.

The People, the Public, is sovereign in these United States of America.

Corporate Fascism now rules within the Roman Anti-Christ’s Fifth Column, the unconstitutional fiat money system they implemented, and the policies and practices their sectarian faction has used to betray the Creed and Principles of Our Founding.

Restoring justice by correcting de facto fascism’s evils is not socialism, it is whig republicanism, the ideal, the Dream, of America.

Racists, Nazis, draft-dodging hypocrites who support treason, assassination and false war, and Mammon-worshipping philistiines in support of the Gay Old Perverts and the Rockefeller/Bush branch of the Roman Catholic Anti-Christ are Tories, and barring attitude adjustments must be “re-educated” as the Tories were in 1776.

The “fertilizer” of the Tree of Liberty should flow waist deep if any attempt to steal the third election in a row is made.

The Anti-Christ is to be cast into the Pit. November the Fourth is the day the Righteous and True of America must do it.

Martin/Obama ‘08

By Jones, Will

October 18, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

Obama is going to blow it. His stupid answer to Joe, The Plumber was political malpractice. This is giving McCain the opportunity to attack on the economy. Obama has himself to blame for this one. Obama may have peaked to soon. This is a two point race among likely voters. Is he some sort of amatuer?

By Will Jones

October 18, 2008 7:39 PM | Link to this

Afraid to use your own name?

Sam, the German Roman Catholic wannabe plumber, now called “Joe,” was a plant by the McCain/Palin camp.

Watch him interviewed. He is obviously a BS’ing mental midget and bald for a reason. He lied of his circumstances and is either delusional or another typical loser backing the bullethead moron Married to the Mob McCain and Hitler-in-Drag Palin.

At $40,000 a year, in his 40’s, he isn’t that great a plumber either.

Rome’s Fifth Column must be fully expropriated and banished. The traitors in its leadership must be tried and fried.

“Wealth” stolen from the People by the fascist plutocracy profiting from generations of the Roman Anti-Christ’s corrupt policy, assassinations, false war, fraudulent elections and fascism must be “redistributed” away from the pseudo-Americans responsible for the treason.

Say you’re against justice for America by the Creed under which we were founded and identify yourself as a Tory, using your own name.

Though it’s highly unlikely, if it is your name, work on your grammar.

By Joe the Thumber

October 18, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

I have a question for Obama. What if I, like, buy a cruise line, or, say, an airline, like, would my taxes go up? I mean, I worked hard, and everything. I saved some money too, man. What about my taxes, man?

By DJ

October 19, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this

Drink beer instead of water….

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