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The Thinking Right blog is often attacked by liberal hackers polishing their hurtful invective on the well-informed, kind and intelligent conservatives who gather here to share ideas and insights on how to create a stronger and better America. It’s brutal sometimes. The abuse heaped by frightened liberals on my conservative brethren and sisteren causes the genial host to wince — until, lo and behold, the good conservative Dusty or one of her many conservative friends on the blog rises up to smite them down with an irrefutable truth incisively delivered.

But now I’m left to wonder: Which of liberal contributors here might have been the son of the Democratic state legislator in Tennessee who hacked the e-mail account of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin? Oh, I have suspicions but, as is the predisposition to fairness that is the hallmark of conservatives, I’ll let justice run its course.

But there he was in federal court in Knoxville, Tenn., young David Kernell, 20, son of veteran Tennessee Democratic lawmaker Mike Kernell of Memphis, accused of being the Palin hacker.

Oh, Democrats said in response to the invasion of Palin’s privacy, the hacker was most likely some non-political campus computer geek. They were part right. Kernell is an economics student at the University of Tennessee, who incidentally can profess his loyalty to the Tennessee Volunteers by wearing the orange jump suit taxpayers provide to those who rob the privacy of others.

The alleged hacker’s father is chairman of the Government Operations Committee in the Tennessee House of Representatives.

Don’t look for him here, though, if indeed he ever was one of the Democratic partisans who visited Thinking Right. Part of the judge’s order is that he cannot own a computer and his Internet usage is limited to checking e-mails and doing class work.

So our homework assignment for the next class is to find the missing blogname on Thinking Right. Could it be that one of our liberal contributors was so frustrated by the strengths of arguments offered by intelligent and well-prepared conservatives here that he was driven to dirty tricks directed against our beloved Sarah? Who’s not here today and possibly dressed in orange and banned from participating, not by the genial host, but by order of the court?

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By Dire P's and Q's

October 8, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

God, I loved the tone of this piece. Bravo, Wooten, U+I R good 4 each other.

You soared this evening in the rare rain, as dusk approaches, in the wake of the McCain/Obama debates, where a new president was crowned.

Speak to us, sir. We listen well. Our privates are engorged and tingly….wait, that’s the church lady…sorry, sometimes I hack too….

jklol

By BS Aplenty

October 8, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

I’ll take a stab at Hillbilly Ragger. Certainly places him in the geography of our good neighbors to the north.

When do we get the answer?

By @@

October 8, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Dang Jim, ironically you sound like Captain Freedom. I’m a big fan of his too.

There was this one liberal poster at Luckovich’s……called himself “One Voice” or “Majority Voice of Dissent” — something like that. Anyhoo he tracked all the conservatives to RW’s blog where he confessed to having obtained access to our online info, financial and everthin’. Temporarily unnerving, but nothing came of it so he was all bark and no bite.

Then there was “the bathtub crew” who emulated a really nice guy’s (independent) father who had passed away. The poser posted as though he was the deceased talking to his son from the grave. Buff had notified everyone on the board over there because he considered them friends who may have wanted to know. One of those he considered a friend was of the liberal persuasion and in the tub with the crew. I won’t mention her name. She gets really……really mad when I do.

It’s really hard for me to believe that there are people like ^^^ those and young David who would put a party win over the individual privacy rights of their fellow man or woman.

What the hey! I’ve learned a lot since I started blogging. Some of it valuable……..some of it disposable.

Thanks for your columns Jim. I really do enjoy ‘em. Your sarcasm is that of a confident conservative.

By Once is not Enough

October 8, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

Gadszikes! I hate @@.

U R in 4 a lesson, fatah chick.

America is no longer U. U R some sort of alien POS.

Now git! There’s no room in America 4 the haters like @@.

‘muff said.

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

Woo, Jim, I am running around like a pouter pigeon with pride after your kind comments. I shall discard the number and post office picture offered me by liberals. Onward and upward for conservatives! YES!!

I’m keeping a sharp eye out for missing lib posters who had a Tennessee accent. He must have been from NORTHERN Tennessee, somewhere over in Gore’s territory. GORE? Ah hah!!

By AmVet

October 8, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Never, in my life have I seen such a repugnant ploy from an otherwise professional writer who has traveled the country and world, served his country in uniform and written for this major publication for many years.

All in the name of far-fetched, mean-spirited, political gamesmanship.

Truly, Jim this is the absolute depths of yellow journalism, depravity and desperation in a newspaper column.

To single out as a standard bearer of righteous “conservative” values, someone who has frequently disparaged others military service, their children’s service and their very patriotism to this nation is in one word - shameful.

Is nothing repulsive to you anymore? Is every slur and untruth OK just because you are joined at the political hip with someone?

And for you, as the moderator, to stoop to this level is shocking.

I will continue to support your right to say what you wish, but I am truly sorry to witness this inexcusable lack of integrity, Mr. Wooten.

I really am…

By Captain Freedom

October 8, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

Wow. THE Captain just had an out of body experience of a sort. As @@ pointed out, the first two grafs of Wooten’s post were straight out of THE Captain’s Guide on Fighting Terrorists and Other Liberals in the Internet Tubes: A Primer on the 101st Fighting Keyboardist Brigade Technique.

But it was impossible, saith THE Captain. For as this post was appearing, THE Captain was laying to rest the debate on the prevous column’s blog, and He knew He had not written the column above.

Then it dawned on THE Captain. Alerted by Dusty’s persistent accusations of multiple name posting, the Truth became clear.

Jim Wooten is THE Captain, and He is Jim Wooten.

This explains why THE Captain puts such effort into carrying Wooten’s blog on His Broad Shoulders and why THE Captain often outshines His Host (which word now takes on deeper meaning, parasitically parenthetically speaking). For if THE Host is indeed THE Captain, then there is no outshining, merely reflective and refractive glory mirrored between Twin Minds of True Belief.

THE Captain has one burning question, however. Where shall He go to pick up the checks that have been written to this imaginary Wooten character?

By GOPs got to go

October 8, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

What a good belly laugh there Wooten. Our poor Sarah?

And the Swiffer is just about to blow a gasket she is so proud. Between Bookman’s Ice cream piece and you she will need some CPR soon.

HHHHAAAA. Our poor Sarah…………

By @@

October 8, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

Gadszikes! I hate @@.

But Polly, I’ve always been somewhat fond of you.

What is it about me that irritates you so?

I haven’t had much time to read your posts to proclaim them funny. For that I apologize. Captain Freedom’s are infrequent and draw attention. Yours are sometimes TOO frequent to appreciate.

I have a job, and bloggin’ ain’t it.

I’ll try harder to notice you since failing to do so causes the wheels to come off your “Straight Man Express”.

By GOPs got to go

October 8, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

Well-informed, kind and intelligent conservatives who gather here to share ideas and insights on how to create a stronger and better America. Now does this accurately describe Management, Budwiser, Andy, Communist AJC? …………. Yes they share their ideas daily about how to create a whiter and more conservative America. You should be very proud of your “following” Wooten.

You should be more concerned about your Wall Street Pals than a college kid in Tennessee.

Loved the new video of your poor widdle Sarah firing her Machine Gun. And big, bad meannie Katie asking poor widdle Sarah a question she had not memorized an answer to. Shame on Katie and Charlie both.

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

Jim W,

Did you have something in your column that’s been deleted? Otherwise I can’t see what has Blowhard’s panties in such a wad that he’s roaming all over the AJC alerting everyone to something supposedly vile here. Unless you’ve secretly sent him out on a mission to gain traffic. If that’s the case, good job!

I will offer that the Palin email snoop didn’t really hack anything and needed no particular computer skills to do what was done. A case could be made that using a single proxy server means the “hacker” wasn’t particularly skilled.

By Original Rick

October 8, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

Realize this: there is a vast difference between true Goldwater Republicans (for whom I do have respect) and the Bush/Cheney/Rove Neocon Repubs that have controlled our country for thew past 12 or so years. One group is honorable; the other disgusting.

And that being said: SHAME on any of you who are supporting the disgusting tactics used now by the Repub party. There is nothing but Shame on your heads.

I do hope it is true the the Secret Service is investigating the “Kill Him” shout-out at Our Dear Sarah’s rally in Florida. She is inciting violence and is dangerous.

And, yes. the kid deserves whatever punishment is meted out to him for hacking Our Dear Sarah’s emails.

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

Wasn’t me. Mr. Snarky has a job, (unlike most of the conservative posters on this site and Bookman’s) and doesn’t have the time or inclination for hacking Palin’s yahoo account. I can’t imagine it would make for interesting reading anyway, if she writes as poorly as she speaks. Since McCain doesn’t use the internets he’s unhackable which is good for him so there’s no electronic paper trail for his malfeasance.

By Once is not Enough

October 8, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

Gee, RW sure seems 2 know alot about hacking and stuff. I wonder if he ever probed my hard drive. Gee, I wonder what he and Wooten found.

Lots of artwork from my wife….some mozart websites…..

BWA!!!!

Suckers.

By AmVet

October 8, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

The endless summer of neo-con misery has turned in the autumn of their political lives.

Stick a fork in these fake conservatives. They are done. And that includes you ballerina…

WASHINGTON (CNN) — In the face of an economy in crisis and a deeply unpopular president, some analysts believe the situation is ripe to give Democrats a 60-seat filibuster-proof majority in the Senate in November.

It’s “the perfect storm,” said Stuart Rothenberg, editor of the nonpartisan Rothenberg Political Report. “You’ve got Republican voters angry at Republicans, many Americans just petrified about the future…wanting change. And right now change appears to be coming in the form of Democrats.”

Of the 35 Senate seats on the line this year, 23 are held by Republicans. Five Republican senators are retiring: Pete Domenici of New Mexico, Wayne Allard of Colorado, John Warner of Virginia, Larry Craig of Idaho and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska.

Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, said Democrats have a good shot at reaching a 60-seat majority in November, a possibility he all but ruled out earlier this year.

“The fundamentals of this election year could not be more Democratic,” Sabato said. “You’ve got a terrible economy, a deeply unpopular president and an unpopular war. You put those elements together and it’s going to produce a Democratic victory. … The only question is, what size?”

A recent CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey found that Americans blame Republicans by a 2 to 1 ratio over Democrats for the financial meltdown.

Forty-seven percent of those questioned found Republicans more responsible for the problems facing the financial institutions; 24 percent said Democrats were more responsible.

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Original Rick,

I too would like to see the Secret Service nab the people yelling things like terrorist or kill him at Palin and McCain appearances.

I’d like to see the number on their moveon.org membership card and a listing of their koz kid user names.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 8, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

Aahhh, yes, the deepening mystery.

Mr. Wooten was kind enough to spin us a scary, frightful tale on this dark and stormy night, fess up, how many of you pinkos cut the lights on after reading this?

But yet we are left wondering, how much longer will Mr. Wooten string us along, when will we get the answer that we are all waiting on, the big question that is burning in the back of everybody’s mind right now, that being; WTF is DimWet freaking out about?

Do tell us please, hahahaha.

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

It’s a sign of Jim’s early onset dementia that he actually thinks his blog is that popular that everone, including the heroic hacker, is on it. Either that or he’s just being facetious…which seems so unlike him.

Don’t worry kid, Barack will pardon you. :)

By Troll Alert

October 8, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

Dire Ps and Qs, you’re not fooling anyone PoFo!!

By Jen

October 8, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

This blog is obviously a joke. I can’t believe you all don’t see that….it’s saying the sky is green and the grass is blue.

By Once is not Enough

October 8, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

@@, you fell for it. I was just kidding. And you not only read it, but you felt compelled to respond. I was merely blogging like a conservative just to show you how pathetic you are.

That’s the logic you have employed for years, and now, you have lost America, and guess what, Fat fat? we dont care.

get lost.

I speet on you. KWEEK…THWOOP!

ew

moron.

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

It’s a sign of Jim’s early onset dementia that he actually thinks his blog is that popular that everone, including the heroic hacker, is on it. Either that or he’s just being facetious…which seems so unlike him.

Don’t worry kid, Barack will pardon you. :)

By Abomi Nation

October 8, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

What a truly weird story Jim, I like it.

Your theory here is wonderful. Of course this theory of yours has has implications for Sara Palin.

Applying your theory to Palin this means all of the under aged pregnant girls in Alaska were all impregnated by the same boy that knocked up Palin’s daughter. Thats kinda gross.

What ever happened to traditional family values? Wow.

By Political Forskin

October 8, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Alright! Okay! I admit it! It was me. I did it! I hacked into Palin’s emails.

And I’m glad I did it! And I’d do it again!! It’s not fair that Palin got all that national worship. I deserve to be the veep or the prez or even the king. ME! ME!!

I wanted to take over the country from my keyboard. And I woulda got away with it too, if it hadn’t been for Wooten and his P-hole conservative friends.

What a world.

PS. I meant A-hole.

By Obama Man

October 8, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

I did not know that Dusty was a female. I thought that she was an insecure white man. Now I understand the love for Ms. Sarah. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

By AmVet

October 8, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

Oh well, I got the once-banned troll of trolls, Anduhng to bite.

I too would like to see the Secret Service nab the people yelling…

Of course. Being a Nazi, you would.

Just like the “good Germans”, neo-cons have remained silent in the face of their own evil.

So, as willing slaves to their imperious bushmaster regime, reminiscent of the Third Reich, they lasted a very brief but deadly time, and then were never heard from again.

Enjoy the upcoming slaughter, cowards.

The rest of us are certainly going to…

By TN Gelding

October 8, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

Your beloved Sarah? You’ve got to be kidding. Weren’t you one of the ones saying Barry was too inexperienced and was nothing but a celebrity? Alaska has fewer than 700,000 residents and Wasilla fewer than 7,000.

Between earmarks and oil we purchase we’re funding their state government.

Heil Sarah!

By @@

October 8, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

@@, you fell for it. I was just kidding. And you not only read it, but you felt compelled to respond.

And you were pleased enough to respond in turn.

Do you see now how essential I am to your happiness?

You’ve always needed a friend even if it’s only a blog friend.

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

Actually, I’m working on hacking Bristol’s gmail account right now. I want to find out which of the Jonas brothers is her favorite. Oh and if you’re with the FBI, I’m just kidding.

By Road Scholar

October 8, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

Would the orange jumpsuits be apprapoh (sp) for the republican leaders of the Wall Street Companies that need the government’s bailout? or perhaps the privatized war at all cost ( and no citizen sacrifice and finacial plan) leadrship influencing the White House and McCain?

Before you get all excited about your whine session, let me offer a suggestion. Why not hold a convention to select the Conservative Blogger of the Year! You definitely have some exceptional nominees. Andy (never a coherent thought) would have to be right up there. Dusty, while I appreciate the time effort and thought that you put into your blogs, you unfortunately do not have a chance of winning- too many facts. You could hold it at an appropriate location….say at Hartsfield Airport in the Men’s room!

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this

Actually, I’m working on hacking Bristol’s gmail account right now. I want to find out which of the Jonas brothers is her favorite. Oh and if you’re with the FBI, I’m just kidding.

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

Notice how nobody has hacked any of the Democratic politicians’ accounts. (Of course, they aren’t using yahoo email to conduct state business on the sly.) That’s because nobody under the age of 30 who can read and write (much less hack an email account) is a republican. The future is blue and Wooten represents the past.

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

Yelling out kill him is illegal and you don’t need to be a Naazi to nab the leftist Moby that’s doing it to try to make Palin look bad.

By Abomi Nation

October 8, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

The McCain campaign originally wanted to go with their “Desperate Candidate” plan.

Like Bree on “Desperate Housewives,” Sara Palin was going to fake a pregnancy to hide the fact that her under age unmarried daughter was actually the one having the baby. They were going to hide the poor girl out in Alaska until she had the baby then Sara Palin was going to raise it as her own. Family values intact! Palin even started wearing one of those fake baby bellies to prepare.

They later cancelled the plan when it was determined that Palin would have to wear the 7 month baby belly right away. People might also have caught on since the Desperate Housewives fake baby episode aired recently. Maybe not. We’ll never know.

Wow. McCain is desperate.

By Truth

October 8, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

Get’em Jim. And Mr Snarky… As an IT professional under the age of 30, I disagree!

By AmVet

October 8, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

Ricky, the reason that those people yelled those vile things were due to holes in the fossil record!

Or is it wobbles in the earth’s orbit?

Variations in the sun’s temperature?

Cow flatulence?

Just go sell stupid elsewhere Herr Richard die Primaballerina…

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

Truth…okay, there may be a few young right wingers in the red states. Polls of the younger generation do show strong democratic leanings, contrasting with say the 80’s when a lot of younger people went for the conservative message. This is not a surprise, given the failure on many fronts of bush and his ilk.

By getalife

October 8, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this

crusty the clown?

My goodmess, I had you all wrong Jim.

You write parody.

I thought you were serious in your drivel.

My bad.

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

You seem even more out of sorts than usual today. Perhaps you should take a break before you pop a vessel.

Somebody certainly struck a nerve with you today. hmmmmmm….who was that again?

Oh yea, it was JW. How odd. Do you have some relatives in Tennessee?

By Commander Guy

October 8, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this

Okay, when I saw this I was sure that someone (captain underpants?) had hacked Wooten’s blog. Seriously, this could not have come from Wooten, it is too extreme to be successful as parody. It could have worked until it went off the deep end and praised Dustball.

Then again, if it is real Wooten, mark it down as the moment when, like Mavericky McCain selecting the Dimwit from Wasilla, Jim decided that carrying around the honor and dignity he had accrued over a long career became too much of a burden, and he decided to chuck it all for an easier life.

Prediction: the young “hacker” will take a community service slap on the wrist just to make it all go away. The prosecutors have no case and they know it, but they need to put on a show for the yahoos like Dim Jim and his faithful little dog, dusty.

By AmVet

October 8, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

No, ballerina, I am not from the Moron Belt.

Funny you should mention Tennessee though.

Isn’t that where one of your “conservative” cousins shot up a bunch of liberals, killing a few, at a children’s play recently?

While you silently applauded him, Herr Richard die Primaballerina von Norcross?

Vote Palin, Ricky!

By Mrs.Godzilla

October 8, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this

Which e-mail account got hacked?

The one she was supposed to be using for government business?

Or one of the two private accounts she has used for government business that include lot’s of cc’s to the first dude?

The “authorities” were none to happy with George and Tom and John and Ben either.

Smells like tea in here…..

By Babylon Liberal Moron

October 8, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

Yes they share their ideas daily about how to create a whiter and more conservative America.

GOP whiner at 5:38PM: Conservative, yes, white, put up or shut up on that accusation from ANY Conservative on this blog. I get so sick and TIRED of reading you liberals’ lies and making things up to further your left wing socialist agenda. Now save your face here and show how any Con here has promoted a whiter America. And don’t give me that liberal CRAP about not voting for Obama. Not wanting a socialist in office has NOTHING to do with race, you pathetic cretin.

By ron

October 8, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this

Where’s Ragnar the Horrible?

By Smell the baloney

October 8, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this

“liberal hackers polishing their hurtful invective on the well-informed, kind and intelligent conservatives who gather here to share ideas and insights on how to create a stronger and better America”

That’s ridiculous on a bunch of different levels. 1.) it’s hacking only if you bypass the front end provided for comments by some backdoor means 2.) many of your posters believe that some of the most ridiculous lies I’ve ever seen are the gospel truth; after all, conservatives believe that liberals lie all the time and refuse to believe that conservatives lie to each other. The McCain campaign and the flood of slanderous, lying emails attacking Obama should have shown anyone with a shred of sense otherwise 3.) kindness is a rare commodity around here; this is one of the most bilious boards I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen plenty 4.) intelligence is here in plenty, but so is stupidity 5.) conservatives; well, duh 6.) sharing insights is optional; bashing all thing opposed to one’s own side is the main reason to be here, no matter what side you’re on. Correction of the misguided is honestly a major theme here, but it’s always the other person who’s misguided 7.) as for creating a stronger and better America, that’s what liberals and moderates want, too; they just think conservatives are going about it the wrong way

By Commander Guy

October 8, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

Even David Brooks has gone for “That One”.

David Brooks spoke frankly about the presidential and vice presidential candidates Monday afternoon, calling Sarah Palin a “fatal cancer to the Republican party” but describing John McCain and Barack Obama as “the two best candidates we’ve had in a long time.”

In an interview with The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg at New York’s Le Cirque restaurant to unveil that magazine’s redesign, Brooks decried Palin’s anti-intellectualism and compared her to President Bush in that regard:

[Sarah Palin] represents a fatal cancer to the Republican party. When I first started in journalism, I worked at the National Review for Bill Buckley. And Buckley famously said he’d rather be ruled by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty. But he didn’t think those were the only two options. He thought it was important to have people on the conservative side who celebrated ideas, who celebrated learning. And his whole life was based on that, and that was also true for a lot of the other conservatives in the Reagan era. Reagan had an immense faith in the power of ideas. But there has been a counter, more populist tradition, which is not only to scorn liberal ideas but to scorn ideas entirely. And I’m afraid that Sarah Palin has those prejudices. I think President Bush has those prejudices.

Brooks praised Palin’s natural political talent, but said she is “absolutely not” ready to be president or vice president. He explained, “The more I follow politicians, the more I think experience matters, the ability to have a template of things in your mind that you can refer to on the spot, because believe me, once in office there’s no time to think or make decisions.”

The New York Times columnist also said that the “great virtue” of Palin’s counterpart, Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, is that he is anything but a “yes man.”

Brooks also spent time praising Obama’s intellect and skills in social perception, telling two stories of his interactions with Obama that left him “dazzled”:

Obama has the great intellect. I was interviewing Obama a couple years ago, and I’m getting nowhere with the interview, it’s late in the night, he’s on the phone, walking off the Senate floor, he’s cranky. Out of the blue I say, ‘Ever read a guy named Reinhold Niebuhr?’ And he says, ‘Yeah.’ So i say, ‘What did Niebuhr mean to you?’ For the next 20 minutes, he gave me a perfect description of Reinhold Niebuhr’s thought, which is a very subtle thought process based on the idea that you have to use power while it corrupts you. And I was dazzled, I felt the tingle up my knee as Chris Matthews would say.

And the other thing that does separate Obama from just a pure intellectual: he has tremendous powers of social perception. And this is why he’s a politician, not an academic. A couple of years ago, I was writing columns attacking the Republican congress for spending too much money. And I throw in a few sentences attacking the Democrats to make myself feel better. And one morning I get an email from Obama saying, ‘David, if you wanna attack us, fine, but you’re only throwing in those sentences to make yourself feel better.’ And it was a perfect description of what was going through my mind. And everybody who knows Obama all have these stories to tell about his capacity for social perception.

Brooks predicted an Obama victory by nine points. Wooten is one of the last holdouts. And his little dog dusty, too.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 8, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

Good evening all. Unfortunately I fear none of our moonbats will be subject to judicial restriction, and we will continue to see the epithets every day. That is the cost of associating with leftists.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 8, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this

Dear Commander @ 7:46, I would broadly disagree with Mr. Brooks, and would describe both candidates as the least competent either party has featured since 1980 (D) and 1976 (R). As counterpoint, I would offer my favorite Obama supporter discussing Sarah the Magnificent.

By Commander Guy

October 8, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

Wrong Ragweed…the epithets are the price you pay for not knowing your a55 from your elbow.

Oh, but you know your Ayn Rand. My 12-year old knows her Harry Potter just as well, but has the wit to recognize it as adolescent fantasy fiction. Whither your awakening, Ragnar?

Hey Wooten…is your pal and “well-informed, kind and intelligent conservative” time for the truth another exemplar of your cabal?

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 8, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this

Dear Commander @ 7:57, you argued in character. One could have forecast the scintillating content.

By Commander Guy

October 8, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this

Rag

Your admiration of Paglia falls right in line with your arrested adolescence in re: Ayn Rand. Paglia’s contrarian-feminist schtick played out years ago, about the time Madonna lost any and all relevance (which was about 15 minutes after someone thought she had any). My favorite description of Camille is “Victor Davis Hanson in heels”. It was not intended as compliment, though I’d be unsurprised to discover that you find Victor Spartacus to be genius, too.

Time to grow up, fella.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 8, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

Commander, I regret to advise you bore me - your posts, infected by ad hominem but not by responsive thought, are insufficient to hold my interest. Have a pleasant evening.

By Babylon Liberal Moron

October 8, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

Listening to the liberals on this blog pitch a tent fit about what Neocons post here is laughable. Not one of them corrects the vitriol from their fellow leftist friends, but when a Neocon lashes out, there is hell to pay. It’s just so typical and to be expected of the hypocritical cheese & whine club of left wingnut liberal Democrats in this nation. They can sure sling it though, can’t they?

By Commander Guy

October 8, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

Thus Ragnar, unable to deny the truth, slinks away.

Get used to it, GOPers.

By lrd

October 8, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

Jim, why is then that when Democrats ask questions such as why McCain mentions yet more socialism arounde the govt now paying for peoples mortgages and renegotiating loans, that none of the good ole gopr’s answer the question? Why is your Presidential candidate for Socialism?

By Jason

October 8, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this

lrd:

That’s a good question. Special circumstances require special actions. A lot of Conservatives support this bail out, just like they supported corporate bail outs of previous days to keep jobs and companies afloat. With that said, our current situation is partially if not more responsible by Barney Frank socialism of giving cheap loans to people who couldn’t really afford them long term due to a shady credit history or financial background. You know, that fairness thing and all that socialist liberals are always touting..and buying votes with:

By STEVEN A. HOLMES Published: September 30, 1999 The New York Times

In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.

The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets — including the New York metropolitan region — will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.

Fannie Mae, the nation’s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.

In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies have been pressing Fannie Mae to help them make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers. These borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings are not good enough to qualify for conventional loans, can only get loans from finance companies that charge much higher interest rates — anywhere from three to four percentage points higher than conventional loans.

And from 2003 and the NYT and Barney Frank—what is in that old dude’s mouth anyway, a sock??:

“These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

By Jen

October 8, 2008 8:51 PM | Link to this

What is a tent fit? Is it a fit designed to provide shelter for all those it covers?

By lrd

October 8, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

Jason, I understand that certain times may indeed drive certain actions, but do we bail out peoples 2nd mortgages and vacation houses? And what about us folks who have a solid mortgage, do not carry debt and have done the right thing? Why should we be penalized by fools who did foolish things?

(Placing all blame on Fred and Fannie seem a bit farfetched. They were not the ones signing the papers, not the ones selling the loans to folks… I believe trying to take the individuals and their descisions out of the equation is in essence saying no on should be held responsible for their own actions)

By AnonyMoose

October 8, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

What makes Wooten think that someone in Memphis is reading his blog? Don’t they have their own newspaper there? Jim, I know it is hard to accept, but you’re just not national.

By JimJr.

October 8, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

Thanks W
““A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death.”” –Martin Luther King, Jr. One day in Iraq OR 84 new elementary schools. One day in Iraq OR 12, 478 elementary school teachers One day in Iraq OR 95, 364 Head Start places for children One day in Iraq OR 1, 153,846 children with free school lunches

By TN Gelding

October 8, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this

Jason

October 8, 2008 8:50 PM

More recently, Barney defends himself.

By SayNo2McCain

October 8, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

Wooten,

This is the craziest thing you have written all week.

I have a feeling that until NOV 4th, it will just get crazier.

After Obama is elected, you will just loose your mind completely.

By GayGrayGeek

October 8, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

Wow. What a pitiful piece of “journalism”, Jim. Simply pitiful.

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

Well, things are still buzzing here. Liberals, as always, spread their fragile impositions. Spreading what little joy they have on wings like those of Icarus, who fell ksplat as soon as the sun melted the wax. The wax that held his homemade wings together. Yep a nose dive.

Get the feeling, libs? Feel the melting wax as you do the political freefall? YOU WILL.

Ragnar,7:55

Thanks for the link to Paglia. Her description of McCain’s bravery and ethics was the best I have read. I wish more people could understand the strong will and morality that rests within McCain.

Alas, libs have no understanding or appreciation of such dedication. They choose the butterfly when you need an eagle.

Commander Guy,@ anytime

You couldn’t “command” a game of marbles. First, you lost your marbles long ago. Second, no one would play games with a sorehead. Third, David Brooks went to work at the NYT and he hasn’t been the same since. His leftiness is only a temporary malady. He will vote for McCain and not the butterfly.

Question: Do you have an identical twin in Tennessee?

By Jason

October 8, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

lrd: “Jason, I understand that certain times may indeed drive certain actions, but do we bail out peoples 2nd mortgages and vacation houses?”

Repeat this comment I made over and over until it sinks in:

”..our current situation is partially if not more responsible by Barney Frank socialism of giving cheap loans to people who couldn’t really afford them long term due to a shady credit history or financial background.

I hardly find second or weekend vacation home owners falling in that category above.

TN: “Barney defends himself”

I like the first comment the best there by a reader:

Thank you, Sam, for a very good article. Can you please explain to me why Rep. Frank is still in office?

best regards,

Janelle

Amen Janelle. But to answer your question, he’s a Democrat. Democrats NEVER accept responsibility for failures of ftheir political agendas. EVER.

By Jason

October 8, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

Do any of you liberals ever actually read posts from right-wingers and comprehend them or do you people just react emotionally and completely let what was posted go over your head, let alone the point? I cannot tell you how many times I have said the word “some” or “part” or other language that hardly says “ALL” only to see some liberal come back with “saying that ALL of point X is to blame is a stretch.” Grow up, liberal children.

By GayGrayGeek

October 8, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this

Jim, I take it Jason’s evening-long rants are examples of the “intelligent and well-prepared conservatives” you feel are being So Put Upon by simple truths and demonstrable facts presented by me and my fellow libs?

Pitiful. Simply pitiful. It would be hilariously humourous if it weren’t so painfully pitiful.

By Hillbilly Deluxe

October 8, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this

Since O. J. is in jail he can’t hunt for the missing blogger. We may never find the answer to this mystery.

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

My goodness, one thing is painfully clear today. LIBERALS DO NOT HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR.

Jim Wooten wrote a de’lite’ful piece to perk up the middle of the week. He made us smile over the possibility of a convicted college kid posting on Thinking Right.

So liberals act like they had been sentenced to the black hole of Calcutta and dosed with castor oil. Rants rumbled and bumbled.

Shhh…. don’t tell anybody. They already know. Liberals do not have a SENSE OF HUMOR.

By GaLiberal

October 8, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

Moron Jim said: But now I’m left to wonder: Which of liberal contributors here might have been the son of the Democratic state legislator in Tennessee who hacked the e-mail account of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin?

What Moron Jim fails to acknowledge is this person has only been charged with this “crime.” Like a good Rethuglicon, Moron Jim ignores Constitutional niceties like innocent until proven guilty.’ Hell, this person hasn’t even had a trial and Moron Jim has already tarred and feathered him as guilty. Moron Jim has declared himself Judge, Jury, and Executioner.

Secondly there Moron Jim, no matter how you spin this and the lies you tell (because that’s all you Rethuglicons know how to do), this person was not part of some vast “Left Wing Conspiracy” to smear John McCain. Mr. McCain is doing a fine job of smearing himself, thank you very much.

Go spread your lies and filth elsewhere, Moron Jim. I’m sure your pals like the ever ignorant Dusty will come to your rescue.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Moron Jim’s desperate attempt at a conspiracy is living proof.

By Midori

October 8, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this

A Republican not on this blog.

So our homework assignment for the next class is to find the missing blogname on Thinking Right. Could it be that one of our republican contributors was so frustrated by the strengths of arguments offered by intelligent and well-prepared democrats here that he was driven to dirty tricks directed against Obama?

Who’s not here today and possibly dressed in orange and banned from participating, not by the genial host, but by order of the court?

JUST WHO IS THIS GUY ANYWAY???

By Scholar

October 8, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this

Jim,

I had to read your article a few times to digest what you had written. Let’s start with the first sentence, “The Thinking Right blog is often attacked by liberal hackers…”

Well, Jim, no one is “hacking” your blog. You open your writing up to public comment, so take the good with the bad.

Secondly, I find your hypocrisy sickening. You have the audacity to accuse “liberals” of heaping abuse on the righteous conservatives, but say nothing of the vile spewed forth daily by your committed (or should be committed)conservative followers, who I shall not name at this time.

I was not sure as to whether you actually bothered to read the comments posted by your readers, but now I see you take great interest in seeing the back and forth vitriol your column creates.

With this posting your column has taken an embarrassingly sophmoric tone that I hope does not escape the attention of the AJC editorial staff.

One would hope that tonight’s column was the result of a hacking, and not the product of a “professional” journalist.

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

Wouldn’t you know? Didn’t I just tell you? LIBERALS DO NOT HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR.

Here, GaLiberal & Scholar….take your dose of castor oil. You will feel better.

By sunshine and thunder

October 8, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

JIM

I prefer “Ripley’s Believe It or Not” to the left nuts’ claims that they are presenting facts on this forum.

ROTFLMAO!!

If they even knew their butts from a bullfrog they wouldn’t dare say a word.

When are these guys going to address the questions about Obama’s experience?

When are they going to address the questions about Obama’s past associations?

When are they going to address (or simply admit) his voting record that is at least as liberal as that of the socialist Bernie Sanders.

When are they going to address Obama’s health care plan or his lies about both his and McCain’s plan during the debate?

When are they going to address Obama’s lie that he is going to cut taxes for 95% of workers?

When are they going to address Obama’s secretive college days? His hidden thesis?

When are they going to address Obama’s use of technicalities to remove his opposition from the ballot in his state senate election?

When are they going to address his association with, and filing lawsuits on behalf of, one of the worst vote tampering organizations in America: ACORN?

I can make this list about three times longer than it is with just one Google search.

So be my guest. Take care of these and I’ll pull in some more.

Anytime but now, huh?

By Unamused Humanist

October 8, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

What a ridiculous column, Mr. Wooten.

You constantly regurgitate GOP talking points — e.g., the need for voter ID laws — in prose that seldom ever rises to the level of pedestrian, and invite comments. Liberals (no, rationalists) contest them — in case of voter ID, showing it to be cynical attempt to disenfranchise the poor, the handicapped, the elderly, solely because they don’t vote Republicans. And now you have the nerve to characterize these types of rejoinders as “hacking”. Absurd.

Perhaps you don’t understand how morally and intellectually offensive your friendly conservative trolls are on this blog. Perhaps you forget jmblaw saying he would let poor children die rather than treat them if their parents couldn’t afford health insurance, and calling the humane treatment of said children with tax money voted for the public good by the duly elected representatives of the people as “slavery.” Do you have any idea how monstrously repugnant from a moral standpoint such positions are, not to mention how immensely insulting they are African Americans? The fact that they are presented in an unperturbed fashion makes them no less outrageous and offensive.

You write a political blog, and now are protesting when people forcefully disagree with your positions. You imply that the liberals are abusive and the conservatives friendly and rational. Have you ever even read the vile invective of “tftt”, who routinely posted comments like “all liberal scum must die”? Do you even read the comments on your own blog?

Perhaps you don’t. Given your paucity of insight, your lack of fresh ideas, and your artless power of expression, I can understand why. It is a wonder to some of us why the AJC doesn’t hire a truly intellectual conservative to replace someone as tired and ungifted as you, Someone who won’t merely function on the intellectual level of, say, a Steve Doocy; rather someone thoughtful and talented enough to provide quality conservative opinion, which would then engender quality discussion.

No wonder the AJC is in trouble.

By Brad M S

October 8, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this

Wonder how many ACORN for Obama voters frauds will the FBI find before and after the election. It seems the the Obama camp will do any thing to win the election. Obama seems to think thats he is entitled to the White House and will play any dirty trick to win the election. Obama is the master of Chicago stlye dirty politics. A ridical from nowhere who has done nothing and is nobody. This is not the change we need as the president of america.

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 10:59 PM | Link to this

Unamused Humanist @10:46

You Id is correct. Not only are you “Unamused”, you are without humor or even pleasant. Do you go to funerals for fun?

Well, excuse the repetition, but as always: LIBERALS HAVE NO SENSE OF HUMOR and you certainly are one of them.

By "The Corporal"

October 9, 2008 12:21 AM | Link to this

From the scriptures:

The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.

Ecclesiastes 10:2

P.S. Now I know some of you liberals will find some different translations that change it a little but in the original Hebrew it is still right and left.

By JFW

October 9, 2008 12:28 AM | Link to this

I want what our genial host is smoking.

By Peter

October 9, 2008 1:04 AM | Link to this

Hey Jim……………………Better put this in your pipe and smoke it…….I am sure it will calm some of the SPIN !

Fact Check: Did Obama get second-most money from Freddie and Fannie? Posted: 10:30 PM ET

The Statement: At a presidential debate Tuesday, October 7 in Nashville, Tennessee, Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain said Democratic opponent Sen. Barack Obama and other Democrats resisted regulating mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which ultimately collapsed and had to be taken over by the government. “Meanwhile, they were getting all kinds of money in campaign contributions. Sen. Obama was the second-highest recipient of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac money in history — in history,” he said.

Get the facts!

The Facts: Federal law forbids candidates from receiving money directly from companies. The nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics tracks donations from employees of various companies. The center’s list of contributions from Fannie and Freddie employees places Obama second. Ahead of him is Sen. Chris Dodd, Democratic chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.

The total listed for Obama is $126,349 — a tiny fraction of the approximately $390 million his campaign has raised, according to the center. The list shows McCain has received a total of $21,550 from Fannie and Freddie employees. The list includes donations of at least $200 from those who receive paychecks from Fannie and Freddie. It also includes donations from political action committees — pooled contributions from employees.

The report spans from 1989-2008 — just a portion of the time since Fannie Mae went private in 1968 and Freddie Mac was created in 1970.

The New York Times has published a separate list looking at contributions from “directors, officers, and lobbyists for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac” for the 2008 campaign cycle. That list — using figures from the Federal Election Commission — shows McCain receiving $169,000, while Obama received only $16,000.

VERDICT: Misleading. No donations actually came from the companies. One method of measuring employee contributions does put Obama second overall, but another, for the current election cycle, shows McCain receiving significantly more.

GEE…….. McCain actually received more money from Freddy Mac, and Fanny Mae……

By GayGrayGeek

October 9, 2008 1:17 AM | Link to this

Peter, quit it. As even the Blog Host has shown, verifiable truths and demonstrable facts have no place on this blog, if any of them contradict Today’s Republican Talking Points.

How many more days do you think it will be before McPalin is blaming Obama for water being wet, the sky being blue, and fire being hot?

By spankmonkey

October 9, 2008 3:48 AM | Link to this

Spankmonkey checking in ready to take on Jim and his denizens of darkness as they projectile vomit untruths, ridiculous hyperbole and invective…

Still waiting an answer to my questions from Jim or any of his like-minded trolls:

Why does military service matter now when it mattered not one whit in 2004 and especially 2000?

Do you want 8 more years of this?

Valerie Plame?

Perhaps Jim or one of his paragons of virtue can step up here and give us some “facts” in response to my inquiries…

By Political Foreskin

October 9, 2008 5:19 AM | Link to this

Alright! Okay! I admit it! I did it! I hacked into Palin’s email account. I couldn’t let her get all that national worship. It’s not fair. I’m trying to take over the country from my keyboard. And I woulda gottaway with it too, if it hadn’t been for Wooten and his horrid trolls!

By "Spank" the monkey

October 9, 2008 6:04 AM | Link to this

Very good PoFo. Post under your real ID and I’ll stop hounding you. Keep trying to fool the masses and I’ll stalk you to the end of the earth. Have a good day. :)

By Political Foreskin

October 9, 2008 6:20 AM | Link to this

We are in another lull in the campaign. It’s hard to compete with the credit crunch. The feds eased, but a worthless security is still worthless no matter how much interest it pays.

The unprecedented global coordination of rate cuts also signals alarm bells for weary investors. Sometimes rate cuts are admission that things will slow down, and that spooks wall street.

The trouble began years ago when they added that fourth witch to the triple witch fridays, my friend.

Quadruple witch friday. (Futures/options markets expire quarterly.)

We could handle three witches just fine. Not four. Throw in Palin, the SnowWitch, and well, we’re spooked.

Palin should debate Pelosi. Pelosi is just enough of a megalomaniac to accept the challenge, and who knows…..I know I’d like a broom-side seat to that one!

I sure hope Palin doesn’t Gallagher the boiling cauldren and I get sprayed with Lie of Newt.

AIG got 122 billion with the extra dough from yesterday. Remember how the media sold this AIG bailout? With the same narrative of global economic catastrophe that bush used to sell the general bailout.

Global investors believe it now. They will invest according to their beliefs, which have been artificially manipulated in order to justify the siphoning off of every last penny of public funds available for any Obama social program. The GOP knows it will lose, and invented this bailout to rob the Democrats of any chance of funding their justice.

The Right, is handing over the USA to Obama in the exact condition the Confederacy would have handed over the south to him in 1865: Ruined, bankrupted, and in chaos.

Conservativism aint dead.

By spankmonkey

October 9, 2008 6:38 AM | Link to this

Hmmmphmmmmm….. snicker….. hehe…. hahaha…. bwahahahahaha…..

Somebody on this board actually thinks that W was more intelligent and more qualified than McCain, well duh!!! we Know Ragnar thinks W was the better man as he supported him not once…. but twice…

Gawd I hope the american peeps aren’t stupid enough to be fooled by “gawd, guns, and lower taxes” three