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Vote better food, softer mattresses
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Working people had better be registered to vote. Today’s the deadline. Otherwise, those who are in the wagon being pulled by their taxes may decide to vote themselves better food and softer mattresses.
Pulling out all stops in a presidential race that Barack Obama just can’t seem to put away, a group identified with the national Democratic Party is scouring the jails of Georgia in search of new voters. The Southern Christian Leadership Conference hopes to register a million of the jailhouse gang as voters.
In DeKalb County, 441 inmates were registered and another 376 were signed up for absentee ballots as of Friday, Sheriff Thomas Brown said. About two dozen were registered in Athens and 15 more were assisted with absentee ballot applications.
Efforts are frantic throughout the country to register every known and suspected Democrat. The latest Zogby poll explains why. Despite circumstances and events in the economy that constitute a gift to the Democratic nominee, Obama cannot put it away. His lead in the polls is 4 percentage points, 48-44. The economy is the top concern to two-thirds of the likely voters. As a measure of how quickly concerns change, the war in Iraq is now the top concern of just 4 percent of likely voters in the Zogby poll.
As we all knew they would, the Hillary Clinton voters remain loyal Democrats; 88 percent of Democrats support Obama. Among Republicans, 87 percent support McCain.
Based on Governor Palin’s observation that Obama has been palling around with bad company, Republicans are expected to return to the character issue. But they still have not made the case, as they should, that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac might have been reformed earlier had it not been for Democrats. It’s let up to others to make the case. (Some of the best political commercials of this cycle have been on YouTube.)
Zogby’s finding on the Sarah Palin-Joe Biden debate is that while most though he won, only 4 percent said they changed their minds on which ticket to support. One recent poll in Georgia has just 2 percent undecided. Quick question: When was the last time you met somebody you thought was actually undecided on this race? I don’t think they exist.




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Comments
By Redneck Convert
October 6, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
Well, like I said before, the people that say they ain’t decided done decided. They just don’t want to admit it. They decided they ain’t going to vote for one of Those People. But the libruls done brow-beat so many people they won’t admit it. It’s the same reason I use Those People instead of the word I use to use.
So on election day they will step into that booth and hear the voice of their Daddy saying, “Don’t never vote for no n*.” And they will push the button for McCain. And later they will go out to the car and get in and close their eyes and say, “I was true to you, Daddy.” It’s the way true GA people have been for many decades.
I don’t like this business of letting people in jail vote. You know good and well they ain’t going to vote for us law and order people. They are going to vote for people that will let them off. So I say we put them in jail fair and square and if they didn’t violate the law they wouldn’t be there so they need to do without voting.
I wish I was as hopeful as Wooten about this election. All I see on TV is polls that show this Obama with a 7 point lead and gaining all the time. And the polls show Obama already over 270 election votes. The only hope of us godly Republicans is the undecideds, which like I said ain’t undecided at all but won’t vote for one of Those People. If we can make sure they get to the polls we will win. Later we can talk about what a pity it is they voted on skin color, but we won’t really mean it. A win is a win and we’ll take the vote of the Devil hisself if he got a photo ID.
Have a good day everybody.
By Peter
October 6, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
Gosh Jim,
We know today McLost Quit on Michigan, and Sister Palin has Evaded Taxes………..
We also know she has spent MOST of her life as a Governor working from home……..
Maybe the American People won’t want a work from HOME VP ?
Maybe they Dumb and Dumber team, has just shot themselves in the foot over the weekend !
By hillbilly ragger
October 6, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
Yeah, Jim, those lazy working people, that ignorant majority of Americans, how dare they vote for their own interests! How dare they deny further tax breaks for the wealthiest?
They’re just so uppity, it’s beyond belief, isn’t it?
By Augusta Paper
October 6, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this
Bad week end at the Churchill household, our team lost to Vanderbilt, how can you have a SEC team that makes their players go to class. Mom is in her room and won’t come out. Here’s todays Palin, everyone enjoy the poetry.
ROGER COHEN Published: October 5, 2008 WASHINGTON
Repeat after me: pigs can’t fly. Repeat after me: if you don’t work you die. Repeat after me: fire will certainly burn.
Perhaps these truths seem self-evident. But let’s face it, the whole Wall Street debacle, with its cost of some $700 billion to generations of Americans, was based on the fathomless human ability to disregard facts and believe in cloud-cuckoo-land.
Risk no longer existed. The penniless could afford a $200,000 house. Real estate prices could only rise. Securities full of toxic loans would prove benign. Debt was desirable, leverage lovely, greed great. Two and two made five. The moon was a balloon and streets were lined with gold.
How could it happen? That outraged question springs now to everyone’s lips. But from Dutch tulips to Californian dotcoms, great heists have happened and will again. No flight from reality is as sweet as the illusion that money grows on trees.
A friend wrote suggesting I take a look at Rudyard Kipling’s poem, “The Gods of the Copybook Headings,” in the light of current events. Written in 1919, when Kipling was 53, in an England drained by the Great War, which had taken the life of his teenage son, the poem makes sobering reading.
A copybook was a school exercise book used to practice handwriting. At the tops of pages, proverbs and sayings (like “Stick to the Devil You Know”) appeared in exemplary script to be copied down the page by pupils. The truisms were called “copybook headings.”
The poem begins:
As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.
And what are the qualities of these “Gods of the Copybook Headings?” The fourth verse sets them out.
With the hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.
The seventh verse reads:
In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul:
But though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”
Truth, in short, confronts delusion and utopia.
Kipling is not much in fashion these days, other than for his children’s books. For a politically correct age, he speaks too bluntly of the world’s — and empire’s — cruel ironies. But his vivid evocation of war’s horror, man’s hypocrisy, illusion’s price and power’s passing make him important in this pivotal American moment.
As it happens — life’s ironies — I was reading Kipling after watching the vice-presidential debate, or more precisely Sarah Palin, the winking “Main-Streeter” from Wasilla. And the words of hers that rang in my ears were:
“One thing that Americans do at this time, also, though, is let’s commit ourselves just everyday American people, Joe Six Pack, hockey moms across the nation, I think we need to band together and say ‘Never Again.’ Never will we be exploited and taken advantage of again by those managing our money and loaning us these dollars.”
Huh?
I’m sorry, Governor Palin, words matter. Life has its solemn lessons. “Never Again” is a hallowed phrase. It’s applicable not to the loss of a mortgage, but to the Holocaust and genocide.
According verbal equivalency to a $60,000 loan and six million murdered Jews, or 800,000 slaughtered Rwandans, is grotesque. Perhaps Palin didn’t mean it, but that’s no less serious. The world’s gravity escapes her.
Not Kipling, who wrote in “Epitaphs of the War” (1914-1918):
If any question why we died,
Tell them, because our fathers lied.
I wonder, after the lying and the dead of the Bush Administration, in the midst of the wars, in the face of 760,000 lost jobs, is Palin’s offer of a “little bit of reality from Wasilla Main Street” enough?
“The Gods of the Copybook Headings” ends:
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man —
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began:
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
Palin, Mainstreeter that she is, loves to drop her g’s, so she’d no doubt call the poet Kiplin’. She might have asked, with that wink, to call him “Rud.”
That’s cutesy politics. But pigs still don’t have wings. The world’s still a dangerous place. It’s time for copybook realists in the White House.
By spankmonkey
October 6, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
Peter…. puhleeeeezzzzzzzz…
I hate to break it to you, but it’s a SLAM DUNK for Dumb and Dumber here in GA… Oblahma won’t even come close here… For some god-awful reason Jim W and the rest of his Klan look at the last 8 years and say “Oh Yeah… I want 8 more like that…”
All these polls we read about are taken at the mall, if the ever stood outside a couple mega-churches on sunday and did some polling the numbers would be radically different.
As for me, I gotta know. Jim, what is different about McCain this year as opposed to 2000??? he still has an illegitimate black child (GOP’s word not mine) and his wife was addicted to pain pills, and he was guilty of extra marital affairs… Your words not mine (you being the GOP)… So in 2000 military service didn’t matter a bit, and all of the above was being wispered in McCain’s bid to be the nominee. So what, exactly, has changed??? If all this was true then, it’s true now, isn’t it? Or as a member of the GOP are you allowed to “forget” these things, much like Reagan and Ollie North “forgot” details on the Contra affairs???
And in the heck is “cut-n-paste” Andy today? The day can’t begin without my reading a couple dozen articles from right-wing hack websites, linked from here by an unbalanced hack…
By Ga Values
October 6, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
Saxby’s $850,000,000,000.00 bail out of Wall Street is really working. Asian & European markets are in free fall. Our market dropped 157 on friday.
Does anyone understand why the Fed was going to sell Wachovia to Citi for $2 Billion of money they were lending it when Wells Fargo would pay $15 Billion of their own money. Shades of RTC. This won’t be the last time the taxpayer will be shafted in this mess. In a normal government program there is 10-15% waste, bet this one will hit 20-25% not counting the $150,000,000,000.00 of pork added by the Senate.
By bearcasey
October 6, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
The Republican theocrats vote themselves newer Mercedes and larger McMansions. “W” pushed a socialistic “bailout” that dwarfs anything FDR ever did. Sarah Palin is a political “pet rock” or “hula hoop.” Poor John McCain will pay the price. By the way, did you know that he spent 5+ years hanging out with the North Vietnamese communists? Guilt by association!
By Chris Salzmann
October 6, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
If Palin wants to discuss paling around with bad company, she need only to take a look at her husband, Todd Palin. A member of the separatist Alaska Independence Party (AIP) from 1995 through 2002. He left only when his wife began to run for State office in 1992, i.e. Lt. Governor. Or lets discuss McCain’s history and the Keating 5, with McCain being the 5th of the infamous five. If you recall, the Keating Five and the Savings & Loans scandal cost this country over $100 Billion in the 1980’s.
Politics 101 = Never discuss the bad company of your opponent because politics is synonymous with keeping bad company.
By hillbilly ragger
October 6, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
Yoo-hoo, Jim? Seriously? This business of inciting local white folks into believing that Obama’s “scouring the jails of Georgia” to commit what your lot call “voter fraud”?
Seriously, this might be the most irresponsible thing you’ve posted on this blog. Any nooses, any hanging-Obama-in-effigy, any families getting racial slurs hurled at them from your redneck fan base?
You own it. It’s all yours now.
By Eli Jones
October 6, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
American’s minds went into neutral when we elected Jimmy Carter so I guess it could happen again. Barack Obama lost my vote way back in the Jeremiah Wright episode. I will not vote for a man who is associated with terrorists or America haters past or present tense. Obama has been in cohoots with, closely associated with or endorsed by these horrible America and Israel haters, Billy Ayres,Bernadine Dorhn,Ahmad Yousuf (Hamas),Frank Marshall Davis,Obama’s murderous Kenyan Islamic cousin Raila Odingo, His militant Islamic Kenyan brother and follower of Odingo Abongo Obama,Black Panthers,Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez,Rashid Khalidi who brought Iranian Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to speak at Columbia University,Nadhmi Auchi,the self hating pandering Father Pfleger, radical preacher Rev Meeks and who can forget Barack’s charming wife who calls white people “The White Oppressor” on page 59 of her racist Princeton University senior thesis (google it). I am voting for a pro-America patriot and his running mate Sarah Palin. God bless the USA. Truthfully, Eli Jones
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 6, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. Dr. Walter Williams once described a severe limitation of democracy as “two foxes and one sheep voting on supper.” But first things first. We have to congratulate the democrats on the successful vote Friday – with few republican votes, and almost no conservative support, the democrats passed the largest domestic spending bill in the history of the US. The bill was favored by the Bush administration, and supported by both Captain Queeg and Chauncey Gardener, and the non-conservatives prevailed. No recriminations, you won, fair and square, congratulations.
As to the coming elections, we have a republican candidate focused on “earmarks” as symptomatic of runaway spending by our overlords, and a democrat candidate who says the economy needs a tax increase on the 5% most productive citizens. Between the myopic Captain Queeg and the economics-blind Chauncey Gardener, we are all reduced to the lesser of two evils. While I can get enthusiastic about Sarah – the only one of the four grounded in both truth and common sense – she will be only a bit player until she runs for president. Tough decision then – Sarah or Bobby? I see a day when I can vote for a president again, instead of against the lesser competent.
By tcoach
October 6, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
spankmonkey-If all this was true then, it’s true now, isn’t it?
So as Biden does you agree that Obama is dangerous and not ready to be president. Oh those are things Hillary also said. This was said only 6 months ago.
You wouldn’t want to vote for a dangerous person would you?
By Peter
October 6, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Hey Eli Jones……….”I will not vote for a man who is associated with terrorists or America haters past or present tense.”
What do you know about the “Song Bird of Hanoi” ?
McLost sang like a song Bird, and gave away all the American Flight routes. These were routes that were bombing missions, and supply missions.
Many Americans LOST their lives, and Aircraft because of this !
SO……. your guy has done exactly what you say you won’t vote for !
WRONG THINKING AGAIN !
By Dave
October 6, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
bearcasey - the logic and intellectual superiority of your argument is so astounding I can’t understand why you’re blogging and Jay Bookman is getting paid. Keep it up, you’re doing a great job promoting the cause…
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 6, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
Dear Chris @ 9:31, not that the truth would matter to you, but democrat attorney Robert Bennett, who prosecuted the Keating Five case for the Senate, has said 100s of times that he would have omitted both John Glenn and John McCain from the case, but the democrat majority overlords objected to any investigation that did not implicate at least one republican.
By Southern Democrat
October 6, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Southern Democrat is legitimately undecided. I was undecided (though always leaning towards Senator Obama) until the conventions when they solidified my vote. I did, however, vote for Senator McCain in the 2000 Georgia Republican Primary and certainly wish he had won that campaign.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 6, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
Dear Peter @ 9:45, you thus display the difference between a republican and a democrat – republicans reveal classified information only after torture, but [democrats do it for political gain[(http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/kouri121006.htm).
By spankmonkey
October 6, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
I will not be voting for Oblahma, Hillary, or Biden. And “unfit to be president”, is hair bit different from wispering “Obama has an illegitimate white child” is it not? W and rove wispered a lot more than that in 2000, and it worked. I just want to know why all those that soundly rejected McCain in 2000, are now fervently embracing him?
Do you want 8 more years of the same? Regardless of how “mavericky” they are, McCain/Palin represent 8 more years of the same.
By SayNo2McCain
October 6, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
Sarah and John are wasting their time talking about Ayers/Wright. It’s too bad that they will wait until Nov. 4th to find that out. If they have a problem with Ayers in 2008, I suggest they contact the FBI. Otherwise, SHUT UP ALREADY!!!
People want to hear about how they are going to improve the economy, war in Iraq, healthcare and education. We want to hear them talk about job losses and how to improve our gas situations. We want Sarah to talk about how her grocery bill has changed in the last few years or how high health insurance has increased over the years, but the covereage is still the same.
It’s being predicted that lot’s of banks will continue to fail throughout 2009. People will continue to loose their homes, jobs and healthcare will continue to become outrageous.
The only thing those Ayers/Wright SCRARE tactics will do is keep your BASE, in your pocket. FYI… you have them in your POCKET already, so please find something IMPORTANT, to talk about.
By hillbilly ragger
October 6, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
Poor Ragnar—he can’t even figure out how to to the linkee thing!
How’s that Ayn Rand blow-up doll workin’ for ya, Ragnar?
By spankmonkey
October 6, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
As well… In the Red State of Georgia 445 jailed voters mean absolutely squat. In fact, if every incarcerated person in GA voted for Oblahma, it still wouldn’t mean squat. The people of GA WANT 8 more.
By getalife
October 6, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
Economy?
It’s about Ayers and Keating don’t ya know.
You betcha gosh darn it. Wink.
The world is scrambling to try to stop it but there is no solution to greed except prison.
By Obama/Biden '08
October 6, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
John McCain is not who you think he is:
www.johnmccainrecord.com
www.keatingeconomics.com
Obama Accomplishments
Of the 15 bills Senator Obama sponsored or co-sponsored in 2005-7 that became law:
Two addressed foreign policy: Promote relief, security and democracy in the Congo (2125) Develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control (2370).
Three addressed public health: Improve mine safety (2803) Increased breast cancer funding (597) Reduce preterm delivery and complications, reduce infant mortality (707).
Two addressed openness and accountability in government: Strengthening the Freedom of Information Act (2488) Full disclosure of all entities receiving federal funds (2590) check out www.usaspending.gov: Rep. Sen. Tom Coburn and Sen. Obama sponsored this one together
Two addressed national security Extend Terrorist Risk Insurance (467) Amend the Patriot Act (2167) One addressed the needs of the Armed Forces Wave passport fees to visit graves, attend memorials/funerals of veterans abroad (1184).
Of the 570 bills Senator Obama introduced into the Senate during the 109th and 110th Congress (Senate Bill numbers are in parentheses), they can be summarized as follows:
25 addressed Energy Efficiency and Climate Change Suspend royalty relief for oil and gas (115) Reduce dependence on oil; use of alternative energy sources (133) Increase fuel economy standards for cars (767, 768) Auto industry incentives for fuel efficient vehicles (1151) Reduce green house gas emissions (1324) Establish at NSF a climate change education program (1389) Increase renewable content of gasoline (2202) Energy emergency relief for small businesses and farms (269) Strategic gasoline and fuel reserves (1794) Alternative diesel standards (3554) Coal to liquid fuel promotion (3623) Renewable diesel standards (1920) Reducing global warming pollution from vehicles (2555) Fuel security and consumer choice (1994, 2025) Alternative energy refueling system (2614) Climate change education (1389) Low income energy assistance (2405) Oil savings targets (339) Fuel economy reform (3694) Plug-in electric drive vehicles (1617) Nuclear release notice (2348) Passenger rail investment (294) Energy relief for low income families (2405) 21 addressed Health Care Drug re-importation (334) Health information technology (1262, 1418) Discount drug prices (2347) Health care associated infections (2278) Hospital quality report cards (692, 1824) Medical error disclosure and compensation (1784) Emergency medical care and response (1873) Stem cell research (5) Medical Malpractice insurance (1525) Health centers renewal (901, 3771) Children’s health insurance (401) Home health care (2061) Medicare independent living (2103) Microbicides for HIV/AIDS (823) Ovarian cancer biomarker research (2569) Gynological cancers (1172) Access to personalized medicine through use of human genome (976) Paralysis research and care (1183) 20 addressed Public Health: Violence against women (1197) Biodefense and pandemic preparedness and response (1821, 1880) Viral influenza control (969) End homelessness (1518) Reduce STDs/unintended pregnancy (1790) Smoking prevention and tobacco control (625) Minority health improvement and disparity elimination (4024) Nutrition and physical education in schools (2066) Health impact assessments (1067, 2506) Healthy communities (1068) Combat methamphetamines (2071) Paid sick leave (910) Prohibit mercury sales (833, 1818) Prohibit sale of lead products (1306, 2132) Lead exposure in children (1811, 2132) 14 address Consumer Protection/Labor Stop unfair labor practices (842) Fair minimum wage (2, 1062, 2725, 3829) Internet freedom (2917) Credit card safety (2411) Media ownership (2332) Protecting taxpayer privacy (2484) Working family child assistance (218) Habeus Corpus Restoration (185) Bankruptcy protection for employees and retirees (2092) FAA fair labor management dispute resolution (2201) Working families flexibility (2419). 13 addressed the Needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces: Improve Benefits (117) Suicide prevention (479) Needs of homeless veterans (1180) Homes for veterans (1084) GI Bill enhancement (43) Military job protection Dignity in care for wounded vets (713) Housing assistance for low income veterans (1084) Military children in public schools (2151) Military eye injury research and care (1999) Research physical/mental health needs from Iraq War (1271) Proper administration of discharge for personality disorder (1817, 1885) Security of personal data of veterans (3592)
12 addressed Congressional Ethics and Accountability Lobbying and ethics reform (230) Stop fraud (2280) Legislative transparency and accountability (525) Open government (2180, 2488) Restoring fiscal discipline (10) Transparency and integrity in earmarks (2261) Accountability of conference committee deliberations and reports (2179) Federal funding accountability and transparency (2590) Accountability and oversight for private security functions under Federal contract (674) Accountability for contractors and personnel under federal contracts (2147) Resctrictions awarding government contracts (2519)
10 addressed Foreign Policy: Iraq war de-escalation (313) US policy for Iraq (433), Divestiture from Iran (1430) Sudan divestment authorization (831) Millennium Development Goals (2433) Multilateral debt relief (1320) Development bank reform (1129) Nuclear nonproliferation (3131,977,2224).
9 address Voting/Elections Prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections (453) Voter access to polls and services in Federal elections (737) Voter intimidation and deceptive practices (1975) Senate campaign disclosure parity (185) Require reporting for bundled campaign contributions (2030) Election jamming prevention (4102) Campaign disclosure parity (223) Presidential funding (2412) Integrity of electronic voting systems (1487)
11 addressed Education Increase access of low income African Americans to higher education (1513) Establish teaching residency programs (1574) Increase early intervention services (2111) Middle school curriculum improvements (2227) Public database of scholarships, fellowships and financial aid (2428) Summer learning programs (116) TANF financial education promotion (924) Higher education (1642) Build capacity at community colleges (379) Campus law enforcement in emergencies (1228) Support for teachers (2060). 6 addressed Hurrican Katrina Hurricane Katrina recovery (2319) Emergency relief (1637) Bankruptcy relief and community protection (1647) Working family tax relief (2257) Fair wages for recovery workers (1749) Gulf coast infrastructure redevelopment (1836)
5 addressed the Environment Drinking water security (218, 1426) Water resources development (728) Waste water treatment (1995) Combat illegal logging (1930) Spent nuclear fuel tracking and Acountability (1194) Asian Carp Prevention and Control Act (Introduced in Senate)[S.726.IS ]
4 addressed Discrimination Claims for civil class action based on discrimination (1989) Domestic partnership benefits (2521) Unresolved civil rights crimes (535) Equality or two parent families (2286)
4 addressed Homeland Security Judicial review of FISA orders (2369) National emergency family locator (1630) Amend US Patriot Act (2167) Chemical security and safety (2486)
By Peter
October 6, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Hey Goofball………By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 6, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
Dear Peter @ 9:45, you thus display the difference between a republican and a democrat – republicans reveal classified information only after torture, but [democrats do it for political gain[(http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/kouri121006.htm).
He was not tortured first……he sang like a little girl…..he had already been hurt when he ejected from the JET !
Many AMERICAN’s Died because he was YELLOW !
Then he voted to close the records……….so he would not be shown the coward he IS!
By the Way I am ……. INDEPENDENT…….. Self employed for over 23 years……… The government gives me Zero…….
What about YOU ?
By spankmonkey
October 6, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
Ragnar- Does the name Valerie Plame ring a bell??? It don’t get much more classified than that. Should I get you some links to look at?
By Chris Salzmann
October 6, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
Hey Eli,
Where did you get your talking points from??? Sean Hannity? Rush Limbaugh??? LOL
Most of your points are ridiculous but the last one, Michelle Obama’s Princeton thesis deserves special mention. It’s a common right-wing tactic to take something entirely out of context, similar to that email about Barack Obama writing in his book the “he will stand with the Muslims”. You must be familiar with that and I’m surprised you didn’t bring up that discredited thrash.
In her thesis, based on replies she had received to surveys sent out to 18 Black students on campus, Michelle was quoting theories of how in the 70’s many Blacks were pressured or influenced to join various Black Power Movements because ” of the belief that Blacks must join in solidarity to combat the white oppressor.”
Saying that Michelle is calling white people “the white oppressor” is pretty far fetched!!!! You notice the words “because of the belief”. LOL…………dude, I can quote you the Bible out of context and make anyone believe that the Bible promotes sex with minors, killing of helpless people and slavery.
Sarah Palin the American Patriot??? Ask her husband why he belonged to a separatist movement to separate Alaska from the rest of the United States. If you want to pick on spouses, that’s the one you should pick on.
If you think Sarah Palin is a patriot, I got a bridge in Arizona to sell you.
By GOPs got to go
October 6, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
Jim,
I volunteered for a political candidate the first time in my life this weekend. Spent a good many hours on Sat calling swing state voters to make sure they are registered. I am glad to say I am one of the millions working on the grass roots level to rid this country of the hypocritical and dangerous GOP. Obama/Biden 08
By tcoach
October 6, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
Spankmonkey Obama has picked the one who said those things about him to be his VP why no questions about that. Obama own VP said he is dangerous and not ready to lead, His own VP said these things about him.
If the Vp ain’t confident why should any of us be.
By Peter
October 6, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
Hey By Ragnar Danneskjöld ………….
Next question………
Where was the DOW when Bush took office ?
Voodoo Economics at it’s BEST !
By hillbilly ragger
October 6, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
What’s that you say, Peter? the government gives you Zero?
Funny, I’m that way too! I’ve never worked a gubmint job in my life, I’ve been in the private sector and paid my own way all this time—yet Jim and his idiot crew seem to think I’m “in the wagon being pulled.”
By CommunistAJC
October 6, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
A note to the left wing nut jobs: Be careful who you name call because the democrat party is in BIG trouble.
Lawmaker Accused of Fannie Mae Conflict of Interest.
By Bill Sammon
WASHINGTON — Unqualified home buyers were not the only ones who benefitted from Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank’s efforts to deregulate Fannie Mae throughout the 1990s.
So did Frank’s partner, a Fannie Mae executive at the forefront of the agency’s push to relax lending restrictions.
Now that Fannie Mae is at the epicenter of a financial meltdown that threatens the U.S. economy, some are raising new questions about Frank’s relationship with Herb Moses, who was Fannie’s assistant director for product initiatives. Moses worked at the government-sponsored enterprise from 1991 to 1998, while Frank was on the House Banking Committee, which had jurisdiction over Fannie.
Both Frank and Moses assured the Wall Street Journal in 1992 that they took pains to avoid any conflicts of interest. Critics, however, remain skeptical.
“It’s absolutely a conflict,” said Dan Gainor, vice president of the Business & Media Institute. “He was voting on Fannie Mae at a time when he was involved with a Fannie Mae executive. How is that not germane?
“If this had been his ex-wife and he was Republican, I would bet every penny I have - or at least what’s not in the stock market - that this would be considered germane,” added Gainor, a T. Boone Pickens Fellow. “But everybody wants to avoid it because he’s gay. It’s the quintessential double standard.”
A top GOP House aide agreed.
“C’mon, he writes housing and banking laws and his boyfriend is a top exec at a firm that stands to gain from those laws?” the aide told FOX News. “No media ever takes note? Imagine what would happen if Frank’s political affiliation was R instead of D? Imagine what the media would say if [GOP former] Chairman [Mike] Oxley’s wife or [GOP presidential nominee John] McCain’s wife was a top exec at Fannie for a decade while they wrote the nation’s housing and banking laws.”
Frank’s office did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Frank met Moses in 1987, the same year he became the first openly gay member of Congress.
“I am the only member of the congressional gay spouse caucus,” Moses wrote in the Washington Post in 1991. “On Capitol Hill, Barney always introduces me as his lover.”
The two lived together in a Washington home until they broke up in 1998, a few months after Moses ended his seven-year tenure at Fannie Mae, where he was the assistant director of product initiatives. According to National Mortgage News, Moses “helped develop many of Fannie Mae’s affordable housing and home improvement lending programs.”
Critics say such programs led to the mortgage meltdown that prompted last month’s government takeover of Fannie Mae and its financial cousin, Freddie Mac. The giant firms are blamed for spreading bad mortgages throughout the private financial sector.
Although Frank now blames Republicans for the failure of Fannie and Freddie, he spent years blocking GOP lawmakers from imposing tougher regulations on the mortgage giants. In 1991, the year Moses was hired by Fannie, the Boston Globe reported that Frank pushed the agency to loosen regulations on mortgages for two- and three-family homes, even though they were defaulting at twice and five times the rate of single homes, respectively.
Three years later, President Clinton’s Department of Housing and Urban Development tried to impose a new regulation on Fannie, but was thwarted by Frank. Clinton now blames such Democrats for planting the seeds of today’s economic crisis.
“I think the responsibility that the Democrats have may rest more in resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was president, to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,” Clinton said recently.
By hillbilly ragger
October 6, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
“dude, I can quote you the Bible out of context and make anyone believe that the Bible promotes sex with minors, killing of helpless people and slavery.”
Actually, you don’t have to bother quoting it out of context. Parts of the bible really do promote all those things; that’s why bible literalists should be watched and marginalized. They’re crazy.
By Drew
October 6, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
All I really know is that Obama will raise my taxes. Either by his own efforts to soak the rich (raising prices on everything and capping my raises) or by letting the Bush tax cuts expire, he will raise my taxes.
And around my kitchen table, that’s all I need to know.
By bearcasey
October 6, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Thanks Dave! I’m retired with my own money and don’t need a job or “bailout.” Hang in there, “W” will probably need a personal assistant soon!
By Peter
October 6, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Well folks 60 minutes told the story last night ….I hope all saw what is really going on……..
We shall see the deregulated trade of paper as the real downfall to the entire economy !
Where Are the WRONGS today……… Crying over their Portfolio’s ?
Are you drinking yet By Ragnar Danneskjöld ?
By GOPs got to go
October 6, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Oh, and Jim,
NONE of the calls I placed were to a jail or prison……..
I did find one home bound little old lady anxious to register!
She may have been on probation though, you just never know about those little old ladies.
By Chris Salzmann
October 6, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Hey tcoach,
Biden said that during the Democratic Primary. He had also said that he would never accept a VP slot. LOL….I guess he changed his mind.
Also, if you look at all the things the Republican Presidential candidates said to one another during the primaries, it would be an earful.
In fact, if you look at what McCain said about Gulliani during the Primaries (no experience, city major, no international experience, etc), you could use those very arguments against Sarah Palin.
By Road Scholar
October 6, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Wow! Registering people in jail! Under state law and the Constitution (Jim remember that?) it is legal. Only convicted felons cannot be registered/vote.
Let’s look forward, as Ms Palin stated and actually hear not what they stand for, but their plans and specific actions to move this country forward. And stop selectively lying about the other guys plan.
Oh Sarah, you want to look forward? So why do you dig in the past on things that already have been vetted? Isn’t this a little two faced? Wink!
By leigh
October 6, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Let’s see, guilt by association, Keating 5, G. Gordon Liddy, blessings from a witch hunter, the Alaska Independence Pary, troopergate, two idiots masking as Mavericks…
Uh, no thanks. I don’t want 4 more years of the same added to the last 8 years of Bush/Cheney.
By hillbilly ragger
October 6, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
“All I really know is that Obama will raise my taxes. Either by his own efforts to soak the rich (raising prices on everything and capping my raises) or by letting the Bush tax cuts expire, he will raise my taxes.”
Drew knows this because Jim done told him so! Drew is so S-M-R-T it hurts!
By Great New Deal for Society
October 6, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
Obama’s $800 billion in new spending will be financed by taxing “the rich,” and “big business,” – who will in turn collect the tax from consumers via the price tag levy. Thanks a lot, Barry.
By Ga Values
October 6, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
Sorry to say but most of us were correct about the $850 Billion Bailout. Too bad our socialist Senators did not follow our Republican Congressmen.
TOP STORY — Top of WSJ Front page: “Europe Races to Shore Up Banks as Crisis Spreads.”
Reuters, “Governments act to stem crisis, markets shaken”: “More European governments followed Germany’s lead on Monday offering guarantees to savers in a frantic effort to calm fears among investors over the worst financial crisis in 80 years. However, the moves failed to comfort financial markets as investors from Tokyo to London slashed risk from portfolios and positioned for a further tightening of credit and bank lending and the rising risk of a serious global economic recession. …
“Russia halted share trading for an hour after its benchmark stock index sank more than 14 percent to a three-year low, while Gulf equities crumbled as fears mounted that the fallout from Europe and the U.S. would strike the region. Governments across the globe battled to restore confidence.”
By Peter
October 6, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Sarah Palin…….TAX EVADER…….
I guess she won’t have to worry if there are any TAX INCREASES…….
SHE will SIMPLY………Evade the Taxes she has to PAY !
Gosh who are the “Bright Folks” giving her advice ?
By Ga Values
October 6, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Looks like I was wrong about the Wachovia deal, has anyone read the final bill?? Looks like they changed some tax code while they were adding earmarks. $2 Trillion of money shot to hell before this is over.. This is a cut & paste fron the NYT.
Wachovia needs to find a buyer because the company has been drained by massive losses on bad mortgage loans. Citigroup and Wells Fargo both expressed interest last weekend, but Wells Fargo walked away, forcing Wachovia to accept a minimal offer from Citigroup early Monday morning. However, the companies did not sign a merger agreement, instead they signed a letter promising to negotiate exclusively with each other.
Wells Fargo renewed its pursuit of Wachovia after a change in federal tax law that allows the company to use Wachovia’s losses to shelter its own profits from taxation. And on Friday, Wells Fargo and Wachovia announced a merger agreement. The deal, if completed, would create a bank with branches from coast to coast rivaled only by J.P. Morgan Chase and Bank of America.
Citigroup’s Saturday lawsuit alleged that Wachovia had broken the exclusivity agreement, and that Wells Fargo had knowingly interfered with a legal agreement. The company’s filing made clear that Citigroup is reluctant to surrender a rare chance to gain a significant presence in retail banking. The large New York bank has traditionally focused on investment banking and overseas markets, but financial companies increasingly covet deposits as a cheap source of funding.
“The assets that Citigroup was to acquire from Wachovia cannot be acquired at any price elsewhere in the market,” the filing said. “Without injunctive relief, Citigroup will forever lose this unique opportunity to acquire those assets.”
By DD
October 6, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
Speaking of jail. Lying to Congress to go to war is a felony.
By Frost
October 6, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
Obam aint John Kerry, and he starts hitting back with the Keating thing this mid-day so we can see how Mccain is part of the Keating 5.Good luck with personal attacks.You hit at him,he hits u back,hard. WATCH…http://my.barackobama.com/page/m2/55c13552/6b910cbb/6cd3f3a1/1188b949/2810703602/VEsE/
GOOD LUCK MCCAIN,THE ERATIC ONE………….
By getalife
October 6, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
Cowards.
Dow drops 500 points but John does not want to talk about it.
Sarah scared of the press.
Keating 5
Americans don’t like cowards Jim.
By CommunistAJC
October 6, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
Peter, Or should I say, retard, she just released her taxes. And, she out gave Biden in charitable causes. She gave in one year more than Biden gave in 8 years combined. Go sell stupid somewhere else. I hear Obama Hussein needs a good community organizer to handle some race riots that the DNC has planned once Obama Hussien loses.
By Peter
October 6, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
Hey……….By Ragnar Danneskjöld ………..
Wouldn’t today be a wonderful day, for Americans to get all their Social Security money…………. so All can PLAY the Stock market………?
Great REPUBLICAN IDEA !
By Hellbent
October 6, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
Did you know that Sarah Palin drowns baby kittins? It’s true! I heard it somewhere!
By Brad
October 6, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
An Obama presidency spells bad news for this country. He is too far left and he is pals with terrorist Bill Ayers. Who knows what’s in store for this country with a president that has friends like Bill Ayers who was at war with this country.
By deegee
October 6, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
“Based on Governor Palin’s observation that Obama has been palling around with bad company, Republicans are expected to return to the character issue.”
Governor Palin’s observation is that Putin rears up his head and flies over Alaska. Sure, I’m putting all my eggs in that basket.
By Peter
October 6, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Hey ……..By Hellbent …….
I didn’t know that…..But we do Know she shoots animals from a Helicopter…….!
By Truth Squad
October 6, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
Brad, you’re a liar. Knowing someone and being on the same board with them or working with them, or even being related to them, doesn’t make you “pals.” BTW, Palin’s husband is a member of the Alaska Independence Party that hates America and advocates secession from the Union. She spoke at their convention and said, “keep up the good work.” Being married might make you “pals.” Why does Palin hate America?
By hillbilly ragger
October 6, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
“she just released her taxes. And, she out gave Biden in charitable causes. She gave in one year more than Biden gave in 8 years combined.”
How much of that was to her nutball church? You know, the one where a guest pastor from Kenya laid his hands on her to purge her of witches?
You sure you want to go there?
By Mike
October 6, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
This bailout is almost Biblical—see Matthew 18—. A wealthy man could not pay his huge debt to the king. The man and his family could have lost everything. He begged the king for patience. The king forgave his entire debt.
The same man met a fellow who owed him a trifle and demanded payment. The fellow begged for patience to no avail. He was arrested and put in prison until the debt was paid.
Our elected representatives have used our money to bailout some very wealthy people and institutions to whom many of us owe money. Does anyone think that they will not charge us to the max in fees and by raising interest if we are late with even one payment—to anyone. Will the IRS be understanding and reduce the fees and interest?
Will mortgages be refinanced? “Trickle down” is against human nature and has been proven not to work. If it did there would have been no need for labor unions, trust busters, etc. What is the objection to “building up” by giving the middle income person a tangible tax break? Would making interest and medical expenses tax deductible help those in immediate need without having to borrow more and further obligate our heirs? Don’t penalize the wealthy for being wealthy but do away with the government “gifts” and have them pay a reasonable and fair tax.
To stay in business, the capitalist system would have to respond to the needs and desires middle income wage earners. Good jobs could not be sent off shore because they would be needed here to support business and government “regulation” might be minimized.
Unless someone thinks the New Testament is too “forgivey”, the king changed his mind when he found out what the man he had forgiven had done and the man wound up in prison.
By Hellbent
October 6, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
She’s also been tied to Michael Vick’s dog-fighting ring!
By Thought for Today
October 6, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
What do Obama and Osama have in common - both have friends that bombed the Pentagon.
By Dusty
October 6, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
Stop it, dingbats. This is America, not your Friday night wrestling match. Never have I read so many super stupid prejudiced psychotic choke hold comments.
Don’t you have morals or character enough to stop lying and dissembling and twisting and form an honest opinion??
So you don’t like Sarah Palin? OK. She is the governor of an American state and does not need to be called every insult ever hurled at a bar maid.
So you don’t like Obama? Stick with the politics and forget the inspired prejudice often aimed here.
So you don’t like Bush? He IS president of the United States with many good points. HE IS NOT RUNNING FOR REELECTION!!!
So you don’t like Biden? He IS a US senator and has suffered some of the worst blows life can offer. Nevermind acting like he is a criminal.
So you don’t like McCain? Lies do not change his war record or his staunch stand for what he believes to be right for this country. You cannot change his history as a strong, ethical man.
So you are worried about the financial situation. Most people are. There are enough people to blame from every angle. Could you have done any better? I doubt it.
So I say it again. Quit acting like a bunch of sorehead losers. It is disgusting. You are Americans and should be thankful for that fortunate basic liberty. Cool it!! APPRECIATE! And have a little faith. You won the lottery when you were born here or got your legal papers and DON’T YOU FORGET IT!
By Chris Salzmann
October 6, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
Hey Ragnar Danneskjöld October 6, 2008 9:48 AM,
Considering that Robert Bennett now works for John McCain and is saying this now is a little bit of a conflict of interest, don’t you think???
If he weren’t receiving any compensation from John McCain and then made that claim, THAT would be a different story.
By Hellbent
October 6, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
Thought for Today; Well I guess if we follow that line of thinking we can assume the following…
Sarah Palin and Sarah Jane Moore have the same first name. Therefore, we can assume that since they have the same first name, Sarah Palin is going to attempt to kill the President.
Oh, wait…she’s already trying to do that with her innuendo that Barack Obama is in bed with terrorists!!
By Abomi Nation
October 6, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
LMAO Jim!
Couldn’t you have found a more recent poll? That Zogby poll is 11 days old. A lot has happened in the past 11 days.
How about the new Rasmussen poll released this morning that shows Obama with his largest lead yet, 8 points, 52% to McCain’s 44%? Obama’s biggest lead in that poll. Or Gallup Poll, that shows Obama up by 7.
Your not sensing Democrat fear. You’re expressing Republican panic.
Tomorrow how about a column on the Supreme court the Dems will stack with liberal activist judges when the Obama landslide takes office. I’d pay for that one. It will be entertainment gold watching the Republican nuts cry and pout over that subject.
By Peter
October 6, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Hey Dusty…Tell us about the PORK that Sarah Palin, spends on her family?
Why does she NOT reside in the Alaska Governor’s Mansion ?
Why is she a WORK at Home Governor ?
By ron
October 6, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this
Good morning,It’s called a grass roots movement,Jim,This all out effort to register as many voters as possible for the Democratic party.It’s the direct opposite of the action of McCain in Michigan.That was called a throwing in of the towel movement. Actions like McCain’s rarely win elections.It’s an attempt,Jim, to wrest Georgia away from the Republicans.It may not work,but at least they will have tried.Always better than quitting in my book.
Now,should Obama win in November,I am going to put the blame squarely upon the shoulders of the Republicans,because that’s where it belongs.I’m not gong to blame voter registration drives or anything like that.I am going to blame Bush,and I am going to blame McCain,but most of all I’m going to blame the Republican Party for being so ill prepared.
Ga. Values——-Payola and graft are two words that come to mind when I think about Citibank,Wells Fargo,and the Treasury.Do those words still describe the same actions when the stakes are in the billions,or are they replaced by bigger,better words?
By Peter
October 6, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this
Hey Dusty……THIS IS FUNNY………
You cannot change his history as a strong, ethical man.
How many times has McLost cheated on his WIVES ?
Duty that would be Plural………
I guess cheating on your wife in the REPUBLICAN World is Ethical !
By getalife
October 6, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
The hearings on the bailout are interesting.
Paulson had a major conflict of interest in allowing Lehman Brothers to collapse to benefit his company.
The first head to roll needs to be Paulson
By GayGrayGeek
October 6, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Chris @ 11:14 - Don’t bother confusing The Esquire with DEMONSTRABLE FACTS. “The Esquire” and “Facts” go together the same way “Iraq” and “WMD” did. Or “Brownie” and “Heckuva job”. Or “Bush” and “Mission Accomplished”. Or “Republican Financiers” and “Wall Street Bailout”. Oh, wait, that last one is actually occurring…
By Peter
October 6, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
Remember folks…….when DUSTY’s Husband, and Son’s cheat on their wives and Girlfriends………. Perhaps with their side Girlfriends……….
This is Ethical Behavior in Her eye’s !
GO….. Dusty’s Idea of…… “Republican Family Values” !
By GayGrayGeek
October 6, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Peter @ 11:33 - I guess cheating on your wife in the REPUBLICAN World is Ethical !
That’s because in the world in which most Republicans live, “wives” aren’t “people”, they’re “property”. Can you cheat on your car or on your house? No, so how could anything be considered cheating on one’s wife?
By Commander Guy
October 6, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
What Jim meant to say was that all those shiftless welfare bums will vote for tighter pu55y and comfortable shoes.
Jim is the Earl Butz of 2008.
At long last, sir, have you no sense of decency?
By Road Scholar
October 6, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
Dusty: Rarely I agree with you, but your post at 11:13 is right on. Unfortunately this is where America has sunken to. 30 second sound bites, insults, lack of listening and reason, no reading of books representing all sides, rumor and innuendo….
Where are we going? Down the tubes unless people start to focus on the future.
By Dusty
October 6, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
Peter,
when you start answering some of the questions on THE OBAMA LIST OF GRIEVANCES maybe I will consider answering some “things” on THE MCCAIN LIST OF GRIEVANCES which is supplied to you daily.
But, don’t hold your breath. I’m not playing this old tennis-type match of trading accusations. You seem to think it is worthwhile. I think it is trash picking.
By Laughing at Wooten
October 6, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
Jimbo-
538 has Obama’s chances of winning the election nearing 90%.
Rasmussen’s lead for Obama is bigger than either Kerry’s or Bush’s at any point in 2004.
Nice cherry-pick (and even with it, McCain still loses). You’re hilarious.
By hillbilly ragger
October 6, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
Credit where it’s due—Dusty @ 11.13 makes a decent point.
I’d much rather that folks go after the tops of the tickets, rather than dwelling so much on Biden/Palin.
To that end, though… well, there’s this business about McCain’s “pallin’ around” with Phil Gramm some might find less than comforting.
“The story of Obama’s interaction with Ayers is drenched in irony, since it is basically a tale of Obama being co-opted into Chicago’s civic establishment. In 1995, Obama, then a young lawyer with political ambitions but as yet no office, was recruited to chair the board of a school reform organization funded and established by the Annenberg Foundation — a group that distributes the wealth of the estate of Walter Annenberg, Richard Nixon’s ambassador to Britain. It was only then that Obama met Ayers, who already was a board member and a figure in Chicago’s education-policy elite. (Mayor Richard Daley, that known radical, told the Times that he had consulted Ayers on education issues for years.)
“Go join your city’s establishment, and see what it gets you.
“But if the McCain people want to rummage through presidential candidates’ associations, real or imagined, to turn up figures who threaten to pull down this proud republic, they should begin in-house. Chief among those to whom responsibility attaches for the financial crisis that is plunging the nation into recession is former Texas senator Phil Gramm, McCain’s own economic guru.
“Gramm was always Wall Street’s man in the Senate. As chairman of the Senate Banking Committee during the Clinton administration, he consistently underfunded the Securities and Exchange Commission and kept it from stopping accounting firms from auditing corporations with which they had conflicts of interest. Gramm’s piece de resistance came on Dec. 15, 2000, when he slipped into an omnibus spending bill a provision called the Commodity Futures Modernization Act (CFMA), which prohibited any governmental regulation of credit default swaps, those insurance policies covering losses on securities in the event they went belly up. As the housing bubble ballooned, the face value of those swaps rose to a tidy $62 trillion. And as the housing bubble burst, those swaps became a massive pile of worthless paper, because no government agency had required the banks to set aside money to back them up.”
You McCain fans really want to play this guilt-by-association game? Have at it, chaps!
By Abomi Nation
October 6, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
Good news for Jim and his fellow Republicans!
Gallup has Reagan up by 9 over Jimmy Carter!
Wow, this will make the Democrats even more frantic!
By Condorcet
October 6, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Don’t be surprised when Chambliss’ slimey butt leaves a mark on the door that hit him on the way out. Martin has a good chance to win. Heck, I wouldn’t write out Obama based on the increased registration of African Americans in the state.
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/in-georgia-small-improvements-in-black.html
By Frost
October 6, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this
It is worth noting that Obama’s lead is now bigger than any lead enjoyed at any point by either candidate in Election 2004.-Monday,Oct 06,2008 Have a nice day,Wooten..ur wish is the people’s command!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publiccontent/politics/election20082/2008presidentialelection/dailypresidentialtracking_poll
By spankmonkey
October 6, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this
The tone of today’s politics was set in the Republican takeover of 94, remember the year of the angry white male? Remember the “contract with america”? Remember how the contract was thrown out just as soon as the takeover was complete? Remember Newt, the paragon of virtue who told his wife he was leaving her, while she was in a hospital bed battling cancer, it was ok though because he had already hooked up with his aide? Bob Barr, who opposed abortion so vehemently that he couldn’t bear to go in the clinic when he drove his first wife there?
By Dusty
October 6, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
Dear Road Scholar,11:47
We won’t go down the tubes. We’ve been through this before. We’ll be stronger and more ethical than these present days. We might even learn to live more economically.
Americans are blessed. Perhaps a bit of concentration on that gift will help with the painful rehab.
Do something a little “crazy”. Go wave our flag just for kicks. Drink a coke. Pick an apple off the tree. The sun is shining and it is going to be A GOOD DAY.
By tcoach
October 6, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
Its not so much guilt by association as it is everybody Obama associates with is guilty of something. Who in Obama’s political past is not guilty or at best suspect?
Every time I look into someone OBAMA describes as important to his political beliefs or shaped his spiritual life, those people turn out to be dirt balls. The best people of his mind shapers and mentors seem to be criminals while the worst ARE terrorist.
I think that is why OBAMA refuses to open his academic records and why there is no record of his name on anything published by Harvard Law Review. I fear tehre is a very radiacal past to this man and are you sure that this man is not a radical extreamist. What has he done to show love for his country and fellow man?
By SeriousSam
October 6, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
Voter deadline is not really something that looms, but complete and utter disaster does loom. Whether Obama or McCain is elected will make no difference whatsoever. These two parties are 100% responsible for our 10 trillion dollar deficit, our crashing stock market, our collapsing banks and financial institutions, our crumbling housing market, the dilema of 10 million children without health insurance, the incompetence of Government organizations (FEMA), an unnecessary and unwanted war in Iraq, steadily rising unemployment, the ruination of US credibility and respect around the globe, and an outrageously failed foreign policy. Other than thes few minor problems, there is absolutely no reason why any candidate from either of these two parties should not enjoy the privaledge and opportunity to continue the extraordinary job of dooming this nation. Voter registration doesn’t really loom, disaster does! It’s too bad other candidates who haven’t been a part of this colossal failure aren’t seriously considered by the voters. Ralph Nader would make an outstanding president. He is truly a great American.
By Peter
October 6, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
Dusty…what the heck…….”LIST OF GRIEVANCES”………..
We were talking Ethics…………McLost cheated on BOTH of his wives !
You are changing the Topic !
By sane jane
October 6, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
Dusty says McCain is a “strong, ethical man.”
Except for the part where he cheats on his crippled wife, divorces her & then one month later marries Cindy The Beer Heiress.
Other than cheating on & ditching his newly crippled wife, he’s TOTALLY a stand up guy!
By SayNo2McCain
October 6, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
I thought this was an excellent summary that fits McCain to the “T”:
So let’s review John McCain’s maverick brand of experienced leadership during the current financial crisis. First he reflexively pulls out his old stump speech line and reassures everyone that the fundamentals of the economy are strong. Whoops. He says the crisis does not warrant bailing out insurance giant American International Group, only to reverse course the very next day calling the rescue of AIG “regrettable, but unavoidable.” Then he decides he needs to look decisive and blames it all on the SEC chairman, as though we can hang the entire global financial mess around the neck of a single goat and drive it into the wilderness. Maybe he thought it would divert attention from his own role in creating the lax regulatory environment that allowed this mess to develop.
With his scapegoating gambit failing to attract much of a following, John decides he’s really going to take charge and refuses to campaign or debate until a bailout agreement is reached. Or until he turns blue. He makes a dramatic return to Washington to force a meeting with the president and the principal negotiators so he could work some that old bipartisan maverick magic. The meeting degenerates into a shouting match that derails the process. McCain fails to even take a stand on the wildly divergent Republican views expressed during a meeting that he called in order to look like he’s taking charge. With his big move going nowhere, John reverses course and decides he will debate and resume campaigning without an agreement after all.
After losing the debate John heads right back to Washington for the weekend, determined this time to jump into the driver’s seat. He issues a high-minded call to put aside partisanship while pointing his finger at Barack Obama, whom he now claims was square in the middle of the Washington culture of lobbying and influence peddling. Never mind that for months John’s been desperately trying to paint Obama as the inexperienced guy who started running for president within weeks of arriving in Washington.
John makes a big show over the weekend of working the phones and scrambling around to the front of the Republican pack so it looks like he’s in the lead. Monday morning he takes credit for bringing his troops to save the day. Problem is, John hasn’t even noticed that 2/3 of his troops wandered off down a side street along the way. The bill goes down to defeat after John has already declared victory. A bad habit of his.
In stark contrast to the flailing floundering maverick, Barack Obama has again demonstrated that he possesses the intelligence, temperament, and resolve to steer through troubled waters with a steady hand. He understands that a leader must recognize when intervention will help and when it will hurt, a lesson John McCain seems to have missed in all those years of experience. One of many such lessons. If all John’s experience can’t help him make good decisions, then how much is it really worth? The guy is plain unreliable and his chaotic decision-making process makes him a dangerous choice for president in today’s complex and threatening world.
Sarah and John are the biggest losers…….with his so call leadership experience and her know nothing abilities, we are all in big trouble if this DUO wins the Whitehouse.
By SeriousSam
October 6, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
Why does the American voter continue to reward the utter failure of these two loser parties by returning either of them to office to continue and build upon their failure? Could it be that the American vote sees itself as a loser?
By SeriousSam
October 6, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
Forget these two losers, obama and mccain are both unfit for this job. Vote for Ralph Nader, a truly great American. Go to his website. It would be the most patriotic thing you could do for America!
By mscutie78
October 6, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
Everyone is one here blogging back and forth about crap that does not matter to the American people. The American people want to know who’s going to get our economy back up and running - who is going to help the middle class - who is going to look out for our children’s education - those are the issues Americans want answers on - not on who was associated with who and when. I waited in line for 1.5 hrs to vote on Friday and when I voted I was PROUD to vote for the Obama/Biden ticket.
By hillbilly ragger
October 6, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
Paul Krugman explains just how sucktacular McCain’s healthcare proposal really is, in terms simple and direct enough, even a conservative can understand.
“the people gaining insurance would be those who need it least: relatively healthy Americans with high incomes. Why? Because insurance companies want to cover only healthy people, and even among the healthy only those able to pay a lot in addition to their tax credit would be able to afford coverage (remember, it’s a $5,000 credit, but the average family policy actually costs more than $12,000).
“Meanwhile, the people losing insurance would be those who need it most: lower-income workers who wouldn’t be able to afford individual insurance even with the tax credit, and Americans with health problems whom insurance companies won’t cover.
“And in the process of comforting the comfortable while afflicting the afflicted, the McCain plan would also lead to a huge, expensive increase in bureaucracy: insurers selling individual health plans spend 29 percent of the premiums they receive on administration, largely because they employ so many people to screen applicants. This compares with costs of 12 percent for group plans and just 3 percent for Medicare.”
By Peter
October 6, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
Come on Dusty……….
Do something a little “crazy”. Go wave our flag just for kicks. Drink a coke. Pick an apple off the tree. The sun is shining and it is going to be A GOOD DAY.
It is a wonderful day……. to tell the TRUTH……..!!!!!!!
McLost cheated on every wife he has had !
He is 2 for 2 on cheating on his wives………
That is Ethical ?
Dusty now you would actually believe him to tell the TRUTH to the American Public ! ? !
Palin Cheated on her TAX RETURN………
Dusty Now you would believe Palin when it comes to Economic matters ?
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 6, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Dear Obama @ 10:08, just as I suspected, Obama knows nothing except how to spend other people’s money.
Dear Peter @ 10:08, and I suppose you will argue democrats who reveal state secrets also suffered injuries in service to their country? Real persuasive. @ 10:27, I respectfully not the current panic in the markets are entirely attributable to liberal Federal Reserve money policy, corruption (mostly democrat) at FHLMC and FNMA, and statutory constraints on lending judgment mandating special consideration of protected classes – almost nothing with regard to the free market. However, I note the free market can always spot a crook – it fell 300 points from the beginning of the bailout vote Friday, and has fallen another 450 today. Perhaps someday leftist morons will learn that Congressional actions have economic consequences. @ 10:52, I realize you don’t understand, but the idea is buy low and sell high – today would be a great day to convert one’s social security into the stock market, except that we are at risk of having a Marxist president and moonbat Congress for the next couple of years.
Dear Communist @ 10:18, thanks, I had not heard that story. Of course, that is the corrupt standard we would expect from leftists.
Dear Ragger @ 10:27, “Parts of the bible really do promote all those things;” Your Biblical scholarship speaks for itself.
Dear Leigh @ 10:32, for the benefit of those of us who are a little slow, would you distinguish Obama’s economic plan from that of Karl Marx? I will concede that there is little reason to raise the Ayers connection, except for prospective meaning. If there is a difference between Obamanomics and Marxism, I think we should retire the Ayers argument. As yet, I have not seen that argument.
Dear Truth @ 11:00, you affirm erroneously, by omission. “Knowing someone and being on the same board with them or working with them, or even being related to them, doesn’t make you “pals.”” Obama was appointed to the Board by the founder of the board, William Ayers. Ayers knew what he was getting. And so did Obama.
Dear Chris @ 11:14, Bennett’s exact words: “And if there is one thing I am absolutely confident of, it is John McCain is an honest and honest man. I recommended to the Senate Ethics Committee that he be cut out of the case, that there was no evidence against him, and I think for the New York Times to dig this up just shows that Senator McCain’s public statement about this is correct. It’s a smear job. I’m sorry. ” I myself have been hired by former adversaries. My guess is that Captain Queeg would be interested in hiring Bennett because Bennett found he was an honest man, when the democrat pressure on Bennett was (as always) otherwise. Of course, you affirm Bennett is a typical democrat crook, but I suspect his only crime is apostasy.
By Big Problems
October 6, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
Frost
Obama “hitting back hard” made me laugh so much I actually blew spaghetti out of my nose. Literally, I pulled the remaining amount out through my nose. I didn’t think it was possible but I just learned a little physiology.
Now, I can definitely see the Kenyan famine victim and stick-figure candidate trying to b!tch slap someone - yeah, that’s possible. But hitting hard, well, let’s just leave that statement for the comedy clubs .
By AnonyMoose
October 6, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
“Pulling out all stops in a presidential race that Barack Obama just can’t seem to put away” — couldn’t that also read “Pulilng out all stops in a presidential race that John McCain just can’t seem to put away”?
Interesting how Wooten only views this close election as a failure on Obama’s part, but not on the part of McCain. If, as McCain, Wooten, and others, say that Obama isn’t ready to be president, why can’t a war hero with decades of service to his nation in Congress put away the election against a young upstart? I say the burden is on McCain here, not Obama.
By Southern Born
October 6, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Peter:
For the love of God, man, please go back on your meds!
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 6, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
Dear Spanky @ 12:04, “The tone of today’s politics was set in the Republican takeover of 94” - I disagree, I think the tone was set at the Bork hearing chaired by Joe Biden, with the character assassination of an honest man by Ted Kennedy.
By Road Scholar
October 6, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
Dusty: I sure hope you are right. It just seems that the two sides are so far apart, and this, coupled with the anger and name calling, will cause it not to be an uphill battle, but mountain climbing!
I am typicaly optimistic. I hope God and our collective faiths will help us. He is not neccessarily “on our side” as some like to say and think. During the world wars, we prayed “may God help us” and “your will be done” versus “He’s on our side” that the conservatives state now. I wish he’d talk directly to me!!!!
As men and women we still have our free wills to decipher our actions from our life’s philosophy right and wrong. Today it’s about insults and winning. Hope you have a good day.
By Peter
October 6, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
Hey interesting comment !……..who is going to look out for our children’s education -……………. very interesting concept………
Let’s look at the REPUBLICAN’s record there………
“Children Left Behind”……… after school programs closed………Boys and Girls Club of America’s funding dropped by Bush to Loving Republican !
Education Budget cut the last 8 years……..
Remember it is a cut throat society we live in…….
It has become time for the CHILDREN of AMERICA………… starting with the Pre-K Age ones, (age 4 and 5)…….to start standing up on their own in the DEREGULATION OF AMERICA ……..it should be up to these individuals to finding the “RIGHT” school for their education………!
By findog
October 6, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
Jim,
The leap between voter registration in jails and, “Efforts are frantic throughout the country to register every known and suspected Democrat,” is not so much a direct correlation to demographics as it is parity. The SCLC has seen how well the GOP did in voting themselves and their constituents trillions in pork from 1995 to 2007 that they now realize the true promise of the sacred right to vote is to fleece everone for personal benefit. This is direct democracy in action instead of using the courts to get, “better food and softer matresses,” they can vote for the politician that will deliver the pork to their cell.
My apologies to those of the Jewish and Muslim faith currently incarcerated, pork is a generic term and does not mean to imply that you actually want a ham sandwich.
By mayretter local
October 6, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
Quit whining about the registration of additional Legal (at this time) voters!!! We need to wake up the alreagy registered voters who won’t get off their lazy rear end and get them to the polls!!!
I wonder what the % of voters we will have this yer? 60% for an all time high? What is the all time high?
By ron
October 6, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this
Ragger——I don’t believe there’ll be any money available in the future for any health plan except McCain’s.Not without a healthy tax increase.As my friend,Howie Carr Says,”Bend Over!”.
By Peter
October 6, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Hey there……….By Southern Born ………..
I never ever was on Meds….take vitamines only !
My mom is 78 and still only takes vitamins, drives a car, and is president of a group of older folks who teach Illiterate folks to read and get ahead in life !
Guess what I have an education, and it wasn’t under a tree watching a lynching ………
Here is something for you to PONDER the LIES of Sarah Palin and John McLost……… the “Song Bird of Hanoi”….
McLost was responsible for more AMERICAN DEATH’s during the Vietnam WAR than any other person alive today !
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23140513/thetruthaboutsarahpa
Check OUT THE FACTS buddy…….. !
Sarah Palin is the QUEEN of PORK !
She worked 312 days from Home…….and charged Taxpayers for that privilege………. AND she didn’t pay her taxes on the money !
Call Sarah Palin…..MRS. PORK !
Yes BIG CHANGE…..MORE PORK PLEASE !
By Peter
October 6, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
Hey………By Ragnar Danneskjöld ……… I believe you are correct today………
Today is a good day to buy……..what I purchased today, all of them have PE’s around 10……….
I am buying for my retirement 10 to 14 years down the road……… It is good to think Long Term !
Anyway, the stock market HISTORICALLY goes UP with a Democrat in office…….Now is a good time to buy !
By Abomi Nation
October 6, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
Great news Jim! Since the Zogby poll you referred to is 11 days old I thought i would post the daily Gallup poll results from 11 days ago. The race is tied!!!
Thats right, all tied up. McCain and Obama both at 46%.
Now even though todays Gallup has Obama up by 8, I sure get the sense that the Dems are “frantic,” don’t you Jim?
By findog
October 6, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
Ragnar @9:55 Senator Shelby [R-Alabama] is the bright government official that leaked how we were targeting OBL, satellite phone, and thus closed our best real time source for locating public enemy number one. I know the liberal elite media made him do it but really to lower your self to Peter’s level is folly; I’d not accept his premise as a basis of argument. As for the bailout it appears to be a little like trying to bail out a boat with a coffee cup when the sinking started after your foot broke through the hull. [Check with your son on the terminology, as I am a land loving army type]
As for those chastising Governor Palin for attacking Senator Obama, it’s about time we got a new Agnew to openly embrace the unwritten role of the running mate, attack dog. Those poo-pooing her attacks probably applauded how Senator Biden went after Senator McCain, God love him, during the debate…
By @@
October 6, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
O-:MG Jim!!!!! I didn’t know that was permissible in Georgia.
I’ve heard of pressing the flesh in politics……but fleshmongering?
democrats pimpin’ the perps with hotties and a cot.
I
don’t
know
what
to
say. Except……….
my neighbor, myself, and my husband have succeeded in registering nine (never bothered to vote) conservatives. We purchased 25 McCain/Palin signs that went like hotcakes to people who wanted them for their yards.
Three of my black neighbors requested some. The one guy (passionate black conservative) didn’t surprise me. One was because of OBlahMa’s stance on abortion, and the other (a rodeo rider/fireman) was because he thinks OBlahMa is a muslim operative.
Thank GOODNESS! There’s still hope for Clayton County’s PROUD AMERICANS.
By Steve-O
October 6, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
Jim, you are delusion as usual. So Obama just can’t seem to put this one away and leads only by 4 percentage points? Really? Well I have two comments on that. First of all this is not a popular vote election. It is an electoral vote election and Obama is at about 353 electoral votes right now in the polls and McCain is at about 180. Can you say landslide? Also, what poll are you looking at? In most polls he is up at around 8 points over McCain. Sounds like you are cherry picking which polls to listen to. I did early voting today in DeKalb and at 10 this morning there were about 1000 people in line happily waiting to vote. McCain is not the only one going down. My prediction is Saxby is done, too. Hallelujah!
By Ga Values
October 6, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
I’m running slow in my reading today, If you don’t normally read the Washington Post, spend 5 minutes on this. The 1st part answeres a lot of my questions.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2008/10/06/BL2008100601139.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
By Captain Freedom
October 6, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
THE Captain agrees wholeheartedly with Wooten’s premise that Democrats — negroes, every last one of them — would sell their vote for a pack of Kools and a side of wings. Why, any Right Thinking American knows this to be true.
But THE Captain takes vigorous exception to the islmunistolefties here who try to drag the Good Name of St Johhny Maverick through the mud. The very idea that a man’s extrmarital dalliances bear upon his Honor and Integrity. Nothing could be further from the truth, as I’m sure Messrs. Gingrich, Limbaugh, Livingston, Clinton, Barr, et al would readily attest.
Next thing you know, some smarty pants is going to say also that Sarah Plain’s mad muthering skilz are somehow also called into question also by the fact that her son Trick (short for Tricknosis) only enlisted in the Army to avoid a jail term on drug charges. As if that were any reflection also on Our Geewhiz Yabetcha Bestest Goshdarn Hockey Mom EVAH. Also.
Just as with also young Britney Lynn Plain who got knocked up in a meth-fueled haze of adolescent hormonal frenzy, also this in no way diminishes Sarah Plain’s most excellent mothering skills. (Sure, she could have encouraged young Britney Lynn to take it in the natural gas pipeline instead also, but since they are not Catholic she is probably not as conversant also with that particular approach to birth control.) And now Our Best Mother on Earth is about to also become a grandmother, which makes her also even that much more just like us that she was before, shouting out the teachers with energy independence also y’know the media and their GOTCHA, telling them what it was like to be free, onnnggllla hommmmmmiter funnnnnnnnnredpillgottahavesome. Also and Amen.
We of True Belief salute the parents who steer their children into needle-heavy drug abuse because they boost enlistements at the prod of judicial encouragement. Because nothing says cannon fodder like methamphetamine!!!
Thus saith THE Captain, and it is very also true.
By Ga Values
October 6, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
For what it’s worth Karl Rowe presented this of Fox yesterday.
http://rove.com/election
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 6, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
Dear Ron @ 1:10, I suspect you are right. We may be coming into an American economy where it would make sense to be subject to taxation elsewhere - time to get one of those Saudi/Bahrain jobs. Or there is always the John Galt solution.
Dear findog @ 1:28, fair argument; I was contemplating Leaky Leahy’s (D-VT) longer history as I wrote. As to your other suggestion, I suspect the Lt JG (naval flight officer) would use a phrase like “trying to bail out a boat with a coffee cup when the sinking started after your foot broke through the hull.” Your argument indirectly focuses my mind – if my son is to be in service to his country, I am more comfortable entrusting his future with Captain Queeg than with Chauncey. Not that a prospective vote is an issue – I cast my lot with Queeg last week. I think the bottom line for me was the incompetent pseudo-conservative vs the potentially-competent Marxist, or an alternative view of the rightly-oriented with questionable talent, vs the wrongly-oriented with arguable talent.
By Jim the *real* conservative
October 6, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
I’m undecided. All the choices (even the third party ones) are terrible, most especially for the economy.
By BuckheadBill
October 6, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
After reading the above tripe from both sides——I really do have doubts about the survival of this great country. And the “Greatest Generation” is dying daily at a rate of approximately 1600. How sad!
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
October 6, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
Good links, GA Values, thanks.
By Beyond Bemused
October 6, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
Research 2000 has Chambliss-Martin at 45-44% as of 10/1. I suspect the next poll might will show Martin ahead.
I guess all those voter suppression efforts by Glenn Richardson, Karen Handel and the rest of the GOP junior Karl Roves aren’t paying off like they’d hoped.
It will be beyond wonderful to watch these anti-democratic hacks become forcibly retired in the coming years by a new Georgia coalition that will take our country and our state back from the troglodytes who’ve had their way for the last few years.
The old refrain, as always, obtains: the people, united, can never be defeated.
By Ga Values
October 6, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
If you don’t get a smile out of this you need to shoot yourself.. Captain Freedom could not have made this up.
DeLay: McCain’s “hard to swallow”
The former House Majority Leader veers off message in an interview with PolitickerCA: “If McCain wins the election, we’ve got just as much work to do as if Obama won,” DeLay said. “I’ve known McCain for 23 years, and McCain’s hard to swallow.”
More: “His stance on global warming, immigration, campaign finance, affirmative action,” DeLay said, “it’s just a whole list of things that is not going to appeal to conservative Republicans. And if he becomes president, teaming up with the Democrats, we’re going to have a lot of work to do to stop them.”
This is actually not a bad thing for McCain vis a vis independent voters as it allows his campaign to note that he’s taken on and angered members of parties.
DeLay, it should be noted, did say he was planning to vote for McCain and that Obama is “awful.”
By findog
October 6, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this
Drew @ 10:27
Either tax’s go up so that the budget deficit is closed and we return to where we were paying off the trillions in debt or we continue to borrow from Saudi Arabia and China thus depressing the value of the dollar and the tax’s you don’t pay go to Saudi Arabia for the gas you use to go shopping at the Chinese outlet store generally referred to as Wal-Mart.
DD @10:46
In polite society we do not say lie; the political correct phrase is misspoke. The president did not actually lie to congress his emissaries merely misspoke when testifying under oath about the mushroom clouds that Iraq was planning to unleash on a major American metropolitan area.
Hellbent @10:52
Actually, “Every time you vote Republican, God kills a kitten.”
By TheBeast
October 6, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
McCain is about to receive his worst b*** since his days in the Hanoi Hilton!
By mm
October 6, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
Wingnuts, you really need to change your campaign strategy.
Continuing to spout Ayers, Rev Wright, too much government, tax and spend, no experience, etc, etc, etc. is not working.
I forgot, you’re not known for paying attention to facts. Like the fact that polls are starting to show a landslide victory for the Dems in November.
You are actually causing republicans to vote for Obama.
Even Ross Perot ran a better campaign than McCain has.
And what’s his latest stunt? The RNC is requesting a probe of Obama’s fundraising.
By findog
October 6, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this
Dusty @11:13
Well said, unfortunately none are so demented as those who will not take their meds [12:05, 12:11, 12:32].
Spankmonkey @12:04
Now, now, now, Newt did stop the daily delivery of ice to the congressional offices…
Ragnar @2:08
If my daughter were to choose to serve I would concur…
Beyond Bemused @2:18
Voter suppression is for the actual day of the election. Police check points, poll watchers checking ID, blitz calling into the oppositions phone banks, ect…
By SeriousSam
October 6, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
Be intelligent, vote for Ralph Nader, a truly great American. Visit his website. You will be glad you did.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
October 6, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
we’ll take the vote of the Devil hisself if he got a photo ID.
Redneck, do you have your photo ID?
By Redneck Convert
October 6, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Got my CDL right here next to my heart. How are they going to know if Those People are voting more than once? My Daddy always told me, “Son, you know all … look alike.”
By AmVet
October 6, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
Sam, did yo see him on C-Span yesterday?
IF the Democratic and Republican parties actually believed in a representative democracy and allowed him to debate McCain and Obama, he would garner millions of voters immediately.
He makes that much more sense.
Does anyone still believe that these men have your and my best interests at heart?
Ralph Nader unarguably is the only candidate for US President in my lifetime with the knowledge and courage to FUNDAMENTALLY change the corrupt, self-serving and inept status quo in Washington.
And take back the power from the plutocrats and the utterly corrupted major political parties and return it to the people.
And isn’t that what Americans really want?
By CDog
October 6, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
Obama wants full-fledged socialism. McCain wants socialism-lite. Not much of a choice for constitutional fiscal conservatives. The reason I would vote for McCain is that on important issues such as court justice nominees, 2nd amendment rights, and abortion, there is a clear distinction between the two.
By Frost
October 6, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
McCain is about to receive his worst b since his days in the Hanoi Hilton!* worth repeating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Hero-Captive is gonna get a beating!!!!!!!!!!
By Peter
October 6, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
Hey ……………By Ragnar Danneskjöld ………. Did you BUY today?
WOW………it was a wonderful day to get some bargains with a low PE………
By Dusty
October 6, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Ah Poor Captain Freedom @2:05….
This benevolent Robin Hood of the Rich & Riotous for the licentious Libworld now comes to us as the Besmircher of WomanHood and the Malodorous Manic Against Teenage Temperaments.
Into this bitter mix Captain Freedom adds his personal experience with drugs, marital mishaps and fried bigot of chicken wings. Even Maid Marian rejects this melange of the mangey.
Captain Freedom FALLS face-flatly like his other persona of trailer park trash aka RedNeck the rube of Undercover libs. A poopoo and a pox on this pairing of predators. Ir’s ipecac for you and away you go.
By Republicans R Crooks
October 6, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
You sinking repukes are going DOWN…This time next year, you will all be broke, in prison, and dying slowly of cancer…mark my words, you scum bags…..ha ha ha…..
By Captain Freedom
October 6, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this
Can anyone understand Sister Dusty @ 4:27? It must be nice to have a second language, though THE Captain has deliberately never learned one because people should learn to speak English just like God and Jesus did.
Dusty usually follows some vague syntactical guidelines, though, and THE Captain is concerned that she may have suffered a stroke like Johnny Maverick did during that interview with in Iowa last week.
By Peter is a DICK
October 6, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this
Peter- You are a sad, sad little person. Why so angry there little guy?
But your comments about McCain and his Hanoi song bird crap are over the line. I would love for you to have the balls to say that to McCain. Or for that matter any service man that has returned from any war. To bring up someone who was tortured and then said his wounds came from his ejection. Screw the right and left side of it.
Your 78 year old mother should have told your dad to let you drip down his leg.
If it had elimnated you I would gladly support ABORTION
By GayGrayGeek
October 6, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
Cap’n Freedom, it would appear that the DustBuster has finally replaced what few working synapses she had in her head with one (or maybe both) of the pom-poms she uses to cheerlead for her Fearless Leaders Bush & Cheney.
Plus, you forget, kind sir - Jesus didn’t speak English. Jesus spoke in RED. Like them Russkies that Sister Sarah can see from her house.
By TW
October 6, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
Is there any way to lessen the damage Sarah Palin’s ‘campaign’ will do to the character of white people? I mean, it’s bad enough ‘w’ has made it nearly impossible for a white man to run for President, but now Palin’s gonna drag us through her month long Jerry Springer audition? No need Sarah – your booked for a whole season.
It’s as though the neocon GOP had a vendetta against white people, and even though they trashed the men, they still felt the need to pull Sister Sarah out of her trailer to finish off the white women as well.
God I miss the real Republicans.
By getalife
October 6, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
Funny watching the gop trying to distract away from the economy.
These hearings show how broken and corrupt our government really is.
Pitiful.
By GayGrayGeek
October 6, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this
getalife - Consider the following text for an ad:
**As John McCain says, “Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.”
And we all know how successful, how wonderful banking deregulation was, don’t we, my friends. **
Where’s a 527 with spare cash when we need one? Let that last sentence be read while the background picture is a black-and-white (or maybe sepia) photograph of the iconic “Wall St.” corner street sign, and the effect would be as devastating for Bushy McClone as the “Daisy” ad was for Goldwater back in ‘64…
By getalife
October 6, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this
McCain does nothing as supporter calls Obama a “terrorist”
Time for the Secret Service to arrest these lunatics.
By Dusty
October 6, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
Captain Freedom, 4:51 ] You failed, honey. You failed.
You are now known as miserable misanthrope.
Your syntax is sunk.
Your facade is feebly facetious.
Your lying is formidable.
Should I post in BIG LETTERS so you can read it? Sentences underlined?
McCain said “Hi”. (He is always friendly to the pitiful and the poorly, even libs.) Now wave your hand. That’s it!! GOOD BOY!!
By Captain Freedom
October 6, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
THE Captain objects to the achromatic Hellenic Homo regarding the suggestion that Jesus did not speak English. THE Captain, sir, has read His Bible, and nowhere does Jesus use words with an imbalance of vowels and consonants. Because He knows that His Bible is the Inerrant Word of God Almighty, THE Captain ergo knows without the faintest shadow of a smidgen of doubt that Jesus was a native English speaker. Only an ignoramous would opine otherwise.
But THE Captain is Himself not inerrant, and apologizes to Mr Wooten for ignoring his central premise for most of the day. Mea culpa. No offense intended, but it is often difficult to recall the ephemeral scribblings of Our Host in his progressing dotage. Still, THE Captain knows who owns this megaphone, and He wishes to stay in the good graces. Mea maxima culpa. Thus…
THE Captain is foursquare opposed to better food and soft mattresses. Because for five and a half years, John McPalin had lousy food and slept on a floor of jagged rocks. Anyone who likes good food and a soft mattress hates America.
So saith THE Captain, and it is of course very very true.
By Dusty
October 6, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
getalife 5:17
They haven’t come for YOU yet???
By Peter
October 6, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this
HA HA HA…….to….. By Peter is a DICK ……………
Boy, why don’t you REALLY find the TRUTH ……..HA HA HA………..
“To bring up someone who was tortured and then said his wounds came from his ejection.”
HA HA HA…….. You don’t really know, so you are Just Ignorant…….He REALLY did break his two arms, and fracture his leg at ejection and landing……… Gee why don’t you TRY to find some facts…….are you capable of using the Internet…….or are you has internet savy as McLost ?
I also see how Republicans are……… You really are for abortion after all !
White man speaks with forked tongue !
Maybe the Song Bird of Hanoi will sing to you the way he sang to Michigan…..he will just quit on YOU !
Sarah Palin cheated on her taxes……..did you get the Memo ?
Sarah Palin stayed 312 days at her own home……then she charged the Taxpayers for being an AT HOME Governor……….then charged the state thousands more for her and her family to run about !
Did you get the memo ?
WHY are YOU so angry ? Maybe it is because your President Bush is the worst president ….ALL TIME ?
Check the deficit lately……..how about unemployment ?
Boy the Republicans have done a lousy JOB, is that why all you can do is call names ?
By GayGrayGeek
October 6, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
Cap’n, they may have been English words, but Jesus spoke them in RED. Just like Sister Sarah’s next-door neighbors she can see out of her kitchen window…
By Dusty
October 6, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this
Dear Captain,5:26
By golly, such eloquence!! I do believe you may pull out of your demise, the affliction of the doddering dimwits. Congratulations!
You stayed on subject. You read the Good Book. You may reach the heights of Grumpy the Gray Gay Geek even though you are much, much older (if such a thing is possible).
But I give you credit. You lie with vim and vigor.
Carry on, brave soul. Do not fear. Obama is going to furnish you with FREE food, FREE healthcare, FREE mortgage FREE busrides and a few pennies for your allowance after taxes. Rejoice! Now wave your hand!! That’s a good guy!!
By Peter
October 6, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this
Hey Dusty……….. funny comment………..Carry on, brave soul. Do not fear. Obama is going to furnish you with FREE food, FREE healthcare, FREE mortgage FREE busrides and a few pennies for your allowance after taxes. Rejoice! Now wave your hand!! That’s a good guy!!
Perhaps you have not read the current news…….. 60% of Americans say we are going into a DEPRESSION……..
Poll: 60% say depression ‘likely’ Poll finds 6 of 10 believe a depression is somewhat or very likely - seeing 25% unemployed and millions homeless and hungry.
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — Nearly six out of ten Americans believe another economic depression is likely, according to a poll released Monday.
The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll, which surveyed more than 1,000 Americans over the weekend, cited common measures of the economic pain of the 1930s:
* 25% unemployment rate; * widespread bank failures; and * millions of Americans homeless and unable to feed their families.In response, 21% of those polled say that a depression is very likely and another 38% say it is somewhat likely.
Don’t speak so soon……..you my dear may be one of the folks with Problems…….I hoped you saved according to “Kramer” !
As for myself………….. I believe in America, so I don’t think it will get that bad !
By Jim Jr.
October 6, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this
What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington’s Culture of Deception (Hardcover) by Scott McClellan (Author)
Your Government Failed You: Breaking the Cycle of National Security Disasters (Hardcover) by Richard A. Clarke (Author)
Study: False statements preceded war By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL, Associated Press Writer 19 minutes ago WASHINGTON - A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks. The study concluded that the statements “were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses.” The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism. Four more years – John (George Jr) McCain
By Captain Freedom
October 6, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
THE Captain is undeterred by the low opinion of other people. It is the signal trait that has brought Him so far in life.
However, THE Captain does appreciate the feeble attempts at hecklement that exudes from the wafting Dusty, not for the quality of the heckle (which ranks very low indeed), but rather for the role she serves as straight man (no offense, Hellenic Homo!), as parry, as Dino to my Jerry. (ahhhhaaaaaahhhhh, niiiiice laaaaaay-dee)
No, check that. Dusty rather brings to mind the thespian stylings of Margaret Dumont, favorite foil of the Marxist Groucho. Asked why he so enjoyed working with Dumont, Groucho replied, “Because she never knows what the hell is going on around her, but she always acts like she does.” And twas ever thus with Sister D.
By Carbon F.
October 7, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
Greenspan said the danger here stems from W’s narrative about how the bailout would avert an economic collapse. In spite of no WMD’s, Americans believed him.
That sets up a self-fulfilling prophesy if it becomes apparent that the bailout is insufficient, which many are suggesting.
Notice how the media has backpedaled on the dire emergency and scenarios of doom, and how the bailout wont work?
Now, Americans are set up to spend less as a reflex action, as quickly as they were marketed into impulse buying.
W screwed up again. He’s not the boy who cried wolf, although he should be. Instead, he’s the “I am become death” demon who spoke disaster and caused it.
Self fulfilling prophesy: Who knows what character in literature or mythology represents it?
…………………
Paladin 08: Have bun (in oven). Will lie to husband about it.
By Dusty
October 7, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Ah well,
Slow day. And the Captain, tarnished foil that he is, recalls (last night) his favorite actress Margaret Dumont. Who?? Goggle said she died in 1965. 1965 !!!! and the Captain is STILL a loyal fan! (But, Captain, it MAY be time to remove your bumper sticker ” MargaRET is a Star…You BET”!) The Packard will still run without it.
I commend your faithfulness to Margaret.. There IS a later ‘star’ that you might enjoy. Her name is Shirley Temple.
But let us move ahead. Today’s topic is those dastardly amendments. Jim needed to serve refreshments to ‘liven up this one.
See ya’ later…alligator. After while, croc….oh never mind.
By SeriousSam
October 7, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
AmVet, I completely agree with you. The doting American voters will blissfully return one of these incompetent characters to office for further chronic failure. Ralph Nader is a great American. He doesn’t dodge any questions in debates. Go to his websit if you want to read about a real American hero. He has saved the American consumer many times from fraud and the willful neglect of contemporary pirates. He could save Americans from the pirates of these two political parties if elected President of the United States. He is by far the most qualified candidate. The two that are being permitted to debate are basically clones of all the other past failures. If you have the most remote condition of courage in your soul to do what is best for America, vote for Ralph Nader. Visit his website. You will be glad you did!
By SeriousSam
October 7, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
THE GREAT AMERICAN RACE: Hurry, hurry, hurry and register to vote and elect the next incompetent American president! Folks, while there’s still time, register and vote for a Republican or Democratic candidate for President of the United States of America. With your meager help of just one vote for one of these candidates, we can soar our national deficit from 10 trillion dollars to 100 trillion dollars in the shortest time imaginable, but we need your help. All you need but do is to send either of these two failed characters to the White House in November. Why it’s entirely possible that we can reach our lofty goal of 100 trillion dollars of national debt in less time than you can lose your job, your house, your car, and your self respect. Now, hurry while you can and let’s meet our goal of obtaining a 100 trillion dollar deficit with the most unimaginable godspeed. And we have tried to make it the easiest of chores so it’s not so confusing by permitting only candidates from parties who are the most capable of meeting this landmark goal. We know you can help us do this, America! All you have to do is the same thing you do every election by voting for the confined choices that we present you with on election day. To make it foolproof, all you have to is to choose a candidate that you see on stage during one of our fixed debates. If the voting goes as we are hoping, it is possible that we can attain our goal by the end of the winning candidate’s next two terms, and with luck, even sooner!!
By Serious Sam
October 7, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
BEST OPTION: Hurry, hurry, hurry, stop ‘THE GREAT AMERICAN RACE and end the madness by voting for and electing Ralph Nader, President of the United States of America. Ralph Nader’s race will be to instill common sense and reaon into government. See his website! No more deficit spending, no more bailouts, no more unnecessary and ultra-expensive wars, no more failed foreign policy that undermines our national public interest, no more shredding and abandoning our constitution!! Be a real American hero yourself by electing Ralph Nader to the office of Presidency of the United States of America!
By Serious Sam
October 7, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
Visit Ralph Nader’s website and make a generous donation in our epic battle to fight the contagion of stupidity! Small donations will make a significant impact! and of course, vote for him on election day!