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DEL.ICIO.USTuesday’s lesson for 2010
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
After all that, the results from the runoff for the U.S. Senate seat held by Georgia’s Saxby Chambliss was about what it would have been had nobody spent a dime.
Thanks go to the partisan and to the advocacy groups for aiding the Georgia economy with their campaign stimulus checks. But the surprise in politics sometimes is how little money matters after the candidates and the stakes become known.
In this race, both incumbent Saxby Chambliss and challenger Jim Martin were sufficiently known and the stakes were more widely known to Georgians than the charges that put Michael Vick in the slammer were to dog lovers. Had Democrats gained a 60-seat filibuster-proof Senate, lower taxes, less government and center-right judges would have faced the prospects of a losing pit bull in Vick’s kennel. (Hey, different subject, but I’m ready to let Vick go; he’s paid a high price already.)
When the votes were counted in the U.S. Senate race where tons of bigwigs politicked and tons of money was spent, the outcome was essentially the Republican base vs. the Democratic base. In any statewide election, the Republican with any name-recognition should get 55 percent and the Democrat, 45. The GOP is the majority party, with a base of about 50. Democrats are 40-42. The candidates add or subtract a few percentage points.
For the seat on the Georgia Public Service Commission, a race that did not attract money or attention, Republican Lauren McDonald pulled 56.5 to 43.5 for Democrat Jim Powell.
Two messages can be drawn from the voting Tuesday and three weeks ago. One is that Barack Obama was wise not to return to Georgia for the runoff. He couldn’t have made a difference in the outcome.
The more important message is sent to Democrats planning to run for governor or for the U.S. Senate in Georgia in 2010. Under the best of circumstances, with a candidate at the top of the ticket who inspired masses of new voters, Democrats still could not carry the state in a presidential election. And, coming off that General Election, with organization and money to burn, they could not break out of the mid 40s. Barring scandal or some extraordinary turn, their prospects are not promising for 2010
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By The Way
December 3, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this
CNN just reported that one of Vick’s pit bulls just shot himself in the foot with an illegal handgun.
By Chris
December 3, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this
Since the left did not get their 60-seat supermajority, look for them, to quote General Sherman in his “March to the Sea”, to “make Georgia howl”. They will attack our churches, our radio stations, anything affiliated with FOX in this state (to whit Karen MaGinnis), and anyone who opposed their efforts.
Look for the new Civilian Security Force that was created to cause damage this state.
If you think that we can relax after this election, think again. The battle has only just begun.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
December 3, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. Friendly suggestion, Mr. Wooten, if you ever encounter Mrs. jbmlaw, don’t say anything about Michael Vick’s having paid a sufficiently high price. Even if I agree with you, I will remain mute on the subject. The lady, who knows and cares nothing about football, knows and cares about pit bulls (we just acquired our third pit, a pitiful abandoned creature with a broken hip, brought to our vet by animal control.) Even out cat feels sorry for the dog, who is recovering nicely, thanks.
To the subject, I am inclined toward thinking posited by our friend Southern Democrat yesterday. I think Mr. Martin’s handicap was not his party label, it was his ideology. Despite his best efforts to conceal his beliefs, Mr. Chambliss successfully tied Mr. Martin to partial birth abortion, and by undenied extension, to all of the other most extreme leftist beliefs. I think “conservatives,” not necessarily “republicans,” start with a base of 55% in Georgia. Mr. Chambliss ran into trouble as his “conservative” identity was plausibly challenged. Mr. Isakson has the same potential problem. I note our host’s commentary appropriately focused on the gubernatorial race in 2010, rather than the Senate race.
Were I responsible for Georgia democrat races in 2010, I would urge a slate of near-libertarian candidates, as they present the most electable beliefs compatible with the sensibilities of most Georgia democrats. An alternative approach would use something like the old Clintonian “triangulation” strategy, embracing lines suggested by Chief Justice Sears’s activism on family issues.
By red state antonym
December 3, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
Who cares. Georgia is irrelevant on the national level, along with the rest of the southern morons like Miss, Alabama, Louisiana, South Carol, Tenn and Kentucky. The only place the south matters is on the College Football field.
By Redneck Convert
December 3, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
Well, I sellabrated old Saxby’s win with a couple or three PBRs last night. Now we can block everything the librul Democrats try and do and blame Congress for not getting anything done. By 2010 we will be able to blame the bad economy on them. Pretty soon the voters will forget the recession happened on the GOP’s watch. Thank God the voters of the U.S. of A. are dumb as a bag of hammers.
Anyhow, I’m still putting my extra money in my cement vault to keep the Pelousy woman’s hands off of it. If they pass this bill to give voters a income tax rebate, I’ll take the money but complain about how we are going into debt big-time. And I’ll give all the highway and bridge workers the finger when they start working on make-work projects with our tax money.
Leastwise beer sales is still going good and my 401k is OK because it’s in the stocks of beer cos. The rest of the people can go hang, far as I’m concerned. That’s the Republican opinion, that’s my opinion, and it’s all very true. We ain’t your Mommy and we ain’t your Daddy, so get out there and fend for yourself.
I was awful happy to see @@ return to the blog yesterday. I bet her students were without a good whipping all the time she was gone. They were probly being taught by some librul wuss.
Have a good day everybody.
By Manny
December 3, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this
Yes. Georgia has confirmed that it is indeed a Southern, Red state. Just like Mississippi, Arkansas, Alabama, etc. No surprises there at all.
Congratulations.
By deegee
December 3, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this
If it was such a foregone conclusion then why in the hell was Saxby in a runoff? Georgia has a large republican base. What else is new?
By ron
December 3, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
Good morning,You surprised me.You wrote a fairly lucid commentary this morning.You saw the election for what it was,a Republican victory in a Republican state.Nothing else to be expected.I will disagree with you on one minor point.I think the appearance of Al Gore cost Jim Martim votes.
I will now disagree with you on a major point.We do not let Vick go.The man was given the world on a platter and he squandered every opportunity.He is where he belongs.He is of a certain culture that we cannot afford to let flourish.It is not yet certain that Simpson is going to join him,but he should.Plaxico Burress is trying hard to compete with them as reprehensible person of the sports year.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
December 3, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
Correction to my 8:37 post, Jim Wooten did not focus on the 2010 gubernatorial race, he gave equal emphasis to both races. Excessive coffee stimulation caused me to vibrate past the US Senate commentary.
Dr. Williams has one of those cynically-amusing essays today about [the many things college seniors do not know }(http://townhall.com/columnists/WalterEWilliams/2008/12/03/ignorancereignssupreme ) based on a CDC-like survey.
By red state antonym
December 3, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
Martin wasn’t going to win because Blacks were not going back to the polls. Frankly, we were sick of all the ads and are just glad the elections are over. I voted but most others did not. Most of us don’t think a filibuster-proof majority is good for the country anyway. If Obama’s policies and decisions are thoughtful and intelligently vetted then the Repubs won’t have anything to filibuster about. We’ll see what happens.
By The Way
December 3, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
Vick and Burress should be sent to the same NFL team as Q and Wide out. How about the Lions? They are as bad now as any team has ever been. Pay them scale unless they start winning. Then honor their million $ contracts.
As for handguns, and pitbulls, I dont know if pitbulls have souls, or even if handguns have souls, but they do expose the soul in the bro, (OMG. I just thug-rapped again).
By getalife
December 3, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
THE BAILOUT “IS NOT ACCOUNTABLE TO AMERICAN TAXPAYERS”
Well GA, you had an opportunity to fire suxby to get the only accountability you will get but you sent the message that the bailouts and destruction of your country is okay.
Way to go GA.
Pathetic.
By Redbeard
December 3, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
Karma. For the left wing liberal garbage who yesterday on this blog stated that Southern/Red states are becoming less and less important in national elections, take this election and run it up where the sun doesn’t shine. Two Red states, NC and IN, went blue due to the ignorance of youth — college kids. Even then, there weren’t any blowouts. I would encourage the same moonbats who made those comments yesterday to please keep it up. Tell us how Conservatism is dead, Red states are dead, blah blah. Go ahead and please keep running your ignoranuses. Karma — and the big pendulum of life — always has a way of paying ill wishes back and swinging back the other way.
By DW
December 3, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
Congratulations to Sen. Chambliss. However, he ran a shameless and dishonorable campaign. Johnny Isakson would be wise to run on his record, as opposed to lies and distortion like Sen. Chambliss.
By GaLiberal
December 3, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
Moron Jim said: But the surprise in politics sometimes is how little money matters after the candidates and the stakes become known.
Moron Jim has proven himself to be a moron with this idiotic statement. Of course money matters. It matters because it allowed ol’ Shameless to get his message of lies and fear mongering to voters. It allowed all these PACs to put out their own ads of outright bald-face lies about Jim Martin and Democrats in general. And as we all know that a lie oft repeated soon becomes the truth. Particularly amongst the short attention span, religoNazi, bigoted, gun-toting crowd that is ol’ Shameless’ reliable core voting group.
It’s very telling that Georgia voters, the same ones that voted of the out-of-touch-but-at-least-he’s-white John McCain, has again fallen back into the obstructionist and partisan mode. Hell with the economy and what’s good for the country. Just as long as that non-white person they call President-elect doesn’t get people that will work with him. We want to make sure he fails so in 2012 we can again lie and mudsling our way back into the White House. I’m sure history will not judge Georgia kindly over re-electing ol’ Shameless. But then, Georgia is usually on the wrong side of history.
When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And the re-election of Saxby Shameless is living proof.
By ramblwrk68
December 3, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
Republicans had better be planning on a House strategy for 2010, and not a White House strategy for 2012! They need to find vulnerable Democrat House seats and go after them big-time! Look at Democrat districts where McCain won, for instance. Or, the ones they’ve lost the last two cycles. And, FGS, have a coherent message!!!
In 2010, W won’t be around as a drag anymore, but lots of liberal Dems will be.
By red state antonym
December 3, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
Conservatism is dead. Conservatism is dead. Conservatism is dead. Conservatism is dead. Conservatism is dead. Conservatism is dead. Is that enough for you?
By GaLiberal
December 3, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
Moron Jim said: But the surprise in politics sometimes is how little money matters after the candidates and the stakes become known.
Moron Jim has proven himself to be a moron with this idiotic statement. Of course money matters. It matters because it allowed ol’ Shameless to get his message of lies and fear mongering to voters. It allowed all these PACs to put out their own ads of outright bald-face lies about Jim Martin and Democrats in general. And as we all know that a lie oft repeated soon becomes the truth. Particularly amongst the short attention span, religoNazi, bigoted, gun-toting crowd that is ol’ Shameless’ reliable core voting group.
It’s very telling that Georgia voters, the same ones that voted of the out-of-touch-but-at-least-he’s-white John McCain, has again fallen back into the obstructionist and partisan mode. Hell with the economy and what’s good for the country. Just as long as that non-white person they call President-elect doesn’t get people that will work with him. We want to make sure he fails so in 2012 we can again lie and mudsling our way back into the White House. I’m sure history will not judge Georgia kindly over re-electing ol’ Shameless. But then, Georgia is usually on the wrong side of history.
When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And the re-election of Saxby Shameless is living proof.
By DB, Gwinnettian
December 3, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
I’d think a third message from this exercise is whether the whole notion of funding a run-off is a good use of public resources in the first place. Might that be worth looking into?
By Truthifier
December 3, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Chris at 8:30am you are a lunatic.
By The Truth
December 3, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
I really had no dog in this fight as I backed Buckley in the previous vote. And I really like Isakson and would vote for him again as he goes across the aisle to try to work on solutions for the common good not one constituency. But re-electing Saxby is just incredulous to me beyond the main scare tactic of the “60 seat majority” which the Republicans had for years. This man never once ran on his record which was a rubber stamp for W and his big business lobbyist buddies. He simply dragged the dirt out on Martin and dumped his frat brother like he was nothing. This man is an abomination and will do or say anything to get elected while his voting record shows little if no accomplishment. If there was a title for “mr. Pandering”, he would win it and retire it for good.
Saxby is a perfect example along with Harry Reid to what is wrong with politics and ‘the system’ today. My home state is so blind……
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
The now lame dog, identified only as Pit Bull, Bitsch, was spirited from the scene by volunteers from the Civilian Security Force. Authorities there indicate that the canine, now on the mend, has implicated more than a dozen of Vick’s hangers-on in allegations ranging from Reckless Endangerment with Wingbone to multiple counts of Conspiracy to Transport Canines across State Lines for Purposes of Breeding. “It was the Spitz all along!” Ms. Bull called out to reporters yesterday, clearly uncomfortable in her orange jumpsuit.
By mm
December 3, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
Saxby winning just proves that a majority of Georgians are morons.
Also, if you research the history of the election runoff, it was implemented to prevent blacks from winning elections.
Is GA the only state doing it? I don’t know, but it certainly shows that GA is still a redneck racist state.
By daved'
December 3, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
I’m with you mm. As the majority of the country has had enough of the repulsivicans and their illegal wars, huge deficits and spending, breaking of laws, pardons for criminals like Scooter Libby, etc…. GA morons still vote on TWO issues… gay marriage and abortion…well, ABORTION is STILL legal, and GAYS are STILL gay! For ANYONE reading this that voted for BUSH (twice), I can only hope you’ve lost your job or that you are suffering economic hardship…you deserve to…you “voted” for those things… GA: LAST in education and ALWAYS showing it!
By Jonathan Albrecht
December 3, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
Jim does a disservice to Georgians. Given enough time and money to educate them, even Georgians can learn to vote for good government and political and social progress i.e. democratic. May take a generation. But for the second time in 70 years, Republican principles have been in Alan Greenspan’s words “found fatally flawed”. Most Americans learned that a third opportunity should not be in the cards.
By Peter
December 3, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Jim says more CRAP each day…………
“Had Democrats gained a 60-seat filibuster-proof Senate, lower taxes, less government and center-right judges would have faced the prospects of a losing pit bull in Vick’s kennel.”
Jim we have the largest government, the largest debt, the largest bailout’s in the history of the WORLD…….
ALL REPUBLICAN MAKING………
You and the column is a JOKE !
By zeke
December 3, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Good! Can we eliminate liberals and democrats? Liberalism is a horrible disease! The biggest threat to tuhe USA is liberalism!
By ron
December 3, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
Dear Ragnar @ 8:50——-As suggested I read Dr. Williams column this morning.I have read similar statistics before.I now know the answers to most of the questions posed but I am not certain that I knew them while I was attending classes.Since I graduated I have learned a lot of different things in the world of hard knocks.I remember that the Battle of Hastings took place in 1066,probably a hold over from lessons and I also now know that the Klein Bottle is likely an answer to as a yet unasked question.My problem is that I don’t know what to do with this information.I sit here stuffed solid full of tidbits of learning that are absolutely worthless to me in my daily existence.
By Fred
December 3, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
Don’t tell me that Saxby ran a reprehensible campaign; they both did. Don’t tell me that Saxby voted for the bailout; most Democrats did, and Martin would’ve as well. And don’t talk to me about GOP deficits; the Dems have plans to make them even bigger. And most of all, don’t tell about what ignorant rednecks we all are for voting Saxby in; check the story about the top Google searches and you’ll see ignorance is hardly exclusive to the South, and I’ll bet a bunch of those folks are Obama voters too.
By AmVet
December 3, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
Redbeard, I concur.
American conservatism is NOT dead.
It just hasn’t been seen in the GOP for thirty years or more.
And IMHO your assertion that Southern/Red states are NOT becoming less and less important in national elections merely confirms the fact that 20% of all people will believe ANYTHING. Even that W was a fine president.
The GOP now has no real choice but to lurch back from the far-right lunatic fringe. But, being the exceptionally slow learners they apparently are, they will not likely do so until they get slaughtered in a few more November elections.
As it should be…
By Really...
December 3, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
mm and daved
I don’t believe that 1.2 million Georgians are morons, but this is your position and your beliefs. Let me share mine.
The history of elections? This was a statewide vote and should not be all inclusive of every election regardless of your personal belief.
daved - We will disagree on the “illegal” wars and breaking of laws. Pardoning criminals is something that each President has done, including Clinton.
I don’t believe gay marriage will ever be legal in GA considering the most liberal large state (other than NY) voted against it.
Abortion is a federal issue and does not need to be brought up in this discussion.
Losing your job? Are you really happy about people losing their job and suffering hardship? I hope that you are never laid off or suffer the hardship that many Americans are experiencing today.
I agree on GA education. It’s not last…yet… GA Department of Education is trying really hard to make it happen however…
By demodog
December 3, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
I’d like to nominate Wooten for the Pundit’s Convoluted Logic Award, or perhaps the Hidebound Ostrich Prize for his bizarre logic: Chamblis grossly outspends Martin, wins big. Therefore that proves money didn’t matter? Remarkable
By Grumpy
December 3, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
A Chambliss victory was had at the expense of the truth. Martin’s mistake was being too nice. When you find yourself in a knife fight, you better have a gun. Chambliss did, again, what he did to Max Cleland — he empolyed a group of campaign strategists that left the truth at the front door steps and used downright lies to win. As Georgia GOP’s Alec Poitevant noted, “This all about winning…nothing more.”
Martin was too weak to win a fight with a man who never let the truth get in the way of taking care of his friends. When not on the golf courses all over Washingto, D.C., Chambliss will continue his efforts to take care of the rich at the expense of the poor.
Georgia, you deserve what you get.
By southfulton
December 3, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Most democrats felt like they did enough on Nov. 4th and what’s one more seat when the democrats already have a majority. I have NO close friends who voted yesterday and we are all democrats. And even though I voted for Martin, I’m not sure a filibuster majority is good for government.
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
The very thought of a hidebound ostrich, Mate, I tell you.
Only you Smithsonian Yanks would put up with such an image…
…wot?…
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
December 3, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
Dear ron @ 10:19, broadly agree. I posted Dr. Williams’s piece more for the humor than for the substance. There is a part of me that says, “if people don’t know much about government processes, that surely means the government is not screwing up their lives too badly, and that is a good thing.” Of course there is also a part of me that is distressed by the endlessly growing government, and its seemingly never-ending desire to dissolve all freedom and private wealth either through taxation or inflation or regulation. If you “sit here stuffed solid full of tidbits of learning that are absolutely worthless … in … daily existence,” either you aren’t playing enough trivial pursuit, or you are not profitably using your MBA/JD.
By ProudRepublican!
December 3, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
Now the worst will come to pass. Soon, Barack HUSSEIN OSAMA!! will send ACORN SHOCK TROOPS to our homes in BLACK HELICOPTERS to make us all get gay married!! The UN NEW WORLD ORDER JACK BOOTED THUGS will take over and make America not be America anymore.
I will be in my backwoods compound with my Y2K provisions (who’s laughing now libs), my HOLY BIBLE, and my copy of Nailin’ Palin to protect myself from this SOCIALEST onslaught against my FREEDOMS.
By HIDT
December 3, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
The result was as expected. The runoff itself was purely a function of Obama turnout and a third party candidate in the race. None of those suffiiciently motivated to turn out for Obama would be similarly motivated to turnout for Jim Martin, even if the president-elect had come to Georgia.
I think jbmlaw is correct on the conservative vs. Republican issue .. I think. Maybe. Pretty much all rural and suburban politicians in Georgia are conservative. Many of them have switched from Democrat to Republican. Those who have stayed are still conservative by most any measure. Are Mark Taylor and Cathy Cox flaming liberals? Don’t think so. But neither one of them could have defeated the lightweight (figuratively), corrupt incumbent.
Well, I’m building my platform to run against Isakson. Using 6x6s for the supports, then 2x6s for the flooring and 2x4s for the rails.
Oh, and did anyone notice our new Court of Appeals judge is hot? I did.
By shyril
December 3, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
A Republican ran and won in a Republican state. Nothing more. Nothing less. Saxby Chambliss will continue to represent the old Southern agenda. I am confident the new president will be able to govern effectively without his vote. While 60 would have been great he will have no trouble governing without it!
By Peter
December 3, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
Hey Zeke……..you are funny today !!!!!
By zeke
December 3, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Good! Can we eliminate liberals and democrats? Liberalism is a horrible disease! The biggest threat to tuhe USA is liberalism!
Hey Zeke………
We need to get Rid of REPUBLICAN’S……Why ?
“Faulty Intelligence ” ! Or shall we say Flay out liars !
By GOP is gone
December 3, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
But Jim do not forget that we have aced the “Internet based Voter” exam. Next time we can hopefully bring out more voters. You definitely win the “Got to vote for whom I was told” award and could get more people to the polls this time. However, the better man lost, and “Big Daddy” is back to line his pockets and those of the lobbyists.
By The True Facts
December 3, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
I have heard the same story from most Georgia Republicans. They don’t want a rubber stamp democratic government. That checks and balances are needed—so PLEASE do not have 60 democratic senators in congress. Yet, on the other hand, they are pleased to see a rubber stamp Republican majority in the Georgia state house, senate,—down to the local government. What hypocrites!
By Churchill's MOM
December 3, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
Only a fool would get between Saxby and an Ethanol Subsidity.. Saxby is a CONSERVATIVE like Ted Stevens & William Jefferson.
By Old Vet
December 3, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
Hold onto your wallets. With Saxby shoveling tax money to agribusiness and other corporate giants and Bubba doing the Southern company’s bidding and screwing ocnsumers, our taxes AND utility rates are going up. Oh, well, at least the taliban didn’t make it to the court of appeals - yet.
By @@
December 3, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
Alrighty Gentleman Jim…….our roadblock is installed for six years.
More relevant to my neck of the GA backwoods, we elected a former headmaster to a Christian Academy and a former law enforcement individual to sit on Clayton County’s B.O.E. I’m not sure what qualifications the law enforcement guy possesses (not my district), but since we’re losing one student a week to gun violence, who knows? Maybe he’ll bring something worthwhile.
We’re on a roll.
By Roland
December 3, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
AN INTERESTING FACT FROM YOUR COLLEAGUE MRS.CYNTHIA TUCKER MR. WOOTEN,
Had everyone who voted for Barack Obama in Georgia “looked” down the ballet to vote for Martin, this election would have been over on Novemeber 4th.
BEING A POLI SCI MAJOR MYSELF, I CAN TELL YOU THAT POLITICANS BANK ON THE IGNORANCE OF THEIR CITIZENS. MOST VOTERS FOR BOTH OBAMA AND MCCAIN DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF SENATE MAJORITY AND ALL THAT.
The LESSON Mr. Wooten is that with the Obama political machine officially in power this will be the last time this happens again. Chambliss escaped a bullet. This is a REPUBLICAN state that he should have WON on November 4th…
By David S
December 3, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
How ironic it is that at the end of my ballot I was asked “are you satisfied with your choices for this election?” Of course I am not satisfied. I would have been satisfied if I had the chance to vote for somebody for Senate other than a man who will likely rubberstamp every socialist policy the new dictator will propose or an incumbent who forcefully stuck up his middle finger to all of his constituents and voted in favor of turing over the economy to the very people who destroyed it in the first place (the Federal Reserve). Calls to his office were running at least 20 to one against the so-called “bailout” yet he didn’t care about the future of america, the dollar, or the likelihood of a worse depression than the 30’s.
Saxby needed to be taught a lesson yesterday, but electing Martin was probably the worst way this state could have punished him.
If there ever was an election where none of the above would have been the better choice, this was it.
Sucksby’s campaign clearly shows once again that “the only thing Republicans have to fear is the end of fear itself.”
By J K
December 3, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
Help me understand why a voter should support the current policy?
Debt does not matter and we can finance tax cuts and spend like drunken sailors without worrying about revenue to cover the bill
A trade policy that makes us co-dependent on Communist China for pruducts and debt
An Energy policy that makes us co-dependent on the Middle East and supports scams like bio-fuels
A social policy based on bashing gay people ie hate your neighbor
A foreign policy based on entanglements and police work that is bankrupting our countries and living our best and bravest behind
An education policy that favors lobbyist over students
I could go on and on!
The real issue is will the GOP get back to a pragmatic policy making with real conservative roots or will it become the party of gut level politics with hacks in charge?
As I have said in the past, it looks like Erick and the band will move the GOP into a small regional party that stop providing any balance to our country unless we get some real adult supervision.
By FUBU
December 3, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
Who’d have thought that Martin would lose when he had the good judgment to have Ludacris (who embodies the values of ALL Georgia voters) campaigning for him?
What were voters thinking?
By Bubba
December 3, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
Yes - thanks to all of you who voted for Chambliss. Now we have a liberal in the Senate who has no power and represents no conservative principles.
You’ve really done yourselves proud tonight electing a truly influential Washington leader. At least Martin was honest for a politician.
By REAL Georgia Democrat
December 3, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
Rand Knight overreached just a tad with his Senate bid this year, but look for him to be a player when the Georgia Democratic Party leaders decide to pull their heads out of their a—es. (I’m giving then until noon tomorrow, then bringing in the forceps.) Highly-educated, bright, personable, charismatic Democrats DO exist! People of integrity (a quality lost on Vernon Jones) who are passionate and fearless (enough to run for Senate first time out), and who truly care about taking the people of Georgia OFF the bottom of every list and improving our economy and schools, while preserving the beauty, traditions, and natural resources that Georgians value.
Saxby won on FEAR, and that’s not saying much for Saxby. (Admit it, Wooten, you don’t really even like the guy.) A new day will come for Georgia. Not today, but soon, so keep your heads up!!
By Jim K
December 3, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
Are you thanking Saxby for his helping drive our national debt to 11 trillion and climbing? Are you thanking Saxby for putting tax payers on the hook for an out of control tax payer backed loan programs forcing a massive tax payer bailout? Are you thanking Saxby for an energy bill that promotes the bio fuel scam? Are you thanking Saxby for the failed lobbyist driven No Child Left Behind that left are children behind?
I thank God for things like the health of my family not Saxby!
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Yeah but @@,
As a great Lothario once asked, what’s all that got to do with chickens — or, pitbulls?
By Peter
December 3, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
After the REPUBLICAN’S have bankrupted the entire country……
How is the US dollar going to be worth ANYTHING ?
How is anyone’s House going to be worth anything ?
How is anyone going to find food?
Let’s make sure a FEW folks, the one’s who caused all the PAIN get bailed out though !
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
AmVet you punk,
What’re you doing, pronouncing the Death of American Conservatism? Ain’t I a Conservative?
The gold waters run deep, and the man dies hard…
As a great person is wont to say,
Sheesh!
By ron
December 3, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
I see that Saxby is now saying that Republicans need to return to their Reagan roots.I wonder if it ever occurred to the gentleman that the words return and back are not the words that voters want to hear?These are words designed to keep Republicans mired in the South while waiting for a Democrat implosion.Which may not happen any time soon,Saxby.Are you willing to wait it out?Apparently you are.
People want some of the Republican values in their elected representatives,but they also expect different ideas from them today.People want jobs.They want a wage they can live on.They want a home of their own and they want a retirement after their work years are done.Inbetween they want affordable health care.Some of these desires are alien to Republican thinking,but unless they want to be the party in waiting,they had better take a look at providing these wants.Keep hammering against Social Security and wages and health care boys and see where it gets you.People genuinely want these things and they’re willing to put up with more government to get them.
Peple have grown very impatient with their elected officials and they may not take much more.
By duward
December 3, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
the tax and spend democrat comes up short against the don’t tax and spend anyway republican.
By AmVet
December 3, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
AmVet you punk,
What’re you doing, pronouncing the Death of American Conservatism?
Actually, Mr. G., if you reread I pronounced the Rip van Winkleism of it.
Notwithstanding that the sheep in the “base” believe the shysters and frauds in the GOP who hijacked it, repackaged it to the point of non-recognition and renamed it neo-conservatism.
An ideology so utterly abysmal that it makes even the most miserable, far-left liberal leanings look rational in comparison…
By BS Aplenty
December 3, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
I’m content that Sen. Chambliss was reinstituted for another six years. Content in the knowledge that he’ll continue to support such horrific institutions like GA agriculture and GA business. Lord, he may even go to bat for the poultry industry. What a turd, let’s string him up.
Sorry, I left the Sarcasm key “on” on my keyboard…
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
Seriously, AmVet,
As ambivalent as you are and have good reason to be, how do you feel about the prospect of rebuilding the Party of Whoever on Goldwaterism? They’re so reduced now, just as Peggy Noonan hoped last year they would be, that maybe the remaining ones are ready to get real about minimalism?
By Peadawg
December 3, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
Thank God Chambliss won! Thank God!!!!! Thank God the dems won’t have total control!!!
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
December 3, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
In a post guaranteed to inflame half of our bloggers, Taranto provides his analysis of the Georgia election yesterday:
Democrats will fall short of a 60-seat Senate supermajority in the 111th Congress. Unofficial results, with 97% of precincts reporting, show Sen. Saxby Chambliss with a wide lead over challenger Jim Martin, 57.4% to 42.6%, in Georgia’s runoff election. Chambliss’s victory assures the GOP of at least 41 Senate seats. It also lays to rest one of the nastiest McCarthyite smears of recent times: the repeated assertion by Democrats and the media that former senator Max Cleland’s patriotism is in question.
Cleland was seeking a second term in 2002 when Chambliss ran against him. Chambliss criticized Cleland’s voting record—specifically, his repeated votes against the legislation that created the Department of Homeland Security. Cleland and fellow Democrats objected to provisions in the law that gave the new department more vis-à-vis union work rules. Chambliss accused Cleland of cravenly pandering to special interests.
Democrats, unable to defend Cleland’s position on the merits, falsely accused Chambliss of questioning Cleland’s patriotism—and thereby introduced into the debate the notion that Cleland’s patriotism was in question. In fact, although Cleland might not have distinguished himself as a U.S. senator, he served courageously in the battlefield in Vietnam, so that his patriotism should be above reproach. As we noted in 2003, Cleland was awarded the Silver Star for gallantry in action at Khe Sanh. His citation reported:
When the battalion command post came under a heavy enemy rocket and mortar attack, Capt. Cleland, disregarding his own safety, exposed himself to the rocket barrage as he left his covered position to administer first aid to his wounded comrades. He then assisted in moving the injured personnel to covered positions. Continuing to expose himself, Capt. Cleland organized his men into a work party to repair the battalion communications equipment which had been damaged by enemy fire. His gallant action is in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service, and reflects great credit upon himself, his unit, and the United States Army.
Four days later, Cleland lost an arm and both legs in a grenade accident. In 2004, in a grotesque bit of political theater, John Kerry’s campaign wheeled Cleland out in Crawford, Texas, to “deliver a letter” to President Bush complaining that some Vietnam veterans who supported Bush were saying mean things about Kerry.
As we noted at the time, Kerry, as an antiwar extremist in 1971, had boasted of hatching the idea of exploiting the handicapped for political purposes. “I called the media… . I said, ‘If I take some crippled veterans down to the White House and we chain ourselves to the gates, will we get coverage?’ ‘Oh, yes, we will cover that,’ ” he told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. The president, to his credit, ignored the spectacle.
This year, Democrats hoped to exact revenge for Cleland’s 2002 loss by defeating Chambliss. Had Martin prevailed, there’s little doubt his fellow Democrats would have claimed vindication for their McCarthyite effort to smear Cleland as a man whose patriotism is in question. Chambliss’s win therefore should be seen as a victory for civility and decency in politics.
By Gator Joe
December 3, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
Wooten: I disagree, the lessons learned are:
1.The majority of white, Georgia voters are narrow-minded and racist, thus explaining the presidential election results.
2.If these same voters voted for this racist, draft/combat avoiding, chickenhawk when he ran a disgraceful race against Max Cleland, a decorated combat veteran, then this election would be no different.
By chastity
December 3, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
Lessons learned for Republicans:
1) Don’t act like Democrats.
2) Don’t appease Democrats; they will despise you no matter what.
3) Stand up for yourselves and fight lies and attacks from your foes and don’t give a damn what others think..
4) Return to your traditional Conservative values that garnered even the center of this nation.
Reality for Liberal democrats:
1) Not everyone shares your beliefs in this nation; deal with it.
2) Not everyone thinks like you in this nation; deal with it. (I use the term “think” loosely because Liberal democrats emotionally react more than they think).
3) You look foolish and childish by stating that Red states who didn’t vote Democrat/Obama or Georgians that didn’t vote for Martin are haters and/or ignorant.
4) Obama is picking a lot of Hawks and Centrists and your left wingnut blogosphere is off the chain in anger. Did you people really believe this nation would embrace a far left liberal ideology? Run on a liberal platform and see how far you get next time.
5) A lot of Democrats voted for Saxby — the smart ones knew that had a full filibuster proof Pelosi congress been allowed to run amok, the people would rebel in two years.
California is always a barometer of the future of this nation. Companies and the productive people have left that state in droves, leaving it in a crisis. Insane regulations, taxes, and other interests drawn up by the Left have all but ruined that once great state, which is blue and worth 55 electoral votes. Red states were mentioned here earlier. Does any Liberal democrat want to explain why every single foreign car manufacturer that has come over to the US care to explain why they have chosen Red states to settle in? For the uneducated Obama voters who didn’t even know that Democrats controlled congress, that means: BMW; Mercedes; Toyota; Honda; Kia; Hyundai.
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
“Kerry, as an antiwar extremist in 1971, had boasted of hatching the idea of exploiting the handicapped for political purposes. “I called the media… . I said, ‘If I take some crippled veterans down to the White House and we chain ourselves to the gates, will we get coverage?’ ‘Oh, yes, we will cover that.’”
I regret to report that this precise maneuver is known, in the California Statehouse, as the “Gimps in the Gallery Ploy”. Especially under condition of legislative term limits, with virtual Freshmen ever running the show into the ground, it continues to work without fail.
Fools never have a clue what hit them…
By Fred
December 3, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
Ragnar, the only thing that should be seen from yesterday’s election is this is still Georgia and Georgia is still the most backward state in the country.
By Peadawg
December 3, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
Gator Joe, you need to shut up about all this racist bs.
Why am I racist because I vote republican? I’ve always voted republican because my values and republican’s value are the same. If Obama was a republican, I would have voted for him BECAUSE HE’S REPUBLICAN.
By Plumber Joe
December 3, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
disregard for the enviornment, and a declining economy.
Gator Joe, the further north you go out of Atlanta, the cleaner the Hooch gets. Greater Atlanta is run by Democrats and pipes under their streets have been dumping sewage and pollution into the Hooch for eons. Next time you want to look uneducated, post that crap on the Huffington Post, okay? It will smell better around here, that’s for sure.
By AmVet
December 3, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
G,
ANY party that repudiates the 99% wrong Cheney Doctrine, the empire-building Bush Doctrine, the BIG INTRUSIVE government Reagan Doctrine and the worst aspects (including the line item veto) of the Contract On America, no matter the party name is one that I could ultimately support.
ANY party that pulls it collective head out of its @ss regarding the perils of man-induced climate change and giving a free ride to the worst of the anti-environment/money before everything else crowd, no matter the party name is one that I could ultimately support.
ANY party that is willing to once and for all end the attempted corporate destruction of capitalism and throw the crooks and swindlers on Wall Street, K Street and main street in prison where they belong, AFTER MAKING THEM PAY FOR THE BAILOUT WITH THEIR ILL-GOTTEN FILTHY LUCRE, no matter the party name is one that I could ultimately support.
ANY party that is willing to keep their mythology and deities out of the White House, state house and public schools is one, no matter the party name is one that I could ultimately support.
ANY party that for even a few minutes is not completely “bribeable” and thoroughly corrupted from top to bottom no matter the party name is one that I could ultimately support.
In other words the virtual antithesis of the current hemorrhaging RepubliCON Party.
And BTW much of the above applies to the spineless Democrats as well…
By Ga Values
December 3, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
I have a number of friends who voted for Saxby knowing he is a crook & Jim Martin is honest, they can’t explain it they just did it but life goes on. I undersand Saxby got about $6 million from Lobbyist in the last 3 weeks if they get only a 100:1 return the taxpayer will be out another $600 million in Saxby earmarks. Here’s a good read from they NYT about how badly the taxpayer is being take with the $7 TRILLION bail out Wall Street.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/business/economy/03views.html?dlbk
By Art
December 3, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
Saxby winning this thing yesterday is really worth not even a hill of beans. All Saxby will be in the U.S. Senate is someone taking up office space and drawing a paycheck. No influence whatsoever. There will be plenty of moderate republican senators willing to be that fillibuster proof vote when it is all said and done. But it will be fun for at least the next 4 years hearing the slow learners among the surviving GOP senators braying like donkeys and making fools of themselves.
By Ga Values
December 3, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
Ragnar Danneskjöld 12:50 PM
“Chambliss’s win therefore should be seen as a victory for civility and decency in politics”
EVEN DUSTY IS NOT THIS STUPID
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this
AmVet,
Come on, man. I know that you’re p** off. Fine. We’ve heard the rant. But this is a new day, for the country (thank God), and also even for the defeated party. How would you recommend the latter rebuild, if we’re to regain some kind of adversarial dynamic from which to gain?
By Plumber Joe is a MORON
December 3, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
“Gator Joe, the further north you go out of Atlanta, the cleaner the Hooch gets.” D’OH! Isn’t that true of most south-running rivers?
“Greater Atlanta is run by Democrats and pipes under their streets have been dumping sewage and pollution into the Hooch for eons.” Are you going to tell us that the ill-advised, though profitable (for the initiators, that is) OVERDEVELOPMENT of the Northern suburban sprawl, without regard to infrastructure, environmental concerns, and constant construction runoff, does not make the Hooch dirty? Come north of Atlanta, Joe the MORON, where Dems are NOT in charge. It’s filthy up there too. Just like your sludge-filled brain.
By @@
December 3, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this
Awwhhhh, is the Blum of your rosey reds AmVet?
The Obama Bummer
Okay, let’s get the obvious out of the way. It was historic. I choked up a number of times, tears came to my eyes, even though I didn’t vote for him. I voted for Ralph Nader for the fourth time in a row.
At the moment I have nothing better to offer than that. God help us.
Nope! can’t be you since he asked for God’s help.
Glenn:
And what womanizer would that be that talks chickens and pitbulls?
By Gator Joe
December 3, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
No thanks, the Atlanta area is fine. I’m more comfortable among Liberals, like myself, who think for themselves, serve in the military, care about the poor, the health and education of children and the enviornment. By the way, after moving up from Florida, I’ve found that there are differences among rednecks. Georgia rednecks, like yourself, make Fla. rednecks look like Rhodes scholars.
By Tom
December 3, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
When Saxby gave his acceptance speech he spoke of representing Georgia’s conservative values. What are the conservative values he speaks of anymore? Really want to know what people think they are.
By Peadawg
December 3, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
Gator Joe, I’ve never seen a Rhodes scholar w/ a mullet and jean shorts…
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
OK, @@,
You got my goat, at last.
I surrender.
Now, how are your children, today?
Seriously.
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By AmVet
December 3, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
Glenn, rebuild the GOP?
That’s going to be like trying to rebuild the WTC.
Given the modern day realities, it ain’t gonna happen.
Reinvent? Yes.
Most of the blind reich-wing partisans have been too busy apologizing for/justifying BushCo’s innumerable failures and hating everything and everybody but themselves to notice, but over the past few years the Democrats have sent a sizable vanguard of newly elected, centrist (for the Dems), intelligent young combat veterans to Washington.
This is a HUGE step in the right direction for them.
But where are their GOP counterparts?
Almost non-existent.
To me this indicates an almost universal proclivity by the old school reactionary Republicans to do anything but improve and update themselves. And to hold onto the power they have temporarily leased from their monied masters.
(Yet, Obama is IMHO just another of these corporate wh0res with a silver tongue).
Look at the re-election of the disgraceful Suxtobeus Chambliss for evidence of how this faux conservative Leave It To Beaver crowd thinks.
Outdated, out manned and out smarted, they are looking an yet more electoral bloodbaths coming up.
Do you not agree?
By HUH?
December 3, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Pea-wad
“If Obama was a republican, I would have voted for him BECAUSE HE’S REPUBLICAN.”
So you admit - you don’t think about issues, you just blindly vote the party line! Sad, pathetic, but so Republican!
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
I do agree, AmVet, with regret.
It would be better were this nation to have a tension, an adversarial relationship, party-to-party. If you think that the one party’s too feeble to keep that up, then can you perhaps recommend another?
(‘Cause I for one can’t do the Bob Barr thing…)
?
By Peadawg
December 3, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
Huh?:
I do vote for the issues…abortion(murder), stem cell research(playing God), giving handouts, taxes, etc. I agree with the Republicans on every one of those issues.
By Bill Shipp
December 3, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Thank goodness. Zell Miller is back. The former heavyweight champion of populist Southern Democrats has come out of retirement. He helped Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss in his just-finished bout with Democrat Jim Martin.
Miller also aided Chambliss in his first race against incumbent Democratic Sen. Max Cleland, who, once upon a time, had been one of Zell’s closest pals and fiercest supporters.
However, I don’t want to go to there. This is not about Zell the hypocrite (or the renegade or the backstabber or the turncoat). That is the Democratic Zell. This is about Zell as one of the most interesting newsmakers in the annals of Georgia politics. In the end, that Zell turned out to be nearly as great a showman as backward-bicycler Gov. Lester Maddox. Zell also was a high-achieving two-term governor, who gave us the lottery.
I am happy to see Zell back in the harness and full of fire. Life has been so dull since Zell virtually vanished, soon after delivering a keynote address to the 2004 Republican National Convention. As you may remember, Zell was a Democratic senator from Georgia at the time. He also was a pathfinder for another Democrat, Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, who campaigned for and with Republican John McCain for president just eight years after being Democrat Al Gore’s running mate.
Democrats forgave Sen. Lieberman a couple of weeks ago and took him back into the fold. He received a minor slap on the wrist. Poor Zell can’t go home again. He has burned all his bridges. Former President Jimmy Carter wanted to boot Zell out of the Democratic Party until cooler heads prevailed and talked the ex-prez out of it.
Ironically, Carter as governor had given Miller his first big break. He named him executive director of the Georgia Democratic Party way back in the 1970s.
Another Democratic stalwart, Gov. Roy Barnes, appointed Miller to the U.S. Senate, thinking he would carry the donkey banner high in the next election. Instead, Miller trashed it in one of the craziest speeches ever delivered at a national GOP convention, after which he wanted to duel Chris Matthews, an MSNBC commentator. Worse than that, Miller begged citizens to vote for the re-election of George W. Bush, who was then in a dead heat with Ohio’s Warren G. Harding for worst president in history.
Since Zell’s rafter-ringer endorsement, Bush has secured a hands-down victory over Harding. There is little argument among objective historians that Bush is first among the last. Check Google if you don’t know why.
Miller has stuck by Bush even as Zell claimed to be the same unchanged Democrat who delivered the eloquent “Why I Am a Democrat” speech to the 1992 Democratic convention. Miller also deserves credit for clearing the way for Bill Clinton to win the Democratic presidential nomination. Think of all the great stories we would have missed if Clinton had not made it to the top. We in the press corps recall what you did, Zell, and salute you for making the 1990s a decade to remember.
Last week in a speech in Gainesville, Miller praised Sen. Chambliss “as the last man standing” to prevent the Democrats from enacting “the far-left agenda” of the Barack Obama administration.
Miller exhorted voters to send Chambliss back to the Senate to prevent a “rubber-stamp Congress” from giving President Obama a free ride.
Interestingly, Chambliss is known in some circles as an expert on rubber stamps. He is said to have been the quintessential rubber-stamper for President Bush.
Aw, but there’s no need to go into that tender subject, either. Bush is water over the dam. Saxby can get a new start. Miller is in his corner along with another retread, the inimitable campaign consultant Tom “Prince of Darkness” Perdue. What a team! It sounds like something right out of “Rocky,” with Perdue playing the Burgess Meredith part. By the way, Perdue spent much of his early career trying to upend Miller, but now they are bedfellows. Isn’t politics wonderful?
Anyway, Zell, welcome back. It’s great to see and hear you. You and I go back a long way. I remember when LBJ went to Gainesville to campaign against you for Congress. I think you said our president had “sold his birthright for a mess of dark pottage.” Why, heck, now is just the time to dig up that wonderful line and use it again. Think about it, Zell. You’ve come full circle (from Gainesville to Gainesville), and you’re still going strong, from LBJ to BHO. We Georgians ought to be proud of you - I guess.
By @@
December 3, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
Now, how are your children, today?
Glenn:
Over the years, I’ve learned not to discuss my kids here. Opens up all sorts of opportunities for the liberals to make fun and believe me, they have. Just this once:
One was out with a virus. One left early for a doctor’s appointment. The two that were left were slightly regressed in their behaviors, but that’s to be expected. I had the pleasure of working one on one. The other was with my fellow teacher. We share a divided room.
No matter what they bring, they’re always GREAT!
They were very eager to tackle their lessons.
Boredom (at home) breeds negative behaviors, and challenges breed determination. The only thing that threw my little girl off was how I presented her move and count task. She’s very linear to the point of being compulsive (autism).
Little plastic candy molds. Little rubber christmas tree erasers. Pick ‘em up……..put ‘em in the tray, and count as you go. I’m thinkin’ I’ll go to an upright tree where she can count and hang ornaments if she continues to be receptive to the tray. Try to push her beyond her compulsion (comfort zone) next week.
Wish me luck?
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
Yes, AmVet,
I do agree. Rebuild.
Along those lines, for starters. Otherwise the country will have a one-party system, and I’ve seen — and you and I have fought — what that can do to a People.
So Yes, of course, Let’s Go!
By The Way
December 3, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
Conservatism is ill-defined now. It’s always been in the eye of the tither, (the Eye of the Tither? Damn that’s good, you know? There’s only one analchord, and he’s sad and completely ripped apart by events, I retreat to the Curly inside of me, I tell my wife stories, trying to amuse her, to distract her, and the ones that get laughs I post as a comment here, and that’s got me banned from Bookman and Galloway. I emailed Galloway, and asked WTF? He said he didn’t know, that he would ask his IT people. Galloway has IT people? I dont think so. He’s playin’ me. Like I was supposed to go, “Oh, sure, I understand, you need to consult your I….T….Peoples….sure, that’s reasonable. Well let me tell you something, Hacks4Money, (your indian name), I have the most talented IT peoples in der verld, and they could wax your IT Peoples in a New York Gigahertz, so Y dont U take your pegamixels and shove them up your…….”
back to what I was saying till Galloway and bookman so rudely interrupted…..(BTW: I’ve got plenty for bookman, but I’m just not in the mood lately. He’s a very lucky man.)
Conservatism has always been ill-defined and vague, but usually you could sum it up in two or three phrases, “Well, big government is the enemy”, or, “Well, High Corporate taxes is the enemy”, or “Well, Prayer in the schools is not the enemy.”
Mr. Reagan, can you explain why you always look down when you answer questions? “Well, you’d look down to if you lived on a horse ranch”.
The pendulum will swing the Conservative’s Way soon enough. I mean, who ever heard of a democrat white house that blew it?
Falcons sans Vick: Falcons sloppy but still win. I like their chances. big tests are dead ahead. I’m enjoying this year’s football season very much. A great distraction from the nuts and bolts of existence.
I’m telling you partisan patriots that you better enjoy this country, and yes, it’s funny to condemn the party across the aisle, especially if you can come up with creative vindictives like ME.
However, most of you cant, you just write the most mealy-mouthed pablum that is simply not worth reading and thus you dont get read, except by your conspirators on this blog. Thus whole hours of chat-room level blogging go unread. Glenn, take a long rest, like three years, you’re undecipherable. I think you’re insane, but I’m not a doctor, but I play with myself when there’s porn on TV. (moron). Nobody has the time to bother with your airs and your retarded pronouncements, ceptin’ your co-conspirators. Trolls, hello? FA-Q!!!!
Lurkers R here 4 me, and as much as you hate that fact, U needs 2B acceptin’…blood….OMGIjustthugrappedagain….
By AxMe Chambliss
December 3, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
..So now that this most recent FARCE is behind us, let’s examine the underlying preimise of the joke that was the “Vote-for-Saxby-to-prevent-a-filibuster-proof-Democratic-Congress” argument…
The Dems currentLY have 58 seats in the Senate.
There are enough moderate Republicans and Independents who often vote with Democrats who could still provide the 60 votes needed to prevent filibuster on any issue, which leads to my final point.
This entire argument is based on the premise that every single Dem in the Senate will vote the same way every time - with other Dems. This, we know is B-S and pretty much a slim occurence.
So, once again people with small minds are duped into buying another bag of goods that they will now be left holding for the next 6 years.
So long SUCKAS!!!
By AmVet
December 3, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this
Otherwise the country will have a one-party system…
Which is essentially what we have now, my friend.
And why is that?
We have a competitive economy.
We have healthy competition in nearly all aspects of this country.
But not in our government.
Why do the Dems and GOP NOT want a competitive democracy?
Because they know they own you and you work for them.
I have spend months here and elsewhere writing about this. And you know what the prevailing attitude seems to be? Given the deafening silence, I would say almost nobody cares.
They apparently love their Dem/Rep clusterf&ck and are not even remotely interested in REAL change. (Yes we can, Mr. Obama!) They are very content to NOT participate (at any level above the bare minimum) and want their representatives to think for them. Until the next election when they pretend to be active participants in our shared fate.
90% of Americans think this country is headed in the wrong direction.
75% think corporations have too much control.
60% think the two political parties are failing the nation.
And justice is quickly becoming a farce…
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
December 3, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
Dear GA Values @ 1:15, epithets? I think Taranto has a pretty logical argument. If you accept his hypothesis, that (1) only anti-Chambliss partisans assert that Chambliss questioned Cleland’s patriotism – I think that element is beyond doubt, and (2) that the allegation is demonstrably false – the only evidence ever proffered for the democrat assertion is the commercial/video, to which I linked many times – then the rest of the proof falls into place.
The assertion of Cleland’s “lack of patriotism” then becomes a democrat allegation alone, and the repeated assertion fits the definition of McCarthyism. By repudiating those who assert falsely, McCarthyistic behavior is defeated. McCarthyism is the polar opposite of civility and decency. Absent other evidence of similar misbehavior, Chambliss victory is one for civility and decency, in that it constitutes a defeat of those who spread the false allegation about Mr. Cleland’s lack of patriotism.
By JW
December 3, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
So…
It was Zell who brought the sinful lottery to GA. As a God fearing republican, I can no longer support any of his endeavors!
By SOUTHERN ATL
December 3, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
The people of this “GREAT STATE” had SAXBY CHAMBLISS on their mind….I am dining on CROW…..This does not look good for the state as a WHOLE in the long run…GEORGIA will miss out on a lot of much needed REVENUE!!! The people have spoken loud and clear!
By Peadawg
December 3, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Gator Joe, I’ve never seen a Rhodes scholar w/ a mullet and jean shorts…
By @@
December 3, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
They are very content to NOT participate (at any level above the bare minimum) and want their representatives to think for them.
Most of America is busy makin’ a livin’ AmVet.
And of those Iraq veterans who ran for Congress in 2008?
I believe 20 of them were Republicans, while 10 were Democrats. Funny that you would only mention the Democratic candidates.
By The Way
December 3, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
Axme Chambliss: Good point. You can only sell coca cola and soap and cars if people are watching, and people will only watch if you create drama in the news and in the campaigns, and in the lives of the mundane. They had to create that idiot story about a filibuster proof senate or nobody would watch the returns or the talking heads or the news or nuthin.
Of course democrats have never voted 100 percent together.. Neither have republicans.
The filibuster was first brought to the national conscience by Jimmy Stewart. (BTW: if I could do Stewart, and believe me, I’ve tried, then I could take over the world, no question). Now Jimmy Stewart was the GOOD GUY 4 filibustering. We still root for his filibuster in reruns of “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington”.
Fillibusters R good.
Anyway, I think we have a great chance to get a national healthcare plan in four years.
That’s all I really want for America: Healthcare 4 the sick. I pay premiums on a healthcare plan with Blue Cross: 1500 bucks a month for just me and my wife, age 57 and 60.
In the last three years Blue Cross has shelled out about a 300K dollars in cancer treatments for my wife. About.
Who can afford 1500 bucks a month? and that’s with a 1500 dollar deductible!!!
It’s ridiculous. If U R sick, then U should be treated, free of charge.
If U R not sick, then you dont need a doctor. So go away. Eat an apple.
That’s my healthcare plan. The healthy eat apples, which they pay 4 themselves, and the sick get doctors.
It…could….WORK!!!!
By mp
December 3, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
This was one vote limited to the state of Georgia and the results are far from surprising or anything Saxby should be jumping up and down about. The results do nothing to negate of the strength of the lashing put to Republicans nationwide by Democrats, Independants and cross over Republicans in the 2008 Presidental election or in other state congressional races. No matter how you look at it Republicans got spanked…and they know it.
Personally I love hearing one old Republican war horse after another shout the “Ronald Reagan” montra. It’s exactly what got them creamed in the first place. The longer they live in the past the more I like it!
And think about it people, Saxby alone can’t control the 60 votes needed to block anything, and he knows that better than anyone. Look at the political landscape people. Look at how many Republicans lost their footing due to standing lock-step with Bush. Do you really think more than a few won’t break with the GOP old guard to vote what’s best for the country and their careers? Do you think the lashing of 2006 and 2008 is lost on them? Please. This back to back electoral massive kick in the rear is not lost on them. No one living could be that politically naive. Not even you Wooten.
By Obama08
December 3, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
We don’t need a 60-seat filibuster-proof Senate, Jimbo — because not all GOP senators are right-wing white-trash — like you and POS Chambliss — there are a couple of decent GOP senators in Maine, just for starters.
By JB
December 3, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
Think Ayn Rand - “Who is John Galt?”
By JB
December 3, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Think Ayn Rand - “Who is John Galt?”
By @@
December 3, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
It pains me to say this, but PoliFore!!!!
It’s good to see you’re back.
Can’t explain why, but I worry about you when you’re gone too long.
Now ‘scuse me while I try to shove my broken finger into an apple.
By AGTfan
December 3, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
Ragnar Danneskjöld Do you get paid to re-write history or do just do it for fun? Anyone who was paying attention to Suxby during the 2002 elections knows that he did indeed question Max Cleland’s patriotism.
By Dusty
December 3, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
Oh la de da and hum hum hum
The wicked witch of blogs is dead.
Those liberal bloggers we so dread.
Posts as long as their big feet
And never offering ANYTHING neat.
Twenty five lib “shops” just a shadow.
Nothing they offered ever seemed to matter.
Georgia stands in Republican pride.
Always advancing the better side.
Other comments: Georgia Values, I’d love your posts if you only had a brain.
Glenn, You seem to think there is an excuse for AmVet when you postAs ambivalent as you (AmVet) are and with good reason... What is the reason?
Churchill’s Mom, You remind me of Ma Barker. Maybe it is the gang you run with.
*Ragnar…THREE PIT BULLS!! Do you have much company at your home? Does the meter man refuse to read your meter? Do your pups have Vick Chewies to mangle for fun?
I’m still dreadfully amazed at Gombie. Ten terrorists arrived on a dingy and killed 170 people. Among those killed were Americans, other nationalities and two rabbis. Thus a terrible reminder of what and whom are out there still wanting to kill us.
By Dusty
December 3, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
Bill Shipp 2:36
Well, I thought you had your own column in the local newspaper and here you are on a conservative AJC blog just to give a few whacks to Zell Miller.
Zell Miller is one of my favorites. The main reason is that he can think for himself and not let the Democrats do it for him. He made a speech to the Democratic convention that they needed to hear and what he said was direct and honest. They hated him for it.
So Jimmy Carter wanted Zell kicked out of the Party, Carter who couldn’t even carry his own state when trying for reelection.
Zell may be entertaining for you because Democrats often find the “truth” a big joke. What Miller says is clearly truthful. I hope he stays very visible as we need men of his caliber, particularly in the Democratic Party.
By michelle
December 3, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
gee…republicans got a “victory”. whoopdeedoo..
funny how not much was said when repubs gained a near supermajority early 2000s. really, with what we’ve seen from republican-dominated leadership the first 1 1/2 terms of GWB, y’all are afraid of democrats? i laugh at you. almost had you sh!tting yourselves at the prospect of all-dem leadership, i’m just disappointed it didn’t pan out.
By Georgia Girl
December 3, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
So I see the Kos Kids have found Wooten’s blog. To the same bunch of leftist moonbats who’ve called Georgians racist, knuckle-dragging cavemen for choosing one white guy over another white guy — GET A JOB! As a matter of fact - get two jobs. Contribute to society through deeds instead of attacking words.
Your infantile hissy fits only prove YOU are the problems in this country and in this state.
By williebkind
December 3, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
Yep I do like reading “Redneck Convert”. He or she is so entertaining. I really get a kick out of their postings.
However, those that can not believe Ga. remains a red state are those who do not believe in absolute truths—such as the constitution. Those in the south have their values and it does not change because a charismatic person appears on TV or the Radio. Liberals wanted more sex so they had more sex—with various types of partners. They lost their family values. Its ok to abort healthy human flesh but do not damage animals. Ga residents and I am not talking about transplants from places like Chicago and such believe a person should be personally responsible and not depend on government. I guess there are long time residents who do believe the government should take care of them. I am sure they are the minority. However I must warn my fellow Ga residents that the liberals are gaining in the management of local and state affairs through public office. I do not think that will change the values of those who hold truths dear to their heart.
By sandman
December 3, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
Martin never had a chance. There was a runoff election, but that was only because the base showed up to support President elect Hussein. Had the exalted one not been running in November, there would not have been a senate runoff in the first place. Sorry Jim, your dreams of riding the coat tails of our annointed savior Barrack Hussein Osama came up short. I don’t like Saxby either, but giving a novice political figure like Hussein unchecked power from his White House Tower is absurd. The guy only had 150 working days in the Senate, and he’s supposed to have all the answers? We don’t put pilots in jets with that little experience, but he’s only the future president so I’m sure it’s okay. I’m not sure whether the liberals that put him there are naive or just plain dumb, but I am sure it is one of the two.
Atlanta might be blue inside the perimeter, but the rest of Georgia is red. Get outside of I-285 once in a while and you might see it. I know the libs go on about abortion and gay marriage being the red issues, but it is more about smaller government, lower taxes, and the right to have an existence outside that of a government controlled, publicly funded nanny state.
By Tell It Like It Is
December 3, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this
Sasby should be good at filbuster just like all good ole boys. Its easy for him to run his mouth and say nothing. He has always done this. Lets see how he and the other republican wind blowers manage to get funding, grants and other economic goodies from Washington at a time when Georgia really needs it. I bet they will learn to compromise like all good politicians do. As one writer put it,Georgia,Alabama,Missisippi,Lousianna,Arkansas,Tennessee and Kentucky are not revelant in the big scheme of things. Democrats won without these states. I just hope that some of the Supreme Court justices leave the court over the next 8 years(notice that Palin will not beat Obama in 2012). Oh Happy Day!!!!
By t prescott
December 3, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
bottom line wooten is that while it may be easy to fool a lib, it doesn’t hold true for conservatives. martin was shark bait and obama left him to wiggle on the hook. no surprise when you look at how the annointed has flipped on his supporters.
By Tell It Like It Is
December 3, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
SANDMAN,
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
Oh dear, @@,
In enquiring as to the well being of “your children” I’d meant to refer, with respect, not to your given children but rather to those given into your care, as you’d mentioned yesterday that today you were to resume teaching duties.
Sorry to have appeared over-personal. After the many months of tired jokes to that effect I probably deserve a comeuppance. No, I’d just meant to ask how your return to work went, in the context of my holding you and your work in the highest esteem.
Aside from which, I bet it was fun.
By CasuellObserver
December 3, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
I always find it entertaining when people like Georgia Girl come on here and slam and talk down to people about THEIR rants..while being in the process of HER OWN rant.
Hilarious.
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
Hi Dusty,
The good reason I see for AmVet’s ambivalence toward our Grand Old Party is that we are all talk about governmental minimalism, e.g. fiscal & bureaucratic restraint, while meanwhile we evince all the power-mania of hardcore New Dealers.
If that’s not cause for amibivalence, what is? And, seriously, despite your endearing diehard persona here, are you in any way ambivalent toward our party? I’m asking because I’ve no place else to go, you understand. I’m stuck. But for all that I did support Barack Obama and I do feel a great need to reshape the GOP so that it will be an alternative to the Democratic Party, rather than a broken vessel of same.
By Jim Jr.
December 3, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this
Who really cares about Georgia? Vote for who ever you wish. Next election (20100 will send more Republicans to unemployment line (from states which do no rank 3rd lowest in education level) and 60 is well within reach. Please run Sarah for anything. 63% disaproval rating - she can only help!
By The Way
December 3, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
Moron.
By Jim Jr.
December 3, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
Who really cares about Georgia? Vote for who ever you wish. Next election (2010) will send more Republicans to unemployment line (from states which do no rank 3rd lowest in education level) and 60 is well within reach. Please run Sarah for anything. 63% disaproval rating - she can only help!
By catlady
December 3, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this
Regarding the re-election of idiot, lying, war-mongering, draft-dodging Saxby: I hope J. Isakson is paying attention.H3ll, I hope Saxby did (but I doubt he learned anything. He probably thinks the vote was an affirmation of his ways of “representing” Georgia.)
The intellectual level of the majority of Georgia voters has been proven again. No wonder we have a disproportionate number of kids in sp ed. Put an R beside a pig (lipstick or not) and 65% of the folks will vote for it.
Re: the chicken plants. Our local plant employs mostly immigrants, About 1300 of 1500 employees are Latino. Few are here legally. Quite a few are being treated for TB. Have another helping of that fried chicken. If people only knew…..
I didn’t want the majority of 60, either, but I think some other state should have provided the Republican, and let us get rid of the dead weight that is Saxby Chambliss. This win will merely embolden him to press on with his “rob the taxpayer” agenda. I hope the minute he steps over the line, the move to impeach him will crank up. Bringing charges against him (on his role in the sugar blowup) would be great about now, also.
And those of you who use any kind of public utility, hang on to your wallet! Bubba is back in bed! And he has got a lot of paying back to do for his friends in the industries. He and Cheney would work well together. Let the industries make the rules, set the rates, decide on how much profit is “fair.” Sounds like so many other sweetheart deals we know about.
By @@
December 3, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this
In enquiring as to the well being of “your children” I’d meant to refer, with respect, not to your given children but rather to those given into your care
Glenn:
I wasn’t talking about my daughter. I WAS talking about those “given into my care”.
I call all of them mine.
If they don’t fit into either of the two categories, then I refer to ALL children as OURS.
Not yours and mine, mind you. But rather humanity’s.
My work and MY KIDS are always fun. Even when they’re at their worst. I can’t think of one day that I haven’t enjoyed something, if not everything, within it.
I can’t believe they pay me money to do my job.
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this
Jim Jr.,
For your sake I hope you’re not from California…
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 5:47 PM | Link to this
@@,
I’m relieved that we’re still on the same page. I love hearing about your charges, about your work. It’s been in my bonnet for half a year to think of ways to engender in others the special attitude you bring to your work, and frankly I’m stumped and am having to lease hair-plugs for that particular phrenological bump on the right side of my scalp where I rubbed my brain raw trying to figure out how to make more like you.
Vote for me for Vice President, then, in 2010, by which time the knuckle-hairs should be nicely grown in…
By Dusty
December 3, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this
Dear Glenn,
AmVet’s “ambivalence” is usually pure virulence towards almost everything. I don’t believe I’ve ever read a mention of something he liked. Sounds like the “snakepit” of unhappiness.
I don’t have ambivalence about the Republican Party. I do have some “ambi” about a few of those who represent it. When they start promoting themselves instead of the country, they lose me. We don’t have quite as many going to jail as Democrats but there shouldn’t be ANY!!
See, maybe you can call me a Purist about ethics. Or maybe Dreamer as crooks come when you least expect it sometimes.
But there is always hope and mine remains with the Republican Party. Stay with us. (Maybe you can give Arnie a kind word in Californ-i-a..)
By AmVet
December 3, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this
Dusty - vapid and vacuous. Just the way she likes her candidates and presidents…
By Glenn
December 3, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
I think you’re onto something with your suggestion that the Republican Party can be a repository of higher moral standards for elected officials. Can be.
By deegee
December 3, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this
Saxby Shameless is a spineless political hack. The only reason anyone in Georgia voted for him is because they didn’t want to see a 60 seat majority in the Senate. There wasn’t one other reason to vote for him. Absent the super majority issue, Saxby would have lost yesterday. Hardly something to celebrate. You might as well have elected a gopher to the senate. A gopher will be just as effective in governing and a lot less expensive to maintain.
By daved'
December 3, 2008 6:29 PM | Link to this
Yes Jim…I LOVE how you and all the other moron republicans mention this as a “win” for 2010… it’s SO CLEAR that you were “wiped” out in 2008 and even with this “left over” win from last month…you’ve STILL lost so much ground. No…this has nothing to do with 2010. That moron was always going to win, as GA is one a the few red “stupid” states left that thinks that abortion and gay marriage are important issues… we REAL AMERICANS care about this country…it’s those of you that vote republican that have no cluse as to what this country stands for and means. The world is already staring to give us respect again…why? Because Obama won…not only won…but kicked a#$$! What the rest of the world thinks of us matters, it’s sad for those of you that think THEY don’t matter. The world stood up and cheered when Obama won… that’s all that really matters…
By mister.earl
December 4, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
Saxby Chambliss? Get Real.
Georgia is a political joke
President of the United States Barack Obama
Get used to saying it with pride with the rest of the intelligent world
It’s good to be smart
By Three Man Rush
December 4, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
Obama will be a big dissappointment for those cheering. The Republicans left this Left government broker than it’s ever been left B4. Broke, and broker, and broke, and there is little resource or recourse to do anything.
By jill in clayton county
December 4, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
As a teacher in Clayton County, I would like to commend Senator Saxby Chambliss on his rousing victory last Tuesday over the Dagwood Bumstead-like Jim Martin. Sen. Chambliss was clearly the intelligent person’s conservative so there really was no other choice.
No matter that ‘Dagwood’ was a veteran, his politics were clearly of the very softly Democratic kind. Exuded too much of the flaming, but not enough of the helpin’, Democratic persona the blue base has come to lust after. Reminds me of that Glenn guy that posts here - all talk and no woman (‘cept when he looks in the mirror, hahahaha, and again, hahahahaha). And that, friends, was a recipe for not exactly a political potent brew.
But lest the Democratic tent-dwellers become completely discombobulated by this Red state beat-down, be of good jeer, er, cheer. The standards for the Obamessiah are still so low that as long as he doesn’t push “The Big Red Button” thinking he’s gonna destroy the Red states and keeps inflation somewhere below Zimbabwe’s…
Now, there’s a country with real leadership you can believe in
…all the holding-my-breath-til-I’m-Blue staters will consider the Oba-sequious one’s single-term a riotous success. I can hardly wait ‘til a USDollar’s only worth 1/200,000,000 millionth of it’s current value.
Can’t wait
Down here in Clayton County, Zimbabwe.
By mister.earl
December 4, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
Jill - are you really a “teacher” in Clayton County?
Thank you for passing along the essential American values of name-calling and character assassination to the children of Georgia.
Insulting The President Elect Barack Obama a month before he is sworn in?
You are a true patriot.
By jill in clayton county
December 4, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Mister Ed, given the level of character assasination eminating from the Democratic posers on this blog, I’m certainly happy to disappoint you…and them.
Sign me,
Delightedly Red in Clayton County.
(and yes, dropout, I’m a teacher)
By Three Man Rush
December 4, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
You see, if Obama, left broke, broke left there wouldn’t be one broker left on wallstreet.
Not one. But since he’s left broke, he cant break left, and the brokers left on wallstreet will stay there.
Breaker breaker, exit, stage left.
By Glenn
December 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
“All talk and no woman”, eh?
No, all hat and no cattle. The woman front is fine.
Jill,
What do you teach?
By Blue Me
December 4, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
mister.earl you complained above about someone calling Obama a name but didn’t say anything about them calling Jim Martin a name, too. I conclude then that you are the a-typically irrational and emotionally-laden blogger one sees on this site. One would hope you could represent the party a little better by commenting on the disparaging remarks leveled at Martin.
Maybe you are a high school dropout.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
December 4, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
Dear Jill, welcome to the blog. Your start suggests you will contribute mightily.
By mister.earl
December 4, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Jill - are you really a “teacher” in Clayton County?
Thank you for passing along the essential American values of name-calling and character assassination to the children of Georgia.
Insulting The President Elect Barack Obama a month before he is sworn in?
You are a true patriot.
By mister.earl
December 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
Jill - are you really a “teacher” in Clayton County?
Thank you for passing along the essential American values of name-calling and character assassination to the children of Georgia.
Insulting The President Elect Barack Obama a month before he is sworn in?
You are a true patriot.
By Georgia Girl
December 4, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
hmmm… Looks like my Kos Kid comment stuck a cord with CasuellObserver.
It’s remarkable to me that so many from the left find it interesting to canvas blogs intended for conservatives, and every time they get called out for it they whine.
By CasuellObserver
December 4, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
Nup sorry Georgia Girl you really didn’t “strike a chord”. No need to really think so highly of yourself as you nuts tend to do.
So let me get this straight… suddenly blogs are now intended for one particular group of people?? I thought that blogs gained popularity about oh 5 years ago because they served as a place where one could express a thought and invite debate from VARYING points of view??
Who wants to be a part of something where everything is the same old “vanilla” flavor…all viewpoints the same…all voices the same, etc.?? Oh my bad.. your type does.
Maybe you can block my IP address and suppress my particular viewpoint? I could tell you how to do it if you’d like…
As long as people like you continue to foster that “I-live-in-my-little-piece-of-the-world-you-live-in-yours” mentality, you’ll continue to be LEFT BEHIND by the rest of the thinking world. Here now….have another spoon of crow. MMM mmmm
By ron
December 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
Dear jill @ 10:46——You make Dusty look like a Democrat.How did you get so far off there to the right?
We’re going to have to speak harshly to Wooten.Enough is enough.
Google Saxby Gale.It was a big wind.An aptly named Senator for once.
By Three Man Rush
December 4, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
Can you imagine the depraved and indifferent students Jill the Teacher is squeezing out through the elementary canal!
we were so busy trying to figure out why johhny cant read that we missed why teacher is a robo-ho.
bwa haw
By Glenn
December 4, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
funny, ron.
By Roger Kahn
December 4, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
Do you think it’s Jim … you know, why his blog is so technically snafu-ed all the time?
By Glenn
December 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
Staffing. Poor staffing.
By ron
December 4, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this
Those of the same view and the samre voice are called”Dittoheads”.
By Glenn
December 4, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Those in whole agreement are sometimes Dittoheads. Those of one view, of one voice are called Communists.
By Three Man Rush
December 4, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
Wooten deplores all the Right’s meddling in the economy, yet he also detests the left. Well, there’s only two parties: right and left. has Wooten abandoned both parties? Has Wooten then become a man without a country? A conservative without an exploitable god? A war machine without a patsy?
The fact that the Right’s journalists are seceding from our Union reflects a general institutional secession which can only bring our Republic to an end. There are already two or three Americas, so what would it hurt to subtract one America: the one with all the money, the power, and the jobs.
Either we all get in the same socially responsible boat or we let the corporate cowboys abuse us scott free in the name of capitalism. No economy divided against itself, torn between corruption and justice, can long endure. When a government itself guarantees the corruption of an economic machine, then that government will fail when the machine breaks down. Across the globe governments are ensuring their undoing by associating their very credibility with failed economic game plans.
Rush Limbaugh is a major reason the right misfired this year. Oxycontin made rush insane. (My wife takes it for her chemo, and it’s totally bagged her). On Barbara Walters, Rush actually said that Hillary cant run for office in ‘12 if she’s SOS. His brain is mired in a dead campaign. He should stick to illegal aliens like Dobbs does. Millions of minions still parrot Rush’s every word and totally accept and internalize it. Thus opiated and opinionated, these minnows move in spasmodic lock-step to the counterfeit shrewedness of Rush’s improvisational leads.
I truly believe Rush has used affected intonations to hypnotize his audience. As a result, his legions of listeners have been programmed like automatons. Now, with Rush totally nuetralized by his own addictions, they are set free, to mindlessly enact the satirical visions Rush had no intention of being enacted. Expect real outrageous stuff from dittoheads dead ahead. Also expect Rush to tell his radio audience to stand down, that he’s misquoted and misunderstood, and really didn’t mean it, that he was just broadcasting the way the looney left does to show how looney they are….
By Perfected Georgian
December 4, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
Wait just a minute. Is the blogger gloating about a win by an incumbent Republican in a majority Republican state in a runoff which saw a drop-off in interest due to the absence of the top-of-ticket candidate and a native third-party threat? Is that what’s happening here?
Or is he saying that Democrats shouldn’t bother running in GA because the electorate is so backwards and misguided, the only thing they can utter is “baby killers, gays, guns, and Jesus”? Oh, and “lower taxes, less spending” (when running, not when governing, of course)
I think it’s the latter, fwiw.
By Buddy Ryan
December 4, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
A three-man rush is a misnomer, you’re always going to have a linebacker rushing, too.
By BoxCutters
December 4, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
Bookman totally embarrassed himself today. The terror attack in India is not Al Queda, yet who would benefit if Pakistan pulled back those troops breathing down OBL’s neck and moved them to the India Border.
If Osama Bin Laden can calculate international reactions across a larger theatre like Pakistan and India and bring about a strategic realignment of entire armies, then this is a new chapter in the war on terror.
Bookman concedes too much evil genius to the 911 bin laden and makes the wild assessment that OBL knew the towers would come down and that catastrophe would cause W to invade Iraq. (He also claims he didn’t peak at the Paris Hilton video.)
We believe you, Bookman.
By Glenn
December 4, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
Three-man,
I appreciate your good economic reasoning, but Left and Right are in this bureau-building project together, and much to my personal consternation.
As for Citizen Limbaugh, he’s a polite fellow who does indeed try his best to hypnotize — himself, especially. What I like about him, aside from his courtly manners, is his love of the Constitution, which he’s more-or-less mastered, in the manner of Larry Flint, at the feet of hired tutors, Esq.
As Mr. Justice Frankfurter said (I think it was he), the proper remedy for offensive speech is…more speech. So more power to Rush, and good health to him also. Let the countervailing breezes blow…
By BoxCutters
December 4, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this
If you lived in Georgia the past eight years, then you would know that Chambliss was a shoe-in. People haven’t changed a bit, and most still believe that W was a great prez not just for our economy but for our national honor, and that Iraq is the front lines on the war on terror, and that the left would surrender our army to the Islamic Revolution rather than give up their free government cheese and other titilating entitlements.
Like I got Palin to parrot: Checks and Balances are a good thing.
By @@
December 4, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this
But Jim, Tuesday’s lesson was offered up on Wednesday, and today’s Thursday.
I can’t get there from here…….
your Bailout Road that is.
Where you @ Jim?
By Dusty
December 4, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Dear Ron@1:25
You made me laugh while I was still enjoying Jill @ 10:46. She certainly does have a way with words—even if it makes me look like a Democrat. Heaven help us from such a failing as that.
I love it when the mousey mumblers here get their cheese melted with a bit of the blowtorch.
If Jill is a teacher ANYWHERE, I bet the students DO NOT misbehave in HER class.
GLENN, just what you will need in California….a bunch of good conservative Republican teachers.
But Ron, are you sure you are not related to RedNeck Convert? I keep getting a whiff of PBR.
By Dusty
December 4, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
Dear BoxCutters, 2:15
You are just a bit mixed up, honey chile! Republicans in Georgia who dare to appreciate the President of the USA are able to realize that WE ARE FIGHTING TERRORISTS in IRAQ. In case you haven’t noticed, the fighting is NOT IN THE USA. Or had you rather do it HERE?
Would liberals surrender to cheese and terrorists? I hope not. Just because they sound like they would cut’n’run may be wrong. Hard to tell with all the complaining and sqawking here.
Checks and balances are just fine. But the libs keep writing bum checks. You can take ‘em to the bank but they won’t work. Martin was just a lottery ticket. Georgians were not taking that gamble. They like the real thing. Martin lost.
By hotlanta
December 4, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
Bookman I wonder do you still get that tingle when you see the American Flag.
By MV7
December 4, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this
The photo of Jim Martin surrounded by thug rappers was pretty telling. Just like Obama he will do and say anything to get elected. May Saxby lose the next primary to a true conservative for the sake of Georgia.
By Three Man Rush
December 4, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
No, a three man rush was the old Falcon’s undoing and they didn’t have no linebacker rushing. I dont know what rocket scientist thought that a three man rush was appropriate at any point in any game, but I’d like to punch him in the nose.
You can never rush only three men, it simply gives the q too much time. It makes me sick to think about it, I get red in the face, and I start having difficulty breathing, and I spit. (and hurl).
You have to understand me, sir. I cant help but yell at the top of my lungs, “GO, GO, GO…GO!” whenever I see a runner break out into the open for a long gain. Even if it’s a highlight reel, or an instant replay, it’s like I’ve got this irresistible urge to scream “GO!” when I see any man running with the football in the clear. I cant help it.
So, when I read comments like yours that deny that the old Falcons stink for their three man rush, well, it makes me want to yell “STOP STOP STOP!”
By Buddy Ryan
December 4, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this
You’re out there, pal. But, I know the old punch in the nose is very cathartic.
By Eli Jones
December 5, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Yep, I am one of those that voted for Saxby and I am proud of it. The Democrats will not have all the power in our government now to shove Obama’s Marxist schemes down our throats. I do believe that Obama’s US Senate bill S2433 that would have cost us 845 Billion in additional taxes to be given to the corrupt United Nations for the “UN Global Poverty Act” will now die on the vine. Your hard earned money was to be REDISTRIBUTED to third world dictators, mostly in Africa by Marxist Obama & Co. I can hardly wait four years to help send Obama back to his Chicago and to the most corrupt political machine in America (His corrupt Chicago mafia). I feel that the majority of American’s will have enough of Obama’s sky high taxes, A weakened American military, Islamic appeasement, funding ACORN and plain old lies by then.