Thinking Right

By Redneck Convert

January 13, 2009 8:25 AM | Link to this

Well, I say turn these Gitmo people loose and make them work for landscapers and chicken plants and other small businesses. They are already here, so it would save us having more illegals cross the border to get hired. We all know no business pays any attention to the immigration laws. And these Gitmo people would probly work for $3 an hour after spending years making no money at all. This way, Free Innerprize would grow and we’d have about 300 less illegals to deal with.

Have a good day everybody.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 13, 2009 8:33 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. Our genial host finds one of the three hot button issues for our leftist brethren. Making rash declarations is easy when one lacks capacity to do anything about it, but making a rational judgment when one holds the levers of power is an unrelated skill. While the transition team undoubtedly launched a trial balloon on issue #1 (the other two are enhanced interrogation for terrorists and surveillance of terrorist communications) sometimes practical leftists launch such balloons with no intention of implementing, merely to appease their allies who foam at the mouth.

Of course, as I posted Friday, I still think it would be appropriate to turn the terrorists loose in Brattleboro, VT and Marlboro, VT – those two towns deserve them, and seemingly are allied with the Islamists who hate America. Less amusingly, Jim focuses on the big issue – what should Obama do with them if he releases them? The last thing he wants is for Republicans to campaign “Ahkmed Mohammed, formerly held at GTMO, but released by Obama, killed 2 Marines and 321 Afghan civilians in a suicide bombing today.” Of course the leftists would call that a Willie Horton ploy, which it would be. Fair is fair, and such criticism, if true, would be fair.

By Howard

January 13, 2009 8:35 AM | Link to this

Jim…Barack Obama operated his campaign by the classic political M.O. SAY anything to get elected, especially when 50% or more of the American population are morons, you have a doddering old fool running against your campsign and all the media with their noses so far up your butt, if you turn too sharply, they’ll break them!! Then once you get in?? DO anything to stay in power. Even if that means breaking promises to idiots on the far left, to Hollywood liberals, etc. This guy is an absolute joke!! Talk about Sarah Palin being inexperienced??? This man is a complete, 150% joke. He will make Jimmy Carter look like Harry Truman!!!

By Davo

January 13, 2009 9:05 AM | Link to this

Maybe we can send them to Saudi Arabia? Oh wait, that would have made much more sense to do it from the very beginning. I guess our arab allies didn’t want to extend hospitalities to their islamic brethren; maybe they thought it would invite attacks in their cities and country. Allah forbid that they should involvle themselves in this war on terrorism; they need to save their strength for the war against Israel.

By Political Foreskin

January 13, 2009 9:16 AM | Link to this

If these Gitmo guys survived waterboarding, then we will be releasing terrorists who can hold their breath underwater for long periods of time. Our Navy will be sitting ducks. We’ll be finished as a superpower.

China called. They want Taiwan back. (and they have a shiney new navy)

By Road Scholar

January 13, 2009 9:21 AM | Link to this

Put them on trial and if guilty execute. If innocent, release them to their home country; let them figure it out. Now I didn’t say I’d release them at ground level; 20,000 ft above the ground should do!

By Political Foreskin

January 13, 2009 9:37 AM | Link to this

Who remembers the Incredible Mr. Lippet? with Don Knotts? A fish-man could destroy a whole navy. We cant release the aquamen/terrorists survivors of GITMO. It’s like using cockroaches who survived a bug-bomb as studs to fertilize the queen.

No homeowner would be safe.

What to do with the captured enemy? We could re-enact the Bataan Death March or the Trail of Tears using them as extras for the Discovery Channel or History Channel. “No animals were harmed in the filming of this program, but a few islamists got lost in the desert for forty years. Tune in next week for “Exodus” the story of Moses, with Edward G Robinson. “

By Ghosts of Culver Kidd and Carl Vinson

January 13, 2009 9:44 AM | Link to this

We note that there are empty buildings on the campus of Central State Hospital in Milledgeville. With a federal grant of, oh, say $1 billion that campus could be restored, the Gitmoans and related judicial functions housed there and jobs provided for many Georgia voters, er, rather residents.

By Mermaid Man

January 13, 2009 9:49 AM | Link to this

My young ward, Barnacle Boy, and myself would capture any swimming terrorists and put them in suspended animation in blocks of frozen tartar sauce. Well, we could with a federal grant of, oh, say $1 billion clams.

By Political Foreskin

January 13, 2009 9:50 AM | Link to this

You dont have to be an economist to know that printing money and then spending it is inflationary.

Obama may be doing the worst possible thing with his stimulus package which is all printed money.

We could see double digit inflation of 18 to 25 percent.

That would ruin us, ruinous inflation would ruin us, it would be so ruinous, and we would all be ruined.

You’d hear men on cellphones talking loudly in line at Starbucks: “I’m ruined.”

By Andy the Welcher

January 13, 2009 9:52 AM | Link to this

Put em all down. Nobody knows who they are, where they are, they certainly won’t be missed, and the world will be a better place with fewer “conservatives”…

Andy’s a welcher

ew

By Sign Me Up

January 13, 2009 10:12 AM | Link to this

Of course, this is America, the land of justice and due process for all. Or not. STEAL $50 BILLION, violate the terms of bail, and STILL recline comfortably at will in the luxury of what your ill-gotten gains will buy. Steal a package of huggies from your local WalMart and spend months in jail eating thinly-sliced, moldy baloney sandwiches and cold grits waiting for someone to care. Be born in a country America has invaded, and you get no due process at all. Um, okay, I’ll go with what’s behind door number one: STEAL $50 BILLION! Hey, as long as I’m a contributor to the re-election funds of honorable good godly Republicans, I’m GOLDEN!

By The Forgotten Messiah

January 13, 2009 10:16 AM | Link to this

You know, Mermaid, that’s crazy. Just crazy enough to WORK!

Somebody get Mrs Paul on the phone.

By Mrs. Paul

January 13, 2009 10:20 AM | Link to this

We have a new tartar sauce production line ready to start, pending issuance of a no-bid government contract of oh, say, $1 billion. We will employ 1,000 voters, er, American citizens in this heroic, patriotic effort.

By Maniac is accurate

January 13, 2009 10:30 AM | Link to this

OK, duty calls, meaning that’s all the free, worthy-of-a-sixth-rate-Catskills-resort schtick for today. But, please, do try to carry on.

By Tom Shane

January 13, 2009 10:31 AM | Link to this

Where’s my Bail Out??

By Maniacal Pariah

January 13, 2009 10:33 AM | Link to this

I guess diamonds AREN’T a girlie-man’s best friend.

By Forgetful political roundtable J. moleskin

January 13, 2009 10:49 AM | Link to this

Cash only, and lots of it.

By Glenn

January 13, 2009 10:56 AM | Link to this

We should beware blowback should these ex-cons feel marginalized. Sure, I realize that some here would want to ghetto-ize those who’ve paid their debts to society, to make them wear ankle bracelets or to place them under the never-ending house-arrest of broadcasting to everyone, over the Internet, that they are terror addicts. But I think we’re better than that.

We should think about another, better way to relate to these people. For only in relation are we fully human; we are fully human in relation only. If one could reach deep into one’s heart — which is something you can’t really do at all, because the heart is like this big blood-pump in the middle of the chest — if one could do it, though, one might just possibly find it in one’s heart to discover the common humanity within each of these criminals. And in so doing, one might become better.

So in the interest of common betterment, the betterment of them and the betterment of ourselves, I urge each of us to think about how we might bring at least one of these fiends to live in our neighborhood. The term is “mainstreaming”, and it means that every one of us has an obligation to find a spare room, an attic or basement, even a spare sofa upon which at least one of these men can start his life anew.

By ron

January 13, 2009 11:01 AM | Link to this

Good morning,I finally learned how to navigate the new AJC.Bypass it completely.

Should the Gitmo detainees get moved from where they presently reside they will be set free,therefore I suggest that we simply open the gates and let them go.This will give Raul something to do.It will also fall under the heading of small payback for past receivings from that Island Nation.

Arming them would be optional.

By outhoused

January 13, 2009 11:17 AM | Link to this

Take em to the beach and tell them don’t know where you going but you can’t stay here. Then open fire…

By Glenn

January 13, 2009 11:47 AM | Link to this

Alternatively, go with the plan offered by “outhoused”.

Just in case the liberal approach doesn’t work out.

By tuff guy

January 13, 2009 11:49 AM | Link to this

RD @ 8:33 (sorry i’m late - i have an actual job!). I know the morons in Marlboro passed some idiot resolution about “monitoring” the use of the Patriot Act, but what drivel is Brattleboro guilty of?

As far as the Gitmo guys, can’t we just shoot them and be done with it? That’s what they’d do to us.

By Gina

January 13, 2009 11:57 AM | Link to this

Obama promised his daughters a mutt. Let him open up a kennel for stray Gitmos in the WH.

By Glenn

January 13, 2009 11:59 AM | Link to this

Hey tuff guy,

Welcome to this shoddy place. A word of warning: some of us tried that sensible approach, and found out just how sensibly mean, or meanly insensible, the liberals who hang out here can be. So, be careful. Come the Revolution, you might be next.

Also, some of us work nights.

Good luck to you,

Another tuff guy

By Jake

January 13, 2009 12:13 PM | Link to this

Release them only if they have sponsors as mail order grooms to those Texas YZR women. They might appreciate a good man.

By Shawny

January 13, 2009 12:32 PM | Link to this

Put antlers on their heads and turn them loose in NE GA during deer season. Problem solved.

By FaceOff

January 13, 2009 12:40 PM | Link to this

Who let the dogs out? Woof Woof, Michelle-O did!

-“Michelle Obama actually overruled her husband while on “GMA” when they were asked whether their two daughters had yet to get the dog they were promised.”-

-She said they had agreed to get the dog a year from now, while her husband said they will have “a year to test whether they are sufficiently responsible…”-

-But Michelle Obama cut him off, sayingy, “They are responsible.”-

-He tried again by saying “Whether they are going to be responsible in the middle of winter to go walk that dog.”-

-“We’re getting a dog,” his wife said flatly.-

-“When it’s cold outside,” Obama persisted.-

-His wife looked into the camera and said to their kids, “You guys are getting a dog.”-

-When the presidential candidate again asked who would be walking the dog, the potential first lady replied, “You will. You will all be walking the dog.”-

-“OK. All right,” Obama conceded.-

A president neutered in public.

hahahahahaha

By mark the plumber

January 13, 2009 12:50 PM | Link to this

Send them to Jay Bookman’s house. They can care for him, just the little things that come up from being BO’s newest fan club president. You know like wiping the brown off Jays nose, darning the knees of the pants he’ll be wearing out daily and helping him keep focus as he runs low on George Bush rantings months after he and Laura have returned to Tx., not to mention keeping those lips lubricated from the daily buttkissing he gives Miss Cynthia in her private office. No, the more I think of it, having to put up with that blowhard day after day is far worse than conditions at Gitmo. Even they don’t deserve that.

By WhoCares

January 13, 2009 12:54 PM | Link to this

Throw ‘em over the fence and let Castro worry about them.

By Jason

January 13, 2009 12:55 PM | Link to this

Alaska?

By fed up

January 13, 2009 1:03 PM | Link to this

I seem to remember the jokes about who was running the country when Reagan was in office, was it Ronald or was it Nancy. I think the same thing can be said next week when the Obamas are in office.

By W

January 13, 2009 1:09 PM | Link to this

Why don’t you ask Dick and Don what they had in mind when they decided to send them to Gitmo in the first place? You know, what were you thinking about doing with them after say 6 or 7 years went by? I think they figured they could shove them down an industrial sized paper shredder, ala Uday Hussein, while no one was looking. Not that I want to give anyone any ideas…

By Jake

January 13, 2009 1:11 PM | Link to this

Hahahah Ron! —> “Good morning, I finally learned how to navigate the new AJC. Bypass it completely.”

Welcome to the club. If one of those kids comes around your neighborhood selling subscriptions to that liberal parrot cage liner - and parrot it does from the DNC parrot New York Times - don’t forget to tell him or her why you won’t even read it (other than Wooten’s of course). Every time I even attempt to read it I get that awful feeling of needing a toilet - like right after eating a hot chili cheese burrito.

Anyway, there has been a lot of post-election backpedaling on campaign promises from the Obama/Biden camp recently as reality sets in and liberal democrat euphoria dissipates. The latest is the original promise to immediately start withdrawing troops from Iraq. All those big time campaign promises are starting to fizzle like a dud firecracker. Kindly note how backpedaling on a promise is now relabeled as “responsible withdrawal.” [This is not unlike liberal democrats now saying that deficits no longer matter.] Can’t wait to see what’s next up to fizzle out - and you can bet the DNC media won’t call them on it either - can’t have any negative news on the O-Team and Pelosicrats.

BAGHDAD (AP) - Vice President-elect Joe Biden told Iraqi leaders Tuesday that the incoming U.S. administration is committed to a responsible troop withdrawal that does not endanger improvements in security, an Iraqi spokesman said. Biden delivered the message in talks with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on the second day of his visit to Iraq, government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh told The Associated Press.

“He said that Obama is committed to withdraw but he wants the withdrawal to be a responsible one. Obama does not want to waste the security gains that have been achieved,” al-Dabbagh said. Since the election, Obama, who is to take office on Jan. 20, has said he is committed to bringing the troops home but has pledged to consult with U.S. commanders, who caution against removing U.S. forces too quickly.

By Ga Values

January 13, 2009 1:22 PM | Link to this

I do NOT like the new AJC site.

By Maniacal Pariah

January 13, 2009 1:42 PM | Link to this

Ron doesn’t comment enough, and instead of less ron, we need more ron, cause he’s very good.

Everybody: More Ron! More Ron!!!

MORE RON!!

By ron

January 13, 2009 1:45 PM | Link to this

Ga values——-I’m retired and as such I only have 24 hours of every day off,but I don’t intend to spend them trying to navigate through the AJC site.I can’t even see half of it.I did take time this morning to tell them how much I enjoyed their useless manipulations.

By getalife

January 13, 2009 1:46 PM | Link to this

Dan Rather volunteers to install a new toilet in Joe the Plumber’s er reporter’s guest bathroom.

Joe the reporter should replace Jim.

They both suk.

By deegee

January 13, 2009 1:52 PM | Link to this

Iraqi cleric ascends from al-Qaida to U.S. ally - New paths to power emerge following war and occupation

THULUYAH, Iraq - Nadhim Khalil wears the clothes of the cleric he is. He bears the scars of the insurgent he was. And in a country where business these days is power, he talks the speech of the merchant he has become, plying his trade in a contest for authority.

“Through his intervention, he said, the Americans have funded 20 projects for the town, from paving 10 miles of roads to bringing clean water for thousands of families. He still oversees salaries for the Sons of Iraq. He has found 400 people jobs in the army and police. He has secured compensation for 1,500 people who suffered injuries in fighting. ‘I have a lot of credit from the people at this point,’ he said.

Who says you can’t rehabilitate a terrorist? Send them along with a few million taxpayer dollars and they will work wonders for us.

By @@

January 13, 2009 2:04 PM | Link to this

Well Jim, it’s no suprise to me that you seek to protect all Americans from the terrorist elements within Gitmo. If only Obama could see things as you do.

It has not gone unnoticed by this poster, @@, that when writing columns about those you hold in high regard (Dr. Bob and Durwood McAlister), your “shining armor” serves as a defensive wall to those leftists who seek to annihilate anything or anyone decent here.

On the other hand, your policy is “open season” on all politicians as it should be.

You are a gentleman, Jim. The world could use more like you.

By mister.earl

January 13, 2009 2:29 PM | Link to this

Here is Bush’s legacy, in part:

He took the nation to a war of choice under false pretenses — and left troops in harm’s way on two fields of battle. He embraced torture as an interrogation tactic and turned the world’s champion of human dignity into an outlaw nation and international pariah.

He watched with detachment as a major American city went under water. He was ostensibly at the helm as the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression took hold. He went from being the most popular to the most disappointing president, having squandered a unique opportunity to unite the country and even the world behind a shared agenda after Sept. 11.

He set a new precedent for avoiding the general public in favor of screened audiences and seemed to occupy an alternate reality. He took his own political party from seeming permanent majority status to where it is today. And he deliberately politicized the federal government, circumvented the traditional policymaking process, ignored expert advice and suppress dissent, leaving behind a broken government.

• Froomkin, Washington Post

By ron

January 13, 2009 2:33 PM | Link to this

Dear Manical Pariah——For good check Glenn @10:56

By send jimbo to gitmo

January 13, 2009 2:47 PM | Link to this

send jimbo to gitmo cause you and the repubs sold the country out

By mister.earl

January 13, 2009 2:54 PM | Link to this

Here is Bush’s legacy, in part:

He took the nation to a war of choice under false pretenses — and left troops in harm’s way on two fields of battle. He embraced torture as an interrogation tactic and turned the world’s champion of human dignity into an outlaw nation and international pariah.

He watched with detachment as a major American city went under water. He was ostensibly at the helm as the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression took hold. He went from being the most popular to the most disappointing president, having squandered a unique opportunity to unite the country and even the world behind a shared agenda after Sept. 11.

He set a new precedent for avoiding the general public in favor of screened audiences and seemed to occupy an alternate reality. He took his own political party from seeming permanent majority status to where it is today. And he deliberately politicized the federal government, circumvented the traditional policymaking process, ignored expert advice and suppress dissent, leaving behind a broken government.

• Froomkin, Washington Post

By AF

January 13, 2009 2:54 PM | Link to this

Yes. Well, here is another Bush legacy. What is your solution, Jim? Just let it sit there, forever? Every kangaroo court Bush tried has been thrown out on appeal.

There are principles, Jim. Principles of law and justice. One of the most important differences between civiized people and barbarians is the rule of law. Bush sold out that principle and I want it back. I want the bad guys caught, tried, and hanged or shot. But, I want justice, not the barbarism of Bush.

By AF

January 13, 2009 3:00 PM | Link to this

Yes. Well, here is another Bush legacy. What is your solution, Jim? Just let it sit there, forever? Every kangaroo court Bush tried has been thrown out on appeal.

There are principles, Jim. Principles of law and justice. One of the most important differences between civiized people and barbarians is the rule of law. Bush sold out that principle and I want it back. I want the bad guys caught, tried, and hanged or shot. But, I want justice, not the barbarism of Bush.

By deegee

January 13, 2009 3:06 PM | Link to this

While we sit around sneering at Al Gore, the Arabs are actively pursuing the technology that will keep us dangling by the short and fuzzies.

“ABU DHABI: With one of the highest per capita carbon footprints in the world, the oil-rich United Arab Emirates would seem an unlikely place for a green revolution.

Gasoline sells for 12 cents a liter, or 45 cents a gallon. There is little public transportation and no recycling. Residents drive between air-conditioned apartments and air-conditioned malls that are lit 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

Still, leaders in the region know energy and money, having built their wealth on oil. They understand that oil is a finite resource, and vulnerable to competition from new energy forms.

So even as President-elect Barack Obama talks about promoting green jobs as the U.S. route out of recession, Gulf states like the Emirates, Qatar and Saudi Arabia are already making a concerted push to become the Silicon Valley of alternative energy.

They are aggressively pouring billions of dollars made in the oil fields into new green technologies. They are establishing billion-dollar clean-tech investment funds. And they are putting millions of dollars behind research projects at universities from Japan to Britain and setting up green research parks at home.”

By Peter

January 13, 2009 3:07 PM | Link to this

The way you write……By Ragnar Danneskjöld …I don’t read anyone who hates America MORE……or the true American way of life.

Send Terrorists to VT……….Nice……. You really are not at all a nice person…..God Bless you !

Perhaps on your dieing bed you will come to terms with what acceptance of others actually means !

Perhaps you will understand what living in America means…..

We are a melting pot form around the Globe, and in America all folks have rights….not just the Rich, and the connected.

By "Charles", The Original

January 13, 2009 3:07 PM | Link to this

The 250 al-Qaida and Taliban fighters and loyalists who are being held at Guantanamo Bay, including 15 considered most dangerous, are prisoners of the United States government and the people thereof. Excuse me, am I missing something here? It seems to me that the only place to house these prisoners in confinement is on the soil of America, New York, Kansas, Georgia, etc.

But on the other hand, if the United States is not a sovereign country, and its government is acting in the interest of the so-called “New World Order government”…, only then is searching for another country to house these combatants sensible.

Housing prisoners of the United States and the people thereof on American soil would increase the political capital of President Barrack Obama only if Americans are fully inform citizens.

By @@

January 13, 2009 3:16 PM | Link to this

When I read this column, I can’t help but think about how the ACLU has accused us of having gone too far with laws that protect our children from sexual predators.

What’s a parent to do?

What’s the ACLU gonna do?

By Steven Daedalus

January 13, 2009 3:29 PM | Link to this

Make them listen to Sarah Palin for 8 hours a day. After two days they would all kill themselves.

By Jane

January 13, 2009 3:36 PM | Link to this

Give them amnesty and register them to vote. The Democrats need as many votes as they can get.

By @@

January 13, 2009 3:39 PM | Link to this

In the interest of Obama’s safety, it’s best we don’t release the detainees here. If they’re nothing else, they ARE pithed off Muslims. They will view him as an apostate which is something/someone they despise more than infidels.

Much worse!

They must be “shipped” out!

If, while en route on the high seas, they encounter pirates who sink the ship, so be it. Those pirates can be dealt with later……if we’re able to find them, that is.

By CommunistAJC

January 13, 2009 3:40 PM | Link to this

Is Hussein going to cure terrorism?

Pentagon: 61 ex-Guantanamo inmates return to terrorism.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Pentagon said on Tuesday that 61 former detainees from its military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, appear to have returned to terrorism since their release from custody.

Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said 18 former detainees are confirmed and 43 suspected of “returning to the fight.”

He said the figures, updated at the end of December, showed a higher rate of recidivism than seen in a previous report showing 37 former detainees as active militants.

He provided no details about the detainees or their countries of origin.

“The overall known terrorist re-engagement rate has increased to 11 percent” from about 7 percent, Morrell said.

The numbers were generated by the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency based on fingerprints, photographs and intelligence reports, he said.

President-elect Barack Obama, who takes office on Tuesday, is expected to issue an executive order to close the Guantanamo Bay prison, possibly within his first week in office.

By Glenn

January 13, 2009 4:08 PM | Link to this

Why, Goodness, WhoCares:

That’s the best idea I’ve heard since I was in utero. Dump the chumps on Castro, and let him [them] sort them out. Heavens, I bet even Jimmy Carter could get behind that idea.

It’s brilliant.

By Why So Serious?

January 13, 2009 4:10 PM | Link to this

Interesting commentary. It seems that if one believes in America, and all the laws and rights herein, and in due process, and in our long-standing American system of justice, one would have no problem charging these men with the crimes for which they’re being held, allowing them a fair trial, and if convicted, a just sentence. If you’re against due process for the detainees, then it seems like you’re against America. Not very patriotic, IMO.

By Seriously

January 13, 2009 4:18 PM | Link to this

You ever tell your nag of a wife that you hate her, and then she starts acting all bummed and stuff for days? I have. Geez, what a thin-skinned $%^&#.

By Glenn

January 13, 2009 4:27 PM | Link to this

STFO, W[u}SS, or we’ll shove you under the wire in Cuba along with the rest.

Now, WhoCares:

As I was saying, it’s a stellar idea, strategically. It warrants a failsafe tactical plan, and mine would be to put them into a little flotilla of inflatables and have our coxswains announce to the perps, as the chiefs aspirate and spill backward into the Deep clutching their SCUBA masks, that the fugitives are welcome to attempt the crossing from the Bay of Pigs back to the Keys with or without the distributor caps on their leaky Evinrudes.

Subject to your approval, of course.

By Glenn

January 13, 2009 4:40 PM | Link to this

Sometimes I wonder whether every event in American life cannot be conveyed via Cole Porter. Out of loyalty to Georgia I’m willing to throw in Mercer and Ellington. I am. But this business with Bernard Madoff remaining under house arrest in his seven-million-dollar Manhattan apartment, I mean, it’s straight out of Porter’s “Down in the Depths”.

Was Cole Porter The American Nostradamus?

P.S. Please stop jacking @@. She’s incomparable.

By Glenn

January 13, 2009 4:50 PM | Link to this

Inimitable, even.

By Realast

January 13, 2009 4:55 PM | Link to this

Let Obama make them his yardmen. Slavery in reverse.

By @@

January 13, 2009 5:07 PM | Link to this

Dang Glenn! Every time I visit and find you here, I have to go ah-googlin’.

Ah-googlin’

Ah-googlin’

Ah-googlin’, I will go…….

In search of Cole Porter, “Down in the Depths”.

By Peter

January 13, 2009 5:15 PM | Link to this

Interesting reading today……….

Bush being considered one of the worst Presidents ever……… In the same article it mentions some of America’s Best President’s have followed some of the worst ever.

Thank God Republican’s are out !

By @@

January 13, 2009 5:28 PM | Link to this

Good heavens! Would you look at ————-> that! Right-hand margin, black and white.

Obama’s first poop may be a “labor”doodle.

Let’s hope it works or the alternative is a Portuguese water retrieval type which Obama has referred to as torture.

Glenn:

Even after I went ah-googlin’ I still don’t know what you’re talkin’ bout. I WILL go out on a limb here and say that my husband is in data processing?

By Glenn

January 13, 2009 5:47 PM | Link to this

Hi, @@:

I’m glad you take a ribbing so well, and my compliments to your husband. Does he understand what a writer you are?

Sorry about the obscurantism. My father was a jazz musician and I grew up with a headful of standards. Really I’ve never meant these stray musicological references as any sort of combat or competition. The tune in my head today, “Down in the Depths”, includes this funny verse:

“While the crowds in all the nightclubs punish the parquet,

And the bars are packed with couples calling for more,

I’m deserted and depressed

In my regal-eagle nest,

Down in the depths

of the ninetieth floor”.

Hence the reference to Madoff.

By dave

January 13, 2009 5:59 PM | Link to this

They are in PRISON morons…if they are STILL in prison…be it here or in Cuba…what threat do they give or cause to anyone? He’s not letting them free….he’s going to move them to other PRISONS…

WOW! The FEAR from the right never lets up…

Let’s get this straight… those in prison..will STAY locked up! Where is the threat? Tell me morons!

By @@

January 13, 2009 6:09 PM | Link to this

O.K. Glenn, I’ll try to cheer you UP?

Madoff’s in…..90X8 (low ceiling height) = 720’ of deep doo doo?

Cheer up buddy! Scratch up the parquet. (ISH)

By mister.earl

January 14, 2009 9:40 AM | Link to this

“They think everything is related to Hamas. They think if they destroy the buildings, they will bring Hamas down,” Abdul Latif said. “But Hamas is not a building, or a mosque, or a school, or a police station. Hamas is people. Each and every house has Hamas people.

By Shawny

January 14, 2009 10:29 AM | Link to this

[WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Pentagon said on Tuesday that 61 former detainees from its military prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, appear to have returned to terrorism since their release from custody.

Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said 18 former detainees are confirmed as “returning to the fight” and 43 are suspected of having done in a report issued late in December by the Defense Intelligence Agency.](http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE50C5JX20090113?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true).

here we go… now justify the release again?

By thogwummpy

January 14, 2009 10:32 AM | Link to this

For “dave”…let’s spell this out for you reaaaaal slow so that you can grasp it (y’know, as this “moron” talks down to you). If you put the Gitmo detainees into a U.S. prison, you take a huge risk in having portions of American inmates becoming radicalized [especially imprisoned Muslims]…and when they are released after serving their terms, the newly radicalized Americans can cause widespread violence on our streets. This is tantemount to bringing vipers into your house, and letting their offspring roam freely.

Moreover, the ACLU obsession that terrorists are afforded Geneva protections—-is absurd. Also, if you put them on trial in U.S. courts; every case will be a mistrial based on the inability to present juries of their peers (and if you found international Muslims to seat on a jury, they’d automatically vote to release their jihadist brother regardless of the case).

So, “dave”…is logic still “moronic” to you?

By thogwummpy

January 14, 2009 10:41 AM | Link to this

OH…also…you put the Gitmo terrorists into the U.S. prison system; by law you’ve just given them U.S. Constitutional rights. By doing that, you’ve actually freed every one of them on the basis that they were not read Miranda rights when “arrested”…and if you think the ACLU doesn’t plan on using that, you’re delusional.

By AmVet

January 14, 2009 12:03 PM | Link to this

IF they do empty gitmo, they should fill it right back up with the innumerable crooks and swindlers on Wall Street, K Street and Main Street.

Any bets on whether the President Elect implements widespread prosecutions of these gangster capitalists?

NOT likely.

From what I’ve seen so far, he appears to be VERY corporate friendly and is not that far removed from some of the bailout babies.

Real change?

I guess the only silver lining is that in six days unquestionably the worst president in my lifetime, (Tricky Dick is laughing like hell from hell!) if not in the nation’s entire history, is going back to Texas to be a faux rancher instead of a faux leader…

01-20-09 The End of a National Disaster

By GaLiberal

January 14, 2009 12:37 PM | Link to this

Moron Jim said: The last place for them is on U.S. soil. There are many decisions that a President makes that start the clock running on their political capital leading, perhaps, to their ineffectiveness and ultimate rejection by voters. Mishandling terrorists is one of those.

What Moron Jim doesn’t tell you is that many - if not most - of these “detainees” were picked up under highly questionable conditions during the overly zealous reaction following 9/11. In some cases, it simply reported to the US occupiers that a person was an al-Qaida or Taliban sympathizer. No effort was made to determine the veracity of that statement. In other cases, it was because of something that person said or read without bothering to determine if there as an actual threat. Instead, Bush simply allowed the military to lock these people up without any ability to refute the evidence or have a fair and impartial hearing. These people were tortured for information they didn’t possess because they were never involved either al-Qaida or the Taliban. So your completely unfounded claims that PE Obama will be releasing “250 al-Qaida and Taliban fighters and loyalists” is complete b****** as is typical for a Rethuglicon butt-sniffer.

This situation is very similar to that following the attack on Pearl Harbor when several hundred Japanese were rounded up and “detained” for very specious reasons. The US was wrong then and it’s wrong now to continue to detain people that have done nothing wrong. The GITMO detention camp is completely antithetical to the basic human right of justice and innocent until PROVEN guilty. Of course, that concept is lost on jackbooted Rethuglicon fascists like MJ and his bobble head followers. Just read some of the nonsense posted here and it becomes very apparent these people are nothing more than small-minded racists hiding behind the appearance of patriotism. Typical of Rethuglicon butt-sniffers.

MJ just throws around numbers and makes statements as if they were factual yet provides no supporting information. Who has determined there are “250 al-Qaida and Taliban fighters and loyalists” at GITMO? How has that number been verified? When you ask these questions to Rethuglicon bobble heads like MJ, you get nothing but lies and spin.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And falsely claiming there are “250 al-Qaida and Taliban fighters and loyalists” detainees at GITMO is living proof.

By GaLiberal

January 14, 2009 12:40 PM | Link to this

Moron Jim said: The last place for them is on U.S. soil. There are many decisions that a President makes that start the clock running on their political capital leading, perhaps, to their ineffectiveness and ultimate rejection by voters. Mishandling terrorists is one of those.

What Moron Jim doesn’t tell you is that many - if not most - of these “detainees” were picked up under highly questionable conditions during the overly zealous reaction following 9/11. In some cases, it simply reported to the US occupiers that a person was an al-Qaida or Taliban sympathizer. No effort was made to determine the veracity of that statement. In other cases, it was because of something that person said or read without bothering to determine if there as an actual threat. Instead, Bush simply allowed the military to lock these people up without any ability to refute the evidence or have a fair and impartial hearing. These people were tortured for information they didn’t possess because they were never involved either al-Qaida or the Taliban. So your completely unfounded claims that PE Obama will be releasing “250 al-Qaida and Taliban fighters and loyalists” is complete b****** as is typical for a Rethuglicon butt-sniffer.

This situation is very similar to that following the attack on Pearl Harbor when several hundred Japanese were rounded up and “detained” for very specious reasons. The US was wrong then and it’s wrong now to continue to detain people that have done nothing wrong. The GITMO detention camp is completely antithetical to the basic human right of justice and innocent until PROVEN guilty. Of course, that concept is lost on jackbooted Rethuglicon fascists like MJ and his bobble head followers. Just read some of the nonsense posted here and it becomes very apparent these people are nothing more than small-minded racists hiding behind the appearance of patriotism. Typical of Rethuglicon butt-sniffers.

MJ just throws around numbers and makes statements as if they were factual yet provides no supporting information. Who has determined there are “250 al-Qaida and Taliban fighters and loyalists” at GITMO? How has that number been verified? When you ask these questions to Rethuglicon bobble heads like MJ, you get nothing but lies and spin.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And falsely claiming there are “250 al-Qaida and Taliban fighters and loyalists” detainees at GITMO is living proof.

By GaLiberal

January 14, 2009 12:55 PM | Link to this

This article is from the AJC:

**Pentagon official says 9/11 suspect was tortured WASHINGTON — A Pentagon official acknowledged in an interview published Wednesday that the United States tortured Mohammed al-Qahtani, a Saudi man who allegedly had hoped to become the “20th hijacker” in the Sept. 11 attacks.

“We tortured Qahtani,” said Susan J. Crawford, a retired judge who was appointed convening authority of military commissions in February 2007. Crawford was interviewed by The Washington Post’s Bob Woodward.

“In any instance in which the United States wishes to impose the death penalty, my opinion is that such a case requires clean hands on the part of the U.S.,” Broyles told The Associated Press in May.

U.S. authorities had acknowledged that al-Qahtani was subjected to waterboarding by CIA interrogators and that he was treated harshly at Guantanamo.

Al-Qahtani in October 2006 recanted a confession he said he made after he was tortured and humiliated at Guantanamo.

In the interview published by the Post on Wednesday, Crawford said: “His treatment met the legal definition of torture. And that is why I did not refer the case” for prosecution.**

So this is what the US became under the Rethuglicon bootheel of Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld. It’s a wonder we didn’t just gas them like the Nazi’s did Jews. Isn’t this a great country or what!

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And torturing people is living proof.