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By ex-NWA f/a

Apr 10, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this

Old Delta Guy...you got it right! It is not NWA's fault that many senior Delta pilots ran for the exits when the pension plan was cancelled. The younger guys got a chance to experience the "good life" sooner than expected and, as you said, they got used to it. I remember getting a line and then going back on reserve....boy, that was tough! I agree that all seniority lists should be merged the same. I would be saying this even if I were a Delta employee. I was raised in ATL and my dad flew Eastern and Delta everywhere!

By J.R.

Apr 10, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Dear Old Timer,

Ever think that Delta is NOT in decline? Delta is doing remarkably well and is in the best financial position of any airline while STILL treating its employees better than any other. You absolutely MUST consider that when Delta made money hand over fist that oil prices were dirt cheap and people were willing to pay higher prices for airfare. No one could have anticipated current oil prices. That and the consumer market is completely different. If Ron Allen, the last home-grown head honcho, were still running the show, Delta would have folded ages ago.

By J. R.

Apr 10, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

In response to those who take issue with the fact that Delta's current executive leadership had not been groomed within the system: just snap out of it. In the days of Ron Allen, Delta was a dysfunctional victim of corporate inbreeding. There it wasn't about making money (anyone remember Leadership 7.5? That crew couldn't lead its way out of a paper bag.), but about being a Southern airline. New ideas were stifled and the old boy network was alive and well. In contrast, today's Delta is full of vitality with its international emphasis. Finally, Delta is focusing in the right direction. By the way, I am an 18-year Delta employee with a business degree. For those employees who take issue with Delta only being in the business of making money, well, of course they are. The very first thing one learns in basic business courses is that the number one objective is indeed to make money.

By old timer

Apr 10, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

Delts's decline has been due, in large part, to the fact that at the old delta promotion was always from within. Every upper management person had experience in the lower jobs and understood the system. There is not one single upper management person now who has a Delta background. Their sole experience has been going from one company to another looking for more money. That's how they measure success. None of them would have reached their positions at the Old but Good Delta. Their evaluations should read, "Helped kill a great company."

By OLD DELTA GUY

Apr 10, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Rick...my opinion is shared by the vast majority of older DAL people. The younger ones who remain self-centered would not have survived at the "old delta".

By ExDAL AMT

Apr 10, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

I left Delta a couple of years ago after 18 years as a mechanic. It was a tough choice, but I am much better off now. I imagine conditions are worse now than they were then. It was a great job at a great company. That once great company, unfortunately evolved into an ATM for upper management where the employees became a liability instead of an asset. The board for years has been the proverbial "Goat guarding the cabbage patch"
I wish everyone the best, because the vast majority of the people I worked with were excellent, dedicated people, excluding upper management. For upper management the phrase: Sht in = Sht out seems to apply.
To paraphrase a quote from Teddy Roosevelt " When the role is called at a Delta board of directors meetings, the members don't know whether to answer present or not guilty"

Good Luck All

By Rick

Apr 10, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

Old Delta Guy,
your way of thinking is fair, rational and equitable. I hope that doesn't make you an outcast at DL.

True Delta,
I'm not a widget but I appreciate what you and your co-workers do.

By applecheeks

Apr 10, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

I have found the Delta flight attendants to VERY NICE and accommodating. I've observed them closely and even when they look tired from a quick turn; they are smiling and gracious. The general public is usually rude and treat them with total disregard and I very seldom hear a "thank you" to any of them. Stay strong and keep smiling. You really are making Delta look good.

By Delta Retiree

Apr 10, 2008 1:50 AM | Link to this

This is to True Delta.
Your 1:24 post was excellent. Well stated, and from your heart. Us old widgets appreciate you and know y'all do a helluvajob and tolerate a lot of crap.