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Second-guessing the McCain nomination
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
They’re asking the political professionals at The Arena an interesting question: Could any GOP candidate be doing better than McCain?
Personally, I think the answer’s no, not a chance. The Republicans nominated the only candidate who could have hoped to make it close, the only candidate who could credibly claim to be, well, a maverick Republican. A lot of the pros say the John McCain of 2000 would be doing better, but that discounts the impact of that old McCain on the GOP base.
The latest Gallup poll, by the way, puts the margin at nine among likely voters. And John Zogby, who yesterday sent conservative hearts fluttering by announcing that McCain was making a big surge, now says nevermind, just kidding. “”Obama has consolidated his lead over McCain.”
As to yesterday’s excitement, says Zogby: “A special note to blogger friends: calm it down. Lay off the cable television noise and look at your baseball cards in your spare time. It is better for your (and everyone else’s) health.”
He has the margin at 5.7 percent.




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Comments
By hillbilly ragger
November 2, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this
I don’t put much stock in David Brooks, but he said something wise on Friday (some NPR show), to the effect that “this election was over nine months ago.”
I.e., the republicans weren’t gonna win, barring some crazy event that might’ve happened in their favor. Bush was monumentally unpopular, and yet in order to win the nomination the Republican candidate had to profess fealty to that crumbling administration.
So it didn’t really matter who they nominated; and like BobDole in ‘96, might as well give it to the old guy who always wanted a shot.
By Hillbilly Deluxe
November 2, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
If only I had those baseball cards from my youth. Mickey Mantle, Warren Spahn, Willie Mays, Henry Aaron, Frank Robinson, Whitey Ford and all those others. Like many who lacked the wisdom that age brings, I put them in my bicycle spokes. It did sound cool at the time though.
By Obama the Shyster
November 2, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
OBAMA: I am my brothers keeper. OBAMA: I am my sisters keeper.
OBAMA: However, I do not give a squat about my aunt living in poverty in a Boston slum or my half brother in Kenya living on $1 PER MONTH!!!!!
OBAMA: I expect hard working Americans to help them-not me! Share the wealth, er, YOUR WEALTH,NOT MINE!
Bureaucrat: Obama’s Aunt Zeituni is an “Exemplary” Slum Resident
Just more proof Obama is a slick talking, lying shyster, and sucks dumb or socialist/Marxist people in to vote for him!
By getalife
November 2, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
Lets hope this will end the Rovian politics of hatred and division and our country can come back from the w disaster.
Lets celebrate the end of w.
By ByteMe
November 2, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
Zogby’s a hater!
By T
November 2, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
I’m going to buy a nice bottle of Hennesy XO. Maybe a little sparkling wine for the 4th. If Obama wins I’ll be dancing in the streets with happy tears.
If McCain wins, it will be the same as the last presidential election. Just tears.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
We will soon find out that nominating Obama the super lib was a mistake.
By Midori
November 2, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
and putting Bush in office was an abomination.
By Morningstar
November 2, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
By Obama the Shyster November 2, 2008 3:06 PM OBAMA: I do not give a squat about my aunt living in poverty in a Boston slum
Good afternoon everyone. I’d be willing to bet most people know very little, if anything about their grandparent’s siblings, unless you have a very small family.
Speaking of my family, I can just imagine what these older relatives would have said if someone, especially extended family, had tried to inquire into their personal business. You don’t wish to know!!!
By G
November 2, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
I don’t know….now that Cheney has endorsed him, McCain may have a chance. Ha!Ha!
Seriously, if Obama wins, I’ll be so high up on Cloud 9, it’ll take a week for me to come down.
If McCain wins, it’ll be because some BIG time cheating went on. If that happens, I can only hope we don’t just lay down and take it this time.
Obama/Biden ‘08
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
Let’s see here, the obvious question, did Zogby get a threatening phone call from “somebody?”
Pollster John Zogby: “Is McCain making a move? The three-day average holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama today, 48% to 47%. He is beginning to cut into Obama’s lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all. “Obama’s lead among women declined, and it looks like it is occurring because McCain is solidifying the support of conservative women, which is something we saw last time McCain picked up in the polls. If McCain has a good day tomorrow, we will eliminate Obama’s good day three days ago, and we could really see some tightening in this rolling average. But for now, hold on.”
Hmmmmm.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
In 2004, Zogby had Kerry up 2 points 3 days before the election.
How’d that work out for y’all?
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
Before polls had even closed in the 2004 presidential election, Zogby predicted a comfortable win for John Kerry (311 electoral votes, versus 213 for Bush, with 14 too close to call), saying, “Bush had this election lost a long time ago,” adding that voters wanted a change and would vote for “any candidate who was not Bush.” While admitting that he was mistaken, Zogby did not admit any possible flaws in his polling methods, insisting that his predictions were all within the margin of error.
Suckers.
By Taxpayer
November 2, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Well, the guessing and waiting and polling will be over soon enough and we will definitely see an end to Bush/Cheney and there will be fewer Republicans in Congress. At the very least, we will be one step closer to fixing the damage wrought on this country by the Bush administration. Further, especially given our current economic state, McCain was by far the best shot the Republicans had and even that won’t be near good enough unless McCain pulls out a picture of Obama shaking hands with Osama — something like a Rumsfeld style handshake with Saddam.
By Mike In Woodstock
November 2, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Welcome To ISLAM!!!!
May the Love of Mohammed be with you and may you all come to embrace the peace loving religion of ISLAM!!
I’m beating all of you to the punch….I took my wife Burkah shopping this afternoon!
By T
November 2, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
An email that might do us some good.
To keep the peace and keep a lot of folks from getting nervous, I think
we should develop a list of acceptable celebrations and behaviors we should probably avoid - at least for the first few days:
2 No high-fives - at least not unless the area is clear and there are no witnesses
No laughing at the McCain/Palin supporters
No calling in sick on November 5th. They’ll get nervous if too many of us don’t show up.
We’re allowed to give each other knowing winks or nods in passing. Just try to keep from grinning too hard.
No singing loudly, We’ve come this Far By Faith (it will be acceptable to hum softly)
No bringing of barbeque ribs or fried chicken for lunch in the company lunchroom for at least a week (no chittlings at all) (this may make us seem too ethnic)
No leaving kool-aid packages at the water fountain (this might be a sign that poor folks might be getting a break through)
No Cupid Shuffle during breaks (this could indicate a little too much excitement)
Please no Moving on Up music (we are going to try to remain humble)
No doing the George Jefferson dance (unless you’re in your office with the door closed)
Please try not to yell——BOOOO YAH!
Just in case you’re wondering, Doing the Running Man, cabbage patch, or a backhand spring on the highway is 100% okay.
Please don’t wear your OBAMA T-shirt the day after he wins. They(McCain supporters) will think we’re mocking them.——
I like to do the George Jefferson dance daily, but I will change my ways.
Moving on up……..
By Just_Me
November 2, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
getalife
Unfortunately, I think the disgraced repugs will spend the entire Obama administration looking for and making up scandals (as they did with the clinton’s—how much time/money did ken starr waste???)
I hope you’re right—i really do. I for one am tired of divisiveness- and have been so for years.
tolerance sucks folks-let’s try for ACCEPTANCE.
T thanks for that—however, it made me laugh, which triggered the coughing spasm that took five minutes to clear (bronchitis/pneumonia sucks!). On Wednesday, regardless of what the outcome, I am NOT taking my Obama button off my pocketbook as the school district has directed. It isn’t considered “campaigning” any longer—i will be showing my support for our new president…
;->
By getalife
November 2, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
Can we do terrorist fist pounds ][
Yes, we do need to support our new President.
Lets all pray, he is not another w.
By "The Corporal"
November 2, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
This country has not been so seriously divided on ideology since the Civil War.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this
Second guessing-
Maranto says what’s causing Pennsylvania voters to give Obama a second look goes beyond Obama’s “share the wealth” notion: “They are suspicious of him and his Ivy League buddies who have never run anything in their lives (but) that now want to run the country.”
He adds that “it is all in the arrogance.”
Who will close the deal in Pennsylvania? The polls say Obama; the pundits, too.
Let’s see what the voters say.
We will, believe me.
And there is nothing that you liberals can do about it.
By RW-(the original)
November 2, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
Jay B,
I’ve never been a McCain supporter, but if I was to have answered this question during the summer I would have said that the GOP really didn’t have any option with a chance except him. I’m not so sure now. Assuming the economic news followed the same timing it did I think Romney might be better positioned. Of course if Romney was the nominee Schumer probably would have held off on causing a run on the banks.
Morningstar,
Ordinarily your story of extended family would be believable, but not in Obama’s case. Some of you supporters really should read his books.
By getalife
November 2, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
In the spirit of bipartisanship and hope for unity, lets make a deal.
Our friends on the right will support Obama if he wins and our friends on the left will support McCain if he wins.
Who is with me to be “real Americans” thinking “country first”?
Andy?
By ron
November 2, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
John McCain was as good a pick as any.Out of the number running he was by far the best pick.It was actually a sorry group of candidates running in either party.It looks as if the sorriest of the bunch is going to win.That’s sad when you think about it .
By Just_Me
November 2, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
“Corporal
This country has been HORRIBLY divided ideologically since ‘00.
Where the hell have YOU been?
Bush didn’t win the popular vote in ‘00. Divided nation.
Bush squeaked out a win in ‘04. Again, no mandate, divided nation.
Wake the hell up, will you?
By Midori
November 2, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
T,
Nov. 4 is my 53d birthday, and I’ve already put in a request to take the 5th off :)
Corporal,
it appears the only people who are divided are those of your ilk.
the rest of us (the remaining 20 percent or so) are doing just fine.
don’t you get sick of posting that nonsense?
I sure get sick of seeing it.
By Just_Me
November 2, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
Midori Happy b-day in advance…you’ll have much to celebrate…
;-)
Me? Going back to work with the kids. One burst into tears on Friday-‘cause another student mentioned that it looks like Obama was going to win. What the hell are parents saying in their homes that a 10 year old would CRY and be afraid? I spent a good deal of time, reassuring him that no matter who wins, he will be FINE……..
It is just so sad when you see the evidence of hate that is being thrown at KIDS…
Parents: teachers hear all kinds of “interesting” stories from home. Be very careful (I always stop mine and say, “Hmm, that’s a “home” story-keep it there, you’re parents would be happier!)
By Mrs.Godzilla
November 2, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
getalife
Bush-less-ness is indeed cause for celebration.
“”T”“
We have champagne and fireworks. And after the yard sign problems these last months, a special display of hope for tomorrow night. ( you can do amazing things with christmas lights!)
Morningstar
I have an Uncle who wandereed off years ago. It was perhaps for the best. I understand that Obama has a problem picking up his dirty clothes. Do you think Brit Hume will break that news?
G
The McCain campaign does not want to make Mrs. Godzilla have to call in PATRIOTIC 11/5 and drive to Washington.
Taxpayer
I think they should have run Huckabee. They would have had the base from the start. They’d still lose.
**Mike in Woodstock”“
At Christmas please remember “Pearls with basic black burka”. Your bride will think well of you.
T
I apologize in advance for actually doing a few of those things next week.
Just_Me
Yes, they won’t go away quietly. BUT there are lots more of us. We’ll be fixin’ whats wrong, and they’ll just look more and more out of touch.
anyway……..
I see some folks didn’t play well together this weekend.
We better get used to it.
All Real Americans will be called upon to help our Nation change for the better.
I’m glad to.
By Just_Me
November 2, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
Re: Obama not knowing the details of his half-aunt’s life.
As someone with two half-brothers-one I’ve never formally met nor exchanged words with; the other-the relationship is limited to his (frequent) television appearances—i wouldn’t know what the hell anyone from my father’s side of the family is doing. Full aunts, half-aunts, brothers, etc.
And, i had more contact with MY father than Obama did.
Give it a rest. Just one more “issue” real Americans/ concerned voters know doesn’t make a difference…
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
By getalife November 2, 2008 4:49 PM In the spirit of bipartisanship and hope for unity, lets make a deal. Our friends on the right will support Obama if he wins and our friends on the left will support McCain if he wins. Who is with me to be “real Americans” thinking “country first”? Andy?
al-Gitmo: That would be up to Obama.
Will he enact all of the socialist legislation that he has coveted his entire career. I’m pretty sure he would, whether the country survived it or not.
So there is no way that I could support this, well, I have to watch my words.
It’s a moot point anyway, the American people will not elect him.
Just watch.
By Just_Me
November 2, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G
Happy Sunday to you…
I am getting some balloons Monday night and tying them to my two O/B signs and to my mailbox. ;-) No one’s dared to steal our signs (maybe i live in a more “tolerant” area? nah. I think the specter of my very large, well muscled, Watusi warrior lookin’ hubby kinda scares the neighbors!)
the husband doesn’t know yet, but he and i are going out to dinner, too!
Andy? I am borderline, i say borderline almost feeling sorry for you.
Do you really, really, I mean REALLY believe that you will hear the words President-Elect McCain on Wednesday?
Wait-no rhetoric—don’t even answer here…just for once, child, be honest-if not with the world, at least with yourself…life is so much easier when you don’t have any delusions…..
By Just_Me
November 2, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this
interesting political map
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
Yeah, I know they have a wickedly liberal/dem bent, but go check out the map…..
By Midori
November 2, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
Just Me,
thanks very much.
guess what I wished for my birthday present? :)
Landslide, baby.
LANDSLIDE :)
By RW-(the original)
November 2, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
Teachers: Please learn the difference between “your” and “you’re” so our kids will have a chance. Thanks!
By T
November 2, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
Midori
Happy Bday. Whhoooo Hooooo.
I am sorry, Just_Me. Just passing it along.
Oh, thanks for leading our youth. My nephew says his principal told him that it is time for a brown man to be in control.
I voted Obama. However, that seems like racism and I don’t like it.
Oh, if I do the George Jefferson dance on the 4th, it sould be ok. Everyone is getting laid off anyways. I love trickle down economics.
Moving on up…… To the east side……..
By Taxpayer
November 2, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G,
Huckabee on the ticket! I shudder at the thought even though I am surrounded by an abundance of ardent supporters here in North Georgia. I might have nightmares now.
By TN Gelding
November 2, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
And he might still “win.”
Let’s wait until the votes are officially counted.
VA changed to toss up.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this
Interviewing for the 2004 exit polls was the most inaccurate of any in the past five presidential elections as procedural problems compounded by the refusal of large numbers of Republican voters to be surveyed led to inflated estimates of support for John F. Kerry, according to a report released yesterday by the research firms responsible for the flawed surveys.
What excuses will they use this year?
I’ve never talked to a pollster, I see their wormy little numbers on my caller ID and have no problems ignoring them. I think these people are nothing but snake oil salesmen, selling comfort food for the weak minded.
We should not be choosing the leader of our country based on mundane issues such as their color or what other people think of them.
I am an adult, not a sheeple, I do not sit around waiting for some campaign hack on the TV or in the “news” paper to tell me what to think, this is obviously why I am a Conservative.
So you don’t have my opinion for your little poll.
Yet.
And there are lots of us, hahaha.
bwa
By Just_Me
November 2, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
RW
I guess one as perfect as yourself has never made a typo—and have you noticed that once you hit the post button, you CAN’T go back and fix the typo?
Wow..it must be so AWESOME to be PERFECT YOU. Do others genuflect when you walk into a ROOM???
Give it a rest, bub. I made a typo-I know the difference between your (possessive), you’re (contraction, you are),their, there, they’re and of course,
Jerk and arrogant fool. Which, would be someone who worries about a freakin’ typo.
Now, had i been writing on my board, my website, my newsletters, or anything of great importance, i would be concerned with the lack of capital letters, insane punctuation, etc.
it’s a blog; please get a real life….
There’s little you can say to me that would have impact…i’d actually have to respect anything that came from your keyboard for that to happen.
;-)
Disclaimer: Any typos, spelling errors, and plain lack of punctuation is intentional to give RW something to do as he sadly sits and licks his wounds.
By Just_Me
November 2, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
T Unfortunately, there’s been a LOT of that sentiment going around…We were cautioned-very strongly-NOT to talk in specifics about the election.
I dutifully took off my happy little O button before leaving my car; when my older students asked (I teach all grade levels) who I was voting for, I told them that that was private, and that perhaps after the election we could discuss it.
At our school, they went a step further. In other schools, mock elections were held with the real candidates names’. At our school, the 5th graders voted, but they used cartoon names. The kids were really disappointed, esp.when they heard that their older sibs from the HS and MS next door got to vote using the real candidates. It was our administrators’ call-and I respect that-but it was just a wee bit too “pc” for me.
However, I don’t agree with educators saying garbage that the principal of your nephew’s school did-it also shows kids a shallow reason for voting for a candidate.
It would be akin to an admin telling a child that he can’t vote for a black man, because…well, fill in the blank.
As for leading our youth: no thanks needed. I love what I do, and despite the occasional typo or grammatical goof on blogs, I am pretty good at what I do-it’s that old, “love what you do and it comes through thing.” I’m a veteran at the job, but recently began working with the gifted kids-it’s the most fun i’ve had teaching since arriving in GA 12 years ago! Their enthusiasm is wonderful-and I know that I am teaching what will be the leaders some day! I have some really bright, deep thinkers. I am the advisor for several student groups, and it is so great to see budding “community organizers” in my midst!
;-)
gotta go cook-my son surprised us and came home for the weekend. this necessitates a full-on sunday meal before sending him back to school…
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this
By Just_Me November 2, 2008 5:13 PM Andy? I am borderline, i say borderline almost feeling sorry for you.
Now why would you do that?
If by some miracle Obama should pull this off, then the economy will immediately plunge into a depression, “equality” will become reality, the reality being that we will all be in the ghetto. Hopefully, not a Russia owned ghetto.
I figure you libs will get traction from blaming Bushie for about two months or so, with things steadily worsening the whole time, after that, people all over the land will be saying we should have listened to the AJC/DNC Management.
I will be a national economic and political guru.
If he doesn’t win then we get hot Sarah hanging out at the White House.
I win either way.
By RW-(the original)
November 2, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
Just_Me,
I’m not the one parading myself around as the salvation of our children. Now be careful with your blatant personal attacks before Jay B bans you,
HAHAHAHAH That’s funny to even type. You’re a lib, of course you won’t hear a peep from Jay B.
By the way, you should also read Obama’s first book and then come back and tell us the story about how he doesn’t know his Aunt.
And quit blaming me for your future literacy problems.
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Obama: I won’t answer questions until after the election
Remember when the media screeched over Sarah Palin’s lack of press availability after the convention? Neither Obama nor Joe Biden have taken questions from the press in weeks. If Palin’s fortnight of preparation somehow revealed her unreadiness for higher office, what does this say about Barack Obama?
By Midori
November 2, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this
don’t sweat it, T — they are all petty as h*ll:
Michigan Woman Only Gives Candy to McCain Supporters
Associated Press
November 2, 2008
MICHIGAN — A suburban Detroit woman has decided to scare up the vote among neighborhood children by just offering treats to John McCain supporters.
Shirley Nagel of Grosse Pointe Farms, Mich., handed out candy Friday only to those who shared her support for the Republican presidential candidate and his running mate Sarah Palin. Others were turned away empty-handed.
A sign outside Nagel’s house warned: “No handouts for Obama supporters, liars, tricksters or kids of supporters.”
Nagel calls Democrat Barack Obama “scary.” When asked about children who were turned away empty-handed and crying, she said: “Oh well. Everybody has a choice.”
Fax and phone messages left at numbers for Nagel were not returned.
By Just_Me
November 2, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
Chuck Todd has some interesting views…even if McCain wins all of the tossup states, he still loses.
**Brokaw: And Chuck, what about voter turnout and especially the organization of the two campaigns getting their people to the polls?
Todd: Well, we’re seeing a lot of the early voting, a lot of long lines that’s made folks question whether Georgia, South Carolina could end up being much closer than people thought because of this surge among voters, particularly African-Americans. And of course we’ve watched everything that’s been happening in Florida and North Carolina this weekend, Tom.
Brokaw: And why would John McCain be spending so much time in Pennsylvania and New Hampshire in the final weekend, Chuck?
Todd: Well, it’s a simple math problem that he’s got. Heres our columns here. Im going to put all of the current tossup states in McCain’s column and watch his number as it grows right up here. If you move all of these states over, Indiana, North Dakota, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, and Nevada — you see the problem he’s got. He’s still at 252. 18 short. So what does that mean? If he pulls a Pennsylvania over, we see Obama goes done to 265, McCain gets his 273. Then you ask why New Hampshire? Thats the insurance policy. Nevada, a state that Obama right now has that narrow lead in, if that went to him, then McCain would need New Hampshire to get back over his 270. So it is the only path he’s got left. They know this and that’s why they had to figure out how to put Pennsylvania back in play. We don’t know if it really is. We know he’s spending a lot of time there and they had to figure out if New Hampshire, a state that’s been incredibly kind to McCain’s political career in the past, to see if it can resurrect him one more time.**
From the Huffpost, quoting the dialog between Todd and Brokaw this morning…
And as an added bonus:
RW the c/p has a LOT of errors, I didn’t correct them, saved them for you, dearie…don’t mark up your screen too terribly with your read pen..and don’t use a permanent marker-it may not come off…
No one said he didn’t know it was his AUNT. He said he didn’t know his aunt’s status. If they were not close, and it seems as if he isn’t, given he hasn’t heard from her in two years (dunno, i speak to MY aunt at least once a month, and she’s 1,000 miles away), why WOULD he know her status?
Blaming YOU? No silly little man. I blamed the fact that i cannot go back and correct a mistake before posting.
Twist words much? Oopps, but of course you do. We’ve all been witness to it, ‘lo these many months!
;-)
By sweetpea
November 2, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
My feeling is that had McCain chosen Mitt Romney, he would be way ahead right now. I don’t know whose idea it was to pick Ms. Palin, but it was a stupid and fatal mistake for McCain.
By Just_Me
November 2, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
RW oops, error alert… RED pen, not read
have at it, buddy!
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
Sorry folks but it all depends on TURN-OUT. The Obama folks are very motivated and they’re showing up to vote. Blacks are voting for Obama 95%. Hispanics are voting for Obama better than 2 to 1. White women are favoring Obama by a significant margin. The one category that McCain has any advantage is among white males and that margin is small.
Its not looking good for McCain when even Republican pollsters are calling a win for him a “very long shot” or a miracle. Heck, he’s having to campaign in his own home state because Obama’s mounting a strong challenge there.
My 2-cents: Obama will win, between 330 and 380 electoral votes and he’s going to be the new President elect and these folks are going to have to get used to saying PRESIDENT Barack Hussein Obama!!!
Its going to be fun seeing all the right-wing conservative wackos eat crow on Wednesday. I wonder if anyone’s going to show up on these boards?
And guess what? The sun will still shine, business will go in, and someone with intelligence will be cleaning up this Republican mess.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this
Here, let me show you exactly what I am talking about-
A lawyer who specializes in tax cases, Robbins thinks the government is gearing up to prosecute large numbers of Americans for failing to disclose foreign accounts on their tax returns and evading taxes on income generated by the accounts.The legendary secrecy of Swiss banks has come under fresh assault lately from U.S. and European authorities who say their citizens have used the privacy to hide assets and dodge taxes. The developments could put UBS in legal jeopardy and undo the reputation for confidentiality that has helped make a small nation in the Alps a magnet for international deposits.-Washington Post
The liberals at the WaPo know what is going to take place if Oblahma is elected and this^^ is a fright piece meant to scare them away from doing it.
Well, to that I say, thanks for the information, now we know that Sweden is not the place to hide our money from the socialists.
Perhaps gold bars buried in the woods will complicate the IRS’s marauding, who knows?
We’ve got a little time.
But it is going to happen, those that have made it already are going to hide and tell you lovers of other people’s money to go pound sand.
Then who are you going to tax?
Joe the Plumber?
Got soup line?
By Bud Wiser
November 2, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this
Most sane people do not wish for a landslide as a birthday present for themselves …… you can get terribly damaged or worse when it comes to having it roll right over the top of you.
By RW-(the original)
November 2, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this
Just_Me,
Please go find a post from me anytime, anywhere where I’ve pointed out an error in someone’s post when they weren’t either calling somebody stupid in the sentence where they made the error or where they weren’t portraying themselves as the wise teacher of blabber mouthed children.
You won’t be able to find one, but enjoy the search.
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It’s hard to believe that just four years ago, some were talking about Barack Obama as a national savior, a secular redeemer, a “light worker.” Even more shocking, President Obama lost the nomination of his own party to none other than Hillary Clinton. How did we get here?
By getalife
November 2, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this
Luckovich is on CBS News.
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
I guess management thinks its patriotic to cheat on one’s taxes. So Obama wants to roll back the Bush tax cuts? Big deal. So we’re going back to the Clinton Tax Plan. Now what a disaster that was??? He wants to raise taxes on the wealthy? Big deal because McCain proposed the same during the 2000 Republican Primary. He want’s to spread the wealth??? Uhhhh, that’s what a progressive taxation system does.
By Morningstar
November 2, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this
By RW-(the original) November 2, 2008 4:43 PM Morningstar, Ordinarily your story of extended family would be believable, but not in Obama’s case. Some of you supporters really should read his books.
I have read and enjoyed his books. He’s neither a socialist nor a muslim. Most have some (minimal) contact with extended family in our early years; however, as we move on to other states, attend college, start a family etc. etc…… Obama’s father left when he was 2 and he didn’t see him again until he was 10. He knew didley squat about his own father, other than what his Mother and Maternal Grandparents told him, until he (Obama) was an adult.
By Mrs.Godzilla November 2, 2008 5:05 P understand that Obama has a problem picking up his dirty clothes. Do you think Brit Hume will break that news?
Ha Ha. I’ll bet on it. We can all find someone in the family tree that has run off for several years, or they should have, or we wish they had. This Great-Auntie business is a whole bunch to do about nothing, but who is surprised.
By Tom
November 2, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this
Note how neatly “Joe The Plumber” and “Joe Sixpack” fit into and define the Repug mindset. Almost as disgusting as “McCain the War Hero.”
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this
Who knew that, after many in the Obamaphile media declared Clinton dead, she would win Indiana, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Ohio and Texas?
Yes, who knew?
By Midori
November 2, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this
Thanks Bud.
I’ll say a little prayer for you, too.
By "The Corporal"
November 2, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this
To Just_Me
I have seen great division in this country from the Vietnam War protest days (when Americans were being killed in the streets) to the slap in the face (Clinton’s election) of us veterans and what you say is partially true. The country is divided now and Bush did not win the popular vote the first time and no mandate the second time. That is not the issue.
The issue is one of degree and this time the ideological divide is wider than ever ……… thus the most divided nation since the Civil War.
I think the vitriol you throw back at me helps prove the point.
Now to Midori
You obviously have not heeded Jay’s request either to have civil discourse on this blog. Thus, you add to the severity of the divide between citizens of this country.
By RW-(the original)
November 2, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this
Speaking outside her home in Flaherty Way, South Boston, on Tuesday, Ms Onyango, 56, confirmed she was the “Auntie Zeituni” in Mr Obama’s memoir. She declined to answer most other questions about her relationship with the presidential contender until after the November 4 election. “I can’t talk about it, I just pray for him, that’s all,” she said, adding: “After the 4th, I can talk to anyone.”
One wonders how they muzzled her if they didn’t even know where or barely who she was. Maybe it was the illegal campaign contributions they were taking from her.
Hey! That not talking to the press until after the election is Obambi’s plan too. Of course if he gets elected the media already knows what will happen to them if they ask a question he doesn’t like.
By Midori
November 2, 2008 6:37 PM | Link to this
Corporal
be so kind as to key me in to telling someone politely that he keeps posting a bunch of hackneyed, partisan clap trap, and said person finds that hackneyed partisan clap trap boring and ignorant?
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this
NY Times, 2004-
The nation is girding for tomorrow’s presidential election, worried about the integrity of the voting system, divided over the legitimacy of President Bush’s election four years ago and anxious about the future no matter who wins the contest, according to the final New York Times/CBS News Poll of the 2004 campaign.
The poll shows that Mr. Bush and his opponent, Senator John Kerry, remain locked in a statistical tie as they head into the final 48 hours of the race.
Bushie won by 3 points.
By "The Corporal"
November 2, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this
To Midori
It’s very simple.
1) If you feel that way don’t even read my posts and certainly don’t answer them (however, I must be getting to you or you would ignore me and wouldn’t reply so often). If you choose to answer, knock off the vitriol and be civil.
2) Or ……… get Jay to agree with you that my postings are boring and ignorant and unworthy (as compared to yours) of being on his blogs and you will have seen my last one.
Your choice …………..
By Taxpayer
November 2, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this
I see Pew has issued its final pre-election poll and they show Obama winning. Pew also correctly predicted Bush’s win over Kerry.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
Whatever the Democrat campaign may imply, there is nothing suspicious about the story or its timing. The only mystery, perhaps, is how so many people read Mr Obama’s book in the US without wondering what might have happened to the mysterious relative, lost in America.
Uncle Omar has still not been found.-UK Times
Uncle Omar in America?
Shees, how many long lost relatives does this guy have that live in slums and he wants nothing to do with?
Will the same fate befall all of us?
bwa
By Midori
November 2, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this
you post it expecting comments.
my choice is to comment.
By TN Gelding
November 2, 2008 6:59 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 6:45 PM
Did he?
That was within the margin of error. And a whopping 34 electoral votes. He “won” and we lost.
By TN Gelding
November 2, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this
But the president sets the priorities.
By TN Gelding
November 2, 2008 7:13 PM | Link to this
Wealthy, retirement accounts and pension funds have taken a beating.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this
The only people that will be rioting Wednesday morning after Oblahma’s loss will be the liberal media.
I can’t wait.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this
(MARIETTA, OHIO) - Seizing on a newly released audio tape picked up by the Drudge Report, Sarah Palin took the opportunity here in coal country to accuse Barack Obama of “talking about bankrupting the coal industry.”
“He said that, sure, if the industry wants to build coal-fired power plants, then they can go ahead and try, he says, but they can do it only in a way that will bankrupt the coal industry, and he’s comfortable letting that happen,” Palin said. “And you got to listen to the tape.”
“Why is the audiotape just now surfacing?” Palin asked, leading someone in the crowd to shout, “Liberal media!”
Liberal media, liberal, uh, socialist candidate:
“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can,” Obama said. “It’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.”-See B.S.
By making
November 2, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this
It happen before Tuesday…lastest poll… Pew Poll has McCain up 1% OVER Obama. This was a poll of “likely voters” which is the more acurate figure of polls…both CBS and NBC ran the story tonight!
By Big BS'r Obama
November 2, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this
THE OBAMA FILE, for you socialists/Marxists and liberal media types who just may have a doubt about your lying Messiah:
http://www.theobamafile.com/
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this
Management said: Shees, how many long lost relatives does this guy have that live in slums and he wants nothing to do with?
Chris: Gee dude, I knew you’d be disappointed because this shows that Obama isn’t the “socialist” that you right-wing wackos make him out to be. Come to think of it, didn’t he meet them just once in Kenya?
On another note, Cindy McCain has a sister living right here in the US of A and McCain/Cindy won’t acknowledge her let alone won’t lift a finger to help her. What’s that about throwing stones while in a glass house?
By AmVet
November 2, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this
Alas, had the Republicans only conducted as much oversight of their own president as they did of President Clinton.
The fools impeached the wrong one.
Bill Clinton betrayed his wife.
George W. Bush betrayed the nation…
Apparently the latest GOP rallying cry is “Elect Republicans. Or else!”
(Makes you wonder what brainiac comes up with this stuff, doesn’t it?)
I guess they have finally concluded they are going to “relinquish” quite a few more seats in Congress. Best case. Worst is another epic humiliation like the last one.
A new ad shows the desperation: “No checks. No balances — a liberal agenda so scary its effects will be felt for a generation.”
Too bad, it’s all more fear mongering by the professional scaredy cats of the GOP. The nation has survived each of the 34 presidents, from George Washington to George W. Bush, who did business at some point in his tenure when Congress was controlled by his own party.
They have no one but themselves to blame for their present VERY unenviable position…
By Taxpayer
November 2, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this
…Last week, Nunn told of Republican friends who complained of sending money to their college-aged children, only to see the cash end up as contributions to the Obama campaign…
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this
Hey Management: Define “socialist”? If you know that is?
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 7:41 PM | Link to this
Big BS’r Obama said: THE OBAMA FILE, for you socialists/Marxists and liberal media types who just may have a doubt about your lying Messiah: http://www.theobamafile.com/
Chris: Yeah, have you read Rolling Stone’s profile of John McCain? Here’s the link:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print
By making
November 2, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this
Cindy McCain’s sister is probably trash and a free loader like my siblings…out 9 siblings, I’ve disinhereited 5 of mine becuase they’re worthless bums and will never amount to anything…hope they enjoy their long lines in government assistance programs…people need to learn to support themselves and get a life and quite trying to rob the siblings…we owe them nothing!
By Mike
November 2, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this
“Chris: Yeah, have you read Rolling Stone’s profile of John McCain? Here’s the link:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/prin”
Please. That’s like a McCain supporter citing Sean Hannity. Rolling Stone is as partisan as it gets and has no credibility as an objective political source.
By T
November 2, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this
I have said it before, my generation, are tired. We have seen the good, bad, and the ugly.
If I get the chance, when my dad needed surgery and could not afford it.(worked all his life, I am not his child, but he took care of all of us) No one will ever tell him, ” if you divorce your wife.”Again
Daddy is a hard core repub. I understand. Repubs used to have a strong idealology.
If we don’t win this one, Ill cry. Just like last election. Then put on my uniform an do what the comander in chief asks of me.
I never thought that a woman or a mixed man had a chance in hell, to win an election. Thank you, America. I lost faith in you. You never lost faith in me. I will always fight for your freedoms. Always.
Even those whom are younger than me are casting their votes.
4 hour lines. Repubs, Demi’s fell thr change. feel it. The baby boomers are retireing and dying.(sad, yes. Did you raise us right)
HELLO
Moving on UP
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 7:51 PM | Link to this
By making said: Cindy McCain’s sister is probably trash and a free loader like my siblings…out 9 siblings, I’ve disinhereited 5 of mine becuase they’re worthless bums and will never amount to anything…hope they enjoy their long lines in government assistance programs…people need to learn to support themselves and get a life and quite trying to rob the siblings…we owe them nothing!
Chris: So why are you conservatives b*** about Obama not “supporting” his relatives??? Any thoughts on that?
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 7:53 PM | Link to this
Mike said: Please. That’s like a McCain supporter citing Sean Hannity. Rolling Stone is as partisan as it gets and has no credibility as an objective political source.
Chris: But crap like the Obamafile or anti-semites like Corsi’s nonsense is credible based on reliable sources??? Hmmmm, interesting double standard there?
By making
November 2, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this
I can’t wait until McCain is sworn into office and stop people from getting aid when they don’t need it so it will force them to go get a job.
By Soixante huitard
November 2, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this
Hey Management: Define “socialist”?
Chris: You dont know?
it’s anything that disrupts a vision according to Sean Hannity’s paranoid wet dreams of freedom and patriotism. Meaning all serious thought.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this
Chris: He fondly remembers growing up with Auntie:
“He has used these people — his grandmother, his aunt and uncle, and so forth — as props in his political narrative. He wants us to measure him in part by his relationship to these Kenyans, but — and here is the harsh part — only as that relationship is described by him. What if his characterization of that relationship is misleading? What if it turns out that while he is delighted to cite these people as evidence of his humble beginnings — that is what I mean by using them as props — he is not so delighted to consider them as part of his family? Is that not at least a potentially useful insight into the character of this man about whom we know so little?”
By RW-(the original)
November 2, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this
The Democratic nominee last heard from Zeituni Onyango, who attended his swearing-in ceremony to the U.S. Senate in 2005 and is a half-sister of Obama’s late father, two years ago, when she called to say she was in Boston, the campaign said. Campaign officials said they did not assist her in getting a tourist visa and had not known that she was living in America.Politico
Since every Obama story of a relationship starts with just a vague and distant memory of the person and the time line immediately begins to shrink it’s pretty telling that they come out of the box with it only being two years since he talked to this woman you all claim he didn’t even know. He probably dropped off some leftovers last week.
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 8:02 PM | Link to this
By making said: I can’t wait until McCain is sworn into office and stop people from getting aid when they don’t need it so it will force them to go get a job.
Chris: Obama said he’d give money to folks who don’t need it??? When? News to me.
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC Management said: Chris: He fondly remembers growing up with Auntie: “He has used these people — his grandmother, his aunt and uncle, and so forth — as props in his political narrative. He wants us to measure him in part by his relationship to these Kenyans, but — and here is the harsh part — only as that relationship is described by him. What if his characterization of that relationship is misleading? What if it turns out that while he is delighted to cite these people as evidence of his humble beginnings — that is what I mean by using them as props — he is not so delighted to consider them as part of his family? Is that not at least a potentially useful insight into the character of this man about whom we know so little?”
Chris: Dude, your entire rant is one big “WHAT IF”. Where did you cut and paste it from? NOW AGAIN: You like calling Obama a socialist. DEFINE IT!!!
By T
November 2, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this
By making
November 2, 2008 7:47 PM
I understand. Yet, those are not the people that deserve aid. Those are the ones that if the people say it is ok,I will personally BiE$% slap,till my hand is sore. (I personally know those people)
I am talking about the true Americans. The ones that work all day( I don’t care if you make 20-250k a year) The ones that come home and take care of theirs.
Why should a low life scum of the $^&$%$^&&^^ use my tax dollars, when those that try, and will be a productive civilians not benifit?
A new world order! Lefties, Righties you both are f*******^*d.
A new party. I know it is stupid. How do you stop greed.
Buying in the stock market tomorrow, who’s with me. I will always love my fellow American brother and sister, no matter the political line.
T loves you, and looks sexy in these ACU’s.
By Midori
November 2, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this
Chris,
just the other day Andy was laughing about that woman living in the ghetto.
He found it quite funny and satisfying.
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this
Soixante huitard said: SOCIALIST: it’s anything that disrupts a vision according to Sean Hannity’s paranoid wet dreams of freedom and patriotism. Meaning all serious thought.
CHRIS: ROFLMAO. I doubt Management or the other kooks here could describe it better. They’re probably looking for something to cut and paste right now.
By TN Gelding
November 2, 2008 8:10 PM | Link to this
This isn’t Rolling Stone.
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this
Midori said: Just the other day Andy was laughing about that woman living in the ghetto. He found it quite funny and satisfying.
Chris: Yeah, these kooks will slam Obama for not helping his relatives when its convenient. If Obama was helping them or housing them, they would have used that as confirmation that he’s a ………SOCIALIST. That he’s not housing them means he’s a ( ) fill the blank…LMAO
By Soixante huitard
November 2, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this
Noah, you should be banned. Permanently.
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this
Come on Management, Mike, RW, etc. Calling all you kooks out their. You like calling Obama a socialist. Can any of you even DEFINE IT??? Come one, even as a cut and paste, it shouldn’t be that hard to do.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this
By Chris Salzmann Chris: Dude, your entire rant is one big “WHAT IF”. Where did you cut and paste it from? NOW AGAIN: You like calling Obama a socialist. DEFINE IT!!!
Calm down sweetheart, kookman doesn’t like “incivility,” so he says.
By the way, what are you, the designated Oblahma campaign seminar blogger for Sunday evening? Must you answer every post?
Check this out, chicken little, Obama propped his auntie in his loving self biography as proof of what a swell non terrorist he is.
Turns out, he does even know the woman.
What the hell does that tell you?
Duh.
i r o diM: I found it appalling that Oblahma would abandon his family to the slums and destitution of Boston, thanks for asking.
By Soixante huitard
November 2, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this
And isn’t it interesting, Chris, that at this particular moment we have the strange resurgence of this scare word — which is straight out of the McCarthy era playbook — just as a Repubilcan administration is busy quasi-socializing our financial institutions on a scale not seen since the 1930s. It boggles the mind.
If there is any word that should be stripped from the mouths of the crank brigades from Fox news and their local hacks the moment it’s spewed, it’s this stupid old war horse.
Try again, cranks.
By TN Gelding
November 2, 2008 8:27 PM | Link to this
[SD, AR now leaning McCain from solid.](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obamavsmccain/
By Taxpayer
November 2, 2008 8:32 PM | Link to this
I see that poor little child at 8:10 has decided to make an appearance again. He probably thinks that he is being cute. It’s most likely something that his dad “taught” him. Poor thing — meant to go through life like that. Perhaps once Obama is elected he’ll see to it that you have access to good teachers and schools and if you try real hard you just might still have a chance at a good education like many of us already have. You hang in there, OK. Help is on the way.
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this
Management said: Check this out, chicken little, Obama propped his auntie in his loving self biography as proof of what a swell non terrorist he is. Turns out, he does even know the woman. What the hell does that tell you?
Chris: Uhhhhh, I don’t know. You tell me since you seem to know Obama so well. Again, where’s that definition of that thing you like to call Obama; you know, “SOCIALIST”? Avoiding the issue here? Afraid of being painted in the corner? Come on, you’re smarter than that, right?
By Soixante huitard
November 2, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this
And isn’t it interesting, Chris, that at this particular moment we have the strange resurgence of this scare word — which is straight out of the McCarthy era playbook?
Actually, maybe I’m overanalyzing here slightly to suggest a sinister (read: Rovian) campaign of misinformation.
If I’m not mistaken, the word only started to fly around everywhere the moment this Palin started blabbing it to any rabble-rouser-loving/-enabling bunch who’d listen.
Maybe it’s no more complicated than this:
A virtual political illiterate somehow stumbled through the side door onto the stage of American politics and immediately started wreaking havoc, uttering things of which their incoherence was rivaled only by sheer malevolent ignorance.
That’s Palin for you. No sinister plot. Just breathtaking idiocy of truly megalomaniacal proportions.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this
You don’t have to get hysterical, Chrissy, I thought with you being a pinko and all, you wouldn’t have to ask what socialism is.
I gave you too much credit.
Karl Marx posited that socialism would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution which represents the transitional stage between capitalism and communism.
Class struggle, huh.
By "The Corporal"
November 2, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this
To Midori
Then show some civility.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this
This is not socialism:
“Senator Obama said the other day that his primary victory vindicated his faith in America,” Senator McCain said, to loud booing from the audience.
“My friends, my country’s never had to prove anything to me.
“I’ve always had faith in it and the great honor of my life was to have served it,” the former US Navy pilot and prisoner of war said.
There is a huge difference between serving your country and using it.
By Soixante huitard
November 2, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this
By the way, what are you, the designated Oblahma campaign seminar blogger for Sunday evening?
No, didn’t you notice it’s a tag team?
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this
Excuse me, I didn’t finish my thought-
Oblahma has done nothing but use this country for his personal ambition and only had faith in it when it came through for him.
McCain put himself on the line for his country, something Oblahma can never say.
That, my friends, is what loving your country means.
Say it all you want, liberals, when you gonna prove it?
By Soixante huitard
November 2, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this
There is a huge difference between serving your country and using it.
Yeah, just ask the Trotskyists currently using — I mean, running — it.
By ByteMe
November 2, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this
I love John Stewart’s question to Obama: “you’ve had all these names thrown at you — muslim, terrorist, socialist, marxist — if you win, does that mean we really want socialism?”
By RW-(the original)
November 2, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this
Somebody needs to have a talk with this guy. Jay B, I think this is a job for your civility patrol.
BREAKING: KGO / San Francisco libtalker / Obama supporter Karel has been caught on tape calling for the death of Joe The Plumber.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Chrissie,
Did you run your policy of “calling out” a list of “kooks” for no apparent reason by your gracious blog host?
By ByteMe
November 2, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this
McCain put himself on the line for his country,… 40 years ago. And since then? Just one of 100. On that basis alone, you want to see him elected, huh?
Pathetic. Try telling us what policy of McCain’s really turns you on and tell us why you think it’ll be better for this country than any other alternative policy on the same topic.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
November 2, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this
I’ll say it now b***! John McLame doesn’t have a thing on me. I served this nation in the same war he served himself in. he was a lousy student, a lousy pilot but he won’t get the opportunity to be a lousy president. John McDunce is done for! I voted for Obama because John Mc Idiot has been a part of the immoral Republinazi problem for a very long time. The day of the Republinazi is over! Go to hell!
By Midori
November 2, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this
then Corporal
show some intelligence.
The Compassionate Conservative.
The Reformer with Results.
A Uniter, not a Divider.
You people pushed that garbage on the country. Each and every one of those labels/slogans were a lie.
Bush has been the worst disaster that ever befell this country. And he was all wrapped up in slogans.
He used fear and any other tool in his arsenal to divide us. And sheep like you ate it up. You couldn’t get enough.
Yet you want to sound alarm bells about Obama.
After unleashing that monstrosity known as George W. Bush on us, you have the nerve to try to project all of Bush’s failings and shortcomings onto Obama.
What’s wrong? Is it because he speaks in the King’s English, using complete sentences?
Would it help if he peppered a couple of slogans in there? Would that make you stop slandering him?
Get lost.
By "The Corporal"
November 2, 2008 8:59 PM | Link to this
To AJC/DNC Management
I mentioned this the other day but got no response.
I wish I had the power so that whoever was in office (Democrat or Republican) their sons and daughters had to staff the entire military for that four or eight year period. You and I both know who has fought for this country and defended it all of these years especially in times not involving a draft. When a draft was involved it was always the liberals saying not my kids.
By Soixante huitard
November 2, 2008 9:02 PM | Link to this
That, my friends, is what loving your country means.
Loving your country?
Sorry buddy I’m still smelling the reek of Hannity wetdreamdom.
As I stated in a post of earlier today, the US is the only nation in the world which is at least as important as an idea as it is as a physical entity.
I’m not just looking for someone who has shown honor in defending it - honorable as it is - but who also understands the delicate importance of this idea and the role it plays in the world. That’s right: it’s an intellectual criterion that I place equal importance on. Now that’s something the FOX News crowd has no appreciation for.
By Midori
November 2, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this
Let’s face it – none of us really know what kind of president Barack Obama will turn out to be. And it could happen that despite all of our hopes, he could wind up being a total disaster. I mean, it’s not like it hasn’t happened before.
Think about it:
Wouldn’t it be terrifying if President Obama was repeatedly told about imminent threats against the nation, and he simply dismissed them out-of-hand? And what if the US was attacked, and he just sat in a classroom, reading a kids’ book, because he didn’t know what to do?
Wouldn’t it be just awful if President Obama started ignoring the Constitution, and declared himself unaccountable to anyone? And what if he started cranking out “signing statements”, began pardoning people who were instrumental in outing a covert CIA agent, or allowed White House emails to be deleted in complete defiance of the law? Worse yet, what if he started wiretapping American citizens’ phone calls, and started snooping into their internet activities?
By "The Corporal"
November 2, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this
To Midori
Your decision.
You are no longer worthy of responding to in any fashion.
I wish you well.
By "The Corporal"
November 2, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this
To ByteMe
You sir have made a good point.
It may well be that Obama is a socialist and that he will be elected because the majority of the American electorate want socialism.
Democracy is the only form of government that allows for its own destruction and that is truly the sad part.
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this
Management Said: Karl Marx posited that socialism would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution which represents the transitional stage between capitalism and communism.
Chris: So you’re saying that Obama’s advocating “class warfare”. LMAO. Let’s see, Obama wants to raise taxes on the wealthy to the same level as the Clinton years. BTW, a progressive tax system by nature “redistributes wealth”. Just an FYI.
John McCain, during the 2000 Republican Primary, advocated raising taxes on the wealthy above and beyond the level of the Clinton administration. Link here:
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/22/mccain-2000-tax-cuts/
Was McCain also advocating “class warfare”??? Is McCain a “socialist”??? Maybe we should look into that.
Little slogans like “socialist” and “marxist” work well with uneducated McCain crowds but are patently ridiculous in any informed debate. I’m surprised you’re falling for that. But then, I suspect (being hopeful here) you know that.
By Scholar
November 2, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC Management,
No, really. I have never in my life seen an individual who spends so much time posting to a bush-league political column.
What is your obsession with this column? How many hours of your day are spent blogging?
Seriously, man, go and volunteer somewhere. Get out and do something constructive.
Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this
By ByteMe November 2, 2008 8:56 PM McCain put himself on the line for his country,… 40 years ago. And since then? Just one of 100. On that basis alone, you want to see him elected, huh?
I believe McCain has two sons that have served and are serving in Iraq.
That is a sacrifice greater than his own.
He could have sheltered them and they could have refused, same as Sarah Palin’s son.
I don’t need you (fill in the blank) liberals telling me who the real Americans are in this race.
Why don’t you get up with your Kenyan and help him move back home?
Go change that failure, they need it a hell of a lot more than we do.
By ByteMe
November 2, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this
Midori: sad but so true. The blind conservatoids do not see, yet they claim the position of moral superiority without acknowledging their own complicity in the disaster that is our nation at this time.
By Midori
November 2, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this
Lies, Half Truths and Contradictions: Chronicle ”Hidden” Audio on Obama
It’s not true.
But the Drudge Report, the Republican National Committee and apparently even GOP VP candidate Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin fell for completely fabricated news from a shady website called Newsbusters today suggesting the San Francisco Chronicle has ”hidden” audio with Sen. Barack Obama regarding his statements on coal.
”Barack Obama explained his plan to the San Francisco Chronicle this year,” she told a rally in Ohio Sunday. ”He said that sure, if the industry wants to build coal-fired power plants, then they can go ahead and try, he says, but they can do it only in a way that will bankrupt the coal industry.”
She added, ”And you’ve got to listen to the tape.”
”Why is the audiotape just now surfacing?” Palin asked the crowd, according to a report from CBS News. Someone in the crowd shouted, ”Liberal media!’
Let’s be very clear: the Chronicle did not, and has never, hidden any interview, audio or video, of Obama from its readers.
The truth: the paper’s January editorial board session with Obama included comments about coal. The entire interview has been in the public domaine, available on line to the public — and to the McCain campaign — since early January.
”How can anyone suggest that we hid an interview that we did, immediately put up on the web — and advertised to our readers,” said editorial page editor John Diaz Sunday, regarding his hosting of Obama at the session. ”We promoted it like like hell…and I’m sure the Clinton campaign and the McCain campaign scrubbed it. You can still find the whole 48 minutes and 33 seconds on line.”
Obama’s campaign responded to Palin’s comments today, noting correctly that the wide-ranging interview also included the Illinois Senator’s comments that the idea of eliminating coal plants was ”an illusion.”
Apparently neither campaign, until now, ever felt there was much worth mentioning regarding Obama’s coal comments. But it’s now two days before the election and McCain is in a do-or-die battle in Pennsylvania and Ohio.
A final note: the shoddy Newsbusters blog has been caught in the past simply fabricating news regarding the Chronicle’s coverage. Our paper has demanded corrections for their fiction, but to no avail.
We contacted Bill Riggs, regional press secretary of the Republican National Committee tonight on his emailing of this erroneous report suggesting a ”hidden” Chronicle audiotape to political reporters. His response: he didn’t confirm it, or write the headline. He just sent it out.
He got taken. And so did the rest.
By Soixante huitard
November 2, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this
You and I both know who has fought for this country and defended it all of these years especially in times not involving a draft. When a draft was involved it was always the liberals saying not my kids
OK, here’s your response.
You’re hallucinating.
And what you’re hallucinating is a noxious brew of pseudo-patriotism and sheer jibberish.
Sorry to be so harsh but your side (yes, this being a team sport, you have to accept the rules of the game) has been issued a penalty due to a hypocrisy infraction. Twice. First in 2000 and then again in 2004.
You are now not allowed to make this objection because your guy dodged the draft and he became the standard bearer for your side. So no, you don’t get to spew that nonsense now. Try again.
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC Management said: Oblahma has done nothing but use this country for his personal ambition and only had faith in it when it came through for him.
Chris: I guess Obama working for 10-15 years with the poorest and least powerful members of our society advocating for their rights, when he could have been making 100 times more on Wall Street, doesn’t count???
Oops, I forgot, community organizing is like being a “socialist” right?
By getalife
November 2, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this
Final USAToday/Gallup: Obama 53%, McCain 42%
This one will be called early and half of America will be whining.
The better half will be celebrating.
By Midori
November 2, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this
Amvet,
I intend to remind them of that each and every chance I get.
By "The Corporal"
November 2, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
To Soixante huitard
Very easy - in spite of their slogan, one man doesn’t make an army.
Instead, it takes hundreds of thousands of patriotic young men and women willing to place their lives on the line while others are joining the Peace Corps or attending Ivy League Schools.
P.S. Just learning to fly a combat fighter jet is more dangerous than most military occupations even in wartime (except the infantry). Just check the fighter training accident statistics for all services.
By ByteMe
November 2, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
AC/DC: Sounds like in your mind, the only “real Americans” are those who are in the military. Almost a reasonable position… but not quite. As for the rest of your diatribe, save it for someone who cares.
Corporal: You are confusing “democracy” with “capitalism”. Think that through a bit.
By "The Corporal"
November 2, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this
P.S. to Soixante huitard
May I ask which branch you served in?
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC Management said: By ByteMe November 2, 2008 8:56 PM McCain put himself on the line for his country,… 40 years ago. And since then? Just one of 100. On that basis alone, you want to see him elected, huh? I believe McCain has two sons that have served and are serving in Iraq. That is a sacrifice greater than his own. He could have sheltered them and they could have refused, same as Sarah Palin’s son. I don’t need you (fill in the blank) liberals telling me who the real Americans are in this race.
Chris: Joe Biden’s son just went back on his 2nd or 3rd tour. Maybe he can show Sarah Palin’s son the ropes. Bush, who stared this mess and who’s daughters were about the right age, how did they serve? LOL………
Managment: Why don’t you get up with your Kenyan and help him move back home?
Chris: Last I checked Obama was born in the US of A. Oops, I forgot, you’re one of those racists who questions his citizenship, right? Tsk Tsk Tsk. Better start speaking up because its getting hard to hear you through that sheet.
Aren’t you just looking forward to calling him President Barack Hussein Obama? C’mon, admit it. It’s gonna kill you to admit that the majority of Americans are a lot smarter than you.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 9:25 PM | Link to this
By Scholar November 2, 2008 9:12 PM AJC/DNC Management, No, really. I have never in my life seen an individual who spends so much time posting to a bush-league political column.
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By Chris Salzmann November 2, 2008 9:16 PM Chris: I guess Obama working for 10-15 years with the poorest and least powerful members of our society advocating for their rights, when he could have been making 100 times more on Wall Street, doesn’t count???
Boy, you liberals are a trip.
Oblahma used those people same as he used the Senate and longs to use the United States.
I’m from Chicago, Chrissy, and I can assure you that those people Oblahma helped are worse off today than they were when he found them.
What do you think he wants to do with us?
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By Midori November 2, 2008 9:13 PM Lies, Half Truths and Contradictions: Chronicle ”Hidden” Audio on Obama
This is the best the libs can come up with, the article “wasn’t hidden.”
Comfort nonsense for the dullard community.
It’s almost like Oblahma didn’t say he would bankrupt the coal producers.
Almost.
By Chris Salzmann
November 2, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this
Nice sparring with you folks. Time to get the little one ready for school. Another 2 days!!!
By "The Corporal"
November 2, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this
To ByteMe
Time will tell …….. as it always does.
By fedup
November 2, 2008 9:28 PM | Link to this
Just_Me is full of herself I’d say.
By Soixante huitard
November 2, 2008 9:31 PM | Link to this
May I ask which branch you served in?
None. I’m a French leftist, remember?
But seriously, to answer your question: the intellectual branch. Remember what the Soviets called intelligentsia? (That’s me.)
By the way, I notice you didn’t answer my challenge about your Mr. Bush. And as long as that’s still outstanding I’ll consider that confirmation of what I already knew, which is that for you and your fellow travelers (another Soviet-era image) this notiion of serving your country honorably is nothing but a sham which is used to deflect from the one thing you care about: ideological purity.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this
By getalife November 2, 2008 9:18 PM Final USAToday/Gallup: Obama 53%, McCain 42%
See liberals, it’s over already, there is no reason for you to bother voting on Tuesday.
Let’s get the party started!
I’m coming on so you better get the party started
Sleep in late!
By Mr. Snarky
November 2, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this
Jay, I love the irony that the republican dauphin, the golden boy, beloved by the base yet appealing to independents, royally messed up the GOP. He made it impossible for any successor to win. And they’re now in a position where they had 6 years of govt control and it will probably be another 20 years before the people trust them to govern again. I know I wouldn’t trust the incompetent ba$tards to change a lightbulb. It is a sad but true statement that John McCain is the best of their lot.
By TN Gelding
November 2, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 9:25 PM
YOU CAN ASSURE NO ONE ANYTHING.
You can express doubt.
I’ll buy you a ticket home so you can attend the big party in Grant Park.
By Soixante huitard
November 2, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this
Jay, I love the irony that the republican dauphin, the golden boy, beloved by the base yet appealing to independents, royally messed up the GOP. He made it impossible for any successor to win.
So true. I love it.
If Bush was the self-inflicted gunshot to the head of movement conservatism, this guy is the cyanide pill.
By getalife
November 2, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this
Andy,
What kind of political junkie has not voted yet?
By Mr. Snarky
November 2, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this
Sleep in late! — Not a chance, cheesewad! I wouldn’t miss my chance to participate in tossing those sorry bums out on their big fat keisters — even if the odds are against Martin pulling it off. I’d urge you the same, but I know you wouldn’t ever miss one of your every-other-minute comment posting.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this
Horsey: I moved away from Chicago because of people like Oblahma.
Why, pray tell, would I attend his unlikely to ever happen party?
By ByteMe
November 2, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this
Corporal: You are correct about time. I only hope I’m guessing right about my selections, same as you are hoping. I really don’t think it could get much more screwed up, but I could be wrong. If so, like all good relationships that go bad, we’ll all run to something completely opposite next time.
Enjoy the rest of your evening. I’m off to dreamland….
By AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this
al-Gitmo: I’ll tell you all about it on Wednesday.
bwa
By TN Gelding
November 2, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC Management
November 2, 2008 9:44 PM
The party is on, win or lose.
Just thought you might want to visit the old ‘hood.
By Mike In Woodstock
November 2, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this
Ya’ll better brush up on your Arabic! Your all going to need it come January.
Basic Arabic Phrases naäam. Yes.
laa. No.
min faDlik. Please.
shukran. Thank you.
äafwan. You’re welcome.
aläafw. Excuse me.
arjuu almaädhira. I am sorry.
sabaaH alkhayr. Good morning.
masaa’ alkhayr. Good evening.
tuSbiH äalaa khayr. Good night.
By GodHatesTrash
November 2, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this
By GodHatesTrash November 2, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this Unbelievably, Bookman pulled down around a dozen of my posts from Friday night, yesterday, and banned me for the day.
I consistently provide some of the best writing on this blog (not that that’s saying much), instead he prefers the never-ending monotonous garbage, chum, empty threats and swill from the misanthropes and paranoids. He never challenges them, he never ridicules them, he just let’s their vile lies and slanders stand unchallenged.
Well, Bookman, face it, you’re no Ralph McGill. But you’re on track to be another Jim Wooten. Good for you!
So I’ll leave you for your regular clientele for awhile.
I urge other progressive decent people to do the same.
Without us, this blog is just another hate site.
By "The Corporal"
November 2, 2008 10:18 PM | Link to this
To Soixante huitard
You must have missed my 9:20 post so I will state it again.
1) Just learning to fly a combat fighter jet is more dangerous than most military occupations even in wartime (except the infantry). Just check the fighter training accident statistics for all services.
So one could easily say that President Bush was in more danger in doing that than the great majority of the men in Vietnam at the time.
Now if you think I am off base, the Marine Corps is concerned right now that they are losing more men to motorcycle accidents than in Iraq.
http://yuma.usmc.mil/? PgId=desertwarrior,2008,10,30,feature4
When I was in Vietnam (and there are statistics to prove this) you were actually safer there inless you were in the a combat arms unit than you were back in the states driving your muscle car.
2) That said, it would have been better if he had gone into the regular Air Force but he didn’t.
The point is I vote for the policies a president will work for during his/her term. That’s why a President who didn’t serve but who pushers conservative polices will get my vote everytime over even a president who did serve who will push liberal polices.
In other words, Obama could have won the Medal of Honor but he would never get my vote based on his policies. It’s actually quite simple.
3) Since you haven’t served in Iraq or elsewhere, I would be careful about criticizing anyone who learned to pilot a fighter jet.
Now, do you have any other questions.
By Glenn
November 2, 2008 10:36 PM | Link to this
Tom, you got that one correct. With his always-flunking school records and his sordid flying history, trying to picture McCain as a real-life war hero is like picturing Tom Cruise as a real-life fighter pilot.
By Joe the Electrician
November 2, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this
Don’t forget the Rhodes Scholar Sara Palin, 5 skools in yeers to git uh jurnalism degree
By Yada yada
November 2, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this
If someone decides to go into the military, great, good for them, it is a worthy act, but it doesn’t necessarily make them a great american hero to whom we should all show deference and revere their opinion. It may be an act of great personal sacrifice, it may not be. And I personally am tired of people acting holier than thou, as though being in the army makes someone a better person than someone who chooses not to sign up. There are plenty of less than heroic members of the military and lots of people sign up for economic and/or to escape boredom. What I like about these blogs is it’s a contest of ideas, so waving one’s personal history around is more annoying than anything else. In many ways, glorifying military service is one of the problems in the world. If nobody in any country would join an army, we would all be better off. Its hard to have wars without armies. As John Lennon said…
By Papaya
November 2, 2008 11:19 PM | Link to this
I think this recent TV street interview sums up this year’s Presidential election.
Interviewer: Excuse me, Sir.
Obama T-Shirt Wearer: Hey, Yeah, Alright Now!
Interviewer: May we ask you a couple of questions about the Presidential race?
Obama T-Shirt Wearer: Cool.
Interviewer: Okay, then. Which candidate do you support for President?
Obama T-Shirt Wearer: I am for, uh, Barack Obama!
Interviewer: Okay. May we ask what it is about Mr. Obama or his policies that you like?
Obama T-Shirt Wearer: Obama is THE MAN !
Interviewer: Okay. What is about him, specifically? Why is Obama “The Man?”
Obama T-Shirt Wearer: Mmmmmmph! HE JUST IS .
Interviewer: Are you more excited about this election than previous ones?
Obama T-Shirt Wearer: Absolutely!
Interviewer: How long have you been a registered voter, Sir?
Obama T-Shirt Wearer: ……
Interviewer: When did you first become a registered voter? How long ago?
Obama T-Shirt Wearer: Do what, now?
Interviewer: Sir, you have to officially register as a voter at least a month before an election in order to be able to vote. The election is only a matter of days away.
Obama T-Shirt Wearer: ….. [Expletive Deleted] this racist country! Oh, H—- No!
Interviewer: Another thing is that you also cannot be a convicted felon in order to vote.
Obama T-Shirt Wearer: WHAT?!?! Aw, I see how it is. You know what? [Expletive] You! (Walks Away)
Interviewer: Uh… Thank you for your time, Sir.
Obama T-Shirt Wearer: (Still walking away) [Inaudible..]
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By TN Gelding
November 2, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this
“The Corporal”
November 2, 2008 10:18 PM
How could a career government employee consider himself a conservative?”
Don’t you know you’re the problem, not the solution?
“Conservatives” Reagan and Bush have straddled us with $10 trillion in debt.
Would you believe there are people in this world that like to nurture life and create things instead of kill and destroy?
Surely you don’t still think you were defending our liberty in Vietnam?
By Soixante huitard
November 2, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this
Dang, looks like Corporal is the only one who’ll actually respond to what I say.
It’s all I want, to just get these kooks going.
Guess I’ll have to try something else.
Anyway, getting to your response Corporal. (Just learning to fly a combat fighter jet is more dangerous than most military occupations even in wartime (except the infantry).
I’m well aware of that Corporal. My father was a naval pilot just like our Mr. McCain. (BTW, for one of the all-time great Hollywood renderings of this life, see Men of the Fighting Lady (1954) with Van Johnson. Classic.)
My point had nothing to do with actual heroism but rather with the bad faith of those who wish to use it as a cudgel to bludgeon people they disagree with. Prime candidate: Sean Hannity. His pseudo-poetic “Let freedom ring”” nauseates me.
The patriotism of young men (and let’s not forget, women) who willingly take on the dangers of fighting for our country is no small thing. But it cannot be enforced. (Look at the union draft riots during the Civil War.) And ABOVE ALL it cannot be enforced by rabble-rousing blowhards.
By Greg Mendel
November 2, 2008 11:47 PM | Link to this
On November 5, the Republican National Committee will attempt to raise campaign funds for 2012 by auctioning off Sarah Palin’s $150,000 campaign wardrobe, along with Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber.
By Just Curious
November 2, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this
Papaya,
Are you trying to suggest that because one (alleged) person was unable to come up with valid reasons for supporting Obama that ALL Obama supporters lack valid reasons? Surely not…
Now, while I am guessing that you made up this interview from whole cloth, I recently overheard my landlord ranting and raving to a friend of his about how he wasn’t voting for Obama because the man was a Muslim, and not only that, but all his friends were Muslim, and he was going to tear up the Constitution and turn the country over to Muslims.
Now, all those silly “no religious tests for office” Constitutional issues aside, the facts, should you or any of your close friends care about such things, clearly show that Obama is not, in fact, a Muslim.
So…are we supposed to be more horrified by someone voting with his gut (as so many of you right-wing folks keep saying we OUGHT to do…so long as it’s for McCain…)or should we be MORE appalled at someone casting his vote based on verifiably false information?
I know which one I find more reprehensible…how about you, pumpkin?
By ron
November 3, 2008 12:20 AM | Link to this
No more weeks,only today and tomorrow until the polls close.A matter of hours then it will be over.Mercifully.On Wednesday we officially kick off the 2012 campaign.
Headlines report that consumer spending has dried up.I’ve certainly done my part to hasten the drying.I’d do more if I could figure a way.
Canada is a socialist country.High federal income tax.High Provincial income tax.A Provincial sales tax,A federal goods and service tax,and one province has a carbon tax.Sign of things to come.
My world shouldn’t be rocked much by an Obama Presidency,but I’m sure it will be.No one will be safe from the tax man.
During his time in office,George Bush usurped some additional powers for the Presidency that the Dems squawked about.The chances of Obama giving them back is zero.George also extracted some basic freedoms from the people.Obama will add to this list.
Corporal——You err whe you say the libs know who serves their country.They don’t,and they don’t care.As long as it wasn’t them.
By JFW
November 3, 2008 12:22 AM | Link to this
Gladys Kravitz for VP
By Brett
November 3, 2008 1:01 AM | Link to this
Per McCain’s most senior flight instructor at Pensacola NAS: “McCain came in here at 844 out of 890 in his class. No one is even considered for these sought after positions who is in the bottom HALF of his class. He got here strictly because of his Daddy - and stole a spot from someone deserving. Just as he stole a spot at Annapolis from some hard-working A-B student somewhere.”
“He (McCain) was one of the poorest candidates to EVER come our way. Never studied and never volunteered for extra fight instruction. There were guys who enjoyed partying and getting drunk with him on weekends - but none of those same guys ever wanted to fly with or near him. He had a lousy temperament and no natural ability. Staff was not surprised to see him crash 3 planes: Corpus Christ Bay, Atlantic off Virginia/Philly, and another in Italy. He was commonly referred to as “The Punk” and “Ace McCain.” That’s what nepotism gets you in poor quality.” (sic). (See “Naval Archives.”)
By AJC/DNC Management
November 3, 2008 5:24 AM | Link to this
ON THE RUN: News of Obama aunt to be probed-Urinal/DNC
Cool, we’re going to get to the bottom of her illegal status and find out whether Oblahma knew about, yeah, right.
The government is investigating whether any laws were broken in the disclosure that Barack Obama’s aunt was living in the country illegally.
Would that be like scouring someone’s tax records with a government computer?
“I didn’t know!”
By AJC/DNC Management
November 3, 2008 5:31 AM | Link to this
The usual dirty tricks acquire a racist bent, Complaints have surfaced in predominantly African-American neighborhoods of Philadelphia where fliers have circulated warning voters they could be arrested at the polls if they have unpaid parking tickets or if they have criminal convictions.-Urinal/DNC
This is racist?
What, are you saying blacks are too stupid to figure it out?
Who’s the racists here?
In Pennsylvania, e-mails appeared linking Democrat Barack Obama to the Holocaust. “Jewish Americans cannot afford to make the wrong decision on Tuesday, Nov. 4,” said the electronic message. “Many of our ancestors ignored the warning signs in the 1930s and 1940s and made a tragic mistake.”-Urinal/PMS
And?
In Nevada, for example, Latino voters said they had received calls from people describing themselves as Obama volunteers, urging them to cast their ballot over the phone.-Urinal/DNC
No habla Englais, eh, illegal?
By ron
November 3, 2008 5:35 AM | Link to this
Another first.First Peresidential candidate to have a family member living illegally in the U.S.
That said,I will now reveal to the world that I’m cheering for Auntie.The poor lady doesn’t need what’s coming next.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 3, 2008 5:42 AM | Link to this
*Mr. Waxman gives the game away when he claims that the new rule would increase carbon dioxide emission by 74 million tons annually, even though CO2 is not (yet) regulated under clear-air laws. What he really means is that without this rule change the EPA will soon force the decommissioning of a large portion of the U.S. coal-fired power portfolio under New Source Review. *
If Democrats want to legislate such a change, then so be it. But it will be hideously expensive, as electricity prices rise in states like Pennsylvania and Ohio that rely on coal. It also risks blackouts, as the U.S. is already approaching the limits of current electric capacity because the greens have made it nearly impossible to build new plants.-WSJ
Not only will they bankrupt the coal industry they will bankrupt you.
By AJC/DNC Management
November 3, 2008 5:50 AM | Link to this
I’m viscerally angry at the way the shrill and vicious Democrat redistributionists and their puppets in the press have savaged Sarah Palin, a woman about whom they’d be making TV movies-of-the-week if her politics leaned “correctly” to the left.
Kennedy served 14 years in the House and Senate (Barack Obama has yet to serve four) and ran on a pledge to cut taxes — which he actually did! Next to the experience of John F. Kennedy — whose inexperience rendered him a not terribly effective president — Obama is a mere short-pants schoolchild. And no, I don’t think his experience working for and helping funnel millions in foundation money to ACORN counts in Obama’s favor.
I have only one marginally effective way to tell those who have spent the past three months libeling and trashing Sarah Palin — and with her, every “regular American” who owns a gun or goes to church and lives outside their oh-so-correct urban enclaves of Washington, New York, Atlanta and Los Angeles — where to shove it. And that’s to vote against the communist sympathizer who would make legally owned self-defense weapons as rare as whooping cranes, and for a true American hero — to vote a Republican presidential ticket for the first time in my life.-Las Vegas Journal
By Bud Wiser
November 3, 2008 6:17 AM | Link to this
Jay, I think that you have thrown up an effective smoke screen with your threats of banishment for foul play/language. Right now I visualize you as the cop everybody sees by the side of the road with the radar deployed, and then they wonder why he does not give chase even though they were 20 mph over the speed limit……….what they fail to realize is that he is either asleep, over in the woods relieving himself, or just sitting there stuffing his face full of hot Krispy Kreme donuts.
However, one magnificent sidebar has already been achieved; the intellectually and phonetically challenged GodHatesTrash has declared himself outta here! Way to go Jay! Your tolerance of that foul presence has been questionable, but now he has supposedly taken his spew and vomit gutter talk elsewhere. Where ever that place may be, I do not wish him well, and if he Ever returns, it will be too soon.
By Rascal
November 3, 2008 6:51 AM | Link to this
Once again, Cynthia Tucker proves she is the worst form of racist, one hiding in the Democrat Party and wearing dark skin, sniping about anything comes from those dreaded white men of the Republican or Libertarian or libertarian persuasion. How can “journalists” of Tucker and Bookman’s undeniable partisan nature be allowed to oversee a major city’s primary newspaper? The AJC proves once again that it deserves the fate it will soon realize as it slowly goes bankrupt.
By ron
November 3, 2008 6:52 AM | Link to this
Bud Weiser,———-I too applaud Jay’s efforts to stop the trash talk.It gets boring.I wouldn’t tell him that though,it might just swell his head a whole hat size.
By Rascal
November 3, 2008 7:02 AM | Link to this
The saddest part of this whole “Obama might win” thing is that the very group of people, our poorest families and those stuck in the government’s/Democrat’s slavery system, will just dive deeper into that abyss. These people should be pushing for greater capitalist solutions so they can achieve the American Dream. Quit waiting on Government to bring you answers. Look to the only one that can bring you out of the muck you are stuck in, YOURSELF. Obama is just another in a long line of Democrats/Socialist that knows that the true way to power is to buy your loyalty with handouts and enslavement of the people to greater government involvement. Well, if you get what you wish for and Obama wins, I for one will sadly watch as the American culture flies deeper into the “past of point of no return”.
By The messiah is coming
November 3, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this
I’m so looking forward to my new paycheck, via wealth redistribution, that is equal, so as to be fair, with Larry Ellison (owner of Oracle Corp), Oprah, Tiger, Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, … , all the pro athletes, and the best thing is I won’t even have to work for it. I will now be entitled to complete and utter fairness regardless of what I do or don’t do. What a country!!!
By The messiah is coming
November 3, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
messiah, or any rich liberal Oprah, Clinton (either one), Kerry, Kennedy, … you should selloff all your assets and give to the poor and then receive a salary like the average American. That would show that you really believe in wealth redistribution and fairness. But you won’t and don’t.
By "The Corporal"
November 3, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
To TN Gelding
In a larger sense I believe I was fighting for our freedom …. anything to keep the communists at bay …. part of the larger cold war effort.
But in the real sense I was fighting to help another country much as Lafeyette and French troops did for us …. but I don’t expect you to understand or appreciate that.
You had to be there.
By Pat
November 3, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
McCain was the Repub’s best shot at winning this thing. The McCain “maverick” rep from 2000, the war hero, the only one who had a tinker’s chance in hell with independents. But the radical facelift he had to undergo to win the nomination - a process that started about 4 years ago - made him unrecognizable to the part of the voting public that admired him.
Face it, to flip hard right to win the base, and flip backwards again to convince the moderate middle that he was still their guy required gymnastics skills you couldn’t find in an underage Chinese girl.
By TN Gelding
November 3, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
“The Corporal”
November 3, 2008 9:10 AM
I’m sorry, but that’s not the reason we have a strong military.
You mean the commies McCain led the effort to embrace?**
Seems we’ve always got to have a bogeyman.
The French were fighting agaist the hated England more than they were helping us, and it led to their own revolution. (You mean we had help? Gosh!)
I was just pulling your leg a little, but was serious, too.
The perps of 9/11 died along with their victims. We need to bring bin Laden to justice and change course. The Taliban couldn’t have turned him over even if they had been given more time, just like we couldn’t have turned over Eric Robert Rudolph.