Jay Bookman

By getalife

October 26, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

Jay,

Our posters on the right never apologize or admit they are wrong.

Tis a dark place they dwell. One more week until their heads explode and we will see much worse.

They will be the permanent minority forever marganilized as kooks.

By Dagny and John's Love Child

October 26, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

yep, you should ban me - we all know that freedom of speech is for the left only - I just enjoy stirring the poo a bit, and getting your goat - and upsetting your golf game enough to have you make this special post just for me - proves that I was able to do so.

Maybe you should ban anyone who is not an Obama supporter now and avoid the rush later…

Apologize for what, stating that even amidst tragedy there can be a little good news? And, the seven year old would be too young to vote for Obama - unless he gets the term limits over turned - or if Acorn can get to him and sign him up, he might be able to vote at 11….

Don’t worry about the ban, I won’t be back

By "The Corporal"

October 26, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Jay

I think a sincere apology should be in order and if not followed by banishment.

I have long said these blogs are long on personal attacks between bloggers, name calling and vitriolic responses and very short on reasoned debate. I have to watch myself from time to time to keep from being desensitized and drug into it.

A glimmer of hope?

That said the above title forces me now to relate a conversation I had after church this morning.

A friend came up to me and stated he had voted early this week and something interesting happened. I asked what, and he replied that a black lady in front of him kept trying to get the attention of another black lady farther behind him in line. Finally, their eyes met and the first lady silently mouthed the words, “who are you voting for”? The second lady then silently mouthed back “McCain”. The first lady gave her a thumbs up …………

Time will tell …………..

By mike hussein smith

October 26, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Ban him forever. This hatemonger doesn’t deserve to have his ideas heard.

By JAY BOOKMAN

October 26, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

No, you won’t.

By getalife

October 26, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

Told ya.

This upcoming landslide for Obama changes everything and they are scared to death.

By Morningstar

October 26, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

There will be no apology Jay. You may see a few who always try to justify anything, come on here and make comments such as ‘all democrats are baby killers,’ or some other such trash. We see this every day.

No matter that these irrational people know the statistic of who controlled what, when and for how long. No point in going over that again.

I maintain you will see no apology.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 26, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

So when do we get a blog on God’s Trash?

~~~~~

Palin mentioned reports that the Democratic presidential nominee, who is leading in the polls, has already written his inaugural speech. That drew boos from the crowd of more than 5,000 gathered for a rally at the Tampa convention center.

Palin said Obama’s campaign “thinks this whole election thing is just a formality.”

Let’s win one for the Gipper!

By mike hussein smith

October 26, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

And make sure he doesn’t try to weasel his way back by making up a new screen name!!!!

By JFW

October 26, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Apparently, Dagne and John’s love was fleeting.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 26, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Moronstar: When you kill a baby outside of it’s mother’s womb, what, pray tell, would you like us to call it?

By "The Corporal"

October 26, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

To Morningstar

Or President Bush is a baby killer or I was a baby killer in Vietnam ………..

Don’t be so smug ……….

By Mike

October 26, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

The comments are disgusting, but as usual Bookman’s outrage is selective. Liberal hate mongers can say what they want because Jay shares their hate, but don’t be hating on anyone who he doesn’t hate.

Just another example of Bookman’s value system being selective based on the offender’s ideology.

By getalife

October 26, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

Andy,

Collateral damage from bombs?

By Mrs.Godzilla

October 26, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

JAY,

Thanks for scooping out the litter.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 26, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

al-Gitmo: 1.5 million a year?

I don’t think so.

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Thee COA Gold Maduro Churchill, a very tasteful enjoyment at 4 dollars a pop.

Under an Oblahma administration- priceless, literally.

Who would vote for a scumbag like that?

By RW-(the original)

October 26, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Jay B,

As I’ve mentioned before you bring these things on yourself by making special posts up for bigoted comments from the right. On the other hand your abject hypocrisy gets highlighted every time you do since you practically beg for any hateful comments you can get from the left, especially if it’s about Sarah Palin or her kids.

By Mr Snarky

October 26, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Those types of comments are indicative of the basic problem with certain people in our society: they don’t view people different from themselves as human beings. It’s not a white or black or rich or poor thing…its just what happens when someone is systematically abused or taught to abuse. They view others as less than human and become less human themselves. I feel sorry for these people. It’s hard to be snarky about such evil.

By pj

October 26, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

I am more than disgusted. I disagree with just about every Republican leaning blogger but I do not hate any of them nor wish them ill. The idea of free speech and free thinking is ingrained in our culture and our laws and there will always be some who take things to far. I pray for Ms. Hudson’s family as I pray for the young reporter and her family in Arizona. I wish them all God Speed. Politics aside I pray for Nancy Reagan’s quick recovery. We are all Americans and God’s children so the evil thoughts of a few can not be allowed to rip us apart. I don’t understand a person like that nor how they sleep at night in peace. Anyone of us can be a victim of a senseless crime so weep for them, don’t rejoice. I would give up my very precious right to vote to bring any of them back and take away the nightmares their families are living. Somethings are above politics.

By Morningstar

October 26, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

By “The Corporal” October 26, 2008 2:07 PM To Morningstar Or President Bush is a baby killer or I was a baby killer in Vietnam ………

No Corporal, I wouldn’t call you or anyone serving their country in the military a baby killer. When bombs are popping, horrendous damage will occur.

That’s why our defense system (which I believe should be strong and maintained), should be used to DEFEND our country. Those warmongers in charge who misuse their power will, I believe, ‘reap the whirlwind.’

On partial birth abortion, Obama has stated (((on an issue like partial birth abortion, I strongly believe that the state can properly restrict late-term abortions. I have said so repeatedly. All I’ve said is we should have a provision to protect the health of the mother, and bills that came before me didn’t have that))).

I maintain that if the R majority in the supreme court had wanted to overturn Roe vs. Wade anytime since 1973 they could have done so. The Supreme Court legalized abortion in 1973, by a 7-2 vote, and 6 of the 7 justices in the majority were republican.

My point is this: This is constantly used as a political tool. Until the last election when the Dems gained a slight control, the R’s controlled everything. It (Roe) could have been reversed at any time. Heck, it still could!!! Note Supreme Court anyone???

So, let’s give up the nonsense such as letting each state have control (you don’t want that) what Margaret Sanger did in the 1800’s etc. etc. Abortion is a political tool, and the R’s will make no changes. It’s the best political tool, perhaps the only one, they have going for them at present.

Not that it’s anyone’s business but mine, but I’ll state it anyway. Personally, I’m in favor of abortion ONLY in the most dire circumstances such as rape, incest, or the mother’s life is at risk.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 26, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

Fearing a US strike on Iran during President George W. Bush’s last months in office, a senior Iranian official has suggested the Islamic regime should target London to deter such an attack.-JPOST.COM

Notice how they know that Oblahma is no threat to their nuclear program?

Buh bye Israel.

Unless of course, these sickos actually do attack London, then it will be buh bye Iran.

Which would be good riddance.

By The Love was Beaten out of that Child

October 26, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

I think there is a real difference between Dagny’s remarks and remarks of many others (including myself) that have been expressed such as “Bush is a baby killer” or “Obama is a baby killer”, etc. Any thoughts. Anyone except corporal, that is. The only thing he needs more of is CuSO4·5H2O to counter that red vitriol. That or another visit from the black knight. I still love you though, corporal, even if you do choose to waste your one vote on that no good Republican, McCain. Don’t forget that.

By Love Child Loonie

October 26, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

While “Love Child” is a definate loonie, why give him any press. Loose screws like him only beg for attention.

On another subject, is anyone surprised that a group of socialist news folks at AJC are supporting Obama-the Marxist???

By pj

October 26, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Love Child must not be a God-fearing person. I was raised to believe that “God Don’t Like Ugly” and everything bad is paid back in tenfold. Well that was by far the ugliest comment I’ve had the misfortune of reading. Politicians come and go but that comment will live on as a smear on the name of Republican if any of you don’t repudiate that statement.

By SOUTHERN ATL

October 26, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

Enough already! I wonder did he stop to think about what goes around comes around!

KARMA can be a nightmare!!!

I guess that A FEW of the people that blog out here are mentally disturbed. I am hoping that he can get some PSYCHOLOGICAL help!!

I have always heard if you don’t know the right thing to say then silence is the best answer!!!

PEACE

By ByteMe

October 26, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

Jay,

As repulsive as the comment was, I don’t think you ought to ban him just because he’s an idiot.

I think if someone attacks someone else personally and nastily on the blog, the attacker should be banned for a while — sort of like timeout for my one-year-old. But if your opinions are vile but stated civily then you, Jay, should let it go. Or highlight the idiots comments as a blog post and hold it up to the light of day.

Love Child is very similar to an eight-year-old cussing in school. He knows he’s being inappropriate and doing it just to see if he can get a rise out of other people. He’s an idiot and knows he’s an idiot, but it’s the only way he can get anyone to pay attention to him.

Don’t ban him.

By GodHatesTrash

October 26, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

I always thought that Love Child was the product of a homosexual relationship between Lester Maddox and Zell Miller.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 26, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

By Morningstar October 26, 2008 3:08 PM On partial birth abortion, Obama has stated (((on an issue like partial birth abortion, I strongly believe that the state can properly restrict late-term abortions. I have said so repeatedly. All I’ve said is we should have a provision to protect the health of the mother, and bills that came before me didn’t have that))).

Moronstar: The exact logic that came out of Oblahma’s mouth was that the “physician” would be “distracted” by a baby that he failed to kill the first time around, so it’s better to throw said baby in the trash.

I guess I can understand why you and Oblahma would lie and spin, the real you is a sick demented individual.

I maintain that if the R majority in the supreme court had wanted to overturn Roe vs. Wade anytime since 1973 they could have done so.

BS- Right now the court is 5-4 liberal.

By Midori

October 26, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Andy,

is *all * you can do to state your case is make up your childish, immature nicknames?

By David

October 26, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Jay,

I think a ban would be appropriate when anyone crosses a line, inferring that death would be a good thing for anyone — on the right or left.

By Dusty

October 26, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Bookman,

You think we are so “unconscious” that we find acceptable such comments as the one you have chosen to point out? Of course not.It is plainly inhuman and ignorant. But…besides the utter callousness of that comment, it is not far from many others here.

I myself have had my life threatened specifically, a death wish given by a lib. Also cancer. Insults are routine. Although I objected vociferously to a death threat, the comment was never dropped and no one anywhere seemed to notice. (The original comment was made on Wooten’s blog.) As you see, extreme hate has become a habit for some. These SOCIOPATHS DON’T CARE. They are present on both “sides”. Apologies are meaningless.

But be careful how you point out such activity unless you do it for all, not only conservatives but libs also. There’s plenty to point out. You seem to try for some human refinement. But even in that, you are mainly offended by one whose politics are not yours. Broaden your net a bit on the social misfits….

By AJC/DNC Management

October 26, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

The traditional media are playing a very, very dangerous game — with their readers, with the Constitution and with their own fates.

The sheer bias in the print and television coverage of this election campaign is not just bewildering, but appalling. And over the last few months I’ve found myself slowly moving from shaking my head at the obvious one-sided reporting, to actually shouting at the screen of my television and my laptop computer.

But worst of all, for the last couple weeks, I’ve begun — for the first time in my adult life — to be embarrassed to admit what I do for a living. A few days ago, when asked by a new acquaintance what I did for a living, I replied that I was “a writer,” because I couldn’t bring myself to admit to a stranger that I’m a journalist.-ABC News

By AJC/DNC Management

October 26, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

Yes, the media are liberal. Even so, it is obvious that this election is different. The media are open and brazen in their attempts to influence the outcome of this election. I’ve never seen anything like it. Virtually all evidence of Obama’s past influences and radicalism — from Jeremiah Wright to William Ayers — have been raised by non-traditional news sources. The media’s role has been to ignore it as long as possible, then mention it if they must, and finally dismiss it and those who raise it in the first place. It’s as if the media use the Obama campaign’s talking points — its preposterous assertions that Obama didn’t hear Wright from the pulpit railing about black liberation, whites, Jews, etc., that Obama had no idea Ayers was a domestic terrorist despite their close political, social, and working relationship, etc. — to protect Obama from legitimate and routine scrutiny. And because journalists have also become commentators, it is hard to miss their almost uniform admiration for Obama and excitement about an Obama presidency. So in the tank are the media for Obama that for months we’ve read news stories and opinion pieces insisting that if Obama is not elected president it will be due to white racism. And, of course, while experience is crucial in assessing Sarah Palin’s qualifications for vice president, no such standard is applied to Obama’s qualifications for president. (No longer is it acceptable to minimize the work of a community organizer.) Charles Gibson and Katie Couric sought to humiliate Palin. They would never and have never tried such an approach with Obama.-Mark Levin NRO

You know what an Oblahma loss would do to these people?

The very thought is worth a McCain/ Palin vote all on it’s own.

By AmVet

October 26, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

Yesterday morning, I alluded to this abhorent behavior/speech by some very bitter, very angry old men.

This needlessly bitter left vs. right construct and this ongoing hyper-partisan enmity hurts us all.

I admit that I have, at numerous times, contributed to it. And I regret it.

To some extent or another, we all respond poorly, even hatefully, when we feel we are unjustly attacked. And virtually all of us have done some attacking.

And since it is past time that we all come clean, I want to single out someone who has been IMHO the paragon of someone who has improved his conduct and approach. I believe no one here can touch him in this regard.

Andy.

I’ll say it again.

Andy.

He continues to take a lot of unprovoked personal attacks/punishment and I have a long, but fortunately receding, history of taking it from and giving it to him.

Yes, he is also culpable at times, but given that last year IMHO he was one of the meaner SOBs on these blogs, who initiated more than his share of unprovoked personal attacks, I find it encouraging that now he shrugs off an enormous amount of it.

And I think he is to be commended for it.

I also think much of the schtick, mean spirited and dishonorable as some of it is here, is just that. These words, no matter how foul, only have as much, or little, power as we give them.

Bans in my opinion, though sometimes warranted, are a slippery slope and I am not much of a fan of them. But I also think that as a community WE have the right to define and demand some basic civility and what we will not condone.

To me, the very best part of these “discussions” are the chance to learn, be inspired by or research some new knowledge.

I also believe the vast percentage of us have relatively normal, contented and successful lives. And that everyone here has our strengths and make our contributions, because we care deeply, for our communities, our country and the rule of law.

The person in question, made his own choice this morning. I believe it was the wrong one. The American people are very forgiving of each other.

And a little contrition goes a long way…

We can and must do better.

By Taxpayer

October 26, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Well, Jay, this is quite the quandary. Clearly, none of us like what Dagny said. I mean, what was there to like about it unless you proudly sport a pointy white hood or something similar. You called him out on the carpet and gave him an ultimatum — apologize or be banned. He came forth and, in his own way, explained himself. He might even consider it an adequate substitute for an outright apology and I must admit that I have heard worse apologies and maybe even words from others that were just as offensive. Who knows, some may have even been offended by one or two of my own kind and considerate comments. So, Jay, I have to give Dagny credit for at least replying to your challenge in a civil tone and, at the same time, I have to believe that his words should not go unpunished. I think most of us have jumped him and let him know that we did not like what he said and that should serve as at least partial punishment — if he has any feelings at all, that is, and I think he does. So, maybe outright banishment is excessive unless Dagny is or has been a repeat offender who refuses to change his ways. Just saying….

By BDAtlanta

October 26, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

There’s a cold place in hell reserved for people that sick.

By Chris Salzmann

October 26, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

My answer is NO. This blog is about free speech, no matter how hateful or disrespectful.

Let this blogger continue to spew his/her hate. The freedom to do that is what make this country what it is. I certainly don’t agree with his/her comments, but I certainly defend his/her right to post them.

My two cents.

By "The Corporal"

October 26, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

To Morningstar

I don’t know whether you have ever called Bush a baby killer or not and I know you know nothing of my background to call me anything. My point was liberals use the same vitriolic language on these blogs as conservatives (I personally think more) so don’t be so smug. You seemed to just single out conservatives.

Now that said, war is a terrible thing and civilians (babies) are sometimes killed in spite of best efforts NOT to target them specifically. That’s a far cry from SPECIFICALLY targeting unborn children in an abortion clinic.

By "The Corporal"

October 26, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

*To TN Gelding continued *

Per TN Gelding:

1) “War is immoral.”

2) “If left to the Pentagon U.S. troops would still be dying in Vietnam.”

I beg to disagree:

1) “It is immoral to not fight evil.”

Luke 22:36 “He (Jesus) said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”

2) “If left to the Pentagon (instead of the politicians) we would have dispatched North Vietnam as we did the Nazi’s, South Vietnam would still be a free nation, and the 1st Air Cavalary Division would be sitting on the DMZ there as the 2nd Infantry Division sits on the Korean DMZ.”

3) When civilized man can no longer stand the horror of war and refuses to fight, then he will surely be killed or enslaved by the uncivilized who can.

AUTHOR UNKNOWN

By NITA

October 26, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

THAT COMMENT REFERRING TO THE HUDSON FAMILY TRAJEDY IS BEYOND DISGUSTING AND DISPLAYS THE IGNORANCE THAT PLAGUES THIS COUNTRY. HOW DARE SOMEONE OF SUCH WEAK MIND AND SPIRIT VOICE THOSE KIND OF COMMENTS ABOUT A FAMILY WHO HAS BEEN VICTIMIZED. PERSONALLY MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE HUDSON FAMILY AND I PRAY FOR THE SAFE RETURN OF HER NEPHEW. AS FAR AS THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE GOES, WE ARE A PEOPLE OF CHANGE AND THROUGH ROUGH TIMES WE MAINTAIN POISE AND THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND WE WILL HAVE THE VICTORY. GOING BACK TO THE LESS THAN HUMAN PERSON THAT MADE THAT COMMENT, JUST CLOSE YOUR EYES IN PUT YOURSELF IN HER SHOES AND IMAGINE YOUR LOVED ONES TAKEN AWAY FROM YOUR LIFE FOREVER AND IMAGINE HOW IT WOULD FEEL. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED WHEN YOU ALLOW GARBAGE TO SPILL FROM YOUR MOUTH!!!!

By AJC/DNC Management

October 26, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

We’ve had two 23-year-old males here tossing Molotov cocktails to burn down Gene Scrutton’s John McCain sign in the Sellwood neighborhood.

In Minnesota, graffiti messages (“u r a criminal resign or else”) were spray-painted on the garage of U.S. Sen. Norm Coleman’s St. Paul home.

A 23-year-old Michigan man, a Democrat, has admitted to plotting to detonate a homemade bomb in the tunnels near the Republican convention.

In the Washington, D.C., suburbs, a motel with a McCain sign on its lawn received threatening calls and a McCain-signed pumpkin patch was vandalized.

In central Florida, the Republican headquarters manager told police he believed that his home with two McCain signs was shot up because of his support for McCain.

It doesn’t involve physical violence, threatened or real, but “The Daily Show” host Jon Stewart’s “[expletive] you” to Sarah Palin in a recent comedy (?) act suggests how far we’ve gone in the age of the unhinged.

I joked at first about some of it. When a reader sent me my column covered with dried feces, I looked on the bright side. He could have said he wouldn’t …. on my column. I took comfort in the fact law officers visited the Iraq War foe (a peace advocate!) and the liberal critic (a Portland public school teacher!) who threatened my family. But the constant expletive-laced rants, the nifty Nazi-Hitler-German references, the holier-than-thou hate for any opposing view from the half-informed — well, it’s not what our public discourse should be about. It wasn’t in a better age. If I sometimes responded in kind (and I did), forgive me.

The radicals are at the gate, America.

By G

October 26, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

Such a hate-filled person, and there’s no telling how many more are out there.

Obama/Biden ‘08

By tina thompson

October 26, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

i just have one question for love child.

what does obama have to do with the fact that this family has lost two members and possibly a third? are you that heartless and bored with your pathetic excuse for a life that you have to stomp on someone while they are already down in the dirt?

lemme put it another way….. lets say that it was YOUR mother and YOUR brother who had been killed possibly by YOUR ex. lets say it was YOUR child who was snatched away from you and you had no idea if he was forced to watch the killings or if he was even still alive.

if someone had started making stupid and heartless comments about those tragedies, would you simply sit there? or would you want something to be done about it?

personally, i think your genitalia should be removed and shoved inside out down your throat along with a very slow acting poison. i think you should die from a thousand paper cuts after being dipped in lemon juice.

but that’s just my opinion and that’s nothing compared to what i came up with during the Lorena Bobbitt issue. of course, i thought she was in the right there so maybe i am the one who is skewed .

however, what you have done by intentionally causing this hurt to this family, is something that you and God will sort out. that is of course, IF you make to God. you may have to deal with the devil. though i imagine it would be hard to talk while burning in a never ending pit of brimstone. have a good night.

By mike hussein smith

October 26, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

Gosh, taxpayer, I just don’t see why you’d consider dagny’s last post civil. It was defiant and demented, just like the ugliness that spawned his departure.

Management, go back to your alleged ABC News source and look for the line that says the person who wrote than bunk does not in anyway represent ABC.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 26, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this

moron hussein smith: Yeah, I wonder why ABC “News” would denounce one of their own employees like that.

By Qui923

October 26, 2008 8:09 PM | Link to this

This is my first visit here, I was just googling “Julian King news” and i was directed here. I must say that I am completely and utterly dumbfounded that this election has brought people to such lows. We are talking about a 7 year old boy who just lost his grandmother and uncle, who very well may have witnessed this tragedy, and all this “Love Child” has to say is two less Obama supporters? If I was undecided before, I am not any longer. I would never side with anyone who has supporters who make light of such a horrible and horrific situation.

Nov. 4th vote Obama!

By D Bone

October 26, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this

This Message is for the Person that said that this ment two less voters, well anyway you are probaly a convicted felon and cannot vote and wish the same for anyone that can vote no matter what color the skin maybe, Stupidity comes in all colors, shapes, sizes, and now that is all you know to say but it is ok because what agoes around comes around and your day is coming .

By alv

October 26, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this

love child or whoever he is probably will vote for obama but to afraid to let any1 know cause his friends might be made @ him,hell half of the ppl say that are voting for McCain will vote for obama and they don’t want there friends to know.the McCain voters should realizes that the economy is messed up and so are they.you say you will vote McCain and will get behind them booths and vote obama. goes to show hope stupid they are.

By Amelia

October 26, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

Freedom of speech means you will not be arrested for whatever you say. It does not mean anyone is responsible to give you a platform to say whatever you want to say. This is Jay’s blog. He is not required to give you a platform. The media is not required to give you a platform. Schools are not required to give you a platform. No one in the government or private sector is required to give you a platform. There are people on the corner downtown on any given day expressing themselves to their heart’s content. Why don’t you get a corner downtown and spew your evil and hateful thoughts.

While I’m at it, Wal-Mart is not required to promote your religion. If your religion cannot stand on its own philosophy then it’s pathetic. I’m sick and tired of people trying to use the freedom of speech and religion to dictate how other people live their lives and run their businesses!

By TN Gelding

October 26, 2008 11:14 PM | Link to this

The Corporal”

October 26, 2008 5:06 PM

They didn’t want to draw the USSR into the conflict.

Something Bush didn’t have to worry about in Iraq.

It wasn’t your fight either. Things worked out pretty well after Nixon abandoned his secret plan and accepted a deal he could have gotten years earlier. That’s not to exonerate LBJ. He went to an early grave for his sins.

I guess you really were thrilled when McCain led efforts to resume normal relations with your enemy.

By hhh

October 27, 2008 1:43 AM | Link to this

this entire page is sickening. a little boy is missing in the hands of some sick murderers, a family that believed in god and contributed to their community is torn apart as their mother and brother lie dead… and you people have the gall to conflate that with politics??? its just sick.

seriously. think about it for just a minute.

By Just_Me

October 27, 2008 6:31 AM | Link to this

Please ban that vile creature.

I’ve heard so much of this disgusting racially-based crap, it’s really hard to read blogs, online papers, etc.

I am sticking to fiction these days.

Good ol’ Dagny’s has made vile comments before.

Somehow I think that Ayn Rand would be appalled that that creature is using her characters to identify itself.

By Just_Me

October 27, 2008 6:37 AM | Link to this

I am amazed at some of the folks here who are somehow either blaming Jay for the nasty, vile comments, or somehow defending this piece of feces, by saying that other “liberal’ bloggers have done the same (or nearly the same).

I don’t recall ANYONE EVER celebrating the death of anyone on this blog. That goes beyond calling anyone a “babykiller.”

If you can’t make the distinction, maybe someone should take your computing privileges way.

AJC? Get some help. I’ve never seen so much hatred an anger coming from one person. Stop defending the crap by positng t!t-for-tat cut and pastes you are so infamous for.

What that fool said was INDEFENSIBLE. He does have the right to say it, but Jay also has the right not to allow HIS blog to be polluted by it.

By Joel

October 27, 2008 6:47 AM | Link to this

Excuse me, have you even been looking at some of the garbage that has been throw at Republicans? Sarah Palin in particular. Don’t moan about how awful some of the comments directed at Democrats. Eights years of attacks on Bush to Republicans in general. Don’t even attempt it. The left and it’s henchman have been doing this since Al lost the election.

By Bud Wiser

October 27, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this

When I went to school we were taught about a constitutional right to free speech. Other than the shouting “fire” in a movie theater, everyone pretty much has accepted the rights as such, within the defined parameters.

These rights have allowed other perversions to be committed in the public venue, such as the burning of the American flag. When compared to that, Dagny’s repugnant comments pale in comparison, and relevance. No need to hold him up to public ridicule either, because he has already done that quite nicely.

Banning the ‘Love Child’ smacks of oppressive of expression. It is the first step what may be next, such as selective banning, maybe because you don’t like the ideology, or just don’t like the person’s moniker. Or, if you are Obama/Biden, it becomes no longer allowing certain Orlando, Fla., TV personalities to ask “impertinent” questions of your boys on live television.

I smell a trend from the left, and that trend is more foul than anything some idiot posts on a blog.

Obama/Biden ‘08 - making it easy to be stupid, and oppressive

By Pat

October 27, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

An apology is not necessary from “Dagny and John’s Love Child” because it would not be sincere. Frankly, anyone who can express such ignorance that is truly how they are. Keep in mind you truly reap what you sow and you reap from the same seed that you sow. If you can find pleasure in someone dying I pity you. I would be really careful of how you treat people in this world it comes back to play. You may not feel it now but you will.

By valeria

October 27, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

you are a complete a*****, you should not be allowed to write at all!!!

By valeria

October 27, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

you are a complete a*****, you should not be allowed to write at all!!!

By MsFeasance

October 27, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

Jeebus, what a way to miss the point.

The First Amendment does not give trolls the right to stir poo on privately owned threads on a privately owned blog. The Atlanta Journal Constitution is not required to give a public forum to hatemongers.

If the United States Secret Service were to ban him from this site, you might have a point, however odious and tinged by hate-speech it may be.

By RED

October 27, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

This girl just lost her mother,her family, and all you people can think about is the next President! This shows how we as people have really become evil! No matter who we vote for or what color we are we should always respect and care for each other. But it seems that we don’t have that in our hearts anymore. Race has came back into play and its turned our world into HATE! I will pray for her and her family and for you so call CHRISTIANS!

By StickyKeys

October 27, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

I don’t think an apology should be issued, the man has the right to say what he wants no matter how blindingly stupid, nearsighted, insensitive and absolutely insane it it. However, I do think that we should be able to excersize the same free speech rights to call him an evil, blindingly stupid, nearsighted, insensitive, and totally insane jerk.

By Theresa

October 27, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

You are an insane jerk! There is no reason that the death of a child is a good thing, especially not because he would have grown up to vote for Obama. The thing that I dont understand about ignorant McCain supporters is how they are suppose to be the ‘conservatives. the christians” No Christian person would ever think such a thing much less write it online. I was going to vote republican until I saw how truly hypocritical it would be, because the republicans and racist people out there are proving that they are moving the country into the wrong direction….GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!

By becca

October 27, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

As a McCain voter, I say ban this guy forever. Every time I think about this Hudson situation I cry. It’s to horific to even think about.. The idea that someone would say such thing is horrible.

By Ha

October 27, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

Jennifer Hudson’s Brother and Mother actually voted early. So although they are no longer with us, their vote still counts. For that I’m glad and grateful for early voting!!!!!! sorry to dissappoint you, but they already voted for OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!! ahahahahahahahahahahaha

By The Letter A

October 27, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

An argument could be made for the right to freedom of speech, Love Child, but your remark is in egregiously bad taste.

Spirited debate of relevant issues should be welcomed in society, but making ugly, tasteless “jokes” should not be encouraged.

BAN!

By Jay Loves Obama

October 27, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this

Jay do you know who Bob Dobbs is? I think you might like him.

If those were white people would you say 2 less voters for Mc cain?

If those were your family members that were slain? Then what?

Shame and sick are you! Boo hoo your mommy hit you too….

I bet you wouldnt survive 1 week in a correctional facility, dont drop the soap baby.

By ERVIN

October 27, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

lets what we would be like if Msame is in office until 2012 family values would momthat hid her unplanned pregnancy and teenager unwed pregnant with boy that dont want kids husbandwho has a dui and loves country so much he joined a secessionest party looks good too u

By Jacky Tar

October 27, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this

@ Dagny and John’s Love Child: Guess what, it’s not all about you. While you digest that distressing fact, consider learning what the First Amendment actually means. It means the government cannot prevent you from expressing yourself; it says nothing about blogs hosted by newspapers. You want a forum to spew your vomit, feel free to get an account on Live Journal, Blogspot or any of several others. Or, if you have the coin, set up your own ISP and feel free to ban all the liberals, if that’s what makes you happy.

In the meantime, do shut up until you grow some intelligence.

@ everyone else: Damn - yet another person who failed out of basic civics. How the hell do they graduate from school?

By Sen. Joe "Gaffeman" Biden

October 27, 2008 11:31 PM | Link to this

Dead people vote in Chicago all the time. I call it a wash.

By OhioLiberal

October 28, 2008 4:21 AM | Link to this

To try and celebrate a heinous crime? For any Political angle? If this was truly done, then that fool will find his or her fate. If this was a plant like ‘Joe the Plumber’ for political gain, you had better stop. We the people will vote, or stay at home and wished we had voted, but after Nov. the 4th, Jennifer Hudson’s family is still dead. Never sacrifice the permanent for the immediate. If Jennifer Hudson’s people set up a scholarship or something that people could give towards, so we could express our loss that would be awesome.

By VotingUSExPat

October 28, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

As much as I am all for free speech, there is something called decency, which I have found sorely lacking in McCain/Palin/GOP supporters, encouraged by Palin with her ‘pallin’ around with terrorists’ and other incendiary comments. Here is a prime example of such.

The even sadder thing is the miscreant who said the above is proud of his statement.

By Copyleft

October 28, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

Jay: You shouldn’t be surprised. Conservatives in Tennessee have put such thoughts into action on more than one occasion—the “Tennessee Tuxedo” assassins most recently, and GOP political activst and church-shooter Jim Adkisson earlier this year.

Be glad the right-wing losers here are restricted to idiotic WORDS rather than actions.