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DEL.ICIO.USMcGuire best pick for Court of Appeals
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Two suspected conservatives are among the seven running for the Georgia Court of Appeals.
It is possible that there are others. But with the interpretation many judicial candidates have chosen to apply a U.S. Supreme Court opinion that gives them more freedom in campaign speech than the old school wants, voters will not know before casting ballots on Nov. 4.
One can say with some certainty that Perry McGuire “holds rule-of-law, strict constructionist judicial views” and, furthermore, “believes that judges should interpret the law, not create them from the bench.” One can say that with some certainty because he says it of himself.
While the Georgia Court of Appeals does not address constitutional disputes — that’s the purview of the state Supreme Court — it is important to salt the judicial mines with those who express McGuire’s view.
The other suspected conservative in the race is Mike Sheffield, a Gwinnett County lawyer who had a heartbreak loss for the Court of Appeals in 2004 when he first made the runoff by 382 votes before a challenge to the results forced a rerun. He lost.
Whether he is or not, Sheffield is amply experienced with about 300 jury trials and 65 appeals as a prosecutor, public defender and private-practice lawyer.
If you’re just looking for somebody who can do the job, throw a dart. They’re all capable. Vote for long names, vote for short names. Vote the alphabet. Each of them has something to offer.
McGuire, a former Republican state senator from Carrollton, also served as a corporate counsel for Chick-fil-A before becoming a partner in a business and corporate law firm in Cobb County. While trial lawyers tend to support Democrats and therefore find reason to oppose McGuire, for other Georgians having a strict constructionist with expertise in business law on the Court of Appeals would be useful. Most incumbents have trial-related backgrounds, either as judges or as prosecutors.
McGuire, it’s worth noting, has been endorsed by an assortment of legislative leaders who are themselves conservative, including Congressman Lynn Westmoreland of Grantville, Georgia Senate President Pro Tem Eric Johnson of Savannah, and a number of others.
Candidates clearly are allowed to state their personal views on disputed public policy issues, obviously without making promises or implying commitment to rule one way or another on issues to come before the court. Most judicial candidates either declare or imply that they are ethically bound to silence on such issues, an interpretation of the 2002 U.S. Supreme Court decision in Republican Party of Minnesota v. White that is at odds with the majority opinion. Elections are required under the state constitution and, as such, voters should be given responses beyond those lawyers and judges think proper. In Minnesota before the Supreme Court decision, voters were only allowed to ask approved questions. Candidates could offer opinions on cameras in the courtroom, how to reduce caseloads, what they thought about administrative costs, and how women and minorities could be treated more fairly.
The Minnesota decision caused many lawyers and judges great angst. In Georgia, a self-selected group composed mostly of lawyers formed a group calling itself the Georgia Committee for Ethical Judicial Campaign and invited candidates to take a pledge that they would not make misleading statements in judicial campaigns. It’s a pledge I wouldn’t sign on a dare, not because I’d be inclined to misleading utterances but because liberals and conservatives tend to see the world differently. Self-styled groups have biases that aren’t evident. What a group of conservatives and what a group of liberals think is misleading are often entirely different.
No candidate for judicial office should ever surrender to an unelected and non-official group the right to declare which speech is acceptable and which is not in an election. Most of the seven candidates in this race have unwisely signed the pledge giving outsiders authority over their campaigns. The two suspected conservatives haven’t.
McGuire has said, as have others, that he’ll rule strictly on the law as written and not on the basis of personal beliefs or on the outcome he might have advocated as a legislator. A judge on the Court of Appeals “must be impartial and fair, but most importantly must honor the law as written,” he said. “We play the role of an umpire, applying the rules, not making them.”
The seven running for the open seat on the Court of Appeals are all qualified. It’s hard for voters to distinguish one from another. A runoff is certain. Perry McGuire should be one of those left standing.
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By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 28, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. While I voted for Mr. Sheffield, election of Mr. McGuire (or even any of the others) would cause me no angst. So far as I can determine, Jim is correct in his broad “any of the candidates is qualified” assessment. “Appellate Court Justice” holds a slightly different skill set than “Superior Court Judge.” Judges make instant decisions on esoteric “rules” questions and move on – the analogy to a grinding assembly line has a basis. In most ways, “trial judge” is a far more demanding position, especially intellectually, than those positions in the appellate courts, requiring a much deeper knowledge of rules of evidence, one nearly as deep as one needs to pass the bar in the first place. (We all forget half of the rules of evidence once we have the credential.)
Appellate Justices must have a broader perspective, with a general eye to the public policy implications: “How will the interpretation affect other, future trials, and thus our judicial system broadly?” On this point all of our nominees seem to be reasonably qualified to perform the work.
I was unaware of the “pledge” – sounds much like Fred Thompson’s “hands down” issue - and that is sufficient to distinguish Messrs. McGuire and Sheffield. “Resisting the pledge” reflects the degree of development of the longer perspective essential for an appellate justice. Anyone who is wary of demands by any group, especially one named “Georgia Committee for Ethical Judicial Campaign,” undoubtedly has the appropriate temperament to be a talented justice. Judges and Justices need to select carefully the groups to which they would subordinate their own judgment, i.e., they should not do it at all. We should choose justices according to their capacity to exercise their own judgment, not for their willingness to bend to external pressures.
Courts arise in a different, if intellectually-related context today. Dr. Sowell argues the best reason to oppose Obama, those Obama would nominate to the Federal courts.
By Reality Check
October 28, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten:
On yesterday a plot was broken up that was attempting to KILL a the likely next president of the United States, and you choose to write about this? I wonder what you would have written if it were a couple of muslims taht were plotting to kill Mccain?
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 28, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
Jim hints at the distinction between Appellate and Supreme Court Justices. The suggestion is valid, and one of my academic exercises is, “Should a Supreme Court justice have a law school degree?” I think an understanding of the mechanics of law is essential for trial courts, and for appellate courts that review the works of trial courts. That argument is not so true for a supreme court. I think a reasonable capacity to read and apply the plain language of constitutions and derivative statutes may often be inhibited by the attorney’s trained ability to see both sides of any issue. (I hope that phrase “derivative statutes” provokes an argument.) Today’s jbmlaw Constitutional amendment would preclude any appointment to a supreme court for anyone who practiced law more than two years. Yes that is frivolous, but no more so than an amendment requiring states to permit 18 year olds to vote
By Dennis
October 28, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten writes, “One can say with some certainty that Perry McGuire “holds rule-of-law, strict constructionist judicial views” and, furthermore, “believes that judges should interpret the law, not create them from the bench.” One can say that with some certainty because he says it of himself…While trial lawyers tend to support Democrats and therefore find reason to oppose McGuire, for other Georgians having a strict constructionist with expertise in business law on the Court of Appeals would be useful.”
I wonder if Mr. Wooten and others who espouse this “strict” belief realize that to strictly apply it would nullify all first interpretations of the Constitution?
The kinds of judges we need Mr. Wooten, are those who do not interpret the law in an ego-centric manner.
Yet, these statements, “McGuire has said, as have others, that he’ll rule strictly on the law as written and not on the basis of personal beliefs or on the outcome he might have advocated as a legislator. A judge on the Court of Appeals “must be impartial and fair, but most importantly must honor the law as written,” he said. “We play the role of an umpire, applying the rules, not making them.”, is a contradictory statement and plays the game both ways.
So much for strict interpretation….
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
October 28, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
I’d vote for Saxby the Socialist if he was a Republican but his vote goes to the highest paying LOBBYIST. How about Saxby’s $473,000,000 earmark for RACE HORSES in the Farm Act, he certainly doesn’t repesent me. I voted for Buckley in the General Election & will vote Martin in the run off. Why would anyone vote for a big spending, big government, pro amnesty LIBERAL like Saxby the SOCIALIST.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 28, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this
Dear reality @ 8:16, what kind of argument begins with “On yesterday?” “On, Wisconsin” I could understand. And you mention two Islamists trying to kill McCain. Only two? Has President Bush’s extinction program of al Qaeda been that successful? And that dithering passive voice – “was broken up.” Leftist are always broken up, emotional instability is characteristic. I yield to PoFo aka Strunk for the remainder of your lesson in style.
Dear Dennis @ 8:36, “I wonder if Mr. Wooten and others who espouse this “strict” belief realize that to strictly apply it would nullify all first interpretations of the Constitution?” Yes, we do - that is not a bad thing. If the Constitution is a rock, and not a squishy amorphous blob of words, the logic works as well the 80th time as the first.
By Churchill's MOM
October 28, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this
Jim, here’s our Palin for today, who cares about a bounh of judges,, get on with the serious stuff about our GAL…
Sarah Palin may soon be free. Soon, she may not have the millstone of John McCain around her neck. And she can begin her race for president in 2012.
Some are already talking about it. In careful terms. If John McCain loses next week, Sarah Palin “has absolutely earned a right to run in 2012,” says Greg Mueller, who was a senior aide in the presidential campaigns of Pat Buchanan and Steve Forbes. Mueller says Palin has given conservatives “hope” and “something to believe in.”
And even if the McCain-Palin ticket does win on Nov. 4 — and Mueller says it could — “if McCain decides to serve for just one term, Sarah Palin as the economic populist and traditional American values candidates will be very appealing by the time we get to 2012.”
It is clear that while trying to bond with voters, John McCain and Sarah Palin have not managed to bond with each other. Perhaps we should not be surprised. They barely know one another.
When McCain appeared on the “Late Show With David Letterman” on Oct. 16, McCain praised Palin but went out of his way to point out how little he knew about her before he chose her as his running mate. “I didn’t know her real well,” McCain said. “I knew her reputation. I didn’t know her well at all. I didn’t know her well at all.”
The discomfort between the two can be palpable. Chuck Todd, the NBC News political director, was in the room when Brian Williams interviewed Palin and McCain recently. “There was a tenseness,” Todd said later. “When you see the two of them together, the chemistry is just not there. You do wonder, is John McCain starting to blame her for things? Blaming himself? Is she blaming him?”
I am guessing one and three. John McCain is blaming Palin for demonstrating her inexperience and lack of knowledge. And Palin is blaming McCain for running what she views as a bad campaign — a campaign that did not go after Barack Obama over the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and did not exploit Obama’s statement about how small-town people “cling” to guns and religion — and for never picking a clear message that had any traction with voters.
But here’s the difference: If McCain loses, he doesn’t get to run again, and Palin does.
All that negative stuff about her? Charging Alaska taxpayers a per diem allowance for 300 nights she spent at home, flying her kids at state expense to events they were not invited to, accepting wildly expensive clothes from the Republican National Committee and, according to one ethics panel, having abused her office as governor?
Not only will all that have faded by the 2012 campaign, Palin already has her defense ready: Some of these accusations are part of a double standard that is applied to women and not to men.
She says Hillary Clinton ran into the same problem.
“I think Hillary Clinton was held to a different standard in her primary race,” Palin told Jill Zuckman of the Chicago Tribune recently. “Do you remember the conversations that took place about her — say, superficial things that they don’t talk about with men, like her wardrobe and her hairstyles, all of that, that’s a bit of that double standard. Certainly there’s a double standard.”
Palin went on: “But I’m not going to complain about it, I’m not going to whine about it, I’m going to plow through that because we are embarking on something greater than that, than allowing that double standard to adversely affect us.”
If she runs in 2012, Palin will run to shatter the glass ceiling. By then, Americans may have shown they are willing to vote for an African-American for president, but how about a woman?
Mueller thinks Palin would make a strong candidate. There certainly will be others jockeying for the job. And Mueller named Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour.
But Mueller thinks that, while some conservative intellectuals have deserted and derided Sarah Palin, the Republican base likes her and could stick with her.
“She would run in 2012 as the populist, conservative reformer that she was originally introduced to the country as,” Mueller said. “If Obama wins, you will see him moving the country to a sort of Euro-socialism. That will fail, and she can target an economic-populist message to the country.”
Mueller also argues that Palin could run a more convincing campaign on traditional conservative issues in 2012 than McCain has in 2008
“One weakness in McCain’s campaign is not campaigning on strong, pro-life, traditional values issues,” Mueller said. “There has been a certain level of discomfort over the years by McCain over guns, God and life issues.”
Mueller says McCain and Palin could still win next week. But if that happens, Mueller thinks Palin should get a lot of the credit. “A lot of conservatives are not excited by John McCain, even though I think he has been saying some good things,” Mueller said. “If they vote, they will vote for Sarah.”
And if not in 2008, maybe in 2012.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
You will have to excuse Rag Boy this morning, he is now unemployed…seems his boss found him blogging all day long insead of working and fired his butt….Ah guess RagBoy is going back to law school at night, so he can more fully exploit his main source of income now days, chasing ambulances in hope of find people to sue….Rag wants to vertically integrate, from just being a runner to be the attorney representing the alleged victims, but first there is that pesky degree, and then the dreaded law boards, but Rag has a plan to cheat on both…Meanwhile, Woodenhead has been burning all the minutes of his klan meetings and other wise covering his trail, what with the ATF catching two members of his SkinHead cell. No Klan meeting in Woodies basement this Wednesday, the heat is on…
By deegee
October 28, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
Anyone that has the support of Eric Johnson must be okay in the Wootang Gang’s book. See below, interview with CNN during the Genarlow Wilson debacle. The great interpreter, Eric Johnson, sees what the jury doesn’t.
“Back to the Georgia legislature, which recently changed the law but didn’t change Genarlow Wilson’s punishment. Why not?
State Senator Eric Johnson took the floor.
ERIC JOHNSON, GEORGIA STATE SENATOR: Mr. Wilson participated in multiple sexual acts with a minor while she was unconscious.
SANCHEZ: Wrong. The girl was not unconscious. The senator also said she was raped. That’s not even what the prosecutor thought.
So we called the senator and asked for an interview.
(on camera) Do you feel bad about the fact that you characterized this as a rape when you were talking yesterday in the Senate?
JOHNSON: No.
SANCHEZ: You don’t have any problem with that?
JOHNSON: No.
SANCHEZ: Because it wasn’t a rape.
JOHNSON: It’s a rape in my mind.
SANCHEZ (voice-over): Here’s what it was in the minds of the jurors. We know; we talked to them.
MARIE MANIGAULT, JURY FOREPERSON: When we viewed the tape, there was absolutely nothing in there that showed us that he in any way encouraged this person, even invited the person to come.
SANCHEZ: So for now, the Georgia legislature has done nothing, leaving Genarlow Wilson behind these walls, hoping some day for justice.”
By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
October 28, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
Economic news of the day, All they need to do is send Saxby a check & they’ll get their subsidy…Yes Dusty they need to send Hunter Biden a check also..
General Motors and Chrysler want the government to help finance a merger they hope will revive their fortunes — and the Bush administration is considering a range of options to do just that, The New York Times’s Edmund L. Andrews and Bill Vlasic reported Tuesday.
One of three options under review, The Times said, is using the Treasury Department’s wide-ranging authority under the $700 billion bailout program that Congress approved this month.
Another option under consideration is to tap a $25 billion loan program that Congress just created to help the auto companies modernize their plants. A third option would involve going back to Congress for authority to spend funds aimed specifically at the auto industry.
But Andrew Ross Sorkin, writing in his latest DealBook column, argues that unless and until the government is willing to let Detroit make the hard choices that are required, any investment would just be a Band-Aid.
“The combined company would probably limp along, laying off thousands of people every few years,” Mr. Sorkin writes. “Then — bet on it — G.M.-Chrysler would come back and ask for another bailout.”
By TW
October 28, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this
Saxby is not a real conservative nor will he ever be one.
I guess the issue for me is this. The GOP doesn’t even pretend to have answers anymore. The only people who have solid ideas are the Dems. I don’t agree with all of them, but at least their pushing an agenda instead of trying to scare voters.
By W Bush
October 28, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
Yeah, and if the GOP were a center-right party… instead of a loose patchwork of social wedge issues, hawkish nation-building, and enormous entitlement spending… I might then buy into the “stop the Obama boogeyman!” mentality. They aren’t so I won’t.
Frankly, going forward it will be a toss-up for me to decide whether my vote could do more good helping moderate Republicans in their primary, or Blue Dog Democrats in their primary. Here in Georgia, at least a few Blue Dogs run that can give me the option. We’ll see who’s running in the next GOP primary.
By Peter
October 28, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
Hi as we see in the news the REPUBLICAN’S do NOT care about the Enviornment !
With time short, Bush pushes EPA to relax power-plant rule
WASHINGTON — At the Bush administration’s direction, the Environmental Protection Agency is working on a new rule that would weaken pollution regulations for power plants, allowing them to increase emissions without adding controls.
EPA officials have been working on a fast track to meet a Saturday deadline, but many of them are arguing against changing the rule, said former EPA attorney John Walke and an EPA career official who spoke only on the condition of anonymity because the official wasn’t authorized to make statements.
The EPA official said that concerns in the agency were that the analysis justifying the rule change was weak and the administration didn’t plan to make the analysis public for a comment period, as is customary.
Walke charged in a comment to the EPA that the rule would amount to a “parting gift to the utility industry.”
The rule change applies to old plants that are expanded or upgraded to prolong their lives. The changes can make them more efficient but not as clean as they’d be with modern pollution controls.
The emissions bring smog, acid rain and particulates. The Bush administration argues that carbon dioxide, which power plants also emit, shouldn’t be regulated under the Clean Air Act.
MORE REPUBLICAN Crap………Republican’s Not About American’s about Big Business !
Vote for Change…….Obama!
By Dennis
October 28, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
Ragnar Danneskjöld October 28, 2008 8:40 AM
Dear Dennis @ 8:36, “I wonder if Mr. Wooten and others who espouse
this “strict” belief realize that to strictly apply it would nullify all first interpretations of the Constitution?” Yes, we do - that is not a bad thing. If the Constitution is a rock, and not a squishy amorphous blob of words, the logic works as well the 80th time as the first.”
If that is the case, Ragnar, that the Constitution is not a living document and open to interpretaion rather than being a fixed “rock”, females and minorities in this country do not have the right to vote.
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
Clean Sweep, Clean Sweep…Let’s help President Obama by giving him complete control of the House and the Senate, everyone vote a straight Democratic ticket this election…..
By Peter
October 28, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this
More Lies that we have NOT Been TOLD about John McCain…………
McCain pushed regulators for land swap, despite pledge.
WASHINGTON — Years after he resurrected his political fortunes from the Keating Five savings and loan investigation, John McCain promoted an Arizona land swap that would’ve benefited a former mentor and partner of the scandal’s central figure.
The owners of the Spur Cross Ranch, a dramatic 2,154-acre tract of Sonoran desert just north of Phoenix, in the late 1990s sought to sell it to a developer who planned to build a premier golf course surrounded by 390 luxury homes.
Nearby residents and environmentalists, however, wanted to preserve the area’s unusual cacti, stone formations and hundreds of Hopi Indian tribal artifacts.
After opposition surfaced, the developer sought McCain’s help in forging a land swap with the U.S. Forest Service — a deal that also would benefit the owners of the ranch, including a company controlled by billionaire Carl H. Lindner Jr., an associate of S&L chief Charles H. Keating.
McCain and an aide pushed for the exchange in more than a half dozen sometimes-testy letters and phone calls up and down the Forest Service’s hierarchy, according to former agency officials and correspondence. McCain’s office even circulated draft legislation that would have overridden the agency’s objection to surrendering national forest land. Ultimately, the deal fell apart.
McCain’s behind-the-scenes maneuvering on Spur Cross contrasts with his image as a congressional ethics champion and his pledge — made after the Keating scandal in 1991 sullied his reputation — never to intervene with regulators again.
McCain’s actions, which went on for nearly two years, also appear at odds with boasts in his 2002 book, “Worth the Fighting For,” that he’d never pressured regulators at any time since 1991 and acted only on matters that “serve an obvious public purpose.”
McCain said at the time that his efforts were aimed solely at preserving “one of the most pristine and beautiful desert areas in America.”
Federal Election Commission records show that in the three years beginning in mid-1997, McCain’s Senate campaign and his 2000 presidential campaign received more than $9,000 from Lindner, developer Lang and other backers of the deal. Several donations were made in close proximity to his Forest Service letters. His committees also got more than $25,000 from members of lobbying firms representing Great American’s parent, the American Financial Group, on various issues.
This year, the 89-year-old Lindner and his son, Carl H. Lindner III, have raised more than $300,000 for McCain’s presidential campaign
John McCain a real Liar…………Believing him is Like Believing BUSH !
By The Snark
October 28, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this
At what point do self-professed “conservative” values COMPLETELY outweigh competence? No offense, Jim, but you are a complete sucker for anyone who is willing to open his mouth and let the politically correct right-wing shibboleths come out. This guy is utterly incompetent to be an appellate judge. Perry McGuire has never even argued a case before the Court of Appeals. Neither you nor McGuire has a clue about what an appellate judge does on a day to day basis.
I would think that the last eight years would have taught you that ideology is no substitute for knowledge.
By Peter
October 28, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
Please read this…….. REPUBLICAN’S are NOT concerned with American security, or helping the Iraq Government and their people……They are trying to Blackmail Iraq !
U.S. threatens to halt services to Iraq without troop accord
BAGHDAD _ The U.S. military has warned Iraq that it will shut down military operations and other vital services throughout the country on Jan. 1 if the Iraqi government doesn’t agree to a new agreement on the status of U.S. forces or a renewed United Nations mandate for the American mission in Iraq.
Many Iraqi politicians view the move as akin to political blackmail, a top Iraqi official told McClatchy Sunday.
In addition to halting all military actions, U.S. forces would cease activities that support Iraq’s economy, educational sector and other areas _ “everything” _ said Tariq al Hashimi, the country’s Sunni Muslim vice president. “I didn’t know the Americans are rendering such wide-scale services.”
Hashimi said that Army Gen. Ray Odierno, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq, listed “tens” of areas of potential cutoffs in a three-page letter, and he said the implied threat caught Iraqi leaders by surprise.
“It was really shocking for us,” he said. “Many people are looking to this attitude as a matter of blackmailing.”
Seems like the Bush administration wants to Push Around Iraq in the form of threats, a situation that would create an unsafe Mid East, if Iraq does not agree !
REPUBLICAN’S would be responsible for the Bailing out on the Country it invaded for OIL !
Vote for John McCain……. Weaken America !
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
Did the ATF just raid the ajc and arrest Woodie? Did Woodie do the perp walk down Marietta Street? No, well let me know if it happens…..
By A different Joe
October 28, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
Mr. Crooks, The reason your breath stinks is that you keep talking out of your a$$.
By Steven Daedalus
October 28, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
Will Ted Stevens get to vote from jail?
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 28, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
Dear Dennis @ 9:15, I think you misread the 14th and 19th Amendments, or perhaps you take the “living, breathing” approach to jurisprudence, and read those out of the Constitution, as the leftists did with the final clause of the 5th Amendment, in Kelo?
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
A different Joe - When you say Crooks, are you referring to Saxby? Ok, then I agree with you, he is a Crook, and yes his breath does smell like dog poop….but then again, so does yours….
By Steven Daedalus
October 28, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
The Republicans now have a majority in the senate, a majority in jail.
By Steven Daedalus
October 28, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
Thr Republicans are holding their next national convention in Kansas, at Leavenworth.
By Steven Daedalus
October 28, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
What kind of bird can’t fly? A Republican, I mean a jailbird.
By mm
October 28, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
“believes that judges should interpret the law, not create them from the bench.”
Hasn’t the shelf life expired on that one?
Geez, do you wingnuts ever come up with something original?
By ron
October 28, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
Good morning,When I vote for a judge it’s up to me to vote for the one I think will interpret the law as I would interpret the law.If I have little information,I can’t make a choice benefitting me.
One should not have to choose either a conservative or liberal judge if it’s their job only to interpret the law.The law should be the same,regardless of one’s persuasion.We all know that’s not true.Thus we enter the realm of activist judges,to be interpreted by me as any judge that rules on any point of law thar differs from my own point of view.
Ragnar—- Well spoken——I’ll think about the idea of having a Supreme Court composed of non-lawyers.A butcher,a baker,a candlestick maker.A black,a Jew,a varied hue.Half women,half men,not an oversight,that leaves room for a transvestite.Some old,some young,some inbetween,who knows,we might even have a teen.Can we represent everyone with only nine?With multiple qualifications we’ll do just fine.
By Dusty
October 28, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Well, Jim Wooten gives us some good advice on judges this morning. Ragnar gives us the legal points without prejudice. Then the DemiDumbards make their usual trash run for the morning. Let’s see.
Churchill’s Mom—Forget Palin. Let’s hear about Beauregard the Bumbler Biden. Is his suit expensive? Does he want to be President? How’s his family managing without him? Does he belong to the terrorist wing of the Rotary Club? Is his son still a lobbyist in Washington? Let’s talk about BIDEN.
Repubs R Crooks, Dennis, Peter,Snark,TW, W Bush, deegee, Bo Chambliss, Reality Check—-the whole kit and kabootle of DemDottieHeads of Worry Warts for Wooten are here. It’s a motley lib crew, Jim Wooten, but the best they could do this morning. The “crew” are drinking black coffee at the moment so that may help.
I won’t be around to enjoy the merry moments much of today. Ragnar will be nice to you. He’s a man of fortitude and facts. See ya later…..
By Dusty
October 28, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
Just leaving but Ron gave us some POETRY!! Great!! My favorite poem at the moment is TIGER by William BLake. What’s yours, Ron??? See ya later….
By Peter
October 28, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Dusty, you Boys are liars……Bush, McCain, and the rest……..
Republican’s are not for a Secure America…..just for their Personal Pockets like Ted Stevens !
This will be a Mantra for America, and Republican’s will wonder what happened !
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Could Ted Stevens be turning States Evidence on Saxby? I sure hope so…..Stay tuned…
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
LATimes just fired another 75 workers, anyone of which could write better than our little Idiot of the AJC, imho….Upgrade the ajc, fire woodenhead and hire a recently fire latimes reporter….
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
That’s paper tiger dusty, a Paper Tiger Burning Bright into the Night….ha ha ha….burn baby burn…The Repuke Party is the paper tiger, and it is going to burn come 11/4/8…..
By ron
October 28, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
Dusty——Robert Frost’s,’The Road not Taken”,has to be my all time favorite,but Sandberg’s “The Fog”is nice also.
By getalife
October 28, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
Well, I was going to vote gop because I want to bomb more babies and the world does not hate us enough.
We need another depression not just a recession saved by socialism of the rich.
We need more wingnuts to spew more hatred and keep our country divided.
We need more poor and hungry children with no health care and no schools.
We need to keep buying oil from the ME and global warming is a scam.
We need no accountability for crimes unless they are the people.
The Constitution is just a piece of paper and all government should be gop.
We need w policies forever because they work so well.
But then I decided to be a “real American”, think about “country first” and vote for Obama.
By Redneck Convert
October 28, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
Well, I don’t understand much of what Wooten and Raghead are saying today. All I know is I want judges that will use the Death Penalty and make sure it sticks.
I just want this election to be over with. I didn’t hardly sleep at all last night on account of a bad dream. I was in a public bathroom and all the stalls were filled. The godly Rep. Foley was in one, writing love notes to some boys. The godly Sen. Vitter was walking around in a diaper, waiting for a stall to empty. The godly Sen. Craig was in a stall tapping shoes with somebody in the next stall. Then along comes the godly Sen. Stevens, saying somebody give him the title to the bathroom that cost $250,000 but he only paid $70,000 on account of he couldn’t talk the seller into sending him a bill for the rest.
Anyhow, it was a crazy dream and all I got to say is this election better get over fast before they get a picture of all the godly Republicans in Congress in a big knot in a orgy and counting cash. We got to have Fambly Values and if this stuff keeps up we won’t have nobody left in Congress to uphold them.
Have a good day everybody.
By Andrea
October 28, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
What can John McCain do?
I’m glad you asked Wootsie. McCain can vote for Obama. That’s what he can do.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
October 28, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
Vote the straight Democratic ticket! Elect Jim Martin and rid the Senate of the liar and thief, Saxby Chambliss!
By Cornbread Fred
October 28, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Here’s some more poetry: Do I love Dusty? Yes I do! Broiled, baked or in a stew!
By Sally
October 28, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
This has to be the bottom. the Oct. 2002 bottom is only a standard deviation away from the levels here. Go for it.
Buy. BUY. BUY!!
ISAIDBUY!!
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
If McCain truely lives the words “Country First” then he will vote for Obama…
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
October 28, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
Krusty’s off working a clown gig. Hope she doesn’t scare the little children. One week from today, we’ll be rid of the Republinazis! Then Palin can appear on Oprah and begin her campaign to stay out of jail. Citizen Ted Stevens can do the same. George W. Hitler can begin to put together his defense of the war crimes he’s committed. Let’s not forget citizen Chambliss. He’s got a defense to work on too. He’s a thief!
By Chad Harris
October 28, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
In case the Wingnuts didn’t get it, the 3 judge panel found Karen Handel violated Title 5 (da law to you Dusty)and her attempt to strike several thousands of voters (Democratic) off the roles has been foiled. This means she won’t be able to take away your vote if the data bases have screwed up, or if you were 16 and included your middle initial on your driver’s licesne or social security application but left it out on your voter registration. The challenge ballots give everyone flagged an opportunity to address mistakes, and they must be given notice in a timely fashion—not the day of demand of proof as Jose Morales was.
This was major. Handel had purported falsely that the 50,378 total mismatches that her goofey and flawed computer program found wree legit, and nearly all of them were because of input mistakes on the data bases or initial middle name type mismatches. It was a nasty attempt to steal the election, and it was foiled. This is the way the Wooten crowd wants to win elections, and it’s the Perry McGuire way.
The last thing we need on the bench is a Perry McGuire.
When conservative judges create law from the bench, and they do it often in the federal judiciary, Wooten finds nothing wrong with it. Again the definition for Wooten and other Wingnuts of an activist judge is a judge who issues an opinion they don’t like, period.
It’s a victory for democracy and a defeat for partisan Republican vote cagers in Georgia.
Our main job is to get out the vote. If we can get out the vote in decent numbers, then moroncuda goes off the TV sets in 7 days.
If I were a wingnut, and Palin were my candidate, I’d leave the party. They bet on stupidity and they lost the bet. You could have had thousands of capable women or men and your party sold you out.
Palin’s negative drag on the ticket rises every day—if you think I’m kidding check Pollster or www.fivethirtyeight.com
The ruling against Handel is a ruling against the arrogance of lawyers from the AG’s office who were so arrogant they ignored the law that has mandated Georgia as a state with a rich history of voter violations that played out during Jim Wooten’s adult life preclear any changes since 1964.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
Sell Sally, Sell, Sell, Sell like your 401k or 403b depends on it….This is not the bottom…The Repuke crooks have loaded public companies with massive amounts of bad debt….Sell, Sell, Sell
By Ga Values
October 28, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
What is the difference between Ted Stevens & Saxby Chambliss?
Ted works for Alaska LOBBYIST but Saxby wprks for Iowa Corn Farmers, New Youk Wall Streeters & of course Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST.Fire Saxby Here, Fire Saxby Now, Pay Less
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
Zoo Atlanta’s pregnant elephant dies - Bad Omen for 11/4/8 elections….Wooten goes into hiding….GOP seeks new mascot….Cockroach suggested…..McCain to put Country First, Vote for Obama…
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
New Mascot for GOP accepted: The CockRaoch…Evita Palin likes the CockRoach symbol, seeing as how she bears a striking resemblance to a big ROACH herself…..
By Saxby W Bush
October 28, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
If the war/surge is such a success why isn’t Bo Chambliss in Iraq instead of making all the country club booze parties in D.C.? What’s going to happen to that “surge success” when the Shiite militia calls of the cease fire and the thousands of Sunni insurgents (aka the “CLC”) we are paying millions to get tired of fighting for a country they hate, and there is still no political progress on the most significant contentious issues?
Some 70,000 former insurgents are now being paid $10 a day by the U.S. military. It costs about a quarter billion dollars a year in the three trillion dollar fiasco that’s helping to usher in Depression II.
Ole Saxbuh voted 99% with Bushie in the last eight years. His pronouncements during the passage of the illegal wiretapping debacle were simply false statements meant to take advantage of an indifferent and uneducated populace who is getting the democracy they deserve including the bills Bo writes for the Chicago Mercantile exchange.
Saxby still flies Corporate Jet Air free on company owned planes in a familiar quid pro quo.
“It leaves when you want to leave. It goes where you want it to go when you want it to go there. You don’t have to go through the normal security, and you get a lot more than peanuts.”
Little Bo is a recipient of this largess as well.
A spokesman for US Tobacco, Mike Bazinet, said that it received more requests for planes than it could fulfill and that it generally sent a representative on the flights. A spokeswoman for Federal Express, Kristin Krause, said it was policy to do just that. Ms. Krause rejected the notion that FedEx lobbyists had undue access.
“The way you get there is less important than what you do while you’re there,” said Mr. Chambliss, who spent more on corporate jet travel than any other incumbent senator, the Political Money Line said.
Mr. Chambliss said he never spoke to a lobbyist “about any particular issue” on his trips.
I wasn’t on the plane, but ole Saxbuh flew for free on corporate jets than any other Senatuh.
Here’s lookin at ya Bo and Saxbuh:
Saxby the Sugar Stooge. One of the biggest corporate stooges in the Senate, Saxby took corporate loyalty to a new level at a Senate hearing on Friday.
Based on his demeanor at a Senate hearing on Friday you would think Saxby owned Imperial Sugar Company.Well maybe Imperial Sugar owns him.
Saxby is arguing that a “whistleblower” is responsible for a February explosion that killed 13 people at the Imperial Sugar company plant in Port Wentworth, Georgia. Keep in mind that Graham. H. Graham (the man being questioned) had only worked at the plant for three months, while others allege years of safety violations.
Let’s follow the quotes and then follow the money and even Saxby’s son ,the corporate lobbyist, and his connections:
The Article in the Houston Chronicle says
“Chambliss also said he has not been influenced by any lobbyists for the Sugar Land, Texas-based company or by his son, Bo. The younger Chambliss is an in-house Washington lobbyist for the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, which also is represented by an outside firm that lobbies for Imperial Sugar. “My purpose has been to try to get the facts out,” Chambliss said. “This guy (Graham) is an agent of the company. How anybody can interpret that I’m doing something for the benefit of the company when really I’m chastising their agent is beyond me … The company’s got to stand on their own. I’m not about to defend them in any way.”
However that is countered by Graham and his attorneys as well as the other Georgia Senator Johnny Isakson.
“Hilder and others have accused Chambliss of doing the company’s bidding on Tuesday when he sharply questioned Graham at a Senate hearing. Chambliss’ questions raised eyebrows because no one aside from Imperial had publicly doubted Graham’s claims. That includes Chambliss’ fellow Georgia Republican, Johnny Isakson. The two rarely split, but Isakson says he has full faith in Graham’s account.”
Let’s follow the money for a second
This might show a little inisght as to why the questions of bias arise.
Look at Imperial Sugar’s PAC $1,000 to Saxby Chambliss this cycle- $2,000 of which was contributed by John Sheptor
John Sheptor is President and CEO of Imperial Sugar who is compensated quite handsomely.
There are several others with ties to Imperial Sugar that have contributed to the PAC Harold Mechler - CFO is a $500 Contributor to the PAC
Gaylord Coan - $1,000 contributor to the PAC is a director
(Apparently Savannah Congressman John Barrow returned some of the money he was given by Imperial and he’s not even questioning them at a Senate hearing)
Saxby Chambliss has received $21k from the Sugar industry this cycle.
Saxby Chambliss has a son Bo Chambliss who works for the Chicago Mercantile Exchange as a registered lobbyist (the quote is correct there)
Clarence “Bo” Saxby Chambliss has given $2,000 to the Chicago Mercantile PAC.
The Chicago Mercantile lobbyist works on behalf of several companies with ties to the Sugar Industry.
Googling lobbying and CME, we found one article that shows that
The Chicago Mercantile Exchange is employing the son of Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) to lobby members of his father’s congressional committee and other lawmakers on legislation that may increase trading at the exchange. Clarence Saxby “Bo” Chambliss Jr. is one of two staff lobbyists at the Merc charged with “providing information on issues that impact our industry to decision-makers in Washington,” Merc spokesman David Prosperi said Friday. Saxby Chambliss heads the Senate Agriculture Committee, which jointly oversees the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and must this year pass legislation reauthorizing the futures regulator through 2011. The CFTC’s current authority expires Sept. 30. The panel may vote as early as this month on a bill to reauthorize the CFTC, said a committee spokesman.
Now there isn’t much recusing Bo Chambliss can do with one other lobbyist unless that lobbyist is doing the heavy lifting while Bo is giving mulligans to Judge Smails
Probably not much of a stretch to say that Saxby has some questions to answer about his claim that he is not biased. We will keep searching to see if we can find more connections between Saxby and Imperial Sugar. Or we will let you know if Saxby follows suit of John Barrow and returns the PAC contributions. Conclusion: Saxby Chambliss needs to go home or get a job at some Sugar Refinery (Remember what he did to Max Cleeland) and remember Saxbuh faked a knee injury that was not examined with any modern degree of medical comp;etence and Bo chooses not to serve like so many other Republican cowards.
By Saxby W Bush
October 28, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
If the war/surge is such a success why isn’t Bo Chambliss in Iraq instead of making all the country club booze parties in D.C.? What’s going to happen to that “surge success” when the Shiite militia calls of the cease fire and the thousands of Sunni insurgents (aka the “CLC”) we are paying millions to get tired of fighting for a country they hate, and there is still no political progress on the most significant contentious issues?
Some 70,000 former insurgents are now being paid $10 a day by the U.S. military. It costs about a quarter billion dollars a year in the three trillion dollar fiasco that’s helping to usher in Depression II.
Ole Saxbuh voted 99% with Bushie in the last eight years. His pronouncements during the passage of the illegal wiretapping debacle were simply false statements meant to take advantage of an indifferent and uneducated populace who is getting the democracy they deserve including the bills Bo writes for the Chicago Mercantile exchange.
Saxby still flies Corporate Jet Air free on company owned planes in a familiar quid pro quo.
“It leaves when you want to leave. It goes where you want it to go when you want it to go there. You don’t have to go through the normal security, and you get a lot more than peanuts.”
Little Bo is a recipient of this largess as well.
A spokesman for US Tobacco, Mike Bazinet, said that it received more requests for planes than it could fulfill and that it generally sent a representative on the flights. A spokeswoman for Federal Express, Kristin Krause, said it was policy to do just that. Ms. Krause rejected the notion that FedEx lobbyists had undue access.
“The way you get there is less important than what you do while you’re there,” said Mr. Chambliss, who spent more on corporate jet travel than any other incumbent senator, the Political Money Line said.
Mr. Chambliss said he never spoke to a lobbyist “about any particular issue” on his trips.
I wasn’t on the plane, but ole Saxbuh flew for free on corporate jets than any other Senatuh.
Here’s lookin at ya Bo and Saxbuh:
Saxby the Sugar Stooge. One of the biggest corporate stooges in the Senate, Saxby took corporate loyalty to a new level at a Senate hearing on Friday.
Based on his demeanor at a Senate hearing on Friday you would think Saxby owned Imperial Sugar Company.Well maybe Imperial Sugar owns him.
Saxby is arguing that a “whistleblower” is responsible for a February explosion that killed 13 people at the Imperial Sugar company plant in Port Wentworth, Georgia. Keep in mind that Graham. H. Graham (the man being questioned) had only worked at the plant for three months, while others allege years of safety violations.
Let’s follow the quotes and then follow the money and even Saxby’s son ,the corporate lobbyist, and his connections:
The Article in the Houston Chronicle says
“Chambliss also said he has not been influenced by any lobbyists for the Sugar Land, Texas-based company or by his son, Bo. The younger Chambliss is an in-house Washington lobbyist for the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, which also is represented by an outside firm that lobbies for Imperial Sugar. “My purpose has been to try to get the facts out,” Chambliss said. “This guy (Graham) is an agent of the company. How anybody can interpret that I’m doing something for the benefit of the company when really I’m chastising their agent is beyond me … The company’s got to stand on their own. I’m not about to defend them in any way.”
However that is countered by Graham and his attorneys as well as the other Georgia Senator Johnny Isakson.
“Hilder and others have accused Chambliss of doing the company’s bidding on Tuesday when he sharply questioned Graham at a Senate hearing. Chambliss’ questions raised eyebrows because no one aside from Imperial had publicly doubted Graham’s claims. That includes Chambliss’ fellow Georgia Republican, Johnny Isakson. The two rarely split, but Isakson says he has full faith in Graham’s account.”
Let’s follow the money for a second
This might show a little inisght as to why the questions of bias arise.
Look at Imperial Sugar’s PAC $1,000 to Saxby Chambliss this cycle- $2,000 of which was contributed by John Sheptor
John Sheptor is President and CEO of Imperial Sugar who is compensated quite handsomely.
There are several others with ties to Imperial Sugar that have contributed to the PAC Harold Mechler - CFO is a $500 Contributor to the PAC
Gaylord Coan - $1,000 contributor to the PAC is a director
(Apparently Savannah Congressman John Barrow returned some of the money he was given by Imperial and he’s not even questioning them at a Senate hearing)
Saxby Chambliss has received $21k from the Sugar industry this cycle.
Saxby Chambliss has a son Bo Chambliss who works for the Chicago Mercantile Exchange as a registered lobbyist (the quote is correct there)
Clarence “Bo” Saxby Chambliss has given $2,000 to the Chicago Mercantile PAC.
The Chicago Mercantile lobbyist works on behalf of several companies with ties to the Sugar Industry.
Googling lobbying and CME, we found one article that shows that
The Chicago Mercantile Exchange is employing the son of Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) to lobby members of his father’s congressional committee and other lawmakers on legislation that may increase trading at the exchange. Clarence Saxby “Bo” Chambliss Jr. is one of two staff lobbyists at the Merc charged with “providing information on issues that impact our industry to decision-makers in Washington,” Merc spokesman David Prosperi said Friday. Saxby Chambliss heads the Senate Agriculture Committee, which jointly oversees the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and must this year pass legislation reauthorizing the futures regulator through 2011. The CFTC’s current authority expires Sept. 30. The panel may vote as early as this month on a bill to reauthorize the CFTC, said a committee spokesman.
Now there isn’t much recusing Bo Chambliss can do with one other lobbyist unless that lobbyist is doing the heavy lifting while Bo is giving mulligans to Judge Smails
Probably not much of a stretch to say that Saxby has some questions to answer about his claim that he is not biased. We will keep searching to see if we can find more connections between Saxby and Imperial Sugar. Or we will let you know if Saxby follows suit of John Barrow and returns the PAC contributions. Conclusion: Saxby Chambliss needs to go home or get a job at some Sugar Refinery (Remember what he did to Max Cleeland) and remember Saxbuh faked a knee injury that was not examined with any modern degree of medical comp;etence and Bo chooses not to serve like so many other Republican cowards.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
I do believe all the neocon republicans like dirty ball et al have lost heart, cut and run, played surrender monkey, appeased the Democrats…Ah always knew Republicans were all talk and no action, cut and run surrender monkeys….
By Saxby W Bush
October 28, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
“When George W. Bush became president nearly eight years ago the world was largely at peace, the U.S. military was largely at rest, oil was $23 a barrel, the economy was growing at more than 3 percent, $1 was worth 116 yen, the national debt was just under $6 trillion and the federal government was running a sizable budgetary surplus. The September 11 attacks, for all they cost us as a nation, increased the world’s willingness to cooperate with us. You, by contrast, will inherit wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, tired and stretched armed forces, a global struggle with terrorism, oil that has ranged as high as $150 a barrel, a weaker dollar (now worth 95 yen), substantial anti-American sentiment, a federal budget deficit that could reach $1 trillion in your first year, a ballooning national debt of some $10 trillion and a global economic slowdown that will increase instability in numerous countries.
By joe the plumber
October 28, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this
Crooks: You need someone to pull the panties out of your crotch?
By Captain Freedom
October 28, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
THE Captain first off awards a Captain Kudo to Pofo (or Andy or whoever it was under the vulgar ID) for the first spot-on mimicry of THE Captain to yet appear on this board. Well done, sir, indeed. THE Captain for a moment felt He was reading Himself. Spine tingling and loin girding to say the least. THE Captain encourages other pretenders to give it a go, but only if you have the chops to deliver. There is nothing worse that a watered down Captain.
THE Captain would return the favor and deliver a reciprocal mimicry, yet whoever it was seems to not have a developed and distinct style of his/her own. Someday, though. Keep trying.
As to the current state of affairs, well THE Captain is in deep despair as he finds Our Nation awash in Socialist candidates for the nation’s highest office. Everyone knows that the Islamodemocrats have nominated a Socialisterroriscarynegrowithaknife. That’s as plain as the nose on Lieberman’s face, the nose that Holy Joe is trying to wedge into a new and different poop chute in the waning days of the campaign.
But no, THE Captain speaks of the GOP nominee for President, Sarah Plain and Tall (because really, St John is just a short term place holder). Here is a revealing quote from Our Sarah:
A few weeks before she was nominated for Vice-President, she told a visiting journalist—Philip Gourevitch, of this magazine—that “we’re set up, unlike other states in the union, where it’s collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs.”
Collective. Share the wealth. Gadzooks, there is a Comsympsocialista hiding under every rock. Somehow, Comrade Obamandingo used his secret time machine to travel back and establish a Manchurian candidate scenario wherein even if he loses the election, Sarah Palin will ascend and upon the turn of a certain playing card will name him Strapping Buck in Chief, turning Our Nation over to his Blackazoid agenda, complete with funky music soundtrack. To think otherwise is to ignore obvious reality.
THE Captain sheds a tear for our decaying Republic and recommends everyone stock up on guns, ammo, juice boxes, cheetos, and a substantial collection of pornographic DVDs. It may be the only thing that gets you through the coming Stalinist purge.
By Emily
October 28, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
I will join in on the GET RID OF SAXBY movement. Saxby is nothing but a good ole’boy repug of the worst kind. He’s done NOTHING for us Georgians since he’s been in the Senate. And his ads are disgraceful. VOTE FOR JIM MARTIN!
By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
October 28, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
Chambliss is shameless and corrupt. The earlier post is correct; Chambliss has received large campaign donations from the sugar industry and specifically Imperial Sugar. During the senate hearing, he falsely accused the whistleblower of being the one who was responsible for the conditions that led to the tragic explosion. But this is Chambliss’ pattern. Consider the tragedy of Katrina. Afterward, he voted against all legislation that would have helped schools and individuals. He was opposed to investigations of the government’s response to the hurricane. Instead, he voted for tax breaks for businesses. Also, consider his response to the financial markets plunge. There are a large and growing number of foreclosures taking place in Georgia. There are hundreds of thousands of mortgages that are 60 days past due. Instead of trying to figure a responsible way to reduce the number of foreclosures, he hands $700 billion to the former CEO of Goldman Sachs. For those of you who do not know, Goldman Sachs was one of the biggest players in sub prime lending and derivative trading. Chambliss is a corporate lackey.
By JH54
October 28, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
Some things are getting harder and harder to swallow lately. That walking, breathing joke known as Al Franken is a real threat to the incumbent in MN. This is the walking, breathing left wing liberal joke who made fun of the MN incumbent renting out a room in an apartment and only paying for half a kitchen. Yes, that same left wing liberal joke who was deep into six figures in arrears in income taxes. The stupidity of this nation and what it is apparently becoming is truly mind boggling. The only hope is for a revolt of US citizens who in four years realize the big time, massive mistake they made in 2008.
Now we have this creme de le creme from the socialist liberal left. Remember all their whining and belly aching over lost 401k and pension funds in the Bush economy? Well, don’t attempt to swallow anything when you read this from the biggest bunch of hypocritical fascist left wing liberal thieves this nation has ever seen:
A wide range of sweeping changes to the 401(k) system were proposed Tuesday at a hearing on how the market crisis has devastated retirement savings plans.
Chief among them was eliminating $80 billion in tax savings for higher-income people enrolled in 401(k) retirement savings plans.
This was suggested by the chairman of the House Committee on Education and Labor.
“With respect to the 401(k), it appears to be a plan that is not really well-devised for the changes in the market,” Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., said.
“We’ve invested $80 billion into subsidizing this activity,” he said, referring to tax breaks allowed for 401(k) contributions and savings.
With savings rates going down, “what do we have to start to think about in Congress of whether or not we want to continue and invest that $80 billion for a policy that is not generating what we … say it should?” Mr. Miller said.
Congress should let workers trade their 401(k) assets for guaranteed retirement accounts made up of government bonds, suggested Teresa Ghilarducci, an economics professor at The New School for Social Research in New York.
Please note the non-mention of the definition of “higher income” there. The Obamanation started out mentioning $250,000 as the bar for raising taxes, then it was lowered to $200,000 and then to $150,000 by Biden in recent comments - that $150,000 figure by Biden being pulled out after the verbal lashing by that reporter bringing up Marxist policies - which he failed to answer and laughed it off.
If you want to be a true American patriot, keep the hands of these socialist, power, and control hungry modern Democrat liberals out of your hard earned money. Do your homework and find tax shelters and move your money overseas or wherever it is safe legally, because the laws are going to change next year when these people get full control of government. Don’t say you weren’t warned. Let these fools and the fools that voted for them know that there is not enough money in the American top 10% or even 25% to run a socialist Utopian liberal government that they are drooling over and already making plans for.
By A different Joe
October 28, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
Crooks, I think the Repubs should replace the elephant with the Tin Man. Makes sense, cold, calculating, logical, heartless.
The dems could be the Scarecrow. Passion, emotion, not too bright.
Here the analogy breaks down a little…
Libertarians as the lion looking for courage in the big, bad world of the two major parties.
Green party the witch because, well, she’s green. McKinney is not really evil though, just insane.
By Chad Harris
October 28, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
Talk about fair weather friends, character, and backbone, the Republicans have turned into complete spineles jellyfish wimps as they disintegrate.
If you go to the RNC website, all references to McPalin have been scrubbed except a small link to their store and we’re a week to the election! No mention of McPalin!!!!! The rats have jumped ship.
The Financial Times a Wooten Dick Williams Perry McGuire Buckhead Club paper has endorsed Obama.
Meanwhile John McCain faces crminal indictment for not declaring his Las Vegas gambling winnings. If Bush doesn’t pardon him, and I’ve predicted he will, Stevens can sweep the BOP hospital floor with McCain/McBush.
McCain, as naive about the law as Wooten stated that Stevens was convicted of insider trading (whacko) but Stevens was convicted of not declaring gifts on the Senate Financial Disclosure forms.
That’d be Title 18 § 1001(a)(1) and (c)(1) and (2).
To date, no gambling winnings have been declared on McCain’s financial disclosure forms. Apparently the Wootinistas think breaking the law 1001(a)(1) and (c)(1) and (2).
Apparently, the Wootinistas see nothing wrong with law breaking when their aristocracy are the ones who break it.
Palin has failed to declare per diems to the tune of 17 grand on her taxes as well.
Why are McCain and Palin committing the crimes Stevens was just convicted of????
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
Byte me Joe the Plumber: Ah got a monkey wrench with your name on it, you stinking tax cheat, dead beat, skin head….
By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
October 28, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
Georgia’s senior senator is still dogged for his support of a controversial immigration bill that would have opened the door to citizenship for millions of illegal aliens. And who doesn’t remember him posing for photos with liberal icon Ted Kennedy to show his support for the bill? Of course, he later backed away from the measure, but the damage was done. His credibility never would be the same among the anti-immigration crowd.
Then there’s Chambliss’ son, who has been a lobbyist for the commodities trading industry at a time when Dad happened to be chairman or ranking member of the Senate Agriculture Committee - the committee with jurisdiction over commodities trading.
Chambliss is one of the few statewide elected officials in America who still is willingly joined at the hip to President Bush. Even in Georgia, Bush now has hit bottom in his approval rating.
By joe the plumber
October 28, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
Bend over Crooks.
I got a roto-rooter with your name on it.
Trust me, you’ll feel much better.
By getalife
October 28, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Max posted at the HP
Obama should hire him to take care of our Veterans.
McCain’s adviser calls Palin a whack job but we already knew that.
Civil war in the gop after this lanslide loss.
By Saxby The Socialist
October 28, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this
McCain and Palin: Stevens must go
Last night, Sarah Palin nudged onetime pal Ted Stevens toward the exit — today John McCain booted him out the door.
Which will raise the inevitable question: Are they on the same page, Ted-wise?
UPDATE: OK, they’re on the same page. Palin, who’s with McCain in Hershey, Pa., today, is now calling for Stevens to quit, CNBC reports.
McCain’s statement:
“Yesterday, Sen. Ted Stevens was found guilty of corruption. It is a sign of the health of our democracy that the people continue to hold their representatives to account for improper or illegal conduct, but this verdict is also a sign of the corruption and insider-dealing that has become so pervasive in our nation’s capital.
“It is clear that Sen. Stevens has broken his trust with the people and that he should now step down. I hope that my colleagues in the Senate will be spurred by these events to redouble their efforts to end this kind of corruption once and for all.”
Last night, in a statement issued before Stevens vowed to keep running, Palin stopped short of calling on Stevens to step aside, asking the 84-year-old Stevens to “do what’s right for the people of Alaska.”
Speaking earlier on MSNBC, a McCain/Palin spokesman emphasized their uni-ticket reponse: “They’ve been quite clear in their contempt for his behavior. I don’t expect that they would cast their ballot for Ted Stevens if they were Alaska voters.”
By Captain Freedom
October 28, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
THE Captain is relieved to note that the official GOP / RNC website has recognized the traitors in their midst and has scrubbed its home page of all reference to the Socialist Palin/McCain ticket.
Perhaps now We can start the long, interminably slow process of remaking the GOP in God’s image and likeness.
By hotlanta
October 28, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
I also wanna see the headlines that says 2 WHITE MEN were attempting to commit a TERRORIST ACT against Obama.
By hotlanta
October 28, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
I also wanna see the headlines that says 2 WHITE MEN were attempting to commit a TERRORIST ACT against Obama.
By Pierce Randall
October 28, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this
“It’s a pledge I wouldn’t sign on a dare, not because I’d be inclined to misleading utterances but because liberals and conservatives tend to see the world differently. Self-styled groups have biases that aren’t evident. What a group of conservatives and what a group of liberals think is misleading are often entirely different.”
That sounds like smarmy ethical relativism to me. Could it be Wooten’s new postmodern conservatism?
By Curious Observer
October 28, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
Were those two Tennessee rednecks planning to carve a reverse-image B into Obama’s cheek before they carried out the assassination? I can’t find very much at all about the plot. The world wonders.
By Shrugging Atlas
October 28, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
All I know is that when Jim advocates a certain view, candidate or judge I will run the other way.
By Chad Harris
October 28, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
Chambliss is a Georgian word that means chickensh*t.
Saxby faked a knee injury because spineless whimp that he is, he was afraid to leave mommy’s lap and fight in Nam.
Martin served and Clelland served.
Bo Chambliss a wimp chicken off the ole block is going nowhere near Iraq or anyother place where chicken butt daddy wants to cheer on the troops from the sidelines and thinks it’s fine for other people’s kids to get killed in a worthless war wasting their lives.
Saxbutt make your medical records available that squirmed out of Nam. Show your fake knee injury.
By @@
October 28, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this
Dangit Jim, I coulda used this info before I voted. Not to worry though, when I don’t know for what I’m voting, I simply don’t vote! unlike the ACORN registrants who Howard Stern revealed would vote for OBlahMa because he (The One) supports John McCain’s policies on taxes and the war in Iraq????
Moving up the judicial ladder, I read OBlahMa’s criteria for those justices he would appoint to the SC:
We need somebody who’s got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it’s like to be a young teenage mom. The empathy to understand what it’s like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that’s the criteria by which I’m going to be selecting my judges
Seein’s how I’m none of the above, I can assume that equal consideration is not something I can expect under an OBlahMa Supreme Court? He goes on to say:
“If we can find people who have life experience and they understand what it means to be on the outside, what it means to have the system not work for them, that’s the kind of person I want on the Supreme Court.
As much as it irritates the leftists, here……dare I mention the unborn, yet to be born, those dreaded little zygotes? They’ve had no “life” experiences and they certainly don’t know what it means to be on the outside. Granted……they don’t know what it’s like to have a system that works for them so maybe OBlahMa’s choices offer them HOPE?
He’s already answered that question on numerous occasions. His answer to the unborn is NO!!!! you, the most innocent and vulnerable, are not entitled to have someone speak on your behalf.
So sayeth The Lord on High-fives!
By Emily
October 28, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
I will join in on the GET RID OF SAXBY movement. Saxby is nothing but a good ole’boy repug of the worst kind. He’s done NOTHING for us Georgians since he’s been in the Senate. And his ads are disgraceful. VOTE FOR JIM MARTIN!
By ron
October 28, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
Sally——-It’s considered quite prudent to miss the first 10% of the upswing in the market after a steep fall such as this one.You buy.I’ll hold.
By Peter
October 28, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
Gotta love the DOUBLE Talk from McCain………Asking Ted Stevens to resign…….
“It is clear that Sen. Stevens has broken his trust with the people and that he should now step down. I hope that my colleagues in the Senate will be spurred by these events to redouble their efforts to end this kind of corruption once and for all.”
Funny Palin basically did the SAME THING……….SO how about PALIN Resigning ?
No there is always double talk with the Republican’s…….it is OK for Palin to be found GUILTY……but she can stay !
White Republican man speaks with Forked tongue !
Vote Obama….throw all the lying bums out !
By @@
October 28, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
And yet Peter…..
WASHINGTON — Colin Powell, the retired Army general and former secretary of state, characterized Sen. Ted Stevens in court Friday as a “trusted individual” and a man with a “sterling” reputation.
“He was someone whose word you could rely on,” said Powell, who self-deprecatingly described himself as the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff who retired and then “dabbled a bit in diplomacy.”
Stevens, on trial for lying about gifts on financial disclosure forms, has the right during the defense portion of the trial to ask character witnesses to speak on behalf of his “truthfulness and veracity.” The first such character witness, Sen. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, spoke Thursday. Three others are set to testify on Stevens’ behalf but the highest-profile witness, by far, will be Powell.
The former secretary of state said he had known Stevens for 25 years, mostly in the senator’s role as the top defense appropriator on the Senate Appropriations Committee. In Stevens, “I had a guy who would tell me when I was off base, he would tell me when I had no clothes on, figuratively, that is, and would tell me when I was right and go for it,” Powell said. “He’s a guy who, as we said in the infantry, we would take on a long patrol.”
if Colin Powell was wrong about Stevens character, then he was likely wrong about OBlahMa’s character too.
By WTF?
October 28, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
An Obama presidency would be an economic disaster. His proposal to raise the minimum wage to $9.95 by the year 2011 is economic suicide. Job losses and increased prices will be the result of his wrong-headed policies. KEEP THE MORON AWAY FROM THE OVAL OFFICE.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Ok Folks, this is what happened to your 401 k’s and 403 b’s ——
Once upon a time, in a village, a man appeared and announced to the villagers that he would buy monkeys for $10 each.
The villagers, seeing that there were many monkeys around, went out to the forest and started catching them. The man bought thousands at $10 and, as supply started to diminish, the villagers stopped their effort.
He further announced that he would now buy at $20 for a monkey.This renewed the efforts of the villagers and they started catching monkeys again. Soon the supply diminished even further and people started going back to their farms.
The offer increased to $25 each, and the supply of monkeys became so small that it was an effort to even find a monkey, let alone catch it!
The man now announced that he would buy monkeys at $50! However, since he had to go to the city on some business, his assistant would now buy on behalf of him.
In the absence of the man, the assistant told the villagers. “Look at all these monkeys in the big cage that the man has collected. I will sell them to you at $35, and when the man returns from the city, you can sell them to him for $50 each. “The villagers rounded up all their savings and bought all the monkeys.
They never saw the man nor his assistant again, only monkeys everywhere!
Now you have a better understanding of how Wall Street works.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Yeah Saxby, you crook, bend over, me and joe the plumber are gonna give you an enema ta see if we can flush the evil out of you….now hold still….Oh yeah, ah got a letter from Sarah Palin in the mail today, asking fer money….it had a prepaid envelope with it, so ah wrote on the back of the letter “STFU Evita” and mailed it right back to the GOP. That makes six such letter ah have returned at their expense…he he he…even though the letter pleads with me to use my own stamp ta save the thieves a little postage…he he he….keep em coming, LOSERS….ah just luv costing the gop money….since their elephant mascot died so sudden like, ah hear they have adopted the cockroach as their new symbol and mascot….really more of a role model…
By Obama the uniter!!?!!
October 28, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
Interestingly, where Europe accused the United States of being too hawkish under George W. Bush, it now fears that an Obama administration will act just as unilateral as Bush’s, and will be too dovish. European leaders are sending out very clear warning signals about what they think of Obama and his foreign policy views, which is being ignored by most American media.
“Obama often presents himself as a man who will restore America’s alliance with Europe. When one takes a closer look at his foreign policy plans, however, it becomes clear that Obama will do no such thing. Instead, he seems determined to pursue a highly ideological foreign policy which will put him on collision course with Europe. European politicians and columnists understand this, perhaps it is time for Americans who favor improving the Europe-U.S. relationship to pay attention to them.”
By Tim
October 28, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
I agree with the comments in reference to Saxby. His office called the other day and asked if I would attend a function of his that was being held in Douglasville. I reminded his staffer that for the last five years I have invited the Senator to attend our annual golf tournament honoring a Federal Agent killed in the line of duty in Atlanta. He wasn’t asked to stay all day, just say a few kind words and shake some hands. The Senator always seemed to have a conflict. Money may not buy votes but it does buy access. Saxby just needs to join a Washington agricultural lobbying firm and move on with his life.
By BCD12409
October 28, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
Dems Consider Taxing 401(k)s
“Actually there are two plans, said Prof. Ghilarducci, “a short-term one and a long-term one. As part of the bailout, I would include a provision for individuals to be able to swap their 401(k)s at its August 2008 value for special issue government bonds paying 3 percent plus inflation.”
When asked about the terms of the bonds, which she calls “Guaranteed Retirement Accounts” Prof. Ghilarducci remarked that no one ever asked that question. After thinking about it, she said the terms would be the social security eligibility date of the owner.
“The maturity dates would then vary,” she said.
Her long-term plan is to rethink the concept of 401(k)s and eliminate the tax deductibility of contributions to them. For example, she said, a person making $40,000 per year who contributes 5 percent of their income to a 401(k) currently receives a tax savings of $560.
For a person making $60,000, who contributes 5 percent of their income to a 401(k), they would have a tax savings of $900.
She is proposing that the tax subsidy is eliminated completely. In its place everyone gets a $600 federal income tax credit. This would benefit those who make less.
But in the case of the aforementioned example, while people making $40,000 a year would see a net gain; people earning $60,000 per year would experience a net loss.
A tax increase by Democrats on those making $60,000 per year would not be in line with the their presidential nominee U.S. Sen. Barack Obama’s pledge to only increase taxes on those making $250,000 per year.
By Dusty
October 28, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
Well, I ‘m back and Repubs R Crooks has gone to telling monkey stories since he knows all about monkeys because he is a…..(Well, if bloggers can call the President of the USA a “monkey” why can’t bloggers be called …..?????) Anyway, I’ll try to be a nice conservative as conservatives are ALWAYS nice.
Hey, did you see the story about a guy who has hung an effigy of Sarah Palin from his chimney huh huh huh?? OOps! I promised to be nice..OK..I’ll try again.
I believe that AJC had an editorial board meeting yeterday. They declared all out war on McCain and locked Jim Wooten outside the door. Then they promised popcorn and free wrestling tickets to whomever got the most liberal hate/cha posts. Yep, even Woman to Womman dived in with nice little feminine political steps. Bookman had to be revived from his frencied efforts. Luckovich swallowed his pen in the excitement complaining he did not have a blog. Oh, it’s war time at the AJC. But Jim may get the popcorn after all since he is the bestest journalist of them all (and liberals can’t bear to see his success). So there, all you fuss budgets including the sobbing chief budgie Cappie Freedom. Go fly a kite or something..
But, cheers to Ron. I like your choices of Poetry. I like the old ones, even the Rubiyat which is so easy to quote A loaf of bread, a jug of wine..and thou…and so forth. More fun!!
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
ah yes my fat little dusty, the ajc is indeed doomed, and woodenhead is definatly gonna be one of the first to go, seeing as how has never, ever won a pulitzer, yet one of THOSE people has…..hasn’t even come close, something ta do with poor spelling or grammer or bad breath, who kin remember back all those decades of the poor balding little fellow just typing his heart out in support of lying, thieving Repukes. The pulitzer unfairly awarded to one of THOSE people has been the topic of many a klan meetin’ in old woodie’s basement, but tragically the minutes of those meetings have now been shredded in an effort to destory evidence should the skin head cell crack and start naming names…oh, I am being a security risk…gotta go, I see skin heads….imho
By Republicans R Crooks
October 28, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this
Ah think Sista Dusty is hitting the bottle again, trying real hard to hide from the reality of her whole life and philosophy being repudiated by the American Voting Public…The hand writting is on the wall for a landslide on 11/4/8….so hiding in her bottle of gin is Dusty’s solution….bottoms up, hag…
By Palin the Terrorist
October 28, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
Vigilante pals of Palin’s not so distant past by Russ Bellant October 28, 2008
In the last weeks of their struggling national campaign, the McCain-Palin ticket and the Republican National Committee have chosen to attack Barack Obama for his rare and insignificant contact with Bill Ayres, a former Weather Underground member charged but not convicted of bombing federal targets at the height of opposition to the Vietnam War four decades ago.
Palin has led the charge that Obama “pals around” with terrorists, based solely on the very limited contact he had with Ayres decades after his Weather Underground days. Some of that contact is due to education projects funded by Walter Annenberg, who is also donating to the McCain campaign. Annenberg has not been accused of funding terrorism by McCain or Palin.
But the most compelling hypocrisy of the “terrorism” issue is Palin’s own contemporary associations with fringe groups more committed to themes of antigovernment violence. A number of reports have noted, for instance, Palin’s association with the Alaska Independence Party (AIP), a group that is trying to get Alaska to secede from the United States. Largely unreported is the deeper extremism of the AIP and its national party organization, the Constitution Party. The Ayers story is a distraction from the real and ongoing relationships that Sarah Palin has with armed rightists, a story she invites with her vacuous allegations on “terrorism.”
The Constitution Party, formerly known as the U.S. Taxpayers Party (USTP), was founded in 1992 as an electoral vehicle for the growing vigilante movements that called themselves militias, as well as racists and violent antiabortion militants.
The origins of the national party go back to the American Independent Party of 1968, which was a joint effort of the John Birch Society and the Ku Klux Klan to run George Wallace for president. Various carryover elements, including the Birchers, led to the creation of the Constitution Party.
After the party was formed, a 1994 research report by Planned Parenthood, which was tracking antiabortion violence, characterized the group as “the new political home to a growing and unusual convergence of militant antiabortion leaders, elements of the violent and racist right, members of the John Birch Society and Far Right politicians.”
Palin first attended an AIP event in 1994, according to ABC News interviews with party officials. By that time the theocratic and paramilitary elements of the party were manifest. An examination of who was part of the party at the time that she first made contact with the AIP and concurrent with her husband’s joining the AIP, you can see the nature of the movement that she had comfort with:
• At a Wisconsin party convention in 1994, Rev. Matthew Trewhella called for the formation of church-based “armed militias” to fight abortion and bragged about training his 16 month old son on the identification of his trigger finger, according to a Planned Parenthood report on potentially violent antiabortion groups. Trewhella, a member of the national committee of the Constitution Party, also sold manuals on behalf of his Party titled Principles Justifying the Arming and Organizing of a Militia on methods of organizing and training “militias” and conducting house assaults. He recommended that that party members “buy each of your children an SKS rifle and 500 rounds of ammunition.” Trewhella also publically cosigned a statement saying that killing abortion doctors was morally justifiable.
• Florida party head and National executive committee member Jeffrey Baker in 1994 also endorsed the “justifiable homicide” of any doctors who performed abortions, or their associates.
• Organizer Michael Bray had been convicted in 1985 and served four years in prison for bombing 10 clinics. He later wrote A Time To Kill, advocating the killing of doctors who perform abortions. He was characterized as the “father of violence” in Wrath of Angels, a book about antiabortion violence. Prior to this convention, a number of doctors who perform abortions had been wounded or killed and about 200 clinics had been bombed, torched or vandalized. The endorsement of these murders was not merely a symbolic statement.
• Byron Dale, a 1994 convention speaker and workshop leader, had been a “confidant” of Gordon Kahl of the Posse Commitatus, a racist and anti-Semitic paramilitary group. Kahl killed two U.S. marshals in South Dakota before dying in a shootout. Dale said that he would kill any feds that tried to encroach on him.
• Randall Terry, who led the Operation Rescue blockades of abortion clinics, ran for Congress on the US Taxpayers Party ticket. He called for Christians to “take up the sword” and to “overthrow the tyrannical regime that oppresses them” so that they can install a theocratic regime based on “Biblical law.” Other OR leaders involved with arrests for antiabortion actions were also Party leaders and candidates, according to the Planned Parenthood report.
• Prior to founding the Constitution Party, Howard Phillips, was the foremost American organizing support for the apartheid regime of South Africa and its African surrogates in the 1980’s. He organized trips to South Africa for American sympathizers to meet the top political, intelligence and military leaders of the apartheid regime, which was the only surviving post World War II nazi party still holding power. Phillips and his allies supported Renamo, which the Ronald Reagan’s State Department had condemned for having murdered over 100,000 civilians in Mozambique, as well as Unita, which was conducting killings in Angola. This writer attended one of his private organizing meetings where he marshaled his decades of political networking experience to push the Reagan State Department and the Congress to support the slave state of South Africa. Phillips was the 1992 and 1996 presidential candidate for his Party.
• Joining the formation of the Party and holding a seat on the national executive committee in 1994 was William K. Shearer of Lemon Grove, California. Shearer took his position after the folding of the Populist Party, a group formed by Willis Carto and his Liberty Lobby. Most notorious for creating the-holocaust-didn’t happen propaganda and maintaining links to white supremacist groups, the Liberty Lobby and the Populist Party were condemned by the Anti Defamation League and the Atlanta-based Center for Democratic Renewal for what the latter group called “an amalgamation of neo-Nazis, skinheads, former Klansmen and other extremists who banded together.”
In 1989 this writer attended a Populist Party meeting in Chicago chaired by Shearer where the featured speaker was David Duke. Security was provided by Art Jones, Chicago’s foremost uniformed Nazi, who choked a TV news reporter with his necktie for critically questioning Duke at the meeting. Jones was also a regular participant in Aryans Nation gatherings when they were planning insurrectionist activities, at least two of which were witnessed by this writer. It is not clear why Shearer picked Jones to provide security or why Phillips selected Shearer for national leadership of the new Party.
During and after this period Sarah Palin maintained friendly relations with the Alaska branch of the Constitution Party for many years, according to many news reports. She attended their convention again in 2000 and in 2006 sought their support for her run for governor. In June 2008 she sent them a video wishing them “good luck on a successful and inspiring convention, keep up the good work and God bless you.”
Her husband Todd joined the party during the period of militancy in 1995 and changed his voter registration in 2002 to “undeclared.”
A recent review of the websites of the AIP and its parent Constitution Party demonstrates that these groups are still the home of the violence-inclined far right. The national platform, for instance, pledges to “support and encourage unorganized militia at the county and community level.”
Its origins in the southern racist elements is reflected in the group’s calls for repealing “hate crime legislation,” the Voting Rights Act (which ended the disenfranchisement of millions of voters in the deep South) and, most tellingly, supports the claim that states ( not just Alaska ) can secede from the United States at any time. The plank on secession states that “each state’s membership in the Union is voluntary.”
The well-reported fact that the AIP advocates secession from the United States is also supplemented by the group’s constitution, which requires playing only the Alaska Anthem, not the national anthem. This could not be lost on Palin, who has attended at least three AIP conventions and continues to praise them.
Another element of extremism in the Constitution Party is its assertion that the U.S. should be governed by “Biblical law” and places as their first policy plank a complete prohibition on all abortions, regardless of the circumstances. They also call for the repeal of the federal law that restricts antiabortion militants from physically disrupting clinics where abortions are performed.
The influence for these views comes from the Christian Reconstructionist movement founded by the late R.J. Rushdoony, a Constitution Party cofounder. The conservative evangelical magazine Christianity Today in 1987 published a critical article about Reconstructionist goals to assert Old Testament law over society in which “homosexuals, adulterers, blasphemers, astrologers and others will be executed.” The formation of so called militias ( read: vigilante groups ) as the armed forces of Reconstructionism is the core of what the Constitution Party is about.
Reporters for Salon.com, funded by the Nation Institute for Investigative Journalism, found that Palin had local ties to this extremist movement. They reported that in Palin’s successful campaign for mayor of Wasilla, that Mark Chryson, a long time state leader of the AIP, and Steve Stoll, a leader of the John Birch Society, played influential roles. “During the 1990’s, when Chryson directed the AIP, he and another radical rightwinger, Steve Stoll, played a quiet but pivotal role in electing Palin as mayor of Wasilla and shaping her agenda afterward. Both Stoll and Chryson not only contributed to Palin’s campaign financially, they played a major behind-the-scenes roles in the Palin camp before, during and after her victory.”
Chryson told Salon that he stays in touch with secessionist groups in 30 states. He said that he and Palin worked to together to alter the state constitution “to better facilitate the formation of antigovernment militias.” Chryson added that “every time I showed up her door was always open. And that policy continued when she was governor.”
Palin also tried to install Stoll in a vacant city council seat when she was mayor, even though he was well known in the area as “Black Helicopter Steve,” according to the Salon.com report, apparently due to his militia-like conspiracy theories.
When she was city council member, Palin posed for what appears to be her official photograph with a John Birch Society publication. The JBS is the ideological core of the so-called militia groups and coined the phrase that “the US is a republic, not a democracy” and opposed the public election of US senators, instead having them appointed by state legislatures, a view reflected in the Constitution Party platform. The Birchers became notorious years ago for characterizing the U.S. as partially communist and placed presidents such as Dwight Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon as complicit in the “Communist conspiracy.”
Another arena in which militant talk is associated with prospectively violent results is in Palin’s church life. Since becoming Governor, she has attended the Juneau Christian Church, which has affiliated itself with leaders of the “Toronto Blessing.” The Toronto Blessing an ultracharismatic practice centered on “Holy Laughter” (otherwise known as hysterical laughter) which includes howling, barking like dogs, screaming, spasmodic jerking and rolling on floors as part of, even the substance of, “church” services. This has been reported on, taped and criticized by traditional, conservative evangelical ministries but it has spread across North America.
This may sound harmless, but it binds members together in perceived antidemonic “power evangelism” to turn their cities into citadels for the righteous. One of those leaders, Rodney Howard Browne, exhorted congregants to great applause when he claimed that their movement is “going to shake this nation to its very foundations, to its very core…its going to shake America like a tsunami” and told them that “if it means death, so be it.”
In a video posted by Bruce Wilson on the website of Talk To Action, Browne is described as closely linked to Palin’s Juneau church and its minister. They are identified as part of a movement that seeks to “restructure the churches of America to do battle with evil prior to the return of Jesus. They are also preparing a generation of youth to serve as “Joel’s Army” and to attack the “demonic strongholds” of America.” Joel’s Army refers to a violent end time army in the Old Testament book of Joel. Wilson previously published videos that caused John McCain to drop his affiliation with controversial ministers John Hagee and Rod Parsley.
It is unclear what Palin believes regarding the themes of violence of most the extreme elements of the groups that she has associated with for many years. But if she is going to use guilt by association methods based on activities that occurred decades ago, she has some more recent associations of her own to explain. If she believes her frequents assertions that the US is a “great nation,” then why does she associate with secessionists that try to break it up? If she opposes domestic violence for political ends, how can she be associated with a group with leaders that have embraced ‘justifiable homicide”? It is disturbing that she declined to condemn the violence and murder against abortion providers in the NBC interview with Brian Williams, even though he asked her twice about that matter.
There is no statewide elected leader, either as governor or U.S. Senator, that has more extreme right wing, violence-prone associations that Sarah Palin. John McCain has asked us to endorse her, but even if the ticket fails this time, he has elevated her to a contending position for the 2012, energizing and empowering the extreme right in the process. No wonder that even some informed elements of the Republican Party are abandoning him.
By How low can you go???
October 28, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this
Sarah Palin and the new Apostolic reformation by Russ Bellant October 28, 2008
Sarah Palin has been associated all her adult life with churches and political groups that are way out of the theological and political mainstream. Her extreme policy views as Governor reflect this background and raise questions about what kind of vice president John McCain seeks to have voters endorse.
It has been widely reported that McCain barely knew Palin and his team never fully evaluated her to determine her fitness to be vice president.
A recent report in The Anchorage Daily News stated that evangelist Franklin Graham made the Palin connection to McCain, not Republican professionals. Graham, the once-estranged son of Billy Graham, has strong ties to the various strands of the religious rightwing. He met with McCain on June 30 at his headquarters in Boone, North Carolina, after which Graham issued a statement praising McCain’s “personal faith” and prayed for “God’s will to be done in this upcoming election.”
The Daily News concluded that “subsequent events suggest that the price of support for McCain by the fundamentalist Christian leadership would be a vice presidential candidate of their liking. Governor Palin was a logical choice for Franklin Graham, whose ties to Alaska include a palatial, by Alaska bush standards, second home in Port Alsworth, a community that has served as a retreat for Christian fundamentalist leaders.”
Graham has been the keynote speaker at Palin’s annual prayer breakfasts for the last two years. When she fired the Public Safety Director over what is being investigated as a family matter, few noticed that she hired a local police chief, Chuck Kopp, who was “a rising star in Alaska’s Christian conservative movement,” according to the Daily News. He was a frequent speaker at religious and “patriotic” gatherings, but perhaps more significantly he was a director of a Bible training camp in Port Alsworth primarily funded by Graham.
Those and other ties give credence to Graham’s support for Palin. When her nomination was ratified at the Republican convention, Graham called to congratulate her through the cell phone of Rev. Jerry Prevo, a Republican delegate who is considered the leader of Alaska’s evangelical movement, according to the Washington Post. He is also on the board of directors of Graham’s charity, Samaritan’s Purse.
A recent report in the New Yorker stated that conservative writers around the National Review and the Weekly Standard had met with Palin in 2007 and some had advocated for her.
The Nation reported that she had been vetted by the secretive Council for National Policy just before the convention, but that meeting may have been more of a ratification of the McCain selection. The Council is composed of several hundred of the foremost leaders and funders of the ultraconservative right wing, including billionaires from the Amway families, the Prince families ( the Blackwater mercenary operations in Iraq ), as well as Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Phyllis Schlafly and the late Jerry Falwell.
While McCain may have trusted Graham to help him out of the political decline he was experiencing at the time he named Palin as his vice presidential pick, he would have benefited by having a thorough review of her character before he took the plunge with her name.
McCain would have found that she supported Ron Paul, not himself, in the Republican primaries; that she tried to ban books not to her liking; that her amateurish land deals ( building on land that the city did not own ) put Wasilla in deep debt; she also tried to fire people that disagreed with her or crossed her family. He would have found that she was active in churches that are part of a movement that excoriates major Christian denominations while building a movement to take dominion over society. He would have found a Governor who flirts in a fringe rightwing pro militia political party that wants Alaska to secede from the United States.
Until 2002, Palin was a member of the Wasilla Assembly of God. While the name suggests a church of a conservative Pentecostal denomination, it was and is more than that. The background of this and other Palin churches needs more than a thirty second word bite to explain, which is why so little has been written about it.
Palin, since her ascension to Governor in 2006, has been attending the Juneau Christian Center in the state capitol, as well as two nondenominational churches, Wasilla Bible Church and Church on the Rock. All of these churches are in the New Apostolic Reformation ( NAR ), a movement that seeks to sweep away established Christianity, take the reins of governments and purge evil as they see it from the world. These views shape the outlook of their congregants, including those of Sarah Palin.
Once a marginal and condemned campaign, NAR’s foremost leader, C. Peter Wagner, estimates his movement to now have as many churches as the Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S. They have hundreds of millions of dollars, mass communications networks, political infrastructure and many youth ministries at their disposal.
Origins of movements are always an arbitrary judgment, but many trace this phenomenon to the Latter Rain revival movement of the late 1940’s that began in Saskatchewan and spread across the continent, prophesying end times. In Detroit, the Bethesda Missionary Temple ( now Bethesda Christian Church in Sterling Heights ) became a national beacon for the movement.
Much of the movement was occurring within the Assemblies of God, a Pentecostal denomination. The Assemblies of God Superintendent at the time condemned the Latter Rain as “the reappearance of enthusiastic mysticism common in church history.” Many Assemblies churches left the denomination to grow the movement on their own.
Unbridled by no denominational accountability, they developed concepts of sinless, sainted, perfect leaders that would themselves become gods or godlike. Others saw themselves as first century apostles leading a reformation, not for the saving of souls, but for temporal power. Many evolved cultic control over members, demanding deep submission to “anointed” leaders.
Ministries were created to penetrate business, church denominations, governments and political parties. Prayer breakfasts have been held at the Pentagon that won over many generals and admirals, for instance. When Sarah Palin was campaigning for Governor, Wasilla Assembly of God held a special service to outline the need to penetrate government, business, media, education and other social sectors and then laid hands on her for winning the election.
Many recruited to the task of being placed in positions were instructed to keep their affiliations and mission secret so that the true scope of the campaign would not be known until they took power. Others went further underground, organizing cell churches to prepare for apocalyptic battle.
The Latter Rain evolved into the NAR of today with many types of self-anointed apostles and prophets. Some of them travel through Palin’s churches. They promote creationism, antigay justifications, end-times doom and building the end time army, sometimes called Joel’s army, referenced as a terrifying army in the Book of Joel.
The Wasilla Assembly of God, where Palin still comes for special events, has a three-year youth Masters Commission as an alternative to college. NAR leaders are part of the teaching program. Palin spoke at their recent graduation exercise in June, according to the New York Times. Palin has been in a prayer warrior group for 20 years, according to the Times. When she speaks on conservative Christian radio, she refers to support from “prayer warriors.”
She appointed an elder of her Wasilla Bible Church to a vacated State Representative seat in 2007. He promptly sought to outlaw late term abortions and is promoting a state mandate that “intelligent design” be taught in public schools.
The Juneau Christian Church that she attends when she is in the estate capitol is affiliated with leaders of the “Toronto Blessing,” an ultra-charismatic practice that includes “Holy Laughter” (otherwise known as hysterical laughter), howling, barking like dogs, screaming, spasmodic jerking and rolling on floors as part of, even the substance of, “church” services. This may sound harmless, but it binds members together in perceived antidemonic “power evangelism” to turn their cities into citadels for the righteous. One of these leaders exhorted the congregants to great applause when he claimed their movement is “going to shake this nation to its very foundations, to its very core…its going to shake America like a tsunami” and told them they would have to risk death for the cause.
Palin has to accept many of these beliefs to be in good stead and be upheld as she has been by these churches. Did McCain ask her whether she accepts the creationist dogma that the earth is only 6,000 years old? What does that mean for her policy of science and education? Did her militant antiabortion views cause her to force women who were rape victims in Wasilla to pay for rape kits on their own in order to prove they had been assaulted in order to reduce the number of rape claims and ensuing demands for abortion? Did Palin, as one minister reported, conduct sidewalk harassment outside of a doctor’s office because she performed abortions at the local hospital, in order to intimidate the doctor?
Finally, does she hold views on the Biblical end times that welcomes the long-prophesied war with Russia as a precursor to the Millenium? In her interview with ABC’s Charles Gibson, war with Russia seemed fine with her.
In September 2000, when she was Mayor of Wasilla, Palin asked the City Council to make Wasilla part of Bill Gothard’s City of Character program. Unbeknownst to the Council, Gothard runs secretive Christian paramilitary training camps. His practice of extreme submission of participants in his Institute of Basic Life Principles has been cited for abuse by officials in Indiana and is a source of controversy in evangelical circles. Gothard tries to use his entrée into municipalities to develop training programs in police departments, as well as have government sponsors for his indoctrination practices.
A powerful theme throughout the NAR movement is that the U.S. must become a “Christian nation,” which means the truly godly ( NAR leaders ) must rule and reign. Some have backed a small political party, the Constitution Party, ( actually the third largest political party in the U.S. ), which calls for the establishment of “Biblical law,” a term used by some party founders to advocate replacing the Constitution with Old Testament law.
With this kind of background, what does it say for McCain’s judgment, for his concern for the leadership of our country, that he would select her to be vice president of the United States, even when she stated that she was unsure what the duties of the VP were? He stated at the time that she was the most qualified person in the United States for this position. He has selected the most extreme elected official holding high office to now be one weak heartbeat from the presidency. Already some of Palin’s NAR supporters are issuing “imprecatory prayers” that God kill McCain so that Palin becomes President. They want his soul saved first, however.
The Republican machinery has responded to McCain’s choice by keeping her away from the media, sending her to safe crowds on a scripted leash. She may be the only VP candidate who does not hold a press conference and allow questions to be asked of her.
Incidentally, the Ron Paul guy that she backed against McCain in the primaries, has not returned the favor to Palin. He has endorsed the Constitution Party candidate, a Florida megachurch pastor.
And finally, John Hagee, the “spiritual advisor that McCain dumped when researcher Bruce Wilson produced videotapes of Hagee saying God used Hitler to teach Jews a lesson- well, he will be at Palin’s church in Juneau in March 2009.
By No More Chambliss
October 28, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
Targeting Senator Smear
The Nation — In 2002, Senator Saxby Chambliss of Georgia ran one of the dirtiest campaigns in recent memory, questioning the patriotism and courage of his Democratic opponent, Max Cleland, who lost two legs and an arm in Vietnam. A last-minute attack ad by Chambliss paired Cleland with pictures of Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.
Cleland’s defeat has haunted Democrats ever since, who’ve long had their eyes on ousting Chambliss. Cleland is featured in an by Chambliss’ Democratic opponent in ‘08, Jim Martin, another Vietnam vet. He’s also sent out a fundraising letter on behalf of Martin and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.
“In 2002, Saxby Chambliss won his Senate seat in the final days by putting my picture next to Osama bin Laden and lying about me,” Cleland writes. “It was despicable, but it worked. This year, we can’t let Chambliss use the same vile tactics to defeat Democratic challenger Jim Martin.”
Chambliss was expected to cruise to victory, but the latest polls from Georgia show a dead heat. Martin is expected to benefit from Barack Obama’s strong organization in the state, including a record turnout from African-American voters. With the race tightening, Cleland predicts that “disgusting lies and the dirty tricks are just around the corner.”
Indeed, Chambliss new ad against Martin resurrects the same ominous tone (and exact same music!) he used against Cleland. “Governor Fired Martin as Children Die,” reads one headline in the ad, misleadingly referring to Martin’s tenure as head of the state’s Department of Human Resources.
Responded Martin:
“For Saxby Chambliss to suggest I was insensitive to the loss of a child, well, that’s just plain offensive. I’ve spent my whole life fighting for kids, which is a lot different from what Saxby has done. While he was giving tax breaks to Wall Street, I was working to make sure every child in Georgia has health care.
“I approved this message, because the real difference in this race: Saxby Chambliss supports George Bush economics, and I think we need to make the economy work for the middle class again.”
Yet this time Chambliss’ Democratic challenger will have some outside support. Vote Vets just launched an ad (a reprise of their great ad campaign in ‘06), slamming Chambliss for voting against modern body armor for troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. The ad will run in the Ft. Benning and Ft. Stewart media markets, home to many military members and their families.
By Chad Harris
October 28, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
A moronic criteria for judges is Clarence Thomas who is much like moron Palin. Thomas has been on the bench for 17 years and asks no questions because he’s too frigging dumb to undersand the nuances of cases even though he has months to study them or get them explained by his law clerks who write all his opinions.
Palin is so frigging dumb she avoids any meaningful interviews with the exception of Fox aka Faux News who are so moronic they wouldn’t konw an issue to question her if it bit them in the butt.
Palin like Wooten, makes sweeping generalizations with no knowledge of substance to butress them with facts.
The past week, in a parody of herself, she started screaming out first names with occupations as if she were in medieval times. There was of course no substantive economic plan in moron’s head to expound on.
Keep Saaaaarhuhhhh moroncuda talking—she’s got you headed to be crushed on Nov. 4.
A big shout out to Republicans who circulated flyers in predmoninatly black sections of Virginia for people to vote on Nov. 5 (We have it covered; won’t work—we’ll get ‘em to the polls and have lawyers ready to pounce on imbeciles like Handel if they try to f**k with their votes.
The White House’s attempt to intervene in the Ohio vote is going to run into a brick wall. We are poised to take the Wooten Dick Williams Wingnuts into federal court.
It looks like Mukasey who ignored Boenner is going to tell the WH to stuff it. What can Bush do? Fire Mukasey in December—Whoaa that’s a real threat isn’t it?
If Mukasey responds to the WH we’ll pounce on it and crush it in court so bring it.
You won’t hear Wooten or AJC discussing these voting interference issues because they are way the hell over their heads.
By Dusty
October 28, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
Repubs R Crooks,4:38
Stop monkeying around!! AJC hasn’t gone anywhere except to the wrestling matches (known to you as ‘rassling.) They all decided to go as Tucker had on her brass knuckles and she said GO!(She wanted the popcorn for herself!)
But you mentioned a Pulitzer and even spelled it correctly although you forgot to capitalize. Oh well. Don’t you know that the Pulitzer is now the “kiss of death”. They only give it to the most liberal (read socialist) Democratic journalist this side of Venezuela. If you have never walked in a protest march, then you are DEFINITELY non-persona for a Pulitzer. If you have ever written the word PATRIOTIC, that, too, puts you on the NONO list.
Now, go back to your KKK meeting. Your fellow skinheads are waiting for you. You did not fool us for one minute. We know what you are up to and it aint a pretty picture!!!
By catlady
October 28, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
I am guessing that we have the next week “free” from the pro McCain stuff Mr. Wooten has been writing for months. Then next Wed we will start the belllyaching over how the Dems “stole” the election, followed by the hue and cry about how the mess has not been fixed fast enough.
MCain did NOT know Palin. He only knew her womb. Her womb that did not have an abortion in the face of a retarded child. The reason why Palin is VP candidate is because of her WOMB. That is enough to make any woman shudder.
This is a pretty sad spectacle.
And Saxby Chambliss is running one of the nastiest smear campaigns possible. I thought what he did to Cleland was bad, but the lies he is telling about Martin are worse. I hope there is a “special place” for those who lie like that for their own benefit. Turn the rascal out on his tail and let him and his bad knee and his son actually WORK for a living!
By Dusty
October 28, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
Anybody that reads that long propganda twisted halftruth piece by”How low can you go”@4:58 has sunk VERY VERY LOW. Such trash is unbelievably black journalism, black as in rotten rubbish.
It is a disgrace to journalism. Character assassination is not done by reputable people. This comes straight from the OBAMA supporters which he leads. Is this what Democrats want to bring to Washington?
By Dusty
October 28, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this
Now, Chad Harris calls Justice Clarence Thomas a moron. That’s a lib for ya!
Catlady, we know you by your poor judgment. I guess you choose Obama and Biden because of their ……?? Well, you tell us. You’ve been so instructive about women.
If Saxby Chamliss were a Democrat, you’d love him. You’re just a washed up ol’ Democrat who never steps out of line.
By Chad Harris
October 28, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this
McPalin’s campaign is now evolving from calling Saaayrrraw Moron a Diva to a Whackjob. Whackjob is more accurate.
You Wingnuts want to elevate this idiot to the future of your party? Be my guest. Go for it.
The Bush McCain Socialist parth continues to shovel billions of your tax money into BBonuses. Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Morgan Stanley, both still on track for profitable years, have set aside about $13 billion for bonuses after three quarters, down 28 percent from a year ago. Even some employees at Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., which declared the biggest bankruptcy in U.S. history last month, will get the same bonus they received a year ago.
Broken Securities Industry Still Has $20 Billion to Pay Bonuses
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aVann0.cv9Tw&refer=home
A big shoutout to the Alaska Whaling Commission who endorsed soon to be pardoned Ted Stevens who will be expelled from the Senate soon. Stevens is the fourth Senator to be federally convicted.
A big shout out to Sarah moron who will deliver her first “foreign policy Iraq” speech tomorrown. No questions allowed from reporters because that would confirm she is a moron.
Dusty did you get past the sixth grade? Were you in the generation that has thrown away reading lists? Have you read 10 books in the last 20 years of your life?
Every post of your is a 12 year old adolescent name calling diatribe instead of an intelligent set of points about an issue. Whazzup with that?
Last 10 books Dusty—you up to the challenge? Or should we make it last 3 books since you quit in grade school?
All you Wingnuts do what you can to get Palin ready for 2012—we’re chompin’ at the bit to have President Obama carve the moron up.
Can the Wingnuts spell Frankin, Hagen, Merkley, Shaheen, and Begich? They’re going to replace your Wingnut Senators in a few days. Get used to their names. That’s right Al Franken from Saturday Night Live has spent years learning the issues from the Best and Brightest. He didn’t go to North Bumf**k State like Palin; he only went to Harvard. he only teaches at Harvard.
Sayyyyrawww Whackjob says she opposes the McPalin spending freeze so she can help disabled children but wants to kill the funds that are the infrastructure of genetic research.
Stupid or moron or both of the above?
What Saaarrraw Whackjob and the Wootinistas don’t know about medicine:
Since Thomas Hunt Morgan began his research into the genetics of Drosophila melanogaster in 1903 (for which he eventually won the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 1933), the fruit fly has been one of science’s most critical and versatile animal models for our understanding of the interplay between fundamental genetics, molecular biology, the biochemistry of proteins, the function of the cell, and the development of a complex organism.
And the most dollars for airhead research came to what state? That’s right girls and boys—Alaska.
What’s fun is to watch a Wingnut like Ed Rodgers saying McCain can make up a point a day. Not on this planet. Not in his lifetime.
Tax cuts for everyone who earns less than $200,000 are coming to a country near you.
Meanwhile day by day your President Bush the moron continues the socialism and communism that pours billions into insurance companies and the Big 3 who are in demise because of terrible business models.
s the Haters, Wooten’s Party, the Right Wingnuts find that there aren’t enough white bigots in Pennysyvlania, Ohio, and Virginia to come close to winning, and as the Electoral Votes stand at about 284 for Obama and one hundred sumpin’ sumpin’ for Senile and Moron, they have discovered the isms that actually describe themselves and their bailouts.
By @@
October 28, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this
Her womb that did not have an abortion in the face of a retarded child.
Is catlady saying that there’s something wrong with McCain not advocating that a child with disabilities visually WITNESS an abortion???
What is she HOPING for — that OBlahMa’s comprehensive sex education for kindergartners be expanded to require such an observation?
Why don’tcha contact the Senator, catlady? His response will likely be “What can I say……it’s the right thing to do.”
By John
October 29, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
Perry McGuire? Really? Pardon me while I laugh uproariously.
Perry McGuire has little or no litigation experience. Proofreading leases in the corporate office at Chick fil A hardly qualifies him for a seat on the Court of Appeals. It’s great that he’s a former legislator and lockstep follower of the state Republican party. However, neither of those things give him any experience dealing with the examination of mistakes made at trial. Since this is what appellate judges do, it’s kind of important.
Perry McGuire showed himself, in his quest to become Attorney General, to be a buffoon. His performance in the race for Court of Appeals confirms his buffoonery. It shows a distinct lack of understanding of what appellate judges do for anyone to think he’s remotely qualified for the job. A bright third year law student would be much more qualified than old Perry.
Bruce Edenfield, Chris McFadden, and Michael Meyer von Bremen are all excellent attorneys and well respected professionals. All have probably forgotten more about trial work and appellate work in the last 24 hours than Perry McGuire will acquire in his entire life.
Jim, you should be embarassed for writing this column.
By Chad Harris
October 29, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Wooten’s endorsement of Perry McGuire is based on both of them being right Wingnuts. Neither of them knows much about the law, particularly appellate practice.
Wooten’s concept of the law and the courts is child like. This is the product of a very incurious mind that is satisfied once it sees a Wingnut in place. Wooten takes his cues from Wingnut emails that circulate and morons like Hannity and Limbaugh.
Remeber that Wooten is dim enough to think that Sarah Palin is qualified to hold any federal governemnt office because she’s a puppet of the Right Wing.
Nationwide the Republican attempts at vote caging and voter supression are failing miserably.
In Ohio, the attempt by John Boener now that they have failed in the Supreme Court to enlist the White House and DOJ to use faulty matching lists are failing. Even Mukasey refuses to try to tamper with an election a week away.
In Georgia, the SOS and the AG are now blaming each other for both having been found in violation of Title 5 by the 3 Judge Panel. Let the finger pointing begin. Handel’s transparent attempt to vote cage was knocked on its butt.
The attempt still is active in Indiana, but it will fail.
Another day, another land deal. In the late 1990s, John McCain tried to get the U.S. Forest Service to exchange part of the Tonto National Forest for land partly owned by a billionaire McCain contributor connected to Charles Keating. McCain was spurred to action by a developer, who wanted to turn the 2,154-acre Spur Cross Ranch — desert home to Hopi Indian artifacts and special cacti — into a golf course. (McClatchy)
Little — if anything — is known about a mysterious GOP donor, Shi Sheng Hao, who has given over a quarter million dollars to John McCain’s campaign and the RNC. Hao’s residence, occupation and current whereabouts are all unknown. But here’s what we do know: he declared bankruptcy in 1995, registered to vote after his massive donations began, doesn’t live at any of his listed addresses, and eight associates and relatives of Hao have given $130,000 to the RNC since last year. Curiouser and curiouser… (The Chicago Tribune)
[The Chicago Tribune has been an overtly conservative newspaper throughout its history as has the Chicago Sun Times. Both endorsed Obama of course.
In the Senate, Leiberman will be kicked off the Homeland Security Chairmanship soon.
Best of Sayyyyruhhhh Moron
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E](www.ajc.com)
To Couric:
Answering the question to give her examples where Maverick McCain advocated more regulation.
“I’ll try to find ya some and I’ll bring ‘em to ya.”
Palin and Wooten read about the same amount of newspapers. When asked to name the ones she reads:
“I’ve read….all of ‘em, any of ‘em that have been in front of me for years.”
By FDR
October 29, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
What McGuire lacks in appellate experience really is a non-issue. Most of the clerks do the work and as long as competent people are hired as clerks, a Judge really doesn’t have to KNOW anything. Just show up and ask questions.
However, what McGuire brings to the table is his experience in the legislature. At a time when agency budgets are being slashed across the state, including the Court of Appeals Budget, and as appellate case loads grow, it would be VERY beneficial to the court to have an advocate with legislative background to plead the Court’s case come budget time with the House and the Senate.
The Legislature doesn’t trust the Courts and the Courts expect to be screwed over by scummy legislators, so McGuire’s value as a negotiator for a larger budget for the Court of Appeals to handle the growing case load is worth even more than any appellate experience.
By John
October 29, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
Perry McGuire? You must be kidding.
He is by far the least qualified candidate (even more so than Tamela Adkins). Contrary to your statement that all the candidates are fairly well qualified, he’s spectacularly unqualified to sit on the Court of Appeals.
Appellate courts sit to correct legal errors made at trial. McGuire has no significant trial experience, or appellate experience. That’s kind of a big deal. He’s not a noted intellect or legal scholar. Proofreading leases as a flunky at the Chick fil A corporate office hardly qualifies him for a job on the state’s second highest court. A few undistignuished years as a state representative doesnt qualify him for the job, either.
The fact that intellectual lightweights like Eric Johnson and Lynn Westmoreland endorse him shouldnt be any badge of honor, either.
It shows a significant lack of understanding as to what appellate judges do if your reason to endorse him is “he’s a good conservative Republican.” McGuire has shown himself to be a buffoon in both his run for Attorney General and in this race.
There are several highly qualified, highly experienced, highly ethical candidates for this seat. Bruce Edenfield, Chris McFadden, and Michael Meyer von Bremen would all do an excellent job. They understand trial court practice, and appellate practice.
Instead of treating this race as just another partisan gig for someone who doesnt seem to understand what the job requires, you should try listening to people who actually care about getting a qualified attorney into the position. A bright third year law student at Emory or UGA would probably be better qualified than Perry McGuire. Your endorsement of this lightweight is a sad joke.