Thinking Right

By Dire P's and Q's

October 8, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

God, I loved the tone of this piece. Bravo, Wooten, U+I R good 4 each other.

You soared this evening in the rare rain, as dusk approaches, in the wake of the McCain/Obama debates, where a new president was crowned.

Speak to us, sir. We listen well. Our privates are engorged and tingly….wait, that’s the church lady…sorry, sometimes I hack too….

jklol

By BS Aplenty

October 8, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

I’ll take a stab at Hillbilly Ragger. Certainly places him in the geography of our good neighbors to the north.

When do we get the answer?

By @@

October 8, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Dang Jim, ironically you sound like Captain Freedom. I’m a big fan of his too.

There was this one liberal poster at Luckovich’s……called himself “One Voice” or “Majority Voice of Dissent” — something like that. Anyhoo he tracked all the conservatives to RW’s blog where he confessed to having obtained access to our online info, financial and everthin’. Temporarily unnerving, but nothing came of it so he was all bark and no bite.

Then there was “the bathtub crew” who emulated a really nice guy’s (independent) father who had passed away. The poser posted as though he was the deceased talking to his son from the grave. Buff had notified everyone on the board over there because he considered them friends who may have wanted to know. One of those he considered a friend was of the liberal persuasion and in the tub with the crew. I won’t mention her name. She gets really……really mad when I do.

It’s really hard for me to believe that there are people like ^^^ those and young David who would put a party win over the individual privacy rights of their fellow man or woman.

What the hey! I’ve learned a lot since I started blogging. Some of it valuable……..some of it disposable.

Thanks for your columns Jim. I really do enjoy ‘em. Your sarcasm is that of a confident conservative.

By Once is not Enough

October 8, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

Gadszikes! I hate @@.

U R in 4 a lesson, fatah chick.

America is no longer U. U R some sort of alien POS.

Now git! There’s no room in America 4 the haters like @@.

‘muff said.

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

Woo, Jim, I am running around like a pouter pigeon with pride after your kind comments. I shall discard the number and post office picture offered me by liberals. Onward and upward for conservatives! YES!!

I’m keeping a sharp eye out for missing lib posters who had a Tennessee accent. He must have been from NORTHERN Tennessee, somewhere over in Gore’s territory. GORE? Ah hah!!

By AmVet

October 8, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

Never, in my life have I seen such a repugnant ploy from an otherwise professional writer who has traveled the country and world, served his country in uniform and written for this major publication for many years.

All in the name of far-fetched, mean-spirited, political gamesmanship.

Truly, Jim this is the absolute depths of yellow journalism, depravity and desperation in a newspaper column.

To single out as a standard bearer of righteous “conservative” values, someone who has frequently disparaged others military service, their children’s service and their very patriotism to this nation is in one word - shameful.

Is nothing repulsive to you anymore? Is every slur and untruth OK just because you are joined at the political hip with someone?

And for you, as the moderator, to stoop to this level is shocking.

I will continue to support your right to say what you wish, but I am truly sorry to witness this inexcusable lack of integrity, Mr. Wooten.

I really am…

By Captain Freedom

October 8, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

Wow. THE Captain just had an out of body experience of a sort. As @@ pointed out, the first two grafs of Wooten’s post were straight out of THE Captain’s Guide on Fighting Terrorists and Other Liberals in the Internet Tubes: A Primer on the 101st Fighting Keyboardist Brigade Technique.

But it was impossible, saith THE Captain. For as this post was appearing, THE Captain was laying to rest the debate on the prevous column’s blog, and He knew He had not written the column above.

Then it dawned on THE Captain. Alerted by Dusty’s persistent accusations of multiple name posting, the Truth became clear.

Jim Wooten is THE Captain, and He is Jim Wooten.

This explains why THE Captain puts such effort into carrying Wooten’s blog on His Broad Shoulders and why THE Captain often outshines His Host (which word now takes on deeper meaning, parasitically parenthetically speaking). For if THE Host is indeed THE Captain, then there is no outshining, merely reflective and refractive glory mirrored between Twin Minds of True Belief.

THE Captain has one burning question, however. Where shall He go to pick up the checks that have been written to this imaginary Wooten character?

By GOPs got to go

October 8, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

What a good belly laugh there Wooten. Our poor Sarah?

And the Swiffer is just about to blow a gasket she is so proud. Between Bookman’s Ice cream piece and you she will need some CPR soon.

HHHHAAAA. Our poor Sarah…………

By @@

October 8, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

Gadszikes! I hate @@.

But Polly, I’ve always been somewhat fond of you.

What is it about me that irritates you so?

I haven’t had much time to read your posts to proclaim them funny. For that I apologize. Captain Freedom’s are infrequent and draw attention. Yours are sometimes TOO frequent to appreciate.

I have a job, and bloggin’ ain’t it.

I’ll try harder to notice you since failing to do so causes the wheels to come off your “Straight Man Express”.

By GOPs got to go

October 8, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

Well-informed, kind and intelligent conservatives who gather here to share ideas and insights on how to create a stronger and better America. Now does this accurately describe Management, Budwiser, Andy, Communist AJC? …………. Yes they share their ideas daily about how to create a whiter and more conservative America. You should be very proud of your “following” Wooten.

You should be more concerned about your Wall Street Pals than a college kid in Tennessee.

Loved the new video of your poor widdle Sarah firing her Machine Gun. And big, bad meannie Katie asking poor widdle Sarah a question she had not memorized an answer to. Shame on Katie and Charlie both.

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

Jim W,

Did you have something in your column that’s been deleted? Otherwise I can’t see what has Blowhard’s panties in such a wad that he’s roaming all over the AJC alerting everyone to something supposedly vile here. Unless you’ve secretly sent him out on a mission to gain traffic. If that’s the case, good job!

I will offer that the Palin email snoop didn’t really hack anything and needed no particular computer skills to do what was done. A case could be made that using a single proxy server means the “hacker” wasn’t particularly skilled.

By Original Rick

October 8, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

Realize this: there is a vast difference between true Goldwater Republicans (for whom I do have respect) and the Bush/Cheney/Rove Neocon Repubs that have controlled our country for thew past 12 or so years. One group is honorable; the other disgusting.

And that being said: SHAME on any of you who are supporting the disgusting tactics used now by the Repub party. There is nothing but Shame on your heads.

I do hope it is true the the Secret Service is investigating the “Kill Him” shout-out at Our Dear Sarah’s rally in Florida. She is inciting violence and is dangerous.

And, yes. the kid deserves whatever punishment is meted out to him for hacking Our Dear Sarah’s emails.

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

Wasn’t me. Mr. Snarky has a job, (unlike most of the conservative posters on this site and Bookman’s) and doesn’t have the time or inclination for hacking Palin’s yahoo account. I can’t imagine it would make for interesting reading anyway, if she writes as poorly as she speaks. Since McCain doesn’t use the internets he’s unhackable which is good for him so there’s no electronic paper trail for his malfeasance.

By Once is not Enough

October 8, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

Gee, RW sure seems 2 know alot about hacking and stuff. I wonder if he ever probed my hard drive. Gee, I wonder what he and Wooten found.

Lots of artwork from my wife….some mozart websites…..

BWA!!!!

Suckers.

By AmVet

October 8, 2008 5:56 PM | Link to this

The endless summer of neo-con misery has turned in the autumn of their political lives.

Stick a fork in these fake conservatives. They are done. And that includes you ballerina…

WASHINGTON (CNN) — In the face of an economy in crisis and a deeply unpopular president, some analysts believe the situation is ripe to give Democrats a 60-seat filibuster-proof majority in the Senate in November.

It’s “the perfect storm,” said Stuart Rothenberg, editor of the nonpartisan Rothenberg Political Report. “You’ve got Republican voters angry at Republicans, many Americans just petrified about the future…wanting change. And right now change appears to be coming in the form of Democrats.”

Of the 35 Senate seats on the line this year, 23 are held by Republicans. Five Republican senators are retiring: Pete Domenici of New Mexico, Wayne Allard of Colorado, John Warner of Virginia, Larry Craig of Idaho and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska.

Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, said Democrats have a good shot at reaching a 60-seat majority in November, a possibility he all but ruled out earlier this year.

“The fundamentals of this election year could not be more Democratic,” Sabato said. “You’ve got a terrible economy, a deeply unpopular president and an unpopular war. You put those elements together and it’s going to produce a Democratic victory. … The only question is, what size?”

A recent CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey found that Americans blame Republicans by a 2 to 1 ratio over Democrats for the financial meltdown.

Forty-seven percent of those questioned found Republicans more responsible for the problems facing the financial institutions; 24 percent said Democrats were more responsible.

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Original Rick,

I too would like to see the Secret Service nab the people yelling things like terrorist or kill him at Palin and McCain appearances.

I’d like to see the number on their moveon.org membership card and a listing of their koz kid user names.

By AJC/DNC Management

October 8, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

Aahhh, yes, the deepening mystery.

Mr. Wooten was kind enough to spin us a scary, frightful tale on this dark and stormy night, fess up, how many of you pinkos cut the lights on after reading this?

But yet we are left wondering, how much longer will Mr. Wooten string us along, when will we get the answer that we are all waiting on, the big question that is burning in the back of everybody’s mind right now, that being; WTF is DimWet freaking out about?

Do tell us please, hahahaha.

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

It’s a sign of Jim’s early onset dementia that he actually thinks his blog is that popular that everone, including the heroic hacker, is on it. Either that or he’s just being facetious…which seems so unlike him.

Don’t worry kid, Barack will pardon you. :)

By Troll Alert

October 8, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

Dire Ps and Qs, you’re not fooling anyone PoFo!!

By Jen

October 8, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

This blog is obviously a joke. I can’t believe you all don’t see that….it’s saying the sky is green and the grass is blue.

By Once is not Enough

October 8, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

@@, you fell for it. I was just kidding. And you not only read it, but you felt compelled to respond. I was merely blogging like a conservative just to show you how pathetic you are.

That’s the logic you have employed for years, and now, you have lost America, and guess what, Fat fat? we dont care.

get lost.

I speet on you. KWEEK…THWOOP!

ew

moron.

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

It’s a sign of Jim’s early onset dementia that he actually thinks his blog is that popular that everone, including the heroic hacker, is on it. Either that or he’s just being facetious…which seems so unlike him.

Don’t worry kid, Barack will pardon you. :)

By Abomi Nation

October 8, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

What a truly weird story Jim, I like it.

Your theory here is wonderful. Of course this theory of yours has has implications for Sara Palin.

Applying your theory to Palin this means all of the under aged pregnant girls in Alaska were all impregnated by the same boy that knocked up Palin’s daughter. Thats kinda gross.

What ever happened to traditional family values? Wow.

By Political Forskin

October 8, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this

Alright! Okay! I admit it! It was me. I did it! I hacked into Palin’s emails.

And I’m glad I did it! And I’d do it again!! It’s not fair that Palin got all that national worship. I deserve to be the veep or the prez or even the king. ME! ME!!

I wanted to take over the country from my keyboard. And I woulda got away with it too, if it hadn’t been for Wooten and his P-hole conservative friends.

What a world.

PS. I meant A-hole.

By Obama Man

October 8, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

I did not know that Dusty was a female. I thought that she was an insecure white man. Now I understand the love for Ms. Sarah. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

By AmVet

October 8, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

Oh well, I got the once-banned troll of trolls, Anduhng to bite.

I too would like to see the Secret Service nab the people yelling…

Of course. Being a Nazi, you would.

Just like the “good Germans”, neo-cons have remained silent in the face of their own evil.

So, as willing slaves to their imperious bushmaster regime, reminiscent of the Third Reich, they lasted a very brief but deadly time, and then were never heard from again.

Enjoy the upcoming slaughter, cowards.

The rest of us are certainly going to…

By TN Gelding

October 8, 2008 6:20 PM | Link to this

Your beloved Sarah? You’ve got to be kidding. Weren’t you one of the ones saying Barry was too inexperienced and was nothing but a celebrity? Alaska has fewer than 700,000 residents and Wasilla fewer than 7,000.

Between earmarks and oil we purchase we’re funding their state government.

Heil Sarah!

By @@

October 8, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this

@@, you fell for it. I was just kidding. And you not only read it, but you felt compelled to respond.

And you were pleased enough to respond in turn.

Do you see now how essential I am to your happiness?

You’ve always needed a friend even if it’s only a blog friend.

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this

Actually, I’m working on hacking Bristol’s gmail account right now. I want to find out which of the Jonas brothers is her favorite. Oh and if you’re with the FBI, I’m just kidding.

By Road Scholar

October 8, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this

Would the orange jumpsuits be apprapoh (sp) for the republican leaders of the Wall Street Companies that need the government’s bailout? or perhaps the privatized war at all cost ( and no citizen sacrifice and finacial plan) leadrship influencing the White House and McCain?

Before you get all excited about your whine session, let me offer a suggestion. Why not hold a convention to select the Conservative Blogger of the Year! You definitely have some exceptional nominees. Andy (never a coherent thought) would have to be right up there. Dusty, while I appreciate the time effort and thought that you put into your blogs, you unfortunately do not have a chance of winning- too many facts. You could hold it at an appropriate location….say at Hartsfield Airport in the Men’s room!

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this

Actually, I’m working on hacking Bristol’s gmail account right now. I want to find out which of the Jonas brothers is her favorite. Oh and if you’re with the FBI, I’m just kidding.

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

Notice how nobody has hacked any of the Democratic politicians’ accounts. (Of course, they aren’t using yahoo email to conduct state business on the sly.) That’s because nobody under the age of 30 who can read and write (much less hack an email account) is a republican. The future is blue and Wooten represents the past.

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

Yelling out kill him is illegal and you don’t need to be a Naazi to nab the leftist Moby that’s doing it to try to make Palin look bad.

By Abomi Nation

October 8, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this

The McCain campaign originally wanted to go with their “Desperate Candidate” plan.

Like Bree on “Desperate Housewives,” Sara Palin was going to fake a pregnancy to hide the fact that her under age unmarried daughter was actually the one having the baby. They were going to hide the poor girl out in Alaska until she had the baby then Sara Palin was going to raise it as her own. Family values intact! Palin even started wearing one of those fake baby bellies to prepare.

They later cancelled the plan when it was determined that Palin would have to wear the 7 month baby belly right away. People might also have caught on since the Desperate Housewives fake baby episode aired recently. Maybe not. We’ll never know.

Wow. McCain is desperate.

By Truth

October 8, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

Get’em Jim. And Mr Snarky… As an IT professional under the age of 30, I disagree!

By AmVet

October 8, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this

Ricky, the reason that those people yelled those vile things were due to holes in the fossil record!

Or is it wobbles in the earth’s orbit?

Variations in the sun’s temperature?

Cow flatulence?

Just go sell stupid elsewhere Herr Richard die Primaballerina…

By Mr Snarky

October 8, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this

Truth…okay, there may be a few young right wingers in the red states. Polls of the younger generation do show strong democratic leanings, contrasting with say the 80’s when a lot of younger people went for the conservative message. This is not a surprise, given the failure on many fronts of bush and his ilk.

By getalife

October 8, 2008 7:12 PM | Link to this

crusty the clown?

My goodmess, I had you all wrong Jim.

You write parody.

I thought you were serious in your drivel.

My bad.

By RW-(the original)

October 8, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

Blowhard,

You seem even more out of sorts than usual today. Perhaps you should take a break before you pop a vessel.

Somebody certainly struck a nerve with you today. hmmmmmm….who was that again?

Oh yea, it was JW. How odd. Do you have some relatives in Tennessee?

By Commander Guy

October 8, 2008 7:24 PM | Link to this

Okay, when I saw this I was sure that someone (captain underpants?) had hacked Wooten’s blog. Seriously, this could not have come from Wooten, it is too extreme to be successful as parody. It could have worked until it went off the deep end and praised Dustball.

Then again, if it is real Wooten, mark it down as the moment when, like Mavericky McCain selecting the Dimwit from Wasilla, Jim decided that carrying around the honor and dignity he had accrued over a long career became too much of a burden, and he decided to chuck it all for an easier life.

Prediction: the young “hacker” will take a community service slap on the wrist just to make it all go away. The prosecutors have no case and they know it, but they need to put on a show for the yahoos like Dim Jim and his faithful little dog, dusty.

By AmVet

October 8, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this

No, ballerina, I am not from the Moron Belt.

Funny you should mention Tennessee though.

Isn’t that where one of your “conservative” cousins shot up a bunch of liberals, killing a few, at a children’s play recently?

While you silently applauded him, Herr Richard die Primaballerina von Norcross?

Vote Palin, Ricky!

By Mrs.Godzilla

October 8, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this

Which e-mail account got hacked?

The one she was supposed to be using for government business?

Or one of the two private accounts she has used for government business that include lot’s of cc’s to the first dude?

The “authorities” were none to happy with George and Tom and John and Ben either.

Smells like tea in here…..

By Babylon Liberal Moron

October 8, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

Yes they share their ideas daily about how to create a whiter and more conservative America.

GOP whiner at 5:38PM: Conservative, yes, white, put up or shut up on that accusation from ANY Conservative on this blog. I get so sick and TIRED of reading you liberals’ lies and making things up to further your left wing socialist agenda. Now save your face here and show how any Con here has promoted a whiter America. And don’t give me that liberal CRAP about not voting for Obama. Not wanting a socialist in office has NOTHING to do with race, you pathetic cretin.

By ron

October 8, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this

Where’s Ragnar the Horrible?

By Smell the baloney

October 8, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this

“liberal hackers polishing their hurtful invective on the well-informed, kind and intelligent conservatives who gather here to share ideas and insights on how to create a stronger and better America”

That’s ridiculous on a bunch of different levels. 1.) it’s hacking only if you bypass the front end provided for comments by some backdoor means 2.) many of your posters believe that some of the most ridiculous lies I’ve ever seen are the gospel truth; after all, conservatives believe that liberals lie all the time and refuse to believe that conservatives lie to each other. The McCain campaign and the flood of slanderous, lying emails attacking Obama should have shown anyone with a shred of sense otherwise 3.) kindness is a rare commodity around here; this is one of the most bilious boards I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen plenty 4.) intelligence is here in plenty, but so is stupidity 5.) conservatives; well, duh 6.) sharing insights is optional; bashing all thing opposed to one’s own side is the main reason to be here, no matter what side you’re on. Correction of the misguided is honestly a major theme here, but it’s always the other person who’s misguided 7.) as for creating a stronger and better America, that’s what liberals and moderates want, too; they just think conservatives are going about it the wrong way

By Commander Guy

October 8, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

Even David Brooks has gone for “That One”.

David Brooks spoke frankly about the presidential and vice presidential candidates Monday afternoon, calling Sarah Palin a “fatal cancer to the Republican party” but describing John McCain and Barack Obama as “the two best candidates we’ve had in a long time.”

In an interview with The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg at New York’s Le Cirque restaurant to unveil that magazine’s redesign, Brooks decried Palin’s anti-intellectualism and compared her to President Bush in that regard:

[Sarah Palin] represents a fatal cancer to the Republican party. When I first started in journalism, I worked at the National Review for Bill Buckley. And Buckley famously said he’d rather be ruled by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty. But he didn’t think those were the only two options. He thought it was important to have people on the conservative side who celebrated ideas, who celebrated learning. And his whole life was based on that, and that was also true for a lot of the other conservatives in the Reagan era. Reagan had an immense faith in the power of ideas. But there has been a counter, more populist tradition, which is not only to scorn liberal ideas but to scorn ideas entirely. And I’m afraid that Sarah Palin has those prejudices. I think President Bush has those prejudices.

Brooks praised Palin’s natural political talent, but said she is “absolutely not” ready to be president or vice president. He explained, “The more I follow politicians, the more I think experience matters, the ability to have a template of things in your mind that you can refer to on the spot, because believe me, once in office there’s no time to think or make decisions.”

The New York Times columnist also said that the “great virtue” of Palin’s counterpart, Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, is that he is anything but a “yes man.”

Brooks also spent time praising Obama’s intellect and skills in social perception, telling two stories of his interactions with Obama that left him “dazzled”:

Obama has the great intellect. I was interviewing Obama a couple years ago, and I’m getting nowhere with the interview, it’s late in the night, he’s on the phone, walking off the Senate floor, he’s cranky. Out of the blue I say, ‘Ever read a guy named Reinhold Niebuhr?’ And he says, ‘Yeah.’ So i say, ‘What did Niebuhr mean to you?’ For the next 20 minutes, he gave me a perfect description of Reinhold Niebuhr’s thought, which is a very subtle thought process based on the idea that you have to use power while it corrupts you. And I was dazzled, I felt the tingle up my knee as Chris Matthews would say.

And the other thing that does separate Obama from just a pure intellectual: he has tremendous powers of social perception. And this is why he’s a politician, not an academic. A couple of years ago, I was writing columns attacking the Republican congress for spending too much money. And I throw in a few sentences attacking the Democrats to make myself feel better. And one morning I get an email from Obama saying, ‘David, if you wanna attack us, fine, but you’re only throwing in those sentences to make yourself feel better.’ And it was a perfect description of what was going through my mind. And everybody who knows Obama all have these stories to tell about his capacity for social perception.

Brooks predicted an Obama victory by nine points. Wooten is one of the last holdouts. And his little dog dusty, too.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 8, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this

Good evening all. Unfortunately I fear none of our moonbats will be subject to judicial restriction, and we will continue to see the epithets every day. That is the cost of associating with leftists.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 8, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this

Dear Commander @ 7:46, I would broadly disagree with Mr. Brooks, and would describe both candidates as the least competent either party has featured since 1980 (D) and 1976 (R). As counterpoint, I would offer my favorite Obama supporter discussing Sarah the Magnificent.

By Commander Guy

October 8, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this

Wrong Ragweed…the epithets are the price you pay for not knowing your a55 from your elbow.

Oh, but you know your Ayn Rand. My 12-year old knows her Harry Potter just as well, but has the wit to recognize it as adolescent fantasy fiction. Whither your awakening, Ragnar?

Hey Wooten…is your pal and “well-informed, kind and intelligent conservative” time for the truth another exemplar of your cabal?

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 8, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this

Dear Commander @ 7:57, you argued in character. One could have forecast the scintillating content.

By Commander Guy

October 8, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this

Rag

Your admiration of Paglia falls right in line with your arrested adolescence in re: Ayn Rand. Paglia’s contrarian-feminist schtick played out years ago, about the time Madonna lost any and all relevance (which was about 15 minutes after someone thought she had any). My favorite description of Camille is “Victor Davis Hanson in heels”. It was not intended as compliment, though I’d be unsurprised to discover that you find Victor Spartacus to be genius, too.

Time to grow up, fella.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 8, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this

Commander, I regret to advise you bore me - your posts, infected by ad hominem but not by responsive thought, are insufficient to hold my interest. Have a pleasant evening.

By Babylon Liberal Moron

October 8, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this

Listening to the liberals on this blog pitch a tent fit about what Neocons post here is laughable. Not one of them corrects the vitriol from their fellow leftist friends, but when a Neocon lashes out, there is hell to pay. It’s just so typical and to be expected of the hypocritical cheese & whine club of left wingnut liberal Democrats in this nation. They can sure sling it though, can’t they?

By Commander Guy

October 8, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

Thus Ragnar, unable to deny the truth, slinks away.

Get used to it, GOPers.

By lrd

October 8, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

Jim, why is then that when Democrats ask questions such as why McCain mentions yet more socialism arounde the govt now paying for peoples mortgages and renegotiating loans, that none of the good ole gopr’s answer the question? Why is your Presidential candidate for Socialism?

By Jason

October 8, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this

lrd:

That’s a good question. Special circumstances require special actions. A lot of Conservatives support this bail out, just like they supported corporate bail outs of previous days to keep jobs and companies afloat. With that said, our current situation is partially if not more responsible by Barney Frank socialism of giving cheap loans to people who couldn’t really afford them long term due to a shady credit history or financial background. You know, that fairness thing and all that socialist liberals are always touting..and buying votes with:

By STEVEN A. HOLMES Published: September 30, 1999 The New York Times

In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.

The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets — including the New York metropolitan region — will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.

Fannie Mae, the nation’s biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.

In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies have been pressing Fannie Mae to help them make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers. These borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings are not good enough to qualify for conventional loans, can only get loans from finance companies that charge much higher interest rates — anywhere from three to four percentage points higher than conventional loans.

And from 2003 and the NYT and Barney Frank—what is in that old dude’s mouth anyway, a sock??:

“These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

By Jen

October 8, 2008 8:51 PM | Link to this

What is a tent fit? Is it a fit designed to provide shelter for all those it covers?

By lrd

October 8, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this

Jason, I understand that certain times may indeed drive certain actions, but do we bail out peoples 2nd mortgages and vacation houses? And what about us folks who have a solid mortgage, do not carry debt and have done the right thing? Why should we be penalized by fools who did foolish things?

(Placing all blame on Fred and Fannie seem a bit farfetched. They were not the ones signing the papers, not the ones selling the loans to folks… I believe trying to take the individuals and their descisions out of the equation is in essence saying no on should be held responsible for their own actions)

By AnonyMoose

October 8, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

What makes Wooten think that someone in Memphis is reading his blog? Don’t they have their own newspaper there? Jim, I know it is hard to accept, but you’re just not national.

By JimJr.

October 8, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this

Thanks W
““A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death.”” –Martin Luther King, Jr. One day in Iraq OR 84 new elementary schools. One day in Iraq OR 12, 478 elementary school teachers One day in Iraq OR 95, 364 Head Start places for children One day in Iraq OR 1, 153,846 children with free school lunches

By TN Gelding

October 8, 2008 9:08 PM | Link to this

Jason

October 8, 2008 8:50 PM

More recently, Barney defends himself.

By SayNo2McCain

October 8, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

Wooten,

This is the craziest thing you have written all week.

I have a feeling that until NOV 4th, it will just get crazier.

After Obama is elected, you will just loose your mind completely.

By GayGrayGeek

October 8, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

Wow. What a pitiful piece of “journalism”, Jim. Simply pitiful.

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this

Well, things are still buzzing here. Liberals, as always, spread their fragile impositions. Spreading what little joy they have on wings like those of Icarus, who fell ksplat as soon as the sun melted the wax. The wax that held his homemade wings together. Yep a nose dive.

Get the feeling, libs? Feel the melting wax as you do the political freefall? YOU WILL.

Ragnar,7:55

Thanks for the link to Paglia. Her description of McCain’s bravery and ethics was the best I have read. I wish more people could understand the strong will and morality that rests within McCain.

Alas, libs have no understanding or appreciation of such dedication. They choose the butterfly when you need an eagle.

Commander Guy,@ anytime

You couldn’t “command” a game of marbles. First, you lost your marbles long ago. Second, no one would play games with a sorehead. Third, David Brooks went to work at the NYT and he hasn’t been the same since. His leftiness is only a temporary malady. He will vote for McCain and not the butterfly.

Question: Do you have an identical twin in Tennessee?

By Jason

October 8, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

lrd: “Jason, I understand that certain times may indeed drive certain actions, but do we bail out peoples 2nd mortgages and vacation houses?”

Repeat this comment I made over and over until it sinks in:

”..our current situation is partially if not more responsible by Barney Frank socialism of giving cheap loans to people who couldn’t really afford them long term due to a shady credit history or financial background.

I hardly find second or weekend vacation home owners falling in that category above.

TN: “Barney defends himself”

I like the first comment the best there by a reader:

Thank you, Sam, for a very good article. Can you please explain to me why Rep. Frank is still in office?

best regards,

Janelle

Amen Janelle. But to answer your question, he’s a Democrat. Democrats NEVER accept responsibility for failures of ftheir political agendas. EVER.

By TN Gelding

October 8, 2008 9:30 PM | Link to this

lrd

October 8, 2008 9:00 PM

I agree. It was the loan originators and rating companies, and in some cases even the home builders. Fannie and Freddie thought they were getting investment grade securities. That’s not to say they didn’t run amok, but a lot of it went on after Franklin Raines had been ousted.

I’m willing to admit tho, that the complexity of the transactions is more than I can comprehend.

By Jason

October 8, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

Do any of you liberals ever actually read posts from right-wingers and comprehend them or do you people just react emotionally and completely let what was posted go over your head, let alone the point? I cannot tell you how many times I have said the word “some” or “part” or other language that hardly says “ALL” only to see some liberal come back with “saying that ALL of point X is to blame is a stretch.” Grow up, liberal children.

By GayGrayGeek

October 8, 2008 9:43 PM | Link to this

Jim, I take it Jason’s evening-long rants are examples of the “intelligent and well-prepared conservatives” you feel are being So Put Upon by simple truths and demonstrable facts presented by me and my fellow libs?

Pitiful. Simply pitiful. It would be hilariously humourous if it weren’t so painfully pitiful.

By Hillbilly Deluxe

October 8, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this

Since O. J. is in jail he can’t hunt for the missing blogger. We may never find the answer to this mystery.

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

My goodness, one thing is painfully clear today. LIBERALS DO NOT HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR.

Jim Wooten wrote a de’lite’ful piece to perk up the middle of the week. He made us smile over the possibility of a convicted college kid posting on Thinking Right.

So liberals act like they had been sentenced to the black hole of Calcutta and dosed with castor oil. Rants rumbled and bumbled.

Shhh…. don’t tell anybody. They already know. Liberals do not have a SENSE OF HUMOR.

By GaLiberal

October 8, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

Moron Jim said: But now I’m left to wonder: Which of liberal contributors here might have been the son of the Democratic state legislator in Tennessee who hacked the e-mail account of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin?

What Moron Jim fails to acknowledge is this person has only been charged with this “crime.” Like a good Rethuglicon, Moron Jim ignores Constitutional niceties like innocent until proven guilty.’ Hell, this person hasn’t even had a trial and Moron Jim has already tarred and feathered him as guilty. Moron Jim has declared himself Judge, Jury, and Executioner.

Secondly there Moron Jim, no matter how you spin this and the lies you tell (because that’s all you Rethuglicons know how to do), this person was not part of some vast “Left Wing Conspiracy” to smear John McCain. Mr. McCain is doing a fine job of smearing himself, thank you very much.

Go spread your lies and filth elsewhere, Moron Jim. I’m sure your pals like the ever ignorant Dusty will come to your rescue.

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Moron Jim’s desperate attempt at a conspiracy is living proof.

By Midori

October 8, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this

A Republican not on this blog.

So our homework assignment for the next class is to find the missing blogname on Thinking Right. Could it be that one of our republican contributors was so frustrated by the strengths of arguments offered by intelligent and well-prepared democrats here that he was driven to dirty tricks directed against Obama?

Who’s not here today and possibly dressed in orange and banned from participating, not by the genial host, but by order of the court?

JUST WHO IS THIS GUY ANYWAY???

By Scholar

October 8, 2008 10:29 PM | Link to this

Jim,

I had to read your article a few times to digest what you had written. Let’s start with the first sentence, “The Thinking Right blog is often attacked by liberal hackers…”

Well, Jim, no one is “hacking” your blog. You open your writing up to public comment, so take the good with the bad.

Secondly, I find your hypocrisy sickening. You have the audacity to accuse “liberals” of heaping abuse on the righteous conservatives, but say nothing of the vile spewed forth daily by your committed (or should be committed)conservative followers, who I shall not name at this time.

I was not sure as to whether you actually bothered to read the comments posted by your readers, but now I see you take great interest in seeing the back and forth vitriol your column creates.

With this posting your column has taken an embarrassingly sophmoric tone that I hope does not escape the attention of the AJC editorial staff.

One would hope that tonight’s column was the result of a hacking, and not the product of a “professional” journalist.

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

Wouldn’t you know? Didn’t I just tell you? LIBERALS DO NOT HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR.

Here, GaLiberal & Scholar….take your dose of castor oil. You will feel better.

By sunshine and thunder

October 8, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

JIM

I prefer “Ripley’s Believe It or Not” to the left nuts’ claims that they are presenting facts on this forum.

ROTFLMAO!!

If they even knew their butts from a bullfrog they wouldn’t dare say a word.

When are these guys going to address the questions about Obama’s experience?

When are they going to address the questions about Obama’s past associations?

When are they going to address (or simply admit) his voting record that is at least as liberal as that of the socialist Bernie Sanders.

When are they going to address Obama’s health care plan or his lies about both his and McCain’s plan during the debate?

When are they going to address Obama’s lie that he is going to cut taxes for 95% of workers?

When are they going to address Obama’s secretive college days? His hidden thesis?

When are they going to address Obama’s use of technicalities to remove his opposition from the ballot in his state senate election?

When are they going to address his association with, and filing lawsuits on behalf of, one of the worst vote tampering organizations in America: ACORN?

I can make this list about three times longer than it is with just one Google search.

So be my guest. Take care of these and I’ll pull in some more.

Anytime but now, huh?

By Unamused Humanist

October 8, 2008 10:46 PM | Link to this

What a ridiculous column, Mr. Wooten.

You constantly regurgitate GOP talking points — e.g., the need for voter ID laws — in prose that seldom ever rises to the level of pedestrian, and invite comments. Liberals (no, rationalists) contest them — in case of voter ID, showing it to be cynical attempt to disenfranchise the poor, the handicapped, the elderly, solely because they don’t vote Republicans. And now you have the nerve to characterize these types of rejoinders as “hacking”. Absurd.

Perhaps you don’t understand how morally and intellectually offensive your friendly conservative trolls are on this blog. Perhaps you forget jmblaw saying he would let poor children die rather than treat them if their parents couldn’t afford health insurance, and calling the humane treatment of said children with tax money voted for the public good by the duly elected representatives of the people as “slavery.” Do you have any idea how monstrously repugnant from a moral standpoint such positions are, not to mention how immensely insulting they are African Americans? The fact that they are presented in an unperturbed fashion makes them no less outrageous and offensive.

You write a political blog, and now are protesting when people forcefully disagree with your positions. You imply that the liberals are abusive and the conservatives friendly and rational. Have you ever even read the vile invective of “tftt”, who routinely posted comments like “all liberal scum must die”? Do you even read the comments on your own blog?

Perhaps you don’t. Given your paucity of insight, your lack of fresh ideas, and your artless power of expression, I can understand why. It is a wonder to some of us why the AJC doesn’t hire a truly intellectual conservative to replace someone as tired and ungifted as you, Someone who won’t merely function on the intellectual level of, say, a Steve Doocy; rather someone thoughtful and talented enough to provide quality conservative opinion, which would then engender quality discussion.

No wonder the AJC is in trouble.

By Brad M S

October 8, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this

Wonder how many ACORN for Obama voters frauds will the FBI find before and after the election. It seems the the Obama camp will do any thing to win the election. Obama seems to think thats he is entitled to the White House and will play any dirty trick to win the election. Obama is the master of Chicago stlye dirty politics. A ridical from nowhere who has done nothing and is nobody. This is not the change we need as the president of america.

By Dusty

October 8, 2008 10:59 PM | Link to this

Unamused Humanist @10:46

You Id is correct. Not only are you “Unamused”, you are without humor or even pleasant. Do you go to funerals for fun?

Well, excuse the repetition, but as always: LIBERALS HAVE NO SENSE OF HUMOR and you certainly are one of them.

By "The Corporal"

October 9, 2008 12:21 AM | Link to this

From the scriptures:

The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.

Ecclesiastes 10:2

P.S. Now I know some of you liberals will find some different translations that change it a little but in the original Hebrew it is still right and left.

By JFW

October 9, 2008 12:28 AM | Link to this

I want what our genial host is smoking.

By Peter

October 9, 2008 1:04 AM | Link to this

Hey Jim……………………Better put this in your pipe and smoke it…….I am sure it will calm some of the SPIN !

Fact Check: Did Obama get second-most money from Freddie and Fannie? Posted: 10:30 PM ET

The Statement: At a presidential debate Tuesday, October 7 in Nashville, Tennessee, Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain said Democratic opponent Sen. Barack Obama and other Democrats resisted regulating mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which ultimately collapsed and had to be taken over by the government. “Meanwhile, they were getting all kinds of money in campaign contributions. Sen. Obama was the second-highest recipient of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac money in history — in history,” he said.

Get the facts!

The Facts: Federal law forbids candidates from receiving money directly from companies. The nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics tracks donations from employees of various companies. The center’s list of contributions from Fannie and Freddie employees places Obama second. Ahead of him is Sen. Chris Dodd, Democratic chairman of the Senate Banking Committee.

The total listed for Obama is $126,349 — a tiny fraction of the approximately $390 million his campaign has raised, according to the center. The list shows McCain has received a total of $21,550 from Fannie and Freddie employees. The list includes donations of at least $200 from those who receive paychecks from Fannie and Freddie. It also includes donations from political action committees — pooled contributions from employees.

The report spans from 1989-2008 — just a portion of the time since Fannie Mae went private in 1968 and Freddie Mac was created in 1970.

The New York Times has published a separate list looking at contributions from “directors, officers, and lobbyists for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac” for the 2008 campaign cycle. That list — using figures from the Federal Election Commission — shows McCain receiving $169,000, while Obama received only $16,000.

VERDICT: Misleading. No donations actually came from the companies. One method of measuring employee contributions does put Obama second overall, but another, for the current election cycle, shows McCain receiving significantly more.

GEE…….. McCain actually received more money from Freddy Mac, and Fanny Mae……

By GayGrayGeek

October 9, 2008 1:17 AM | Link to this

Peter, quit it. As even the Blog Host has shown, verifiable truths and demonstrable facts have no place on this blog, if any of them contradict Today’s Republican Talking Points.

How many more days do you think it will be before McPalin is blaming Obama for water being wet, the sky being blue, and fire being hot?

By spankmonkey

October 9, 2008 3:48 AM | Link to this

Spankmonkey checking in ready to take on Jim and his denizens of darkness as they projectile vomit untruths, ridiculous hyperbole and invective…

Still waiting an answer to my questions from Jim or any of his like-minded trolls:

Why does military service matter now when it mattered not one whit in 2004 and especially 2000?

Do you want 8 more years of this?

Valerie Plame?

Perhaps Jim or one of his paragons of virtue can step up here and give us some “facts” in response to my inquiries…

By Political Foreskin

October 9, 2008 5:19 AM | Link to this

Alright! Okay! I admit it! I did it! I hacked into Palin’s email account. I couldn’t let her get all that national worship. It’s not fair. I’m trying to take over the country from my keyboard. And I woulda gottaway with it too, if it hadn’t been for Wooten and his horrid trolls!

By "Spank" the monkey

October 9, 2008 6:04 AM | Link to this

Very good PoFo. Post under your real ID and I’ll stop hounding you. Keep trying to fool the masses and I’ll stalk you to the end of the earth. Have a good day. :)

By Political Foreskin

October 9, 2008 6:20 AM | Link to this

We are in another lull in the campaign. It’s hard to compete with the credit crunch. The feds eased, but a worthless security is still worthless no matter how much interest it pays.

The unprecedented global coordination of rate cuts also signals alarm bells for weary investors. Sometimes rate cuts are admission that things will slow down, and that spooks wall street.

The trouble began years ago when they added that fourth witch to the triple witch fridays, my friend.

Quadruple witch friday. (Futures/options markets expire quarterly.)

We could handle three witches just fine. Not four. Throw in Palin, the SnowWitch, and well, we’re spooked.

Palin should debate Pelosi. Pelosi is just enough of a megalomaniac to accept the challenge, and who knows…..I know I’d like a broom-side seat to that one!

I sure hope Palin doesn’t Gallagher the boiling cauldren and I get sprayed with Lie of Newt.

AIG got 122 billion with the extra dough from yesterday. Remember how the media sold this AIG bailout? With the same narrative of global economic catastrophe that bush used to sell the general bailout.

Global investors believe it now. They will invest according to their beliefs, which have been artificially manipulated in order to justify the siphoning off of every last penny of public funds available for any Obama social program. The GOP knows it will lose, and invented this bailout to rob the Democrats of any chance of funding their justice.

The Right, is handing over the USA to Obama in the exact condition the Confederacy would have handed over the south to him in 1865: Ruined, bankrupted, and in chaos.

Conservativism aint dead.

By spankmonkey

October 9, 2008 6:38 AM | Link to this

Hmmmphmmmmm….. snicker….. hehe…. hahaha…. bwahahahahaha…..

Somebody on this board actually thinks that W was more intelligent and more qualified than McCain, well duh!!! we Know Ragnar thinks W was the better man as he supported him not once…. but twice…

Gawd I hope the american peeps aren’t stupid enough to be fooled by “gawd, guns, and lower taxes” three times in a row. It’s understandable once, that the simple masses listened to their clergy and voted that way once. As for the 2nd time, that can probably be attributed to fear, as we had Darth Cheney and the rest of the NeoCon cabal out in force threatening us with mushroom clouds if we didn’t vote republican (sad, but true…) But three times? Social scientists would be scratching their heads for years on that one. How can any of you say “Oh Yeah, give me 4 more like the last 8”???

By Dr. Sigmund Hogan Trochek

October 9, 2008 6:54 AM | Link to this

I zee, political foreskin, zat your dementia is vorsening. You are producing less original material, und you are abzent-mindedly repeating it. I expect you vill sank me for admiring your material und urge me to steal is so zat udders vill sink I am zee chenious. Vell, I sink ve vill double your cocaine prescripton und see vhat happens.

By spankmonkey

October 9, 2008 7:06 AM | Link to this

OMG…omg…

The NRA is going to have a press conference today to announce their endorsement in the presidential race…OMG… I’m all atwitter inside (much like Dusty on this honored day…) I’m like on pins-n-needles… I wonder who it’s gonna be???

By Dr. Sigmund Hogan Trochek

October 9, 2008 7:11 AM | Link to this

Mine shpelling is not zo goot zince being reincarnated as zhis hack former AJC reporter cum hack novelist. Zhat, ov course, zhould be “chenius.” A zhousand pardons.

By Will

October 9, 2008 7:37 AM | Link to this

Dear Mr. Wooten:

When Senator McCain passed over Governor Romney and selected Governor Palin as his running mate I was encouraged.

Now I have found out that Governor Palin and her husband were supporters of the Alaskan Independence Party. Both have attended this political party’s political conventions and Mr. Palin was a member. As Governor, Mrs. Palin publically welcomed this party to Alaska. Did you know this?

I am just so fearful that this is not a women who sees America the way that you and I see America, as the greatest source for good in this world. I’m afraid this is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to work with a political party that has called for Alaska to secede from the greatest country on earth, the country of Reagan, TR, McCain and other American patriots.

Mr. and Mrs. Palin may have changed their minds since their association with this anti-US political party but to have ever been associated with such an anti-American effort brings into play her overall judgement and character.

By No How No Way No McCain

October 9, 2008 7:37 AM | Link to this

Quick, somebody call a waaaaahmbulance for Wooten.

By hillbilly ragger

October 9, 2008 7:38 AM | Link to this

I am Sparticus!

By donald

October 9, 2008 7:42 AM | Link to this

Jim you and your con artist bloggers are a bunch of over inflated windbags. I am neither liberal nor conservative, I’m for what’s correct and the truth. For you to get on your hypocritical soapbox and cry wolf is a joke.

Open that silly mind of yours and admit that your glory days of common nut job conservativtism is over.

By D

October 9, 2008 7:44 AM | Link to this

just one thing to remember, there wasn’t a single Democrat or Liberal among all of those Wall Street scumbags. so keep blaming the boogeyman as country slowing sinks below the water line. beleiving in lies and bullcrap i.e., Sarah Palin is a hockey mom, really? just ask the numbskull what ‘icing’ is and she’ll tell you it’s so,ething they put on a cake. or maybe we could ask the hockey mom how a player in hockey is called for off-sides, she can’t do either. and you want to give an incompetent fool who’s foreign policy and life goal is the Rapture our nuclear codes one day?

By catlady

October 9, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this

The Thinking Right blog is often attacked by liberal hackers polishing their hurtful invective on the well-informed, kind and intelligent conservatives who gather here to share ideas and insights on how to create a stronger and better America. It’s brutal sometimes. The abuse heaped by frightened liberals on my conservative brethren and sisteren causes the genial host to wince — until, lo and behold, the good conservative Dusty or one of her many conservative friends on the blog rises up to smite them down with an irrefutable truth incisively delivered.

Hahahahaha. That was so tongue in cheek, I am surprised you didn’t swallow your tongue. And to think that your “conservative brethren” and cisterns didn’t get it.

By GeezG

October 9, 2008 7:49 AM | Link to this

All the comments about Palin just being a Governor in Alaska doesn’t count as experience because of the population of the state.

That did not seem to important when it was Bill Clinton from Arkansas. Or how about when we put the Peanut Farmer from GA in the White House….

Obama’s never been anything but an organizer and on his second term in the Senate, but that somehow makes him more experienced.

Charisma and being the darling of the liberally biased media are what really counts in this election…not substance.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this

Dear Commander @ 8:07 last night, I decided you deserve a more thorough explanation of the deficiency in your argument skills. You posted, “Your admiration of Paglia falls right in line with your arrested adolescence in re: Ayn Rand. Paglia’s contrarian-feminist schtick played out years ago, about the time Madonna lost any and all relevance (which was about 15 minutes after someone thought she had any). My favorite description of Camille is “Victor Davis Hanson in heels”. It was not intended as compliment, though I’d be unsurprised to discover that you find Victor Spartacus to be genius, too. Time to grow up, fella.”

While I honestly noted the string of ad hominem and the absence of any analysis in your note, I should have shown you the error of your way, and given you a path to more effective argument. You totally undermine your positions with your dismissal of Camille Paglia (“her schtick played out years ago”) – the obvious statement you make there is that, in contrast, all of your views are trendy and popular, and that is your basis for holding your view. Not exactly a course to burnish your intellectual credentials. The core flaw in your style is that you adhere to contradiction and disparagement and flinging names, with seemingly no interest in actually arguing an idea. That, of course, is our host’s topic.

Your path out of the wilderness: may I magnify our friend Findog. Findog is mostly conservative, although less ideological than I, and he is the best analyst on the board now. I acknowledge that I have not posted anything substantial for a couple of days, but the next time I do, watch what Findog does. He parses the argument, slices it up and down, runs a total CAT scan on the foundations and the logic, and then confronts me with the soft spots in my post. Never calls a name, never disparages a source, scours the internal consistency, and occasionally cites and rejects a foundation premise. Truly an impressive technique.

By Copyleft

October 9, 2008 7:52 AM | Link to this

Funny stuff, Mr. Wooten. Your diehard (and brain-dead) talknazi followers here won’t recognize the facetious tone, of course. They honestly think they ARE intelligent and thoughtful pundits.

That makes it even funnier. Thanks for the entertainment as we await President Obama’s oath of office.

By williebkind

October 9, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this

So you liberals do not mind if someone invades your privacy and posts it on the internet. Now, that is change!!! Some you mentioned Palin’s association with some Alaskan group but NEVER mention the Terrorist Obama hung out with nor the Preacher who said G*D Da@N America. Now thats change!!! Obama attended his church for 20 plus years and never heard him say anything!!! Now that is change!!! Now we have ACORN committing voting fraud and we do not hear from the liberals. Now that is change!!! I guess rights and change are only meaningful if its for you—a wacko liberal. Now thats NOT change!!!

By reader110

October 9, 2008 8:00 AM | Link to this

Oh, yeah, just keep demonizing the Democrats. Personally, I prefer to be on the side of reality:

A British Perspective:

Flirting her way to victory

Sarah Palin’s farcical debate performance lowered the standards for both female candidates and US political discourse

Michelle Goldberg Friday, October 3 2008 guardian.co.uk

At least three times last night, Sarah Palin, the adorable, preposterous vice-presidential candidate, winked at the audience. Had a male candidate with a similar reputation for attractive vapidity made such a brazen attempt to flirt his way into the good graces of the voting public, it would have been universally noted, discussed and mocked. Palin, however, has single- handedly so lowered the standards both for female candidates and American political discourse that, with her newfound ability to speak in more-or-less full sentences, she is now deemed to have performed acceptably last night.

By any normal standard, including the ones applied to male presidential candidates of either party, she did not. Early on, she made the astonishing announcement that she had no intentions of actually answering the queries put to her. “I may not answer the questions that either the moderator or you want to hear, but I’m going to talk straight to the American people and let them know my track record also,” she said.

And so she preceded, with an almost surreal disregard for the subjects she was supposed to be discussing, to unleash fusillades of scripted attack lines, platitudes, lies, gibberish and grating references to her own pseudo-folksy authenticity.

It was an appalling display. The only reason it was not widely described as such is that too many American pundits don’t even try to judge the truth, wisdom or reasonableness of the political rhetoric they are paid to pronounce upon. Instead, they imagine themselves as interpreters of a mythical mass of “average Americans” who they both venerate and despise.

In pronouncing upon a debate, they don’t try and determine whether a candidate’s responses correspond to existing reality, or whether he or she is capable of talking about subjects such as the deregulation of the financial markets or the devolution of the war in Afghanistan. The criteria are far more vaporous. In this case, it was whether Palin could avoid utterly humiliating herself for 90 minutes, and whether urbane commentators would believe that she had connected to a public that they see as ignorant and sentimental. For the Alaska governor, mission accomplished.

There is indeed something mesmerising about Palin, with her manic beaming and fulsome confidence in her own charm. The force of her personality managed to slightly obscure the insulting emptiness of her answers last night. It’s worth reading the transcript of the encounter, where it becomes clearer how bizarre much of what she said was. Here, for example, is how she responded to Biden’s comments about how the middle class has been short-changed during the Bush administration, and how McCain will continue Bush’s policies:

Say it ain’t so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again. You preferenced [sic] your whole comment with the Bush administration. Now doggone it, let’s look ahead and tell Americans what we have to plan to do for them in the future. You mentioned education, and I’m glad you did. I know education you are passionate about with your wife being a teacher for 30 years, and god bless her. Her reward is in heaven, right? … My brother, who I think is the best schoolteacher in the year, and here’s a shout-out to all those third graders at Gladys Wood Elementary School, you get extra credit for watching the debate.

Evidently, Palin’s pre-debate handlers judged her incapable of speaking on a fairly wide range of subjects, and so instructed to her to simply disregard questions that did not invite memorised talking points or cutesy filibustering. They probably told her to play up her spunky average-ness, which she did to the point of shtick - and dishonesty. Asked what her achilles heel is - a question she either didn’t understand or chose to ignore - she started in on how McCain chose her because of her “connection to the heartland of America. Being a mom, one very concerned about a son in the war, about a special needs child, about kids heading off to college, how are we going to pay those tuition bills?”

None of Palin’s children, it should be noted, are heading off to college. Her son is on the way to Iraq, and her pregnant 17-year-old daughter is engaged to be married to a high-school dropout and self-described “f***’ redneck”. Palin is a woman who can’t even tell the truth about the most quotidian and public details of her own life, never mind about matters of major public import. In her only vice-presidential debate, she was shallow, mendacious and phoney. What kind of maverick, after all, keeps harping on what a maverick she is? That her performance was considered anything but a farce doesn’t show how high Palin has risen, but how low we all have sunk.

Copyright Guardian Newspapers Limited 2008

By some questions

October 9, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this

1- if john mccain is a patriot and thinks obama is a terrorist of some kind, why did he let a terrorist work beside him for years in our governement before waiting til now to do something about it?

2- if republicans all think government is horrible and can’t work at anything, why do they try so hard to be a part of it?

3- if healthcare for all americans is bad just because it will be government run, how can republicans so strongly support and be in favor of our military which is probably our biggest run government organization?

4- and finally, why don’t the christians in our country today act more like christ would’ve have wanted them to act?

By Goldie

October 9, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

Could it be that one of our liberal contributors was so frustrated by the strengths of arguments offered by intelligent and well-prepared conservatives here that he was driven to dirty tricks directed against our beloved Sarah?

Oh, Wooten — you be so funny!

Maybe if you so-called “conservatives” did display some “strengths of arguments” instead of hate-mongering rhetoric, you wouldn’t have some slime slung back at your faces day after day.

And where were your so-called “strengths” in arguing for the necessity of invading and occupying Iraq for the past 6 years, especially after your hero McSame proclaimed that “it will be fairly easy” to perform regime change? Where is your “strength” in owning up to how your war-mongering has bankrupted America today???

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

Dear unamused racist @ 10:46 last night, you posted,

“Perhaps you don’t understand how morally and intellectually offensive your friendly conservative trolls are on this blog.” Yes, we realized the truth offends the prejudices of leftists.

“Perhaps you forget jmblaw saying he would let poor children die rather than treat them if their parents couldn’t afford health insurance,” – an obvious untruth. I would let poor children die if their parents refused to pay for service.

“and calling the humane treatment of said children with tax money voted for the public good by the duly elected representatives of the people as “slavery.”” No, you got it confused – the expropriation of tax monies is “theft.” The compelled uncompensated service of medical professionals is “slavery.” The foundation flaw of socialized medicine is the lie that it can constrain costs. It can theoretically constrain costs in only one of two ways: (1) by setting up a bureaucrat who makes life and death decisions, that only certain people, probably mostly rich white people, will get medical treatment, or (2) by compelling medical practitioners to perform government-mandated services at whatever price the government mandates. The alternative to those two “cost-savers” is that “universal health insurance” becomes a never-ending taxpayer subsidy. The only problem with health care now is the absence of meaningful market participation. To restore such market participation, I would prohibit the sale of health insurance entirely. If hospitals actually had to collect their bills from real patients, instead of relying on a massive pool of money, we would see some realistic price discipline.

“Do you have any idea how monstrously repugnant from a moral standpoint such positions are, not to mention how immensely insulting they are African Americans?” Certainly we all agree that people of color are stupider and wear outrage on their sleeves. You know, morons like you, and the similar idiots who decry Sarah Palin’s “racism” and John McCain’s “racism” make it difficult for a thoughtful white person to take seriously any real possibility of racial bigotry. I will persist in my intellectual honesty despite you, not because of you.

“The fact that they are presented in an unperturbed fashion makes them no less outrageous and offensive.” Yes, cry me a river. Phil Gramm was talking about you.

By williebkind

October 9, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this

Well if you going to bring in the family ” By reader110 ” then Obama’s mama is white trash!! I saw that on the internet by a reverand. Also if the UK has the kind of paradise for your please feel free to catch a boat or plane there real soon. MY forefathers said Europe sucked and I believe them.

By GeezG

October 9, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this

All the comments about Palin just being a Governor in Alaska doesn’t count as experience because of the population of the state.

That did not seem to important when it was Bill Clinton from Arkansas. Or how about when we put the Peanut Farmer from GA in the White House….

Obama’s never been anything but an organizer and on his second term in the Senate, that somehow makes him more experienced.

Charisma and being the darling of the liberally biased media are what really counts in this election…not substance.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

Dear spanky @ 6:38, you post, “Somebody on this board actually thinks that W was more intelligent and more qualified than McCain, well duh!!! we Know Ragnar thinks W was the better man as he supported him not once…. but twice…”

You are partially right. W had the vision to address the entire Islamist problem, so on that one ground he is more intelligent and more qualified than Captain Queeg. I think Captain Queeg has to be applauded for his tactical vision in pushing the Surge, now seemingly a success even from the perspective of Chauncey Gardener, so that would be a plus for Captain Queeg where W was slow on the uptake.

I think neither has much of an economics foundation, although both seem like geniuses next to the Marxist. And I have posted here, several times, that I did not vote for President Bush in 2000 – I voted Libertarian then – although I thought/think President Bush deserved re-election in 2004, for his forward-looking Iraq War.

By williebkind

October 9, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this

Well if you going to bring in the family ” By reader110 ” then Obama’s mama is white trash!! I saw that on the internet by a reverand. Also if the UK has the kind of paradise for you, please feel free to catch a boat or plane and go there real soon. MY forefathers said Europe sucked and I believe them.

By CJ

October 9, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

Look here, you old fuddy duddy, stop using the word “Liberal” as if it’s a cuss word. That’s why we post in your blog. And, truth be told, plenty of Conservatives post their headstrong opinions in Bookman’s blog too.

Get over yourself!

By reader110

October 9, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this

wiliebkind - Yo mama.

I figured I’d respond in kind.

By reader110

October 9, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this

wiliebkind - “Your mama!”

I figured I’d respond in kind.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Dear questionable @ 8:04, you ask good questions:

1- if john mccain is a patriot and thinks obama is a terrorist of some kind, why did he let a terrorist work beside him for years in our governement before waiting til now to do something about it? – Good point, should have shot the terrorist on first sight.

2- if republicans all think government is horrible and can’t work at anything, why do they try so hard to be a part of it? – Mostly to keep the socialists from really screwing us.

3- if healthcare for all americans is bad just because it will be government run, how can republicans so strongly support and be in favor of our military which is probably our biggest run government organization? - We agree that the government is the most efficient killing machine in the world today. We choose not to extend that expertise to our healthcare system. Of course for leftists, who deem abortion as a medical sacrament, the extension makes sense.

4- and finally, why don’t the christians in our country today act more like christ would’ve have wanted them to act? – unlike leftists, we don’t “act” – we do.

By walter

October 9, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

I’m a proud Democrat who will vote for Obama. You seem a little paranoid for whatever reason that real Democrats are not responding on this blog. Not sure why people would respond to this particular local blog unless they were really local folks.

I think that person who hacked into Palin’s email account should be treated just like any other criminal. What he did was wrong and whatever the penalties are for something like that should be carried forth.

From what I understand that is a federal offense and the fact that his family is involved with politics should have been enough to stop him from doing something like that.

He didn’t, he has to be held accountable for his actions.

By OpinionsMatter

October 9, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this

What a lame post. As usual, Wooten tries to deflect attention away from the real issue: that Palin used a non-government email account to conduct government business, apparently to avoid accountability. The “justice” system was quick to indict the alleged hacker, but what about Palin? Oh, that’s right … any investigation of her is being blocked by Republican operatives who’ve descended upon Alaska in effort to thwart any justified look into Palin’s many irregularities. Despite repeated attempts by numerous organizations, Palin’s official emails have still not been released, and likely won’t be until after the election is over.

So instead of wondering if the alleged hacker ever posted on this blog (highly unlikely), turn your attention to the eminently unqualified Republican Vice Presidential candidate whose patterns of deceit and secrecy rival the current admininstration’s. Do you really want four more years of that?

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

Taranto published a funny quote a couple of days ago: “Strong voter registration efforts launched by Obama and Democrats appeared to pay off, with Obama leading McCain by 63 percent to 47 percent among voters who have registered to vote in the last six months.”—Reuters, Oct. 7. Probably written by an Obamanomics accounting major.

By Time for an overhaul

October 9, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

You need look no further than ANY government controlled program to see how quickly, expensively and utterly screwed up it can become. Give the government control and access to more of your funds and watch them blow through it. That’s what has happened to SS, it’s been plundered for non-SS spending, that’s just one example.

Having our government in control of healthcare and healthcare decisions will be far worse than the mess we have now. Do you want some bureaucrat determining what treatment you or your family receive - making life and death decisions.

I’m not sure why so many people do not understand that what the Democrats are purposing is “socialized” medicine. Ask our Canadian neighbors what they think of the program. That program is why those who can afford it come here for treatment, otherwise by the time they get through the “wait list” it may be a mute point. BTW, it is not free, they pay higher taxes than we do on everything!

Do we really need or want to continue to fund illegals bellying up to the Federal trough at our expense. Good grief people, I don’t know about the rest of you, but I am sick of giving 40% of my paycheck go to the government yet I’m not eligible and any of these so-called free services. Charity should be run by charities - not the government.

Redistribution of wealth is only good for those on the receiving end of other’s efforts. Are we not capable of looking at other countries who are socialist countries to see what kind of life that is for the vast majority? If I wanted to live in a socialist country I would not be in the US…

By Get Real

October 9, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

Nice way to try and rally the base Wooten, NOT. This thing is over, and its obvious you have nothing whatsoever to talk about.

By D

October 9, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

give him a break, just think how confusing it must be to be in a party that is totally against the media (with the exception of something like Tass, Pravda or Fox News) and also be a writer for a major newspaper. I don’t like all that the media does, but the right to free speech is one of our most American ideals. the only people that dislike the media as a whole are those that want a totalitarian government. those that would burn others at the stake that don’t automatically and blindly fall in line like they are ‘supposed to’. Ben Franklin was in the media, and he was one of our greatest patriots. of course the British did everything they could to silence him. and just think about all the millions of taxpayer dollars we could have saved in that stupid Clinton/Lewinsky thing if someone had brains enough not to appoint Kenneth Starr special prosecutor, but just walk over to the Washington Post instead and inform them of what was going on. that private company would have launched an investigation and would’ve paid for all the research and man hours themselves just for the stories they could have written. there are negatives with the media, with the press, but he alternative is not only Un-American, but down right scary.

By Some Answers

October 9, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

1 McCain never said Obama was “a terrorist of some kind.” stupid question.

2 Republicans try to get into government to fix it to their liking, meaning smaller and more efficient.

3 Republicans are in favor of a strong military because it protects American interests here and abroad, not too complicated.

4 Christians in all countries, not just America, should act more like Christ would have wanted, something even the most Christian among us strive to do every day.

By more answers

October 9, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

1 you’re right mccain didn’t say it. he cowardly had his toadie sarah dan quayle palin do it for him

2 you mean like the smaller government you’ve brought us both times with reagan and bush?

3 if the government can’t do anything right as i’m told how can our military be any good and why would you support it?

4 why are the meanest most closed-minded uncaring people i see today all calling themselves christians. i bet a lot of the execs at lehman brothers go to religious service once a week. you want to make george bush crap his pants? say ‘hey isn’t that jesus over there’

By Peter

October 9, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

Hey I understand sorry………….

By GayGrayGeek

October 9, 2008 1:17 AM | Link to this

Peter, quit it. As even the Blog Host has shown, verifiable truths and demonstrable facts have no place on this blog, if any of them contradict Today’s Republican Talking Points.

You are correct there are NO Truths on this blog………

We only have SPIN SPIN SPIN…….. Jim are you dizzy yet ?

By GayGrayGeek

October 9, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

Some Answers @ 9:30

By ron

October 9, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

Good morning all,Fine column Jim.I’m here so it warn’t me.I hope they hang the little guy.I must caution you,Jim,use the word alleged until after the conviction.

Morning Ragnar.—-That wasn’t me back there wondering where you were.

I’m glad it was a Democrat.{who else would do it?}, that hacked into Palin’s email.Too bad he wasn’t better connected.Like Reid’s kid or someone like that.We really need a nice, juicy scandal to liven things up.

Nationalize a few banks,shades of London?I’ve always wanted to be partial owner of Citibank.Good use of tax dollars.Just kidding.

By Peter

October 9, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

Gee Jim and the Funny Republicans on this Blog…..more Truth’s are coming out today……..

Todd Palin had unusual access to wife’s staff By MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writer Thu Oct 9, 4:10 AM ET

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin remained in the dark while her husband repeatedly asked top state officials to help get his former brother-in-law kicked off the state police force, Palin’s husband and top aides said in affidavits provided to The Associated Press.

Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, is the focus of a legislative investigation into whether she abused her authority by firing the state’s public safety commissioner to settle a long-standing family dispute. The commissioner says he was fired after resisting pressure to fire Mike Wooten, a trooper involved in a bitter divorce with Palin’s sister.

The investigation has been a distraction for John McCain’s presidential campaign. Lawmakers were scheduled to meet Friday and release a report on the case, which could shed light on how Palin governs and what role her husband played in her administration.

The affidavits filed with investigators late Wednesday will probably help Palin’s defense that the firing was not a t**-for-tat, but they also portray her as uninvolved while her husband met repeatedly with her aides about family affairs. That could provide fodder for her political opponents.

“I have heard criticism that I am too involved in my wife’s administration,” Todd Palin wrote in his affidavit. “My wife and I are very close. We are each other’s best friend. I have helped her in her career the best I can, and she has helped me.”

The documents, released on the same day the state Supreme Court heard arguments in a lawsuit designed to block the probe, describe Todd Palin’s extraordinary level of access to a variety of the governor’s top aides.

He told them emotional stories about Wooten threatening and emotionally abusing his family. He said he talked to anyone who would listen. He gave them photos and documents, which they forwarded to others in the administration, and he questioned how Wooten kept his job.

Even Gov. Palin’s special assistant, Ivy Frye, said she was distraught when she was told about the situation.

“I’ve felt empathy for the Palin and Heath families in having to endure harassment, intimidation, threats and abuse from a former family member,” Frye wrote.

But Frye said she never talked about it with the governor or mentioned the idea of asking Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan to fire Wooten.

Monegan says he was fired for not dismissing Wooten, a claim that touched off the politically charged investigation just before McCain chose Palin as his running mate. Palin says she fired Monegan over a budget dispute. The documents filed late Wednesday bolster that claim and also describe an effort by Monegan to wrest control of the department away from Palin.

Todd Palin said he never pressured anyone — including his wife. In fact, he says that after talking about the matter with her repeatedly, she finally told him to “drop it.”

“Anyone who knows Sarah knows she is the governor and she calls the shots,” Todd Palin wrote. “I make no apologies for wanting to protect my family and wanting to publicize the injustice of a violent trooper keeping his badge.”

Republican lawmakers argued Wednesday before the state Supreme Court that the legislative inquiry should be shut down and the report not released. Palin is not a part of that lawsuit. The state’s personnel board also is looking into the matter and Palin has said she feels that inquiry is more appropriate.

The Supreme Court said it would rule promptly but did not say when.

Gee Jim…..Actually who was running stuff In Alaska ?

Things that make you go…. Hmmmmmmmmmm !

By Goober

October 9, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

Hey, “The Corporal”

That’s it? Scripture? Somehow I expected more in your usually concise and on-the-nail post. Wind this up with your one paragraph zinger.

By sq

October 9, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Todd Palin sounds like the reincarnation of Nancy Reagan.

By spankmonkey

October 9, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Ragnar, I give you this one:

“I think neither has much of an economics foundation, although both seem like geniuses next to the Marxist. And I have posted here, several times, that I did not vote for President Bush in 2000 – I voted Libertarian then – although I thought/think President Bush deserved re-election in 2004, for his forward-looking Iraq War.”

Compared to John Kerry, W was the better choice at the time, I could never stay awake long enough when Kerry started postulating to actually understand what the hell he was talking about. Saying you voted libertarian is saying that you supported W in stealth manner. If you were of libertarian leanings then you would not be such a cheerleader for the current ticket.

Thusly you supported W by not voting for Kerry, you just couldn’t stomache your obvious choice so you hid the in safe harbor of “voting libertarian”. Passively supporting Bush by not engaging or doing anything meaningful.

I have yet to read one little iota of libertarianism in any of your posts, although, admittedly, I’ve only recently taken notice of your writings.

One more question, and this is to all of you here:

Who here has skin in this game? Do any of you know a current enlisted man or officer in any of our armed forces, or are any of you actually related to someone over there fighting?

Just a simple yes/no would suffice here…

By ron

October 9, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Peter—-Ever hear of Bill and Hillary?Some spouses get involved in their mate’s political job.

Nancy and Ron?—Eleanor and Franklin?

By jbmlaw

October 9, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

I bet Dusty’s cooter got all excited when she saw her name in Jim’s article.

By GayGrayGeek

October 9, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

spankmonkey - Yes. To both. I know a fine MP in the US Army, and two of my cousins are currently Over There, one in Iraq and the other in Afghanistan.

By misterearl

October 9, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

“Kill Him”

Speaking of affiliations..

why do Palin’s rallys remind me of a Ku Klux Klan meeting?

“He is not one of us”

The only thing missing is the sheets

Know history

By Ga Values

October 9, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

I just spent about a hour talking to my Daughter in Zurich about her trip home for the Holidays. Skype is great, we talk several times a week, when I was in Viet Nam my parents got a letter once a week & it took 2 weeks to get there. There are some good things about living how rather than in the’60’s. For us natives it’s easy to look at Atlanta’s problems but we laid out a good interesting 2 week visit plan for her & her boyfriend. We would talk about attractions & she would check them out on the internet, when I was her age, 24 this could not be imagined.She plans to introduce her boyfriend to her 92 year old grandmother, a fun trip I’ll skip.

As a Conservative Republican, I do not see this as a Conservative blog.. Jim & Dusty are RINOes. The party currently called the Republican party with a few exceptions is more liberal that the Democratic party my Grandmother was a member of in the 1960’s. How was the Ferderal government allowed to grow the deficite to the point of killing our economy under the Bush Administration with control of both houses?

By tom

October 9, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Yes Jim, way to ignore the republican knuckle-draggers who comment here suggesting that Obama should be assassinated.

People, get used to saying “President Obama.” Soon it will be a reality. All of the racist, ignorant rednecks and “me first” suburbanites in GA can’t stop this train. It’s over for McSame.

By Demo

October 9, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

I wonder who the GOP will put up next. Palin doesn’t know didly about the Federal System, Congress, The White House Etc. What’s up with that?

By Harry S.

October 9, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Jim Wooten is WRONG again, but at least he is always consistently wrong.

Unfortunately, now he is also a whinny little cry baby too! Apparently, pointing out factual errors is considered attacking by the ultra thin skinned GOPers.

Poor dumb red neck republicans, every so called conservative principle they have believed in for the past 40 years has proved to be a complete failure! And the bush/chenny/McCain incompetence is not the primary reason, they were ALL wrong from the beginning.

Look at the phony family values from serial adulterers and sex fiends like Newt, Barr, Vetter, Foley and Senator (Wide-Stance) Craig; please add phony family values to the list of failures.

Massive tax cuts for the rich and their corrupt corporate cronies and now bailouts for these same millionaires, another failure that will make millionaires into billionaires.

You wanna talk about failures? Think 9/11, bush was warned bin Laden determined to hijack airplanes in the U.S. But he stayed on vacation and warned his cabinet members to stop flying commercial. But, did they warn the airlines? NO. Did they warn the Pilot’s Association? NO. They sure as heck (to steal a phrase from Britney Palin), did not even warn NORAD! But when you live in the fantasy world of GOP talking points this is considered keeping us safe from the terrorists.

So if you leave out, 9/11, the phony war to steal oil from Iraq, Katrina, bin Laden running free, and the complete collapse of our economy, you could say conservatives are doing a heck of a job!

By Churchill's Mom

October 9, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

I must be running late today there are so many Palin comments today but none from Jim. Here’s mine I think it’s called fluff in the trades.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama and Dick Cheney are not the only political odd couple who share a family tree. Sarah Palin is linked in her lineage to Franklin Roosevelt. She also has a connection with Princess Diana.

Roosevelt, the Depression-era Democratic president, is a distant cousin of Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, according to genealogists at Ancestry.com.

Roosevelt is Palin’s ninth cousin once removed. Their common ancestor is Rev. John Lothrop, who came to Massachusetts in 1634.

Palin also has ties to the late British princess, the Web site’s researchers found. The Alaska governor is a 10th cousin of the former royal.

Last year, Cheney’s wife, Lynne, discovered the ancestral ties between the Republican vice president and Democratic presidential nominee while researching her book. She said the relationship was eighth cousin, though the Chicago Sun-Times has traced it as ninth cousins once removed.

By Peter

October 9, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

Hey Ron………..

“By ron

October 9, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Peter—-Ever hear of Bill and Hillary?Some spouses get involved in their mate’s political job.

Nancy and Ron?—Eleanor and Franklin?”

Yes we have all heard about Nancy and Ron……..It appears that the OLD Ronnie was having alzheimer’s disease while in office and Nancy was making the decisions for him.

Gee funny he was younger then McCain when he went into office……….

Makes you wonder who will be making the decisions for McCain, since he is……..WAY PAST HIS PRIME !

By GayGrayGeek

October 9, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

GaValues @ 9:55 - According to The Republican Talking Points, all economic problems in U.S. are the fault of Bill Clinton. Those that are demonstrably NOT due to Clinton are, therefore, due to Jimmy Carter.

NONE of the problems in the U.S. - NONE - could at all be due to the Republicans’ control of the White House for 28 of the past 40 years, nor their control of Congress for 12 of the past 14 years, nor the concurrent Republican control of BOTH branches of the U.S. Government for 6 of the past 8 years.

To admit such would be going against The Republican Talking Points, and we musn’t have that, now, can we?

By Peter

October 9, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Jim from the New York Time today……..

It appears the Republicans are truly worried they will lose Georgia this election………

“n addition to the six swing states, three more states appear to be violating federal law. Alabama and Georgia seem to be improperly using Social Security information to screen registration applications from new voters. And Louisiana appears to have removed thousands of voters after the federal deadline for taking such action. “

Gee Jim……..the Truth is Hurting the GOP these days !

By GT 81

October 9, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

Americans hating their fellow Americans is evil.

I think all you Democrats and Republicans need to quit fighting each other. Back during the Cold War, the enemy of conservatives was the “communists,” meaning Russians. The liberals said, “Don’t worry so much about the Russians. Just be happy.”

Ever since then, the new enemy of the conservatives is the liberals, who have responded by fighting back with the same reflexive fury.

I’m fairly apolitical, and you guys on both extremes scare me. A house divided cannot stand.

By Peter

October 9, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Hey Jim…..

More fodder for all the WRONGS to freak about !

‘Perfect storm’ could give Dems ‘magic 60’ in Senate

WASHINGTON (CNN) — In the face of an economy in crisis and a deeply unpopular president, some analysts believe the situation is ripe to give Democrats a shot at a 60-seat filibuster-proof majority in the Senate in November.

Analysts say the November election could give Democrats a filibuster-proof majority.

It’s “the perfect storm,” said Stuart Rothenberg, editor of the nonpartisan Rothenberg Political Report. “You’ve got Republican voters angry at Republicans, many Americans just petrified about the future…wanting change. And right now change appears to be coming in the form of Democrats.”

Of the 35 Senate seats on the line this year, 23 are held by Republicans. Five Republican senators are retiring: Pete Domenici of New Mexico, Wayne Allard of Colorado, John Warner of Virginia, Larry Craig of Idaho and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska.

Wow read the article Jim……… You guys may be Toast !

By tcoach

October 9, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Torn you know redneck IS a Racial SLur.

Don’t complain about racism if you are a racist yourself.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

Dear spanky @ 9:43, I think you may have misread some of my post. I voted for W in 2004; the Libertarian candidate then was a cut and run type. I voted Libertarian in 2000.

“If you were of libertarian leanings then you would not be such a cheerleader for the current ticket.” Somehow I think Captain Queeg would dispute the noun you assigned, although I freely acknowledge my admiration for Sarah the Magnificent – my kind of girl, like Lady Thatcher. Chairman Ann has a funny email on her website, “I found the debate last night truly nauseating. Sarah’s the only one of the four of them I could spend five minutes with and not become homicidal, suicidal, or comatose.”

Otherwise, if you think I will allow you to define “libertarian” with a small “L,” you think wrongly. Every line I publish reflects my disdain for the nonmilitary activities of government.

I do not have “skin in the game,” but I have never concealed my pride in that my younger son is a Lt JG in the US Navy. The only people with “skin in the game” are those serving there, and my son is his own man. You wrongly minimize the nature of the commitment by allowing others to share the glory of that patriotic service. The only conceivable extension of that honor would go to a spouse, for the subordination of marriage to service.

By HIDT

October 9, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

The 9:48 by “jbmlaw” was not mine.

By ron

October 9, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Peter—Congratulations,you smelled out the bait and bit,while totally ignoring the main events.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Dear GGG @ 10:07, you commit the usual leftist error in attributing failure to individuals rather than to particular actions or inactions. In his analysis of the panic, Dr. Williams assigns great blame to the CRA and related anti-discriminatory lending laws; He also identifies particular early efforts to address the growing problems, and identifies those who frustrated efforts to constrain the injuries, exclusively democrats. The guiltiest of the guilty, Barney Frank, identifies the “real culprit” – racist Republicans.

By GayGrayGeek

October 9, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

tcoach @ 10:24 - If you wrong-wingers are now reduced to “You do it, too!” then you may as well stick a fork in yourselves and concede.

By Get Over Yourself

October 9, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

Who cares what that 20 year old knuckle head did? Sure he broke the law and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. But I am more concerned about Jim’s “brethren and sisteren” screaming “terrorist!” and even worse, “kill him!” whenever Obama’s name is mentioned by Sarah Palin… and she just stands there smiling with glee at it all.

Those are YOUR people Wooten and the are the dregs of society. They want to kill a black man because he had the audacity to run for president.

But I doubt you have the guts to ever confront that sort of hate Wooten… I am sure you don’t want to upset your brethren and sisteren.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Dear HIDT @ 10:30, I knew it was not you – not your style. Thanks for so-asserting anyway. Probably just the Captain again.

By Get Over Yourself

October 9, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

Who cares what that 20 year old knuckle head did? Sure he broke the law and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. But I am more concerned about Jim’s “brethren and sisteren” screaming “terrorist!” and even worse, “kill him!” whenever Obama’s name is mentioned by Sarah Palin… and she just stands there smiling with glee at it all.

Those are YOUR people Wooten and the are the dregs of society. They want to kill a black man because he had the audacity to run for president.

But I doubt you have the guts to ever confront that sort of hate Wooten… I am sure you don’t want to upset your brethren and sisteren.

By citizen

October 9, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Let’s just try to simplify this economic meltdown. I’m a Native American and our culture did not buy nor sell Mother Earth. In 1950 a person buys 1 acre of land for $100.00. In 1960 that same acre of land is assessed for $200.00, he’s feeling pretty good about the value of his property. In 1970, that same acre of land is now assessed at $450.00; in 1980 it’s assessed at $1200.00 and in 1990 it is assessed at $2,300.00. He dies in 2000 and his heirs are left with ONE acre of land. Mother nature will get you everytime.

By CommunistAJC

October 9, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Wooten, Great job my friend. Libs do not live their lives in truth. Remember their other savior Bubba Clinton. “It depends on what your definition of “is” is. That’s their motto.

By Dusty

October 9, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

Well, what doya know?? Liberals still don’t get the joke of the piece Jim wrote for a little enjoyment. Jim is not a somber, sky is falling, funeral faced lib. Obviously, he enjoys life. I thought you might get a little understanding overnight but NO NO NO…apocalypse is here (Obama) ‘cause libs said so.

Now upset liberals immediately declare that Jim Wooten is neither Winston Churchill nor Shakespeare. And…they, bygod, are going to tell him ALL about it. I repeat: LIBERALS HAVE NO SENSE OF HUMOR.

I do have a QUESTION for the poster @9:48 (probably an ID Thief)

What is a “cooter’ that you mentioned? I’ve heard of “barracooders.” We did call turtles “cooters” when I was growing up. I don’t have a turtle but an orthopedist I know has a turtle aquarium in his office. Maybe YOU would like to explain your language??

See ya after the meeting. Bye now!

By Stop Pretending!

October 9, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

Me thinks this might be Mr. Wooten’s theme song. Come on everybody, lets sing it together:

I’m a little teapot short and stout, Here is my handle, here is my spout,
When I get all steamed up hear me shout, Tip me over and pour me out.

I’m a clever teapot, yes it’s true; Let me show you what I can do: I can change my handle to my spout Just tip me over and pour me out.

Whew! Don’t cha know, I feel better now.

By Pat

October 9, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

It’s not too late for McCain. Keep hammering Obama on his background and record.

http://www.cafepress.com/barryfableguy http://www.cafepress.com/NObamaforPres

By AmVet

October 9, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

The NRA is going to have a press conference today to announce their endorsement in the presidential race…OMG… I’m all atwitter inside (much like Dusty on this honored day…) I’m like on pins-n-needles… I wonder who it’s gonna be???

spankmonkey, that is kind of ironic as guess who I got a call from last night?

Yep, the NRA.

The caller starts out with the predictable line of “You know they’re really trying to take away all kinds of guns from us just like Clinton did.”

I asked the man EXACTLY what he was talking about.

He said HR 1022.

I told him that I generally followed the lead of police organizations on these matters.

I asked him if the National Association of Police Organizations opposed this ban.

He said he would have to put me on hold and ask his supervisor. (He didn’t know???)

And sure enough, he came back and reported they did oppose it.

His supervisor lied to him and he dutifully relayed the lie on to me.

The fact is that the 236,000-member National Association of Police Organizations has endorsed this ban.

My point is simple. Whether you agree with them or not, on any individual piece of legislation, how could someone in good faith support an organization that is so desperate, they have to resort to intentional misinformation and use these kind of tactics?

Had these people just been honest with me, I would have considered their position on this matter.

Not this American.

Go sell your lies elsewhere NRA…

By Stop Pretending!

October 9, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Me thinks this might be Mr. Wooten’s theme song. Come on everybody, lets sing it together:

I’m a little teapot short and stout, Here is my handle, here is my spout,
When I get all steamed up hear me shout, Tip me over and pour me out.

I’m a clever teapot, yes it’s true; Let me show you what I can do: I can change my handle to my spout Just tip me over and pour me out.

Whew! Don’t cha know, I feel better now.

By CommunistAJC

October 9, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

AmVet, These are your words:

My point is simple. Whether you agree with them or not, on any individual piece of legislation, how could someone in good faith support an organization that is so desperate, they have to resort to intentional misinformation and use these kind of tactics?

Um, ever heard of the democrat party? Ever hear of Acorn? Your beloved savior Obama Hussein is a huge part of them. I’d trust the NRA over the democrat party any day. Go sell stupid somewhere else.

By JLK

October 9, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

TOO funny, Mr. Wooten! BTW, how many college kids do you know who consult their Dads before committing their ingenious (in their own minds anyway) pranks. I know I didn’t! Surely Dad is uber-ticked at Junior’s latest antic.

I wonder why you didn’t mention the OTHER controversy about Sarah Palin’s email account, though?

From the Juneau Empire:

Palin routinely uses a private Yahoo e-mail account to conduct state business. Others in the governor’s office sometimes use personal e-mail accounts, too. The practice raises questions about backdoor secrecy in an administration that vowed during the 2006 campaign to be “open and transparent.”

Even before the McCain campaign plucked Palin from Alaska, a controversy was brewing over e-mails in the governor’s office. Was the administration trying to get around the public records law through broad exemptions or private e-mail accounts?

By Jack

October 9, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this

Wow, Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

yeah Jim, It is only us liberals who ever go onto the oppostion blogs to post ‘hateful things’ it must be wonderful to walk through life with blinders on.

By atllaw191

October 9, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

This column smacks of the “religious right” which was neither religious nor right!

For all of you NOT registered to vote, please understand that you’ve chosen the candidate by doing nothing and you are indeed RESPONSIBLE for candidates objectives on that decision to not vote.

Complacency will get you at least 4 more years of the same and we are all responsible for that!

By Peter

October 9, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

Hey Ron………….

By ron

October 9, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Peter—Congratulations,you smelled out the bait and bit,while totally ignoring the main events.

Funny Guy…….. I guess you missed the point as well…….???????

But no problem……………….. I am sure you want the President’s Wife, and the VP’s Husband making the decisions in the White House……….

Like the GOOD OLD DAYS for the REPUBLICAN’S !

Makes “Conservative Sense” I guess ?

By Shrugging Atlas

October 9, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

You’re right Dusty this is a joke. I’m laughing my a$$ of right now, your level of delusion is too funny. I also love the oxymoron of “well-informed, kind and intelligent conservatives”, that’s as good as jumbo shrimp. And he drivels, “who gather here to share ideas and insights on how to create a stronger and better America.” I guess that is as long as that better America is for you and no body else. What you conservatives fail to see is that helping the less fortunate is about creating a better America, for everyone, not just some. The republican party is a party of selfishness. The mantra is “ME”, and “I”. The democrats talk about “US” and “WE”. There is no argument.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Dear ron @ 9:26, I admit I did think, in error, that early post was you but that was not particularly a problem for me – I think Ragnar the Horrible has a nice ring to it.

Hope everyone saw Justice Scalia’s argument discussing the court’s refusal to rehear the leftist decision protecting the lives of child rapists. He explains why leftists on the court are dangerous to the republic:

“I am voting against the petition for rehearing because the views of the American people on the death penalty for child rape were, to tell the truth, irrelevant to the majority’s decision in this case. The majority opinion, after an unpersuasive attempt to show that a consensus against the penalty existed, in the end came down to this: “[T]he Constitution contemplates that in the end our own judgment will be brought to bear on the question of the acceptability of the death penalty under the Eighth Amendment…

“Of course the Constitution contemplates no such thing; the proposed Eighth Amendment would have been laughed to scorn if it had read “no criminal penalty shall be imposed which the Supreme Court deems unacceptable.” But that is what the majority opinion said, and there is no reason to believe that absence of a national consensus would provoke second thoughts. While the new evidence of American opinion is ultimately irrelevant to the majority’s decision, let there be no doubt that it utterly destroys the majority’s claim to be discerning a national consensus and not just giving effect to the majority’s own preference.”

Pure genius. If you want to see a vivid display of the intellectual deficiencies of leftists, read the majority opinion.

By GayGrayGeek

October 9, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Esquire - “Proof By Repeated Assertion” is a favorite Republican’t tactic, but that dawg don’t hunt no more. Just because The Republican Talking Points as well as Faux News insist that the entire Wall Street Fiasco is all Barney Frank’s fault and no one else’s, doesn’t make the assertion true.

Republican’ts controlled the two branches of government for the time periods I documented. Therefore, Republican’ts own the overwhelming majority of the responsibility for the mess the U.S. currently finds itself in.

After all, “Personal Responsibility” is a Republican’t mantra, correct? Well, then, take some responsibility for you-n-yours, Esquire.

By BuckheadBill

October 9, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

I really don’t understand anything anybody said today. Couldn’t read them all, the ones that I read were usual lib talk——I never do understand what they say. Always worded so that later they all plead that “we were taken out of context”!

By One Voice

October 9, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

Who cares? We’re about 3 months away from having a Democratic president, a huge Democratic majority in the house, and a Democratic majority in the Senate that will achieve cloture (filibuster-proof). Both Palin and McCain’s political careers will cease to exist because of their dishonorable conduct this week. Republicans will have absolutely no power in any of the three branches of government, and Democrats will have free reign to clean up the Republicans’ mess and institute policies that are truly beneficial to America. Wooten has nothing left to talk about except a 20-year-old hacker and will never again in his life see the Republicans hold the power they did, because Americans will remember their incompetence and corruption for generations.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Dear Dusty @ 10:36, “I do have a QUESTION for the poster @9:48 (probably an ID Thief).” Assuredly the poster was not yours truly – as you surely inferred the term used by the fraud is a leftist slang, generally used disdainfully, to broadly label the female reproductive system.

By Ga Values

October 9, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

If we were going to do a bailout, I thought we should just buy bank stock, Paulson’s new boy agrees, so what does the market do.. Down 100 pts. So much for my economic advice. The quote is from a NYT Business Letter.

“Having tried without success to unlock frozen credit markets, the Treasury Department is considering taking ownership stakes in many United States banks to try to restore confidence in the financial system, The New York Times’s Edmund L. Andrews and Mark Landler reported, citing government officials.

The Treasury plan was still preliminary and it was unclear how the process would work, but it appeared that it would be voluntary for banks. It resembles a recapitalization plan announced Wednesday in Britain.

The American recapitalization plan has emerged as one of the most favored new options being discussed in Washington and on Wall Street, officials told The Times. But there are concerns.

Treasury officials worry that aggressive government purchases, if not done properly, could alarm bank shareholders by appearing to be punitive or could be interpreted by the market as a sign that target banks were failing.”

By deegee

October 9, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

I don’t think JW is capable of writing an opinion piece like the one that appears on the Thinking Right blog today. Which one of you wild-eyed libs hijacked his web page and wrote that hilarious opinion piece?

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Dear GGG @ 11:10, just to test your honesty, would you support imposition today of the restraints the Republicans were blocked from imposing on FNMA and FHLMC four years ago? (You realize we attribute the death of the legislation to the democrat filibuster threat in the Senate.) Would you support repeal of the 1970s era leftist legislation (CRA, HMDA, Fair Housing, Equal Credit Opportunity) that, due to abuse by regulators, stimulated the “sub-prime” and other low-doc market?

By JLK

October 9, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

Fake Lawyer, I’m confused about your stance on the rights of child rapists and rapists in general. The predominant GOP position is that RAPISTS HAVE THE RIGHT FOR THE SEED OF THEIR CRIMES TO BE CARRIED TO TERM BY THE VICTIM, even (as per Gov. Palin) when the victim of the crime is a child, and/or a relative, or whose own life or health is in danger by doing so. Is this your position as well, that the victim should be punished in a most horrific way? (and btw, charged up to $1000 for the rape kit…) Just curious.

By ACORN

October 9, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

Obama is trying to still the election with organizations like ACORN that he has connections with that are registering false names of people to vote in states across america. This is big and is being investigated by the FBI. It is becoming very apparent that Obama and his campaign is always company to corruption. If they are this corrupt now just think of how it would be if Obama were president. America come to your senses and do not vote this corrupt man in office.

By Peter

October 9, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

I wonder what Jim’s thought on INDEPENDENT Voters would be…………..

Are they allowed to Blog HERE ?

By Commander Guy

October 9, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

Said Obama: “I am surprised that, you know, we’ve been seeing some pretty over-the-top attacks coming out of the McCain campaign over the last several days, that he wasn’t willing to say it to my face. But I guess we’ve got one last debate. So presumably, if he ends up feeling that he needs to, he will raise it during the debate.”

Obama calls out the chicken5hit of Hanoi. McCain doesn’t have the stones to say it himself, but sends his little girly beyotch out to do it for him.

Q: What’s the difference between a little boy hiding behind mommy’s skirts and John McCain?

A: Not a damn thing.

President Barack Hussein Obama. Get used to it, rightwing traitors.

By Ga Values

October 9, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

Real news from the AJC..

A Fey-Palin comedy summit? Stay tuned By DAVID BAUDER

AP Television Writer

NEW YORK — It seems like the inevitable comedic summit of this fall’s presidential campaign: the real Sarah Palin coming on “Saturday Night Live” to meet her look-alike impersonator, Tina Fey.

“All in good time,” said a cagey Lorne Michaels, longtime executive producer of NBC’s “Saturday Night Live,” which has been rejuvenated this fall by Fey’s three skits as the Republican vice presidential candidate

By AmVet

October 9, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Um, ever heard of the democrat party? Ever hear of Acorn? Your beloved savior Obama Hussein is a huge part of them. I’d trust the NRA over the democrat party any day. Go sell stupid somewhere else.

Mr. McCarthy, for the umpteenth time, I will not vote for Senator Obama, you ignoramus.

Let me say again, fool, in words that PERHAPS you can finally understand, “In my opinion, Barack Obama is not qualified to sit in the White House”.

Got it, dorkwad?

PLEASE tell me you do.

Good. Now that MAYBE you comprehend my position about the junior senator from Illinois, try to grasp this concept, toadie.

Your red herring in lieu of a cogent retort is utterly irrelevant.

The topic is the NRA intentionally lying to me regarding a very specific issue - not the Democrats, not Obama, not your denseness.

Try again, hack.

Or better yet, save yourself the embarrassment and don’t…

By Dennis

October 9, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

“The abuse heaped by frightened liberals on my conservative brethren and sisteren causes the genial host to wince — until, lo and behold, the good conservative Dusty or one of her many conservative friends on the blog rises up to smite them down with an irrefutable truth incisively delivered.”

Mr. Wooten, this is a marvelous joke!

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By GayGrayGeek

October 9, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

Shyster @ 11:22 - Your Shining Senators caved to a THREAT of filibuster. Not an actual filibuster, but a THREAT of one. Since there was no actual filibuster, that leaves the Republican’ts competely responsible for their legislation’s, and thus their, and thus the U.S. economy’s, failure.

Peter @ 11:43 - In WootenWorld, there is no such thing as an “Independent” voter. By definition, all voters are either “Them” or “Us”. There is no possiblity for a Middle Ground - it’s all “Them” or “Us”. It’s the Grand Suthun’ Tradition of “If’n yew ain’t fer us, yer agin us”.

By Gator Joe

October 9, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

The Lee County, Florida uniformed sheriff who spoke at Palin’s rally there, and mockingly used Obama’s middle name, painted the almost-perfect picture of many McCain/Palin supporters, intolerant, racist and anti-semitic. The only things he was missing to make the picture complete, brown shirt and swastika-emblazoned armband.

By Peter

October 9, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

WOW…Talk about CUT AND RUN………..

Bush signs order to ease switch to next president By TERENCE HUNT AP White House Correspondent

WASHINGTON — A piece of paper that President Bush signed Thursday helps ease his way out of the White House when his term ends and clears the way for his successor.

Seems the REPUBLICANS are the ones who are about Cutting and Running Currently !

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

Dear GGG @ 11:57, I agree that the Republican senate did not compel honesty from the Democrats, and accepted their claim of opposition with wasting the time of the Senate. Now, does that mean you would or would not support the changes the Republicans proposed four years ago?

By getalife

October 9, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

Finally, Peter posts some good news.

The end of w is near.

He should go ahead and resign in disgrace like Nixon and get the hell out of the country he destroyed.

By jbmlaw

October 9, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Dusty if you don’t know what your cooter is, then that might explain why you are so uptight.

By Netta

October 9, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

What in the world has this nation come to…this supposedly super power called the United States. Ya’ll will do anything to maintain the status quo…even down to trying to elect a ‘70’s adul——— cheer leader with b——— grandchildren in the White House. She sounds like an airhead, carries herself like a s—-, and cannot hold a decent conversation with the heads of state. She’s flirtatious at the most inappropriate times. God help America.

By CommunistAJC

October 9, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Only a democrat would worship a presidential candidate. Sad.

By GayGrayGeek

October 9, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Shyster @ 12:06 - Now, as of today? Of course I would. Hindsight is always 20/20, such as your current dissembling about the reasons for your choices in 2000 and 2004.

Duh-bya is Your Boy, Esquire. Like it or not, he’s Your Boy.

getalife @ 12:14 - Even if only for a few months, would President Anakin Skywalker be an improvement? [shudder]

If resignations are tendered, we’d need both Fozzie and his Frank Oz to submit their letters to the Secretary Of State.

By Copyleft

October 9, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Only a democrat would worship a presidential candidate. Sad.

Really, Commie? Have you taken down your shrine to Saint Reagan yet?

(snicker)

The simple minds of the far right make it sooo easy to point out the absurdity of fascist thinking.

By annie

October 9, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

I’m curious - do Presidental/ VP candidates have more rights to privacy than you or I? I’m curious because when someone hacked into my yahoo account - no federal charges were brought against the person who did so - so why this 20 year old is being indicted.

By Ga Values

October 9, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

The New designer of the bailour, he claims to be a Free market Republican but what can you expect from Warton.

“When he took to the lectern at the American Enterprise Institute on Sept. 19, Neel Kashkari was a little-known Treasury official on hand to give a PowerPoint presentation on obscure aspects of the nation’s mortgage markets. The small audience gave him a polite but brief round of applause.

Two weeks later, the soft-spoken 35-year-old former Goldman Sachs banker is the most influential money manager in the world.

Named on Monday as the interim head of the Treasury Department’s new Office of Financial Stability, Kashkari will oversee the $700 billion effort to purchase distressed mortgage-related assets from the private sector in a now-desperate effort to save the United States and the global economy from complete economic collapse.

The appointment to run the so-called Troubled Assets Relief Program instantly catapults Kashkari into the same league of global capital titans as Sheikh Ahmed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, who runs the $875 billion Abu Dhabi Investment Authority; Lou Jiwei, chairman of the $200 billion China Investment Corp.; and even the richest man in the world, Warren Buffett, the CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, with its market capitalization of more than $200 billion.

It’s an astonishing leap for a man who started his career as an aerospace engineer, got his MBA at The Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania six years ago and has been in Washington only two years.

Kashkari takes office at a time of deep anxiety in the financial world. His appointment came on a day in which the Dow Jones industrial average suffered yet another dramatic sell-off, dropping 369.88 points, or 3.6 percent, to close at 9,955.50, below the psychologically important 10,000 mark.

Kashkari, it turns out, was one of the original authors of the bailout plan. In a secretive effort over “many, many months,” he was a part of a small team at Treasury working on the plan, said David H. McCormick, under secretary for international affairs.

“It was certainly a contingency that we hoped we wouldn’t need to consider.”

For the next three months, Kashkari will make a slew of decisions about the colossal pool of capital at his disposal — which assets to buy, how to make the purchases and how much to pay. He’ll likely serve until the end of the Bush administration in January. But if he’s successful in jump-starting the credit markets, he might be kept on in a Barack Obama or a John McCain administration for sake of continuity.

In his comments to the American Enterprise Institute, Kashkari focused mostly on explaining technical aspects of financial instruments called “covered bonds.” But he also sketched out Treasury’s broad approach to the housing meltdown.

Although he’ll direct the largest government intervention in the markets in American history, Kashkari told the AEI audience: “I am a free-market Republican.”

“We need to enable the necessary correction to move forward as quickly as possible,” Kashkari said at one point, cutting the air with his hands for emphasis. “We’re having a necessary correction, and we don’t want to do anything to slow it down. We need to get through it.”

Kashkari also made it clear that there’s no “silver bullet” to fix the housing market. “There’s no one tool that’s going to solve all of our problems,” he said.

Kashkari, an Indian-American, grew up outside Akron, Ohio, an area hit particularly hard over the past year by the subprime mortgage crisis. He graduated from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign with bachelor’s and master’s degrees in engineering.”

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Dear Ga Values @ 11:19, I am unenthusiastic about the Fed stepping into commercial paper, much less investing directly in banks. However, I like the argument by Robert Pozen in yesterday’s WSJ (I have a link, but my post failed twice with the link) wherein he argues my theory, urging a larger role for the Fed in the Fed funds market. I think I wrote that on this blog a couple of weeks ago.

Dear JKL @ 11:41, I agree, you are confused. The predominant GOP position is that rapists have the right to die by electrocution or by cocktail.

By David

October 9, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

As an IT Director and former network administrator, I can tell you that what that 20 year old man did was not hacking, it was closer to fraud.

Any person with a base knowledge of Sarah Palin could have done what he did, and it should come as no surprise that he was not a Republican.

What he did was criminal, and now he must face the music.

Our country has enough real problems that need to be addressed without focusing on small-time crooks like this young man.

The real thieves just took $700 billion dollars, voted for by both parties, and signed by your beloved W. This is a crime that need never repeat itself.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

Dear annie @ 12:40, no, but they do have more visibility. A non-theft internet activity such as this case would normally not be worth the bother of a Federal prosecutor, but because of the notoriety of the crime the prosecutor feels compelled to “make an example” of the poor dumb son of a democrat.

By deegee

October 9, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

Dusty, we are no doubt amused. I’m still chuckling over the statement below. Hilarious!

“The abuse heaped by frightened liberals on my conservative brethren and sisteren causes the genial host to wince — until, lo and behold, the good conservative Dusty or one of her many conservative friends on the blog rises up to smite them down with an irrefutable truth incisively delivered.”

By Peter

October 9, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Hey……..By Ragnar Danneskjöld

What are you going to do when this happens ?

‘Perfect storm’ could give Dems ‘magic 60’ in Senate.

Analysts say the November election could give Democrats a filibuster-proof majority.

Looks like allot of Republican lawmakers MAY be going down this election……..?

By Ga Values

October 9, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Editorial from the leftist George Will but a good read

By George F. Will Thursday, October 9, 2008; Page A21

Time was, the Baltimore Orioles’ manager was Earl Weaver, a short, irascible, Napoleonic figure who, when cranky, as he frequently was, would shout at an umpire, “Are you going to get any better or is this it?” With, mercifully, only one debate to go, that is the question about John McCain’s campaign.

In the closing days of his 10-year quest for the presidency, McCain finds it galling that Barack Obama is winning the first serious campaign he has ever run against a Republican. Before Tuesday night’s uneventful event, gall was fueling what might be the McCain-Palin campaign’s closing argument. It is less that Obama has bad ideas than that Obama is a bad person.

This, McCain and his female Sancho Panza say, is demonstrated by bad associations Obama had in Chicago, such as with William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist. But the McCain-Palin charges have come just as the Obama campaign is benefiting from a mass mailing it is not paying for. Many millions of American households are gingerly opening envelopes containing reports of the third-quarter losses in their 401(k) and other retirement accounts — telling each household its portion of the nearly $2 trillion that Americans’ accounts have recently shed. In this context, the McCain-Palin campaign’s attempt to get Americans to focus on Obama’s Chicago associations seems surreal — or, as a British politician once said about criticism he was receiving, “like being savaged by a dead sheep.”

Recently Obama noted — perhaps to torment and provoke conservatives — that McCain’s rhetoric about Wall Street’s “greed” and “casino culture” amounted to “talking like Jesse Jackson.” What fun: one African American Chicago politician distancing himself from another African American Chicago politician by associating McCain with him.

After their enjoyable 2006 congressional elections, Democrats eagerly anticipated that 2008 would provide a second election in which a chaotic Iraq would be at the center of voters’ minds. Today they are glad that has not happened. The success of the surge in Iraq, for which McCain justly claims much credit, is one reason why foreign policy has receded to the margins of the electorate’s mind, thereby diminishing the subject with which McCain is most comfortable and which is Obama’s largest vulnerability.

Tuesday night, McCain, seeking traction in inhospitable economic terrain, said that the $700 billion — perhaps it is $800 billion, or more; one loses track of this fast-moving target — bailout plan is too small. He proposes several hundred billions more for his American Homeownership Resurgence — you cannot have too many surges — Plan. Under it, the government would buy mortgages that homeowners cannot — or perhaps would just rather not — pay, and replace them with cheaper ones. When he proposed this, conservatives participating in MSNBC’s “dial group” wrenched their dials in a wrist-spraining spasm of disapproval.

Still, it may be politically prudent for McCain to throw caution, and billions, to the wind. Obama is competitive in so many states that President Bush carried in 2004 — including Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Iowa, Colorado and New Mexico — it is not eccentric to think he could win at least 350 of the 538 electoral votes.

If that seems startling, that is only because the 2000 and 2004 elections were won with 271 and 286, respectively. In the 25 elections from 1900 to 1996, the winners averaged 402.6. This, even though the 1900 and 1904 elections — before Arizona, New Mexico and Oklahoma attained statehood, and before the size of the House was fixed at 435 members in 1911 — allocated only 447 and 476 electoral votes, respectively. The 12 elections from 1912 through 1956, before Hawaiian and Alaskan statehood, allocated only 531.

In the 25 20th-century elections, only three candidates won with fewer than 300 — McKinley with 292 in 1900, Wilson with 277 in 1916 and Carter with 297 in 1976. President Harry Truman won 303 in 1948 even though Strom Thurmond’s Dixiecrat candidacy won 39 that otherwise would have gone to Truman. After John Kennedy won in 1960 with just 303, the average winning total in the next nine elections, up to the 2000 cliffhanger, was 421.4.

In 1987, on the eve of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher’s third victory, the head of her Conservative Party told a visiting columnist: “Someday, Labour will win an election. Our job is to hold on until they are sane.” Republicans, winners of seven of the past 10 presidential elections, had better hope they have held on long enough.

By findog

October 9, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

Commie @12:31 Where were you for Saint Ron?

Ragnar @12:47 Over the last couple of week I remember that artificially low fed rates helped create the mess; now, walla the market tanks unless they are dropped fifty basis points. The first rule of dealing with addicts is to get them off the drugs; so what is the logic in the fed action?

By Ga Values

October 9, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

Ragnar Danneskjöld 12:47 PM

Like you, I was totally opposed to the Chambliss Bail out but we have it so thinking like an accountant I am thinking how to have the smallest amount stolen & to have the smallest bad effect, I have concluded that the lease bad method is a convertable Preferred stock is the best thing to do. For the life of me I can not understand the bailing out foreign banks out, we will be borrowing from the Arabs/Chineese to bail out the Arabs/Chineese. I know Saxby did not read this bill & got big money for his vote but her really needs to be fired.

By spanky

October 9, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

The way this nation and the anger, resentment, and sheer hostility the liberal left has shown lately, and especially with the under the radar threats that have been written by some Opinion Editors on what would happen if Barack loses, I must say that I hope Barack wins. Not because I like him, not because I support his left wing radical socialist ideology, and certainly not because he’s (half) black. No Sir and no Ma’am. I just do not want this nation really torn apart that would make Bush’s win (or steal, depending on which group of overgrown children on the left you ask) and the previous 8 years of hostility and venom look benign.

Now back to daily business of media bias, there are two snips of articles that need addressing. The first is from CNN yesterday:

WASHINGTON (CNN) — In the face of an economy in crisis and a deeply unpopular president, some analysts believe the situation is ripe to give Democrats a shot at a 60-seat filibuster-proof majority in the Senate in November. Analysts say the November election could give Democrats a filibuster-proof majority. Analysts say the November election could give Democrats a filibuster-proof majority.

It’s “the perfect storm,” said Stuart Rothenberg, editor of the nonpartisan Rothenberg Political Report. “You’ve got Republican voters angry at Republicans, many Americans just petrified about the about the future…wanting change. And right now change appears to be coming in the form of Democrats.

Whats missing in that first paragraph right next to the comment about Bush’s low approval rating? Anyone? Anybody? Did CNN just forget how low Congress’ approval rating is or something? How convenient. A fillibuster proof Dem Congress is just what this nation may need —a catalyst to wake this nation the hell up in four years.

The second article is from the Boston Herald, and it pretty much nails reality: Obama doesn’t have this election bagged; not by a long shot no matter how much ACORN tries to steal this election.

Pollster: Don’t believe the Dem hype By Joe Dwinell & Jessica Fargen Wednesday, October 8, 2008

The presidential race is still too close to call and could come down to the very last weekend before voters decide if they like or distrust Barack Obama, a national pollster predicts.

“I don’t think Obama has closed the deal yet,” pollster John Zogby told the Herald yesterday.

Zogby’s latest poll, released yesterday in conjunction with C-Span and Reuters, shows Obama and John McCain in a statistical dead heat, with the Illinois Democrat up 48-45 percent.

Zogby said the race mirrors the 1980 election, when voters didn’t embrace Ronald Reagan over then-President Jimmy Carter until just days before the election.

I see all kinds of polls, and I just do not trust anything that only has 500-900 people sampled. Nothing can be that random in this nation, especially in red vs. blue counties, let alone states.

Pray America, either way this nation;s election goes, we are pretty much screwed.

By Peter

October 9, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

WOW it is EASY to see there actually is CHANGE going on in America !

‘Rednecks for Obama’ want to bridge yawning culture gap by Michael Mathes Thu Oct 9, 9:50 AM ET

SAINT LOUIS, Missouri (AFP) - When Barack Obama’s campaign bus made a swing through Missouri in July, the unlikeliest of supporters were waiting for him — or rather two of them, holding the banner: “Rednecks for Obama.”

Rednecks4obama.com claims more than 800,000 online visits. In Denver, Colorado, Viessman and Spencer drew crowds at the Democratic convention, and at Washington University last Thursday they were two of the most popular senior citizens on campus.

“I’m shocked, actually, but excited” that such a demographic would be organizing support for Obama, said student Naia Ferguson, 18, said after hamming it up for pictures behind the banner.

“When most people think ‘redneck,’ they think conservatives, anti-change, even anti-integration,” she said. “But America’s changing, breaking stereotypes.”

My next though is ……..

Gee how BIG will the LANDSLIDE BE ?

By mm

October 9, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Jim,

Your article today is as insane as your blogging brethren and sistren rants are.

By Jim S

October 9, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

This is what you write about now…how substantive. I guess it’s not very popular to write about all the ‘market is god-like’ subjects you’ve been espousing the past several years. Oh well, I suppose you’ll just have to continue to whine about all the liberals out there…poor thing, did it get its feelings hurt!!! waaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaa! In the words of the Great (Big) Georgian Mark Taylor, “Cry me a river.”

By CrazyPeeps

October 9, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this

As long and Obama keeps getting his butt kissed by the liberal media these things will continue to happen:

Most of the libs. here condone these activities of associations…… Go figure. They are drunk on the Obama potion. They think its perfectly fine to set morals, responsibility, accountability and honor aside. Just look at how they disagree with conservatives and the author of this blog….

Attack people… Insult people… Deceive people… These are the traits of the Democratic Party in 2008

How can reasonable responsible people expect more from any of the brainwashed liberal posters on this Blog. they are just following the leader of the band.

McCain/Palin 2008

By Copyleft

October 9, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

Meanwhile, conservatives will continue to applaud Palin’s pathetic attempt to tie Obama to “terrorists,” and will silently approve when cheering Republicans scream the n-word at their rallies.

You were saying something about ‘being judged by the company you keep,’ right? And we’ve seen the ignorant hatred and bigotry that underlies all fascist thought processes and keeps them voting Republican….

By B

October 9, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this

Wooten I always thought you were an ignorant a$$ and this piece of nonsense you have the nerve to call journalism confirms it.

By Thinking Correctly

October 9, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

“It’s brutal sometimes. The abuse heaped by frightened liberals on my conservative brethren and sisteren causes the genial host to wince”

Boo Hoo Wooten. Since when is allowing people to state their opinions considered abuse? If defending your own positions is proving so difficult, maybe its time to reexamine them, rather than blaming others who come to a different conclusion.

By getalife

October 9, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

“America’s national debt has outgrown the ticker designed to draw attention to it, the BBC reports. The Times Square counter, set up in 1989 when the debt was a mere $2.7 trillion, ran out of space for digits recently when the debt ballooned to more than $10 trillion. Its owners have temporarily removed the dollar sign to make space for an extra number—and plan to add enough room to record up to a quadrillion dollars in debt.”

What is scary?

☺b☻ma? Nah.

Terrorists? uh uh.

Corporate greed? Yep, yep.

By B

October 9, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

Wooten I always thought you were an ignorant a$$ and this piece of nonsense you have the nerve to call journalism confirms it.

By tcoach

October 9, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

You named people that come to her rallies. Those named in association with Obama He sought out or worked for. That is slightly different. But you are correct I would like to see Palin and McCain say something to those type of chants, since she did discourage a voter who said something about her being a hottie.

But the association of those who come to hear you speak and then the association of those you choose to work with and be mentored by is 2 vastly different things.

By findog

October 9, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

Jim,

I have so much as admitted that I will play a left leaning Obama supporter on this blog for no other reason but to be able to argue with some intelligent people. While Rangar has on occasion trounced my moderate views his is a voice of reason I can, much more often than not, accept as an accurate assessment of the topic at hand. That you chose the cool aid dispensing Dusty as the patron Saint of conservative sanity yesterday afternoon has me wondering if you have been hacked by one of the Red Necks. As to the search for the guilty party I was voted least likely to make it in a job requiring computer literacy when I graduated from college a dozen years ago; and if anyone would have believed where computers have taken us today I would have garnered that same distinction upon graduation from community college two-dozen years ago…

By Commander Guy

October 9, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Obama said:

“I am surprised that, you know, we’ve been seeing some pretty over-the-top attacks coming out of the McCain campaign over the last several days, that he wasn’t willing to say it to my face. But I guess we’ve got one last debate. So presumably, if he ends up feeling that he needs to, he will raise it during the debate.”

Obama is calling out the chicken5hit of Hanoi. McCain is a pu55y, as bad as the trashtalkers on Wooten’s board.

And yes, I’d say it to McCain’s face.

By Commander Guy

October 9, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Obama said:

“I am surprised that, you know, we’ve been seeing some pretty over-the-top attacks coming out of the McCain campaign over the last several days, that he wasn’t willing to say it to my face. But I guess we’ve got one last debate. So presumably, if he ends up feeling that he needs to, he will raise it during the debate.”

Obama is calling out the chicken5hit of Hanoi. McCain is a pu55y, as bad as the trashtalkers on Wooten’s board.

And yes, I’d say it to McCain’s face.

By Commander Guy

October 9, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Obama said:

“I am surprised that, you know, we’ve been seeing some pretty over-the-top attacks coming out of the McCain campaign over the last several days, that he wasn’t willing to say it to my face. But I guess we’ve got one last debate. So presumably, if he ends up feeling that he needs to, he will raise it during the debate.”

Obama is calling out the chicken5hit of Hanoi. McCain is a pu55y, as bad as the trashtalkers on Wooten’s board.

And yes, I’d say it to McCain’s face.

By getalife

October 9, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

Racism in Ga?

White Powder!

By CrazyPeeps

October 9, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

What news outlet did you pull that comment from Commander Guy?

I give McCain credit for staying civil…. Maybe McCain feels there is no need to repeat it if everyone else is saying it. Especially while the Obama camp and James Caraville in particular try to play the “race card” to Obama’s advantage with talks of rioting if McCain wins………

Just another irresponsible comment from a liberal, with dangerous implications for all. James Caraville is a Buffoon for saying that.

By tcoach

October 9, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

don’t believe you candidate guy if you were on national television I don’t tink you would say it to his face that is why you act so tough on a blog because you do not have to say anything to anyones face. Quit trying to act like a tough guy. You may yell it at adistance like most nutjobs do but I highly doubt you would say it to any big time politicians face you softie.

By Steve

October 9, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

So, what you’re saying is you agree with Roe v. Wade that a right to privacy is guaranteed to Americans?

By Dusty

October 9, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

Well, I just got back and what fun!! Liberals moaning, groaning, insulting and being more rabid than a pack of wild dogs.

Jim Wooten, PLEASE WRITE ANOTHER ‘LIGHT’ COLUMN. It drives the liberals CRAZY!! It turns their world upside down. They are plainly “losing it”.

So what’s the Obama camp doing today? Trying to ignore Rezko, Jeremiah Wright, Acorn, muslim schooling, Ayers while declaring McCain was simply enjoying a picnic as a POW??

Or a blogger here who said nobody investigated when someone hacked into her private affairs so why were officials checking Palin’s hacker???? I tell you… Liberals are dreary but still good for a few laughs.

Ragnar, thanks for the explanation. I knew it was not you @9:48. Just some degenerate too cowardly to take credit for his own lack of character. Typical liberal blogger???

Would somebody please mention “Findog”? He feels left out. Nobody mentioned HIM(2:21) So…. FINDOG!! There! Hope you feel better.

By K_Chub

October 9, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA - Wooten you are such a tool. HAHAHAHAHA - getting tired of writing about how McTard is going to lose this election? HAHAHAHAHA

By findog

October 9, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

Spanky @1:23 The problem with generic congressional poll numbers is too many people think THEIR representative and senator are doing a good job; its everyone ELSES that needs to be replaced…

CrazyPeeps @2:45 It is well known that the candidate never utter the ugliness; like Senator McCain four years ago tut-tutting the swift-boat ads while attaching the Soros sponsored haters going after President Bush; with a whole new class of political speech he helped create. Giving him credit for staying civil is not giving it where it’s due, unless he were to really stand up and say anyone speaking the half-truth hate speech would have no place in his administration nor access as a lobbyist. And since your dishonest standard is just John versus the whole Obama campaign for who is spreading fictions you lose your footing for decency.

By K_Chub

October 9, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Hey Wooten - why don’t you and Dusty go spoon for a little while as you contemplate life without a Republican in the White House. You are such a coward Wooten - you spew all this bile about liberals and then you practically wet your pants when liberals point out where you and your bankrupt ideology are wrong. Any idiot Republican can write the crap you write - what value do you have when all you do is write talking points? Now you’re crying about it because you are wrong - you’re such a loser.

By Palin' around with the Palins

October 9, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her d-mned institutions. The fires of Hell are glaciers compared to my hate for the American government.”

Palin GOOD BUDDY Joe Vogler, who, though did not have Sunday dinner at the Palins’ house, did found a secessionist party with TODD PALIN JOINED, and under Sarah Palin’s own definition, a “PAL” of theirs.

Why do the Palins hate America? Why did John McCain select an America hater to run with?

By Kevin

October 9, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

I wonder if any of the readers recalled seeing an article from the Orange County (Fl) Register dated 06/25/2008 entitled, “The Orange Grove: Obama wants a Tiger-size tax bite”?

When Tiger Woods won the US Open he collected $1,350,000. His federal and Calif taxes would have been approx. $586,000 allowing hin to keep 57% of the winnings. Under the Obama plan, assuming it has not changed since June, that tax bite would be approx. $776,000 allowing him to keep only 43%.

I have to think that the Hollywood and other air head media types supporting Obama don’t understand that they will see an increase of 32% in their taxes if Obama is elected and implements his income redistribution plan.

Delicious irony. And if the economy really goes south after Obama’s tax increases are passed, it will be sad irony that people who voted for Obama might be laid off because of his punatative effect on the economy.

By Frost

October 9, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this

Obama in position to steal Virginia from GOP AP

so which red state is safe???????

With only 9 points seperating them,GEORGIA is in Play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By findog

October 9, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Dusty @3:03

Thank you so much, if that was you, yours being the most hacked handle here who could tell who they are corresponding with? While cognitive dissonance: a psychological conflict resulting from incongruous beliefs and attitudes held simultaneously, currently has no know cure there is always hope and I join all you fans who wish you happiness…

By K_Chub

October 9, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

Frost,

I think it is safe to assume that the uneducated redneck strongholds of Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas, Louisianna, Arkansas and Tennessee will all stay red. Nothing is going to change that anytime soon.

By BobbyK

October 9, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

In 2004, America’s malleable mainstream media allowed itself to be manipulated by artful Republican operatives into devoting weeks of broadcast attention and drums of ink to unfairly desecrating John Kerry’s genuine Vietnam heroics while obligingly muzzling serious discussion of George W. Bush’s shameful wartime record of evasion and cowardice.

Last week found the American media once again boarding Republican swift boats against this season’s Democratic candidate armed with unfair and hypocritical attacks artfully designed by GOP strategists to distract attention from the cataclysmic outcomes of Republican governance. Vice Presidential hopeful Sarah Palin has taken to faulting Senator Barack Obama for his casual acquaintance with a respected Illinois educator Bill Ayers, who forty years ago was a member of the Weathermen, a movement active when Obama was eight and which he has denounced as “detestable.” Palin argues that the relationship proves that Obama sees “America as being so imperfect that he is palling around with terrorists who would target their own country.”

The Times dedicated a page one article to Obama’s relations with Ayers and CNN’s Anderson Cooper obliged Palin by rewarding her reckless accusations about Obama’s patriotism with a major investigative report. Fox, meanwhile, is still riveting its audience with wall to wall coverage of this pressing irrelevancy.

But if McCarthy-era guilt-by-association is once again a valid political consideration, Palin, it would seem, has more to lose than Obama. Palin, it could be argued, following her own logic, thinks so little of America’s perfection that she continues to “pal around” with a man—her husband, actually—who only recently terminated his seven-year membership in the Alaskan Independence Party. Putting plunder above patriotism, the members of this treasonous cabal aim to break our country into pieces and walk away with Alaska’s rich federal oil fields and one-fifth of America’s land base—an area three-fourths the size of the Civil War Confederacy.

AIP’s charter commits the party “to the ultimate independence of Alaska,” from the United States which it refers to as “the colonial bureaucracy in Washington.” It proclaims Alaska’s 1959 induction as a state “as illegal and in violation of the United Nations charter and international law.”

AIP’s creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler, “I’m an Alaskan, not an American,” reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP’s current website, “I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.” According to Vogler AIP’s central purpose was to drive Alaska’s secession from the United States. Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, “should be an independent nation.”

Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad. The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that, “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government.” He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, “I won’t be buried under their damned flag…when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.” Palin has never denounced Vogler or his detestable anti-Americanism.

Palin’s husband Todd remained an AIP party member from 1995 to 2002. Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a “fellow traveler.” While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP’s 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska. The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP’s 2000 Convention. She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP’s 2006 convention and she recorded a video greeting for this year’s 2008 convention. In other words, this is not something that happened when she was eight!

So when Palin accuses Barack of “not seeing the same America as you and me,” maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska. In any case, isn’t it time the media start giving equal time to Palin’s buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?

-Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

By K_Chub

October 9, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Frost,

I think it is safe to assume that the uneducated redneck strongholds of Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas, Louisianna, Arkansas and Tennessee will all stay red. Nothing is going to change that anytime soon.

By Cornbread Fred

October 9, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Greetings, Jim! For the time being at least, I’m giving up trying to enlighten the partisan America dividers left and right who post here so let’s have some fun: You refer to liberals as “hurtful” and “frightened” (maybe), conservatives as “kind” (huh?), “well-informed”, “intelligent” and “well prepared”, then tout the opinions of a blogger (who happens to agree with you) as “irrefutable truth” - why don’t you and I form a comedy team?!? We could get rich with material as imaginative as this! As for orange jump suits for privacy robbers, Dubya and the rest of the architects of the ill-named “Patriot act” would look absolutely dashing in them!

By Dusty

October 9, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

Dear Findog,3:34

Yes, I did post a helpful message for you. And yes, liberals do frquently steal IDs as they are too incompetent to think on their own and must blame their inadequacies on others.

Now that endorphens have invaded your cranial constitution let us further endeavor to establish the magnanimous moments in the Presidental manner of our prestigious John McCain.

There are only a few that can match his bravery under torture for his country, his education at Annapolis as a protector of our country, his long service in Congress chairing important committees, his firm stand against unleashed subprime mortgage institutions and his long standing efforts to prevent higher taxes and “pork” additions.

Enjoy, FINDOG. I did not want you to forget those good points while you fritter away the long hours.

By alan

October 9, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

As a paleo Conservative (Real Conservative) and not a Republican (Republican= 5 Cents right of a Democrat) I don’t understand how a Republican can call anyone a Liberal. Republicans are Liberals. gEORGE bUSH IS THE BIGEST SPENDER OF ALL TIME AND THE rEPUBLICANS LOVED IT. George Bush uses our troups for political wars (Liberal). George Bush never vetoed an earmarked pork loaded bill, and the Republicans loved it. Hey Republicans you are what you hate. McCain is more LIberal than Hillary. How can you vote for someone more liberal than Hillary? Bunch of Liberal Republicans. Bob Barr for President, so what if Obama gets it, Republicans will probably love it.

By Stan

October 9, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

Jim, this is a pitiful article. You and the other “Joe Sixpacks” of America wouldn’t know the meaning of “intelligent” if it back-handed you. You are all so stuck in your racist, uneducated past. Surrounded by walls and moats that refuse to allow anything in the way of positive ideas inside. Obsessed with a President who has brought this nation to its suffering knees and set the entire Middle East aflame. Caused our “allies” to rightfully despise us. And you want even MORE of it - worshipping the never-a-hero liar McCain who represents all of the above and many of the worst “attributes” in our society. It is impossible for you stunted goons to harbor a positive, progressive thought. Truly you are embarrassments to humankind. Your lives are made up of hatred, bitterness, jealousy, resentment, personal failure, psychopathicity - and you cannot rise above any of it. Goose-stepping goons of conformity.

By BT fan

October 9, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Our economic woes began under Democrat Jimmy Carter with the Community Reinvestment Act, a law stating banks have to make loans to low income areas and it forced many institutions to make loans lenders would not normally attempt because of risk and low property values.

In 1995, Bil Clinton made changes to the Community Reinvestment Act, that FORCED an increase in the numbers to these people and the aggregate dollar amounts were loaned.Larger loans with less income i areas where the collateral value would go DOWN. Vote s upcoming election.

In 1995, Bill Clinton signed to repeal Glass-Steagall act which had protected tax payers since Great Depression.

In 2003, President Bush TRIED to propose a change in the REGULTORY CONTROL over Freddie Mac and Freddie Mae, but was voted down, lead by liberal Democrat Barney Franks.

Obama two most trusted advisors are Jim Johnson($24,000,000) Freddie Mac severance) and Franklin Raines($90,000,000 in six years) Fannie Mae salalry. Obama has received $126,000 from both institution .

Chris Dodd is the Poster boy for Countrywide another govt subsidize program

News media prints only one prejudice side ex. ajc

By Satan

October 9, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Sorry, reposting under my correct name:

Jim, this is a pitiful article. You and the other “Joe Sixpacks” of America wouldn’t know the meaning of “intelligent” if it back-handed you. You are all so stuck in your racist, uneducated past. Surrounded by walls and moats that refuse to allow anything in the way of positive ideas inside. Obsessed with a President who has brought this nation to its suffering knees and set the entire Middle East aflame. Caused our “allies” to rightfully despise us. And you want even MORE of it - worshipping the never-a-hero liar McCain who represents all of the above and many of the worst “attributes” in our society. It is impossible for you stunted goons to harbor a positive, progressive thought. Truly you are embarrassments to humankind. Your lives are made up of hatred, bitterness, jealousy, resentment, personal failure, psychopathicity - and you cannot rise above any of it. Goose-stepping goons of conformity.

By Republicans R Crooks

October 9, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Jim is a Clown….How else to explain today’s ignorant p** poor column? The clown wants us to laugh….ah kin assure the clown that I laugh everytime ah reads its nonsense….AH HOPE JIM LOST A BUNDLE ON TODAYS MARKET MELTDOWN…HA HA HA…

By Buck

October 9, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Obama has the best Health care plan, and it costs less. Obama has the best Mideast War plan (get Bin Laden - the one who attached us) Obama gives me 1000 dollars (Tax cut) and McCain gives me 300 dollars (Plus McCain thinks I can buy Health Insurance for 5000 dollars tax credit - try 10000 minimum for a policy) McCain loves lobbyists but says he doesn’t, no ‘change’ there. McCain can’t talk about the real issues, just name calling. Wh would anyone vote for McCain

By Democrats R Kooks

October 9, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Hope you collapsed a lung while laughing at Jim’s column and are now suffocating on the floor. Doghead.

By getalife

October 9, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

Well, we are at 8500 and 5000 more to drop.

I wonder if all these trillions they are throwing at it will keep it from going below daddy bush’s recession levels?

Giving this money to Paulson and his VP is a terrible mistake. They should be forced to resign but still no accountability in this country.

The FBI needs to open a special division for this bailout because these criminals are too greedy to not steal it.

By Dusty

October 9, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

K-Chub

Your ignorance and partiality is so brazen that it is pointless to even mention it.

Go out and chop some wood or something. It won’t change your stunted senses but it will keep you from posting stupid stuff here.

Buck,

Obama DOES NOT have a healthcare plan. He offers socialized medicine for the HIS communist workers. You give all your money to him. He furnishes healthcare.

By FSG

October 9, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Is there a blog for rational moderates? Hard to find room between the LW & RW shouting at each other.

This is feeling a lot like ‘96…it’s looking bad. The only advantage that McCain has over Dole is that McCain seems to have the knack of springing surprises and reshaping the race. I can really see W Pa, Iowa, and Wisconsin spinning this thing quick, despite what the pollsters say; the real problem is people voting for who is “supposed” to win, because it’s easier than thinking for themselves.

It’s probably time for the Dems to get full control though - time to remind the country why they don’t elect too many liberal democrats to the WH. Who will they blame when government control doesn’t magically fix everything? Only lasted two years the last time…

Obama will be an OK president - strikes me as a Wilson type, and that’s fine. Only problem is the same one Gore has - too much Analysis Paralysis when things break, and action needs to be taken. The real trick is going to be how badly Congress screws things up. Could we a good solid malaria outbreak in DC to send everybody home for a couple of years, so they stop spending my tax money for a while?

Remember, this is when the waters began to recede.

Jindal/Kantor ‘12

By Beau L. Chevik

October 9, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

I hope when comrade Obama is elected, he will grant me dachas in both Hawaii and Havana.

By Peter

October 9, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

Well Folks…..

Looks like McCain has aliened himself from another group………

So we see……. EDUCATION is REALLY NOT Important to REPUBLICANS !

Don’t mess with scientists

Thu Oct 9, 2:55 PM ET

If there’s one rule in election-year politics, it’s this: Don’t mess with the science crowd. OK, labor unions and the NRA matter too, but John McCain may want to brush up on his stars and planets after Tuesday night’s debate.

In the debate, McCain portrayed Barack Obama as an excessive spender, and he punctuated his attack (twice) with this example:

“[Obama] voted for nearly a billion dollars in pork barrel earmark projects, including, by the way, $3 million for an overhead projector at a planetarium in Chicago, Illinois. My friends, do we need to spend that kind of money?”

Turns out, a lot of people think we do. This is no ordinary overhead projector from your 5th grade classroom. The blog Cosmic Variance sums it up:

“If you’ve ever had the pleasure of visiting the Adler Planetarium, you’d probably guess that the ‘overhead projector’ he’s talking about is the spectacular ‘Sky Theater’ — one of the most engrossing, gorgeous venues for displaying visuals about space.”

The science community is notoriously tight-knit, especially when rallying to a cause, and boy are they are rallying to this one. Alan Boyle’s Cosmic Log has a great summary of the uproar:

-“For McCain to use this as a political zinger is insulting…” (Bad Astronomy)

-“Planetariums are Bridges to the Future, and America would be a much better place if all the congressional earmarks went to projects like them.” (The Perfect Silence)

-“The logo for Senator John McCain’s campaign has a star in the middle. I wonder what his guide star is? It can’t be the same one that ten million children have seen at the Adler Planetarium. Why should anyone want their star to dim?” (Discovery Space)

The Adler Planetarium even issued a statement, noting that the request, ironically, was not even funded:

“To clarify, the Adler Planetarium requested federal support — which was not funded — to replace the projector in its historic Sky Theater, the first planetarium theater in the Western Hemisphere…. To remain competitive and ensure national security, it is vital that we educate and inspire the next generation of explorers to pursue careers in science, technology, engineering and math.”

Linking a planetarium to national security may be a bit of a stretch, but the point is clear: McCain probably shouldn’t count on the “science vote” this year.

Yes folks..If you want an Education for your kids…….

DO NOT VOTE REPUBLICAN……. !!!!!!!

By BT fan

October 9, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

Our economic woes began under Democrat Jimmy Carter with the Community Reinvestment Act, a law stating banks have to make loans to low income areas and it forced many institutions to make loans lenders would not normally attempt because of risk and low property values.

In 1995, Bil Clinton made changes to the Community Reinvestment Act, that FORCED an increase in the numbers to these people and the aggregate dollar amounts were loaned.Larger loans with less income i areas where the collateral value would go DOWN. Vote s upcoming election.

In 1995, Bill Clinton signed to repeal Glass-Steagall act which had protected tax payers since Great Depression.

In 2003, President Bush TRIED to propose a change in the REGULTORY CONTROL over Freddie Mac and Freddie Mae, but was voted down, lead by liberal Democrat Barney Franks.

Obama two most trusted advisors are Jim Johnson($24,000,000) Freddie Mac severance) and Franklin Raines($90,000,000 in six years) Fannie Mae salalry. Obama has received $126,000 from both institution .

Chris Dodd is the Poster boy for Countrywide another govt subsidize program

News media prints only one prejudice side ex. ajc

By Joe

October 9, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

Conservatives are such whiners. Get a life buddy.

By Van

October 9, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

Just think about Palin being president. If that vision does not scare you then you are just plain stupid.

I would have considered McCain for president until he picked Palin as a political stunt.

Now, forget about it.

By SayNo2McCain

October 9, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

Nov. 5th will be a new day in this country. January 22nd will be the turning point for the world too see.

I can hardly contain myself, with this possibility.

I just wish that things were not as bad(the economy, world crises, natural disasters, unemployment, gas/energy crisis, home foreclosure, etc)….

This will definitely put a very exciting chapter in the History books. Our financial structure will need to be rebuilt and hopefully there will be New and Improved RULES and Consequences.

However, I can only see and feel the Hatred, Bitterness and Resentment that will come from the Republicans in this country.

Thou not let Obama make a minor mistake as President, because they will make a bigger issue than they did of the Monica Lewenski scandal.

They will try to IMPEACH him at every cost and at every level.

The GOOD thing is that the OBAMA’s know this and will make us ALL proud.

Not only that, but he has GREAT people in this country (of all races and nationalities) who will HAVE HIS BACK. That’s what makes his success so GREAT, he is supported my people of different backgrounds, nationalities, races, religion and educational levels.

So take a CHILL PILL Mr. WOOTEN and MS. DUSTY. We have a since of HUMOR, but DO YOU?

By Dusty

October 9, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

5:15

I see. You think that if Obama is elected he will be treated like Democrats treated George W. Bush. Now that would be unfair, wouldn’t it?? Just awful!

Naw, Republicans have standards. They don’t go for the low stuff that’s been squeezed out for eight years by Democrats. Nope…

Liberals DO have a sense of humor after all. All these jokes about Obama being presdident!! Woohoo. Not bad.

By Ga Values

October 9, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

Where Saxby Chambliss gets his money::

Agri Business—-$1,368,000 Banks, Insurance, Real Estate—-$1,332,000 Lawyers & Individual Lobbyist——$641,000 Misc Business —-$679,000 Other ——$606,000..

The Agi Business got a gift of $20 billion waste from Saxby’s Farm Bill. The Banks, Real Estate & Lawyers just got a $2 TRILLION gift from the Bail Out the Banks act which Saxby & Johnny voted for. Not a bad return on your money.

By Jim is a caveman

October 9, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

I’m a “leftist” and I got the joke. I think the comment about Dusty is the funniest thing Wooten has ever written. Ragnar, where do you come off saying “cooter” is leftist slang? I agree it is slang, but leftist? You mean no moderate or right winger or libertarian uses the phrase? do you have some proof of the “leftist” origins of the term? Or are you just taking gratuitous shots such as the ones you take others to task for?

By getalife

October 9, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this

Palin: Obama Would Diminish “Prestige Of The Presidency”.

Um, I think w accomplished that mission and should resign in the morning.

I think we can all agree, Obama ran a good campaign.

It will be change having someone with a brain as our President.

The end of w should be declared a Holiday to celebrate.

By CrazyPeeps

October 9, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

Findog McCain = Decency, courage and honor

Obama = deceit, deception, and intimidation.

McCain has done more for his country in the time before Obama was born, then Obama has done his whole life. And skip the slanderous plane crashing BS…. Lots of pilots crashed planes in Viet Nam. Have some respect for a change. Ignorance regarding anyones military service, should not be stood for by anyone from either party…..

Obama- Wanna buy a telescope? Hold a fund raiser in your neighborhood……..

An item like that, Chicago folks should pony up for, not tax dollars collected from the entire country. If you think that was a reasonable request for a Senator to make, then you are very naive. Just like the author of the request.

That is the truth. No offense, but it is.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

Dear Caveman @ 5:41, the topic of the day was “how leftists on the blog force discussions to the most common levels.” It’s my little joke - trying to get in the spirit of things.

By Ga Values

October 9, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this

Stole this from the Peach Pundit, sad but true..

“I just heard on Fox that Ayers tried to blow up the US Capitol. If I were Obama I’d be highlighting that fact.

Blowing up the Capitol is the Change We Deserve!”

By CrazyPeeps

October 9, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

GA Values 6:11pm This is one of the single most stupid comments I have ever seen here.

The Capitol is a symbol for the world. It stands for alot of things you obviously care not to understand.

Barrack Obama is a symbol for many also…Is this what we do to our symbols?

Get out of the gutter and offer more responsible commentary.

By Jim is a caveman

October 9, 2008 6:47 PM | Link to this

sorry, I didn’t get the joke. I’ll try to look closer next time.

By GayGrayGeek

October 9, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this

Shyster @ 6:11 - Actually, the Topic Du Jour was projection of panic and “fright” from Paleocons upon all non-cons, whom the Paleocons call “liberals”.

By Devastator

October 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

The McCain campaign is on the ropes, and sadly it’s no surprise they’re responding with attacks and outright lies.

I’ve heard some pretty unspeakable things in the past few days — deeply offensive smears that we’ll hear over and over again until Election Day.

John McCain and Governor Palin are setting a new low in presidential politics with their dishonorable campaign.

Barack and I are out there every day fighting back. But we need your help.

Will you make a donation of $25 or more right now? Show John McCain and Sarah Palin that when they attack us with lies and smears, it literally makes our campaign stronger.

After last night’s debate, it’s clear why John McCain doesn’t want to talk about the issues facing ordinary Americans — especially the economy, which his own advisers admit he can’t talk about without losing.

Barack won last night by offering clear plans to rebuild our economy from the bottom up, lower healthcare costs, and end the war in Iraq responsibly.

McCain tried to push more of the same disastrous Bush administration policies — more tax cuts for the wealthy and giant corporations, deregulating the healthcare industry and taxing employer-based healthcare plans, and continuing to spend $10 billion a month in Iraq.

So what’s left for the McCain campaign? Negative attacks and lies.

And it’s even worse from some of the well-funded outside groups supporting McCain, whose sole purpose is tearing Barack down with smears.

Instead of focusing on the issues that really matter, our opponents are doing everything they can to encourage this toxic atmosphere.

We cannot stand by and let them get away with it.

We need to increase the cost of these desperate tactics for McCain’s campaign. Will you make a donation of $25 or more right now?

https://donate.barackobama.com/costofnegativity

Thanks for your support,

Joe

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this

Dear Caveman @ 6:47, think of it as an Easter egg, and you were the only one who found it.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 9, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

I’ll raise the unspeakable, in advance of Friday stock trading. We all agree the market is prospective - what is the possibility that, like American leftists, the market is falling for Obama? It is at least theoretically possible that the market could be spooked by a Marxist head of government. If I am right, the market will recover to its pre-plunge levels on election of McCain.

By CrazyPeeps

October 9, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this

Devestatator aka; Joe or the other way around………..

The only Party/Campaign doing any smearing is the Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign………

-Breaking into e.mail accounts

-James Caraville threatening riots by Obama supportes if he does not win.

-The assorted BS by Obama’s favorite grassroots special interest group ACORN

-And lets not forget the Kings of Smear Rev. Wright, and Father Flager.

In your haste to try and own the word so that the McCain campaign cannot use it against Obama, you should really do some research first.

McCain can use the “smear” word in alot of place where his reputation, his service, and his integrity have been insulted by brazen respect lacking Obama supporters.

You must be the same guy who put an “Obama” Campaign sign in your yard, and scowel at the neighbor who excersises the same right, and puts a McCain/Palin sign in his…….

I have seen this form of racism many times, and I see it encouraged by Obama supporters here. Disgusting….. You cannot be proud of that I hope.

By Ga Values

October 9, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this

Proof That There Are Alternate Planes of Existance! I Went To Bed In One And Woke Up In Another!

Posted by: AceInTX

Thursday, October 9, 2008 at 05:21PM CDT

2 Comments

OK…so there’s always been this theory that there are many different planes of existence along the space time continuum. I now know this to be a fact!

What’s that? How do I know? Well…I’ve lived all my life in a world where the Democrat Party was the party of government expansion and socialist engineering of everything from our social lives to the economy. In that other plane of existence it was the Republican Party that is the party of limited government. It’s the Republican Party that opposes big government solutions for every social and economic ill.

Well, now I’m on a totally different plane. In the debates the other night, John Sydney McCain came out in favor of the Federal Government coming in and buying up homeowner mortgages, renegotiating the terms of the mortgage and selling the homes back to the mortgage holder at the lower property value that exists in that Market. As a commercial Real Estate agent…I can tell you what a nut brained idea that really is. Let’s say the property values in a certain price range have fallen say 5% in value…You’re a homeowner who has done every thing right…you’ve paid your bills you didn’t over extend on your mortgage…you’ve been investing in your home and you’ve built up equity in this home. As things are…if nothing is done…in the short term, you will lose 5% of your equity and all will be well in a few short years after the market’s have sorted themselves out. Then let’s suppose the neighbors on either side of you are in danger of being foreclosed…so after the “Republican” candidate passes this idiocy, these neighbors go to the government and ask this new agency to bail them out and renegotiate their mortgage. So…along comes Billy Bureaucrat riding in on his white horse to save the day. Billy Bureaucrat does a study on the neighborhood and decides the market in your neighborhood hasn’t fallen 5%…but has actually fallen 20%…Now…as I understand this…Billy Bureaucrat turns in a report and the government buys up the mortgages of your irresponsible neighbors. Then these homes are sold back to your neighbors at the new value…of course these mortgages are closed as any other sale is closed and the new bank liens are recorded with the appraisals and mortgage liens included. Guess what that does for the comparable sales of the homes in that neighborhood? Guess what just happened to the equity in your home…instead of the market sorting this out…and you losing 5% of the equity in your home…now you lose an additional 15% equity!

In this new plane of existence, it is Barack Obama, the Democrat candidate that opposes this socialist scheme! It is the Democrat that is taking the conservative position in this foolishness. In the old plane of existence, Obama is known as the most liberal Senator in the United States Senate. He is the Golden Child, The One, The Messiah to all those Socailist/Communist left wing fanatics who live to increase government intervention in our markets. In the other plane of existence, Barry, (as he’s derisively called by the Republican Party) is the candidate of the left.

Well…here I am…in the new plane…McCain is for this crazy scheme, and Barry is against it. In this plane, the Democrat politician is taking the most popular, (conservative) position in the polls against this scheme…and it is the Republican candidate that is pushing for a socialist takeover of the mortgage market against the will of the American electorate according to all the polls on this subject. It is John Sydney McCain who want’s to put the Washington Bureaucracy in charge of choosing winners and losers in the real estate market!

You know what…maybe in this plane of existence, Congressman James Trafficant is still in the Congress in stead of cooling his heels in the federal pen…In that case…”BEAM ME UP SCOTTY!”.

By WashingtonState

October 9, 2008 11:26 PM | Link to this

Telescopes heck. Go where the money is. Go for Savings and Loan Institutions. Take a lesson from McCain.

By WashingtonState

October 10, 2008 12:14 AM | Link to this

“With that said, our current situation is partially if not more responsible by Barney Frank socialism of giving cheap loans to people who couldn’t really afford them long term due to a shady credit history or financial background.”

I hear that a lot these days. Must be another Republican talking point: Blame the current economic collapse on good intentioned but dimwitted Democrats. For the few of you who really want a history of this particular talking point, it starts with the Community Reinvestment Act of 1997, This bill said, in essence, that if someone had adequate credit, they could not be denied a mortgage because of where they lived. (it used to be called red lining back in those days.) For an in depth look at how this innocuous bill is being blamed for the present financial collapse, this article is must reading. [It makes it clear that there is no connection between this act and the present financial collapse.] (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2008229403-opin05froma.html) As usual, the collapse is due to unfettered greed. The achilles heel of Republican economic theory is that people will do anything for money and power if left to their own devices.

By WashingtonState

October 10, 2008 12:21 AM | Link to this

Try that link again.

By Eli Jones

October 10, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this

Obama will try anything to get elected. Obama had his opponents disqualified in Illinois on technicalities so he could run unopposed. Now Obama is using his proxies like ACORN to steal the election. People that vote for this lying, corrupt nobody should have their perception checked and then rechecked. Look at the people that have endorsed him, look at his long time terrorists associates, his connection to his Kenyan Islamic murdering cousin Raila Odingo, look at his Kenyan Islamic jihadist brother who is a follower of Odinga, Abongo Obama. Obama lost any credibility with me during the Jeremiah Wright show. Check out the following names on the net for they are all in Obama’s camp. Would you have them for your friends? Tony Rezko Michelle Obama Louis Farrakhan William Ayres Bernadine Dorhn Ahmad Yousuf (Hamas) Frank Marshall Davis Michelle Obama Father Pfleger Rev Wright George Soros Raila Odingo Abongo Obama Black Panthers Fidel Castro Jeremiah Wright Rashid Khalidi Nadhmi Auchi Rev Meeks

By Jamison

October 10, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

I LOVE how bright kids think they can do anything on the internet and not be caught. And our tax dollars educate mindless morons like this? “I have an idea, I will hack into the email account of one of the most well known women in the USA right now… there is no WAY i can possibly get caught! And since daddy is so powerful, he can cover for me!”

Makes me ashamed to be from Tennessee.

Just wait, he WILL be hired by a libreal group and his job will be to do exactly what he did here. Just wait.

By Janice Wilson

October 11, 2008 6:15 AM | Link to this

I hate to admit it but McCain and Palin are liars. There’s no doubt Palin was caught red handed! The McCain campaign prides itself on straight talk and while inquiring “Who is the real Barack Obama?”. Maybe they can answer the question, who is the real Sarah Palin? The GOP has two candidates in the General Election with questionable judgement and temperment. This should have been the second time Sarah Palin was found guilty of Abuse of Power. The first time was when she demanded her teenage daughter to marry her boyfriend before the media realized she was pregnant. Coming from a female Republican, Sarah Palin was a horrible choice to put on the ticket. I’m removing my McCain-Palin 08 sign from my lawn. Sorry John McCain you lost my support.

By Janice Wilson

October 11, 2008 6:15 AM | Link to this

I hate to admit it but McCain and Palin are liars. There’s no doubt Palin was caught red handed! The McCain campaign prides itself on straight talk and while inquiring “Who is the real Barack Obama?”. Maybe they can answer the question, who is the real Sarah Palin? The GOP has two candidates in the General Election with questionable judgement and temperment. This should have been the second time Sarah Palin was found guilty of Abuse of Power. The first time was when she demanded her teenage daughter to marry her boyfriend before the media realized she was pregnant. Coming from a female Republican, Sarah Palin was a horrible choice to put on the ticket. I’m removing my McCain-Palin 08 sign from my lawn. Sorry John McCain you lost my support.

By Janice Wilson

October 11, 2008 6:16 AM | Link to this

I hate to admit it but McCain and Palin are liars. There’s no doubt Palin was caught red handed! The McCain campaign prides itself on straight talk and while inquiring “Who is the real Barack Obama?”. Maybe they can answer the question, who is the real Sarah Palin? The GOP has two candidates in the General Election with questionable judgement and temperment. This should have been the second time Sarah Palin was found guilty of Abuse of Power. The first time was when she demanded her teenage daughter to marry her boyfriend before the media realized she was pregnant. Coming from a female Republican, Sarah Palin was a horrible choice to put on the ticket. I’m removing my McCain-Palin 08 sign from my lawn. Sorry John McCain you lost my support.

By Churchill's mom

October 11, 2008 6:35 AM | Link to this

Jimbo, here’s our Palin for the day…WAR EAGLE

Report stings Palin over Troopergate flap By MATT APUZZO

Associated Press Writer

ANCHORAGE, Alaska — The politically charged investigation into Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is over, and its conclusions are stinging. But the fallout, if any, might not come until Election Day.

A legislative investigator found that Palin violated state ethics laws and abused her power by trying to have her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper.

The next move may be at the ballot box. The legislative committee that released the report Friday recommends no criminal investigation and has no authority to sanction the governor, the Republican vice presidential nominee.

“It is out of the Legislative Council’s hands. It goes to anyone’s hands who got a copy or clicks the link on the Web,” said Democratic state Sen. Kim Elton, the chairman of the committee that released the report. “I can’t tell you how the process ends.”

If voters believe the report’s finding and it tarnishes Palin’s reputation as a reformer and a champion for good government, that could hurt Republican presidential nominee John McCain in the final weeks of the race.

The McCain campaign quickly rejected that notion.

“I think the American people can tell the difference between the results of a politically motivated investigation and a legitimate finding of fact,” campaign spokesman Taylor Griffin said.

The inquiry looked into Palin’s dismissal of Public Safety Commissioner Walter Monegan, who said he lost his job because he resisted pressure to fire a state trooper involved in a bitter divorce and custody battle with the governor’s sister. Palin says Monegan was fired as part of a legitimate budget dispute.

Stephen Branchflower, a retired prosecutor hired to conduct the investigation, said Monegan’s firing was lawful. But the pressure Palin and her husband put on him, he said, was not.

Under Alaska law, it is up to the state’s Personnel Board, not the Legislature, to decide whether Palin violated the ethics laws. If so, it must refer the matter to the Senate president for disciplinary action. Violations also carry a possible fine of up to $5,000.

By the time that investigation is over, however, the election will be over. If Palin is the vice president-elect, the results will hardly matter. If she loses, she’ll have to address the board’s findings at home. The national media will be long gone.

Barack Obama’s presidential campaign did not comment on the report amid persistent accusations by Republicans that rival operatives were manipulating the investigation to help the Democratic presidential nominee.

Democratic Sen. Hollis French, who oversaw the investigation, contributed to that perception when he said the report could provide an “October surprise” for the McCain campaign.

Elton said partisanship played no role in the report.

“When we began investigating this, we had no idea that Sarah Palin would be a part of the national ticket,” said Elton, an Obama supporter.

Branchflower said Palin violated a statute of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act. Lawmakers don’t have the authority to sanction her for such a violation and they gave no indication they would take any action against her.

Palin has recently said that the Personnel Board inquiry is the only one that matters. And McCain’s campaign echoed those comments Friday.

“This is the opinion of this Legislative Council investigation,” Griffin said. “It’s just an opinion.”

The report notes a few instances in which Palin pressed the case against trooper Mike Wooten, but it was her husband, Todd, who led the charge. Todd Palin had extraordinary access to the governor’s office and her closest advisers and he used that access to try to get Wooten fired.

Gov. Palin knowingly “permitted Todd to use the Governor’s office and the resources of the Governor’s office, including access to state employees, to continue to contact subordinate state employees in an effort to find some way to get Trooper Wooten fired,” Branchflower’s report reads.

Wooten had been in hot water before Palin became governor over allegations that he illegally shot a moose, drank beer in a patrol car and used a Taser on his stepson. The Palins said they feared for their family’s safety after Wooten made threats against them.

Associated Press Writer Adam Goldman contributed to this report.

By Rascal

October 14, 2008 7:24 AM | Link to this

Two points that I can’t get out of my craw When a government like ours has spent more money that it has taken in for the past several decades, building up debts of over $10 Trillion and long term commitments of over $50 Trillion. How in the hell does anyone think these politicians are doing anything else but stealing money from future generations when they propose to buy current votes with these programs. Wake up Americans, every politician that says he is spending more money vs cutting spending is lying to you about where that money comes from. The one thing that does I have not heard talked about is the pressure on politicians that comes from the fear of being called a racist. This is one of the biggest causes of the current mortgage crisis. So many politicians that may have stood up against these programs have not due to this “hidden” pressure. If they come out hard and heavy against the programs to put low income families in homes that they could not afford they will be called racist by the likes of John Conyers, John Lewis et al. To get past the racial problems in this country, we first have to be consistent in our treatment of all policies regardless of the claims by either side about the racist terms being bandied about.

By Bill the Independent

October 15, 2008 7:19 AM | Link to this

I am an Independent in my 60’s. I have voted for candadates in both parties. I am voting not so much for Obama but against the Repbulican Party. When I look at the Republican party I see a party that took a surplus and turned it into the largest deficiate in our history while talking about conservative values. Those same conservative values that allow them to back a president that did all in his power to strip the constitution, invade a country because we didn’t like the head of government, lie to the American people at every turn from everything from the torture of prisoners, to the state of the economy.
The Republican party cannot run on fixing the economy. To elect a Republican would be like selecting the surgon who removed your good leg to operate on you again. I don’t think so.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 15, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

Dear Bill @ 7:19, using much the same calculus as you, I find myself voting, not against Obama, but against his party. FNMA and FHLMC are almost purely democrat scandals, the most expensive in history. Born from a failed leftist economic theory, and pursued aggressively to its inevitable conclusion by the leftists, I am persuaded they cannot be trusted with the larger economy. If you doubt, just ask what is their plan to save social security. (They have none.)

By Churchill's Mom

October 15, 2008 8:39 AM | Link to this

Can Palin Broaden Base for 2012? It’s not that I assume that Barack Obama is going to be the next president of the United States (in fact, I anticipate a furious charge from a devil-may-care John McCain in the next 21 days).

But when conservative columnist William Kristol is urging the Republican presidential nominee to divest himself of an operationally incompetent and strategically incoherent campaign apparatus, then perhaps we can at least take a peek, a look-see, at a future in which a Democrat runs the country. Which Republicans might be challenging President Obama in 2012?

In terms of 2008 aspirants we can say that McCain and Fred Thompson will be too old. Rudy Giuliani too strategically incoherent. That leaves the following (with apologies to Tancredo, Brownback, Hunter, Paul and Keyes):

Sarah Palin: If the governor of Alaska wants to run for the White House then she is going to have to spend every day of the next four years systematically rehabilitating her public image. In return for the honor of being selected by that other Maverick, Palin has been rewarded with the widespread perception that she is a dim-wit, dishonest, an abuser of power, and a religious zealot.

Similar charges were leveled at Dan Quayle in 1988, another politician who went from total obscurity to the Most Detested Person in Liberal America in a matter of seconds (I seem to recall a headline in The Village Voice: “Bush flips America the Bird!”). But at least he actually got to be vice-President.

What Palin does bring to the table and what may make her attractive to GOP kingmakers is her ability to “energize the base.” By “base” we mean White Conservative Evangelicals. And if reports from the field are accurate, then the base isn’t only energized by her, but short-circuiting. Her crowds are huge and their shout-outs are becoming increasingly inflammatory. (Incidentally, an Evangelical pastor yesterday correlated Obama’s followers with worshippers of non-Christian gods).

It will be interesting to see what type of campaign Palin would run when unencumbered by McCain’s handlers (who did not, I think, do her any favors in the last six weeks). If she strikes populist Christian themes and plays on her small-town appeal then that should be of concern to… . .

Mike Huckabee: I have gone to great pains to point out that the base did not—I repeat, did not—necessarily get overheated for the former governor of Arkansas. In his 2012 incarnation Huck must secure Evangelical support earlier and more often. Palin will be winking at them as well and the mind races at the thought of these two cudgeling one another for a share of the same demographic in Iowa (Chuck Norris, meet the First Dude. First Dude. Chuck).

But if there is one thing we are learning in this election season it is that White Evangelicals are less of an electoral force than they were four years ago. The leadership is in flux. Issues beyond abortion and gays interest them. A younger generation is rising.

A weakened—more precisely, a fractured—Evangelical base signals the possible re-emergence of that other GOP base composed of Free Marketeers, daredevil de-regulators, the pro-Big Business faction, and the anti-tax brigades, among others. It may also a signal an opportunity for ….

Mitt Romney: If McCain loses, it seems safe to say that it was the stupid economy that did him in. Had Romney been selected as his running mate in 2008 he could have addressed this issue with more authority than both Mavericks combined.

But let us not forget that Romney himself pandered to the conservative Christian base (which he fought Huckabee for in some sort of mutual annihilation pact). He proclaimed himself an “evangelical Mormon.” He flip-flopped on abortion. He thumped Bible. He lambasted secularists. In short, Mitt Romney ran as a Culture Warrior—a role he was not suited to play.

If Palin, Romney and Huckabee do run in 2012 they will have to learn one crucial lesson from 2008: culture warfare is not enough. Put differently, they will need to play to the bases. To win a presidential election it takes more than faith.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

October 15, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

Dear Mom @ 8:39, Jindal?