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Roast Stevens, toast Handel, mourn loss of competition
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
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U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens, the Republican pork-barreller from Alaska, found guilty just before the election of seven felonies involving work done but not billed by contractors on a house he owns, stands shockingly on the verge of re-election. I’m convinced that one of the most pervasive forms of corruption in politics is not reporting improvements made on property politicians own, or getting contracts to provide services or advice to companies or organizations pursuing a public policy agenda.
Secretary of State Karen Handel gets the treatment that partisan Democrats accorded Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin — and that is to attempt to tarnish her so that she’s no future political threat to them. Conservative women and blacks do have that cross to bear. How about Palin-Jindal ticket (as in Louisiana Gov. Bobby) in 2012? Jindal-Palin works, too. For the record, Handel superbly managed a difficult election where partisans were gunning for something that would gin up Democratic turnout.
After all the partisan election hoopla is past, the General Assembly does need to establish a clear standard, not subject to interpretation, to determine where a candidate lives. A homestead exemption for those who own a home is the highest and best. While they’re at it, they should absolutely eliminate the requirement that members of the Public Service Commission live in districts. There’s no logical reason whatsoever for that provision.
In the Georgia House of Representatives, 16 seats had no incumbent. Of those, only one changed parties — that of Republican Robert Munford of Conyers, who retired knowing that his district had become solidly Democratic. It was, too. Democrat Toney Collins won with 62 percent of the vote. Only four of the 16 were even challenged by the other party. Redistricting software and the Voting Rights Act have virtually eliminated party competition.
Veteran Democratic legislator Jeanette Jamison of Toccoa lost Tuesday in one of those districts that has gone to the other party. She brought a great deal of good common sense as well as institutional, and education, knowledge to Atlanta. She could have switched parties but chose to remain a Democrat. It may have been principle, but probably was just stubbornness.
The left loves John McCain again. Nobody is quite so dear to them as the maverick Republican they once loved who loses.
Georgia State Sen. Vincent Fort (D-Atlanta) and I practiced unity across the great ideological divide — to no avail. We both opposed Amendment 2 and it squeaked by statewide.
A school in Jacksonville, Fla., has twice failed state assessment tests. So what are the adults concerned about? The school’s name. It’s Nathan Bedford Forrest High School.
California voters, despite the state’s Left Coast reputation, can be surprisingly sane. They affirmed that marriage is one man/one woman, and rejected a measure to ease punishment for drug offenders and another to require utilities to generate half of their power from “renewable” sources by 2025. Rejected too was a proposal that would have obligated California taxpayers for $325 million per year for renewable energy research. When voters discover who’s paying the tab for some group’s zealotry, sanity usually kicks in.
No sooner had Barack Obama been elected than the interest groups on the left jumped up to claim credit — or to interpret his win as evidence of the popularity of their cause. The anti-gun lobby is certain it represents a “crushing defeat” for the National Rifle Association. Others are certain it’s a green light for their “clean energy” agenda.
Yes, Barack Obama was elected and Democrats overwhelmingly control both houses of Congress — neither of which makes me happy. But this state survived Lester Maddox. The nation survived Watergate and Bill Clinton’s disrespect for his oath. Far more important and encouraging is news that for the first time researchers have decoded all the genes of a woman who died of leukemia, identifying a set of mutations that may have caused the disease to progress. Lesson: Politics has its place, but it’s not our whole life. And, yes, health care’s expensive: This study alone cost $1 million, and who wouldn’t have paid it?
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By TW
November 7, 2008 8:03 AM | Link to this
The left loves John McCain again. Nobody is quite so dear to them as the maverick Republican they once loved who loses
Keep in mind, Mr. Wooten, that ‘loser’ friend of the libs was the best you had to represent your party. The best you had…
I strongly recommend you open your mind, grab a pad and a pen, and take advantage of the eight year lesson in government you are about to receive :-)
By Mid-South Philosopher
November 7, 2008 8:05 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim.
A point you didn’t touch on this morning:
It looks as though Senate Majority Leader Harry “White Flag” Reid, bolstered by the gain of Democrat seats in the U.S. Senate as a result of Tuesday’s election, is taking “maverick,” Independent Democratic Senator Joseph Lieberman to the “woodshed”!
Following a conversation between the two in Washington on Thursday, there is now some real doubt that Lieberman will be allowed to retain his chairmanship of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security.
What Reid and the Democrats need to remember is that the American electorate is extremely fickle. Voters change with the wind. It was just a few short years ago that the Democrats were relying on the “filibuster” to keep them from being totally overwhelmed in the decisions-making process of the Senate. Now, they are back in power. I bet the Republicans are sure happy that they didn’t use the “nuclear option” as it was called then to forestall the “filibuster” process!
I would offer “White Flag” some advice, assuming that he is intelligent enough to understand it. Let Lieberman alone. Americans, on the whole, like a maverick. The notion of “lock-step,” party loyalty is embraced only by demigods and fools…like “White Flag.”
Remember, there is another Congressional Election in two years!
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 7, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I have little sympathy for Sen. Stevens, and that small amount I hold is due to his advanced age. He did not represent conservatism. The strange charge that led to his conviction may be unprecedented in criminal trials. I also believe the venue was wrong, that if there was any deception, it was the voters of Alaska who were deceived and should have tried the matter, not a DC jury. Normally that combination of odd charges and questionable venue suggests the target was “targeted,” that someone somewhere was investigating the person rather than any particular suggestion of criminality. The rule of law compels us to avoid such activities, that we should investigate crimes to see where they lead, rather than people to see what we can get. The recent evidence of income non-reporting by Rep Rangel is almost a perfect match for these charges against Sen. Stevens; indeed, Rangel’s tax evasion is a more traditional prosecution. To Jim’s point, I would support 534 more such investigations into “under-reported” personal favors.
Handel did a good job. Maybe she will run against Johnny. I think it ought to be Romney-Palin, then eight years later Palin-Jindal. Piyush will be only 57 in 2028.
I remain unsure of the logical reason for a PSC.
“16 seats had no incumbent….Redistricting software and the Voting Rights Act have eliminated party competition.” The parties have also realigned. Democrats are almost exclusively leftist – not more than a dozen conservatives at the national level. With the loss of the RINO presidential nominee and the defeat of the last northeast republican in the House of Representatives, there is no future for a Republican leftist. And moderates bring nothing to the debate anyway, other than an attitude of “I’m smarter than people who have a consistent philosophy, so I’ll be the decider in my own arbitrary way.”
Don’t know Ms. Jamison. If she is a leftist, she chose admirably to stick to her guns. If she is a conservative who stayed in the democrat party, she was not smart enough to pass the republican party entrance exams.
Leftists don’t really love McCain – they just tolerate wishy-washy republicans, knowing they can roll them at will. And tell Will to get out of the way.
As to Amendment 2, is that not the best evidence that Americans have learned to love Big Government. (I really wanted to say “Big Brother” there, but I’ll save that phrase for the Fairness Doctrine debates.)
The misguided concerns at Forrest School remind me of a funny story I need to tell sometime. Not now. I’m already past 425 words, and I don’t want to upset GGG.
I think one of Strunk’s rules is to never put “California” and “sanity” in the same sentence.
The leukemia story is fascinating. “Richard Wilson, a Ph.D. at the Washington University School of Medicine said: ‘We found 10 changes; 10 mutations in her tumor genome that may very well be related to her disease.’” In the meantime, the CDC discovers that eating wild game, killed by bullets, may introduce lead into the bloodstream. “The CDC report on human lead levels of hunters in North Dakota has confirmed what hunters throughout the world have known for hundreds of years, that traditional ammunition poses no health risk to people and that the call to ban lead ammunition was nothing more than a scare tactic being pushed by anti-hunting groups. As noted in a media advisory released by the North Dakota Department of Health, the highest lead level reading of an adult study participant was still below the CDC accepted lead level threshold for that of a child, and significantly lower than the CDC accepted lead level threshold for that of an adult.” No, I’m not going to suggest that the government entity was performing worthless research for a political agenda while the private entity was doing potentially highly-lucrative research that will save lives. No, that never crossed my mind.
Dear GGG, I am 16 words fewer than Jim today. So far.
By jojo
November 7, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this
I am truly surprised, Jim, that you would suggest that former Rep. Jamieson simply switch parties to retain her seat. Both her legislative record and issues related to her business would have sunk her as a repub. This was a good change rather than the expedient and short-sighted one you have suggested. We now have a rep. in Michael Harden that reflects the values of the district (which no longer receives printed editions of the ajc!) and will be an effective legislator.
By jojo
November 7, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this
I am truly surprised, Jim, that you would suggest that former Rep. Jamieson simply switch parties to retain her seat. Both her legislative record and issues related to her business would have sunk her as a repub. This was a good change rather than the expedient and short-sighted one you have suggested. We now have a rep. in Michael Harden that reflects the values of the district (which no longer receives printed editions of the ajc!) and will be an effective legislator.
By RED
November 7, 2008 8:12 AM | Link to this
How can any conservative vote for Martin?
Easy - to get rid of the liberal in GOP clothing who is WORSE than a liberal.
You guys are no longer making any sense.
We have shown you the STANDARDS of your party.
We have shown you how Saxby violates every one of them.
We have shown you how the GOP leadership squelches reform.
You are boxed in a trap of your own making.
We REAL CONSERVATIVES want you out of this party or to adopt standards - you won’t be able to - that define your behavior.
By tomhere
November 7, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this
PALIN? Show me that she can identify the following nations on the world map: Norway Greece South Korea Tunisia New Zealand Madagascar Guatamala I’ve got $100 says she can’t do it.
By Ga Values
November 7, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this
Jim you need to see a shrink. Yesterday you said we need to re elect Saxby Chambliss(Socialist,Ga) and today you say Ted Stevens(RINO,Al). Let’s see Ted brings home the PORK for his home state while Saxby takes care of his LOBBYIST son Bo & mid west corn farmers. Saxby took over $2,000,000.00 for our vote in the rip off Bailout Wall Street Act, how much did Stevens get? To be kind to Saxby let’s just say he is a disgrace to our Republican Party.
By Reality Check
November 7, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this
Good Morning all;
Maybe I am missing something, but I am reading about the future of the Republican party being somehow tied to Sara Palin, and when I look at the MSNBC, FOX, of CNN all I hear about is how really uninformed this woman is. And the things that are coming out are scary! Not knowing that Africa was a continant and not a country. Not knowing who signed NAFTA. Thinking that North America consisted only of the US and Canada? And the bad part is this is coming from the Republicans!!! Those on the right tried / are trying so hard to ram her down our collective throats, and she appears to be about as sharp as a bowling ball.
By F22 Man
November 7, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this
Iam 54 years old and all I have ever done is build airplanes, it’s hard work but I enjoy it. I am concerned about the possibility of Senator Chambliss being re elected. Obama plans to kill the F22 program & Chambliss will be a dead weight to keep the program. After the this vote every Democrat in Washungton will oppose anything Chambliss wants to do. Chambliss was unable to defend Georgia at the last round of base closings with a Republican President, so how can he help us keep the F22 program?
By One Voice
November 7, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this
Let’s see,
I would LOVE a Palin/Jindal ticket in 2012. That would be an even bigger landslide for Obama. There’s absolutely no precedent in modern politics for a LOSING VP candidate going on to be successful in a presidential run. And now that she’s been exposed as the lightweight she is and even the Republicans have begun to tear her to shreds, I can’t think of a better losing ticket for the Republicans. I loved her pick as VP because I knew it was a train wreck, and her GOP nomination in 2012 would be even better news. Wooten has shown an incredible propensity to be flat wrong with his political choices.
Nobody loves McCain like they did. He sullied his reputation with his dishonorable campaign and will go down in history as the nasty candidate who tried to scare his way into office by smearing the first Black president as a terrorist.
The California voters were wrong on gay marriage and it’s disappointing. Why do conservatives care who marries who? Republicans claim to be about personal freedoms and less restrictive government, but that’s clearly hypocrisy. I don’t care if two guys want to marry each other or two women do. Why should the government dictate that they can’t? Now that’s un-American.
Obama’s election certainly is a green light for a clean energy agenda. What would make any fool think otherwise? It should have been Bush’s agenda for the last 8 years, but then again, he’s a fool.
The country survived Bill Clinton? Are you serious? We had a booming economy and a peaceful world throughout the 90’s. I think you meant to say we barely survived the idiot Bush’s reign and no one with an IQ above 80 could possibly perform more poorly as president. This kind of thinking shows why as the older voters die off and the country becomes less white, the Republican Party will continue to fade into oblivion. You better find a new way or you will end up far more marginalized than you are now.
By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
November 7, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
SAXBY ECONOMICS
DETROIT — The Ford Motor Company, battered by the weak economy and a shift in consumer preferences, said on Friday that its automotive business lost $2.9 billion in the third quarter and announced more cuts to conserve cash, including another 10 percent reduction in salaried payroll costs and lower capital spending.
Go to your Portfolio » Ford said that it burned through $7.7 billion in cash in the third quarter, leaving it with $18.9 billion at the end of September, as vehicle sales in the United States plunged amid historically weak levels of consumer confidence and tight credit markets that have prevented some consumers from obtaining loans.
By F101 Voodoo Man
November 7, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
How about a Jindal-Anybody Else ticket? Actually, Palin has about three years to rehabilitate her unfairly tarnished image and show she’s no idiot. Still, Jindal is an amazing fellow, who should be on top of the ticket.
What’s happening with Obama’s granny? Isn’t there a funeral he needs to go to? Mayby not. I worked for six months in northern California and most of the newspaper obituaries said, “The body will be cremated and there will be no funeral service.” Other parts of the country are not as funeral sensitive as the South.
Speaking of that California reputation, there are a lot of conservatives there.
By F101 Voodoo Man
November 7, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
How about a Jindal-Anybody Else ticket? Actually, Palin has about three years to rehabilitate her unfairly tarnished image and show she’s no idiot. Still, Jindal is an amazing fellow, who should be on top of the ticket.
What’s happening with Obama’s granny? Isn’t there a funeral he needs to go to? Maybe not. I worked for six months in northern California and most of the newspaper obituaries said, “The body will be cremated and there will be no funeral service.” Other parts of the country are not as funeral sensitive as the South.
Speaking of that California reputation, there are a lot of conservatives there.
By CommunistAJC
November 7, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
tomhere, And Barrack Hussein thinks that there are 58 states. That makes me more nervous than Palin not knowing where Tunisia is. By the way, isn’t it funny that no one from the Mccain Camp has come out and publicly said this? We have Obama Hussein on tape. We also know that Biden can’t count. All the Palin bashing shows just how scared you libs are of her. The ball is in the democrats court. If you guys screw it up, and you will big time, then the country will promptly show you the exit. Time to put up or shut up.
One Voice, I highly doubt Jindal/Palin would be a landslide for Obama. Why? Because Mccain never ran a competent campaign. He was too busy playing nice with not going after democrats and Obama. Palin is not scared of them. By the way, we did not have peace throughout Clinton. We were bombed 4 times and we went to war to throw the media off of his sex scandal with a teenager. Keep talking smack my misguided comrade. The next few years are not going to be fun.
By The Campaign to Layoff Wooten
November 7, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
How has the Voting Rights Act eliminated party competition in statewide elections? See this is the reason YOUR party is becoming nothing more than a regional, divisive, out-of-date group. By giving minorities the right to vote without having to pay poll taxes and other means of suppressing their vote, this is bad for the state? Or bad for Republicans? You all have nothing to offer minorities, and the huge latino vote that you all lost this election only reinforces it. The electorate is finally realizing that Republicans seek out the vote of the poor and uneducated masses, so that they can give tax breaks to millionaires. Your philosophy is as old as you are Wooten, you better catch up. The world is changing and if you don’t change with it you’ll be outta here. Just like your party. Those under 40 went to integrated schools and have coexisted in society with other races their entire lives. You partisan code words don’t work anymore. Please ajc, put this tired old man out to pasture.
By Cakey
November 7, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
You and your accolades..It’s 3 days after the election and votes are still being counted; 75.000 voter registration cards found in a trash bin in Southwest Atlanta; absentee ballots are missing and you’re praising Handel? You are just as delusional as the Republicans!!
By Steven Daedalus
November 7, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
If we survived Bill Clinton,what in H—- did we do during the Bush years, sink and endure.
By fedupingwinnett
November 7, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
All you Palin bashers….don’t you find it a bit fishy that the republicans or whoever are making these charges against her are unnamed or anonymous? That fact makes it unbelievable. The stage was set prior to the election that she would be the scapegoat when McCain lost. Enough said.
By One Voice
November 7, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
Dagnard,
Some questions: Aren’t you the one who said last week that McCain would win because he’d take Pennsylvania and who accused me of being in lockstep because I knew what the outcome would be? Wasn’t Pennsylvania called for Obama about 3 seconds after the polls closed? Did Obama not win an electoral landslide? Wouldn’t lockstep be a more accurate description of someone who was repeating false talking points in order to maintain a facade? Do you get tired of making yourself look foolish on here every day when your pompousness is proven wrong so consistently?
By findog
November 7, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this
Jim,
While a Stalinist purge might be fun to watch it is up to Alaska or the Senate to do the right thing for rarely do we find that quality in a professional politician. Republicans are no better or worse than democrats in this area, like Stalin these politicians build cults of personality that blind the local populous to the true evil of corruption.
Handel’s job was made harder by Saxby’s you know who’s voting early and the state house republican’s rethinking the early voting laws because of the perception that democrats were the ones lining up for hours to vote ahead of election day. Your point that she did a good, no great, job while holding off ridiculous requests for change warped by scandalous accusations is what we should hope all government would aspire to is accurate.
The only solution to gerrymandering of reliably safe seats is to create software that will create the districts based on zip codes and water utilities so that they are blindly drawn without political considerations. The operative phrase, “political considerations,” dooms the idea to never, never land.
Just like the religious right claiming they brought Regan to power. Any group that claims to have elected the president is an outright looser for they have forgot the operative phrase of democracy, “We the people…”
Flag on the play. Even Hosea Williams would say of Lester that he did more for the poor and blacks that any other governor. You sir are no better than the Tyron Brooks of the left when you stoop to this level of character assassination referring to Maddox in the same screed as Nixon and slick Willy.
By Tom Becker
November 7, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this
Should public office holders live in the districts they represent? OF course not. And while we’re at it, why not build an ivory tower in dunwoody where they ALL can live. Then let’s build a special amusement park for just office holders. and shopping safaris. dont forget palin-style shopping safaris. Palin deserved it. Most public chicks (nancy pelosi, tipper gore, elizabeth dole) dont.
Coddling public servants is what brought Rome down. (that, and those toga parties).
I’m thinking about Palin at a toga party now. Life could be a dream. Sha na na naaa.
All these new faces in public arenas trump the poster child politician with grey hair and a fat round white face. Newt is unelectable. Round fat faces are out. Newt should market a line of bedpans, you know, the kind he stepped in to force his wife’s signature on that divorce settlement. What a clumsy man. What a clown act. Stay where UR, Newt. I’ve got 45 minutes of material just for you.
Osama. Obama. Nobama. Yesbama. OuiBama. AliBama. Alibaba and the forty thieves.
That’s who Osama Bin Laden is, you know. He’s Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves. That’s what was triggered the comfortable fear in our subconscious and what Bush used to paint the enemy. That cartoon caused the Iraq War.
The consequences of the Iraq War will now rear their ugly heads during Obama’s first year. A shock awaits us. We fought and died to set our worst enemy in power. We lost the Iraq War, but only because Bush is wrong way Harrigan, who scored a touchdown for the opposing team, and lost the game. It’s as if we fought with the Japanese after Pearl Harbor. Seriously. You’ll see them implode in a sectarian free for all.
The Kurds. that’s the wild card. they dont trust. they dont believe a word…. They aren’t about to reliquish control over their gas fields, nor allow any shia/sunni army into their leibensraum (living space). If we deploy anywhere with a smaller force, it should be interjected between Kurdistan and the Sunni/Shia Army. (Is that anything like the Sushi Army?)
SUSHI is an acronym for the SUNNI SHIA ARMY Sushi is best served with Rice.
Now let’s grade Wooten: The last paragraph. Is there anything worse than a someone playing doctor on a TV? Yes, someone playing doctor on a PC. Oh? they’ve identified a “set of mutations” that may have caused the disease 2 progress? Do you realize that you set back bio-physics 300 years with that sentence? Dont go there. Dont even try to report about anything remotely resembing a double helix. Worse, you then conclude with non-sequiturs. You claim that health care is expensive with no supporting data, just folklore. The whole passage is such a mess, that I speet on it!
“Politics has a place, but it’s not our whole life”? That’s what people say when they’re about to disown their behavior. That wasn’t me. I’m a different person. I have a separate life, and I was only acting like I thought I was supposed to act, which was modeled upon a far-right composite of evangelical group think and what Rushannity prompted me to say.
Jim Wooten, You opened this blog a few years ago with this philosophy: “I think that a blog can be used to advance the discussion”. Naturally, you are supposed to “stir the pot” You should present extreme views to elicit the passions that make for entertaining debate. However you forgot one critical thing about this media (blog). It’s uniquely autonomous. The average IQ of commenters is the average IQ, there is no law of personal respect for others. It’s like graffiti writers in restroom stalls who become a devil for other readers who will occasion the comment, easily eclipsing the envelope of propriety, and thrill in the idea that others will be influenced by your own riff (and drawing. and BTW, graffiti picassos: The peeny doesnt have arms and legs or hands and feet.) morons.
Most of your satirical passages are completely lost on 90 percent of your readers. You only succeeded in creating the cyberspace equivalence of mob think, vigilante banter, and thug rule.
By Frost
November 7, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this
How about Palin-Jindal ticket (as in Louisiana Gov. Bobby) in 2012?
you must have missed the talking points on Fixnoise Oreily factor.That Palin woman is poison and as ignorant as my new born baby.She dont know the countries comprising North America,that Africa is a continent not a country,that South Africa is not the same as Africa,does not know the functions of the Deputy President’s office for which she was a candidate.Had u listened to Cam Cameroon’s report on the Oreily factor,you would have been proud and relieved to realize that the american electorate rejected and survived this Ignorant Fraud that those on the left knew all along.It was surprising and refreshing,hearing it from FixNoise.For somebody who took 5 years to get a single degree,we on the left were not surprised tho.She is Miss Air Head! There are better choices and plz dont put Jindal in her company at all.He is way better and deserves better Republican company!
By ron
November 7, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
Good morning,Senator Stevens said he had no idea what was going on and I have a tendency to believe him.I doubt that he ever knew what was going on.
Karen Handel did the job she was hired to do.Let’s leave it at that.
Jeanette Jamison is a Democrat.Apparently there are still some people that won’t compromise their principles to get elected.
Someone has to love John McCain,The Republicans have placed all the blame on his shoulders.They don’t like Palin now either.
I know that Africa is a continent,I just can’t think what I can do with that knowledge.
The left does not have a mandate,they have a simple majority.The minorities that voted for Obama also were the driving force behind the passage of the California bill that limited marriage to one man,one woman.That bill is going to have many problems.For one thing,it fails to deal with the marriages that have already take place.The bill will be a lawyer’s dream.
The unraveling of the disease lukemia is a fascinating subject.A set of mutations are thought to be responsible for the disease’s progression.Now the cause of the mutations is going to have to be pinpointed.Chemically caused?The result,perhaps ,of a cosmic particle hitting something in the body just right?The spontaneous shifting of an individual cell? The answer will be very interesting.
By DirtyDawg
November 7, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
You folks really serious about Sarah Palin? Now that’s funny - or it would be funny if it weren’t so ignorant. Just keep it up and ‘the base’ of the Republican Party will be the only thing left of your ‘permanent majority’. And a Palin-Jindal (or the other way around) ticket? Now that’s really not funny. The first item on their agenda will be a Constitutional Amendment to remove the word ‘evolution’ from dictionaries and the teaching of same from school curricula.
And by the way, the state ‘survived’ Lester Maddox because Lester was a hellovalot better Guv than any of us imagined he would be including increasing spending and focus on the State’s Community Development and Tourism effort - more so than any other Governor before or since.
By Simple Answers
November 7, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
One Voice asks of Ragweed: “Do you get tired of making yourself look foolish on here every day when your pompousness is proven wrong so consistently?”
The answer is “no, never”.
This is the first edition of simple answers to simple questions.
By CommunistAJC
November 7, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
Frost, Who is making these accusations against Palin? That’s right, NO ONE KNOWS! You sit there and claim that she is an idiot yet Biden and Hussein both made more gaffes than anyone else. Hussein said that he’d been to all 58 states and Biden can’t count. Your bias is showing, comrade. I remember how the media said that Reagan was a dumb hick. We all know how that turned out.
Jindal/Palin-2012
By One Voice
November 7, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
CommunistAJC,
You probably didn’t think McCain/Palin would get crushed in a landslide either.
You don’t have to call me comrade. I’m not your comrade and I’m not a communist. I’m a socialist. Big difference.
Bombings by a small group of fanatics is not the same as a war that’s causing the country to go bankrupt. Use your brain.
The next 4 years will be better than the last 8, although it may take another 2 years to begin to recover from the Stooge’s mistakes. You’ll lose about 5-8 more Senate seats in 2010, even though the House balance may stay the same as it is now. Democrats will get a great deal done in the first four years of Obama’s presidency. Then the Republicnas will lose to him again in 2012 because they still won’t have realized that their current positions are losers for the duration. It won’t be until after 2012 when you finally come to your senses and reevaluate your misguided platform. Good luck in 2016!
By J
November 7, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
One Voice, “California voters were wrong on gay marriage”
What happened to majority rules? Maybe you should become dictator so you can decide for all the ignorant masses.
By Aquagirl
November 7, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
Far more important and encouraging is news that for the first time researchers have decoded all the genes of a woman who died of leukemia, identifying a set of mutations that may have caused the disease to progress. Lesson: Politics has its place, but it’s not our whole life.
Oh really, Jim? Those researchers were educated in modern biology, where evolution is a cornerstone concept. If your nutty religious crowd had their way, we’d be trying to cure leukemia with alchemy.
By CommunistAJC
November 7, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
One Voice, Big words little man. Oh, and Obama Hussien didn’t win in a landslide. He won the popular vote by a few million. The last landslide was Reagan. He won every state but two. That, comrade, is a landslide. You’re a socialist? Well, I’d advise you to head back to France will all of your other pu$$y wimps. Again, if your party fails within the first two years then I can guarantee you that they will be thrown out. If Hussein fails to protect the country then he will be shown the door. Good luck Benedict Arnold.
By Harry
November 7, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
Karen Handel illegally purged over 50,000 eligible voters in her partisan attempts to suppress the Democratic vote.
Lines for early voting were 6 hours or more, but she fought every attempt to plan ahead or make a few changes to help the situation.
Her dire warnings of 8 hour waits on Election Day were completely wrong, but it did manage to suppress the vote.
So in typical republican fashion you say:
Heck of job Brownie!
By Tom Becker
November 7, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
Dammit, ron, how dare you say, “Handel did the job she was hired to do, and leave it at that.”
That’s like saying, “Lucifer thought he could win, otherwise, why would he have rebeled. He thought he could win. That indicates something about how powerful we ALL will be in the afterlife. So powerful that we can confront the Creator himself. that explains why we are on earth: as a test of our ability to control our passions and not victimize the arbitrary bodies in our orbit.
Agree?
Handel is a rat. She purposefully shorted the number of voting machines it would take to accomodate the early voting throngs of minorities so that they would really have to be motivated to stay in long, long lines in order to express their civic duty. That’s unforgiveable, man. She is a criminal of the worst sort, and enemy of democracy, and a total evil woman. She will burn in hell forever for her role in this election. the idea that there are still vestiges of the institution of slavery dilluting the compliance with the spirit of our democratic traditions is wrenchingly nauseous. Get rid of Handel fast. Handel: just resign. just go away, you horrid witch.
Ron. read more. try not to believe your own propaganda about what a player UR.
and try the salve.
By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
November 7, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
F22 Man 8:30 AM
As an old grunt I think the F22 program should be cancelled & the money spent where it is need. I agree with you that Saxby will not be able to deliver anything to Georgia but his main concern has always been mid west corn farmers.
Your only hope to save the F22 is probably Jim Marshall from the 8th district who is on the house armed forces committee. He does not get along with Saxby, so I guess if we want to waste billions on the un necesarry f22 you need to be voting for Jim Martin.
By findog
November 7, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
F22 Man @8:30
I remember when Nunn retired and the republicans chased Newt from the capitol. You guys almost bought it then; your argument against Saxby has merit, but Georgian’s are proud mavericks and probably will not heed your warning…
Tom @9:11
Sushi is rice, figuratively and nutritionally
By JohnF
November 7, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
The passage of Proposition 8 only proved that fear mongering is still a viable way to gain votes.
Who voted for prop 8?
Overwhelmingly the white bumpkins from California’s agriculture belt and East Nowhere (ever been to Bakersfield..pretty scary..by the way, if you would like to shoot a young male homosexual in the back of the head, that is the place to do it), along with blacks, and mostly black women..guess they was a-scared that they boy friends be on the DL.
Those that opposed the measure were from the coastal and urban areas..(you know where you actually get the chance to interact with people that are not exactly like you)
The statistics already show those that oppose Prop 8 were mostly college educated people, while those that voted for it only had a High School education..if that.
And the Mormons came up with a clever commercial exploiting all the fears about how them queers were gonna take over the schools and convert their kids into leather wearing fruits or flannel shirt wearing lesbians.
Of course it doesn’t matter that the world actually has models of societies that allow gay marriage. As far as I know heterosexuality is still popular in Canada, Spain, the Netherlands, South Africa, and Massachusetts. But why look at facts when you can use fear?
It’s all BS Wooten..just like your “blog”.
By J
November 7, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Aquagirl, Don’t fall into the trap of painting religion with such a broad brush. Plenty of doctors are religious too.
By Ga Values
November 7, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
F101 Voodoo Man
In early 1969 I traded a case of AK47’s for a joy ride in a F101, Wow. It was 1 of the set up for recon models but it was still geat. I have a 35mm slide in my collection of a 101 at tree top dropping a 500 pounder.
By One Voice
November 7, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
J- You may want to read some Thoreau (and FYI he’s an American author in case you never heard of him and thought he was French).
Commy AJC- Obama won by nearly 8,000,000 votes and doubled McCain’s electoral total. That’s a landslide.
I’ll gladly stay here since my party will have unmitigated power for the next 8 years. And your descriptions don’t really fit for a 225 lb former heavywieght boxer, football player, and MMA fighter. Wrong once again, foolish, spinless man.
By Redneck Convert
November 7, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
Well, I say it’s better to elect a axe murderer to the Senate than a librul Democrat. So Stevens took a few hunderd thousand on the side. Who don’t?
We need Stevens in the Senate to make sure we perteck the public health. He can gang up with other godly Republicans to keep the librul Democrats from passing a tax increase. And if they passed a tax increase we would need about a dozen Roto-Rooter tank trucks and every mop in GA to clean up the mess Raghead would make. People would be able to whiff the smell the minute they crossed into GA.
Have a good day everybody.
By Frost
November 7, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
Frost, Who is making these accusations against Palin? the Republicans in Mccain’s Camp,not liberals! If it were liberals,Fox wld have none of it.Yu get it now Communist
Ignore Palin’s Air headedness at your own party’s peril comrade.
By Frost
November 7, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
what do u all say about Mccain,s drubbing at the polls????
Is Ragnar still around??
By Hugo
November 7, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
A school wants to change its name because it was named after one of the founders of the KKK Nathan Bedford Forrest and you Mr Wooten don’t believe this is important. The Republican Party is not just sinking it has sunk.
By JohnF
November 7, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
J,
If they took a vote in the 1500’s as to whether the world was round or flat and the majority agreed that it was flat (as was the case then)..would that make the world flat?
I imagine a few decades back that a majority of people could have voted to amend their constitution to restrict a minority (blacks) from being able to vote.
Can you describe any other time in this country where a majority of people were able to vote on and decide what a minority of people could or could not do? (i.e., something other than issues related to gay rights)
Can anyone?
By Tom Becker
November 7, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
Ga Values, yeah, I bought the same wallet with the same picture of the tree-top bombing from the F101. If you are not for real, sir……
I am the Airforce. I was born in a Jug, man. I was weaned on the teet of a Goony Bird. When I first saw the F-100, I thought we should have invaded Russia. I was four.
I never was more than five hundred feet feet from a runway until I was in my teens, man.
SO dont got there. Just dont. I can smell a troll a mile away. I used to watch takeoffs and landings all day long. I’d just stare. I absorbed flight.
In Nam, my dad said that he never ever landed his C-47 without flying through flack. Ever. the cong were bad shots, man. They couldn’t hit the broad side of a…..UGH! (camera to me being hit by a piece of shrapnel that somehow floated around in the atmosphere for forty years and suddenly fell through my roof.)….they got me….tell my mom I always liked her apple pie….it’s getting dark….I smell bread cooking….oh auntie Em……(the ajc regrets the loss of it’s most entertaining blogger and who is solely responsible for the increase in the number of total jackwipes who infest this blog. we now return control of this site to you…blog on).
this is a sad day.
By Steven Daedalus
November 7, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
I’m glad the Republican Party’s hopes are tied to Sarah Palin, maybe they will all move to Alaska, by the way, the most Socialistic state in the Union, with all their subsidies, and they eventually cross the Bering Strait and live happily everafter with all the Stalinists in Siberia. It seems like a perfect fit, and the rest of us will be spared their whining.
By Aquagirl
November 7, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
J @ 9:38, please understand I said the “nutty” religious crowd, who so champion the G.W. Bushes and Sarah Palins of the world. There are plenty of decent, sane people who consider themselves religious. Unfortunately, they seem willing to let the nutty folk represent them in the Republican party. Moderate Muslims have a responsibility to stand up to extreme radicals. So do Christians. As long as Jim is considered “Right,” I rest my case.
By Tomhere
November 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
Technically there are 58 “states”, because the “territories” are referred to as “states”. So, Hussein Osama Obama YoMama was correct. How about this: Let’s just do away with Alaska. All you Palin geeks move up there, renounce your citizenship in the Obamanation, and you can HAVE ALASKA. You can have the oil, the timber, the mineral, kill all the Salmon AND the Polar Bears, DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. You will have to apply for a visa to come visit here, you will have no border with the “Lower 48”. You will have your OWN SOVEREIGN NATION. You can screw it up anyway you want. How clearly I remember what you told ME when I protested the Viet Nam War: AMERICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT. SO… BACK ATCHA MAMMYJAMMER……..
By findog
November 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
One @9:26
In 2010 the efforts will be on state legislative races. That is because those bodies will take the census data and draw the districts for the 2012 House that will last ten years. Remember the Hammer’s project to flip five house seats in Texas?
The question then is will the democrats deliver sensible solutions that can be of significant consequence to persuade voters to turn their state houses blue?
AS FOR RAGNAR He certainly does not need, nor probably want, my moderate support but if half the liberal or progressive positions here were as well informed as his [though some times I feel they are misguided] then this blog would be worthy of the first amendment right we as a people share like no other group governed by a central government.
By Dusty
November 7, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Well, Jim Wooten, the beat goes on and the libs are still beating it out. (That sounds like PoFo who is Tom Becker today for those of you new to this blog). I do believe Libs have a list made out.
Last week it was McCain Palin. This week it is Chambliss, Palin and Handel. I’ll be glad when those Demo Election funds run out. Well, maybe they have.
Chad Harris isn’t here yet. Mostly just “hanger-ons” today.
But let’s see. Stevens, old time politician, thinks he deserves “favors”. Found out differently. Handel preserves election laws. Gets the “black spot” from Dems. Palin is sharp as a tack and good politician, just needing a bit more battle experience. McCain will always be a hero no matter how hard Dems tried to convince us otherwise. Chambliss is a good ol’ boy who better watch his back with all the daggers being thrown.
Obama should hurry up and make one of those pretty speeches. People are going to forget why they elected him, ‘specially when he is filling up the place with Clinton retreads. (Isn’t it interesting how some libs still try to put a halo on Bill Clinton? Fantasia in action!)
George W. Bush and the first lady are showing the fine character they posess. Giving a warm welcome to future inhabitants of the White House is not routine. But they are bringing in Obama and Michelle with grace and charm. Now that is the way to do it.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
November 7, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
People opposed to gay marriage can pass all the propositions they want but the courts will knock them down. And they should! If men want to marry other men and women want to marry women let ‘em. I don’t care! Homosexual marriage has no effect upon me or my family. Live and let live. Same sex marriage will be good for sellers of wedding attire, cake makers, photographers and divorce attorneys. These unions pose no threat to me and they don’t to anyone else either. Let people be whomever they want to be. If they aren’t posing a threat to public welfare then leave them alone!
By Andrew
November 7, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
Jim likes to suggest that lying about a sex act almost destroyed this country. Bush’s disregard for the Constitution has done far more, I would say.
By Tom Becker
November 7, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Tomhere: unreadable. I have no idea what you wrote. none. and I read you 3 times.
Findog; Ditto, man. WTF? shrooms this early? YOu made no sense. Sorry. truly sorry.
John F: EXCELLENT!! I’m not worthy. But I love the prompt. Just what criteria did Europe use to decide whether the earth was flat or round? I love it!
Great material. I will spend today coming up with a top ten list of criteria points that medieval europe used to determine the ground upon which they walked.
great stuff, sir!
and thanx for being normal.
By findog
November 7, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Hugo @9:52
Gump’s namesake was the first leader of the KKK, who later disbanded the organization.
The point that you blindly missed is that the school is failing to provide a quality education to the children and that changing the name, and probably a subsequent PC renaming of the “Rebel” mascot, is much less important than its primary mission but a classic misdirection by clueless rubes [like you].
Tom @10:06 Pants on fire
By Reality Check
November 7, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
Dusty @ 10:17
Palin is sharp as a tack????? Are you kidding me? Now I read this blog daily, and I understand that you are hard right ( almost to the point and blindness), but to continue to pine for this woman is CRAZY! The daggers being thrown at Palin are not coming from the left, They are beong put out there by The Mccain folks who were given the impossible task of trying to make her seem worthy of being on a field that large. I like to compare her to being 5 feet tall at a midget convention… You are the tallest person in the room, but in the big picture, you ( SHE) is still short…..
By One Voice
November 7, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
findog,
Dagnard certainly has the right to be wrong and misguided. Our disagreement is on the substance of his views. You too may want to note the trends of the beliefs of the American people, particularly the Hispanics, whose population is growing rapidly, and young Americans, who will be voting for 50 more years. White Americans will probably comprise less than 50% of the country by 2020 and fewer of them will hold conservatives ideals.
By Dusty
November 7, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Aquagirl,
I do believe that you have decided that every religious persion is a snake handling, “speaking in tongues” indiviual who studies science on a ouiji board. You call them conservative Republicans.
Fortunately, you are wrong. Most of the major denomination in Christianity believe in the simple yet saving Christ, one main element being “love for humanity”. They also follow the laws of the USA and do not interfere with the beliefs of others unless it breaks the law.
Science is taught on the basis of facts and not religion. The scientists who found the genetic mutations in the leukemia case may or may not be Christian or MUulim or whatever. They are scientists, not philosophers. Their scientific work will be done in research not religion.
Laws may change but true science will not. I hope you in the legal field will never try to change that premise to combine it with religion. If you do, it will no longer be considered “science”.
By AmVet
November 7, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Andrew,
William Jefferson Clinton betrayed his wife.
George Walker Bush betrayed the nation.
By findog
November 7, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
TB @10:27
I would attempt to explain, but you gave no reference to where you were left clueless, though that idea may be redundant. Local cow patty fungal growths can open a willing mind; I guess you just wouldn’t understand let alone qualify. Wish I could stay and play but I have to go make sure water will run down hill…
By The Snark
November 7, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
If Katherine Harris — ooops, I meant to say Karen Handel — did such a great job, why are we sitting here on Friday still waiting on the final ballot count to see if there will be a run-off for Senator?
By Steve
November 7, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
“partisans were gunning for something that would gin up Democratic turnout.”
Why is it that “thinking right” means being against having more people vote? Republicans are free to “gin up” their vote as well.
The reason people are mad at Handel has to do with waiting in line for hours and that she did nothing to try to alliviate that, which of course smelled of a partisian attempt to suppress the vote.
As far as Obama’s agenda, during the election, he was very clear about what he planned to do. Post-election attempts by the right to spin it differently are just wishful thinking on their part.
By Peter
November 7, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
Jim will NEVER talk about the REAL Issues facing America, and he will NEVER talk about Solutions……
This is the real REPUBLICAN Mind set..the Mind set that got Hammered in the last election…… The Blame game, and the Attacks are what the REPUBLICAN’S are all about.
Today we still have Bush Raping the Ecology of America and Polluting as mush as they can…….. the Unemployment is through the roof…………..the Spending is so far out of control, that to call themselves even close to “Conservative” is a TOTAL JOKE !
There are ZERO ANSWERS that come from the RIGHT…….. Just what can be done for ME, ME, ME, ME, Big Business a few Rich folks and Screw America in General.
Someday Jim and the rest of the Republican’s WILL wake up……… and to actually be a PART of the Solution, and NOT the PROBLEM……..to do this they will have to have Idea’s that are GOOD for America, and not for just a few !
By Curious Observer
November 7, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
Post-election observation: Same old junk. A presidential candidate knows he’s losing big-time. But will he acknowledge it? Not at all. He puts out word that the gap is “closing.” Sometimes I think a political candidate would rather acknowledge the practice of bestiality than acknowledge a looming electoral disaster. Everybody’s got to be optimistic, regardless of reality.
And why is anyone surprised that Fulton County still does not have final election results? Fulton County—worst administrative processes in the nation. I was reminded of that when I went to the North Fulton Courthouse Annex to vote early. A long line snaked through various hallways. When I finally got to the check-in room, I discovered the reason. A single worker—one—was doing all the computer checks. In about ten minutes, a second worker strolled in, talked and laughed with the first worker for a few minutes, and then sat down to a terminal. Meanwhile, hundreds of would-be voters waited.
Why must Fulton County residents be saddled with such incompetence? It isn’t confined to voting. The staff I encounter when I go to renew my vehicle registration treat taxpayers as though they were cattle. And I dare you to just try to get in touch with any courthouse worker by telephone. You will be long dead before anybody answers.
I never thought I would have any sympathy at all for Karen Handel. But in the case of Fulton County, I do. No other county in the United States would deliberately violate state law and allow vote-counters to go home before absentee and provisional ballots were counted.
By Tom Becker
November 7, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
Should public office holders live in the districts they represent? OF course not. And while we’re at it, why not build an ivory tower in dunwoody where they ALL can live. Then let’s build a special amusement park for just office holders. and shopping safaris. dont forget palin-style shopping safaris. Palin deserved it. Most public chicks (nancy pelosi, tipper gore, elizabeth dole) dont.
Coddling public servants is what brought Rome down. (that, and those toga parties).
I’m thinking about Palin at a toga party now. Life could be a dream. Sha na na naaa.
All these new faces in public arenas trump the poster child politician with grey hair and a fat round white face. Newt is unelectable. Round fat faces are out. Newt should market a line of bedpans, you know, the kind he stepped in to force his wife’s signature on that divorce settlement. What a clumsy man. What a clown act. Stay where UR, Newt. I’ve got 45 minutes of material just for you.
Osama. Obama. Nobama. Yesbama. OuiBama. AliBama. Alibaba and the forty thieves.
That’s who Osama Bin Laden is, you know. He’s Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves. That’s what was triggered the comfortable fear in our subconscious and what Bush used to paint the enemy. That cartoon caused the Iraq War.
The consequences of the Iraq War will now rear their ugly heads during Obama’s first year. A shock awaits us. We fought and died to set our worst enemy in power. We lost the Iraq War, but only because Bush is wrong way Harrigan, who scored a touchdown for the opposing team, and lost the game. It’s as if we fought with the Japanese after Pearl Harbor. Seriously. You’ll see them implode in a sectarian free for all.
The Kurds. that’s the wild card. they dont trust. they dont believe a word…. They aren’t about to reliquish control over their gas fields, nor allow any shia/sunni army into their leibensraum (living space). If we deploy anywhere with a smaller force, it should be interjected between Kurdistan and the Sunni/Shia Army. (Is that anything like the Sushi Army?)
SUSHI is an acronym for the SUNNI SHIA ARMY Sushi is best served with Rice.
Now let’s grade Wooten: The last paragraph. Is there anything worse than a someone playing doctor on a TV? Yes, someone playing doctor on a PC. Oh? they’ve identified a “set of mutations” that may have caused the disease 2 progress? Do you realize that you set back bio-physics 300 years with that sentence? Dont go there. Dont even try to report about anything remotely resembing a double helix. Worse, you then conclude with non-sequiturs. You claim that health care is expensive with no supporting data, just folklore. The whole passage is such a mess, that I speet on it!
Politics has a place, but it’s not our whole life? That’s what people say when they’re about to disown their behavior. That wasn’t me. I’m a different person. I have a separate life, and I was only acting like I thought I was supposed to act, which was modeled upon a far-right composite of evangelical group think and what Rushannity prompted me to say.
Jim Wooten, you are going to have to ban me from your blog in order to repair your credibility. You cant spill poison for two years and then say, “Oh well, what’ll they think of next, ahule”.
I wont let you. You’re bigger and better than that. You opened this blog a few years ago with this philosophy: “I think that a blog can be used to advance the discussion”. Naturally, you are supposed to “stir the pot” You should present extreme views to elicit the passions that make for entertaining debate. However you forgot one critical thing about this media (blog). It’s uniquely autonomous. The average IQ of commenters is the average IQ. there is no law of personal respect for others. It’s like graffiti writers in restroom stalls who become a devil for other readers who will occasion the comment. (and drawing. and BTW, graffiti picassos: The peeny doesnt have arms and legs or hands and feet.) morons.
Most of your satirical passages are completely lost on 90 percent of your readers. You only succeeded in creating the cyberspace equivalence of mob think, vigilante banter, and thug rule. I have ten years of blogging experience as a troll assassin. I am John Wilkes Bluetooth, (have mouse, will click). my motto is “Sic Semper Trollanus”.
but you knew all that.
By J
November 7, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
John F, “Can you describe any other time in this country where a majority of people were able to vote on and decide what a minority of people could or could not do? (i.e., something other than issues related to gay rights)”
Umm, let’s see. How about at any time since the country was founded. They are called laws. I’m sure there’s a minority that wouldn’t think it inappropriate for an adult male to date your 13 year old daughter. The majority says un-uh. Or a minority that wouldn’t think twice about shooting you in the back of the head. Again, the majority says no. Yes, they’re called laws, my friend.
By Jeff Sanders
November 7, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
Here is why I see a problem with anti-gay marriage amendments and the “will of the people”. For some reason, Wooten never goes into this kind of detail:
You say: Marriage is between a man and a woman.
I say: Why?
You say: Because it always has been and it’s worked so why change it?
I say: Well it seems to only work for half that enter into it. And if it benefits some people without hurting others, then why not include same-sex marriage.
You say: It will hurt other people. It will destroy the sanctity of heterosexual marriage and soon no one will see any value in getting married, and our kids will be in an unstable home and society will go to hell. Marriage has to be protected. These amendments are pro-marriage for one man and one woman.
I say: What evidence do you have for that? Has this happened in places that have same-sex marriage? And what is marriage being protected from? If same sex marriage is allowed will marriage license fees go up. Will it be harder for opposite sex folks to marry? And how is it pro-marriage? Do the federal tax benefits for married couples change? Do these amendments provide additional benefits for opposite sex marriage?
You say: ????!!!
Then you say: Same-sex marriage goes against my religious beliefs.
I say: Then don’t have one. But that isn’t my belief so why can’t I have a same-sex wedding?
You say: Well..why can’t you just go out and murder someone?
I say: You think same sex marriage is equivalent to murder?
Then you say: Well if we allow same-sex marriage then we’ll have to let humans marry their pets.
I say: Are you saying that the relationship of two committed people of the same-sex is no more legitimate than some guys that has fallen in love with his dog? My dog doesn’t go with me to the hospital, doesn’t buy presents for my neice and nephew, and can’t pick up a few chicken wings for me on the way home from work. And can a dog stand up in from of the justice of the peace and say the words “I do”?
You finally say: it doesn’t matter…the will of the people has spoken..we just don’t like it and there are enough people to prevent you from having a same sex wedding..so just live with it.
So…if someone can supply a real, earnest reason how opposite sex marriage is injured by the inclusion of same sex marriage..with real evidence, not slippery slopes..I would love to hear it.
Feel free to flame but I took the time to offer a thought-out post..those that disagree with me should also.
By Steve
November 7, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
“partisans were gunning for something that would gin up Democratic turnout.”
Why is it that “thinking right” means being against having more people vote? Republicans are free to “gin up” their vote as well.
The reason people are mad at Handel has to do with waiting in line for hours and that she did nothing to try to alliviate that, which of course smelled of a partisian attempt to suppress the vote.
As far as Obama’s agenda, during the election, he was very clear about what he planned to do. Post-election attempts by the right to spin it differently are just wishful thinking on their part.
By getalife
November 7, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
We survived the worst President ever Jim.
The end of the w disaster is over and the gop will be in the minority for a very long time.
By Dusty
November 7, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Reality Check,10:35
Sooooo…nobody but McCain’s “folks” are running down Sarah Palin. Now that’s a good story if you care to stick with it. If there are a few poor (R)losers out there, I hope you also observed the crowing crew of Dems who hadn’t won anything in so long they did not know how to behave. (It must be hard to be “nice” after acting “ugly” so long.)
But, on another subject, let me suggest something you did not mention…..a new name for the Nathan Bedford Forrest School in distress over their title. How about WILLIAM TECUMSEH SHERMAN SCHOOL OF PYROTECNICS? That has a WARM ring to it. Then they could get back to that bothersome trifle called STUDIES.
By Tom Becker
November 7, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
D’oh! I hate Word.
By ron
November 7, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
Am Vet—- Hillary got over it.
By Steven Daedalus
November 7, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
The Democrats probably will screw up, but in no way, in any amount time, on any planet, in any galaxy, in any sort of existence, can they screw it up worse than the Republicans under George W Bush. There are absolutes in the Universe and this one of them.
By F101 Voodoo Man
November 7, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
Ga. Values, every ride in a Voodoo is a joy.
By JohnF
November 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
Sorry J,
That example, aside from being spurious, is a false analogy. Those laws apply to everyone equally. The fact that a minority might want to break them doesn’t mean anything.
Proposition 8 injures a minority explicitly…it had no real effect on the majority that voted for it, only an imagined one.
And most “laws” are created by a legislative body, not popular vote. The CA legislature had actually passed a law allowing gay marriage but the Terminator vetoed it.
Again, the question still stands: When has there been a popular vote that restricted something only in a certain group of people.
And I’m not your friend.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
November 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
the reason people are mad at Handel has to do with waiting in line for hours and that she did nothing to try to alliviate that, which of course smelled of a partisian attempt to suppress the vote.
EXACTLY! I voted the Friday before the general election was held. The line took about four hours to get through. Once inside the voting room, it was easily seen why it took so long. Only a few voting machines were there. It was the equivalent of the old poll tax. You had to give up something substantial, several hours of your life, to exercise your right to vote. It shouldn’t have been that way! I don’t toast Handel. I hope she’ll soon be toast!
By Dusty
November 7, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
AmVet 10:42
GEORGE W. BUSH HAS NEVER BETRAYED THIS NATION.
You do not have to like our President but making those kinds of scurrilous insults makes you ONE BIG TIRESOME LIAR. Try to get over your sick state of mind.
By Aquagirl
November 7, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
Dusty @ 10:39, your post has your usual lack of clarity; I will interpret it as being opposed to teaching creationism as science.
If you want those involved with the law to knock it off, I suggest you speak with your BFF Bush. His belief there is a scientific debate marks him as both lacking in intelligence, and a theocrat. He was re-elected by skillful manipulation ans support of those who share his views. Nothing good can come from such a government, as history now shows.
By Tom Becker
November 7, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
I’m watching “the view”. They are debating the gay marriage legislation in california. They are arguing, debating, and criticizing each other without ever once using the word, “moron”.
What wrong with that picture?
Obama 08: It’s a new era. No morons. No nitwits. No nothing, but people talkin’ bout stuff.
By Do the Match
November 7, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
I seriously doubt Palin has a shot in 2012.
Bush’s/McCain’s/Palin’s devisive, synical and war mongering rhetoric lost in ‘08, excluding Georgia of course.
Young voters went for Obama’s positive message 69% to McCain/Palin’s synical message 30%. This is a growing trend while the republican base is aging and shrinking.
Jindal/Romney would be a smarter choice.
By ron
November 7, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
Dear Tom Becker,——So you went on to describe what Karen Handel was hired to do.Not many people will figure it out.
I have been told before that sarcasm is hard to project across a computer screen.Now with this in mind go back and rethink everything.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
November 7, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
GEORGE W. BUSH HAS NEVER BETRAYED THIS NATION.
Krusty, he’s betrayed this nation completely! He manufactured evidence to justify a brutal attack upon, and occupation of, Iraq. He sacrificed thousands of American lives to gain control of the oil Iraq holds. In the process, he’s overseen the murder of hundreds of thousands of iraqis. He’s sanctioned war crimes and torture. He’s desecrated the constitution of the United States by spying on Americans in America. He’s usurped powers not given to him by the constitution and he’s bankrupted the nation by allowing thieves to loot our treasure with impunity. He’s even gone so far as to pardon himself and all those in his thug administration. He’s a criminal and he’s going to be brought to justice!
By Tom Becker
November 7, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
I dont know how many plastic models of the Voodoo I built. I loved the Voodoo’s shape. It was unique. that high tail, those weird short wings. That plane goes WAY back.
However, I have none of the F101 models I built left. I stuffed cherry bombs in all of them and blew them to smithereens.
Just a point of order.
By The Snark
November 7, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
Curious Observer:
I agree with your comments about Fulton County government, but don’t forget that Karen Handel’s last job before becoming Secretary of State was …
drumroll please …
Chair of the Fulton County Commission!
By Sandie Pine
November 7, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
Dusty,
You need to look in the mirror and accept the fact that you are one of the reasons that the republicans fared so bad this year.
You are a constant apologist for George Bush even when it is glaringly obvious the he made major mistakes over the 8 years he was president.
He did deceive the nation getting us into the Iraq War. People have left his administration like rats from a sinking ship and all of them have negative things to say about his administration.
People like you should have been holding his feet to the fire, but you just continue to defend him like he’s your favorite uncle (is he?).
I voted for him once…but I at least had the presence of mind to really look at his first four years and know his second term would be a disaster…did you?
George Bush has been a bad president, that is a fact..only a quarter of the US population thinks otherwise. Why do you continue to defend his administration?
I know why? It’s not that you love George Bush..you just hate liberals..(or what you think a liberal is).
You’ve gone down with the ship honey..
And what happened to Dick Cheney?
By Dusty
November 7, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
AquaGirl@11:11
You show your usual disrespect for the law and George W. Bush. George W. Bush presented his religious view of what HE thought was right. I know of nothing illegal that he did nor do I know of any LAWS that change science.
I am sure you will mention stem cell research. It has not stopped. Any kind of stem cell research can be done by private enterprize, including embryonic. But governemtn FUNDS only stem cell research without involvement with embryos. That stops only the taxpayers’ money going to something that is argumentative. It did not stop research of any kind.
Schiavo? I believe the president felt the parents had more authority in that case but it was decided by LAW. Perhaps you should see about law enforcement and whether you want justice in the form of those who administer it to decide big issues.
Do you find it difficult to keep an open mind when you are a liberal? I think you do.
By Tom Becker
November 7, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
Should public office holders live in the districts they represent? OF course not. And while we’re at it, why not build an ivory tower in dunwoody where they ALL can live. Then let’s build a special amusement park for just office holders. and shopping safaris. dont forget palin-style shopping safaris. Palin deserved it. Most public chicks (nancy pelosi, tipper gore, elizabeth dole) dont.
Coddling public servants is what brought Rome down. (that, and those toga parties).
I’m thinking about Palin at a toga party now. Life could be a dream. Sha na na naaa.
By Dusty
November 7, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
A.J. Calhoun,11:25
Don’t you think that Dems have already serached for something illegal that George W. Bush did and THEY CAN’T FIND A THING? there is nothing illegal there.
Give up your Bush hate. It is fast going out of style.
Sandie Pine @11:32
Same for you. Bush was elected by the American people twice. And IT WAS ALL LEGAL. You simply cannot accept the truth. If you don’t like the President’s actions, give legal reasons, not your imagination or party tripe.
My ship has not gone down. Another political party came into power but we BETTER have two parties working in the USA or we will be a sinking ship known as dictatorship. I am hopeful Obama wiil be all the things you think he is. We will see.
As to Dick Cheney, I imagine he is sitting in his office doinig his job as usual. Where did you expect him to be?
Where is Hillary? Bill Clinton? Al Gore?? Silly questions!
By Chad Harris
November 7, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
Moron Palin will resign and have her Lt. Gov appoint her Senator where she will proove herself such a big moron that the Rethugs will never run her if Begich loses an Alaska vote full of fraud which had poor turnout or stolen votes by the Rethugs.
Handel lost the 3 judge panel order and case where she attempted to steal 50,000 votes and that’s why there is a runoff which Martin will win. She is just as dumb as Palin. They are both pure bread morons and this will be emphasized when she tries to be governor of Georgia. You betcha**
By JLK
November 7, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
Actually, Dusty, Scooter Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice, perjury, and making false statements to federal investigators. These are not the crimes that were being investigated in the administration to which he was loyal, but crimes of obstructing that investigation. I have to wonder, WHY DIDN’T MR. LIBBY JUST TELL THE TRUTH? Was it because Bush and/or Cheney might have been indicted for crimes if he had? Seems silly to go to prison to for lying to investigators if you aren’t hiding anything. Oh wait, he didn’t go to prison for his convictions, did he? Bush stepped in and commuted his sentence. I wonder why he did THAT? I mean, why would you forgive someone of a serious crime like that? Hmmmm…..
By professional skeptic
November 7, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
I’m glad the cops didn’t arrest you for casting multiple votes, Redneck!
By cdm
November 7, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Jim I went on the site that you subscribe to “The American Thinker” and I was not surprised that your favorites were racist. I tried reading but got too turned off.
By Chad Harris
November 7, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
Handel and Palin are both pure bred morons. She is no political threat to us because enough of us know she’s incompetent and tried to supress the vote and was defeated and we will defeat you again and again until you realize why you’re losing. Wingnutia like Wooten clings to its bigoted lying ways and we aren’t having any more. That’s why Obama won by over when all states are in 100 electoral votes and won most of the states Bush won. We are gearing up to crush Saxbutt. Why can’t wooten get off his Butt and move Bush out early? Save the country some lives and treasure.
Jindal is a Right Wingnut so bring him on. Obama will crush him. I wish Wooten were running RNC. It works great for us because it’s Obama 8 years and we will continue to dominate the House and the Senate and White House for more years than Wooten is alive.
Eric Johnson will never abolish early voting in Georgia. He’ll be ridden out on a rail and tarred and feathered. And a competent Secretary of State would have had many more voting machines and many more poll workers in counties like the Metro Atlanta counties. She supressed the vote on election day because people stayed away turned off by the 4-8 hour lines caused by the stupidity of having half the voting machines needed. The right wing white bigots like Wooten sent twice as many voting machines to affluent white districts as they did to predominantly middle income black districts and poorer black districts.
Handel cost millions in litigation that she lost along with her lawyers the Georgia AG 3.
Wooten didn’t do a scintilla of reporting on the 3 Judge Panel result although he reported on the preliminary ruling that Jack Camp was forced to reverse by Birch and Duffy. Wooten does not report on outcomes that defeat him. 50,000 voters were restored to the rolls and they voted for Obama and Martin and will again.
I bet you don’t see Handel trying to screw with the matching lists in the runoff Wooten. Want to make a wager???
The Georgia House didn’t change much because the majority of Georgians are poorly educated hillbillies like Palin.
Additionally many did not vote because of the long lines during early voting. Handel’s incompetence scared them away. That will change only when there is a Democratic SOS in Georgia.
Good ridance to Jeannette.
The left and progressives and middle of the road rejected McCain because he doesn’t hold a candle to Obama and for 26 years he voted with your wingnuts. You can keep deluding yourself but nurloleptic medication would help erase the delusions Wooten.
Legally speaking which Wooten doesn’t know how to do, the California prop 8 will be overturned in the Courts. If you want to make that kind of law, it has to be done in the California legislature.
And since the case law is that the law cannot be retroactive there are thousands of people who married in California who remain married with all legal rights thereto. The main areas are wills and child custody that are differentiated from civil unions. It will waste a lot of money on litigation until the law is clarified. Wooten doesn’t understand this because his mind cannot encompass legal nuances.
Wooten can spend his days predicting what Obama will do or not do and where he will succeed or not succeed. The fact is he will have a superlative staff, and the proof will be in the pudding as Obama faces unprecedented f*ckups created by the Bush administration.
This state still has Lester Maddox. His names are Jim Wooten, Karen Handel, and Sonny Purdeue. Lester Madux lives on in them.
By Tom Becker
November 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
I just realized that Sara Silverman stole her entire act from the clown nosed femme-pratfall on Big Comfy Couch on PBS.
Shame.
By Chad Harris
November 7, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
Moron Palin will resign and have her Lt. Gov appoint her Senator where she will proove herself such a big moron that the Rethugs will never run her if Begich loses an Alaska vote full of fraud which had poor turnout or stolen votes by the Rethugs.
Handel lost the 3 judge panel order and case where she attempted to steal 50,000 votes and that’s why there is a runoff which Martin will win. She is just as dumb as Palin. They are both pure bread morons and this will be emphasized when she tries to be governor of Georgia.**
You betcha Barny’s gone rogue. Who could blame him being shipped back to Hicksville Crawford Texas—it’s like South Georgia or Mayretta Big Chicke country where the bozo hillbillies wanted to execute physicians for performing legal abortions.
Dumb baby dumb!!! You betcha. So naming a woman no matter how dumb she was with her phony snowbilly populist schtick—how’d that work Wooten?
It sure peeled those discontented Hillary backers off to McPalin didn’t it?
Can Wooten use his power and influence to move Bush the hell out of the White House and the moron Cheney now so we can begin the cleanup and reconstruction?
13 Suitcases to carry around Moronbilly’s clothes.
Idea for a quiz show—Index cards put to Moron Snowbilly on basics civics and foreign affairs facts that would run as a weekly quiz marathon. Guests such as Jim Wooten could make it a real battle. Is Africa a country or a continent? How many cert. votes to get to the S. Ct. or are they mints?
There could be tantrums before and after the commercials.
Moronbilly still has Secret Service protection—why is a great frigging uestion. McPalin is driving himself around now.
Palin can’t name US, Mexico, Canada the members of NAFTA.
“that I perhaps didn’t know an answer to a question” Perhaps she can’t even dress herself.
Populist minstrel Snowbilly moron being trashed by the Rethuglicans.
Rethugs trying to take down Jim Wooten’s soulmate, Moron Palin.
Rethugs sending lawyers North to Snowbillyville to recover First Dude’s 40 grand worth of clothes and little Hillbilly’s 20 grand and Moron’s actual 200 grand.
Resignation with many to follow: Moron Julie Myers who was given the job with no experience running ICE Little Ms. Nepotism, Julie Miers is history, who awarded a costume for a racially derisive costume.
Last Halloween, at a fundraising event for charitable organizations held at the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Headquarters Building, they held a costume contest. And the winner was a white lawyer dressed in dreadlocks and prison stripes.
When it came time to present himself to the judges, among them Julie Myers, the chief of ICE, he said “I’m a Jamaican detainee from Krome — obviously, I’ve escaped.” Krome is an ICE Detention facility in Miami that is mostly filled with Jamaican, Haitian and Latin American detainees. The judges, Myers among them, laughed, according to a report (pdf) issued yesterday by the House Committee on Homeland Security.
As if we wouldn’t have fired Julie Myers in the coming weeks.
Then last week, on the eve of the election, law enforcement sources leaked to the Associated Press the news that Barack Obama’s aunt, Zeituni Onyango, had been denied a request for asylum four years ago. The leak, which is being looked into by internal investigators at ICE, appears to have violated government regulations, and, as TPMmuckraker reported Monday, may increase the chances that Onyango could be persecuted if she’s deported.
Somehow, I doubt Barack’s aunt will be deported unless Wooten has more clout with the new adminstration than already known.
By Chad Harris
November 7, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
Republican National Committee lawyers were likely to go to Alaska to conduct an inventory and try to account for all that was spent.
Remember, there were allegations that some of Sarah’s $150,000 wardrobe was “lost.” If they’re planning on flying to Alaska to “account for all that was spent,” it suggests, first of all, that the loot is in Alaska, not in an upscale thrift store in, say, Phoenix (where the number of people who wear that kind of clothes is higher than it is in Alaska). It suggests that Palin still has it.
And it suggests that the RNC is skeptical they’re going to be able to find all of Palin’s new clothes.
By Dusty
November 7, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
JLK@11:54
Libby’s trial was such a farce that it was almost comical. Dems were trying to pin something on Bush about accusations that had already been cleared up. Yep, the trial was about a “crime” that had already been solved. So they got Libby on making a false statement. It took two years to decide that a guy who said he forgot… to make it into a false statement.
Of course Bush commuted this breach of justice. Everybody knew it and laughed about it. Justice is one thing. Democratic amusement is another.
Chad Harris…oooo
Would somebody please cut OFF his propaganda trash line so he can think for himself? He’s in such a rush he cannot even spell Maddox or Perdue.
Relax, Chad, RELAX!!!
By Chad Harris
November 7, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this
Spelling Maddox or Perdue is least of my priorities Dustie. It doesn’t cost me a cent of income. I’ll put my command of spelling and current events and writing skills and education against you any day of the week and twice on Sundays. It would not be pretty for you.
Libby is one of the reasons you lost.
And the article saying McCain and Palin will be campaigning for the draft dodger and chronic liar Chambliss is great news.
Look what Palin did for McCain and McCain did for McCain. It will bring out all the people that Handel supressed with lack of voting machines and poll workers in the large Metro counties. I got a kick out of the if Palin’s schedule permits phrase. What the hell has she got to do? She’s going to resign as Governor and get her Lt. Gov. to appoint her to the Senate as soon as Stevens is quickly expelled by a unanimous vote of teh Senate including your right Wingnut Senators and the soon to be fired Chambliss. McConnell has already said he’ll go for a unanimous vote to expell Stevens and that clars the way for Palin to get appointed to the Senate unless there is an honest count in Alaska and Begich wins.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 7, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
Dear eine Stimme @ 9:09, anyone who affirms that McCain “sullied his reputation with his dishonorable campaign and will go down in history as the nasty candidate who tried to scare his way into office by smearing the first Black president as a terrorist” fits the definition of incompetent. I did affirm that the winner of Pennsylvania would win the election. “Wouldn’t lockstep be a more accurate description of someone who was repeating false talking points in order to maintain a facade?” I agree. Do you affirm that Obama will be president of all, or will he be a leftist partisan?
Dear Ron @ 9:19, best line of the day: “I know that Africa is a continent, I just can’t think what I can do with that knowledge.”
Dear Aquagirl @ 9:28, why bother with “evolution” at the 9th grade level if no more than 1/10,000 people will ever have even the most remote theoretical use for it? Useless knowledge, sorta like reading the Miller’s Tale. I think ron makes a better argument for teaching Alpha radiation in school. I just don’t understand why you evolutionists magnify the importance of something so trivial.
Dear Frost @ 9:50, surely you read my gracious statement Wednesday morning? Far more gracious, and analytical, than the statements of most of the opposition, dontcha know. Re Captain Queeg’s “drubbing,” Chairman Ann said it best (I have to paraphrase): we found the absolute top end of leftist votes is 52%. In a year where the retiring incumbent was unpopular and several members of his party had been implicated in financial scandal and the party abandoned its fidelity to spending constraints and the party ran Caligula’s horse for president, the leftists still could not garner more than 52%.
Dear Jeff @ 10:54, there is little rationale for states to regulate heterosexual marriage. The laws arose at a time when women were chattel, effectively precluded from most of the acts of free males (e.g., owning real estate in most places.) I would respectfully observe that the market now rejects marriage as a prerequisite to heterosexual cohabitation. There is a theoretical continuing state interest in maintaining marital statutes, for the protection of the progeny. None of that applies to homosexuality. If the state has little reason to regulate heterosexual marriages generally, and no interest in the events of a homosexual marriage, the law has no jurisprudential basis. Thus, our jurisprudence is trivialized by homosexual marriage. The fact that government can regulate does not mean government should regulate it. I note that only big government types urge government ratification of homosexual marriage, and small government types say “keep the government out of the bedroom.”
Dear friendless JohnF @ 11:06, you present a false argument. The absence of a “homosexual marriage” law does not constitute discrimination against anyone, nor does it restrict any freedom. I find bizarre your affection for overlords to regulate your life. California’s popular referendum laws are a useful constraint on the overlords, and I wish Georgia was so liberal.
Dear JLK @ 11:54, you misrepresent the case on Scooter Libby. After the special prosecutor already knew Colin Powell’s associate was the one who leaked Valeria Plame’s identity, he questioned Libby for the first time. Libby was convicted of remembering telephone calls differently from two witnesses whose memories similarly disagreed with each other. Selective bad faith prosecution, typical leftist targeting of political opponents. Nothing unusual there.
By Chad Harris
November 7, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
The runoff in which we will defeat Chambliss (aka the draft dodger) will have Advanced Voting beginning Nov. 24 acc. to SOS and they will not certify the election until next week contrary to what AJC has reported according to SOS. That leaves the chance for mischief, but Martin and other lawyers will be on the case to prevent that.
By ron
November 7, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
Dusty,——-I have to be careful what I say ‘cause Becker doesn’t like me,but would you consider $150,000 too much for a girl to spend on clothes if she had to look good all the time and really didn’t have time to go to the laundramat?I know I wouldn’t.
By Aquagirl
November 7, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
Ah, Dusty, I can always count on you for a stunning display of cognitive dissonance and avoidance.
ME: People who want to teach “alternatives” to evolution are doing something stupid.
DUSTY: Yes.
ME: G. W. Bush thinks creationism should be presented as a science.
YOU: NOT ILLEGAL! STEM CELL RESEARCH! TERRI SCHIAVO! ANYTHING BUT ADMITTING BUSH IS AN IDIOT, EVEN THOUGH HE’S DOING SOMETHING I JUST SAID IS STUPID!
You’re more reliable than a timely train arrival in Nazi Germany.
By Dusty
November 7, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
Chaddie Bumper Harris, 12:45 and 12:50
Now you’ve gone to heavy black print which makes it even easier to skip. But at least you did not take up much room with your propaganda line. You are one busy little bee buzzing around.
Relax. Saxby will put up a fine defense and you will be telling lies about him every day. Ho hum. So what’s new?
By the way, my ID is spelled “Dusty”.
By Dusty
November 7, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Aquagirl,12:58
Poor girl! Your main accusation of George W. Bush is that he is STUPID?
How in the world did Harvard and Yale go so wrong? They did not.
Oh, I see. You don’t agree with him and cannot say in polite terms that you disagree with some of his comvictions. It may not be cognitive dissonace or avoidance but sosmething is really missing with you. I think it is REASON and CIVILITY. But then again it may be that you are just a liberal.
By Sharp Elbows
November 7, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
So, Obama said he was all for change and bringing fresh voices and a new attitude to Washington. Change we can believe in! First, he picks a 30 year veteran political hack as his running mate who likes to make shady land deals in Nevada. Next up, he names one of the biggest partisan far left liberal pit bull as his chief of staff.
And speaking of Emmanuel, note the difference in how the DNC liberal mainstream media portrays him vs. how they referenced Rove: “he’s a strong choice”; “he will get things accomplished”; “he has sharp elbows”. Change we can believe in!
On top of that beginning of what we’ll see in the future, we already see Obama backing off his aggressive “WE’LL FIX THIS ECONOMY ASAP!” promise - and watch the same DNC liberal mainstream media make excuses:
By John W. Schoen Senior producer msnbc.com
*Friday’s dismal employment report underscores the urgent need for President-elect Barack Obama to act quickly to get the economy back on track. But as the devastating economic downturn gains momentum and spreads around the globe, there is a growing concern that any actions under the new administration will have little impact in the short term…Obama’s economic policies likely will have even less impact on the widening global slowdown. *
Not only that, but Obama appears to be backpedaling on his promise to withdraw all troops in Iraq immediately or soon after his inauguration:
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) on Thursday backed off his firm promise to withdraw combat forces from Iraq immediately and instead said he could “refine” his plan after his trip to Baghdad later this month.
Earlier, a top Obama adviser had said that the senator is not “wedded” to a specific timeline.
This is only the beginning too. Oh how disappointed a lot of people are going to be! Yes you morons, you WILL have to continue to buy your own gas. Yes you morons, you WILL have to continue to pay your mortgage. Yes you morons, you WILL have to continue to get up and go to work in the mornings and pay your way through life.
The bottom line here however is that the Democrats’ shift to far left liberalism will be noted and watched by a lot of the people who put them in office under a promise of “moderate” policies. We thinking folks of course - Conservatives - know that these far left socialist liberals really and truly believe they ARE the moderates.
This is going to be good stuff to kick back on and watch!
By Redneck Convert
November 7, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
I’m awful glad the subject of Gov. Palin’s clothes come up. I almost forgot I had to pick up a new pair of white socks at WalMart for my monthly bath.
By JohnF
November 7, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
Dear friendless JohnF @ 11:06, you present a false argument. The absence of a “homosexual marriage” law does not constitute discrimination against anyone, nor does it restrict any freedom. I find bizarre your affection for overlords to regulate your life. California’s popular referendum laws are a useful constraint on the overlords, and I wish Georgia was so liberal.
Yes, that all sounds good doesn’t it? Do you go back over your comments and tell yourself how clever you are?
Sure, there’s no law so there can’t be discrimination. If I was robot trained in legal jargon I would agree…but in the real world your legal explanation is BS and intellectually dishonest, and the fact that you use that as an argument in something so personal speaks volumes about you.
Ok, “relatively” these amendments discriminate and do restrict my freedom to take my relationship into matrimony. (Using GA’s amendment 2 as an example)
I’m $5000.00 poorer this month due to legal fees for services that would probably cost you nothing more than a marriage license fee.
Judging from your post I won’t expect any boo-hoos.
There are benefits that my partner and I would like to enjoy that are not available to us because we have no legal recognition of our relationship.
But it’s not a real relationship anyway is it? I get it…touche’.
You married? How does that jive with your overlord rant?
By What a tool Ann Coulter is
November 7, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
“Caligula’s horse”?
That’s funny coming from a horse-faced horse’s rear. John McCain is an honorable servant of this great nation. Ann Coulter is not.
By @@
November 7, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
I’m convinced that one of the most pervasive forms of corruption in politics is not reporting improvements made on property politicians own
I’m always left to wonder Jim, how many politicians are still escaping scrutiny? And I’m convinced that one contracting company should be given their own office in the Whitehouse. Roto-Rooter to ream out the plumbing of all politicians.
Conservative women and blacks do have that cross to bear.
I’ve noticed that too! After listening to Ralph Nader question whether the newly elected president will be an Uncle Sam for Americans or an Uncle Tom to corporate America.
There is something strange about those on the left, Jim. They seem to possess a sense of superiority which entitles them to attack success with either racist or sexist epithets.
A homestead exemption for those who own a home is the highest and best.
Works for me. I had a mortgage fraudster (squatter) uprooted from both her homes (neither of which she made payments on) by revealing her homestead exemption status. Can’t have it on two.
Politicians that squat or hike should kill the grass where they live. NIMBY!
Redistricting software and the Voting Rights Act have virtually eliminated party competition.
I think hunters call that “scat” that’s been homogenized.
She brought a great deal of good common sense as well as institutional, and education, knowledge to Atlanta.
Common sense is an attribute to any politician since it best serves the common man.
The left loves John McCain again.
After watching leftist’s attack John McCain’s military record, I’ve come to the conclusion they love nothing more than they do “naval” gazing.
Georgia State Sen. Vincent Fort (D-Atlanta) and I practiced unity across the great ideological divide — to no avail.
It’s that common sense thingy Jim. It holds little value among those with a…..ahem! dare I say “superior” intellect?
A school in Jacksonville, Fla., has twice failed state assessment tests.
Funny you should mention that. Down here in Clayton County there was a big rift on naming a school sometime back. The two choices were those of a Native American or an African American. Can’t recall which one won. I would have opted for Joe Plumber.
California voters, despite the state’s Left Coast reputation, can be surprisingly sane.
You know that old saying, Jim……all politics are local. And thank you for saying something nice about my California. Some nuts are cheap there, but Georgia pecans are more affordable here.
No sooner had Barack Obama been elected than the interest groups on the left jumped up to claim credit — or to interpret his win as evidence of the popularity of their cause.
Were they paying attention to the state ballot initiatives. I’d say a lot of their causes were defeated. The HOPE they placed in their PrezE will be too……over time.
Far more important and encouraging is news that for the first time researchers have decoded all the genes of a woman who died of leukemia, identifying a set of mutations that may have caused the disease to progress.
Part of what makes healthcare so expensive IS the R&D.
Here goes…..I cannot say it often enough! Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood viewed African Americans as a mutation which should not be allowed to progress. Suffice it to say, they will NOT be allowed to develop to their full potential under the Democratic Party’s thumbprint.
Identity markers serve only when kept in a political petri dish.
Have a great weekend Jim!
By findog
November 7, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Aquagirl @9:28 While the premise of your argument about the intelligent design crowd is correct the alchemy line is misplaced as they want to burn all of the Harry Potter books.
Communist @9:32 Apparently you count states like Obama, Regan lost only Minnesota who sided with their native son. While the landslide was in the Electoral College it is of historical significance that a democrat won more than fifty-percent of the popular vote for the first time since the voting rights act declared the old south second-rate governments in the management of their electorate.
Aquagirl @12:58 Mussolini was they guy who got the trains to run on time
By Dusty
November 7, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
Dear Ron @12:55
$150,000 for a wardrobe? Of course not. $500,000 at least. Now, for “everyday” lounging around the house things, 150K is OK. But spiffing it up at the Governor’s mansion on $500K would be tough shopping. Might have to resort to GoodWill.
You men have it made. Just run over to Men’s Warehouse and they fix you up on budget in a jiffy. Do we have a Women’s Warehouse? NOOOOOO..As soon as I crack the glass ceiling I shall make A CHANGE in such disparities. Men can’t get away with this. To wear or not to wear? That is the question.
(PS..Becker doesn’t like you? You should try AquaGirl? Miss Congeniality she aint! Not ever.)
By Frost
November 7, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
the leftists still could not garner more than 52%
If u look at it objectively Ragnar,its becoz Obama is black and a 1st at it.There had to be sme resistance, one way or the other.Old habits die hard! If it had been a caucasion(sp) the margin wld have been different. He has garnered 53% when u take into account the recent Nrth Carolina win.Respectable i wld say and in terms of the electoral college votes, a big whopping!
By GayGrayGeek
November 7, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
DustBuster, don’t you have an AFEES office to visit?
WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA, DUSTY?
By ron
November 7, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
Redneck——- Don’t over do it with the water Bud,You know what W.C. Fields said about water.
By AmVet
November 7, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
Dusty, believe what you will, if it makes you feel better.
I will not try to disabuse of your notion, as it is of no interest to me anyway…
By Steven Daedalus
November 7, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this
For all you trying to discuss something with Dusty, Wiliam G McAdoo(1853-1941) once said, “It is impossilble to defeat an ignorant man in an argument.” I know she is a woman, but ir probably still applies.
By GayGrayGeek
November 7, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
Steven Daedalus @ 2:35 - The more apropos aphorism would be the one about trying to teach a pig to sing, I b’leeve.
By Jeff Sanders
November 7, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
At Ragnar,
What are you babbling about? That didn’t address my post. How does gay marriage hurt straight marriage? What is so hard about that question..posed hours ago, that is so hard to answer given so many of you believe it does?
Sanity?!…the Mormon Church spent $2,000,000.00 for Prop 8 and the Catholic Church donated $200,000.00…just to keep the queers from really being able to get hitched.
How many hungry, homeless, destitute people could that money have helped?
And this falls in line with the teaching of Jesus..how?
By Gator Joe
November 7, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
Palin received the treatment she deserves by the press and by those who still think for themselves in this country. Palin is simple-minded and shallow which, Bush not withstanding, are not qualifications for the presidency. She had no reason to exhibit the arrogance and aggressiveness she did during the campaign. I do hope she continues to be a prominent figure in the Republican Party. By the way Republicans, continue to be the party of white, undereducated, narrow-minded Americans and you will lose even more electoral ground.
By Beowulf
November 7, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Personally I hope for a saner crop of representatives from both parties!
Obama is breath of fresh air for the Dems, much better than any candidate I would have envisioned a couple years back, when Hillary was the predicted queen of America.
Likewise, the GOP will soon be providing new fresh faces as the old guard gets the boot. None of this year’s slate of candidates would have done any better, sorry Romney fans. But he will stick around for a while, as will Palin. Think what you want of her intellect, but she did show the country that southern conservatism was not dead. Now the GOP needs to have candidates that can merge that with traditional conservatism. Neocon movement is dead - I think the term is silly but here use it to represent the Bush-era int’l politics with lack of fiscal responsibility. Bobby Jindal will be an exciting contender, whether it be in 2012 or 2016. Others include Tim Pawlenty, Mark Sanford as well as Mr. Romney. The death of the GOP is being prematurely reported, but the new face has not yet been revealed.
The Dems on the other hand, have the opposite problem. Obama is the fresh new face, and looks to reenergize the party faithful. But do not forget those kooks at MoveOn.org. They will not just roll over and play dead, and may not like the shift of focus onto a uniter as Mr. Obama appears to be. While mainstream Democrats will support Obama, the fringe ultra-left may be stuck out in the cold. America, like it or not, remains ultimately central in persuasion. California just voted against gay marriage, but North Carolina voted almost every Dem on the ticket. In the end, people want stability not extremist ideas. Forget any hopes of nationwide blue laws or an overturn of Roe v Wade, as well as any of full acceptance of gay marriage or complete gun bans. All of those ideas are TOO extreme and restrictive for freedom-loving Americans. (if you can’t tell by now I am libertarian!)
I’d love to see the Libertarian party put up a good fight in 2010. But they have to watch carefully - taken to its extreme libertarianism is essentially anarchy - which serves no good at all. Bob Barr put up a good fight, but sadly was born without the ability to smile or joke without utter sarcasm. Garrett Michael Hayes, where are you? You were the best gubernatorial candidate in 2006, please come back! That said, I like Cagle, who is a member of the Republican Liberty Caucus, the sane wing of the GOP! Freedom people, fight for your freedom - do not head down the tempting path toward one party rule, no matter how bad the other one looks right now. That can only lead to disaster…
By jim is a caveman
November 7, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
Sharp Elbows, what possible difference could it make to you that Rahm has been chosen as WH chief of staff? The chief’s responsibility is to set the President’s schedule and keep the rest of the staff in line. Why does it make any difference that he’s a partisan Democrat? Who should he have picked? Why does this choice call into question how Obama is going to govern? You were listening to Sean Hannity last night, weren’t you? Rahm didn’t run Obama’s campaign, didn’t smear his primary opponents with racist smears, etc. You need to step back, take a breath and at least let Obama be inaugurated first. By the way, the public knew he picked Biden for his running mate, and voted for him anyway. Get over it.
By gafarmer
November 7, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
To tw@8:03 Neither candidate was the best their respective parties had to offer, they with the help of questionable others just put together the best political machines to get their name on the ballot. There is a huge difference.
By reader110
November 7, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
Ragnar Danneskjöld = diarrhea of the mouth.
By J
November 7, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this
Jeff S, I think the majority of Californians are saying “don’t equate your homosexual relationship with my heterosexual relationship”. They perceive the redefining of marriage as devaluing it. You may not agree, you may not like it, but they are entitled to their own thoughts.
By Long Live Sarah!
November 7, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
Now HERE’S true Republican conservatism:
“With the election over, it’s time for the full cost of Sarah Palin’s shopping sprees to be revealed. The latest news? Todd Palin wasn’t exactly left out; Alaska’s “First Dude” reaped the benefits of the Republican National Committee’s money too. The Washington Post’s Reliable Sources column says:
On top of the $150,000 first outlined in Federal Election Commission filings, Palin spent “tens of thousands of dollars” on additional clothing, makeup and jewelry for herself and her family, including $40,000 in luxury goods for her husband, Todd, our colleague Michael Shear reports. The campaign was charged for silk boxer shorts, spray tanners and 13 suitcases to carry all the designer clothes, according to two GOP insiders.
The defense for the spending, when the campaign was still going on, was that Sarah Palin’s new clothes were just loaned to her. So who wants a couple pairs of Todd Palin’s silk boxers, slightly used?”
Palin 2012? You betcha! it will be the easiest election the Democrats will ever win.
By J
November 7, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
J,
Thank you..I just wanted to hear someone say it.
No, I don’t agree, but I understand the sentiment…
By BS Aplenty
November 7, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
According to a CNN exit poll, 63% of voters who did not have a high school education voted for O’bama.
I don’t know why I find that amusing but I do.
By Dusty
November 7, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
GGG, 2:32
Are you getting a new line for Christmas? I hope so. That AFFEES thing is getting decrepit, like you.
AmVet,2:34
Nobody made you reply to my posts.
Steven Daedalus.2:35
I don’t believe I have ever discussed anything with you. But glad to see you are quoting William McAdoo. It seems you are about the same age as dear William. Anything you want to discuss? I don’t mind arguing with an ignorant man.
Oh, and check with GGG about singing pigs. I don’t know anything about them but GGG seems quite familiar with swine.
Now, have a nice weekend, folks. The leaves are beautiful. Maybe I’ll see you tomorrow. Maybe not.
By Redneck Convert
November 7, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
Well, I see this MN county election boss put down 28 votes for Franken instead of the 128 Franken got and the godly Republican Coleman is down to just a 200 vote lead before the recount.
If we had more godly people like this county election boss, we wouldn’t be in for the mess we’re about to get in and McCain would be the new President and Raghead wouldn’t be about to mess his pants over taxes.
They ought to be made to leave the count the way the county boss wrote it down. He signed it, so that makes it count. A bunch of libruls up there are about to ruin things.
By Jeff Sanders
November 7, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
This post was from me, not J..brain fart
J,
Thank you..I just wanted to hear someone say it.
No, I don’t agree, but I understand the sentiment…
By TW
November 7, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
With what we now know about Palin, what a slap in the face her pick was to our troops. Bad enough McSame votes against the troops’ GI Bill, but then he brings a possible commander in chief into the mix who ain’t qualified to teach fouth grade geography?????????
Thank God for His Will being done.
Thank God for truly blessing America with the election of President Obama!
By Devastator
November 7, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
CHICAGO – President-elect Obama said Friday that the country is facing the greatest economic challenge of our lifetime and “we’re going to have to act swiftly to resolve it.”
However in his first news conference since winning the presidency Tuesday, Obama deferred to President Bush and his economic team, noting that the country has only one government and one president at a time.
He said the Congress needs to pass an economic stimulus measure either before or just after he takes office in January.
But, he said, “immediately after I become president I will confront this economic crisis head-on by taking all necessary steps to ease the credit crisis, help hardworking families, and restore growth and prosperity.”
“I’m confident a new president can have an enormous impact,” he added.
The president-elect spoke after he and Vice President-elect Joe Biden met privately with economic experts to discuss ways to stabilize the troubled economy.
More evidence of a recession came Friday when the government reported that the unemployment rate had jumped from 6.1 percent in September to 6.5 percent in October. Despite dour third-quarter reports from Ford and General Motors, stocks rose some after two days of heavy losses.
Obama’s transition to power and early days in office, if not the entire first year of his presidency, almost certainly will be devoted to finding ways to remedy dismal economic conditions. The economy was the top concern of voters demanding a new direction as they ushered into office the Democrat who promised change after eight years of Bush’s policies.
On other topics:
He said he will review a letter from Iran’s leader but refrained from directly responding to it. It’s not something “that we should simply do in a knee-jerk fashion,” he said.
“We only have one president at a time,” Obama said, adding that he wants to be careful to send the signal to the world that “I’m not the president and I won’t be until Jan. 20.”
By Just wondering
November 7, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
Why do the British suck at pronunciation? NPR news chick abroad says BAH-ruck OH-bumma. Hope she never tries to travel via flue powder to Diagon Alley.
By Beowulf
November 7, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
I assume her Africa - country gaffe was as much a slip of the mind under stress/pressure as was Obama’s 57 states slip. Come on, you know he’s not that stupid, and neither is she. Give it a rest - the election is over and Obama won. Let Sarah go back to Alaska, and see if she can build up any more momentum and accomplishments for use in 2012. If she can’t she will not be back, but I would not count on that.
Meantime, Obama’s fate is in his hands. If he does as he says and continues to work to unite America and fix problems, and does a good job at it, then 2012 may not matter. Bobby Jindal will run for president some day, it just remains to be seen if it is in 4 or 8 years. I’m not sure Sarah can match him. But can it - she is not stupid. Our accents down here in GA make us sound dumb to the rest of the known world, and you think hers makes her sound like a dull knife?
By Devastator
November 7, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this
It’s not a gaffe if someone is quizzing you to test your knowledge. Sarah is an idiot.
By One Voice
November 7, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this
BS Aplenty @3:12,
You might also note that Obama won just about EVERY demographic, not just those without high school diplomas. He also won amongst college educated and those with graduate degrees. So what is your point? The only demographics that McCain won were 1) white Protestant men from small towns and rural areas and 2) seniors. Hint: Both of those demographic groups are disappearing. That doesn’t bode well for the Republicans in coming years. The seniors who vote in 2016 will be the 45-55 year olds from today who voted for Obama 3 days ago.
By Devastator
November 7, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
I see that Jim is preapproving again. Poor kid.
I wonder if he knows that Africa is a continent.
By Beowulf
November 7, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
Since it seems this blog has turned into a rant line for one-party advocates - tell me how I can rest comfortably with one party having that much power? Of course I think you are wrong - we have a pendulum effect in politics in this nation. Give one party long enough to prove it can’t do any better, and the people swing to the others. Less about issue, more about change. Hmm, sound familiar? However, assuming I am wrong and the GOP is finished, toast, history, how could that POSSIBLY bode well for this nation. Let me list the one-party nations of this world - China (human rights nightmare), USSR (defunct), North Korea (on their way), Venezula (any fans of Uncle Hugo?), etc. Need I say more?
Listen, I have been staunch on both sides (liberal and conservative) and now have settled on a mix (libertarianism). It is important for both sides to be heard and have some power. It would be BETTER to have a strong 3rd party, but that will take time.
In the meantime, give me a GOOD reason why it would be good to see the demise of the GOP. Decades of being under Democrat rule does not sound appealing to me in the least.
By Devastator
November 7, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Beowulf,
Apparently, you haven’t noticed the tanking of the economy that has taken place over the last few weeks due to years of deregulation and greed spawned by policies that favor the rich and ignore the middle class, not to mention the useless deaths of over 4000 US soldiers.
I’d say those are pretty good reasons for the demise of the GOP.
By BSD
November 7, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this
“One Voice” did you really write “less white”?
By mitch l.
November 7, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
when the rich are taxed into oblivion who will look after the poor then? when it comes down to feeding your own family or someone else’s we’ll see if your liberal hearts bleed blue. in this country where opportunity abounds nobody is poor unless they want to be. even birds build nests for a reason. birdbrains don’t.
By Second Tenor
November 7, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
Obama is half as white as me, which makes him less white. I guess. Who cares anyway?
By BS Aplenty
November 7, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
One Voice
He won some of those demographics by a much narrower margin - hence, my amusement.
I would comment that your analysis appears static. You should note that in my first two attempts to pick a president, I voted for James Earl Carter (I know, I’ve said it now). That was when I was 18…and younger…and idealistic…and, well. Thereafter, I’ve become a bunch more responsible.
My sense is that many of those 18-24 year olds who see Obama as “one of their own” today are less likely to see it that way when they start paying for everything including the tax bills - and especially when they have children.
Business cycles and political cycles - count on both.
By Glenn
November 7, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
Let us now begin plans to imprison Buch-the-drunk and his friends. Leiberstein can scout the way to Ft. Leavenworth.
By Sen. John McCain
November 7, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this
When you look at the electoral map it is interesting to discover that the states that voted for me are the same states that fought to continue slavery and segregation.
I hereby apologize for all the bigotry that these individuals have shown throughout history. I thank God for raising President Obama to once again move this country out of the 15th century.
By catlady
November 7, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
Dang! I thought from the title you meant Karen Handel was toast! You know, like outa here!
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 7, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this
Dear Jeff @ 2:45, I am aware of the myopic nature of your question. Homosexual “marriage” in no way offends traditional heterosexual marriage, but it does great damage to our jurisprudence. My apologies for my effort to elevate your vision.
Great posts, Beowulf.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
November 7, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this
Dear spammer @ 4:27, the tanking of the economy is entirely attributable to democrat policies. Ran pretty good from 2002 until 2006.
By One Voice
November 7, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this
BSD,
Did I? Maybe so, but I can’t find it. What don’t you understand? About 60% of the country is made up White people right now and that number is steadily declining. Any more questions?
By One Voice
November 7, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this
BS Aplenty,
I think you’re mistaken if you think everyone abandons their ideals and philosophy with age. I voted for president 5 times for 5 Democrats and I guarantee you I’ll vote for one in 2012 and 2016. Most people aren’t so shallow that they’ll sell their principles for money. I’m sorry for you. Being responsible doesn’t mean making sure you get taxed $50 less per month. It’s making sure your children have the potential for a better future, which is why I vote Democratic.