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Reed and the GOP

By Mike Luckovich | Monday, February 6, 2006, 07:20 PM

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By getalife

February 6, 2006 07:25 PM | Link to this

I guess you did hear about Reed. Good one Mike.

By Brian Curtis

February 6, 2006 07:26 PM | Link to this

Good work, Mike. Reed shouldn’t escape the shame of his criminal behavior either.

By Brian Curtis

February 6, 2006 07:39 PM | Link to this

Don’t forget, folks; the Abramoff scandal isn’t just at the national level. We’ve got our own corrupt little zealot right here in Georgia too. $4 million from Abramoff, capping an illustrious career of dirty campaigning, subverting the Constitution, and association with the inhumanly evil Christian Coalition.

The man never had any respect for democracy, and surely doesn’t respect the intelligence of Georgia voters. Bring this corrupt slimeball down!

By getalife

February 6, 2006 07:50 PM | Link to this

Right hand of God?

By Dirk

February 6, 2006 07:52 PM | Link to this

I like the cartoons that show bombs in the Islamo Terrorists hats, why don’t you try one of those, I hear it’s a big hit in the Middle East.

By George

February 6, 2006 07:55 PM | Link to this

Oh no, leave him in the race.

I think Reed represents the Republican party well.

By getalife

February 6, 2006 07:55 PM | Link to this

Is Reed in there?

By Andy

February 6, 2006 08:15 PM | Link to this

These moonbats have been in here all day ranting and raving about Bush’s evil plan for this and Bush’s “treasonousâ€? conspiracy for that. They’ve told us that Bush is going to repeal the Constitution and do away with the right’s of the American citizens. And as far as I can tell, him and Cheney will get their jolly’s off while they’re doing it.

The one easy to answer, all encompassing question that I have in response to all this madness: When is he going to start doing all of these terrible things? Where are these vast, massive prison complexes where all of the pinkos are locked up at? Can any of you crackpots name one person that has been caught up in this roll back of human rights? Just one?

By Semper Fi

February 6, 2006 08:35 PM | Link to this

Where did all the moonbats liberals go??? Is there a talking points meeting?? I know, you’re watching Bill O’Reilly.

By Liberal Texas Democrat

February 6, 2006 08:37 PM | Link to this

Christian Coalition, ‘cause you know Jesus was nothing more than a politician who couldn’t afford to run for office.

By getalife

February 6, 2006 08:41 PM | Link to this

I just saw this ad on CNN.

By Dusty

February 6, 2006 08:41 PM | Link to this

Well, I enjoyed a good dinner. Came back. Read the previous blog. And SURPRISE, I have turned into a TERRORIST. Must have been something I ate. Oh but wait This comes from Brian and Kimberly, the Moonbat twins. Sooooo no worry. With those two calling me names, I must be doing something right.

Now, on to more moonbatism. Luckovich!

By RW-(the original)

February 6, 2006 08:56 PM | Link to this

Semper Fi,

They must be getting the new attack lines. Helen Thomas finished the Nixon trifeccta today.

By Semper Fi

February 6, 2006 09:13 PM | Link to this

RW, I am sure when they finish it up, Getalife will be sure to point us to the link. He’s a democrat in denial, but a nice.

By Objective Observer

February 6, 2006 09:18 PM | Link to this

Got up, thought I’d catch up. Saw Getalife’s link I’m gone. Thanks Getalife.

By getalife

February 6, 2006 09:20 PM | Link to this

How come y’all do not want to talk about Ralph Reed? Is he a hypocrite? Are y’all part of his coc coalition?

By getalife

February 6, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this

Semper Fi,

I am not a Dem.

By Semper Fi

February 6, 2006 09:40 PM | Link to this

Getalife, and Hollyweird is not liberal..

By hterrya

February 6, 2006 10:04 PM | Link to this

Semper Fi, what’s all this psychopathic hatred of those you label “liberal” (as if you knew what the word actually means)?

That’s all you do is hate, hate, hate!

I know Jesus is proud of you. (Ralph Reed told me so!) {:-)

By Semper Fi

February 6, 2006 10:15 PM | Link to this

hterrya, you sooooo funnnny…

By hterrya

February 6, 2006 10:30 PM | Link to this

Semper Fi, you sooooo psychopathic (sorry psychopathic is not a one syllable word - hope you can understand it!)

psy·cho·path·ic (sº�k…-p²th“¹k) adj. 1. Of, relating to, or characterized by psychopathy. 2. this text will be boldedRelating to or affected with an antisocial personality disorder that is usually characterized by aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior.

By WillT

February 6, 2006 10:39 PM | Link to this

People:

We are not a fearful nation. We are Americans! Despite the current administration’s playing the 9/11 card at almost every turn, we are not afraid!

What we want is a message that says: “We have nothing to fear but fear itself” rather than this continual harping on 9/11.

Doggonitatall, stand up and say “we are not afraid of al Qaeda, and we’re going to burn their butts just as soon as the fools in the White House find them.”

By hterrya

February 6, 2006 10:45 PM | Link to this

Whoops! I’m technology-impaired but unlike Semper Fi, I’m not psychopathic (Ralph Reed told me so!). However I am funnnny (Semper Fi told me so!) {:-)

By finch

February 6, 2006 10:53 PM | Link to this

Right now, for tonight only, I’m afraid of Ralph Reed! He’s got some real continuity problems….

By finch

February 6, 2006 11:07 PM | Link to this

RW! getalife!!

Both your blogs are down! I feel…. lost!

By RW-(the original)

February 6, 2006 11:14 PM | Link to this

finch,

It’s scheduled maintenance to fix all the stuff that happened over the weekend. They were supposed to be up at 11:00. In fact I just checked and mine is back up.

By Mike

February 6, 2006 11:45 PM | Link to this

The issue isn’t the collection method.

Anyone with a brain knew the US was intercepting electronic communications, before and after 9/11. That included our enemies.

The issue isn’t the effectiveness of the methods.

The methods are not effective. By public admission, more than 5000 people have been spied upon. Less than 10 people have been identified as due further investigation.

There has not been one arrest, trial, and conviction.

Those supporters of the program have only smoke and mirrors distractions when confronted by legal issues as well as substantiated results.

The issues are in the Constitutional proportionment of power among three separate branches and the inability of any branch of government to set aside the Bill of Rights.

The executive branch can set aside our rights but only when in conjunction with the judicial branch. And, that must happen before setting aside our rights. Our rights precede creation of this government or any other government.

If we had no rights, we would not have a government or recourse our day in court.

It is an error to think this government or any government provides our rights.

Governments, it is said, are established among men, not upon them.

By WashingtonState

February 7, 2006 02:57 AM | Link to this

Quotes for 02/06/06

“It’s Bush’s defenders who are embracing the most liberal and utopian view of human nature with their ‘trust me’ argument, a view that would cause the Founding Fathers to weep,” Fein said. “The real conservatives are the ones who treasure the original understanding of the Constitution, and clearly this is inconsistent with the separation of powers.”

Bruce Fein, Former Justice Dept. Official under Reagan

Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, said that if investigators need more time to fill out the warrant application, Congress should change the law to extend the deadline. But, he said, court orders ought to remain part of the process to ensure that government surveillance power is never used against the political enemies of whomever is in power.

"Some liberals think of gun owners as terrorists," he said.

Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America

and finally:

“My criteria for judging this stuff is what would a President Hillary do with these same powers,” said Paul M. Weyrich, the influential writer and leader of the Free Congress Foundation, a think tank. “And if I’m troubled by what she would do, then I have to be troubled by what Bush could do, even though I have more trust in Bush than I do in Hillary.”

By Andy

February 7, 2006 04:36 AM | Link to this

Is this a challenge to cartoon boy or is it jihad?:

IRAN’S largest selling newspaper announced today it was holding a contest on cartoons of the Holocaust in response to the publishing in European papers of caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed.

By Andy

February 7, 2006 04:40 AM | Link to this

This is what passes for damning evidence that survellience is harming Americans:

The methods are not effective. By public admission, more than 5000 people have been spied upon. Less than 10 people have been identified as due further investigation.

There has not been one arrest, trial, and conviction.

By Mike

February 6, 2006 11:45 PM | Link to this

P.S. You don’t arrest Al Qaeda, simpleton, you kill them. We may never know how many this program has exposed.

Aren’t these libs just so brilliant?

By Andy

February 7, 2006 05:02 AM | Link to this

In another sign of the growing rift between Iraqi insurgents and al Qaeda, over the weekend an influential Sunni sheik in Anbar province condemned the foreign terrorists in his midst and blamed them for the deaths of civilians.

“We realized that these foreign terrorists were hiding behind the veil of the noble Iraqi resistance,” Sheik Osama al-Jadaan, head of the Karabila tribe in western Iraq,” told the Christian Science Monitor. “They claim to be striking at the U.S. occupation, but the reality is they are killing innocent Iraqis in the markets, in mosques, in churches, and in our schools.”

By Frank Sarrantonio

February 7, 2006 05:29 AM | Link to this

I did not have a preference regarding XL Superbowl. I was watching because I enjoy football. However, after watching the game I have one thing to say: SuperBowl XL MVP = Referees

By Liberal Texas Democrat

February 7, 2006 05:56 AM | Link to this

willT posted: “Doggonitatall, stand up and say “we are not afraid of al Qaeda, and we’re going to burn their butts just as soon as the fools in the White House find them.â€?

Exccept that when that happens the “state of war” that currently exists primarily as a device to frighten the populace and dismantle the constitution will disappear. Ergo the fools in the Whilte House have no real motivation to find,and or capture any of the enemies that serve them so well. Kind of like negotiating with the Iranians to hold the hostages until after the election of Reagan. Ssame crowd, same playbook.

By Dollar Bill

February 7, 2006 06:24 AM | Link to this

So Goldman Sachs says GW’s budget is unrealistic. Well duh.

By physicsdawg

February 7, 2006 07:24 AM | Link to this

I hope Andy is right about IRAN’s contest for Cartoons about the Holocaust. I hope (If any of the radical muslims know how to use a pen for anything but faking passports) they come up with the most despicable images seen lately. Then the “West” can show them how to have outrage, without calling for Beheadings, Bombings, etc.
But then, if we don’t riot and destroy, they’ll probably just say our religions are weak…

By Lewis Marks

February 7, 2006 07:26 AM | Link to this

You see, all one has to do is to miantain a youthful, freshly scrubbed appearance and then carry a Bible around. The result is that inside you can be the most corrupt, filthy person, but guess what? People can’t see beyond that!

By Objective Observer

February 7, 2006 07:34 AM | Link to this

Has anyone ever questioned why you can only link to text in “blue” on this site?

By Andy

February 7, 2006 07:39 AM | Link to this

Thomas Sowell is the Man:

Looking back at the history of tragic times often reveals that many — or most — of the people of those times were often preoccupied with things that look trivial, or even pathetic, in view of the catastrophe looming over them. Will later generations looking back at our times see a similar blindness, and even frivolousness, in the face of mortal dangers?

Terrorists and terrorist governments are giving us almost daily evidence of their fanatical hatred and violent sadism, as the clock ticks away toward their gaining possession of nuclear weapons.

Yet what are we preoccupied with or outraged about? Whether the American government should intercept the phone calls of these cutthroats to people in the United States.

By AntiRadical

February 7, 2006 08:13 AM | Link to this

Ralph Reed, Jim Baker, Pat Robertson, Bishop Paulk, Catholic sex-priests, Jimmy Swaggert, …

The religious right’s “Hall of Shame” keeps growing, and growing, and growing… regular little energizer bunnies.

“As you’ve probably heard, the Pope has asked all the Cardinals to return to Rome. You know how they got them all to come back? They told them that there was going to be a performance by the Vienna Boys Choir.” —Jay Leno

Send Reed to prison to get him some help. His bowel impaction is why he is so full of …Bush. Boys in the pen can help him “loosen-up” and “clear his mind”.

By George

February 7, 2006 08:16 AM | Link to this

Andy

Noone cares if you change your tune or not. The subject for today is Ralph Reed. Can you foncus on that for a while? Is it possible?

By LiberalsAreBigots

February 7, 2006 08:19 AM | Link to this

Its great to see liberals spew their bigoted hatred fro Christians.

LIBERALS ARE BIGOTS

By KeepGodoutofourSchools

February 7, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

But its bad to see incompetence in politicians, like all Christian elected leaders.

By AntiRadical

February 7, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this

“The Cardinals will be staying at the Domus Sanctae Marthae, the new hotel at the Vatican, where turn down service means the bell boy isn’t interested.” —Daily Show host Jon Stewart

“They say (the Pledge of Allegiance) violates the separation of church and state. How about the separation of church and altar boy? That’s what I’m worried about.” —Jay Leno

“Cardinal Law had difficulty with his memory under oath today. He could only remember three commandments. Under oath, Cardinal Law said ‘I do not recall’ 43 times. I’m telling you, this guy is presidential material.” —David Letterman

“The House Transportation Committee is now considering a bill that would allow pilots to carry guns for protection. I’ve got a better idea, why not give guns to altar boys, give them a fighting chance.” —Jay Leno

“In Boston, it looks like Cardinal Bernard Law isn’t going to be punished. It turns out he’s getting transferred to Rome, which is kind of like a promotion. He said today he wanted to thank all the little people.” —Jay Leno

“The Church reaffirming celibacy — it’s kind of like Clinton reaffirming monogamy.” —Jay Leno

“Today the Catholic Church unveiled its new policy. Don’t ask, don’t confess.” —Jay Leno

“There is a big conference of Catholic Bishops in Dallas. Well this is great for the city, it brings in about $12 million in hush money.” —David Letterman

“The Supreme Court ruled today that virtual child pornography is legal. Finally, some good news for the church.” —Jay Leno

“The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life.”- Adolf Hitler, Berlin, 2/1/33.

By Stan

February 7, 2006 08:48 AM | Link to this

Mike Luckovich is a coward. He can pick on Protestants, Catholics,and Republicans because he can get away with it. Let’s see him do one on babykilling, beheading, woman bashing, intolerant dregs like radical Muslims. He’s scared and intimidated. What a spineless moron!

By gadem

February 7, 2006 08:51 AM | Link to this

Andy, are you excited that Bush is going to be in Georgia today?

By Andy

February 7, 2006 08:59 AM | Link to this

Dear George @ 8:16: If you want me to talk about Ralph Reed it would require that I also bring up his opponent Mark Taylor. This is an awfully touchy subject for a Conservative, as we actually do respect someone’s “right to privacy,” we just don’t say it like you pinkos do. I could even use the example you lowlife liberals set when you giggled about Jeb Bush’s family problems but I feel that is beneath me, I am better than you democrats.

So I talk about NSA topics instead. Deal with it. You pinkos can stay with the politics of personal destruction.

By DawgBite

February 7, 2006 09:03 AM | Link to this

gadem, this just might be the day that chicken little Andy cuts through the shrink wrap still around his house from Y2K, dons his kevlar diaper, terror proof vest, steel soled boots, kevlar helmet, takes a good look around for all the terrorist waiting to kill his dumb little a$% as he sneaks out the door, and rushes down to the funeral to plant a big wet sloppy one right on his stickbud George’s lips. What a red letter day for Andy. Of course my bet is that he decides to stay hidden under his bed blogging all day.

By Edd Williams

February 7, 2006 09:09 AM | Link to this

You really need to learn that your far-left heroes are much bigger crooks, liars and hypocrites than any Republican!!!

By Dollar Bill

February 7, 2006 09:14 AM | Link to this

Newt Gingrich invented the “politics of personal destruction.” It doesn’t get more republican than Newt. Yet the Newt turned out to be one of the biggest hypocrites of the whole crew. Divorced one wife on her death bed, cheated on another while putting the “Lewinsky” to Clinton, and wound up, surprise surprise having to vacate his position and the moral high ground.

By PrayingforAmerica

February 7, 2006 09:20 AM | Link to this

The day Americans place a level of importance on a man’s religious background before electing him to office is the day that Americans become a step closer to Al-Qaeda

By Andy's Mom

February 7, 2006 09:23 AM | Link to this

DawgBite, I sure hope you’re right. Andy really needs to get out of the house. He’s been hiding under his bed since the last Osama Bin Laden threat a couple weeks ago. The family tried an intervention but he wouldn’t stop typing on the internet, he would just mumble “have to attack pinko, have to attack pinko.” He spends his whole life attacking pinkos and I don’t even know what a pinko is, I think it might be a gay thing, not that there is anything wrong with that.

Andy’s shrink thinks I should just cancel my internet service, but I know he would kill himself. Oh dear.

By jpetz

February 7, 2006 09:24 AM | Link to this

Lets hear from Ralph Reed supporters and why they believe Reed is the best person the state has to offer to become Lt. Governor. At that point I will gladly refute every possible positive comment on this guy. Reed has a simple formula for success - he believes most evangelical Christians are suckers for anyone proclaiming to be doing work in the name of Jesus. This is the same philosophy used by hypocrites such as Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, and Pat Robertson. Wake up my fellow Christians, lest you be fooled once again.

By Ricky

February 7, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this

It constantly amazes me the amount of hate speech thrown at religion on this blog. Sure there are some bad guys like Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed that claim to represent Christians, but to make statements that paints all believers as being embodied by those two is a joke. Anti-Catholicism and anti-religion truely are two of the last prejuidices that are allowed by our society.

By Brian Curtis

February 7, 2006 09:37 AM | Link to this

Ricky: At religion, or at fundamentalism? I’ve got no problem with Christians as a rule, but we’re talking fundamentalists here: zealots and morons who pose a clear and present danger to our society, and indeed all of human civilization.

You bet I hate them. So do most real Christians, because fundies give them a bad name.

By gadem

February 7, 2006 09:40 AM | Link to this

jpetz, that is the same formula that a good majority of preachers use as well….only they mix in wealth with that message. Jesus does not want you to be poor, so give me your money.

By Andy

February 7, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

They already found the party money, like that was the first priority:

NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - Shortcomings in aid from the U.S. government are making New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin look to other nations for help in rebuilding his hurricane-damaged city.

Why don’t you pinkos hit the Dutch up, they can send you some weed without the middle man.

By Ricky

February 7, 2006 09:43 AM | Link to this

Brian Curtis, I agree with you on fundamentalism. Muslim or Christian, it is all bad. However, I have seen many posts on here attacking religion as a whole. That is what bothers me. The same people will get mad about painting any other group with a broad brush, but it is okay to do it to religion.

By gadem

February 7, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

Ricky, I consider myself a Christian, but what I have always wondered is how can you judge the religions of others. I just try to live my life right. No one can choose which parents they have, or which religions they are born into.

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 7, 2006 10:01 AM | Link to this

At least no one ever wanted to exterminate you for being Christian…

By gadem

February 7, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

Not recently JAPOI, but Christians were persecuted as well….I think Christians were the first to be persecuted.

By Andy

February 7, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

Jewish and Proud of It: Say what? At least no one ever wanted to exterminate you for being Christian… You might want to study up a little on the Islamic Jihad.

By DawgBite

February 7, 2006 10:06 AM | Link to this

Andy’s Mom..you sure know your son. Good luck with his many afflictions. I think the intervention thing is a good idea. May I recommend Dr. Phil and Oprah as the primaries?

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 7, 2006 10:14 AM | Link to this

You might want to study up a little on the Islamic Jihad

They want to exterminate you for being American…big difference.

By Scooter

February 7, 2006 10:16 AM | Link to this

I’m an agnostic infidel. Are you?

By Andy

February 7, 2006 10:18 AM | Link to this

Sudan jihad forces Islam on Christians

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 7, 2006 10:31 AM | Link to this

Andy, I’m afraid I am much more familiar with the Jihad than you will ever be, having lost an uncle and my grandfather to bombing attacks. Why? The right of Israelis to exist in the land of our ancestors. I’m frustrated in thinking that the eternal conflict has come down to a battle for real estate.

By gadem

February 7, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this

As sad as it is JAPOI that is basically what it boils down to.

By WWJD

February 7, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this

“You used to find roast chickens, raw chicken, sausages, ham, butter, all kinds of fruit,” said the crippled 68-year-old garbage picker, hobbling through putrid hills of trash that fed him for 20 years. “They have ruined us.”

Every day on the pestilent eastern edge of this city of 18 million, hundreds of poor families rake what they can sell to recyclers from household waste dumped at their feet by a legion of freelance dustmen in battered horse-drawn carts. With little state welfare anywhere in Latin America, trash collection and garbage dumps are sometimes a form of social safety net for the very poor who seek food and household goods others have thrown away.

Sounds kind of like Bush, Cheney and the con’s view of what America should be like doesn’t it?

By Steve

February 7, 2006 10:40 AM | Link to this

gadem - Have you read the Old Testament? Seems to me that the Israelites were pretty much persecuted during most of that time.

Andy - Your quote from that whole article is a bit off. What about all of the paragraph before that stating that “Muslims understand Islam to be the same religion that God revealed to Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad”?

By WWJD

February 7, 2006 10:42 AM | Link to this

That’s Andy for you. He edits LIBERALLY to spin it his way.

By gadem

February 7, 2006 10:48 AM | Link to this

Yeah Steve, but as far as major religions go, I was saying that Christians were also persecuted….what religion were the isralites anyway?

By Midori

February 7, 2006 10:51 AM | Link to this

Ralph Reed - King of the Weasels.

a lot of good info on him here

By WWJD

February 7, 2006 11:02 AM | Link to this

There is no way on God’s earth that anyone can compare this “terrorist jihad” against America to the persecution of Jews and the terror directed at Israel. MILLIONS of Jews have died from the terror directed against them by not only by terrorist organizations but by nation states as well. To even try to compare what has been done to the Jews to Bush’s “war on terror” is not only disrespectful to Jews and Israel, but is disgustingly dishonest.

By Andy

February 7, 2006 10:05 AM | Link to this

Jewish and Proud of It: Say what? At least no one ever wanted to exterminate you for being Christian… You might want to study up a little

Leave it to Andy to once again compare apples to oranges. There is a substantial difference in the body count Andy.

By finch

February 7, 2006 11:08 AM | Link to this

What does Ralph Reed’s public hypocrisy, demonstrated by his shilling for gambling foes while at the same time lobbying for gambling interests have to do with Mark Taylor’s private life?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Duplicity (n) - 1. Deliberate deceptiveness in behavior or speech. b. An instance of deliberate deceptiveness; double-dealing. 2. The quality or state of being twofold or double.

By WWJD

February 7, 2006 11:11 AM | Link to this

By gadem

February 7, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

Ricky, I consider myself a Christian, but what I have always wondered is how can you judge the religions of others. I just try to live my life right. No one can choose which parents they have, or which religions they are born

gadem you have said it all brother. When the roll is called up yonder I am willing to bet that the measuring stick will be what good deeds has one done while on earth and how one has treated his fellow man. I am also willing to bet that alot of the self professed “christians” we see on this blog won’t be there based upon some of the ideas that they have for their fellow man.

By Dusty

February 7, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this

This blog can be said to be “much ado about nothing”. I haven’t heard Reed being convicted of anything. But his choice of friends and associates leaves much to be desired. I think we can do better for a governmental office.

As to killing and religion, I don’t think you can find a group of people in history who have NOT been persecuted at one time or another. Some more than others, it seems. As much as I love this country, we are not exempt. The difference is that we stop and amend those we have harmed;(slaves, Native Americans). The current state of hate as exemplified by liberals is discouraging. They go so far as to excoriate those who would protect us. That is alarming. But I will say no more. Lengthy posts are boring.

By getalife

February 7, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

evildoers!

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 7, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

The difference is that we stop and amend those we have harmed;(slaves, Native Americans).

Your kidding right? How many Native Americans have you seen outside a reservation? I’d be willing to bet not many. What about the Japanese Americans that were placed in camps during WWII? Saying “We’re sorry, we screwed up” isn’t exactly making amends…

By WWJD

February 7, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

Ricky, please describe this “current state of hate” that applies only to liberals. Examples please. And then you can tell us how the cons, conservatives, neocons, whatever it is they call themselves now have a patent on righteousness. Enlighten us please. We would all like to join the ranks of the righteous.

By Andy

February 7, 2006 11:31 AM | Link to this

Steve: I thought you would have enough maturity and intelligence to interpret my linked column on your own. My bad. So here is the entire paragraph for you silly pinkos:

The Koran addresses Jews and Christians as “People of the Book” who may also share a heavenly home: “those who have faith, those who are Jews and Christians…shall have their reward.” (2:62 and 5:69) At the same time, the Koran clearly rejects the divinity of Jesus and warns of the dangers of a trinitarian theology. Christians are in danger of the most heinous sin, shirk, which is “associating something human with God.” The best answer to this question is for non-Muslims to engage in a thoughtful study of Islam.

Notice how the Koran considers us to be the same?

This is the last words I will speak on this subject. I’m not going to engage in a game of who is the biggest victim with you losers. You sit around all day with the “woe is me” bulls—-, I have better things to do.

By getalife

February 7, 2006 11:32 AM | Link to this

Yep, Democracy

By DawgBite

February 7, 2006 11:36 AM | Link to this

And you hide under your bed all day p** your diaper Andy. You only come out to type more Rushrant. We know if you can’t tie a subject to your lovefest with George and his “war on terror” that you have very few words anyway. No big loss.

By Steve SC

February 7, 2006 11:40 AM | Link to this

Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world.” Ever since He said it, the powerful on earth have been acting as though He also said, “I’ll let you do whatever you like on earth until I come back”. At least Ralphie acts as though it were true …

By Objective Observer

February 7, 2006 11:42 AM | Link to this

Getalife:

Was that Ross Perot standing between Rove & Cheney in your link.

By Andy

February 7, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this

Look blogger/ DawgBite: I thought you were going to get over your gaybait fascination with me? What’s the matter did you fall off the wagon? Your boyfriend seeing another man on you? Why don’t you go chase cattle in the pasture or something where you stand a chance to score?

By WWJD

February 7, 2006 11:46 AM | Link to this

One of my favorite stories in the bible is when Jesus expelled the money changers from the Temple. Could that be the fate met by the Dick Cheneys, the Lays, the Skillings, Ebbers, Rigas, Scrushys, and others of their ilk when the roll is called up yonder? I bet if they could, to a man they would arrive at the pearly gates with bible in hand, just as they did when they showed up in the courthouse, professing that they have done nothing wrong. I bet it doesn’t do them any good.

By getalife

February 7, 2006 11:48 AM | Link to this

OO,

No, he has a W on his belt buckle.

Check out the shadows.

By Objective Observer

February 7, 2006 11:50 AM | Link to this

Well what do you know, they all have big ears. Was that ml’s doing?

By DawgBite

February 7, 2006 11:51 AM | Link to this

I much prefer my lovely Mexican wife, Andy. The cattle are all yours.

By gadem

February 7, 2006 11:52 AM | Link to this

I have also wondered, what about all those that have blindly followed those who professed to be of the faith. Would those people have the same fate as the false prophets?

By getalife

February 7, 2006 11:54 AM | Link to this

OO,

Told you Cheney was the devil, he likes to torture people.

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 7, 2006 11:55 AM | Link to this

The best answer to this question is for non-Muslims to engage in a thoughtful study of Islam

Not exterminate non-Muslims…big difference between “thoughtful study of Islam” and exterminate all non-Muslims…

By WWJD

February 7, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this

That was the point I was trying to make in an earlier post gadem. It never fails that the biggest miscreants shamelessly use the Bible as a prop every single time they get caught in wrongdoing.

By Dusty

February 7, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

Jewish and Proud,

You need to read a little more. I have worked with Native Americans for ten summers. They have their own elected officials, numerous benefits including health care, and can go anywhere they please. Many prefer to stay with the majority of their own and the benefits of the reservation. Some tribes are very properous and some not. It depends on their location and natural resources.

If you will read the Civil Liberties Act of 1988 you will find what amendments Americans made to Japanese Americans and Aleuts of WWII. It included apologies and retributions. Read before you post next time.

By Jewish and Proud of It

February 7, 2006 12:13 PM | Link to this

Dusty, I too have worked with Native Americans, specifically the Oglala Sioux indians of the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota (the same one they filmed Dances with Wolves at) and I can honestly say that conditions are deplorable. Poverty and unemployment rates have been in the 70th percentile (though they have decreased marginally). For most on that particular reservation, freedom of movement is a luxury. Most cannot go anywhere they please and there is NO benefit to staying on the reservation. One of my friends, Twila Two Bulls, has told me that it has always been that way with no opportunity to do otherwise… As for the Japanese, I was asking the question, which you answered, I will read the Civil Liberties Act and see for myself.

By WWJD

February 7, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

Still waiting on Ricky to give us the lowdown on the “current state of hate” that is the sole property of liberals.

By Dr R

February 7, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this

Good one, ML. Ralph’s an easy target but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t fire away.

BTW, I saw Mike on CNN on Monday talking about the Muslim cartoon controversy. I realize he was put on the spot — I mean, who wants a fatwah if he can avoid it — but I would have liked to see him stand up more for the concept of free expression. The whole controversy points out the mentality of those who foment terrorism and why we’ll never win them over. They value their icons and images more than they do the concept of liberty, which apparently is a bit too abstract for such tiny minds.

By WWJD

February 7, 2006 12:26 PM | Link to this

Scooter, would you please show me where I have said one word about government handouts in any of my posts. Can you do that please?

By Objective Observer

February 7, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

Getalife:

Please don’t make me reveal my secret life again. I just paid you a visit offshore

By Scooter

February 7, 2006 12:27 PM | Link to this

Dr. R, I think it is the liberty of humans that they see as evil. Humans should not be free to be evil. I think that is their thing.

By physicsDawg

February 7, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

By gadem 11:52 AM

I have also wondered, what about all those that have blindly followed those who professed to be of the faith. Would those people have the same fate as the false prophets?

Those who blindly follow will still be lost. False Teachers who lead others astray will have a worse time in Hell/more punishment heaped on. Sorry, I don’t have my Bible at work to quote verses for those.

By finch

February 7, 2006 12:30 PM | Link to this

getalife, that evildoers link is truly a work of art! Thanks for the find!! I love the shadows.

DawgBite, isn’t it hilarious that the obsessed blogger here who accuses you of gaybaiting is guilty of more gaybaiting here than everyone else combined?

Ralph Reed, Dobson, Ashcroft, Brownback, Robertson and their ilk have found the perfect “religion” for their bloated egos and greed. In their minds, all they have to do when they show up at the Gates of Heaven (Bible in hand) is confess to their sins, and they’re IN!

What a great brand of Christianity. You’re not responsible for anything! All you have to do is say, “I’m sorry… “

By WashingtonState

February 7, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

Dusty, Unless you have worked in a Casino, I can’t match your description of the Native American’s life with reality. Health care is minimal. A clinic manned by a doctor paying back the government for loans or a nurse practitioner. Housing is usually trailers. Alcoholism kills many of the young men. Child mortality is higher than among any other group. Epidemics of disease such as meningococcal meningitis are common. I challenge you to spend a summer on a real reservations, living like the typical resident, and then come back and post what you posted.

By Dusty

February 7, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this

Jewish & Proud,

I, too, worked with the Oglala Sioux (Lakota) on the Cheyenne River Reservation at Eagle Butte one summer. It was an impoverished area. But my friend there, Rachel Yelseagle had worked and financed a college education for her son. The rolling prairie seemed to be the only resource for most. (I loved the beautiful fossils that turned up everywhere there.)

The Navajo, with a reservation the size of West Virginia, were/are a strong, prosperous tribe. The White Mountain Apaches, with a thriving lumber industry and winter sports center were/are also doing well. They had a beautiful large hospital and a fairly large airport that firefighter planes used. I hope you get to visit other reservations and the more fortunate of a proud people.

By Scooter

February 7, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

WWJD, I assumed you are a “liberal”, if I was wrong I apologize. However that does not invalidate everything I typed.

Do you think the tax cuts were given to the rich? Do you think that giving tax credits/handouts to the poor in 2001 was what would have created jobs? Do you think people who pay no taxes should get money back at the end of the year?

Again if you are not an economic bufoon/”know it all”, I apologize for generalizing. I am cramped for time. I was talking more about democrat policies and those who support them.

The government gets its power from people who cannot live without it and I don’t see governments motivation to produce self sufficient citizens. But, I see democrats fighting school choice at every corner and I wonder why they are so insistent that competitiion not be allowed in education.

By WashingtonState

February 7, 2006 12:36 PM | Link to this

Dusty, We have a lot of reservations in Washington, Oregon, and Idaho. I am afraid the one you visited is the exception.

By Simon Jester

February 7, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

GA GOP looks more like Madeline Albright than a GOP mom. GOP women are much prettier; ugly prostitutes don’t produce Republican level graft. Whatever can be said about the RepubliCrooks, you can’t say they don’t know how to work their “trim”.

By Dr R

February 7, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this

Indeed. We see this in Ralph Reed (to tie back to the cartoon) and others in our society who place their all-too-human interpretation of faith above the very values and concepts faith is supposed to real: Truth, liberty, tolerance, etc. If religion doesn’t open your mind to a better life in this world, how do you expect to reach the next world? And if violence and hatred of your fellow man is enacted in the name of your “God,” what kind of God do you have? So many Christians and Muslims do it the right way, but both have been hijacked by extremists who deign to speak for all. In the latter case, those who stay silent are complicit to those who do so.

And let’s call it like it is: Those Islamists who blow themselves up, who march in the streets and scream “Down to America” and who would burn an embassy over cartoons are uneducated, moronic, barbaric, medieval slobs. You can’t reason with people that dense.

By DawgBite

February 7, 2006 12:39 PM | Link to this

finch, I think alot of people here are finally figuring Andy out.

By Andy

February 7, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

PhysicsDawg: Type in the Scripture or Chapter into a google search and several good links to the Bible will come up. Google hasn’t censored them yet.

By WashingtonState

February 7, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

More quotes for 02/07/06

This is the one you need to worry about.

Some of the conservative critics, such as Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform, contend that Bush should simply comply with the law requiring the government to obtain a court order when it wants to wiretap an American. Bush’s aides have asserted that warrants take too long to obtain, but Norquist said the law allows investigators to plant a wiretap first and seek permission up to three days later.

Here’s an old friend:

Bob Barr, a onetime Republican representative from Georgia and a former prosecutor, said the issue is whether the president can violate a law, not whether this particular program makes sense from a policy perspective in the war on terrorism.

Then there is this one:

But Robert Levy of the libertarian Cato Institute said conducting surveillance on US soil without a warrant is one of the things that Bush cannot do, even in wartime, because Congress passed a law making it a criminal offense to wiretap Americans without a warrant, even in national security circumstances.

More:

Other conservative critics, such as David Keene, the chairman of the American Conservative Union - which calls itself the largest grass-roots conservative organization in the country - say the president should simply get the House and Senate to approve the program, rather than assert a right to bypass Congress in times of war.

"Their argument is extremely dangerous in the long term because it can be used to justify all kinds of things that I'm sure neither the president nor the attorney general has thought about," Keene said. A president "could just do whatever [he] wants to do. . . . The American system was set up on the assumption that you can't rely on the good will of people with power."

And my favorite:

“My criteria for judging this stuff is what would a President Hillary do with these same powers,” said Paul M. Weyrich, the influential writer and leader of the Free Congress Foundation, a think tank. “And if I’m troubled by what she would do, then I have to be troubled by what Bush could do, even though I have more trust in Bush than I do in Hillary.”

By Ricky

February 7, 2006 12:43 PM | Link to this

Dr R, you are right about the people currently protesting these cartoons. You can’t reason with them. They are allowing themselves to be used as pawns by the extreme wing of their religion that wants to destroy the western world. Why do they want to destroy the western world? Because they have realized their culture has fallen behind the leading societies of the world. Most Arab/Muslims live in poverty and don’t have the opportunity to improve themselves. At one time they were the leading light of the world. But then the Western world went through reformation and the enlightenment that led us to where we are today. The Arab/Muslim world has gone through that transformation yet and that is why they are lagging behind.

By finch

February 7, 2006 12:44 PM | Link to this

“Sudan jihad forces Islam on Christians.”

Isn’t it great that the Bush administration is doing so much to help feed the starving Christians and animists in Darfur while helping them resist the Muslim janjaweed and the oppressive Sudanese government?

Oh… they’re not?

In a related development, NYTimes columnist Nicholas Kristoff today launched a pledge drive to help fund a visit by Bill O’Reilly to Darfur.

He acted after O’Reilly sent him an email saying “I do 3