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By red state antonym

November 14, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

Pretty inflammatory title to this article don’t you think Jimmy? Doesn’t matter. Martin’s loss won’t be a knock on Obama. It just shows how out of touch Georgians are with the rest of the country. Oh and uh, you really need to get off the Sarah bandwagon. She’s Dan Quayle in a skirt.

By Goerge W. Bush

November 14, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

Here’s my Veto Statement on Saxby’s Rip off of the taxpayer Farm Bill.

Fact Sheet: Congress’ Farm Bill Is Bad for American Taxpayers Congress Should Propose Real Reform, As President Bush Did, Or Extend Current Law For At Least One Year

White House News

Today, Congressional negotiators announced the completion of a farm bill that fails to include much-needed farm program reforms proposed by President Bush and increases spending by nearly $20 billion. At a time of record farm income, Congress chose to further increase farm subsidy rates, require the American taxpayers to subsidize the incomes of married farmers already earning up to $1.5 million per year, and expand government control over farm programs. This bill also adds a number of provisions never considered by the full Congress such as numerous trade-related provisions and expansion of the Davis-Bacon Act. Congress should reconsider increasing by $20 billion the current spending level of $596 billion over 10 years.

This Farm Bill Asks American Taxpayers To Support Still Higher Subsidies During A Time Of Record Farm Income

The United States’ booming farm economy makes it impossible to justify further increasing subsidy rates and establishing additional subsidies for some crops. With rising food prices and farm income at an all-time high, Congress should not be looking to increase the burden on taxpayers by forcing them to further subsidize the part of our economy that is setting records.

Congress wants to increase farm bill spending, even though America’s net farm income is projected to be $92.3 billion this year – 51 percent greater than the 10-year average. Additionally, farm equity is expected to increase $280 billion this year. Congress also wants to increase the subsidy level for crops, even though crop receipts are valued at $174 billion – a 21 percent increase from last year. The actual increase in spending under the proposed farm bill is nearly $20 billion, not the $10 billion that Congress is claiming. The additional spending not being acknowledged by Congress includes:

$4.5 billion not counted as a result of a budget gimmick to shift the timing of payments; $4 billion in illusionary savings created by cutting off funding for certain programs, including disaster assistance; and $1.4 billion in new tax provisions. Congress Should Not Jeopardize America’s Support For The Farm Bill By Increasing Subsidies Without Real Reform

The lack of reform in this bill puts future farm bills in jeopardy by eroding overall support for farm programs.

The farm bill fails to adequately reform payment limitations and instead allows for excessively high limits on the level of allowable income for receiving farm subsidies. The Administration originally proposed to lower to $200,000 the Adjusted Gross Income (AGI) limit for receiving farm program subsidies. Congress wants to allow subsidies to continue for married couples who farm and have adjusted gross income of $1.5 million and for people with AGI of $500,000 who are not full-time farmers.

The farm bill fails to reform crop subsidies by increasing instead of decreasing the subsidy level for many crops at a time of record crop prices and record farm income. This legislation would establish additional subsidies for dry peas, lentils, small chickpeas, and large chickpeas. This amounts to adding crops to more subsidy programs.

The farm bill not only fails to reform the sugar program but actually increases government intervention to drive up sugar prices. This law would support sugar at nearly double the world market price and control supplies to assure that domestic growers meet 85 percent of domestic consumption. Any excess supply, which could be available for food production, would be owned by the government only to be auctioned to ethanol facilities at a huge loss.

The farm bill fails to reform the marketing loan program by refusing to eliminate provisions that allow producers to lock in large subsidies when prices are low but then wait to sell their product when prices are high – collecting both the subsidy and the high market price.

The farm bill fails to include an important reform that would save lives by allowing up to a quarter of our largest food aid program to be available to purchase food near the crisis area.

In Addition To Lacking Reform, The Bill Would Also Roll Back Previous Progress

Under current law, crop subsidies kick in only when the price drops below a certain level, but the conferees want to remove that limitation and allow unprecedented and uncapped subsidies at any price. Subsidies would kick in if the price lowers as little as 10 percent below the two-year average, which could result in billions of dollars of additional subsidies.

The bill also restricts international emergency food aid, putting millions of people at risk and undermining our ability to save lives. This provision would alter current law by restricting the ability to redirect food aid dollars for emergency use, limiting the government’s ability to respond to emergencies.

The bill walks away from conservation. The Administration is disappointed that the Conservation Title is nearly $4 billion less than the Administration’s proposal. It reduces enrollment in Wetlands Reserve Program WRP by thousands of acres, falling short of the President’s goal of 250,000 acres enrolled per year. The bill dismantles the sodsaver proposal that would protect native grasslands from being cultivated to capture subsidies.

The Administration Worked Continually With Congress In An Effort To Develop A Better Farm Bill

More than a year ago, President Bush put forth a reform-minded, fiscally responsible farm bill proposal that provides a strong safety net and funds emerging priorities. It includes:

A strong but targeted safety net for farmers. It would reduce the AGI limit for receiving farm subsidies to $200,000, which would end subsidies for wealthy people living in Manhattan and elsewhere. It would end the pick-your-price phenomenon that allowed large subsidies even when crops are sold at high prices. It would provide gap crop insurance coverage and revenue-based countercyclical payments to better support farmers when they really need it. Nearly $8 billion to protect our natural resources through conservation programs. Nearly $5 billion to improve nutrition assistance programs and increase support of fruit and vegetable producers. More than $1.6 billion to advance renewable energy research – targeted to advancing cellulosic ethanol. Unfortunately, conferees wrote a bill that fails to implement any meaningful reform, exceeds the spending baseline by nearly $20 billion, and uses budget gimmicks to pay for much of this increased spending. Moreover, conferees inserted unrelated trade provisions outside the scope of the farm bill.

The Administration also agreed in principle to increased spending as long as acceptable offsets are provided, and even submitted to Congress a list of acceptable spending offsets. Unfortunately, Congress exceeded an acceptable increase and failed to adequately offset it.

The Administration made clear that any agreement to spend $10 billion or more on farm programs must include real program reform. Instead, the Congress added new crops to subsidy mechanisms, increased crop subsidy levels, and included nearly $20 billion in additional spending, without significant reform.

Congress should extend the current farm bill for a least one year. President Bush last week made clear that this is not the time to ask American families who are already paying more in the check-out line to pay more in subsidies to support a record-setting farm economy.

By Davo

November 14, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

Chambliss is a do-nothing and has no more conservative values than Martin. As a conservative I would never vote for someone who helped pass the bailout of crooks on Wall Street.

By Lobbyist For SAXBY

November 14, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

American International Group plans to pay out $503 million in deferred compensation to some of its top employees, saying it must tap the funds to keep valuable workers from exiting the troubled insurance giant.

News of the payments to top AIG talent comes as the federal government has just put more money into saving the company from bankruptcy, beefing up the total public commitment to $152 billion. Meanwhile, members of Congress are questioning the company’s expenditures — including lavish business trips to resorts — during a time when taxpayers are on the hook for the bailout.

AIG’s troubles stem from bad bets it made guaranteeing and buying risky mortgage investments. On Monday, the U.S. government announced that it would have to expand its rescue of the company to nearly double the $85 billion loan it first provided in September when AIG was unable to pay billions of dollars in claims.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. These are difficult times for the president-elect. Yesterday notwithstanding, as the WSJ noted, Mr. Obama’s election was greeted by the street with a Bronx cheer. Rahm (of the famous elbows) Emanuel seems to be calling the shots for now. Rahm shelves the entire democrat agenda, in acknowledgement of the economic realities, i.e., that leftist agendas are bad for economies and the last two years of Congressional regulations are already starving the engine.

Obama is admired by the leftists because he is a winner. Leftists cannot abide a loser – suspect that is why the SoS trial balloon for the French-looking one collapsed so quickly. The wooden inventor of the internet takes a pass at “Environment Czar” presumably because he intends to steal a fortune with the anticipated cap and trade. Today’s hot rumor – probably floated by Harry Reid – is that the Hildebeest would be better suited for SoS than for Senate Majority Leader. The Alphonse and Garcon act is beginning to generate amusement. One would think that the leftists would be lining up to get all of the credit for all the great things coming from The One.

Thus to the topic – will Obama campaign for Mr. Martin. Surely Mr. Martin is the sort of decent leftist that the incoming administration would like to encourage. And Saxbe is a gravely flawed vessel for conservatives, as was Mr. McCain. On paper it would seem to be a no-brainer for the president-elect to bring his Nuremberg act to Auburn Avenue. Yet there is hesitation.

As to the ultimately more important issue, glad the prognosis for the tractor is encouraging. As soon as the first Saxbe-deranged post appears, I’ll repost my tired rejoinder to the even more-tired allegations.

By Vets for Martin

November 14, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

Chambliss Has Either Poor or Mediocre Grades from Veterans’ Organizations

Disabled American Veterans 2006: 60%….

Disabled American Veterans 2005: 35%….

Disabled American Veterans 2004: 0%…

Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America 2006: D-….

Vietnam Veterans of America 2006: 57%…

Vietnam Veterans of America 2005: 33%….

Vietnam Veterans of America 2004: 0%….

Vietnam Veterans of America 2003: 50%….

By Saxby Stole My Tax Money

November 14, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

I still cannot belive the idiots, including but certainly not limited to Saxby Chambliss, the Chief Sucker on the Public Teat, who stole 700 B $ plus from us. They put one stupid proposal up which we jumped on and then in compromise stuck it to us with the second proposal. Talk about redistributing the wealth! Repubs, why does it hurt so much less to give to the fat cats than the black and white welfare queens?

Saxby Chambliss (everytime I say or write his name I spit) is a liar. He is not fit to walk the halls of Congress, even pushing a broom. I don’t know if Martin is better but AT LEAST HE ISN’T SAXBY CHAMBLISS, AND HE COULD HARDLY BE WORSE THAN SAXBY! Let Saxby and his service-dodging, influence peddling friends and family get REAL jobs with real-world benefits. Let him spend some time doing the stuff the rest of us do, and see if he learns something. He sure has done NOTHING for most of us for the last 6 years, although his pockets are considerably fuller and his golf score considerably better.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

Dear Davo @ 8:43, are you pro-abortion or anti-abortion?

By W. Ga Student

November 14, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

Why should anyone expect Saxby Chambliss to get high marks from veterans groups when you consider how hard he fought to keep himself from going to Vietnam supposedly because he a bad knee. Poor baby! He and Karl Rove (another draft dodging coward) had some nerve to question the honor and integity of Max Cleland when neither ever put themselves in harm’s way. A coward ought not be rewarded with another 6 years of cheating the people he’s supposed to represent — that includes the average people, not just the Big Money Guys.

The main reason not to vote for Saxby is that his staff has one hell of a time getting him off the golf course and into to the office to do the People’s business.

By Senator Saxby Chambliss

November 14, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

I just want to say that Senator Stevens and I are dear friends. He gave me $15,000.00 which I am keeping. As all of you know what I say before election & what I actually are VERY different things. I will stay loyal to Ted because we are just alike. Look at all the lies that I am telling about my frat brother Jum Martin, you know I’ll stand by my HERO Ted Stevens.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

Dear Vets for Martin @ 8:51, I perceive disinformation. What, for example, are Mr. Kerry’s scores?

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

I knew the weird off-topic anti-Saxbe postings would begin almost immediately. The AJC does not remove the “merely irrelevant,” so here, as a public service, are the responses to the whinings of today’s paid democrat bloggers and for the other Saxbe Derangement Syndrome sufferers:

(1) No, he didn’t smear Max Cleland and he did not question Cleland’s patriotism; here is the ad, see for yourself. He did challenge Cleland’s judgment, legitimately. Mr. Cleland richly deserved to be fired for insisting on unionizing Homeland Security, then in formation; as rotten as that agency is, can you imagine how bad it would be if it had been unionized? Last week, in this space albeit in another context, we discussed the inherent economic problem that arises with unionized bureaucrats. Democrats always claim that their judgment on policy matters should not be questioned, that same is “smearing.” This was a valid economic challenge – Saxbe was not merely a screaming monkey jumping on Cleland’s shoulders – and there is no doubt in retrospect that the voters made a good decision. (Note that Mr. Cleland is never mentioned prospectively for statewide office in Georgia. Isn’t that the real difference between a smear and a valid criticism?)

(2) The reasons to vote for Saxbe are

(a) Mr. Chambliss’s unflinching support of the military missions in Afghanistan and Iraq. He gets to share the credit for the victories - (a) the extinguishment of al Qaeda all over the world and (b) the formation of a true representative democracy in the heart of the Arabian Middle East - because he never demanded unilateral withdrawal, when the screaming monkeys were baselessly demanding surrender. Mr. Martin lacks Mr. Lieberman’s character (that’s not particularly a criticism of Martin, few people do), and would have knuckled under to party pressure.

(b) Mr. Chambliss’s unqualified endorsements of Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito, in the confirmation process. I think a majority of democrats opposed both, and the conservative bloc has been correct on every issue, even when in the minority. Mr. Martin does not appreciate the virtues of conservative justices.

(c) Mr. Chambliss is “open” to Fair Tax, even if, as friend Ga Values argues, Chambliss does not understand it. Mr. Martin is not open to the Fair Tax, and willfully misrepresents the nature of the plan. Before Boortz and Linder, I advocated elimination of the income tax and substitution of a national sales tax, both on grounds of “fairness” and simplicity. Amusingly, Mr. Martin’s total argument against the Fair Tax seems to be that democrats cannot be trusted to really abolish the income tax; perhaps he is correct in his character analysis there.

(3) We don’t care about lobbyists. If you have any suggestion of “bribery,” take it to the Obama justice department. Otherwise the activities of Chambliss and family are indistinguishable from those of the prospective vice president. I acknowledge my weasel-words there, as I have a profound contempt for the democrat-like standards that have lured formerly-honest conservatives to the dark side.

(4) The headline of the November 12 WSJ reads, “Democrats Plot Detroit Rescue.” While there may be some argument in favor of government intervention to preserve confidence in the financial system, as that meaningfully implicates every other business in the country, that same argument does not validate corporate welfare to the failing automobile giants. Mr. Martin does not distance himself from the “democrats” in the headline, and thus cannot possibly claim a favorable distinction from Mr. Chambliss.

By Zell Miller

November 14, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

Zig Zag Zell Miller is easy to understand,-from Lester Maddox,-to Jimmy Carter,-to Bill Clinton,-to Thurbert Baker,-to Johnny Isakson,to Mike Thurmond,-to Roy Barnes,to Leah Ward Sears,-to George Bush,-to Joe Liberman,-to Saxby Chambliss.-Are Sam Nunn and President-Elect Obama next?-“Not all of us can be born rich, handsome, and lucky and thats why we have a Democratic Party.”(Zell Miller, 1991)….Thanks Zell, I will follow your historical advice and vote for Vietnam Veteran Democrat Jim Martin.

By Sissy Saxby

November 14, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Sissy Saxby gorges himself on lobbyist dollars, and says no healthcare for kids.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Observation for our conservative friends: most of our regular leftists on this blog are not the ones posting the Saxbe-deranged materials. These are all “guest-posters.”

By Vets for Martin

November 14, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

By Ragnar Danneskjöld November 14, 2008 8:55 AM

Is John Kerry running for senate in Georgia?? I live in Georgia, where do you live.

By Vets for Martin

November 14, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

Ragnar Danneskjöld 8:58 AM

You left Saxby’s National Sales Tax in your error filled Saxby analysis. Here is what I think about Saxby………

Saxby is a Big Spending, Big Government, Pro Amnesty Socialist who works for the LOBBYIST not Georgia. Saxby’s Calls & emailis were running 1,000 to 1 AGAINST the Wall Street Bailout but Saxby took over $2,000,000.00 from the LOBBYIST and sold us out. A vote for Saxby is not a vote for the Republican Party but a vote for the LOBBYIST that gives him the most money. My vote goes to Martin & hope he works for Georgia not the Lobbyist like Saxby.

By Teachers for Martin

November 14, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

No Child Left Behind, We need to fix the broken leadership in the U.S. Senate with a new Georgia Senator and a new direction for our state and nation.

By Republicans for Veteran JIM MARTIN--U.S. Senate

November 14, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

$axby has never cared for anybody in Georgia except himself.SUPPORT REPUBLICANS FOR MARTIN

By bearcasey

November 14, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

OBAMA kicked Republican butt. Get over it, Jimbo. Saxby is a nobody rube.

By $axby -Broken Promises,Broken Borders,Broken Economy.Broken War

November 14, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

WHERE IS ‘W’ AND CHENY?,- -BAIL-OUT $axby,- Because the people have spoken! Bail Out COBB EMC ,BAIL OUT COBB ENERGY——MAX CLELAND IS A REAL PATRIOT———————JIM MARTIN IS A REAL VETERAN!

By Fishing with Sonny

November 14, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

Eight years of failed policies and now they are scrambling to get the GOP back on track. All this is about is blocking the legislature- and keeping the will of the people from happening. Chambliss is full of the same words that lost the election for the GOP. And he will be a wealthy man when he is finally sent back home- unlike the rest of us.

May they rest in peace.

Go Martin!

By South Georgia Farm Boy

November 14, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

Congrats on the tractor fixing. John Deere is OK, but International Harvester is better. My favorite is the 1966 model 424. Or was it a ‘67?

By Geek

November 14, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Chambliss is not much of a man and it is people like him that has hurt the Republican Party.

I would rather vote in a liberal democrat and then vote him out latter than support a snake like Chambliss.

Political views are 1 thing, a person who would destroy the reputation of another just to get elected is not someone who I can respect or vote for.

John Mc Cain should know better. While he has shown he would do anything to get elected, there was a line that even he would not cross, he got Palin to do that for him.

The GOP has turned into a sad lot who have lost their personal values. Georgia needs to reject this type of junk and show the country it is better than this.

By Walton Wonder

November 14, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

I hope Saxby can’t sleep between now and 12/2. After that defaming ad he ran against Max Cleland, he should be sent to pick the crops in South Georgia for all those big industrial Ag companies he championed by trying to keep the illegals here to pick crops.GOMARTIN-we proved it could be done with Obama-let’s get it done again!!!!!!

By John McCain

November 14, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

Saxby Works for the LOBBYIST not Georgia

John McCain opposed the farm bill. In an impassioned speech on Monday, he declared: “It would be hard to find any single bill that better sums up why so many Americans in both parties are so disappointed in the conduct of their government, and at times so disgusted by it.”

McCain has been in Congress for decades, but he has remained a national rather than a parochial politician. The main axis in his mind is not between Republican and Democrat. It’s between narrow interest and patriotic service. And so it is characteristic that he would oppose a bill that benefits the particular at the expense of the general.

By INDY Man

November 14, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

Saxby who be a shoo-in if he were actually a conservative or a Republican.

If the market falls or some other financial meltdown happens, that will take him out no matter how hard the GOP tries to save the Poster Boy of the ROTTEN AS HELL Republican party.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

With regard to the markets, I predict a sharp upturn next week. Conflicts in Sub-Saharan Africa have temporarily subsided, allowing gypsum deposits in Niger to be fully exploited once again. Take that, Karl Marx!

By Redneck Convert

November 14, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

Well, back when I was 18 and in my senior year in school, a bunch of us 5th-graders use to go to all the rallys held by GA Democrat politicans. Back then, the Democrats were the Republicans of today and the Republicans were the race mixers and equal rights nuts. They didn’t need no Northreners to come down here to campaign for them. Well, things have changed alot since then.

Anyhow, just go to a rally held by Cobb County Republicans today. You’ll see more flat-tops than our Navy ever had. Us godly Republicans might not be good in school, but we are plenty smart enough not to vote for a Democrat. This Jim Martin is going to get the butt-whomping of his life, McCain or no McCain. And if they send this uppity Obama down here to help him, he’ll get it even worse.

Northreners! They come down here and try to ruin our good Southren way of life.

I’m awful glad to hear Wooten and his pals have zeroed in on the tractor part that needs to be replaced. Now if they’ll just pay @@’s bus fare down there, they can have that thing running like a top. Her students can do without her for a day, and so can we. Gone or here, they will still be morans.

Have a good day everybody.

By Churchill's MoM

November 14, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Jim, Here’s what you need to be writing about. The only 1 who cares about Saxby is the lobbyist who employ him.

MIAMI — Republican governors gathered here to implore their beleaguered party to reckon with the demographic changes sweeping the country, improve their lagging technological capabilities and win their way back by offering ideas about pressing issues.

But that’s not why 220 members of the media descended on the waterside Hotel Intercontinental Thursday.

It was for The Sarah Show.

While her other governors diagnosed the GOP woes that led to their second consecutive electoral thrashing and plotted a way out of the political wilderness, Sarah Palin did neither.

Two events were added to the annual Republican Governors Association meeting especially for the Alaska governor and former vice presidential nominee, but her objectives were unclear and her message, mixed. For somebody who is now seen as a prominent leader in the GOP and perhaps the party’s instant-front-runner for the 2012 presidential race, it was a less than auspicious return to the Lower 48.

At a Thursday morning press conference, Palin indicated she wanted to look forward rather than back at her losing campaign with John McCain.

“As far as we’re concerned, the past is the past and we’re all focused on the future,” she said, surrounded by many of her fellow Republican chief executives.

But then, immediately after addressing reporters, she walked across the hall and delivered a speech before a session titled “Looking Towards the Future” that was largely a nostalgic trip back through the last two months, replete with mention of Joe the Plumber and the other memorable campaign trail moments.

She said at the press conference that the GOP governors “want to reach out to the new administration and offer our assistance, our support, offer solutions.”

“We’re here to help,” she said.

Then, opening her speech, Palin offered: “Let us resolve not to be the negative party.”

But in the same speech she implicitly offered the same criticism of President-elect Barack Obama that Republicans leveled throughout the fall.

“We are not the many voting yea or nay or present,” she said of her fellow governors, a veiled reference to Obama’s “present” votes as an Illinois state senator.

And, in language that could have been taken directly out of her or McCain’s stump speech, Palin reminded her audience that Congress is run by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Rep. Barney Frank — to a person, the same three stock liberal villains Republicans invoked in the final weeks of the campaign to warn against full Democratic control of Washington.

Asked about what the party could do to appeal to women and Hispanics — two demographic groups which tilted toward the Democrats this election — Palin had little to say about a topic that has been a focus for many of her colleagues.

“You know, I treat everybody equally: women, Hispanics,” she said.

In her speech, which she delivered from notes, not a teleprompter, Palin talked only briefly about energy and health care, confining much of her policy discussion to generalities and vague mentions of “reform.”

“Let’s start talking about the conservative solutions to these economic challenges,” she said at one point.

Her uncertainty about just what kind of message, if any, to deliver was partially shaped by a desire not to further overshadow her fellow governors.

Coming off a round of TV interviews all week, Palin drew hordes of reporters who otherwise would have been unlikely to venture to a post-election governor’s conference of the minority party — including some U.S.-based correspondents for foreign publications.

Indeed, it was a meeting unlike any other that veteran Republicans had ever witnessed.

By Chris

November 14, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

If Chambliss wins (and I think he will), the left “will make Georgia howl” in a manner not seen since Sherman’s March to the Sea during the American Civil War. The left’s “scorched earth” campaign will make Sherman’s march look like a cake walk (Thanks AJC for being so silent on the Fairness Doctrine.).

By Jeff

November 14, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Jim:

South GA is a HUGE area, but if you happen to be in my area feel free to drop by. Some things are developing that you might be interested in.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

The usual leftist disinformation abounds; 9:33 is not me. I suspect all would be well advised to assume anything posted by a leftist today is a lie, unless it is from one of our regular leftists.

By AmVet

November 14, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

No, he didn’t smear Max Cleland and he did not question Cleland’s patriotism; here is the ad, see for yourself. He did challenge Cleland’s judgment…

I’ve lost track, but I believe this is at least the third time this week this lie has been posted.

Six deferment Saxby, DID NOT question “Cleland’s judgment”.

HE SAID HE LACKED THE COURAGE TO LEAD.

Twice.

I guess for those with hearing problems or exceptionally thick craniums. And yet there are still some of those Republicans First, Nation Second loons who, for obvious reasons, will never grasp the fundamental meaning of the word COURAGE.

Apparently some of the more delusional, “center-right” (LOL!), empirically challenged slow-learners and ideologues on the fringe need a third or fourth or fifth repeat for it to finally sink in.

If he was one of the good guys and had some real solutions for he clusterf&cks we are in, I would vote for him. But he, as much as anyone, is THE reason we are where we are, and is not remotely part of the solution.

Yet, I don’t really mind if the spineless Socialist Saxby goes back to DC.

He’ll be as irrelevant, if not more, than any of the few chicken hawk neo-cons remaining. And the proud xenophobic bigots in Georgia deserve him along with Westmoreland and Broun and Perdue and…

All this charlatan will do is further reinforce the nation’s ever growing disgust at these dwindling, intractable and inane reactionaries in the Moron Belt…

By Chris

November 14, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Jim writes: “the only message third parties send that’s widely heard is that they can muck up elections”

Really? So I guess in your world one votes for a third party to muck up an election, huh?

Jim’s Republican party and Jay Bookman’s Democrat party are the reasons this country is in the mess it is in. In order for real “change”, we need a third party. A party who is truly fiscal conservative but will stay out of our personal lives. Neither of the two major parties will do either of these things.

We the People complain and complain that the gov’t is broken but we do nothing to fix it. The People keep voting for the same old people to “fix” things. It makes no sense.

The only way for real change and positive things to happen in Washington is when the People realize that voting for a third party is not throwing your vote away. Read the other party platforms, become informed on what they stand for and vote your conscience. That way real change can happen and this great nation can move forward again.

By Chad Harris

November 14, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Wooten is afraid of Obama coming to Atlanta. It’s a lot more powerful message than Clinton coming to campaign for Fowler. And there is an uphill battle to get out the vote for Jim Martin because this is such a poorly educated backwoods state that is a few years away from a paradigm shift where multi-ethnic, and multi-racial majorities will overcome the bigotry that Wooten and other Wingnuts foment.

As to Danneskjöld who theorized that Dems have a template for Palin—anyone can judge by her stupidity in multiple softball interviews. No one needs to blindly follow a template and no one is.

Multiple Rethug Governors were quoted on her stupidity yesterday anonymously. Gov. Rick Perry gave her an abrupt hook that looked like a Steve Martin movie when she began her first evah Press Conference.

And if I mistook someone’s name tag yesterday, it was because all of you Rethugs parrot the same tired lines from Limbaugh and Hannity including Wooten. I haven’t seen one who can argue issues on this “blog” yet.

Time is reporting reprehensible communications with jurors by the prosecution in the Siegleman case, an appeal that very likely is headed for a rare reversal. An opinion should be issued very soon.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

One of the strategies of the National Socialists is to flood blogs, especially conservative blogs, with postings by faux conservatives reflecting dissatisfaction with the imperfect, and “preferring” the known opposition. They fail to grasp that only the National Socialists are cultists, and that conservatives could not care less about their testimonials. We listen to arguments, and they offer none.

The National Socialists are coming to Georgia, to make Mr. Martin sound like an anti-abortion, anti-tax, anti-spending hard-core conservative – all contrary to his record – and to make Saxbe sound like a democrat. Ways to identify the outsiders:

(1) They will cite statistics from “nonpartisan” (i.e., leftist) organizations.

(2) They will repeat the false allegation that Saxbe slandered Max Cleland in 2002, without ever quoting any particular language.

(3) They will assert that they have always voted Republican – they never say “conservative” – but will not do so “this time,” as if Saxbe’s conservative credentials are somehow inferior to Captain Queeg’s.

(4) They quote the New York Times.

The only way to restore truth to our political system is to vote against the National Socialists at every opportunity, until they cease the misreprentations.

By AmVet

November 14, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Chris,

The ideologues and “leadership” in both parties are absolutely terrified of a competitive democracy. And will use their self-appointed duoplositic powers to ensure the republic is never allowed one.

Why?

We know.

Party First, Nation Second.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

Dear AmVet @ 10:12, I usually skip your posts on principle, but I noticed. I agree that Saxbe affirmed that Mad Max lacked the courage to lead – a true statement, noting that he swallowed Tom Dashle’s kool-aid on Homeland Security, demanding “unionization” of the bureaucrats. That is extraordinarily good proof of the lack of courage to lead. No slander - the truth is a perfect defense to an allegation of slander.

By getalife

November 14, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

He sent Jim 100 of his team and probably make an ad.

Are you retiring Jim and Jay is talking over ?

All he writes about is the gop.

By What does it mean to be a Republican

November 14, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Has anyone else noticed that nearly flawless burnt orange “tan” that good old boy Saxby is sporting. What really makes it stand out as Oh So Faux though is the white around the eyes. That’s from wearing those little bitty shades that cover only the eyes while getting that otherwise perfectly applied “tan”. Sax, old boy, your vanity is showing.

By Dusty

November 14, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Well, so far we have 21 propaganda posts for Martin out of 31 at last count I guess the Democrats are still paying with the money Obama got by lying to McCain. Yep, still spreading it around. Same ol’ tripe everyday which makes it pure fiction.

Besides the grafiti for Martin, Churchill’s mom is still plugging Palin with a post about two feet long. I think that Dems are afraid of Sarah Palin’s great future. Smear early and smear long, even undercover like Mom and RedNeck. Longtime lib policy.

Vote for Saxby. Don’t let Congress be a runaway train for Democrats.

By Chad Harris

November 14, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

@ Danneskjöld :

The only socialism and communism I’ve seen that is legitimate are the reprehensibly stupid hemorrhages by Paulson and his team of the 5 dwargs from Goldman Sachs (one via Harvard) who have given billions to investment banks with no strings and simply none of the intended results in a financial fiasco that will have reverberations for years.

You should concentrate less on name calling and banal labels and more on reading the simple print media to catch up on issues where you are systemically lacking in facts.

By Ga Values

November 14, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

“It’s official now that there’ll be a runoff. The 3.4 percent for the Libertarian is a reminder that the only message third parties send that’s widely heard is that they can muck up elections.”

Jim, the simple facts are, If Saxby worked for Georgia rather than Special Interest, he would not be in a runoff. I am proud of Allen Buckley,The only Conservative runnung, and would vote for him again. It is a great thing that Saxby, his Lobbyist backers, & the RNC are wasting millions of dollars on Georgia TV. You should be happy after all Cox does pay your salary.

By Chris

November 14, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Jim writes: “the only message third parties send that’s widely heard is that they can muck up elections”

Really? So I guess in your world one votes for a third party to muck up an election, huh?

Jim’s Republican party and Jay Bookman’s Democrat party are the reasons this country is in the mess it is in. In order for real “change”, we need a third party. A party who is truly fiscal conservative but will stay out of our personal lives. Neither of the two major parties will do either of these things.

We the People complain and complain that the gov’t is broken but we do nothing to fix it. The People keep voting for the same old people to “fix” things. It makes no sense.

The only way for real change and positive things to happen in Washington is when the People realize that voting for a third party is not throwing your vote away. Read the other party platforms, become informed on what they stand for and vote your conscience. That way real change can happen and this great nation can move forward again.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Dear “Vets for Martin” @ 9:05, “I live in Georgia, where do you live.” You reveal yourself – I have posted on this blog almost everyday since the week it started. Everyone who has read this blog more than twice knows the answer to your question. Hope they are paying you well for your unpersuasive efforts.

By getalife

November 14, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Suxby deserves to lose and Max deserves to run Veteran Affairs.

By Democrats for SAXBY

November 14, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Did you like our previous blue flag, Georgia?

Were you pleased that ex-Democratic Governor Roy Barnes and his political pal Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow Coalition led the charge to give GA that blue rag?

Well, there’s more where that came from.

Roy Barnes supports Jim Martin. Why? ‘Cause Jim’s just as wishy-washy as Roy. If you loved Roy Barnes, Jesse Jackson and their blue flag, you’re gonna love Jim Martin.

Vote smart. Saxby Chambliss for Senator.

By Chris

November 14, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

The two major parties have made it almost impossible for anyone from the outside to run for public office. They set the rules and guidelines, they have the lawyers to assist their candidates and they control the money. What a set-up!

As for Chambliss, I cannot and will not vote for him, Mr. Martin either. They are both part of the problem as is McCain and Obama. Bigger gov’t., more taxes, pork spending, corruption and grab all you can while you can. No matter who wins in the run off, we all lose!

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Dear Chad @ 10:31, I suspect you’re a liberal arts grad. Maybe Wesleyan or Bates? Abscond from the ivory tower from which you bark, and I promise you’ll find you’ve been drinking from the Lethe.

By BROWNE

November 14, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

No Wooten, the real loser is the guy that came to town yesterday. it is alright, you are probably confused. You don’t have the best record with your predictions, but you are correct in saying that Georgia is for now still a red state. Probably the same shade of red as you were on the night on November 4th. It still amazes me that Atlanta is an Island of hope surrounded by a sea of hate, that is Georgia. Take my Advice from last time, Retire, you are in the in the wrong decade, and you are clearly bitter over this election. To actually infer that the next POTUS is a loser if he comes to Georgia to rally the Troops is very transparent. At least we all know now what I have long suspected. Admit it, it is killing you that “they” are going to be in the White House now. Actually living in it! How could we let this happen? You are bitter, it shows. Tractors? Really?

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

Dear Chad @ 10:31, “The only socialism and communism I’ve seen that is legitimate are the reprehensibly stupid hemorrhages by Paulson and his team of the 5 dwargs from Goldman Sachs (one via Harvard) who have given billions to investment banks with no strings and simply none of the intended results in a financial fiasco that will have reverberations for years.” You will be staggered that I agree with all of your argument save the word “only.”

“Spreading the wealth” would constitute socialism. A refundable “tax cut” for the 45% of the population that does not pay taxes would constitute socialism, a pure wealth transfer. I affirm that socialists prohibit intellectual diversity, and that “fairness doctrine” is a necessary element of their agenda. I suspect you would argue – wrongly - that capitalism requires a law eliminating a need for a secret ballot to compel unionization of the workers at a private company. Socialism always features a mindset of “allowing” individuals or companies to “keep” a portion of the earnings, rather than a more honest perspective of “government-theft” of privately-earned property. Certainly “cap and trade” – to allow the government to “own” pollution rights, to auction those to the best-connected leftist for subsequent trade – would be a feature of socialism, and not one of those naturally-occurring free market initiatives. Prohibition of off-shore oil exploration and drilling sounds like something governments do to interfere in the free market. Nationalizing health care is one of those things that capitalists would never consider, but I’m certain you have not heard that discussion.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Dear HIDT @ 10:47, welcome back. We’ve missed you.

By Devastator

November 14, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Raggedy,

Calling King a communist didn’t stop the civil rights movement, calling Obama a socialist won’t stop this.

Were we a socialist nation when Clinton was in office, because those are the policies that are coming our way. In the meantime, you might as well give up on your loser logic, the election is over.

By the way, I wasn’t aware that the middle class didn’t pay taxes. Thanks for the info clown.

By republicans evil time is up

November 14, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

I am so glad that sherman and the UNION SOLDIERS came and BURNED THIS WICKED PLACE DOWN you hicks who think the the conFAGderates is going to rise again, its not going to happen hillbillies, us libs democrats whites blacks asians hispanic arab and indian out number you racist coward hicks who think that bigotry will win, NO IT WONT GOOD WILL PREVAIL OVER YOUR EVIL EVERYTIME. P.S. YOUR backwards southern way is the reason why your EDUCATION LEVEL IS 50TH IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WE HAVE MOVED ON DUMBA** GEORGIA WITH OR WITHOUT YOU REDNECK BACKWOODS FAMILY REUNION ORGY HAVING HICKS. GO GATORS GO TIGERS LOSE MUTTS!

By findog

November 14, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Jim, If by loser do you mean that in the politics as usual in the United States that normally accompanies elections, like Saxby stating he will vote to expel Senator Steven but he hopes he wins his reelection; I think not. He has too much to do to consider wasting any political capital on Georgia. Really sad if you think we were the last southern state to completely abandon statewide democrats and we will be the last, if ever, to embrace them again. Best indicator of how poisoned the well has become is our own laughingstock Zell weighing in on the election. A national party no more; did he mean the donkey or the elephant?

By Gator Joe

November 14, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Wooten: As you continue to take comfort in GA remaining a red (+neck) state, I take comfort in the number of citizens who did vote for Barack Obama and Jim Martin. Some of those voters are Liberals such as myself, and as long as there are people like you and other narrow-minded, racist southerners, there will be people like me. By the way, the only losers in the Dec. 2nd election will be the people of GA if Chambliss is reelected.

By BS Aplenty

November 14, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

Well, I’ll be dipped in…looks like the paid Democratic bloggers are back lobbying for their boy, Jim “Set ‘Em Up Again” Martini.

The intellectual base of Schenectady, NY blogs down to Georgia in an effort to elect Dumbo, er, Jimbo. And I thought the only retard New York ever sent this way was the penultimate 40-chromosome poster boy, Redneck Convert. Alas, there’s more such inbred, out-of-work actors in New York, and they’re all a match for the bango player in Deliverance.

So now I’ve got to slog the Democratic drooling of these poseurs until December 2nd when the good people of Georgia (not to be confused with New York) send one of our conservative Senators back to Washington.

Saxby Chambliss ‘08 - don’t listen to retard Democratic bloggers from Schenectady, NY

By dirty harry

November 14, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

“Will Obama start out a loser?”

Silly me, I already thought he started out as a WINNER!

I believe at last count there will be at least 57 democratic senators come January.

But, somehow if Martin loses in this Red Neck state that is Obamas fault?

Get real!

By DB, Gwinnettian

November 14, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten, this is pretty silly. Obama closed a huge gap in GA, and the demographic shifts suggest that the conservative’s hold on the state won’t last much longer.

Maybe it’s rhetorically smart to claim victory if Chambliss manages to cling to re-election, but I think you know inside that there’s been a fundamental shift in how the nationwide electorate—including GA’s—views a conservative approach to governing.

By citizen

November 14, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

Obama 2.0 is the transitional’s team term for being wired to youtube to disseminate their agenda to the wired population. Will this be an experiment that may come back to haunt the political process which relies heavily on corporate donations? Advertising follows the bodies, if more and more people are getting their news fix from the internet, this will have a profound effect on advertising dollars.

By AmVet

November 14, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

I am deeply honored that such a “principled” man would deign to offer insignificant me a retort as “defense” of his prevaricating position. And all for my elucidation!

His “courageous” spin notwithstanding, I feel no such obligation to respond to a man of such intellectual dishonesty that he will not man up and admit to his obscene apology on behalf of the dishonorable and scurrilous Senator Chambliss.

As an aside, it is noteworthy that the once-maverick, once respected RINO (who correctly said of the attack, “It is worse than disgraceful. It is reprehensible”) is NOW openly hugging the contemptible Saxby and battling on his behalf.

A shameful vacillation and the final exclamation mark on the end of an awful performance. And in retrospect, it is immensely satisfying to know that this man and his vapid beauty queen will not get anywhere near the Oval Office…

By Republicans R Crooks

November 14, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Well, ah was gonna vote for Martin and against the stinking repuke Chamberpotliss, but ah have changed mah mind. I will vote for Chamberpot, not because I support him, but because I hate and dispise Traitor Joe Lieberman. Ya see, the Democrats are gonna strip Traitor joe of his chairmanship to punish him for being a, well, Traitor. But, if the Democrats have sixty seats to beat the filly buster, they will pardon Traitor Joe to keep their sixty votes. So I intend to make sure the Dummycrats don’t have anything like 60 votes…..

Could Wooten be down there in South Georgia shooting little birds (quail) with a big old 12 gauge shot gun…..what man…..Sort of a man in full…wannabe….

By Curious Observer

November 14, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

Just keep spouting those antebellum sentiments, Georgians, and you will be lucky to get even a federal sewage plant.

By Chad Harris

November 14, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

@ Citizen—

I saw yesterday in NYT and WSJ that You Tube will be peppering their pages with ads of all types. It’s inevitable. I’m heavily in favor of the web, cloud computing and all the advances we’ll see in the future in cybersapce enhancing political awareness and being used constructively to inform people period.

I could show you websites that would make your ability to inform yourself exponentially faster and you could show me some.

While there may be downsides, I think use of the web is overwhelmingly possible.

I want to see everyone of every age get easy web access and that’s progressing.

I worry though from what I hear that while kids in high school are getting more and more web precocious and websavvy/software/hardware savvy, they aren’t reading the books from reading lists that we did in part because of games, texting, etc. I hope I’m wrong about that. By the time they get into college their time is more limited and they won’t get to a lot of that literature.

By Tom Becker

November 14, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this

Chambliss should win easily. Remember that nearly 200K votes for Obama had no senate race choice. People dont care enough to vote for the senate, and that means Saxby will win hands down.

It shows you how far Obama has transcended the political arena itself. He is a world leader, not just an American leader, and he comes at a time of global crisis, just in time, my friends.

We can share him.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Dear Devastator @ 10:57, you raise several good questions. “Calling King a communist didn’t stop the civil rights movement, calling Obama a socialist won’t stop this.” Agree on both counts. Rev. MLK, although undoubtedly a good and decent fellow, may have been a communist, but ultimately he was irrelevant to the successes of the civil rights movement. At best he was the most faithful cheerleader for our black brothers. The people who ultimately brought the triumph of the civil rights movements were not the “talkers” but were the “doers.”

While I do not minimize the foundation works in the movement that preceded the Great Depression, the line that brought our black brothers into full social integration begins with Joe Louis. Jack Johnson notwithstanding, white America wrongly believed black Americans were inferior in every respect – intellectually, morally, physically, until the Brown Bomber changed minds; “black power” had a specific meaning long before the 1960s. Around the same time, Jesse Owens made a mockery of Hitler’s Aryan supremacy with speed then unmatched by white athletes. The courageous service of thousands of black servicemen in World War II provided the first exposure to black America for many whites and allowed white folks to use “courage” and “black folk” in the same uplifting sentence. Jackie Robinson may have been the first black American whose “smarts” impressed white folks, probably more so than his numerous physical gifts.

Those four giants notwithstanding, white America viewed black America as a separate culture until the 1950s, when black musicians began to be truly appreciated by a wide audience. White America saw Louis Armstrong and Nat King Cole as more than “black” musicians. Perhaps the one who did the most to make white Americans say, “they’re just like us” was Bill Cosby. Cosby’s amusing stories of his childhood, and of his parenthood, and his engaging and highly visible television persona did the most to bring true equality to black Americans. Cosby could have run for president in the 1970s, were he willing to accept the pay cut and lower prestige. I think a greatly underappreciated giant of the civil rights movement is Charlie Pride. Pride took his country music act into the high temple of white Southerners, the Grand Ole Opry, and conquered them, with gentle humor and marvelous talent. From that 1970s cultural change, it was a short trip for America to appreciate the intellectual talents of Tom Sowell and Walter Williams and Clarence Thomas.

“Were we a socialist nation when Clinton was in office,” – only for two years, when America expelled the socialists controlling Congress – “because those are the policies that are coming our way.” You may be right. We saw it in the Carter era.

“In the meantime, you might as well give up on your loser logic, the election is over.” Conservative logic remains the only meaningful “logic,” even if it is out of fashion for the next few weeks. I forecast that Rahm Emanuel will abandon the leftist agenda. Watch for buzz words like, “it will take much longer than we thought.” These people think the lemmings will buy into the idea that it takes Congress years to impose leftist doctrine, whereas they always argued that establishing a free capitalist democracy in the heart of the Arabian Middle East – where there was no cultural history of freedom to build on – should have been accomplished within six month. Of course, lemmings are lemmings.

“By the way, I wasn’t aware that the middle class didn’t pay taxes. Thanks for the info clown.” Middle class pays all right, in the form of higher prices for goods, lower wages, and production inefficiencies. Not that leftists can grasp that truth.

Dear AmVet @ 11:35, all epithet and no argument? Thus my principle.

By Tom Becker

November 14, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

What was Palin speaking at yesterday? A GOP wake over a conservative shroud? She even asked if anyone remembered Joe the Plumber.

Can it get any worse for Republicans?

By Chad Harris

November 14, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this

@Tom Becker 12:02PM—

Where did you get your figure that 200,000 Obama votes in Georgia had no Senate choice? I’m not disputing it, but I have tried to find that documentation and have come up empty. Is it something you heard, suspect or do you actually have the figures?

Handel has dragged her feet in providing a lot of election data she could have provided if she were more savvy and if the Gtech IT people were better developers and programers. A large part of the mismatches on the lists were not only because of faulty bureaucratic input and the obivous discrepancies due to people putting their names in different forms (middle initials, etc.) on voter registration, SS, and driver’s licenses—they were due to mistakes in programming or incompetence in programming from Gtech or Handel’s “IT personnel.”

By Tom Becker

November 14, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, Eleven Alive, Wall Street Journal, Time Magazien, Newsweek, New York Times, Washington Post, AJC, The Moscow Sun Daily, The Beijing Eggroll, the Swedish Meatball, and the Litchenstein Soldier.

There’s more, but I’ve not the time or space to waste printing it, sir.

By Chad Harris

November 14, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

@ Rethugs are Crooks 11:45AM—

As I imagine you know,

1) Leiberman’s status as to DHS Chairman and caucusing as a Dem is very much in flux right now.

2) There is very little prospect that even if Leiberman were the 60th vote, and we wouldn’t need him for that if Martin, Begich who will win, and Frankin who after Coleman’s endless litigation will in fact be voted into the US Senate by the US Senate (Minnesota election rules) get elected.

3) Considering Leiberman’s track record and voting record and professed ideology as a pro hac vice or de facto Rethug, it’s ludicrous to expect him to vote with the dems on most key issues although in past years he voted more with the Dems than conservatives. Leiberman is no longer the same guy he was years ago.

FWIW Hillary Clinton is one of the worst possible and least qualified choices to be SOS in the next administration.

By Tom Becker

November 14, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Rice was a feather as SOS. Hillary would change that. She’d be more of a (fill in the blank to win today’s joke-off).

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

Dear PoFo @ 12:18, this is why nobody trusts the MSM - today’s headlines:

NY Times: C.I.A. Chief Says Qaeda Is Extending Its Reach

CNN: CIA head says bin Laden isolated, fighting to survive

By Devastator

November 14, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Raggedy,

Thanks for your acknowledgement that Obama’s plan to cut taxes for the middle class as a good idea. It will be even better once food prices go down after the oil barons leave office. Thanks.

Thanks for the history lesson too, by the way. Your assessments are not incorrect, its just that when whites feel threatened, its a whole ‘nother story. Jackie Robinson would’nt have been liked if he was a threat to the establishment of power for example.

As far as talkers and doers are concerned, there is always a need for inspiring leadership at the top to lead people into their doing. Are you telling me that the CEO of GM is doing more than those on the machine lines. If you would take an honest and unbiased assessment of King, you will find he both talked and did. Even if some of his talking had to be from a higher platform.

Give credit where credit is due and stop trying to go against the grain.

By Chad Harris

November 14, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Palin continued on her moronic meme with Joe the Plumber who was a stupid metaphor for anything they were trying to sell and remains one, Tito the Builder, and Ashley the lap dancer. The more she talks, the more we win is the bottom line.

And to Danneskjöld parsing the sexual preferences of any writer who assesses Palin is childish cultural divisionism. Andrew Sullivan and Tom Savage are excellent reporters. The vast majority of people could care less about their sexual preferences. If you start parsing the world’s literature or main stream media and get homophobic about who you read for the information they provide, you’re foreclosing on your infomration sources. Sullivan’s being gay has nothing to do with his assessment of Palin. Are you ready to assert that George Will, Brooks, and the vast majority of Republican consdervative columnist who are best known in this country and most respected are gay because they have written Palen is mentally unqualified for any public office?

Again you can sit at your keyboard and p** on people culturally all you like, but the bottom line is the current crop of 2012 hopefuls is woefully designed to tack right and repeat 11/4/08. I don’t know what it will take for many of the sh*t tossing Wingnuts to realize that if you want some of your conservative “principles” —the ones Bill Buckley advanced to stick at the ballot box, you’re going to have to stop tacking right and become inclusive of the increasingly engaged African American, Hispanic voters and vast majority of Americans that aren’t having the right wing agenda.

You can stay mired in your knee jerk reactions, but you’re going to have a huge loss column at most ballot boxes whether Chambliss gets out more red necked poorly educated and systemically inarticulate voters or not.

By Tom Becker

November 14, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Orange alerts killed the public trust in media.

it’s all W’s fault. All of this mess is W’s doing.

He’s our Caligula.

By Chad Harris

November 14, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

@Tom—

By documentation I meant a link. And you don’t need to be reminded that all those sources have been wrong. Do you have any data from Handel’s office who is supposed to control and have the data at the Georgia ballot box that supports this. I read those sources just like you do, btw and I haven’t seen any statement in the NYT and again, a legit source would be data from the hapless Diebold touch screens from Handel that actually document this. I’ll try to see what Attorney Wesley Tailor who supervises elections for Karen has when I get a chance.

I agree with you on Rice. She was egregiously pathetic. Hillary would fall far short of several people I would appoint.

By Al Frankenstein

November 14, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Is anyone paying attention to my attempt at a coup d’état in Minnesota for a Demrat congressional senate seat? Is anyone paying attention to all the liberal left wing lawyers and Minnesota Attorney General involved who is a Moveon.org promoter? Is anyone paying attention to the mere three precincts out of over 50 where votes mysteriously appeared, without* a recount even starting? Is anyone paying attention to how I am suing on behalf of voters who had their absentee ballots rejected due to inconsistencies whereupon I want to make my own lawyers determine the intentions of how they intended to vote, as in **for me? Is anyone paying attention to how the media is ignoring all this, unlike a similar situation in 2000 in Florida? Hey, I am a comedian, and that’s really all I’m qualified to be, even though my failed liberal left wing radio network was a good try against those repuglicans Rushannityboortz. The American people are dumbing down, and I’m proud as a Moveon.org liberal socialist moonbat to be a part of it. They don’t call us dirty rats for nothing.

By Chad Harris

November 14, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Whoops don’t want to mispell moron’s name—it’s Palin. Keep her talking. She wins elections for Dems in spades.

By What does it mean to be a Republican

November 14, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Has anyone else noticed that nearly flawless burnt orange “tan” that good old boy Saxby is sporting. What really makes it stand out as Oh So Faux though is the white around the eyes. That’s from wearing those little bitty shades that cover only the eyes while getting that otherwise perfectly applied “tan”. Sax, old boy, your vanity is showing.

By Chad Harris

November 14, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

Whoops don’t want to mispell moron’s name—it’s Palin. Keep her talking. She wins elections for Dems in spades.

By What does it mean to be a Republican

November 14, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

I just love this show from the Republican party so much I should be recording it to show future generations. It just has to be one of the strangest most bizarre comedic ironic calamities of all time — the 2008 election. We started off with McCain and Palin, the Maverick and his Rogue sidekick, attacking the Republican good old boys and all they stand for (while running as Republicans, no less). Of course, they went down in flames along with more Republican seats in Congress and now the Republicans are just soooo scared that they will lose their filibuster capability in the Senate, that they’re turning to another RINO (that’s Republican in Name ONLY) to help save the day. The Republican party must now turn to someone that voted for the 700 billion dollar bailout and everything else that is so NOT Republican to bail them out. They are now willing to place their faith at the feet of a RINO that has bragged about reaching across the aisle to his Democratic comrades in order to pass those big spending bills time and time again. You just gotta love it. This is Great. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Keep up the good work, Republicans. You really know how to put on a show. Just as a side note on increasing your audience at your next rally, you might want to try for Tina Fey instead of Sarah Palin.

By AmVet

November 14, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

Some here seem to have convenient and enormous difficulties with standard written English, as well as with basic definitions.

I agree that Saxbe (sic) affirmed that Mad Max lacked the courage to lead – a true statement…

Belatedly, an admission that my counterpoint is factual.

Yet nowhere is there ANY factual evidence to support his false assertion that Six deferment Saxby EVER said it was Cleland’s JUDGMENT he faulted.

For a man who should know that words have precise meanings, I still contend that cloaked prevarication is the easy way out, especially when arguments are lacking any basis in reality.

Lying - to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive. to express what is false; convey a false impression.

When a man repeats a lie often enough, even a bald face one, he and a few other undiscerning fools believe it as truth. We’ve seen this constantly from the right-wing zealots in the White House “trickling down” to the “center-right” zombies in Dixie and in other stagnant backwater outposts.

And when exposed as intentionally disingenuous? The typical response - the exposure it is not an argument, it is an epithet.

BTW the Patriot Act and Dept of Homeland Security are about as antithetical to actual American conservatism as can be imagined.

One of the innumerable reasons, the GOP has gotten beaten like a Dusty rug in the past two elections.

Get used to it. More are coming…

By Ragnar

November 14, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Below are some facts that motivate me to vote for Martin in the run-off: Chambliss… … Voted with Bush better than 90% of the time over the last almost eight years. … Supports amnesty for illegals. … Was not able to save one military base in Georgia. … Has consistentlyvoted for the interests of corporations and the fats. … is now running against Pelosi, Reid, and his own performance record. Perhaps most importantly, Chambliss should not be rewarded for poor performance on behalf of the middle class of Georgia.

By Chad Harris

November 14, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

@ Al Frankenstein here at 12:41PM—

I’d direct your attention to the bottom line. Franken is infinitely more qualified than Norm Coleman and you would have realized that had you either 1) listened to him lately (nothing to do with SNL or standup)or seen the array of talent he had on his Air America show.

I’m not going to persuade you to move to Minnesota and vote for him in any future election or recount.

But I can educate you to the bottom line.

Every state has tweaked the Senate election, just like the repate cascade of Rethug tweaks that backfire on them in Georgia everytime they have problems with a runoff.

There is no concerete evidence for the vote fraud you allege and as usual you can’t link to a scintilla of it.

In Minnesota, what will happen whoever wins the recount is that votes will be canvassed by a Committee including Republican judges in the state of Minnesota and a federal district jude or two. Step 2 will be litigation by Colemanif he loses, or Franken if he loses. Step 3 which will put Franken in the Senate will be a determination by the US Senate as to who wins. (I would refer you to an obscure event called the general election that occurred on November 2, 2008 where the Dems have picked up **6 seats so far—Oregon, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Virginia, New Mexico and Colorado. One will be appointed by the Democratic Governor of Illinois—hopefully Tammy Duckworth who deserves it and would make an excellent Senator. Unlike Chambliss who draft dodged because he is a coward, as is his son, Duckworth lost her legs flying a chopper in Iraq—and her husband is there now serving unlike Chambliss.

I’m happy to provide your continuing political/election education CPEE for Minnesota. You can’t change it and here’s the way it goes down mah friend and I didn’t make these rules just as I didn’t set the rules for the current runoff in Georgia:

Under the Constitution and Senate Rule II, the United States Senate remains the judge of the returns of this election. The certification of election results by Minnesota Secretary of State Mark Ritchie is only prima facie evidence of who actually won. But absent clear evidence of real fraud, Coleman will have a hard time persuading his colleagues to question the state’s count if it concludes that Franken is the victor.

Documentation:

Minnesota SOS Election Law http://www.sos.state.mn.us/home/index.asp?page=4

Why Al Franken Will Be the New Senator in Minnesota Come 2009

http://www.alternet.org/democracy/106625/whyalfrankenwillbeminnesota’snext_senator/?page=entire

I’m happy to have made a decent attempt to educate you as to the Senate Rule II and the law in Minnesota.

By Left Nuts

November 14, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Here’s your war hero!!

Wanted to stay and have a few beers? Reaches for a grenade laying on the ground?

More like Darwins theory that did not quite work!

I know that you will defend him. Someone else claims to have dropped the grenade 30 years later, yea right. Where is his Purple Heart? Explain that one away.

“Finally, the battle at Khe Sanh was over. Cleland, 25 years old, and two members of his team were now ordered to set up a radio relay station at the division assembly area, 15 miles away. The three gathered antennas, radios and a generator and made the 15-minute helicopter trip east. After unloading the equipment, Cleland climbed back into the helicopter for the ride back. But at the last minute, he decided to stay and have a beer with some friends. As the helicopter was lifting off, he shouted to the pilot that he was staying behind and jumped several feet to the ground.

“Cleland hunched over to avoid the whirring blades and ran. Turning to face the helicopter, he caught sight of a grenade on the ground where the chopper had perched. It must be mine, he thought, moving toward it. He reached for it with his right arm just as it exploded, slamming him back and irreparably altering his plans for a bright, shining future.”

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Dear Devastator @ 12:32, agree on tax cuts. Tax cuts are always good, tax increases are always damaging for the economy. Emanuel knows that, he’ll rein in the worst of Barack. “its just that when whites feel threatened, its a whole ‘nother story.” I think that true, and not just in the black-white dichotomy – threats and restrictions rarely endear the threatened to the threatener, or the other way around. If Obama is smart enough to learn from history – the judge is still out on that one – he will preach a doctrine to magnify freedom, not one to control the lives of Americans more closely. That is the ultimate lesson of conservative logic. As to the relevance of MLK, he was simply a nonfactor – the only time I remember ever hearing white people talk about him was when he died, mostly stuff like, “too bad, seemed like a decent sort of fellow.” He really did nothing that persuaded white people to simply accept black people.

Dear Chad @ 12:33, I know humor flies past leftists, other than our friend “Tom Becker,” but the “nail” thing was pretty obviously humor, ark ark. Chill, bro.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

I call for the utter, irrevocable elimination of taxes, be they sales, property, estate, ad valorem, capital gains, etc. In the immortal words of the great Milton Friedman (whose epic tome Capitalism and Freedom I particularly recommend):”I am in favor of cutting taxes under any circumstances and for any excuse, for any reason, whenever it’s possible.” To favor the reduction of taxes, you see, is to favor no taxation whatsoever; true reduction is only accomplished when there’s nothing left to reduce.

Socialism is antithetical to the efficiencies inherent in free markets. When I gaze at Obama and his coterie of leftist ideologues, I cant help but be reminded of the Bolsheviks at the Prague Paty Conference in 1912. “Red” any good books lately?

By Matilda

November 14, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

Is “Left Nuts” trying to tell us that deployed United States soldiers who are wounded in any fashion other than by direct combat with an enemy are idiots who should not reproduce? Or is he saying that a soldier is Un-American if he decides to share a cold one with his brothers in arms? Or is he saying that we simply should not give a s—t one way or another about any soldier who is not killed or mortally wounded by enemy fire? (Pat Tillman’s family would likely want clarification on this as well.) Perhaps the “How We Support the Troops” handbook, by Karl Rove and the Swiftboat Patriots will provide more answers, since “Left Nuts’” assertions are murkey at best. REAL patriots want to know!

By Vets for Martin

November 14, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Ragnar Danneskjöld November 14, 2008 10:38 AM

I live in August, I am retired from the Army after 27 years of service. My wife and I volunteer in the hospital at Fort Gordon. From personal experience I can tell you Saxby Draft Dodger is no friend of the Vet. If you will come out here you can spend a day with the Vets and do something useful, rather that defend a coward.

By @@

November 14, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Told ‘ya, Jim. Little hands can loosen tight nuts….speaking of which

‘Ya know Convert……..I normally read your posts with a giggle, then move on. Sometimes, you overreach and this is one of those times.

Gone or here, they will still be morans.

Fear not my leftist wink. I’ve read where the dems are encouraging PrezE Obama to rejoin the U.N. in their pursuit of global pro-abortion rights.

The Center for Reproductive Rights (CRR) has already called for President-elect Obama to renew America’s commitment to “reproductive rights” which, according to CRR, prominently includes a right to abortion. So how do we know, he’s agreeable?

Obama has spoken out against US refusal to fund the UN Population Fund (UNFPA), a United Nations (UN) agency that promotes population control, fertility reduction, and abortion all over the world. UNFPA helped the Chinese government set up and run its one-child policy, which has resulted in upwards of 100 million abortions, many of them forced or coerced.

When it comes to children with disabilities in China, it’s best to get the info directly from “The People’s Daily”.

800 000- 1 200 000 disabled babies are born in China each year, which is 4-6% of the total annual birth ratio (i.e. 4-6% of the total number of children born each year). This, supposedly, has a great negative influence on the nation’s development. (I’m assuming they mean progressive development)

The People’s Daily quoted a member of the State Population and Family Planning Committee saying that if drastic measures to control the ratio of disabled new born babies isn’t taken, it will be very difficult to reach the aim set up to reduce the annual rate of disabled new born babies to under 3% by 2020.

With the highly insufficient social security system of China, (something we, too have working against us here in the U.S.) raising and caring for a disabled child could be a great economical burden for the huge parts of the population who are living in utter poverty. (Utter poverty, that’s something PrezE Obama has planned for us through his economic policies)

Not to be outdone by a spokesman from China’s Family Planning Committee, one of the directors of the China Disabled Persons’ Federation, a couple of years ago, was asked about education for disabled children. Specifically “how far China was pursuing a policy of early intervention, to identify and address problems in early infancy.”

Keep in mind that I work in early intervention for children with disabilities — it makes all the difference in whether a child will grow up to be fully or partially self-sufficient or totally dependent on either the government. China’s definition of early intervention?

“Oh yes,” replied director Wang, “We do have a rigorous policy of early intervention. We try and identify congenital abnormalities before birth to reduce the number of disabled children who are born.”

Were it not for NGOs and private individuals attempting to help the disabled in China, they would be left in pens with the livestock to be slopped during feeding time.

So Convert….up until I saw two leftists at Luckovich’s support China’s right to coerced abortion and call for a U.S. mandate to control our population, I thought of you leftists as amusing but harmless. After reading those comments, I became accutely aware of how dangerous and/or ignorant you people are.

And btw, the majority of your kind have shown how little respect they have for those who, through no fault of their own, were born to struggle with their liberal use of the word “retard”. Instead, they choose to give up the struggle and hand themselves over to the democratic party.

You have a good day too Convert.

As to your column, Jim…PrezE Obama has already lost. All of those areas where he sought to implement change are deteriorating as I type.

Afghanistan will be far more difficult than Iraq. Germany has announced that they will be pulling their troops out.

Pakistan has been forced to accept money from the IMF, with conditions set forth by the U.S. This has met with great resistance from the Pakistani people. Without a military coup to overthrow the government, it’ll be a loose nuke for Mr. Cool and Collected.

The only thing working in his favor is that Ahmadinejad is facing serious problems at home — something that this administration has worked hard to insure.

The Kurdish government is now working WITH Turkey to oust the PKK.

Israel has sent the message to Obama, that his intervention in peace negotiations will not be needed except from a distance and in the form of support for their (Israel’s) efforts

Sarkozy is enjoying some success with Putin’s BMD plans although I’m certain it’s only temporary. I have no doubt that Obama would be putty in Russia’s hands. We’ll have to wait and see if Hillary as SoS can succeed in protecting him from his own naivete.

By AGTFan

November 14, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Hey Ragnar can we get some of what you’ve been smoking. I saw the add and remember the campaign vividly. Chambliss waged the sleaziest campaign in modern political history.

BTW - Are you pro-choice or anti-choice? You call yourself a conservative but support the government taking control of a woman’s individual medical decisions. You are anti-choice and by logical extrapolation anti-freedom.

By REPUBLICANS EVIL TIME IS UP

November 14, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

NOTICE HOW ALL THESE SUXBY NEO-NAZI CONFAGDERATES SUPPORTERS NEVER EVER EVER SPEAK ABOUT FACTS IT SHOWS WHY GEORGIA IS 50TH IN THE WHOLE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ITS THE HICKS IN THE MOUNTAINS AND SOUTH GA THAT REFUSE TO LEARN ANYTHING IM GLAD SONNY PERDUE SOLD THE REDNECKS OUT WITH THE CONFAGDERATE FLAG AND NOW SUXBY SHAMELESS IS SELLING THEIR DUMBA*ES OUT WITH THEIR JOBS AND TAXES LET SUXBY FOOL YALL HICKS AGAIN BY STANDING BY THE CONFAGDERATE FLAG SCREAMING DIXIE THAT SHT IS OUT THE WINDOW ONCE YOU FOOLS ELECT HIM AGAIN. P.S. THE SOUTH WITH DIXIE WILL NEVER RISE DEATH TO DIXIE AND THE CONFAGDERATE FLAG YOU EMBRED COWARDS WHO PREACH WAR BUT SCARED TO STAND-UP AND PHYSICALLY GO FIGHT FOR WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN LIKE GET THE TERRORIST, LETS PUT ALL YALL THATS CHICKENHAWKS AND A PLANE AND DROP YALL RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IRAQ SO YOU CAN FIGHT THE TERRORIST.

By Vets for Martin

November 14, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

Left Nuts November 14, 2008 1:09 PM

You are as disgusting as the coward Saxby.. How did you serve your country?? Have you ever seen a real grenade?

By Richard

November 14, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

“REPUBLICANS EVIL TIME IS UP” pass on your address if you got the guts and We can start with you dumbass. Richard a South Georgian

By Famuan

November 14, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

* Jim Wooten and those of his ilk are why the GOP is a joke. Old white men who thought they were the king-makers. Well, apparently not so. The demographics are changing but they wanna cling to this antiquated 50s era mentality. The only places where Republicans made gains in the election were counties throughout Appalachia, extremely rural, extremely illiterate and not diverse at all. Just the kind of voter the GOP feeds into.*

By Richard

November 14, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

“REPUBLICANS EVIL TIME IS UP ” If you got the guts pass on your address and I will start with your dumb a*

Richard from South GA

By Ga Values

November 14, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Ragnar Danneskjöld 1:27 PM

What is your position on all the spending earmarks that your boy Saxby has put into law?? Is giving a $437,000,000.00 Subsidity for Race horses a good thing?? How about the $192,000,000.00 Brewery that Saxby voted for in the Virgin Islands for an English company? How does that help our economy?

By Richard

November 14, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

“REPUBLICANS EVIL TIME IS UP ” If you got the guts pass on your address and I will start with your dumb a*. After I kick your dumb a* I’ll give you spelling lessons

Richard from South GA

By Famuan

November 14, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

* Jim Wooten and those of his ilk are why the GOP is a joke. Old white men who thought they were the king-makers. Well, apparently not so. The demographics are changing but they wanna cling to this antiquated 50s era mentality. The only places where Republicans made gains in the election were counties throughout Appalachia, extremely rural, extremely illiterate and not diverse at all. Just the kind of voter the GOP feeds into.*

By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST

November 14, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

SAXBY ECONOMICS

Citigroup’s stock has plunged and it is mired in red ink — but the worst may not be over for the banking giant led by Vikram S. Pandit.

As Mr. Pandit completes his first year as Citi’s chief executive, the company is bracing for still more pain now that a recession is at hand, The New York Times’s Eric Dash writes.

“If you look at their loss rate, it is almost inevitable that Citi is going to be asking the government for more money next year,” Christopher Whalen, managing partner at Institutional Risk Analytics, told The Times.

Citi still needs to hand out pink slips to 9,100 workers to meet its previously announced goals, and bankers are bracing for much of the bad news to arrive early next week, The Times reported.

And while there are no formal plans for further job cuts, executives say it is possible that Citigroup could shed an additional 25 percent of its work force by the end of next year, The Times said.

Richard D. Parsons, one of the company’s most outspoken directors, said Thursday that the board was fully behind Mr. Pandit and Winfried F. W. Bischoff, its executive chairman, as it braced for a difficult 2009.

Mr. Pandit, for his part, led a group of Citigroup executives in buying 1.3 million Citigroup shares as the stock tumbled on Thursday.

By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST

November 14, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

SAXBY ECONOMICS

CIT Group, the century-old corporate lender, is the latest big financial institution to seek to transform itself into a bank holding company, giving the company access to the Treasury Department’s $250 billion capital-infusion program set aside for banks to stabilize the financial system.

By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST

November 14, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

Saxby Economics

Ninety percent of Merrill Lynch brokers who were offered bonuses to stay on with Bank of America had signed up for them as of late Thursday, The Wall Street Journal reported. Separately, Bank of America announced the names of the senior business heads for its corporate, commercial and investment banking operations on Thursday in an internal memo, obtained by Reuters.

By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST

November 14, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Saxby Economics

The government’s current financial bailout plan is akin to socialism, according to L. Dennis Kozlowski, and he told Fox Business that his misdeeds at Tyco pale in comparison to what happened at the American International Group, Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns.

By BY EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP

November 14, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

RICHARD FROM SOUTH GA THE TRUTH I MEAN THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH HURTS YOU SOUTHERN HILLBILLIES YOU ARE READY TO FIGHT ME BUT THAT ANGER NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT ON THE TERRORIST YOU EMBRED COWARD TAKE ALL THAT ANGER DOWN TO YOUR LOCAL MARINE ENLIST OFFICE AND ENLIST WITH THE MARINES SINCE YOU ARE SO READY TO FIGHT, MY POINT PROVEN YOU HICKS ARE COWARDS THAT SPEAK FROM BEHIND A COMPUTER WHILE THE POOR WHITES BLACKS AND HISPANICS FIGHT FOR YOUR COWARD A** MEET ME UP HERE IN ATLANTA TO JOIN THE LOCAL MARINES TO FIGHT FOR YOUR COUNTRY YOU COWARD RICHARD. P.S. YOU ARE PROBABLY 65 YEARS OLD AND MAD THAT OBAMA IS YOUR NEW PRESIDENT ELECT AND SUXBY WILL BE FIRED DEC 2ND.

By jesus christ

November 14, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

their is no love of man with such a blatantly partisan statement, try to be a bigger man woot. I am. I am conservative, but believe in two party system, we deserved to lose, I hope we right the ship, in the meantime good luck to the new administration and my new president, also I tip my cap to to the Bush for leavin the office in a dignified manner.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Dear HIDT @ 1:27, not bad, I wish I had written that. You forgot about the elimination of the government portion, but you’re half way there.

Dear AGTF @ 1:36, you misread me. I favor abortions. Good conservative girls do not have abortions, that is one of those leftist sacraments. So for every beating heart “quietened” by an abortionist we have one fewer leftist who deserves to be strangled in the cradle. No, I favor abortions, the more the merrier. I wish all leftists would abort all of their babies.

Dear GA Values @ 1:53, I think the earmarks enacted by the democrat Congress are repugnant, and that includes those tidbits they threw to Saxbe. The solution of course is a line-item veto. I would favor enacting a line item veto for Obama. Not gonna happen with leftists in control of Congress. Did happen with Newt in control, if you will remember, but the leftist majority of the Supreme Court threw it out. Leftists are the problem, not the solution.

By ron

November 14, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Ragnar,——-I think Chad Harris is incarcerated somewhere.I’m retired and I have less spare time than he does.

Chad——-Let us all know when they call you to pick the Secretary of State will you? We all want to cheer you on.

By Dusty

November 14, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Dear Matilda @1:30,

The only thing you need to know about “LeftNUts (1:09) is that he is a TOTAL NUT.

Maybe you haven’t heard by now but there is NO Karl Rove book on “How We Support the Troops”. Most Americans know how to support the troops without being told.

Perhaps you have been misinformed by liberals who still undermine the Bush Administration and our combat efforts. Or perhaps you have not heard about the success of the surge under the direction of General Petraeus and Commander-in-Chief George W. Bush.

Perhaps, you might even be reading anti-war material also put out by liberals. In any case, I hope your outlook will change. Right now you sound more like a directed liberal than any other designation.

At 1:30 we get ANOTHER NUT CASE. Ignore that one also.

By ND

November 14, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

What an idiotic article. First of all, it is pretty disrespectful that you choose not even to refer to Allen Buckley by his name. Secondly, I voted for Obama for president and Buckley for senate, so not every Buckley vote was a Republican. Thirdly, why should any free market capitalist who supports competition not support similar competition in the political sphere? Saxby Chambliss and Jim Martin are both bad choices to represent Georgia nationally, so it makes perfect sense to vote for Buckley. How much is the Republican Party paying you to write this column, Jim Wooten?

By Ron Mexico

November 14, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Ok, you Obamabots, this requires that you think for a minute. Can you tell me how Jim Martin would have voted on the $700/5 trillion bailout bill?

Oh thats right, he would have been standing in line, waiting to be the first to vote for this… So that argument doesnt hold any water.

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

November 14, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

. I wish all leftists would abort all of their babies.

Raggie, I thought all you Nazis purported to value all human life. Like everything else you say, it’s just another damn lie, isn’t it?

By Richard

November 14, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Well I see you do now how to use spell check. I have more good news for you that I also live in Atlanta. I also served 22 years for My Country.

Retired Lt. Col Richard Lewis United States Marine Corp.

PS: BY EVIL REPUBLICANS TIME IS UP,Im still looking for that address

By DebbieDoRight

November 14, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

Jim: Georgia is a red state. It does not knowingly elect liberals statewide.

Georgia is also on the bottom of the educaional pole, I think it’s number 48 out of 50 correct? That’s probably why it’s a “red” state; too many ignorant old men, (like you), still clingy to their confederate flags, their confederate anger, and their divisive speech. I guess the “real americans”, the ones who truly care about America and not about just winning elections like Saxby; will be honored when you old folks finally dry out and go away.

From Geek: John Mc Cain should know better. While he has shown he would do anything to get elected, there was a line that even he would not cross, he got Palin to do that for him.

I think he’s doing the GOPs dirty work because he has outstanding bills from the election. It costs quite a bit to outfit Palin and her whole family.

From Ragnar: One of the strategies of the National Socialists is to flood blogs, especially conservative blogs, with postings by faux conservatives reflecting dissatisfaction with the imperfect, and “preferring” the known opposition

Yeah, you keep tellin yourself that.

From Ragnar: While I do not minimize the foundation works in the movement that preceded the Great Depression, the line that brought our black brothers into full social integration begins with Joe Louis. Jack Johnson notwithstanding, white America wrongly believed black Americans were inferior in every respect – intellectually

Have you taken to plagerism? I saw this exact same article in….Time(?) At least give the originator credit for their work, don’t pass it off as your own! How “republican” of you.

From Ragnar: NY Times: C.I.A. Chief Says Qaeda Is Extending Its Reach / CNN: CIA head says bin Laden isolated, fighting to survive

Your slip is showing again. Bin Laden started Al Quaeda; but he’s not it’s only member. You can have Al-Q extending its reach and BL fighting to survive at the same time. Sort of like you can have hamburger and fries; but not eat the fries.

By Left Nuts

November 14, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Vet for the Martins (1:51) I guess the truth hit a nerve with you.

And yes I did serve, two tours, 68-70 in the 19th AVN, as a crew chief on a CH-47 Med-vac. And yes, I’ve seen a few ‘real grenades’ as well as having thrown a few.

Being a klutz and blowing yourself up does not make you a war hero. To parade yourself as one after doing what he did speaks volumes about a person’s characters.

Did he serve his country in time of war? Yes he did. But a war hero he is not.

Has he served his country as a politician, yes he has. Do I agree with his politics? No and I for one was glad to see him not get reelected.

By Chad Harris

November 14, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

@Ragnar Danneskjöld :

Dear Chad @ 12:33, I know humor flies past leftists, other than our friend “Tom Becker,” but the “nail” thing was pretty obviously humor, ark ark. Chill, bro.

No idea what this means but I do know that alleging 200,000 individuals voted without voting for the Senate and saying it appeared in xyz papers or on xyz sites isn’t documentation.

I’d still like to see documentation as to how many voted for President but didn’t vote for the Senate—

how many voted for McSame the loser but failed to vote for Senate

and how many voted for President-e;ect Obama but failed to vote for Senate.

I’m sure happy that Franken and Begesh will become Senators. That will make 8 gains and Martin would make 9.

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

November 14, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

By Richard November 14, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this “REPUBLICANS EVIL TIME IS UP ” If you got the guts pass on your address and I will start with your dumb a. After I kick your dumb a I’ll give you spelling lessons

Jim, the post I’ve copied here is a terroristic threat and the author should be banned!

By Ga Values

November 14, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

I need some of Saxby’s Mexicans, when it rains I have to take care of the horses. I have a Orange tractor & it breaks down less than the Green tractor I had. A nice man from Mansfield comes out to fix it when it breaks. My wife has small hands but doesn’t do tractors.

Here’s a really good David Brooks article from this morning’s NYT::

By DAVID BROOKS Published: November 14, 2008 Not so long ago, corporate giants with names like PanAm, ITT and Montgomery Ward roamed the earth. They faded and were replaced by new companies with names like Microsoft, Southwest Airlines and Target. The U.S. became famous for this pattern of decay and new growth. Over time, American government built a bigger safety net so workers could survive the vicissitudes of this creative destruction — with unemployment insurance and soon, one hopes, health care security. But the government has generally not interfered in the dynamic process itself, which is the source of the country’s prosperity.

But this, apparently, is about to change. Democrats from Barack Obama to Nancy Pelosi want to grant immortality to General Motors, Chrysler and Ford. They have decided to follow an earlier $25 billion loan with a $50 billion bailout, which would inevitably be followed by more billions later, because if these companies are not permitted to go bankrupt now, they never will be.

This is a different sort of endeavor than the $750 billion bailout of Wall Street. That money was used to save the financial system itself. It was used to save the capital markets on which the process of creative destruction depends.

Granting immortality to Detroit’s Big Three does not enhance creative destruction. It retards it. It crosses a line, a bright line. It is not about saving a system; there will still be cars made and sold in America. It is about saving politically powerful corporations. A Detroit bailout would set a precedent for every single politically connected corporation in America. There already is a long line of lobbyists bidding for federal money. If Detroit gets money, then everyone would have a case. After all, are the employees of Circuit City or the newspaper industry inferior to the employees of Chrysler?

It is all a reminder that the biggest threat to a healthy economy is not the socialists of campaign lore. It’s C.E.O.’s. It’s politically powerful crony capitalists who use their influence to create a stagnant corporate welfare state.

If ever the market has rendered a just verdict, it is the one rendered on G.M. and Chrysler. These companies are not innocent victims of this crisis. To read the expert literature on these companies is to read a long litany of miscalculation. Some experts mention the management blunders, some the union contracts and the legacy costs, some the years of poor car design and some the entrenched corporate cultures.

There seems to be no one who believes the companies are viable without radical change. A federal cash infusion will not infuse wisdom into management. It will not reduce labor costs. It will not attract talented new employees. As Megan McArdle of The Atlantic wittily put it, “Working for the Big Three magically combines vast corporate bureaucracy and job insecurity in one completely unattractive package.”

In short, a bailout will not solve anything — just postpone things. If this goes through, Big Three executives will make decisions knowing that whatever happens, Uncle Sam will bail them out — just like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. In the meantime, capital that could have gone to successful companies and programs will be directed toward companies with a history of using it badly.

The second part of Obama’s plan is the creation of an auto czar with vague duties. Other smart people have called for such a czar to reorganize the companies and force the companies to fully embrace green technology and other good things.

That would be great, but if Obama was such a fervent believer in the Chinese model of all-powerful technocrats, he should have mentioned it during the campaign. Are we really to believe there exists a czar omniscient, omnipotent and beneficent enough to know how to fix the Big Three? Who is this deity? Are we to believe that political influence will miraculously disappear, that the czar would have absolute power over unions, management, Congress and the White House? Please.

This is an excruciatingly hard call. A case could be made for keeping the Big Three afloat as a jobs program until the economy gets better and then letting them go bankrupt. But the most persuasive experts argue that bankruptcy is the least horrible option. Airline, steel and retail companies have gone through bankruptcy proceedings and adjusted. It would be a less politically tainted process. Government could use that $50 billion — and more — to help the workers who are going to be displaced no matter what.

But the larger principle is over the nature of America’s political system. Is this country going to slide into progressive corporatism, a merger of corporate and federal power that will inevitably stifle competition, empower corporate and federal bureaucrats and protect entrenched interests? Or is the U.S. going to stick with its historic model: Helping workers weather the storms of a dynamic economy, but preserving the dynamism that is the core of the country’s success.

By making

November 14, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

I hope Obama doesn’t fail but here’s a man that hasn’t even taken the oath of office and he talking about how he’s going to rethink his tax plan…which we all knew, because you need the revenue for all his programs. What’s next on his rethinking agenda???

By Disgusted

November 14, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Granting immortality to Detroit’s Big Three does not enhance creative destruction. It retards it.

Hey, Ga Values. Careful with your wording. Use some word other than retards. You’ll get @@ on your case even harder than she got on Redneck’s.

By dave

November 14, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Jim,

My friend, a third party candidate is also useful for sending a message from disatisfied conservatives to a Republican Senator. While I would never vote for Jim Martin, I am waiting to see where our Senator stands on the Auto (Union) bailout, before decide if I stay home or not. Maybe six years from now we’ll have a chance to vote for a real conservative.

By AmVet

November 14, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

A copy of the email I just sent to the “courageous” Saxby supporters at nationalrepublicantrust.com:

So you are the neo-con equivalent of MoveOn.org?

And you are proud of that???

As a Vietnam-era veteran who lives in Georgia, I can assure you we are not going to sit by and idly watch this disgraceful man go back to his anti-veteran, socialist agenda in Washington.

Your party has suffered two consecutive humiliations in the most recent Congressional elections - something along the lines of 62 - 4.

Keep up the good work.

Sincerely,

Just doing my part to keep the morale high out there on the lunatic fringe…

By Chad Harris

November 14, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

David Brooks, Tom Friedman, myself and a lot of people here are on the same page when it comes to Detroit bailouts or any of the insipid stealing from Americans to take care of a wealthy elete or politically powerful and lobbyist supporting few. It amused me to see that hedge fund honchos were recommending more revelations by their secretive predominantly non-regulated selves.

What to Do About the Big Three? By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN Published November 11th 2008 | 63 Ideas

We have a new president-elect, and he (with his predecessor) is facing an old problem: what to do about the Big Three automakers? These companies haven’t been innovative or competitive in the marketplace in a generation or more. Now General Motors is looking to the federal government to offer a big aid package to keep the company in business and keep its many thousands of employees working. There is little doubt Ford and Chrysler will follow suit.

This poses a conundrum for anyone committed to bringing about a new Clean Energy System like the one I describe in Hot, Flat, and Crowded. Is it a good idea for the government to rescue GM with a financial package like the ones offered to Wall Street earlier this year, or is such a rescue a way of stimulating ignorance and rewarding the worst offenders, the foes of energy innovation?

If Washington does offer a rescue plan, what terms should the government ask for to hold the Big Three accountable in the new era we are in? Can we really expect the automakers to finally try in earnest to produce plug-in hybrids and other vehicles that use fuel in cleaner, more efficient ways? Is there a good way for the government to extend the rescue to the more competitive, innovative automakers—Honda and Toyota—so that they can take roles in leading the auto business into the Energy-Climate Era at last?

I am eager for your thoughts. Thanks for taking an interest in Chapter 18.

By Ga Values

November 14, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Hope this works but the link is at the bottom..Saxby got roughly 180,000 less votes than McCain, Martin got roughly 85,000 less than Obama, & Buckley got 100,000 MORE votes than Barr. This is what you get when the Republicans run a sorry Candidate like Saxby.. If Buckley had $2 million to spend he would have won. Saxby has spent over $13 million, Martin about $3.5 Million, and Buckley spent less than $.025 Million(that’s $25,000)

President… John McCain.. Republican.. 2,048,744.. 52.2%..
Barack Obama.. Democratic.. 1,844,137.. 47.0%..
Bob Barr.. Libertarian.. 28,812.. 0.7%..

Saxby Chambliss.. Republican.. 1,867,090.. 49.8% ..
Jim Martin.. Democratic.. 1,757,419.. 46.8%..
Allen Buckley.. Libertarian.. 128,002.. 3.4%..

http://www.sos.georgia.gov/elections/electionresults/20081104/swfed.htm

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Dear Algonquin @ 2:23, we discovered long ago that humor and sarcasm are wasted on leftist “minds.”

Dear Debbie @ 2:25, “From Ragnar… Have you taken to plagerism? I saw this exact same article in….Time(?) At least give the originator credit for their work, don’t pass it off as your own! How “republican” of you..” While I readily admit to stealing every idea that I have ever had in my life, I have not read a Time Magazine since the 1970s. Just your over-active imagination at work. (But I’m flattered that you think my original composition, composed entirely from personal memory and analysis, and posted in first draft form, is worthy of whatever remains of Luce’s legacy.)

Dear Chad @ 2:31, you need to stop mixing your medications. I think you are answering a post by someone else. I did mock your line about Sullivan “nailing” Palin; I fear your umbrage distorts your thinking now.

By Terrill

November 14, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

“Blowing up buildings is not terrorism” — Bill Ayers on GMA November 14, 2008

“”God knows that it had not occurred to our mind to attack the towers, but after our patience ran out and we saw the injustice and inflexibility of the American-Israeli alliance toward our people in Palestine and Lebanon, this came to my mind,” he said.” — Osama Bin Laden Oct. 29, 2004

The shared brain of terrorism!

Don’t you just hate it when the media dupes the voter?

By Dusty

November 14, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

Georgia Values,2:35

The very sad thing about David Brooks is the fact that he put little support to McCain. Wishy washy! He knew Obama was basicly a socialist but Brooks would not strongly support McCain.

I listen to him on Lehrer News Hour and sometimes I wish the program had a real Republican to offset Shields who is all out Democrat. Brooks gets too “meditative” about issues and comes up looking murky instead.

Now we have Obama and his socialism. You can fight it but it is rather late in the game to denounce his well known tendencies. We gave away the backbone of our country for eloquence and charisma. So that is what we have left.

By making

November 14, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

As for the big 3 car makers…merge ALL three into one…USAuto…try to keep the loss of jobs for all three to no more than 10%. If you buy a car from USAuto you recieve a $1000 tax credit…if you buy a foreign car, you pay a $5000 tax penalty. Americans must learn to support their country and workers!!! Quit making the other countries richer and powerful.

By Ga Values

November 14, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Dusty 2:59 PM

I am shocked you admit to watching PBS, I hope you pay your part. Brooks offered constuctive ideas to McCain but McCain chose to go another way. I view Jim as a Hack because of his Ra..Ra on Saxby the Socialist. I assume that Brooks has another zero in them, so the AJC probably gets their money’s worth.

By Chad Harris

November 14, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

@Dusty—

Brooks is smart enough to realize that you’re dead in the water if you persist with the current crop of Retug Hopefuls in 2012 and persist in tacking way to the right as you do Dusty.

You have a couple choices. Change your policies and your demonization of Obama and Dems radically or persist in thinking Palin is idea Presidential of VP material and continue to lose elections and b*** kvetch, b*** kvetch on blogs.

I don’t wish unhappiness on most people, but those of you who persist in thinking that tacking way to the right is going to help you in elections are in for huge frustration for the rest of your lives.

By Keeping It Real

November 14, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Jawja and the rest of the south are still living in dreams of yesterday. For once, I agree with Confederate Wooten and the good old boys. Why should Obama come to a state where race rules and fear of someone that looks different over rules common sense. We have an idiot Congressman who cries Marxist and a Senator who attacks a war hero to get elected. I am surprized that McCain would come here to support him. I wonder why little Sarah didn’t come to build up her credits for 2012. I wonder if the republican party is capable of ridding itself of their holier than thou mantra?

By ..... Georgia Republicans- For MARTIN

November 14, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

SAXBY IS ALREADY A LOSER

By Sore losers!

November 14, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Excuse me… But Mr. Obama won. What more do you need to know? Just because our backwards state refuses to let go of its crippling racism and archaic conservative philosophies does not mean the rest of the country is not moving forward with this new president.

By Maniac is accurate

November 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

Well, I’ve been readin’ (some) and not writin’ (OK I cheated a couple of times, but not as anyone else) for a few weeks now. But when a service provider leaves a market, another moves in apparently. Those two earlier posts were not mine, Ragnar. They were good. Guess I’m out of business when I return for real on or after Inauguration Day. Have fun until then.

By Filbert

November 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

What do you mean START out a loser? Bwaaa haaa haaa haaa.

By Filbert

November 14, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this

What do you mean START out a loser? Bwaaa haaa haaa haaa.

By Call it Like it is

November 14, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

Talk about being mad, yea, I’m mad and disappointed that America elected a NON EXPERIENCED Socialist ROOKIE to run our country.

To all of you liberals, why do you all claim Republicans are racist when it was just recently your ex-beloved President Clinton that made the statement that the Obama crowd played the race card?

Second, it was a lot of Republican votes that helped pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964. So, where were the caring lower and middle-class loving Dems then and now? By the way, most Blacks are still government dependent. So how has the Dem Party ever helped them? Finally, it was just last year that one of your own said that the only way that a black person could be seen in the White House was if they were part of the wait staff! So where is the racisim? Clean up your own house before your finger-pointing begins.

Democrats only answer to anything is like the new Robin Hood Obama’s tax the tax payer and give to the non-tax payer.

Enough Said!

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

November 14, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

Raggie, you’re a funny guy! That strangling babies stuff is just hilarious.

By DebbieDoRight

November 14, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Second, it was a lot of Republican votes that helped pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

That was 1964 — this is 2008; it’s time to stop living in the past. Just let it go….

So, where were the caring lower and middle-class loving Dems then and now?

Voting and making changes in the world. The presidents what did they do when they left office? Carter—started Habitat for Humanity; Nixon—went out on paid speaking engagements. Clinton/BushI: On diplomatic assignments worldwide. Reagan: Home nursing his millions and his alzheimers. Ford:went out on paid speaking engagements. Dubya: Will probably finally learn how to eat pretzels without choking himself to death.

By the way, most Blacks are still government dependent.

PROVE IT. You make that blind statement, as so many republicans do, without facts. PROVE what you just said. HINT: I will need something from a government website and not anything you found on Hannity and Homeboy or the Bill O’Really show.

Finally, it was just last year that one of your own said that the only way that a black person could be seen in the White House was if they were part of the wait staff! So where is the racisim? Clean up your own house before your finger-pointing begins.

Good lord!! How old are you?!? Once again let me correct an error in the righty-religious-reich’s thinking: People don’t all think alike!!! I know! Amazing huh?! Just because ONE PERSON or maybe a group of people say something, that does not represent the sum of ALL people’s thoughts and/or opinions. Unlike the republican party, most Dems and Indies can “think for themselves” without their respective parties telling them what to think!!!!!

If only you religious reichs would recognize that……sigh……..

By Fred

November 14, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

If the GOP would embrace libertarian small-government, low-tax principles, that 3.4 percent would’ve gone to Saxby. Instead, he supported the baffling Dubai ports deal, the weak-kneed offshore oil-drilling ‘compromise’ with the Dems and the still-unfolding-how-disastrous Wall Street bailout.

Yes, I’ll vote for him in the runoff, but I’ll be holding my nose. And perhaps Saxby will rediscover ‘conservatism’ in his second term.

By jim is a caveman

November 14, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Ragweed, jokes or sarcasm about aborting babies are never funny under any circumstances.

The Secretary of State website shows 171,724 more votes for President than for the Senate candidates. Go to the secy’s website, and click on elections, then results. It’s not hard to find, though you do have do a little math. Not sure what the significance is, as Saxby didn’t get all the McCain votes either. Also, I think it will be some sort of miracle if nearly 4 million people come out for the run off. It probably won’t be anywhere near that, but I would guess that most people who do turn out voted in the Senate race on the 4th. So who cares if not everyone voted the first time around for Senator?

By yo mama is a #$%&@*

November 14, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

Oh, c’mon, it was a little funny.

By Condorcet

November 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

By your logic, why would Chambliss welcome McCain? He lost the biggest prize of them all.

At any rate, it’s not important to get to 60. You won’t find pure party line votes in any congress. There will be certain senators who will go the other side for varied reasons. Most have constituencies who wouldn’t welcome certain outcomes. I can tell you this though, no constituency will embrace a republican senator who embodies the obstructionism of the last few sessions.

By mister.earl

November 14, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

We’re A Winner

Obama reaching out to meet with John McCain on Monday is the sign of a person confident enough to bring former adversaries together as partners.

That is the certain sign of a winner who places the agenda of the country first.

Yes We Can

By catlady

November 14, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

Anyone want to talk about how Karen Handel jumped on the Fulton election officials for not getting the absentee ballots out to the mostly Republicans who requested them, but herself tried to disenfranchise tens of thousands of mostly Democrats?

Not getting the ballots out in a timely way is very bad. But so is trying to deny the vote to so many others.

Our local election officials “took away the vote” twice on my daughter by not getting the ballot to her in time for it to be counted. Now that she has one of “Gov Sonny’s” Republican request forms that came in the mail, I am betting she will get the ballot quickly.

Whether our President wants to spend his political capital on Martin’s campaign doesn’t matter. Saxby Chambliss, the shameless, must be defeated! The man has done nothing, in fact has HURT, the average Georgian over the last 6 years. Is that what you want to represent you? Someone who flip/flops on immigration reform, who flip/flops on the bailout? Can he play golf in those flip/flops?

By CommunistAJC

November 14, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

Yes. Obama will start out a loser. And so will the American people. We need to start learning Chinese now. We’ll all be taking orders very soon.

By Dusty

November 14, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

Georgia Values 3:09

I am shocked that you are shocked that I watch Lehrer News Hour, ‘specially since I have mentioned that fact several times on this blog. Lehrer tries to keep balanced opinions. That is why I like his program. That and the fact that it has a varied format. Why do you watch it?

I doubt that McCain took any advice from a newspaper columnist such as Brooks. Why should he? MxcCain has more experience of all kinds and can make up his own mind. He was a good candidate for sensible people but Obama won anyway. Talk about Ra Ra. Osama won on a more subtle form of it.

Chambliss will win and keep Congress from diving into the shallow end head on. And talking about shallow, Democrats in Congress are a crowd that would make a fairy godmother cry. Even magic couldn’t make that crowd look better.

Chad Harris,@3:14

You are acting high and mighty as usual and loaded with advice that no one requested.

To repeat well documented facts about Obama is not demonization unless he’s done it to himself. I don’t know anyone who made him work with Ayers or Wright or Rezko. Who is the demon?

Most of us are just waiting and hoping things go well. You are too busy finding fault with Republicans to even be helpful. Your vision is similar to the eye of a needle. I don’t have to tell you how small and narrow that is.

Why do you keep running down Sarah Palin? You afraid of her or just envious? She is not VP elect, just Governor of Alaska. You seem to lapse into a state of paranoia just because Republicans are around. Well, relax, because WE are going to be around a long time. Americans are not accustomed to socialism so it will not take long to tire of such dependence. IRS will be the starter.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 14, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this

Dear Debbie @ 2:25 again, it finally hit me why my argument rang familiar for you. Like all doddering old men, I have only 20 different ideas and another two dozen arguments. I probably posted that argument on this blog a year or two ago, and you just remembered it.

Dear HIDT @ 3:45, I’m shocked. One of those posts was really pretty good, and I just assumed you were getting back to speed. (Well, hurry back when you can join us regularly.) PoFo, was it you?

By Call It LIke It Is

November 14, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

Hey Debbie DUMB Right:

Do not have to prove it.

Most, except you already know this.

Second, there are more black males in our prisons than in college.

The problem is that you and most keep voting for Dems that have gotten you nowhere for the last 50 years.

By the way, the US has not been hit since 9/11.

Wonder why?

We had a Republican President in Office.

Enough Said!

By Eli Jones

November 14, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

Obama is sending all his Obamaphiles that he can muster to Georgia to campaign for his minion but Obama and Jim Martin will both lose. The Democrats being in complete control of America with no counter balance is the greatest danger facing our nation. That’s why I am voting for Saxby Chambliss.

By Just thinking

November 14, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

You ibs go ahead and gloat. you’ve got about 2 years to do it. The annoited one was elected only because voters under age 30 turned out in record numbers, for once, and voted 2-1 for him. But the economy is tankig and his tax polices will only accelerate the tanking. And what will the effect of that be? No entry level jobs. Once all these kids stay unemployed for 2 years they’re going to vote out the dems as fast as they voted out the reps. So enjoy the next 2 years; its all you’ll have.