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Spotlight turns to teen father-to-be
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The experts who stage political conventions are far smarter than I am about how to handle stories that are likely to result in a media frenzy. But dang if I’d have brought the father of Bristol Palin’s baby to the GOP convention on one of the three most important days in Gov. Sarah Palin’s campaign life.
The third of those important days is Oct. 2 when the vice presidential debate is held at Washington University in St. Louis. The first was her introduction last Friday.
Governor Palin was spectacular on the day she was introduced to the nation as John McCain’s vice presidential nomination. She was confident and comfortable before what may have been the largest audience she had ever addressed. She easily passed the first major test.
The second comes Wednesday night when she addresses delegates and, more importantly, the nation. When her name was mentioned Tuesday night, delegates roared their approval. They share the sentiment expressed by former U.S. Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee — “what a breath of fresh air Gov. Sarah Palin is” — and they’re ready to showcase her to the rest of the country.
They want the nation to see her as Thompson does: “She is a courageous, successful reformer who is not afraid to take on the establishment” and is, furthermore, a small town woman with small-town values.
That’s the reception she’d get, too. The nation that’s not jaded or devoted to the opposition will find her to be the breath of fresh air Thompson describes.
Wednesday is her day to shine.
She is a bold selection who represented some risk for McCain and the GOP. A New York Times story on Tuesday agonized about whether the woman can do it all, something incidentally I’ve never read about a man offered the vice presidency, no matter his family situation.
The point, really, is that the first few days of media attention is intense. She’ll do fine, I believe, based on her performance to date. But the young man?
Having him here on her day is daring. He and the pregnant daughter become the dominant story of the day leading up to Governor Palin’s convention moment. It may make sense to the experts to get it all out of the way up-front. But to this PR amateur, it looks like a bad call.




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Comments
By MoveOn Talking Points Desk
September 3, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this
From: MoveOn.org To: Democratic National Party, Obama Campaign Headquarters, Mainstream Media Subject: Attack Focus Next Week
You’ll need to focus your attack next week on the Palin’s family dog next week. Find out the following:
If possible, release some fleas near the Palin home. A manufactured story is always welcomed!
By the way, MAKE SURE YOUR REPORTERS DO NOT ASK PRESIDENT OBAMA ANY TOUGH QUESTIONS!!! This especially means you ABC! I expect you to remind George Stephanopoulos we’ll have his head if he tries that trick again!
By Peadawg
September 3, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this
I do agree w/ Obama on ONE thing: Family should be off limits.
By tdh
September 3, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this
the father of her baby.let us see if someone on fox news calls him her baby’s daddy.
By bernie
September 3, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this
Oh good, nopw the future son-in-law; yet another prop to further the political ambitions of Ms. Palin. As if using her daughter in this way wasn’t bad enough. Typical cynical Republican strategy; energize the base by injecting a contentious social issue into the campaign to create a wedge issue. What mother would do this to her daughter; it’s sick! I hope he daughter never forgives her…
By My3Kids
September 3, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this
It maybe a bad call, however I give the boy kudos. According to the story on the AJC, Bristol and the boy had already planned on getting married before she discovered she was pregnant. He is apart of Gov. Palin’s family now. The family apparently wants him there and he wants to be there. He is probably there to support his new extended family. This is a huge event, who wouldn’t want to be there to give their support and encouragement.
By bernie
September 3, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this
Oh good, now the future son-in-law; yet another prop to further the political ambitions of Ms. Palin. As if using her daughter in this way wasn’t bad enough. Typical cynical Republican strategy; energize the base by injecting a contentious social issue into the campaign to create a wedge issue. What mother would do this to her daughter; it’s sick! I hope he daughter never forgives her…
By Fred Flintstone
September 3, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this
Mayor Palin gathered up $27 million in subsidies from Washington, $15 million of it for a railroad from her town to the ski resort hometown of Senator Ted Stevens, now under indictment for failing to report gifts.
The Republicans are presenting Ms. Palin as a crusader against Mr. Stevens’s infamous “Bridge to Nowhere.” The record says otherwise; she initially supported Mr. Stevens’s boondoggle, diverting the money to other projects when the bridge became a political disaster.
In her speech to the Wasilla Assembly of God in June, Ms. Palin said it was “God’s will” that the federal government contribute to a $30 billion gas pipeline she wants built in Alaska.
By haha
September 3, 2008 8:19 AM | Link to this
His title will be the first “Baby Daddy” LOL!
By Shannon
September 3, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this
Ask yourself this question, “how many 17 or 18 yr olds are ready to get married? Why are they forcing these children to get married? Just for the sake of an election you are willing to force two teens into something that they are not ready for to only end in divorce a few years later! Please give me a break! This happens everyday, unfortunately she like a lot of other teens made a mistake but are we sure marriage is the answer? Lets be real, you are supposed to be married prior to getting pregnant so what is getting married after you are 5 months pregnant going to prove? I wish the media would just let this story die and go away and let this family deal with their problems privately so we can all get back to our own family issues!
By Peadawg
September 3, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this
haha @ 8:19
he isn’t a baby daddy if they’re getting married soon and she KNOWS who the father is. baby daddy is for the girl who has 6 kids w/ 6 different dads.
By Jan
September 3, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this
Bernie
I completely agree! Rather than choose a jaded, old white man - the cynical Republicans looked long and hard for a candidate with a fine example of a contentious social issue built in to their family.
By dave
September 3, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
The events of the last few days have convinced me that there is nothing too low for the media and the liberals. I have no hesitation now, to donate to the “swift boating” Oboma, his wife or anyone assoicated with these people.
By threedeep
September 3, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this
hypocrites
By CONSERVATIVE VOTER
September 3, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this
LEVI JOHNSON AKA THE “BABY DADDY” IS A HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUT.
He hasn’t completed high school. Jim Wooten has written articles demonizing poor women who decide to have children at an early age. I am still waiting for your article. They are forcing these children to get married.
Is this suppose to be conservative values? This is one independent that will not vote for the McCain/Palin ticket.
I will not parade any women especially my UNWED daughter for sympathy votes.
One more opportunity for major league HYPOCRISY. If Palin, the GOP and White House are genuine in chastizing the media for coverage of a deeply personal, family matter, why will Palin bring the unwed father into the spotlight at the Republican National Convention. Isn’t that polticizing it and using it for publicity? Why would you celebrate the bad choices and consequences of a naive UNMARRIED teenage couple on national television, if you wanted them out of the spotlight?
By Copyleft
September 3, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
I love how the kid openly admits to being a redneck.
Only among the desperate, dwindling fragment of Bushdrones would that ever be considered a “positive.”
Meanwhile, the rest of America is ready for an INTELLIGENT administration… and President Obama is providing it.
By Goldie
September 3, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this
It’s great to see just how much the extremists of the Repug Party don’t want McBush setting the tone for their “platform”, which clearly states that no exceptions will be allowed for a woman’s choice to not be an incubator. No exception for rape, incest or the health of the mother… which is contrary to what their guy McBush believes. McBush is just too compassionate for the extremists to bear.
By jm
September 3, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this
I wonder why Mr. Wooten does not mention that “the establishment” Gov. Palin took on was the state GOP.
By mel
September 3, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this
No, a babydaddy is the father of your child if you aren’t married, which they are not.
But you keep moving those goal-posts when it suits you…
I can’t wait to see the babymama and babydaddy onstage together. How American!
I read that Palin’s husband is part of a group that wants Alaska to secede from the US. I think we need to have that patriotism discussion again…
By Goldie
September 3, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this
Fred @ 8:19, and Palin also calls the American occupation of Iraq “a task from God”… please, God help us all— save us from the American Taliban!
By Dutchman
September 3, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this
It does seem strange. The media seems stuck on what Sarah Palin’s family has done and not on how little BHO has done.
Let’s see - three years in the Senate and half that time running for President - now that is experience.
Seems the lamer the attacks by the lefties, the more I will vote for McCain. Of course I was leaning that way anyway, I’ll trust a man or woman that has worn the uniform of our military over someone out of the Chicago political machine.
By yankee
September 3, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
Anything to keep the focus off McSame.
By mscutie78
September 3, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
Way to go Gov. Palin - drag the baby’s dad into the mix to further your own agenda and career - what a GREAT example you are for our nation!
By ckt
September 3, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this
Her introduction was spectacular??? Her introduction, Jim, was laced with bald-faced lies. Not bad opinions, but factual lies. Palin DID NOT stand against the bridge for nowhere, but actually campaigned for it, until the story became known. She then tried to drive the earmarked money into other areas of the state. Palin did not fight earmarks, as she stated, but rather, working with a group of lobbyists, brought $27 million in earmarks to the small town of Wasilla.
Yup, Jim, she sounds like a breath of fresh air. Straight from the corrupt, smelly, lobbyist controlled GOP that we’re used to. McCain is no down 6 to 8 points for a reason. He’s more of the same, and regardless of the lies perpetrated by the GOP and its kool-aid drinkers like you, people are figuring it out.
By dang y'all
September 3, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this
The Republican convention has gone ghetto, y’all…a 44-year-old grandmother as vice prez?
By NotUnderstanding
September 3, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
A lady raises a family and then runs a state as Governor and all you liberals get your daipers in a wad? Let me see…first Black Sec of Defense; Colin Powell under Bush; first Black Sec of State Colin Powell again. First woman VP; Republicans. You liberals have been had by the Democrats! But you just keep on smiling. Now just who are the Uncle Tom’s???
By msutie78
September 3, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Way to go Gov. Palin - drag the baby’s dad into the mix to further your own agenda and career - what a GREAT example you are for our nation!
By msutie78
September 3, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Way to go Gov. Palin - drag the baby’s dad into the mix to further your own agenda and career - what a GREAT example you are for our nation!
By Fred Flintstone
September 3, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
Country First?
If this was one of Obama’s daughters turning up pregnant I wonder how the “forgiving” Mr Wooten and his “Common Sense Conservatives” would retell the story?
Palin being one step from the presidency is a cruel joke on the United States that would have tragic results on the international stage.
McCain made a poor decision
Judgement to lead?
By sharon
September 3, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
My3kids if you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you. Peadawg newsflash: you are still a baby mama even if you know who the daddy is. Don’t try to glamorize the situation.
By Terry
September 3, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
What I find interesting is the immediate acceptance of this matter by the political and religious right. If you are in this group it is no big deal, but if you are not, look out, you will be judged harshly by this group. Sure forgive this act, but the forgiveness appears to be selective based on politics not on religion, as we have seen many times in the past.
Furthermore, selecting this person as a running mate says a lot about the lack of judgment of John McSame. And all those that say “Great choice”, are simply the same sheep who are and have been afraid to say “The emperor wears no clothes”.
By bearcasey
September 3, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
All this proves is that teen daughters of conservative politicians have sex (stupidly) just like everyone else.
What’s the Vegas “over-under” line on how long Bristol’s marriage will last? I want to get my bet in.
I would never have made these comments if the Republican hypocritical evangelicals weren’t always trying to tell the rest of us how to live.
I wonder what the “big invisible guy in the sky” thinks? Is stoniong legal iinn Alaska?
By Not Again
September 3, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this
@ Peadawg, sweetie its still a baby’s daddy unless you are married at the time of conception. It doesn’t matter if there is one child or ten. A lot of girls/women know who there baby daddy is, its just that after the baby is born or a year or so after they wished they didn’t. Its a big price to pay for a lesson not so well learned.
I hope they are getting married becasue they “think” they love each other. Being 17 in this day in time you always think you are in love. I hope this marriage is not just to save face for mom. I know it is suppose to be the proper thing to do but, most times than not it ends in divorce and they still become baby momma’s and bady daddies to each other.
By Just Asking
September 3, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
I wonder why Mr. Wooten does not mention that “the establishment” Gov. Palin took on was the state GOP.
Gee, maybe it’s because most folks who are following this story already know that. Doesn’t that bolster Palin’s credentials? Plus, the article’s focus wasn’t on her taking on the establishment.
My question remains: what is a community organizer and what job skills are directly transferable to the presidency? How does being a community organizer enable a president to understand a market economy? Or foreign policy? The communities I’ve lived in didn’t have community organizers: Were we disorganized? How did we survive? Where does one train to become a community organizer? Is there a certification for community organizers? Is there a trade group? Do all community organizers support a Cuba-style economy, or just Senator Obama?
I’m Just Asking.
By Churchill
September 3, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
Here is why foxnews, and their conservative supporters, are so sad:
“On the pinhead front, 16-year-old Jamie Lynn Spears is pregnant. The sister of Britney says she is shocked. I bet.
Now most teens are pinheads in some ways. But here the blame falls primarily on the parents of the girl, who obviously have little control over her or even over Britney Spears. Look at the way she behaves.”
Thanks Bill O’Reilly. You can read this at: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317577,00.html
Let’s see what Rush Limbaugh had to say: (http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2007/12/spears-pregnancy-news-annoys-talk.html)
“CALLER: Would you tend to think that a family in this position, though, wouldn’t you think that there would be a more watchful eye as a parent to be watching over these kids so this doesn’t happen to them?
RUSH: I would certainly hope so, but it’s long past time for this to happen. The parents here are the culprits!
CALLER: (chuckles)
RUSH: I mean, the parents, they’re infected with this disease, this addiction to fame themselves. Look at Britney’s mom, for crying out loud. “Put me on TV, too! Put me on TV!” You know, celebrity parents, they can go both ways, and some of them lose whatever grounding they had as adults when their kids get famous. They want to be part of it. They like the money themselves. It’s very rare to have celebrity parents that remain grounded, but who’s going to get this family in line?”
By Jay Black
September 3, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
Good point Conservative Voter.
By Fred Flintstone
September 3, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this
Country First?
If this was one of Obama’s daughters turning up pregnant I wonder how the “forgiving” Mr Wooten and his “Common Sense Conservatives” would retell the story?
Palin being one step from the presidency is a cruel joke on the United States that would have tragic results on the international stage.
McCain made a poor decision
Judgement to lead?
By Dutchman
September 3, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
Copyleft,
Yes, isn’t it refreshing that someone is comfortable with them self and not trying to hide behind some elitist wall.
Some one who know who and what they are is far better than some balthering, eco-friendly, tree hugging, loony toon from mid-town that changes who they are to fit someone else’s ideal.
Sounds like the kid with be alright. He must have some feelings for her if he is willing to put up with the crap the media and the lefties will be throwing at him.
By CJ
September 3, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this
The Republicans are parading around the 17 year old and her boyfriend, neither of whom have a real job or college education, as if they were heros! If it were not for the baby’s grandparents, it would come into a household with many disadvantages - all of which could have been avoided by waiting and using protection! The two are getting married because of her mother’s political career - not for any other reason.
By Hey Jim
September 3, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this
What was so great about her first speech again? I guess she is a few steps up from McCain, but all I heard was HOPE, CHANGE, and REFORM. No substance or specifics!?!?
Are you getting emotional on us Jim?
By Peter
September 3, 2008 8:59 AM | Link to this
Talk about all the Hypocrisy……..
A couple of kids, probably under age drinking had sex, who knows how many times, and now they are becoming the poster children…. for all YOUNG KIDS to have SEX and get married………
Lets show case two kids who has had Premarital sex on TV !
Gee Jim is this what the “Republican Family Values” are all about ?
SO I guess the lesson here for ALL young REPUBLICAN kids is…….. JUST Say No to Abstinence ……..the Republicans say so !
The NEW “Republican Family Value” !
Also a very interesting thought……what if something happens to any of her kids, this lady is in office, and there is a national crises, or she is around the globe on US business ?
What are her choices….. she take time off to take care of kids……… act as a leader in a real way………. OR falls apart as she is pulled in so many directions…….. while her family suffers the MOST !
By Get Real
September 3, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
The utter hypocrisy of Wooten and the Republican Party. Who exactly was the ‘establishment’ that Palin took on in Alaska? Think it happened to be the Republican Party? Law & Order man and Leiberman left that out last night in their speeches. And Leiberman had the nerve to say Obama wasn’t ready for President, but literally begged Obama to campaign for him when he was running for his Senate seat. He was good enough then though right. Google some of the statements he had for Obama then, compared the ones he’s saying now.
And if families are off limits and the media is making this into a big story, why bring the baby’s daddy to the convention? Plenty of teens ‘talk’ about marrying their first boyfriend/girlfriend but how many actually do it? Wooten should be ashamed of himself for he has persecuted poor minority mothers for having kids out of wedlock for years. But this must be a special case as we can see.
By haha
September 3, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
thank you not again! I couldn’t have said it better. He is a “baby daddy” cause the child was an obvious mistake. By the way is being 17 and getting married something the Republicans stand for? It raises the question of how are you going to push abstinence when your own children don’t believe in your message if you cant get your kids to buy it then why should we?
By Jan
September 3, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this
Shannon luckily for me, my 17 yo parents got married all those years ago. And stayed married. According to the boy’s mother they were planning to marry - with or without an election. That isn’t surprising given what we have learned about the families. They would expect the teenagers to live up to their responsibility.
By h ryder
September 3, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
The topics brought forth of late for discussion by the media have a relevance of close to nil in functioning as President or VP if one is capable of any semblance of reasoning above that ability in a rock. I know how the candidates have related to other people in the past. How and what are they going to attempt to place into administrative governing policies if elected? The vast majority of the audio and visual media presentations are that of Phd, piled higher and deeper!
By dittohead
September 3, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
Now we see why lots of good people stay out of politics....If you are a reformer, like Palin, you will make enemies...the loudest enemy is the Medis. They insist on being consulted...The Media insist on being part of the decision process...Media has lost all credibility..By JeremiahWright
September 3, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Looks at all the crazy lefties on this blog, beside themselves with worry. Spreading more lies and propaganda from from moveon and dailykos. It’s pathetic, and it’s the reason Dems should never come to power again.
By lla
September 3, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
This is only getting attention now that suburban whites rich kids are becoming pregnant more often. However it’s considered an epidemic when young black teens have babies. Now society seems to accept it since white kids are getting married to their baby’s father. Let’s see how Bill O’Reilly puts a spend on this one.
By GaLiberal
September 3, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
Moron Jim said: Governor Palin was spectacular on the day she was introduced to the nation as John McCain’s vice presidential nomination. She was confident and comfortable before what may have been the largest audience she had ever addressed. She easily passed the first major test.
First major test? You mean being surrounded by the Rethuglicon faithful who applauded like trained seals? Real challenge there, Moron Jim. The tests are coming and they will only get tougher as she exposes all her inexperience and lack of character to the world. If she can’t even manage her 17 yo daughter how is she going to manage the country? Maybe she was too busy sticking her nose so far up McCain’s wrinkled butt to notice that her daughter was sexually active. If she was a good parent, she would have got her daughter birth control pills. Oh, but what would be like saying it’s ok to have sex. Well, guess what - she already was and now she’s pregnant. But that’s ok because she’s going to keep the baby and two 17 yo children are being forced to get married.
If this was Obama’s 17 yo daughter, you and your slimy Rethuglicon pals would be all outraged. Just another example of the overly permissive, morally decadent Democrats. Just another black child having babies. Just another black man running out on his responsibilities to the children he fathers. But not if it’s a good Rethuglicon white girl who’s mommy is the pick for VP. Typical Rethuglicon hypocrisy.
When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Moron Jim is living proof.
By Shar
September 3, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this
We don’t know what Bristol Palin wants. She’s seventeen; even she doesn’t know what she wants from one day to the next. What we do know is that she’s behind in school, sexually active, “farmed out” (the Palin word, not mine) to relatives to raise and about to compound these pitiful choices with what Mr. Wooten likes to think is a lifetime commitment, but which the odds favor dissolving within a couple of years. Any parent who would allow, much less pressure, their vulnerable, confused, wrongly-directed child to marry just to satisfy their own ideology is despicable.
John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin has convinced me not to vote for him. Obama is not an attractive choice, so I’m looking again at the Libertarian candidate. There is a good chance that McCain wouldn’t survive four years of the stress of the White House, and no one can imagine that Sarah Palin is in any way competent to run the country. He chose her to appease the far right of his party, the same folks who have undermined him repeatedly, not to ensure that the country is protected in the event of the death of the president. He chose her to syphon off the simmering Hillary supporters, clearly thinking that women candidates are interchangeable and women voters are too emotionally driven to notice that the policies of one are diametrically opposed to the policies of the other. He chose an untried ideologue, a chief executive with dancing dark eyes from the country’s biggest welfare state who has a lamentable past history of trying to force by fiat what she can’t or won’t gain by negotiation or compromise. Her educational background, political experience, previous job experience are all inadequate; her ethics are under investigation, and her “family values” stance, the area that she is publicly claiming as her strength, is highly questoinable at best.
John McCain, denied his first, responsible choice of Joe Lieberman by self-interested political calculation, chose a vice president on a whim, failing utterly to reflect or investigate before setting up the country for the disaster a Palin presidency would bring. I used to respect and admire the man; now I am saddened by the example he sets of the depths to which rampant political ambition will drive even a strong, well-meaning person.
By Debra
September 3, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this
Has anyone seen the pictures of her daughter on Mediatakeout.com where she pictured throwing up gang signs (if she were black) that’s what the republians would say and bottles of booze in her hand? Wonder why these pictures haven’t hit Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, etc. Funny how that everytime Obama went to church, it was documented. Oh yeah, and the baby’s daddy said on his myspace page that he didn’t want any kids, but once again, the myspace page has been pulled.
By bj
September 3, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this
Who said the kids were being forced to get married? In most states if you are eighteen you don’t need permission to get married. If this so much about Palin’s political career she could have “forced” her daughter to get a abortion, right?
I am a black female from Chicago and don’t forget that Obama is under scrutiny for his land deal with Tony Rezko but we don’t want to think about that.
By doorknob
September 3, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
Gov. Palin of the SOCIALIST REPUBLIK OF ALASKA want’s to get here kids involved in national politics, what a great civics lesson them. We down here in the lower 48 need to teach the Palin family about hard work and self reliance. For every dollar that the SOCIALIST in ALASKA send to the Federal goverment, they receive approximately $1.87 back in the form of big government federal spending, thats almost 2:1. I hope she was a good governor because she sure does like spending our money.
By question
September 3, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
Who led the McCain veep search committee, Jamie Lynn Spears?
By Dutchman
September 3, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
Peter,
You’re right. Sarah and Todd should have thrown her butt out of the house for doing that to them. They should have had the intelligence of a leftie to get rid of that inconvenient little problem by dumping their daughter on the street.
But wait… What happened… They showed family values instead. The daughter told her mother and father instead of having a school sponsored abortion.
Wait… even more… The father of the baby isn’t running to another state… He actually admits his involvement and is going to do the right - I mean correct thing. He is actually daring to take responsibility for his actions - where did he learn that?
Yes, Bristol messed up, but her family stood by her. The father of the child is standing by her. I guess thats what they mean by family values.
By ghostwriter
September 3, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
I guess NRA stands for No Reproductive Advice.
By Tomhere
September 3, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
What about ABSTAINANCE ONLY? Who gutted SEX EDUCATION from our schools? It would be one thing if these “FUNDAMENTALISTS” minded their own business and quit trying to tell the rest of us how to live our lives. OR - If they quit trying to shove THEIR beliefs down OUR throats - AT THE GOVERNMENT LEVEL. We don’t need YOU AND YOUR GOD making our laws. AMERICA DOESN’T WORK LIKE THAT. PEOPLE DIED TO MAKE THIS NATION THAT WAY. Think about it.
By Stoned Mountain
September 3, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
By jm September 3, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this I wonder why Mr. Wooten does not mention that “the establishment” Gov. Palin took on was the state GOP.
Good point, jm. Saying Palin took on the state Republican Party is like saying the company ceo took on the hr department. The governor heads her state party.
By Hey Jim!
September 3, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
I feel for that young boy and girl now that his life is in the hands of Karl Rove and the like. Teenagers ‘want’ to get laid, not married.
By me
September 3, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
GET A LIFE!!!!!
By Tuffy, the Airborne Soldier
September 3, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
Good Lord. This is what the GOP has to offer to the country?? A feeble old man with more changes in message than that of a runway model? This is particularly of note:
“They share the sentiment expressed by former U.S. Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee — “what a breath of fresh air Gov. Sarah Palin is” — and they’re ready to showcase her to the rest of the country.”
Where the hell have you people been over the last 8 years? The country is in the toilet. We’ve used up any political clout that we once had and our financial standing is about as good as healthy pile of donkey dung. Courtesy of the party that brought you Dubya and Cheney and you offer this ticket as a “breath of fresh air?” A post maverick who is neither on message or capable of handling the finite details of the country’s business without inserting war and a VP candidate that started off lying about her family values, no foreign experience from the frozen tundra. The audacity of the GOP in saying that her foreign policy knowledge is related to the proximity of Siberia to Alaska or that she served as a Commander in Chief to the Alaska National Guard. Obviously the GOP surrogate that stated that never served a day in the military. Once the NG is called to active duty, they are under the command of the sitting president, not the damned Governor.
And the lies from the GOP podium just keep on coming. I guess the world is witnessing the last gasps of the GOP as they attempt to make a good thing out of something horrible. The VP is in Georgia (how convienent). Fred Thompson who was a candidate aganist McCain for 30 seconds, and the absolute nerve of LIEbermann to call for “national unity” to elect a man whose judgement is clearly in question to lead this wounded nation forward. It’s an outlandish and completely ridiculous notion to even conceive given the factual evidence to date, YET, to even have the gall to suggest this to the American electorate is repulsive.
The desparation is clear, the incompetence bared to the world. I am many millions of other Americans are not lining up for the party of EXCLUSION, CORRUPTION, AND DESTRUCTION any longer.
GO OBAMA/BIDEN !!!
By Tuffy, the Airborne Soldier
September 3, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
Good Lord. This is what the GOP has to offer to the country?? A feeble old man with more changes in message than that of a runway model? This is particularly of note:
“They share the sentiment expressed by former U.S. Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee — “what a breath of fresh air Gov. Sarah Palin is” — and they’re ready to showcase her to the rest of the country.”
Where the hell have you people been over the last 8 years? The country is in the toilet. We’ve used up any political clout that we once had and our financial standing is about as good as healthy pile of donkey dung. Courtesy of the party that brought you Dubya and Cheney and you offer this ticket as a “breath of fresh air?” A post maverick who is neither on message or capable of handling the finite details of the country’s business without inserting war and a VP candidate that started off lying about her family values, no foreign experience from the frozen tundra. The audacity of the GOP in saying that her foreign policy knowledge is related to the proximity of Siberia to Alaska or that she served as a Commander in Chief to the Alaska National Guard. Obviously the GOP surrogate that stated that never served a day in the military. Once the NG is called to active duty, they are under the command of the sitting president, not the damned Governor.
And the lies from the GOP podium just keep on coming. I guess the world is witnessing the last gasps of the GOP as they attempt to make a good thing out of something horrible. The VP is in Georgia (how convienent). Fred Thompson who was a candidate aganist McCain for 30 seconds, and the absolute nerve of LIEbermann to call for “national unity” to elect a man whose judgement is clearly in question to lead this wounded nation forward. It’s an outlandish and completely ridiculous notion to even conceive given the factual evidence to date, YET, to even have the gall to suggest this to the American electorate is repulsive.
The desparation is clear, the incompetence bared to the world. I am many millions of other Americans are not lining up for the party of EXCLUSION, CORRUPTION, AND DESTRUCTION any longer.
GO OBAMA/BIDEN !!!
By me
September 3, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
GET A LIFE!!!!!
By hypocrisy
September 3, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
Please don’t try to throw this back on Obama. He already answered the question about his experience, now it’s time for her to answer hers. Quit whining. It’s only fair.
By marko
September 3, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
I have nothing negative to say about Sara Palin, but I really can’t relate to her. Most Americans live in large cities and towns, while the red states can boast vast acreage, the truth is most people live in blue states. Sorry Jim, but your main man does’nt know how many houses he owns, and his number two is an expert moose skinner. The two are shinning examples of just how far your party has departed from a little place I like to call reality.
By dittohead
September 3, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
d. The MEDIA focus on the daughter is a deliberate political attack on the governor…The MEDIA is full of sharks after Repub blood…They went after Hillary…..now they smell Palin’s blood…Search & destroy….Media goal.
By DB
September 3, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
Apparently, Levi is already a member of the family as it is. Given Palin’s family ties, it could be that she is just being generous and bringing him into the family fold to share what is a historic moment with her daughter/his fiance’.
This is why good candidates often shy far away from politics — not too many families could stand up to the scrutiny of a press and public determined to find something wrong with you.
The saddest thing, though, is the thought that perhaps Palin should dump the V.P. race and “stay at home with Bristol.” I daresay she has a perfectly competent husband, but I don’t see anyone suggesting that the husband deal with this while Palin takes on the challenge of the V.P. race — like thousands of political wives have done for centuries.
I daresay that “Girls Gone Wild” could have a field day if they scratched below the surface of the families of just about any other government-service family, from Senators — Democrat OR Republican — on down.
By M
September 3, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Does it occur to anyone that the person wanting Levi at the convention may be Bristol, who may be feeling worried and scared with all the scorn and hatred directed at her and her family?
By tcoach
September 3, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Why are all of the lefties continuing to say that the only reason they are getting married is b/c of Gov. Palin? Are you close personal friends of teh family or are you just guessing? From many accounts and reports the two have been engaged for over a month prior to the story breaking. The daughter has been seen in photos dating back to late July wearing an engagment ring. Also 1st hand accounts have spoke about how the 2 parents to be have talked about getting married anyway before any of the baby issue came up. I understand that you want to win the election and I hope my candidate wins, but you all have to understand that if you attack the girl and boy you cannot call someone else a hypocrite. You leties talk consistantly about how we should not judge and talk poorly about those who make poor decisions, and on and on. I do not condone the act of the 2 teens however, they are planning on forming the nuclear family so as to give their child teh best possible chance to succeed. Also I do not think the marriage is doomed for divorce, when people used to get married younger the divorce rate was lower, that is a statistical fact. It was only that the individual selfishness of our citizens that casued the divorce rate to climb to half. That and the stripping away of peoples ability to make their word mean something. Sorry for the long post
By tiff
September 3, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
Wooten, you will sprinkle sugar on s#!+ to make it look good, if it were a republicans s#!+. If this were one of the Obama kids, you would hang them out to dry in a field of locust. Hipocracy has no place in this world. But for people like you it’s a way of life. The funniest thing in this whole situation is, no one knew this lady from Joe Blow less that a week ago. Not even our esteened governor or Newt Gingrich could tell you anything about her, now all of a sudden she is the best pick for VP, and every republicant in the country is singing her praises. Give me a break. Fred Thompson had to get drunk last night just to be able to read all those lies from that teleprompter, because he sure a heck was not speaking from any knowledge he has about her. Even my young niece said “auntie is it me or does it sound like he’s giving a eulogy for someone”. When he talked about McCain there was no life, no energy, nothing but misery in his whole speech. If elected thats what McCain will bring to this whole country more of George Bush’s misery. I mean any one who would pick a woman to draw the other candidates women votes tells me McCain party has nothing of their own, he can only try and steal what Barack has. Why don’t he run on what he plans to do for the country, and not how he can copy Barack. Barack Obama is the real deal. He proved that the other night with that speech about the direction he wants to take this country. When I saw those republicans forcing themselves to even clap last night, and showing no interest in what was going on I almost felt sorry for them. “NOT”. And then it seemed to me that most of them had that just point me to the nearest bar look on their faces. Even papa Bush looked as if he had been forced to come there. McCain’s whole candidacy has been based on the fact that he was a prisoner of war. As if we owe him this because he was locked up. Someone please tell me what experience being a prisoner gives you for being president of the United States. They say it makes for bravery, I say heck i’m brave most of the people I know are brave, but I would not vote to put me or anyone I know in the white house just because I feel we are brave.
By ron
September 3, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
Good morning,I don’t think I’d have left Levi home.He’s going to be part of the family and as such he needs to be at the convention.To exclude him would signal nonapproval.
I believe the problem that everyone is having is they’re not used to having real people around during election time.All politicians tell you that they’re just like you and now you actually see one that is and you’re all shocked.I think a lot of you expect more from your politicians in the way morals than you expect from yourselves.
By Huh?
September 3, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
If he was truly a fiance and a part of the family from the get-go, Levi would have been with the family at all her major public appearances where the family was. Sarah Palin is the freakin VP nominee. That’s kinda big.
If Bristol had be 25 and engaged (and not pregnant) everyone would expect her fiance to make all the photo appearances!
The reason why folks like Wooten are uneasy is because they know this whole thing is a sham. And it’s offensive how the Republican party thinks we are all too stupid to see the truth.
By Davo
September 3, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
I have to congradulate Jim on using rational thought…”But to this PR amateur, it looks like a bad call.”
On the one hand the McCain campaign says ‘don’t make this the topic of conversation…respect their privacy’. Fair enough. But now they trot this kid and their pregnant girl out into a national audience..to prove what, exactly?
Pretty low life move worthy of a disgraced celebrity, not a VP.
By TW
September 3, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
Are Levi and Daddy Yankee really going to rap McSame’s introduction?
From 91% approval rating to laughing stock.
It’s over. It’s soooooo over.
By belinda
September 3, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
jim, you are not very bright! of course the republicans want the boy to be in the spotlight because that takes the attention off their inexperienced vp candidate! go obama!
By M
September 3, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
Does it occur to anyone that the person wanting Levi at the convention may be Bristol, who is probably worried and scared by all the vicious scorn and hatred directed at her and her family?
By candide
September 3, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
They are going to make that randy boy marry Bristol Palin whether he wants to or not. The marriage will probably not last but Sarah will be passed all that.
By tiff
September 3, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
This boy went from boyfriend to fiance in one day. The day of her nomination. Also true they took down his myspace page because he posted the truth about how he feels about this whole situation. I wish you all could have read the vulgar language he put on his page. And the out cry about not wanting children. Talk about a shot-gun wedding these hillbillies know how to make the best of a bad situation don’t they WOOTEN.
By Lauren
September 3, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
These people are pathetic and this convention is an embarrassment. Republicans you should be hanging your heads not beating your drums. The rest of the nation is LAUGHING at you.
By Dutchman
September 3, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
hypocrisy,
BHO did explain his experience??? What, hiring someone to run his campaign? The Chicago political machine? What the heck is a community organizer? Three whole years in the Senate and half on the campaign trail?
Seems his resume is 1/2 page and double spaced.
Isn’t it a little odd that the lefties are pointing fingers at the VP nominees supposed lack of experience when their Presidential candidate has even less.
You would think that the person at the TOP of the ticket would need the experience of having run, governed, commanded or lead something.
Which has BHO done? …
By Copyleft
September 3, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
Dutchman: Keep going with that “proud to be ignorant” attitude, and see how eagerly America embraces it as President Obama is sworn in.
By GaLiberal
September 3, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
Moron Jim said: Governor Palin was spectacular on the day she was introduced to the nation as John McCain’s vice presidential nomination. She was confident and comfortable before what may have been the largest audience she had ever addressed. She easily passed the first major test.
First major test? You mean being surrounded by the Rethuglicon faithful who applauded like trained seals? Real challenge there, Moron Jim. The tests are coming and they will only get tougher as she exposes all her inexperience and lack of character to the world. If she can’t even manage her 17 yo daughter how is she going to manage the country? Maybe she was too busy sticking her nose so far up McCain’s wrinkled butt to notice that her daughter was sexually active. If she was a good parent, she would have got her daughter birth control pills. Oh, but what would be like saying it’s ok to have sex. Well, guess what - she already was and now she’s pregnant. But that’s ok because she’s going to keep the baby and two 17 yo children are being forced to get married.
If this was Obama’s 17 yo daughter, you and your slimy Rethuglicon pals would be all outraged. Just another example of the overly permissive, morally decadent Democrats. Just another black child having babies. Just another black man running out on his responsibilities to the children he fathers. But not if it’s a good Rethuglicon white girl who’s mommy is the pick for VP. Typical Rethuglicon hypocrisy.
When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Moron Jim is living proof.
By Worried Voter
September 3, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
Palin: average isn’t good enough
She’s not qualified to be president, and in picking her, McCain shows that he has little respect for the presidency.
By Sam Harris for Los Angeles Times
So let us ask the question that should be on the mind of every thinking person in the world at this moment: If John McCain becomes the 44th president of the United States, what are the odds that a blood clot or falling object will make Sarah Palin the 45th?
The actuarial tables on the Social Security Administration website suggest that there is a better than 10% chance that McCain will die during his first term in office. Needless to say, the Reaper’s scything only grows more insistent thereafter. Should President McCain survive his first term and get elected to a second, there is a 27% chance that Palin will become the first female U.S. president by 2015. If we take into account McCain’s medical history and the pressures of the presidency, the odds probably increase considerably that this bright-eyed Alaskan will become the most powerful woman in history.
As many people have noted, placing Palin on the ticket has made these final months of the already overlong 2008 campaign much more interesting. Is Palin remotely qualified to be president of the United States? No. But that’s precisely what is so interesting. McCain not only has thrown all sensible concerns about good governance aside merely to pander to a sliver of female and masses of conservative Christian voters, he has turned this period of American history into an episode of high-stakes reality television: Don’t look now, but our cousin Sarah just became leader of the free world! Tune in next week and watch her get sassy with Pakistan!
Americans have an unhealthy desire to see average people promoted to positions of great authority. No one wants an average neurosurgeon or even an average carpenter, but when it comes time to vest a man or woman with more power and responsibility than any person has held in human history, Americans say they want a regular guy, someone just like themselves. President Bush kept his edge on the “Who would you like to have a beer with?” poll question in 2004, and won reelection.
This is one of the many points at which narcissism becomes indistinguishable from masochism. Let me put it plainly: If you want someone just like you to be president of the United States, or even vice president, you deserve whatever dysfunctional society you get. You deserve to be poor, to see the environment despoiled, to watch your children receive a fourth-rate education and to suffer as this country wages — and loses — both necessary and unnecessary wars.
McCain has so little respect for the presidency of the United States that he is willing to put the girl next door (soon, too, to be a grandma) into office beside him. He has so little respect for the average American voter that he thinks this reckless and cynical ploy will work.
And it might. Palin’s nomination has clearly excited Christian conservatives, and it may entice a few million gender-obsessed fans of Hillary Clinton to vote entirely on the basis of chromosomes. Throw in a few million more average Americans who will just love how the nice lady smiles, and 2009 could be a very interesting year.
Tune in next week and watch cousin Sarah fuss with our nuclear arsenal … .
By CommunistAJC
September 3, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
Copyleft, Your homeboy Obama Hussein is actually an idiot. As was your other homeslice John F Kerry. He had worse grades than W and so did AlGore. Here is a nice little article I found just for you.
Obama’s Years at Columbia Are a Mystery He Graduated Without Honors
By ROSS GOLDBERG,
Senator Obama’s life story, from his humble roots, to his rise to Harvard Law School, to his passion as a community organizer in Chicago, has been at the center of his presidential campaign. But one chapter of the tale remains a blank — his education at Columbia College, a place he rarely speaks about and where few people seem to remember him.
Contributing to the mystery is the fact that nobody knows just how well Mr. Obama, unlike Senator McCain and most other major candidates for the past two elections, performed as a student.
The Obama campaign has refused to release his college transcript, despite an academic career that led him to Harvard Law School and, later, to a lecturing position at the University of Chicago. The shroud surrounding his experience at Columbia contrasts with that of other major party nominees since 2000, all whom have eventually released information about their college performance or seen it leaked to the public.
For better or worse, voters have taken an interest in candidates’ grades since 1999, when the New Yorker published President Bush’s transcript at Yale and disclosed that he was a C student. Mr. Bush had never portrayed himself as a brain, but many were surprised to learn the next year that his opponent, Vice President Gore, did not do much better at Harvard despite his intellectual image. When Senator Kerry’s transcript surfaced, reporters found that he actually had a slightly lower average at Yale than Mr. Bush did.
Some political observers cite such disclosures as proof that candidates’ intelligence cannot be judged solely by their political careers or the schools they attended. Grades provide a rare measure of intellect that is immune to political spin, proponents say.
“We like to pretend IQ doesn’t matter, but it really does with a lot of jobs, including the presidency,” a professor at Smith College who studies the effects of human intelligence on the economy, James Miller, said. “We can’t trust the information that candidates give us, so it’s important to look for objective data that they can’t falsify or distort.”
Mr. Miller acknowledged that Mr. Obama displayed academic achievement at Harvard, where he graduated magna cum laude and led the Harvard Law Review. Still, Mr. Miller said, he would like to see information about how Mr. Obama performed in various subjects at Columbia.
That view is not shared by other election observers, including some who have themselves indulged the public’s interest in candidates’ academic records. One of them is Geoffrey Kabaservice, a political historian who in 2000 published Senator Bradley’s relatively low score of 485 on the verbal SAT. Mr. Bradley, a Rhodes Scholar who was a star basketball player at Princeton, was running for the Democratic presidential nomination.
“It’s awfully hard to correlate anything, really, about a person on the basis of their grades,” Mr. Kabaservice said, explaining that he published Mr. Bradley’s score to highlight limitations in intelligence testing. He said he doubted that candidates’ grades have affected the outcome of any recent presidential elections.
“For people who didn’t like George W. Bush, for example, the grade aspect only confirmed what they thought about him,” Mr. Kabaservice said. “And for everybody else, it made him more of a regular guy.”
The Obama campaign declined to comment for this article and did not offer an explanation for why his transcript has not been released. But observers speculated that one reason might be the racially charged nature of the election. Mr. Obama has acknowledged benefiting from affirmative action in the past, and details about his academic performance might open him up to critics eager to accuse him, probably unfairly, of receiving a free ride, Mr. Kabaservice said.
“Anyone who is a minority and who’s come up partially through the meritocracy — getting into good colleges, and subsequently good law schools — is going to come under suspicion that there was some kind of affirmative action boost,” he said. “I suspect this is an area of discomfort for Obama.”
In contrast with the rest of Mr. Obama’s life story, little is known about his college experience. He attended Occidental College in Los Angeles for two years before transferring to Columbia in 1981. The move receives only a mention in Mr. Obama’s 1995 memoir, “Dreams from My Father,” which instead devotes that chapter to his impressions of race and class struggles in New York.
An article in a Columbia University publication, Columbia College Today, reported that Mr. Obama has portrayed Columbia as a period of buckling down following a troubled adolescence. He did not socialize much, he has said, instead spending a lot of time in the library, “like a monk.” He has also stated that he was involved to some extent with the Black Students Organization.
Federal law limits the information that Columbia can release about Mr. Obama’s time there. A spokesman for the university, Brian Connolly, confirmed that Mr. Obama spent two years at Columbia College and graduated in 1983 with a major in political science. He did not receive honors, Mr. Connolly said, though specific information on his grades is sealed. A program from the 1983 graduation ceremony lists him as a graduate.
More is known about Mr. McCain’s experience at the United States Naval Academy, where he was a self-described troublemaker and graduated in the bottom 1% of his class. The McCain campaign has declined to release his transcript, saying that his performance at the academy can only be viewed in the context of his larger military career.
“His record stands on its own,” a McCain spokesman, Peter Feldman, said. “His time spent in college was part of the transformative years that made him who he was.”
By travis
September 3, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
MCSAME/FAILIN ‘08!!
By GMAN
September 3, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
The choice is clear…
An old dufus fart and an ambitious tart
OR
Obama/Biden - a LANDSLIDE for change in November”!
By Hyde Park
September 3, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
BJ @ 9:13, keep it real. I’m a black man from Chicago, and you KNOW that rezko has already been convicted and Obama never entered the matter. The Chicago media has moved on from the subject, yet bitter people like you need something talk about. You can’t be serious spreading lies like that. But since you said that, please present a link with proof of your BS.
By charles corley
September 3, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
Goooooooooood morning / I ask my old man where I was born and he said Wedlock, Texas and then he said well not really, just outside of Wedlock. As for McCain he was trying to get out of the Navy when he was shot down. The enemy had started shooting back. Can you imagine how many women and children he set on fire. Burned.The worst kind of pain. When he returned to the United States his father who was the Admiral of the seventh fleet didn’t meet him and later committed suicide. When he returned he junked his wife and went for the Budweiser $$$$$$$$. God’s justice is always perfect, if you plant beans you get beans and if you plant corn you get corn and God is watching what you plant so it will be interesting to see how little John finishes.
By Bonedaddy
September 3, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
You knuckleheads fail to relaize Osama Obama’s mom had him at 18, then the dude ran off. BFD. I am not voting for Palin’s daughter anyway idiots. I will vote for McCain/Palin for sure now.
By Whiteman Sayeth
September 3, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Gee, I guess abstinence only really doesn’t work after all.
By Truthifier
September 3, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
CommunistAJC at 10:02, fair enough, let’s try to find Senator Obama’s grades from Columbia. However, in the meantime, let’s also acknowledge that he graduated MAGNA CUM LAUDE from Harvard Law (that’s really, really good for those of you who may be confused). My guess is that his grades at Columbia were better than McCain’s at the Naval Academy, since a student with poor grades is not likely to be accepted to Harvard Law School.
By Copyleft
September 3, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
Commie:
Hee, hee! Thanks for shooting yourself in the foot AGAIN with that one—your own copy/pasted article discredits you!
Yeah, calling Obama an “idiot” after he graduated magna cum laude at Harvard really works. Good call!
And then noting that McLame was at the BOTTOM of his Naval Academy class—again from your own article! Oh, this is rich.
You right-wingers really are scraping the bottom of the barrel as your betters sail effortlessly past you, aren’t you? No surprise; after all, the right ran out of ideas long ago.
(snicker)
By Kris
September 3, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
If Obama had a BLACK, pregnant 17-year- old daughter, the social conservatives and Christian conservatives which make up the Republican party would have been extremely critical and judgemental. But because this girl is white Christian republican it’s all good, and we should leave the whole issue alone. PersonallY I agree it is not an issue, but my problem is how hypocritical these conservatives are.
By Truthifier
September 3, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Dutchman, it’s really a chicken or the egg argument isn’t it? You say Obama supporters can’t criticize Palin’s experience, or lack thereof. However, the McCain campaign has, prior to naming Ms. Palin as the VP nominee, been on a tear saying that Obama isn’t experienced enough. From my point of view, the GOP let this one out of the bag when they went after Obama and can’t complain now that it’s being turned back on them.
By Clint
September 3, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this
I agree Jim. This seems vulgar.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
September 3, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
Good morning. I write without benefit of knowing anything about the prospective husband of Bristol Palin, or at least nothing beyond Jim’s morning essay. My guess is that bringing the young fellow to Minneapolis is a page out of Oprah’s book, to humanize the story – making lemonade out of lemons. On this one I broadly agree with Jim, seems an unnecessary step to me, but I am a thinker not a feeler. McCain needs to reach more of the middle, and that means getting more votes than those of the thinkers.
By The Principal
September 3, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Why aren’t these kids in school? Is an education not necessary to being successful in Alaska?
By CommunistAJC
September 3, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Copyleft, When you have affirmative action on your side you really don’t have to work that hard. We ran out of ideas? Really? Because your guy has not offered one new idea. Raising taxes, socialized health care, and running from terrorism in defeat is not my idea or this countries idea of new ideas. Mccain never touted his grades. Your guy does. And the country is taking notice that he none too bright. The guy can not speak on his own. He thinks there are 57 states in the union and that going to a racist church is normal. Democrat Party=Racist Morons.
Hussein/Biden=Socialist Cowards!
By Steve
September 3, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
Rest assured, they won’t be living off welfare in a housing project where the government funds were siphoned to pay off Obamas campaign supporters.
Obama should be very supportive since his supporters are all for having as many babies as you can out of wedlock before your 18 and living off the government.
By Oh Dear Lord
September 3, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
If this woman cannot manager her own children, how could she possibly manage this country? I expect more out of my leaders and all we have to go on is her record as a governor of a year and a half, mayoral record from a town of 5,000, and how she has raised her kids. And I cannot even pretend to be impressed by any of it . McCain has had cancer FOUR times, he is 72 years old, even if he makes it through four years, then what happens? This woman becomes the standard bearer for the GOP. That is just crazy.
By please
September 3, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
Wow. a politician that is truely intouch with whats really going on in our society. Ms Palin can only control so much of what her children do. Her values and parenting become apparent when a mistake is made and the child deals with it correctly. Lots of kids have sex (TOOO MANY) a lot get “caught” buts its what they do from there. Good luck Ms.Palin. I hope the country realizes we need someone that really gets whats going on.
By Michelle
September 3, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
Time and time again, we see that things are ALWAYS and FOREVER going to be different when white people do it. Plain and simple.
By OhTheDrama
September 3, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Oh but don’t you see! The RNC wants the pregnancy to remain at the forefront of discussion. That way they can paint her as the wronged victim of sexism from the “liberal mainstream media”.
I’ve noticed that the most discussion of this has come from FOX news and their guests. The other news outlets make mention of it as a major story but it’s not all they talk about all day long.
By tiff
September 3, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
My last point of the day. The Palin family have tried to convince us they are proud of their daughter because she did the right thing. Kept the baby and got engaged. If they were so proud of her why did they drape her in that big tarp and make her hold that baby across her belly the whole night, so no one could see her pregnant belly. That does not seem like pride, that seems like shame to me. Hey, how about that Biden the more he speaks the more he seems like a winner to me. Love him and his lovely family. I was watching C-Span yesterday and I heard him speak at a rally he was awesome. No wonder Obama picked him.
OBAMA/BIDEN08
By Dutchman
September 3, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Copyleft,
I really do not care how ignorant the lefties are. Mid-Town is still Mid-Town and nothing there will change.
BHO has little to no experience and McCain has abundant experience. Case Closed.
By threedeep
September 3, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
http://www.mediatakeout.com/2008/26330-explosivepicsvpcandidatepalinsdaughteriswilderthanbritneypicsofherandhergirlsgettingdrunkandkissingeachother.html Let’s see the mainstream press and sean vannity and rush “pop a pill a minute” limbaugh talk about this and family values.
By TetsuwanAtomu
September 3, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
The bigger issue IS this position that she is some sort of bulwark against special interests and the first thing she does when she is mayor is find a lawyer to procure special funds for her little town. It also seems as if she and her husband are blatant opportunists who become members of the Alaska Independent Party when it suits their interests then become Republicans again when the wind shifts that way.
By Menopausal
September 3, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
I’m a long past being a teenager, but I am certain that had I gotten into the situation the young Miss Palin has found herself in, my mother would have put me ahead of her own ambitions and stuck with me full time, not part time from the White House.
By NO HILLBILLIES
September 3, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
This woman is pure white trash. I hear the teenage daughter plans to marry the father. Well, it’s sad that her father impregnated her. But isn’t he already married?
By Oh Dear Lord
September 3, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
If this woman cannot manager her own children, how could she possibly manage this country? I expect more out of my leaders and all we have to go on is her record as a governor of a year and a half, mayoral record from a town of 5,000, and how she has raised her kids. And I cannot even pretend to be impressed by any of it . McCain has had cancer FOUR times, he is 72 years old, even if he makes it through four years, then what happens? This woman becomes the standard bearer for the GOP. That is just crazy.
By tcoach
September 3, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
2 points I would like to make
I agree that many (not all) conservatives are glossing over the teen pregnancy issue now. However for the same people to attack and say the hateful post directed at Palin’s daughter directly then calling conservatives hypocrites, obviously do not realize that they themselves are being hypocritical. If every woman should have a choice then allow Palin’s daughter to decide to get married. Unless you KNOW that her mom is making her get married then be quiet. Yes conservatives are hypocrites but so are liberals.
It is far different to be the vice president than it is to be the president. It can be made an issue that Obama lacks experience because he is running for the lead job. He WILL be president if elected, while those of you trying to scare people only think that Palin will become president. Also if God forbide something does happen to McCain, Palin will have been in office training everyday for the position of president. While Obama would be going straight into the fire. What are we to believe that Obama is going to take all the ques from his vice president until he learns the ropes. If that is the case then Biden should have been the nominee, but he could not because he is not as great a telepromter reader. I challenge anyone to explain to me how in defense of your presidential nominee being unexperienced, you accues the others Vice President of being inexperienced. That is the way it works you are vice president because you are not ready to be the president yet.
By Ryan's Nan
September 3, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
I empathize with Bristol. I was once a teenager in love and engaged to be married. We thought it would prove our love for each other if we had a baby, and got pregnant before we married. (No it did not last.) Bristol and her boyfriend may have done the same thing. Naive and dumb? Definitely. Something teenagers do? Definitely. Something the teenagers would have listed to parents about? NO
By Ray
September 3, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
How come you liberal knuckleheads get so upset about one teenage pregnancy in a white, Christian family and ignore that half or more of the entitlement voting base of the Democratic party are having children out of wedlock, mostly multiple children out of wedlock. Wouldn’t want to p* them off, now would we? Just give them a check every month….. that’ll make em’ happy.
By Oh Dear Lord
September 3, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
If this woman cannot manager her own children, how could she possibly manage this country? I expect more out of my leaders and all we have to go on is her record as a governor of a year and a half, mayoral record from a town of 5,000, and how she has raised her kids. And I cannot even pretend to be impressed by any of it . McCain has had cancer FOUR times, he is 72 years old, even if he makes it through four years, then what happens? This woman becomes the standard bearer for the GOP. That is just crazy.
By Oh Dear Lord
September 3, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
If this woman cannot manager her own children, how could she possibly manage this country? I expect more out of my leaders and all we have to go on is her record as a governor of a year and a half, mayoral record from a town of 5,000, and how she has raised her kids. And I cannot even pretend to be impressed by any of it . McCain has had cancer FOUR times, he is 72 years old, even if he makes it through four years, then what happens? This woman becomes the standard bearer for the GOP. That is just crazy.
By Captain Freedom
September 3, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
For just a moment, THE Captain wishes to forego the spectre of the happy young couple capturing the attention of the entire nation and unfairly distracting attention from Sarah Plain as she establishes her rightful place as Trophy Veep and President To Be.
Instead, THE Captain wishes to highlight yet another egregious example of the horrific bias of the MSM and their liberal hatred of Real America.
Last night, during the dazzling extravaganza in St Paul (shout out for Rachel Lampa—-woooooo!!!!), the television networks seemed to go out of their way to find the few people (out of the several hundreds gathered there) who were sleepy and bored. Was it really necessary to show us octogenarians like Wooten trying to stifle yawns during the riveting presentation of Laura Bush?
(And was it really appropriate to show Bush 41 diligently inspecting his iglets during Bush 43’s stirring remarks from his Castle? The media wants you to think that Bush 41 could not be bothered to listen to anymore of the wastrel son’s bu||shi+. Talk about distortion!!)
After all, how many yawning, sleeping, bored to tears delegates did the networks show during the Dummycrat convention? Not one, that’s how many!! And given that there were exponentially more people at that event than in Minnesota this week, you would think it would have been easy to find at least couple of doddering old pharts who were up way past their bedtime.
Even worse…last night, the MSM constantly cut away to the reaction of the same Negro couple, giving the impression that there were none other to be seen. Compare again to the coverage of the Dumbocrat party…always showing a vast sea of multi-ethnicity, giving the false impression that the Donkey party represents a wide range of so-called america. And this week, showing the same tired pair of GOP negro people, over and over, as though We do not represent All Americans, even those with an overabundance of melanin or names that are spelled funny and hard to pronounce. I fear that these good not-white persons will be dragged into the public eye again and again as the week slouches endlessly onward. How cruel.
Sadly, THE Captain can only surmise that this distortion of the GOP as a party of aging white men and their devoted stepford women will somehow be transferred to the image of St John and his ultra-hot-yet-appropriately-submissive running mate. It just ain’t fair, dammit, even if the sight of the two of them together brings to mind Anna Nicole whoozit and that ole guy she ponied to death
Finally, cannot the networks even admit to and spotlight the courage and sacrifice the brave delegates exhibited by enduring the meandering drone of the Connecticut Cr@pweasel? Sweet mercy! Talk about sacrifice! You would never see the Dimmycr@ps put up such a miserable failure of public speaking in their prime time spot. And that’s the difference between Us and them. They are afraid, and therefore worked hard to present a dazzling high-energy convention. But We of True Belief are confident that We are Right, and have no need to make much of an effort with Our convention. For God will deliver victory to us in November, with a little help from various secretaries of state and Diebold malfunctions.
THE Captain has spoken.
By NO HILLBILLIES
September 3, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
This woman is pure white trash. I hear the teenage daughter plans to marry the father. Well, it’s sad that her father impregnated her. But isn’t he already married?
By INDEPENDENT VOTER
September 3, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
Conservative Republicans last year with regards to Hillary being president: I think women are better suited to be at home than men. After all their better communicators they are the nurturing component in the family. Part of the deterioration of our society is the fact that after the women’s-lib movement, women are now working more and more outside the homes going after higher paying positions. I think it’s elitist that Clinton would say that being a stay-at-home mom is somehow not desirable…in fact to the contrary I think women who stay at home and raise their children properly are the backbone of what makes our society functional.
Reporter to conservative Republican today: Do you think it’s a good idea for any parent to take on the job of V-P of the United States when he or she has 5 children at home and an infant less than a year old…as well as a teenager who’s about to have a child herself?
Conservative Republican today: Why, that’s sexist?
By jacksmum
September 3, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
Again today??? You people need to take a break from the stone throwing and wait for the facts. Honestly, who should really care about this girl and her boyfriend…their parents. The parents seem to be willing to take this on, as do the kids. That is a family value.
Can we please start looking at the issues, not just dragging out yesterday’s postings to prove, the Blues said this so now the Reds get to (or vise versa). If you do not responsibly research for yourself the best candidates, and forget the rhetoric (on BOTH sides), you are going to be responsible for the consequences.
Stop being RED or BLUE and start being RED, WHITE AND BLUE, while it is still our privilege to do so.
By Deb
September 3, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
Why does Palin becoming a grandmother at 44 mean that the Republican convention is going “ghetto”? (dang y’all at 8:47 am)
I became a grandmother at 42 (something over which I had no control) and I’m NOT in the ghetto.
For most of us, becoming grandparents just gives us even more life experience.
By buster brown
September 3, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
NEWT GINGRICH offered up these little tid-bits on the TODAY SHOW!
“She’s the first JOURNALIST ever to be nominated”!
“And she was a sportscaster on local television….
And she has a lot of experience, for two years she’s been in charge of the Alaska National Guard.”
The jokes continue to write themselves!
By What A joke
September 3, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
The Republican Party and the Evangelical Christians are a modern day “Ku Klux Klan” group. Full of white people who hate others that are not like them!!
By Jenn
September 3, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
There is no possible way that Bristol could have a 4 month old Down Syndrome baby (or any 4 month old baby) and also be 5 months pregnant. She is not a rabbit, people!
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
Spot Light on Dirty Old Men and their Ugly Wives: The men wish they could still git it up, and the ugly wives are thankful they can’t. Ring a bell Woodenhead, McCancerFace, Saxbee, and all the rest of you half drunken repuke scum.
By ron
September 3, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
Fast forward.Let’s say,for the sake of discussion only,that McCain-Palin are successful in their bid.Does anyone want to wager a guess what some bozo will pay for pictures of this baby?Millions.These kids won’t need an education,they’ll need a good financial advisor.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
September 3, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
Dear Hypocrisy @ 9:31, “He [Obama] already answered the question about his experience, now it’s time for her to answer hers.” Clearly you know something I don’t. How did he answer it – did he admit he had none, or did he go into denial?
Dear M @ 9:38, tcoach @ 9:38 and ron @ 9:40, good arguments. You persuade me.
Dear Wringer @ 9:59, “Democrats have so little respect for the presidency of the United States that they are willing to put the boy next door into the top office. They have so little respect for the average American voter that they think this reckless and cynical ploy will work.”
Dear Truthifier @ 10:17, I think we can all agree that Mrs. Palin will need a couple of years to learn the ins and outs of foreign policy. I think we can all agree that Obama will need a couple of years to learn the ins and outs of foreign policy, the ins and outs of domestic policy, and the ins and outs of how to make an executive decision. Somehow the republican program sounds less dangerous.
By bj
September 3, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
For those who say Palin did not manage her child because her daugher is pregnant can’t be parents themselves or are in total denial. Black, White, Republican or Democrat, kids are going to be kids. Unless you are with your child 24/7 how do you not know what your kid has done? For the people who are making theses kind of statements, I hope your childeren are all grown-up and even then you don’t know what mistakes they will make. Your child is still your child whether they are 15 or 65. Unless your child is dead I would not throw that kind of stone at another parent because you don’t know what yours is doing.
By Needless
September 3, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
“The Washington Post revealed Tuesday that Alaska Governor and McCain vice presidential pick Sarah Palin, whose 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant outside wedlock, earlier this year used a line-item veto to cut $1.1 million (22%) in funding which would have at least partially benefited teen moms in need.”
A true compassionate conservative!
By threedeep
September 3, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
If Palin and the repubs do not want the media focus on their family then they need to stop parading their children (preganancy, army son, and down’s syndrome’s baby) trying to get the sypathy vote from women. We do not need sympathy in the White House. This is disgusting and pathetic pandering and if the democrats were doing this with Obama then conservative talk radio would be singing a different tune. What a bunch of hypocrites.
By Ray
September 3, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
Maybe Palin could ask Ambulance John how to handle the baby thing. He seems to have survived it pretty well.
By tcoach
September 3, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Classy no hillbillies attack and acuse the daughter of incest. You are an example for all of us to follow. I only hope one day that my son can grow up to be the person you are. It is those of your intellect and poise that we need more of. I would love to be a grown man picking out an individual teenager and saying she slept with her father. What a joke and a sad human being, just because the jobless crackheads thought it was funny this morning does not meant the rest of us want to pollute our souls with your made up fantasies
By Yellar Dog Democrat
September 3, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
This presidential campaign is the biggest joke I have ever heard. The conventions are both circuses. Ringling Bros in its day paled to these past two weeks of political surpises. And where are the family values gone? I thought the Evangelical Christians were holier than thou! Another joke folks, Stay tuned. It is gonna get really dicey!
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Maybe Bristol is just fat, and the story of the preggers is a cover up for the real baby, the Downs Syndrome kid….Bristol will have a convenient miscarrage soon….Everything else is true, except for the cover up….she was a hockey team play thing, got preggers by a random player, mommy took the kid as though it were her own preggers, and now the real story is being covered up by the repuke scum….imho.
By Southern Democrat
September 3, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
I am disappointed, like many moderates, that the completely irrelevant story regarding Governor Palin’s minor daughter and a natural disaster are affecting the Republican National Convention. I applaud the RNC on its decision to tone down the festivities until Gustav made landfall and I hope that the remaining days of the convention will allow voters to learn more about what a McCain/Palin administration will look like.
I do think that if you subtract the 10% of this country that is “yellow dog” partisan, we have, for the first time since Nixon-Kennedy (in my humble opinion), an election where each party believes in its candidate and is proud to vote for him, rather than simply voting out of sheer loathing for the opposition. I hope this signals a reduction in extreme partisanship, but this could be wishful thinking.
I remain baffled by the Palin pick and think it was one made in haste, but will wait to make my final determination. In all honesty, though, I must say it will take a lot to swing me to the McCain side after the DNC. In fact, Mrs. Southern Democrat is inclined to cast her first vote ever for a Democrat in a state-wide or national election.
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
If the Repukes want the real daddy at the convention, they will have to bring the whole hockey team, as each member has an equal chance of being the real daddy…..
By tkp
September 3, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
Too bad we’ll never know for sure how much money the future son-in-law is getting paid off to “do the right thing”. At the very least the Palin’s republican connections will insure the boy will have a six figure income coming in from day one.
By Churchill
September 3, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Guess we know who REALLY runs this country:
— Palin’s past support of Pat Buchanan’s presidential bid has made some Jewish leaders and supporters of Israel nervous. The Alaskan governor has been kept out of sight at the convention, but the Wall Street Journal noted this meeting on Tuesday:
She had private sessions with Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman and members of the pro-Israel group AIPAC, said people familiar with her schedule. An AIPAC spokesman said Gov. Palin told its members she would “work to expand and deepen the strategic partnership between the U.S. and Israel.”
By jay
September 3, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
McCain/Palins decision to bring the boyfriend to the convention shows that they will do anything to win a race. To exploit 2 teens for political gain is shameful. It again shows just how McCain is out of touch with issues that America is facing…ie…..teen pregnancy. Teen girls already have this dream of being a mother and marrying the father. The Palins are giving these young girls a false sense of hope by bringing this teen couple to the stage to exploit in front of America. This isn’t reality. Young girls watching this who already want babies cannot read into this being a political strategy. When they see the Palins daughter and the boyfriend together, they most likely will feel that their lives will turn out the same way if they have a baby. I feel the Republicans are extremely irresponsible with this message.
I would like to tell the young girls now. This isn’t reality. You rarely will find young teen parents getting married after the birth of a child. If you get pregnant, you won’t be on covers of magazines, in the newspaper, or on t.v. Keep listening to you counselors on how to avoid getting pregnant and using protection. The Palin child dodged a big bullet, and that’s AIDS by not having protective sex. BE CAREFUL YOUNG TEENS. DO NOT LOOK AT THIS STORY AS REALITY. IT’S A POLITICAL STRATEGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By jay
September 3, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
McCain/Palins decision to bring the boyfriend to the convention shows that they will do anything to win a race. To exploit 2 teens for political gain is shameful. It again shows just how McCain is out of touch with issues that America is facing…ie…..teen pregnancy. Teen girls already have this dream of being a mother and marrying the father. The Palins are giving these young girls a false sense of hope by bringing this teen couple to the stage to exploit in front of America. This isn’t reality. Young girls watching this who already want babies cannot read into this being a political strategy. When they see the Palins daughter and the boyfriend together, they most likely will feel that their lives will turn out the same way if they have a baby. I feel the Republicans are extremely irresponsible with this message.
I would like to tell the young girls now. This isn’t reality. You rarely will find young teen parents getting married after the birth of a child. If you get pregnant, you won’t be on covers of magazines, in the newspaper, or on t.v. Keep listening to you counselors on how to avoid getting pregnant and using protection. The Palin child dodged a big bullet, and that’s AIDS by not having protective sex. BE CAREFUL YOUNG TEENS. DO NOT LOOK AT THIS STORY AS REALITY. IT’S A POLITICAL STRATEGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Dusty
September 3, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
So many have stated the obvious. We want our children to be perfect. But we love them, even when they don’t meet the standards we set.
Sarah Palin knows all about that. She loves her daughter and refuses to treat her like an outcast. She loves her son with Downs Syndrome. He will not be an outcast either. A mother’s love accepts what cannot be changed and makes the best of it. She accepts her daughter’s fiance’ as he becomes part of their family. He is not a secret.
Sarah Palin also knows that it is best to face all situations with whatever strength you have. She knows that her life will be researched, recycled and riveted. She makes no counterfeit moves to hide the obvious. She is strong and her family stands with her.
This kind of character is what we need to help run our country. Strength of character and mind far exceeds any other requirements of ruling. McCain is strong and just. So is Sarah Palin. I will vote for them.
By Boots
September 3, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
The religious right continues to be schizoid in their approach to morality and family values —- condemning others for their transgressions while over-looking and minimizing the same behaviors within their own camp.
I’ve never been able to understand why or how the religious right can embrace the likes of Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh. I guess it’s easies if you close your eyes, turn your back to certain realities and throw you mind out of gear.
This campaign is about to turn ugly as the influence of Karl Rove and his ilk begin to make their presence felt.
By tcoach
September 3, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
AJC is Doomed, do you know something that we do not? How sad you must be to think that it is funny to call a 17 yr old FAT. Also were you ther how do you know that Palin’s daughter was witht the whole hockey team or is it just funny to pick on people. Do not be angry that the girls or boys in your high school showed no interest in you it was most likely because of saying things like what you have said. You are only breaking the law and commiting slander. Unless you know do not speculate, I know it makes you feel good inside and all but you are attacking a teen. I hope and pray that you one day have a daughter and I cannot wait until a parent talks about you being the one who got her pregnant and see how you feel. What a sad joke and an excuse for an adult you are. P.S. maybe in your next post you should make fun of Gov. Palin’s youngest child for having Downs Syndrome.
By Right now Left
September 3, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
If I was completely oblivious to the presidential election (living in a cave like Bin Laden) and I read this blog I would be convinced that Obama/Biden could successfully rule this Nation. You republican bloggers/supporters can’t even convince yourselves that you believe in the McCain/Palin alliance or McCain’s ability to be the President that we need right now. What about McCain/Palin’s ability to rule the Nation and get us out of the slump that Bush has put us in? I consider myself a conservative but I am not convinced by neither McCain nor Palin. And McCain’s patronizing actions of choosing a female VP simply to turn this election around in his favor was the icing on the cake.
By Vick
September 3, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
You don’t know Palin? Let’s start with the AIP — Alaskan Independence Party. Palin addressed the group via video just this year… telling them they were doing a great job.
“The founder of the Alaska Independence Party — a group that has been courted over the years by Sarah Palin, and one her husband was a member of for roughly seven years — once professed his “hatred for the American government” and cursed the American flag as a “damn flag.”
And what of her being a fiscal conservative?
“John McCain touts Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as a force in the his battle against earmarks and entrenched power brokers, but under her leadership the state this year asked for almost $300 per person in requests for pet projects from one of McCain’s top adversaries: indicted Sen. Ted Stevens.”
And we ALL know how her family operates…
Republicans need to dump this woman fast or it is all over in the fall.
By jay's mind on drugs
September 3, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
Sarah Palin six months ago left her teenage daughter alone at home with the boyfriend. She had cooked dinner, turned the lights down and left a bottle of champagne chilling in a bucket of ice before she and her husband left the young couple at home. The parents took the other kids to Bunyan’s, home of the moose burger, for dinner.
Before heading out the door, Sarah Palin said to the boyfriend, “Hey, I’m trying to get her knocked up in case John McCain picks be for veep. So, if the romantic setting doesn’t work, here’s some GHB. Make her some Nestle’s Quik and slip some in her milk … then hit that stuff. Got it? Good.”
By Captain Freedom
September 3, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this
THE Captain is most distraught and ennervated to find these photos of young Bristol Lynn Plain drinking alcohol and french kissing another young woman. Clearly there is more to this story than We of True Belief have been led to believe.
Is it possible that our Sarah Plain and Tall condones underage drinking and Sapphic grapplings of girl-on-girl lust? Is it possible that this is an exemplification of the sex education that goes on in the small town home of St John’s Trophy Veep? Young Bristol Lynn had to learn this titillating behavior somewhere, and since the school in Wasilla, AK (pop. several dozen) teaches ABSTINENCE ONLY, she could not have learned it there. Is it irresponsible to speculate that perhaps the daughter learned the arts of woman-to-woman pleasuring from her own mother? No, it is irresponsible not to. And a missed opportunity, besides.
While THE Captain holds compassion in his heart for the suffering that Sarah Plain must endure, it is in fact the tribulations of the Men that are lost in this story, and that MUST be our chief concern. For once again, the mendacity of the Eve-people is on display. First, St John himself has been betrayed by Sarah Plain herself, what with her girls gone wild approach to child rearing. Our standard bearer must now pay for the sins of a not-man person, just as Adam did 2729 years ago when God cast him out of the Garden with his pet dinosaur.
But even worse, THE Captain worries over the tender sensibilities of young Levi, an innocent young man and scholar-athlete who was clearly tempted away from the straight and narrow by this young trollop whose lust is so insatiable that she seeks to quench it with a potent mixture of tequila and carpet munchies. And now he must bear the burdens of fathering the demon spawn of this hellion, his hopes and dreams crushed forever under the weighty burden imposed by his cork-hungry girlfriend. THE Captain understands his pain, if not his quick experience of pleasure that has left him chained like an unhappy beast to this yokel Jezebel’s yolk.
So yes, THE Captain feels for all of the innocent creatures in this tale, which of course excludes the women who are tainted with the curse of EVE to begin with. But in order of deservedness, THE Captain has compassion for:
i) St John the Innocent ii) Young Levi the Handsome
Sarah Plain, the ambitious, whose refusal to heed God’s directive that women belong IN the home, not the White House, is at the root of this evil.
And surely, no sympathy need be extended to the teenaged Harlot who shall suffer the widespread shame and contumely that Good Christians reserve for females who have the temerity to explore their own sexual natures.
Now, if only Right Thinking pundits like Jim and his brethren at Fox and World Nut Daily would quit dwelling on this Springeresque abomination from the Welfare State of Alaska, We of True Belief could get on with the business of stealing this election fair and square.
By NO HILLBILLIES
September 3, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
This woman is pure white trash. I hear the teenage daughter plans to marry the father. Well, it’s sad that her father impregnated her. But isn’t he already married?
By Copyleft
September 3, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
Dusty’s reached new heights (or is that depths?) of hypocrisy.
She now applauds Palin’s “strength” and “character” in raising an unwed teenage mother!
And we all know exactly what Dusty would be screeching about if Obama had such a pregnant teen in his family—“further proof of the moral sewer that Democrats wallow in! The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree! Dems may think this kind of thing is okay, but REAL Americans blah blah blah…”
The Republicans are embarrassed and in a desperately awkward position with McLame’s new Harriet Miers nomination… and Dusty, as ever, is a reliable weathervane pointing the way to their inevitable defeat.
By Bud Wiser
September 3, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Jack Wheeler is a brilliant man who was the author of Reagan’s strategy to break the back of the Soviet Union with the star wars race and expose their inner weakness. For years he wrote a weekly intelligence update that was extremely interesting and well structured and informed. He consults(ed) with several mega corporations on global trends and the future, etc. I think he is in semi-retirement now. He is a true patriot with a no-nonsense approach to everything. He is also a somewhat well known mountain climber and adventurer.
Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler
The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.
He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.
What he isn’t, not a genetic drop of, is ‘African-American,’ the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn’t a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.
Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.
It’s something Hillary doesn’t understand - how some complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.
Thus Obama has become the white liberals’ Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being White. There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make of any kind can be effective against it. The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to worship him: Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.
Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior.
His candidacy is ridiculous and should not be taken seriously by any straight thinking American.
Dr. Jack Wheeler
By findog
September 3, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Besides the point we shouldn’t be discussing this at all why are they not getting married now instead of after the child is born. Could it be the baby daddy doesn’t have insurance and so the state provided insurance of the grandmother is going to cover the costs? I’m late today and haven’t gotten through all the posts so I hope the B-word for the child has not been mentioned by the decision to wait to marry after the birth…
By NO HILLBILLIES
September 3, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
This woman is pure white trash. I hear the teenage daughter plans to marry the father. Well, it’s sad that her father impregnated her. But isn’t he already married?
By Peter
September 3, 2008 11:38 AM | Link to this
Hey Dusty I guess it would have been WONDERFUL if one of your sons got a girl pregnant that he was Just fooling around with.
Heck a 16 year old and a 17 year old are in the Perfect place in Time to raise a family.
Great Job………We should all applaud the Republican Family Values that YOU LIBERALS are now saying is GREAT !
By DD
September 3, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
Come on McCain. I know big oil is telly you otherwise, but there’s still time to dump this trash and find you a real VP candidate.
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
ALL REPUKES STINK LIKE THE PURE TRAILER TRASH THEY ARE PRETENDING NOT TO BE..
By joy
September 3, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
Good point,
Who’s insurance will cover the baby. The Republicans don’t believe in health care for all. Wonder if she will sign up for WIC. Wonder what kind of a job will a 17 and 18 year old get with benefits to take care of the baby. Wonder where they will live. We know how the Republicans feel about taking care of the needy. Oh that’s right, they will live off their parents who already have four other kids. Hmmm makes you wonder.
By joy
September 3, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
Good point,
Who’s insurance will cover the baby. The Republicans don’t believe in health care for all. Wonder if she will sign up for WIC. Wonder what kind of a job will a 17 and 18 year old get with benefits to take care of the baby. Wonder where they will live. We know how the Republicans feel about taking care of the needy. Oh that’s right, they will live off their parents who already have four other kids. Hmmm makes you wonder.
By buster brown
September 3, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
I understand this fine young man is now at woolworths, in Wasilla being fitted for a new suit.
It seems his closet was quite empty….
To go with the striped brown suit he chose a red plaid flannel shirt, and a purple bolo tie…
And to cap off the ensemble black hiking boots and white tube socks!
He says that after the convention he’ll save money by getting married in the same fine attire.
Bristol meanwhile is at the Wasilla bridal shop throwing a hissy, it seems they only stock one wedding dress!
By Bush go away
September 3, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
So Wooten comes on here to say that the delegates roared their approval when Palin’s name was mentioned? And that’s supposed to prove she’s qualified? It’s the Republican National Convention Jim. They roared for Dan Quayle too.
And let’s not forget our very own Republican hack, Secretary of State Karen Handel, who said that Palin was qualified in foriegn policy matters because “Alaska is the closest state to Russia.”
Grasping at straws, grasping at straws.
By sharon
September 3, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
CommunistAJC if Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude from HARVARD and led the Law Review, then I don’t give a d-mn what he did at Columbia College. By the way, I thought he graduated from Columbia University.There’s a big difference. You might want to check that. What school did you graduate from. What was your GPA? I agree with everything Copyleft said. Lol (cousin Sarah)
By Dusty
September 3, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this
Dear Captain,@11:22
You are one silver tongued orator. Too bad you have so little to say in content. But liberals have to use what they have available. They have scraped the bottom of the shiny barrel and found you eagerly reaching for the golden sun of sinfulness and success. And what success!!
Twisted totems of jaded rumors, scriptural spumoni, gender gerrymandering, racial rejection, religious repulsion, happy hallucinations, and every liberal digest in disguise that you can promulgate. I bet you even beat your dog.
Congratulations, dear heathen. You are the King of the hill, the top of the pile, the aroma of the awful and the prevaricator of the perished (liberals, that is). Take your krispykreme kudos and run. Your brothers in Babylon are waiting…don’t linger!!
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
Traitor Joe LieberSwine must be p** his panties about now, seeing as how his boy John did not pick a puppet of the pro Israel lobby for vp….what a great joke…I hope Sarah turns out to be AmeriKa’s hitler, and we march on Israel asap…..
By sharon
September 3, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
CommunistAJC if Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude from HARVARD and led the Law Review, then I don’t give a d-mn what he did at Columbia College. By the way, I thought he graduated from Columbia University.There’s a big difference. You might want to check that. What school did you graduate from. What was your GPA? I agree with everything Copyleft said. Lol (cousin Sarah)
By fearless fosdik
September 3, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
Sarah Palin, this year used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live.
Let them eat cake, she was reported to have said!
Any teenage girl so irresponsible as to get pregnant does not deserve our help or assistance.
This type of behavior will not stand!
ENOUGH SAID!!!!!!!
By Don't Hate
September 3, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
Did all you haters forget Obama’s mama was a teenager when she got pregant with him. His daddy left him and his mama, What do you have to say about that.
By mark o
September 3, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
I’m surprised that so many of you guys expect partisan Republicans or Democrats to be fair. It’s a lot like asking a pig to be noble. These people have known who they were going to support for months. The election hinges on the votes of a small minority that actually employ the use of their brains when making decisions, and this is where I suspect Gandpa Munster and Miss congeniality are going to find the sledding a might tough. After all we’re dealing with a seventy-two year old reformer that supported Mr 27% 95% of the time. Governor Palin will need to prove she has a handle on global problems while many suspect that she does’nt even know what’s going on in New Jersey. As for Obama, the best thing he’s got going for him is the fact that you can only fire one political party at a time.
By janet
September 3, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this
I think the central issue is not the unplanned pregnancy of an unmarried minor but rather the hypocrisy of the religious right and the Republican conservatives. There are two sets of rules for them: 1- they are always forgiven because they are sinners and human. The rest of us are condemned to eternal damnation. I seem to remember an evangelical, Christian preacher who was caught with a prostitute a few years back. He was so sorry and asked for forgiveness. He was sorry he got caught not for the failure of his actions. And so it goes on and on.
As for this unplanned pregnancy, it is the result of unprotected sex and that means the transmission of STD’s including HIV - Aids. Yes, it happens even in Wasilla, the official Meth capital of Alaska.
By Dusty
September 3, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
Copyleft and Peter,
Neither one of you knows what you are talking about. You can’t even understand what I posted. I guess you hate your children if they make a mistake? Figures!
Breaking the “rules” seldom brings any pleasure in the long run. I never said it did.
Now, you two dodos cam stop trying to “translate” what I meant. I said it quite plainly.
For goodness sakes, quit repeating yourselves, word for word. Once is more than enough.
By csquare6
September 3, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
My question remains: what is a community organizer and what job skills are directly transferable to the presidency? How does being a community organizer enable a president to understand a market economy? Or foreign policy? The communities I’ve lived in didn’t have community organizers: Were we disorganized? How did we survive? Where does one train to become a community organizer? Is there a certification for community organizers? Is there a trade group? Do all community organizers support a Cuba-style economy, or just Senator Obama?
I’m Just Asking.
Well, I know you are just asking and let me tell you something. It does not matter what you say, policy should be based on the Constitution and who better to deal with policy than an attorney who has taught Constitutional Law! Obama is a very smart man. Sometimes I think everyone has forgotten that Obama is an Attorney with degrees from the most respected schools in the nation. Oh, he did not get into those schools under affirmative action either, he had the grades and the test scores to get in anyway. Every black person who goes to college and is successful did not need affirmative action to get into school. Almost all colleges, thank God, were seeking bright students regardless of color long before affirmative action was even thought of. This Baby Mama mess is just another smoke screen that the Republican Party has placed on the table. They thought the Democrates would jump on it but they have not. Obama spoke first to say it is off limits. Of course you are “Just saying” because you don’t want to accept that the experience topic is nothing to fight over either.
It is already clear that Mr. Obama will be accepted by the other leaders of the world. I think the Republican Party has a problem here and it isn’t all because of Palin. I think the party needs to look around at how many people are not working, how many kids are off fighting and how many people are “out in the street” without a home. All of these things and more happened because of the present party in the White House. Wake up, this election is not about Gay Marriage or Row vrs. Wade. Stop trying to bring those topics up. Smoke Screens, Smoke Screens!
By Captain Freedom
September 3, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
Dearest Dusty,
THE Captain seems to have struck a nerve. Noone is more surprised than He to find that you your central nervous system is still at least partly intact.
Do have another Xanax and try to relax.
Affectionately,
YOUR Captain
By RamblinLonghorn
September 3, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
These are the same people that were tearing apart Jamie Lynn Spears less than a year ago.
Kudos on the Hypocrisy.
By jacksmum
September 3, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
The pics on Mediatakeout.com are not of Bristol Palin…what do you think we all look alike?
By CommunistAJC
September 3, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
sharon, I graduated from Duke. My GPA? Ummmmmm…..3.8. By the way, where did you earn a degree? And what was your GPA?
By janet
September 3, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
I think the central issue is not the unplanned pregnancy of an unmarried minor but rather the hypocrisy of the religious right and the Republican conservatives. There are two sets of rules for them: 1- they are always forgiven because they are sinners and human. The rest of us are condemned to eternal damnation. I seem to remember an evangelical, Christian preacher who was caught with a prostitute a few years back. He was so sorry and asked for forgiveness. He was sorry he got caught not for the failure of his actions. And so it goes on and on.
As for this unplanned pregnancy, it is the result of unprotected sex and that means the transmission of STD’s including HIV - Aids. Yes, it happens even in Wasilla, the official Meth capital of Alaska.
By dirty harry
September 3, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
By Don’t Hate
Don’t hate …. I believe Obama has already stated his position on this affair! Right?
But, as long as Mr. Wooten brings it into the fold…Anything within reason goes!
Sounds to me Don’t hate by your comments you are a hater!
Go back to HATING.
By Tony
September 3, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this
Phoney combat guy McCain(3.8 hours) and Moose-Munchin Mama. A gross liar and a simple-minded hillbilly. There are enough Murcuhns of that mindset to just elect this nightmare of nightmares. Look at how the malcontents are slobbering over Sarah and “I’m a ——in Redneck” Levi. Says something about our educational system.
By Get Real
September 3, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
“Did all you haters forget Obama’s mama was a teenager when she got pregant with him. His daddy left him and his mama, What do you have to say about that.”
First, learn to spell. Secondly, what does that have to do with anything? Do you think we would have elected his mother to the second highest office on the land? NO. She is not running for VP. This woman is… a woman who cannot manager her own children. If she can’t keep reins on her daughter, how can she be expected to run the nation?
NEXT.
By Why
September 3, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
McCain + Sara = Regis & Kelly…
By Captain Freedom
September 3, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
csquare6
Your inexplicable focus on “intelligence” and “ability” is at the root of your Dummycrat track record of lose lose lose in every Presidential election since 1912 (give or take, whatever).
For while you bleeding hearts are busy nominating someone who actually understands the intricacies of, oh say, Constitutional law; or domestic v. global economic trends; or, silly billy, something like actual facts about al Quaeda, the Taliban, and the fact that Iraq had nothing to do with with either — while you and your America-hating ilk worry about finding someone actually QUALIFIED, we of True Belief continue to whip your donkey time and again by running Symbols of American Crunchy Goodness, Godly White Men who everyone would like to have a beer with, Good Christians with Character and a compelling life story, real or fabricated. Hence Reagan, Bush pere and fils (pardon my damnable French), Nixon, that Republican who was President 92-99, and now McCain.
So stroke your little chin all you want, Mr Sophisticate. Right Thinking always wins the day!!!
Dusty agrees with this very much, naturally.
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this
Please, Everyone just Cancel your subcriptions to the ajc….just say no to Woodenhead and its ilk….Did ya enjoy your RU-486 paid for dinner last night jimmy woodenhead? After this, RU486 will be given in holy communion at all jesus freak repuke churches each and every sunday….
By Jerry Springer Convention!
September 3, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
I dont care if she knows who the father is or not! A babymama is a WOMAN who is having a baby and is NOT married to the father! Yeah they may get married but until then she is just a babymama. They have turned this into The Jerry Springer Convention not The Republican National Convention! And these are the people we want to run our country?
By Dusty
September 3, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
Dear Captain @11:53
I was always good at compliments. Your disposal delights were easy.
Have you found that Xanax helps your condition? I don’t use that kind of stuff, just an aspirin now and then.
My regards to your dog, bless his heart, and a pat on the head for you.
Your friend,
Dusty
By mary
September 3, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
DON”T HATE: This what I have to say about your comment. Yes, Obama’s mother was a teen baby momma on welfare. You know what that is dont ya. Public assistance in which the Republicans don’t agree with. I’m sure she took him to the doctor with medicade/medicare. You know what that is don’t ya. What the Republicans oppose. When he grew up, the country belived in helping the needy and giving them a hand up. You know what that means don’t ya. What the Republicans oppose. Besides that was 40+ years ago. We need solutions to this problem today. Leave it to the Republicans to keep saying “don’t have sex and you won’t get pregnant”. Clueless as usual.
By mary
September 3, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
DON”T HATE: This what I have to say about your comment. Yes, Obama’s mother was a teen baby momma on welfare. You know what that is dont ya. Public assistance in which the Republicans don’t agree with. I’m sure she took him to the doctor with medicade/medicare. You know what that is don’t ya. What the Republicans oppose. When he grew up, the country belived in helping the needy and giving them a hand up. You know what that means don’t ya. What the Republicans oppose. Besides that was 40+ years ago. We need solutions to this problem today. Leave it to the Republicans to keep saying “don’t have sex and you won’t get pregnant”. Clueless as usual.
By B.A.
September 3, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
To:Steve, September 3, 2008 10:24 AM
What an absolute IDIOTIC comment! I can’t believe we have so very many naive folk reading this blog. How can you NOT see what McCain is up to? As a Soldier, I was a staunch Bush supporter. So I can’t say I was for one party or the other. I am now a STAUNCH OBAMA supporter. I pray we can all look at the bigger, brighter picture and vote for the BEST candidate. GO OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!!
By AnnieR
September 3, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
Go Dusty!!! I’m with you, Captain Freedom is an idiot….but he is singing the song of so many others who have commented. What a bunch of self righteous, liberal buttheads. It would be enlightening to be the fly on the walls at any of their homes - I’m sure their families are just perfect and would withstand the media vultures’ scrutiny. All you libs - “Judge not, lest ye be judged”, even your candidate is smart enough to know when to back off. Obama’s story is carefully crafted and media savvy - its easy to control the message. But for Sarah Palin, her story is real life and she is handling her daughter’s situation with compassion and character. She is being tested and I’m confident she will emerge victorious - over the situation AND with McCain in November.
By ga voter
September 3, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
Hell, look at this situation: palin’s grandbaby that we going to have to support, 17 year old son-in-law, and high taxes. Now be real folks, its enough crap to deal with anyway. Do we need this? Damn right, with all this drama in both parties, its going to effect who we decide to take office.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
September 3, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
Dear copyleft @ 11:24, your analysis of Dusty’s compassionate post is pure projection. The hatred you attribute to honest conservatives seethes in your own posts. There is a hypocrite here, but it is not our friend Dusty.
I realize your post is no different from that of practically all other leftists here today – specifically excepting friends Shar and Southern Democrat. That is my point. We Christians have a philosophy, “hate the sin, love the sinner.” The leftist spewers simply don’t understand, not that there is anything unusual about that.
Dear csquare6 @ 11:53, “It is already clear that Mr. Obama will be accepted by the other leaders of the world.” Not just accepted, but also battered and fried.
By findog
September 3, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
Dear Jim, The real issue is the insurance scam the Palin’s are playing. If you really believe in personal values then they should get married now and have to pay for that child’s birth and not leach off of the State of Alaska. That’s the problem they are abusing the insurance and medical industry to get a free delivery! This should not be a discussion on values but on medical insurance coverage in the United States and how the haves can manipulate the system and the have-nots get the remaining crumbs and the middle class gets the shaft year after year. How can the Republican’s support market solutions to the medical crisis the middleclass is facing while your number two is blatantly abusing the system?
By Jay Black
September 3, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
WHY IS IT WHEN REPUBLICANS HAVE ISSUES RELATING TO THEIR FAMILIES IT BECOMES A FAMILY MATTER AND THEY WANT TO KEEP IT AS SUCH? BUT, WHEN DEMOCRATS HAVE FAMILY ISSUES, LIKE CHEATING ON THEIR SPOUSES, IT’S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION?
IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE! IF AMERICA CAN DISCUSS CLINTON’S AND EDWARD’S ADULTEROUS AFFAIRS, WE CAN DISCUSS SOME BRITNEY/JAMIE SPEAR’S COPY CAT DAUGHTER OF PALIN. AND PALIN HAS SOME SERIOUS ISSUES OF HER OWN TOO. LET’S TALK ABOUT THAT!
NO MORE OF THIS DOUBLE STANDARD REPUBLICANS! IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE!
VOTE OBAMA!
By sharon
September 3, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
Out of all the comments Jay said it best. Parading the pregnant teen and her boyfriend on national television is irresponsible. It sends the wrong message to impressionable teens. I agree with him 100%. Thank you for being the voice of reason. On a lighter note, I wonder if the baby’s father was black would they parade him on television too. Just wondering out aloud. This campaign reeks pf hypocrisy.
By Beowulf
September 3, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
The comments in here have turned to plain evil. I’d really like to believe that I do not live in a world of evil-doers, but this speech is so hateful on both sides.
I think Lieberman, think what you may of him as I think nobody really favors him much anymore, put it best last night…we are Americans!
The appeal of Ms. Palin is the same as that of Mr. Obama, they are both relatively un-Washington. They represent a breath of fresh air for their respective parties after so many years of being run by grumpy old men. It is a shame that we will let our political views get in the way of objectivity and empathy for the candidates.
Obama had a tough upbringing, bouncing around, never really fitting in, etc. Ms. Palin is experiencing a situation that so many families in America have to deal with. These are real Americans, real people, not politicians who have been entrenched in Washington crap for decades.
I’d personally love to see it be Palin vs Obama, but that will not happen. Both tickets have a grumpy old man as part of them, but there is hope for the future. But come on, can you not extend the same sympathy that you would expect if your candidate was in that situation?
What if McCain had been raised by a single parent? Would that change the views of you conservatives on Obama’s upbringing? And what if Chelsea Clinton had gotten pregnant while her dad was in office. How would that make you Democrats feel? Is it really fair to be saying such things?
Come on, if we want to levy attacks, keep it to the ISSUES and to the politicians who are so corrupt that until there is a FULL changing of the guard we will continue to see business as usual. Obama or Palin will be a good first step, and for that I am thankful. I do have a preference in this election, which I do not choose to share at this point. But at least there is hope on the horizon that maybe we can flush out the system.
Support the REAL people - don’t tear them down! They represent hope for us other real people.
By sharon
September 3, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
Out of all the comments Jay said it best. Parading the pregnant teen and her boyfriend on national television is irresponsible. It sends the wrong message to impressionable teens. I agree with him 100%. Thank you for being the voice of reason. On a lighter note, I wonder if the baby’s father was black would they parade him on television too. Just wondering out aloud. This campaign reeks pf hypocrisy.
By Peggy
September 3, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
HOW DID OBAMA’S DEAD MOTHER WHO ENDED HER LIFE AS A PH.D GET INTO THIS STORY?
Both of his parents where PH.D’s. Doesn’t that just make some of rednecks on this panel sick? By the way, how dare that Klan rally in Minnesota use civil rights leaders on their big screen last night. The audience was 99% white. The only way to get some color at the convention was to use deceased black people. The only women in the audience were their wives. They mostly looked over medicated. I guess I would be to if I was married to an old white professional klan member who can’t accept that the world is changing. American is diverse, the GOP is not!
By jacksmum
September 3, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
Beowulf and Ragnar - thank you both for the voices of logic and reason.
By Captain Freedom
September 3, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
sharon: “I wonder if the baby’s father was black would they parade him on television too.”
Sharon, you ignorant liberal. This scenario is impossible. There are no black people in Alaska. Silly liberal.
AnnieR — Welcome to THE Captain’s Fan Club. Thanks for reading….
By @@
September 3, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
But dang if I’d have brought the father of Bristol Palin’s baby to the GOP convention on one of the three most important days in Gov. Sarah Palin’s campaign life.
How do you know the campaign organizers brought him Jim?
Could be young Levi (They’re Tougher in Alaska, ‘ya know?) decided it was time to skin the democratic moooooos……..e?
Heck! If the left-wing media wants to focus all their attention on him, that would gut their tender underbelly now wouldn’t it?
Outing the Innards of OBlahMa!!!!!!
She and John McCain are not going to care how much the alligators get irritated when they get to Washington, they’re going to drain that swamp. — Fred Thompson @ The RNC Convention 9/02/08
Loved that ^^^ line.
Why I’m voting McCain/Palin 08, The Reform Ticket Twofer.
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
I see the scum bag censors are busy at work, deleting any and all comments unfavorable to israel and its zionist scum bag protectors. One day, pay back….
By Common Sense
September 3, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
To all:
Having executive decision is not that big, we have Enron ceo making executives decisions and look what happen!
It is about making good decisions is what makes a good leader!
McClain did not study his flight book and almost killed himself!
McClain left his wife and chased several women!
McClain supported the war now he claims he came up with the surge, when we are paying the Sunnis and Shia’s not to shoot at our soldiers. Al-sadr has told his army to stand down!
McClain picked a woman who has experience but we do not know if she made good decisions!
McClain acts like Iraq is the one who bomb the twin towers!
McClain states I do not know much about the economy!
McClain has been in office for 26 years and we have been sending out oil money for 30 years and now he has a plan!
Fred T thinks he is smart as long as you are for the wise old men, who have currently ran our country in the ground.
An over abundance of Military dollars will always bankrupt a nation. It has happened many times in the past.
By Dusty
September 3, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
Dear Captain Freedom of the Fools,@12:03
You take my name in vain, you man(maybe) of vanity. The fact that al Queda has shown up in Iraq like dirty laundry remains beyond your sphere of comprehension.
The fact that a generous (white and godly)man of good will had the foresight to vanquish the vanguards of terrorism befuddles your two cells of gray matter.
You postulate like a postman about “knowlege and ability” while delivering no mail. You could write a tome as “tony” as Pelosi’s.
Alas for the hate filled horror of losing elections in hanging petards, petitions and lily-livered lawsuits. It cut to the quick, did it not? Somewhat exasperating, like watching Clinton lie to a Grand Jury.
But you reach for the truth. Right thinking always wins the day!! Yes indeed.
Now, inhale…deeply….and try again, dear Captain…. Capitulate!!
By nypeach
September 3, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Captain Freedom, well said!!! I laughed so hard everytime I read your post I almost fell out my chair. I don’t judge Bristol or her fiance. After all, they live in Alaska—what else is there to do? But I think marriage at 17 is compounding one mistake with another. I believe her mother and father ought to stay home in Alaska and pay attention to the family. Running for a national office will only add to the obvious chaos and lack of attention already made obvious with the girl’s pregnancy. I’m not hating on Republicans, but Palin for VP was one of the dumbest things I’ve seen in a long time.
By Beowulf
September 3, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
A lighter note, Sharon? You just played the race card! Congrats, you just took this to a new low!
Listen, the “dad” is a white teenage dropout who thinks he looks cool by dressing like a rapper. How much more embarrassing could it be? It is not about the image, and I am sure that this HALF-INUIT family would have no problem with the boyfriend (other than the obvious parent angst at the deflowering of their daughter) no matter what race he is.
The hypocrisy I see right now is that people who usually are preaching about tolerance and acceptance are the ones out there saying that this situation is not tolerable and that the Palins are bad parents. Or that they would not have accepted a black boyfriend…
What would be the better course of action, especially for Republicans? The pregnancy news would still have leaked, should they leave the future of the child’s parenting for people to speculate about, or perhaps even whether Bristol were to keep the child? It is none of our business, and by showing what the kids are doing it answers questions and shuts up the people who have nothing better to do with their lives than postulate as to how “bad” these kids are.
Could it backfire, giving him exposure? Sure. But it to me shows honest intent for the well-being of the upcoming child.
By Truthifier
September 3, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
“Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno.” – Sen. John McCain, speaking to a Republican dinner, June 1998.
This is the man who has such great character? Someone who would make fun of a the 18 year old daughter of the President? Give me a break.
By bj
September 3, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Zell Miller is sitting back and saying “I told you so”. I thought Zell lost his mind several years ago when he said that the Democrats were no longer effective. I have been a democrat all of my life and this election has brougt me to a crossroad. The DNC put Obama out there because they have lost the last 2 races with Kerry and Gore and want the African Americans to usher Obama into the Whitehouse. Just like some women are insulted because they feel McCain put Palin on the ticket to grab women voters, I feel the same about the DNC putting inexpierenced Barack Obama out there because they know or think that all blacks will vote for him regardless. I am a black woman.
By Captain Freedom
September 3, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
Thank you again for your consistent and whole-hearted support. It is the dutiful not-men persons like yourself who make it possible for Men Like THE Captain to make America great.
Treat yourself to an extra package of chips ahoy for lunch! It’s on THE Captain.
By CwnBt
September 3, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
WHY IS IT WHEN REPUBLICANS HAVE ISSUES RELATING TO THEIR FAMILIES IT BECOMES A FAMILY MATTER AND THEY WANT TO KEEP IT AS SUCH? BUT, WHEN DEMOCRATS HAVE FAMILY ISSUES, LIKE CHEATING ON THEIR SPOUSES, IT’S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION?
Because adults should be held accountable.
17 year olds should be off limits.
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
All repuke women are as ugly as sin, Ann Coulter being a prime example of extreme uglyness.
By Just Asking
September 3, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
So CwnBt,
Tell us about the time you cheated on your spouse.
Just Asking
P.S. I avoided typing in all caps since it, like you, is uncouth.
By RealityKing
September 3, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
Bad move? Just think of all the political theatrics a Republican Camalot wedding will bring in October!
Mom and newly minted GodFather McCain standing proudly in the wings.., and of course, those international politicians showing up for their 5 mins of American PR, most especially France. All captured live on TV. Bad move??
By Peter
September 3, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Looks Like Dusty and ALL the REPUBLICAN LIBERALS are lining up for their lemming jump ……..
Yes let’s have a VP who’s daughter started having sex at 16 as our new LIBERAL VP.
Vote for the NEW LIBERALS….make sure your sons and daughters have ZERO Contraceptives, yet it is GREAT if ALL REPUBLICAN Children have Sex at 16 and marry at 17 GO LIBERAL REPUBLICANS……….
WHY…………. Because Life Just Happened……..!!!!!!!!
That’s right, but wait…….. there must have been “Faulty Intelligence” involved………
Heck if we can have a 2.7 Trillion dollar WAR because of Faulty Intelligence………….we can have Republican Children having very early age Sex and call it …….
Well you know what……….. Trailer Trash !
By dirty harry
September 3, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this
@@ ah yes, FRED THOMPSON!!
What was it Richard Nixon said about Fred Thompson during WATERGATE?
“Oh sht, he’s dumb as hll,” Nixon said at the mention of Thompson’s name. “Who’s — Who is he? He won’t say anything.”
Copied on tape…..
Also Thompson .. tipped off the White House that the committee knew about the taping system and would be making the information public.
In other words instead of working for the american people he was a mole working for the CROOKED administration!
And now droopy eyes is giving speeches that @@ thinks are cute!
By Beowulf
September 3, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
A lighter note, Sharon? You just played the race card! Congrats, you just took this to a new low!
Listen, the “dad” is a white teenage dropout who thinks he looks cool by dressing like a rapper. How much more embarrassing could it be? It is not about the image, and I am sure that this HALF-INUIT family would have no problem with the boyfriend (other than the obvious parent angst at the deflowering of their daughter) no matter what race he is.
The hypocrisy I see right now is that people who usually are preaching about tolerance and acceptance are the ones out there saying that this situation is not tolerable and that the Palins are bad parents. Or that they would not have accepted a black boyfriend…
What would be the better course of action, especially for Republicans? The pregnancy news would still have leaked, should they leave the future of the child’s parenting for people to speculate about, or perhaps even whether Bristol were to keep the child? It is none of our business, and by showing what the kids are doing it answers questions and shuts up the people who have nothing better to do with their lives than postulate as to how “bad” these kids are.
Could it backfire, giving him exposure? Sure. But it to me shows honest intent for the well-being of the upcoming child.
By findog
September 3, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
AnnieR@12:12 Is that judge not line in the Republican Platform this year?
THE Captain is a Major force in the double-entandre of the political farce this blog has become and should be promoted.
Rangar, Are you the new weather lady on the local CBS station? And as far as hypocrisy, if you’re not willing to bend your beliefs to support your candidate what are you willing to bend them for?
As far as the educational grade point average of those who drop the names of their institution with a numerical, or Latin, claim to intellect just look where the supposed best and brightest the GOP could muster have gotten us; and please spare me the DNC has held congress for twenty-one months.
Based on approval ratings only the courts have a passing grade, and that changes with each new perversion of our sacred constitution.
Finally, has anyone found the answer to the insurance question?
By Peadawg
September 3, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
CwnBt: You give us republicans a bad name. You’re gonna tell me a 17 yr old doesn’t need to be held accountable? A 17 yr old isn’t an adult? A 17 yr old doesn’t know what she’s doing? Go to the other side please!
By Snerk
September 3, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
“I think Lieberman, [snip].. put it best last night… we are Americans!”
Wow, that was original. Why didn’t the Democrats think to say that at their convention? They’d be much farther ahead in the polls if they just talked about taking off that whatever hat and putting on the American hat. It’s all about the hats, you know. Lieberbutt’s idea. Brilliant!
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
CwnBt - As ronnie reagan once said “if they are old enough to bleed, they are old enough for me.” Try to keep that in your stinking, dinky, repuke mind.
By The Way
September 3, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
Wooten wrote at least 50 articles in recent years condemning out-of-wedlock parents. Most recently was his excoriation of black teens and pregnant black teens.
Does Wooten think we have amnesia? Sarah Putin did shine on friday. Never mind every word she spoke was a total lie. (She’ll make a great Veep.)
She is pork. And you know what I always say: You cant make a silk parse out of a sow’s earmark.
Bristol Palin should not be held to a stricter standard than those black pregnant teens, nor should the left make her out to be some other-wordly demon for it either.
Wooten, if he wants to redeem his credibility, he must undergo a public catharthis and admit he’s been overly partisan and innappropriately judgemental.
By ga voter
September 3, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this
Hey, at least we know whats goes on up in Alaska. They are Americans too just in case anyone forgot.
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this
As another good repuke, Ed Meese, once said “If they are old enough to pee, they are old enough for me.”
By paliniswindowdressing
September 3, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this
Janet, love your post at 11:56. Truth is any one can call themself a Christian. But if you don’t practice what you preach you are just the same as the rest of the sinning, hell-bound world. The right-wingers always get a free pass. Look at Bush and his boozing daughters, three of the worlds biggest alcoholics and no one even mentions it. Most people use the word Christian to cover up all their sins, they think it gives them an automatic pass to heaven. They also think by saying this boy is going to marry her it will make everything alright. But I bet even the republicans know that marriage is the last thing on this young boys mind. They only said the “M” word to justify the pregnancy. People back to the real story, this lady is not ready to be VP or President if necessary, they only picked her to compete with the Obama’s and Biden families. It won’t work look at what they have to compete with. Obama with his beautiful wife and his two well-behaved extraordinary daughters, then you have Biden. His wonderful son serving in our military, a wonderful, devoted and dedicated wife who looked at him the other night as if they had just fallen in love. Not to mention Bidens adorable grand-children. I was most impressed by Mama Biden, she makes me want to go out and cast my vote right now. This governor was brought in to compete with this, they don’t stand a chance.
By Redneck Convert
September 3, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
We ain’t had a redneck around the White House since Andrew Jackson—unless you want to count Billy Carter, and he was kept hid somewhere in south GA. But the minute we come close to getting one again, the pointy-heads start hollering and making up all kind of lies.
Us rednecks been voting Republican nigh on 40 years now or however long this civil rights bunk has went on and nobody named a redneck to the ticket till old man McCain named this woman his VP.
Its our turn. Just look at that White House yard. Nothing but trees and grass and flowers. I think a 1963 Chevy and a old pickup up on blocks would give the place some class. The news people could follow the VP around to moose hunts and gun shows. And she has a couple more dotters that might be getting in the Fambly Way soon. Heck, you can’t keep your eye on all of them all the time.
Nothing wrong with bringing that young daddy along on the campaign. I would be proud to show off the daddy of little Sonny Zell George if I knowed which one he was.
Anyhow, all you libruls need to shut up. I’m sick of seeing us get run down. Just wait till we start pouring out of the trailer parks and heading to the polls. You won’t be laughing no more.
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
All Repuke women are FAT and UGLY…that is why ALL their husbands cheat with hired hookers….
By ncgreybr
September 3, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Oh! What a difference a week makes! Just last week having a pregnant unwed daughter was a thing to hide in the Republican party. This week it’s a new family value!
By KLK
September 3, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
I have a hard time digesting the news, being an educated woman in her 40s who was taught to get an education, keep your pants up, be responsible, and have a career before settling down. I grew up Republican, but became a Democrat in 1992. I am now undecided and trying to vote based on what our country needs vs only voting for my party. This all seems so blue collar to me. If it were my daughter, she could have the baby, but would go the adoption route. Bristol is a child, and most girls are children in a way until they are late 20s. It does not appear Levi will have an education to back him in support of the family. We will see what Sarah has to say tonight, but for a VP that could be our President, I am unsure. She has a lot on her plate at home and should concentrate on this. McCain is the strongest of the Presidential candidates. Could she step down and have someone else more worldly as VP?
By Fulton
September 3, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
I thinks it’s pathetic for any candidate to ‘exploit’ their family as a political ploy for either votes OR sympathy. Shame on them for allowing & supporting this type of strategy!! Those KIDS have enough on their plates and should not be thrown into this to help clean up the mess that has become the GOP! The hypocrisy of you people seems to have NO boundaries!! To add: The fact that you allow yourself to actually believe Pallin is capable of running THE COUNTRY says enough about your state of reality! Doesn’t SHE have enough on her plate as well?
By Copyleft
September 3, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Dear Ragnar, you are—as usual—deeply mistaken in your blind hatred of sane people (or, as you call them, “leftists”).
Dusty consists entirely of hatred and venom, not to mention obnoxious personal insults and attacks on people’s personal lives—PROVIDED that those persons are Democrats, of course. Witness any of her comments on Teresa Heinz-Kerry, Bill and Hillary, Ted Kennedy, ad infinitum, ad nauseam.
Of course, you (and she) are incapable of seeing such venomous slander because of the fascist blinders you wear. This is typical of conservative ignorance, which relies heavily on outright denial to maintain their hypocritical stance no matter how vile their own party’s behavior becomes (evidence—Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, the list goes on and on).
I submit, Ragnar/JBM, that the blinders are firmly on your eyes, not mine. If you fail to see how Republican screeching and whining about “family values” suddenly falls silent when one of their own is involved, then you’re as dimwitted as the most desperate of fascist dupes… in other words, Dusty.
By Dusty
September 3, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Dear Captain Freedom @12:28
How sad! I thought you were the prestigious presider at Captain D’s Seafood but it turns out you are The Racist Rube of the Irrelevant.
A few corrections on your suggestive remarks. About 4% of citizens in Alaska are black. American Indians and Alaska Natives number a little less than 16%. Sarah Palin has lived and governed with minorites and she has a very high approval rating as governor.
Were you trying to foist a bit of your prejudice upon Sarah Palin? You are foiled AGAIN, mon fanatique!! En garde!!
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
No Repuke mantra “Pullout, pullout!” withdraw now and avoid preggers….
By howa
September 3, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
Have your read about the father to be’s Myspace page that has been removed …and no wonder. He calls him a f—-ing redneck. And writes about whipping somebody’s a…..And goes on to say he is “in a relationship”…but…and get this, “doesn’t want children”. For those who remember Billy Carter, this father to be makes Billy look like an English gentleman….This guy reminds me of Britney Spears first husband who was an old boyfriend from back home, the one she was married to in Las Vegas for a few days, only this father to be lacks the “classiness” of that guy. And, by the way, despite the fact he says he’ll make an “honest woman of her”, they aren’t married yet….
By Tired of Hypocrasy
September 3, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
You know it wouldn’t bother me so much that Gov. Palin’s daughter is pregnant if only these so-called religious Pharisees, I mean Regurgitatans would admit that had this been one of Pres. Obama’s(just a matter of time) daughters getting pregnant, they would’ve been ready to cast stones.
But as they say, if you don’t agree with the rules, just change the rules to agree with you.
By Me 2
September 3, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
Ha! Love that Redneck Convert! We can even change the name from The White House to The Waffle House.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
September 3, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
Dear findog @ 12:55, “Rangar, … And as far as hypocrisy, if you’re not willing to bend your beliefs to support your candidate what are you willing to bend them for?” I perceive that is a compliment to consistency of my standards, thanks. Re your subsequent paragraph, are you a proponent of the fox and hedgehog theory?
By @@
September 3, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
What was it Richard Nixon said about Fred Thompson during WATERGATE?
Dirty:
What is it with you progressives? You’re always driving in reverse. You’re a progressive dammit! Put it in drive…….
Onward & Upyours! Now that’s the progressive mantra you must all get behind!
By Beowulf
September 3, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this
BTW, Wooten is a columnist, and is paid to give his opinions to tick you off. What he says is tame compared to what nonsense follows anyway. People say talk radio is hate speech, but gee look at the blogosphere and Rush and Hannity seem angelic. Hate is alive and well on the internet.
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this
Way down in Georgia, they put a black high school football player in prison for life over a little sex with a white girl a couple years younger….double standard, The Georgia Repukes don’t like thier baby girls giving head to black boys…but they still hire the black teenage hookers to git their own heads on….Right Guv Sonny of the pretty pink panties….
By rawbreed
September 3, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
Does Gloucester, MA ring a bell? This is supposedly a conservative community with this same kind of insanity going on and nobody is seeing that this has become a crippling epidemic in America. Why would repubs say leave family out of this, then turn around and force these poor kids into the spotlight? Trying to make them appear older and closer to marriage? As if to say “see? our kids are no longer kids and can make good conservative adult decisions!” ….SMH…. Palin, you are damaging your daughter when you do this! ….When we find out that Trig also belongs to your daughter and it came from your husband all hell is going to break loose! mark my words!
By Rusty
September 3, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
This is getting interesting.Here you have a VP nominee on one ticket with more elected,executive and managerial experience that the Presidential nominee from the other ticket. And she’s hot! The Obamamites are scared and it’s showing.
By Dusty
September 3, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
Copyleft @ 1:11
I am so sorry that I cannot be as pleasant as you and all the liberals here. Just an unattainable goal for which I will not try.
Thanks, jbmlaw, for your kind understanding of families as we know them. Best wishes, always, to you and your son in the Navy.
By haha
September 3, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
all those who still doubt that there’s more than just a pregnancy check this out http://www.bossip.com/25563/booze-and-babies/ this is not looking good at all!
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
September 3, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
Dear windowdressing @ 1:03, Christians are not perfect and do not claim to be so. They are simply people who try to do better. To the extent that you argue that “right-wingers” tend to be people who try to do better, I agree with your post.
Dear copyleft @ 1:11, you are restraining the venom, well done. I note one silly element of your post, the suggestion that conservatives laud “miscreants” such as Messrs. Foley (compelled to retire by the party) and Haggard (never elected,) whereas democrats aggressively condemn democrats who kill interns at bridges or who hide FBI records in private quarters or who shred documents stolen from the National Archives.
By dirty harry
September 3, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
@@
What is it McCain always reverts to when asked a difficult question?
Oh yea…You know I was a POW for five years. How could I possibly know how many houses I own!
Talk about putting it into reverse!
So UPYOURS!
By Me
September 3, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
I think it is real selfish of her to put her daughter through this. This marriage is a forced marriage to make the situation look better. It is sad that it has to be that way. That reminds me of Beyonce sister who got pregnant at 17 and next week her a* was married and a year later divorced. It is not going to work. Next she will be in the news for getting a divorce.
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
September 3, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
Dear Dusty @ 1:25, I am honored to be on your side and gratefully receive your good wishes for my son. Re the family values, the leftists do this stuff every election. Remember Mary Cheney? We can always expect the worst of the left, as it is noting more than hatred masquerading as a political party. All thieves, all the time.
By findog
September 3, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
Copyleft,
Rangar is not a republican he’s a conservative.
The problem is too many people called the 800-number Representative Gingrich ran on CSPAN and now all political discussions use name-calling, or stereotypical labeling, to describe one and other.
Being a moderate I just would like a little consistency; but since our elections have become a big job fair for political hacks I guess we will just have to continue to destroy the fabric of our society to save it from the other side, either side.
Still, if a conservative or republican could give me an answer to the insurance question I would love to hear the spin…
By Common Sense
September 3, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this
To Bj:
It is really disappointing to know you actual believe if an African American is running for president that the african Americn vote can get him elected.
My dear African Americans are only 12 to 14 percent of the voting population.
Many caucasian, hispanics, jewish and asian most vote in order for the Demorcat to win.
See the Republicans have fooled the nation by stating they are for family. Yet they send our family to an unjustifible accupation of Iraq.
They keep saying the government is too big but yet they expand the government every time they are in power.
Mr. Obama is an intelligent man, but what is good about him is he hires good people to work with. Also he is a listener.
Trust me if their is some dirt on Mr. Obama they would have came up with by now!
As you can see the right are self-righteous they believe in tearing people down. This is not war! This is just about the person who can make good decisions for the country.
If you really are a Republican why are you disassociating yourself from George Bush?
You should never run because someone is not good at what he does it does not show loyalty!
McClain should argue Bushes good point not run away from him!
Dusty: Please read the bible and have a dose of humility.
You are on this blog lying and hating if you are someone who believes in your faith then you would preclude from the name calling like Sean Hannity!
Oh I am catholic but I don’t respect people who do not agree with me!
By Night of the Long Knives
September 3, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this
Interesting contrast between the executive experience of Gov. Sarah Palin and the 140-day Senator from Illinois.
You’ll find the link here
By The Maverick
September 3, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this
Is it common practice for the dirty Democrats to divulge personal information like a Social Security number and personal phone number on a Vice Presidential candidate? Is that how the left wants to play this game?
So far as their comments about Lieberman (former Democrat turned Independent) being a paranah and annoying at the Republican convention, someone needs to shake the rocks in their heads and remind them that they had no problem with a Republican speaking at the Democrat convention.
Democrats are dirty, they play dirty, and they will go down on the White House this fall. They will have nobody to blame but themselves. Then we have this warning shot from some Democrat extremist Philadelphia Daily News columnist named Fatimah Ali:
“If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!”
So, those who do not believe and/or do not support Obama and quasi-socialist experiments are racists and will be dealt with accordingly. I certainly hope you good Americans out there for freedom are paying attention to this kind of rhetoric from the left, because the DNC main stream media sure as hell is not.
By haha
September 3, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
This story really doesn’t help! Its pictures of her underage daughter drinking WOW http://www.bossip.com/25563/booze-and-babies/#comments
By buster brown
September 3, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this
haha 1:26
haha…Picures resemble .. oh .. yea…..
Jenna and Barbara Bush
On another note …Any woman on this blog who cherishes her right to chose may want to read this…It’s quite sobering!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13103.html
By Rob
September 3, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
Yeah, I don’t understand about this boy Levi. He did something reckless, wrong - I think everyone would agree one of the worst things an aspiring young man should do - and he’s being rewarded with the national spotlight.
How am I supposed to explain that to my 14 year old son Mr. Wooten, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin?
By Rob
September 3, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
Yeah, I don’t understand about this boy Levi. He did something reckless, wrong and even immoral - I think everyone would agree one of the worst things an aspiring young man could do - and he’s being rewarded with the national spotlight.
How am I supposed to explain that to my 14 year old son Mr. Wooten, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin?
By @@
September 3, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
Dirty:
What is it McCain always reverts to when asked a difficult question?
Goes to character.
What is it OBlahMa always reverts to when asked a difficult question?
I was a community organizer who left the community bankrupt and Rezko rich.
Again, goes to character.
So THE ONE is UPYOURS!
By findog
September 3, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
Rangar, Sorry meant to separate the weatherman query from the next line. I do appreciate your consistent conservative line of thinking, which would preclude you from any association with the H word. I find I can develop a friendship with those I disagree with if they are consistent; that part of military service where I can disagree with what you say but be willing to die for your right to say it kind of mantra. As specialist within a professional field I can truly appreciate the fox and hedgehog theory, but to claim to be a proponent would be taking it a tad too far.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
September 3, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
This is a new low but we’ve come to expect behavior lower than whale feces from the Republinazi Party. They’ll parade this young sinner, at the end of a decorative shotgun, for all the world to see. Ridiculous! Shameful! Gov. Twinkie will make her less-than-inspiring acceptance speech tonight but she’ll be off the ticket within three weeks. The Republinazis are on their way to a monumental defeat. Wooten, how much do the Republinazis pay you to be a shameless lapdog?
By Rob in Decatur
September 3, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
Yeah, I don’t understand about this boy Levi. He did something reckless, wrong and even immoral - I think everyone would agree one of the worst things an aspiring young man should do - and he’s being rewarded with the national spotlight.
How am I supposed to explain that to my 14 year old son Mr. Wooten, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin?
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
Why do ALL repuke females smell like rotten fish when we all know they are too fat and ugly for any kind of sex requiring a man to touch them? Poor personal hygiene, or some required Repuke perfume?
By No MILF for VP
September 3, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
Embarrassingly unqualified. McCain has shown disrespect for our country by picking such a novice in a shameless attempt to court soccer moms.
New bumper sticker:
PALIN: MILF—YES, VP FOR OLD GEEZER—HELL NO!
By Fulton
September 3, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
I guess “family values” is just a catch-phrase and only applicable when conveniently needed… Again, the hypocrisy of it all!!
By Michael
September 3, 2008 1:59 PM | Link to this
Implicit in Mr. Wooten’s comments is this admission: the presence of the father is not a personal choice, but a calclated political decision of the McCain campaign. If so, their mistake (and I agree it is a mistake) contradicts the assertions that these kids are off limits for political criticism. When you pull a stunt like this, you make them fair game. I dread the day they turn 18 and the paparazzi go after them. I still believe Ms. Palin made a mistake putting her daughter in this situation.
By buster brown
September 3, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
By Ragnar Danneskjöld
September 3, 2008 1:34 PM
Is this the Mary Cheney who happens to be a lesbian?
The lesbian who has a child, but no rights!
The lesbian who supports gay marriage, and has a devoted partner, but can’t get married?
Issues the Democrats support..And you bring her up in your little soliloqy to your favorite queen Dusty…
I think you might be referring to her father “ELMER FUDD!”
Against all things gay, moral or otherwise just!
By No MILF for VP
September 3, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
Embarrassingly unqualified. McCain has shown disrespect for our country by picking such a novice in a shameless attempt to court soccer moms.
New bumper sticker:
PALIN: MILF—YES, VP FOR OLD GEEZER—HELL NO!
By Michael
September 3, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
Implicit in Mr. Wooten’s comments is this admission: the presence of the father is not a personal choice, but a calclated political decision of the McCain campaign. If so, their mistake (and I agree it is a mistake) contradicts the assertions that these kids are off limits for political criticism. When you pull a stunt like this, you make them fair game. I dread the day they turn 18 and the paparazzi go after them. I still believe Ms. Palin made a mistake putting her daughter in this situation.
By Peter
September 3, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
Hey this is interesting………….
By haha
September 3, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
This story really doesn’t help! Its pictures of her underage daughter drinking WOW http://www.bossip.com/25563/booze-and-babies/#comments
Ok now the question is………..
Is Bristol Pregnant and DRINKING……… ??????
Gosh there has been ZERO education……..Sarah Palin apparently taught her daughter zero about being a woman !
Time for another down syndrome Republican Baby !
By paliniswindowdressing
September 3, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
That’s the problem Ragnar, I don’t see your party doing any better than the people you say are not Christians. When are you going to stop hiding behind that veil of Christianity and start doing better. Time is getting short. Do you believe as I do in Christ. I will repeat myself, saying you are better than others don’t make it so. It’s all in your action, and from where I stand the democrats have your party licked. And trust me I did not mention the word Christian to imply that you were trying to do better than the rest of us. I called you that to show you, you are no better than the rest of us. I too am a Christian but I dont need a platform to preach from I live it in my heart everyday by the way I treat others. The same thing Obama and Biden has been trying to tell us all to do. I work with a lot of so called right-wing Christian and they have been evil and hateful for as long as I have worked here, so how is that trying to do better. Face it Christians are democrats and republicans, so stop judging, Christ will be the true judge of us all.
By Ga Razorback
September 3, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Captain Freedom @ 12:28…it appears that you are the ignorant one. Regarding the no blacks in Alaska comment: I’m black, lived in Alaska for 4 years, attended a predominantly black church there, and have aunts that have lived there for 30+ years. I worked at Merrill Lynch while there and of the 30 employees, 3 were black…if your math is as poor as your demographic knowledge, that equates to 10% at the brokerage house. Anchorage has two military bases that have plenty of blacks and if you need household names, Trajan Langdon & Carlos Boozer, (former Duke basketball players and Carlos just won gold for us in Beijing)are from Anchorage & Juneau respectively.
By GMAN
September 3, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
The “old geezer” has two months left so he chose to spend them with the “queen of the hillbillies”. Just what America needs, and old fart and a hillbilly tart!
Bush/McCain - Gambling with our children’s future!
By Suesweet
September 3, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
Let’s see. Barack brags about how successful his campaign has been; Palin talks about issues and getting things done. Barack has been nothing but a part time Senator and has missed more congress votes than he has made since announcing his candidacy; Palin has achieved real results that can be seen on paper and on record. Barack is running for the #1 slot; Palin for the #2 slot. There is no doubt who I am voting for in November. The very idea of how the Democrats are lashing out shows how scared and worried they are. And scared and worried they should be. They’ll have buyers remorse in November big time.
By Rusty
September 3, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
No Milf,Do you really want to start tossing around the word ‘unqualified’? What exactly is a ‘community organizer’? Please libs,Obama is the only one in this race who’s Not qualified for the office. Doomed AJC, get back in the gutter where you belong.
By Dusty trails
September 3, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
WEll, if Dr. Jack Wheeler says so, and Jim and j bm and Dustbusted say so, why do we even need an election? let’s deport Obama and coronate King John of the bottom 1% and Sarah the Sexy Librarian tomorrow night.
By Peter
September 3, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
Hey let’s get all the Republican kids who are drinking and having sex at 16 and 17 and show them at the Convention…….
Then the Republicans can really rally behind them all………
Getting married at 17 is the REPUBLICAN MANTRA !
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
Jim is still high on his RU486 cocktails from last night’s fancy, lobbiest paid political dinner….Yo, Stupid woodie, the hooker is supposed to take the RU486, not you….We really need basic sex education for these stupid repukes….
By haha
September 3, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
I think it comes down to if she has control over her personal life to take a position as demanding as this and if you look at those pictures the answer is no! Shes underage drinking and having sex and got pregnant while still in high school? She has failed as a parent and I don’t see how she can take a job when her family needs a lot of work! Makes you wonder whats more important!
By tcoach
September 3, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
Pleas someone tell me that there are not dem. supporters on here writing about rep. cheating on their wives. Do you recall JFK and Ms. Monroe, what about Bill and Monica. Or even better what about Mel Reynolds who was convicted of sexual assault of a 16yr old. That Bill Clinton pardoned him for.
By deegee
September 3, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
Assuming that the McCain campaign handlers fully vetted Sarah Palin’s public speaking ability, and they determined that she has the ability to knock one out of the park, as they say in the vernacular. Tomorrow morning the American people will know without question that the presumptive VP of the GOP is qualified because…she can give a good speech. Where have I heard that one before?
By Steve
September 3, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
Obama’s answer to the tough questions: UH,UH,UH,UH,UH,UH,UH,UH,UH,UH,UH
By CONSERVATIVE VOTER
September 3, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
“HYPOCRISY OF POLITICS” I GUESS THE OLD SAYING IS TRUE THERE ARE NO FRIENDS IN POLITICS JUST COMMON INTEREST”
JIM, YOU HAVE WRITTEN TOO MANY ARTICLES DEMONIZING THIS BEHAVIOR.
“IT’S NO BIG DEAL” - You are no longer THINKING RIGHT.
This is one Independent that will not vote for McCain/alin
Despite what Lieberman said about Obama last night - this is what he said in the 2006 primaries in CT:
Here”s Joe Lieberman praising Obama back in “06. This is more evidence that Joe has attached himself to McCain out of fear of being “left behind” in the Senate and not because he believes McCain is the right choice for President. (h/t Scarce) (Lamont)
“As far as I”m concerned [Barack Obama] is a “Baruch,” which means a blessing. He is a blessing to the United States Senate, to America, and to our shared hopes for better, safer tomorrows for all our families. The gifts that God has given to Barack Obama are as enormous as his future is unlimited. As his mentor, as his colleague, as his friend, I look forward to helping him reach to the stars and realize not just the dreams he has for himself, but the dreams we all have for him and our blessed country.”
By ByteMe
September 3, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
Jim Wooten, you wrote:
Having him here on her day is daring. He and the pregnant daughter become the dominant story of the day leading up to Governor Palin’s convention moment. It may make sense to the experts to get it all out of the way up-front. But to this PR amateur, it looks like a bad call.
There’s actually two bad calls that reveal a lot to me about the candidate Palin:
(1) what mother leaves a 4-month-old with Downs Syndrome in the care of others? I have a close friend who has a Downs daughter and it’s a HUGE amount of work over a healthy infant. Downs Syndrome children have significantly more health problems, anatomical defects, etc. than normal children. It’s a huge burden, one she obviously wanted, but now she’s going to spend the next two months on the campaign trail separated from her family? Does this sound like a “family values” mother — or father — to you?
(2) Why would you want to drag this 18-year-old self-described redneck guy further into the spotlight if the kids are supposedly off limits from criticism? She’s either using him as a distraction or … bad advice? Either way, my urge would be to protect my kids, not thrust them into the spotlight. Why isn’t that her urge?
By reebok
September 3, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
The McFossil campaign just threw a snit fit and declared that they would not entertain any more questions about their ‘nominee’ Palin. Yeah, that’s going to make everybody back off. Obama’s going to win 39 states and 370 electoral votes.
By dyldyl
September 3, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
Is it just me, or does the Republican National Converntion look like a retirment retreat for old white men.
By dyldyl
September 3, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this
Is it just me, or does the Republican National Converntion look like a retirment retreat for old white men.
By GimmeYoDolla
September 3, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this
By tdh
September 3, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this
the father of her baby.let us see if someone on fox news calls him her baby’s daddy.
If a teenage daughter of a democratic candidate were pregnant, you’d think it was an early Christmas at fox news- the home of “terror fist jabs”, “Barack’s baby mama drama” and statements by a political contributor that barack should be killed. Suddenly Fox News is acting as though the other networks aren’t playing fairly in their coverage of Palin.
By JW
September 3, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
CONSERVATIVE VOTER wrote
September 3, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
“As far as I”m concerned [Barack Obama] is a “Baruch,” which means a blessing. He is a blessing to the United States Senate, to America, and to our shared hopes for better, safer tomorrows for all our families. The gifts that God has given to Barack Obama are as enormous as his future is unlimited. As his mentor, as his colleague, as his friend, I look forward to helping him reach to the stars and realize not just the dreams he has for himself, but the dreams we all have for him and our blessed country.”Thank you so much. Most of your fellow conservatives have developed amenesia on a number of issues. I am glad it has not infected all.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
September 3, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
This is a new low but we’ve come to expect behavior lower than whale feces from the Republinazi Party. They’ll parade this young sinner, at the end of a decorative shotgun, for all the world to see. Ridiculous! Shameful! Gov. Twinkie will make her less-than-inspiring acceptance speech tonight but she’ll be off the ticket within three weeks. The Republinazis are on their way to a monumental defeat. Wooten, how much do the Republinazis pay you to be a shameless lapdog?
By BUSHWACKER
September 3, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
COMMON SENSE as far as dirt on OBAMA:
THE RACIST PREACHER WHO HATES WHITE AMERICA AND MENTORED BARRY. THE TERRORIST WHO BOMBED THE PENTAGON AND CITY HALL THE CONVICTED ASSOCIATE WHO BOUGHT OBAMA HIS MANSION. IF HE’S NOT MUSLIN WHY DID HE CHANGE HIS NAME FROM BARRY TO BARRACK?
And about PRESIDENT BUSH, history will show him as one of our greatest PRESIDENTS,he has freed 50 million people in IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN. He prosecuted the ceo’s behind the corporate scandals of the Clinton Administration. His tax cuts brought back and econmomy suffering from 911 and the corp scandals of the 90’s which EVERYONE BUT YOU knows caused in inflated stock market.
And let’s not mention the FACT that he told the dem gov of LOUISIANA to evacuate NO 5 days beforte Katrina, she and the moron of a mayor refused and hundreds died where this time a rep gov evacuated the city and loss of life was minimal.
One last thing, had the dems not been blocking drilling for oil for the last 15 years gas would around $2 a gallon and everything in grocery store would not have doubled in price, don’t forget the dems have controlled congress that last 2 years when gas and groceries have doubled in price!
Like Fred Thompson said of the democatically controlled congress, the least accomplished and lowest rated congress IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY!
All I can say is ‘HE IS NOT SO BLIND AS ONE WHO CHOOSES NOT TO SEE”.
By brenda
September 3, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
MORE OF THE SAME IN WASHINGTON
Bush girls/ Palin Girl. What’s the difference.
By @@@@
September 3, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
When will Jim write about McCain’s executive experience? Oh, that’s right, he doesn’t have any.
By brenda
September 3, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
MORE OF THE SAME IN WASHINGTON
Bush girls/ Palin Girl. What’s the difference.
By Bad Brad
September 3, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
On Oct. 27 at 9 a.m. I will reveal on the Web the identity of that leftist, bootleg Jon Stewart wannabe, political foreskin. You will be initially shocked, but then think to yourself, “Of course! Who else could (s)he have been?” Just bookmark this page www.politicalforeskinismikeluckovich.ca and tune in at the appointed hour.
By ron
September 3, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
I just read this afternoon that Mrs.Palin plans to make her youngest son the best traveled infant in history.She’s going to take him with her wherever she goes.This should calm the fears of those of you who wonder if this woman is going to care for her child.Apparently she is.
By Art
September 3, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this
Ten things you did not know about Sarawww.vpilf.com
By sharon
September 3, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Don’t Hate Obama’s mother was 18 and in college.
By Beowulf
September 3, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
As far as this notion that the children of candidates are not paid attention to - I seem to remember there being some flak about the private school the Clintons had Chelsea going to, and security etc. There is no problem with some media coverage of the family, we are paying for them to live in the mansion. Besides she (Bristol) would hardly be the first troublemaker. Amy Carter, anyone?
By tcoach
September 3, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
I thought that people on the left were for choice. I also thought that they were the ones who stand up for teen mothers and single moms. However after reading the post today it is clear that eventhough you are quick to call rep. hypocrites, you yourselves are hypocritical. If you were as enlightend and intellegent as you would have us all to believe you would be above having to throw the 17 yr old under the bus just so you could say haha to teh rep. All that shows this conservative independant is that you really do not care about issues you only care about winning an election. You lefties want an answer for this or that then answer this. Why should I vote for Obama, since I have insurance, I make enough money, I am married with a child, I am not nor am I going to be behind on my mortgage, and I do not think my happiness is determined by the governments ability to make me have a good life. So why should I a responsible person not wanting gov’t handouts vote for Obama?
By sharon
September 3, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
Don’t Hate Obama’s mother was 18 and in college.
By sharon
September 3, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
Don’t Hate Obama’s mother was 18 and in college.
By fearless fosdik
September 3, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
By tcoach 2:26 PM
T-Ball Coach,
You might like to get your facts straight!
Clinton commuted Reynolds for bank fraud. He didn’t pardon him for having sex with an underage campaign worker.
And to have to go back into the early 60’s to bring up JFK and Marilyn Monroe shows your desperation.
Stop…You’ll lose, I can off the top of my head list at least 10 republican perverts!
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
September 3, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this
Get ready to be underwhelmed! The Clampetts, with teenage fornicator Levi in tow, have arrived. It’s going to be entertaining to see Gov. Twinkie make her acceptance speech. Three weeks from now it will be even more entertaining to watch her withdrawal speech. McDunce is done and all you Republinazis know it. He’s an idiot and he’ll happily represent the idiot party all you Nazis belong to.
By Sean Cavity
September 3, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
Does anyone really believe tonight is a question mark in terms of Palin’s performance? Of course she will do well… she will do better than well, she will be OUTSTANDING. She’s speaking in front of “home fans”. They will lift her up. She could read the lyrics to “My Country Tis of Thee” and the crowd will be raucous. Her speech could consist of 5 words… Pro-Life, Samll Government & Reform and delegates will be standing on their heads and acting like she’s the second coming of Reagan. She has yet to hold a press conference, hasn’t visited a Sunday news show (and most likely will first grant an interview to Fox News) and hasn’t answered a single direct question. She’s an experienced public speaker who has surely moved people through her words in order to garner votes in her previous political victories. The chances or her failing on the stage tonight are equal to the chances of Lieberman being on the next Democratic ticket. Tonight is meaningless, much like any other choreographed prime time performance.
By Rumpled Foreskin
September 3, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
I support the McCain-Palin ticket. As a Barney-Cam addict, I cannot wait to upgrade to the Sled Team-Cam. The wankers Obama and Biden only have chickens for pets. And they only take them out to choke them.
By M Drake
September 3, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
Unconditional love of a child is commendable and I applaud the Palins for standing by their daughter during this difficult time. But parading your underage, unwed, pregnant daughter and her boyfriend in front of the nation is insane. He’s a high school drop out and she’s a mother-to-be who has yet to graduate. They are NOT role models to be proud of.
By dirty harry
September 3, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
By Beowulf @ 2:56
BEOWULF, and what would be the big trouble Amy Carter got into?
Oh, you mean the campus protest on South African racial separatism while attending Brown University.
Where she was put on probation .. Amy, you are SUCH a bad girl!
You have been arrested for demonstrations at the South African Embassy in Washington, the International Business Machines Corporation office in Providence, and at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst.
Or are there other such bones lurking in the closet I am unaware of?
I don’t think Bristol has the brains to attend Brown, or understand what Amy was demonstrating against…But, I doubt neither do you!
By mary
September 3, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
Ron, Thanks for your comment about Palin’s plan to make her son the best traveled infant in history by taking him with her everywhere she goes. After reading your comment, I feel better now. So what you are saying is that instead of having her Down Syndrome son who will need proper care in a stable home, in a stable school, in an area where he can visit stable doctors who will get to know him…. she’s going to parade him around America to exploit him like she’s exploiting her 17 year old daughter. Well your comment did it for me. For a minute I thought she lacked judgement. I guess I was wrong.
By mary
September 3, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
Ron, Thanks for your comment about Palin’s plan to make her son the best traveled infant in history by taking him with her everywhere she goes. After reading your comment, I feel better now. So what you are saying is that instead of having her Down Syndrome son who will need proper care in a stable home, in a stable school, in an area where he can visit stable doctors who will get to know him…. she’s going to parade him around America to exploit him like she’s exploiting her 17 year old daughter. Well your comment did it for me. For a minute I thought she lacked judgement. I guess I was wrong.
By Marco Polo
September 3, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Yeah and Bristol’s not as hot as Amy, either. I wonder whatever happened to Misty Malarky Ying-Yang.
By Churchill
September 3, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
Looks like Palin is part of the 4 more years bunch…
“The McCain team has hastily assembled a team of former Bush White House aides to tutor the vice-presidential candidate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, on foreign-policy issues, to write her speeches and to begin preparing her for her all-important Oct. 2 debate against Sen. Joe Biden.
“Steve Biegun, who once served as the No. 3 National Security Council official under Condoleezza Rice at the White House, has been hired as chief foreign-policy adviser to the Alaska governor, campaign officials told Newsweek… .
“Matt Scully, a former Bush White House speechwriter who helped draft some of the major foreign-policy addresses during the president’s first term, is working on Palin’s acceptance speech to the convention Wednesday night.
“Mark Wallace, a former lawyer for the Bush 2000 campaign who served in a variety of administration jobs including chief counsel at the Federal Emergency Management Agency and deputy ambassador to the United Nations, has been put in charge of ‘prep’ for the debate against Biden.
“Wallace’s wife, Nicolle Wallace, the former White House communications director, has taken over the same job for Palin.
“Tucker Eskew, another senior Bush White House communications aide, is serving as senior counselor to Palin’s operation.
“Douglas Holtz-Eakin, the former chief economist at the Council of Economic Advisers who has been serving as top economics guru for the McCain campaign, has moved over to serve as Palin’s chief domestic-policy adviser.”
By threedeep
September 3, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
Talk about this as much as you talked about Jeremiah Wright. You will not because you are hypocrite.
Actual videos all over you tube but amazingly they are starting to become “no longer available” I have to give it to the rethugs, you work fast. Can not wait for the hard hitting questions you give palin when she comes on your show. http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/aipfounderprofessedhatredf.php Founder Of Group Palin Courted Professed “Hatred For The American Government”; Cursed “Damn Flag” By Greg Sargent - September 2, 2008, 6:10PM The founder of the Alaska Independence Party — a group that has been courted over the years by Sarah Palin, and one her husband was a member of for roughly seven years — once professed his “hatred for the American government” and cursed the American flag as a “damn flag.”
The AIP founder, Joe Vogler, made the comments in 1991, in an interview that’s now housed at the Oral History Program in the Rasmuson Library at the University of Alaska, Fairbanks.
“The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government,” Vogler said in the interview, in which he talked extensively about his desire for Alaskan secession, the key goal of the AIP.
“And I won’t be buried under their damn flag,” Vogler continued in the interview, which also touched on his disappointment with the American judicial system. “I’ll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home.”
At another point, Volger advocated renouncing allegiance to the United States. In the course of denouncing Federal regulation over land, he said:
“And then you get mad. And you say, the hell with them. And you renounce allegiance, and you pledge your efforts, your effects, your honor, your life to Alaska.”
You can listen to audio of the relevant section of the Volger interview here. Bill Schneider, curator of oral history at the library, verified the authenticity of the interview and the quote to me a few moments ago.
Palin has courted the group over the years.
Three years after the controversial interview, in 1994, Palin attended the group’s annual convention, according to witnesses who spoke to ABC News’ Jake Tapper. The McCain campaign is disputing her presence there, but Tapper found two people to attest to it.
The McCain campaign today produced Palin’s voting registration records, and said they proved she was never a member of the party.
But she has repeatedly reached out to the group. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group’s 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an incumbent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Constitution of the United States.
Palin’s husband, Todd Palin, was a member of the party from 1995-2002 with a brief exception in 2000.
It’s worth noting that Vogler isn’t just some figure from ancient history. He is still being hailed on AIP’s site this year, the same year Palin addressed the group’s convention.
It’s worth pondering how big a deal it would be if Obama had ever courted the support of a group whose head had said this kind of thing about America and her flag. Oh, wait…
By Devastator
September 3, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
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By @@
September 3, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Alright, I’ve read it too many times here. I’ve heard it too many times in the media.
Please!!!!
Governor Palin’s son is a child with Downs Syndrome.
Governor Palin’s son is not a Downs Syndrome child.
Young Trig will define his syndrome.
Young Trig’s syndrome will not define him.
Each child with Downs Syndrome is unique in themselves.
Dammit people! Why are you so quick to surrender a child to their disability rather than encourage them in their abilities?
I hate that!!!!!
Now…….blog on.
By fearless fosdik
September 3, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this
By tcoach
September 3, 2008 2:56 PM
No tcoach…It’s what is called hypocrisy!
The party of intolerance now has to try and be tolerable!
Like Bill Bennett who bloviated forever on virtues. Even wrote a book on the topic…then the ceiling fell in when it was discovered that ol Bill was not so virtuous! Losing close to $8 Million dollars gambling….
You reap what you sow!
By Devastator
September 3, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
@@,
I was wondering what media discussion would finally set you off. Now I know.
For a minute, I wasn’t sure if you had a heart.
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
September 3, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
Let’s hear it for Track,Trig and Trollop.
By ga voter
September 3, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
Well, at least Brittany Spear’s sister has or had a job to support her baby but what will Palin’s daughter do? Maybe momma will raise the child, or she will just get a job, but it dont look good for momma for her to get medicaid.
By crazy eddie
September 3, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
What in the hell kind of person names their children?
“bristol, piper, willow, track and trig???”
By ATL80
September 3, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this
The baby’s father had to show up. It is tradition that the entire family appear on stage after the speech and shots of them watching are usually shown. If he were not there questions would arise that he doesn’t want to marry her. If she’s not there either it looks like they are hiding her. This makes them look like a big close-knit family which is just what the GOP wants. I wonder if the oldest son will be allowed leave from the military?
By glenn
September 3, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
@@ take a chill pill. Ok the words were mixed up. NOW WHAT. Dang…….just chill out.
By Captain Freedom
September 3, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
Well, THE Captain can admit when He is wrong, but it appears Jesse Helms was right. If there really are blacks in Alaska, then there is no place left that is not about to be taken over by Those People. Pretty soon you won’t be able to park your dog sled without an anti-theft device.
All the more reason to vote Republican. Right Dusty?
By glenn
September 3, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
@@ take a chill pill. Ok the words were mixed up. NOW WHAT. Dang…….just chill out.
By Truthifier
September 3, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
The McCain campaign has criticized Obama for being “unknown” to voters:
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/Read.aspx?guid=52b5d026-2e12-4294-afbf-83faaf47a4c9
Yet, the voters are expected to accept a political unknown for Vice President? I am really having trouble following the GOP logic on this one.
By I'm that baby's Pappy
September 3, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
That’s just my baby Daddy!
By Bud Wiser
September 3, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
ByteMe, hope the migraines are better. There was no problem with what you previously referenced about this Dr Jack Wheeler I cited. The more I delve into what I can find, the more it appears, at least to me, that he is a shill and a huckster along the lines of Limbaugh…..he’s in it for the money.
Bookman I presume has permanently blocked me, because none of my posts last more than a minute or two. I admit that what I was doing at the time was a bit ‘colorful’, but what he did in response was reprehensible. I have always approached this as a ‘big game’ anyway, and everyone else here is playing their chosen roles as well. Perhaps I was in error.
He publicized the fact that I was doing multiple personalities from the same IP site, and actually gave out my ID’s to his readers. This is a clear and somber violation of a most basic journalistic ethos, about revealing sources, or in my case, ID’s. It shows how control (of a web site) can be abused to fashion the ideology of the publisher. Yeah, yeah, I know all this crap about the fact that it is his site, and it is a privilege to be able to communicate with others on it; but when a PUBLIC FORUM such as a blog has been established, any practice of censorship (other than the obvious use of foul language or threats) the enlightening to the audience of certain principals identification violates the basic reason this forum was established in the first place.
Everyone here operates under the blanket of anonymity, a protection if you will, which Bookman threw to the wind, without giving reasons. I am sure that the only reason he does not publish my IP or name (he knows who I am) is because I would probably have a very nice and tidy law suit on his and the principle operators desks of AJC electronic by the next morning. A man with no ethical operations in his chosen career is not to be trusted for anything. Ethics are what you do when no one else is looking, right or wrong…Bookman violated his professional ethics, therefore I also assume his private ethics are equally as valueless.
If Bookman didn’t like what I was saying, he could have handled it in a variety of ways to communicate to me to ‘stop it’, instead he chose to violate ethics, then bans me anyway. I called him out on it of course, but he has yet to respond.
I did thank him for proving one of my points however, about one of the basic principles of liberalism, and that is the way some of these media creeps in particular like Bookman infer that he is protecting people from my portrayal I was running, thereby implying that he is ‘smarter’ than some of his readers, but he will be magnanimous and ‘protect’ them, because they are not smart enough to defend themselves.
He hasn’t responded to that one either.
I will be posting here occasionally, and on Bookman’s just to irritate him (he’ll cut it), but changes lately in my personal life means that I will be doing this less than before. Uh, I have work to do
Take care ByteMe and others, and I’ll be talking to you soon again in lively debates, I hope!
By Michael
September 3, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
I suspect Mrs. Palin wants her daughter and the father of her grandchild present on Wednesday night so she can keep a watchful eye on them. Mrs. Palin doesn’t want either of them to get into anymore trouble. The Palin family is already the laughingstock of the nation. Any other scandals could be too much for Senator McCain to handle.
By joy
September 3, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Captain Freedom,
Since Alaska will need anti-theft devices because the black are moving in, I’ll assume they already have a great sexual predator list for the Whites…….since most sexual predators are White. I rather leave my car in a Black neighborhood than leave my child in a White neighborhood.
By joy
September 3, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Captain Freedom,
Since Alaska will need anti-theft devices because the black are moving in, I’ll assume they already have a great sexual predator list for the Whites…….since most sexual predators are White. I rather leave my car in a Black neighborhood than leave my child in a White neighborhood.
By Jay Black
September 3, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
So, CwnBt, who should be held accountable for this screw-up (because it is a screw up)? Why, Sarah Palin of course! Because she’s ultra conservative with a pregnant 17 year old daughter that drinks. And if she can’t control her family, how can she run the country when McCain croaks?
By Jay Black
September 3, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
So, CwnBt, who should be held accountable for this screw-up (because it is a screw up)? Why, Sarah Palin of course! Because she’s ultra conservative with a pregnant 17 year old daughter that drinks. And if she can’t control her family, how can she run the country when McCain croaks?
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
Well, as Father Jim said, if she had just stuck to but sex, this preggers thing would not have happened….
By hotlanta
September 3, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
Well the Palin’s has outdone Obama. Obama wanted to give his daughters 8 and 10 years old a dog to take to the White house once he gets elected. 17 year old Bristol is giving her mom a grandbaby to take to the White House once she is elected. Can’t top that Obama.
By hotlanta
September 3, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
Well the Palin’s has outdone Obama. Obama wanted to give his daughters 8 and 10 years old a dog to take to the White house once he gets elected. 17 year old Bristol is giving her mom a grandbaby to take to the White House once she is elected. Can’t top that Obama.
By EJ
September 3, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
You got that right Michael.
One more scandal will throw grandpa into cardiac arrest. The the beauty queen, oops, I mean the governor can continue the campaign between running her household. Campaigning for the 3 people in Alaska should qualify her to campaign for millions of Americans.
By EJ
September 3, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
You got that right Michael.
One more scandal will throw grandpa into cardiac arrest. The the beauty queen, oops, I mean the governor can continue the campaign between running her household. Campaigning for the 3 people in Alaska should qualify her to campaign for millions of Americans.
By Common Sense
September 3, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this
Bush-whacker I see you smoke the big ones a lot.
If I recall the government does not controll the stock market. 1. Bush did not prosecute anyone Enron,World Com those done in by democratic prosecutors.
3 If we left would they still have their freedom?
Mr. Bush made bad decisions just like John McClain does?
What about the corporate scandals going on right now!
What is the Bush Adminstration doing about the credit crisis? Housing crisis? fuel crisis?
First do your homework loser the REPUBLICANS HAD THE CONGRESS FOR 14 years and did not about the energy problems. So in 2 yrs the DEMOCRATS who have a 1 person majority is suppose to wave the magic wand and make it all right!
Can you prove Mr. Obama that he is muslim? Is their anything wrong with being a muslim?
JUST STOP LYING ALL THE TIME!
By BS Aplenty
September 3, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
I’m not sure I agree with you on this one, Jim.
The Palins are quintessentially American on this issue of premaritial sex and subsequent out-of-wedlock births. There’s nothing new here unless you’re a sexual deviant like some of our leftist friends on the blog (THE Captain may stand). And, certainly, there’s nothing to hide - either Bristol & Levi or young Trig.
What’s important to MOST Americans is the Palin’s response to these altogether normal, if unexpected, events. Here, the family passes with flying colors. They have family issues and they’ve resolved them well in the eyes of ALL thinking Americans. For that reason, the inclusion of the entire Palin family is wholly acceptable to this conservative.
By @@
September 3, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
For a minute, I wasn’t sure if you had a heart.
That surprises me coming from you Devastator.
If you were in doubt, let me make it perfectly clear.
The whole of my heart is invested in children.
The hole in my heart can be attributed to irresponsible adults.
There
now
blog on.
By Van
September 3, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
This whole Palin thing is a joke. Picking here was a gift to Obama. Biden is going to shred her in the debate.
And I am not buying the whole “We are so proud of our pregnant daughter” bit. You show me one parent who, upon hearing that their unmarried teenage daughter is pregnant, is proud.
Palin and the Republican party’s spin on this whole pregnant kid thing only proves they are still not ready to get real and face reality. Imagine how they will spin other issues once in office, just like the current administration.
I would respect Palin more if she just came clean and said that the whole situation sucks.
By fearless fosdik
September 3, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
Ah…The hits just keep on coming ..
Picture in the ajc of McCain talking to JETHRO er I mean Levi….
Jethro, If you find a rich beer heiress use your head man! Ticket to paradise, Houses untold, private jet..Look at me, fat ol guy of 72 and except for 5 years as a POW…I’m now living like a king!
The BIGGEST INDICTMENT OF THEM ALL ….
BUSH..Stating Last night “McCain Was Best to “Carry Forth His Agenda!”
Pretty much sums up the fact that a vote for
McCain = 4 more years of Bush!
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this
Sarah has cellulite all over her but and legs, just ask any lumber jack in alaska, they have seen more than they wanted to, up close and personal…..
By Algonquin J. Calhoun
September 3, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
george W. Hitler has killed many more people than Saddam Hussein ever dreamed of. He’s a liar, thief, murderer and the biggest embarrassment to ever steal an election. The only person he’s liberated is the miscreant Scooter Libby. He did that so Libby wouldn’t rat his sorry a* out. The Republinazis are hitting new lows with the Clampetts and the prisoner they’re throwing the shotgun wedding for. These people are tundra scum! Gov. Twinkie won’t last til election day. She’ll have to take Trak, Trig and Trollop back to the land of Polar Bears and, I hope, keep them there.
By TW
September 3, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
It’s official! The Jerry Springer Show will be turning The Palins into a series!
By Peter
September 3, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
HA HA HA………By BS Aplenty
“The Palins are quintessentially American on this issue of premaritial sex and subsequent out-of-wedlock births. There’s nothing new here unless you’re a sexual deviant like some of our leftist friends on the blog……….”
The Palin’s daughter is the sexual deviant……….and at an early AGE……gosh the stuff Republicans SPIN ON !
Sex at 16 …..Yes that is ALL American like a GOOD REPUBLICAN !
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
Thirst work, this beating repukes senseless, but a job well worth doing. No thanks necessary, I really enjoy my work….
By TheRealLife
September 3, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
tcoach,
It’s the Hypocrisy STUPID.
The Repulican platform, the last few elections, has been about how they are the MORAL Gatekeepers. Sarah only wants abstinence taught in school. Wooten, writes at least an article each week about unwed mothers. But he apparently gives the OK to this young couple, who had sex outside of marriage, created a baby and now will get married.
The Christian - so called RIGHT, must really be in the dumps about President Bush, because they are truly showing how irrelevant they are in this election.
This is not about BRISTOL, it’s about the Republican and Sarah Palin’s platform. It’s about teaching Abstinence ONLY in our schools. It’s about decreasing the number of unplanned pregnancies. It’s about helping teenage women who find themselves in similar situations. In the past, they have been demonized and support by the Republicans has been seriously lacking.
The Republicans just don’t seem to get it. They want to tell us that if Bristol and Levi get married, their lives will magically improve.
The real life story here is that if Bristol’s mom and dad were regular $45,000 year household, like most, her future would not be looking very good in this economy. She might not have medical insurance, money for diapers, milk and their house might be in foreclosure.
By TheRealLife
September 3, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
tcoach,
It’s the Hypocrisy STUPID.
The Repulican platform, the last few elections, has been about how they are the MORAL Gatekeepers. Sarah only wants abstinence taught in school. Wooten, writes at least an article each week about unwed mothers. But he apparently gives the OK to this young couple, who had sex outside of marriage, created a baby and now will get married.
The Christian - so called RIGHT, must really be in the dumps about President Bush, because they are truly showing how irrelevant they are in this election.
This is not about BRISTOL, it’s about the Republican and Sarah Palin’s platform. It’s about teaching Abstinence ONLY in our schools. It’s about decreasing the number of unplanned pregnancies. It’s about helping teenage women who find themselves in similar situations. In the past, they have been demonized and support by the Republicans has been seriously lacking.
The Republicans just don’t seem to get it. They want to tell us that if Bristol and Levi get married, their lives will magically improve.
The real life story here is that if Bristol’s mom and dad were regular $45,000 year household, like most, her future would not be looking very good in this economy. She might not have medical insurance, money for diapers, milk and their house might be in foreclosure.
By TheRealLife
September 3, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
tcoach,
It’s the Hypocrisy STUPID.
The Repulican platform, the last few elections, has been about how they are the MORAL Gatekeepers. Sarah only wants abstinence taught in school. Wooten, writes at least an article each week about unwed mothers. But he apparently gives the OK to this young couple, who had sex outside of marriage, created a baby and now will get married.
The Christian - so called RIGHT, must really be in the dumps about President Bush, because they are truly showing how irrelevant they are in this election.
This is not about BRISTOL, it’s about the Republican and Sarah Palin’s platform. It’s about teaching Abstinence ONLY in our schools. It’s about decreasing the number of unplanned pregnancies. It’s about helping teenage women who find themselves in similar situations. In the past, they have been demonized and support by the Republicans has been seriously lacking.
The Republicans just don’t seem to get it. They want to tell us that if Bristol and Levi get married, their lives will magically improve.
The real life story here is that if Bristol’s mom and dad were regular $45,000 year household, like most, her future would not be looking very good in this economy. She might not have medical insurance, money for diapers, milk and their house might be in foreclosure.
By Bristol
September 3, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
Well, I’m already pregnant! What more shennanigans can I get into?
By Captain Freedom
September 3, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
BS Aplenty,
There is nothing in THE Captain’s bag of peculiar proclivities that could not be normalized by naming Him as the GOP veep. It is the instant anti-deviance innoculation. It doesn’t change the behavior, just the standard for judgement. Just nominate, and VOILA!!! All your sins become virtues.
It is one of the reasons THE Captain is a Godly Republican. Redemption is always ready at hand.
By Slotl
September 3, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
Is parading a “baby daddy” McCain’s way of appealing to the younger generation?
What message is this sending to the youth of America? Without proper sex education it is ok to have pre-marital sex without protection AS LONG AS YOU MARRY THE GUY?
By AJC is DOOMED
September 3, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
Just think, next year the little vixen can legally appear on “Girls gone Wild.” This tape will be called “Bristol Gone Wild.”
By Ga Razorback
September 3, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this
Captain Freedom, I must concur with your assessment about Those People taking over. It is mindsets like yours and your late friend Jesse Helms that are the catalysts for ensuring that Those People’s next conquest is the White House.
By Paul
September 3, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this
What I read from the libs in this blog is a bunch of viciousness and namecalling which reflects PANIC.
Palin is a real person, virtues and flaws included, and she scares the libs to death. I am sure that she wishes her daughter was not pregnant, but this is the point of a true right to lifer- you assume responsibility for your actions.
Remember, those who are screeching about these 17-year olds being forced to marry- despite the absense of evidence of coersion- would prefer that they murder the baby.
By Mid-South Philosopher
September 3, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
Good late afternoon, Jim.
I am continuing to do my part in trying to shore up the “Bush Economy.”
With regard to Bristol Palin, and the idiot media’s obsession with the fact that she is pregnant out of wedlock and somehow that is an indictment of her mother’s stand on abortion and the right to life, my take is this. If the Mid-South Philosopher’s old man and mother had, had to be responsible for his deportment in the spring of his youth, they would have been tethered with the “Scarlett Letter” or worse. These pious media mogols and devout Democrats should spend a little time cleaning-up their own houses before they go after someone else.
A blight on them all!
By Captain Freedom
September 3, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
THE Captain arrives with great news. McCain campaign honcho Rick Davis has confirmed that the speech written specifically for the VP nominee has been re-written to tone down the masculine tone. Because it was written, you see, before the speech writers knew who would deliver it.
So there are no worries tonight. Sarah Plain is an experienced on-air personality, just like Willard Scott but not all fat and stuff. Her mad teleprompter skillz will serve her well, and all of America will at last know just what kind of woman will sit a faint, skipping heartbeat away from the Oval Office.
Yes indeed, just another straight talking mavericky Republican who speaks from the heart. Just not necessarily her heart.
Supporting the Old White Guy and his foxy Sock Puppet. It is the Right Thing to do.
By catlady
September 3, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this
Last night I figured out how Palin got the vp nod. Months ago, when McCain became the putative (see Spanish—puta=w*******) GOP candidate, he told “his people” to create a database containing every eligible Republican leader, from big city mayor on up. Then, they were to conduct reasearch on each one and assign scores to a hundred different variables, such as 2 points for being a veteran, 4 points for being a POW, 10 points for having a close family member in Iraq or Afganistan, 2 points for being a long-time NRA member, etc. What put Sarah “over the top” was the relative rarity that she could PROVE she was anti-abortion, due to the birth of her handicapped son. Many of the men are mad that she could hold that trump card, because while they could SAY they were anti-abortion, and might be able to show speeches or votes to “prove” their anti-abortion credentials, except for clinic-bombers, mothers of handicapped children had the inside track on the points that go with that belief. That she is well-spoken and good looking didn’t hurt. I think that is how she “got the call” over some other stronger, much more experienced possible candidates.
By findog
September 3, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this
The issue is that the first daughter of Alaska is not getting married until after the birth because she would be off of the Governor’s medical insurance benefits so Bristol and Levi start out with a government freebee.
That flies in the face of two GOP stances.
First is personal responsibility and not counting on the government to bail you out.
The second is that health care in America should be based on a market driven solutions and not government based coverage.
It is not that there is an unmarried pregnant teen of a politician (either party) it is that they a scamming the insurance industry for coverage.
By catlady
September 3, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this
Last night I figured out how Palin got the vp nod. Months ago, when McCain became the putative (see Spanish—puta=w*******) GOP candidate, he told “his people” to create a database containing every eligible Republican leader, from big city mayor on up. Then, they were to conduct reasearch on each one and assign scores to a hundred different variables, such as 2 points for being a veteran, 4 points for being a POW, 10 points for having a close family member in Iraq or Afganistan, 2 points for being a long-time NRA member, etc. What put Sarah “over the top” was the relative rarity that she could PROVE she was anti-abortion, due to the birth of her handicapped son. Many of the men are mad that she could hold that trump card, because while they could SAY they were anti-abortion, and might be able to show speeches or votes to “prove” their anti-abortion credentials, except for clinic-bombers, mothers of handicapped children had the inside track on the points that go with that belief. That she is well-spoken and good looking didn’t hurt. I think that is how she “got the call” over some other stronger, much more experienced possible candidates.
By Captain Freedom
September 3, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this
Even better news for the GOP ‘Faithful’…
Since the speech that was written for Muff Romney is now going to be delivered by Sarah Plain, they have removed all the groveling and apologizing for Mormontology and replaced it with lots of heartwarming stories about pre-Marital Family values and the importance of Abstinence Only and Creationist Education.
Good times!
By Jim Wooten
September 3, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
Late afternoon greetings to Mid-South, catlady, Captain Freedom and others. Never let work interfere with the obligation to educate. There’ve been some good discussions here recently — including one the day Sarah Palin was chosen that almost never wandered off topic. Thanks for being here..
By catlady
September 3, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
Last night I figured out how Palin got the vp nod. Months ago, when McCain became the putative (see Spanish—puta=w*******) GOP candidate, he told “his people” to create a database containing every eligible Republican leader, from big city mayor on up. Then, they were to conduct reasearch on each one and assign scores to a hundred different variables, such as 2 points for being a veteran, 4 points for being a POW, 10 points for having a close family member in Iraq or Afganistan, 2 points for being a long-time NRA member, etc. What put Sarah “over the top” was the relative rarity that she could PROVE she was anti-abortion, due to the birth of her handicapped son. Many of the men are mad that she could hold that trump card, because while they could SAY they were anti-abortion, and might be able to show speeches or votes to “prove” their anti-abortion credentials, except for clinic-bombers, mothers of handicapped children had the inside track on the points that go with that belief. That she is well-spoken and good looking didn’t hurt. I think that is how she “got the call” over some other stronger, much more experienced possible candidates.
By Dusty
September 3, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this
Ah… dear Captain of the Moral Mimics,5:02
Unfortunately, you are not of the Republicans roundabout who advocate redemption, resuscitation, remarkability and the payment of mortgages on their own. Many even like cornbread better than crepes. True virtue in action!!
The shots for peculiar proclivities of many kinds have been discontinued ever since they did not work for Clinton’s proclivity.
So bear up. You will not be nominated for VP even in Cynthia McKinney’s Green not Pink Party.
But there is good news for you. Rabies shots are stil AOK. Since dancing with wolves is your favorite pastime, Dr. Phil & I suggest you hasten to the med shop. Pronto!
With all good care and concern for your cavalier consitution,
Your friendly advisor,
Dusty
By Hey Jim
September 3, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this
Look who’s the celebrity now! I’ll bet anything ‘Sarah Palin’ has been googled 10 times more than Obama in the last 4 days. Guess I can’t vote for her now….she’s more popular than Obama.
By catlady
September 3, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this
Y’know, people are jumping on Ms. Palin and her apparent overarching ambition, but I have to wonder: why on Earth would MR. Palin allow his pregnant, unmarried, teenaged daughter to be dragged out as Example A of what a fine family they are. I mean, we are blaming the mama, but in a good Republican Christian family isn’t it the MAN who wears the pants, who makes the decisions for the family???
By catlady
September 3, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this
Y’know, people are jumping on Ms. Palin and her apparent overarching ambition, but I have to wonder: why on Earth would MR. Palin allow his pregnant, unmarried, teenaged daughter to be dragged out as Example A of what a fine family they are. I mean, we are blaming the mama, but in a good Republican Christian family isn’t it the MAN who wears the pants, who makes the decisions for the family???
By ron
September 4, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
Good morning,this fine morning,Some speech last night.I mean Romney’s.I heard it described as “borderline insane”.
By dw
September 4, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
To Tomhere,
Yeah. LIBERALS don’t have any agenda. They are just looking out for everyone. NOT!!! When have FUNDAMENTALIST ideas been shoved down your throat, such that you couldn’t/didn’t do what you wanted to do? As for our laws, some basic ones come from Biblical ideas. Thou shalt not kill - murder. Thou shalt not steal - theft. Some pretty good ideas, don’t you think. Or maybe you don’t???
By NoMoBS
September 4, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Sarah Palin’s “husband” is obviously not very much of a man at all.
Currently the first b* of Alaska, and looking very forward to become possibly the second b* of the U.S.
How about raising your daughter better “daddy” (and momma for that matter).
Zombies keep your retorts, no one cares. My teen daughter ain’t pregnant and ain’t ABOUT TO BE before she is a consenting, capable and hopefully married adult! Period.
Why? Because my wife and I are putting in the TIME like we should.
Suck on that hypocrites.
By COMMUNITY "ORGANIZER"
September 4, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this
The ANSWER is: Barry Bonds, Mike Vick and Barack Hussein Obama
The QUESTION: Name 3 criminal liars who belong in prison.
By SaveOurRepublic
September 4, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
As I stated yesterday, Palin is “Juan McAmnasty’s” gimmick selection to offset “Bacrock Obummer’s” minority/diversity/PC BS factor. She’s no doubt another Neocon and will serve her Globalist Elite ma$ters just as McAmnasty & Obummer will faithfully do.
Regarding Palin’s daughter’s situation, it’s about accountability. She and this lad have spawned a child, so they need to take full responsibility for it. Marriage is the honorable thing to do (irregardless of what the selfish humanists might think). It’s not about Bristol or her fiancee’s future, etc., it is about the child’s best interest, and that is being raised by a mother and father. I think they’ve made the best choice given the situation (& irregardless of Gov.Palin’s Globalist pawn status).
By AJC is DOOMED
September 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
I am suprised Levi didn’t put a large rolled up sock in his pants for his tv appearence….you just can’t buy publicity like that, the old repuke ladies would have been lined up like flies outside his hotel room.
By GMAN
September 4, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
As we watch the continuing saga of “The Washington Hillbillies”, we ponder on these facts…
PALIN: “I have protected the taxpayers by vetoing wasteful spending … and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. I told the Congress ‘thanks but no thanks’ for that Bridge to Nowhere.” THE FACTS: As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a “bridge to nowhere.”
PALIN: “There is much to like and admire about our opponent. But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform — not even in the state senate.” THE FACTS: Compared to McCain and his two decades in the Senate, Obama does have a more meager record. But he has worked with Republicans to pass legislation that expanded efforts to intercept illegal shipments of weapons of mass destruction and to help destroy conventional weapons stockpiles. The legislation became law last year. To demean that accomplishment would be to also demean the work of Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, a respected foreign policy voice in the Senate. In Illinois, he was the leader on two big, contentious measures in Illinois: studying racial profiling by police and requiring recordings of interrogations in potential death penalty cases. He also successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform legislation.
PALIN: “The Democratic nominee for president supports plans to raise income taxes, raise payroll taxes, raise investment income taxes, raise the death tax, raise business taxes, and increase the tax burden on the American people by hundreds of billions of dollars.” THE FACTS: The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama’s plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain’s plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded. Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks, mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families. He also would raise income taxes, capital gains and dividend taxes on the wealthiest. He would raise payroll taxes on taxpayers with incomes above $250,000, and he would raise corporate taxes. Small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise.
MCCAIN: “She’s been governor of our largest state, in charge of 20 percent of America’s energy supply … She’s responsible for 20 percent of the nation’s energy supply. I’m entertained by the comparison and I hope we can keep making that comparison that running a political campaign is somehow comparable to being the executive of the largest state in America,” he said in an interview with ABC News’ Charles Gibson. THE FACTS: McCain’s phrasing exaggerates both claims. Palin is governor of a state that ranks second nationally in crude oil production, but she’s no more “responsible” for that resource than President Bush was when he was governor of Texas, another oil-producing state. In fact, her primary power is the ability to tax oil, which she did in concert with the Alaska Legislature. And where Alaska is the largest state in America, McCain could as easily have called it the 47th largest state — by population.
MCCAIN: “She’s the commander of the Alaska National Guard. … She has been in charge, and she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities,” he said on ABC. THE FACTS: While governors are in charge of their state guard units, that authority ends whenever those units are called to actual military service. When guard units are deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan, for example, they assume those duties under “federal status,” which means they report to the Defense Department, not their governors. Alaska’s national guard units have a total of about 4,200 personnel, among the smallest of state guard organizations.
FORMER ARKANSAS GOV. MIKE HUCKABEE: Palin “got more votes running for mayor of Wasilla, Alaska than Joe Biden got running for president of the United States.” THE FACTS: A whopper. Palin got 616 votes in the 1996 mayor’s election, and got 909 in her 1999 re-election race, for a total of 1,525. Biden dropped out of the race after the Iowa caucuses, but he still got 76,165 votes in 23 states and the District of Columbia where he was on the ballot during the 2008 presidential primaries.
FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOV. MITT ROMNEY: “We need change, all right — change from a liberal Washington to a conservative Washington! We have a prescription for every American who wants change in Washington — throw out the big-government liberals, and elect John McCain and Sarah Palin.” THE FACTS: A Back-to-the-Future moment. George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.
It is quite obvious that the GOP thinks they can sell Jed & Granny to the American People. But although the Grand OLD Party acts like Milburn Drysdales & Jane Hatthaways, we the people of the United States refuse to be fooled!
Bush/McCain - Gambling away our children’s futures!