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Same old class warfare in this race

The national referendum on class warfare and the debate whether “change” is anything more than yesterday’s failed ideas kicks off this weekend with the gathering of Democrats to anoint the country’s savior.

That, presumably, is Barack Obama, though the cautious observer does not discount the possibility that Bill and Hill will seize the show.

Leading up to it, Democrats were convinced they’d found the bumper sticker/sound bite that would cause the unwashed masses to recoil in horror at the notion that a rich man could be president of the United States.

The sound bite was an interview John McCain gave Politico.com in which he appeared to be uncertain how many houses he and wife Cindy own. “I think — I’ll have my staff get to you,” he said. “It’s condominiums where — I’ll have them get to you.”

It was the gotcha moment for desperate Democrats, sound-bite evidence that McCain is either befuddled or out of touch with ordinary Americans. The Obama campaign rushed to capitalize. “If you’re like me, and you’ve got one house, or you are like the millions of people who are struggling right now to keep up with their mortgage so they don’t lose their home, you might have a different perspective,” said Obama, who occupies a $1.65 million mansion in Chicago.

The wealth of the McCains is not in dispute. Cindy McCain is a highly regarded business executive who managed an inherited beer distributorship to a value estimated at $100 million. She, or they, own single-family homes or condos in Arizona, California and Virginia.

But, then, by the standards of those of us who draw paychecks, all the candidates offered for the presidency, Democrat and Republican, are rich — or live the lifestyles of the rich, with the possible exception of Mike Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas. The Clintons, Bill and Hillary, have made more than $109 million since leaving the White House eight years ago.

The young, at least those who are convinced that in this year’s race they have found the post-partisan consensus-builder, should take note of what is happening.

In the generations before you, Democrats routinely won office by scaring the old folks into believing that Republicans intended to take or diminish their Social Security. They win office too by scaring minorities into believing Republicans intend to take or diminish their opportunities.

Their success is built on fright, on feeding the fear that somebody else — “the rich” — got or will take wealth, power or privilege that rightly belongs to somebody more deserving. You.

Obama, in that regard, is just another of a long line of class-warfare Democrats. Politics as usual.

Two trends are of concern, though.

A growing percentage of the country is beginning to walk away from any income tax obligation to pay for the bigger government they advocate. According to the Washington-based Tax Foundation, 41 percent of the U.S. population is totally outside the income tax system. Since 2000, the number of filers with zero tax obligation has grown from 29 million to 42 million. Only 90.6 million of the 132.6 million returns filed in 2005 paid taxes. The rest got back all they’d paid in, or more.

We don’t mind more government — if you’re paying, and especially if those who pay got “my share” of the nation’s wealth through $4 gas and high fees on subprime mortgages.

The other concern is that unmarrieds could be a majority of the population within 15 years, according to research done earlier this year by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner. Unmarried women favor Democrats by a 70-24 margin, they found.

And while the good news for McCain supporters is that Obama really does not wear well — doubts grow with prolonged exposure — the bad news is that to a large segment of the country, class warfare is a winner.

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By AJC is DOOMED

August 23, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

What woodenhead calls class warfare is really the Repuke demand for special treatment under the income tax system for themselves…they expect to pay only 15% on most of their income, they want their social security and medicare taxes capped at ~100,000 bucks of income, and they expect the working man to pay much higher tax rates on his much smaller income than they pay. I say tax the stinking repukes till they bleed, then tax them somemore….

By Bitter EX democrackkk

August 23, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

uh ‘doomed’ …EMBRACE the FAIRTAX if you want equitable taxation…its the only way to help the poor, taxwise…

oh, and privitize SS and watch YOUR nestegg grow exponentially…

By rene

August 23, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

wooten is only capable of thinking with one side of his brain, no left side.

By Bob

August 23, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Jim, you are so right. If we do not change the current tax system this country is going to face some real hard times.

Everyone needs to contribute. Everyone needs to pay tax. If you are working and not paying tax then you do not have the right to vote. When is someone going to stand up and tell it like it is?

Rene/Doomed…..you are the very idiots that will cause the end of the USA.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 23, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I think we would all agree that Obama thinks of little other than his own well being (I mean really, how does a “Community Organizer” buy a $2 million house?) I think we would all agree that McCain’s mind is not on his personal assets, but that he is fully engaged in the events that matter to this country. Therefore, does it not make sense to have each perform in his strongest sphere - McCain to run the country, and Obama to go home and manage his finances?

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 23, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Perhaps a less polite way to analyze leftist justification for the “class envy” would be to note that a thief is someone who takes the properties of others for his own benefit. Leftists are thieves who use the tools of government to take the property of others, to distribute among their friends - nothing but a criminal gang.

By Rufus

August 23, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

What idiots (quasi Marxist liberals like Obamanation) don’t understand is that our tax infrastructure in America, both corporate and private, is the anchor around the economic neck. There is a reason US corporate headquarters move overseas.

Joe Biden.

Boy was that a shock.

He is worthy of a tremendous amount of respect no matter what your party affiliation.

But, he’s still a liberal.

At least he can give his own opinion without a teleprompter and script, unlike his potential future boss.

By Big John

August 23, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Great article Jim, Class warfare, race cards, and any secular device that a politician right and left can devise keeps the masses on an emotional level which in turn keeps the politician from having a thinking constituent base. Kinda’ always been that way I guess, “Tippie canoe and Tyler too.”

By Fairtaxman

August 23, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

doomed wrote

“they expect to pay only 15% on most of their income, they want their social security and medicare taxes capped at ~100,000 bucks of income, and they expect the working man to pay much higher tax rates on his much smaller income than they pay.”

No dufus head, they expect everyone to pay something higher than ZERO. Did you not read the article? I give you a F for your ability to reason.

You just made Jim’s point. You expect others to pay your way, don;t you Rene and Doomed? Be honest.

By morris

August 23, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

So whar are we suppose to do give supply side economics another try.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 23, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Dear Rufus @ 11:08, I agree with your analysis. Even if Biden has some grave personal and philosophical defects, I am grateful Obama selected someone with a bit of life-experience.

By donald

August 23, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Dimwit Wooten? This country has steered more towards the right since 1980 when Ronnie Raygun was elected. I have not seen any tangible proof that your common sense conservatism babble works.

John McCain tried to make Obama a “celebrity” and he ended up with his foot in his mouth, plain and simple. Don’t worry, over the next several weeks and months McCain will continue to make a fool of himself and people like you because whereas you have called Obama an “empty suit” there is no suit on your dumb carcass at all!! You’re just one big puff of polluted air that will be blown away by the winds of change!!

By Rufus

August 23, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

“You just made Jim’s point. You expect others to pay your way, don;t you Rene and Doomed?”

Come again blog hack? What the F do I look like, a liberal Democrat?

By Rufus

August 23, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

“I have not seen any tangible proof that your common sense conservatism babble works.” - Donald (duck)

So many left wing liberal idiots in this nation, so little time. Look at the economic facts of the “Raygun” (awe, isn’t that so cute from mindless hysterical liberals?) years vs. the Carter years, jackass.

“John McCain tried to make Obama a “celebrity””

Oh you mindless hysterical liberal asshats aren’t going to get away with that. The media and Hollywood took a man from NOWHERE and put him on a pedestal because they liked the way he looked and spoke, not to mention that he is another feather in the liberal minority hat. Now, just who made Obama a celebrity again?

GOD you idiots on the left never cease to amaze me.

By Peter

August 23, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Hey By morris

August 23, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

So what are we suppose to do give supply side economics another try.

I agree………Pi$$ on down economics………

Time to change America’s WAR TIME ECONOMY…….. it is BURYING the country………

Republicans SPEND, SPEND, SPEND…… AND cannot ACCOUNT for the Money…..WHY ?

Because the Dollars are being Bilked from the US Treasury, and no REPUBLICAN is willing to account for the waste…………. a FEW RICH are getting get Very RICH !

Ahhhhhhhhhh…………. The Republican way………..

By AmVet

August 23, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

For the ostriches of the past eight years:

The United States is mired in a misguided, endless, deadly and mismanaged occupation. Most now feel that they were lied to by Bushco to justify it. OBL still roams around and laughs at us. Iran knows that our historical allies around the world don’t much value our belligerent foreign policies.

The economy is in recession. Most necessities are barely affordable. Insurance is not even an option for untold millions.

The middle class is getting absolutely hammered by economic policy derived by plutocrats. And corporate big shots are making more money/profits than ever.

Because of innumerable scandals in this administration, payoffs and bribery reminiscent of Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall and a cloak of paranoid secrecy, most Americans don’t really trust their government to do the right thing anymore. Not since Nixon have we seen such callous disregard for the good will of the nation.

The anti-environmentalists destroy, abuse and pollute our only world and dwindling natural resources at will.

Social policy is often framed in the context of religious mania and intolerance.

The president of this country has approval ratings never before seen and are akin to those of Hugo Chavez. The numbers for the US congress are even worse, with its GOP members bringing those numbers even further down.

The 2006 mid-term elections were historical in that the fake conservatives could not take ONE single solitary seat from the Dems. A slaughter of epic proportions. And they are likely looking at a very similar fate this November.

The neo-cons trotted out eight of their beloved to ascend to the throne and NOT ONE could beat an aged RINO maverick.

In short, conservatism and the Republican Party have been hijacked by the biggest assortment of frauds and losers ever assembled.

And the Democrats are desperate, Jim???!!!

By Dusty

August 23, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

Well, I get back from a storm at the beach and what do ya know?? The “perfect political storm” of Obama, Biden & liberals has struck!!! The neophyte, the big talker and the “support me” libs. That is enough to sink any ship!! All that while McCain stands like a life saving lighthouse on shore. Watch those “breakers” as I did this week.

It is almost laughable. We need an “in training” president Obama like we need the Russians to “protect” Georgians. A neophyte president who will rely on “old boy” Biden while repudiating the experienced McCain as “too old”. Cub Scout Obama leading the Boy Scout troop. What a dilemma for Democrats. Everything is in reverse while they try to move forward. A president in training while the “old guy” tries to hold it together behind the scenes. It doesn’t work in automotives. IT DOES NOT WORK IN POLITICS.

Use your head, folks. McCain 2008…the man who ALREADY knows what he is doing.

By Rufus

August 23, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

Oh blow it out your a-ss already, mindless hysterical liberal Algorebot fascists:

“Previous DailyTech stories have detailed recent cooling experienced by the planet, and highlighted some of the scientists currently predicting extended global cooling. Even the UN IPCC has stated that world temperatures may continue to decline, if only briefly.”

Now, an expert in geophysics at the National Autonomous University of Mexico has added his voice to the fray. Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at UNAM’s Institute of Geophysics, has predicted an imminent period of cooling intense enough to be called a small ice age.

Lemmie guess - global warming now causes global cooling.

By Rufus

August 23, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Good going Chuck Schumer. Let’s see how the mainslime media tackles this one (IE: ignores):

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - California’s attorney general is reviewing a request by former employees of IndyMac Bancorp Inc to investigate whether a New York senator triggered the bank’s collapse by releasing confidential information.

At issue is a much-publicized letter that Chuck Schumer, a Democrat, sent in June to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp (FDIC) and Office of Thrift Supervision (OTS) questioning the company’s ability to survive.

Now let’s just sit back and watch how our “fair and balanced” main stream media (remember boys and girls, only Faux News is biased - and it’s only biased towards the Right - a liberal biased media is a neocon myth) chooses to investigate and report this.

By CommunistAJC

August 23, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Jim, Liberals hate the rich because they themselves are incapable of making their own money. All people have to do is look at Europe. IT WOULD NOT EXIST WITHOUT THE USA. PERIOD. Europe can sit around and tell us how to run our country yet Russia can easily run all over them like Hitler.

By the way liberal morons, great job in selecting an idiot for a candidate. He’s so stupid he selected a hack senator from a state half the size of MISS.

By Rufus

August 23, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

Jim, Liberals hate the rich because they themselves are incapable of making their own money.

You win the Thanksgiving turkey, CAJC. Perhaps this is why so many Democrat politicians have a lawyer background. Oh don’t you know, those are the only “rich” people who actually “work” and all that…

By Peter

August 23, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Wow……… how funny is this ?

All people have to do is look at Europe. IT WOULD NOT EXIST WITHOUT THE USA. PERIOD. Europe can sit around and tell us how to run our country yet Russia can easily run all over them like Hitler.

Yes and we can easily run over a country like IRAQ.

You are soooooooooooo FUNNY……. America can invade another country, but when Russia wants to do it…….well that is NOT RIGHT !

HA HA HA……..

By Peter

August 23, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

I agree with Dusty here………..

Use your head, folks. McCain 2008…the man who ALREADY knows what he is doing.

Yes he gets up in the morning puts on his “Depends”…….and then he lives in his Wife’s house, and is coddled by her money.

He certainly does know what he is doing……… but does he know how many houses SHE OWNE’S ?

Of course not, he doesn’t wear the pants in the family, or runs the finances !

Yes McLost does know what he is doing, and in a few more years, he won’t even remember.

By CommunistAJC

August 23, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

Rufus, UHHHHHHHH…….And how do lawyers make their money? HMMMMMM……BY SUING OTHER PEOPLE AND COMPANIES. HELLOOOO JOHN EDWARDS! Again, libs can’t make their own money by actually working for a living.

Peter, yeah, but the difference is we invaded a country that broke the UN weapons ban NINETEEN times. Russia invaded a country that did nothing wrong. Love people like you. Always defending Saddam, Castro, Kim Jong IL, Stalin and Che yet cry like a baby when we want to destroy communism, terrorism and other tyranny. Again, go sell stupid somewhere else hack. How is your moms basement working out?

By get out much ?

August 23, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten is correct. How else do you explain a man who can’t remember how many houses he owns or a man who is the grandson of a US Senator and son of a US President calling his opponent an “elitist”.

By AmVet

August 23, 2008 1:39 PM | Link to this

So the mulatto has made his choice. One sure to not throw away the independents and moderates.

Will McCain do the same? After all, that is the same crowd he used to propel himself to the nomination and the one he desperately needs to win in November.

I have a bad feeling he is going to give the White House to Obama with a neo-con like pick though.

And the idiots on the far right are trying everything in their power to ensure he chooses another head-up-the arse Bushco ideologue.

We’ll see…

By Jackie

August 23, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

The so-called conservatives are trying to ease the pain of the political blowout they will experience in November by sharpening their rhetoric.

I seem to recall that MANY of them abhorred the fact that John McCain had the possibility of winning the Repub nomination because he was not “sufficiently conservative enough.”

Now, the voters have spoken and selected McCain and Obama, no amount of words and vitriol can stop the inevitable.

What will you do now?

By Peter

August 23, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Well By CommunistAJC………….

We invaded a country under “Faulty Intelligence”…..

Didn’t you get that memo……came from the White House……….

You can SPIN it any way you want……….

It was a PURE ACT OF AGGRESSION………for Oil, and dominance in the area.

Back to “Name Calling”…….. so all can SEE……….The number 1 ….. “Republican Family Value” …….. that seems to be used the MOST by the Right.

Folks what we have here is a lack creativity, and expression.

Also that question the RIGHT will never ask !

Where is Bin Laden ……… didn’t he attack America ?

Gee no sense in actually getting that guy……then we would actually be PROTECTING AMERICANS.

Of course not……BUT then we couldn’t make up a WAR, Spend America into Debt, and Bilk it ……… yes all at the same time with the WONDERFUL Cost Plus Contracts given out………….but wait there is more……for the simple donation of your TAX DOLLARS……..REPUBLICANS can spend 30 Billion a MONTH for WAR……and very little at Home !

Hmmmmmm who came up with the idea…… shouldn’t a foreign company control the security in American Ports ?

Great Job ! Good to know what one is doing !

By Dusty

August 23, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Well, Peter,

It may surprise you to know that women no longer wear hoopskirts and bonnets. They can manage their own finances quite well, even married women. Too bad you are still in the dark ages.

Cindy McCain manages her finances and McCain doesn’t try to act like he does. He wss perfectly honest in answering a question that was only asked to remind voters that he is wealthy and so is his wife and both own property.

Did anyone ask Obama how a “community organizer” acquired a millionaire mansion? How a racketeer was SOMEHOW involved in the process and also in acquiring a vacant lot next door?

If you want to cast suspicion on McCain’s homes you better expect questions on Obama’s. And….I’ll take a “rich wife” any day over a wife that “finally found one thing” she liked in America.

By Common Sense

August 23, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

To: Ragnar,

It’s called 8 to 10 millions in book sales that is how you purchase a 1.6 million dollar home.

C’mon folks it really not about America when it comes to Foriegn Policy. We are blogged down with 2 wars what can we do to help Georgia or any country except use talk. How can you fall for that?

We need a new direction, McClain does not have any direction” I quote I don’t much about about the economy” if A CEO candidate made that statement would you hire him/her to run your company?

To Dusty: Welcome back I hope your trip was good.

But I hope in November you will reach-out to something new for this country. We have to work on getting this country back on track.

Face it people our taxes will increase we have to reduce our national debt. With unemployment rising what else will happen!

By Dusty

August 23, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

Dear Common Sense,

My vacation was kinds iffy. Never go to the beach with a tropical storm. But thanks for asking.

But, Common Sense, I feel very good about our country. We are obviously protected with no more attacks and we have freed two countries from tyranny. I had rather be in debt for that than have terrorists running free in this world.

I see no protection from Obama. I see no tax breaks. I see a great increase in the national debt from “giveaways” or promises to get votes. I prefer emphasis on self reliance rather than subsidies. I do not like the negative philosohy of his wife which she now tries to hide. I wonder about HIS association with many anti- Americans.

McCain is human just like Obama but he has proven his loyalty to our country in military service and governmental service. He is experienced and honest. His background is not filled with questionable associates. His age has given him the world view of experience. I will vote for him.

I believe that electing Obama is asking for an American disaster. I do not think he has the ability or the experience to run America. McCain does. I will vote for McCain whom I consider the ONLY candidate with creentials suitable for a president.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 23, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this

Dear Common @ 2:50, your statement is almost correct, although from book sales but from publisher advances. Obama’s income in 2004 was $200k, not nothing but not enough to buy a $2 million house. Publisher advances in 2005 were 5x his 2004 income, and he bought the house in June 2005. He did not make a fortune on the “Dreams” book until the current Obamawave.

By Peter

August 23, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Yes Dusty he answered the question honestly well maybe not…..he probably doesn’t own any of it…..being a well kept man has it’s perks!

HA HA HA…about the dark…… especially about woman’s finances…

Well you will get to be the first folks to actually vote for the modern day ………………….Dumb (Bush C- student) and Dumber (McLost C- student, almost last in his Military training class.

CONGRATULATIONS !

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 23, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Dear Common @ 2:50, why do you magnify the need for tax increases instead of decreasing domestic spending? Certainly McCain - the anti-earmark - will make it tougher for the big congressional thieves. We would all agree that Obama will “work on getting the country back on track” to the good old days of wild spending by the overlords. Everything Chauncey proposes is corporate welfare, in one form or another.

By Common Sense

August 23, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

To: Ragnar:

Mrs. Obama was making over $200,000 a year and Mr. Obama was making over $100,000 I believe that can qualify for 1.6 million dollar home.

Trust me I know loan programs! Biden was a good pick! Every new president is in training! But we need someone who can run a well oil machine. Let’s face-it THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN train is well run.

A newcomer who has changed the game!

Senator McClain is a good person but not a person who should be a President.

McClain states I do not know that much about the economy. You mean after 26 years in the SENATE, you do not know much about the economy.

By Peter

August 23, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

WOW how more really FUNNY STUFF……..

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 23, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Dear Common @ 2:50, why do you magnify the need for tax increases instead of decreasing domestic spending? Certainly McCain - the anti-earmark - will make it tougher for the big congressional thieves. We would all agree that Obama will “work on getting the country back on track” to the good old days of wild spending by the overlords.”

Yes we have NOT run up the largest DEFICIT in USA History………Thank you REPUBLICANS !

ALL that Conservative spending………. How many Billion a Month for WAR ?

HA HA HA……Republicans = BIG SPENDING……….

By Pee'er Pressure

August 23, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

First, Public Radio is playing a 2006 recording of Mozart’s “Marriage of Figaro” that blows donkey dong. Tempo. Mozart dissolves without Tempo. It literally melts away and is unlistenible. (is that even a word?)

Second, Obama dropped the baton. What is going on with the baton drops? First the olympics, then this. Obama, Biden is not change, Hillary is change, hello, a woman?

I’m so angry that, if the election were held today, I would vote for McCain.

The country better get used to war. We’re going to be waring for a long, long time. Fine with me. War is good. I’ll say it again, War, (for lack of a better word), is good. War works. War motivates. War employs. War succeeds. All real Americans love the sting of battle. I will be proud to lead you readers in a blogblitz to get McCain elected and we can escalate and spread this war on terror.

McCain 08: Spirit of the Revolution. (and check out that first lady. Camelot revisited).

Obama 08: The more things change, the more they stay the same.

By Mike K.

August 23, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

McClain states I do not know that much about the economy. You mean after 26 years in the SENATE, you do not know much about the economy.

Well he doesn’t have his buddy Charles Keating around to teach him anymore.

By Common Sense

August 23, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

Thanks Mike K.

I was just about to mention Mr. Charles Keating a person who was great friends with John McClain.

TO Dusty: Mr. Keating was the cause of the biggest callapse in our financial history. Our taxes bail-out the Saving and Loans Association.

John McClain is seen on vacation with Mr. Keating. McClain says I did not know about the dealings between Keating, my wife and my father in law.

Know McClain supporters if you believe that I now know it is hopeless to convince you that Mr. Obama is the right choice.

Mr Obama purchase a lot for $120,000 for Resko and his is evil. Do you know of anything personally about Mr. Obama that he has done something wrong?

By GMAN

August 23, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

John “Mr. Magoo” McCain, a good old soldier that never earned a thing in his life without major assistance by his daddy, granddaddy, and Cindy “Jezebel” McCain.

GOP - Taking Pride in Ingnorance!

By Man Camp?

August 23, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

I know, GMAN, but we have to embrace McCain, after all, the alternative is Osama Bin Laden. If we dont elect McCain then the terrorists win.

McCain 08: Fighting John McCain!

Obama 08: The more things change, the more they stink without Hillary, moron.

By Man Camp?

August 23, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

We have to think of a way to use that deer in headlights thing McCain does when a reporter ambushes him. We need to turn it around as an adorable trait, or simply make McCain use a mantra like, “I think it deserves further study”, whenever he gets bushwhacked by a cub reporter chick. Maybe we can strong arm the woman later in an alley so’s they donts do it again, and make it clear that if they do, they wont feels so good.

The debates: McCain has to start practicing vigorous pronouncements when the soft easy ones land in his lap, which they will. He needs to know when he’s been thrown a softball and exactly how to follow through. I’ll let his advisers handle that one, (like they’ve been doing so great till now, however, to be fair, McCain has improved his delivery 100%, he can take direction and that’s all that matters).

McCain 08: Taking America’s Side.

Obama 08: The more things change, the more they stay the same.

By AJC is DOOMED

August 23, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this

The fair tax is not fair, it is just another form of theft…those of us who have worked hard, paid taxes on our income and saved it will be penalized under the fair tax. Since the income tax will go away, all taxes under the fair tax will be sales taxes….much bigger sales taxes than currently exist. Well, I have already paid my fair share of taxes on my savings, and I do not want to pay it again under the fair sales tax.

By Man Camp?

August 24, 2008 8:26 AM | Link to this

The Democrats’ only hope is that McCain’s VP choice will be as poor as Obama’s.

How many voters know that Russia’s recent military incursions were the reaction to Georgia’s military incursions? Georgia attacked first, mobilizing an army on Russia’s borders, which is the biggest no no is world history. Everytime an army trapes around near the Russian border, we get a world war.

Isn’t Russia the area where all the huns came from in the old days of yore? Like 600 ad, to about 1200 ad? Isn’t it in Russia’s DNA to just attack something just for the H.E. double hockey sticks?

Those who ignore history are doomed to be elected president of the USA.

I’ll tell what I dont like: The Kurds have been awfully quiet lately.

Too quiet.

Luckofish’s cartoon today brings up an interesting question: How will McCain pronounce his strategy for Iraq now that a defacto Accord has been reached? He stuck his big foot in his mouth with his jawboning about what he’d do to counter-counter attack Russia’s counter-attack in the mutinying provinces, I guess you could say McCain broke wind over the Breakaways. I guess you could say a lot of things, but that would be the one you’d get a big laugh with at the Star Bar in little five points, where I’ll be musing about Obama, McCain, and Bigfoot’s autopsy monday night. (Bigfoot’s last meal: a Baton, man)

C U all there.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 24, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this

Dear Man @ 8:26, jbmlaw forecast: Romney. Reason: the VP canddate has only two obligations, (1) avoid alienating the base, and (2) be competitive in the single VP debate. As Obama named an old-fashioned street fighter, McCain will have to select a bare-knuckles conservative. While someone like Limbaugh or Coulter would be a more effective choice for that purpose, his only real possibility among the political players is Romney. Pawlenty is nice guy, conservative, but a harmless drone. Jindal is not an effective fighter, as his first gubernatorial decisions proved. No, Romney is the only one who can dish it out as well as he takes it, so the probability if now overwhelming.

Yesterday I wanted to be the first to post the words “Obama” and “gravitas” in a single sentence, but I did a googlenews search first and there were already 100+ articles. I am not as creative as I think I am.

By Man Camp?

August 24, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

Nobody said you were.

By Mine Camp?

August 24, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

I will pay $100 in cyber-dough website money to anyone who can answer today’s quiz: “What did the GOP in Florida offer the democrats to trick them into voting unanimously 4 that dastardly-early Hillary-killing primary?”

By T.L.

August 24, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Oh! OHH! Pick me, analchord. I know! I know the answer! Pick me and I’ll win the 100 bucks in cyber dough website money!

Ohh! OHHH! (camera to student-troll waving his arm ferociously)

By Mine Camp?

August 24, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this

Not you again, T.L. you haven’t answered one question correctly this year. I wont have you making a travesty out of Wooten’s blog again. Now sit…DOWN!

How about you, Veronica? Do you know what the GOP offered the Dems that made the legislation so irresistible that they fell all over each other and smothered themselves stampeding to pass the legislation?

By Veronica

August 24, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Uh, was it that the GOP agreed to take the ten commandments out of the churches? Wait, no, I mean was it that the GOP agreed to stop showing the movie “The Passion” in it’s entirety before every session of the legislature?, no, that’s alabama, oh, I KNOW! IT’s…..

By Mine Camp?

August 24, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

Spit it out, child!

By Veronica

August 24, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

A paper trail for the November election night results.

By Rev

August 24, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

Senator McCain’s act of picking a mormon would overshadow his words to Pastor Rick the other night.

Republican’s will show their disapproval by not voting.

Pawlenty would be a far better choice.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 24, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

The coming election should be interesting. I assume we have a traditional warrior who suffered years in horrific conditions for his country; a genius businessman who reached the national consciousness as the heart and mind behind a financially successful Olympics; a bright partisan warrior who served his state and nation for more than 30 years in the US senate; and Obama.

As our friend Common Sense reminded us yesterday, Obama’s sole tangible accomplishment is that he has published two autobiographies - he is famous for being famous. What better statement for an Oprah culture than electing a leader whose only achievement is telling his life story over and over. Well, that and attempting to prevent medical attention for babies in botched abortions.

By getalife "whiners"

August 24, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

How bout them dawgs?

1?

Please.

Great Olympics, great race last night and football is here!

Life is good.

Anyhoo, we have three corrupt Senators going to save our country.

Yeah, right.

One states our government is broken.

Will somebody please ask McDraft why it is broken and how in the hell do you fix a broken government?

By out of touch

August 24, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

Jim, what you and the other repugnanats are failing to see is that this is just one more glaring piece of evidence that prooves McSame is out of touch with America and the American people. Not only is they guy older than dirt, and I only say that because I’m even more worried about the John McSame in 2-3 years when his mind really starts to go, but at a basic level he doesn’t even know how many houses he has. Ask any regular person how many they have and I bet you would get a correct answer. What a joke. Vote for the guy not being endorsed y the worst president in American history.

Also, hey Ragnar Danneskjöld, I love seeing you all upset about Obama winning this election. You hide behind your dimwitted comments and think that will make you feel better. Even if what you said is true, which it’s not, it’s got to eat you up inside that a know-nothing, hack is going to win the whitehouse. I guess you’ll know how we felt 8 years ago, then 4 years ago. Wallow in it!!

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 24, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

Dear getalife @ 11:03, I hope Captain Queeg says the cure is to cut away the dead wood and don’t plant any new kudzu.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 24, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

Dear Out of Touch @ 11:10, you err, President Carter endorsed Obama - similar qualifications, so I perceive kindred spirits there. As to my observations on Obama, I would gratefully receive counterargument rather than the mindless contradiciton you and the other moonbats offer.

By catlady

August 24, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

What I hear from the tax numbers Mr. Wooten posts is that there are a lot of folks working for very little money. We know that all those folks listed as owing zero tax are not on welfare. Therefore, they are simply not earning enough to trigger a tax debt. And who are they working to enrich? Well, yeah, the upper classes who employ them; those who pay $15 per hour but bill $60 per hour.

I would argue that many of the thieves cited are actually the wealthy making a killing off the blood and sweat of the poor/lower middle class. They are those who are able, through long term welfare such as the subsidy for home ownership, to amass money. Do many poor people make terrible choices that plunge them deeper into poverty? Absolutely! Do the wealthy business owners make money off them by dangling the “American dream” in front of them, in the form of $100 tennis shoes and big screen TVs and designer jeans and instant gratification and housing loans they cannot afford? Again, absolutely!

Are we our brother’s keeper?

The problem for me is BOTH parties have it wrong, and right. What we have been doing so far isn’t working.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 24, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this

Dear Catlady @ 11:49, while there is merit in your argument, there is a crucial difference. The “rich” people who are enriched by the labor of the “poor” lack the capacity of compulsion - any poor person can walk away at any time. The only thieves are those who compel delivery of wealth, and that exists only at the business end of the government guns.

By catlady

August 24, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

Yeah, Ragnar, they can walk away at any time to….what? No income, no matter how piddling. (15$ per hour is better than zero) A frayed safety net and fewer charitible groups which are also stretched even more tightly by increased numbers and less donations (as the middle class cannot continue their contributions; they are hurting, too). Then we have this increasingly extreme attitude of “you are on your own, buddy”.

So, while an individual company cannot “compel” people to work for them for low wages (while raking in the big bucks), there is a general culture of agreement that businesses that employ lower and medium skilled people can just get someone else if they cannot extract anymore labor from one who decides to leave. Heck, even higher skilled workers (think IT) are subject to the same culture!

By Mine Camp?

August 24, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

Very good, Veronica, now for a bonus, why is the paper trail ballot a red herring in Florida? Why were the democrats chumps to vote 4 the hillary killing early primary in exchange for a paper ballot?

Nobody? Okay I’ll tell you all, so that you may know how to spell politics this day: The paper trail is useless without a reliable audit protocol, and that will never happen in florida or anywhere else. My proof? The photograph of that FLorida election official holding up a paper ballot to the light to check for hanging chads, dimpled susans, and pregnant whatevers……this photograph is the most important in the entire world’s democratic election history. It shows you why mankind can never be truly free, and how there’s no defense against tyranny. (Those in power make rules up as they go along).

A children’s game called ‘mother may i’ and ‘simon sez’ is all the illustration you need.

The shame of it is almost too much to bear.

By bearcasey

August 24, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Jim: if this were 1932, you would have been one of those guys crucifying FDR. Just look at the situation after 8 years of Republican “business expertise” in power:

  • The price of gasoline has doubled under “W’s” watch. This is the largest “tax hike” in history since our entire economy depends on oil. We don’t have the choice of not buying oil except for discretionary driving, a small part of the total picture. Every product that is shipped any distance is more expensive.

  • The real estate and mortgage markets are in a shambles. I love the “free market” mentality: it’s all “let the market rule” when times are good. It’s all “save us for the good of the nation” when things go bad. If we believe in a “free market,” everyone associated with Bear Stearns should be out of a job and/or losing all their equity in the company. The market punishes stupidity… let them suffer… but it won’t happen.

  • We’re pouring 3 billion dollars a week into Iraq, a country whose people care nothing about us. Sure, the “surge” will work as long as we pour billions of dollars and 150,000 troops into that phon y-baloney made-up country. (Study the origins of Iraq.) Whenever we leave… 2009, 2019, 2029… Iraq will revert to tribal civil war….study history, you fools.

  • The Republican Party has been weighed in the balance and been found wanting. Now the Democrats get their chance to screw up and they may. But does ANYONE believe that Obama is less capable than “W?”

    By Mine Cough?

    August 24, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

    ISAIDTHESHAMEISALMOSTTOOMUCHTOBEAR! cough cough

    will you take your cough out of the chatroom, moron?

    My Cough?

    Yeah! Your cough.

    I’m gonna write a book.

    Just stfu and beat it, stuntwit.

    You’ll be sorry, I’m gonna write a book and take over der verlde with it! You’ll see.

    Oh yeah, smart guy? What R U gonna call it, My Cough? Get outta heah….

    lets see, I’ll need a pencil and some paper……I’ll make sandwiches first…..

    By Ragnar Danneskjöld

    August 24, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

    Dear Catlady @ 12:24, you have accurately assessed the difference between armed robbery and freedom. Freedom has no guarantees, but armed robbery assures losses.

    By catlady

    August 24, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

    According to the Washington-based Tax Foundation, 41 percent of the U.S. population is totally outside the income tax system. Since 2000, the number of filers with zero tax obligation has grown from 29 million to 42 million. Only 90.6 million of the 132.6 million returns filed in 2005 paid taxes. The rest got back all they’d paid in, or more.

    Unless I am worse in math than I think, these percentages and numbers don’t add up. 41% would be 54 million with zero tax obligation. Also, there is a difference beween 41 percent of the POPULATION and 41% of TAX FILERS. Most little kids, for example, do not file. Sounds like our conservative friends at the Tax Foundation need to more clearly describe their findings. Either that or they were misquoted for shock value? Nah.

    Since 2000, the number of filers with zero tax obligation has grown from 29 million to 42 million. How many workers did we add since 2000? How many are elderly who had retired and had to go back to work?

    Also, those who got back all they’d paid in, or more include teenagers working at McDonalds, and those adults unable to find anything more than part-time work. Separating it out might give us a truer picture (but would it be a better sound bite?) And what about illegal immigrants who put in but do not get refunds? Where do they figure in? If when you subtract those groups listed above and you came up with, say 18% of full time workers, where would be the outrage? And what would that say about a living wage? Or, alternately, how many tax deductions are available?

    I don’t have much respect for “facts” quoted like this. But, boy, they have the power to enrage those who blindly accept them!

    By catlady

    August 24, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

    Are you truly free if you are coerced (by bodily functions such as the need to eat)? I would say that business owners are more “free” since they can pick up and leave. I can’t ship my hunger to India, for example, or “bank” it in the Cayman Islands.

    By Jackie

    August 24, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this

    When does Karl Rove get the opportunity to frog-march to prison. If we can put Marion Jones, Martha Stewart and others in prison for lying to prosecutors, surely, we can do the same for a man that has perverted the US Constitution and conspired to have the former governor of Alabama imprisoned because he was a Democrat and would not go along with Mr. Rove, according to my understanding of published information and the words of Mr. Seigleman himself.

    By catlady

    August 24, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

    Are you truly free if you are coerced (by bodily functions such as the need to eat)? I would say that business owners are more “free” since they can pick up and leave. I can’t ship my hunger to India, for example, or “bank” it in the Cayman Islands.

    By Paul W

    August 24, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

    I don’t know why I wasted my time, but I just read this entire blog. Those on the LEFT are truly unable unable to articulate their positions articulately; they simply regurgitate what has been told them by the MSM and/or create an insulting derivative out of their opponent’s name. How childish.

    The problem with Obama is that he has NO experience to prepare him for this job. I disagree with most of his quasi-socialist policies, but frankly, I have to assume what most of them are, because he hasn’t clarified them- he just wants change, but we don’t know to what. This job, and our nation’s future, is too important to hand to a neophyte just because some think they can stick it to “The Man” by being able to exercise ballot-box power and elect him. My generation of know-it-all know-nothings did that with Jimmy Carter, and it almost destroyed our economy; it DID result in a weakening of our intelligence capabilities that could, under careful analysis, have played a hand in the current Iraq mess.

    There is a clear analogy here; Jimmy Carter almost destroyed our economy and created military/intelligence/national security weaknesses that are still hurting us 28 years after his administration. We may not be so lucky if we elect Obama, the Carter version.2008.

    By Belfy Bats

    August 24, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

    Catlady has a point. anidioticonebutapoint. (how to marry a millionaire, marilyn monroe)

    Hey, cough man, R U turning your head with all those coughs? You should, oh uncupped one.

    Paul W. That’s analchord’s criticism of RW and that other Papsmear, duhng. They only hack rushannity. So, you’re trying to be analchord? Man, never troll a troll. You aint got the knack. Try the salve, oh rash one.

    If people paid their taxes, we could afford healthcare. The IRS just doesn’t enforce it’s own laws. Funny thing is, they would have to raise taxes to pay for more enforcement of the tax laws.

    word up!

    By Ragnar Danneskjöld

    August 24, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

    Dear Catlady @ 1:34, the IRS releases that data every year. Those numbers are in the territory. You surely notice leftists never offer such an analytical approach. Those numbers are the basis for our conservative allegation of “class warfare.” We are now living in a society of thieves, where a huge number of people believe others should pay the freight for their existence - not just believe, but have a sense of entitlement. A sad state to be sure.

    By catlady

    August 24, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

    I, too, dislike and have a big problem with the sense of entitlement. Seems like all—rich, poor, black, white, Latino, male, female—suffer from it, although the things they are “entitled” to may be different.

    What I am tired of: people who expect others to pay their way, in any shape or form. However, that includes everyone. No one pays all their own expenses, whether it is roads or national security.

    One of the good things I think those on the right have done is to push to link behavior with consequences. I would like to see more examination of policy with an eye toward long term, perhaps unintended consequences. I’d also like to see policy tuned to shaping “correct” (functional, useful) behavior. I’d like to see an end of the “poor me” generation after generation mindset, at the expense of those who have truly suffered a short, unavoidable problem.

    I hope the candidate who wins has got these things on his radar; otherwise, we will continue to bankrupt ourselves into third world oblivion.

    By Man Camp.

    August 24, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this

    JBlowmeinLaws, stfu. THose numbers are nonsense. Those exact same proportions are the same percentages that women under 50 fail their papsmear tests and it turns out to be nothing. That’s why they’re considering not doing vajayjay tests anymore (ditto prostrate exams), because 99 percent of the positives turn out to be false alarms, triggering a slew of “cover their butts” tests that cost a fortune but prevent civil liability in malpractice suits. A doctor cant be in the same room as someone coughing anymore without getting sued by you confounded lawyers. You’re the problem. You’re the domestic beeper-cellphone terrorists. You and your ambulance chasing schemes and cheap ties. And where did you get those shoes?

    bwa

    New episode of House: House is having dinner when a diner in the table next to him clears his throat. House orders a battery of tests and insults the guys ancestry.

    By Man Camp.

    August 24, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

    Hey! EVERYBODY! Catlady and JBMlaw are having a cat fight! Rowrr!

    Catfight! ROWRR!

    By Trailer Park Pete

    August 24, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

    I love Demokrauts. They’re very ingenious in their use of Hitler’s tactics to gain power. I’m expecting the Demokrauts are going to require those ‘evil rich’, ie. people who actually work and contribute to our society, wear armbands in the near future. Since they are the real enemy of this country. Those that flew planes into the World Trade Center were only expressing themselves, and we all know the Demokrauts are all for freedom of expression regardless of who it hurts.

    By Trailer Park Pete

    August 24, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

    But Man Camp, the Demokrauts especially love prostate exams. It keeps their men happy. Especially on those cold, lonely Friday nights.

    By Man Camp.

    August 24, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this

    Moron

    By GaLiberal

    August 24, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this

    Moron Jim says: In the generations before you, Democrats routinely won office by scaring the old folks into believing that Republicans intended to take or diminish their Social Security. They win office too by scaring minorities into believing Republicans intend to take or diminish their opportunities.

    Look who’s engaging in class warfare now. The generalities that Moron Jim and his bootlickers continue to puke out their butts is the same old Rethuglicon politics of Reagan and Bush. MJ and the bootlickers have nothing else; no moral mandate, no fiscal control, no success to point to over the past eight years. Of course, they bash the Democrats for not fixing in two years all the problems the Rethuglicons created in the previous six. And the Democrats had to do this with Bush vetoing everything and the Rethuglicons filibustering any real progress. Talk about being set up to fail.

    All the ignorant, redneck, bigots love MJ’s wacko nonsense because they believe it makes them look smart. And if they go along with the rich people why they may get some table scraps. Never mind the facts the Rethuglicons have made their lives harder. No wonder they believe everything from Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Lou Dobbs, and Fox News.

    When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And MJ’s predictable ‘class warfare’ attack is living proof.

    By om

    August 24, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this

    Two party politics is so 20th century!

    By fred

    August 25, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

    GaLiberal = Typical Liberal. All name calling, all generalities, no valid argument.

    By Eli

    August 25, 2008 8:46 AM | Link to this

    If people think that Barack Obama will bring peace and prosperity to America, they aren’t aware of Obama’s plans. Obama has already implemented his first Marxist act, that being Obama’s US Senate bill S2433 that Obama is currently sponsoring in the US Senate. Obama’s S2433 is a global Marxist wealth redistribution scheme. Our tax money that is squeezed out of us by Obama’s S2433 will add an “additional” 845 Billion in taxes on an already over taxed America and S2433 will consume seven percent of our GNP. The money from Obama’s S2433 will be given to the corrupt United Nations, specifically for “The UN Global Poverty Act”. Your money will then be redistributed to third world dictators. This is factual and can be verified, just Google “Obama’s S2433” and read for yourself how Obama is working to redistribute your hard earned money to the tyrants of the world. Obama has also vowed to eliminate the reduction on the death inheritance tax that President Bush implemented so he can get his sticky, Marxist hands on most of your inheritance money. Obama has also vowed to double the Capital Gains Tax so if you bought a second house to cash in on for your retirement, you can expect your property investment return to be cut in half at the very least. Obama doesn’t care, he will still have his Million and a half dollar mansion to live in. Obama will wreck our economy with his Marxist policies. Vote for John McCain and keep your money.

    By Eli

    August 25, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

    If people think that Barack Obama will bring peace and prosperity to America, they aren’t aware of Obama’s plans. Obama has already implemented his first Marxist act, that being Obama’s US Senate bill S2433 that Obama is currently sponsoring in the US Senate. Obama’s S2433 is a global Marxist wealth redistribution scheme. Our tax money that is squeezed out of us by Obama’s S2433 will add an “additional” 845 Billion in taxes on an already over taxed America and S2433 will consume seven percent of our GNP. The money from Obama’s S2433 will be given to the corrupt United Nations, specifically for “The UN Global Poverty Act”. Your money will then be redistributed to third world dictators. This is factual and can be verified, just Google “Obama’s S2433” and read for yourself how Obama is working to redistribute your hard earned money to the tyrants of the world. Obama has also vowed to eliminate the reduction on the death inheritance tax that President Bush implemented so he can get his sticky, Marxist hands on most of your inheritance money. Obama has also vowed to double the Capital Gains Tax so if you bought a second house to cash in on for your retirement, you can expect your property investment return to be cut in half at the very least. Obama doesn’t care, he will still have his Million and a half dollar mansion to live in. Obama will wreck our economy with his Marxist policies. Vote for John McCain and keep your money.

    By Eli

    August 25, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

    If people think that Barack Obama will bring peace and prosperity to America, they aren’t aware of Obama’s plans. Obama has already implemented his first Marxist act, that being Obama’s US Senate bill S2433 that Obama is currently sponsoring in the US Senate. Obama’s S2433 is a global Marxist wealth redistribution scheme. Our tax money that is squeezed out of us by Obama’s S2433 will add an “additional” 845 Billion in taxes on an already over taxed America and S2433 will consume seven percent of our GNP. The money from Obama’s S2433 will be given to the corrupt United Nations, specifically for “The UN Global Poverty Act”. Your money will then be redistributed to third world dictators. This is factual and can be verified, just Google “Obama’s S2433” and read for yourself how Obama is working to redistribute your hard earned money to the tyrants of the world. Obama has also vowed to eliminate the reduction on the death inheritance tax that President Bush implemented so he can get his sticky, Marxist hands on most of your inheritance money. Obama has also vowed to double the Capital Gains Tax so if you bought a second house to cash in on for your retirement, you can expect your property investment return to be cut in half at the very least. Obama doesn’t care, he will still have his Million and a half dollar mansion to live in. Obama will wreck our economy with his Marxist policies. Vote for John McCain and keep your money.

    By Chris

    August 25, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

    Sorry Jim but you Republicans started this and are experts at it. Remember Kerry/2004? His wife was rich, they had several homes and you never stopped reminding us about how he was disconnected from common folks.

    How does the shoe fit on the other foot? John McCain and his campaign started this with this Obama elitist (code word for UPPITY) crap. Coming from a man who married into to one of the richest families in Arizona, that’s a bit of a stretch. McCain provided the opening and now you Right-Wingers are complaining that Obama is being “UNFAIR”. Give me a break!!! McCain with his 8 Homes, Salvatore Feragammo shoes and Cindy with her PRADA outfits calling Obama an “Elitist”??? LOL. Hey, Obama earned his own money; unlike McCain, he didn’t dump a crippled first wife and marry into it. Obama’s $1.65 Million mansion in Chicago??? Dude, $1.65 Million buys you a nice house in Chicago but it’s no mansion.

    An example of Republican Double Standards is that the Texas GOP began airing a webadd saying how selfish Obama is for not helping his HALF-BROTHER in Kenya (who Obama has met only once in his life). Interestingly, Cindy McCain has TWO HALF-SISTERS, who she refuses to acknowledge, who live right here in the US of A. They are of very modest means and one of them has already complained that Cindy refuses to acknowledge them or help in any way since their father died. If a State Democratic Party brought all this up, Jim Wooten would be up in arms.

    Republican Philosophy: Throwing Stones while Living in a Glass House.

    By Chris

    August 25, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

    Eli,

    Taking away tax breaks for the rich isn’t “Marxist”. LOL. Its called paying your share.The current Social Security and Medicare taxes are a classic example of this. These are taxed on all folks with incomes of $102K and below. Once your income climbs above that level, these taxes don’t rise anymore. That’s unfair to those folks who earn $102K or less.

    McCain wants to dramatically lower taxes for folks making $100K or more with the biggest recipients being those making greater than $2 million. Is that also fair?

    Inheritance money??? If you mean the Estate Tax, Even Obama plans to exempt all Estates of $2 Million from this tax. Most inheritances fall below that. Interestingly, both Bill Gates and Warren Buffet favor the Estate Tax.

    Tax on Sale on 2nd Homes??? There already is a tax on that. Its called capital gains. Profits from the sale of primary residences will remain tax free, if the residence rules are followed. I guess McCain and Cindy would suffer from this since you are only allowed ONE primary residence (unlike the EIGHT they currently own).

    Dude, take a deep breath. You’re hyperventilating. Get your facts right.

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