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After ‘change,’ what?

Democrats privately are questioning whether Barack Obama has a second-phase act, a follow-up once “change” wears thin, the Associated Press reports.

John McCain,meanwhile, is finding his footing. A new radio ad for McCain returns to the image of Obama, the celebrity. “Celebrities like to spend their millions,” it says. “Barack Obama is no different. Only it’s your money he wants to spend.”

Obama television ad approach is to accuse McCain of being “more of the same” with tax-cut giveaways to big oil and big corporations. It’s the sort of stuff that appeals to his liberal base, but after a year of campaigning has lost its punch. Young guy, old stuff. Is there something else? Something else beyond “change”?

A problem for Obama, too, is that once he goes negative, as he’s doing this week, he risks turning off the young who hear one message and see another. In the Atlanta market, he’s launching a television ad that attempts to link McCain to Ralph Reed. “It is just sad,” Reed said, “that the Obama campaign, which once pledged to run on hope and change, is now resorting to the politics of personal destruction and fear and smear as Obama drops in the polls.” Too, he continued, it takes “a lot of chutzpah for someone who did real estate deals with Tony Rezko to attack others.” McCain is up 5 percentage points over Obama in the latest Rasmussen poll, a real turnaround.

Reed, who handles the media’s tough questions better than any other Republican in the country, did go to the heart of one of Obama’s vulnerabilities in his response. The young have a nose for hypocrisy. If Act Two of the Obama narrative is the scene where he reveals himself to be just another Chicago machine politician who plays with the truth, the young cut him loose in a heartbeat.

Obama goes into his convention reeling. But no worry. Bill and Hillary are there to lift him up.

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By Eli

August 21, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Barack Obama is a true Marxist and Americans are finally seeing through his drivel and realizing this fact. Obama is currently sponsoring US Senate bill S2433 and if it is passed, it will cost Americans an “ADDITIONAL” 845 Billion in taxes. Your tax money that is fleeced by Obama’s S2433 will be given to the corrupt UN, specifically for “The UN Global Poverty Act”. Your tax money will then be redistributed to third world dictators. This is no falsehood, Google “Obama’s S2433” and read for yourself how Obama plans to use the UN to redistribute your hard earned money. Both the Obama’s have said that Americans will have to get used to having less and Obama’s S2433 is his first attempt to achive his Marxist goal of wealth redistribution. Obama has also vowed to eliminate the reduction on the death inheritance tax that President Bush implemented so he can get his sticky hands on the lion’s share of your rightful inheritance.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 21, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. Our leftist friends will not want to hear it, but Dan Henninger has a great argument on where Obama is losing his case, in the WSJ this morning http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121927592113858497.html?mod=djemEditorialPage The “over my pay-grade” line is resonating, but not the way Chauncey intended. “Nuance” can be a valid explanation, but a hard one to sell (ask Gore and Kerry.) Henninger’s core argument is that each candidate reflects his background: Obama the Ivy Leaguer looking at all angles of an issue to explain his view, whereas McCain’s “yes sir, no sir” Academy answers. Ivy Leaguers are trained to talk to Ivy League professors, and Academy grads learn to talk to the average enlisted man.

McCain’s rise in the polls corresponds with his omnipresent pointed articulation of traditional conservative values. Obama’s fall in the polls corresponds to his articulation of traditional leftist values (notably partial birth abortion, secondarily his initial comments on drilling/inflating and on the Russian invasion of Georgia.) Obama’s fall surprises me, especially as he now is trying to sound more like McCain on drilling and Georgia; I thought that “flip flop” might help him draw some moderates (I have previously argued here that flipping to the right after a prior leftist tact generally helps a politician. Flipping left after taking a right tact always hurts a politician, thus McCain’s perpetual exposure.)

The VP selections will make a difference this year, albeit mostly in the traditional way for McCain. The rule is generally, “do no harm.” Assuming Captain Queeg selects a conservative – Romney or Pawlenty, for example – he will be poised for a competitive campaign. McCain has a self-destructive gene that makes him want to do the unwise – still has too much of the fighter pilot in him – so it is not a given that he will select a conservative. For Obama that VP calculus is more complicated. I still think he needs a strong VP, even at risk of acquiring one who makes him pale by comparison (no racial pun intended). I think Biden or Hillary Clinton is almost a necessity, with Bill Richardson and Evan Bayh as second-tier “safe” choices. I think Sibelius or Kaine would be a disaster for Obama, compounding the inexperience issue. If I may pose a brilliant suggestion, how about Colin Powell as Obama’s VP choice? Powell is out of favor among conservatives, due to his cowardice in the Scooter Libby persecution, but I think he would be a great choice to inspire threshold confidence in Obama’s foreign policy team.

One final note, the negative ads on Reed perplex me. Outside the loony left, nobody cares. Why would Obama spend money consolidating his base in Georgia, where he cannot win anyway? Not a positive indicator for his capacity as fiduciary for taxpayer monies. And as Reed suggests, the Rezko sentencing – I think that is scheduled for October – risks raising the question in a lot of minds, “Where did a Community Organizer get $2 million to buy an old house?”

By T

August 21, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

Why should I vote for McCain?

By Peter

August 21, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Gee Jim…….After change……American’s get America Back…….

America gets a President and VP who believes in balancing the budget.

America a President who will create new Jobs.

America gets a President who will NOT ALLOW the Bilking of Americans.

Americans will get a President who will work, not vacation.

America will get a President who will want to hold our currency up in value.

America will get a President who will want to spend MORE on education of Americans, and stop cutting the Education budget for the Military Bilking.

America will get a President who understand America needs to rebuild America’s infrastructure.

America will get a President who Actually cares about American’s and not about a few buddies who he is helping to get flat out wealthy, by ripping off the American Tax payer.

America will get a President who actually believes in creating Alternative Energy, and a President who does not condone the Polluting of America!

I guess I could go ON Jim……..

How about America gets a President who will go after BIN LADEN.

By getalife "whiners"

August 21, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Americans should be worried if McDraft wins.

This tortured, unstable soul ♥ war and does not even know how many houses he owns.

He is open to a draft and more wars.

So, your kids are stuck with the bills and then he will stick them in more wars.

The worst president in our history endorsed McDraft and that should be enough reason for him to lose.

By Road Scholar

August 21, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

McCain now supports the military draft. He said so in his response to a question. That is how the young voters will turn out.

Obama has learned from the Gore and Kerry losses that you must fight back when the repubs talk negative, esp when its a lie. If McCain would honor his No Negative campaign promise then Obama would not have to lower himself to their level. How unfortunate.

If the press would only research the candidates position and not suppose them, along with stopping to linger on the so- what, then we can make an educated selection.

By Captain Freedom

August 21, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

THE Captain agrees wholeheartedly with Mr Wooten and (especially) the Godly Ralph Reed (who is almost assuredly NOT gay and does NOT have congress with farm beasts).

For what is Obamandingo if not a hypocritical, presumptious elitist who lacks the temperment and experience to lead Our Great Christian Nation. (THE Captain left out the ‘White’ part of the tad so as to not be antoagonistic. But Real Americans know what He means.)

For example: the elitist Barack knows exactly how many homes he owns, emphasizing the preoccupation he has with his own wealth. On the other hand, St John of Hanoi has no idea how many homes he owns. This of course proves his slat-of-the-earthiness, as he prefers to focus on the minutiae of economic policy (particularly as regards Savings & Loan crises) and the nuances of the Georgian-Russian conflict.

As for experience: Obamandingo has never, not even once, crashed a US military aircraft. Compare to the Anointed St John, who managed to crash FIVE aircraft in his storied career, and even managed to become a prisoner of the enemy in a bold attempt to infiltrate the inner-workings of their infrastructure. You can’t buy that kind of experience!

Later, he deftly fooled his slanty-lidded ‘captors’ by signing several false confessions. Now, some lefty sob-sisters claim this was due to St John being tortured. This is a slander. Our Noble Flyboy (who hates to talk about these things, unless given the slightest opportunity) was only subjected to sleep deprivation, withholding of medical care, prolonged periods in stress positions, and waterboarding. And as every Good American (including Our Leader and His Cheney, as well as St John himself) knows, these are merely enhanced interrogation techniques designed to extract accurate information from enemy combatants. Not torture. Period. End of story.

Yes it is leadership forged in the fire of personal failure and apparent treason that makes St John McCain the perfect candidate to continue the Glory that is the Bush Regime. Not every man is capable of spontaneously calling for a war with Russia, or casually affirming his desire for reinstating the draft. If only We could get him to quit hanging around with that sniveling Lieberman and that Lindsay Graham fellow (who is almost certainly gay, and is bound to create a scandal at the Minneapolis airport).

Supporting the hot-tempered White Guy. It is the Right Thing to do.

By CJ

August 21, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

The fact that Jim Wooten is lifting scam-artist and McCain bundler Ralph Reed out of his rat-hole to help create and distribute the right-wing’s manufactured narratives about Obama speaks to Wooten’s integrity (or lack thereof).

By Chaz

August 21, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Peter, those are all lofty platitudes that mean absolutely nothing, and I see nothing in Obama’s rhetoric that will support real action on any of those points… except the “spend more” part. There’s lots of that.

As for finding a reason to vote for McCain, contrasting the two candidates’ responses to the Georgian invasion may have given me all I need to know.

By CORRUPTION FIGHTER

August 21, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

please read this article by glenn beck from cnn NEW YORK (CNN) — “I think the best way of doing good to the poor is not making them easy in poverty but leading them or driving them out of it.”

What hate-mongering politician would be so politically incorrect as to suggest that things like higher minimum wages and more government handouts don’t actually help the poor? I’ll identify the culprit at the end of this column, but for now, I’m more interested in figuring out why that statement sounds so controversial.

Poverty is one of the few national issues that, at least on the surface, unites us all. It’s not a political condition; it’s a human one. After all, when’s the last time you’ve heard a politician campaign on a pro-poverty platform?

But although the problem may unite us, the solutions don’t. And perhaps nothing illustrates that better than what’s been happening in Detroit, Michigan, and Buffalo, New York.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, nearly a third of the residents in those cities are living beneath the poverty line, the highest rates among large cities in the entire country.

No matter what side of the political aisle you’re on, that is nothing short of appalling. Yet if you ask people what we should do about it, you’ll probably hear answers that inexplicably break down right along party lines.

Is there a perfect answer? Probably not. But what bothers me is that people stubbornly stick to their solution, even in the face of overwhelming evidence that it’s not working.

For example, Detroit, whose mayor has been indicted on felony charges, hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961. Buffalo has been even more stubborn. It started putting a Democrat in office back in 1954, and it hasn’t stopped since.

Don’t Miss Commentary: Solving the energy fix Glenn Beck on Headline News In Depth: Commentaries Unfortunately, those two cities may be alone at the top of the poverty rate list, but they’re not alone in their love for Democrats. Cincinnati, Ohio (third on the poverty rate list), hasn’t had a Republican mayor since 1984. Cleveland, Ohio (fourth on the list), has been led by a Democrat since 1989. St. Louis, Missouri (sixth), hasn’t had a Republican since 1949, Milwaukee, Wisconsin (eighth), since 1908, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (ninth), since 1952 and Newark, New Jersey (10th), since 1907.

The only two cities in the top 10 that I didn’t mention (Miami, Florida, and El Paso, Texas) haven’t had Republicans in office either — just Democrats, independents or nonpartisans.

Over the past 50 years, the eight cities listed above have had Republican leadership for a combined 36 years. The rest of the time — a combined 364 years — they’ve been led by Democrats.

Five of the 10 cities with the highest poverty rates (Detroit, Buffalo, St. Louis, Milwaukee, Philadelphia and Newark) have had a Democratic stranglehold since at least 1961: more than 45 years. Two of the cities (Milwaukee and Newark) have been electing Democrats since the first Model T rolled off the assembly line in 1908.

Two cities, 100 years, all Democrats.

If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, the asylums in those cities must be as full as the soup kitchens.

Not too long ago, I had the great honor of being invited to a charity dinner hosted by Chris Gardner. He’s the guy whose rags-to-riches life was portrayed by Will Smith in the movie “Pursuit of Happyness.” Chris had been on my show a few times, and I’ve always admired his story and his message of hope through personal responsibility.

As I prepared for the dinner and looked into Chris’ charity, I started to get nervous. The roster was filled with liberals, most of whom would probably hate me. Hillary Clinton, Mario Cuomo, Alan Alda, Kenneth Cole and Charles Grodin were just a few of the people I was worried about running into.

But the question I kept asking myself was, why? Why can’t people from wildly different political stripes come together in support of a common cause without feeling alienated? Why is an issue like poverty “owned” by one political party?

I consider myself a conservative, but I consider myself an American and a human being first. When people whom I normally agree with screw things up, I call them on it. Yet the people in these cities apparently don’t. Newark keeps drinking the Kool-Aid, electing the same people with the same ideas, slipping down the poverty list (along with the “Places Never to Visit Unless it’s the Airport” list) and wondering why.

We’ve talked a lot about “change” in this country recently, but there’s a much more important catchphrase that we’ve neglected: “All politics is local.” Maybe instead of focusing so much on who we put in charge of our country, we should focus more on who we put in charge of our cities.

Oh, and before I forget. The hateful politician who suggested that we should be “driving” or “leading” the poor out of poverty? It was Benjamin Franklin.

Good thing he never tried to run for mayor of Newark

By Peadawg

August 21, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Change is the only thing we will have left in our pockets if he’s elected and he raises our taxes.

By CORRUPTION FIGHTER

August 21, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

throw democrats out

no muslim in white house

By Drew

August 21, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

McCain should honor his ‘no negative’ pledge? Obama should honor his pledge to debate McCain ‘anytime, anywhere’… the 10 town hall meetings he now denies. He should honor his pledge to sticking to public campaign financing. It’s not like he’s going to shy about spending taxpayer money in any other capacity…

Obama knows he’s in trouble after last Saturday night and will continue to reveal himself as just another typical politician.

By T

August 21, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Maybe instead of focusing so much on who we put in charge of our country, we should focus more on who we put in charge of our cities.

Good point. Start from the bottom work our way up. Change from within. This city and a lot of the counties could use a good overhual.

Still don’t know why I should vote for McCain.

By BK

August 21, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Our money already IS currently being distributed to Third World Dictators already. It’s called OIL. Stick that in your dual exhaust gas sucking pickup.

By CJ

August 21, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Sorry CORRUPTION FIGHTER. I, for one, have stopped reading the falsehoods, misinformation, double-standards and preztel-logic distributed by the likes of Glenn Beck long ago (save our reliable local demagogue, Jim Wooten).

FYI, above the box where you typed your comments are instructions on how to place a link in your comment. Please try it out sometime.

By Political Foreskin

August 21, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

A vote for McCain is a vote for four more Bush years, which is like 100 years in Dogs-of-War years, man.

The Bigfoot Autopsy results were published today. The contents of his stomach included a hand delivered foreclosure notice, (with the hand), a policeman’s cap, (with the policeman), and Bubba.

Obama 08: America found. America sound.

By Reality

August 21, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Russia just invaded their neighbor. Iraq is still a mess. The Taliban are coming back in Afghanistan. Iran wants to nuke Israel. The US economy is tanking with housing leading the way.

You have to ask yourself, is a Senator from Illinois with less than a year on the job, no foreign policy experience, no military experience, no significant legislative accomplishments, sever left wing tax and spend ideas, the right guy to hold the nuclear launch codes that could end all human life on the planet at this time?

Don’t be stupid. We need someone who can and will stand up for this country against Russia, China, Iran, OPEC and anyone else in the world.

McCain is that man. He has years of foreign relations and military experience but what I like best is when he gets angry you know it. We need someone who is not afraid to stand up for what they believe in.

John Lennon might have been a great song writer but if you’re waiting for that brotherhood of man thing to develop I got some bad news for you. Life’s hard then you die.

The future is not pretty and things will get worse before they get better. We need to build up our military and decrease our dependence on outside resources but most importantly we need someone to stand strong. We’ve got an enpire to run. You can be part of it or steam rolled buy it, your choice.

By Peter

August 21, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Well chaz……..

“By Chaz

August 21, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

Peter, those are all lofty platitudes that mean absolutely nothing, and I see nothing in Obama’s rhetoric that will support real action on any of those points… except the “spend more” part. There’s lots of that.”

Gee guy…….. so tell me you want to HOPE McLost will be better than the Bilking President we have currently.

The MAJOR JOKE here is no one wants taxes…….well guess what how is the deficit going to go away?

Even Bush Senior changed his mind and raised taxes, after he spent like the “drunken sailor” on leave.

We are in effect being crushed by that debt in all kinds of ways…….just look at the dollar, the housing market, the crumbling financial market, including the banks, and Fannie Mae, and Freddy Mac.

American’s are bailing out corporations with Tax dollars today.

The Republican’s have had 8 years of attempting to lead this nation, and what they have done is run America into the ground.

WHERE IS BIN LADEN ?

Are you NOT embarrassed that Bin Laden could do what he did to America……then get away with it ?

Where is the real right and wrong here……..Bin Laden master minded the killing of thousands of American’s…..

Bush then started a different WAR, and Lied about it ALL.

That is the leadership you want ?

By CJD

August 21, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

The “after ‘change,’ what?” argument is certainly valid, and is pressing many of Obama’s more logical and less fanatical supporters to a re-evaluate their decisions. As a conservative journalist, you probably want to bring up as many inconsistencies in Obama’s campaign as you can; however, based on what you’ve been saying, Obama is doing a fine job of destroying himself all on his own—and although plenty of conservatives are bringing up great and fundamental issues about Obama, they often toss their credibility straight out the window by quoting someone like Ralph Reed, which only makes it seem like you’ve sided with him—he’s an example of what’s WRONG with conservatism in America. Leave the hypocrite out of it.

By Pat

August 21, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

Change-It’s what’s left in your pocket after Barack Obama raises your taxes.

http://www.cafepress.com/DefiningChange http://www.cafepress.com/NObamaforPres

By Peter

August 21, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

Hey by Reality…….

“By Reality

August 21, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

Russia just invaded their neighbor. Iraq is still a mess. The Taliban are coming back in Afghanistan. Iran wants to nuke Israel. The US economy is tanking with housing leading the way.”

Thank you for pointing out what the CURRENT Republican Leadership has brought UPON America.

8 Years of Bush…… and America is tanking !

Time for the Change……..!

By @@

August 21, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

After ‘change,’ what?

Normally, I would put ‘em down for a nap or send them off to play Jim.

Manuel…..would you take “this baby” please?

Beware Charismatic Men Who Preach ‘Change’

Manuel Alvarez Jr. Sandy Hook

I’ve thought a lot about the anniversary this year. The election-year rhetoric has made me think a lot about Cuba and what transpired there. In the late 1950s, most Cubans thought Cuba needed a change, and they were right. So when a young leader came along, every Cuban was at least receptive.

But nobody asked about the change, so by the time the executioner’s guns went silent the people’s guns had been taken away. By the time everyone was equal, they were equally poor, hungry, and oppressed. By the time everyone received their free education it was worth nothing. By the time the press noticed, it was too late, because they were now working for him. By the time the change was finally implemented Cuba had been knocked down a couple of notches to Third-World status. By the time the change was over more than a million people had taken to boats, rafts, and inner tubes. You can call those who made it ashore anywhere else in the world the most fortunate Cubans. And now I’m back to the beginning of my story.

Luckily, we would never fall in America for a young leader who promised change without asking, what change? How will you carry it out? What will it cost America?

Would we?

The weak-minded would Mannie…..

By Peadawg

August 21, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Peter @ 11:32

so Russia and Iran is Bush’s fault? give me a break. Obama won’t do anything about it…McCain will.

By CORRUPTION FIGHTER

August 21, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

WE DONT WANT MUSLIMS LEADING USA

NO HUSSEIN OBAMA IN WHITE HOUSE

By Peter

August 21, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

YES……….By Peadawg

August 21, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

Peter @ 11:32

so Russia and Iran is Bush’s fault? give me a break. Obama won’t do anything about it…McCain will.

I am sure he will be the guy to START WW III………

The whole world will be better off Blown UP….GREAT JOB !

Don’t you have kids or a family ?

Where is BIN LADEN…….. Why didn’t Bush do anything about Bin Laden ?

By Peadawg

August 21, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

The BIN LADEN issue is a good question I admit.

But I rather have a president that will fight for peace(McCain) than one that will go over there and just talk the talk(Obama)

By Chaz

August 21, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this

Still no answers Peter, just platitudes.

No substance, Nobama.

By Peter

August 21, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Chaz where is Bin Laden ?

Peadawg………. So you really think we are going to start a fight with Russia?

Don’t you get it……..America is the example……we invade Iraq, who says Russia can’t invade Georgia ?

Come on now folks……how many WARS do you think we are capable of fighting at the same time…….?

Where will we get the soldiers ?

By Reality

August 21, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this

Hey Peter,

Russia has been a bully since before Stalin. Putin has a PHD in Economics and is trying to put the old USSR back together again because it’s the smart thing to do for them. We need a leader with the know how, guts and credentials to stand up to him. This has nothing to do with current administration it’s about what Putin wants.

Iran wants to nuke Israel because they believe in a different 2000 year old fairy tale than the Israelis do. Religious wars predate the current administration by several thousand years. Religion will be down fall of all mankind.

The Taliban are coming back in Afghanistan because we choose to fight with one hand tied behind our backs and allow poppy to be grown and the enemy to hide across the border in Pakistan. We need to eliminate the entire poppy, let the population starve and kill the enemy no matter where they are. Fighting wars is hard, fighting stupidly is harder.

The US economy is tanking with housing leading the way because home values became over inflated due to bad loan products requiring no down payment. The harsh truth is a lot of American’s don’t deserve a home until they can change their poor financial and social habits. The current admistration didn’t make Americans have a negative savings rate, half of all marrrages end in divorce and one half of all children be raised without a father in the home.

By Fred

August 21, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

“The MAJOR JOKE here is no one wants taxes…….well guess what how is the deficit going to go away?”

You don’t balance the budget on the backs of ‘The Rich’, you do it by growing the economy, encouraging investments, generating jobs, with revenue increasing because more people are paying taxes… not by robbing ‘The Rich’ of the very capital they would invest or spend, driving the economy higher. Every time a dollar changes hands, it generates more taxes. Therefore, tax cuts generate higher revenues, and this has been demonstrated during the Reagan, Kennedy and GWBush administrations. The trick is finding a president willing to veto crazed spending initiatives, which W hasn’t been. Obama has said he wants to raise taxes because it would be more fair, not because it would balance the budget.

And by the way, GHWBush’s tax increases came about through a ‘compromise’ with the Democratic congress… and immediately led to a recession.

By tcoach

August 21, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

peter, you said Americans will get a President who will work, not vacation Didn’t your boy just get back from a vacation in Hawaii or was that someone else. Didn’t he stay in Hawaii while Gerogia was being attacked by Russia?

By frank

August 21, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

after “change”?

probably the sound of crickets chirping

or the sound of 40 oz’s of malt liquor slamming together in a toast.

By Redneck Convert

August 21, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

Well, I’m with the guy that says we need more godly Republican mayors for the cities.

By the time we get thru sticking it to the whiners and giving big tax cuts to the rich, the trouble makers will be begging to move out.

Have a good day everybody.

By frank

August 21, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

after “change”?

probably the sound of crickets chirping

or the sound of 40 oz’s of malt liquor slamming together in a toast.

By Peter

August 21, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this

Hey By tcoach………you don’t take a vacation?

Obama took a week off with his family………before the start of the entire election run.

Bush stayed on vacation while New Orleans was under water…….

Hey why don’t you find out for yourself, but anyone can tell you….BUSH has taken more time OFF than any US President EVER!

By Ray

August 21, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

The new Oblama campaign anthem …….

Slip slidin’ away,

Slip slidin’ away,

You know the nearer your destination,

The mo’ you keep slidin’ awaaaEEEyyy.

By Peter

August 21, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Ok for all who want more REPUBLICAN Leadership……..

Please explain how BUSH is expanding the economy ?

Why is America not BOOMING now since we have had a 8 year run with Bush ?

Where is BIN LADEN ?

By BS Aplenty

August 21, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

@@ @11:36

Brilliant post.

…and I just spewed half my Dunkin’ Donuts coffee laughing at the first part.

By Common Sense

August 21, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

To Reality:

I guess common sense is not a part of your attributes.

What exactly is American going to do? Now we are facing a hugh deficit, in 2 wars and a sinking economy. What exactly can McBush do except make a few statements like they matter.

It is amazing to me that anyone would send stupid comments on any blog.

I don’t believe that politicians are for this country. But I do know McClain has been in Congress for 26 years and has not distinguish himself as a leader.

Each year his campaign ran a deficit. McCain will cut taxes when American’s companies are not hiring freeze the oil tax. So who is going to pay for infrastruture?

Fred if cutting taxes is so right then why are the American Companies firing employees to the tune of 30,0000 to 60,000 a month. We already gave them a tax cut.

Economics 101 supply and demand. We have to spur the economy that is support small to mid-size businesses with infrastructure jobs. Tax the majors corporations who get to right-off more a lot of taxes anyway!

By dirty harry

August 21, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

By tcoach

With all due respect tcoach, Obama is not the president. As a matter of fact neither is McCain!

Vacations are allowed, the senate whom he serves is out on a recess.

What was he (Obama)to accomplish by hanging out…Have Biden and Durbin ready to ship out?

To Stand there like McCain with his two puppets Howdy Doody (Lindsey Graham) and the simpleton (Joe Lieberman) spouting slogans that don’t mean a thing.

PETER…

Yes, we seem to be a bit short of soldiers don’t we?

The only way we could incorporate all the wars McCain would like us to be involved in would be to re-enact the draft!

Chilling thought for all those “YOUNG REPUBLICANS” out there!

By Peter

August 21, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

Well McLost doesn’t even know how many houses he owns……..

SO you want that guy who is clueless about his own finances to RUN AMERICA ?

Pretty funny stuff !

By Peter

August 21, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Come on now By Peadawg…………. let’s get this real….

August 21, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

Change is the only thing we will have left in our pockets if he’s elected and he raises our taxes.

Change is what the American dollar is worth around the world after Bush !

Change is what your house is worth after Bush.

Change is what your bank account may be worth, if TAXES are not used to prop up the Banks…….

You guys are so funny today…..talking all tough Facing off against Russia, and in the mean time our Taxes will be used to prop UP the BANKING System, so we actually survive as an ECONOMY !

Where is the NEW money for the NEXT WAR you guys want to rage ?

By AmVet

August 21, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

As for conscription, I’m all for it. Though the Young Republicans at UGA would need to master French quickly when they left en masse for Montreal.

But the best plan BY FAR is Ralph Nader’s Draft at the Top:

President Bush believes that the war in Iraq is “worth the sacrifice.”

The question then becomes - sacrifice by whom?

What about George Bush’s daughters - Jenna and Barbara?

Prince Harry served in Afghanistan.

Senator Jim Webb and Senator John McCain each have a son who has served in Iraq.

During World War II four of Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s sons entered the armed forces, as did General Eisenhower’s son, John Eisenhower.

No double standard for them.

So, why not Jenna and Barbara Bush?

And why not military service for the children of all members of Congress - who have funded this criminal war in Iraq?

There is a certain moral authority to govern - setting an example - sharing in the sacrifice initiated by the White House - that escape George W. Bush and Dick Cheney and their enablers in Congress.

They have children who have declined to serve during the Iraq war.

While almost four thousand young American men and women have died in this needless, criminal war.

And tens of thousands have been seriously injured.

Why the double standard?

We have a simple cure for this double standard.

It’s called - draft at the top.

Pass a law that says this - whenever Congress and the White House take our country to war, all able-bodied military-age children of every member of Congress, the President and the Vice-President will be conscripted automatically into the armed forces.

Nader/Gonzalez supports draft at the top.

Clinton/Obama/McCain are opposed.

As we tour the country, seeking to get Nader/Gonzalez on the ballot, we will gather support for the draft at the top proposal.

By Peter

August 21, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

Come on now folks…..PLEASE tell us how BUSH and the Republican leadership has been expanding the ECONOMY……..?

By tcoach

August 21, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

Peter, Never said he did not but why live and complain about past events, Bush will be gonein a couple of months will you complain about then. But since you want to go over vacations and attendance record. Let’s talk about Mr. Obama’s.

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) “has missed the most votes of any Democratic presidential hopeful in the Senate over the last two months, including a vote on an Iran resolution he has blasted Sen. Hillary Clinton for supporting,” CNN reported November 2, 2007.[1] Since September 2007, Obama has missed 80 percent of Senate votes.

What would you say to that? I know some fact or figure that Bush did this or he did that. Now I am not saying that McCain is the answer but I am saying I would like my president to be there more than 20% of the time. I would also like someone to outline HOW he is going to bring about change. It is hard to balance a budget when you are talking about spending over 30 Billion in free givaways to taxpayers.

By Peter

August 21, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

That is pretty funny stuff By tcoach………Yes Bush will be Gone THANK GOD !

What most Americans see is the policies of Bush as the same policies of the Republican party !

America doesn’t want more of the policies that has created the deficit, and the current economy.

BUSH did zero to help America, what makes anyone actually believe McLost will do anything different……and for a guy who couldn’t tell you how many houses he owns……..well I doubt he can figure out how to run the economy!

Plus the guy was almost last in his flight school graduation class………..sorry the guy is not that bright, I guess you guys like to pick the BOTTOM Dwellers as leaders.

By dirty harry

August 21, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

tcoach…

You have been listening too long to Neil Boortz….Your claim about Obama is correct (but you narrow it down to running for president.)

The last time I looked he (Obama) is the ONLY democratic candidate for president.

And, what percentage of votes has he missed…. 45.5%

McCain on the other hand has missed 63.8%

By Common Sense

August 21, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Tcoach it is already reported the Mr. McClain has missed the most votes in the senate this year.

Tcoach do you object to the free give aways to Iraq? Do you object to the free give aways to corporate america who works for shareholders not regular working folks.

Tcoach: Do you actually believe the Deficit will disappear on it’s own?

Mr.McClain wants public financing and to use the money he raise for the race why don’t he think about saving some of the money?

McClain states I will hunt down Bin-laden, He stole that from Mr. Obama.

It’s amazing that McClain told the public what they wanted to hear on Saturday and now we think he is a leader.

By Peter

August 21, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

Gosh Please help me stop Laughing……….

“It is hard to balance a budget when you are talking about spending over 30 Billion in free givaways to taxpayers.”

I guess you may have forgotten about the 3 Trillion dollar WAR, that was brought upon America because of a Lie…………. the deficit because of the WAR……… the Falling Dollar because of the WAR…………. the failing economy because of the WAR………..the ever rising price of goods we buy because of the WAR !

Gosh 30 billion is a pi$$ in the toilet these days……..America spends 30 Billion a MONTH because of the WAR……..and you are crying about spending money at HOME to help AMERICANS !

Come on now let’s get REAL !

By Peadawg

August 21, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

Peter, what makes NoBlama any better…besides being democrat blah blah blah? I still can’t figure it out?

By tcoach

August 21, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Dirty Harry and peter, harry you want to say that the senate was on a recess. Then please explain why Mr. Obama had missed 82 of his chambers 346 votes. That means he was not voting on almost 1/4 of the issues. Some of the votes he missed were about, abortion, homeland security, bride safety,foreign aid, and an alternative min. tax, So no niether of the two candidates are President yet, but I feel that if you people are going to judge Mr. McCain on President Bush’s record it must only be fair to judge Mr. Obama on HIS OWN record. This does not concern one single political issue. I have no idea who I am going tovote for come november, but it scares me to vote for a man who either does not like to work or feels that he is too good and above being at work. Also what is you two extreamly enlightened souls think as a nation we should do to prevent another Cold War with Russia who is slowly becoming a power again. Also what to do with rouge national leaders, like the one in Iran. He has said it is his mission in life bring about the END TIMES of the world. Those are his words. So I ask oh so mighty ones how do we fix these issues. Have a nice pow wow peace talk.

By tcoach

August 21, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

Dirty Harry and peter, harry you want to say that the senate was on a recess. Then please explain why Mr. Obama had missed 82 of his chambers 346 votes. That means he was not voting on almost 1/4 of the issues. Some of the votes he missed were about, abortion, homeland security, bride safety,foreign aid, and an alternative min. tax, So no niether of the two candidates are President yet, but I feel that if you people are going to judge Mr. McCain on President Bush’s record it must only be fair to judge Mr. Obama on HIS OWN record. This does not concern one single political issue. I have no idea who I am going tovote for come november, but it scares me to vote for a man who either does not like to work or feels that he is too good and above being at work. Also what is you two extreamly enlightened souls think as a nation we should do to prevent another Cold War with Russia who is slowly becoming a power again. Also what to do with rouge national leaders, like the one in Iran. He has said it is his mission in life bring about the END TIMES of the world. Those are his words. So I ask oh so mighty ones how do we fix these issues. Have a nice pow wow peace talk.

By Peter

August 21, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

My answer………By Peadawg

August 21, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

Peter, what makes NoBlama any better…besides being democrat blah blah blah? I still can’t figure it out?

Actually I really DO NOT want to vote for Obama…….

That being said……… I never once voted for Bush, and realize the country has been heading in exactly the wrong direction under the Republican leadership…….

Had the Republicans picked a guy who was NOT about last in his Flight school education, and had picked a guy who was NOT a flip flopper I might have voted Republican.

McLost is basically a LOOSE CANNON……… we don’t need more WARS………he is the guy who would start WW III………

This is a guy who doesn’t know how many houses he own’s……… this is a guy who didn’t like the Bush policies……..them he flip flopped to get Republican backing.

This guy has little moral fabric……… he runs around with the modern day Benedict Arnold, and may pick him for VP……….

Sorry the guy may die next month as well……… he should retire and use his fingers to count his houses, and get in touch with his OWN Finances……..

By Peadawg

August 21, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

Peter, so who do you want to vote for? You’ve been on here bashing McCain all day, but said nothing about Nobama…so I figured you were a Democrat.

By hillbilly ragger

August 21, 2008 1:41 PM | Link to this

Peter @ 1.04, you ask of Obama’s supposed dereliction of duty, “What would you say to that?”

I’d say the campaigning process is too lengthy, but it’s really not the candidate’s fault that (for instance) the first primaries are held 11 months before the election.

If you want to win the party’s nomination, you’ve got to campaign. No way around it. If you want to win the general election, you’ve got to campaign. No way around it.

If your genuine concern is how Obama intends to conduct foreign policy, well, why not look at his position paper on the subject?

By Just Nasty and Mean

August 21, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this

Good afternoon Jim, et al,

Let’s look at Obama:

1) His mother, whom he calls “ the dominate figure in his formative years, was a long-term cultural Marxist, a member of the Communist Party USA, and radical leftist, and met Barack Obama Sr. studying Russian in Hawaii.. Quoting Obama, “The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics.”

2) His father, Kenyan Barack Obama Sr. converted from Christianity to Muslim, He studied at University of Hawaii where as part of a program supported by leftist Harry Belafonte, Jackie Robinson and Sydny Poitier. He married Barack Jr’s mother in spite of the fact he had not divorced his 1st wife (Kezia) in Kenya with whom he had 4 children—all of whom he abandoned.

He left his second wife, Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Jr. when he was only 2 years old and only saw him one more time when he was 10 years old. He later had several children with a Kenyan woman, only known as Jael. Obama, Jr. has had limited, and in fact no contact with several of his siblings. Obama has twice met his youngest brother, George Hussein Onyango Obama who still lives in rote poverty in a 2X3 meter mud hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi Kenya on less than a dollar a month.

Obama claims his favorite Bible verse is “Whatsoever you do to the least among your brethern, you do unto me”-Matthew 25:40”.

3) Combine these with Obama’s associations with Rev.(hate America) Jeremiah Wright, (proud confessed Pentagon bomber and NY police precinct murderer) Bill Ayers, (radical racist) Michael Pfleger,

4) Consider his wife, Michelle, who studied African-American Studies at Princeton. At Harvard, she protested for the hiring of minority professors. On the campaign trail, Michelle blurted :“For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country.

That’s just Obama’s close associates. It doesn’t include his radical positions to nationalize the world’s best healthcare system, his naive notions on the war, on meeting foreign America-hater dictators, tax and spend positions during a weak economy.

Combine them, and the picture of who Obama REALLY IS emerges. His campaign is based on Change. The real question is Change to what?

This man is SCARY and after only 143 days in the Senate before declaring for President, Obama is just too unknown to be the leader of the free world.

By Emma

August 21, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Can we demand a draft for only the Republican’s kids since all of the Democrats kids are homeless, have no health care, on welfare, work 0-10 jobs at one time, barely finish high school, have kids out of wedlock, and go fishin every Saturday. Welll it looks like the DemoKids are dysfunctional, better get the RepubKids geared up!!!! GO McCAIN!

By Peter

August 21, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

I have been an independent almost my entire life………

I have my own business that is starting it’s 22nd year……

I want to see America heading in the correct direction……..

I pay a un-Godly amount of taxes each year……. typically more than the typical American makes in a year.

I see the bilking of America, I see the WAR was a lie, I see it was about controlling the oil.

I see America has to go a different direction with Energy, transportation, with humanity…….caring for Americans………. and especially the polluting of America……..

What about your kids and Grand kids………don’t they deserve clean water, safe energy, fish to eat ?

Do you realize how many DEAD spots there are in the oceans today ? What are we going to eat if the ocean stops supporting the creatures we enjoy eating ?

I don’t agree at all with corn for fuel……. that is a huge waste……… and the pollution form the run off is killing our water ways and the gulf of Mexico.

If we spend $350 billion dollars a year to improve America, maybe I would think differently…… but not for WAR !

We were not attacked, it was BIN LADEN, and his crew…….. why didn’t we show the world we are not going to allow that, and why didn’t we get him ?

I think we need to go back to when American’s were rebuilding the infrastructure of America.

Let Americans build the infrastructure, put people to work, tax them, and pay off the debt…….

Bush has killed the American Dream……..

I find it hard to cozy up to the party that has basically destroyed America in so many ways, while allowing for a few to get wealthy off the BILKING OF AMERICA !

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 21, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Dear Corruption @ 11:04, great essay, thanks for sharing.

Dear PoFo @ 11:19, you beg a serious question: what is a vote for Obama FOR? I know what he claims not to be – George Bush – but exactly what is he? Should we not vote FOR a person instead of AGAINST one? Why vote FOR Obama? How does he make the world safer? (His initial Georgia response did not inspire.) How does he reduce wasteful domestic spending? (Seems to me he only increases it.) How will he make us freer, and what policy does he offer that will make the private economy grow? (A tax increase on an slowing economy?) It seems to me that everything he proposes to do is a program that has failed at the local level in every major city in the country.

Dear CID @ 11:24, you highlight the difference between conservatives and leftists. Conservatives magnify ideas, but Leftists magnify the speaker. Such is the nature of a personality cult.

Dear Fred @ 12:26, I would add one note to your fine argument: “spending reductions.”

Dear Frank @ 12:33, and thereafter the sound of drunks steering the economy into a tree.

Dear Peter @ 12:46 and countless other mindless times, “Please explain how BUSH is expanding the economy?” Tax cuts primarily. “Why is America not BOOMING now since we have had a 8 year run with Bush ?” Because democrats took over two years ago and ran the economy straight into the ground via (1) compelling all to burn food as gasoline, and (2) raising the minimum wage and unemployment rates. “Where is BIN LADEN?” Presiding over a crumbling empire, watching everything he built collapse amid US bombs. Thanks to whom? (jbmlaw view – anyone – McCain or Obama - who claims he will “get bin Laden” is a fool. They’re still chasing Pancho Villa in Mexico, and he’s probably hiding in Chicago. A smart person, in contrast, works first to wreck the terrorist organization, to ensure it can never act again.)

Dear Common @ 12:46, “Economics 101 supply and demand. We have to spur the economy that is support small to mid-size businesses with infrastructure jobs. Tax the majors corporations who get to right-off more a lot of taxes anyway!” I think the Phillips Curve (Keynesian Econ 101) is discredited since 1979, but tax cuts (supply side Econ 101) seem to have staying power.

By dirty harry

August 21, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

By tcoach

August 21, 2008 1:26 PM

tcoach, I could make it real simple for you here, and just state the figures above as a reference Obama missed 45.4% of votes in the senate he cast 348

Compare that to McCain who missed a whopping 63.8% and cast only 231 votes.

In July McCain missed every single energy bill brought to the floor!

He was the crucial absent vote for legislation stripping away tax giveaways to big oil!

In February, McCain skipped a vote on extending tax credits to renewables, which also failed by one vote. Both times, McCain was the only senator absent.

I could go on here, but understand..You are going to lose the arguement no matter how you want to write it!

By T

August 21, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

Experience: Would you send soldiers into battle with the leadership of a young kid who has a 4yr degree and less than 1yr of service?

Answer: Yes, we like to call him LT.

Experience: Would you send troops to war with the leadership of someone who has a 4yr degree in accounting and 4yrs of service?

Answer: Yes, we like to call him Captain.

Why should I vote for McCain?

Your reasoning: Obama won’t stand up to our aggressors. What aggressors? Russia, N. Korea, Iran? I thought Bin Laden was our aggressor, yet no one has stood up to him.

Your reasoning: Obama will raise my taxes. OK, so how do you want to fund these wars you are so willing to start? How would you like to fund stopping illeagal immigration?

Better yet, how do we pay the soldiers already employed? How are we going to pay the soldiers that hit the lucky lotto McCain wants to impose? How do we pay for all of the other military and veteran benifits? How do we repair the military equipment already in use? How do we fund the hospitals that injured soldiers go to? Oh, privatization right. Your right it should be up to the individual to make his own hospital payments right. I mean it’s not my fault he doesn’t have good medical benifits.

If you really want to go to all of these places to see who has the biggest johnson. Fine. Then yes, I’m with McCain on that. THE DRAFT. I believe that is the only way for this to become real for most people. We do not have the soldiers to go fight all of these wars!

By Just Nasty and Mean

August 21, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this

Good afternoon Jim, et al,

Let’s look at Obama:

1) His mother, whom he calls “ the dominate figure in his formative years, was a long-term cultural Marxist, a member of the Communist Party USA, and radical leftist, and met Barack Obama Sr. studying Russian in Hawaii.. Quoting Obama, “The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics.”

2) His father, Kenyan Barack Obama Sr. converted from Christianity to Muslim, He studied at University of Hawaii where as part of a program supported by leftist Harry Belafonte, Jackie Robinson and Sydny Poitier. He married Barack Jr’s mother in spite of the fact he had not divorced his 1st wife (Kezia) in Kenya with whom he had 4 children—all of whom he abandoned.

He left his second wife, Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Jr. when he was only 2 years old and only saw him one more time when he was 10 years old. He later had several children with a Kenyan woman, only known as Jael. Obama, Jr. has had limited, and in fact no contact with several of his siblings. Obama has twice met his youngest brother, George Hussein Onyango Obama who still lives in rote poverty in a 2X3 meter mud hut in a ramshackle town of Huruma on the outskirts of Nairobi Kenya on less than a dollar a month.

Obama claims his favorite Bible verse is “Whatsoever you do to the least among your brethern, you do unto me”-Matthew 25:40”.

3) Combine these with Obama’s associations with Rev.(hate America) Jeremiah Wright, (proud confessed Pentagon bomber and NY police precinct murderer) Bill Ayers, (radical racist) Michael Pfleger,

4) Consider his wife, Michelle, who studied African-American Studies at Princeton. At Harvard, she protested for the hiring of minority professors. On the campaign trail, Michelle blurted :“For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country.

That’s just Obama’s close associates. It doesn’t include his radical positions to nationalize the world’s best healthcare system, his naive notions on the war, on meeting foreign America-hater dictators, tax and spend positions during a weak economy.

Combine them, and the picture of who Obama REALLY IS emerges. His campaign is based on Change. The real question is Change to what?

This man is SCARY and after only 143 days in the Senate before declaring for President, Obama is just too unknown to be the leader of the free world.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 21, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

Dear Ragger @ 1:41, is that this week’s position paper, or last week’s?

By tcoach

August 21, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

You all have serious issues with grouping. Why does it have to be that a member of this party has to be acertain way. You people speak about what has happened in the last 8 years. I agree has been a horrible presidency and far too much has went wrong. But before you all crown the democrates as saviors do not forget that things have also taken a harse slop downward since we elected all of those dems. into the senate. They also went into office with huge promisses and it turned out that Nancy Pelosi was not quit the saving grace she claimed to be. Seems like she left some of her supporters wondering what happened about ALL the promises you made in your campaign?

By Emma

August 21, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Just Nasty and Mean You said Obama is SCARY Did you go back and reread what you had written? You are SCARY and combine all that frustration, research, and typing I can only conclude, that you work from home, been married 2-3 times, drive a 88 volvo, your great great grand parents were Grand Wizards of the KKK, you have invented something, and probalby attended MIT. You need to CHANGE LOL

By Peter

August 21, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

Hey………By Ragnar Danneskjöld……

The Congress has given itself 5 or 6 raises, in the middle of the night during the Bush Administration……and America has raised the minimum wage once during the last 10 years or so.

You are a funny guy !

By Tom

August 21, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

jbm/Ragnar @ 1:58: Before you go blathering again about your “Kantian” bona fides, you’d best brush up on the meaning of “beg the question.” As so many times before, your use of that phrase is simply wrong. Like, fundamentally, everything else you write. I’m sure you wow the slip-n-fall yahoos you service, but your “reflections” make no headway at all with the over-70-IQ crowd.

By dirty harry

August 21, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

Dear Peter @ 12:46 ..

Nice try JBM!

But, one who pawns himself off as a lawyer you should know from various civics classes a majority of 60 is required in the senate and a 2/3 majority in the congress.

And, if you pay attention you would have noticed that the republicans OBSTRUCT almost every bill the democrats try to pass.

This circus the republicans are envolved in at this very moment .. Drill, Drill, Drill is testimony to the fact!

Where were these so called energy experts 8 years ago???

Bob Ney, Duke Cunningham, Rick Foley, Vito Fossella, Dan Young, Ted Stevens, Tom DeLay, Larry Craig.

They were not passing good policy…But, lining their own pockets or extracting something from their pants!

By Who?

August 21, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Just like the “oppressor”…

The oppressor wants to abuse you and beat you up (and down).

Then he wants to villify you when you rise up and fight back, givning him a healthy dose of his own medicine.

This is the oppressor’s way.

By Jake

August 21, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

Ragnar - Supply side is dead. The first tenet, the Laffer curve, was totally invalidated by the 0.3% average annual growth in tax revenues from 1981-1990 following the tax cuts, compared to the 3.1% from 1991-2000 following the tax increases. These are on a real tax revenue per tax payer basis. Secondly, look at the real per person GDP rates in the same periods and again they grew much faster in the 90’s than the 80’s. The only supply side myth that still lingers is that the Reagan tax cuts of the early 80’s created the GDP growth in the 90’s.

By Miltie

August 21, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

The tax revenues in the ’90s were based on the internet boom that was built on ‘industries’ that built nothing and collapsed once everyone realized speculation wasn’t enough to sustain an economy. (A lot like real estate now.)

The balanced budgets (all two of them) of the Clinton years were a result of that unsustainable boom and a GOP congress in gridlock with the Dem president. Fiscally, we should aspire to that kind of gridlock in the future. Sadly.

By Truthifier

August 21, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

Obama is reeling? Give me a break! While his lead has diminished recently, he is still AHEAD of McCain in the polls. Jim, as usual, is ignoring the facts in order to make his point.

According to Jim’s logic, or lack of logic, unless Obama is beating McCain by some mysterious, and never named, percentage spread he isn’t winning. A win is a win, whether it is by 1 percentage point or by 20. Those of us who supported Hillary Clinton in the primaries know that very well.

My question is, if McCain is so qualified to be President based on his, admittedly inspring, military service and his 26 years in Congress, how is it that he can’t get ahead of a newcomer whom he says isn’t qualified to lead?

Af far as what Obama would actually do to “change” things, all you have to do is look at the Senator’s website to see that he has detailed plans for: Civil Rights, Defense, Disabilities, Economy, Education, Energy and Environment, Ethics, Faith, Family, Fiscal issues, Foreign Policy, Healthcare, Homeland Security, Immigration, Iraq, Poverty, Rural concerns, Seniors and Social Security, Technology, Urban Policy, and Veterans.

www.barackobama.com - check it out!

Of course, Jim doesn’t want you to do that since it would expose his misinformation campaign.

By Just Nasty and Mean

August 21, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Emma @ 2:09

What you can’t handle, and do not dispute is the information on Obama is correct. It uses his own words and it speaks to who Obama REALLY is—-a Marxist with the resume of a mud puddle.

In CLASSIC liberal fashion, when you cannot dispute the facts you resort to name-calling and personal destruction.

You couldn’t be more wrong. Most of the info I offered comes from directly from Wikipedia, a public resource.

You missed on every single point in describing me. I will offer you this: I am your worst nightmare—a self made multimillionaire with WAY too much time on my hands.

You, on the other hand, are a frustrated black person that has succumbed to victimhood and drank the liberal democrap Kool-Aid that your candidate—the messiah and your savior—has indoctrinated you with since childhood. You blame others for your lot in life and feel your path to happiness is by righteously taking from others that which they have EARNED—simply because it is unfair.. You drive an old honda or hyundai, likely never married but with multiple kids, lower class, mostly overweight, barely know your father and the independent