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Not a good night for Palin’s team

You have to give it to Joe Biden. No question he had the far better grasp of details of legislation that has gone through Congress in the 35 years he has been there. You have to give it to him, too. He succeeded in something Sarah Palin should have done more effectively, and that’s targeting the top of the other party’s ticket.

Biden’s experience in Senate debate and in running for President allowed him to distill his talking points and he delivered them very effectively.

To be honest, Palin missed a number of opportunities to draw distinctions between her team and the other party’s. She also acquiesced to Biden’s insistence that greed and corruption on Wall Street were the major cause of the financial meltdown that has occurred.

Her strategy was to talk straight to the American people. Did it work? Maybe, had she stayed more consistently on message. She didn’t.

She pretty much gave Biden free rein to lambast McCain. Not a good night for her team.

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By Reid in EAV

October 2, 2008 10:40 PM | Link to this

Early web deadlines? Palin still had 20 minutes to speak when this was posted. Can we at least wait for the event to end before we engage in punditry?

By Andrew

October 2, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this

She has to actually answer a question with something other than “MAVERICK!” or “NUKEULAR!” to win.

By Matthew

October 2, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this

What?

Palins performance was FAR better than McCain’s. Now, I don’t think it was enough to revive the McCain campaign, but she far exceeded expectations, and easily won on several key issues I didn’t expect her to do overly well on.

By Lee

October 2, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this

Palin did miss numerous opportunities.

When Jumpin’ Joe said he and Obama wanted to make America the most respected nation in the world again, she should have asked Biden which nation he (and Obama) respect more.

I hate to lose to a socialist.

By TMF

October 2, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten, for once, you have spoken the truth! Palin, although well, coached, was CLEARLY OUT OF HER LEAGUE!!! Palin could not stay more consistently on message/topic because if the subject was not written down in her playbook that she was reading from, she could not answer the question!

By Aquagirl

October 2, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

Jim, did you miss the memo? The bar was set pretty low for Palin. Like a rookie quarterback, her team just wanted her not to lose the game. She’s on the ticket to keep the far-right crowd happy and headed to the polls. They don’t care if she generates a single brainwave. Mission accomplished.

By Jacki_Fraust

October 2, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

I agree with you.

Biden is experienced, knows the issues, and he and Obama are prepared to deal with the issues. Palin was vague, scattered, and clearly showed a lack of experienced. The question that kept occurring in my mind was, “What makes anyone think that Palin is capable of being Vice President of this nation”? Anyone who thinks so has got to be an idiot because Palin is clearly an idiot. She needs to just go ahead and dye her hair blond. Then she’d look as dittsy a* she is. “YOU BETCHA!!!”

By Omar

October 2, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

Biden’s 35 years in the US Senate is “CHANGE” ?

He’s part of the damn problem ! We need term limits !

By SharonH

October 2, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

Jim, are you okay? C’mere let me feel your forehead. I was sure you would be in here crowing about how straightforward and plain-talking little Sara was. Gosh, I’m worried about you.

I thought Palin did far, far better than I anticipated. Almost all of her sentences had a noun and a verb, she was even coherent quite a good bit. She stuck to the talking points and used the buzz words liberally as she was no doubt prepped to do over and over again, you’re darn right she did. I was disappointed since I thought the whole thing would be more entertaining than it was. Whoever coached her did one “heck” of a job (to use another one of her favorite words).

By Ray

October 2, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

Home run time. It’s a whole new race.

By AWP

October 2, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this

Lee you need to get a grip with this socialist crap. Its old and tired just like John McCain.

By Owain Ozymandias Buck

October 2, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this

I think she did alright. She showed good debate skill and answer shifting tactics. Not bad for either one. Joe did good, too. Neither one made a terrible blunder.

Joe couldn’t remember Gen McKiernan’s name—he was wise enough to just say “the commanding general in Afghanistan.” Sarah tried to one-up him by saying his name and called him “McClellan.” I sure hope they wouldn’t dig up McClellan and give him another chance!

I don’t feel so bad about Palin now. I still think she’d be a disaster as prez, but I was glad to hear her defend gay rights—it seems she supports gay marriage in all but name. I was also glad to hear her concern for middle class issues. By God, I think she’s a closet Democrat!

I’m still voting Obama.

By Captain Freedom

October 2, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this

Wow. Holy Cow. Our Sarah really hit it out of the park. What a winner.

But…

THE Captain wonders about two things.

First, the left side of her face kept on contorting on this strange spasm or rictus or something. THE Captain thought she was having a stroke, but Mrs Freedom said that she was winking and flirting. THE Captain still thinks she should be screened for an ischemic event.

Second…for the love of humanity, someone get that woman a laxative. While she certainly wiped the floor with O’Biden and completely and totally won the debate and thereby won the election for Johnny Maverick, the poor woman looked as though she had not evacuated her bowels for at least 5 days. Trust THE Captain on this. He knows.

Thus saith THE Captain, and it is very true.

By BigUnc

October 2, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this

Jim you must be sick to your stomach, kind comments for Biden?

Reid in EAV to deny Jim would know the outcome with time remaining would be for UGA faithful to have stayed in the stands late into the fourth quarter last week expecting a come back, the book had been shut.

By newsandverse

October 2, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

TWO WRONGS MAKE A RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT Spoken by either presidential candidate to his running mate after their debate

Your match before the TV throng tonight, Was to show if I was wrong or right In my selecting you to ride along, In hopes that you’d turn out more right than wrong.

You showed us all that you are strong with fight And that you try to be less wrong than right. But I am still prepared to smite the gong If you ever get the Bill of Rights all wrong.

www.newsandverse.com Light verse, ripped from the headlines

By AWP

October 2, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

Lee you need to get a grip with this socialist crap. Its old and tired just like John McCain.

By Peter

October 2, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this

Come on folks she didn’t answer most of the questions, and she would scare the heck out of America if something bad did happen to McLost, and she became President !

She did a great SOCCER MOM…….

By the way I believe she had a very expensive Sports Complex put in Wasella, and as I understand they still don’t have a sewer system there.

I also understand she left the city with a very large DEFICIT as well……

If that is indeed the case, where are the priorities ?

By Juliea

October 2, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this

I have to agree with Jim. Not a great night for the McCain team.

By Help

October 2, 2008 10:59 PM | Link to this

That is all the Obama campaign is about: Help with your life.

Who will pay for all this help? You.

By Jacki_Fraust

October 2, 2008 10:59 PM | Link to this

Palin is indeed out of her league.

Biden blew Palin away. Biden is experienced, has leadership quality, and has credibility. No one ever heard of Palin before they plucked her out of obscurity in Alaska, which is about as far away as you can get from mainstream America and still be in a US state. Palin lacked credibility before this debate and her lackluster performance showed that she is out of touch with the people she tried to talk directly to (mainstream America). McCain is finished. With Palin on his ticket, he is toast. It’s over the Republicans.

By Bobert

October 2, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this

Were you watching the same debate?

Wow. Jimbo. common, Joe did OK, but when he tried to start crying, that was awful.

Sarah did a fantastic job. She hit a Home Run!

By Charles I. Swann

October 2, 2008 11:02 PM | Link to this

Damn Sarah, Thought you’d represent me better than that but I realize you are clearly out of your league and so am I. What did I just say?

By Charles I. Swann

October 2, 2008 11:02 PM | Link to this

Damn Sarah, Thought you’d represent me better than that but I realize you are clearly out of your league and so am I. What did I just say?

By al

October 2, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

You are absolutely blind. Palin crushed him.

By M. Thomas

October 2, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this

Palin stated that she has only been at this for five weeks so she hasn’t promised much! She has five weeks of experience in Washington and she is a heart beat away from being president???? PLEASE! Obama 08!

By csquared

October 2, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this

Of course she did better than expected. She didn’t have to do more than show up and speak fairly intellegently for that low bar. But just showing up and spesking from the playbook and having a rational conversation without reorting to talking points would have required Bear Bryant to be her coach. More telling for the entire team is that on the heels of their pullout from michigan, which they acknowledge they can’t win, is the fact that she’s just not the person for the veep slot.

By nobama

October 2, 2008 11:04 PM | Link to this

*By AWP

October 2, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this

Lee you need to get a grip with this socialist crap. Its old and tired just like John McCain.*

Fighting Commies never gets old.

By dave

October 2, 2008 11:06 PM | Link to this

Brother Jim, Sarah was real, that my friend is what connects her with the people. McCain will probably lose this thing, but Sarah, she will be around for a long time… Palin/Jindal 2012

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

October 2, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this

Jim, I agree with you. Biden trounced Palin! She seems to think winks and shout-outs and canned answers to unasked questions is what the American people want. It isn’t! The American people, who have had a steady diet of lies over the last eight years, want facts, the truth!

By Midori

October 2, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this

I think I’m going to faint - an honest, truthful observation from a republican.

there is hope after all.

By RueDee

October 2, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this

Palin had already revealed her lack of knowledge and qualifications. Whatever came out of her mouth wasn’t hers; they were her handlers’ words.

By stacy

October 2, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

She was wearing a wire around her ear! Someboday was telling her what to say!

By Filster

October 2, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

While I would have liked to see Palin draw into the debate Obama and his cronies involvement in the Feddie Mac/Fannie Mae debacle (they got what they paid for), given all the rheotoric and talking heads negativity about her, i thought she did a pretty decent job. Personally, I would given Biden a slight edge. But a slght edge with 28 years in the Senate vs. what, a couple weeks preparation? Y’all have sold Palin short so much. Proven executive experience (80% approval rating from the state overal vs. the fes malcontents the media has ferreted out). Does W or the Congress have an 80% approval rate? A willingness to go against party lines, forthright speaking to Joh Q? Yeah, I’ll take Palin over Obama, and even Biden whom I respect. Shame it isn’t Biden-Palin. We might get some $hit done in DC.

By Lenny

October 2, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

i was going to vote Obama, but now i just might swing right on this, McCain/Palin. Both did very well tonight, but I feel Palin came out on top

By Dusty

October 2, 2008 11:11 PM | Link to this

Lovely evening!!1 Sarah Palin was so good she has liberals stunned! She was so far ahead in this debate that the commentators are still stammering and stuttering, trying to find something ANYTHING they can complain about.

SHE WAS EXCELLENT! Even Biden knew it. She was smart and well informed and energetic. Joe looked tired. If I were supporting Obama I’d be tired too.

McCain is the strong man and Sarah is the energy. What a team. Yes, indeed, a lovely evening and a great debate.

By deegee

October 2, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this

She’s a walking, talking bumper sticker. I would give her an 7.0 for style and a 2.0 for substance.

By b6542

October 2, 2008 11:18 PM | Link to this

Wooten when did you write this article ? Were you actually watching ? I could UNDERSTAND what Palin was saying….. You must have been out looking for gas……Hope you found some.

By change1

October 2, 2008 11:18 PM | Link to this

Body count: In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago, 221 killed in Iraq.

Sens. Barack Obama & Dick Durbin,

Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.,

Gov. Rod Blogojevich,

House leader Mike Madigan,

Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike),

Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of former Mayor Richard J. Daley)…..

the leadership in Illinois…..all Democrats.

Chicago is a combat zone. Of course they’re all blaming each other.

Can’t blame Republicans, there aren’t any!

State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country. Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. (Look’em up if you want). Chicago school system one of the worst in country.

This is the political culture that Obama comes from!

He’s gonna ‘fix’ Washington politics? Yeah, right!

By Jean

October 2, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this

She wasn’t bad, but the problem is that he was great. I honestly hadn’t seen him debate…I skipped the primaries. Wow. I really was impressed.

She was OK. Not great, but no huge issues. But I don’t have any more faith than I did before that she can take this role.

By Kurt

October 2, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this

Fine, she has short-term memory and can spout verbiage to fill the allotted time. Beauty queens learn early the importance of the Q&A section. It is sad evidence of the decline of our democracy that the American voter will by-and-large accept evidence of short term memory as qualification for high office. The fact is her mind is being shaped, carved and trained by the same kinds of ‘presentation experts’ that usually go to work on ‘Idol’ contestants.

Sarah Palin has said yes to the ultimate American Idol challenge: Can a nominally talented, average Jo be trained to hold the pose long enough to fool the public into believing she deserves to make it to the finals.

Sarah Palin’s candidacy is an affront to every self-respecting voter and to those (like Joe Biden) who have - however imperfectly - given their lives in sincere and noble service to our country.

In choosing her as his VP pick, John McCain has done the opposite of what he claims as his political signature: he has valued his political survival over the good of the nation. No amount of populist posturing on her part can cover the fact that she is absolutely out of her depth.

By Ray

October 2, 2008 11:22 PM | Link to this

Watch the polls change in the next few days. If she just brings McCain up to even, they have won the election. Common sense and sincerity will win every time.

By art

October 2, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this

People, step back and take a look at the two parties you are discussing. Neither is representative fo the American people. We are a fiscally conservative socially liberal people (at least I am) on the whole. The Democraps are fiscally liberal and socially liberal; the Retardicans are fiscally liberal and socially conservative.

Will somebody who represents most Americans please run for office!!!

This corrupt two-party system is going to be the end of America.

By carolyn j. williams

October 2, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

Jim, I almost fell out of my chair when I read your comments. So the AJC must have finally delivered the warning, “No more columns based on bogus facts.” Thank you AJC. Palin could not talk about the difference between her party and Obama/Palin because she doesn’t know the difference and it more than likely was not on her cue cards. Keep up the “straight talk” Jim, I might be able to tolerate reading another of your columns.

By Wise granny

October 2, 2008 11:28 PM | Link to this

The saddest part of this debate occurred at the end when Palin’s baby was paraded up on stage late at night for an opportunitstic photo-op when any other caring mother would make sure her child was at home asleep. Middle america granny says get a sitter and stop torturing this child! Palin’s bad judgment was on view for all to see with this self-serving faux pas.

By WW5

October 2, 2008 11:30 PM | Link to this

LET’S SEE WHAT THE NEW POLLS SHOW COME THIS WEEKEND BEFORE YOU CROWN OBAMA. I THINK YOU WILL SEE IT HAS DRAWN EVEN AND IS NOW MCCAIN’S CHANCE TO BREAK OUT OR BREAK DOWN.

By Mrs.Godzilla

October 2, 2008 11:30 PM | Link to this

HEY change!

I google the first line of your post and it’s all over the place.

Are you taking a salary or are you getting McCain Campaign Points?

DAMN….I like our own local wingnuts better.

By @@

October 2, 2008 11:32 PM | Link to this

I think she did fine Jim. She didn’t disappoint. I was afraid she would.

She’s receiving positive response from some independent groups being polled on T.V.. They were pleasantly surprised. Some were even impressed.

I like Joe. I like Governor Palin. I’m objective on this one.

Neither did any harm to their running mate.

There were a couple of times when Palin used Biden’s own words against Obama — statements he had made while campaigning for president.

If Joe had a strong comeback to those, I missed ‘em.

Given the public’s distrust (bailout) of politician’s in general, folks saw an entrenched Washington insider alongside a fresh new outlook in Governor Palin.

Slight advantage to Palin under today’s circumstances.

By Jim Who?

October 2, 2008 11:32 PM | Link to this

Jim Wooten,

Hence why you work for a newspaper whose readership has plummeted.. You don’t have a clue. Palin kicked a*&

You libs are so full of crap its unbelievable… Biden stumbled at every turn..

Hey Jim, McDonald’s is hiring. That is where you will be working when AJC goes under..

Amazing…

By Tom

October 2, 2008 11:32 PM | Link to this

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I’m not impressed with her outfit. I think she should have gone with a little more of a sparkly gown and lower cut.

She promounced Akmagengawhatever’s name right. Yeah whatever. We’re gonna nuke him before the election as an October Surprise.

We don’t give a rat’s @ss about Darfur. You can’t even see it from Alaska.

I wish she had said, “put the wood to it”. Biden would have flipped out.

Biden was p!ssed ‘cause she stole the “change” line!

Vote Palin and stop the inbreeding among our politicians!

.

By Glenn

October 2, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this

Palin is truly the national hick - “Joe Sixpack.” She’s not DUMB, but is very STUPID. In the cases of Bushdrunk and non-hero McShame, both are dumb AND stupid. Everything in their backgrounds itemize that fact of life.

By Kurt

October 2, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this

Fine, she has short-term memory and can spout verbiage to fill the allotted time. Beauty queens learn early the importance of the Q&A section. It is sad evidence of the decline of our democracy that the American voter will by-and-large accept evidence of short term memory as qualification for high office. The fact is her mind is being shaped, carved and trained by the same kinds of ‘presentation experts’ that usually go to work on ‘Idol’ contestants.

Sarah Palin has said yes to the ultimate American Idol challenge: Can a nominally talented, average Jo be trained to hold the pose long enough to fool the public into believing she deserves to make it to the finals.

Sarah Palin’s candidacy is an affront to every self-respecting voter and to those (like Joe Biden) who have - however imperfectly - given their lives in sincere and noble service to our country.

In choosing her as his VP pick, John McCain has done the opposite of what he claims as his political signature: he has valued his political survival over the good of the nation. No amount of populist posturing on her part can cover the fact that she is absolutely out of her depth.

By getalife

October 2, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this

Come on Jim.

She finally learned McCain’s talking points.

She did well.

Joe had the debate of his lifetime.

He’s ready, she’s another McCain gamble and gimmick.

By Eric

October 2, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this

If you looked at this debate and can honestly say that Gov. Palin did good, then you truly can say that the bar was set lower than a fifth grader. She was more prepared for this debate than I am running for king of Mardi Gras. The conservatives can spin this as much as they like but the fact of the matter is that she is the worst VP nomination in the history of the Presidential race. In five to ten years, she may be up to speed, but as for now….. Hell No!!

By GA4OBAMA

October 2, 2008 11:35 PM | Link to this

palin at least said something after she was asked a question and not “i’ll have to get back to ya.”. she did exactly what i thought she would do. she had her canned answers and repeated rhetoric. if she didn’t have a good answer then it always went back to energy. she didn’t cover for her running mate, mccain. biden constantly compared mccain to bush and she had no response. she doesn’t know mccain’s voting record in the senate. biden knows his voting record as well as obama’s.

OBAMA/BIDEN ‘08

YES WE CAN!

By Mat

October 2, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this

How Commendable of her to have her family there and that includes the baby. I think she did exceptionally well debating Bidden, who has be in Washington thirty plus years. I give her an A+

By Joe Schmoe

October 2, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this

LOL! Dick Morris just said Biden looked/acted like he was on downers. Gotta love it! Go Sarah Go!

By boots

October 2, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this

Any wonder that the AJC is shrinking as a force in GA journalism and an influencer of Georgia homes? How could the majority of your poll think Palin lost? She was AMAZING and clearly did a better job. The national polls and focus groups are already in and show Palin was incredible. Words like, “Unbelievable win for Sarah Palin” are being said by objective ex-Clinton aides, and this paper is calling it a Biden victory or a draw? And the editorials are being posted DURING the debate? Get real!

By scottnjaxbeach

October 2, 2008 11:42 PM | Link to this

Jim?????

Did you and I watch the same debate? I thought she was articulate and spoke well. Clearly, she did better than any of the mainstream media expected. Even Ms Couric had to be amazed at her dominance this evening.

The depths this paper has sunk to really has saddned me over the years!

By courtney

October 2, 2008 11:43 PM | Link to this

Again, she is a complete IDIOT. People are trying hard to convince themselves that she is good for this country but she is not. She did not answer most of the questions. All she came with was rhetoric and story telling which is what the Republican Party has been about for the last 8 years. She is a joke. They quote “lowered” expectations so she could have read the back of a cereal box and everyone would be saying, she is a breath of fresh air. she is a slap in the face to intelligent Republican women!!!

By Maryanne

October 2, 2008 11:48 PM | Link to this

Palin was in clearly over her head. Especially in the discussions regarding foreign policy. She made a comment about ‘the Castro brothers’ being a threat to the US, but they haven’t been a ‘threat’ to us for over 40 years. Also in the discussions regarding Israel, she seems to forget tha Hezbollah is a terrorist organisation and was talking double-speak when she says we “will not talk to our enemies”—-yet, she is willing to talk to terrorists. Unacceptable. Advantage (and my vote): Obama-Biden ticket.

By Maryanne

October 2, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this

Palin was in clearly over her head. Especially in the discussions regarding foreign policy. She made a comment about ‘the Castro brothers’ being a threat to the US, but they haven’t been a ‘threat’ to us for over 40 years. Also in the discussions regarding Israel, she seems to forget tha Hezbollah is a terrorist organisation and was talking double-speak when she says we “will not talk to our enemies”—-yet, she is willing to talk to terrorists. Unacceptable. Advantage (and my vote): Obama-Biden ticket.

By Maryanne

October 2, 2008 11:50 PM | Link to this

Palin was in clearly over her head. Especially in the discussions regarding foreign policy. She made a comment about ‘the Castro brothers’ being a threat to the US, but they haven’t been a ‘threat’ to us for over 40 years. Also in the discussions regarding Israel, she seems to forget tha Hezbollah is a terrorist organisation and was talking double-speak when she says we “will not talk to our enemies”—-yet, she is willing to talk to terrorists. Unacceptable. Advantage (and my vote): Obama-Biden ticket.

By M

October 2, 2008 11:50 PM | Link to this

Wake up folks. Biden is the oldest political retread around. i’ll pass. Palin wins in my book.

By Eric

October 2, 2008 11:50 PM | Link to this

@ boots & scottnjaxbeach:

Are you on drugs are clearly a stupid? Just a question you should ask yourself!

By Eric

October 2, 2008 11:50 PM | Link to this

@ boots & scottnjaxbeach:

Are you on drugs are clearly stupid? Just a question you should ask yourself!

By Jim Who?

October 2, 2008 11:51 PM | Link to this

courtney

Get a clue girlfriend. Idiot, really. And what capacity did you serve? Mayor? Governor??

Go back to Macy’s and check the price tags.. You are a disgrace to women…

By getalife

October 2, 2008 11:52 PM | Link to this

To be honest

Congrats Jim.

There is a first time for everything.

It will be good for the country to have Joe as VP.

By TMF

October 2, 2008 11:52 PM | Link to this

…..and another thing, why does Palin continue to throw her family into discussions? Does she think that she is the only person in America with a family?? I was so glad that Biden shared his family tragedy!!! Maybe now people will stop making a big deal about her raising her five kids with her husband considering that Biden, who was left a widower, had to raise his remaining children, after one died, as a single father!!!

By Independent Voter

October 2, 2008 11:53 PM | Link to this

Ok, I’m going to be really honest here.

McCain plucked an obscure politician from a very rural state, who is likeable but just is not prepared for the jump from local and rural state politics to the national stage. She was not going to be able to go toe-to-toe with a professional politician who has honed his skllls on the national stage in DC for many years.

It wasn’t a fair situation, and honestly - McCain did Sarah Barracuda no favors by asking her to shield him from the wingnuts of his party, playing to his base. If he was truly the maverick he claims to be, he would have made a better choice - Lieberman would have been more suitable than Gov. Palin.

By apackof2

October 2, 2008 11:55 PM | Link to this

Governor Palin not only managed to bring the debate back time and again to one of her greatest strengths, Energy Policy but a very personable Governor Palin also used Joe Biden’s own words questioning the readiness of Barack Obama made before Biden joined the Obama ticket. Palin ruffled Biden’s feathers and put him on the defensive a great deal of the night.

Palin didn’t just talk about Main St. she WAS Main St. Decision? Palin won by a landslide

By tiff

October 2, 2008 11:56 PM | Link to this

Wooten, I am a democrat have been all of my 42 years. I was hoping that people could see in this debate what an airhead Palin is. But you know she surprised me she did better than I thought she would. But the bar was so low, that isn’t saying much. But this shows what a good debate coach can do for you. You can send the average American with a little bit of education to debate camp and they would do just as well. Would I want the average American in the white house “NO”. Even though she did better than I thought she would, I knew she could never out score Biden on the issues and the concern for this country. I also agree with “RUEDEE” at 11:07pm when you are just saying what someone tells you to say and not thinking for yourself, Americans can feel and sense it. And thats exactly what the American people are mad as heck about, politicians being dishonest and disengenuous with us. Biden was more honest, for instance when Gwen asked the question about the economy being as bad as it is, and the deficit being what it is, what they would change in their spending. Most Americans know something is going to have to give, so when Palin said nothing, any one with a clue knows she was lying. Biden was honest and told of some of the programs he and Obama may have to cut. He knows thats not the popular thing to say, but it was the most truthful. Being truthful holds water with the American people. “VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN 08.

By courtney

October 2, 2008 11:58 PM | Link to this

Jim Who?

You need to get a clue. Again, she is an IDIOT. I have right to my own opinion. Apparently, she speaks as if she has never been a Governor. Go back to your trailor park!!! You are a disgrace to the KKK!!

By Jim Who?

October 3, 2008 12:02 AM | Link to this

courtney

Might want to go back to school. Trailer is not spelled “trailor”

Proof positive of what an IDIOT you are!!!

By Andrew

October 3, 2008 12:03 AM | Link to this

The only people who think Palin won this debate are clearly too inept to see the light. At least Wooten is enlightened enough to see.

At the end of the day y’all really just want another Bubba candidate you can have a beer with. Really setting the standard high there. You get the government you vote for.

By Peter

October 3, 2008 12:03 AM | Link to this

Wow the Lemmings are drinking the cool aid tonight……

Yes Palin did ok, and had a pretty smile, but Please when asking a direct question, her wishy washy answers were not close to the reality at the moment.

She is a Congress person in the making, and I hope she does well where ever she lands………

But…… it certainly IS NOT THE White House this year !

McLost and Hockey Mom, Moose Hunter next time around !

By tiff

October 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Link to this

WW5 @ 11:30 wanna make a bet on those poll numbers. My son needs more money in his Disney Cruise fund. Hopely it won’t be as expensive as the last one.

By Jonathan

October 3, 2008 12:06 AM | Link to this

Jim,

Are you serious? I can’t believe you decided what team had the best night before the debate was even over.

And people wonder why the AJC continues to lose subscribers?

By Billy

October 3, 2008 12:07 AM | Link to this

Did you fall asleep during the debate? How could you conclude that Palin lost? Did she do bad in recent interviews, yes. Did she lose tonight, NO! Call it like it is.

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

October 3, 2008 12:09 AM | Link to this

Did you and I watch the same debate? I thought she was articulate and spoke well.

Did you finish third grade?

By Jim Who?

October 3, 2008 12:10 AM | Link to this

Peter and Andrew

Let’s see… Biden has been in Congress for 35+ years and has done NOTHING TO HELP THIS COUNTRY!!

Palin actually has worked for a living… You guys really don’t have a clue do you?

Time to go to bed.. I have to work tomorrow to support your lazy butts..

By CrazyPeeps

October 3, 2008 12:10 AM | Link to this

After 35 year of Washington D.C. air, I would hope Joe Biden would have debate skills and command of dem favorable factoids… on those points he “performed” well. Biden like Obama is a very good showman and if given the opportunity will play “slight of hand” with our country’s future.

Sarah Palin does not have the smoke and mirror skill set to shine on the American people. Nor does she desire that skillset.

Amreicans regardless of race or gender, who are truly looking for Washington to be shaken up and reformed, will vote McCain-Palin in November 2008.

They realize the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac debacle impact on this country. They know it was Clinton legislation that made Fannie and Freddie expansion possible.

Most Americans are also not blind to the mismanagement of these institutions by very senior advisors to Barrack Obama’s campaign that reaped millions while screwing Americans everywhere. Who by the way were Clinton appointee’s not Bush’s.

If that is change? I’ll be voted in as the next President.

BTW- How quick we are to forget that there has not been anther attack on Amreican soil since 9/11. The Dems will try to swing this to an advantage by giving sound bytes like ” Al Qaeda is stronger now than ever” “They are planning new attacks”.

I don’t disagree, and most Repulicans wouldn’t. The fact remains We are safe in America, because President Bush sacrificed his Presedential legacy for our safety. How quickly liberal Democrats will dismiss this.

How inferior a spotlight seeking rookie like Obama looks when standing next to a President that knows what its like to commit to a course of action that was the right thing then, as it is now no matter how unpopular the war has been made by the liberal media.

Barrack Obama for all his slickness does not have the credibility with the world, the experience nor the will to create meaningful change. How he got elected to state office/ the U.S. Senate and his track record speaks for itself.

Never mind looking at who his personal friends are…Byers, Rev. Wright plus other haters and criminals……..

Sorry all you folkes enamored with the notion of an Obama Presidency…. McCain - Palin regardless of debate performances is the ticket for “responsible & informed Americans”.

By nobama

October 3, 2008 12:12 AM | Link to this

Good job courtney. Well spoken. BTW, someone who can’t spell trailer park is an idiot. Go out to your neighborhood entrance and look at the sign. Throwing the race card attack is a sign of desperation. I guess Palin did pretty well tonight since the socialist crowd is going over the top with the attacks again.

By Terry

October 3, 2008 12:15 AM | Link to this

Republicans for Obama! Biden spoke the truth. Palin said wahe she was told to say.

By courtney

October 3, 2008 12:15 AM | Link to this

Jim Who?

Thanks for the correction. At least I can say that you must have finished 2nd grade!!!! Poor white trash at it’s BEST!!!

By JJ

October 3, 2008 12:15 AM | Link to this

McCain’s strategy: Keep saying “Obama doesn’t understand” until it sticks.

Palin’s strategy: Keep saying “we’re mavericks” until it sticks.

Obama’s and Biden’s strategy: Focus on policies that benefit everyday Americans.

By Tom Zardoz

October 3, 2008 12:17 AM | Link to this

I knew Palin was marginally educated and dishonest as a sleazy preacher, but I didn’t realize she was deaf. Or was it the way the mean moderator asked the questions that prevented her answers from having any relationship to what was asked?

Would I see her in a cheap revival of Fargo? You betcha! Vote for her? Get serious…

By Juan

October 3, 2008 12:18 AM | Link to this

Time to go to bed.. I have to work tomorrow to support your lazy butts..

Good point Jim Who?

We can’t all be on welfare.

By Alan Srout

October 3, 2008 12:18 AM | Link to this

Did we watch the same debate? Governor Sarah Palin put Senator Joe Biden on the mat! It wasn’t even close! Looks like Sarah will be our first female president, our own Margaret Thatcher! She can relate to the common man and woman because she IS one of us. Poor Tina Fey…

By Terry

October 3, 2008 12:19 AM | Link to this

Republicans for Obama! Biden spoke the truth. Palin said wahe she was told to say.

By Alan Srout

October 3, 2008 12:22 AM | Link to this

Did we watch the same debate? Governor Sarah Palin put Senator Joe Biden on the mat! It wasn’t even close! Looks like Sarah will be our first female president, our own Margaret Thatcher! She can relate to the common man and woman because she IS one of us. Poor Tina Fey…

By Bemused Humanist

October 3, 2008 12:22 AM | Link to this

Anyone who listened carefully to the responses know that Biden showed he is far more qualified to be President than Palin, in case (God forbid) the VP is called on to assume that role.

It is over. Demographically, there is no way McCain/Palin gets to 270 Electoral Votes. Check Nate Silver’s site, or Sam Wang’s, at Princeton.

The good news locally is the size of the minority turnout in early voting, for many reasons. Key among them is that Georgia’s electoral future is sure to see retribution against voter suppression experts — especially Karen Handel.

By Jim Who?

October 3, 2008 12:23 AM | Link to this

courtney

You’re such a leftist. Blame me for spelling “trailor” wrong. Typical of you..

Go out and spend a bunch on your Federal Debit Card tomorrow. Hopefully McCain - Palin will take that welfare program away from you..

JJ Were you watching the same debate?? Biden has been sitting on his a*& for 35 years and you trust him to get us out of this mess?? You may want to look up the CDA or CRA. Just a little history on why we are in this mess.. Courtney, they do have a picture version so you will understand what Biden voted for..

By osama bin biden

October 3, 2008 12:24 AM | Link to this

Obama’s and Biden’s strategy: Focus on policies that benefit everyday Americans.

or could it be:

Mislead America and then raise taxes and make us all more dependent on government.

How can 95% of Americans get a tax break if 40% don’t pay taxes? Is that Manifesto Math?

By Chris in Marietta

October 3, 2008 12:24 AM | Link to this

Another Republican, who voted for Bush in 2000 & 2004, voting for Obama/Biden.

McCain was wrong about Iraq, doesn’t understand the economy, and he’s too damn old. Palin does not strengthen the ticket and is not prepared to be Vice President.

By GOP More Funny

October 3, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this

Wow, Piglin supporters are delusional and funny. Well, if you like stupid liars, she’s the kind of thing you like.

By jethro

October 3, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this

If Palin is out of her league then where the heck is Obama? From a British ambassador. Even world leaders can see through this scammer.

ir Nigel Sheinwald, Britain’s ambassador in Washington, wrote a seven-page letter to the British prime minister warning him about Barack Obama.

The contents of the letter were leaked to the British press late Wednesday, and they offered a worrisome view about the man who might be the next president.

Reportedly written just before Obama’s summer visit to Britain, the ambassador made clear Obama was a deeply flawed man whose political agenda may not be in sync with British interests.

Among Sheinwald’s observations, he notes:

Obama’s Senate voting record as “decidedly liberal,” and claims Obama left little mark on legislation where “the main impression is of someone who was finding his feet, and then got diverted by his presidential ambitions.” That charges of elitism or being aloof “are not entirely unfair” and may be seized upon by John McCain’s campaign. The Democrat can be “tough and competitive,” which the ambassador chalked up to Obama’s “Chicago school” of politics. Though he praised Obama’s oratory, he said Obama’s “energy levels do dip and he can be uninspiring, e.g. in debates.” Iran could be a sticking point because of “the articulation between (a) (Obama’s) desire for unconditional dialogue with Iran and (b) our and the (U.N. Security Council’s) requirement of prior suspension of enrichment before the nuclear negotiations proper can begin.” Obama “can seem to sit on the fence, assiduously balancing pros and cons,” and “does betray a highly educated and upper middle-class mind-set.” Obama “may be aloof, insensitive,” and he points to the fact that Obama “can talk too dispassionately for a national campaign about issues which touch people personally, e.g. his notorious San Francisco comments (in April) about small-town Pennsylvanians ‘clinging’ to guns and religion.”

Sheinwald also offered mixed praise for Obama, calling his speeches “elegant” and “mesmerizing.”

He is “highly intelligent” and has “star quality,” he added.

Nevertheless, his “policies are still evolving” and that if elected he will “have less of a track record than any recent president,” Sheinwald concluded.

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

October 3, 2008 12:28 AM | Link to this

I don’t disagree, and most Repulicans wouldn’t. The fact remains We are safe in America, because President Bush sacrificed his Presedential legacy for our safety. How quickly liberal Democrats will dismiss this.

CrazyPeeps, i dismiss it now as total garbage! Safe from what? Our Constitution has been eviscerated, our treasure has been stolen, our citizens have been killed in a bogus war for oil, our jobs have been shipped to foreign shores, the oil companies have abused and raped us and Wall Street, free from any oversight, has gone bust and the American taxpayer, having never been kissed, is on the business end of an horrific gang bang. so, what is it George W. Hitler has kept us safe from? Just because we’re still breathing and walking around does not constitute safety. George W. Hitler has done something no terrorist group ever could! He’s overseen our descent into Nazi type torturing of prisoners. He’s lowered our reputation from the greatest country on Earth to the most despised. Osama bin Laden could never have done that!

By Tom

October 3, 2008 12:29 AM | Link to this

I am a Republican and I have to say that Palin was not a good pick for this ticket. I really wish that McCain would have used better judgement. This is not American Idol people!!!! This is serious and I just do not believe that she has the skills to take over if something happens to McCain.

By skippy

October 3, 2008 12:29 AM | Link to this

Joe Biden was factually wrong at least 10 times. Let me say that again..Joe Biden WAS FACTUALLY WRONG at least 10 times even in his own eloquent style..I guess that’s ok for you libs…Palin ate his lunch in all areas.. This is our chance to put a real person, like us, in D.C….I just hope we get to see that…

By demsforPalin2016

October 3, 2008 12:32 AM | Link to this

Terry,

You only have to hit submit once. Try to stick with that that in the voting booth too (unless of course you’re with ACORN.)

Yo Alan,

Poor Tina Fey? Tina Fey can do her impression for the next eight years. She can’t make it in the movies, so she should be happy some Nov. 5th!

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

October 3, 2008 12:34 AM | Link to this

President Skippy, that does have a ring to it!

By courtney

October 3, 2008 12:35 AM | Link to this

Jim Who,

I did not blame you. I thanked you. By the way, I am not on welfare. I have a job and pay taxes just like you do. We just have different views. All Black People are not lazy. We do contribute to society.

By Stupid Jethro

October 3, 2008 12:37 AM | Link to this

That your next desperate tactic, Jethro boy, as the McSame/Piglin ticket fades into the sunset? The British ambassador going to save your filthy party now?

John McCain - Change with Depends On!

By BS Aplenty

October 3, 2008 12:41 AM | Link to this

Top Ten Things To Expect during an Obama Administration

10.Cynthia Tucker discovers there’s life after racism but not much to write about

9.The National Anthem is changed to “Can’t Touch This (Country)” by M.C. Hammer

8.The Rev. Jeremiah Wright finally converts to Christianity

7.The Irish government mistakenly claims “President O’bama” as a native son and commends him for strides made since his ‘Potato Famine’ emigration

6.William Ayers is appointed Secretary of Defense and hailed by media as an “experienced hand dealing with terrorist groups”

5.Oprah moves to Washington, D.C. but claims she’s only there to redevelop the city - with her own money

4.Excessive faculty celebration leaves Tuscaloosa with a newly named “University of AlO’bama”

3.Chris Matthews “outs” himself and confesses to serious “leg tingling” for most of adult life

2.Jay Bookman finally gets an invite to a Presidential Inaugural Ball - but must clear tables afterward

And the number one thing you can expect during an Obama presidency

1.Alaska is put up for sale

McCain/Palin ’08 – The Right Kind of Change

By courtney

October 3, 2008 12:41 AM | Link to this

Jim Who?

I did not blame you. I thanked you. By the way, I am not on welfare. I have a job-in healthcare and pay taxes just like you do. All black people are not lazy. Some of us do contribute to society.

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

October 3, 2008 12:52 AM | Link to this

Poor Tina Fey? Tina Fey can do her impression for the next eight years. She can’t make it in the movies, so she should be happy some Nov. 5th!

i think she’ll be happy this Nov. 5th!

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

October 3, 2008 1:03 AM | Link to this

McCain/Palin ’08 – The Right Kind of Change

it’s the right kind if you like George W. Hitler. That would be no change and more of the same!

By Jack

October 3, 2008 1:04 AM | Link to this

We won’t be fooled again!!! OBAMA 08 baby

By Jim Who?

October 3, 2008 1:07 AM | Link to this

courtney Funny, but I don’t ever remember stating you were black?

By Scott

October 3, 2008 1:09 AM | Link to this

Funny how the CNN poll and the CBS polls have Biden winning and the Fox poll which had far more people responding have Palin winning it 86% to 14%. It just goes to show that most of the Republican voters watch FOX news and most of the liberals are spread out over the other networks. If there was one news channel and one poll…. Palin wins the debate in the opinion poll.

By Jim Who?

October 3, 2008 1:14 AM | Link to this

Scott

Also interesting the the AJC poll does not go over 50% for Palin, although it’s been well over 60% for Biden…

And people say that the media is not biased…

By Robert

October 3, 2008 1:26 AM | Link to this

What a bunch of MAROONS!!!!!

By Citizen of the World

October 3, 2008 1:32 AM | Link to this

Sarah “Poser” Palin would respond extemporaneously, sometimes genuinely, albeit vapidly, at the beginning of her turn in each exchange, and then it would be like something snapped and all of a sudden, there she was, RoboPalin, spouting off her memorized talking points. It was frightening to watch.

And one thing I “also” noticed all night was how Palin’s response was always “we gotta do this, we gotta do that, we gotta do the other,” while Biden was saying “we’re going to do this, we’re going to do that, we’re going to do the other.” He was much more specific and substantive, as was Obama last Friday. I appreciate that in a political debate. I appreciate that in a leader.