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Approach Amendment 2 with great caution
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
If you have the least bit of concern that government and business are too cozy, you should approach Amendment 2 on the November ballot in Georgia with great caution.
If you believe, as I do, that property tax dollars levied to educate Georgia’s children should not be spent for other purposes — as the Georgia Supreme Court unanimously declared on Feb. 2 — you should stand in long lines, if necessary, to vote “No” on Amendment 2.
The shame of the Georgia General Assembly is that no sooner had the Supreme Court spoken than did legislators swing into action, passing a proposed amendment that invites you to negate their opinion.
This was not, in the least, judicial activism. It was, in fact, the opposite. It was a Georgia Supreme Court strictly interpreting constitutional language. Conservatives should have rejoiced. Instead, led by Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle, they found bipartisanship and invite taxpayers to revise the State Constitution to allow education dollars to be handed over to developers. No.
Politicians, in rushing to negate the unanimous Supreme Court ruling, demonstrate the lack of fiscal discipline that on the local level will turn this into a on-demand giveaway. It is corporate welfare.
Amendment 2 is the worst of the proposed state constitutional amendments on the November ballot statewide. The other two, whether desirable or not, depend on your perspective.
Amendment 1 also has a cost that affects all of the state’s taxpayers.
At present, all agricultural holdings of less than 2,000 acres are eligible for property tax breaks if individuals and family owners agree not to subdivide or develop their land for 10 years. This proposal affects forest land and about 150 individuals and corporations who own more. It extends breaks, with no acreage cap, to those who agree to keep forest land in what is called the “conservation use valuation assessment” program for 15 years.
Counties and schools would lose money. The proposed amendment contains language that partially protects them. If the total county tax digest is reduced by 3 percent or less, the state’s taxpayers will reimburse the locals for half of their loss. Anything about 3 percent will be covered by the state. Projected cost is about $40 million per year.
The decision for voters is whether the preservation of large tracts of timberland for wildlife, environmental and possibly biofuel purposes justifies the cost. You decide. There’s no right or wrong answer.
Amendment 3 is the most interesting of the lot.
It allows the creation of what are called “Infrastructure Developing Districts.” The argument is that they’ll be a boon to poor rural counties. It’s far more likely that they’ll speed development along the coast and in the mountains, but in theory they could speed large-scale housing developments in counties without the financial base to develop the infrastructure needed for them.
The attraction of such districts for developers and for potential home buyers is that they allow the first wave of buyers to get far more in amenities than they could otherwise afford.
In the typical subdivision, a developer borrows money from the bank, paying market rates, to build homes, golf courses, tennis courts, community centers and other infrastructure. Those costs are built into the mortgages of home buyers. IDDs allow developers to borrow money at lower rates and to charge fees to homeowners until the bonds are paid off that were issued to provide the infrastructure and amenities.
This started off as lousy legislation and was considerably improved in terms of disclosure and other protections afforded the first and subsequent home buyers.
The districts are probably a good deal for the first wave of home buyers. They get more amenities than are built into the price of their homes.
The disadvantage is that they are forced to pay for their own schools, fire stations and other infrastructure as well as those provided elsewhere in the county. In that sense, they pay twice. Those who buy in the development in later years could be paying fees to cover maintenance and initial construction costs for aged facilities. But disclosure is such that purchasers should know what they’re getting into.
Amendment 3 is an amendment that started out giving virtually all power to developers; it was changed in the process to add disclosure and to give greater protections to homeowners. It’s unlikely that I’d buy into any such development, but to each his own.
Here, as well, there’s no right or wrong answer.
The worst of the lot, by far, is Amendment 2. It should be defeated.
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By No presidential vote for me
October 21, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this
The Wootster and I don’t agree on much, but Amendment 2 is where I am in lockstep. It’s another egregious example of where republicans have lost their way. It’s another giveway to a group that consistently screws anyone who’s not a developer. Vote NO on Amendment 2.
By Churchill's Mom
October 21, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this
To Hell with that Plumber, how about something about our Gal. Must read of the day.
Augusta Chronicle Editorial Staff Tuesday, October 21, 200819 It was certainly regrettable what the media did to Sarah Palin — attacking her unwed pregnant teen daughter, smearing her for non-existent ties to a secession movement, looking under every rock in Alaska for dirt on her. Much of it was inexcusable, but explainable, perhaps, by the fact that she is running for vice president.
Joe the plumber, though, isn’t running for anything. He hasn’t been elected or appointed to anything. All he did was ask presidential candidate Barack Obama a simple question: If I buy this plumbing company, will you tax me more?
When his question made the rounds, the media attacked. Let’s find out if he’s really a plumber. Let’s check to see if he’s up-to-date on his taxes. Is he even registered? Wait! Joe’s not his first name! Hmm. Let’s do a criminal background check.
Let’s just put aside the obvious punitive nature of some of this. Let’s just presume the best of intentions among the media. They’re still missing the point entirely.
This was never about Joe the plumber or whether he’s really a plumber or whether there’s some imperfections in his own life. This guy was always a metaphor, a symbol, for what Obama’s tax-and-spend policies will do to small business owners. That’s the issue. Not the questioner or even the question. The issue is the answer.
Obama’s answer was that he wants to “spread the wealth around.” He wants to take from the successful and give it to others — 40 percent of whom don’t even have to pay federal taxes.
“You know, when you can’t ask a question of your leaders anymore, that gets scary,” he said last weekend.
And when the questioner appears more important to the media mob than the question and answer, then something is terribly amiss.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 21, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I oppose all three potential amendments. One of the saddest truths of modern America is that most of our citizens have no idea of the purpose of a Constitution. Our federal Constitution was a revolutionary idea in its day, a written compact that defined the limits of government. While government has always been a useful entity to ensure mutual protection, the history of overlords is a history of arbitrariness and theft and abusive mistreatment of the citizenry by those placed (whether by custom or by election) into a position of trust. Our Constitution was created to limit arbitrary rule, and to constrain our overlords.
Much of the value of the Constitution has eroded in the past 50 years. Rather than serve as the bedrock of our culture, The Constitution is now a “living, breathing document” in the language of the left, nothing but mere words to be stretched to fit the predispositions of the overlords. In Kelo v New Haven, the leftists on the Supreme Court advised us that the last half of the Fifth Amendment no longer prohibits the states from taking and redistributing property rights (Obama loves that idea!), thus abolishing the last two clauses of the first section of the 14th Amendment. In Boumediene v Bush, the leftist court reversed all precedent and manufactured a right of habeas corpus for non-resident combatants captured on foreign battlefields, leading to last week’s bizarre court order to release acknowledged Islamist terrorists into the general population of the US. Justice Jackson’s concept, first offered in dissent – “the Constitution is not a mutual suicide pact,” Terminello v Chicago, 1949 – is dismissed without consideration, and we now have worldwide application of our Constitution. As to the horrific Kennedy v Louisiana, Justice Scalia charges the leftist justices with amendment of the Constitution by fiat. To facilitate the reader’s grasp of Scalia’s mocking concurring argument, the “views of the American people” were the purported rationale for the scorned majority decision:
“the views of the American people on the death penalty for child rape were, to tell the truth, irrelevant to the majority’s decision in this case. The majority opinion, after an unpersuasive attempt to show that a consensus against the penalty existed, in the end came down to this: “[T]he Constitution contemplates that in the end our own judgment will be brought to bear on the question of the acceptability of the death penalty under the Eighth Amendment.” Ante, at _ (slip op., at 24). Of course the Constitution contemplates no such thing; the proposed Eighth Amendment would have been laughed to scorn if it had read “no criminal penalty shall be imposed which the Supreme Court deems unacceptable.” But that is what the majority opinion said, and there is no reason to believe that absence of a national consensus would provoke second thoughts.
“While the new evidence of American opinion is ultimately irrelevant to the majority’s decision, let there be no doubt that it utterly destroys the majority’s claim to be discerning a national consensus and not just giving effect to the majority’s own preference. As noted in the letter from Members of Congress, the bill providing the death penalty for child rape passed the Senate 95–0; it passed the House 374–41, with the votes of a majority of each State’s delegation; and was signed by the President.”
I oppose Constitutional changes generally, on principal, whether by judicial fiat (obviously the least justifiable form of amendment) or even though the conventional ratification process. In the minor dust up between Magna Sarah and Captain Queeg last week, I unexpectedly found myself in full agreement with Captain Queeg’s view. The State of Georgia has a reasonably well-drafted Constitution, with rare pointed language designed to prevent clever misbehavior and deceptions by our overlords. The three proposed amendments are seemingly proffered to neuter those protections. I had no difficulty voting “no” on all three.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 21, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this
Dear C Mom @ 8:17, hope you saw Dr. Sowell’s essay on Ms. Palin last week. We may safely assume that Dr. Sowell has no desire to work in an Obama administration.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 21, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this
Best argument from Dr. Sowell’s essay last week: “Sarah Palin’s record is on the record, while whole years of Barack Obama’s life are engulfed in fog, and he has had to explain away one after another of the astounding and vile people he has not merely “associated” with but has had political alliances with, and to whom he has directed the taxpayers’ money and other money. “
By Republicans R Crooks
October 21, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
Everything Woodenhead and the neocon scum touch turns to trash….I put the odds that the ajc will be history within five years at 60 to 40, thanks to fools like the Idiot of the AJC…Save the ajc, fire Jimmy the Idiot…
By @@
October 21, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
I voted “NO” on all three Jim. When the government gets their fingers in the bread dough, they have a tendency to overwork it. No longer can it be cut……….it requires a chisel.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 21, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
As a life long Republican, I just want you all to know that I will be voting AGAINST John McInsane on 11/4/8….
By El Jefe
October 21, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
Sounds like Amendment 2 is right up Obama’s alley.
Take from those that have something - property owners - and give to those in need - urban planners.
I guess they have to try to fund the beltway somehow.
By El Jefe
October 21, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
Republicans R Crooks -
I gotcha something right here - the new Obama National Anthem
Sounds like you will enjoy it.
Come May 1st, I expect you will be marching in Obama’s May Day parade.
By JLK
October 21, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
I agree with Wooten and the fake lawyer today, and am voting NO on Ammendment 2, and anything else these bone-headed, ruin-our-state Republicans who control Georgia want to do to make stealing easier.
Question for those of you who think amending the Constitution should be done prudently, if ever, or only out of severe or extreme need to adjust the basis for our laws: How did y’all vote four years ago on the Amendment to PERMANENTLY DENY RIGHTS to a particular subset of citizens that the rest of Georgia’s citizens enjoy without question? (Specifically, did you act fast and urgently to stop the scourge of marriages between Bob & Steve that were somehow inexplicably destroying your own marriage?) Just curious.
By ron
October 21, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
I oppose constitutional amendments on the grounds that they’re usually not necessary.In the case of amendment 2,it’s an end run by a special interest group for profit.It will not benefit the citizenry.To be valid,an amendment should benefit as many people as possible.
The next link in a logical chain of events is to seek out the authors of such chicanery and target them for defeat in the next election.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 21, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
Special note to friend Southern Democrat: WSJ today explores ideas along the same lines as those animating my rant yesterday, the one that hurt your feelings. Written better than mine, admittedly. Odd coincidence in any event.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 21, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
El Jefe - Come May 1, I will be Camp Kommandant at the special repuke re education facility….I’m a hands on kind of manager, so many of the beatings I will personally administer…those who cannot be re educated will be liquidated….Especially the scum from Florida banks, like the crooks at Everbankers….I have a special treatment in store for their re education….
By Dusty
October 21, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
Well, some great comments and quotes this morning. Thank you. Churchhill’s Mom for the editorial from the Augusta Chronicle.
Thank you, Ragnar, for giving us Dr. Sowell’s commentary. He is such a sensible man. Always good thoughts. (Yes, I agree with you that Dr. Sowell will NOT have a job with Obama.) He is not like Colin Powell who WILL have a job as he finds Obama “transformational”.
Yes, crossing(destroying) the formation lines of our country to socialism is exactly the “diagnosis” for Obama. I do not want such a change.
There is a good letter to the editor this morning from Jerry Erickson who objects to the media treatment of Joe the Plumber.
Thanks also to *Grim Reaper who objects to the virulence of ‘Republicans R Crooks’. Having read several death threats directed to me, I am quite aware how much Repubs-R-Cro hates Republicans. Fact is, he does more harm to fair minded Democrats (yes, there are some) than he does to Republicans.
AND…..thank you, Jim Wooten, for your advice on the amendments. Guess I did the “right” thing on my early vote.
PS… Jim, would you advise the weatherman to bing back warm weather. I’M ABOUT TO FREEZE!!
By El Jefe
October 21, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
Republicans R Crooks -
you betcha -
Arbeit gibt Sie frei
By El Jefe
October 21, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
Republicans R Crooks -
Sorry, my Deutsch is a little rusty - it should have been
Arbeit macht frei
By MCCAIN MAN
October 21, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
As good white people who are concerned about American we can’t allow this obama be the face of the country we love.
So lets get together for the sake of our country and make sure that doesn’t happen.
By Redneck Convert
October 21, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this
Well, this amendment ties us good Republicans up in knots.
On the one hand we hate taxes more than death. So any tax is bad no matter where the money goes. So the best thing is get rid of the tax and hand over vouchers for people to use to go to schools that don’t have Those People and libruls and such.
On the other hand we love Private Innerprize. So if we got to be taxed we ought to hand the money over to Private Innerprize to use. Instead of to schools, that will just waste it on teaching and books and learning and such. Don’t nobody need to go to school beyond the 5th grade. This is GA, not some pointy-head state.
So I guess I’m all bumfuzzled this a.m. For years Wooten and Raghead and others been telling us how much better Private Innerprize is than guvmint. And now when we got a chance to take money away from guvmint schools and give it to Private Innerprize, all my Conservative friends are against it.
Danged if I can figure it out. Have a good day everybody.
By Dusty
October 21, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
MCCAIN MAN @10:15
good white people???? Awwww…another liberal “plant”..trying to get the old prejudice pap going. Give it up. You are too obvious…
By John Woodham
October 21, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
My name is John Woodham.
Yes, the “Woodham” in the case styled Woodham v. City of Atlanta et al., in which the Georgia Supreme Court by an overwhelming and unanimous ruling (7-0) held last February that property taxes collected to support public education cannot be diverted to subsidize private development; the case which resulted in Amendment No. 2 being on this year’s ballot. Not surprisingly, I wholeheartedly support Mr. Wooten’s opinion pieces advocating a position against Amendment No. 2.
The ruling in my case proved clearly that Georgia bond lawyers and their city, county and school board clients have been violating the State Constitution for the last 27 years by diverting school tax funds away from education to subsidize private development. If we are going to be taxed in order to run and operate public school systems in the State of Georgia, then those tax funds must be used for the educational purposes for which the funds were collected. The notion that those funds could instead be diverted to subsidize private development as a corporate welfare handout/bailout is just sickening, not to mention illegal on its face.
I strongly urge all right-minded citizens and taxpayers of the State of Georgia, whether republican or democrat, to vote “No” against Amendment No. 2 on November 4. I would also respectfully urge you to communicate this position to all your friends, family and colleagues.
John Woodham Atlanta, Georgia
By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
October 21, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Where Saxby gets his money,, Guess why he voted for the $700,000,000,000.00 Wall Street Bail out and added $153,000,000,000.00 of PORK for the LOBBYIST.. Fire Saxby NOW, Fire SAXBY Here, Pay less
Agribusiness $1,390,331 Communic/Electronics $271,104 Construction $318,237 Defense $146,650 Energy/Nat Resource $286,055 Finance/Insur/RealEst $1,352,121 Health $475,759 Lawyers & Lobbyists $652,285 Transportation $251,500 Misc Business $682,499 Labor $16,000 Ideology/Single-Issue $491,240 Other $601,332
By getalife
October 21, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
In Cali, there are a drive thru voting machines to vote from your car. Drop off absentee ballots.
Early voting has long lines but not as long as waiting for election day.
Hillary Clinton sent me to vote for Barrack Obama and all dems. Jobs, baby, jobs.
Vote early and fire the gop
By AmVet
October 21, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
Yes, let us not forget we have a stark choice here in Georgia.
Either the repugnant “Six deferment” Saxby or Jim Martin, a volunteer Vietnam veteran.
These are the times that try men’s souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.
NO MORE NEO-CON SUNSHINE PATRIOTS!
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 21, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Dear John @ 10:31, welcome to the blog. You accomplished more good with your one legal action than most of us will accomplish in a lifetime. We salute you.
By ron
October 21, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
Ragnar——I was once party to writing a contract between trade locals and a large corporation.We made the language as plain as possible.After all parties agreed on the written contract and signed off,we had a series of meetings with company personnel and union members where the exact intent of each article was explained.During the explanation of one particular point I was corrected by an official of the company’s bargaining unit as to what the actual intent really was.This was only the first of many contentuious argments during the life of the contract.So much for clear language in the Georgia Constitution.Or any other written or spokena greement between a minimum of two people.
By concerned citizen
October 21, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
The inherent risk of development projects has gotten little attention in these discussions. The effect of these amendments would be to shift an enormous proportion of the risk to the taxpayer.
Marietta has aggressively subsidized redevelopment over the previous few years through TAD funding and other favorable concessions to developers, including land sales at prices below the city’s acquisition costs. These projects would likely not have been undertaken by the developers without these subsidies. Now, most or all of these projects are in serious financial jeopardy as a result of the housing downturn. Have the financial consequences to taxpayers in Marietta been examined?
By Chad Harris
October 21, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
As Jim Wooten and the wingnut press sleep, illegal coordination between Mukasey DOJ and the McCain campaign runs rampent. This is parallel to the refusal of several US Attorneys who refused to comply and were fired by Rove’s hijacking of DOJ. Rove is the coward who runs his mouth in every media outlet he can, but is refusing Congressional subpoenas.
The remedy for that is for the next Congress to simply invoke inherent contempt and throw his fat butt in a cell until he testifies.
Congrats to Fox Noise for hiring Judy Miller the liar who wrote so many false articles for the NYT as a shill for Cheney, Bush, and Chalabi to gin up the 3 trillion dollar 5000 American dead fiasco and was fired never to work for a legitimate news outlet again in her life. Hence Faux News the station on in the Wooten, Williams, and Handel house holds.
Where are McCain and Palin’s medical records?? Where’s Cindy’s (Sugarmommy’s) tax returns for 2005-1007? Why won’t Palin the moroncuda sit down for her first press interview without her handlers Tracy Schmidt and Chris Evans from the George Bush staff (of course McPalin isn’t Bush they just have every single staffer that Bush used).
The term “judicial activism” when used by wingnuts like Wooten with a very very superficial knowledge of how state and particularly federal law and the state and federal courts work, their case law, and the code, should always be called “Wooten Judicial Activism” or WJA for Wingnut Judicial Activism. Simply put, any opinion state or federal that is not what Wooten or a wingnut wants, is WJA in action. Any opinion having any nexus with what they want is a well reasoned opinion/strict constitutional interpretation. If it’s an opinion that makes ole wtf is a court Wooten happy, then it’s proper. But if it doesn’t go Wooten’s way—wow that judicial activism is becoming pandemic. It’s always humerous to see wingnutties complain about opinions in federal courts like the D.C. Circuit with 18/21 active and senior judges little federalist martinets as being judicial activism. Half the judges are very loyal bushies either having worked in the WH for moron junya or as AUSAs on the Wategate team that spent about 85 million dollars and came up with jack diddly squat. Four of the WG employees are now on the federal bench including Amy St. Eve in Chicago aka the Northern District of Illinois.
Wooten doesn’t remember/never knew that SJC confirmed exponentially more Wingnut judges (little Federalist Society martinets that were more likely to have their law clerks who were also little federalist martinets write opinions wingnuts and little Federalists Society martinets wanted) were confirmed during Clinton’s administration than the next few years. There was still a trace of comity in Congress then; it’s dead forever now, just as this country’s economy will be near depression for years and the government will be broken irreparably for generations thanks to the Bush and Republican lawmakers. Hopefully one of the meanest p* in the Senate will be aboard the “federal sentencing bus” before Friday.
BTW when furniture is in your house for years that you didn’t pay for, it’s not a gift and you didn’t steal it—you’re just storing it for someone who has a home bigger than the AJC’s offices according to Ted Stevens on the stand day before yesterday.
If people grew Pinnochio noses for lies, we’d have wingnuts all over the place who couldn’t get through doors without sawing their noses off.
The Beltway is a good idea, and since education is a total failure in Georgia (look at these columns with no facts to butress the sweeping generalizations in Wooten’s paragrtaphs) but even the Piedmont Parkesque stretch of the Beltway is not happening before about 23 years from now. You can get on their mailing list and check out the projections/plans.
I voted for Amendment 2 being one of the poorly educated Springer afficianados well educated and well read people like Wooten dispairage and I voted darn early. I did not vote for any of the idiot judges who are prone towards opinions that would make Wooten happy, particularly the one who has tried his best to wreck the Defender system and constitutional rights from the legislature Michael Meyer von Breman. People like von Breman only want stellar defense when their butt is on the line. Just ask the many Republican members of Congress who spend scores of millions on their defense on the way to prison, including Ted Stevens.
I would however commend Mr. Wooten on today’s article, since he actually does name Amendments and tries to explain them specifically instead of his usual ramblings that Barack is a terrrrisssst because he served on a couple boards 40 years after Bill Ayres did stupid things and Barack was 8. Wooten of course swallows the cool aid that Obama launched his political career in Ayre’s “living room” even though this not only didn’t take place, but the two conservative Chicago newspapers who just endorsed Obama investigated and have said repeatedly it didn’t. Finding this out would require Jim Wooten to investigate the definition of Chicago and newspaper where he would find two very conservative papers who have never endorsed a Democrat for President in the history of the U.S.
How’bout them apples Jim?
Maybe the real Americans in the real America as McCain shill and lobbyist and wife of a lobbyist Nancy Pfotenhauer described them (like the two Virginias, two Pennsylvanias, or two Missouris she describes—(a virginia inside a virginia anatomically speaking) just know what’s hot or not.
I also don’t understand since Tina Fey is infinitely more ready to be VP or Oval Office occupant, why Moroncuda was not replaced on SNL on the ticket. I thought that was the big deal and cause for the highest ratings in years and was very disappointed when that did not occur. I was sure that was going to happen.
How ‘bout Minnesota Wingnut Michelle Bachman saying lol the press should investigate Congress to find out which people in Congress or real Americans? She has now put her race in play in Minnesota.
By tcoach
October 21, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
rep. r crooks: I thought i told you yesterday to stop trying to sound so violent and tough it just shows people with actual toughness how soft and gooey you are. Sad that you need to speak violently to make yourself feel less taken advantage of by life. We all know you are most likely short and overweight, not nearly in any capacity to give out any beatings. Got a little napoleon complex slightly. We all knew and still know people just like you small in some way either physical, mental or emotional that throw violent threats around in hope they can convince others of what they cannot convince themselves. That they are tough. Sorry.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 21, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
Indeed, all members of the Bush administration should be arrested, and their fat butts thrown into jail until they agree to speak freely under my, er, our interogation…arrest their wives, husbands and children too….Gitmo is the most appropriate jail for the likes of wolfie, libbie, pearlie, and filthy feithie….Make It So….
By Republicans R Crooks
October 21, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
aw, tball coach, if only ya knew….You wife admired my size 13 running shoes while you were “coaching” t-ball…..Seems your shoe size is a mere 6…
By freddy
October 21, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
*None of the three Constitutional Amendments are good for Georgia. I vote NO. *
By Dusty
October 21, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
Hey…..what fun!! I just read about Tito the builder. Sarah Palin found him when he objected to the treatment received by Joe the Plumber. He said he did not know why the news people were hunting down Joe the Plumber when he only asked some questions.
We all wonder about the “news hunt” that tried to smear Joe just because he asked Obama a question.
Seems Obama gave the “wrong” answer so the lefty media tried to chastise Joe. In other words, ruin him.
Thanks to Sarah Palin who is a politician who doesn’t mind bringing unfair treatment to the forefront. No shrinkiing violet Sarah when it comes to “righting a wrong”. Go Sarah, GOOOOO.. We have needed you for a long time.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
October 21, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
I see the whining Reich, fearful of justice to come, is on here throwing more fecal matter around. You folks are funny. it’s going to be great to hear you moan and gnash on Nov. 5th. The Republinazi Party is defeated!
By Peter
October 21, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
Well Jim…And all the WRONG’s…………
I wonder why John McCain will NOT Admit to the fact his family OWNED SLAVES ?
Anyone wanting to comment ?
By Chad Harris
October 21, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
If the war/surge is such a success why isn’t Bo Chambliss in Iraq instead of making all the country club booze parties in D.C.? What’s going to happen to that “surge success” when the Shiite mailitia calls of the cease fire and the thousands of Sunni insurgents (aka the “CLC”) we are paying millions to get tired of fighting for a country they hate, and there is still no political progress on the most significant contentious issues?
Some 70,000 former insurgents are now being paid $10 a day by the U.S. military. It costs about a quarter billion dollars a year in the three trillion dollar fiasco that’s helping to usher in Depression II.
Ole Saxbuh voted 99% with Bushie in the last eight years. His pronouncements during the passage of the illegal wiretapping debacle were simply false statements meant to take advantage of an indifferent and uneducated populace who is getting the democracy they deserve including the bills Bo writes for the Chicago Mercantile exchange.
Saxby still flies Corporate Jet Air free on company owned planes in a familiar quid pro quo.
“It leaves when you want to leave. It goes where you want it to go when you want it to go there. You don’t have to go through the normal security, and you get a lot more than peanuts.”
Little Bo is a recipient of this largess as well.
A spokesman for US Tobacco, Mike Bazinet, said that it received more requests for planes than it could fulfill and that it generally sent a representative on the flights. A spokeswoman for Federal Express, Kristin Krause, said it was policy to do just that. Ms. Krause rejected the notion that FedEx lobbyists had undue access.
“The way you get there is less important than what you do while you’re there,” said Mr. Chambliss, who spent more on corporate jet travel than any other incumbent senator, the Political Money Line said.
Mr. Chambliss said he never spoke to a lobbyist “about any particular issue” on his trips.
I wasn’t on the plane, but ole Saxbuh flew for free on corporate jets than any other Senatuh.
Here’s lookin at ya Bo and Saxbuh:
Saxby the Sugar Stooge. One of the biggest corporate stooges in the Senate, Saxby took corporate loyalty to a new level at a Senate hearing on Friday.
Based on his demeanor at a Senate hearing on Friday you would think Saxby owned Imperial Sugar Company.Well maybe Imperial Sugar owns him.
Saxby is arguing that a “whistleblower” is responsible for a February explosion that killed 13 people at the Imperial Sugar company plant in Port Wentworth, Georgia. Keep in mind that Graham. H. Graham (the man being questioned) had only worked at the plant for three months, while others allege years of safety violations.
Let’s follow the quotes and then follow the money and even Saxby’s son ,the corporate lobbyist, and his connections:
The Article in the Houston Chronicle says
“Chambliss also said he has not been influenced by any lobbyists for the Sugar Land, Texas-based company or by his son, Bo. The younger Chambliss is an in-house Washington lobbyist for the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, which also is represented by an outside firm that lobbies for Imperial Sugar. “My purpose has been to try to get the facts out,” Chambliss said. “This guy (Graham) is an agent of the company. How anybody can interpret that I’m doing something for the benefit of the company when really I’m chastising their agent is beyond me … The company’s got to stand on their own. I’m not about to defend them in any way.”
However that is countered by Graham and his attorneys as well as the other Georgia Senator Johnny Isakson.
“Hilder and others have accused Chambliss of doing the company’s bidding on Tuesday when he sharply questioned Graham at a Senate hearing. Chambliss’ questions raised eyebrows because no one aside from Imperial had publicly doubted Graham’s claims. That includes Chambliss’ fellow Georgia Republican, Johnny Isakson. The two rarely split, but Isakson says he has full faith in Graham’s account.”
Let’s follow the money for a second
This might show a little inisght as to why the questions of bias arise.
$1,000 to Saxby Chambliss this cycle- $2,000 of which was contributed by John Sheptor
John Sheptor is President and CEO of Imperial Sugar who is compensated quite handsomely.
Harold Mechler - CFO is a $500 Contributor to the PAC
Gaylord Coan - $1,000 contributor to the PAC is a director
(Apparently Savannah Congressman John Barrow returned some of the money he was given by Imperial and he’s not even questioning them at a Senate hearing)
Saxby Chambliss has received $21k from the Sugar industry this cycle.
Saxby Chambliss has a son Bo Chambliss who works for the Chicago Mercantile Exchange as a registered lobbyist (the quote is correct there)
Clarence “Bo” Saxby Chambliss has given $2,000 to the Chicago Mercantile PAC.
The Chicago Mercantile lobbyist works on behalf of several companies with ties to the Sugar Industry.
Googling lobbying and CME, we found one article that shows that
The Chicago Mercantile Exchange is employing the son of Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) to lobby members of his father’s congressional committee and other lawmakers on legislation that may increase trading at the exchange. Clarence Saxby “Bo” Chambliss Jr. is one of two staff lobbyists at the Merc charged with “providing information on issues that impact our industry to decision-makers in Washington,” Merc spokesman David Prosperi said Friday. Saxby Chambliss heads the Senate Agriculture Committee, which jointly oversees the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and must this year pass legislation reauthorizing the futures regulator through 2011. The CFTC’s current authority expires Sept. 30. The panel may vote as early as this month on a bill to reauthorize the CFTC, said a committee spokesman.
Now there isn’t much recusing Bo Chambliss can do with one other lobbyist unless that lobbyist is doing the heavy lifting while Bo is giving mulligans to Judge Smails
Conclusion: Saxby Chambliss needs to go home or get a job at some Sugar Refinery (Remember what he did to Max Cleeland) and remember Saxbuh faked a knee injury that was not examined with any modern degree of medical comp;etence and Bo chooses not to serve like so many other Republican cowards.
Thanks to TPM for the research on Saxby aka Saxbuh the Sugar shill.
By AF
October 21, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
Well, finally, I can say I agree with Jim Wooten on something. Say no to Amendment 2. If politicians want to support developers, then put out a referendum for that - don’t try to hide it by redirecting school funding.
By the way, Ken Adelman is going to vote for Obama. Adelman was a hawk on the war in Iraq but fell out with Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz for botching the war. George Packer, who writes in The New Yorker, said: “Still, he remains a bona-fide hawk (’not really a neo-con but a con-con’) who has never supported a Democrat for President in his life. Two weeks from now that’s going to change.”
Parker received an email from Adelman, giving the surprising news and his reasons:
This from the Adelman email: “When the economic crisis broke, I found John McCain bouncing all over the place. In those first few crisis days, he was impetuous, inconsistent, and imprudent; ending up just plain weird. Having worked with Ronald Reagan for seven years, and been with him in his critical three summits with Gorbachev, I’ve concluded that that’s no way a president can act under pressure.”
Adelman again: “Second is judgment. The most important decision John McCain made in his long campaign was deciding on a running mate. That decision showed appalling lack of judgment. Not only is Sarah Palin not close to being acceptable in high office—I would not have hired her for even a mid-level post in the arms-control agency. But that selection contradicted McCain’s main two, and best two, themes for his campaign—Country First, and experience counts. Neither can he credibly claim, post-Palin pick.”
Okay - so it seems Colin Powell and Ken Adelman agree on these two points: McCain does not have the temperament or the judgement a US President needs.
Now I ask you - do you still think a 72 year old cancer survivor who is running for President shows good judgement in choosing as a running mate someone who thinks foreign policy experience is having Russia on one side of her state and Canada on the other?
By ron
October 21, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this
Dusty——I just put a couple more logs on the fire and you might be here basking in the warmth except for that horribly unflattering portrait you painted of me on my bike.You mght be sipping on a cup of Hawiian Blue Mountain coffee or holding a glass of Laphroaig to your lips ,while drinking in the heady smell of peat smoke that morphed through it’s cask for 10 years of it’s life.Perhaps the cat would even allow you to pat him.That’s only a perhaps,you understand,He’s particular.I’ll sit here alone with my dreams while you freeze.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 21, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
For you horse race aficionados, the news is interesting today, McCain has taken the lead in Florida and Ohio (despite ACORN.) That may be enough. Suspect “spreading the wealth” does not play well wherever bitter people cling to guns and religion.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 21, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
The Wootens: Slave Owners - Aw hear that is the name of Jim’s new (and only) book. IMHO, all decendents of former slave owners should do five years hard time in prison, and forfeit all inherited assets….Make it So….Oh, yeah, Dusty is afraid of fire, a really bad experience in a previous life that occurred around Salem, Ma. She is not too found of water either, seeing as how she has that strong and powerful odor of mendacity about her….that and the fate of her screen idol in the Wizard of Oz…Seriously, all enablers of the neocons should be held accountable, and made to pay for their crimes against America and Humanity….
By Chad Harris
October 21, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this
*I wonder why John McCain will NOT Admit o the fact his family OWNED SLAVES ? from Peter
That’s easy to answer. While McCain jumps up and down saying he’s not racist, he and Palin, and the robocalls that he detested when Bush used them against him in 2000 in a racist fashion (McPalin is employing the same people who destroyed him in 2000 with calls on his adopted daughter that Cindy sprang on him without discussion that claimed he fathered a black child) the moron Palin has been doing nothing but holding racist rallies. Palin also recognizes as do Tracy Schmdit and Chris Evans the Bushie staffers that are her press flacks, that she is too dumb to answer questions from the press so she is going to the election without holding a single full scale press conference. Obama and Biden have held press conferences several times a week and take questions from voters several times a day in contrast to Palin the moroncuda. Obama and Biden have been on the non-Fox Sunday talk shows for 30-60 minute interviews scores of times because they have confidence in their grasp of foreign and domestic affairs and Palin is dumb enough to say she gets her knowledge because she can see Russia from Alaska.
I can see Wooten and the AJC from Piedmont park on a clear day though.
As to McCain’s recurrent melanoma which we all hope does not recur regardless of his hateful politics, he has revealed no significant medical information nor has Palin revealed a scintilla of medical information.
To be fair, Obama could have documented his medical information with dates a little more comprehensively, but he has released info through 2007 that gives him a normal phyiscal exam with a normal lab panel.
Biden has released 50 pages relating to his health and his previous emergency and electie cerebral aneurysm surgery—the first 20 years prior in 1988.
2700 physicians have signed a petition for release of McCain’s medical records, but it’s going nowhere just like McCain’s chances.
McCain has released medical info selectively that allows no one with medical training to make much sense of it.
McCain attempted to hang himself with his shirt.
Despite that no diagnosis or record of mental health treatment has been released. I would submit that when someone attempts to hang themself there are problems that need to be fixed.
According to Dr. Larry Altman at NYT “Mr. McCain’s campaign said this year that the left-temple melanoma was 2.2 millimeters at its thickest part and graded as Stage IIA on a scale in which Stage IV is the worst. Stage II meant that the melanoma had not spread into the lymph nodes.”
While McCain claimed but did not provide proof/records/path reports that his recent left temple melanoma was the less dangerous in situ melanoma, AFIP pathologists who examined the biopsy said it was in fact a metastasis.
The Mayo clinic in Arizaona inexplicably performed surgery on McCain that was so extensive it is usually reserved for a Stage III Melanoma rather than a IIA.
“If Mr. McCain’s 2000 left-temple melanoma was a metastasis, as the Armed Forces pathologists’ report suggested, it would be classified as Stage III. The reclassification would change his statistical odds for survival at 10 years from about 60 percent to 36 percent, according to a published study.
The greatest risk of recurrence of melanoma is in the first few years after detection. His age, his sex and the presence of the melanoma on his face increase the risk.
The fact that Mr. McCain has had no recurrence for eight years is in his favor. But cancer experts see the 10th anniversary as an important statistical benchmark, and that would not occur until 2010.
In May, his dermatologist at the Mayo Clinic, Dr. Suzanne M. Connolly, said in the teleconference that though there was no way to predict with certainty Mr. McCain’s chance of a recurrence, she judged it to be less than 10 percent. But melanoma is known to be quirkier than most cancers; doctors cite occasional cases in which melanomas come back after 15 or 20 years.”
If something were to happen to McCain that would keep him from continuing in the office he won’t win, that would leave you witha pure bred moron as President of the US—a woman so dumb she could not begin to get a reporting job at the AJC—and this is an assessment of Palin not a reflection of the many talented and fine people who report and write for AJC.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 21, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this
Just Say No to Saxby the Draft Dodger….
By AmVet
October 21, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
I think we need an amendment to bring back the REAL Stars & Bars!
And then another outlawing beer altogether. (it’s like prostitution, you know).
By Republicans R Crooks
October 21, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
Republicans are not only Crooks, but they are also Liars, they live by the Big LIE. Take the local fool, Ragnar Danneskjöld, who claims above that McCancerFace now leads in Ohio and Florida. Wrong, read below, and henceforth just skip anything with Ragnar Danneskjöld name on it…
October 21, 2008 Obama Appeal Rises in Poll; No Gains for McCain Ticket By MEGAN THEE As voters have gotten to know Senator Barack Obama, they have warmed up to him, with more than half, 53 percent, now saying they have a favorable impression of him and 33 percent saying they have an unfavorable view. But as voters have gotten to know Senator John McCain, they have not warmed, with only 36 percent of voters saying they view him favorably while 45 percent view him unfavorably.
Even voters who are planning to vote for Mr. McCain say their enthusiasm has waned. In New York Times and CBS News polls conducted with the same respondents before the first presidential debate and again after the last debate, Mr. McCain made no progress in appealing to voters on a personal level, and he and his running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin, had alienated some voters.
Personal appeal is an intangible element in voters’ decisions. Each voter has a personal reason for connecting with a candidate or not. But the percentage of those who hold a favorable opinion of Mr. Obama is up 10 points since last month. Opinion of Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., Mr. Obama’s running mate, is also up, to 50 percent last weekend from 36 percent in September.
In contrast, favorable opinion of Mr. McCain remained stable, and unfavorable opinion rose to 45 percent now from 35 percent in September. Mrs. Palin’s negatives are up, to 41 percent now from 29 percent in September.
Mr. Obama’s favorability is the highest for a presidential candidate running for a first term in the last 28 years of Times/CBS polls. Mrs. Palin’s negative rating is the highest for a vice-presidential candidate as measured by The Times and CBS News. Even Dan Quayle, with whom Mrs. Palin is often compared because of her age and inexperience on the national scene, was not viewed as negatively in the 1988 campaign.
The nationwide telephone poll was conducted Sept. 21-24, with re-interviews completed Friday through Sunday of 518 adults, 476 of whom are registered voters. The margin of sampling error is plus or minus five percentage points for all adults and voters.
Among the voters who said their opinion of Mr. Obama had improved, many cited his debate performance, saying they liked his calm demeanor and the way he had handled the attacks on him from the McCain campaign.
Of those who said their opinion of Mr. McCain had been tarnished, many cited his attacks on his opponent, the choice of Ms. Palin as his running mate and his debate performance.
“Even though I am a Democrat, there was a strong possibility I would have voted for McCain,” said Yolanda Grande, 77, a Democrat from Blairstown, N.J. “What pushed me over the line was McCain’s choice of vice president. I just don’t think she is qualified to step in if anything happened to him.”
Marina Stefan contributed reporting.
By Dusty
October 21, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
Just say NO to liberal agitators and liars Chad Harris and Rubublicans R Crooks. THEIR PROPAGANDA IS NOT WORTH READING. But they have to have something to do besides sell pencils on the street.
By tcoach
October 21, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Rep. R crooks. Sorry went to lunch and missed your post about me and my wife nice. Really only a couple of problems. Had you been on here before you would know that I am actually the youngest head coach of varsity basketball in my state. 2nd point your size 13 is nice, lil bit of a lie but nice. However again had you been here before you would know I played college basketball and a couple of years professionally overseas. While standing in at 6’4”1/4 I will see your 13 and raise you 2, been that way since 10th grade.
But hey next can you maybe threaten me or my family in hope of angering me and enriching your little life. Keep talking though we all get to see how void of intellect, charecter and an actual backbone you really are. Have a nice day me and my wife are gonna go out tonight wanna come?
By Redneck Convert
October 21, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
Well, I been following the trial of this Sen. Stevens of Alaska and it give me a idea.
If anyone wants to loan me a new double wide, one that don’t have holes shot in it like mine, and the furnishings to go with it I promise to e-mail them every month saying to send me the bill—long as they don’t send me a bill.
Leastwise this Stevens ain’t writing love notes to teenage boys or paying women to beat him while he’s in a diaper or playing footsie with the guy in the next bathroom stall. Now that’s a Republican we can respeck.
I see this prevert ron is still trying to get Sister Dusty’s clothes off. There ought to be a law against him. The old goat won’t stop still some woman strips for him. Don’t Wooten have any control over his own blog?
Have a good day everybody.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 21, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
Dear Crook @ 1:02, perhaps you confused you cut and paste items. Otherwise, inquiring minds would ask whether the New Jersey resident is voting in Florida or Ohio. (Or perhaps you post merely reflects your confusion between alternate realities?)
By ron
October 21, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
Yolande Grande has perfect Democrat reasoning.The Republican Vice Presidential nominee is, to her,unqualified,so she is going to vote for the least qualified of the four for President.
By Joe the Thumber
October 21, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
Gentlemen, GENTLEMEN! Lets not deride one another nor question our collective patriotism. Let’s be more like the G7 countries who shake hands and nod in agreement even though they’d rather deep six each other.
But there is one issue that needs 2B resolved in this debate: Is Joe the Plumber 4real? We must find out whether there is any possible connection between him and the Keating Five, the Gang of Four, the Three Stooges, the DoubleMint Twins, and the single bullet theory.
We must know the truth in order to determine if Obama is really Osama with mickey mouse ears, like Cubby who used similar ears to trick us all into believing that he could play the drums.
I dont think it’s an exageration to say that the future of our country depends on Joe the Plumber’s credibility.
Wooten, you’re a journalist. You can come out from behind the eight ball with me if you write a professional report on Joe the Plumber’s connection to all those aforementioned terror groups and historical boobytraps.
It’s up 2U, jim W. We’re counting on you.
By rich
October 21, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
What’s with all the warmongering talk from Biden Hairplugs if Obama gets elected? No wonder they have kept a lid on this character lately.
“Joe Biden warned that America’s enemies would test Barack Obama with an international crisis within six months if he’s elected president - a shocking comment John McCain eagerly pounced on yesterday to claim Obama isn’t ready to be commander-in-chief.”
Whether the libs want to stick their head in the sand or not, this election is still in a dead heat. In addition, libs apparently have short memories. Just this time four years ago Kerry was up by as much as 11% in some polls against W. Another poll, while not scientific, comes from Nickelodeon kid viewers, who had Kerry approval by 57% to 43%. Today, that same ‘poll’ shows Obama up by just 51% to McCain’s 49%, and that’s out of 2.3 million kids who voted.
No sir, no ma’am. This election is not over by any means.
By doug
October 21, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
I use a quick rule on Georgia Admendments. Unless I am positive 100% before I enter the voting booth that this is a good thing, I always vote NO.
By Bo Chambliss LOBBYIST
October 21, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
Chad Harris 12:22 PM
Like my father Saxby I am a COWARD but I did not have to pay off the doctor to get out of the draft. Can you believe that Martin actually volunteered to go in the Army at a time of war. We Saxbys have a long history of running rather than fighting for our country.
By Okay, Deal.
October 21, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
rich, you just proved that Obama will win. Learn how to debate. Learn how to set up a credible conclusion that is not found in your premise.
If the kids were that far off in ‘04, then they’ll be that far off in 08, thus, as they suggest a tight race, it will be a landslide4Obama.
Palin asked if James Earl Ray was up for parole. When told that he had died in prison, she said, “Who else can we get?”
She’s one tuff cookie.
CNN just reported that McCain admitted to wetstarting his jet on the Forrestal during Nam, which cause a series of mishaps which set fire to the carrier in the greatest naval disaster in our history. Then McCain admitted getting drunk and laughing about it the very same night. That’s why he had to flee the ship. He sez he’s sorry now.
Obama 08: He’s right for what’s left of America.
By AmVet
October 21, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
I think we need an amendment to bring back the REAL Stars & Bars!
And then another outlawing beer altogether. (it’s like prostitution, you know).
By Ga Values
October 21, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
My wife & I went to vote about 1:30 today & there was no line. It took about 20 minutes to do everything. On the way home, I asked her how she votes & she said Librtarian where the was 1, for a few friends of both parties & no on all the amendments. We never discuss politics but both voted the same way. Wouldn’t it be a shock if Bob Barr became President, maybe more than Sonnie becoming Governor.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 21, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this
Lets Wet Start the Republican Party on 11/4/8…INCINERATE THEM AT THE POLLS…LET THERE BE NO SURVIVORS….
By making
October 21, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
Too bad everyones not voting the “Obamafan” criteria method…
By Obamafan
October 21, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
@GeorgiaGAl, and CC Please never tell anyone that you all are black, you sound highly uneducated and ignorant, any black person thats votes for Mccain is foolish and has issues, black people have come to far to let you two fools! and I mean Fools make us look foolish, please tell people you are a uncle tom white person!! Its a disgrace to hear that black people are not voting for Obama, its even worse when we dont vote at all, BUT IT IS HORRIBLE WHEN WE VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHITE AND OLD AND CAN CARELESS ABOUT US AS A PEOPLE. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!
To: Obamafan..So your comments show to all of us the TRUE idea of the black population…we have a black person running for President, so he should be the ONE. You vote for the best qualified, NOT RACE. If everyone thought as you…McCain will win by a landslide, but I believe everyone else have enough sense to not vote RACE but to vote by their qualifying view. This is an election, not an entitlement. Thanks for your comment. Prayer for America.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 21, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
YO: ON THE RAG-NAR: Poll findings could be trouble for McCain
61 percent of registered voters say economy extremely important to their vote
Economic jitters likely to benefit Barack Obama, says CNN polling director
76 percent think U.S. in recession; 40 percent expect depression within year
By Alexander Mooney CNN
(CNN) — Economic woes are impacting the presidential race more than at any time since the primaries ended, according to a poll released Tuesday — a potentially troubling sign for John McCain.
The poll found 61 percent of registered voters say the economy is extremely important to their vote, a jump of 3 points since June. The economy ranks more than 10 points higher than the next most important issue on voters’ minds, terrorism.
The findings highlight an unfavorable political landscape for McCain, whose party has controlled the White House for the past eight years. Voters have also consistently ranked the Arizona senator lower than his Democratic rival on the question of which candidate is better equipped to steer the country through the economic crisis.
“Economic jitters are likely to benefit Barack Obama, because Obama has consistently outscored John McCain on economic issues,” said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Fifty-six percent say that Obama would do a better job than McCain on the economy, and 63 percent say he would do a better job than McCain on providing help to the middle class.”
More potentially damaging news for McCain’s White House hopes is that 76 percent of voters who responded to the CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll say the United States is in a recession, and 40 percent say another depression is likely to hit within a year.
A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released earlier Tuesday also showed two-thirds of voters said they’re scared about the way things are going; three in four said the current conditions in the country are stressing them out.
“If Americans are angry about the state of the country, they’re probably more angry at the Republicans than the Democrats, since the GOP has controlled the White House for the past eight years,” Holland said.
The latest poll numbers make clear just how different the political climate is in 2008 from four years ago, during President Bush’s successful re-election bid. In a late October poll in 2004, fewer than four in 10 voters said the economy was an extremely important concern, while nearly 50 percent identified terrorism as the most salient issue facing the nation.
That playing field would certainly would have been friendlier to McCain, who has long received higher marks from voters on issues of national security.
“Since McCain is still seen as the best candidate to handle terrorism and Iraq, he might be doing much better in the polls today if the economy hadn’t muscled national security issues out of the top spot,” Holland said.
If 2008 resembles any recent political year, it’s 1992, when roughly the same number of Americans thought the country was headed in the wrong direction —mainly because of the economic recession that year. That issue is largely credited with helping then-Arkansas Gov. Bill Clinton defeat President George H.W. Bush.
“In 1992 it was ‘the economy, stupid’ that got Bill Clinton elected. When Americans are in a bad mood it does have political consequences,” CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider said. “The angrier you feel, the more likely you are to vote for Obama.”
The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll was conducted by phone with 1,058 adult Americans on October 17 to 19. The poll has a sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
By Okay, Deal.
October 21, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
Gentlemen, GENTLEMEN! Lets not deride one another nor question our collective patriotism. Let’s be more like the G7 countries who shake hands and nod in agreement even though they’d rather deep six each other.
But there is one issue that needs 2B resolved in this debate: Is Joe the Plumber 4real? We must find out whether there is any possible connection between him and the Keating Five, the Gang of Four, the Three Stooges, the DoubleMint Twins, and the single bullet theory.
We must know the truth in order to determine if Obama is really Osama with mickey mouse ears, like Cubby who used similar ears to trick us all into believing that he could play the drums.
I dont think it’s an exageration to say that the future of our country depends on Joe the Plumber’s credibility.
Wooten, you’re a journalist. You can come out from behind the eight ball with me if you write a professional report on Joe the Plumber’s connection to all those aforementioned terror groups and historical boobytraps.
It’s up 2U, jim W. We’re counting on you.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 21, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
YO TCOACH: You write like a woman, so ah suspect you are a lying female repuke….google that..
By Peter
October 21, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
HA HA HA…………
By Dusty
October 21, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
Just say NO to liberal agitators and liars Chad Harris and Rubublicans R Crooks. THEIR PROPAGANDA IS NOT WORTH READING. But they have to have something to do besides sell pencils on the street.
This is Dusty and I approve this message !
HA HA HA……..
Hey Dusty why does McCain say his family never owned slaves ?
With a bunch of black folk running around with the name McCain, and the McCain Family parties going down…….it is quite obvious his family did own them…………
Do you think John doesn’t want the world to know he has Black relatives ?
By tcoach
October 21, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
Citizen you are correct I will not be able to escape opinion in search of facts. I love how both of you have latched onto a small part of my original post because you do not want to deal witht the meat of the content. Also look at other columns on here and tell me the author was not trying to incite a discussion of how radical christains and their ideas are. Why does the author feel the need to tear down one group to lift anothers story? If it was such an important story to the author why no mention when she was kicked out of the leauge the first time. I must have missed that column.
By tcoach
October 21, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
What criteria do you use to tell if a person typing something is a woman?
Other democrates or liberals why would you not reign this nut in he makes you all look bad.
By Aaron
October 21, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
What else is Barack Obama hiding?
John Kerry the next secretary of State?
Republican Senator Chuck Hagel at the Pentagon?
Al Gore as Energy secretary?
These names and others are in the air as media speculation runs wild on the bipartisan “star” Cabinet Barack Obama has in mind if elected president. But some of these names might cost Obama votes in the key states he needs on Election Day, so Cabinet announcements will come after the votes are cast.
JOHN F’N KERRY AS SECRETARY OF STATE?
SAY IT AIN’T SO JOE!
AN AMERICAN TRAITOR AS SECRETARY OF STATE?
Sounds about right. Obama would swap our republic for marxist rule.
By Dusty
October 21, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
ron@12:12
My WARM friend, how chivalrous of you to circumvent my chilliness on the cumbersome coolness of this day. Just think! I could be sipping laphroaig (WHAT IS THAT?) all toasty. Unfortunately I have an aversion to ANYTHING that has been seeping through a cask or crawling through a cavern for ten years. Not to mention your 400 lbs. on the fireside sofa would hardly leave room even for the cat or my sylph like self!
But be not alone! That cur R. Convert is begging for an invite. Wouldn’t you know?? He’s probably got an Obama sign out trailer front with his pink flamingoes. But thanks, again, dear wagon-load of warmth. I shall be reminded of you while carving big big pumpkins a la’ Halloween.
By fearless fosdik
October 21, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
AARON..You state that John Kerry is a traitor!
And, for what reason would that be?
By Gator Joe
October 21, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
John Kerry has a few things most of you Republican Chicken Hawks don’t have, service in combat, decorations for that service, and an honorable discharge. When Obama wins the election, perhaps a number of you racist, anti-semitics will want to move to another country. Please begin by vacating Georgia, I’ll fund your exit.
By Dusty
October 21, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
Peter,
Have you gone off the deep end?
Is your middle name Hussein which means you were a slave to a middle eastern ARAB??
Fess up!! Your name is KungFu so that means you were a slave to CHINESE???
I knew it. I knew it. Shakespeare (he was black Irish) wrote: A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. So your name is Pete ROSIE???
(Well, you were not making any sense either..)
By making
October 21, 2008 3:33 PM | Link to this
Hopefully everyone will take a moment and really think as they cast their ballot…it will no doubt be the most difficult times in America for many years.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 21, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
No Gator Joe, keep the Repukes here in Georgia: We can always reopen Andersonville…..
By HDB
October 21, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this
Re: Ragnar Danneskjöld 8:31 AM
I also read Thomas Sowell’s essay; UI’m still not convinced that he knows what he speaks. All of the candidates have a record: Obama - Columbia/Harvard grad (Magma Cum Laude), President of Harvard Law Review. Palin: 5 different colleges - BA - Journalism, Idaho; McCain: USNA 845th out of 849…stayed due to family’s influence. McCain: viewed as erratic and tempermental; Obama: cool, intellectual, comtemplative. McCain: can’t use a computer - stuck in 20th Century thought; Obama: analytical - progressive in 21st Century logic. The side issues show more about McCain’s faults: Keating, Liddy, and his son have done more to defraud the American public than Obama has ever done.
The comment “spread the wealth” is NOT socialistic; was it not John F. Kennedy that said “…a rising tide lifts all boats”? To spread the wealth means that everyone should have the OPPORTUNITY to obtain wealth; the Republicans want to maintain the status quo by keeping wealth in the hands of the PRIVILEGED few…while Obama wants EVERYONE to obtain wealth. That is NOT socialism….that’s CAPITALISM!! Thomas Sowell repeats the Republican line as one of the PRIVILEGED….not one of this MASSES!!
I’m TIRED of the distortions that conservatives keep making on this campaign, i.e., Marxist/socialist; have they forgotten that under Nixon, gasoline first broke the $1.00 barrier; under Bush41, gas was over $2.00…and now Bush43, gas prices DOUBLED in 8 yrs?? Oil men created the current energy policy….and look where the nation is?? McCain and his deregulation policies from the 80’s caused the FIRST S&L scandal……and this was just a continuation of the same!! Have they forgotten that every time through out history that a Republican has gotten into the White House..that the nation undergoes an economic, constitutional and/or military crisis? (Lincoln: Civil War; McKinley: Spanish-American War; Hoover: Great Depression/WW2; Eisenhower: Korean Conflict/Vietnam; Nixon: Watergate; Reagan: 4-Year Recession; Bush41 - 2-year Recession/Gulf War (“read my lips….no new taxes)..Bush43: Iraq/Afghanistan War, 9/11, and current recession). Is that not enough for the nation to take??
By Peter
October 21, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
Dusty What is your problem today ?
I asked a simple question and like McCain you beat around the bush, and never answer the question……
Gosh you are REPUBLICAN…. ask a question directly, and all one gets is avoidance !
Gosh Dusty.why don’t you just answer the question…..
Why won’t McCain tell the world….. his family had slaves ?
By Pro Hater
October 21, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this
making, what’s going on my friend? How about that Colin Powell endorsement? So I guess you have lost all respect for him like you said.
By Disgusted
October 21, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this
Hopefully everyone will take a moment and really think as they cast their ballot…it will no doubt be the most difficult times in America for many years.
Yes, Georgians ought to think carefully before casting a ballot this year. For instance,
If you vote for a Democrat, you can probably say goodbye forever to the rule of the Baptist mullahs who want to tell you how to procreate and who declare that a zygote is a full-fledged human being. Do you really want that?
A vote for Obama probably spells the end of the presidential signing statement, wherein the president states that an act of Congress means just the opposite of what it says. Do you really want that?
A vote for Obama signals the beginning of the end of Supreme Court appointees who recognize the rights of business and deny the rights of individuals. Do you really want that?
A vote for Obama will throw about 300,000 defense contractors in Iraq out of work. Do you really want to turn loose an army of trained killers who suddenly become unemployed? And what will happen to the price of Halliburton stock? Do you really want that?
A vote for Obama will probably mean the appointment of members of the Equal Opportunity Commission and various labor boards. Do you really want women, minorities, and union members to have full rights under the law?
Yes, think twice before casting your vote. You could be changing practices we’ve grown very comfortable with over the past eight years. That way lies chaos.
By Peter
October 21, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
For DUSTY……….
Descendents of slaves owned by ancestors of John McCain will vote for Barack Obama The descendants of slaves owned by ancestors of John McCain will vote for Barack Obama, it has emerged.
By Urmee Khan Last Updated: 1:57PM BST 21 Oct 2008
Lillie McCain, 56, a professor of psychology in Flint, Michigan, traces her lineage from two of more than 120 black slaves before the end of the Civil War at Teoc, the Mississippi plantation owned by the family of Republican nominee John McCain’s great-great-grandfather.
“I think that since we can’t undo what has been done, that the most effective thing for us to do is figure out how to put things in perspective and go from there.
“To harbour anger and hostility and all that is counterproductive,” she told the Wall Street Journal.
A cousin of Mr McCain still owns 1,500 acres of the original 2,000.
Mr McCain’s younger brother, Joe, and other white McCains have attended family reunions organised by the African-American McCains.
Lillie McCain’s family is descended from two slaves, named Isom and Lettie, according to interviews and examinations of family documents, county files and U.S. Census Bureau records.
According to members of the white McCain family, the plantation was purchased by Mr McCain’s great-great-grandfather, William Alexander McCain, in 1851.
“We’ve had the pleasure of meeting Joe McCain,” she said, “He attends the reunions at Teoc … I haven’t had the pleasure of meeting Senator McCain.
“I heard him say on, I believe it was Meet the Press, that his ancestors owned no slaves. Well, I certainly have carried the name McCain from the beginning of my life, and I’ve known the ties to John McCain, and have tried to get him to communicate with me about that, but he has been unwilling at least to date.”
Miss McCain urged John McCain to “acknowledge the reality of the relationship that we hold.”
“I am absolutely supporting Obama, and it’s not because he’s black,” said Lillie. “It’s because he is the best person at this time in our history.”
YES Dusty ……….. seems McCain’s great-great-grandfather……. was a busy man when it came to the Black women !
By Pro Hater
October 21, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Obamafan, you are the one that sounds foolish. People should never vote based on color. If there are Black people that want to vote for McCain, that is their choice and you cannot down them for that. If they think that McCain is the better choice, they should vote for him. Please stop validating the point that Black people vote based on race.
By making
October 21, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
To Pro Hater…Hey…No I have been thinking after that comment and I haven’t lost the repect for Powell…his decisions are his as each voter in the booth will indeed make theirs. We all get caught up in this election stuff and really we forget what’s truly information…our health. As I approach 2 1/2 yrs on chemo I need to focus on being well. With the election outcome, with Gods help as always…we will get through it until the next election.
By RUKiddin
October 21, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
OPEC Pushing to Cut Production, Drive Up Oil and Gasoline Prices(http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,442343,00.html)
Yet another reason to vote for McCain. While Obama is freely distributing my money to fund his government antics, I’m sure this will be an issue that he’ll sit down with Ahmadinejad and have a one-on-one chat with.
Wake up America.
By Peter
October 21, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
Hey by Disgusted……..
A vote for Obama will throw about 300,000 defense contractors in Iraq out of work. Do you really want to turn loose an army of trained killers who suddenly become unemployed? And what will happen to the price of Halliburton stock? Do you really want that?
YES…….. by GOD the end of the BILKING of AMERICA !
Thank you for bringing that UP !
By Pro Hater
October 21, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
making, sorry to hear about that and I wish you well. I hope you get better soon. That sounds like a very positive outlook. God doesn’t give us more than we can handle and will get us through anything.
By Peter
October 21, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
Hey by Disgusted………..Gosh this is VERY FUNNY………
“Yes, think twice before casting your vote. You could be changing practices we’ve grown very comfortable with over the past eight years.”
Thank you for the Laugh……. HA HA HA……..
Gosh all the wonderful stuff Bush has done ……. no wonder he will be considered the worst President EVER !
By Aaron
October 21, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
fosdick, You’re kidding, right? John F’n Kerry, during his testimony, gave the justification our enemies sought to kill American troops. The troops were still in harms way.
Go suck on that faux dick of yours, why don’tcha.
Sheesh!
By lwwmm7
October 21, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
Since Obama is half white, I’m claiming him as the great white hope for our beleagured nation. Maybe we can get off this race thing one of these days, but I’m afraid I won’t be around to see it.
By making
October 21, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
Yes W will go down in history as the worst President ever, BUT McCain isn’t George Walker Bush. Hopefully he will be elected and put his country back on track!
By Tailgater
October 21, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
Gosh IF you are REPUBLICAN…. ask a question directly, and all one gets is avoidance !
said Joe the Plumber to Obama.
Said Obama to Joe “I am not a socialist just because I want to spread the wealth around.”
By Dusty
October 21, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this
Peter,
Yes, you have gone off the deep end.
You have gone back over 150 years to find something for which you can hate McCain. That’s sick.
Hate will kill you, Peter. The doctors say it ruins your health. You better go for a checkup.
By Disgusted
October 21, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this
Maker,
I just emerged from a long series of chemo treatments. The cancer is in remission. Sometimes the cure seems worse than the disease, but it can be worth it. Keep up your courage. I wish you well.
By Devastator
October 21, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
Right now, we have one last chance to strengthen our field operation and expand our reach even further.
This Friday, we’re making the very last, hard decisions about allocating our resources. And it will all come down to where we stand financially on Thursday at midnight.
We need to make decisions about strengthening our efforts in key battleground states — and identify opportunities for expansion.
You can decide where we fight — and how strong our team will be. Will you make a donation of $25 or more before the deadline?
I know it’s been a long campaign. And I know you’ve been asked to do a lot.
I hear you.
But right now, I’m asking you to remember what’s at stake for our country.
After 20 months of fighting to bring the change we need, we cannot hold back now. We need to dig deep because what we do — or don’t do — between now and Election Day will make all the difference.
Please make a donation of $25 or more before the deadline to expand the final map of battleground states and strengthen our field operation:
https://donate.barackobama.com/finaldeadline
I’d like to fight for votes in every corner of the country. But the reality is that we need to focus and redouble our efforts for the final push.
Thank you for making sure this campaign has the resources to compete in as many states as possible,
Barack
By Okay, Deal.
October 21, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
Disgusted, my wife is ending a three year long chemo/radiation/surgery nightmare. Her cancer is gone, but there’s not much left of her. It’s not just the toxins in the chemo infusions, or the radiation, but the drugs used to control the side effects. The pain killers, (percocets, xanax, laudinsomething.) it numbs you out till you’re a zombie.
She’ll be done around xmas, and we’re hoping she’ll be back 100 percent by spring.
That’s the plan anyway. It’s a crucible for the entire family. The fact is that the whole family gets cancer, if they choose to stay put and stick it out with the patient and try to remember that there are no wrong answers in chemo.
Chemo 08: It’s worth it.
It’s worth it.
By making
October 21, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
Disguted and Pro Hater Thanks for the uplifting comments. All and all I’m doing well coming to work and about to kick off my own business…I just spent 18 mos restoring a 100 yr old house. Hopefully I won’t need a liver for 10+ years…and then somehow be able to pay for the operation. I trust in God and take one day at a time.
And with this election, God bless America!
By Cornbread Fred
October 21, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
Mr. John Woodham, thank you for your action and involvement. Amendment 2 must not stand. The last thing I want is for my tax dollars to be diverted from schools to the likes of Walmart. Thanks to all of you who stuck to the topic today and had a rational discussion. Also thanks to those who didn’t and went on partisan rants and name-calling, I’m always up for some laughs! Good day, Jim!
By Churchill
October 21, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
OBAMA man tapes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK5TprmkgRw&feature=related
By Devastator
October 21, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this
There’s a candidate in Georgia who’s working to bring the change this country needs, and that candidate is Jim Martin. Get involved and help bring change now.
Jim Martin for Senate: Visit the website.Don’t wait until Election Day to support Martin. Get involved today to make sure Georgia has a strong senator to take our country in a new direction.
Thanks,
Obama for America
P.S. — To get involved with Obama for America in your community, visit your state page:
http://GA.barackobama.com
By Devastator
October 21, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this
ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.
The charges included costs for hotel and commercial flights for three daughters to join Palin to watch their father in a snowmobile race, and a trip to New York, where the governor attended a five-hour conference and stayed with 17-year-old Bristol for five days and four nights in a luxury hotel.
In all, Palin has charged the state $21,012 for her three daughters’ 64 one-way and 12 round-trip commercial flights since she took office in December 2006. In some other cases, she has charged the state for hotel rooms for the girls.
Alaska law does not specifically address expenses for a governor’s children. The law allows for payment of expenses for anyone conducting official state business.
By Hillbilly Deluxe
October 21, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this
You seldom go wrong voting against any amendment to the Georgia Constitution.
By Peter
October 21, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this
Hate ????????? Dusty……. I don’t hate McCain……
Who hates ???????
Maybe the Republican’s they seem to hate the poor, and seem to hate the fact all American’s need Health care !
By fearless fosdik
October 21, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this
By Aaron
October 21, 2008 4:25 PM
AARON… Such anger!
John Kerry did not commit treason, he simply testified to his views. Since when has ones views been determined to be treasonous?
By Devastator
October 21, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this
On Sunday, Barack was honored to receive the endorsement of General Colin Powell.
General Powell is one of the most widely-respected soldiers and statesmen of our time — a unifying figure who has defended our nation in uniform and worked closely with Republicans and Democrats throughout his public life.
As a prominent Republican — and a donor to John McCain’s primary campaign — General Powell forcefully condemned the negative tone of the McCain campaign, and crossed party lines to endorse Barack.
Watch the full video of General Powell’s endorsement and share it with your friends, especially your undecided friends.
As a former National Security Adviser to Ronald Reagan, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs under George H. W. Bush, and Secretary of State under George W. Bush, General Powell has a profound understanding of what will be required of the next Commander in Chief to keep us safe and restore our standing in the world.
In his endorsement, General Powell praised Barack’s steady approach to our nation’s financial crisis. He rejected the divisive attacks of the McCain campaign, and commended Barack for providing “a more inclusive, broader reach into the needs and aspirations of our people.”
General Powell’s endorsement is one of many from Republicans all across the nation — Americans who are tired of the divisive politics of the last eight years, and have come forward to say, like General Powell, “I’ll be voting for Senator Barack Obama.”
Watch and share General Powell’s endorsement today:
http://veterans.barackobama.com/CPvideo
This campaign is built on the belief that all Americans of all backgrounds and every party share a stake in our common future.
By coming together, we can make history and bring the change we need to our nation.
Thank you for all you do,
Republicans for Obama
By Chad Harris
October 21, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this
Gimme an “S” Gimme an “A”
Saayruhhh Saayruh. Keep her on camera keep her on the stump. She is one of the Greatest gifts you’ve given the Obama campaign and the downticket. She is a metaphor for how stupid your base is and how moronic the choice is for someone with four recurrent melanomas, the latest one with a metastatic AJCC/UICC Class III(A, B, or C we don’t know because he refuses to tell us).
Here’s the dilemma the Wingnuts have created. Just when you think they can’t outdo themselves, they manage.
There is a close race this week for the biggest moron.
1) Michelle Bachman who has placed her Wisconsin race in play.
2) Moron Palin who knows she is so dumb doing a full press conference would destoy her again so she doesn’t and cann’[t toak about any issues, so she breaths ignorance about Obama when Palin couldn’t get a job at the Cambridge, Mass. McDonald’s.
And I want to urge all you polished, sophisticated affluent power brokers like Jim Wooten, Dick Williams, What end’s up Handel, Eric Johnson—
Keep up the Robocalls spewing taxes, Barach’s a commie; Barach’s a socialist, and Barach’s a terrorist. Your imbecile strategy is helping us to crush you in 2 weeks so keep it up; and of course you will.
Get as many Georgia members of the House and Senate who are Republicans on as many talk shows as possible—guys like Kingtston or the morons from Marietta in the State House like Franklin. They get us votes and they get us votes in Georgia.
Keep Palin’s mouth going 24X7
Keep on Keepin’ On.
Stop Embargoing Palin. Keep flacks Chris Evans and Tracy Schmidt and the other Schmidt away and let Sayruh be Sayruh.
1) She is killing you so keep her going. 2) She has as much chance of running and winning in 2012 as Britney Spears so keep her going. You chose her, so keep her going.
And thanks very much for the fantastic f help. You’ll get nowhere with litigation nationally—you may win the 3 judge panel tomorrow because all of them are Republican hacks, as well as Edmondson who appointed them, but it’s not going to make any difference nationally.
Keep wasting your money and time.
By GayGrayGeek
October 21, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this
DustBuster - if anyone should know how “hate” can tear one’s life apart, your hatred for Obama and all things Not-Republican’t should be a great demonstration for the class.
By Ed
October 22, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
Finally I’ve found some common ground with Jim Wooten! I’ve already voted against those amendments. You should always raise a red flag when the legislature wants to modify the state constitution.
By MDR
October 22, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
republican are just like john mccane they still do not get it i voted no on all three
By Churchill's Mom
October 22, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this
Dusty???????????
By John
October 22, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
This proud Republican would like to make two points this morning:
Real Republicans, those who are not “mavericks” and/or those who did not see the need to “take on the bosses in our party”. tried to warn you about McCain and Palin. If we had a Romney/Huckabee ticket today, I am certain things would be quite different. Could there be a more credible economic/business voice than Mitt Romney?
Don’t pour your campaign contribution into a lost presidential cause but send the money to the campaigns of other Republican candidates.
You see the same early voting lines I see every night on television. Doesn’t look like lines of Republicans to me. We MUST vote to save down ticket Republicans.
We have lost the presidency and I will never forgive Republicans who bought this “maverick” bull and will never forgive whoever had the bright idea that the best way to utilize the vice-presidential nominee was to ignore the free media. No matter how biased, free is free, it is beyond stupid to allow the democrats to appear unchallenged on network after network.
By swolf
October 22, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
Lord have mercy…stop the world!!! I actually agree with Wooten on something! Simply amazing….and on this one he’s simply RIGHT.
By Ross
October 24, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this
Thank God the Republicans will soon be gone!
Every Republican administration in our history has blasted the economy into pulp. They are supposed to be good for business - not so - they are horrible for business, for workers, for bosses, for everyone.
They used to stand for ideas - now every one you see on the tube or online is a blithering idiot who wouldn’t know a real idea from a mood ring.
They once stood for circumspection and restraint - now they’ve destroyed most of Wall Street, have a list of scandals to their name that would make Nero blush, and have trashed the very Constitution and turned the country into a place where you can’t buy a Sudafed without government ID.
Starting with Reagan, they’ve massively increased the role of government in everyone’s day to day life, not to say his or her ability to make plans based on solid progress rather than stepping around the blasted ruins of a once strong economy and progress-minded society.
They’ve proven again that we can’t win a war against people in pajamas. We fight wars on everything - drugs, hippies, bathtub rings, cancer, bad calls by referees - and lose them all. Our military is in a shambles. Money is wasted on high-tech junk that promptly fails in the field. We bankrupt ourselves just so that Martin, Boeing, and GE can keep turning that garbage out. Meanwhile, our own Vice can’t go hunting without shooting his friend in the face.
As the final punctuation to this miserable record, they trot out a spoiled brat who finished fourth from last in his Academy class, a petulant and erratic power-monger with no ideas and no character, who cooperated with his captors while his fellow airman gave name rank and SN, and he picks a bubble-head who is not qualified to run a Wal-Mart.
No jobs, no money, no progress, no hope - nothing but stupid bucolic vitriol and idiotic platitudes. That’s the modern Republican way. Hate and greed as a way of life.
Soon it will all be gone, and for the first time in my adult life I’ll be able to breathe good, clean American air, unfouled by Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gingerich, DeLay, and the whole lot of criminal traitorous b******* I’ve watch march in and out of Washington.
Good GD riddance!
-drl
By Ross
October 24, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this
Thank God the Republicans will soon be gone!
Every Republican administration in our history has blasted the economy into pulp. They are supposed to be good for business - not so - they are horrible for business, for workers, for bosses, for everyone.
They used to stand for ideas - now every one you see on the tube or online is a blithering idiot who wouldn’t know a real idea from a mood ring.
They once stood for circumspection and restraint - now they’ve destroyed most of Wall Street, have a list of scandals to their name that would make Nero blush, and have trashed the very Constitution and turned the country into a place where you can’t buy a Sudafed without government ID.
Starting with Reagan, they’ve massively increased the role of government in everyone’s day to day life, not to say his or her ability to make plans based on solid progress rather than stepping around the blasted ruins of a once strong economy and progress-minded society.
They’ve proven again that we can’t win a war against people in pajamas. We fight wars on everything - drugs, hippies, bathtub rings, cancer, bad calls by referees - and lose them all. Our military is in a shambles. Money is wasted on high-tech junk that promptly fails in the field. We bankrupt ourselves just so that Martin, Boeing, and GE can keep turning that garbage out. Meanwhile, our own Vice can’t go hunting without shooting his friend in the face.
As the final punctuation to this miserable record, they trot out a spoiled brat who finished fourth from last in his Academy class, a petulant and erratic power-monger with no ideas and no character, who cooperated with his captors while his fellow airman gave name rank and SN, and he picks a bubble-head who is not qualified to run a Wal-Mart.
No jobs, no money, no progress, no hope - nothing but stupid bucolic vitriol and idiotic platitudes. That’s the modern Republican way. Hate and greed as a way of life.
Soon it will all be gone, and for the first time in my adult life I’ll be able to breathe good, clean American air, unfouled by Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gingerich, DeLay, and the whole lot of criminal traitorous b******* I’ve watch march in and out of Washington.
Good GD riddance!
-drl