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One Joe, yes. Please. But not two.

Please, make it Joe.

Make Joe the VP.

Joe Lieberman, the Independent U.S. Senator from Connecticut who caucuses with the Democrats, came to Atlanta Monday with the Republicans’ presidential candidate for a fund-raiser. The speculation — and concern — was that John McCain was shopping Lieberman as his running mate. If so, it didn’t go over well. McCain’s base is growing comfortable with him as the nominee, reassured by his aggressiveness in taking on the post-European global citizen, Barack Obama, and by his sterling performance in the Saddleback Church conversations with Pastor Rick Warren.

Don’t blow it now. Joe, no. Surveying the entire Republican Party and concluding that there’s nobody there who’d be a suitable vice president is a message McCain doesn’t want to send.

Ah, but there is a Joe, a fine Joe, who would be a spectacular choice for vice president. That’d be Joe Biden, U.S. Senator, Deleware, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

There’d be great tension, of course. Both are talkers. Talk and talk and talk. Morning and night. Vapid, empty, meaningless, meandering rhetoric. With Obama and Biden, America could revive the presidency of Warren Harding.

About him it was said by Georgia native William G. McAdoo, Treasury Secretary under Woodrow Wilson, that his campaign speeches were “an army of pompous phrases moving over the landscape in search of an idea. Sometimes these meandering words actually capture a straggling thought and bear it triumphantly, a prisoner in their midst, until it died of servitude and overwork.”

And arrogance? If there’s a politician in America who matches Obama for arrogance, it’s Joe Biden. Instead of the annual Easter Egg Roll on the White House lawn, we could have an Arrogance Face-Off at 20 paces. This is a tough one. My money in that contest is on Biden. He’s far more experienced.

But with a little seasoning, “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for” could be the Michael Phelps of political arrogance.

Oh, the suspense of it all. Who will it be? Who is the other one we’ve been waiting for?

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By Ray

August 20, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

Yawn. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

By T

August 20, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

For me it doesn’t really matter who you pair ethier of them with. I will be voting for the one who scares me the least.

By Curt

August 20, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

You’re a hack. Nothing more, nothing less.

By Peter

August 20, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

Yes from a funny point of view McLost can pick the present day Benedict Arnold……..Joe Lieberman…….

He can then become the only guy in history that lost the VP from each party !

Yes a nice Jewish Guy for the Right Wing Conservative cause !

Heck he is another WAR monger……… he makes perfect sense for McLost !

By Ga Values

August 20, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

Jim did you get your colume from the Washington Post??

GOP leaders try to foil Lieberman pick Pro-choice views trouble conservatives Ralph Z. Hallow (Contact) Wednesday, August 20, 2008

Republican Party officials in several states are in a frenzy over how to persuade Sen. John McCain not to invite pro-choice Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman to be the Arizona senator’s running mate.

One of the state GOP officials said he talked with two “high-level” Mr. McCain campaign officials who said that “Lieberman is a very real possibility.”

Mr. Lieberman, a former Democrat who was Al Gore’s running mate in 2000, is now an independent who caucuses with the Democrats in the Senate.

McCain campaign officials made a series of conference calls Monday and Tuesday with supporters around the country to discuss the possibility of naming a Democrat or a pro-choice Republican to the ticket, a GOP source confided.

Mr. McCain last week played up former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, a pro-choice Republican, as a possible running mate. Mr. Ridge was President Bush’s first secretary of homeland security. Conservatives and evangelicals threw cold water on the idea.

All the while, McCain confidant Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, has been making the case for Mr. Lieberman, a Republican official said.

Concerned state GOP officials on Tuesday discussed by telephone and e-mail whether to organize delegates to reject Mr. Lieberman if his name comes up for a floor vote for the vice presidential nomination at the Republican National Convention - if Mr. McCain actually does name him, either before or at the beginning of the Sept. 1-4 Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minn.

But heading off a Lieberman pick beforehand would avoid having to embarrass the GOP nominee by publicly rejecting his judgment on the choice for vice president at a convention watched on television by much of the nation.

Whether Mr. Lieberman would transform the McCain campaign into a bipartisan winner or a disaster is open to debate.

The McCain campaign has said the Arizona senator might choose someone who is “transformational” for American politics - a vice presidential pick who would be “out of the box.”

By yankee

August 20, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

First you have to get Joe’s head out of McSames butt.

By Corey

August 20, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

Off topic. “Gwinnett Police Chief Suspended For Ten Days Without Pay” Where is the blog, AJC? If Atlanta’s police chief or Dekalb’s or Clayton’s made the same headline you would have a blog up before the ink drys. Why is that? Just wondering.

By ghost rider

August 20, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

Of the three That are mentioned. Biden, Kaine or Bayh the only one that I find palpable would be Biden.

I would have preferred either Wesley Clark, Bill Richardson or Hillary Clinton.

As far as Joe Lieberman I hope McCain selects the little weasel!

By ByteMe

August 20, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this

There really are “two Americas”. The one most of the rest of us live in and the one inhabited by the Wacky Woot-ers.

Wooten continues his theme of “I don’t have anything really smart to say about McCain, so I’ll bash the Obama to maintain my Republican hack credentials.” Woot!!

By Peter

August 20, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

Hey By BFKaJ………. I gotta say I am not sure I believe you on the Bank thing………..there had to be some small bank some where that went under for some reason……but maybe not……..

I like Lieberman for McLost’s VP choice……. add some fun to the situation !

I did enjoy By yankees ‘s comment !

By Road scholar

August 20, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

Obama arrogant, again? How trite! He’s an elitist also Jim, you left that out.

How about McCain? He REALLY knows what the average Joe (pardon the pun) is having to deal with! His wife’s credit card bills run in the $100,000”s each month. He has how many houses (at what value? Before the Bush economy) He does not even invite and talk to us common people making him accessible to the masses. Arrogant indeed!

By atlin83

August 20, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this

Funny - I heard Woot’s anti-Biden, as well as a lot of his tired anti-Obama rhetorical devices (post-European global citizen) on Hannity the other day in my boss’s office. Tuning into AM for inspiration, Jim?

Another post-European global citizen could be Ronald Reagan, who, when speaking to the U.N. Special Assembly for Disarmament in 1982, said: “I speak today as both a citizen of the United States and of the world.”

By juan

August 20, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

See, no Chicanos on either short list???

Dees is bull s**…they want our vote and say they

will help get us more welfare benefits…but……

ees alll talk.

By Michael

August 20, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

If you had any “common sense” you would not be a conservative. Anyone that votes Republican after the last 8 years is seriously deluded.

PS - Your boy Bush was never “arrogant”?

By Tyler Durden

August 20, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

Jeez, Jim. You’re getting more and more hackneyed and unoriginal in your partisan posturing every day. I think McSame could really use some JoeMentum in his campaign!!! After all, when’s the last time he offered a message that promoted his own ideas vs. merely trying to scare voters away from the only real opportunity to do anything differently in Washington?

America deserves legitimate change, not just re-hashed demagoguery from someone too cowardly to defend his own family from Karl Rove in 2000. Is this the best you guys can do? Really?

Yawwwwwnnnnnnnn.

By juan

August 20, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

o myyy mon. no Chicanos on short list.

they promise to get us more welfare and want our

vote, but eees all tal.

By Redneck Convert

August 20, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

Well, it don’t matter who is the VP. It’s as plain as the nose on your face that old man McCain done won this election. That 10% that say they ain’t made up their mind just don’t want to tell the poll people they won’t vote for one of Those People. When November comes around they will go to the polls and vote for McCain.

I’m mighty thankful to the Clinton woman for giving McCain the road map to winning. He didn’t even have to come up with a new campaign. Just attack Obama the way she attacked him. She’s the best Republican we got. Only she don’t know it.

So we will get nothing done for four more years. The librul Democrats in Congress will vote for librul things and old man McCain will veto them. Old man McCain will hand down budgets and name judges and the librul Democrats will say no.

So the VP might as well be Joe Sixpack. He won’t have much to do. Maybe break a tie in the Senate ever now and then.

McCain 08: He’ll keep the wars going and Those People in their place.

By jasper

August 20, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

Face it libbies, NObama’s only chance now is to pick the Hildabeast. The Dream On ticket.

By Just Nasty and Mean

August 20, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

G’mornin JIm, et al,

The problem is this: Conservatives are horrified that an empty suit, inexperienced, lightweight like Obama could even be considered for dog catcher, much less than President of the US and leader of the free world.

McCain knows this. He could, basically, do anything he wants—include choose Liberman—-and those conservatives that vote— will vote for him~~or against Obama. Any logical conservative knows a vote for Barr is a vote wasted to defeat Obama.

McCain can stick his finger in the conservatives’ eye a million times, and he would still be better than the shallow, gelatinousness unprincipled mud puddle Obama is.

By Copyleft

August 20, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

Lieberman would be a great choice.

He’s the conservative’s favorite type of Democrat—a Republican one.

By ghost rider

August 20, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten…Arrogance? Indeed!

Biden can’t help the fact that his experience, knowledge and intellect are far superior to that of SAY, Lindsey Grahahm, Joe Lieberman or John McCain.

It’s just a fact!

If anyone should be accused of arrogance it should be John McCain.

An intellectual lightweight who has used his POW “War Hero” nonsense into the world of ad nauseum!

Here is what a fellow POW who spent more time in the Hanoi Hilton than McCain said about him…And, it’s not good!

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/08/omfg-fellow-pow-says-he-will-n.php

By SaveOurRepublic

August 20, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

Like RINO “Juan McAmnasty”, Joe Lieberman is misperceived by some folks as being “right-leaning”. Also like McAmnasty, Lieberman is totally beholden to AIPAC (& an open Zionist). Lieberman’s voting record is largely anti-2nd Amendment & pro NAFTA (which has gutted the U.S. manufacturing base & is the foundation for the North American Union/SPP). If the Manchurian Candidate McManiac selects Lieberman, he will indeed lose royally in November. From a GOP prospective, he’d be wise to select a running mate who’s perceived as being more “conservative”. Ultimately however, McAmnasty will pick a fellow puppet of the Globalist Elite…it’s just a matter of who.

http://www.baldwin2008.com

By T

August 20, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

Why does McCain have a yellow tone on TV? Is it just my set?

By Joeventures

August 20, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

The way McCain has been acting lately, a proper VP “Joe” pick for him would be McCarthy.

By Common Sense

August 20, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

To Mean and Nasty,

I guess it’s o.k. to have a 400 trillion dollar deficit. Have a presidential candidate who states ( I do not know much about the economy) and constantly talk about a war with 5 to 10 thousand militants.

Wow! I guess I should become a conservative so I will make sure their is nothing left for my kids,relatives and friends because McClain is going to cut taxes when the deficit is climbing.

Can someone tell me how do you cut taxes and finance a war?

Let’s see unemployment is up, Companies continue reducing their payroll

By CJ

August 20, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

Arrogance is when a presidential candidate sends his two acolytes, Twiddle-Eee and Twiddle-Dum (Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman), on a foreign fact-finding mission to Georgia.

If that’s not presumptuous, I don’t know what is.

John McCain: “There is such a thing as good international citizenship, and America must be a good citizen of the world

Jim Wooten’s double-standards and pretzel logic are, once again, on display for all to see.

By BFKaJ

August 20, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. Funny morning essay Jim, my compliments. As I am a humorless drudge, I’ll write as if the material is serious. The radio this morning says Biden affirms that he is not the guy, and I accept that as truth. I thought Biden was the best potential president among the democrat nominees, his personal limitations – highlighted in Jim’s essay – notwithstanding. Since I cannot deliver a straight compliment about someone like Biden, I will assert that he is a democrat Cheney. Given Biden’s affirmation, Evan Bayh now must be the prohibitive favorite in Las Vegas. The other folks that are mentioned prominently – mostly Kaine and Sibelius – have huge deficiencies that alone could drag down the Obama ticket. Whatever limitations Chauncey suffers, he does have good political advisors.

Similarly, even if boring old Joe Lieberman is my favorite democrat still on the national stage, he is not an appropriate choice for Republican vice president. Mitt would be the best potential choice, for a host of reasons, although there are several other good candidates (the Minnesota governor, Pawlenty, is growing on me.) I understand Mr. McCain intends to announce his selection on his own birthday – I infer he will give himself the best choice for his celebration.

By AmVet

August 20, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

Oh, Jim! Georgia native William G. McAdoo?

McAwho?

Partisans should not feign being erudite historians. What next? A series of Ronnie’s greatest quotes?

McCain’s only real hope is to choose someone who will not drive away…….wait for it……..the independents, the moderates, the disillusioned Democrats and the repulsed Republicans, etc.

Bush’s “base” of ostriches, flat earth bible thumpers and cowardly chest pounders cannot really help or hurt the Az. senator. Those who obediently vote for anyone with an R after their name will do so, no matter who is running. And after the past two elections, no matter how unqualified they are.

As will the closet racists this time.

And most of the Talibaptists who don’t think the RINO is up their almost-moral neo-con standards will not - regardless of how much lip service he pays them, their whacked out worldview or some nutty preacher.

And most of the worst bigots in Dixie probably don’t vote anyway (trouble reading the ballot, donchaknow) and will stay home and rage at the machine.

The fact is that the average “conservative” GOP voter who still apparently has no inkling what conservatism is, is now shown to be so completely gullible and ignorant, all McCain needs to do is just not say anything more dumb than usual.

And to pick anybody but one of the regular Republican f&ckups who have been on the scene, for say, oh, the last twenty years!

Good luck with that John…

By Truthifier

August 20, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

I suppose Mr. Wooten is not aware that Senator Obama’s “We are the one’s we have been waiting for” statement is drawn from the title of a collection of essays by Georgia writer Alice Walker, who in turn got the phrase from poet June Jordan. Nonetheless, I’m actually still confused as to why Mr. Wooten and his friends are bothered by the statement. One would think it would be a phrase that would resonate with conservatives who preach self-reliance and responsibility, no? (i.e. “pull yourself up by your own bootstraps”) I suspect that if Senator McCain had uttered the same phrase Mr. Wooten would be praising him for his eloquence.

With regard to the arrogance of Senator Biden, sure, the guy is very much aware of how intelligent he is. Are there really people who want to have a president who is not confident about their ability to do the job?!

By BFKaJ

August 20, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Dear Peter @ 9:08, I heard your prayer (“Lord, help me in my unbelief”) so this may help: http://www4.fdic.gov/HSOB/SelectRpt.asp?EntryTyp=30

Lots of fun statistics there. From January 1, 1934 through December 31, 2004, 3,553 financial institutions failed, an average of 50 per year. (Please note, that 1/1/34 was after the huge number of post-crash bank failures – only nine institutions failed in 1934.) From 1982 – 1993, 2,858 institutions failed; this is 80% of the failures in the 70+ year history of deposit insurance, and an average of 240 institutions per year during that period. Thus, excluding the 12-year spike during the oil patch and thrift crisis, the historical average for FDIC has been one failure per month, with a broad cyclical variance lagging the national economy.

Juan @ 9:09 asks a good question: what happened to Richardson? He’s Hispanic, New Mexico is a swing state by everyone’s analysis. I forgot about Richardson too. Is it that he is radioactive with the Hillary supporters?

By ghost rider

August 20, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Headline from the Associated Press circa 2000!

“Joe Lieberman Was The Democratic Vice Presidential Prick —”

True? you bet. In more ways than one!

By findog

August 20, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

Wow, a politician that is in love with the sound of his own voice. Senator Biden would even up the family involvement with the war as him and Senator McCain both have sons serving, or have served, our nation in its current theatres of conflict.

Biden was also, like McCain, out early with plans to significantly improve the Iraq conflict. McCain had the surge, which has turned out to be one of the leading reasons he is POTUS material. Biden has the political solution, which is to split it into three autonomous regions. Had they been done together we would have seen the full benefit of McCain’s stance to solve the crisis.

I believe that while Biden can talk so long he has gone a paragraph too far; hoping he is Senator Obama’s running mate may actually prove to be Carderian in wishing for the one challenger that may be able to turn the election away from you.

By bc

August 20, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Heck, I remember 8 years ago when I decided Joe Lieberman was the best choice for president when the other choices were Bush, Gore, Cheney…Problem was he was running with an idiot named Gore. McCain-Lieberman sounds OK to me, maybe as good as McCain-Romney.

By SaveOurRepublic

August 20, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

CJ @ 9:41 AM - Good observation of McCain’s internationalist pandering comments. This is further proof that “Juan McAmnasty” is just as much of a Globalist pawn as is “Bacrock Obummer”…

  • Regarding illegal and legal immigration, both Barack Obama and John McCain support the Third World invasion of the United States, and thus are guilty of treason.

  • Both Barack Obama and John McCain advocate ruinous free trade agreements, which undermine our economy but gutting the manufacturing base, outsourcing thosands of American jobs & opening the door for the sovereignty erasing North American Union. (Conservatives historically have opposed ideological free trade, but many in the GOP have been “neoconned” on this issue.)

  • Both Barack Obama and John McCain are interventionists, the former supporting war in Darfur, the latter in Iraq and Iran. The transformation of the Middle East (or anywhere else) to liberal “democracy” is Wilsonian internationalism, not conservatism.

http://www.conservativeexodusproject.com

By KnowItAll

August 20, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

*I don’t know if I could stand to watch Joe Biden’s changing hair plugs for the next 4-8 years. *

If this guy isn’t a vain, arrogant prick, I don’ t know one.

By AnyBodyBut

August 20, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this

As long as it’s not Mitt Romney I don’t care who it is.

By Greg

August 20, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Picking Lieberman for VP would put some actual excitement into McCain’s campaign for the independents and moderates who are caught between the most liberal US Senator and a formerly independent-minded conservative maverick who went off the rails when he started doing things like speaking at Liberty University. McCain should look back to the ideas of an old Arizona senator, Barry Goldwater. Quit pandering to the Christian Coalition and focus on issues that matter to the mainstream voter, like reining in federal spending, gaining energy security, fixing entitlement programs, and free trade. If McCain’s VP is Lieberman I’m all-in for this campaign. Otherwise I’m lukewarm about voting.

By AnyBodyBut

August 20, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

Our republic needs to be saved from people like “Save Our Republic”.

By AmVet

August 20, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this

Romney (or large and lazy Fred, or 9/11 Rudy or ANY of those other humiliated candidates) would be a disaster for McCain’s chances.

I can picture it now! McCain and Flip-flopping Lurch at the GOP love fest in St. Paul standing their with their arms around each other.

Good morning. President Obama…

By @@

August 20, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

NOT YOU TOO JIM!!!!!!!

While I see Joe Biden as the “Average Joe Blow” (moderate centrist) — all other conservatives see him as “Joe Blows” hard, but BFKaJ’s right……Joe is on camera as saying, matter of factly, “I’m not the guy.”

Without Joe Biden, OBlahMa loses. With Hillary Clinton, he looks like a Popeye’s Whimpy. He loses again.

With Sebelius, the late-term abortion issue becomes up-close and too personal. Both are guilty in their support of. He loses.

And Bayh? The far-left won’t tolerate Bayh. He loses.

The Novice/Nunn cloisteredfluke would lose as well. That’s just the nookid truth.

How in the heck did the dems let this political trainwreck happen? Hillary supporters know — they’ll be singing in the non-conventional choir.

By AnyBodyBut

August 20, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this

Exactly Greg. This is an opportunity to prove once and for all that a moderate doesn’t need right wing garbage to win an election. McCain has the opportunity to take back the Republican party from those who hijacked and destroyed it. Electoral power resides in the middle. Not on the wings. I say good riddance to right wing rubbish.

By ghost rider

August 20, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

@@..BFK..

“Joe Biden on camera saying I’m not the guy”

From what I understand, and was reported last night…None of the so-called three in the running have a clue.

Stay tuned!

By getalife "whiners"

August 20, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

There ya go Jim. Just laugh at these two corrupt frauds.

One spews change, unity, a new kind politics, blah, blah, blah, and the other calls himself a maverick, country first, drill, drill, drill, blah, blah, blah.

What a freaking joke.

By SaveOurRepublic

August 20, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

AnyBodyBut @ 10:36 AM - You couldn’t be more incorrect. This Republic needs a return to the Constitutional principles it was founded on! Perhaps you slept through Civics class, but this Nation has taken a drastic turn (by design) from the precepts it was founded on. I strongly suggest you stop buying the (controlled) “mainstream” media fodder that’s constantly spoon-fed to the largely deceived masses. As I’ve said before, the “Left vs. Right” paradigm is largely a fallacy meant to pacify and deceive the sheeple into thinking they have a true “choice” between controlled Globalist puppet A (McAmnasty) and puppet B (Obummer).

http://www.jbs.org

By The Oddball

August 20, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

Regrettably, one of your worst columns ever. No substance, only namecalling and sarcasm. OK, you don’t like Sen. Obama or Sen. Biden, but that does not a political column make.

If you have a principled criticism of Sen. Biden based on a thorough and fair observation of the facts and well-reasoned analysis, then write it. Otherwise, you only contribute more bile to a political atmosphere that already is toxic enough.

By AJC is DOOMED

August 20, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

We do not want another traitor loyal to a foreign power controlling the executive branch of government…lieberswine will sell america down the river to save his pet country of israel…only a narrow minded fool like woodenhead would ever support such a traitor….NOTE: lieberswine tried as a dummycrat to sneak into the whitehouse, and failed….now he is trying again as a repuke…That tells me he just wants control of the executive branch to do the bidding of his masters in Toilet Aviv…Just say no to traitors….

By The Snark

August 20, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

John McCain, who finished at the bottom of his Naval Academy class, screams “F* you I know more than anyone in this room” to his fellow senators … and you think Obama is the arrogant one? Jim, what exactly is your definition of “arrogant”?

By AmVet

August 20, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

As the summer of discontent and defeat winds down for the lunatic fringe of the GOP, there is a feeling of much hope in this country. For the first time in a long time.

They have already lost the White House and it almost certain they will suffer a second consecutive arse whipping in the Congressional elections.

And in an ideal scenario, McConnell, Brownback and Chambless would all be looking for jobs in the “private sector” by mid-November. And the neo-cons razor-thin minority status would continue to worsen.

But, as the states of Kentucky, Kansas and Georgia have very large populations of gullible dumases, all three will probably survive.

Yet, even this distatesful proposition continues to bode well for the country and hopefully for the future of the once long ago Grand Old Party.

These dwindling long time adherents of this utterly failed and repudiated neo-con ideology will become even more isolated and irrelevant. And their legacy of deadly failure may just spur on a new generation of reality based Republicans.

Bush and his gang have decimated the legitimacy of the Republican Party. That is almost inarguable.

And those fools who continue to call themselves “conservatives” who continue to try and breathe life into this corpse will only further ensure it is a VERY long time before it makes a comeback.

Keep up the good work, neo-liths…

By Jim is an ostrich

August 20, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

This column is bad, as usual. No substance at all, just name calling. Jim was apparently taught as a child that “if you can’t say anything nice about a person, write a column attacking that person”. If there is a politician who sets the standard for arrogance in this country, it is our current Beloved Leader, followed closely by the Puppetmaster Veep, Darth Cheney. Cheney may actually be the gold standard here. Judges? Regardless, we are still waiting for the first JW column that notes our Beloved Leader’s arrogance and the problems it has caused this country. I am sure we will wait in vain for such tome. Jim would have to go somewhere other than the RNC or Sean or Rush for information, and he might actually have to think. Ain’t gonna happen.

By Get Real

August 20, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

Again Wooten has nothing to say, but complain about Obama being a global citizen. I recall Ronald Reagan saying back in the 80s the he was a ‘citizen of the world’ as well. Since he’s a republican I guess that is ok. Being the the Republicans have no issues whatsoever to run on, they’re forced to character attacks to say that Obama is some worldly elitist.

Reading Wooten’s biography, he’s an elitist as well then too correct:

“He is past president of the Georgia Press Association and remains a trustee of the Georgia Press Education Foundation. He was chosen in 1996 as the Outstanding Alumnus of the University of Georgia’s College of Journalism and Mass Communications. Georgia Trend magazine has named him one of the year’s 100 most influential Georgians for most of the past decade.”

Wooten’s arrogance is so apparent being that he speaks of Obama and Biden without ever meeting them. Seems as if he’s listening to Hannity on the radio while writing his editorial. Isn’t it the republican philosophy for a person to work hard, do the right thing, and success will come. So Obama, who was raised by a single parent mother worked hard, graduated from Columbia and Harvard Law School without being a legacy, is an elitist. While McCain, whose father and grandfather were Admirals in the Navy, graduated as the fifth dumbest student in his class and married to a millionaire is perceived as a regular guy in Wooten’s eyes. Don’t insult my intelligence Wooten. Your fear of Obama becoming President is definitely showing.

By AJC is DOOMED

August 20, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Too bad woodenhead didn’t take the ajc buyout, any replacement could only be an improvement on the hack…

By John Galt

August 20, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

After reading the column - which was pretty blah - one has to deal with the commenters’ idiocies. One wonders why dimocrats and liberals even bother to read an article - their comments are all the same: knee-jerk talking-points. The poor government ‘educated’ jerks. They are just nasty, vicious, ill-conceived, poorly executed and grammatically error-filled screeds. Just like their ‘brains’. Pity them, folks. Laugh a bit, but then return to pity.

By Captain Freedom

August 20, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

THE Captain agrees with Jim (of course) that St John of the Cross in the Dust should not select that rhymes with pike Lieberman. For while Holy Joe has proven himself more than willing to abase himself at every turn to swallow the choad of Our Leader and his anointed St John, it would still mean that a Red Sea Pedestrian sits only a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. And given that St John’s heartbeat may not last another 4 months, , let alone 4 years, that would mean a descendant of, for all we know, the very man that drove the nails into the palms of the Greatest Philosopher Our Leader Has Ever Known. Is it irresponsible to speculate? It would be irresponsible — and un-Christian — not to.

Further, state dinners at the White House would become a comedy of Catskills slapstick, as the bizarre rituals of kosher diet and gentile baby’s blood is unpalatable to anyone outside their “tribe”. And just imagine the insult a President Jew Lieberman would hand the foreign country of Hawaii when he refused to eat from one of those delectamable pigs on a spit during his foreign travels to exotic un-American places like Maui and Juneau.

No, the idea of Lieberman as Veep gives both Wooten and THE Captain a case of the heebie-jeebies. (geddit?)

By Gary

August 20, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Jim, this is a foul, foul article. You reveal your stripes once more. Lieberman for Gawd sakes! I enjoy little lizards here in Fla blending in w the landscape, but not so w the self-promoting, ethnic-promoting traitor that Lieberman is. He’s become McShames lil dwarf. Meanwhile, the Repug race dips to its always anticipated filth level. Why is it that you little people must always accept/embrace the entire Repug dogma - every ounce of it - totally unconditionally?? Never even a tiny tad of independent, original thinking or questioning? And you pass these remarkable bitter weaknesses and dysfunctions from generastion to generation. And forever fail to take note - or accept guilt - of/for the semi-dead state of this Nation today. Some things just never change, do they? And your mindset (s) never, ever…grow or evolve. Pity.

By John Galt

August 20, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

After reading the column - which was pretty blah - one has to deal with the commenters’ idiocies. One wonders why dimocrats and liberals even bother to read an article - their comments are all the same: knee-jerk talking-points. The poor government ‘educated’ jerks. They are just nasty, vicious, ill-conceived, poorly executed and grammatically error-filled screeds. Just like their ‘brains’. Pity them, folks. Laugh a bit, but then return to pity.

By Greg (the Original)

August 20, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

I support McCain and hope he choses Romney (who I supported in the GA primaries). That seals Michigan and helps in O-hio & Florida. McCain will need all three to win the election.

McCain ‘08 - Leader

By Just Nasty and Mean

August 20, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

To Oddball @ 11:06

I don’ t know if you live in a cave or just have reverse cranial anal insertion syndrome. But Joe Biden is one of the most partisan left-wing political hacks ever to come out of Washington. He is a sharp-tongued, egotistical know-it-all that is stepping in poop all the time with his off-the-cuff linguistic diatribes that go on and on—- FOREVER!

He even “stepped in it* during the campaign by describing Obama “You got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” The justice brothers Jesse and Al Sharpton, along with the other race-baiting black coalition didn’t much care for that.

You, and everybody else on the planet, is going to have to prove Biden has done ANYTHING to fix Washington, including any sign he has been willing to cross the aisle against his party bosses sponsor and write decent legislation for American—instead of the far left wing whacko extremists bosses driven by San Francisco Pelosi or the ancient hack-geezer Reid?

HUH? Hello?? Don’t have anything, do you???

Now—combine his stand on these issues with the obvious fact he is a long-winded blabbermouth with a tendency to blather too far, is enamored with his own mouth, egotistical vain and elitist with his pink ties and hair plugs.

Come on, now. Just admit it! Biden is a left-wing whack job.

Come to think of it, that would fit in well with Obama.

By BK

August 20, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Jim,

We’ve just had 8 years of arrogence!!!

Ask youself this question, Are you better off now than you were 8 years ago???

By BK

August 20, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Jim,

We’ve just had 8 years of arrogence!!!

Ask yourself this question, Are you better off now than you were 8 years ago???

By JLK

August 20, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

“Vapid, empty, meaningless, meandering rhetoric.”

You do deliver it daily, Mr. Wooten. Indeed.

By Common Sense

August 20, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

It’s amazing that any so-called christian is using one issue to decide on who they should vote for!

One laws do not stop on impede. We must always seek to educate and trained people to make better decisions.

When you are studing and practicing you make all laws come to fruition.

Let’s take this country in a new direction for a change!

I think Bill Richardson would be an excellent VP pick.

If anyone out their is asking for Romney who used 42 million dollars of his own money and lost to a guy who was also running out of money we are big trouble.

Flip-flop Romney for abortion now that I want to be a president against abortion.

C/mon people it time to quit being suckers!

By BS Aplenty

August 20, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this

Common Sense

How does Bill Richardson help? Which states does he add to the tally?

Help me understand what may be a plausible choice.

By Gary

August 20, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

That would be John Galt of the Birch Society. Nothing like dwelling back in the late 50s and 60s. Typical Repug actions and thinking. Yethir! John Galt. Geesussa!! Stand proud!

By The Oddball

August 20, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

To “Just Nasty and Mean”:

I suggest you show those comments of yours to someone whose judgment you respect, without disclosing that they are yours, and ask “what do you think of this person?” I intend no insult. Try it and see.

By Just Silly and Uninformed

August 20, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Just Nasty and Mean, you obviously know nothing about Washington or national politics. Biden is viewed by no one as being left-wing. Just because you think he may run against your candidate doesn’t make him a lefty. He is known, for those who actually know anything, to be a moderate on most issues.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 20, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

Dear Gary @ 11:59, I note that conservatives usually conceal ignorance by maintaining silence. Regrettably you do not.

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 20, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Dear BK @ 11:46, my income is up 50%. The terrorists are on the run. The internet runs faster. Yes, unquestionably!

By Ragnar Danneskjöld

August 20, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

Dear Silly @ 12:03, I agree that Biden is moderate in the same sense that Cheney is moderate.

By @@

August 20, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this

This just in!!!!

Obama’s running mate is gonna be a fat guy.

The visual plays well.

A lean candidate representing a fattened government.

With his shirt off OBlahMa’s political “chest” (manboobs) will reveal the abundance of government milking America’s breast-fed babies.

I think that sucks for America.

By tcoach

August 20, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

It seems to me that all I ever hear the dems, liberals and those crowning Obama as the savior is that those who disagree only throw stones and never have any points so here are some of the points, with my reasoning for what ever that is worth. *In January of 2004 Obama said “it was time to end the embargo with Cuba” because It had “utterly failed in the effort to overthrow Castro”. Then in 2007 he says he “would not take off” the embargo because it is “an important inducement of change” All this basically has your guy caught saying one thing and doing another? Could it be because in the 2007 he was speaking to a group in Miami? See the people there have something to loose if the embargo goes away, like $ in trade. Without the embargo goods and services could be traded out of Cuba and take money away from those in Miami.

*Decriminalization of marijuana While running for the U.S. Senate in January 2004, Obama told Illinois college students that he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use. In the Oct. 30, 2007, presidential debate, he joined other Democratic candidates in opposing the decriminalization of marijuana. Again caught in a situation where he was either scarred or had such a change of heart that he completely changed what he had earlier said. This is the guy you want to run our country…. If you enjoy being told what you want to hear not someone’s actual beliefs then go ahead and vote. *Obama wants to give 20 billion in tax stimulus packages and another 10 billion in a Foreclosure Prevention Fund. Obama also wants to CUT taxes by 1,000 per for working families. So explain how we are going to give out over 30BILLION dollars and still cut taxes, once again it is easy to say one thing and not know how to make it happen.

These are only three examples I need not even go into my views on his wife’s senior thesis, guess it sucks if you’re not African American. Also I left alone the fact that the guy has yet to show with actual facts what he means by change. Change is not always for the better.
I understand that the past groups of leaders in our country were not doing a satisfactory job at ALL. However I remember many of these same people so excited that the parties were going to change in the Senate and it would fix our problems, however reality tells a different story as things are considerably worse than before they were elect

By tcoach

August 20, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

When is everyone going to quit waiting on the President or whoever to make thier life better? Do it yourself go to school, learn a trade do something. If you got forclosed on sorry really I am but make better investment. Yes a home is an investment. Read your mortgage papers and know how much you will have to pay. It is your fault you got forclosed on and nobody elses. If you feel you were prayed upon then don’t make yourself an easy target, educate yourself. Never mind what am I saying that would mean that you may have to take responsibility for your life. It is not the governments job to make you happy or even make you rich. You are guareenteed LIFE, Liberty, and the PURSUIT of Happiness. Thats it, quit asking for a government fix or a handout.

By ghost rider

August 20, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

By tcoach

tcoach .. you have the audacity to say that democrats only throw stones…please give me a break!

I guess you haven’t been paying any attention to the crap that McCain, his lobbyist buddies, as well as Limbaugh, Hanninty and O’reilly have been spewing non-stop!

No ideas! Just vindictive lies.

Now tcoach tell me one new idea that McCain has put-forth?

“I was against tax cuts before I was for them.

“I was against offshore drilling before I was for them.”

“I loved Donald Rumsfeld before I was against him”

Bob Dylan wrote a song years ago called “Blowing In the Wind”

I believe he had McCain in mind!

By findog

August 20, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Captain, I thought it was the Romans that drove the nails into the philosopher. The Jews just selected the sacrifice to seal Pilate’s fate…

Mean and Nasty, How is Biden so off the mark on Obama from those who described General Powell as well spoken?

BK, I think that number is closer to 15.416 years for arrogance.

JLK triplicate is usually sufficient.

Rangar, I didn’t know the Internet ran. Speed increases are technological in nature and principally limited by the user interface device, the OC-192 as the current gold standard was available in Clinton’s day. Too bad they let WorldCom remain as MCI after their funny pencil book keeping, the honest carriers had to compete against a giant that got out of paying for its equipment. Had the Bush justice department thought about what they did to nearly kill telecom we would not have lost ten thousand tech jobs in Atlanta alone.

et al: As for any Georgian picking on Senator Lieberman, it would seem difficult after our dueling spitball former Governor Zell’s performance in the last cycle.

By Jim is an ostrich

August 20, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

tcoach, are you saying that McCain has never once changed his mind on issue in all the years he has been in the Senate? Never once???? You can assign ulterior motives to everything that is done by a candidate, but sometimes thoughtfulness provokes a change of heart or opinion. I know that is hard to believe given the last seven years, but it does happen. And pandering, by the way, is a bi-partisan attribute. See McCain’s current position on the Bush tax cuts, and his position when he was voting on them in the Senate.

By Whatever

August 20, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

tcoach, well shouldn’t the same be said about the bank and mortgage companies the Republicans keep bailing out? You say, ‘if you got forEclosed no sorry really I am but make better investments.’

If that really is the case for Republicans then it should be the same for everyone. Tell Bear Stearns, sorry make better investments, you’re an INVESTMENT company. Same to Fannie, Freddie, and the oil companies that shouldn’t be receiving any money from the government with all the profits they’ve made the last 2 years.

By Un-Represented

August 20, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this

tcoach,

It IS the job of government officials to perform the functions detailed in the descriptions of the jobs FOR WHICH THEY ARE BEING PAID. If you’d like to argue for the elimination of specific government jobs, that’s fine. But as long as those positions exist — President and Vice President included — then these people should perform and produce to the best interests of those of us they are PAID to serve. Not themselves, their buddies, or the national committees of their respective parties. Now that hurricane season is upon us, let us remember that FEMA cannot control the weather, but as long as these folks are being paid to “manage emergencies” that cross jurisdictions, then we have a right to expect they’ll do as much. Thanks.

By tcoach

August 20, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Mr. Ghost Rider, never said Dems. throw stones I said they consistantly say that all they ever hear from anyone who does not agree with them is throwing stones. It is the very 1st sentance I wrote. Maybe you did not read my post though. I never said I was there to back McCain or any other. I was meerly making a point. To which you confirmed it by throwing out that line in your 1st sentance, see I read your post, about the democrats don’t throw stone only the republicans do that. Eventhough I am not a republican. Anyway though why did you not give one solid answer or reasons for the flip-flopping and lying that Sen. Barak Obama has done or give a response to any of the point I made. Instead you attatcked McCain and his followers.

By ghost rider

August 20, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

And tcoach,

Before you get on your highhorse and start lecturing people on getting an education you might want to enroll in an english and spelling class!

forclosed is actually foreclosed…

prayed should be preyed…

guareenteed should be guaranteed..

I won’t even bother with the sentence, and paragraph structure…

For the lesson that will be $100.00, please!

By tcoach

August 20, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Why are you all concerned with grammer every time I get on here you whine and complain about grammer. Is that the standard answer when you do not have one for the points made by others. Sorry this is not that serious that I feel teh need to proof read my post. I hit spell-check and forget about it. I have way more important things than this blog to worry about the grammer of the content I put forth. I think my points were easy to understand so why worry about my spelling. I passed freshman english like six or seven years ago. But seriously respond to my points not my grammer.

By Tuffy, The Airborne Soldier

August 20, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Ahhh, the return of the Woo Woo Ten. (Almost like WuTang). The Non Op Ed.

Jim, once again, you and your pathetic supporters are way off on McLame and his cast of Idiots again. First and foremost, Mccain did not “win” anything except his supporters at Saddleback. McLame basically gave his stump speech. Obvioulsy the GOP’s presumptive nominee does not grasp the term “forum.” Wherein one would state his position and then backfill that position with substance. He provided a position, but did not offer any support for his position. Has the GOP electorate become so thirsty for any response from this candidate that they will take anything that he says and try to fit it into a forward thinking response? Have you gotten so used to your leadership (Dubya specifically) providing questionable leadership and diplomacy, while robbing the country blind of its world position, increasing the debts, taxes, while simultaneously violating the trust and laws of this country. You sit there and watch as the torch is passed from the hands of the poorest rated President of our time, hell, in history to the hands of a man who has admitted to having no knowledge of the economy, his idea of a foreign policy is to bomb the crap out of some country (military response), lie (while in church) that he consults with Rep. John Lewis (who just yesterday stated that the man has never spoken to him outside of normal salutations in the congress), has lobbysist thoughout his campaign, clearly has no message (other than the plagerized story of an unknown Vietnamese “Gun Guard” who drew a cross in the sand) that conviently no one has sustantiated other than Alexander Solzenetzhyn (Ph) who penned the novel regarding this story. Plagerism??

But this is what America offers as our potential next leader? Spare me…

By tcoach

August 20, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this

Your worried about my spelling and grammer? Seriously? Was my reasoning too much for you so that was the only place you could attack my comments. To your comment made a “B” in Eng. 1101 and an “A” in 1102, not as much writing more reading and thinking, so I am capable just do not proof read my post sorry. Why do you want $100? Did you get foreclosed, put an e in this time for you, on too?

By BS Aplenty

August 20, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

tcoach

When you make a point with a liberal, they tend to go into “hissy-fit” mode which means they’ll call you fat or a poor speller or maybe you’ll git lucky and they’ll call you one of their special names like “rethuglican” but you just have to deal with it because they’re liberals and they don’t have a real message except beg and spend.

No credible poster on this blog worries much about spelling.

How was that for a run-on sentence, ghost rider.

By findog

August 20, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

tcoach, $30B-about two months after Iraq is finished. You can use the remaining $180B/year to repair the military and as a down payment for the VA.

Someone please point out a politician that didn’t pander AND got elected.

Un-Represented, It’s hurricane season, will President Bush be handing out water like he did in Florida during the 2004 season, or did his job description get changed since his reelection?

By Hillbilly Deluxe

August 20, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

If memory serves didn’t Joe Biden once get caught plagarizing? As I recall during one of his runs for President he lifted a basic story from a British politician and used it in speech as his own story.

By ghost rider

August 20, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

tcoach..

Thanks for putting me on the straight and narrow. Now I somewhat understand your inferences.

By the way tcoach…

consistantly is spelled consistently.

sentance is spelled sentence.

meerly …

Oh, well I give up!

By kevin

August 20, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

TCOACH FOR VICE PRESDIENT!!!! He’s the only one with any sense on this here internet blog. woo hoo!

By Gary

August 20, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Ragman (12:03): Speak for yourself, Oh Right-Wing Wonder. Obviously, you know not that you know not that you know not that you know not!

And yes, there always arrives some little dweeb on these blogs who picks out little fast-typing errors in spelling and adopts the role of…BLOG MOTHER.

By tcoach

August 20, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this

Sorry maybe Ghost rider, great name, one day I can be an award winning journalist like yourself without any gramatical errors.
On an intelectual note findog I am happy to respond to your comment however I do not fully understand the side or point you are making. This is most likely my fault but if you could ellaborate I would be thankful.

By J.C. Harris

August 20, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

(A Republican’s dream)

Joe Biden says, “Please Mr. Obama! Please don’t pick me to be no vice-president!

And then … Obama picks him.

And then … together they lose.

By Captain Freedom

August 20, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

Findog,

Centuries of persecution of the Juden is predicated upon the teaching that it was they who put Our Buddy Jesus on the cross. Why mess up a good thing now?

While We of True Belief appreciate their assistance in launching the One True Religion (NOT counting the Papists and Mormontology cults), We must also insist that, in the spirit of vengeful spite that is central to Christianity, the demonization of the Shylock tribe continue unabated. And while some of them are useful to us (see esp. William Kristol and Jonah Goldberg), most of them are tied to George Soros and his cabal of One Worlder islmufacistoabortecoterrorists. Just ask Wooten, he’ll back THE Captain on this.

Hating the Other. It is the Right Thing to do.

By tcoach

August 20, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

To cover some earlier post. No I am not in favor of the Government bailing out Mortgage companies. However I am slightly more sympathetic to them, because it is people’s lack of payment on a signed agreement that has cause some, not nearly all, of their finacial situations. Also why do people keep saying things to me about well the republicans do this and that. I never said they do not, all I did was point out some of the flaws of Barak Obama. I am still truely undecided who I am going to vote for. Also the only things I said about government involvment was in the dealing with forclosure. That is it nothing about FEMA, the job they did intruded on those people’s pursuit of happiness. Those with stupid home investments, I can say stupid because if you try to buy a 250,000 house and you only make 30,000 you are stupid, made an attack upon their own persuit. All I want is for people to begin to take some type of responsibility for their actions and accept their consequences. I was on a full athletic scholorship in college and still took out student loans. That was abad investment and the financial aide office knew I did not need the loans shoul the govrnment give me a stimulous to pay for my student loans. NO. I have friends with stupid credit card debts, why don’t we get the government to pay for those. NO. Be a man or be a woman and act like an adult this means accepting responsibility for our own actions, good and bad.

By findog

August 20, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this

tcoach, I believe your query was referenced in Obama flip-flop #3 after Cuba and marijuana was where will Obama get the $30B is spending he proposes. Concluding the war opens the opportunity.

Clinton had the, “peace dividend,” after the end of the Cold War. He got to greatly reduce the size of the military, started by the first President Bush pre-Iraq circa 1990. Clinton also was a lucky recipient of the punch card dividend, punch card computers had limitations to I think it was 88 characters so the dropped the leading 19 in dates, which Bill Gates became a billionaire bamboozling the world into fearing Armageddon into the tech bubble.

As far as spelling and grammar I’m with you. A blog should read like a conversation and we should all learn to understand the phonetics of your position if not the precision of your typing…

By saywhat?

August 20, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this

Tcoach, ghostrider is only trying to help you. You are apparently, as Obama characterized republicans mocking common sense advice on tire inflation, proud of your stupidity.

By cws

August 20, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Jim’ When are you and your republican idiots going to get it. Any choice will not help our country. Please all you ostrich republicans (heads stuck in sand …or somewhere else) the only thing we will get with Mccain is 4 more years of bush and if that we might as well give the country to China and Japan.

By tcoach

August 20, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

say what no you are mistaken, Ghost rider has yet to offer any actual response to my comments only a revision of my gramatic skills. Also please read I just said I am not a republican like 20 minutes ago. However because of people like you I will begin to proof read my comments. However, what will you say back if my grammer is correct. I was simply unaware that this was going to be a review of my grammatical skills. On the other side of that I would go out on a limb and say that my intellegence is of such a higher quality than that