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By OilForSex

September 11, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

By The Associated Press

Wednesday, September 10, 2008

WASHINGTON - Government officials handling billions of dollars in oil royalties engaged in illicit sex with employees of energy companies they were dealing with and received numerous gifts from them, federal investigators said Wednesday.

The alleged transgressions involve 13 Interior Department employees in Denver and Washington. Their alleged improprieties include rigging contracts, working part-time as private oil consultants, and having sexual relationships with - and accepting golf and ski trips and dinners from - oil company employees, according to three reports released Wednesday by the Interior Department’s inspector general.

“This all shows the oil industry holds shocking sway over the administration and even key federal employees,” said Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla. “This is why we must not allow big oil’s agenda to be jammed through Congress.

These are the people that support John McCain.

By TW

September 11, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

The choice of Biden shows genuine concern for our military - just like the GI Bill McCain voted against.

McCain’s selection of Palin, however, vetoed any thoughts that he was putting the war in front of his own selfish political wants. Not that anyone is surprised he’s chosen a woman to carry his water…

By Chris Salzmann

September 11, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

Jim,

Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Hillary would have been a good pick but she would never have passed the vetting process because Bill would never have agreed to document all the sources of funds he has received for his library and trust. Biden was the next best pick because his record is an open book. He’s Catholic and connects well with, how do you guys call it, “under-performing” democrats and independents.

As an independent supporting Obama (I supported Bush in 2000 and Kerry in 2004) I’m not in the least worried about the polls. This is a bounce for McCain and once the novelty of Palin wears off and as more unpleasant facts about her becaome known, i.e:

1) Supporting the Bridge to NoWhere 2) Her record earmarks 3) Her growing list of enemies within AK 4) A suspected marital affair 5) Her husband having belonged to a successionist group till 2002. 6) Her extreme views on abortion. 7) The fact that she will have to face the press to answer all these allegations.

ALSO, all polls are done by calling land line phones. Obama has a huge advantage in the 18-35 demographics. People in this demographic, like myself and my wife, are never called by pollsters because we rely on cell phones. I’m just amazed that he’s stayed ahead this long considering this giant gap that’s out there in collecting polling data. When it comes to electoral votes, Obama is also ahead.

It boils down to who I would rather be. The McCain Campaign and other Republicans (like yourself) have realized that you can’t battle on the issues so you have all resorted to Karl Rove type attacks to discredit Obama. The whole “Lipstick on a Pig” and the advert about Obama supporting comprehensive sex education for kindergartners is proof of that. The list goes on.

Its sad that politics and someone like McCaim who claim to know about “HONOR” have come to this. John McCain gained honor over 30 years ago. He’s banked it since and been living off the interest. The sad thing is that he’s now morally bankrupt.

By Citizen of the World

September 11, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

As more and more comes to light about Sarah Palin’s imperious, autocratic management style, she’s not going to look like such a smart choice.

By catlady

September 11, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

Biden is a good choice. Obama brings the flash and glitter, and Biden brings the experience. If Obama is unable to finish out the presidency, the country is in capable hands. I think the choice of Biden was certainly a calculated one, although not calculated as a deliberate pandering. Just an acknowledgement that Obama needs wise, experienced counsel.

Palin brings the flash and glitter to that ticket. Certainly other than being a POW McCain had none of that. The problem is, that is all she is. And if something happened to McCain…well, we can all finish that sentence. Her choice WAS deliberate pandering. There are many fine, experienced Republican women who could have been chosen, if what McCain wanted was a female. He got more than a two-fer with Palin.

By Hypocrisy101

September 11, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

Let’s look at some more Republican hypocrisy, shall we?

Boortz producer getting Web heat over Crocs suit

Usually, it’s “Neal Boortz Show” executive producer Belinda Skelton’s boss who is the target of angry blog comments. But the poison keyboards turned on the Atlanta mom Wednesday after the media began reporting on her family’s lawsuit against Crocs footwear filed in U.S. District Court. The suit filed by Skelton’s husband, Clark Meyer, is asking for $2 million after the couple’s 4-year-old son (shown below) was injured last month at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport when the popular plastic footwear he was wearing got caught in a moving escalator.

Multiple toes were broken on their son’s right foot and his big toe came “within millimeters” of being lost.

“It was the most traumatic thing I’ve ever been through as a parent,” she said. “If some of these bloggers had to lie next to my son at night and listen as he has nightmares, maybe they would feel differently. My husband and I are struggling a lot right now.”

Now, what about frivolous lawsuits Republicans are always railing against. Do I think this lawsuit is frivolus? No, but many Republicans would.

And what about caps on lawsuits Republicans are always railing against.

$2 million for a kid’s toes? C’mon Belinda, a kids toes can’t be worth more than - say - $10,000. They’re really small. $15,000 max.

I especially like the quote by Belinda. It’s traumatic and they’re struggling with it. But does that mean you deserve money? Not according to Republicans.

Kinda like the sleaze, Tom Delay. Remember him? The one that trashed lawyers every chance he got and tried often for tort reform. Didn’t stop his family from filing suit on a tram company that was repsponsible for his father’s death. Tried to get all they could get. No caps for them!!

The hypocrisy continues……..

By McCain - Palin 08/12

September 11, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Though Gov. Palin originally supported the earmark spending on the Ketchikan bridge (“to nowhere), she eventually killed the project, chosing to spend Federal money on other infrasturcture programs.

Read it again and again and AGAIN until it sinks in, you stupid liberal moonbats wetting your beds over Palin. You are going to lose. Keep the attacks up, please. It will so help her and McCain win.

By Cornbread Fred

September 11, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

Greetings, Jim! You too, JBMLaw! Sorry I’ve been off the board for so long, hope everyone is well. This election is like any other, both sides only concerned for their own party being in power rather than the good of America. Everyone I know is all starry-eyed over Sarah Palin even though it is common knowledge that her Great Speech was written by republican party stooge Matthew Scully. And as usual the Other Party is no better. People please! Let’s get America together and flush the two-party mess. I would recommend reading the seven points of How To Recognize Propaganda - available on the internet.

By McCain - Palin 08/12

September 11, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

We’ll compare Palin’s earmarks to that of any of you liberals and day of the week. Bring that s—t on, liberal girlie men.

By catlady

September 11, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

Biden is a good choice. Obama brings the flash and glitter, and Biden brings the experience. If Obama is unable to finish out the presidency, the country is in capable hands. I think the choice of Biden was certainly a calculated one, although not calculated as a deliberate pandering. Just an acknowledgement that Obama needs wise, experienced counsel.

Palin brings the flash and glitter to that ticket. Certainly other than being a POW McCain had none of that. The problem is, that is all she is. And if something happened to McCain…well, we can all finish that sentence. Her choice WAS deliberate pandering. There are many fine, experienced Republican women who could have been chosen, if what McCain wanted was a female. He got more than a two-fer with Palin.

By Talks

September 11, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

In agreement with Chris Salzmann @ 9:07

You do not hear McCain/Palin discussing issues. The trade deficit is at a 16 month high. Unemployment is over 6% as jobless claims are continuing to rise. Yet, no one in the Republican party seems to want to make any comments on these issues. Why is that Mr. Wooten? The only thing you hear from Republicans is “Drill baby Drill”. Why is there no discussion of issues that are affecting a multitude of Americans? I hope we Americans wake up and dismiss the propoganda that is being touted by the Republican mouthpieces. If McCain’s plan works, let that be the factor that allows him to win the election. I know if you are very wealthy, McCain is the person for you. But whare ppl really that selfish in that they want to majority of the Citizens of this Great country to struggle, just for their own sakes?

By Churchill

September 11, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

What’s the Pig Deal? With a phony flap and a misleading attack ad, the McCain campaign sinks into silliness.

IT’S HARD to think of a presidential campaign with a wider chasm between the seriousness of the issues confronting the country and the triviality, so far anyway, of the political discourse. On a day when the Congressional Budget Office warned of looming deficits and a grim economic outlook, when the stock market faltered even in the wake of the government’s rescue of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, when President Bush discussed the road ahead in Iraq and Afghanistan, on what did the campaign of Sen. John McCain spend its energy? A conference call to denounce Sen. Barack Obama for using the phrase “lipstick on a pig” and a new television ad accusing the Democrat of wanting to teach kindergartners about sex before they learn to read.

Mr. Obama’s supposedly offending remark was not only not offensive — it also was not directed at Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. “The other side, suddenly, they’re saying ‘we’re for change too,’ ” Mr. Obama said. “You can put lipstick on a pig. It’s still a pig.” With a woman on the ticket, apparently all references to cosmetics — or pork of the non-bridge variety, for that matter — are forbidden. “Sen. Obama owes Gov. Palin an apology,” sniffed former Massachusetts governor Jane Swift. “Calling a very prominent female governor of one of our states a pig is not exactly what we want to see.” No matter that Mr. McCain used the lipstick-on-a-pig phrase himself, referring to (female) Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s health-care plan, or that (female) former McCain aide Torie Clarke wrote a book with that title. In the heat of a campaign, operatives will pounce on any misstep and play to the referees over any arguable foul. We understand that, and certainly the Obama campaign has not been above such tactics. But this cynical use of the gender card is unusually silly.

The kindergarten sex ad, exhuming an argument that Republican Alan Keyes used against Mr. Obama in his 2004 Senate race, was equally ridiculous. “Obama’s one accomplishment?” the narrator asks. “Legislation to teach ‘comprehensive sex education’ — to kindergartners. Learning about sex before learning to read? Barack Obama: wrong on education. Wrong for your family.” As a state senator, Mr. Obama voted for — though he did not sponsor — a measure that set out standards for non-mandatory sex and health education. It required that instruction be “age and developmentally appropriate” and allowed parents to have their children opt out. To call this an accomplishment seems a departure for a campaign that was insisting just last week that Mr. Obama had no legislation to his credit, conveniently ignoring his significant work on a lobbying reform bill. Mr. Obama’s support for the Illinois measure seems both reasonable and relatively unimportant.

John McCain is a serious man who promised to wage a serious campaign. Win or lose, will he be able to look back on this one with pride? Right now, it’s hard to see how.

By songbird

September 11, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

I don’t ususally cut and paste stuff into blogs, but I think this time it’s warranted. Deepak Chopra is one of the most insightful people on the planet and his words below speak volumes about the American people and the choice we have to make this November.

Obama and The Palin Effect

Subject: Deepak Chopra: Obama and The Palin Effect

Obama and The Palin Effect From: Deepak Chopra | Posted: September 4th, 2008

Sometimes politics has the uncanny effect of mirroring the national psyche even when nobody intended to do that. This is perfectly illustrated by the rousing effect that Gov. Sarah Palin had on the Republican convention in Minneapolis this week. On the surface, she outdoes former Vice President Dan Quayle as an unlikely choice, given her negligent parochial expertise in the complex affairs of governing. Her state of Alaska has less than 700,000 residents, which reduces the job of governor to the scale of running one-tenth of New York City. By comparison, Rudy Giuliani is a towering international figure. Palin’s pluck has been admired, and her forthrightness, but her real appeal goes deeper.

She is the reverse of Barack Obama, in essence his shadow, deriding his idealism and exhorting people to obey their worst impulses. In psychological terms the shadow is that part of the psyche that hides out of sight, countering our aspirations, virtue, and vision with qualities we are ashamed to face: anger, fear, revenge, violence, selfishness, and suspicion of “the other.” For millions of Americans, Obama triggers those feelings, but they don’t want to express them. He is calling for us to reach for our higher selves, and frankly, that stirs up hidden reactions of an unsavory kind. (Just to be perfectly clear, I am not making a verbal play out of the fact that Sen. Obama is black. The shadow is a metaphor widely in use before his arrival on the scene.)

I recognize that psychological analysis of politics is usually not welcome by the public, but I believe such a perspective can be helpful here to understand Palin’s message. In her acceptance speech Gov. Palin sent a rousing call to those who want to celebrate their resistance to change and a higher vision.

Look at what she stands for:

—Small town values — a denial of America’s global role, a return to petty, small-minded parochialism.

—Ignorance of world affairs — a repudiation of the need to repair America’s image abroad.

—Family values — a code for walling out anybody who makes a claim for social justice. Such strangers, being outside the family, don’t need to be heeded.

—Rigid stands on guns and abortion — a scornful repudiation that these issues can be negotiated with those who disagree.

—Patriotism — the usual fallback in a failed war.

—“Reform” — an italicized term, since in addition to cleaning out corruption and excessive spending, one also throws out anyone who doesn’t fit your ideology.

Palin reinforces the overall message of the reactionary right, which has been in play since 1980, that social justice is liberal-radical, that minorities and immigrants, being different from “us” pure American types, can be ignored, that progressivism takes too much effort and globalism is a foreign threat. The radical right marches under the banners of “I’m all right, Jack,” and “Why change? Everything’s OK as it is.” The irony, of course, is that Gov. Palin is a woman and a reactionary at the same time. She can add mom to apple pie on her resume, while blithely reversing forty years of feminist progress. The irony is superficial; there are millions of women who stand on the side of conservatism, however obviously they are voting against their own good. The Republicans have won multiple national elections by raising shadow issues based on fear, rejection, hostility to change, and narrow-mindedness.

Obama’s call for higher ideals in politics can’t be seen in a vacuum. The shadow is real; it was bound to respond. Not just conservatives possess a shadow — we all do. So what comes next is a contest between the two forces of progress and inertia. Will the shadow win again, or has its furtive appeal become exhausted? No one can predict. The best thing about Gov. Palin is that she brought this conflict to light, which makes the upcoming debate honest. It would be a shame to elect another Reagan, whose smiling persona was a stalking horse for the reactionary forces that have brought us to the demoralized state we are in. We deserve to see what we are getting, without disguise.

By Road Scholar

September 11, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this

Have you ever thought that Hillary did not want to play second fiddle to Obama? People with that strong drive usually will not accept a second and subserviant position. And what about Bill and the place that that would put him? Wouldn’t he have to be “muzzled” if she was selected?

While I agree that vetting her (and Bill) could unearth some issues (whether Rovian or justified), her playing an “also ran” roll is not what I would expect from her.

Jim ,I must also take offense to your headline on whether Obama “blow it” when referrring to the selection of a woman and her husband’s illicet affair. Poor choice of words. If you weren’t irrelavent, maybe the press would divert their total attention and cover you just like “Lipstickgate”. I find this just as sexually biased if you use the Repubs gross and stupid tactics and justifications.

Get on to the issues this country needs to address before we go down the drain. All great societies, esp democracies, have not lasted more than 400 years, due to infighting, lack of focus on the real issues and implementing meaningful solutions.

By Churchill

September 11, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

Why does the GOP hate Blacks?

MSNBC weighs in on Rick Goddard Thursday, September 11, 2008, 09:02 AM

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

On a radio/Internet/cable TV program in Macon last week, 8th District congressional candidate Rick Goddard called a black MSNBC reporter “uppity” for posing to Newt Gingrich a question about Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin’s qualifications.

MSNBC answered last night.

Keith Olbermann, back to full-time commentating after being dumped as one of two anchor’s for the network’s political news nights, declared Goddard — who’s challenging Democratic incumbent Jim Marshall of Macon — to be “the worst person in the world.”

By Liberal Cowardice 201

September 11, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Boortz just slammed you people on these blogs who have been hating on Belinda. Well then why don’t one of you cowards just call up his show and make a comment like 9:16? I’m sure Boortz would love to have you on and move you to the head of the line. Go ahead, cowards.

Speaking of cowards, how many liberal Democrats are going to stick their heads in the sand today and pretend like 9/11 didn’t happen this morning seven years ago and say that Republicans are remembering it too much for political reasons? I see that Woodward and his left wing henchmen had another timely “report” about the security of the US. Those are of the same likes who say we should sit by and do nothing when Iran builds nukes and when we put missile defense systems in eastern Europe and now the UAE. I don’t think they have much credibility in telling us about how safe we are.

By songbird

September 11, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

I don’t ususally cut and paste stuff into blogs, but I think this time it’s warranted. Deepak Chopra is one of the most insightful people on the planet and his words below speak volumes about the American people and the choice we have to make this November.

Obama and The Palin Effect

Subject: Deepak Chopra: Obama and The Palin Effect

Obama and The Palin Effect From: Deepak Chopra | Posted: September 4th, 2008

Sometimes politics has the uncanny effect of mirroring the national psyche even when nobody intended to do that. This is perfectly illustrated by the rousing effect that Gov. Sarah Palin had on the Republican convention in Minneapolis this week. On the surface, she outdoes former Vice President Dan Quayle as an unlikely choice, given her negligent parochial expertise in the complex affairs of governing. Her state of Alaska has less than 700,000 residents, which reduces the job of governor to the scale of running one-tenth of New York City. By comparison, Rudy Giuliani is a towering international figure. Palin’s pluck has been admired, and her forthrightness, but her real appeal goes deeper.

She is the reverse of Barack Obama, in essence his shadow, deriding his idealism and exhorting people to obey their worst impulses. In psychological terms the shadow is that part of the psyche that hides out of sight, countering our aspirations, virtue, and vision with qualities we are ashamed to face: anger, fear, revenge, violence, selfishness, and suspicion of “the other.” For millions of Americans, Obama triggers those feelings, but they don’t want to express them. He is calling for us to reach for our higher selves, and frankly, that stirs up hidden reactions of an unsavory kind. (Just to be perfectly clear, I am not making a verbal play out of the fact that Sen. Obama is black. The shadow is a metaphor widely in use before his arrival on the scene.)

I recognize that psychological analysis of politics is usually not welcome by the public, but I believe such a perspective can be helpful here to understand Palin’s message. In her acceptance speech Gov. Palin sent a rousing call to those who want to celebrate their resistance to change and a higher vision.

Look at what she stands for:

—Small town values — a denial of America’s global role, a return to petty, small-minded parochialism.

—Ignorance of world affairs — a repudiation of the need to repair America’s image abroad.

—Family values — a code for walling out anybody who makes a claim for social justice. Such strangers, being outside the family, don’t need to be heeded.

—Rigid stands on guns and abortion — a scornful repudiation that these issues can be negotiated with those who disagree.

—Patriotism — the usual fallback in a failed war.

—“Reform” — an italicized term, since in addition to cleaning out corruption and excessive spending, one also throws out anyone who doesn’t fit your ideology.

Palin reinforces the overall message of the reactionary right, which has been in play since 1980, that social justice is liberal-radical, that minorities and immigrants, being different from “us” pure American types, can be ignored, that progressivism takes too much effort and globalism is a foreign threat. The radical right marches under the banners of “I’m all right, Jack,” and “Why change? Everything’s OK as it is.” The irony, of course, is that Gov. Palin is a woman and a reactionary at the same time. She can add mom to apple pie on her resume, while blithely reversing forty years of feminist progress. The irony is superficial; there are millions of women who stand on the side of conservatism, however obviously they are voting against their own good. The Republicans have won multiple national elections by raising shadow issues based on fear, rejection, hostility to change, and narrow-mindedness.

Obama’s call for higher ideals in politics can’t be seen in a vacuum. The shadow is real; it was bound to respond. Not just conservatives possess a shadow — we all do. So what comes next is a contest between the two forces of progress and inertia. Will the shadow win again, or has its furtive appeal become exhausted? No one can predict. The best thing about Gov. Palin is that she brought this conflict to light, which makes the upcoming debate honest. It would be a shame to elect another Reagan, whose smiling persona was a stalking horse for the reactionary forces that have brought us to the demoralized state we are in. We deserve to see what we are getting, without disguise.

By Chris Salzmann

September 11, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

By McCain - Palin 08/12 September 11, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this Though Gov. Palin originally supported the earmark spending on the Ketchikan bridge (“to nowhere), she eventually killed the project, chosing to spend Federal money on other infrasturcture programs. Read it again and again and AGAIN until it sinks in, you stupid liberal moonbats wetting your beds over Palin. You are going to lose. Keep the attacks up, please. It will so help her and McCain win.

So why is she claiming she said THANKS BUT NO THANKS TO CONGRESS??? Every Republican talking head on TV is denying she ever supported the Bridge. Yes, she killed it after the “Bridge to NoWhere” had become a national joke. But she kept the money though, didn’t she?

What she should be saying was, I STOPPED SUPPORTING THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE BUT THANKS FOR THE MONEY BECAUSE WE”RE KEEPING IT!

The bottom line here is she didn’t do the American Tax Payer any favors by deciding to finally cancel that bridge because SHE KEPT THE MONEY!

CAN YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL???

By Concerned Voter

September 11, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

I was giving Palin the benefit of the doubt… I could have seen myself voting for her when I first saw and heard her. She seemed like everything this nation needs. But now I am concerned. It seems like everything she brags about is a tad inflated. Like her pipeline story… this was in the Boston Globe:

“Stretching more than 1,700 miles, it would deliver natural gas from the North Slope of Alaska to the lower 48 states and be the largest private-sector infrastructure project on the continent. Palin has asserted the pipeline will help lead America toward energy independence.

But while she was effective in attracting developers to a project that eluded Alaska governors for decades, an examination of the project found she has overstated both the progress that has been made and the certainty of success.

The pipeline exists only on paper. The first section has yet to be laid, federal approvals are years away, and the pipeline will not be completed for at least a decade.”

And it’s not just the pipeline… turns out it was not her idea to sell the Governor’s plane on e-bay and Alaskan government had been selling big ticket items on the site way before she was ever elected. And she is certainly a big fan of the earmarks she likes to slam. Makes me kinda jealous of the people of Alaska! If she had been a bit more humble about these stories and less of a “rockstar” bragging with the same lines in every speech I would have been more inclined to vote for her. But the more she speaks the less rings true for this voter.

Just my 2 cents.

By SickOdis

September 11, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

McCain - Palin 08/12

So let me get this straight..If I’m a drug dealer and I make a mil selling dope, but rather than reinvesting my money in more “product” I decide I want to get out of the game, so I instead spend the money on better things like investments or real estate that’s cool???

That makes the fact that I got the money from shady dealings ok? Come on and give us that early mornning dose of hypocrisy and twisted logic you guys seem to do so well.

You gotta tell us! Entertain us. No, humor us!

By BS Aplenty

September 11, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

THE PARKING TICKET

The other day I went downtown to run a few errands. I went into the local coffee shop for a snack. I was only there for about 5 minutes and when I came out there was this cop writing out a parking ticket.

I said to him, ‘Come on, man, how about giving a retired person a break’? He ignored me and continued writing the ticket.

His insensitivity annoyed me, so I called him a ‘Commie’. He glared at me and then wrote out another ticket for having worn tires. So I proceeded to call him a ‘doughnut-eating KGB puppet’. He finished the second ticket and put it on the windshield with the first. Then he wrote a third ticket when I called him a ‘moron in blue’.

This went on for about 20 minutes. The more I talked back to him the more tickets he wrote.

Personally, I didn’t really care. I came downtown on the bus, and the car that he was putting the tickets on had one of those bumper stickers that said, ‘Obama in ‘08’.

I try to have a little fun each day now that I’m retired. The doctor tells me it’s important for my health.

-Col. (Ret.) K. R. Bell

By Churchill

September 11, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Given his performance in this campaign, what are the chances that McCain can accomplish anything that requires biparisan support? I would think the odds are very low. His scorched earth campaign are going to put him exactly where Bush is in terms of his ability to govern. Our problems are not going to get resolved because he has created a toxic environment.

By McCain - Palin 08/12

September 11, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Chris, stop yelling. We’ll be comparing Palin’s earmarks to that of you stupid liberals. Don’t you worry liberal girlie man. Keep the hate up, idiot. It helps your cause, really.

By Churchill

September 11, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

John McCain chose to swim with gutter rats when he chose the same man that used his adopted daughter against him in the 2000 primaries. Remember? GOP operatives, working with Karl Rove, sent out mailers insinuating that Senator McCain had an “illegitimate black baby.”

Senator McCain turned around and hired them!! Could you imagine, for one instance, hiring the person who trashed your family for political reasons?? Would you stand for that?

McCain embraced it and now we see what kind of opportunistic, pandering, lying politician Senator McCain REALLY is.

Pathetic. Is THIS how a would-be President behaves?

By norman ravitch

September 11, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

I suspect that short of Jesus Christ himself as VP Obama cannot win the presidency. It’s a matter of race and any realist has known this for a long time. The Democratic voters have been betrayed by their politically correct leaders.

By Jim is a caveman

September 11, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

McCain-Palin 08/12, the campaign and specifically Gov. Palin are telling America she told Congress “Thanks, but no thanks, to the Bridge to Nowhere”. Putting aside the fact she was for it before she was against it, and that she was wearing a tee shirt that said “I’m from Nowhere, Alaska”, how can she get away with that baldfaced lie? Yours at 9:20 says it, she took the money and used it for other projects. She didn’t give the money back, didn’t save the taxpayers anything except a bridge. She said, Thanks, I’ll take the money and use it the way I want to use it, particularly since no one but me and the Alaskan Congressional delegation like the idea of this bridge. How is that reform?

By lwwmm7

September 11, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Sure is good to see a positive message so early in the blog. Cornbread Fred is absolutely right about both parties; when it comes to pork and earmarks and lying and hypocrisy, there is not one bit of difference in the two. Rich dems and rich repubs both laugh all the way to the bank while they keep us arguing amongst ourselves like second-graders. Wake up, people, ever heard of the fall of the Roman Empire? That’s us.

By Chris Salzmann

September 11, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

By McCain - Palin 08/12 September 11, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this We’ll compare Palin’s earmarks to that of any of you liberals and day of the week. Bring that s—t on, liberal girlie men.

LOL…..dude, we liberals never claimed to be fiscal conservatives. Here’ my point:

“DON’T CALL YOURSELF A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE WHEN YOUR STATE HAS THE HIGHEST EARMARKS PER CITIZEN THAN ANY OTHER STATE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA”

So, as a rule, liberals don’t claim that crown. It’s always funny when Republicans do when their record reflects otherwise.

On final point about conservatives being Fiscally Conservative:

WHAT WAS OUR NATIONAL DEBT 8 YEARS AGO IN 2000? WHAT IS IT NOW?

SO MUCH FOR THE REPUBLICAN FISCAL CONSERVATIVE MYTH!

By TexGEOas

September 11, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Gosh, Wooten… Do you have any ORIGINAL thoughts? This little article of yours is just filled with observations already written and said by others. Is this the best you can do? I know its a common liberal practice to regurgitate over and over and over… but you get PAID for this?

A sincere THANK YOU to all you Palin haters here. Every one of your vile attacks helps get another vote for the McCain-Palin ticket. Keep up the good work. Don’t let up. And remember to go vote on November 5th.

By Road Scholar

September 11, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

McC/P 8/12: While she stopped the bridge project, she did so because it would need additional funds. When she couldn’t get them through earmarks, and wouldn’t spend the extra $300 million from state and local sources, she canned the project.

But why didn’t she return the money, since 1) it was an earmark, and 2) it wasn’t being used on the intended purpose? She instead used it to fund roads leading up to the bridge site, and has kept the remainder on their DOT’s books. For what? Again, why didn’t she return the money to show her disdain for earmarks? Now that would be a maverick example instead of the legislative welfare action she took.

Talks: Right on!

As for the legislation in Illinois that passed with huge support (over 90%) from all partys, if McCain/Palin/Repubs are against it, does that mahe them child molesters or supporters of pedophiles? Sorry their Rovian tactics are starting to take over an eduacated mind. Purge! Purge! Purge! Oh, now I feel better!

By kimmer

September 11, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

“Obama brings the ‘flash and glitter’ and Biden the experience? Are you kidding me? Can you say scary? Shouldn’t the ‘experience’ be at the top of the ticket and not the bottom?

And while we are talking about experience, you libs like to denigrate Palin’s experience of leading a paltry little 700K population state but hey at least she has executive experience in leading SOMETHING. Obama has never even so much as chaired a committee meeting in his senate career! And he is at the TOP of the ticket!!!

By NothingButHypocrites

September 11, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Hypocrisy101 -

THANK YOU THANK YOU AND THANK YOU!!!!

I saw that article and was just about to post about it myself.

By All Hogwash

September 11, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

“Atlanta police have made a handful of arrests at three city intersections known as gathering spots for transvestite prostitutes.

Police arrested five men, most of them dressed as women, in the early-morning hours Friday, the reports said.”

* These are the same people that support Barak Obama!*

Riduculous! Yes. But no more ridiculous than saying that “13 Interior Department employees in Denver and Washington.” who traded sex for favors are supporters of John McCain.

By-the-way, there is no such thing as Bush/McCain/Palin. Bush will soon be out and McCain/Palin will be in.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Deepak Chopra is one of the most insightful people on the planet

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA …. HEEEEE HEEEE HEEEEEEEEEE …. LMFAO ….. TOO FREAKING FUNNY!!!

BEWILDERED NEW AGE NUTTER ALERT!!!

Cheers love for that fabulous, huge snigger

Chopra is one of the very worst vile simpering GIMME GIMME narcissistic LIARS!! Note how the famous new age leeches ALWAYS puke up flowery gushing testimonials about each others’ cliche ridden books.

New Age Nausea is ALL Chopra is a master of. He has puked up and reworked the same old load of worthless bollux in numerous books. All the usual new age witless drivel cynically mixed with the requisite cliche mongering mysticism.

How ANYONE of normal intelligence can fall this crap in beyond me. ACTUALLY - I (wittily) LIED … MOST IF NOT ALL OF THEM ARE LIBERALS~~~ which of course means they aren’t any where close to being of “normal intelligence”.

Credit where credit is due though he has very cleverly systematically fleeced millions of morons out of millions - usually stupid naive women who DESPERATELY want to believe his oilyIndiangobshite!!

http://skepdic.com/chopra.html

http://www.quackwatch.com/04ConsumerEducation/chopra.html

By Deron

September 11, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

I read a failed war, Palin’s small town politics, 6% jobless rate and much more. 1st off, the war wasn’t a failure - watch the real news just once (FoxNews), we won the war and we stop the taliban. 2 - at least she has small town politics, damn! Obama has nothing to run on other than he got Hollywood to back him, which equals nothing. The jobless rate, well if the people of New Orleans would get off their a* and stop asking for gov’t hand outs and the black communities would make an effort to aim a little higher than working at McDonalds, we wouldn’t have such a high jobless rate. My employees are all from the black regions of atlanta. They all say the same thing, I can’t work more than so many hours because I will not be eligible for govt assistance. Work more hours and you wouldn’t need govt assistance. Obama should have chosen Hillary and this election would be over, but he didn’t he chose someone who has been doing the same crap for 35 years, not much change there. BS Aplenty…that was awesome! I’m going to do the same thing. I can’t wait until McCain is elected, just so I can rub in the face of all you liberal scum/communist! You want McCain as president, we need McCain as president. Obama couldn’t even answer Bill O’Reilly’s questions without stalling. He will fail horribly, if he was ever elected president. McCain the choice of African Americans ever where!

By NothingButHypocrites

September 11, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Hypocrisy101 -

THANK YOU THANK YOU AND THANK YOU!!!!

I saw that article and was just about to post about it myself.

By ATaste of..

September 11, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

songbird that narrative in your post is some of the best analysis I have read on this subject.

You know what’s too bad though? The very people who fit that bill will only write this guy and his analysis off as “liberal”..That’s it, slap a label on it and you don’t have to deal with the content or context.

Great stuff.

By Clint

September 11, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

With each passing day we see a demonstration of the very essence and definition of the Republiscum Party. Lies, deceit, assassination. Win at all costs - and to hell with the welfare and condition of the Nation. Shameful little people with equally shameful little minds and souls.

By tcoach

September 11, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

All of you saying Biden was a good choice do know that he (Biden) said Hillary was a better pick for VP. If he does not believe it then why do you?

By bearcasey

September 11, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Makes me laugh. My first wife, daughter of a prominet Ga. Republican politician back in the days before it was cool to be a Repub. in Ga., used to call Gingrich “Newt the Poot.” She and her dad recognized Newt as a wet fart careerist even back in those days. And we should take advie from this guy? Sheeeesh!

By CJ

September 11, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Apples to Apples, Biden has a lot more relevant experience than Palin. He is far more capable and qualified to lead our country should the President die. As a Hillary Clinton supporter, I wish it had been her instead, but Biden was and will be a fine choice for VP!

By Not Chicken Little

September 11, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Why are all the liberal blowhard posts so d—n long? Are all liberals windbags/gasbags?

If brevity is indeed the soul of wit, the liberals posting here are all witless. The ones whose posts are not quite as long are half-wits.

By Analchord

September 11, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

I cant handle the grief and bitterness and hatred I feel when I consider those victims of 911 on those four planes. The victims in the Buildings I cant think about at all. It’s too big, and too much for my little brain to comprehend. But those people in those four planes who just wanted to go home….My Blood boils, and I really have a tough time not hating all arabs and all of Islam. Then I think about getting even with the total terrorist who caused 911 and I think of sending our troops to Afghanistan and surrounding him and his thugs, Al Queda, and then…..

What did finally happen? Did we get him? Someone go ask Rummy and Cheney.

I know Bush ordered the attack on Al Queda and OBL in Afghanistan. That was the shining moment of his administration. What did finally happen?

It hasn’t been fully explained to me yet.

BTW: What is the mission of US troops in Afghanistan?

911 08: I still cant handle it. I’ll never be able to handle it.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this

With each passing day we see a demonstration of the very essence and definition of the Republiscum Party. Lies, deceit, assassination. Win at all costs - and to hell with the welfare and condition of the Nation. Shameful little people with equally shameful little minds and souls.

HOW COME BUSH-CHENEY MISSED U then BUBBATURD??? … huge I hate lefties snigger

Doubtless most the leftist scum on here will belatedly step up to the intellectual honesty plate and CONDEMN this unprovoked moveyourbowels.org/code pinKKKo type hate and, like the anal anally unfunny stalKKKer from yesterday demand that Senor Wooten IMMEDIATELY BAN THIS FAR LEFT HATEPIG!!! (note my deliberate use of sardonic ironic sarcasm)

By Dissector

September 11, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

I cannot understand for the life of me how norman ravitch could even raise its fingers to type such garbage.

Are you saying that Obama was some “affirmative action” candidate or something?

Have you forgotten that he won fair and square the Democratic Presidential Primary the same way all candidates do? Using the nominating system of delegates? And the only reason Hillary won Ohio and Texas was due to crossover voting of Republicans?

I take it you feel that because (of your admission - and it is true BTW) that america still has issues of racism that there will or should never be a time for a Black president??

How is the heck can you call this a “betrayal”?? I get it.. you wanted the DNC to not give the candidate who won the race in accordance with the established rules the fair opportunity in favor of the one who “looked better”. Why?? Because he is Black.

You are part of the problem really.

By Not Chicken Little

September 11, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

Why are all the liberal blowhard posts so d—n long? Are all liberals windbags/gasbags?

If brevity is indeed the soul of wit, the liberals posting here are all witless. The ones whose posts are not quite as long are half-wits.

By ron

September 11, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

Good morning,I believe that I just read that Biden said Hillary would probably have been a better VP pick than himself.

Today we remember.That’s about all that we can do as individuals.No,I don’t remember where I was or what I was doing when I heard about it.I do remember exactly where I was when I heard about Jack Kennedy.That’s another anniversary that’s coming up.

The Russians are in Venezuela.With bombers.Somebody actually asked them if they were armed.I would say yes.Hugo Chavez wants to drive one of the bombers.That should be a comforting thought.

Jim,It’s my hope that Obama blew it when he selected Biden.It’s also my hope that Obama blew it when he ran for president.Hillary had a lot of support and I hope that most of them vote for McCain.She was the obvious choice for VP.I’m glad for her that she wasn’t chosen.See,I’m campaigning for hope too.It’s easy.

By Barbara_Open _Bush

September 11, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

NO BECAUSE

PALIN CHARGES WOMEN WHO WANT TO REPORT A RAPE CASE.

By Dusty

September 11, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Awww let’s ignore the long cut’n’paste jobs and the propaganda crowd on the Dem news line this morning. How about commenting on Jim’s subject, i.e. BIDEN.

Biden is just a good ol’ friendly guy who has been in the Senate a long time. A long time means experience. That was what the Obama camp thought they needed. But one thing keeps popping up. Biden is NOT the problem. It is OBAMA.

Obama may have a brain but he has barely used it in government. HE makes a good speech with a TELEPROMPTER. Without it, he exhibits foot’n’mouth failures that are noticeable. (Need I mention pig & lipstick?) His wife would scare a cat off a gut wagon by her words. (Excuse the truthful expression.) She too suffers from F & M disease. Obama STAYS in a defense mode trying to explain his minister, his associates, his muslim school and family in Indonesia.

IN his book, he explains his early drug and alcohol abuse. All this the Democrats decided to ignore with the hope that others would forget. OBAMA IS THE PROBLEM, NOT BIDEN.

Democrats then decided hate and obfucation was the best way to go. Deride age, cancer, family values, children, pregnancy and most of all, a happy “complete”woman who has already shown the strength to govern. Then they TRY to diminish a man for serving his country in the military.

It doesn’t work. Americans are repulsed.

Stay happy, Biden. You’ve been asked to cross the Grand Canyon with a crippled donkey.

By Dutchman

September 11, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

FOlks,

I hear that BHO is a candidate for change, then why did he pick someone with more time in Congress than McCain - That is not a set up for change, just a continuation of the same old Democratic game plan.

It appears that BHO has caved into the leaders of the Democratic party.

Take away secret ballots from workers who might want to, or not, be represented by unions. Hey that is a grand idea - and we can let Bruno collect the non secret cards.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 11, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

No. I think McCain blew it when he did his eeny meeny miny moe catch a Christian Facist by the toe and picked Sarah “end of times” Palin!

Palin is the lipstick….McCain policies are the pigs!

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

911 08: I still cant handle it. I’ll never be able to handle it.

WELL THEN STFU … BUGGER OFF AND NEVER COME BACK … U vile self absorbed self centred dogturd.

… IF ONLY!!!!!

By WTF???

September 11, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Deron

When you are engaged in a conversation or asked to explain something do you ever “stall”? Or do you just like a machine rattle off preprogrammed responses.

I “stall” all the time, and I do consider myself to be pretty intelligent (along with most people I know and interact with). You see… when a person “stalls” it usually means they are actually thinking about what they are saying when they say it.

You remember sitting in school (hopefully you attended), the dumbest kids were always the ones who said absolutely nothing in class, or gave short dumb sounding answers??…and how you would get really upset at the brainy kid who always seemed to give these long drawn out responses to questions?…or asked seemingly ridiculously detailed questions??

Bingo! Don’t be so trivial…and please pardon my “elitism”.

By c'est moi

September 11, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

The question to ask is: did the democrats blow it by picking Obama?

By Barbara_Open _Bush

September 11, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

IT MAKES SENSE TO ME TO KNOW THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PALIN AND A BULL DOG IS LIPSTICK..

PALIN CHARGE MONEY TO ALL WOMEN REPORTING EVERY RAPE CASE IN ALASKA.

KNOCK KNOCK REPUBLICANS KNOCK KNOCK

By pekopper

September 11, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

I don’t believe Hillary would have been a good pick for Obama. I know what tricks the Right Wing plays, and they can speak of Obama ommitting her as armchair quarterbacks now. However, Palin is nothing more than a figure-head. She has no ability to think on her own. Just look at the armies of Repulican Hacks trying to school her simply for the purpose of answering a question to a reporter. Look at the pock-faced Gibson who was hand picked to “interview” her. It’s a sham and the American people truly deserve allot more than the garbage Republicans dish out. It shows their utter disrespect for the people of this country.

However, I do believe that Obama shoud have picked a woman as a running mate. Not just any woamn, nor Hillary Clinton, but someone like (or more specifically) Caroline Kennedy. She would have played a tradtional ribbon-cutting role while at the same time galvanizing liberals, moderates, catholics, independents… The list goes on.

The biggest problem with the Democrats is that they’re too conservative. They are fearful of change. They are constantly trying to satisfy the small-time thinkers out there in the electorate.

The difference between a Palin and a Kennedy is that Palin, the lipschticked moose burger can’t hold a candle to the even-tempered and liberal Kennedy.

Until Democrats get some balls and return to their roots as Progressives, isloate the fascist wing of the Republican Party, and be proud of the vast accomplishment attributed to the Progressive Movement, the Party will essentially go nowhere. They will forever be mired in the never-never land of mushy DLC “Republicans”, timid representatives of what should be a great and important stride into the 21st Century…, they will be dead in the water. They need to join with the Nader Wing and throw off corporatism and return government to the representatives of the People. Only then can Democrats gain back what they have spent the last 30-plus years frittering away.

So if things do not change expect a solidified Fascist-controlled Federal Government, an expanded authoritarian America and continual war. The choice for American goes beyone what the numbkulls in the electorate define as exciting and fresh. It is about us, the people of the United Staes, who just so happen to be under attack from a Right Wing Juggernaut right now. Fight the pigs (the ones that wear lipstick, as well as those that do not), or die trying.

By Jay Black

September 11, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

Ah…..I get it now. Newt basically says that Palin was picked because Hillary was NOT picked by Obama. If Hillary was picked, then Palin wouldn’t be worth anything? So what makes her worth anything now? Would Palin not have these same qualities if Hillary was on the Obama ticket?

The question is would Palin be a better VP than Biden? Personally I think not….I mean……the woman just obtained her passport a few months ago. How much foreign policy experience can you have with no passport? I wouldn’t discount Biden at all. He is a strong pick and proves that Obama isn’t a “win at all costs” guy with no substance. He knows he probably can’t trust Hillary (and her husband) to fall back into the VP role. She probably wouldn’t agree to be in Obama’s shadow and most likely try to take over or undermine his campaign. Palin is the anti Hillary. She’s submissive (as she hasn’t talked to the media yet and repeats over and over again whatever McCain tells her to say. The only time she has been turned lose is in Alaska for pete’s sake!), and a robot for the republican party as she was picked solely to offset the Hillary supporters and not to run the country in lieu of the President (as Biden is sensibly picked to do).

By Tim

September 11, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Great piece, but I’d have to say that the Dems made the biggest mistake in nominating 0bama. If Hillary had been nominated, she’d have made the shrewd political decision to add 0bama as VP.

By Hypocrisy101

September 11, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

By Liberal Cowardice 201 September 11, 2008 9:36 AM

Boortz just slammed you people on these blogs who have been hating on Belinda.

So if you point out hypocrisy, that means you hate them? hmmmmm.

Well then why don’t one of you cowards just call up his show and make a comment like 9:16? I’m sure Boortz would love to have you on and move you to the head of the line. Go ahead, cowards.

Why would anyone want to call in to a blowhard’s radio show when he has total control to talk over you and mute your response at the touch of a button. Got to be the easiest job on earth. With that much control, you can make anybody look bad. There is no bigger coward than Pillhead Limbaugh. A prime example. Boortz is a close 2nd.

Speaking of cowards, how many liberal Democrats are going to stick their heads in the sand today and pretend like 9/11 didn’t happen this morning seven years ago and say that Republicans are remembering it too much for political reasons?

You mean like showing the towers crumbling down during the RNC “tribute” last week? Wonder how that made the families feel to see those towers fall again? What kind of “tribute” is that?

A political one, of course. It can’t be called anything else.

Sad

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 11, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

No

McCain blew it when he picked The Queen of Pork Sarah

So What Did Palin Request in Federal Earmarks? Seal DNA Research!

By Barbara_Open _Bush

September 11, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

IT MAKES SENSE TO ME TO KNOW THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PALIN AND A BULL DOG IS LIPSTICK..

PALIN CHARGE MONEY TO ALL WOMEN REPORTING EVERY RAPE CASE IN ALASKA.

KNOCK KNOCK REPUBLICANS KNOCK KNOCK

WHERE ARE THE ERA WOMEN

NOW YOU SEE THE GRASS IS NOT GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE, NOW WHAT?

By Harsh Truth

September 11, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Not Chicken Little

Like no brains

Love sheep

Oonga Boonga!

By LOOK PEOPLE

September 11, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this

Thinking further. People, Democrats and Republicans think each other is the problem. I think the true powers that be have successfully placed blinders over all of our eyes. A strong, unified nation would prompt TRUE CHANGE. Yet, both sides bicker and point fingers at the other side. Just look at the remarks on this and other blogs everyday. Cynicism, race baiting, name calling. You name it, it is evident in this blog. It is really a microcosm of what the true issue is. Did Rome know it was falling when it was falling????

By Jim Hall

September 11, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

The Republicans are great at lies, spin and propaganda. Too bad they are absolutely incompetent at running the U.S. government. George W. Bush is a historically bad president. With all that is going wrong right now such as the economy, the war and energy crisis, why would anyone consider giving the Republicans four more years? And those of you that complain constantly about oil prices just remember this: when you vote for a Republican from Alaska you are voting for the oil companies. Take out your dictionary and look up the word oligarcy. If that is the kind of government that you want then vote for the Republicans.

By Jim Hall

September 11, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

The Republicans are great at lies, spin and propaganda. Too bad they are absolutely incompetent at running the U.S. government. George W. Bush is a historically bad president. With all that is going wrong right now such as the economy, the war and energy crisis, why would anyone consider giving the Republicans four more years? And those of you that complain constantly about oil prices just remember this: when you vote for a Republican from Alaska you are voting for the oil companies. Take out your dictionary and look up the word oligarcy. If that is the kind of government that you want then vote for the Republicans.

By Dutchman

September 11, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

Jay Black,

Seems Sarah Palin visited Kuwait back in July 2007. Seems she was there before BHO as a candidate, decided to visit the area - interesting.

Seems she was visiting the Alaska National Guard.

She also visited the wounded military personnel in Landstuhl, Germany. Something BHO decided not to do.

By Jim Hall

September 11, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

The Republicans are great at lies, spin and propaganda. Too bad they are absolutely incompetent at running the U.S. government. George W. Bush is a historically bad president. With all that is going wrong right now such as the economy, the war and energy crisis, why would anyone consider giving the Republicans four more years? And those of you that complain constantly about oil prices just remember this: when you vote for a Republican from Alaska you are voting for the oil companies. Take out your dictionary and look up the word oligarcy. If that is the kind of government that you want then vote for the Republicans.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 11, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

No

McCain Blew it when he tapped a fundie-facist for Veep.

By Mike Vitacco

September 11, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

We’ll see in the VP debate who picked the right person. That’s why McCain’s VP is cramming like crazy now to come up to Biden’s experience level.

We will not be dressing a moose when we deal with the foreign issues that the US faces in the next 4 years!

By getalife "whiners"

September 11, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

No jim.

They blew it running Obama.

Clinton is a sure winner.

But let us remember this

After 7 years, the thousands have not received justice and obl is celebrating and planning his next big attack.

obl won and changed our country forever.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 11, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

No

McCain made a mistake running himself…

seems he covered up for Cindy

By Eric

September 11, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

Let me get this straight. Barack Obama, a black man, has to gain the trust of the American people because no one knows him. Sarah Palin, a white woman, we should trust and embrace right away even if we don’t know her. I don’t think so!

By The Truth

September 11, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Jim, I think you mispelled oligarchy. As in I wish the Republicans would stop trying to turn our republic into an oligarchy.

By The Truth

September 11, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Jim, I think you mispelled oligarchy. As in I wish the Republicans would stop trying to turn our republic into an oligarchy.

By The Truth

September 11, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

Jim, I think you mispelled oligarchy. As in I wish the Republicans would stop trying to turn our republic into an oligarchy.

By Dutchman

September 11, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

Running anything from the DailyKos as accreditation just shows how low the lefties have sunk.

I would not use the RNC website for that, I would find my proof from a news wire or something with a little bit of reputation for reporting the NEWS and not the sick stuff tht comes out of that website.

I now understand your handle, big, ugly and slow witted.

By Jim is a caveman

September 11, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Still waiting, McCain-Palin 08/12. It’s been an hour and a half since you were called out three times on the bridge to nowhere. Still no response to us “liberal girlie men” as you so childishly put it.

Deron, get some help, man. Fast.

By tcoach

September 11, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Eric one is running for president the other for VICE-president. You all have to understand that. Obama’s opponent is McCain, the more you try to make it Palin the lower he will sink in the polls. I feel I need to know more about the principle of my son’s school than the vice principle as well but I guess that makes me somehow racist though. By the way at my sons school the principle is an old white guy and both vice principles are black. But I gues since I am white that is somehow still racist

By BS Aplenty

September 11, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

WTF?? it is usually very telling to hear someone who must respond quickly to a journalist’s question. Like many “timed” tests, the candidate must not only respond correctly, but must also respond quickly. It’s a measure of one’s political intelligence AND instincts.

Obama just doesn’t quite cut it in this type of political test. Presidential leadership requires quick decisions under duress (much like a reporter’s questions) and a personality that is not “paralyzed” by excessive analysis. In presidential leadership, the paralyzed and timid need not apply.

And the American people have a way of noticing such things.

By duward

September 11, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

oh my—it will be a bleak day for the republican party (and a great one for this country) when either one of these guys running is finally elected—funny thing is, if its mccain—his behaviour as president may not resemble the “politician” mccain of the moment; but rather, that of the “maverick” his party has been so wary of. what does his potential vp matter—should mccain win, sarah palin will be as inconsequential (asthetics aside) as she was a month ago. obama as president may actually be a more conservative choice…

By Cornbread Fred

September 11, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

Thank you, lwwmm7, glad someone is listening. By bickering among ourselves (“name-calling” is #1 on the list of seven techniques published by the Institute for Propaganda Analysis) - we play right into their hands and they continue to control us. This could lead to us eventually not having a country or an American flag to salute.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

@ dim jim

U did missssspell (sic) oligarchy … and The Moron only “thinks” U missssspelt it…

That was very funny … telling folks to get out a dictionary and then witlessly misspelling the word cited!!

WOW we are indeed blessed today … two semiliterate liberal morons with the USUAL LEFTIST anal arrogance to multi-puke (snigger) their drivel!!! …. PRICELESS

Funny how dim jim REFUSES to blame the global whining eco-whacko scum for their hysterical refusal for decades to allow US oil companies to build new refineries, and drilling in ANWR etc.

AWKWARD FACT FOR THE DAY … The economy is GROWING - at 3.3% in the last quarter - but yet demoNcrat scum keep LYING about an imaginary recession!! Clearly these economic illiterates know sod all about economics.

By Dutchman

September 11, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

Eric,

Why do all the lefties try to make this whole campaign a racial issue? I can not think of one speech by McCain or Palin, that has brought that up.

I attack BHO on his policies, especially his nutty ideas on Education. They sound like it was taken from Huxley’s Brave New World. A chilling thought no doubt.

The only racial thing I can think of, off the top of my head, was something Biden said - an article from the National Review.

“Speaking to the New York Observer: Biden was equally skeptical — albeit in a slightly more backhanded way — about Mr. Obama. “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” he said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.” “

By ButtHead

September 11, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Biden is an egotistical, diarrhea mouth fool, and a great pick for Obama. Did you liberals see the 8 minute long statement that was supposed to be a question? Or how about asking a man in a wheel chair to stand up? It is funny how I never have to be told that somebody is smart, you can usually tell by the they act and speak, why does Biden have to keep reminding us the he is smart, or has a high IQ. Is he trying to convince us or himself that he is smart? RLOL

By dirty harry

September 11, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this

Is someone this cruel to animals someone a decent human being would want as their V.P. I would hope not!

Read the article..watch the video, and make up your mind!

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/analysis/450

By Road Scholar

September 11, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Speaking of the upcoming interview of Sarah Palin by Charles Gibson, does anyone know if the questions are presented to her before the interview? Do they get right of approval of the questions? Is a cone of silence involved?

Charley, the questions do not need to be “softballs”. Press her for an answer to the question asked, not the general dance around. Do not be beligerant, but stick to your guns. The American people deserve the best and the truth. They also deserve an open and accessible government regardless of who wins the election…. Let’s hope the USA wins.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

absolutely non-political

watch this English TV clip … even Simon Cowell was gobsmacked.

A sixteen year old English girl and her amazing Border Collie. Makes Lassie look like a retard!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPDu2LOBGMw&feature=related

By "Charles", The Original

September 11, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

Thank God that I actually found a minute in my schedule to talk politics with those outside of my circle.

You Georgians remember how Zigzag Zell Miller used to touch the hand of his opponents during debates in order to get their undivided attention. Allow me to take a page from his notebook and touch the hands of the audience. That’s a reference to you.

You know when Hillary Clinton lost the democratic nomination for President of the United States to Barack Obama, the democrats were finished. There isn’t a person alive that can help them win the Presidency. Even Joseph Biden realizes he may not have been the best selection. But Hillary Clinton alone at the top of the ticket would have been a formidable opponent for the republican ticket. There would have been no stopping Hillary. She would have won the Presidency hands down.

It was definitely a stroke of genius when John McCain selected Sarah Palin as his running mate. If I weren’t a third party devotee, I would vote for the republicans primarily because of Sarah Palin. She is the kind of person that Americans need to move the country beyond sophisticated lunacy. She has character, street-smarts, and the executive experience to boot. Additionally, she is not a New World Order establishment elitist. She was considered to be smart before she received her academic credentials. And that’s indeed a breath of fresh air.

If the antics of the savvy politician zigzag Zell Miller didn’t get your undivided attention, consider the blandness of a superb athlete, former heavyweight boxing champion Larry Holmes presented in quotations marks. When John McCain selected Sarah Palin to share the republican ticket, at that point, it was “goods-nights Irene” for the democrats.

By Peter

September 11, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

As long at McSame and Palin want to duck the issues and talk personalities, Obama made the right choice.

By deegee

September 11, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Today marks the first week since the coming out ceremony of the wonderkind, Palin. To date, the only unrehearsed line she has produced was the joke about the hockey mom and the pit bull. She has not expressed one extemporaneous thought during the entire week of her reign. Experienced handlers are working diligently to help her cram for her solo, national flight. The word is she a quick study, doesn’t ask questions, and is good at parroting party platitudes and one-liners. IMHO, the Republican high-fives over the Palin choice is as premature as the Mission Accomplished speech.

By ron

September 11, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

Dusty—-I believe you’re looking for,”TO DRIVE A HOUND DOG OFF A GUT WAGON”.

Anyone wondering why Mrs.Palin didn’t return the Bridge to Nowhere Money?It’s simple.Put a couple of million dollars by my mailbox tonight at midnight and come back tomorrow to see if I’ll return it.Hint—I won’t be here.

Seriously folks,government doesn’t work on the principle of returning money.Neither do corporations.Money in the budget that isn’t spent but returned is money you’ll never see again.Best to make use of it while it’s there.

Joe Bidenwill not make as godd a VP as Mrs. Palin.

I wonder if history will be made again and Obama dumps Biden for Hillary?Just A thought.

By Tommy Maddox

September 11, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

I knew that there were dumb [as opposed to ignorant] people in the world; I find it fascinating, however, that they all congregate on here to bash Jim Wooten and Republicans.

By Barbara_Open _Bush

September 11, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

IN GOOD OLD ALASKA

PALIN CHARGE WOMEN WHO REPORT BEING RAPED

CAN WE TALK?

By Jim is a caveman

September 11, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

So what you’re saying Ron is that Sarah isn’t opposed to earmarks per se, but just to ones that everyone thinks are wastes of money. But she will still take the federal money and use it in her state. How does that make her different from any other politician? How does that make her a champion of reform, a fighter of earmarks, a crusader against goverment waste?

By JLK

September 11, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this

To my fellow Americans who use this anniversary to attack the character and patriotism of their fellow Americans, F—- YOU.

How many of us wanted to look back on that time after all these years, and feel a sense of closure on the horrible things that happened, and a sense of renewed hope for the good that came after it?

And yet…. here you are perpetuating ugliness. Thanks for nothing.

Peace, out.

By Jay Black

September 11, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

Ron,

It’s unethical to take money for one purpose and use it for another purpose. We don’t need that in the VP. It’s the same as me giving you gas money, and you go buy drugs with it. Not saying that’s what you would do but it’s all unethical. Who’s to say she didn’t actually push for this project while knowingly planning to spend its money elsewhere?

By Ga Values

September 11, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Not much to write about today because I’m in the dumps. My grad school roommate was killed at the Pentagon on 9/11. His parents came from Poland & his mother could not speak English. Lyne went to Yale with a national merit scolarship & scoring double 8’s on his SAT’s. He did well in industry but bought his cloths at J.C. Pennys & had impossible table manners. I tried to train him to eat but was a failure. He would go up the corp. ladder until his scoial skills killed him but always landed on his feet with a big severence package. In his early 50’s he joined a commune in Washington & started managing 2 top secret programs for the Navy. He was a good man & I miss him.

By Bette S

September 11, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

Hillary should be very happy that she didn’t run with Obama. He was destined not to wear well with the people one his real resume came out. He has never been tested in a difficult campaign (he walked into all of his wins), he was over hyped by the press and McCains fortitude and bold selection of an accomplished woman as his VP have blown Obama out of the water.

Hillary has to be laughing.

By Bette S

September 11, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

Hillary should be very happy that she didn’t run with Obama. He was destined not to wear well with the people one his real resume came out. He has never been tested in a difficult campaign (he walked into all of his wins), he was over hyped by the press and McCains fortitude and bold selection of an accomplished woman as his VP have blown Obama out of the water.

Hillary has to be laughing.

By Bette S

September 11, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this

Hillary should be very happy that she didn’t run with Obama. He was destined not to wear well with the people one his real resume came out. He has never been tested in a difficult campaign (he walked into all of his wins), he was over hyped by the press and McCains fortitude and bold selection of an accomplished woman as his VP have blown Obama out of the water.

Hillary has to be laughing.

By bette s

September 11, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Hillary should be very happy that she didn’t run with Obama. He was destined not to wear well with the people one his real resume came out. He has never been tested in a difficult campaign (he walked into all of his wins), he was over hyped by the press and McCains fortitude and bold selection of an accomplished woman as his VP have blown Obama out of the water.

Hillary has to be laughing.

By Peter

September 11, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

JLK, you bring up a good point about closure. Finding Osama bin Laden might go a long way in that direction but the distraction in Iraq has been a huge impediment to resolution and made the tragedy a global catastrophe.

The White House agenda for the last seven years has gotten in the way. It’s time for a change.

By dirty harry

September 11, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

By Bette S

September 11, 2008 12:32 PM

BETTE, Please list some of these accomplishments that you hail…

She has been proven to be a liar, she is under investigation in Alaska, she has no discernable accomplishments that I am aware of..

FEEL FREE!

By Dutchman

September 11, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Jay Black,

You must not have taken any substantive Civics Courses in mid-school -

Once the money is budgeted, that is it Once sent to Alaska, there was no turning back.

Instead of a bridge to nowhere - the Government of Alaska put the money to good use on road and other infrastructure projects.

And - the Governor is not a supreme leader - the legislative branch of government usually decides on which projects to fund, with the Governors input.

By getalife "whiners"

September 11, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Palin is not ready to talk to the press because she is not ready to lead.

Palin is the anti Clinton.

Noonan was right about her but did not have the guts to tell the truth on air.

Like Palin, she is a political coward.

By Yahoomania

September 11, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

“Earlier this year, President Bush and the congressional leadership announced that the total number and dollar amount of earmarks must be reduced significantly. The Palin administration has responded to this message by requesting 31 earmarks, down from 54 last year. Of these, 27 involve continuing or previous appropriations and four are new. The total dollar amount of these requests has been reduced from about $550 million in the previous year to just less than $200 million. “

Isn’t it funny how Palin, who spent the money on the Nowhere Bridge instead on other real Alaskan infrastructure help, is being chastised by the socialist left who with the very same breath said it was all Bush’s fault that US infrastructure is crumbling away due to lack of spending? Will you liberal hypocrites please make up your damned minds what side of the issue of earmarks you are on? For the 2008 fiscal year alone, Obama requested 112 earmarks to Palin’s 31. I challenge any of you liberal lip hemorrhoids out there to tell her to have ZERO funding for her state.

Even the media was all over Palin and praising her leadership last year and fiscal responsibility. My how times have changed so quickly. Then there’s the slam factor by the Democrats of the general diarrhea of the mouth that they have so much:

“Chris Matthews spent the entirety of Wednesday night’s “Hardball,” debunking the idea that Barack Obama was referring to Sarah Palin, when he made his “lipstick on a pig,” remark as the MSNBC host questioned if it “insults…everyone’s intelligence?” But didn’t Matthews insult his viewers’ intelligence, on Monday, when he accused Palin and Rudy Giuliani of using coded racist language when they joked about Obama’s experience as a “community organizer?” - That would be a big fat lipstick pig YES.

“South Carolina Democratic chairwoman Carol Fowler sharply attacked Sarah Palin yesterday, saying John McCain had chosen a running mate “whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn’t had an abortion.”

Absolutely disgusting. As another blogger pointed out here, let us hope that the rancid liberal left keeps the hate and attacks up on Palin. Let them deal with at least another four years of Republicans in the White House and go pound sand.

By deegee

September 11, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

bette s, you got me laughing with that Limbaugh/Hannity/O’Reilly stew you cooked up. His “real resume”? Like there’s one we don’t know about yet???? Never been tested in a difficult election? What about the one he lost??? You’re a riot!

By Concern for America

September 11, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

Picking Biden as the Democratic VP nominee was a well thought out, thoroughly vetted decision and I believe a great addition to the ticket. Sarah Palin on the other hand was barely vetted and still nearly two weeks later the public knows pitifully little about her. It appears that Sarah Palin’s only appeal to the McCain camp is that she talks the talk of the Far Right Wing of the Republican Party AKA the Christian Extremist of the Republican Party. Ms.Palin will definitely rally the vote of the least tolerant segment of American society and may in fact help get McCain elected in November. The message that McCain is sending to the nation is that he’ll use any means at his disposal to win the White House. Ms. Palin wasn’t chosen with any thought whatsoever as to the type of successor she might be should God forbid… (McCain would be our oldest president so it’s a valid concern)…no Ms. Palin is being used to bring certain votes to the table and that says very little about John McCain’s real concern for America.

By Thought for Today

September 11, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

What do Obama and Osama have in common - both have friends that bombed the Pentagon.

By Shawny

September 11, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Governors do not obtain local ‘pork’ through back door deals hidden within legislation. Senators do. They trade $$$ favors for votes. It is sickening, actually, and it understood as the status quo. ‘I’ll vote for your bill if you let me put in this earmark for my state’ kind of crap.

Sarah Palin did not vote or obtain the bridge to nowhere. Stevens did. She may have been in favor it before she was against it, but if that is all the dirt you can get on her, you are a sad bunch of liberal hacks. Why don’t you go after the senators that bring the pork.

And don’t look at Alaska pork in terms of $$$ per citizen. You know they have a very sparse population and the highway system has to be vast to cover the state, meaning that they don’t have the economies of scale like a NY would.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 11, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

DUTCHMAN

I can understand your concern about Kos…it is progressive and is proud.

AND while you make fun of the sight you seem unable to counter it in any way.

IT MUST BE TRUE THEN….DUTCHMAN CAN’T REFUTE IT SO INSTEAD HE STARTS NAME CALLING!

How wonderfully ineffective!

However, while questioning my source is it required to call me names?

Is that page 1 of the GOP playbook?

Should I respond and call you a war wh0re? Maybe I could say you appear to be a product of two low info voters mating? How about calling you a neanderthal? or perhaps an obviously ignorant redneck? goober? cracker? butt head? ignor-anus? Maybe you are “Mooselim” or “Mooselini”. That would make me no better than you.

I may disagree with you on everything.

I was raised to be a decent human being and I won’t call you names.

By Shawny

September 11, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

To Wooten’s original point, yes, Obama did make a mistake picking Biden. He is a blowhard and the exact opposite of Obama’s change rhetoric. Biden is the status quo. Biden is earmarks, procedures, filibusters (when the GOP had the majority), voting along party lines, etc. He is the opposite of what is required for change. The one and only reasoning for adding Biden to the ticket was to ‘balance’ the FACT that Obama has so very little experience, that he felt he had to put in another senator that has been in Washington longer than McCain has.

He has to be thinking every time he looks at post-Palin polling data that he goofed.

By Dutchman

September 11, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this

The limp wristed liberals, or lefties as I call them - seem to be of the opinion that Sarah Palin is running against Obama.

Their ignorance is amazing.

John McCain had no earmarks for Arizona and did not vote for any.

BHO and Biden are among the champs of earmarks.

Another example of liberal spin. Do not attack the Candidate, attack his running mate in the number 2 slot.

I always can tell when the lefties arguments are weak - the arguments get ridiculous, childish and sound like Democrats.

By Joe

September 11, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

I don’t believe anything I see on MSNBC. Seems NBC doesn’t believe them either.

By ObamaTheSaferChoice

September 11, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

Why are posts concerning Palin’s ties to the Christian theocracy movement being blocked? If “security” is the issue, there is a much greater threat from the Christian theocracy movement (they already have a major toehold in American politics with the likes of Sarah Palin) than there ever will be of a Muslim takeover of this country.

We simply can’t afford the security risk that is a Palin/McCain ticket. Trust the United States military to prevent a Muslim theocratic takeover; don’t hand the reigns of power over to Palin in order to create a Christian theocratic takeover.

If “security” is the question, then Obama is the clear answer. Palin is a clear and present danger to our freedom.

By Shawny

September 11, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

And here is a final point of how Obama blew it with Biden…

Voters give consideration the VP candidate when they vote because the VP typically is the front runner candidate for the party in 8 years. Examples fill a long list. Voters like Palin and are favorable that after 8 years in the WH, she would be ready for president. They look at Biden and the same folks that like Obama for his change rhetoric can’t possibly think Biden for change, so there is a little hesitance with him, vs what could have been with Obama and Hillary for 16 years.

Those that drink the ‘Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency’ coolaid are paranoid that McCain would keel over. Please…that man will be around for a while. That is a stupid reason not to vote for McCain. Besides, she would do fine if she had to. The president surrounds him/herself with good people.

By Maniac is accurate

September 11, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

Guess you were raised to be humble, too, huh Japanese movie monster spouse?

By Shawny

September 11, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

I find “If “security” is the question, then Obama is the clear answer ” interesting.

How so? Does Obama support listening in to suspected incoming foreign phone calls?

Does Obama support a solid (non porous) US/Mexican border?

Does Obama support denying US based habeaus corpus rights on non-US enemy combatants?

By Bud Wiser

September 11, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Obama/Hillary would have won the election, hands down. There is no one in the Republican party or elsewhere McCain could have picked to offset the Hill, because of her rampant, though misguided, following of women. Many of them like the Palin choice for John McCain, and will vote for them/her.

Now, it’s all coming together for McCain. Obama’s Freudian slip on the “lipstick on a pig” comment, right or wrong, intended or not, has done things that McCain could never have mustered on his own. If a PR guy wrote that for Obama, he’s looking for new work now. If Barry free-lanced it, then he’s not worthy of the job ahead anyway,because you just can’t touch that saying with a ten meter cattle prod and not have it taken the wrong way. That issue is pretty much moot now till the VP debate, which I predict will have even higher ratings than any of the Presidential debates.

The biggest loser??? Hillary Clinton. McCain/Palin will win, and in 4 years if he doesn’t run, she will. Hillary loses again. Eight years after that, she’ll be older than McCain is now, and probably senile. One thing for sure, she won’t have any teeth because she’s already grinding them down below the gum line watching current events unfold.

The very fabric of the Democrat party is being shredded by Palin being on the Republican ticket, as opposed to Hillary or any other woman for that matter on the Dems. A vital core constituency has been co opted by John McCain, and the libs are furious.

Gee, isn’t that a shame? I guess choosing Biden as a running mate is more like trying to put lipstick on the pig than whatever the hell point Obama was trying to make in the first place.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Obama/Biden ‘08 - making it easy to be stupid…. and sexist

By Chuck

September 11, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

Earmarks designate a certain amount of the money already allocated to the states for a specific purpose, no matter how wasteful or unnecessary. If you gave me $50 and told me to buy lunch with it, then I went to McDs, and spent the rest on things I really needed, which one of us is the smart one?

The Bridge To Nowhere argument isn’t working, especially when Obama voted for it… twice. I’m sure he traded that earmark for one of his many earmarks. (See he did do something in the Senate!)

By Yahoomania

September 11, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

Shawny @ 12:57, that is a good point. Perhaps you can also help the stupidity of liberals on this blog and elsewhere point out that the President does not vote “in step” with congress. Only a stupid left wing bed wetting liberal would believe that McCain has voted with Bush 95% of the time. That is a Constitutional impossibility as the President doesn’t draw up nor vote on congressional bills that make it to his desk - he either approves them or vetoes them. But, considering about 70% of the stupid liberals in this nation who are supporting Oblahma say that the Supreme Court should make decisions NOT on what the Constitution says, but on fairness instead, it shouldn’t be too surprising which group of people are the TRUE danger to this Constitutional Republic.

By catlady

September 11, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

The GOP posts are so long because they like to cut and paste so much.

The Dem posts are so long because there is a long list of reasons why Palin is not a good candidate.

Re: being a good speaker: even with the teleprompter, GWB has given us the most malapropisms ever.

By bush go away

September 11, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Shawny,

The reality is Islamic theocrats, despite the scare tactics of the neocons, have a less than zero chance of overthrowing the United States goverment.

Christian theocrats, on the other hand, while not having a great chance, do have a major toehold in this country, and thus we can’t take a chance on supporting sympathizers to their cause, such as Sarah Palin. Simply too risky.

The William Ayers of the world, while despicable, have had their day. The Christian theocrats, finding a champion to their cause like Sarah Palin, are actively building toward theirs. Again, Palin sympathies to them make her a clear and present danger to our freedom.

By ron

September 11, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Jay Black,you haven’t been around budgets long.A more apt comparison would be:You give me gas money,not knowing I didn’t have a car,and I use the money to pay bus fare and buy a few groceries.It’s only unethical if I use it to buy booze or drugs.Or in Mrs.Palin’s case,it would only be unethical if she pocketed the money.

By raw democrat

September 11, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

For the VP candidate to say he is then he is!! Obams should have picked Hillary! We wouldnt have an election. He would skip right into the white house, but its too late now, the only thing we can do is support Obama!! Go Obama

Obama/Biden 08

By KM

September 11, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

It’s funny how people can say now that Hillary should have been picked and she would have united the party. If I am not mistaken, all the experts also said that picking her would backfire because everyone would assume that he picked her just to win the election. I wish my job was to just give opinions on certain topics and get paid at the same time.

To me, Obama knew what he was lacking and that was foreign experience so he went out and got someone whom he could call on for advice, Joe Biden. His team is now comprised of someone with good vision for the country, good judgement & leadership and good foreign affairs experience.

McCain picked Palin for, let’s see, it’ll come to me in a minute……………….. Okay I think I have it now, let’s see ……………………………….. Okay, she’s a woman so she could be the first female VP and she is young. Did I leave anything out?

By bush go away

September 11, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Shawny,

The reality is Islamic theocrats, despite the scare tactics of the neocons, have a less than zero chance of overthrowing the United States goverment.

Christian theocrats, on the other hand, while not having a great chance, do have a major toehold in this country, and thus we can’t take a chance on supporting sympathizers to their cause, such as Sarah Palin. Simply too risky.

The William Ayers of the world, while despicable, have had their day. The Christian theocrats, finding a champion to their cause like Sarah Palin, are actively building toward theirs. Again, Palin sympathies to them make her a clear and present danger to our freedom.

By bush go away

September 11, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Shawny,

The reality is Islamic theocrats, despite the scare tactics of the neocons, have a less than zero chance of overthrowing the United States goverment.

Christian theocrats, on the other hand, while not having a great chance, do have a major toehold in this country, and thus we can’t take a chance on supporting sympathizers to their cause, such as Sarah Palin. Simply too risky.

The William Ayers of the world, while despicable, have had their day. The Christian theocrats, finding a champion to their cause like Sarah Palin, are actively building toward theirs. Again, Palin sympathies to them make her a clear and present danger to our freedom.

By Churchill

September 11, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

It’s true. People can not handle the truth. Even the journalist so I say what they are afraid to say. RICK DAVIS, McCain’s man is controlling the press. He told you the campaign wasn’t going to be about issues. What has it been about Oprah and lip stick. And the press just plays along with their behinds up in the air. Can you believe with all the problems in this country that they spent a whole day and a half on lipstick. Rick controls everything about Palin including who she talks too. ABC network went to bed with him for ratings. What good is a bunch of cut up edited tapes spread out over who knows how long. Charlie Gibson already lost his creditability with the Obama interview, but now he has sold his soul to the devil. He’s worst than fox news. Its all about control for Rick Davis the real press will never get a chance to interview Palin. Her first real press conference will not take place for months, win or lose because she’s not ready for PRIMETIME. She is the biggest sham the republican party has going but more importantly, she’s dangerous for the country.

By jeffjohn

September 11, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

ALL HAIL OBAMA,,, THE RACIST BIGOT SEXIST PIG,,, From Dreams of My Father: ”I ceased to advertise my mother”s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites .” ‘I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother”s race.” ”There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.” ”It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.” ”I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn”t speak to my own. It was into my father”s image, the black man, son of Africa , that I”d packed all the attributes I sought in myself , the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela.” From Audacity of Hope: ”I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

By Dutchman

September 11, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

bush go away,

While I do have misgivings and a little fear of Muslim theocrats getting power in this country, Christian theocrats would not pose live or death situation.

Christian have a live and let live view on life, while the Muslims view it a little different.

By Russ

September 11, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Of course Biden was a lousy choice. It proves to me a couple things about Obama:

The election was his to lose, and I think he lost it.

By Willa

September 11, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

It won’t be long before moderates have buyer’s remorse over Palin. She still has to answer questions about her radical views. By November Palin will be a liability to McCain.

By Willa

September 11, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

It won’t be long before moderates have buyer’s remorse over Palin. She still has to answer questions about her radical views. By November Palin will be a liability to McCain.

By catlady

September 11, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

The GOP posts are so long because they like to cut and paste so much.

The Dem posts are so long because there is a long list of reasons why Palin is not a good candidate.

Re: being a good speaker: even with the teleprompter, GWB has given us the most malapropisms ever.

By Do the Math

September 11, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

That is obvious to even this Democrat. McCain picked last and countered Obama’s pick quite well. In hindsight Richardson would have been an brilliant choice. There is a reason why Hilary did not win and it remains true if she was on the ticket as VP.

Why do people keep talking about Dream Teams, it didn’t work in the Olympics and it won’t work in the White House. It is what you do in the White House that counts not just about getting in there.

I think this country is divided between fans of the Republican Party and fans of the Democratic Party but most are clueless about government.

By voter

September 11, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

No! Obama’s choosing Biden wasn’t a bad VP pick. Even if Obama had chosen Hillary, critics will still find obnoxious and dissenting reasons to undercut Obama’s VP pick.

Obama and Biden staying focus to present resolutions on the real issues are going to propel him into presidency.

Hopefully Biden don’t throw away the ticket viability by making strange remarks.

By Devastator

September 11, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

Russ,

3.That’s what wives do isn’t it?

By hillbilly ragger

September 11, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

Speaking of VP choices, anyone care to comment on this confirmation that Mayor Sarah Palin actually charged rape victims to pay for their own rape kits when reporting the crime to police?

Keep in mind, Palin also would force her own daughter to carry a pregnancy to term if she were raped.

Have fun defending this, McCainiacs.

By Mrs. Godzilla

September 11, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

maniac is accurate

False humility is a sin dude.

By Just saying

September 11, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Christian have a live and let live view on life

Perhaps, but Christian THEOCRATS do not. They want to legislate and mandate their own personal life choices onto your body, family, and life, taking away your right to make personal life choices — all in the name of freedom of course.

By hillbilly ragger

September 11, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

voter @ 1.42 there wasn’t anything especially strange about Biden’s remark—he was defending Hillary after someone shouted to him at a rally that she would’ve made a lousy VP.

If he’s guilty of anything, it’s a touch of modesty. The only thing “strange” is that it plays against the conservos’ caricature of Biden being some kind of egomaniac.

This, like all the other poop the McCain monkeys have been flinging in past weeks, is just another distraction. They can’t win on tax policy, nor on foreign policy, nor on any issue that resonates with Americans, but by golly, they do fling poop expertly, don’t they?

By Shawny

September 11, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

“The reality is Islamic theocrats, despite the scare tactics of the neocons, have a less than zero chance of overthrowing the United States goverment. “

True.

But that is not their goal, now is it?

By Fair Dinkem

September 11, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

The “Oil people” were appointed by President Clinton as they were done 10 years ago.
Too poor to pay attention, or missed the 2nd fact in the entire article.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this

THIS IS BLOODY BRILLIANT FUN!!!

Just download it for free and enjoy wasting loads of towel head terrorists types on the screen. Got it stored on my Vista 64bit desktop now.

I got over 180 little towel head terrorists on my second game. Its a very easy, gentle learning curve. Just a more realistic “space invaders game really”.

On 9/11 its a great way to have some INNOCENT fun. Don’t let politically correct scum spoil yer fun!!!

The lefties are all preDICKtably screeching about this, which makes it even better fun!!

I discovered this little gem in an article in today’s Dail Mail.

There’s an amusing preamble, supposedly by Bush before the game starts - so switch the speakers on - but U can skip that when U learn how.

PURE MAGIC THIS!!!

http://www.muslimmassacre.com/

By jeffjohn

September 11, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

we could discuss Obama’s policies, if he could stick to one long enough so we know where he stands.

By jeffjohn

September 11, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

We already discussed Obama’s stand, …When Jimmy Carter ran.

By jeffjohn

September 11, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

We already discussed Obama’s stand, …When Jimmy Carter ran.

By Devastator

September 11, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

jeffjohn,

It’s also kind of hard to know what they are if you don’t pay attention or to them or are too preoccupied with hating him.

You are more than welcome to discuss any of his policies with me.

By Dutchman

September 11, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

Just saying,

Evidently, your religion has a different view on life.

If the anti-abortion stance is what is crawling up your but, that is minor. Rolling back Roe V. Wade would put it back to the states to regulate.

Other than that, there is nothing in mainstream Christian or Judaism religious tenets that would cause anyone in harm.

Islam has a nasty little habit of condeming to death folks that want to choose a different faith to follow. Conversions from Islam are life threatening.

For the lefties, if you speak ill of any major faith, except Islam, you will not suffer any harm. Ask Salman Rushie about that.

I can only assume that you are a secularist and therefore you are your own god. Must be nice . The rest of us still cling to our religion and guns. Something in the Constitution about that.

By Ray

September 11, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

America is not ready for a black president. We have a racial divide in this country as big as the Grand Canyon and the hate, prejudice, anger and resentment that is on both sides will not allow us to experiment with the future of our country. Racist comments from a devout Conservative?…… Not on your life. Just plain and simple pragmatic opinion that is obvious to anyone who takes a close look at societal problems in America.
Exit polls from Democratic voters in primaries found that 10-12% of voters would not vote for a black candidate, and that was from Democrats, not “racist” Conservatives. When you add the Hillaryites, the women who want a female in national leadership, an invigorated GOP, the entire NRA membership…… the fat lady is tuning up.

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

September 11, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Down below the gnat line is where you belong Jim. I’m sure Obama would appreciate your critique of his choice for the humor he would find in it. The ‘lipsticked pig’ is a terrible choice and the error McStupid made will become more apparent to all over the next few weeks. Palin wasn’t qualified to be mayor of Wasilla and she damn sure isn’t qualified to be Vice-President of the United States! She’s and unscrupulous, Republinazi hag who was picked by McDunce because of her perky teats.

By AnonyMoose

September 11, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

As Republicans well know (think back to 2000) it is all about the Electoral College. The outcome of the election is far from clear, but given the way the Electoral College map is shaping up, one has to say it is favoring Obama. The national polls are meaningless (remember how Gore got half a million more votes but lost?). Anyone who denies that the maps favor Obama isn’t dealing with reality.

By hillbilly ragger

September 11, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

“Exit polls from Democratic voters in primaries found that 10-12% of voters would not vote for a black candidate”

Cite, please. And if these are from states with OPEN primaries, particularly those held after McCain had sewn up the nomination and GOP voters were free to make trouble under the Big Fat Idiot’s orders, you lose.

By jeffjohn

September 11, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

Devastator : Protectionism….Carter Raise taxes on the wealthy aka ,employers…Carter double digit inflation….Carter Depression….Carter

By Devastator

September 11, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

jeffjohn,

Are you mentally challenged or just a dumba$$? We’re talking about Obama.

If you’re to screwed up in the past, the late 70s to be exact, to the point where you can’t sit still from having a diabetic stroke long enough to learn something new about Obama, then we don’t have anything to discuss.

By anonymous

September 11, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

People like Ray like to excuse their own racism by framing it as a big issue affecting the nation. Umm, didn’t lily white Iowa choose Obama in their Democratic caucus? What will Ray say to that? That only Democrats will vote for a black man but that Republicans won’t? of course that would be a silly thing to say. I believe it is called projecting. Accusing others of holding the negative traits you know you should not have yourself.

By jeffjohn

September 11, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

hillbilly ragger,

Ever hear of the Bradley Effect?

That is why so many dems are scared.

Game over!!!!!!

By anonymous

September 11, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

bette s- Do you not consider election to the state Senate to be an accomplishment? Do you not consider election to the US Senate to be an accomplishment? Do you not consider graduation from Harvard Law to be an accomplishment? Do you not consider winning the presidential nomination of a major political party to be an accomplishment? You obviously set the bar very high. I assume you’re one of those people who never thinks anyone is good enough for you. Must get lonely up there at the top.

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

September 11, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Dutchman, nobody gives a damn about your hypocritical, pious, b****** religion. As for guns, we’ve got them too and lots of them. so, what’s your pitiably put forth point? Republinazis talk about the Constitution in somber, respectful tones and then do everything they can to circumvent, twist and destroy it. So, what is your point dumbass?

By DeanMorgan

September 11, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

If you think this election is far from over, you are drinking to much of the Obama/liberal media koolaid. Obama doesn’t have a chance at winning. Most Americans don’t want a socialist society. He is paying for votes with his socialist agenda. Hillary and her backers were right…there is no way Obama could win a general election. All you Obamites please recite in unison “President John McCain and Vice President Sarah Palin.”

By jeffjohn

September 11, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

Devastator Different name, Same policies. But you are correct that we don’t need to discuss them since obama is going to lose. But on a bright note for you, V.P. Palin said she will be an advocate for people like you. DISABLED.errr. Mentally Challenged.

By Devastator

September 11, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

DeanMorgan,

Hillary has the same platform and policies as Obama you idiot.

Palin won’t have any power in the white house because everybody knows that she’s just there for votes.

By jeffjohn

September 11, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Devastator Different name, Same policies. But you are correct that we don’t need to discuss them since obama is going to lose. But on a bright note for you, V.P. Palin said she will be an advocate for people like you. DISABLED.errr. Mentally Challenged.

By AnonyMoose

September 11, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

DeanMorgan, I would invite you to take a look at the Electoral College maps on the Real Clear Politics site. It would appear that you are wrong about what Americans want and don’t want. Perhaps you are the one who is out of touch with America?

By Ray

September 11, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Ragger,

Keep talking. The voting booth is a very private place. All of this political correctness nonsense will be left on the other side of the curtain at voting time. Mr. Wonderful will have to have a good 10% bump to give him an even chance and you know it. It’s the elephant in the living room and everyone ignores it to their peril. Racist? I don’t think so. Common sense and objective? Yeah, probably. Do I like it that way…. No, I don’t. I wish we could have come away better in our relationships with all of our ethnic groups, but I don’t think we are there yet. Time will tell.

By Chris Salzmann

September 11, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

I found this great site which helps one play around with electoral votes between the states.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008/pick-your-president/

For those of you who think McCain is in an envious position, take a good look. Its pretty clear why the McCain campaign is resorting to Karl Rowe tactics. This map doesn’t look very promising for McCain even AFTER taking into account recent state polls. Last I heard, the McCain campaign is Push Polling in Ohio, similar to the one the Bush Campaign did against McCain pushing the notion that he fathered a “Black” child out of wedlock during the Republican Primary in 2000.

Play around with the numbers and you will see why OH, PA and to some extent, CO are so important to the McCain campaign.

Lastly, lets remember that pollsters ONLY call land lines to take polls (they aren’t allowed to call cells). Most of the newly registered voters in all these battle ground states including VA are Democrats, many in the 18-35 age range. They usually don’t have land line phones and rely exclusively on cell phones. Therefore, this is an entire segment of the population that are never even called. My wild guess is that most of these polls discount Obama’s numbers by at least 3%-5% percent for this very reason.

Which is why, in-spite of all the spin that is being spun out there, Obama’s in very good shape. Almost every political analyst (not Hannity, Obermann, Mathews, etc) state that the electoral map still favors Obama. This negative campaigning by the McCain campaign is really a sign of desperation on their part because they know this too.

Do the numbers, and figure it out yourselves.

By Chris Salzmann

September 11, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

I found this great site which helps one play around with electoral votes between the states.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008/pick-your-president/

For those of you who think McCain is in an envious position, take a good look. Its pretty clear why the McCain campaign is resorting to Karl Rowe tactics. This map doesn’t look very promising for McCain even AFTER taking into account recent state polls. Last I heard, the McCain campaign is Push Polling in Ohio, similar to the one the Bush Campaign did against McCain pushing the notion that he fathered a “Black” child out of wedlock during the Republican Primary in 2000.

Play around with the numbers and you will see why OH, PA, VA and to some extent, CO are so important to the McCain campaign.

Lastly, lets remember that pollsters ONLY call land lines to take polls (they aren’t allowed to call cells). Most of the newly registered voters in all these battle ground states including VA are Democrats, many in the 18-35 age range. They usually don’t have land line phones and rely exclusively on cell phones. Therefore, this is an entire segment of the population that are never even called. My wild guess is that most of these polls discount Obama’s numbers by at least 3%-5% percent for this very reason.

Which is why, in-spite of all the spin that is being spun out there, Obama’s in very good shape. Almost every political analyst (not Hannity, Obermann, Mathews, etc) state that the electoral map still favors Obama. This negative campaigning by the McCain campaign is really a sign of desperation on their part because they know this too.

Do the numbers, and figure it out yourselves.

By Dutchman

September 11, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

anonymous,

Can you tell me how a junior state senator could run and win a seat in the US Senate? Or how a first term US Senator can run for the Presidency? Must be nice not to pay any dues in life.

I just want to know who is backing BHO money wise and what he has on the rest of the Democratic party.

Some one has to be funding BHO. His privileged life and meteoric rise is out side the norm.

By Maezeppa

September 11, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

Obama ended the Palin news cycle with the momentum-stopping ‘lipstick’ comment. In due time Palin may come to be seen as fatally flawed and gimmicky.

By Devastator

September 11, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

jeffjohn,

At least I know what century I’m in.

Nice attempt at skipping over critizicing Clinton. Last I checked his policies where just like her’s. You also forgot to mention Bill Clinton, but oh that’s right, his presidency was a success wasn’t it.

By LEICESTER CITY SUCKS

September 11, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

VOTE NO,

Needn’t worry. I doubt any of us on here are going to screech or cry political correctness on here. No, instead we’re glad that you shared your joy of that sordid kiddie video game you posted because it saves us the effort of pointing out just how much of a sick f uck you really are. LOL!

By Hasell Brown

September 11, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

The question that NO one has asked is: Which candidate has a VISION that the American people can rally behind? John McCain does not present the logic to convince me that this is the case. Let’s look at some things:

a) He states that HE is the change agent; he has supported Bush 90% of the time….and the Bush policies have gotten this nation in a mess that it will take a visionary to extricate us from.

b) McCain is steeped in 20th Century logic….and we need someone who can think in 21ST Century ideology and technology. If McCain can’t send e-mail, how can he analyze 21st Century situations.

c) McCain states he is removed from the Bush ideology; McCain assisted in extricating Neil Bush from a prison term, since Neil was an UNINDITED CO-CONSPIRATOR in the Lincoln Savings scandal in Arizona.

d) McCain states he’s a reformer; he did reform the banking system….by having the American taxpayer bailout his friend Charles Keating to the tune of 3.5 BILLION…and save his wife’s investments that she shared with Keating. That was the beginning of what the nation’s financials are undergoing as we speak.

e) McCain says “He works for US!”; he has persistently voted against minority constituents: a) voted against Affirmative Action; b) voted against extension of the Voting Rights Act; c) voted FOR a Supreme Court justice that wants to subjugate the programs that he used for advancement (Clarence THomas); d) voted against the MLK National Holiday…and remember that it was not observed in Arizona until the NFL threatened to move the Super Bowl!!

We need someone with a new vision of the nation….and the world…and in McCain, I don’t see it!!

By McCain & Palin

September 11, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Typical venom spewing from the vile Dem base. You can’t say anything nice, so you spin and say whatever you can to be as condescending and nasty as possible. Forget about being accurate or honest.

Do you wonder why you’ve lost the last two elections and will most likely lose this one as well. It is because most American people don’t like the elitist, liberal nastiness and don’t care for socialist programs and bigger government!

Palin might not have a lot of executive experience, but she’s got a hell of a lot more than Obama, Biden and McCain put together!!

By Devastator

September 11, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Chris Salzmann,

You are a genious among idiots.

My prediction is that this election is going to be won by the youth vote.

Obama will barely get by with the popular vote, but he will devastate McCain with the electoral college.

By Maniac is accurate

September 11, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Genuine humility is a virtue, Japanese monster movie spouse.

By Churchill

September 11, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Unfortunately, Obama is going to have to come down off his high horse of principle—do I hear echoes of another professor turned politician, Woodrow Wilson, about being “too proud to fight?”—and fight fire with fire. Obama has to do thia because the politics of smear and fear and hate and lie are threatening to overwhelm our democracy.

It is obvious that McCain’s sense of “honor” and “decency” are hollow shams—window-dressing to cover his naked lust for power. Kinsley is absolutely right here, and the press really is at fault for failing to lambast McCain, Palin, and the whole GOP hate machine for their collective descent into the political tactics of Joseph Goebbels and Adolf Hitler.

McCain’s opponents have to unleash the heavy artillery. Have the guts to call him a serial liar, and destroy the myth of his honorable character. Remind everyone of the man’s disgustingly immorality toward his first wife, and how he ditched her to marry Miss Moneybags from a family in hock to the Mafia. Call him as an incompetent flier in the Navy who crashed five jets because he never bothered to learn the manuals, took crazy risks, and got away with everything because of his family connections. (That included being allowed to stay at Academy despite lousy grades and a horrible conduct record that would have got anyone else expelled.) Yes, say how he cracked at the Hanoi Hilton—which proves, of course, that torture can break anyone, and which also shows what a damned hypocrite he is now to excuse Bush’s torture. Bring back the Keating Five, and couple that with the man’s long and shameful history of allying himself with the rotten lobbyists—including those who still run his campaign. Hit him for having hired, in 2008, the very same slimeballs who in 2000 slimed him in order to put his new-found friend, Bush, into the White House—what man of honor would do such a thing? How can we trust this country to a man of such slippery conscience?

McCain and his minions and his enablers—including that two-bit hussy of a running mate—are damned liars and have to be exposed. Obama, just tell the truth about these frauds, and pour it on. The truth will set us free.

God help the United States if this kind of Hitler-Goebbels Big Lie politics succeeds once again. ENOUGH!

By jeffjohn

September 11, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

hillbilly ragger, anyone care to comment on this confirmation that Mayor Sarah Palin actually charged rape victims to pay for their own rape kits when reporting the crime to police? Are you Brain Dead or what? Fannon went on to say that he believed the criminal should be held responsible for the costs, which run from $5,000-$14,000 per year for all assault cases. USA Today did not reprint those quotes from the interview, though. “The forensic exam is just one part of the equation,” Fannon said at the time “I’d like to see the courts make these people pay restitution for these things.” I couldn’t agree more.!!!!

By Peter

September 11, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

Barack/Hillary wasn’t the question; but since it’s been brought up … Hillary would have brought all the conservative whack-jobs out from under their rocks (to cast stones). She would have generated such long lines at the polls that the affluent communities (and even the impoverished rural trailer dwellers) would experience late night voting (regularly seen in inner cities as a way to reduce Democrat turnout).

We are all better off not having to witness that scenario (unless you want McSame to win).

By BS Aplenty

September 11, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

Why Obama is a Racist

Barrack Obama attended the Trinity United Church of Christ, Chicago, Illinois, for almost twenty years. Attended, learned, worshipped, prayed and sang along with his wife and children until his abrupt resignation in May 2008 due to heightened media awareness of the “nature” of his congregation. That nature being brought into sharp focus by sermon tapes of former TUCC minister, Jeremiah Wright.

Needless to say for Obama and his presidential campaign the ‘cat was out of the bag’. After twenty years of attendance at this church, Barrack Obama finally made a decision to leave. A decision his avid campaign supporter, Oprah Winfrey, made several years earlier as she contemplated a business agenda of her own. For all his bluster and ignorance, though, Wright’s rantings from the pulpit hinted at a deeper, more troubling truth about TUCC and Obama.

What is it that made TUCC such a political liability to the first African-American nominated by a major political party? The answer to that question lies in the doctrine and teachings of TUCC. In short, this congregation, unlike most other United Church of Christ churches, adopted, endorsed and actively promotes the doctrine and teachings of James H. Cone. Cone systematized what has been called black liberation theology as outlined in his two books, the first entitled, Black Theology and Black Power and a follow-on, A Black Theology of Liberation. These are the only two books sold by the Trinity United Church of Christ on its website. TUCC doesn’t sell or give away the BIBLE on the site which I find very telling.

The two books mentioned are, to say the least, “interesting” reads. Black Theology and Black Power is the seminal work on black liberation theology and A Black Theology of Liberation is a follow-up. Cone viewed his theology as, “…complete emancipation of black people from white oppression by whatever means black people deem necessary. So-called (white) Christianity, as commonly practiced in the United States, is actually the racist Antichrist.” “Theologically,” Cone affirms, “Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man ‘the devil’.” The preaching and “ignorance”, as some say, of Wright is only symptomatic of this problem and neglects to see that the entire TUCC congregation has endorsed the doctrine of Cone under the guise of a Christian church. Wright was just a mouthpiece, it’s the congregation, including Obama, that endorsed and promotes this racist doctrine.

ANY person or group that attempts to systematically demonize another group because of race is, by definition, RACIST.

Again, what I find telling about this disguised use of a Christian church is that I must now calculate that Obama uses a similar strategy to sell his other ideas, like “change.” Change, in Obama’s world, is whatever your “mark” thinks it is until the huckster has your money – or vote. At which point, change is whatever the candidate wants it to be.

It’s a classic “bait and switch” technique utilized by unscrupulous used car salesmen,…and some politicians.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

Needn’t worry. I doubt any of us on here are going to screech or cry political correctness on here. No, instead we’re glad that you shared your joy of that sordid kiddie video game you posted because it saves us the effort of pointing out just how much of a sick f uck you really are. LOL!

pathetic retarded colonial peasants like U just don’t do irony - do ya bubbaturd??!!!

It was precisely to elicit such socially inadequate hissy fits that I generously provided the download for such fabulous entertainment!!

I see yer back to the anal anally funny stalker mode again. Such lobotomised liberal munificence never stops giving!!!

Funny ain’t it … the liberal pukes endlessly screech @ McLiar’s 90% GOP voting record yet NEVER say a damn thing about the mulatto Hussein Obama’s 97% liberal/demoNcrat voting record!!

SUCH DEPRAVED LIBERAL intellectual - as if??? DISHONESTY IS WOT WE PATRIOTIC CONSERVATIVES EXPECT … so cheers for NOT disappointing!!!

By anonymous

September 11, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

dutchman@2:48: In response to your questions about how Obama has risen, can’t I also ask how a small town mayor rose to become Governor? Or how a Governor who has served less than two years of her term has risen to be a VP candidate? You are not using logic. Let’s just agree that both Obama and Palin do not have the longevity of experience as McCain and Biden. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander right?

By Copyleft

September 11, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

McCain had an easier job with his pick. There’s no way Obama could’ve found a VP excellent enough to outshine him.

Meanwhile, a candle could outshine Johnny McWhatsisname.

By the way, it’s 9/11. Where’s Osama?

By anonymous

September 11, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

Are the words “venom”, “vile”, and “spew” standard in the conservative vocabulary, or is one vocabulary challenged person posting here under mulitiple names and using those words over and over?

By Chris Salzmann

September 11, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

I found this great site which helps one play around with electoral votes between the states.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2008/pick-your-president/

For those of you who think McCain is in an envious position, take a good look. Its pretty clear why the McCain campaign is resorting to Karl Rowe tactics. This map doesn’t look very promising for McCain even AFTER taking into account recent state polls. Last I heard, the McCain campaign is Push Polling in Ohio, similar to the one the Bush Campaign did against McCain pushing the notion that he fathered a “Black” child out of wedlock during the Republican Primary in 2000.

Play around with the numbers and you will see why OH, PA, VA and to some extent, CO are so important to the McCain campaign.

Lastly, lets remember that pollsters ONLY call land lines to take polls (they aren’t allowed to call cells). Most of the newly registered voters in all these battle ground states including VA are Democrats, many in the 18-35 age range. They usually don’t have land line phones and rely exclusively on cell phones. Therefore, this is an entire segment of the population that are never even called. My wild guess is that most of these polls discount Obama’s numbers by at least 3%-5% percent for this very reason.

Which is why, in-spite of all the spin that is being spun out there, Obama’s in very good shape. Almost every political analyst (not the spin meisters Hannity, Olbermann, Mathews, etc) state that the electoral map still favors Obama. This negative campaigning by the McCain campaign is really a sign of desperation on their part because they know this too.

Do the numbers, and figure it out yourselves.

By jeffjohn

September 11, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this

By Chris Salzmann

You are living in the past. Check out the poll sites and you will see they DO call cell phone users. So your theory fails. Wishful thinking on your part.

Interviews are conducted with respondents on land-line telephones (for respondents with a land-line telephone) and cellular phones (for respondents who are cell-phone only).

By BS Aplenty

September 11, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

CATCHING O’SAMBO BIN LADEN

The U.S. also had a difficult time trying to catch Pancho Villa in the early 1900’s.

Villa was, among many things, the caudillo who ran the Mexican state of Chihuahua, near the U.S. border. His rise in the Mexican military and later in politics are well chronicled. Unfortunately, in 1916 his bravado led to an ill-advised cross-border raid into the town of Columbus, New Mexico.

U.S. General John “Black Jack” Pershing was dispatched and attempted for over a year to find Villa but was ultimately unsuccessful. Villa later resurfaced in Mexico and continued in public life, but was assasinated in 1923 by an unknown assailant(s).

Many Dems still think Pancho should be pursued and wonder what happend to Cisco.

-Renny J. Caulder

By Chris Salzmann

September 11, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Jeffjohn: My wife and I have been cell phone ONLY users for 4 years now and have never been polled since. Same with many of our friends. We used to be polled regularly when we had land lines.

This is a cut-paste from Wikipedia.org.

QuoteCoverage bias

Alternately, in some places, many people have only mobile telephones. Because pollsters cannot call mobile phones (it is unlawful in the United States to make unsolicited calls to phones where the phone’s owner may be charged simply for taking a call), these individuals will never be included in the polling sample.

Read & Weep.

By LECIESTER CITY SUCKS

September 11, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

VOTE NO Milosevic,

Irony? Hissy fit (there’s that term again indicating you feeling overwhelmed by debating your superiors)? Hardly either. I really could care less about your little video game. I was merely pointing out just how much of a sick freak you are. No emotion, just observation, my little ignorant chav. LOL! It’s way too easy to get a rise out of you.

First you refer to an article last week that advocates race war between blacks and whites and now you share your little video game with that is all about shooting Muslims. This is quite entertaining. Your second favorite footy club wouldn’t happen to be Red Star Belgrade, would it?

By Chris Salzmann

September 11, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

Jeffjohn: My wife and I have been cell phone ONLY users for 4 years now and have never been polled since. Same with many of our friends. We used to be polled regularly when we had land lines.

This is a cut-paste from Wikipedia.org.

QuoteCoverage bias

Alternately, in some places, many people have only mobile telephones. Because pollsters cannot call mobile phones (it is unlawful in the United States to make unsolicited calls to phones where the phone’s owner may be charged simply for taking a call), these individuals will never be included in the polling sample.

Read & Weep.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

CATCHING O’SAMBO BIN LADEN

That has to be the best goad of the day!!

My impressed as hell congrats BSaplenty.

Watch out for the anal hectoring screeches of “racist”, wear them as cyber badges of honour. I knows I does (snigger).

I wonder, once the bestial towel head camel humper and perverted nanny goat afficionado bin laden is finally eviscerated by a drone missile or a cluster bomb whether PETA will start bleating about cruelty to the innocent harem of Paki camels and goats.

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

September 11, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this

I wonder, once the bestial towel head camel humper and perverted nanny goat afficionado bin laden is finally eviscerated by a drone missile or a cluster bomb whether PETA will start bleating about cruelty to the innocent harem of Paki camels and goats.

Wouldn’t this damage the White House?

By Tuffy, the Airborne Soldier

September 11, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

Good Grief, Jim. Did you ask the same dumbassed question of Palin’s selection? Are you that shallow that no one would notice the tenor of your question? Of Course Biden was a smart pick. McStoopid picked Palin to get a splash with women voters (obviously pandering) and guess what?? Those white women voters flocked to Palin, not because of her political stance, but because they could connect with her. Wait until the dust settles and it comes out that she will set womens advances BACK 100 years. She is shrill, clearly not in control of her emotions, and after the “WOW” moment, she is not qualified. Much like the moronically inept McCain. (And I truly used to like him, military man to military man). Joe Biden brings statesmanship, and, like Papa McStoopid, experience in Washington. The difference, the Obama/Biden ticket can and would actually make advances in Washington over the next 4 to 8 years, whereas, the McLame/Failin’ ticket would continue the politics of nothing. Our position would not change as we have no clear idea of where McStoopid wants to take us. I, for one, have not heard one iota of policy out of his mouth, other than his position on the surge. Failin’ has only said her nomination acceptance speech and not much else as it relates to how we advance and adress the growing domestic and global issues.

So yeah, Jimmy boy, Biden IS a good pick. He happens to have an opnion on each of the topics that concern Americans. He doesn’t have to outshine the head of his ticket. Where Failin’ must in order for any kind of splash for you ReThuglicans…

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this

BSaplenty,

I know that the lefist vermit is going to call your comment racist because it is. That’s how I know. So what though.

The sniggers is well hung so they should get over it.

The perverted leftist humpers won’t let me fulfill my snigger penile loving.

By LEICESTER CITY SUCKS

September 11, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this

BS Aplenty,

Yes, George W Bush has basically made our military turn into butter by having them running around in circles instead of catching Osama. Very astute observation. Isn’t it time for change?

VOTE NO,

Your attempt at ebonics in your 340 post is really really terrible. If you call that satire, I’m almost embarassed for you. Be a good little chav and stick to Cockney.

BTW, nice to see you shy away from my 326 post. Keep up the cowardice, mate. ROTFLMAO!

By Bad Brad

September 11, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Calhoun’s a typical leftist, wanting bin laden to occupy the White House. Why don’t you marry him if you love him so much, traitorous, leftist vermin. You can hole up in a border love cave.

By Sick of Palin

September 11, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

It amazes me that people can actually believe that this woman could lead our country. We have already seen what another “outsider” can do. Do we really wish to live through another four years of crap? Come on America, get with the program and let’s not elect another dumb cowboy or in Palin’s defense, a hockey mom.

By LECIESTER CITY SUCKS

September 11, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

VOTE NO,

What the hell does half-black uppity black mean? Is the person you’re referring to biracial, completely black, or just uppity in a Sidney Portier aka Virgil Tibbs kind of way.

Also, explain how you’re not racist given your use of the word Paki in your last post, your little kiddie video game that’s about shooting Muslims, and your advocacy of race war.

Use this as an opportunity to share your inner TFTT with us…you know, the little man behind the curtain.

By Sick of Palin

September 11, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

It amazes me that people can actually believe that this woman could lead our country. We have already seen what another “outsider” can do. Do we really wish to live through another four years of crap? Come on America, get with the program and let’s not elect another dumb cowboy or in Palin’s defense, a hockey mom.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

@ the sad sick and twisted anal anally unfunny stalKKKer

“race war between blacks and whites” … bubbaturd put that jumbo crack pipe down and chill ….

the CURRENT race war here is between blacks and mexican types. the racial tensions there are MOST AMUSING … but then non-whites are FAR more racist than whites. ay not ahve bneen the case under the vile jim row KKK scum 40-50+ years ago but it is now. Just ask IL Grand Dragon J Wright all about that!!!

a jolly amusing map for ya … which proves my point in just ONE minority white city!!

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/crime/homicidemap/

change the dates and see the killing fields figures for the last year or two or three … this is modern day multi-cultural America under a demoNcrat run sanctuary city!!

BTW dogturdbreath … my “second” team is G.R.F.C.

By Tuffy, the Airborne Soldier

September 11, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this

To Vote No to Half-Black Uppity…

What in the world is a snigger??? Donkey. Does it go hand in hand with uppity?? Racially maligned bufoon that you are and white supremacist punk that hides behind the flag that I fought for. As much as you rednecks have lied about this NOT being about race, you let this vermin slither out from under the rock from which he belongs, to represent the true American white folks of this country who understand brotherhood. Please make this idiot and his accident of an existence slime back up to the garbage chute in which he was spewed.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this

LECEISTER YOU SUCK,

This is a free country. A snigger is a snigger, be it Sidney or Virgil.

I just want one thing from’em.

12 inch delight!

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

BTW, nice to see you shy away from my 326 post. Keep up the cowardice, mate. ROTFLMAO!

Now now Mr Liberace’s ageing drooping toyboy … that 3.26 pileofgobshite was indeed superb sniggering material which I was wittily and FACTUALLY answering as U were smoking that huge bad rock and continuing with ur compulsive obsessive cyber stalKKKing of ur intellectual and genetic betters!!

U see how easy it is to get rabid far left nutters like U to bite like a demented energiser piranha!!

By RENE

September 11, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

THE LIVERALS ARE DESPERETE TO WIN THEY WILL EVEN TAKE FIDEL CASTRO IF HE WAS ALIVE BY THE WAY IF HE LIKES TO SEE A PIG WITH LIPSTICK ALL HE NEED TO DO IS LOOK AT HIS WIFE

By LECIESTER CITY SUCKS

September 11, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

VOTE NO,

It truly doesn’t surprise me that a right-wing nut job like yourself would like the Rangers. I guess we should chalk up Catholics up there among the groups you hate.

Now please share with us some of the more racist quotes that Jeremiah Wright has said against whites. And no, “God damn America” is not a racist quote against whites.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

Tuffy,

Don’t you have a drive by shooting to commit?

The lefist snigger loving DNC don’t ask me stupid questions like that.

I love snigger peniles, but not for president!

By Curious Observer

September 11, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Christians have a live and let live view on life, while the Muslims view it a little different.

Oh, I get it! That’s why these Christians want to pass extra-territorial anti-abortion laws that would allow them to track down and arrest any citizen who gets an abortion in another state. I suppose that’s live-and-let-live-until-we-catch-you.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

Paki is merely an abbreviation of Pakistani, like Brit is of British and Aussie is of Australian (snigger snigger).

time to hang ur self IN SHAME off the Golden Gate Bridge in San Fran Sicko.

ur PIG ignorance of everyday English is astonishing

half-black means half black

uppity means uppity

black racist means black racist … F.F.S. bubbaturd - U is even dumber than a far left treasonous venal senator from NV.

By Maniac is accurate

September 11, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Congratulations to the candidates for laying aside the knives on this date and appearing together as Americans to remember the fallen of Sept. 11. Let’s remember to be thankful we live in a nation where we can express the opinions we do here.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

WOW … a BRILLIANT, monumental hissy fit of the day from some thickaspigsh*t wannabe macho MoRoN who fancies himself as John Wayne … more like John Wayne Gacy.

Racially maligned bufoon that you are and white supremacist punk that hides behind the flag that I fought for

LMFAO … now that was freaking hilarious!!

My flag wankface is the Union Flag. Doubt U served in the British Army. But you incompetent yanks keep killing British servicemen by “friendly fire”.

FOR THE VERY LAST TIME … snigger is simply an old English term for a sneering, repressed laugh!!

I loathe knuckle dragging KKK type white supremacists just as much as I loathe liberals and racist racial spoils blacks!!

By LECIESTER CITY SUCKS

September 11, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

VOTE NO Milosevic,

Cheers for the deranged meltdown at 413! LOL!

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST

September 11, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

Gay means gay, which I am. That’s why I love snigger penile.

Obamaboy is a black racist but I would love to suck his lollipop!

Snigger Snigger

By LECIESTER CITY SUCKS

September 11, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

VOTE NO Milosevic,

Oh boy. Try calling a Pakistani a Paki and watch you get your silly little chav arse kicked. I’ve never met a Pakistani, let alone a Pakistani Brit, who isn’t offended by the term.

So is the person to whom you are referring in your ID half-black or black? You still haven’t clarified yourself. Can you at least try without throwing a…how you say…hissy fit?

Also, still waiting for you to quote a racist comment against whites by Jeremiah Wright. Please try to do it without the typical homo references.

By BS Aplenty

September 11, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Would you imposters, faux imposters and impotent imposters posing as faux imposters please spell my name right. I don’t mind your snide commentary, snarky sidebars, your lotions, creams and, uh, other “paraphenalia”.

But bad grammar is simply unforgivable. That’d be capital “B”, capital “S” and capital “A-plenty”.

Dear lord the ignorance you have to put up with sometimes.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

“like the Rangers” …HA HA HA HA …. U sound like a six year spoiled sheltered kiddie. One supports a football team!! Jesus wept!!!

“right wing nut job” … so the GOADING is going real well this afternoon again I see. Cheers for all the simpering abject jealousy bubbaturd!!! Most generous of ya!!

Even better to see is that the anal anally unfunny HOMO OBSESSED narcissistic id thief is back on the job. Such as sad utterly inadequate jobbie as this really needs that extra court ordered lobotomy!!

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

Oh boy. Try calling a Pakistani a Paki and watch you get your silly little chav arse kicked. I’ve never met a Pakistani, let alone a Pakistani Brit, who isn’t offended by the term.

Most non-mohammedan indians call them pakis, so do aussies, many Brits and even Bangladeshis. The folks who the pakis GENOCIDALLY butchered TWO MILLION OF BACK IN THE 1970’S.

And the paki bastids cheat at chricket. Just read Imran Khan’s autobiography and google cheating paki umpires.

My ID clearly wittily and factually refers to Hussein Obama who is a half-black black racist muslim!!

By DCDawg

September 11, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Another bit of info on the “feminist” Sarah Palin:

From Sept. 11, 2008 USA Today

Palin’s town used to bill victims for rape kits

By Ken Dilanian and Matt Kelley, USA TODAY WASILLA, Alaska — In 2000, Alaska lawmakers learned that rural police agencies had been billing rape victims or their insurance companies $500 to $1,200 for the costs of the forensic medical examinations used to gather evidence. They quickly passed a law prohibiting the practice. According to the sponsor, Democrat Eric Croft, the law was aimed in part at Wasilla, where now-Gov. Sarah Palin was mayor. When it was signed, Wasilla’s police chief expressed displeasure.

WASILLA LIBRARY: Palin did not ban books as mayor “In the past, we’ve charged the cost of exams to the victims’ insurance company when possible,” then-chief Charlie Fannon told the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman, the local newspaper. “I just don’t want to see any more burden put on the taxpayer.”

Now that Palin is the Republican nominee for vice president, Democrats such as former Alaska governor Tony Knowles — who signed the rape-kit bill into law and was defeated by Palin in 2006 — are raising the issue to question Palin’s commitment to women’s issues and crime victims. Palin appointed Fannon after firing his predecessor shortly after she took office in 1996.

“In retrospect, I would have asked the female working-mother mayor of that town why her police chief was against this,” said Croft, the former Anchorage state representative.

Palin spokeswoman Maria Comella said in an e-mail that the governor “does not believe, nor has she ever believed, that rape victims should have to pay for an evidence-gathering test.”

“Gov. Palin’s position could not be more clear,” she said. “To suggest otherwise is a deliberate misrepresentation of her commitment to supporting victims and bringing violent criminals to justice.”

Comella would not answer other questions, including when Palin learned of Wasilla’s policy or whether she tried to change it. The campaign cited the governor’s record on domestic violence, including increasing funding for shelters.

Knowles criticized Palin to USA TODAY, and again Wednesday in a teleconference organized by Democrats. “It seems like one of those pieces of legislation that you can’t imagine it would ever have to be written,” he said.

Until the 2000 legislation, local law enforcement agencies in Alaska could pass along the cost of the exams, which are needed to obtain an attacker’s DNA evidence. Rape victims in several areas of Alaska, including the Matanuska-Susitna Valley where Wasilla is, complained about being charged for the tests, victims’ advocate Lauree Hugonin, of the Alaska Network on Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault, told state House committees, records show.

In cases when insurance companies are billed, the victims pay a deductible.

Fannon told the Frontiersman that the tests would cost the department up to $14,000 per year. He said he would rather force rapists to pay for the tests, not taxpayers. Fannon, who is no longer police chief, could not be reached for comment Wednesday; his home phone number has been disconnected.

It is not known how many rape victims in Wasilla were required to pay for some or all of the medical exams, but a legislative staffer who worked on the bill for Croft said it happened. “It was more than a couple of cases, and it was standard practice in Wasilla,” Peggy Wilcox said, who now works for the Alaska Public Employees Association. “If you were raped in Wasilla, this was going to happen to you.”

After calling Wasilla Mayor Dianne Keller for comment Tuesday, USA TODAY was instructed to submit a public records request, under which the city has 10 days to respond. As of Wednesday, the city had not responded to a request for records reflecting Wasilla’s prior policy, including when it took effect and the cost to sexual assault victims.

In 2000, there were 497 rapes reported in Alaska, FBI statistics show. That’s a rate of 79.3 per 100,000 residents, the highest in the nation.

Nationally, victims’ advocates have for years reported scattered instances of rape victims being required to pay for their forensic tests, says Ilse Knecht of the National Center for Victims of Crime in Washington. Those complaints have subsided somewhat after Congress in 2005 passed a law requiring states to provide rape exams free of charge or reimburse victims for the costs, says Knecht, whose group supported the provision.

“The reason we passed the legislation was that we saw it was prevalent enough to be a pretty considerable problem,” Knecht says. “There are no other victims of crime that end up being billed for evidence collection.”

The Senate version of the legislation that included the rape-exam provision was sponsored by Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, the Democratic vice presidential nominee. Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama was one of 58 co-sponsors; Republican presidential nominee John McCain was not.

Matt Kelley reported from Washington

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST

September 11, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Id stealing homophobe stealing my id.

my sexuality is my business so stay out lefist pig snigger lovers!!

My man don’t like when ya’ll harass me, he’s a well hung jealous half-snigger half-hymie!

By anonymous

September 11, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

“Ah, but there is a Joe, a fine Joe, who would be a spectacular choice for vice president. That’d be Joe Biden, U.S. Senator, Deleware, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.” -Jim Wooten

By Mooseburgers in Washington

September 11, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

In a world where a young, spunky woman can achieve greatness when pulled out of obscurity….

Disney, in partnership with Lifetime, is proud to present the endearing story of the PTA member and hockey mom who has touched America’s heart!

Sarah Palin stars as Sarah Palin in “Mooseburgers in Washington” along with everybody’s favorite sidekick John McCain.

You’ll be as touched by her folksy charm and provincial wisdom as Sarah goes up against Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Vladimir Putin in her quest to save America and maybe, just maybe, get that Bridge to Nowhere after all!

Advance tickets are on sale with a special discount available for the dim-witted and gullible. Restrictions apply.

By Algonquin J. Calhoun

September 11, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Caught in duplicity Jim? How surprising! How much are you paid by the Republinazi Party for being their hack mouthpiece?

By HIDT

September 11, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

It ain’t be tftt, but most likely a treasonist, leftist vermin wanker.

By jeffjohn

September 11, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

DCDawg Police Chief Fannon went on to say that he believed the criminal should be held responsible for the costs, which run from $5,000-$14,000 per year for all assault cases. USA Today did not reprint those quotes from the interview, though. “The forensic exam is just one part of the equation,” Fannon said at the time “I’d like to see the courts make these people pay restitution for these things.” I couldn’t agree more.!!!! THE CRIMINALS NOT THE VICTIMS.!!!!! You MORONS will believe anything. Do you think if it was true it would be all over cbs, nbc, abc, Obama or his people would be talking about it? USE YOUR FRIGGING HEADS.

By HIDT

September 11, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

It ain’t me tftt, but most likely a treasonist, leftist vermin wanker.

By jeffjohn

September 11, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

DCDawg Police Chief Fannon went on to say that he believed the criminal should be held responsible for the costs, which run from $5,000-$14,000 per year for all assault cases. USA Today did not reprint those quotes from the interview, though. “The forensic exam is just one part of the equation,” Fannon said at the time “I’d like to see the courts make these people pay restitution for these things.” I couldn’t agree more.!!!! THE CRIMINALS NOT THE VICTIMS.!!!!! You MORONS will believe anything. Do you think if it was true it would be all over cbs, nbc, abc, Obama or his people would be talking about it? USE YOUR FRIGGING HEADS.

By marko

September 11, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this

Jim, once again I find myself touched by your kind consideration for our candidate. Did Obama chose the correct running mate? That depends. Another man less popular with his supporters might chose a pro-life fundalmentalist, from pray away the gay church, to shore up his less than enthusiastic base. Another man,already popular with his supporters, has the luxury of chosing a man he knows and trust. A better question might be, after decades in Washington, why did McCain choose a running mate he hardly knew?

By Clint

September 11, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

Whoa! The right-wing Repunk NASCAR cretins are here in strength today. See their language. See their linguistic skills. See their logic, their intellectual processes at work. Witness their hatred, their full-time bitterness, their bigotry, their lives of total weakness and failure after failure. Such inferiors are forever drawn, like magnets, to one another. Hatred begets hatred. Ignorance begets ignorance. There is only ONE large organization in the U.S. that traditionally appeals heavily to angry, bitter people - that assuredly is and has been…the Republiscum Party. The proof of this fact is endlessly backed up by their own words and behavior. History. Fact. Pitiful.

By Sue Bee

September 11, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this

Biden did not bring enough electoral votes. Obama should have picked somebody from a battleground state—whatever that is—with more electoral votes.

sue bee

By RIck LaBonte

September 11, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

*Obama Wakes From Horrible Hillary Nightmare, Realizes He Picked BIden While He Was Asleep. *

A double nightmare that will haunt Obama and the Democrats for decades to come. It was only after he stumbled out of bed and was rudely awakened in a stupor did it sink in that this part of the nightmare was all too real. Like a hasty, drunken, drug-soaked Las Vegas wedding, Obama’s immature mpetuousity now has him moaning with his head in his hands.

“How could I have been so stupid?” He groans. His wife Michelle goaded him into picking someone other than Hillary, someone toward whom she could feel superior. Motormouth Joe fit the bill. They never suspected McCain to be clever enough to pick America’s New Sweetheart.

By CommunistAJC

September 11, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

If Biden was not a bad pick then why are the democrats screaming and howling? Why is Obama Hussein trailing Obama in every poll except the CBS/CNN/MSNBC poll? Bye bye democrats.

By Rick LaBonte

September 11, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

*Obama Wakes From Horrible Hillary Nightmare, Realizes He Picked BIden While He Was Asleep. *

A double nightmare that will haunt Obama and the Democrats for decades to come. It was only after he stumbled out of bed and was rudely awakened in a stupor did it sink in that this part of the nightmare was all too real. Like a hasty, drunken, drug-soaked Las Vegas wedding, Obama’s immature mpetuousity now has him moaning with his head in his hands.

“How could I have been so stupid?” He groans. His wife Michelle goaded him into picking someone other than Hillary, someone toward whom she could feel superior. Motormouth Joe fit the bill. They never suspected McCain to be clever enough to pick America’s New Sweetheart.

By Fred

September 11, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this

Every four years, a republican proudly proclaims their belief in God, and every four years, the democrats proceed to paint that person as a fire-breathing, intolerant zealot who will burn books and non-believers at the stake. Most of the time the GOP wins, but somehow, we aren’t living in religious concentration camps yet. Yawn. Every four years.

Come to think of it, it’s kind of like the environmentalists too. Put down the lattes, gang.

By VOTE NO TO HALF-BLACK UPPITY BLACK RACIST MUSLIMS

September 11, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

“like the Rangers” …HA HA HA HA …. U sound like a six year spoiled sheltered kiddie. One supports a football team!! Jesus wept!!!

“right wing nut job” … so the GOADING is going real well this afternoon again I see. Cheers for all the simpering abject jealousy bubbaturd!!! Most generous of ya!!

Even better to see is that the anal anally unfunny HOMO OBSESSED narcissistic id thief is back on the job. Such as sad utterly inadequate jobbie as this really needs that extra court ordered lobotomy!!

By Churchill

September 12, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this

Anything Goes, Apparently

Published: September 11, 2008 It seemed inevitable that bad things would happen when President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney packed the top posts at the Department of the Interior with lobbyists who had spent their careers representing the very industries they were now being asked to regulate. But it was left to Earl Devaney, the department’s inspector general — and the busiest gumshoe inside the federal bureaucracy — to demonstrate just how bad things could be.

In three extraordinary reports delivered to Congress this week, Mr. Devaney found that officials at the Minerals Management Service — the division responsible for granting offshore oil leases and collecting royalties — accepted gifts, steered contracts to favored clients and engaged in drugs and sex with oil company employees as part of what he described as a broader “culture of substance abuse and promiscuity.”

At the center of the scandal is the royalty-in-kind program, under which the service takes delivery of oil and gas in lieu of cash payments from energy companies, then sells it to refiners. The program is vulnerable to manipulation at either end of the transaction, by overvaluing the oil and gas when it is received or undervaluing it when it is sold.

The program obviously needs a complete overhaul. It has already been the subject of multiple investigations — by Mr. Devaney; Dirk Kempthorne, the interior secretary; the Justice Department; and Congress — for mismanagement and conflicts of interest. In an earlier report in 2007, Mr. Devaney found that the agency had failed — through negligence and possible ethical lapses — to collect billions of dollars in royalties from oil companies for leases in the Gulf of Mexico.

His new reports add more shameful details, including allegations that agency employees accepted gratuities and other favors — meals, ski trips, sports tickets and golf outings with industry representatives — “with prodigious frequency.”

Mr. Kempthorne, who has already transferred some employees and almost certainly will fire more, can take some comfort from the fact that nearly all of the misbehavior occurred before he arrived in Washington in 2006 to replace Gale Norton as interior secretary.

The White House can take no comfort at all. The people it brought to Washington to run the department had no interest in policing the oil, mining and agricultural interests they were sworn to regulate and every interest in promoting industry’s (and their own) good fortune. The most notorious of these was J. Steven Griles, a mining industry lobbyist who really ran the agency for four years and who later pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice in the Jack Abramoff scandal.

The fruit of these terrible appointments was aptly described by Mr. Devaney two years ago when he appeared before a House subcommittee. “Short of a crime,” he said, “anything goes at the Department of the Interior.”

By DBCOOPER

September 12, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

OIL COMPANIES HELP!! HELP!! I’m SO SCARED!! HELP! HELP! Sorry I have to go, drive to my job.

By anonymous

September 12, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

CommunistAJC, what polls are you looking at?? You can’t just view the ones touted by the GOP.

By cmm

September 12, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

In light of Gov. Palin’s embarrassing interview on foreign policy issues, it’s especially amusing to see Jim Wooten asking if OBAMA’s choice for veep is a disaster. Governor Palin’s lack of knowledge of basic issues and apparent disinterest in digging further into them is reminiscent of another recent “down home fella” elected because he seemed like someone you would want to have a beer with. And look where that has gotten us. Time to turn your question around and ask it of the Republican candidate, Jim.

By donkey Kong

September 12, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this

As a card carrying Democrat and one who voted for John Kerry in last election, I have to say that Senator Biden brings as much baggage too the table as he does Zeal. He sure has not inspired any of us Hillary Clinton supporters in choosing Obama over McCain. In fact McCain is more on our side of the issues than Obama or his Obamabots ever were. I would much rather have a highly educated woman in office than some celebrity candidate who would starve to death looking at himself in the mirror if no one moved him away. Hillary is voting for her and our friend John McCain, no doubt about it,Bill and Chelsea will be pulling the lever for John McCain also…

By Grading Wooten

September 12, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Cynthia McKinney is to the lunatic fringe on the left what Sarah Palin is to the lunatic fringe on the Right.

Palin is part of a movement to secede Alaska from the USA. She thinks the Bush Doctrine is “one in the hand is worth two in the bush”. (Hey, isn’t that what got her daughter in trouble)?

Cynthia McKinney thinks W lied to the American people about WMDs and the Saddam Hussein/Al Queda connection. Cynthia McKinney thinks that Cheney and Bush were warned by the FBI and the CIA about plans Al Queda had to fly planes into skyscrapers. Cynthia McKinney thinks that Bush knew about the sleeper cells of Al Queda taking flying lessons and living quiet lives as hockey moms and dads.

Cynthia McKinney thinks Bush has been the worst president we’ve ever had bar none.

But Sarah Palin thinks that if she can see a country, she can pack her foreign policy resume with that country. Well, sarah, I see england, I see France, but how many have seen your daughter’s underpants……

Sarah Palin thinks we should not educate our underaged, unmarried daughters about sex. I guess Sarah’s Secret is Victoria’s Secret.

John McCain was tortured as a POW. Sarah Palin feels tortured by NOW.

Obama 08: Aint no secrets.

By Boys in the Hood

September 12, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

Rumor is that Joe Biden may step down from the campaign.

What will that leave Obama with? His first executive choice a ending as a dismal failure. I see nothing but questions and raised eyebrows resulting from Obama’s choice. The biased media is gritting its teeth and putting on airs with charlatan features covering this election cycle, even going so far as NBC did by talking about Super Licewhile the rest of the Country Observed a moment of silence for the 9-11 victims yesterday.

I will give ol’boma a bit of advice: You need to go back to your line of drivel and “CHANGE” speech. It was working and when you talk of experience your constituents get you in as much hot water as anyone else. You don’t have any!

Harry Reid Galvanized the women in this country the right after Gov. Palin’s speech when he made the statement that she was a quote: “Shrill” woman….That statement alone has cost Obama millions of undecided votes. You witnessed it by the CNN coverage. The female journalist immediately came to her defense by stating that no one had ever called a male candidate Shrill and angry. Liberal/ Conservative female journalist alike coalesced and came to her defense……

Watch Wait and See.

If Biden is forced or asked to resign from the ticket then can we say that Senator Obama ‘Swift’ Boated himself?

By Papa Bear

September 12, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

You uber libs just can’t help it can you. The coverage of Sarah Palin in the press, and comments (too many are lies) in blogs like this are just pushing reasonable, sane, LIKELY voters into the republican camp. I was a proud Democrat, but no more. The leadership and vision have been horrible for the last two elections. And the rank and file… I now see mostly liars, hypocrytes, and celebrity wannabe’s. As long as the Democratic Party wants to bow to the looney fringes, who repeatedly let them down come election day, I will not support their canidate. Care about people and principles again, not just winning elections at the cost of all you believe in.

By Gerald Middlebrooks

September 12, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

Regarding Sen. Obama’s pick of Sen. Joe Biden: Sen. Biden is a man of integrity and honesty and an individual who says what he believes, based on fact and common sense. I think Sen. Joe Biden was an excellent addition to the ticket of Sen. Obama. With the foreign policy experience, government experience and world leaders he has conferred with, the Obama/Biden ticket is good for America. In addition, he has come from humble beginnings and has not forgotten the struggle. It is my opinion with Obama and Biden, two men whose past is somewhat similar in that they both struggled to educate themselves and is willing to extend a helping hand to those individuals who would better themselves through education while becoming involved in community service, is a plus that we will all profit from. Also, according to Mr. Biden, - and I agree - this is the most important election of our time and with the one shot we have to get it right, we should not sit on our laurels and let the McCain/Republican camp steal this one!

By Anonymous

September 13, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

You know, I never really read all the comments so if this was posted already somewhere on here I apologize, but all this stuff about Palin supporting the Bridge to nowhere and her husband being whoever or whatever he was in 2002; what does that have to do with anything now?

I mean, I could care less, it has NOTHING to do with what’s going on now. Just think, if McCain had NOT picked Palin for his VP pick would the democrats and mainly the media be trying to dig up all this dirt on her. They’re only doing it because they know the Obama-Biden campaign is in trouble.

All this mess was started by the democrats. Maybe not the Obama-Biden campaign itself but the democratic party started it and the republican party and or McCain camp is firing back.

I’m just really tired of hearing all this stuff about her, because frankly WHO CARE’S; I don’t. Let the past stay buried. People change over time.

Ask yourself this question. Since all this dirt is being dug up on Palin trying to lean voters, mainly the undecideds to vote Obama, why is is that no dirt is being bought up on Biden? I’m sure there’s some type of dirt that could be brought up on him.

The main reason is he’s a male.

Look, I’m male too and I applaud Palin for sticking up to all this dirt being brought up on her, but enough is enough.

Just leave the poor lady alone.

However, I do think Obama made a mistake by not picking Hillary for his VP, because if he had he may have won this election by a landslide because all the Clinton supporters would flock to his domain.

However, November 4th will be the big day and I’ve already cast my vote.

McCain/Palin 2008= the REAL people who can and will change this country once they’re sworn in.