Thinking Right

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 16, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

McCAIN/PALIN 08

Tax cuts for 5%

Depression for 95%

It’s the REPUBLICAN economy, stupid!

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I would commend the entire Paglia essay at Salon.com to our leftist friends, noting that Paglia affirms she is voting for Obama nevertheless. Camille is my favorite feminist writer, and I sent the article to my friends last week.

Taranto gave us a few incisive arguments yesterday:

(1) On Friday, we noted that ABC News had engaged in some sleight-of-hand to conceal Charlie Gibson’s misrepresentation of a Sarah Palin quote. On Saturday Jacques Steinberg, a reporter for the New York Times, noted it too: The questions some respondents took issue with included Mr. Gibson’s reference to a recent church speech, in which he quoted Ms. Palin as saying, “Our national leaders are sending U.S. soldiers on a task that is from God.” In an excerpt of the speech on YouTube—which ABC spliced into the interview when it was shown—Ms. Palin had prefaced that comment by appearing to say she was praying that America’s mission in Iraq represented God’s will.

But Palin’s meaning escaped the Times editorial page, which repeated the falsehood that her prayer was an assertion:

“Her answers about why she had told her church that President Bush’s failed policy in Iraq was “God’s plan” did nothing to dispel our concerns about her confusion between faith and policy. Her claim that she was quoting a completely unrelated comment by Lincoln was absurd.”

By the way, an alert reader spotted this exchange from Barack Obama’s January interview with Beliefnet.com:

Q: Is it difficult in the rough and tumble of campaign politics to stick to that, to live out your faith? And can you talk about whether you have a favorite prayer or what you pray about?

Obama: The prayer that I tell myself every night is a fairly simple one: I ask in the name of Jesus Christ that my sins are forgiven, that my family is protected and that I am an instrument of God’s will. I’m constantly trying to align myself to what I think he calls on me to do. And sometimes you hear it strongly and sometimes that voice is more muted.

Obama, like Palin, prays that he is on God’s side. Palin, unlike Obama, does not (so far as we know) claim to hear the voice of God. Why is she the one who gets painted as a religious nut?

(2) Obama supporter Mickey Kaus declares, “The curret lib-blog-MSM-campaign tack—getting outraged by McCain’s ‘lies’—is a total loser strategy.” It’s a long post, well worth reading in full, but here are the highlights:

When Dems get outraged at unfairness they look weak. How can they stand up to Putin if they start whining when confronted with Steve Schmidt? …

Lecturing the public on what’s “true” and what’s a “lie” (when the truth isn’t 100% clear) plays into some of the worst stereotypes about liberals—that they are preachy know-it-alls hiding their political motives behind a veneer of objectivity and respectability… .

Inevitably the people being outraged on Obama’s behalf will phrase their arguments in ways well-designed to appeal to their friends—and turn off the unconverted. (“This is just what they did to John Kerry and Michael Dukakis!” As if the public yearns for the lost Kerry and Dukakis Presidencies… .)

(3) This “strategy” seems so ill-conceived that we have to wonder if it’s a strategy at all. Commentary’s Jennifer Rubin—not an Obama supporter, as far as we can tell—argues that it is. But its objective, Rubin believes, is something other than victory:

They are preparing their excuses for defeat. No matter how foolhardy the Democratic primary voters in selecting a high risk candidate, no matter how bizarre the policy choices of that candidate, no matter how outlandishly wrong the conventional press wisdom and no matter how inept the campaign operation there is a cure-all excuse: McCain lied, our hopes died.

I am not saying Barack Obama is going to lose; I am saying the Obama Gang of Three (i.e. the mind-melded bloggers/MSM/campaign operation) now thinks that is a distinct possibility. So how to explain how they all messed up? When in doubt, revive the Lee Atwater/Karl Rove/Gore v. Bush/Swiftboat rationale which is “It is never our fault.”

Can it really be true that the Democrats and the media are concentrating on assigning blame for a defeat that hasn’t even happened yet?

Finally, the Quote of the Day: “If we’re going to ask questions about, you know, who has been promulgating negative ads that are completely unrelated to the issues at hand, I think I win that contest pretty handily.” Obama, on Good Morning, America, September 15, 2008.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 16, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

The left is in a quandary over Oblahma:

Obama’s teleprompter hits the trail- But the Illinois senator used a teleprompter at both his Colorado events Monday — making for a particularly peculiar scene in Pueblo, where the prompter was set up in the middle of what is normally a rodeo ring.

And he still blew it:

Obama’s initial attempt to localize his speech by referring to the Ute Indians, brought some nervous groans from the crowd when he mispronounced “Ute.” But that gaffe was overlooked after his speech gathered steam.

What a dimwit.

By Bo Chambliss

September 16, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

Georgia’s senior senator is still dogged for his support of a controversial immigration bill that would have opened the door to citizenship for millions of illegal aliens. And who doesn’t remember him posing for photos with liberal icon Ted Kennedy to show his support for the bill? Of course, he later backed away from the measure, but the damage was done. His credibility never would be the same among the anti-immigration crowd.

Then there’s Chambliss’ son, who has been a lobbyist for the commodities trading industry at a time when Dad happened to be chairman or ranking member of the Senate Agriculture Committee - the committee with jurisdiction over commodities trading.

Chambliss is one of the few statewide elected officials in America who still is willingly joined at the hip to President Bush. Even in Georgia, Bush now has hit bottom in his approval rating.

Despite his unfailingly loyal service to the Bush administration, Chambliss has little bacon to show for his efforts. Georgia lost multiple military installations during the last round of base closings, which occurred on his watch. We appear likely to fail in efforts to land several major federal projects, including the national biodefense facility the University of Georgia has pursued doggedly

By the tooth will set you free

September 16, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

thanks mr. wooten, for the incredible insight to ms. palin’s qualifications and records…. opps, sorry, never mind you did mention a one. hmm. i wonder why? perhaps it is because she is wildly unqualified.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 16, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this

After months of confidently riding the wave of change, Democrats are like a surfer who looks over his shoulder to see the white crests of a tsunami gaining on him.

Recent polls show the leadership hurt itself already this summer by not being more responsive to middle-class voters squeezed by high oil and gas prices. And if Wall Street investment bankers failed to show due diligence, what about a Congress that has all but abandoned its budget process this year and whose House tax-writing chairman didn’t pay his taxes?

Hey, but at least they subpoenaed Karl Rove right?

You know, the real important things?

By Ilene

September 16, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Hi, I’m in quandry. Anyone with common sense and a brain would realize that the Republicans have made a mess of this country and if you want to get out of the mess, you vote the opposite party. You don’t vote in to the highest office of the land someone who’s biggest claim to fame is being a POW — that is not an instant qualification. And you certainly don’t entertain the idea of having a VP who wanted to ban books, opposes reproductive rights, believes in abstinance as the best education (sure got her far) and thinks she can become a foreign policy expert overnight because she can see Russia from her state! This is illogical. Anyone who has fallen for this is a jerk and deserves what they’ll get should this party get in.

So agin, I repeat, there is no quandry on my Democratic brain.

By Tray

September 16, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

The reason we’re in this mess is because there were poor complaining they couldn’t find affordable housing, so the banks started giving loans to them even though they couldn’t afford it (DEMS TOLD THEM TO). Then, when it was time to pay the bill, instead of getting off their lazy democratic butts and working 2 jobs to make a living as i have done many times, they decided to bail out, AND THAT IS WHY THE ECONOMY IS WHAT IT IS TODAY!

Palin’s got the Dems running scared because she actually cares for the people (majority-middle classs, not minority-poor class), it’s not a facade like Obama’s.

And some of these morons actually think Obama will help by raising taxes on the rich, but spending more on the poor than what he’s getting from the rich!! How does that math add up?? DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL??

Obama is approving earmarks for spending that have nothing to do with ‘quality of life’ or ‘community organizing’. He’s approved over 100 projects in the BILLIONS!! And you think this guy, who can’t even speak unless it’s written for him, is too coward to challenge MCCain to town halls (cuz he’ll not only lose, but embarrass the hell out of himself), and thinks he’s THE MESSIAH and WORLD UNITER can take the US out of debt?? so wrong…so wrong…

By Ilene

September 16, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Hi, I’m not in a quandry. Anyone with common sense and a brain would realize that the Republicans have made a mess of this country and if you want to get out of the mess, you vote the opposite party. You don’t vote in to the highest office of the land someone who’s biggest claim to fame is being a POW — that is not an instant qualification. And you certainly don’t entertain the idea of having a VP who wanted to ban books, opposes reproductive rights, believes in abstinance as the best education (sure got her far) and thinks she can become a foreign policy expert overnight because she can see Russia from her state! This is illogical. Anyone who has fallen for this is a jerk and deserves what they’ll get should this party get in.

So agin, I repeat, there is no quandry on my Democratic brain.

By Chuck

September 16, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

GOP: inexperienced Vice President Dems: inexperienced President

Take your pick.

By Road Scholar

September 16, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

Ragnar: You missed the point that Obama was making in respect to God. He hope God influenzed his decisions and protected his family. Not, as Palin said, whatever she did was God’s will. We have the ability to make decisions. He hopes he is influenzed, she spouts it is God’s decision.

As for stating the truth, Repubs have never let that get in the way of distoting what one says, or the real intent of legislation. Palin will self ditruct once the “cone of silence” is removed and she can be accessed by the American people. Why not address head on Troopergate; isn’t she a maverick? addresses problems head on? What crap!

Also, since McCain has to read a speech from a paper script over and over (and he still bungles the whole speech), it also appears that they have no original thoughts concerning using Change and Enough is enough as thei mantras. Or are they just mocking Obama- like Obama has been accused of mocking St Palin.

By Churchill

September 16, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

Whose Elitism Problem Now?

In democracies, all political factions run against an elite. Since the New Deal, Democrats have cast themselves against the financial and business elite. Since the 1960s, Republicans have thrashed the cultural and intellectual elite.

Over the weekend, the moneyed class became a richer target. The foolishness of our financial geniuses now threatens to bring economic sorrow to Main Street. Franklin Roosevelt’s 1936 attack on “the privileged princes of these new economic dynasties” never sounded so up to date.

Americans don’t mind wealthy and even rapacious capitalists, as long as they deliver the goods to everyone else. But when the big boys drag everyone else down, Americans rise up in righteous anger. The New Deal political alignment endured for decades because the financial elites were so profoundly discredited by the Great Depression. The New Deal coalition dissolved only when prosperity began to seem durable and only after the GOP discovered the joys of baiting Hollywood, the media and the academy.

There is always something slightly phony about anti-elitist politics. Plenty of investment bankers are Democrats, and Republican politicians who claim to speak for devoutly religious cultural conservatives are usually far removed from the world (and the values) of those whose votes they court and whose resentments they stoke.

But the captains of John McCain’s campaign figured they might wring one more election victory out of the culture war. They ridiculed Barack Obama as the celebrity candidate loved by Europeans — the right always consigns Europe to the elitist camp — and harped on his unfortunate comments, ripped out of context, about “bitter” voters who “cling to guns or religion.”

For good measure, McCain chose Sarah Palin as his running mate. A religious and proudly gun-toting mom, Palin has turned expertise itself into a badge of elitism, proclaiming pleasure in her lack of a “big, fat résumé” that “shows decades and decades in that Washington establishment.”

But anti-Washington politics is itself rooted in the interests of the financial elite. When the private economy goes haywire, it is always the federal government that has to step in. When those whom Teddy Roosevelt called “malefactors of great wealth” get out of hand, Washington is the only town with the authority to hold their power in check.

Therefore, the party of the business elite has always pursued its interests behind slogans proclaiming a war on Washington and its “bureaucrats” — and never mind that a little more regulation might have prevented the subprime-mortgage-buying, short-term-profit-maximizing Wall Streeters from wrecking the economy.

All of a sudden, the culture war seems entirely beside the point, an unaffordable luxury in a time of economic turmoil. What politicians actually believe about the economy, what fixes they propose, whether they side with the wealthy few or the hurting many — these become the stuff of elections, the reasons behind people’s votes.

And nothing more exposes the hypocrisy of financial elites riding the coattails of those who revere small-town religious values than a downturn that highlights the vast gulf in power between the two key components of the conservative coalition. Even cultural conservatives will start to notice that McCain’s tax policies are geared toward the wealthy investing class and Obama’s toward the paycheck crowd. Even the most ardent friends of business have begun to argue that a re-engagement with sensible regulation is essential to restoring capitalism’s health.

For some time, McCain’s strategists figured they could deflect attention from the big issues by turning Palin into a country-and-western celebrity and launching so many ill-founded attacks on Obama that the truth would never catch up. The McCain strategists’ approach reflected a low opinion of average voters, and some Obama supporters began worrying that their opinion might be right.

But those so-called average voters understand the difference between low- and high-stakes elections. They develop a reasonably good sense of who is telling the truth and who is not. And though it sometimes takes a while — and a shock like this week’s economic news — these voters almost always turn on politicians who manipulate cultural symbols as a way to escape the consequences of their policies.

In 1936, FDR argued that “private enterprise, indeed, became too private. It became privileged enterprise, not free enterprise.” He insisted that “freedom is no half-and-half affair. If the average citizen is guaranteed equal opportunity in the polling place, he must have equal opportunity in the market place.”

The stakes in this year’s election went way up this week. The days of Paris, Britney and the exploitation of divisions around race, gender and religion are over.

By The Snark

September 16, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

If Sen. McCain is elected, it won’t be the “left” in a quandry — it will be the whole country. You may like her and agree with her views, but the woman is no more qualified to assume the Presidency than she is to become CEO of the Bank of America.

By Ilene

September 16, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

Don’t call me a moron, Tray. A moron is someone that would continue to vote in Republicans as President and Vice President knowing how they decimated this country.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this

Now Ilene @ 8:42 and 8:44, you have to make up your mind, are you in a quandry or not? Or does it change from minute to minute?

By Maniac is accurate

September 16, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

So, were you in Nicholls or Broxton? Or, many it was Pridgen or Axson, or Wilsonville? Gen. Coffee state park? My neck of the woods is lovely any time of year.

By SaveOurRepublic

September 16, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

Bo Chambliss @ 8:40 AM - Good points regarding Neocon Saxby “Shameless”. Like fellow Globalist Elite puppet “Juan McAmnasty”, Saxby is all for amnesty & the planned, forthcoming North American Union (NAU/SPP). He’s indeed shown his allegiance to the Internationalist agenda.

Regarding Palin, she’s a gimmick selection being leveraged as a “judas goat” to dupe the GOP base (rightfully disillusioned with “McAmnasty”) into voting for the Republicrud ticket. I like many of her policies (utilizing ANWR, defending the 2nd Amendment), but I think she’ll be “turned” by the Neocon GOP “leadership” if/when elected.

I’d urge all Americans who truly care about our Constitutional Republic’s future to cast a vote for a 3rd party candidate (if on principle alone). I personally am supporting Constitutional Party nominee Chuck Baldwin, whose platform is nearly identical to (true patriot) Ron Paul’s.

http://www.baldwin2008.com

By parentof4

September 16, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

Ok…usually I love to read all the hate that is written on here. But really, Palin’s speech was prepared by one of Bush’s speech writers. These people are paid good money to convey what ever type of message they want to present. The true Palin speaking was when she was interviewd. Or better yet the clips of her on Youtube. It was said that Obama is just a speaker, he can use hollow words and rile up the crowd. Why is it now when Palin used hallow words prepared by someone which riled up the crowd (who were obviously staged to react in such a way) is she spunky and a fighter?

I am not a diehard fan of either camps. But what I do not like is the double standard. The same double standard that the Republicans told Hillary she should stop “whinning” about it, they are now using for Palin. I do not like that McCain has told off-color jokes about women and the degradation of women, yet to be considered a promoter when he finds someone out of Alaska. The same women who weeks before getting the job asked “What does a VP do anyway?” Before being placed here, her numerous interviews show that she thought this was a long shot and it was not on her radar. She was not thinking about how she could change America, her church was promoting how America will run to Alaska to be saved. (That is also on Youtube in their own words.)

What is going to make or break this election…Youtube. All your dirty deads are broadcasted there.

By Ga Values

September 16, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

Here is my CONSERVATIVE colume of the day..Shock it comes from CREATIVE LOAFING Please take the time to listen to the ads by the only Conservative in the U.S. Senate race.

http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshloaf/2008/09/15/allen-buckley-radio-ads-slam-chambliss-on-spending-immigration-everything/

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this

Dear Road @ 8:46, I respectfully argue that you are the one who missed the point. The unedited prayer by Sarah – not the one you saw on the ABC interview, where they clipped the preface – makes it plain Sarah was making the same prayer as Obama, without the part about hearing God talking.

By fearless fosdik

September 16, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this

TRAY…The housing collapse was NOT a result of..”(DEMS TOLD THEM TO).”

It can be attributed to PHIL GRAMM who spearheaded efforts to pass banking reform laws, including the landmark Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999, which served to reduce government regulations in existence since the Great Depression separating banking, insurance and brokerage activities.

Between 1995 and 2000 Gramm, who was the chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, received $1,000,914 in campaign contributions from the Securities & Investment industry!

And, who was one of John McCain’s financial advisors? None other than Phil Gramm!

By misterearl

September 16, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Another Conservative View To Ponder

In the current Weekly Standard, Steven Hayward argues that the nation’s founders wanted uncertified citizens to hold the highest offices in the land. They did not believe in a separate class of professional executives. They wanted rough and rooted people like Palin.

I would have more sympathy for this view if I hadn’t just lived through the last eight years. For if the Bush administration was anything, it was the anti-establishment attitude put into executive practice.

And the problem with this attitude is that, especially in his first term, it made Bush inept at governance. It turns out that governance, the creation and execution of policy, is hard. It requires acquired skills. Most of all, it requires prudence.

What is prudence? It is the ability to grasp the unique pattern of a specific situation. It is the ability to absorb the vast flow of information and still discern the essential current of events — the things that go together and the things that will never go together. It is the ability to engage in complex deliberations and feel which arguments have the most weight.

How is prudence acquired? Through experience. The prudent leader possesses a repertoire of events, through personal involvement or the study of history, and can apply those models to current circumstances to judge what is important and what is not, who can be persuaded and who can’t, what has worked and what hasn’t.

Sarah Palin has many virtues. If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she’d be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness.

The idea that “the people” will take on and destroy “the establishment” is a utopian fantasy that corrupted the left before it corrupted the right. Surely the response to the current crisis of authority is not to throw away standards of experience and prudence, but to select leaders who have those qualities but not the smug condescension that has so marked the reaction to the Palin nomination in the first place.

• David Brooks NYTimes

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Dear Save @ 8:54, if Sarah was not “turned” by the power establishment in the Alaskan republican party – where their power was nearly absolute – what makes you think any mere lobbyist can turn her?

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

Dear Save @ 8:54, if Sarah was not “turned” by the power establishment in the Alaskan republican party – where their power was nearly absolute – what makes you think any mere lobbyist can turn her?

By Ilene

September 16, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

No quandary at all. This is what happens when you don’t get enough sleep and the computer browser screws up. Can’t you tell by what I wrote that there is no indecision on my part whatsoever.

By Grading Greenspan

September 16, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

Grading Greenspan gave a 50/50 chance 4 a recession last January on This Week with George Stephanopolus. Last Sunday, he was asked why the recession didn’t occur.

Greenspan objected that if George Steph. had pressed him, he would have answered that he felt it unlikely a recession would have occurred.

SO: Greenspan’s answer last January was a lenghty diatribe that ended with a coin toss prediction. And he told George S. that he could have kept talking in hindsight and would have been more forceful in his vagueness.

Greenspan did say Sunday that he would be surprised if the current turmoil didn’t have an effect on growth.

He said he wouldn’t bet on the markets too.

But then he contradicted what he said fifty times both ways, so, nobody knows nothing as usual.

I think it’s the intrinsic naive trust that is crumbling here. Banks, and insurance companies, brokerage and mtg. houses falling or being bought out by who knows who?

China must be catching some of these falling ginzu knives. The wallstreet gurus like Kudlow, thinks yesterday was the best thing to come along to the markets sinced sliced bread. (ginzu knives). He suggested we actually rallied yesterday. Kudlow and Booyah. Sounds like a brokerage, dont it? Kudlow & Booyah: toast.

However, because of the American Attention Span, Kudlow and Booyah will still have a career.

Mother nature helps us cope with old age because we cant remember how much pain we’re in or what a mess our lives have become, we kind of drift along unaware but happy.

The American Attention Span helps wallstreet, the white house, and Kudlow.

By Thought for Today

September 16, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Obama trying to get Iraq to not let U. S. troops come home BEFORE the election. He knows troops coming home will help McCain.

The author said media is not reporting this. Obama must think he is already Commander in Chief.

By Glenn

September 16, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

Do you suppose it’s posible to find a Republican who is not a crook? McShame, the phoney war hero (3.8 hours in combat), and now Palin, the queen of the lower middle class hicks, begins to have her ethics revealed and unwrapped. What sorry examples of humanity.

By AJC/DNC Management

September 16, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

Aahhh, yes, the triumph of free speech in the moonbat fever swamps:

Chicago radio station WGN-AM is again coming under attack from the presidential campaign of Sen. Barack Obama for offering airtime to a controversial author.

“The author of the latest anti-Barack hit book is appearing on WGN Radio in the Chicagoland market tonight, and your help is urgently needed to make sure his baseless lies don’t gain credibility,” whined an e-mail sent Monday evening to Obama supporters reads.

Poor little thing.

So brave in thee face of criticism.

By Tray

September 16, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

YOU ARE A MORON if you are voting for a president who has no more experience than i or Palin does! OBAMA IS AS QUALIFIED FOR PRESIDENT AS THE PERSON SITTING NEXT TO YOU!!

McCain may be similar to Bush, but in this difficult time, I’ll take a MAN who knows the roles than an inexperienced boy.

So again, you are a moron! The DEMS all whined about not being able to afford a house because (like i said) they were too lazy to work 2 jobs, since the one they worked wasn’t good enough for them or their family! Then they all were given loans they couldn’t afford for that ‘dream home’, and they can all watch that dream crash in front of them for all i care!

I don’t own a house, i rent. But when i do buy one, it’ll be a cold day in hell before i sit around and let my house foreclose. WORK 2 JOBS PEOPLE!!!

i have a son, a fiancee, rent, bills, car note-ALL THE DEBT YOU HAVE TOO! The difference is, I’m not too proud to work at McDonald’s part time to make ends meet IF I HAVE TO. The difference between a (active) republican, and a (lazy) democrat!

By Peter

September 16, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

HA HA HA Jim………Big quandary……..

Let’s see she is a liar about the Bridge to no where and all the Pork going to her state……..

She is wrong about Global Warming………

She is about slaughtering wild animals such as wolves.

She didn’t teach her slut daughter anything, thus she (the daughter) is a boozer and pregnant……..

She thinks it is OK to spend taxpayer’s money for a $700.00 a night hotel for the little slut.

Jim ever hear of a separation of Church and state…….?

She is an idiot about foreign policy…. “God wanted the Iraq War”……sure Jim !

Her education stinks……..No where U

Her record stinks……..and she is not CAPABLE of being VP never mind President……..

HA HA HA Jim I think the voting will tell the story…

Spin Jim…. Spin hard Jim…..0ps you are dizzy again !

By Lee

September 16, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

The left doesn’t have to destroy Sarah Palin, she will destroy herself. She hasn’t been in a job long enough to accumulate the enemies and exposure that she would as a VP. Someone who fires the government employees and replaces them with friends and relatives won’t do well when exposed, especially if those friends and relatives become venal or turn on her.

As to her presentation, it is simply Bush lite. He, too, came across as scappy and fiesty, and a with new ideas like “compassionate conservative”. But we have seen what is abyssmal lack of knowledge about the world has come to mean, and that being scrappy without support, like he is with Russia’s invasion of Georgia, only leads to the appearance of impotent bluster and bombast, both of which Sarah Palin also excells.

If she can’t meet with newspaper reporters and softies like Charles Gibson without later explanations and retractions and accusations, what in the world is she going to do when she needs to meet and negotiate with the rulers of Iran or China or France?

Over time, her lack of judgement in government will be shown. They say you can use her senior yearbook to find out about the Alaskan state government, since she has given so many of her friends political appointments- wait until she has the federal government as a personal spoils system! We had enough with Bush giving government jobs to unworthy friends in FEMA- just wait until the Alsaskan crew starts coming south to gorge at the trough.

So far, Sarah Palin hasn’t faced real investigation; she hasn’t been examined for her silly mistakes; for her strange alleigances to people who want to pull Alaska out of the union and make it an independent country.

At the present, people who know nothing about her are projecting their wants and needs on to her- she won’t be able to meet all these fantasies. Instead, she will eb shown for what she is- a gifted speaker of other people’s thoughts, a person to pander to the agressive and mob psychology of a crowd, and one who has never really had to face the consequences of her decisions and her “reforms”.

The right has been there before with Bush. They will be there again if they are foolish enough to elect this woman, who will rule McCain’s presidency far more than Cheny has done in Bush’s administration.

By Copyleft

September 16, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

So, Wooten… when can we expect your FIRST column on how great McLame is, and what a privilege it’ll be to vote for him?

Still waiting… still nothing. I wonder why the right wing is so scared to even mention their own candidate?

John McLame: Hoping to sneak into office by default. Don’t look! Don’t look!

By Ilene

September 16, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

To Glenn. You know the answer to that question already :) It’s a resounding “no.”

By Ms. Writer

September 16, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

Are you serious? This is what I hate about republicans (I am independent) you guys take up for even the most idiotic things that your party does. Palin is an idiot who needs to go back to Alaska and watch her sexually active daughter and special needs child. She is not intelligent enough to hold a debate on foreign poilcy let alone run the country if John McCan, God forbid, dies or gets sick in his old age. Palin? Come on, you cannot be serious!

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

Dear Fosdick @ 8:59, your vague reference to GLB is off course, it only added new privacy obligations and liabilities to the banks. (You know that worthless piece of paper you get every year from every financial institution – that is your GLB statement.) Tray is right, in relying on nothing more than the recent pattern of regulatory enforcement of CRA and HMDA. Many HMDA fines in the past five years.

By fearless fosdik

September 16, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

By Tray

September 16, 2008 8:43 AM

Please for your own edification read this! Perhaps you’ll learn something?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/15/AR2008091500637.html?hpid=topnews

By TJ

September 16, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

When will people realize that Sarah Palin is not the issue! Why are ppl still writing about her?

The REAL issue is about making the economy stronger, providing jobs for ppl out of work and reducing dependence on oil.

Instead ppl are writing about a lady who refers to herself a a pitbull in lipstick!

I’d be more interested in reading about her policies to improve the economy and issues than the fact that she’s a pitbull in lipstick.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

Dear Ilene @ 9:03, I apologize for being silly, I was merely teasing you. Your argument is well composed and thoughtful and you deserved a pat on the back for the effort rather than my wiseacre smart comment. Please continue posting your thoughts.

By Donna P.

September 16, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

What is interesting is how Obama is trailing in the polls. Geez what is wrong with America? On yeah, we are racist! But then again, the Democrats can’t stand a woman who is pro-life, pro-gun, pro-God, pro-country, pro-troops, and pro-marriage. Didn’t a Democrat in South Carolina say last week that Sarah’s only qualification is that “she didn’t have an abortion”? I guess she was referring to Sarah’s CHOICE to keep her child with Down’s syndrome.

By hillbilly ragger

September 16, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Yet another installment of “run out the clock.”

Ok, I’ll play along this once.

Destroy? Jim, nobody wants to “destroy” Sarah Palin. We simply want her to return to her teeny-tiny home-state constituency (smaller than the population of Gwinnett County) and go back to being that goofy gal play-acting at “taking on the old boy’s club” while actually scarfing up as much pork and patronage as the market will allow.

And given that this is Alaska, a welfare state that pays people to live there, the market allows a remarkable amount.

There’s no need to destroy anyone, we simply want to reveal her limitations for what they are, and ask the the tough questions one should expect a Presidential candidate to answer. As far as Palin’s concerned, the question I’d have for McCain, which he hasn’t answered yet, is simple: “Why should we trust you to make informed decisions as President, when you chose your running mate based on one in-person meeting and one telephone conversation?”

This isn’t about destroying anyone, Jim. That’s your game, that’s what you do, every election cycle, as you prefer to run on personalities rather than policies, on impressions rather than issues. It usually works, but maybe America’s had enough of it by now.

By fearless fosdik

September 16, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 9:13 AM

VAGUE REFERENCE?

OK ragnar is this specific enough for you?

The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, also known as the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act, Pub. L. No. 106-102, 113 Stat. 1338 (November 12, 1999), is an Act of the United States Congress which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, opening up competition among banks, securities companies and insurance companies. The Glass-Steagall Act prohibited a bank from offering investment, commercial banking, and insurance services.

The Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act (GLBA) allowed commercial and investment banks to consolidate. For example, Citibank merged with Travelers Group, an insurance company, and in 1998 formed the conglomerate Citigroup, a corporation combining banking and insurance underwriting services. Other major mergers in the financial sector had already taken place such as the Smith-Barney, Shearson, Primerica and Travelers Insurance Corporation combination in the mid-1990s. This combination, announced in 1993 and finalized in 1994, would have violated the Glass-Steagall Act and the Bank Holding Acts by combining insurance and securities companies, if not for a temporary waiver process [1]. The law was passed to legalize these mergers on a permanent basis. Historically, the combined industry has been known as the financial services industry.

By Original Rick

September 16, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

FactCheck.org. FactCheck.org. FactCheck.org. FactCheck.org. FactCheck.org. FactCheck.org.

Pay attention, people! If you want unbiased facts about the campaign, FactCheck.org will provide them.

Unfortunately, you Republicans will not like what you read because the majority of the analyses are about McCain/Palin and their lies and contradictions.

I can only ask this: How blind are you that you cannot even want to look for the truth, much less accept it, when sooooo many sources are providing critical breakdowns?

By Ray

September 16, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Latest electoral college prediction in the LA Times today. McCain…… 227, + 27 since the RNC Obama….. 220, no change since the DNC

States up for grabs….. MI, Ohio, Penn, MI, CO, VA, NV, total of 85 electoral votes. Need 270 to win…. McCain up 8% on LONG ISLAND, since RNC (NY has 31 EV) Give McCain any combination of any two of the states up for grabs, except NV and it is over. If he takes MI and NY, the fat lady can tune up. Lets just see how pi**ed off the Hillary crowd really is.

By Voice of Reason

September 16, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Again I say, that you are a mom, can shoot and eat mooseburgers does NOT mean you’re ready to be VP or Prez! You people who are excited about Palin need to stop being so image driven and look for some substance behind all this mess. WHY are they keeping her away from answring questions that are legitimate to ask ANY VP potential? Because she’s NOT ready; she ain’t got it!

McCain thinks white women are stupid and can be snowed over (didn’t get Hillary, here’s another white woman). Are people really that stupid!!?

Barack needs to get FIRED UP and put a iron brand on McCain’s butt. The economy is the worst it’s been; people are losing their jobs, homes, can’t buy food, gas, don’t have health insurance, etc., and McCain says the economy is fundamentally sound? Is he freakin’ kidding himself? Out of touch and if you people vote he and the mooose mouth into office, God help us all.

By Citizen of the World

September 16, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

In Sarah Palin, McCain has chosen an underqualified running mate who has been in the habit of choosing underqualified people to work in her administration — childhood friends, classmates, etc., with no qualifications whatsoever. The woman she put in charge of Alaska’s Department of Agriculture was the fact that she liked cows — and that was about it. Here’s the link text to be linked

Remember Brownie? If this team gets elected, there are going to be a lot of people in their administration “doing a heck-of-a-job.”

By marko

September 16, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

Interest piece about Caribou Barbie Jim. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought the election was between that black teenager and Granpa I don’t always agree with myself Munster. However If I’ve found myself in error and the the election is between Caribou Barbie and Joe, I know a good speech when I steal one Biden, I’m going with Biden because in my little universe borrowing speeches isn’t an offense quite up there with the two million dollar harbor seal DNA earmarks you forgot you requested.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

Dear Fosdick @ 9:14, if you are interested in causation of the problem, I suggest this essay.

By Redneck Convert

September 16, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

Well, I felt real bad when I saw that TV news story about the boy that was going to have half of his brain took out to keep from having fits. Then I thought about the Witt fambly up in Dawsonville that had a boy that had the same thing and had half of his brain took out.. Anyhow, old Half turned out OK. He growed up and reads water meters for the county and he’s talking about moving to Clayton County and running for the school board. Says it pays better and besides he’s already smarter than anybody on that board now.

After yesterday I was awful glad my co. retirement plan was in beer stocks instead of junk like home loans and cos. that make things. People can always do without loans and most stuff you buy in stores, but drunks will always buy beer. Even if the fambly starves and is out on the street.

Just look at what happens on this blog after 3 or so. You have to be a idiot not to know that half the people that post are lit up, and even Sister Dusty is into the Mogen David, judging by the stuff she writes. Come to think of it, Wooten is late opening the blog half of the time. Maybe he gets a early start. Anyway, I think my retirement money is plenty safe.

Anyhow, I don’t like neither of what the canadates say about what’s happening on Wall Street. I say leave all the banks alone. Let them cheat and steal and hide things till there’s nothing left. Sooner or later they will wear theirselfs out just like the oil cos. done and cheat each other and things will start getting back to normal. But keep guvmint out of it.

We wouldn’t have the problem if a bunch of librul banks had stayed away from making home loans to Those People. Some moran in a bank looks at a mortage app and sees income listed as $300,000. The guy filling out the app is driving a 1974 Buick and wearing overalls with big holes in them. So what does the bank guy do? Nothing except cut a check for $500,000 so the guy that ain’t paid his rent for three months can move into a mansion. A trailer ain’t good enough for Those People. No sir. The guy ain’t made $5,000 in any year of his life, so how’s he going to pay that much each month for a house payment?

That’s my opinion and it’s very true. I got nothing to say about this Palin woman. Have a good day everybody

By findog

September 16, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

Rangar, I think the theologians put it this way, “Prayer is us talking to God, and meditation is when God talks back.” The only wackiness is if someone truly believes that God told him or her to kill someone, or violate one of the other nine commandments… Should either candidate start to think that, “God wants them to be president,” I will certainly vote against them. @ 8:51 In defense of Ilene a quandary is the unknown from minute to minute.

Tray, When did the DEMS tell bankers who to give loans to? Did the sub-prime loan mess just recently appear in the last 18-months? Sometimes I really wonder if there will be any truth in the debate over the future of our country.

Glen @ 9:06 Surely as easy to find any other politician that is not

The last query I would like to add is what private employment has Governor Palin had that prepares her to understand the economy from the industrious instead of regulatory side of the equation?

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

Dear Fosdick @ 9:29, you really ought to read your posts before you hit the send button. There is not a single post-GLB merger; note that every evidence you cite predates the law. GLB is a privacy initiative.

By zeke

September 16, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

IT IS THE CLINTON ECONOMY STUPID! After 8 years of Clinton and his crap the economy was in the tank when W. was elected! The September 11, 2001 happened. It was a direct result of Clinton policies the castrated the itelligence and law enforcement of our country! Also, was probably the reason W. was given information on Irag that may not have been totally correct! Bush has done an admirable job considering what he had to take over and what has happened on the world scene since! Hopefully the voters will have a little intelligence and common sense and vote Republican and save our country!

By Tray

September 16, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

You can bring me Gramm all you want, doesn’t change the fact that MORE GOV’T INVOLVEMENT helped cause the problem…and who wants more GOV’T involvement, McCain, or Obama…hmmm…that’s what i thought.

Oh, and llene, get your facts right about Palin:

Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn’t cut it at all. In fact, she tripled per-pupil funding over just three years.

She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a “What if?” question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin’s first term.

She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She’s been registered as a Republican since May 1982.

Palin never endorsed or supported Pat Buchanan for president. She once wore a Buchanan button as a “courtesy” when he visited Wasilla, but shortly afterward she was appointed to co-chair of the campaign of Steve Forbes in the state.

Palin has not pushed for teaching creationism in Alaska’s schools. She has said that students should be allowed to “debate both sides” of the evolution question, but she also said creationism “doesn’t have to be part of the curriculum.”

vote dem and keep giving to the poor lazy who refuse to work because they think they are ‘owed something’ instead of having to work for it!

By dirty harry

September 16, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

By findog

September 16, 2008 9:37 AM

FINDOG…I understand she did a short stint at HOOTERS!

By Citizen of the World

September 16, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

I’m new at this — inexperienced, you might say — so let me try again to make the link:

text to be linked

This is an article detailing Sarah Palin’s habit of cronyism, in addition to her vindictive, autocratic management style. Is this the type of leader we want?

By Saying the news

September 16, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Lets be honest here…people are not voting for Obama Lama because he is almost black….there….I said it.

By andthensome

September 16, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

Sarah Palin: Cute as a button. Dumb as a post! Did you see her interview with Charlie Gibson? Moose in headlights, I’ll tell ‘ya. Doesn’t she know that if McLame is elected, he’s going to thank her for the votes she brought to his ailing campaign and ceremoniously tell her to go sit in a corner and color? Her job every day will be to call him in the morning to find out if he’s breathing, and attend the funerals of heads of state. That’s it. So, all this policy jargon and reform talk is ridiculous. She’s being used because of her body parts. And when McLame is done with her, he’ll pretend he never knew her. It was jealousy of Obama’s support that drove him to bring a woman into the campaign. So, don’t you think her being more popular than he is will endear him to her if he is in office? I don’t think so!

By Ga Ind.

September 16, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Zeke, Blame it on Clinton. The morons will always buy that one.

By JLK

September 16, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Cult of personality, indeed.

Trying to discuss qualifications with people who don’t CARE about qualifications is about as productive as trying to discuss literature with an eight year old in the videogame store.

You like Palin, and that’s that. Kind of broad you’d like to have a beer with. Wouldn’t abort your kid after that two-for-one shooter night from which she claims no recollection of anything past 10 o’clock. Snappy dresser, tough cookie. Talks a good game in church, too! Drinks on Saturday, God on Sunday! Not only doesn’t pout when you want to go hunting for the weekend, but she’ll come too, bag a big one, prepare your meal, and then b—- you in the tent. Yep, she’s ready to step in and be President if a McCain has a McStroke. This one’ll do! Everybody else can just shut their librul yap! You’ve got your girl now, dont you? A “real” woman. sigh

By Tray

September 16, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

And how about the polls that show dems would rather Biden be pres than Obama, so what are the Dems saying about themselves?? No faith in their MESSIAH anymore???

By AnonyMoose

September 16, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Keep dreaming Wooten! While you’re busy fantasizing, I’m going to continue to watch the Electoral College shape up for an Obama victory in November.

By mscutie78

September 16, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Thought for the day: YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!! Obviously you have NO clue about the military and DOD contractors serving abroad. Have you ever heard of absentee voting?? That’s what 90% of the military does because most often they are not living in the same place they registered to vote. Get a clue - they’re voices are heard!

By fearless fosdik

September 16, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

RAGNAR…What I cited was in context with what another poster .. posted!

I took the sub chapter of said bill! which applies.

I know the intent was a privacy bill, but the subchapter was not.

Read with your own eyes.

You say predates it…The GBL was written with the added sub-bill in 1999

And who invited you into the conversation?

By mscutie78

September 16, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Thought for the day: YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!! Obviously you have NO clue about the military and DOD contractors serving abroad. Have you ever heard of absentee voting?? That’s what 90% of the military does because most often they are not living in the same place they registered to vote. Get a clue - they’re voices are heard!

By mscutie78

September 16, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Thought for the day: YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!! Obviously you have NO clue about the military and DOD contractors serving abroad. Have you ever heard of absentee voting?? That’s what 90% of the military does because most often they are not living in the same place they registered to vote. Get a clue - their voices are heard!

By Timothy L. Pennell

September 16, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

What is it with the TALKING POINTS? Every article contains,”former SMALL TOWN MAYOR”. How about, “SITTING GOVERNOR”? You guys are PATHETIC, and we’re NOT STUPID. This is why your BOY, is going down.

By Grading Greenspan

September 16, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Sarah’s invulnerable, democrats. There’s nothing you can say or do. Look at that cover shot on Newsweek.

The disappointment is that she can only be the Veep, and not the potus.

Camille Paglia thinks Palin is a giant leap for feminism, but that hardly tells this story.

All pompoms and pearls and fembot fur, Palin has invented the cheerleader eligible play. She didn’t throw her hat in the ring, she threw us in the ring, and America got a good look at itself, and loved what it saw.

This is a new era. We wish Obama could reappoint his running mate, sure, but we pray to God that we might rearrange the GOP ticket, and flip flop, yes, flip flop Sarah For John, and John4Sarah.

America want Sarah Palin to be the next commander in chief.

Palin 08: America’s Cool StepMom.

By Ray

September 16, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Redneck Convert,

True words of wisdom.

By TW

September 16, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

BAGHDAD, Sept. 15 — More than 30 people were killed in bombings in Iraq on Monday, including one in Diyala province in which a female suicide bomber attacked policemen gathered to celebrate the release of a fellow officer from a U.S. detention facility, Iraqi officials said.

Perhaps we should have waited to evaluate the Surge until after we quit paying the bad guys to be quiet?

Now that we have fortified the Sunni with nice weaponry, perhaps the Civil War will be a little more competitive?

Only in Republican World. Guess it’s a good thing God didn’t make Iraqis…right? Right?

BTW - Check the numbers on Palin…ten years from now her claim to fame will be that she and her kaln set the ratings mark for the Jerry Springer Show.

It’s over, Jim. Nice try.

By AnonyMoose

September 16, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this

Tray, please share the link to these polls you refer to about Biden. I don’t believe they exist.

By Tray

September 16, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Yeah, McCain brought Palin in to win some popularity, and it worked.

Obama brought in who?? Biden, why?? To appeal to white middle age men, and he actually found out he needed some experience. What, he has experience? Wow, dod you hear that from the people living in states 51-57??

By Thought for Today

September 16, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

mscutie78 @ 9:55.
Where does it say anything about the “troops voting” in my post?? Whatch who you’re calling an idiot now - go look in the mirror.

By LadyBird

September 16, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

I’d rather have a midlly qualified VP in the office, than a majorly unqualified President!

I love how the liberals say Palin is unqualified, when their own candidate for President hasn’t even gotten close to her own experience.

Obama has never led a town, a county, a city, a state, a major corporation, much less any troops. He’s led the Democrats down the yellow brick road of “It’s all about Obama” and “I’m your Savior, Democrats!” propoganda.

As president he says he would immediately withdraw our troops from Iraq- even if he were strongly advised against this by our nation’s top military commanders. He would also hold direct talks with the Iranian regime- a regime that does not recognize Israel and is the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world.

Sadly way too many Americans are simply brushing off the facts, for his slick rhetoric. If the Debates showed one thing it’s this: Barack Obama thinks he is above tough questions, that somehow he should get a by on them because he’s so good, that he’s extremely in-experienced and has a basic lack of knowledge on economic theory. His economic theory has one component- punish every one else for the poor, just to be fair. Ah-lah Communism?

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Dear Fosdick @ 9:55, I understand you dislike being caught with your facts down, but GLB is one of my areas of emphasis, and I could not allow you to convolute the facts to suit your electoral agenda. There are real causes for the mortgage meltdown - I urge you to read my 9:34 link - but Tray’s instinct is closer to the problem than yours. To sustain your argument, you have to affirm that Bank of America’s acquisition of Merrill Lynch will worsen the problem – I think that argument is a nonstarter.

By Tray

September 16, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

here is the link

Look it up yourself

By Grading Greenspan

September 16, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

Sarah Palin 08: the cheerleader eligible play

Look closely at Sarah Palin. Then imagine the face of the Statue of Liberty. In fact, Tina Fey was actually doing the Statue of Liberty and everybody thought it was Sarah Palin.

Palin 08: Pompoms, Pearls, and Fembot Fur.

By bobthebuilder

September 16, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

Democrats post all your Blah,Blah,Blah! Change has NOT occured on the left side. Joe Bidden….hasn’t he ran unsuccessfully twice (1988 and 2008). There is a reason behind that! Quit trying to come up with reason that Sarah Palin is not qualified….if anybody is not qualified its Obama! Mr. I vote present!

To who ever talked on here about the US being racist! Why dont you get the hell out because your the one still bringing up the issue causing the US to be racist!

The real CHANGE has been on the right side! McCain/Palin for President 08!!!!!!

By Donald Levin

September 16, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

Ridicule is the best weapon against the Obamaniacs attempting to smear Sarah. For a good one, check out Sink the Obama! on YouTube

By Ga Ind.

September 16, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Although the republicans don’t “deserve” to win this election, I intended to vote for McCain prior to his selection of Palin. Given his age and the fact that she is an inexperienced, intellectual light-weight, I just don’t feel comfortable making that selection anymore. Palin’s interview with Charlie Gibson demonstrated that she’s can’t think on her feet and just way she continually said “Charlie” in her answers made it almost unbearable to listen to her. Biden will make her look silly in the debates, but no matter the results Wooten and his ilk will still claim victory.

Perhaps I’ll just waste my vote on Barr or one of the other fringe candidates. Afterall, it’s a foregone conclusion that Georgia will be carried by the republicans so it really doesn’t matter who anyone reading this blog votes for (unless you happen to live in one of the few swing states).

By fearless fosdik

September 16, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

OK RAGNAR I read the essay you provided.

Nhttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9246.htmlow you can read this….

By marko

September 16, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this

Zeke, technically speaking castration did’nt become standard U.S. policy untill Doubya took over the church and state. Seems it’s a useful tool for curing homo sexuality. As for saving America we’ve been saved quite enough thank you.

By Locke

September 16, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla, In 2005, those 5% paid nearly 60% of all income taxes the government collected. Why don’t you give them a break?

By Ray

September 16, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

The Newsweek cover of Sept 15th says a lot. Google it up. Every Joe Sixpack’s dream hunting companion, just imagining that long brown hair strewn generously over their pillow. Women swoon at how far she has gotten in the gender war, be they working moms, Wall Street lawyers or waitresses. She has hit a chord. They cheer for her and many are really not sorry that Clinton was thrown under the bus, mainly because of Slick Willy. And most really don’t care whether she can see Russia from her front door, whether or not she fired some dimwit who tased his 10yr old son, did or did not oppose that bridge…. they don’t care. They see her through different eyes and it is having a decided effect on how this race will turn out. When the Demo candidates for Congress and the Senate start distancing themselves from Mr Wonderful, like rats jumping ship, we will know it is over. It just might be over now.

By fearless fosdik

September 16, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

RAGNAR .. Let me try that last post again

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9246.html

By Jessica

September 16, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

I am so sick of hearing about McCain’s Barbie Doll. The woman knows nothing about politics and the working class people that are struggling with gas prices and this failing economy. Woman or not, she and McShame don’t have my vote.

By Jessica

September 16, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

I am so sick of hearing about McCain’s Barbie Doll. The woman knows nothing about politics and the working class people that are struggling with gas prices and this failing economy. Woman or not, she and McShame don’t have my vote.

By mm

September 16, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

Wingnuts,

Palin is going to cost you the election in November.

She’s already shown unethical behavior and now, true to Republican form, wants to stonewall an investigation.

Oh, by the way, McCain isn’t helping either. He’s sold his soul to the reichwing nutcases. Yesterday, as banks failed and stocks tumbled, he announced that the economy was strong.

Only the lemmings and racists will vote for McCain.

By bearcasey

September 16, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Sarah Palin is an interesting person, hot chick (but no Tina Fey) and political gimmick. McCain is a sly old dog!

By Goldie

September 16, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

I don’t want anyone like McBush in the White House because for all of his so-called “experience”, look where he’s taken America so far. Stuck in a quagmire in Iraq while Afghanistan continues to support the Taliban… McBush is the one who claimed that W’s regime change of Iraq would be a “fairly easy” task. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

McBush’s economic advisors are telling the American people that “we have become a nation of whiners!”, all the while banks are closing and jobs are continuing to be exported overseas.

America cannot afford anymore Repugs in the White House for the next 20 years or so!

By Maripo

September 16, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

If the elitist media is to be believed that only seasoned political veterans are fit to serve as President and Vice President, then the ideal candidates are: John McCain for President and DICK CHENEY for VP!

The leftist argument is a joke: Palin is too inexperience to be VP and McCain is too old to be President. Trouble is, Obama’s experience is even skimpier than Palin’s and McCain. So the Obambots are right to panic: they believed the fairytale that as Bush’s poll numbers go down, Obama’s chances go up.. trouble is, Obama should be 30 points ahead in the polls and at his highest rating, Obama couldn’t close the deal.

Obama’s answer to Palin was panic: a Harvard man talking trash and calling a female opponent “pig” is not presidential material.

By Goldie

September 16, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Locke @ 10:27 — who do you suggest pay for all the wars and regime changes that your guy McBush keeps advocating? Why do you Repugs not want to pay for your own WARS???

By Fembot Fur

September 16, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Palin 08: The Cheerleader Eligible Play

By markom

September 16, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Locke, your nearly 60% figure includes corporate taxes. Rich folks tend to own corporations. Corporations don’t pay taxes they collect them for the government via their customers. The middle class pays the taxes If anybody deserves a break It’s them. as for the poor little rich folks, Doubya already threw them a 32 trillion dollar break.

By Still Thinking

September 16, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

McCain: “fundamentally the economy is still strong” and a moose hunter from Alaska. Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Back when Hillary was vying for the presidential nomination my mother said “Oh, we couldn’t have a woman for President.” Then when Palin was chosen she said, “Well, I guess a woman could be president.”

How many more staunch Republicans are there who cannot see the real issues: The War and the Economy. You are voting for a party and their principles in spite of what they have done to wreak havoc on the US and the world.

Yes, a woman could easily be president but not Palin… and we certainly don’t need McCain.

By Dusty

September 16, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

By golly, among the seers here this morning we have the SUCKERS.

Jim Wooten correctly asserts that the left is in a quandary over Palin. Then the liberals here go the extra mile to prove that Jim is correct. Everything from Hooters to book banning artfully fans imaginative lies about Palin or slurs against her daughter.

Meanwhile, even liberal magazines like TIME admit that Palin is a talented politician who says the right thing at the right time. That’s because she knows the difference between right and wrong, s talent that seems lost for many politicians. McCain also has that talent which has long been known as INTEGRITY.

But kudos to Brother RedNeck this morning.(He’s not my REAL brother, thank goodness.) He had the temerity to skip over Palin propaganda. I guess he didn’t want to take the chance at being wrong about everything, such as this example: I drink MANICHEVITZ during fruitcake season, NOT Mogen David. AND…I just as soon drink dishwater as BEER.

RedNeck don’t kno muthin (like most undercover libs)…..

By hillbilly ragger

September 16, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Since Tray’s fond of snapshot polling, thought he’d enjoy this link to five thirty eight dot com’s take on how Palin’s favorability numbers are eroding.

I’m sure it’s nothing. I’m sure America will continue to swoon over this woman almost nobody had heard of three weeks ago…

Take that victory lap, Republicans! It’s practically won already!

By Conservative

September 16, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

The democrate choose to put their least qualified candidate in the general election and all of the sudden the focus shifts to whether the Veep on the Republican ticket is qualified to be President? Really?

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Dear Fosdick @ 10:25, I never believed that the erroneous idea originated with you, and I do not doubt that your life was changed by that March 8, 2008 article, but I respectfully note that even within the context of the article it fails the “if/then” causation test. Nothing cited, merely name-calling.

In addition to the arguably-criminal lobbying by FNMA and FHLMC for larger lending authorities, and resisting oversight sought by the Bush administration, I think any reasonable post-mortem for the distress in the mortgage industry would have to look at the Fed’s 1970s style faith in the Philips Curve and its pursuit of low interest rates. Most of us discarded any intellectual respect for the Philips Curve when the economy failed under Jimmy Carter’s conscious application of Keynesian economics. I think only the Fed and few leftist campus economics departments could possibly think the Fed’s monetary policy for the past six years had any benefit, but most of us saw too much money chasing too few investment opportunities.

By Road Scholar

September 16, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Ragnar: I have only seen segments of her interview with Charlie Gibson. I am going on line to see the whole two part interview; I have not had time to view it.

My comment was based on the original airings of tapes from her church records prior to the interview. When a more complete and decently lengthy segment was shown to not only provide the quote, but also the introduction and finale to the segment. As with Obama, the context of the quote shoud be understood, which gives a more complete and HONEST insite to what she said/meant.

Isolating a statement, without knowing the context can lead to misunderstanding, or as the McCain campaign has done repeatedly, the misinformation has been skewed to a lie. IE the legislation in Illinois concerning teaching children how to identify sexual predators (which also could have included info for their parents to use) being referred to as complete sexual education. By drawing this conclusion from the real intent, does this mean Repubs favor pedaphiles? Oh by the way, didn’t that legislation pass with a 96% favorable vote from both parties?

By Tray

September 16, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

I guess i shut up the doubters…

Obama is no good, and people voting for him should know robbing the rich and giving to the poor won’t create jobs, won’t ‘fix’ anything, and continue in a downward spiral.

By independent

September 16, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this

I’m confuse, I see the Republicans are trying to talk about everything other thatn the ISSUES. I want to hear what are going to do for me. I want a plan so I can hold them accountable. Like all politicians they won’t be able to get it all done but some of it.

By dirty harry

September 16, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

McCain’s campaign has said that Palin will not talk to the media until reporters can address her with “respect and deference.”

WHAT? Respect and deference….

What does that mean…it means she’s not ready for prime-time.

They (McCains handlers) know that Palin could not pass the smell test at this juncture.

Obama who all of you rightwingers declare doesn’t have the experience, has been through numerous debates..reporters questions, and even sat down with Bill O’Reilly.

But Palin…Must be treated with Deference and respect…Total BS

By Jassie

September 16, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

Awhhhh…the shortsighted Republicans….

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re “exotic, different.”

• Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, a quintessential American story.

• If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

• Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you’re a maverick.

• Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

• Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you’re well grounded.

• If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.

• If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.

• If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian.

• If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a Christian.

• If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

• If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you’re very responsible.

• If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America’s.

• If you’re husband is nicknamed “First Dude”, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

By amazed

September 16, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

no matter how many times the republican answer every question with the same tired answer. for example; Question: What is your name? Answer: We are going to shake things up in Washington! Question: What are the specifics of your policy on Energy? Answer: We are going to shake things up in Washington!

By AJC/DNC Management

September 16, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

To find anything comparable to crowds’ euphoric reactions to Oblahma, you would have to go back to old newsreels of German crowds in the 1930s, with their adulation of their fuehrer, Adolf Hitler. With hindsight, we can look back on those people with pity, knowing now how many of them would be led to their deaths by the man they idolized.

Or maybe you should google “Jim Jones.”

By Eric Dondero

September 16, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this

Sarah Palin is a libertarian Republican. The Left has never had to deal with a libertarian running for such a high office before, (well, since Goldwater.) So, it completely throws them off. They’re used to running agains social conservatives. Thus, you see them trying to paint Sarah Palin with that brush. But it’s not working. People know inherently that she’s a Western-style Conservative, i.e. libertarian. Which is making the left even more batty.

By Ray

September 16, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Goldie,

You might look at how similar both candidates are as opposed to how different. 75% of the federal budget is still going to go to three things, the Pentagon, Medicare/Medicaid and social security. These are sacred cows….. no one touches any of them or he/she doesn’t get re-elected. Foreign aid will stay the same or increase, depending on who wins, and the other 25% of the budget will be played with in Congress by the same old people, depending on who has the majority. The war will end before long, just as it did in VN after Nixon came along . The tax code will not change, our energy policies will probably not change if change has any effect on politicians getting re-elected and our stance with the 10 or so countries that we have mutual interests with will remain about the same as it is now.
What is left…… personalities, plain and simple. America is tired of the Joe Bidens and the Trent Lotts and the Robert Byrds. How long has it been since a fresh face hit the scene? Like her or not, this lady is going to win this election for the Repubs despite her “inexperience”, her star power and her NRA membership, or maybe because of all of the above.

By R M Pierce

September 16, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Why do we want someone with no background in international affairs, no depth in looking at, solving and considering the myriad problems of the world or even how the United States of America works in that world. This idea that being scrappy and having no resume is good is so utterly ridiculous that it is impossible to even address. This is the President of the United States we are speaking of and we would ask for more hands on experience from a plumber.

By R M Pierce

September 16, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Why do we want someone with no background in international affairs, no depth in looking at, solving and considering the myriad problems of the world or even how the United States of America works in that world. This idea that being scrappy and having no resume is good is so utterly ridiculous that it is impossible to even address. This is the President of the United States we are speaking of and we would ask for more hands on experience from a plumber.

By View From Lesbian

September 16, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

But the GOP will save you from the gays!!

No matter if you can’t feed your family, have to choose between gas and diapers, have to work until you die becouse your 401K tanked. No matter your house is worth 1/3 of what it once was. No matter you may or may not have a job tomorrow. No matter that companies are sending out jobs to 2nd/3rd world countries. No matter that you and your family living on the street, which was once thought as impossible (even laughable), is now a possibility. No matter that our children will have to pay down our countries debt for the rest of thier lives. No matter that personal savings is at an all time low and personal debt at an all time high. No matter that foreign countries are buying our land right and left. No matter that the dollar is tanked.

YOU ARE SAVED FROM THE GAYS AND YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVE.

By Tray

September 16, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Hey hilbilly ragger,

first off, can’t view your link AT WORK, sorry. Secondly, i don’t care about Palin’s numbers slipping!

Swooning over a woman no one’s heard of?? REMINDS ME OF SOMEONE WHO STARTED RUNNING FOR PRES THAT NO ON HAD HEARD OF!!

(Obama, in case you needed help)

Wow, snapshot polls-did it mention it was a Rasmussen poll?

Hillbilly ragger, that name also sounds like your hiding some underground hatred for whites in my opinion…wonder if your vote is racially swayed.

By the way-another flash poll, just can’t find the link yet…

More blacks will vote for Obama because he’s black, than whites will vote against him because he’s black.

Wonder what side uses race as a card still…?

By Orion

September 16, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

“Breeders need not apply!” - or at least that’s the message we should take away from the vicious, unhinged attacks on Governor Palin over the past 3 weeks. They’ve attacked her for everything from her hair to her children. Every vicious rumor imaginable has been blasted across the Internet and some of the moonbats have even said, “It doesn’t matter if the attacks are true or not, it doesn’t matter if we believe them - SHE MUST BE STOPPED!”

I’d say she drives them nuts only they already had tickets for the bus.

By fredguff

September 16, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Wake up Jim the inning is over and you are a week late. We are now reading the next chapter in the Sarah Saga. With that in mind, I notice that you are dead silent on all the falsehoods being forwarded to fuel the myth of “Sarah the Reformer”. Bridge to Nowhere? Jet “put” on Ebay? Chef let go? Transparency in government? None of these claims are true and the clumsy semantics games that McCain/Palin are using to support them are laughable. And what about McCain? How is he going to fix the economy? With Phil Graham?!!! Unless he has some concrete proposals that can separate him from his voting record he will not be viewed as an agent of change. Mark my words on that!

I think the McCain/Palin numbers have peaked and I don’t see them going up much higher unless they both do really well in the debates which I wouldn’t bank on. The news regarding Merril Lynch and Lehman Brothers is not going to help McCain/Palin either.

By findog

September 16, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Locke @ 10:27 It is an unfortunate fact that your numbers exclude the social security taxes that are paid on the first dollar earned by nearly everyone. Those social security funds have been used as part of the budget for decades and account for a portion of our deficit. So where do you think we are going to get the funds to: continue two wars, repair the military, and upgrade our infrastructure? We should consider returning to the pre-Bush taxation levels that balanced the budget and started to pay off our debts. Or do you propose we pass the ten trillion dollar deficit to win in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Ray @ 10:28 Are we electing a leader or a mirage?

Goldie @ 10:35 As Obama should never be tied to the radical left, dreaming of how things might be; McCain should never be tied to President Bush, who makes up his mind and sticks to his plan regardless of facts.

Dusty @ 10:40 Only because they aspire to the Marcus of Queensbury rules and refuse to annihilate a lady for misspeaking…

Rangar @ 10:49 Very true on the lack of opportunity thought I applaud your candor. As for the previous discussions and the democratic faults I vaguely remember that redlining was the prime focus of their bank agenda.

Final thought, it was not the banks but the loan originators that started the mess; the banks just got lazy repackaging the mortgages as securities. Needing more investment opportunities new, lower qualifying/quality, products were created but granted the same security classification as your or my own mortgage and the banks failed to prepare for the reckoning. Therefore, these banks must fail for failing to guard their assets and then we can start over again…

By dirty harry

September 16, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

TRAY

You say you work two jobs..rent, and other things that make me believe you are in the lower economic class.

Based on that presumption…

When you vote republican…YOU ARE VOTING AGAINST your SELF INTEREST.

Health care (McCain has a new idea,) NOT GOOD) social security (How about privatization) taxes (Trickle down theory) Good jobs being shipped overseas

If you want to work two jobs for the rest of your life..lose any health care benefits you have, and wait for the little trickle to come down.

McCain is for you!

If you’ve enjoyed the last 8 years? You are going to be estactic with what McCain will deliver if he is elected….

Perhaps he can help you out and find you a third job…

More of the same=John McCain

By Craig

September 16, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

It still amazes me when I read some of the comments by the bloggers on the AJC. People tend to argue that the candidates stretch the truth or lie. It appears that most of the bloggers on here do the same thing. Monkey See, Monkey Do.

With regards to both Candidates. A recent article has indicated that John McCain is by far more bipartisan than Obama. This will be a very important election and the US will need a president who can talk with both sides of the asile. Most of the issues today can go back to a Congress that has not done anything for the past 2 years. It is easy to blame the president since he sits on top. However, Congress needs to send some bills to his desk in order for anything to get accomplished. Politicians for both democrat and replublican sides are afraid to take a stand on an issue due to the upcoming election. With parts of the ecomony hurting right not, this is a shame. It is easy to place blame on someone, but the greater challenge will be to stand up and fight for what is right and help the country move forward. John McCain is more of a moderate than a republican. He almost ran as a independant candidate a year or two ago.

Obama is a liberal democrat. His voting record (for the limited time he has actually been in Washington) supports this conclusion. John McCain is a moderate Republican. His voting record throughout his tenure has varied from issue to issue.

Candidates that win elections are those that people can relate too. A majority of the US is made of the middle class. Look at the last several elections and who won those elections.

The last 5 preseidents did a good job with relating to the average American (Even the current president). Typically, the losing candidate was unable to convince the voters that he could relate to their issues. One big reason the democrats struggle is that they tend to go towards people from the east coast, who typically do not resonate with the rest of the country. Obama’s choice of Biden was not very wise. Obama would have been in better shape if he picked someone from middle america, such as Evan Bayh of Indiana. John McCain was very wise in picking Sarah Palin. She appears to relate very well to the middle class. A working mother of 5 who worked her way up from the PTA all the way to Governor. If Hollywood was not so focused on the left, they would most likley make a movie about her.

The election will show us who will win. My guess is McCain will win based upon just the simple numbers and demographics. We will see.

By Ray

September 16, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

We elect members of the Congress and the Senate to have a handle on what is going on in this country. The Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs has really dropped the ball. All of this happened on Christopher Dodd’s watch, one of our stalwart Demo committee chairmen who is tasked with keeping tabs on the pulse of banking and housing in this country and being proactive in trying to solve problems associated with this mess before they occur. Or is it too much to ask them to do their job instead of only spending 143 days in session in 2007? None of us would keep our jobs for five minutes if we had screwed up like this. The Congress spends our money and passes our laws. Where were they when all of this mess first started? Makes you kind of sick, doesn’t it?

By Fembot Fur

September 16, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

I dont want to quibble, quarrel or quell debate, but is there quite the quantity of the qwerty left who R in a quandary over the quarantined Queen Quayle to qualify as a quorum to querulously (and without qualms) quash this quarry?

Just a point of order.

By Kevin

September 16, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

I think the more “dirt” Democrats try to find, the more that women will stand behind Gov Palin. Although Ms. Peggy Noonan’s advice is sound, we both know that for the most part, Democrats are not logical thinking persons and will continue to try and get Palin. If Democrats were logical, than Obama would not be their candidate. But the left leads with emotions and not logic.

By hillbilly ragger

September 16, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

Tray @ 11.06, actually my nick comes from what I’ve always called the local hillbilly rag—officially, it’s “The Gwinnett Daily Post.” Sometimes I take the trouble to post to my crummy little blog about it, although I’ve not been all that interested of late.

Since I like to rag on the rag… well, you get the idea.

Hey, I love white people! some of my best friends are melanin-challenged!

By Ray

September 16, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

We elect members of the Congress and the Senate to have a handle on what is going on in this country. The Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs has really dropped the ball. All of this happened on Christopher Dodd’s watch, one of our stalwart Demo committee chairmen who is tasked with keeping tabs on the pulse of banking and housing in this country and being proactive in trying to solve problems associated with this mess before they occur. Or is it too much to ask them to do their job instead of only spending 143 days in session in 2007? None of us would keep our jobs for five minutes if we had screwed up like this. The Congress spends our money and passes our laws. Where were they when all of this mess first started? Makes you kind of sick, doesn’t it?

By dudley do right

September 16, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

tray…You say “You can’t view a link while you’re at work”!

I thought people went to work..TO WORK!

And here you are crying about having to WORK two jobs…While all you do is post on the internet.

I’m sure your employer would be a little bit put out if he knew he was paying you to blog!

By Fembot Fur

September 16, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

I dont want to quibble, quarrel or quell debate, but is there quite the quantity of the qwerty left who R in a quandary over the quarantined Queen Quayle to qualify as a quorum to querulously (and without qualms) quash this quarry?

Just a point of order.

By v racer

September 16, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

Road Scholar got it all wrong. What a fine example of liberal ignorance and double speak.

By '47 Chief

September 16, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

Sarah Palin has once again made it fashionable to shamelessly lie to the public, and now the neo-con Republicans and right-wing wackos are back in their element, “happier than pigs in…”

By Fembot Fur

September 16, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

The SnowWitch, Storied Chapter

After the snakes devoured the gay mini-army in front of her constituency giving her the lead in the polls, the SnowWitch challenged the Black Knight to a debate.

The two candidates stood feet apart. “Change” opined the Black Knight. “Change” countered the SnowWitch. The Nielson Family monitors of real time voting preference spun wildly in opposite directions as the debate continued.

“Guns”, the SnowWitch pre-empted. A gentle warning from the debate host about waiting for her turn allowed the Black Knight his word.

“Guns” he said looking straight into the camera. But then he repeated it. “Guns” he said again in a more declarative tone, with more finality in his inflection.

The SnowWitch was furious, her face turned red, on national Television, she was coming apart fast, and had to regroup. She pretended to take a sip of water. She coughed, and motioned with her left hand toward her throat like there was something caught in it. A murmur from the audience prompted a warning to be quiet by the debate host.

She licked her lips, and said softly, “The Black Knight is an idiot.”

A gasp. Consternation. Here and there, small pods of pointy heads started throwing punches. The debate host was pounding his gavel on his desk.

The Black Knight was visibly shaken, his face turned pale, (as much as it could), he broke out into beads of easily seen sweat thanx to HDTV.

“That was uncalled 4” he squeeked.

“And I’m saying uncategorically that you’re an IDIOT!” the SnowWitch threw her hand forward, with her index finger ramrod straight at the Black Knight.

Total silence in the hall. The Black Knight choked out a mumbled objection that nobody could understand. “I…guns…you….change….they…..we…..”

The SnowWitch left the stage and dissappeared as if into thin air.

The Black Knight stood alone, wordless, ambushed by a complete sentence and a total violation of the pointy head’s rules of parliamentary debating procedures.

The crowd began, sullenly, to file out of the hall and into the night. The gloves were off. The next debate would have new rules.

By Goldie

September 16, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

So, no Repugs here can say why they don’t want to pay for their WARS that they continue to promote? Remember, your guy McBush believes that “winning” in Iraq means that we stay there indefinitely — and we’re spending BILLIONS of $$$ every month in Iraq, money that we don’t have. We’re in hock to the Russians and Chinese for all of your war-mongering.

WHY don’t any of you Repugs ever want to pay for your WARS? Why do you keep insisting on your tax breaks when our country is so broken down due to your failed economic and WAR policies?

By Jim is a caveman

September 16, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Here are Jim’s column headlines for the next few days: 9/17- Obama scared of Palin, hides in big appliance box 9/18- Obama scared of Palin, must change shorts before campaign appearance 9/19- Democrats scared of Palin, make collective underwear change 9/21- Democrats need new underwear due to Palin, will raise taxes 9/22- Biden scared of Palin, can’t bring himself to attack 9/23- Biden scared of Palin, crossdresses at campaign event 9/24-Obama despairs of winning race due to Palin, stops campaigning 9/25- Obama despairs of winning race due to Palin, considers conceding before election 9/26- Obama despairs of winning race due to Palin, considering suicide 9/27- Palin voted greatest female politician ever by Republicans in Jim Wooten’s house 9/28- Palin wins vote over sliced bread as greatest ever 9/29- Palin nominated for sainthood despite not being Catholic 9/30- McCain asked to step aside for Palin: Good for GOP, good for country, good for world 10/1- Jim acknowledges he wanted Palin to run for President back in ‘06, says he knew all along she was the right candidate for GOP 10/2- Palin named winner of debate before debate even occurs, as no one can match her rhetorical skills or personality 10/3- Biden dons hair shirt at debate, grovels at Palin’s feet, begs forgiveness for questioning her greatness 10/4- Democrats despair of ever winning national election again because of Palin, consider mass suicide 10/5- Palin crowned queen of universe and US, with options on Canada and Russia, both of which she can see from her house

By Ray

September 16, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

fingdog,

Probably a little of both. Compare Edwards’s image to Palin’s. He may have had a lot of knowledge about a lot of things but now he couldn’t find a job in the Congress sweeping floors. Slick Willy’s image didn’t stop him from being able to speak at the DNC but Edwards could not. I even think that a lot of Demos thought that getting a BJ, eating a pizza and talking to some general about troop deployment at the same time was just called multi-tasking. Depends on whose image you are looking at and by whom.

By NothingButHypocrites

September 16, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

JASSIE @10:54,

That was GREAT!!!!

Did anyone see Bill O’Reilly last night? I thought it was interesting that he choose to do a segment on Obama’s mother and father, but truly had nothing good to say about his family at all. Tonight he’s doing a segment on Michelle Obama and her family.

I can’t wait for him to dig into Sarah Palin’s family and the first DUDE. I’m sure he will provide the perfect picture of a Leave It to Beaver type of family. But, if TROOPERGATE, provides an insight -it will be more interesting than Jerry Springer.

By Robby

September 16, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

Palin has single-handedly changed the entire race. She is bigger than Obama or McCain right now. Call her names if you must but she has sparked something huge and the left is terrified.

By markom

September 16, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

Locke, your nearly 60% figure includes corporate taxes. Rich folks tend to own corporations. Corporations don’t pay taxes they collect them for the government via their customers. The middle class pays the taxes If anybody deserves a break It’s them. as for the poor little rich folks, Doubya already threw them a 32 trillion dollar break.

By v racer

September 16, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

Lenin was a community organizer too. PS: The more the OJ murderer defense team attempts to use his race again as a defense/justification/nullification, the worse it will be for Obama. Many who say they will vote for Obama will not pull his lever in the privacy of the voting booth.

By Locke

September 16, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

Goldie, You poor misguided soul. 1) McCain and Bush are two seperate individuals. 2) I never said McCain was “my guy”. 3) I never identified myself as a Republican. Why don’t you try a rational discussion without the name-calling.

markom, Nope, those are individual income tax figures.

findog, I agree. Payroll taxes are hideously regressive. We have done our children a great disservice with our free-spending ways - both governmental and personal. I’m afraid what we have in store is increases in taxes, cuts in Social Security and Medicare benefits and in all government services.

By Ray

September 16, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

Caveman,

Absolutely priceless!

By v racer

September 16, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Obama’s only “qualifications” are that he is a democrat and black. Both groups will vote for him for the wrong reasons.

By Fembot Fur

September 16, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

BTW: anybody check out the “coincidence” of my SnowWitch story line and Fox News describing a fembot army arising for Palin?

Just me and my little umlaut-challenged keyboard.

Just think what I could accomplish if I only had an umlaut key. Why, I could blog like Arnold Schwartzenegger!

By Jason

September 16, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

“Sarah Palin is a libertarian Republican. The Left has never had to deal with a libertarian running for such a high office before, (well, since Goldwater.) So, it completely throws them off. They’re used to running agains social conservatives.”

A libertarian?! She’s a pro-life fundamentalist Christian who opposes gay marriage and wants creationism taught in schools. Palin’s pretty much the epitome of social conservatism.

By findog

September 16, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

Ray @ 11:23 Congress’ mandate is not to react but rather oversight of the executive and writing laws. You apparently are thinking of a Prime Minister type of government where the head of state is within the legislative body and can act accordingly. I guess you would prefer congress pass all those bills, not held up by a single senator, for the president to veto instead of trying to work grand compromises [moderation]. The money is actually spent by the executive branch not congress, and with the expansion of the presidential signing statements what guarantee is there that the funds go where sent? Washington is just as broken as Georgia’s legislature with the politicians not willing to do anything they cannot claim sole credit for…

By Common Sense

September 16, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Ray can you stop lying for a change!

What is wrong with you? The congress pass laws hey don’t regulate industries!

The SEC and Greenspan are the blame for this mess.The SEC relaxed rules on subprime loans and Greenspan the REPUBLICAN back the relax rules.

I know because I was in the banking industry so stop lying for a change this country has heard and seen enough lying from our politicians.

I am amazed people are energize by people who can ourright lie about what they do!

By getalife

September 16, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Yes, McLiar is losing it

Like the other POW said, he should be nowhere near the button.

By Susan

September 16, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Sarah Palin is a good ole boy in a skirt. She has trampled people who didn’t do as she wanted and will continue to do so - keep a watch out for the evolving “trooper-gate” scandal. She and McCain are Bush Part 3, only worse. They are lying their way through the campaign and people need to wake up and realize what’s at stake.

By andthensome

September 16, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

You are The Boss… which team would you hire?

With America facing historic debt, multiple war fronts, stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high prison population, skyrocketing Federal spending, mortgage crises, bank foreclosures, etc. etc., this is an unusually critical election year.

Let’s look at the educational background of your two options:

Obama: Occidental College - Two years. Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations. Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

& Biden: University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science. Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

VS.

McCain: United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 of 899

& Palin: Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism

Now, which team are you going to hire ? Because ACTUALLY, voter, you ARE the boss!

By Abe Froman

September 16, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

The repubs sealed their own faith when McSame put the moose burger queen out there for the people to laugh at. She’s a republican and dont know about the current republican president’s doctrine? That is the biggest joke of the entire election.

I guess the old man really does have a thing for younger women. (LOL)

By Susan

September 16, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Sarah Palin is a good ole boy in a skirt. She has trampled people who didn’t do as she wanted and will continue to do so - keep a watch out for the evolving “trooper-gate” scandal. She and McCain are Bush Part 3, only worse. They are lying their way through the campaign and people need to wake up and realize what’s at stake. Check out what’s true and what’s not at www.factcheck.org

By Carbon Footprint

September 16, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

Ray: absolutely!

Sarah 08: isn’t there a song called Sarah? who sang that? Somebody find the song titles “Sarah” in the past 50 years.

Lets see, there was Peggy Sarah, Peggy Sarah, pretty pretty pretty pretty Peggy Sarah…is that how it goes? How does that go? anybody, come on….I’m rolling here.

There was that other song, Runaround Sarah. I should have known it from the very start, that’s I be votin with a broken heart…..

Then there was the Who’s RockOpera “Sarah”…Sarah can you hear me? Sarah can you feel me?

Of course, the greatest album ever, Sarah’s Lonely Hearts Club Band. “Sarah in the Sky with diamonds…Picture yourself in a boat near Alaska with rose garden glasses to see Russian spies….someone asks how and you answer quite slowly, I see with kaleidoscope eyes……

By Peadawg

September 16, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

OMG, I just saw the video of Obama saying he’s visited all 57 states, not including Hawaii or Alaska…what an idiot! And ya’ll want this guy as President? WOW!

By Suzanne

September 16, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

I’m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight…..

• If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you’re ‘exotic, different.’

• Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers: a quintessential American story.

• If your name is Barack you’re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

• Name your kids Willow, Trig, and Track: you’re a maverick.

• Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

• Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating: you’re well grounded.

• If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate’s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran’s Affairs committees, you don’t have any real leadership experience.

• If your total resume is: local weather girl (sports caster), 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with fewer than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with 650,000 people, then you’re qualified to become the country’s second highest ranking executive.

• If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you’re not a real Christian.

• If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you’re a Christian.

• If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

• If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state’s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you’re very responsible.

• If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family’s values don’t represent America’s.

• If you’re husband is nicknamed ‘First Dude’, with at least one DUI conviction and no college education, who didn’t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

By rc

September 16, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

first thing ceos will do if mccain elected and passes corporate tax cuts, a pay raise for themselves. profits after taxes up thus the ceo deserves a raise. wanna bet?

By Lynne Gray

September 16, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Yes, yes million times yes. You got it. Waaaaayy back when the Women’s movement began, (of which I was a supporter), the thrust was ‘many women and men are more alike than different in abilities, interests, strengths.’ So shouldn’t we all, men and women, be able to be flexible and free in our choices. Men don’t any longer need to have the ‘provider thing’ rest solely on their shoulders, women can stop pretending they don’t have the answer, can’t change a tire, do math, or run a company . This would only make our relationships and society stronger . SO along comes a women and man who operated just that way. And she’s been able to do some amazing things. But she gets zapped by feminists (at some point down the road, just trying to rework stale, and at times destructive, ideas about men and women , wasn’t enough, had to have a new catchy name: feminism.) Ironically, it was Gloria Steinem, herself, on one of her major birthdays, (60-ith), who fielded the remark ” You don’t look like a 60 year old woman, with “This is what a 60 year women looks like.” H-E-L-L-O, GLORIA, Palin is what the Today woman can look like and the Today couple can look like. She doesn’t have to sign up under any banner. Wasn’t that supposed to be what it was all about for women?

By Common Sense

September 16, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

It’s amazing how the less focus people think about if someone can prevent you from buying a machine gun at a gun show!

Or when Salaam is hired by your brother at a cheaper rate you get mad! Well Salaam has better skills!

See why you cling! Ha!

On what reallu counts we are in trouble and the REPUBLICANS ave ran the show if you vote them in and lose you house and job you have no-one to blamce but yourselves.

Everyone knew in 2004,2005 these home loans were not good but the REPUBLICAN Congress or White House did nothing.

It will take years before we can come of this mess!

Are you better now then you were 8 years ago!

By fearless fosdik

September 16, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

By andthensome

September 16, 2008 12:16 PM

Ah…Gee…Let me see!

Palin, well..she did accumulate 2 semesters - of general studies at the University of Idaho!

And McCain was a POW..POW..POW..POW..POW..POW!

It’s a tough choice you have giving me here!

Can I take a moment to think about it?

By Peadawg

September 16, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

OMG, I just saw the video of Obama saying he’s visited all 57 states, not including Hawaii or Alaska…what an idiot! And ya’ll want this guy as President? WOW!

By Copyleft

September 16, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Peadawg:

OMG, I just saw a video of McLame talking about the Irak-Pakistan border… what an idiot! And you want this guy as President? WOW!

By Shrugging Atlas

September 16, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Too funny. Jim is the classic representation of “telling yourself what you have to in order to get up and look in the mirror in the morning”, as well as, “if you tell yourself something enough it might come true”. The repugnants got their initial bounce from the fact that Palin’s pick was so un-vetted and quick that no one had time to actually see her record, or lack there of. Now that the truth is coming out, against the Repugnants best efforts, they are the ones wha are scratching their heads as evidence by this: “The bounce John McCain received in national opinion polls following his party’s convention and the selection of Sarah Palin to the GOP presidential ticket appears to have evaporated”. Now continue to tell yourselves this was a good pick, and continue to tell yourselves that the dems are scared and that you’re going to win. Continue to do what ever you have to do, but we all know you’re the ones who are scared. It’s so obvious.

By Carbon Footprint

September 16, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Sarah in the sky with diamonds….Sarah in the Sky with diamonds…..ahhhhhhhh

It was twenty days ago today, sarah putin taught us how to play…she was going with a maverick’s style but she won us all with just her smile..

and so I introduce to you, the act you’ve missed for all these years….Sarah Putin’s phony slight of hand….

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

September 16, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Jim, what about the real issues you don’t want to talk about? What about the crumbling economy, the illegal war in Iraq, the lost war in Afghanistan, the huge deficit, the graft, greed and dishonesty of the George W. Hitler administration and thr evisceration of the Constitution of the United States he’s presided over? You, and other Republinazi hacks in the employ of the GOP, want to talk about this unsophisticated moron with breasts. We don’t care about her and we don’t fear her. How will putting Mc Dumdum in the office of president benefit the American people? It won’t! He’s just the same as the Fuhrer sitting in there stinkin’ up the place now. This country has suffered horribly under George W. Hitler and it’s time to throw out the Republinazi Party. You need to go too Jim!

By dirty harry

September 16, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

By Suzanne

September 16, 2008 12:23 PM

SUZANNE, well put

Unfortunately all you have to do is go back to 2000 or 2004 when Gore/Kerry were by far the best candidates, and who was elected?

People say the american people are smart..Me I think otherwise.

By fearless fosdik

September 16, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

OMG, I just saw a video of McCain not knowing the difference between the Sunni and S** … what an idiot! And you want this guy as President? WOW!

By Still Thinking

September 16, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

andthensome

On credentials alone, this is a no-brainer.

But we have so many other good reasons to make a change here, and you named off a bunch. There won’t be any quick fix here no matter who goes in. But we know we can’t afford more of what we have had. Our retirements can’t handle it and neither can those who can’t even afford food and gas today.

I don’t recall the US ever in worse condition. I’m sure it has been but not in my 50+ years. And we are bringing the rest of the world down with us.

Go Obama / Biden - Sure hope you can help because we know McCain / Palin can’t.

By Peadawg

September 16, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

Copyleft: Shouldn’t you know how many states we have if you want to be presdient?

By Shrugging Atlas

September 16, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

Great post Suzanne, but unfortunately you will never get a logical response to such great questions.

By Carbon Footprint

September 16, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Markets seem stable….they pan the floor of the exchange over on CNBC all day long, and with HDTV, I can read what’s on the stockbroker’s screens, and most of the guys I’m noticing are blogging about sarah palin, so panic is not part of this morning’s action.

Here’s a smattering of what I’ve managed to glean by squinting my eyes: “I wonder if they’re selling blow up doll look-a-likes of Palin yet……My wife has already got the glasses, she’s getting the wig next and should be ready for the weekend…….Utube claims to have a girls gone wild lesbo outtake of Sarah in college, but I dont believe a word of it….nothing good will ever happen to me……

See? No panic on wallstreet. The country is saved.

Hooray for Sarah!

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 16, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

I see the usual hate filled hatchet faced bloviating Stalinist parrots have all had their daily dose of Hussein Obama Krystal Meth Koolaid and have puked up the usual uber tedious slobbering treasonous lies and venom.

It is hugely amusing to see it everyday though, as these ever more desperate lefty wankpigs know that the game is up and a defeated Hussein Obama will light up the sky coast to coast with embittered elitist uppity desperate excuses on Guy Fawkes Day !!

@ the snivelling MoRoN who whined and wimpered @ O’Reilly’s pandering glossing over the harsh truth @ Hussein Obama’s drunken alcoholic whisky soaked abusive pappy.

THE TRUTH WILL SET U FREE!!!

The bigamist Obama sr lost his legs in a whisky fuelled car crash in AfriKa, and then died a few years later in another whisky fuelled car crash. He was a deadbeat father who left his young black afriKan with child WIFE for a naive white nutty hippy chick who he also married - ILLEGALLY - with NO divorce. O’Reilly shamefully glossed over these IRREFUTABLE FACTS. Cited in an English newspaper and in Dr Corsi’s excellent, meticulously researched New Yawwwwk Slimes bestselling book. Obama has several half bruthas because his whisky addicted pappy put it about. O’Reilly also forgot to mention this fact!!

SEE HOW FOX NEWS LIES AND GLOSSES OVER THE COLD HARSH TRUTH!!

The day AFTER Hussein Obama pukes up all kinds of witless, utterly disingenuous LIES and empty cliches about the :failing” economy and Lehmans and Merrill Lynch and how the “failing economy” is hurting ordinary folks it gets on a private jet to go hob nob with the Hollywood limousine liberal vermin at $31,000 for a “dinner” and a Bush hate nasal whining session with the big nosed butchbulldyke Streisand.

So Hussein Obama is in Kalifornia tonite watching elite Bush Derangement Syndrome liberal scum shelling out for one evening of Bush hate MORE than the po folks the half-black black racist surrender monkey pretends to care about EARN IN A YEAR.

$31,000 for a ticket.

These same po folks who Hussein Obama DESPICABLY LIES ABOUT every single day with the Goebbels like oafish porkies “95% of people will get a tax cut under my dicktatorship of the proletariat”

Only problem is @ 45% of working folks DO NOT even pay income tax!! The Hussein Obama lying machine is as ‘Hitleresque’ as it gets!!!

By Shrugging Atlas

September 16, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

Did everyone see this? McCain adviser: BlackBerry a ‘miracle’ he ‘helped create’ Coming from a guy who doesn’t even use email, or know how to for that matter, I thought this was in line with the outright lies and exagerations the Repugnants are so well known for. Funny how the repugs went after Gore for his “internet” comment. McSame was wearing depends and worrying about the early-bird special at the senior center when the internet was starting.

By dirty harry

September 16, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Abraham Lincoln once said “I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts.”

Sarah Palin has already shown the American people that she believes that those in government should be shielded from scrutiny. She believes facts are mere annoyances and lies and innuendo are the stuff campaigns should be made of.

Wake up…This is nothing more than what we have had for 8 years.

Bush/Cheney=McCain/palin=MORE OF THE SAME

GOOD GRIEF!!!

By Carbon Footprint

September 16, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

It was a good post, yes, atlas, but to which point should a logical response come?

You all better check out the cover of Newsweek before you comment again. Sarah’s invulnerable. America’s sick of Obama. He’s had his fifteen minutes. it’s Sarah’s turn.

Dont hog the fifteen minutes, Obama, your clock has a cuckoo in it.

Sarah 08: America’s Makeover

By Copyleft

September 16, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Peadawg: Shouldn’t you know a Sunni from a Shiite if you want to fight terrorism?

Shouldn’t you know a little about where our troops are deployed if you want to be Commander-in-Chief?

Shouldn’t you provide a more meaningful example than a single misstatement in a single speech if you want to make an intelligent point?

By Ryan

September 16, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Palin’s views frighten me. The American education system is bad, and she wants to make it worse by teaching creationism in schools…. Are you kidding me. I could never vote for someone who is dumb enough to believe that, much less someone who want to force feed lies to our children.

By Carbon Footprint

September 16, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Shouldn’t you?

By Drew

September 16, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

The level of this ‘debate’ is depressing. We’re doomed.

By Shrugging Atlas

September 16, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Carbon Footprint, again, continue to tell yourself whatever you have to so you can look in the mirror in the morning. Like you repugnants have always said, it’s not about fame. Obama doesn’t want fame and you all know it, he wants to help people. McPalin, just want to help themselves and their corporate/oil bed-buddies. Democrats speak of “we” and “us”, repugnants spout “I” and “mine”. They are the party of selfishness and what’s mine is mine. No worries here on the dems side, that’s all your party trying to convince themselves everything is ok. Palins star is fadeing and her 5 minutes are ending. She may be a pitbull with lipstick, but wait until we see that dog in the morning with no makeup. Run for the hills!!

By Peadawg

September 16, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Copyleft: typical democrat…doesn’t dispute anything I say and answers every question w/ a question

By ButtHead

September 16, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla, I think that you failed math. 50% of American’s pay 0% of the taxes and the top 5% of income earners pay over 60% of the taxes. If you work, which I doubt, have you ever gotten a job from a poor person? If you tax the wealthy, which according to Obama is over $30,000 single $60,000 married then your taxes will go up. So please Mrs. Godzilla please tell us how taxes on 95% of us will go up? Under Obama it will, the only promise he is trying to keep. Let’s raise the corporate tax; we are number 2, the second highest in the world. Obama wants to be # 1. What an idiot, just watch the jobs leave America if Obama get elected.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Dear Eric @ 11:00 and Ray @ 11:23, I think you hit the target, great arguments.

Dear Findog @ 11:18, I agree with your analysis. My only addition, the CRA is more than red-lining – banks that do not serve the “lower- and moderate” segments of their narrowly defined “community” are punished by the regulators in numerous ways. Note the difference is not merely “impermissible refusal to lend,” but “failure to affirmatively lend.” CRA is far more insidious that the clumsy and effectively-meaningless HMDA. I do not particularly fault the banks on the mortgages – they merely repackaged loans and sold them without recourse through the accommodating government facilities, picking up the gold nuggets laid in the street by the Congress. However, those who bet big on the housing bubble, by loans to developers, will die a slow death over the next 18 months. Sounds like a golden opportunity for an attorney who has some regulatory expertise.

Dear hypocrite @ 11:43, your post is dishonest. I saw O’Reilly last night. The segment showed Obama’s personal triumph over a hard early life, comparing his social progress with Bill Clinton’s. Your bizarre post suggests that Obama had all of the advantages of a stable and loving home, and that is not true. He suffered instability and rejection, and has to be admired as a self-made man, notwithstanding whatever limitations he may have.

Dear Jason @ 11:59, the two belief systems are not incompatible, viz Ronaldus Maximus. You ignore Sarah’s veto of the homosexual legislation, as that would destroy your false argument.

Dear Common @ 12:08, your argument is true as far as it goes, but you ignore the obverse. The SEC never had rules on subprime loans – SEC regulates securities only. The executive sought to rein in FNMA and FHLMC, by limiting taxpayer exposure, but was blocked by a handful of democrats in Congress, politicians in the pockets of FNMA and FHLMC. The executive has no power without consent of Congress.

Dear andthensome @ 12:16, easy, hire the one with leadership experience – the Naval officer. Lawyers are only good for stirring up arguments and emotions.

By Peadawg

September 16, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

Copyleft…meaningful statement? The man doesn’t know how many states there are, yet he wants to be president. thats pretty meaningful to me.

By scott

September 16, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Time reveals all things and the more Palin “ducks and dodges” facing real questions the less of a quandry she will be. This woman is in above her head, not because she is a woman but because she is not equip to run Gwinnett, let alone become VP.

By Doc

September 16, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

“a blend of smart, independent and accessible woman that women could relate to and the good ol’ girl the men would like in the F-150 beside them on way to the hunt. ” Well, there you go. Except I’d not be caught in a Ford, but the point is valid.

Here are two other valid points: Mrs. (not “Ms.”) Palin is more qualified to be on the ticke than the top of the Democrat ticket is. For any office. Mrs. Palin does not take the “experience” argument off the table—she highlights Obama’s lack of same.

The economy? It was humming along reasonably well—despite 9/11, which should have tanked us—until two years ago. Let’s see, what else happened two years ago? Oh yes…Democrats took control of Congress. Coincidence? I thnk not!

By Thespis

September 16, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Geez Wooten,

There is a full scale economic crisis going on, gas prices are once again at $4.00, and there are National Guardsmen that can’t get food or water and you just keep beating this dead horse.

TALK ABOUT SOME ISSUES THAT MATTER D##MNIT

By Doc

September 16, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

“a blend of smart, independent and accessible woman that women could relate to and the good ol’ girl the men would like in the F-150 beside them on way to the hunt. ” Well, there you go. Except I’d not be caught in a Ford, but the point is valid.

Here are two other valid points: Mrs. (not “Ms.”) Palin is more qualified to be on the ticke than the top of the Democrat ticket is. For any office. Mrs. Palin does not take the “experience” argument off the table—she highlights Obama’s lack of same.

The economy? It was humming along reasonably well—despite 9/11, which should have tanked us—until two years ago. Let’s see, what else happened two years ago? Oh yes…Democrats took control of Congress. Coincidence? I thnk not!

By hotlanta

September 16, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Wooten take the movie Gone With the Wind and come outta the Fallout Shelter. (Remember that) It’s a new sherriff in town it is ova!!!!!!!

By hotlanta

September 16, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Wooten take the movie Gone With the Wind and come outta the Fallout Shelter. (Remember that) It’s a new sherriff in town it is ova!!!!!!!

By ghost rider

September 16, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

RAGNAR

You say this

“Dear andthensome @ 12:16, easy, hire the one with leadership experience – the Naval officer. Lawyers are only good for stirring up arguments and emotions.

Wasn’t Kerry a naval officer?

Who did you vote for? Thought so!

By Tray

September 16, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Uhhh…for all of those bad mouthing me…FYI-i don’t work 2 jobs anymore!! I worked hard, got myself recognized, and got off my lazt butt to do it. I was in the lower class, but DIDN’T LIVE OFF GOV’T HANDOUTS!! That’s the difference…Obama isn’t for the poor, he’s for the lazy. The only people who are poor are the ones who choose not to work their hardest or best!

By Jim is a caveman

September 16, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

The only quandry for me is how Jim can write the same column every day and still get paid for it.

By fearless fosdik

September 16, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

TRAY…

Isn’t there somebody who needs service at the drive by window?

By knowledge based

September 16, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

Anybody else find it ironic how Barack Obama’s team is comprised of two former Fannie Mae managers? Is that the competence we have to look forward to under a Teleprompter Administration? Just at the top three recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac campaign contributions between 1989-2008, and keep in mind how long, well short really, Barack has been in office:

Dodd, Christopher $165,400

Obama, Barack $126,349

Kerry, John $111,000

Quite interesting. An institution predominately concocted by Democrats, implemented by Democrats, supported by Democrats, and run into the ground by Democrat ideas like helping the poor and lower classes join in the American dreams of owning a home.

And McCain is right: the economic foundations of this nation are sound. You cannot have an economic foundation of taxing individuals and companies to death to redistribute as government allocates. The home market went poof, and the writing was on the wall some time ago as Republicans warned about the Maes:

Quite interesting. An institution predominately concocted by Democrats, implemented by Democrats, supported by Democrats, and run into the ground by Democrat ideas like helping the poor and lower classes join in the American dreams of owning a home.

And McCain is right: the economic foundations of this nation are sound. You cannot have an economic foundation of taxing individuals and companies to death to redistribute as government allocates. The home market went poof, and the writing was on the wall some time ago as Republicans warned about the Maes.

“That mission of creating affordable housing is the reason that Alan Greenspan, the former Federal Reserve chairman, could testify, year after year, that Fannie and Freddie had become so large, and took so much risk, that they could one day damage the nation’s financial system — only to be utterly ignored by the same members of Congress who otherwise hung on his every word.”

“The mission is why Representative Barney Frank, the powerful, and usually clear-eyed, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, will defend Fannie and Freddie even now, when their misdeeds are so clear. The mission is why the two companies were able to run roughshod over their regulator for years, and why the Bush administration was unable to rein them in, even after an accounting scandal.”

“The country doesn’t even need Fannie and Freddie to help with affordable housing. Several laws mandate that banks reinvest in the communities in which they operate — and that mandate has come to be defined largely as making loans available for affordable housing.”

Vote for Obama and Mr. No Money In Bank Biden for more of these Chicken Roosting policies!

By Obama Man

September 16, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

Excuse me Mr. Wooten, but I do not believe that Sara Palin is on the mine of most Americans during this time of disaster and economic woe. Maybe we can now focus on America’s future instead of the Lencrafters model. I want to know what both Obama and McCain intend to do about the economy.God works in mysterios ways and I feel that is what is happening at present.

Please write about something else like white on white crime or white leadership. I have read enough about black on black crime and black leadership. Keep it fair and balanced.

By abc

September 16, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

You must be joking.

McCain had my vote in the bag, but a couple weeks of Palin have convinced me to vote against her. She mustn’t come within a mile of the Oval office. Suddenly, McCain’s goodness doesn’t matter much compared to his impending mortality.

Who’d have thought! My vote for President will be a vote against a Vice Presidential candidate!

By knowledge based

September 16, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

Anybody else find it ironic how Barack Obama’s team is comprised of two former Fannie Mae managers? Is that the competence we have to look forward to under a Teleprompter Administration? Just at the top three recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac campaign contributions between 1989-2008, and keep in mind how long, well short really, Barack has been in office:

Dodd, Christopher $165,400

Obama, Barack $126,349

Kerry, John $111,000

Quite interesting. An institution predominately concocted by Democrats, implemented by Democrats, supported by Democrats, and run into the ground by Democrat ideas like helping the poor and lower classes join in the American dreams of owning a home.

And McCain is right: the economic foundations of this nation are sound. You cannot have an economic foundation of taxing individuals and companies to death to redistribute as government allocates. The home market went poof, and the writing was on the wall some time ago as Republicans warned about the Maes:

Quite interesting. An institution predominately concocted by Democrats, implemented by Democrats, supported by Democrats, and run into the ground by Democrat ideas like helping the poor and lower classes join in the American dreams of owning a home.

And McCain is right: the economic foundations of this nation are sound. You cannot have an economic foundation of taxing individuals and companies to death to redistribute as government allocates. The home market went poof, and the writing was on the wall some time ago as Republicans warned about the Maes.

“That mission of creating affordable housing is the reason that Alan Greenspan, the former Federal Reserve chairman, could testify, year after year, that Fannie and Freddie had become so large, and took so much risk, that they could one day damage the nation’s financial system — only to be utterly ignored by the same members of Congress who otherwise hung on his every word.”

“The mission is why Representative Barney Frank, the powerful, and usually clear-eyed, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, will defend Fannie and Freddie even now, when their misdeeds are so clear. The mission is why the two companies were able to run roughshod over their regulator for years, and why the Bush administration was unable to rein them in, even after an accounting scandal.”

“The country doesn’t even need Fannie and Freddie to help with affordable housing. Several laws mandate that banks reinvest in the communities in which they operate — and that mandate has come to be defined largely as making loans available for affordable housing.”

Vote for Obama and Mr. No Money In Bank Biden for more of these Chicken Roosting policies!

By Tray

September 16, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Funny, when i worked 2 jobs, i was a retail department manager by day, bartender by night. I’ve never worked in a fast food chain, and the dim-wits are missing my point. Hit ctrl+f and search my name and actually read with comprehension this time. I WOULD WORK 2, 3, hell, 4 JOBS BEFORE I LET MY HOUSE BE FORECLOSED ON!!! I’m not one to sit there and watch everything i’ve worked hard for slip away-laziness.

Right now i work 1 well paying job, and can blog at work because i already had my work done because i’m that good…not like most of you sitting at home unemployed because you’re too ‘proud’ to work fast food or anything below you…

Vote Obama-make the poor wealthy by giving them YOUR hard earned money!

By Tray

September 16, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Right on knowledge based

The top execs from Freddie and Fannie now work with Obama…hmmm…

Why don’t all you pro-Obama people do some research on that to find out who Barack really cares about. Give you a hint-it’s NOT YOU, whether black, white, rich or poor.

By GOPs got to go

September 16, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

The only quandary I am in right now is over your decision to ignore the financial meltdown that happened yesterday and write this stupid column instead.

By Shrugging Atlas

September 16, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

Worth the read

A Veteran’s Case Against John McCain

This November will mark the second time that I have been eligible to vote in a presidential election. I was barely nineteen years old when it came time to cast my ballot in 2004. Like any other teenager, I was clueless about the world of politics. I read only the front page of newspapers. I didn’t know what a blog was, much less read them. It’s safe to say that I was in the realm of the uninformed but not undecided; my parents were voting for George W. Bush. I shook his hand at a 5K in Dallas when he was still my governor. I figured that was good enough.

My vote wasn’t cast in a school gym or a courthouse. I filled out my absentee ballot on the floor of my company area in the closing weeks of basic infantry training at Ft. Benning, Georgia. Though our superiors were to remain apolitical during the process and not recommend one candidate over another, it was our first foray into the belief that the military heavily favors conservatives. They told us how badly in shape Bill Clinton left the Army, and any liberal was sure to do it again. My drill sergeant, “Hurricane” Harris, told us the news of who won in an unusual way. He asked those who voted for Kerry to raise their hands. A few hands went up in an embarrassingly slow movement. “Well, he didn’t win!” Hurricane proclaimed with a laugh. Most of us breathed a sigh of relief.

With an entire enlistment and a fifteen month tour in Iraq behind me, I’m a bit more in tune with politics and the candidates than I was four years ago. I consume news and information at an obsessive rate, but my attention is focused on veteran’s issues and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I don’t care about Obama’s smugness or McCain’s ridiculous amount of houses. I don’t give a $hit about Michelle’s lack of patriotism or Cindy getting high on her own supply of painkillers. In the end, it comes down to the treatment of veterans and what to do with those sticky territories where we still have American soldiers under fire.

I really want to like John McCain. He gets automatic points for being a fellow veteran and his well-known experience of a POW for 5 1/2 years. He should know the VA system like the back of his hand, I imagine. But by the belief that conservatives will always have the military in the tank, they can afford to burn us when it comes to pro-veteran and pro-military legislation. Even if some of us notice their betrayals, we still make up a tiny constituency. To them, we don’t hold any sway. Otherwise they wouldn’t treat us like scraggly dogs - smacking our nose after tossing us the table scraps.

There are plenty of minuses in the column of John McCain regarding these issues, but I’ll cover the main reasons he has turned me away from his vote this year.

This is the big one, the vote where veterans watched with bated breath to see if a new GI Bill would replace the outdated and underwhelming education benefits package. The outcome was literally going to change lives. With its passing, veterans could attend any school they want and have it paid for. If it was struck down, only a fraction of tuition costs would be covered. It came to no surprise that the bill was extraordinarily well received by politicians in an election year, but there were a few unsurprising holdouts. President Bush and his administration opposed it as being overly generous. My own senator, John Cornyn, opposed it for the same reason. When I called his office to learn why, his aide offered nothing more than it would encourage too many people to leave the service (that claim was later destroyed by the same report they cited). Cornyn stood by McCain as he offered his own watered down, toothless counter-bill, an insult to veterans who didn’t luck out and land a slot in a military academy. It was a pathetic attempt to derail popular support for Webb’s bill.

When the time to vote came, only two senators sat it out. One of them was Ted Kennedy, at home recovering from his brain surgery. The other was John McCain. He managed to miss the vote not once but twice, his maverick image tarnished by not taking a stand with a vote after publicly opposing the bill. Much to the chagrin of Bush and McCain, the GI Bill passed resoundingly. But what followed after that was even more outrageous. Forgetting about the newfangled internet, McCain went out and took credit for the GI Bill, using the imaginary transferability issue to claim victory.

A lot of people put work into the bill. Politicians like Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel wrote and carried the bill under fire from Bush. Veteran’s organizations like Vote Vets, IAVA, the VFW and American Legion helped to raise public awareness about the bill and lobby Washington. McCain, on the other hand, had a simple choice: to stand with fellow veterans and get the bill done, or side with the conservatives he hoped to woo in the election. Clearly, he went with the latter while taking the credit of the former.

For the life of me, I can’t recall John McCain having any sensible plan for Afghanistan, a place more dangerous per capita than Iraq and with a fraction of the troops. While the surge brigades crowded Baghdad, Afghanistan demanded attention that still has not been met. Obama has pledged at least two brigades to be sent there, a decision that would immediately ease the chaos on the porous border with Pakistan. McCain cannot make that same pledge; those brigades would be tied up in Iraq waiting for that ever so vague moment of victory. We’re starting to see the price of not enough eyes on the objective when bombs start falling. Our resources are elsewhere, and that hinders American forces in Afghanistan that are trying to keep a lid on escalating violence.

I’ll let the numbers speak for themselves here. IAVA scored legislative voting in 2006 after identifying what would benefit active duty servicemen and veterans. McCain gets a D, Obama a B+. It’ll be interesting when they release the 2008 scores this fall. To read up on the methodology and to see a bunch of (R)s get Ds, download this document.

A little less damning is the Disabled American Veteran’s group scoring, simply “with us” and “against us.” John McCain scored 11 with us and 16 against us, with 5 not scored. And Obama? 17-1-1.

This issue is almost baffling in its simplicity. Obama’s plan to get out of Iraq is pretty similar to what the Iraqis want. McCain opposes this, insisting on a blank check approach. There is no telling if McCain would reverse any agreement made by the two governments on a definite date of departure.

Some might suggest that I should vote for McCain because he is a fellow veteran. These are the same people that suggested Kerry was a bad choice four years ago. Despite his many, many detractions, he still set foot in Vietnam when his opponent did not. Though Obama hasn’t served, he has proven to have a positive impact when it comes to veterans. I admire McCain’s past, but I cast much doubt on his vision of the future.

By dirty harry

September 16, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

By knowledge based

September 16, 2008 1:39 PM

Knowledge Based … to your point!

At least 20 McCain fundraisers have lobbied on behalf of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, netting at least $12.3 million in fees over the past nine years.

And for years, Rick Davis served as president of an advocacy group led by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that defended the two companies against increased regulation.

And, who is RICK DAVIS? Oh, Yea! McCain’s presidential campaign manager!

You can skew this anywhich you want, but the bottom line is both campaigns are well-entrenched with freddie and Fannie!

Now the truth didn’t hurt, did it?

By Tuffy, the Airborne Soldier

September 16, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

INCREDIBLE. THE ECONOMY IS GOING IN THE TANK AND HERE WE ARE DISCUSSING A TRAILER PARK HEROINE AND THE CONTINUAL LIES THAT FLY FROM HER LIPS.

PEOPLE IF YOU DON’T WANT TO VOTE FOR O’BAMA, THEN MAN UP AND SAY YOU’RE NOT BECAUSE HE’S BLACK. DON’T INSULT US ANY LONGER WITH McCAIN/PALIN BEING BETTER CANDIDATES. YOU’RE ALL JUST AFRAID OF A BLACK MAN WITH A PLAN.

INCREDIBLE. TYPICAL. EXPECTED.

TELL ME WHAT OBAMA HAS LIED ABOUT. I’LL WAIT…..

McCAIN/PALIN LIE CONSTANTLY!!!

By What USA Needs

September 16, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

The reason we are in this mess is because the USA is not competing well in the World economy. The collaps of banks/mortg lenders, increase gas prices, & failed businesses are all symptoms of our inability to compete globally. It is becoming ever increasingly too expensive to start or keep a business in the USA. Businesses are leaving USA in boat loads. They would like to be here but they simply do much better financially in other countries. 3 primary reasons USA economy can’t compete well: USA taxes are increasingly too high for business (essentially creating a socialist economy thru wealth redistribution), USA labor is too expensive (a laundry list of reasons for this but a major contributor is government interference in the free market), and finally, we have increasingly fewer natural or other resources to market in a global economy (we are increasingly consumers, not producers). If these 3 issues are not addressed dramatically, our economy will continue to become weaker, it will get much worse before it gets better. All personalities aside, the party that best responds to these 3 issues is the party USA desperately needs. We must have lower taxes especially on businesses(combined w/ decrease gov spending), less government regulation & interference in the free market economy, and utilize/market our available natural resources in a responsible way. Honestly, which candidate best answers these concerns?

By getalife

September 16, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

Here is a con finally sapeaking the truth

I challenge party over country jim to do the same.

By fearless fosdik

September 16, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

TRAY

Let’s see, you claim to be done with your work, yet you started posting around 9:00 a.m.

If I were you I’d start looking around for some busy work!

People like you are replaced every day!

By findog

September 16, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Knowledge baseless @ 1:39 Based on your concoction theory, the Democrats prevented Freddie/Fannie from supporting the sub-prime mess, so where did these lower class people get their loans? The two government backed mortgage giants did not cause the mess the sub-prime loans inflated evaluations and now the over-priced inventory is not able to secure itself. It was the unregulated banking sector and not F&F who is guilty. I believe the Republicans [Bush] told the people to go on vacation and keep shopping, when did they raise the red flags for the private sector [un-regulated] home loan industry? However you and McCain are correct the fundamentals of the economy are sound, by the very weakest of standards. What you most certainly cannot have is a war, tax cuts, and great give-a-ways to the people with K-Street connections like corporate farmers and energy traders. So far all you’ve done is regurgitate long debunked talking points, what is the plan to fix the solution other than shake up Washington? Sounds Carteresque to me.

Good day sir

By Obama Man

September 16, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

Knowlege based,

Do you really believe as McCain does that our economy is on a sound foundation? Your over simplification that democrats are at fault is astounding. Both republicans, democrats and lobbyist on the beltway are in this. Also , don’t forget the global market which is not shy in trying to take America down from our high horse. If the biggest insurer in the USA goes down(AIG), our economy will go even more in the tank. By the way, AIG insures bad mortgages. Is that why they are about to go under because they need cash? I suggest that you get your head out of the sand and your a* out of the wind.

By Tray

September 16, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

Fearless-yes, my work was done early, so i posted, then got more and did it, and posted again.

You see, when you get a desk job like i have now, and you’re as good a worker as i am now, then you’ll see that you may not work your butt off for 8 hours a day. ME? I work my butt off about 6 and get to play about 2…wow, paid to play!! Yup, that’s what happens when you bust @ss and get recognized all the time!

Oh, and we’re currently in some downtime too, maybe that helps! Never heard you mention one, or are you the unemployed type??

TUFF-drop the racial crap and grow up, then come post with the big boys…

I’m not voting for Obama because he’s an inexperience idiot, not because he’s black. In about 10 years, he can run again, have some platform of experience, then I could definately vote for him!

Since you accuse of not voting for him because he’s black, i can safely say that is the only reason you are voting for him, which means facts mean nothing to you because you’re too ignorant to realize them…

By GOPs got to go

September 16, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

Jim why not write a column on this tidbit?

For starters, the McCain health plan would treat employer-paid health benefits as income that employees would have to pay taxes on.

“It means your employer is going to have to make an estimate on how much the employer is paying for health insurance on your behalf, and you are going to have to pay taxes on that money,” said Sherry Glied, an economist who chairs the Department of Health Policy and Management at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health.

By getalife

September 16, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

Palin is failin. Two more cons turn on her:

Ross Douthat agrees at the Atlantic and Richard Cohen at WaPo.

“Palin supports $600 million ‘other’ bridge project.”

D’oh. Admit it jim and lets get back to the economy.

McLiar, the deregulator with Gramm, has flipped flopped and now wants to reform regulation.

Oh, the insanity.

By Filster

September 16, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Qualifications? Hmm, let’s see. Biden 36 years in Washington (no insider he). McCain, 26 years (sadly, ditto, but he has gone against the Republican party on occasion, has Biden ever denied the Dems?) Obama? Over 100 “Present” votes in Illinois and U.S. Senate. No waffler he. “Present.” Just the sort of leader we need. War looming in Iran? Present. Pakistan and Afganistan? Present? iran nukes Isreal? Present. Puh-leeeze. And then we have Palin. A governor. Let’s look at some recent governors turned presidents. Reagan. Clinton. I agree the sentiment, and the need, for change is great. But what are Obama’s qualifications here? Community organizer (and if I hear the Jesus thing one more time I’m going run the next care with an Obama 08 bumpersticker off the road… jk). A Senator who only votes present. A speaker who, withot a teleprompter, is buffoonish. What is the attraction here people, cause it certainly ain’t his qualifications.

By tcoach

September 16, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

Any Obama supporters want to comment on why he is 2nd in Fannie and Freddie contributions over the last 10 years, he has only been recieving them for a little over 2. Also does it make you feel safe that he has members that used to work for Fannie on his campaign staff as advisors?

Go ahead answer the questions with something that Palin or mcCain did. I know you will, but under no circumstances should you answer for the actions of teh chosen one, right?

By Devastator

September 16, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Gov. Sarah Palin may eventually have said “no thanks” to a federally funded Bridge to Nowhere.

But a bridge to her hometown of Wasilla, that’s a different story.

A $600 million bridge and highway project to link Alaska’s largest city to Palin’s town of 7,000 residents is moving full speed ahead, despite concerns the bridge could worsen some commuting and threaten a population of beluga whales.

Local officials already have spent $42 million on plans to route traffic across the Knik Arm inlet, a narrow finger of water extending roughly 25 miles northeast of Anchorage toward Wasilla. The proposal exists thanks to an earmark request by Republican Rep. Don Young, whose son-in-law has a small stake in property near the bridge’s proposed western span.

A Democratic council member in Anchorage will try Tuesday to spike the city’s sponsorship of the project, which Palin supports with some reservations.

“This is basically an incredibly expensive project that doesn’t help commuters, doesn’t help create jobs and may drive whales to extinction,” said Justin Massey, an attorney advising environmentalists opposed to the proposal. “It is also a project that serves the area where the governor is from, which is near and dear to her heart.”

The Knik Arm was one of two bridge proposals in Alaska awarded more than $450 million from lawmakers who requested money for special projects in 2005, when Young chaired the House Transportation Committee. Young, Alaska’s 18-term congressman, has said Alaska still lacks basic roads, railroads and bridges that were developed long ago in older and less spacious states.

At the time, Palin’s running mate for the Republican ticket, Arizona Sen. John McCain, derided both projects as wasteful. He called Young’s highway bill a “monstrosity” that was “terrifying in its fiscal consequences.”

“I want no part of this,” McCain said in a July 2005 statement. “This legislation is not — I emphasize not — my way of legislating.”

The governor initially championed the first so-called Bridge to Nowhere, which would have connected the southeastern Alaska town of Ketchikan to its airport on nearby Gravina Island. She later pulled the plug on the project after it became a national symbol of extravagant federal spending.

Palin’s record on the Bridge to Nowhere has emerged as a central point of controversy in the campaign over her recent public claims that she had opposed it, aligning herself with McCain’s anti-earmarks philosophy.

Palin still supports the second bridge, officially named Don Young’s Way in honor of the congressman. She called for a review of the bridge’s financing plans and raised concerns about its financial risks for the state. Still, the planning process is marching forward.

“Governor Palin’s demand for accountability and transparency around this project is exactly what she has called for across the board to ensure taxpayers’ dollars are being used wisely,” spokeswoman Maria Comella said.

Dianne Keller, who succeeded Palin as mayor in Wasilla, has said the new $600 million crossing could lower traffic congestion in the fast-growing community. A Federal Highway Administration study shows the project would cut down some area commutes, but could add to others as more people move to the suburbs.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Dear Ghostrider @ 1:26, almost a rational argument, my compliments. Given a choice of a man who spent 20 years as a naval officer or one whose most significant contribution to the world is as a “community organizer,” I would urge one to go with the experience. Given a choice of one who spent 93 days in the Navy (remember, Kerry was actually “naval reserve,” not that there is anything wrong with that) and who then disparaged those who served with him as war criminals, vs one who kept a respectful silence about his buddies, go with the one who tells the truth.

Dear Getalife @ 2:29, newsflash, Palin is not popular with the base because self-appointed uberlords on the right anointed her. Uberlords turning against her will also have no effect. You are confusing conservatives with the “cult” party.

By Devastator

September 16, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

Even Karl Rove had to admit yesterday that the McCain campaign’s lies and negative attacks have gone “too far.”

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Also this week, the McCain campaign continued to repeat a number of outrageous lies, even after watchdogs in the media called them “shamelessly misleading,” “thoroughly dishonest,” and “a toxic mix of lies and double-speak.”

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By Tray

September 16, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

not to mention Obama received funding from known terrorists, he dealt under the table with CONVICTED FELON Tony Rezko, he’s inexperienced (50-how many states?, the joint cheifs stop the war??-they have no power!)

Reporter: Obama, what do you think we should do about Russia??

Obama: Present!

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 16, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

TELL ME WHAT OBAMA HAS LIED ABOUT.

“95% of folks will get a tax cut …”

how the bloody hell can around 45% of people - who DO NOT pay income tax - get a tax cut??? A BAREFACED daily BLACK RACIST LIE!!!

he lied about his dead beat despicable AfriKan pappy who was an abusive whisky soaked bigamist. desperately trying to say pappy was the victim of “whitey”- NOT his own appalling behaviour.

he repeatedly LIES about Grand Cyclops J. Wright … “I was NEVER present for Grand Cyclops virulent racism … “NOT ONCE IN TWENTY YEARS!!! ha ha snigger snigger …

HUssein Obama LIED about the convicted felon slumlord Rezko and was finally forced to admit, months ago, that his relationship was much closer than he had previously admitted.

Watch Jackie Mason hammer the uppity supercilious half-black black racist for its LIES.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ5c6hxqXq4

BETTER STILL - THIS WEBSITE DOCUMENTS OVER 100 Obama LIES!!

Plus numerous awkward photos etc …

http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/05/documented-lie-50-obama-claimed-he-had.html

By Mrs. RepubLady

September 16, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

That’s right, Tray! Republicans only accept small legal donations from individual citizens only after they’ve been carefully screened to determine that they are the utmost in law-abiding, non-corrupt, good godly, church-going Americans. The GOP never took a dime from that Aussie billionaire media owner or that Moon cult character! Jack Abramoff doesn’t even exist! Anderson Cooper made him up! The GOP never took a dime from defense contractors in exchange for bleeding the treasury into their pockets with no-bid contracts that guarantee payment whether work is performed or not! LIES, I tell you! LIES! We’re the honest ones! stomp! stomp! stomp! Darn those librul communist terr’ist LIARS!

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 16, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

The ACTUAL TRUTH about Hussein Obama’s alcoholic bigamist bigot pappy:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-431908/A-drunk-bigot—US-Presidental-hopeful-HASNT-said-father-.html

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

September 16, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

spamalert @ 2:47

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITYBLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 16, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

he lied to me when he said he’d take it easy and use K-Y!!!

HUssein Obama lied when he said he loved me.

he is the lyingest snigger I’ve ever seen…and we all know that sniggers lie!

By tcoach

September 16, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

No Obama supporters with valid answers?????????????????????

By Tray

September 16, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

At least, to my knowledge thus far, McCain has not taken money from terrorists.

Obama even lied about giving it back!

That’s your future prez right there…

By PURE HONESTY

September 16, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

THE BEST AD OF THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN FOLKS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N-1-g90bW0

By Devastator

September 16, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

GOLDEN, Colo. - Republican presidential candidate John McCain on Tuesday blamed Wall Street’s financial turmoil on unchecked corporate greed. His Democratic opponent, Barack Obama, dismissed McCain’s call for a high-level commission to study the economic crisis as “passing the buck.”

The presidential campaigns argued over who would be best able to deal with the kinds of financial meltdowns that roiled the markets Monday and to prevent a similar crisis in the future. McCain proposed a review on the order of the one led by the Sept. 11 commission, the bipartisan panel that studied the events leading to the 2001 terrorist attacks.

“We need a 9/11 commission,” McCain said Tuesday on NBC’s “Today” show. “We need a commission to figure out what went wrong and how to fix it and I know we can do that and I’ll do it.”

Obama, campaigning in Golden, Colo., accused McCain of failing to offer concrete plans for dealing with economic issues.

“Sen. McCain offered up the oldest Washington stunt in the book. You pass the buck to a commission to study the problem,” Obama said. “This isn’t 9/11. We know how we got into this mess. What we need now is leadership that gets us out. I’ll provide it. John McCain won’t. And that’s the choice for Americans in this election.”

Obama continued to criticize McCain’s remark Monday that “the fundamentals of our economy are strong.” In a television ad released Tuesday, Obama’s campaign asks: “How can John McCain fix our economy if he doesn’t understand it’s broken?”

On Monday, a few hours after the remark about strong economic fundamentals, McCain backtracked and declared the economy to be in crisis. He also said that American workers and products — the “fundamentals” he claimed he was referring to earlier — were indeed sound but faced danger from greed and corruption.

“Those fundamentals are threatened, they are threatened and at risk, because some on Wall Street have treated Wall Street like a casino,” McCain said Monday at a town-hall meeting in Orlando, Fla.

In spite of a speedy rhetorical reversal, the Arizona senator was widely criticized for offering a seemingly upbeat outlook while the stock market was on its way to a loss of 500-plus points and new troubles arose for investment banks. Appearing on ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Tuesday, McCain said he had warned two years ago of a deteriorating and unacceptable situation and blamed “the old-boy network and the corruption in Washington.”

McCain offered no specific remedies during his appearances on the three network morning shows, though he said he agreed with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson that the government should not bail out American International Group Inc., the world’s largest insurer. AIG stock fell 61 percent on Monday and credit-rating agencies dropped its ratings amid worries that the deteriorating housing market was further undermining its finances.

By Peter

September 16, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Wow I didn’t realize until TODAY how Stupid McLost really is…….

WOW you Republicans would actually vote for a guy who is this stupid……well all should have guessed since he finished almost last in his graduation class.

One would think he would take the TIME to learn something………

“McCain has acknowledged that he doesn’t know how to use a computer and can’t send e-mail, one of the BlackBerry’s prime functions.”

Imagine that the guy is so STUPID he can’t use a computer……..and so lazy he won’t learn how to use one……. He must be a great communicator !

My 79 year old mother is computer savvy !

HA HA HA …….YES McLost is really in touch with TODAY’S WORLD…….. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!

MORON !!!!!!! And you Lemmings would vote for a guy who is sooooooooooo out of touch with REALITY !!!!!!!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Devastator

September 16, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

The first of 100 reasons not to vote for McCain:

*Skipped over a dozen votes on Iraq in the Senate. (source) *”Because I know that as successful as I believe we will be, and I believe that the success will be fairly easy, we will still lose some American young men or women. ” (source) *”We’re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad. We may have to take out buildings, but we’re not going to have a bloodletting of trading American bodies for Iraqi bodies. ” (source) *”But the point is that, one, we will win this conflict. We will win it easily. ” (source) *”But I believe, Katie, that the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators. ” (source) *”It’s clear that the end is very much in sight. ” (source) *Was indirectly responsible for the deaths of 21 shopkeepers in Baghdad’s Shorja marketplace, after visiting and saying it was perfectly safe. (source) *”There are neighborhoods in Baghdad where you and I could walk through those neighborhoods today. ” (source) *”General Petraeus goes out there [Iraq] almost everyday in an unarmored Humvee. ” (source) *”I meant that there are neighborhoods that are safe in Iraq, and he does go out into Baghdad, and the fact is there has been significant progress…” (source) *”I’m not say that they [VIPs] could go without protection. The president goes around America with protection. So I certainly didn’t say that. ” (source) *Unidentified Reporter: “[On 26 Mar] You said there are areas in Baghdad that you can walk around freely.” McCain: “Yeah, I just came from one. ” (source) *McCain’s escort through Shorja was 100+ soldiers, sniper teams, 10 armored humvees, 3 blackhawk helicopters, 2 apache gunships, predator drone coverage; McCain was wearing a bulletproof vest and allowed to take off his helmet only when authorized. (source) *Says that Obama can’t understand Iraq since he hasn’t been there since 2006. (source) *Voted against extending troop deployment times in the USA to match deployment times in Iraq. (source) *Voted against repealing a capital gains tax cut which would have funded soldiers. (source) *Voted consistently from 2003-2007 against additional funding for Walter Reed Army Medical Center. (source 1, source 2, source 3) *Voted to table a bill that would have provided funding and equipment for Guard and Reserve units. (source) *Voted against additional funding for the mental health care of troops. (source) *Actively opposed the GI Bill that would increase education benefits to soldiers; was one of three senators who didn’t vote on it; one was in the hospital and one was at a funeral; he was campaigning. (source) *When asked if he had an idea of when troops would be coming home, said “No, but that’s not too important. What’s important is the casualties in Iraq. (source)

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 16, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITYBLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 16, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

he lied to me when he said he’d take it easy and use K-Y!!!

HUssein Obama lied when he said he loved me.

he is the lyingest snigger I’ve ever seen…and we all know that sniggers lie!

I see the anal anally funny cyber stalKKKer is back!!! With its usual sick and perverted homo queeralicious bollux.

Nice to see how EASY it is to wind scum like this up!!

HUGE I HATE UPPITY BLACK RACISTS SNIGGER

BTW U far left racist dickweeds … recently watching the BBC Xmas 2007 special of the family comedy To The Manor Born the term I was delighted to see sniggering is used as part of the script, as is perfectly proper in proper English. The far left pandering, always glossing over ever increasing violent black crime in the UK, multi-culti BBC would NOT allow snigger on its airwaves if it was anything other than perfectly acceptable use of English … time to GFY - again!!

By Stop Pretending!

September 16, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

FYI

Obama, Durbin propose federal mortgage reforms Wednesday, February 15, 2006 Printable FormatCHICAGO TRIBUNE By David Jackson

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) proposed a sweeping set of federal reforms Tuesday to combat mortgage fraud, ratcheting up enforcement and creating a national database of brokers who have been disciplined.

Obama’s bill would increase funding for federal law enforcement programs, create new criminal penalties for mortgage professionals found guilty of fraud and require industry insiders to report suspicious activity.

Mortgage fraud is “robbing thousands of Americans of their dream of homeownership, and costing the mortgage industry hundreds of millions of dollars each year,” Obama said. “Congress needs to come to the table and do its part.”

Obama and the bill’s co-sponsor, Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), said they were moved to act by a recent Tribune series on mortgage fraud, in which swindlers use high-tech identity theft and face-to-face scams to wrest control of homes, then secure hefty bank loans that go unpaid.

Illinois Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan and state lawmakers introduced their own reforms in Springfield following the series. During the last five years, FBI reports of mortgage fraud have soared across the U.S.

A Tribune analysis of some 500 Chicago-area cases showed the scams disproportionately affect low-income neighborhoods, where they leave abandoned homes and displaced families. Drug-dealing gangs have adopted the white-collar crime, the paper found, even as lending companies found themselves enmeshed in fraud schemes.

Obama’s bill would authorize $10 million more for anti-mortgage fraud programs in the Departments of Justice and Housing and Urban Development.

It also would require the FBI to update bankers on fraudulent activity in a formal, systematic way. Today, real estate attorneys, companies and trade groups rely on several industry Web sites that use news articles and government press releases to disseminate fraud reports from across the country.

And the bill would establish a national database of mortgage professionals who have been sanctioned by state or federal regulatory agencies.

Several features of the proposed legislation may win consensus because they previously have been embraced by real estate industry groups and law enforcement agencies.

The FBI already has called for mandatory fraud reporting by real estate industry professionals along with safe harbor from liability for those whistle-blowers. A similar system is in place in the banking industry.

Other aspects of the bill could be opposed by real estate and banking interests, experts said.

One provision of the measure would strengthen the ability of fraud victims to file federal lawsuits. Individuals now must seek redress in state courts, which have more restrictive rules about information gathered during discovery, said Peter J. Henning, a Wayne State University Law School professor.

Henning said that could increase the liability banks and real estate companies face for their employees’ misconduct.

“I suspect there would be opposition to that provision,” Henning said.

Others wonder whether the bill fails to cover a large population of unlicensed counselors and operators who commit fraud.

“This law won’t reach people outside the mortgage lending institutions,” said California attorney Rachel Dollar.

But the growing cost of mortgage fraud—lenders suffered more than $1 billion in losses last year—has convinced many industry groups that it must be addressed somehow.

“Folks in the mortgage industry are suddenly concerned about fraud, because they’re losing money too,” said Ira Rheingold, executive director of the National Association of Consumer Advocates, a group of public-interest attorneys who support the legislation.

“The series in your paper about drug dealers moving into mortgage fraud is proof positive that is where criminal money is to be made,” Durbin said. “Major financial institutions have to be a little embarrassed by their past. This is their chance.”

Obama’s proposed bill, written in consultation with the Treasury Department, Madigan and Chicago police, would authorize increased federal funding for mortgage counseling. It also would grant funding to the state agencies that license and monitor appraisers and other real estate professionals.

“We view this as a very exciting development,” said Timothy Reiniger of the National Notary Association.

Update Reuters 2007: Obama Reintroduces Legislation on Mortgage Fraud Wednesday, April 25, 2007

WASHINGTON - Illinois Senator Barack Obama introduced legislation Wednesday that would set a national standard for mortgage fraud and outline penalties for fraudsters.

In a statement, the Illinois Democrat and presidential hopeful said the legislation was needed as the housing market is shaken by failed mortgages among subprime borrowers with damaged credit.

“As the number of foreclosures skyrockets and the housing market becomes more vulnerable, we must establish stiff penalties to deter fraud and protect consumers against abusive lending practices,” Obama said.

Obama introduced a version of the same bill in the last Congress in February 2006 but it made no headway in the Republican-controlled legislature.

By Dusty

September 16, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

My goodness, does this crowd also like mud wrestling?? Or just slinging it?

NO MUD WRESTLING! No long posts. Anybody posting over four paragraphs and then repeating it three times should be BANNED from any further contributions. FOREVER!

This is supposed to be a political blog, NOT ANESTHESIA! NO propaganda from headquarters either!! No rearranging facts!

So here’s my THOROUGLY investigated factual opinion with no links! McCain and Palin are going to win the election!! Start up the band! Americans sigh with happiness and RELIEF!!! YESSSSSSSS!

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 16, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

@ Peter PecKKKer

ur despicable post about some old drooling senile 79 year slapper is as vile as it gets bubbaturd!!

McCain is UNABLE to use a PC and type because of his torture injuries sustained at the yellowbellied hands of Hanoi Jane’s best buddies!!

NOW stick that crack pipe where the sun don’t shine!!!

By Tell It Like It Is

September 16, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Looks like McCain’s republican bloggers have decided to crash Mr. Wootens blog with some very negative comments. The comments show signs of concern. Judging from the way McCain and Palin are falling on their faces, they probably have good reason to be concerned.

By hotlanta

September 16, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

9/11 Commission. Why is he/Guiliani still pimping 9/11. Most of those folks got big checks instead of a $2000.00 gift card. A lot of them are living a lot better after 9/11 than the folks who got hit with Katrina. Wake up Grandpa.

By hotlanta

September 16, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

9/11 Commission. Why is he/Guiliani still pimping 9/11. Most of those folks got big checks instead of a $2000.00 gift card. A lot of them are living a lot better after 9/11 than the folks who got hit with Katrina. Wake up Grandpa.

By Devastator

September 16, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

duh,

The context that you are using snigger is a play on the N word. You would not be continually using it if it wasn’t. You are a racist lonely starved for attention loser who thinks people are stupid enough to fall for your tricks. No one can reach you other than on this blog so you get your revenge on your pathetic parents and the bullies you’ve encountered throughout your life by anonimously attacking total strangers on a newspaper blog.

You can respond all you want with dictionary quotes and your usual gay and idiotic rants but the fact is: YOU WOULD NOT BE USING THAT WORD IN THE CONTEXT THAT YOU ARE USING IT IF OBAMA’S RACE WAS NOT INVOLVED.

Go find someone stupid enough to believe you and play with you Nazi!!

By Peter

September 16, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Yeah, but he could use voice-activated software if he wasn’t so STOOOOOOPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, talk about my mama again and watch what happens freak. I’ll starting crying, I swear. I may even say mean things about you.

By Peter

September 16, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

Gee Dusty…………

By Dusty

September 16, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

My goodness, does this crowd also like mud wrestling?? Or just slinging it?

Dusty you actually know how to use a computer…..McLost apparently doesn’t……..

Personally it sounds to me like you are a better choice for President then McLost !

Can you imagine the day when a world leader says to McLost…send me an e-mail we can discuss the matter………

I guess he is going to stand there looking STUPID………. Duhhhhhhhhhh how do I send you an e-mail sir ?

This is a WORLD LEADER……… NOT !!!!!!!!!

This is a guy in touch in TODAY’S WORLD…… NOT !!!!!

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ………

OH wait a minute, I hear McLost now……….. Hey Sarah please come in my office and help me type this e-mail……… I don’t want to look TOO STUPID to another countries leader !

By findog

September 16, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

tcoach @2:39 While I am not a huge Obama fan I play one from time to time on this blog… Either F&F are freaking geniuses to support the eventual winner of the democratic primary in a, by all accounts, democratic year or they get to all the other politicians through PACs which Obama has disavowed for political reasons.

Reverting back to moderation

Devastator @ 2:47 Thou shall not use thy lord Karl’s name in vain. Don’t you understand revisionist history, if they make McCain look bad they look better?

Tray @ 2:49 Let he is without sin, Keating 5, cast the first stone. Should thou feel they are free from sin immediately seek a second opinion.

Rangar @ anytime You never responded to the query on meteorology, you the new weather lady at CBS-46?

By MustBeCrazy

September 16, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

Can you believe this????

UPDATE, 2:27 p.m.: Also, it doesn’t help when McCain’s Victory 2008 chair Carly Fiorina, the former CEO of Hewlett-Packard, tells a St. Louis radio host that Palin would’ve been unqualified to lead HP—a slightly less demanding role than leading the free world. Today’s exchange:

HOST: “Do you think she has the experience to run a major company like Hewlett Packard?”

FIORINA: “No, I don’t. But that’s not what she’s running for.”

Who would want to lead HP? NOT ME!!! But, it’s unbelievable that she could not lead this corporate GIANT, but is qualified to RUN this COUNTRY.

Carly Fiorina is a TRUE NUTCASE and John McCain is the NUT.

By @@

September 16, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this

In a quandary over Palin JIM? How about in a quandary over life, in general?

I listened to her speech regarding Lehman Bros.. Hers wasn’t the same (identically) to McCain’s. Hers wasn’t like those of OBlahMa’s or Biden’s.

Nope! Hers portrayed an independent streak. What I heard her say (nuanced for political reasons) was that NONE within the financial industry should have been bailed out.

I like this Governor Palin. Libertarian at her core. Pragmatic in her approach.

Move over Washington………Governor Palin is gonna rock your sinkin’ boat!

She’s the only one with a lifeline to The American Spirit of Independence.

By Dusty

September 16, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

Tell it Like it is @3:24

Tell it…we are trying to get rid of lies on this blog. Would you mind not posting any more?

McCain and Palin are doing just fine, thank you. Perhaps you’ve gotten your lines crossed. It’s the cut’n’run surrender crowd filling the airways with moans and groans. You know. Democrats who won’t even mention their own candidates for fear of hearing the latest booboo, bamboozle and backsliding. Tough times for liberals!!

By Devastator

September 16, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

• McCain supported the drilling moratorium; now he’s against it.

• McCain strongly opposes a windfall-tax on oil company profits. Three weeks earlier, he was perfectly comfortable with the idea.

• McCain thought Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program circumvented the law; now he believes the opposite.

• McCain defended “privatizing” Social Security. Now he says he’s against privatization (though he actually still supports it. )

Wait, I’m not done with the last two weeks yet….

• McCain wanted to change the Republican Party platform to protect abortion rights in cases of rape and incest. Now he doesn’t.

• McCain thought the estate tax was perfectly fair. Now he believes the opposite.

• He opposed indefinite detention of terrorist suspects. When the Supreme Court reached the same conclusion, he called it “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country. “

• McCain said he would “not impose a litmus test on any nominee.” He used to promise the opposite.

And these come after these other reversals from April and May:

• McCain believes the telecoms should be forced to explain their role in the administration’s warrantless surveillance program as a condition for retroactive immunity. He used to believe the opposite.

• McCain supported storing spent nuclear fuel at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Now he believes the opposite.

• McCain supported moving “towards normalization of relations” with Cuba. Now he believes the opposite.

• McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Hamas. Now he believes the opposite.

• McCain believed the U.S. should engage in diplomacy with Syria. Now he believes the opposite.

• He argued the NRA should not have a role in the Republican Party’s policy making. Now he believes the opposite.

• McCain supported his own lobbying-reform legislation from 1997. Now he doesn’t.

• He wanted political support from radical televangelists like John Hagee and Rod Parsley. Now he doesn’t.

• McCain supported the Lieberman/Warner legislation to combat global warming. Now he doesn’t.

And these are the flip-flops I’ve noticed earlier:

• McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a “‘read my lips’ candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?” referring to George H.W. Bush’s 1988 pledge. “No new taxes,” McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, “I’m not making a ‘read my lips’ statement, in that I will not raise taxes. “

• McCain is both for and against a “rogue state rollback” as a focus of his foreign policy vision.

• McCain says he considered and did not consider joining John Kerry’s Democratic ticket in 2004.

• In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won’t commit to supporting a regulation bill he’s co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris’ former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.

• McCain has changed his economic worldview on multiple occasions.

• McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions.

• McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor at his former church.

• McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off than they were before Bush took office.

• McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.

• McCain believes his endorsement from radical televangelist John Hagee was both a good and bad idea.

• McCain’s first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn’t be “rewarded” for acting “irresponsibly. ” His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.

• McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal.

• In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.

• McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty’s behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.

• McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants’ kids who graduate from high school. Now he’s against it.

• On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.

• In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving “feedback” on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.

• McCain said before the war in Iraq, “We will win this conflict. We will win it easily. ” Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was “probably going to be long and hard and tough. “

• McCain said he was the “greatest critic” of Rumsfeld’s failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as “a mission accomplished. ” In March 2004, he said, “I’m confident we’re on the right course. ” In December 2005, he said, “Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course. “

• McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.

• McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn’t be allowed.

• McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks.

• McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

• On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were “too tilted to the wealthy. ” By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.

• In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

• McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.

• McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr. , before he supported it.

• McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

By No garlic, no mo

September 16, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Yeah, but Carly stirs me. She’s smokin’ hot.

By Devastator

September 16, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

@@,

She’s also a liar.

By Shrugging Atlas

September 16, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS, you and the rest of the idiot repugnants can argue the numbers all you want, but every independent group says that most Americans would get a tax cut under Obama’s plan. Now what that “most” is, shouldn’t matter unless your rich and you’re worried you might take a hit. And if you’re worried you might take a hit, then you probably deserve one.

Anyone who thinks a rich person is someone making $5 million a year, doesn’t know how to use the internet or email, and can’t remember how many houses he owns is completely out of touch with the world we live in. I think McSame is suffering from Post Traumatic Stress dissorder, thinks he’s still a POW living in the 60’s. Somebody please change his depends, he’s getting cranky.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 16, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Yeah, but he could use voice-activated software if he wasn’t so STOOOOOOPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, talk about my mama again and watch what happens freak. I’ll starting crying, I swear. I may even say mean things about you.

HA HA HA HA HE HE HE HE HEEEEEEEEEE

barely a 4 out of 10 hissy fit. dickweed!!!

Funny how leftist scum like U cheerily sneer in sick personal ways about McCain but get all uppity when such UNPROVOKED sneers are wittily mirrored right back at ya!!!

TYPICAL MORAL LEFTIST FASCIST!!

How is the old slapper anyways, hope she’s doing fine. Has she had any ‘positive’ Alzheimer moments recently and ‘disowned’ a GUTLESS FAR LEFT hate pig like U?

I heard from my sources at Millidgeville that when U were born U were so ugly the midwife slapped your mammy!! SNIGGER

By Carbon Footprint

September 16, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

Too many words, Devastator. Spread out your flip flop points.

Only an idle nincompoop would have bothered to read all that. All you did was waste a comment.

Now, repost, one or two at a time, and loosen up. Jazz it up a bit with stories about ponies and little duckies that go quack quack quack.

moron

By AnonyMoose

September 16, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Tray (at 10:13am) thanks for the link, but you proved that your earlier post about Democrats wanting Biden over Obama was a lie. The Rasmussen poll looks to be a poll of all voters on whom they believe is more qualified to be president, not a poll of Democratic voters as you had indicated. Get your lies straight.

By Shrugging Atlas

September 16, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

Great post Devastator, people like Dusty and Ragnar hate those kinds of posts, not because they are over 4 paragraphs and they actually have to read, but because they can’t refute them. They’ll just come back with the same tired arguements of what Obama has or hasn’t done, but it’s all a drop in the bucket to the lies, deciet and flip-flopping McSame has done over his career. I guess that’s one of the good things about having a candidate who is “inexperienced”, he hasn’t had time to be intrenched in the corruption like McSame.

By Dusty

September 16, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

Peter@3:34.

Dear heart, you did not even know that McCain has lost the use of his fingers from torture. And SURPRISE!! McCain was a POW for more than five years. You probably didn’t know THAT either. Figures!!

But you don’t get the booby prize today. HotLanta @ 3:28 gets that one. She actually tries to downgrade 9/11 victims in order to offend Gulliani. Then throws in the tragedy of Katrina with her political trash.

Yep, she’s the winner. BOOBY PRIZE TO HOTLANTA!

By Devastator

September 16, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

Carbon Footprint,

Awww. Shwould I wight it in cwayon fo da wittle baby ‘cause he don’t like to read a lot. awwwww

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 16, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

Shrugging Witless

“argue the numbers” …

95% is a BAREFACED, SHAMELESS LIE!!!

Even ur moronic post implicitly concedes the point!!

What about the Grand Cyclops Wright LIE??? Do U “really” believe that Hussein Obama and his sullen anti-white wife - in 20 YEARS - NEVER EVER heard one of Wrights racist rants???

LMFAO!!!

By Devastator

September 16, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

If McCain was a pow for more than 5 years, then you might want to inform him of that because his response every time someone asks him a question is: “I wasn’t(insert subject) for five years.”

By Tray

September 16, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Hey anonymoose, what i said was exactly right, just depends on your point of view!

Rumor is already that the DEMS are looking to get rid of Biden…maybe because he told a handicap man to stand up!!

mark my words now, something will happen in Biden’s “personal life”, causing him to withdraw as VP, and the Obama camp will bring in a woman!

By Deva's tater

September 16, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Hey, Devastated. Poke TFTT, I dare ya. Go on, sissy, do it. I’d love to see you go running from here crying like yesterday. You’re a wuss if you don’t do it. He’s right there. Poke him.

By Peter

September 16, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

Hey Dusty……… ever hear of voice recognition?

Come on Dusty…… a child HAS to use a computer for school, a high school student has to use a computer for school, a COLLEGE student MUST use a computer to graduate………

Voice recognition..doesn’t cost too much…..maybe he could trade one of the houses he doesn’t know about for the program !

He is LAZY…….OUT OF TOUCH……. PERIOD !!!!!

Dusty for President !

By Shrugging Atlas

September 16, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

By VOTE YES TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS, look it’s been really nice of you to put down your confederate flag and your can of PBR, to hop on this thing they call the “internet”, but I think your half-brother/cousin is needing to use the computer to finish up his myspace page. Why don’t you let the adults talk while you run along and play. We all know you have nothing good to add to the conversation, and it’s really hard to hear you with your head in the sand.

By Dusty

September 16, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

Shruggling Atlas,3:51

It takes less than a minute to quik-read Devastator’s propaganda from headquarters. It’s the BOTHER of reading canned repetitious trash. It has all the sincerity of reading from a teleprompter.

So skip the words corruption and other etcetera cause the main words for McCain are HONOR AND INTEGRITY. Look ‘em up and try to remember what that means. You’ll get the truth of it after a while.

Now go read Devastator AGAIN for punishment. You deserve it.

By Jim is a caveman

September 16, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Dusty, we’re trying to get rid of morons on this blog. Would you mind not posting anymore? Cut and run surrender crowd? You talking about the Bush time horizon for withdrawal? Or just spouting more nonsense?

By Tell It Like It Is

September 16, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Nice try. Did you get this spin from Mr. Rowe? I am glad that you are trying to rid this blog of lying. You have a way to go. It will be interesting to see how you guys handle things as Obama starts going straight at McCann and not Palin. It appears that Palin may be facing some new attacks from her own folks. Are you writing speeches for her or your boss? You had better make them good as it is going to be rough between now and election day. Have a good day.

By @@

September 16, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

@@,

She’s also a liar.

Devastator:

I don’t normally get into the petty “they lie” thingy, but since you mentioned it……

Obama LAUNDRY LIST OF LIES

Obama lied then, lies now

My personal take is that all politicians lie. The one yackin’ the most is usually the one lying the most. Non accosentite?

Your guy’s been yackin’ on the campaign trail for what……..19 — 20 months now?

The other day at the 9/11 Forum, Columbia, he made a comment about Governor Palin, the Mayor? I’ll paraphrase…….”I (OBlahMa) have the greatest respect for our mayors. That’s where the rubber meets the road. They have to keep the streets clean, tend to tree limbs, and arrange for garbage pick up.”

Condescending SOAB!

What would he say about you Devastator with all your cut and pastes. I’ll paraphrase once again…..

“That Devastator! He was my sharpest tool, honed for my perfection.”

You can have him “D”.

By Dusty

September 16, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

Devastator@3:59

McCain doesn’t answer DUMB questions from anybody, including torturers. Try a SMART question for a change and see what happens.

By AnonyMoose

September 16, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Tray, earlier you said that Democrats want Biden at the top of the ticket. Now you say “rumor has it” that Democrats want Biden off the ticket.

Try to keep your lies in order. It is taxing trying to follow your deceoption.

By Peter

September 16, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

The Sweet thing about Dusty is she wants to Hire the handicapped ………

But Dusty……. McLost is Mentally Handicapped…..

Dusty for President !

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 16, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Shrugging Witless

typical far left maggot … SMASHED in factual debate so it pukes up the usual anal anally WITLESS unfunny commie creep abuse!!

Hussein Obama pukes up the uppity LIE about 95% of people getting tax cuts just about every damn day!!

It also shamelessly LIES about Grand Cyclops Wright.

And ALL U can do in response is look to ur manky old crackpipe for cyber inspiration.

what the hell is PBR? - the ONLY ‘PBR’ I know is the old UK economics term for Public (Sector) Borrowing Requirement.

Clearly ur own inbred brutha/cousin is expecting U to act the nonce like Uncle/Daddy again!! ….. huge smashed the lefty scum again snigger

By MustBeCrazy

September 16, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

SOMEONE CALLED IT RIGHT THIS MORNING

The McCain Camp has hired a lawyer to follow the exact same process the BUSH/CHENEY Doctrine follows, when they are not HAPPY:

GOP lawmakers sue to stop Palin investigation

Five Alaska lawmakers file suit to end ‘Troopergate’ probe

Talk about WORKING the GOOD OLE BOY NETWORK The same network, that Palin and McCain are suppose to eliminate.

They are following the Bush/Cheney PLAYBOOK to the “T”.

Either they are crazy or the people in this country MUST BE CRAZY.

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

September 16, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

REPUBLICAN NAZI DUNGHEADS, Americans are losing their retirement funds as the financial markets, mismanaged and emboldened by crooked Republinazis, plunge America into a depression. Morons, no one cares about Pagan or McStupid! The day of the scumbag Republinazi is over!

By WashingtonState

September 16, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this

It isn’t only the left that should be panicked about Palin possibly being a heart attack away from the presidency. Is the far right really that out of touch with reality that they think a woman whose Alaskan government could be a mirror for the Bush administration would be a good president? Secret email accounts, appointing unqualified friends to government posts, using governmental power to squelch opposition. Add to this the fact of her colossal inexperience and deliberate ignorance and you can kiss what Bush has left intact of this country goodbye. As for McCain, he is like the emperor fiddling as Rome burns. For those of you who think 8 years of Bush is enough, McCain promises at least 4 more of the same. For those who haven’t noticed, there isn’t much difference between the Republican version of the free market system and the robber barons who dominated our economy more than a century ago. Government protection of the rich at the expense of the middle class seems to be the dominant theme of both times. McCain has belatedly recognized this with his too little, too late call for more regulation. I doubt he is serious about that, because it runs counter to everything he has said about economics his whole life. Talk about a flip-flop.

By Devastator

September 16, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Are you aware that McCain reads from a teleprompter? Because he’s boring as hell doing it doesn’t take away from the fact that he does it.

@@,

I was just adding to your long list of trumped up compliments of Palin. It seems that you have a lot of qualities that you like in a candidate and you’ve decided to declare that Palin has all of them.

By Shrugging Atlas

September 16, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Dusty, that punishment comment was actually funny, I’ll give you that. The point is, whether it’s canned propaganda or not, it’s all true. You guys started the whole “for it, before against it” arguement, and now that your candidate is the king of that you want to lable them as canned trash and propaganda. It still doesn’t negate the fact that he has flip-flopped more times than a fish on a hook. Yeah, and I know you like that one.
And spare me the honor and integrity talk. I guess he’s only honorable to service men, not his wife whom he’s called derogitory names. He also continues to lie about Obama’s visit to wounded troops in Afghanistan, lies about Obama’s tax plan, lies about Palin’s support for the Bridge to Nowhere, lies about Obama’s support for comprehensive sex ed, and lies about Palin accepting earmarks as Gov? Honorable men don’t lie. McCain’s behavior is a disgrace. And you should be ashamed for supporting such a dishonest coward.

By Dusty

September 16, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

Caveman,4:10

You should try originality for a change. You tried to take my idea and run with it. But liberals only know how to run backwards. You just did and tried to blame it on Bush. Stop blabbing, kid. Bush is not running in this election.

Tell It LIke IT Is,4:10

You’re still worried about ROVE? You mean that smart guy who made Democrats shiver and slink? I don’t believe he is too busy these days.

If you think Obama is going to ATTACK (what a laugh!), maybe you better get Rove to drum up a few speeches for you. Or SOMEBODY!! Just pacing up and down with your hands in your pockets and your eyes on the teleprompter JUST AINT GONNA CUT IT! Yeah, attack! Woohoo!

Palin, get ready to mow down another moose! or was that a DONKEY!!!

By Carbon Footprint

September 16, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

Bill Mar sez that Americans R2 dumb to be governed. We re-elected Bush and that’s all he needs to know about his countrymen.

We deserve the administrations we elect. Period.

If McCain wins, then we need to just stfu, and grin and bear the war, the economy and the corruption. Maybe McCain will throw us a bone and wet-start a New years Eve or something.

And then there’s Palin. With her in office, things will be nice. it’s nice to have a pretty girl in the white house.

Palin 08: A pretty girl for a pretty nice America

By Shrugging Atlas

September 16, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS, I love it, let us know when your green card is up so we can give you a nice going away present. Not sure why an illegal alien like yourself would be against the Dems, we want to help people like you, even if you don’t appreciate it. But really we’re not mad at you, the world needs ditch diggers too. Give our best to the Queen, and no, not the Queen that Larry Craig and the rest of the closet republican gays hang out with.

By Shrugging Atlas

September 16, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS, I love it, let us know when your green card is up so we can give you a nice going away present. Not sure why an illegal alien like yourself would be against the Dems, we want to help people like you, even if you don’t appreciate it. But really we’re not mad at you, the world needs ditch diggers too. Give our best to the Queen, and no, not the Queen that Larry Craig and the rest of the closet republican gays hang out with.

By findog

September 16, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Dusty @ 3:22 I like your idea, on posting anyway… Especially that you kept it to the prerequisite four paragraphs and will attempt to abide.

By AmVet

September 16, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

The Barack Obama campaign is unveiling a new line of “faith merchandise” in an effort to lure religious voters.

“Check out the Believers for Barack, Pro-Family Pro-Obama, and Catholics for Obama buttons, bumper stickers and signs,” Obama Deputy Director of Religious Affairs Paul Monteiro said in an e-mail obtained by the Beliefnet Web site.

DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF RELIGIOUS AFFAIRS???

Haven’t we gotten past this ridiculous cr@p yet?

“Believers for Barack rally signs and bumper stickers, along with all Pro-Family Pro-Obama merchandise, are appropriate for people of all faith backgrounds.”

CNN reported that the Obama campaign will soon introduce Clergy for Change and Pro-Israel Pro-Obama merchandise.

Should make the Zionists feel a tad better…

IMO, it is a huge blunder for the Dems to go after the mythology crowd.

Leave it to the fundiecons who actually swallow that nonsense hook, line and sinker…

By RW (the oravaginal)

September 16, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

Dusty:
Palin deserves better than U. Dont even go near Palin, you’ll make her look like even more of a godess.

Leave our goddess alone, you warthog.

Palin 08: Uh, she’s no fat chick.

Down with Dusty! Up with Palin!

And if I catch you, Dusty, making fun of Palin’s down syndrome baby one more time…..I know, Iknow, you’re just hacking Rush Limbaugh who’s still mimicking the symptoms of downs, like he done did to Michael J Fox, but enough already.

Have you no sense of decency at long last?

You’re a bad man, Dusty, you’re a VERY bad man.

By dirty harry

September 16, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

Pakistan’s military has ordered its forces to open fire if U.S. troops launch another air or ground raid across the Afghan border, an army spokesman said today!

Can the Bush/Cheney/McBush disaster called foreign policy get any worse?

By Captain Freedom

September 16, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

THE Captain places his other typing finger in service to point out that events have once again proved Our Leader to be the Smartest of All Possible Leaders. If the Islamunistofascists had allowed Our Leader to place Our Social Security funds in the stock market, we would be poised to pick up a veritable plethora of bargains today. But because our money is locked up in piddly guaranteed return accounts, we as a nation have missed yet another grand opportunity.

Stupid liberals.

By findog

September 16, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

MustBeCrazy @ 3:36 I would not quote Carly, she was a Lucent Manager insisting on 20-percent increases in sales whether carries needed the equipment or not. Ten years later Lucent probably still has a few switching systems that have yet to be installed from her great leadership. Her looking down at Palin is probably because she thought she should have been tapped for VP. At least McCain vetted Fiorina properly.

@@ at 3:38 I do not think any Alaskan can claim to be Libertarian with as much of their budgets coming from the federal treasury. Question to Palin should be, “What would Alaska look like if it received its per capita fair share of federal dollars?”

Carbon @ 3:50 The last line was redundant

Dusty @ 3:54 I’m sorry but the 9/11 payout was a payoff and correlating those figures to other tragedies, god made included, or the families of our fallen soldiers is fair if used to point out the hypocrisy.

By Tell It Like It Is

September 16, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this

Dusty,

Thanks for the quick response. HEH!!! HEH!!!

Obama/Biden 08

By Dusty

September 16, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

Devastator @4:14

Tell us ALL about boring. You’re the expert.

Shrugging Atlas,4:24

Glad to know that you can smile. It isn’t obvious that you can.

I don’t go for “lists”. You just gave us one. “Your man did so and so..yah yah yah!!!

Those tactics worked fairly well in elementary school but I advanced to other endeavors after that. It is easy to dig up trash. Everybody’s got some and the fingerpointers always have theirs too. Forget it, fellow.

The “IN WORDS” now are HONESTY and INTEGRITY. Try ‘em. You’ll like ‘em. McCain’s got ‘em.

Bye now. Getting late!!

By Jim is a caveman

September 16, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

Surely, oh all knowing Dusty, you have heard that your man in the WH has negotiated a time horizon for the withdrawal of our troops from Iraq. Or did you just conveniently forget that? Why is it cut and run when Obama and the Dems say it and not when Bush does? You should try thinking for yourself for a change. I never said Bush was running, I was simply referring his change of course on withdrawal from Iraq. You need to stop trying to change the subject all the time.

By RW (the oravaginal)

September 16, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

You’re a bad man.

By Dusty

September 16, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

Findog or some kind of dog,4:46

I hope none of your family ever goes down in the terrorist flames of a burning plane so someone can use their deaths to point out hypocrisy.

You’ve lost it, Fido. Pure and simple.

Goodbye…

By @@

September 16, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

I was just adding to your long list of trumped up compliments of Palin. It seems that you have a lot of qualities that you like in a candidate and you’ve decided to declare that Palin has all of them.

Devastator:

And since you neglected to respond to OBlahMa’s lies, you’ve been trumped by my compliments of Palin?

The biggest problem I have with your candidate is HIS promise of being YOUR hope.

My candidates tell me that HOPE is within me. That’s a message I CAN BELIEVE IN. It would be dangerous to think otherwise.

By Peter

September 16, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

Hopefully woman in America won’t get raped if Paulin is the VP………

Of all of the things I’ve learned about Sarah Palin in the last week and a half, this has got to be the most disturbing. While Sarah Palin was serving as the Mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, the city charged victims of sexual assault between $300 and $1200 for their own rape kits. A rape kit is a sexual assault forensic evidence kit, used to collect DNA that can be used in criminal proceedings to assist in the conviction of those who commit sex crimes. The kit is performed as soon as possible after a sexual assault or attack has been committed. It is usually humiliating and uncomfortable for the victim-imagine enduring that and then paying $1200 just so that the criminal who assaulted you might be caught.

Yes she is soooooooooooooo for women in general !!!!!!

By fearless fosdik

September 16, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Today McCain was on all the network shows explaining what he said about the meltdown in the financial and banking sectors. He calls it a “crisis.” He proposes a commission to study the crisis. I hate to break it to you, JOHN,but “crisis” and “commission” don’t really fit together in the same sentence. A crisis requires crisis management, rapid response, decisive leadership, doesn’t it? A commission is a body that takes its time to deliberate and investigate and recommend long-term systemic solutions.

So either, you are wrong that it is a crisis, or wrong that what’s needed is a commission.

Poor John…He just doesn’t get it!

By Shrugging Atlas

September 16, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

Dusty, before you go. I was really hoping for an inteligent response to my post, but I was disapointed with your comeback. You again talk about McSame having honor and integrity, but fail to respond to the simple fact that honorable men don’t lie. I appologize that my evidence was in list form, so I’ll try again.

And spare me the honor and integrity talk. I guess he’s only honorable to service men, not his wife whom he’s called derogitory names. He also continues to lie about Obama’s visit to wounded troops in Afghanistan, lies about Obama’s tax plan, lies about Palin’s support for the Bridge to Nowhere, lies about Obama’s support for comprehensive sex ed, and lies about Palin accepting earmarks as Gov? Honorable men don’t lie. McCain’s behavior is a disgrace.

By Vonnie

September 16, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this

It is obvious that most people on this board don’t care anything about the REAL issues. They just want their party to win at any cost. I don’t know about you, but I’m tired of waking up day after day to more jobs being lost, more company failures and the only thing the candidates can do is blame one another. I am a female and not easily influenced by talk radio. I can think for myself, which if most of you did that, you could see what is going on. It’s sad when so many will not dig out the facts for themselves but rely on others’ viewpoints (and that is all they are) to determine who they will vote for.

By Pathetic

September 16, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Peter’s a typical desperate Dem, making up the most scurrilous crap in the world. ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE, dillhole!!

By DebbieDoRight

September 16, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

How to destroy Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin?

No one has to destroy her. With her record, she’ll self-destruct on her own. Just give it some time…..

By Churchill

September 16, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

National blogs are also passing around an audio clip of an interview with former Hewlitt Packard CEO Carly Fiornia. Marc Ambinder at the Atlantic says the source is KTRS radio in St. Louis, Mo.

The sound is below. Here’s the transcript:

KTRS: “I want to ask you a question about experience — [as] somebody who has worked her way up from a secretary to run Hewlett Packard. Sarah Palin — John McCain obviously thinks she has the experience to become president of the United States. Do you think she has the experience to run a major company like Hewlett Packard?”

FIORINA: “No, I don’t. But you know what? That’s not what she’s running for.”

By findog

September 16, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

Dusty @ 5 So, families of the people who die in fire are more deserving of our support than those who die by natural disaster? More deserving than the orphans of the military causalities? More deserving than those who died in Oklahoma City? You have no shame and probably voted for Giuliani.

Good day Madam

By Peter

September 16, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

Hey Racist Jerk……..By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS ………….

“Read my lips I will NOT RAISE TAXES” !

By Ga Values

September 16, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this

Captain Freedom

You are indead the “MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE” or at least this board.

By fearless fosdik

September 16, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

“If Governor Palin wants to represent ‘change’ in Washington,
she could try something like telling the truth about her record…”

What kind of person tells a self-aggrandizing lie, gets called on it, admits publicly
that the truth is not at all what she originally claimed — and then goes out and starts
telling the original lie again without changing a word?

A SERIAL LIAR!

By Peter

September 16, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

Hey By Pathetic ……………. nice name……..seems to fit…… you make a ton of sense…NOT !

Now what part is the “Making UP ” ?

By Barefoot

September 16, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

The left doesn’t need to ‘destroy’ Palin. Let’s just ignore her, focus on the issues, and win this election based on ideas instead of all these lowball politics.

If she’s as shallow as we suspect, it will reveal itself. If she’s got more than we believe, that, too, will reveal itself. Just hope it shakes out before Nov 4th, rather than a year from now, when we realize we might’ve made yet another election year mistake.

By getalife

September 16, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

John Amato writes:

“on FOX and CNBC say to let it all burn down so they can pick the bones off our country…I saw one land developer licking his chops at the prospect of being able to buy a ton of buildings real, real cheap…That’s conservatism at its finest.”

Then Willard Romney spews Obama can’t spend any money on health care or other problems because of the poor economy.

They are actually cheering on the death of the middle class and American workers.

Its sickening and why American workers will vote for these vultures is beyond me.

By Gee really?

September 16, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

To all you yammering right-wing haters with an IQ of 40, who are so desperate to hate that you’d spit in your own eye if it were the only eye around:

Turns out keeping your tires inflated isn’t a Democratic ruse - Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 03:33 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Five weeks ago, Republicans in Cobb County — a Marietta congressman among them — planted themselves at a gas station to mock Barack Obama’s emphasis on energy conservation.

Inflate your tires, indeed.

But with the panic over Hurricane Ike sending gasoline in Georgia well past $4 a gallon, Gov. Sonny Perdue just put out a list of things that drivers can do to lessen the impact of high gas prices and improve fuel efficiency.

Tip No. 4?

“Inflate your tires: Keeping tires properly inflated improves gas mileage.”

Now get busy writing letters to the governor YOU VOTED FOR telling him what an idiot he is. Morons.

By catlady

September 16, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

When do you folks realize that the only thing that trickles down is pee?

By misterearl

September 16, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

As Farhad Manjoo in Slate.com succinctly put it: “Since July, John McCain and his campaign have made 11 political claims that are barely true, eight that are categorically false, and three that you’d have to call pants-on-fire lies — a total of 22 clearly deceptive statements (many of them made repeatedly in ads and stump speeches).” The Obama campaign has also occasionally strayed from the truth. But the actions of the McCain campaign are venturing into territory rarely before seen on the campaign trail.

During the last week, the McCain campaign has unabashedly engaged in the active spreading of mistruths and falsehoods. It said that Barack Obama supported “comprehensive sex education” for children in kindergarten (“dishonest” and “deceptive” said The Washington Post); that Mr. Obama used the colloquial expression “lipstick on a pig” to describe Sarah Palin (G.O.P. Senator Orrin Hatch labeled the charge “ridiculous”); that Ms. Palin never accepted earmarks as governor of Alaska; (this is patently false, she actually requested $450 million in earmarks as governor); that Mr. Obama will raise taxes on middle-class families (his plan would actually give a tax cut to 80 percent of Americans); that his health care plan will force families into a government-run health care plan; (a public health expert quoted in this paper called that “inaccurate and false”); that Ms. Palin told Congress “thanks, but no thanks” on the Bridge to Nowhere (she initially supported the bridge and kept the Congressional funds earmarked for the project); that Ms. Palin visited Ireland and Iraq (her airplane refueled in the former and never crossed the border into the latter). Now there are even reports that the McCain campaign fabricated crowd estimates for a recent rally in Virginia.

Even after the press debunked each of these lies, the McCain campaign has refused to concede the truth. Though news outlets have consistently shown that Ms. Palin’s claim about the Bridge to Nowhere is not true, she continues to repeat it to the point where MSNBC’s Hardball began to keep a running tally of how often Ms. Palin made the same false assertion on the campaign trail.

According to Brian Rogers, a McCain spokesman, “we’re running a campaign to win. And we’re not too concerned about what the media filter tries to say about it.” Indeed, Mr. Rogers claimed the campaign had “detailed backup” for “everything” it has said. “If you and the Obama campaign want to disagree,” he told reporters, “that’s your call.” Of course, detailed backup is not necessarily truth. The McCain campaign seems to be operating under the notion that if their distortions about Barack Obama become part of the campaign discourse, voters will pay less attention to the fact-checking response or dismiss it as the usual he-said-she-said of American politics.

By Gee really?

September 16, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

To all you yammering right-wing haters with an IQ of 40, who are so desperate to hate that you’d spit in your own eye if it were the only eye around:

Turns out keeping your tires inflated isn’t a Democratic ruse - Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 03:33 PM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Five weeks ago, Republicans in Cobb County — a Marietta congressman among them — planted themselves at a gas station to mock Barack Obama’s emphasis on energy conservation.

Inflate your tires, indeed.

But with the panic over Hurricane Ike sending gasoline in Georgia well past $4 a gallon, Gov. Sonny Perdue just put out a list of things that drivers can do to lessen the impact of high gas prices and improve fuel efficiency.

Tip No. 4?

“Inflate your tires: Keeping tires properly inflated improves gas mileage.”

Now get busy writing letters to the governor YOU VOTED FOR telling him what an idiot he is. Morons.

By Foghorn Leghorn

September 16, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this

It’s not.. Ahh say, it’s not a good Ahh-DEEE-ah, Ah say, it’s not a good Ahh-DEE-ah, until Governor Sonny tells you it is!

Now Y’all git on over to the service station and inflate yo TAHHHRS, now, ya HEAH?

By Foghorn Leghorn

September 16, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this

It’s not.. Ahh say, it’s not a good Ahh-DEEE-ah, Ah say, it’s not a good Ahh-DEE-ah, until Governor Sonny tells you it is!

Now Y’all git on over to the service station and inflate yo TAHHHRS, now, ya HEAH?

By BlueMoon

September 16, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla-

Let me let you in on something…about 40% of Americans effectively don’t pay any type of income tax now so how’s Obama going to give a tax break to 95% of Americans? Oh yeah, through income redistribution.

I bet you also think tax breaks for corporations are bad too don’t you? You do realize that corporations don’t pay taxes I’m sure. They pass the cost on to the consumer through the price they charge for their good and services. So any tax break the corporations get is actually good for the consumer in a number of ways. The most important being: 1. lower inflation 2. creation of American job (here, I’ll explain this one to you) because the US has the second highest corporate tax rate in the world it no longer makes sense for companies to expand domestically because it costs so much to do so. Why expand here when you pay 20% less in taxes somewhere else? That pays for a lot of labor don’t you think?

No level headed American should ever want what Obama is selling on the economy.

By Peter

September 17, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this

Hey Blue Moon……… how many kids do you have ?

Think about his………

How many kids are in Pre-school, grammar school, middle school, high school, college ……….. those kids are Americans…….and guess what they don’t pay any taxes, most of them with maybe a few full time, or with part time jobs…………that is what the Right is failing to tell you……….But they will Spin, Spin, Spin, the tax thing…….How about the retired folks…….. they don’t pay much in taxes either…….

Well folks as we see the government is bailing out the entire financial market, and AIG is the latest to be taken over……….

THANK YOU REPUBLICANS………….Welcome to Republican led Communism……Government run institutions as the Non Regulated industries ALL FALL APART !

Republicans for Communism !!!!!!!!!!

By Manny

September 17, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

Gov. Sarah Palin isn’t even a factor as to how many independent voters are looking at when we are selecting a candidate. Only those who are hard right or hard left are even thinking about Sarah Palin. She’s a distraction from the issues. That’s all. I could care less, because even Dan Quayle was a VP.

What I am interested in, and the reason why i am voting for Obama is that McCain isn’t talking about issues. And the few times he does, he sounds like a George Bush retread. And it’s McCain’s job to put together his policies and drive them home.

Now if Sarah Palin was running for President, I might reconsider. But as a VP, she brings nothing to the table. Plus, only the Republicans and the media are talking about Sarah Palin. The Obama campaign isn’t even talking about her at all. I haven’t heard her name mentioned by the Obama campaign in over a week.

That’s why, after voting for George Bush Sr., Bob Dole, and George Bush twice, I have to vote for Obama. He’s the only one talking about the issues. He’s the only one that’s not talking about stupid things like Lipstick on pigs, The View, or other stuff that doesn’t even matter to me.

It’s the economy! I want to hear about how the economy is going to be fixed! And if Sarah Palin is going to make the policy on behalf of John McCain, I want to hear her. If she’s only going to a cheerleader for McCain, yet not hear anything about what is going to change about this economy right when they reach office, then I don’t care about what she says.

In short, when she comes on, I sense change. I change. I change the channel and wait to hear from McCain.

By Southern ATL

September 17, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

RECENTLY I SAW A CLIP THAT WAS TAKEN FROM GOVENOR PALIN’S OFFICE IN ALASKA. THERE WAS A LARGE BEAR WHOSE COAT HAD BEEN PREPARED BY A TAXIDERMIST……IT HAS BEEN REPORTED THAT THE BEAR WAS KILLED BY PALIN….WHERE IS PETA????? WHERE IS PETA???? THEY SHOWED SO MUCH CONCERN ABOUT DOG FIGHTING AND THE KILLING OF DOGS. THEY HAVE OFTEN THROWN PAINT ON MINK COATS…..AGAIN, I ASK…..WHERE IS PETA????? WHERE IS PETA?????

By WillieBkind

September 17, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this

The internet the biased media are providing you liberals with the truth? You read it like it’s your bible. I am so glad for Fox where accusations and blogs are challenged for the reality and truth. I am voting for McCain and Palin. My wife is voting for McCain and Palin. My three sons are voting for McCain and Palin. Put that in your liberal biased lying media.

By Tuffy, the Airborne Soldier

September 17, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

TRAY,

All I have to say is read the hate on this page. Racism IS NOT what I suggested, IT IS WHAT IT IS. You and your lot can’t seem to face THAT truth. But then I guess you’ve become accustomed to being lied too on a larger scale. Further, it’s always funny when you people tell others to NOT play the race card when you’ve used the overtones of race so frequently that its become a part of your DNA. Republicans + RACISM, DECEIT, RECESSION and I could continue. How McShame can run on the GOP ticket and NOT be a Rebublican is the most blatant lie ever told. It was and is being conducted directly in front of you and you fools are falling for it.

Incredible Tray. Simply, incredible….

By Shrugging Atlas

September 17, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

Wow, WillieB has risen from the grave to sling pooh on all the liberals. It’s funny that you think the entire media is liberal and lieing because they are not telling you what you want to hear. Now that everyone has had a chance to look at the facts, and the lies comeing from the McBush ticket things are not looking so good for you anymore and you want to blame it on someone. The fact that you get your news from Fox, shows how narrow minded you really are. To think everyone else is wrong but Fox, give me a break. You’re so ignorant, you blame “the internet”, that’s too funny. I guess we should be glad you at least know what the internet is, maybe you should fill McSame in a little. You are just like the rest of the mindless republican sheep, doing what ever you have to do to win, and telling yourself whatever you can to look in the mirror in the morning, while at the same time ignoring the issues. You and your family can certianly vote for McBush, but hopefully it’s for better reasons other than hateing the liberal media or that thing the kids are calling “the internet”.

By GaLiberal

September 17, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Moron Jim said: Years ago, after the Monica Lewinsky affair, a female cousin of about my age sidled up to me and whispered furtively that for the first time in her life, she was voting Republican.

Well, Moron Jim, if that’s all it takes for your family members to jump ship, you and the Rethuglicon party are welcome to them. This is typical of the moralistic hypocrisy that dominates Rethuglicons. Condemn Clinton for having some torrid affair with a consenting adult, but it’s ok if you do the same thing.

Palin is no different than any other moralistic Rethuglicon. She has abused her power as mayor and governor, she has lied about her abuses of power, and derided her critics as ‘haters.’ She will be the real power around the White House telling McCain what to do and when to do it. Sounds like another Bush/Cheney administration to me. I’ll remember in November. Will you?

When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Palin is living proof.

By Shrugging Atlas

September 17, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Morning GaLiberal. Great post, and you would think based on that logic that a guy like Larry Craig would send those hypocrits running back to the other side, but as you point out it’s only bad when someone from the other party is the one commiting the act. Until then they’ll continue to stand by people like Craig, and they’ll continue to support liers like McPalin.

By WilllieBkind

September 17, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

By Shrugging Atlas September 17, 2008 9:56 I AM Sorry SA I am too busy reading how Pelosi is going to compromise by letting the oil companies drill in the ocean far far away from the oil reserves to lower my energy costs. thank goodness for her….she is so looking out for me! But if we read on the internet we will find those mean conservatives are just being mean by refusing to drill into a black hole. You and she are holding me hostage so you can force your ideals on me….and you use the term McSame. You are a facist! Just like Hitler and the extreme muslims.

By Shrugging Atlas

September 17, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Wow, facist? actually I’m Jewish. Looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the trailer this morning. I love how you have been brainwashed to think that any drilling, even in the heart of the reserves, will lower your energy cost today. Even your silly party acknowledges the fact that drilling today will not produce one drop of oil for at least 5 years, most likely 10. I guess you and McSame will have something in common, you’ll both have been held captive for 5 years. Why don’t you stop buying the BS you’re selling. It’s been a fact that the oil companies are currently sitting on over 90 million offshore acres which they are not tapping. They hold leases to land they can use, but you want more? Typical repugnant.

By DemsNeedALabotomy

September 17, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Geez…all you “giant brains” are giving me a headache…

Here’s the truth…the Democraps have been running the show in congress since they were voted in in 2006…gee, since then, gas is @ $4 a gallon…housing prices have dumped…..Wall Street is in hysterics….and you obliviot’s have the nerve to complain about Republican’s?? The economy is in the sh#thole because the Dems have run it into the ground!!!!

You obliviot’s think Obamassiah is the king because he want’s change? The only thing he could change that will make a noticable difference would be to get the Dems out of Congress!!! NOW!!

I want a REAL MAN who will fight for his country and countrymen!! Not some smooth talking placibo who thinks that having group hugs and singing kumbaya with his terrorist buddies will make us all be friends!! WAKE UP PEOPLE!!

By Shrugging Atlas

September 17, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

DemsNeedALabotomy, that was by far the stupidest comment I have seen in a long time. Thanks for the laugh this morning.

By old cowboy

September 17, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

I would just like to point out that we were going along pretty good before some idiots voted in a Democratic controlled House and Senate, which are the biggest do nothings ever. Realize people that the President only tries to set policy, but that all the laws and oversight are in Congress’ hands. So lefties, blame your current Demo-crap House and Senate members for this mess. I hope enough people will wake up and give us another Republican controlled Congress with a Republican President/Vice President to boot.

By WillieBkind

September 17, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

By Shrugging Atlas:

Actually I am a registered Democrat! NOT a liberal demagog. Did you read the part about “the far far away or the blackhole” or is that selective liberal education. So what’s like to be a jewish facist? You can post your comments but I got to go clean the trailer. I will read it later. Us democrats love trailers.

By DemsNeedALabotomy

September 17, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

Gee Shrugging… using the word “stupidest” is pretty funny, too! Telling the truth about the Democraps isn’t a laughing matter.

By Shrugging Atlas

September 17, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

WillieB, first of all, give me a break that you’re a democrat. And if you are, I challenge you to a duel. I read the whole post, I’m still not sure what the current Pelosi comment has to to with the fact that the oil companies are, and have been, sitting on over 90 million acres of untapped land? Are you suggesting that all of those acres are “black holes”, and that only the new land they receive will produce oil? You are as lost as your candidates. Why haven’t they started exploring those areas before they whine about getting more? If they had done what they were supposed to when they got the leases maybe we’d be getting some oil from them now, and thus give you some relief today, not 5-10 years from now.

By Lily

September 17, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Wow. Thought I’d check out my old hometown newspaper, the AJC, to find out your take on the election. Do you, Mr. Wooten, regularly get a column to spew a brand of right wing nonsense that even the right wing is backing away from? Better check out your compadres Krauthammer, Brooks and Frum, who all agree the Straight Talk Express has derailed and that Sarah Palin is a rotten choice with “neglible experience.” Guess you didn’t get the memo.

By Dennis

September 17, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Hey, Mr. Wooten; You might ought to read this;

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/tucker/stories/2008/09/17/tucked_0917.html

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Robin

September 18, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten: Gov. Palin has been introduced at a true conservative. This was defined as being gun loving, a global warming denier, a war lover, a creationism believer, an off shore driller, and in favor of leaving women who have been raped and beaten with no choices. This was just the start. The future of this country requires a new and courageous vision. Your party has become the party of denial and fear. McCain and Palin give us a future with more drilling, more environmental destruction, more global warming, and the death cycle to go with these actions. Your party gives us denial of much of the discoveries science gives us and seems to want the U.S. population to be as ignorant as possible. While an uneducated population may be receptive to the smoke, mirrors, and fear mongering that is the only product left from your once proud party, it does little to make this nation stronger. McCain and Palin now offer the nation a platform with little content, but frequent untruths (“I refused the money for the bridge to nowhere,” Obama wants to teach kindergarten children about sex,” “I never wanted earmarks for my Alaska,” “Obama called Palin a pig,” – should I go on?). So let me put your mind at rest Mr. Wooten. I am not in a quandary, I am simply embarrassed for you, your desperate party, and any one still fooled by the what you people say. Robin

By Robin

September 18, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten: Gov. Palin has been introduced at a true conservative. This was defined as being gun loving, a global warming denier, a war lover, a creationism believer, an off shore driller, and in favor of leaving women who have been raped and beaten with no choices. This was just the start. The future of this country requires a new and courageous vision. Your party has become the party of denial and fear. McCain and Palin give us a future with more drilling, more environmental destruction, more global warming, and the death cycle to go with these actions. Your party gives us denial of much of the discoveries science gives us and seems to want the U.S. population to be as ignorant as possible. While an uneducated population may be receptive to the smoke, mirrors, and fear mongering that is the only product left from your once proud party, it does little to make this nation stronger. McCain and Palin now offer the nation a platform with little content, but frequent untruths (“I refused the money for the bridge to nowhere,” Obama wants to teach kindergarten children about sex,” “I never wanted earmarks for my Alaska,” “Obama called Palin a pig,” – should I go on?). So let me put your mind at rest Mr. Wooten. I am not in a quandary, I am simply embarrassed for you, your desperate party, and any one still fooled by the what you people say. Robin

By Hillary Flintstone

September 18, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

We love Sara and will back her all the way to the whitehouse. Obama is old news and without the media proping him up every day looks quite ordinary. Kick it up a notch Obama… if you can.

By Hillary Flintstone

September 18, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

We love Sara and will back her all the way to the whitehouse. Obama is old news and without the media proping him up every day looks quite ordinary. Kick it up a notch Obama… if you can.

By Hillary Flintstone

September 18, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

We love Sara and will back her all the way to the whitehouse. Obama is old news and without the media proping him up every day looks quite ordinary. Kick it up a notch Obama… if you can.