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DEL.ICIO.USOK, now is Georgia in play?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The vote shift in the Democratic runoff can have only one explanation: The Democratic Party and the Barack Obama campaign decided their chances in Georgia would be far better in November with former State Rep. Jim Martin of Atlanta on the ticket than with DeKalb County CEO Vernon Jones.
Nothing obvious in either campaign, in Martin’s or Jones’, can account for the dramatic shift in three weeks. Some examples:
In Bibb County (Macon), Jones led Martin by 2,000 votes in July and less than 100 Tuesday.
In Dougherty County (Albany), Jones led by 5,000 votes in July and by 1,100 Tuesday.
In Metro Atlanta, it was a blow-out reversal: In Fulton, Jones led by 500 in July and lost by more than 15,000 Tuesday. In DeKalb, he led by almost 7,000 in July and lost by 15,000 Tuesday. In Clayton, Jones led by 6,000 in July and lost by about 3,500 Tuesday. In Cobb, Jones trailed Martin by about 500 votes in July and lost by more than 7,500 Tuesday.
In Richmond County (Augusta), Jones led by 7,500 in July and by 1,600 Tuesday.
In Muscogee County (Columbus) Jones led by 3,500 in July and did unusually well Tuesday, winning by 2,000.
In Chatham County (Savannah), Jones won by 6,000 last month and by less than 1,000 Tuesday.
Across North Georgia it was a blow-out for Martin. Union County went 827-37 for Martin. White County was 235-26, Martin. Towns County, Zell Miller’s home county, went for Martin, 219-9. In Union, Jones got 385 votes in the primary and in both White and Towns, he pulled less than he did in July.
Others may have a different explanation, but absent a great deal of money or some well-publicized news event, fortunes don’t turn as dramatically in major races as they did these three weeks. I don’t think anything either campaign did produced this kind of shift in voter preferences. The explanation here is that the Obama campaign determined that Jones would be a drag on their chances of putting Georgia in play — and got that word out.
So does Martin’s win help Obama? It substitutes a stable, reliable candidate who will show well for one who can be unpredictable and has the potential to do something embarrassing. It helps him by not hurting him. And while Martin can be low-key to the point of lifelessness, he is a Vietnam veteran and that could be a plus for Obama’s Georgia campaign. But still, Georgia is not in play.
Can Martin beat Chambliss? Highly unlikely. But, as unlikely as it is, the Democrats’ chances of picking up the seat are better with Martin than with Jones.
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By FRANKLEEDARLING
August 6, 2008 7:40 AM | Link to this
Lets turn Georgia blue ,I am doing my part
everybody all together now THROW OUT THE WORTHLESS REPUGS
By TW
August 6, 2008 7:49 AM | Link to this
GOP ‘08 PROUD TO BE IGNORANT
Washington - Senator McCain spent the greater part of Tuesday evening picking his tire gauge out of his rear.*
By hillbilly ragger
August 6, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this
Jim, Martin won for one reason. He didn’t claim, as Jones did, to have voted for George Bush twice.
Oh, and he didn’t actually contribute to the friggin’ GOPee, either.
Stuff like that takes time to get out. It got out. Sanity prevailed.
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 6, 2008 7:51 AM | Link to this
When I voted yesterday at 5:20 pm, I was the 165th to vote at my polling place. My precinct has over 3000 voters.
Kinda’ sad don’t ya’ think?
By BR26
August 6, 2008 7:56 AM | Link to this
So, for the “change” candidate it’s politics as usual huh? Duh, imagine that one.
By BFKaJ
August 6, 2008 7:57 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I had not read the election results but Jim raises good questions here. Vernon Jones should have done well among African-Americans, much better than suggested in Jim’s essay. Nevertheless it is difficult for me to imagine the democrat machinery is so effective that the voters marched lock-step to a beat established by the national campaign. I have no rational explanation unless it was the Martin telephone banks calling predominantly black areas to tell them that the black primary was Wednesday.
One possibility is that the hard-leftists – Martin’s base – was simply more motivated that Jones’s base – conservative democrats and black democrats. Another is that Jones has some notoriety for matters ancillary to his official duties, and perhaps ethics was a motivator. Perhaps some party activists think Martin’s military service will allow them to fool Georgians into thinking the guy has some solid conservative traits, a necessity for election anywhere in the South outside the ghetto.
Can Martin beat Chambliss? Only if he can persuade Georgians that democrats spend less than republicans, something akin to proving water is purple and trees emit dangerous levels of cyanide gas. Martin is as leftist as Obama, and regrettably Chambliss is as moderate as McCain. A depressing challenge for conservatives, but one for which there is a correct response.
By Taxpayer
August 6, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this
Well, Chambliss may have the money he needs to overwhelm any competition but he does not have my respect. That grilling he gave that guy at the sugar plant was just icing on the cake for me. This time around, I’ve got a candidate to vote for and it’s not Chambliss.
By GMAN
August 6, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this
The GOP - Taking pride in being ignorant!
By Charles
August 6, 2008 8:02 AM | Link to this
Vernon Jones certainly showed dignity and grace in defeat. It’s refreshing to see someone not use the ‘race card’ when your positions on the issues are not supported (unlike Barrack Obama and his supporters).
By hotlanta
August 6, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this
Military service. Just like the guy said if that is the case everybody that comes home from the Iraq office can run for office if that is all it takes. I didn’t hear you say anything about him wearing your famous FLAG PIN.
By hotlanta
August 6, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this
Military service. Just like the guy said if that is the case everybody that comes home from the Iraq office can run for office if that is all it takes. I didn’t hear you say anything about him wearing your famous FLAG PIN.
By BFKaJ
August 6, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this
Why are our leftists not posting any analysis? I would wish to see our leftist friends analyzing their election yesterday.
By Yeah right
August 6, 2008 8:10 AM | Link to this
Vernon lost in Dekalb because of the arrogance of the fake Obama flyer and his Bush votes. That to me was pretty significant. His quote: “Democrats keep electing losers”. Not this time Vern. You’re out, and take Victor Hill with you.
By FRANKLEEDARLING
August 6, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this
Really hard to outspend a republican these days. seems they really like a large government as long as they are in control
GOP=GUARD OUR PORK
By Shar
August 6, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this
Well, BFKaJ, I’m not a leftist but I would posit that Democrats got a bit more practical yesterday. Hill and Freeman given the air, with only the corrupt Clerk of the Court in Fulton still infesting the office. As to Mr. Wooten’s apparent belief that some foul-intentioned outside force crawled into Georgia like a malignant ground fog and forced an unwilling populace to elect Jim Martin rather than Vernon Jones, I would simply point out that the better, more electable candidate won. There were only two people on the ballot, and only the more motivated electors showed up to choose the nominee they thought would have the best chance of defeating the flaccid paper cut out of a Senator we are currently afflicted with. The same thing happened in the Fulton Sheriff’s race, where Freeman led after the primary but lost by a wide margin when facing only one challenger. If Mr. Wooten can accept that voters chose the candidate they preferred in that race, I don’t see why he cannot do so in the race for the Senate nomination.
By hillbilly ragger
August 6, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this
BFK @ 8.09,
1) you got all the analysis you need already from me @ 7.50, although Yeah Right @ 8.10 mirrors my views;
and
2) I ain’t your “friend.”
By Bud Wiser
August 6, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this
All this means is that the white blue-collar Democrats came out and voted for Martin versus Jones.
Those same voters will be voting McCain in the Fall election, for the same reason.
You know, minorities are called that for a reason, and that reason is that they are not a majority. A coalition of minorities such as the Democrats have wooed (or enslaved) can create a majority.
BUT, when one or more of those minorities defects to the other side for any particular reason, that majority once more becomes a minority. Add the fact that individual minority groups each have their own personal agenda that may not agree with other groups in their coalition, it may cause a fracture to further break up the group as a whole. Chaos erupts. Groups vie for supremacy in the coalition, others feel left out of the group collective, and defect. Further chaos. Everybody wants their piece of the pie.
Obama cannot connect, and frankly does not care if he connects, with the white blue-collar Democrats. His appeal is targeted at the blacks, and the media. His elitism and sense of self destiny is apparent to everyone. They will be turned off by this arrogant show pony of the Democrats and vote McCain.
Democrats’ perpetuation of their own self destruction when it comes to the White House is legendary. Their show ponies 2000 and 2004 could not even defeat George W. Bush, perhaps the most disrespected and reviled President in history. What does that say about their ability to choose a viable candidate, much less one that has a decent chance of winning?
Obama may be the ‘one he is waiting for’, but he most certainly is not the one America is waiting for.
By AmVet
August 6, 2008 8:27 AM | Link to this
Wow.
Can this dispirited flagging “conservative” mentality get any more ridiculous? (DON”T answer that! Of course they can. It’s a rhetorical question.)
I’ll not even try to disabuse Mr. Wooten and the “faithful” of the silliness he proposes regarding a giant left-wing conspiracy by Obama to doom Jones.
Martin will not be able to overcome the GOP’s cracker factor this fall, but even in this backwater state, the tide is turning.
Most Americans realize THIS non-conservative GOP is simply too inept, amazingly short sighted and deadly to trust anymore.
As evidenced by how those who blathered on favorably for years about their “conservative” leaders in the White House and elsewhere took forever to admit the obvious, and that which any lucid person could see from the beginning.
The empire coveting never-served, never-will chickenhawks, the scandal ridden, pedophile infested family values crowd, the frauds and charlatans of the Religious Reich and Immoral Minority and the spend thrift corporate wh0res were NEVER conservatives.
Chambliss a moderate???
Must be the Republicans new code word for neo-con…
By Ga Values
August 6, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this
I recently spoke with a Republican Hill staffer whom I had not seen since the Democrats took control of Congress. After joking with him about the shift from the strategic offensive to playing defense, I asked if Republican members were ready to refurbish their brand by opposing earmarks, controlling spending and even confronting the largest Death Star of all, federal entitlements - Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security.
I was treated to a discussion of the waste in our health system and government programs which support it. I was inundated with a drizzle of detail of how this or that program lost money due to mismanagement or venality.
My friend did not mention earmarks, spending or entitlements. Given his job, I have to believe he was avoiding a sensitive subject, having nothing to offer by way of encouragement.
David M. Walker, until recently Comptroller General of the United States and head of the Government Accountability Office (GAO), is a modern-day Cassandra who sees clearly the fiscal crisis in our not-so-distant future. Mr. Walker argues that the country is facing “an explosion of debt” due to the baby boomers’ retirement, spiraling health care costs, plummeting savings rates and increased reliance on foreign lenders, which present “unprecedented fiscal risks.” He describes GAO’s long-range simulations or projections as “chilling.” In 1966, mandatory programs, mostly entitlements, amounted to 26 percent of total federal spending. In 2006, it was 53 percent. Add in net interest on the debt, and the numbers are 33 and 62 percent, respectively.
Discretionary spending, what most citizens would term “government” - defense, national parks, the weather service - has fallen from 67 to 38 percent of federal spending.
Most frightening, what GAO calls “implicit exposures” for future Social Security and Medicare benefits jumped by 158 percent since 2000, mushrooming from $13.0 trillion to $40.8 trillion. This fiscal burden amounts to $455,000 per household. This has happened while Republicans controlled the White House and Congress (until 2006).
A trillion here, a trillion there … balancing the budget in 2040 could require cutting total federal spending by 60 percent or raising federal taxes to twice today’s level.
Faster economic growth can help, but it cannot solve the problem alone: “Closing the current long-term fiscal gap based on reasonable assumptions would require real, average annual economic growth in the double digit range every year for the next 75 years,” says the GAO. “During the 1990s, the economy grew at an average of 3.2 percent per year.”
Fraud, waste and abuse? That would be an easy problem to solve. This crisis is a fundamental, structural and systemic failure of federal fiscal policy resulting from a dysfunctional political culture for which Republicans must take responsibility. The administration’s drug benefit was the largest expansion of a federal entitlement in recent history, and its non-defense discretionary spending has surpassed levels attained by Lyndon Johnson and the Great Society.
Fiscal responsibility and entitlement reform should be viewed as complementary, rather than antithetical, to supply-side tax cuts and pro-growth policies. Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, a dedicated supply-sider, is one Republican congressman who understands this. His proposed legislation, “A Roadmap For America’s Future,” combines entitlement reform with tax relief designed to lift “the massive projected debt burden from the shoulder of future generations.” Absent fiscal restraint and structural reform of entitlements, Americans are alarmed at ballooning deficits which transfer the burden to the next generation. They may come to embrace higher taxes with a view towards reducing the deficit which, in and of itself, is important only as a percentage of gross domestic product. Ignoring the entitlement crisis puts at peril the GOP’s low-tax, growth strategy for the nation’s economy.
Allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire will certainly not address the entitlement crisis, the federal deficit or economic growth. Any additional tax revenues will probably be consumed by new health insurance programs, supported by Sen. Barack Obama if he becomes president. And that is just one new program proposed by Democrats and supported by many Republicans of late.
Rather than succumbing to the siren song of big government, staunchly defending earmarks or their votes for drug benefits, the farm bill and now the housing legislation, Republican members of Congress need to reclaim their heritage of fiscal responsibility and recall their true reason for being.
G. Tracy Mehan III, who served at the EPA in both Bush administrations, is an adjunct professor at George Mason University School of Law.
By FRANKLEEDARLING
August 6, 2008 8:29 AM | Link to this
Wow,fun watching the repugs spin and twist today. get used to it there is more coming
By Copyleft
August 6, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this
Wooten, and BFK, are dumbfounded that black voters didn’t automatically vote for Jones. In their fevered imaginations, black voters ALWAYS have to support black candidates, because it’s all their simple nigra minds can process.
The problem, of course, is that the simple minds are on the other side of that analysis.
Jones was corrupt, and the voters knew it. Unlike conserva-drones, Democratic voters have little patience with blatant corruption, and we threw him out.
By Ga Values
August 6, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this
I have changed my vote from Barr to McCain.. this speach can’t be good news for Saxby SPECIAL INTEREST Chambliss..
McCain opposes farm policies popular in Midwest
MIKE GLOVER Associated Press Writer DES MOINES, Iowa — Republican presidential candidate John McCain opposes the $300 billion farm bill and subsidies for ethanol, positions that both supporters and opponents say might cost him votes he needs in the upper Midwest this November.
His Democratic rival, Barack Obama, is making a more traditional regional pitch: He favors the farm bill approved by Congress this year and subsidies for the Midwest-based ethanol industry. McCain instead has promised to open new markets abroad for farmers to export their commodities.
In his position papers, McCain opposes farm subsidies only for those with incomes of more than $250,000 and a net worth above $2 million. But he’s gone further on the stump.
“I don’t support agricultural subsidies no matter where they are,” McCain said at a recent appearance in Wisconsin. “The farm bill, $300 billion, is something America simply can’t afford.”
McCain later described the measure, which is very popular throughout the Midwest, as “a $300 billion, bloated, pork-barrel-laden bill” because of subsidies for industries like ethanol.
It’s not a stand that pleases Republican Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa.
“I would not advise him to take that position,” Grassley said. “For sure, he can’t lose Missouri and that’s in the upper Midwest. Could he lose Iowa, Minnesota and Wisconsin and still be elected president? Yes, but I wouldn’t advise him to have that strategy.”
Grassley, a conservative Republican, and his Senate colleague from Iowa, liberal Democrat Tom Harkin, have achieved enduring success in this state largely by mastering the politics of farm issues. Harkin chairs the Senate Agriculture Committee, which wrote the new farm legislation.
“I don’t see any scenario in which McCain can get to the White House without carrying some upper Midwestern states,” said Harkin, an Obama backer. “I’ve never really understood in all my years why Sen. McCain has gone out of his way to speak against and vote against policies that are important to the upper Midwest.”
There’s a history of close elections in the region. President Bush carried Indiana, Iowa, Missouri, North Dakota and South Dakota in 2004, earning 35 electoral votes. But his Democratic opponent, John Kerry, prevailed in Minnesota, Wisconsin and Illinois, giving him 41 electoral votes.
Veteran GOP strategist Gentry Collins said McCain can defend his record on farm issues, including opposing “corporate welfare” for big operations, but he said there’s more at work.
“The upper Midwest is crucial in this election, and Midwestern voters value authenticity. They value experience,” Collins said. “I don’t think agricultural issues are the only issues Midwestern voters care about. There are some bigger-picture issues, broader issues where he’s strong.”
But on another important issue to Midwesterners, McCain opposed a tax break for developing wind power. Obama supported the tax break.
“We’re employing close to 2,000 people right now in Iowa in the wind energy industry,” Harkin said.
McCain has been most outspoken on ethanol subsidies, and that has Republicans worried in Iowa, the nation’s biggest producer of the fuel. Other top ethanol producers include Illinois, Minnesota, Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin and Missouri.
“It does challenge him in states like Iowa, the No. 1 ethanol state,” said Bill Northey, Iowa’s Republican agriculture secretary. “It does make it tougher to make the case.”
Drake University political science professor Dennis Goldford said McCain’s problem on farm issues reflects a deeper issue he faces as he’s courted conservative GOP activists, many of whom are deeply suspicious of him.
“He’s essentially reverting to standard Republican supply-side economics,” said Goldford. “That’s where he’s got a problem. He’s got to find his own voice and so far he hasn’t had a voice.”
Iowa Gov. Chet Culver, a Democrat who has campaigned for Obama, said he’s puzzled by McCain’s position. He points to other Republicans who have a different view.
“President Bush and I just had a good conversation about how critically important ethanol is, and how Iowa is positioned so well to lead the nation,” said Culver. “I have no idea why John McCain doesn’t support it. It hurts him in Indiana, and Missouri and Ohio, and it’s not the message right now that any of us want to hear.”
Obama has a modest lead in national polls, but electoral votes will decide the election. Obama is poised to do well on both coasts, while McCain is favored in the South and some parts of the West. That leaves the upper Midwest as a swing battleground.
“The Midwest is crucial in this campaign,” said Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller, a Democrat and an early backer of Obama. “Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin and perhaps Indiana are very important states. McCain is behind, and he’s in danger of falling further behind.”
By Aquagirl
August 6, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
The cut-n-pasters are up early today.
Jim, you made a wrong prediction, there’s no need to make up some wild tale of Obama Ninjas infiltrating the election.
By Ga Values
August 6, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this
BFKaJ —there is no way Saxby is a Moderate except if which ever interest group’s water he is carring is moderate. I am a Conservative Republican & will be voting for against Saxby.
Chambliss certainly knows how to take care of himself,, He has collected $1,368,000.00 from the Ag industry, that with Pelosi / Reid,& he over rode President Bush’s Veto of the waste filled Farm Bill. He has raised $1,248,000.00 from the bankers that he worked with Pelosi/Reid to bail out at the expense of the TAXPAYER. Saxby takes care of Saxby but not the Georgia taxpayer. SOURCE: http://opensecrets.org/politicians/industries.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00002685
By Maniac is accurate
August 6, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this
You mean to tell me you are speculating that Obama’s people got the word out. That’s a sad indictment in the state of journalism in Georgia if Obama’s campaign mounts an effort to sink Vernon Jones and the AJC doesn’t know it. That would be nearly impossible to keep secret. I weep for the Fourth Estate.
By Grading Wooten
August 6, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this
Again, none of Wooten’s thug-trolls understood the piece.
Using parallel constructs, irony and masterfully tiptoeing around the racism minefield, Wooten wrote about Obama/McCain, not Jones/Martin.
Although he did indeed write about Jones/Martin too. The second to last paragraph is a crescendo of innuendo.
This piece is a minor masterpiece, and the fruition of a sea-change Wooten has undergone ever since I came on board two years ago.
Bravo Jim. Too bad you’re wasted on everyone but me, but you know, only trolls blog, that’s a fact, man. You know it’s so. Blogs are infected by chatroom rejects, myspace renegades, and uboob roustabouts. (except me, of course, but I dont really blog so much as I inflict)
word.
By ron
August 6, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this
Good morning,I think I’ll cease predicting elections.A good analysis is always fun to read though.Some of you know as much about analyzing as I do about predicting.
Cynthia apparently thinks politics is racist.She should know.
McCain has ired Paris Hilton.And Obama.With the same ad.Good job.The truth sometimes hurts.
Obama wants to drill and tap the reserve.I think he’ll flip to being a moderate Republican by November.Can anyone say Kerry?
By hillbilly ragger
August 6, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
But Aquagirl, if Jim doesn’t “make up some wild tale of Obama Ninjas infiltrating” the local run-off, how else can he justify polluting the website with 200 new anti-Obama rants from the same half-dozen boneheads who post them here?
I’m outa here. Gotta put food on my family.
By Bud Wiser
August 6, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
“By Copyleft
August 6, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this
Wooten, and BFK, are dumbfounded that black voters didn’t automatically vote for Jones. In their fevered imaginations, black voters ALWAYS have to support black candidates, because it’s all their simple nigra minds can process.”
I swear to God I’ll never understand how morons like this guy continue to show to the world (via anonymity) how completely stupid they are. Of course the blacks voted for Jones. The whites (re: more voters) voted for Martin. The fact that Jones was a s corrupt as they get didn’t help him, either.
But, it boils down to this: Of course blacks vote only color, when available, in their contests. I have to go no further than cite Pennsylvania primary exit polls that gave Obama a 90% black vote, and that was versus Hillary! National polls against McCain now may reflect a little less…only a 95% black solidarity vote for their boy v. whitey.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; blacks are too stupid not to vote Obama, because of his color. They will follow the color line every time, because that is what their puppet slave masters at DNC headquarters tell them to do - vote Obama or it’s forty lashes from the massa Howard Dean. They are enslaved (again), this time from over fifty years of welfare and entitlements from the government, in the trillions of dollars, thanks to the Democrats and Lyndon Johnson’s “Great Society.”
I guess being a slave is in the blood, this time to a political party that has done nothing for them, and in reality will do nothing to endanger their servitude status, like provide a real education, real opportunity, real housing assistance as opposed to ghetto breeding farms, etc. All they get is a black front showpiece for the election, say ‘vote Obama’, and stillnothing will change afterwards.
So the slaves will vote the blood and not the man, a man who is elitist and socialist by his very nature, and won’t lift a finger if elected to help his ‘brothers and sisters.’ He will continue to perpetuate the martyrdom of slavery to the Dems so that cycle can peacefully continue, and the slaves can continue toiling in the fields of their Democrat slave masters.
And yes, whites will flock to the polls to vote McCain, not because he is superior, but because they see Hussein Obama for the danger that he really is. You see, it’s not about race, but the pocketbook. McCain wants to let some people have some of their own money, and Obama wants to redistribute the wealth to support his slave-perpetuating programs.
By Taxpayer
August 6, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this
What innuendo. Wooten did everything short of tying a cow bell around that comparison. Black and white, young and old, steady and changed, war and peace, Obama and Martin.
By Jeff
August 6, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
BFK:
The correct solution to the problem is the Libertarian ticket, and since the vast majority of my local elections have already been decided (the only ‘local’ things I know of up for a decision in November all involve sending someone to either DC or Atlanta), there really is only one DemoCan that will be getting my vote then, and that is simply because he is the enemy of my enemy, though he is not necessarily my friend. There is no Libertarian in that particular race, and the Democrat is as liberal - possibly more so - as Obama and plays the race card as much as or possibly more than Obama.
So the three choices I am making in November: Barr for President, Buckley for Senate, Ferrell for US House (District 2)
By GMAN
August 6, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this
Take a look at what the straight talk express is all about…
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html
The GOP - Taking pride in being ignorant!
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 6, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this
RON SUSKIND HAS TAPES
How Nixonian……
By GMAN
August 6, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
Poor Bud Wiser! You continue to prove my point by taking pride in being ignorant. People of color in America do not vote as a monolith. This is a stereotype fueled by the ignorance of those who frequently give simple-minded answers to complex issues. But what else is new?
The GOP - Taking Pride in being ignorant!
By FRANKLEEDARLING
August 6, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Bud, you really need to get out more meet some african americans.
because if you did you would be aware of the african american communities disgust with Vernon Jones
you really come off sounding racist
By G
August 6, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this
Martin is just another Dem. He’s too liberal, too low key, and his debating skills are embarrassing. Saxby should enjoy an easy win.
By St. Pete
August 6, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
Buttgeyser, take Wooten’s lead and stfu about racism, moron. Gads, is there a more obnoxious troll out there than Turdwiper? If so, I’ve never seen it.
“Duh, the white and the black is like the two party system, duhhhhh, …”
RETARD!!!!
By JW
August 6, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this
Has anything happened in the past six months that Senator Obama is not responsible for? How about something original from you GOPers? The parroting of Rush and Fox News is getting to be tiring. How about articulating something that you personally believe in? This is my second major election in Georgia and I believe that Saxby will win because he has the money to get his story out AND he looks like the type that Georgians embrace. And enough of the flag waving because you goods stood by and let Saxby do a pretty good hatchet job on Max.
By St. Pete
August 6, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this
“We know for certain that Saddam Hussein met with Al Queda in Casablanca..” Cheney talking like a retard from 2002 to 2005.
“M. C. ROVE” (camera to Rove dancing and singing like a retard).
“Oooga Booga” (camera to president voodoo-mugging like a retard)
We need change.
Obama 08: America takes over.
By Taxpayer
August 6, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
Bud Wiser! My hat’s (if I had one on, that is) off to you. Has anyone told you how spot on your commentary is with its definition of the new age GOP. That is some really great work there. I’ll bet Wooten could even hook you up with Saxby. You would make a great addition to his team with that ability to reach out so effectively to the GOP base.
Good show.
By Dasingle
August 6, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
Martin’s victory is a true call for change combined with the arrogance of a politician who took his constituicy for granted.Vernon thought African Americans in GA would vote for him simply because he’s Black. African Americans along with others in this country want change. He thought he could attract conservative voters with his “I supported Bush” stance and still expect to hold on to his base. He alienated his base with this admission and lost the race convincely. I still think the winner of this primary will still lose in Nov. but Jones had a chance to be in the hunt and threw it away.
By Aquagirl
August 6, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
hillbilly @ 8:50, you’re right, I failed to acknowledge Jim’s resourcefulness. It’s good to see old-fashioned journalism—a new angle to every story—in action here at the AJC. We see so little of it among his colleagues.
By sharon
August 6, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
Bud Wiser you need Prozac or it’s too damn early for you to be drinking bud weiser
By Bud Wiser
August 6, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
As usual, the ignorant libs take further pride in being ignorant. You cannot countermand or refute any statistic I make. You resort to name-calling and insults, the only weapon you have when you know you have been bested. You call me a racist, but are incapable with coping with your own feelings toward race as an issue, much less cope with the truth of statistics. Blacks overwhelmingly support Obama, and just because of color. FACT - FACT - FACT.BLACKS SUPPORT OBAMA 95-1 *UAS tODAY, AJC et al.
Truth? You can’t handle the truth. Heads in the sand, you sanctimonious garbage spewers ignore the truth when it is inconvenient. And since when did I say blacks voting 95-1 was racist? I just pointed out that it is racially motivated. If whites vote 95-1 in favor of a white cadidate versus black, in your view is that racist? Of course it is. Your double standard, your making your beliefs the only ones that should be believable, is what sickens you to the average American. It is why your show ponies Gore and Kerry lost to, quite frankly, an inferior opponent, and maybe an inferior man. But that is what maddens you the most, doesn’t it?
Your elitism, your smug sense of superiority and entitlement, those will be your downfall. And I will be laughing all the way!
By sharon
August 6, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
Bud Wiser you need Prozac or it’s too damn early for you to be drinking bud weiser
By Redneck Convert
August 6, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
Well, that Obama guy needs to stay out of GA business. Coming down here and deciding which canadate runs against old Saxby. Wooten done did us all a favor by pointing out how powerful Obama is.
I reckon we better pay more attention to Obama if he has the power to decide who wins in GA races. It figures Those People would get the word out about who to vote for. I seen Those People do a lot of whispering in the past three weeks or so. They was probly passing the word down from Obama.
It won’t do him no good. Just wait till us GA rednecks rise up in our Righteous Wrath on election day and put old Saxby back in office. He may be a no-good, illegal-loving, worthless senator, but leastwise he’s our White illegal-loving, worthless Republican senator.
Have a good day everybody.
By BFKaJ
August 6, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
Dear Shar @ 8:22, a cogent argument, thanks, I appreciate the insight. And you are right, you are too reasonable to be a leftist.
Dear Ragger @ 8:22, I concede that you offered me your best effort, at the limit of your capacity.
Dear Ga Values @ 8:28, thanks for publishing Prof. Mehan’s essay. I think his arguments are valuable, and wish at least 50% of the elected republicans were listening. I have given up on the democrats. But you confuse me with your two subsequent postings: at 8:34 you proved that Saxbe was a big spender and thus less conservative than even McCain, then at 8:43 you affirm that Saxbe is no moderate. Normally you reflect intelligent conservative positions, but here you seemingly irrationally define conservative as a “big spender?” Conservatives are notorious penny-pinchers, generally opposed to government spending. Perhaps a typo, that Saxbe is a moderate? Or are you arguing that Saxbe is a leftist?
Dear Copyleft @ 8:32, arguable thesis, “Democratic voters have little patience with blatant corruption, and we threw him out.” That would also explain the rejection of Hillary earlier this year. However, you cannot square that argument with the continued leadership role of Rep. Murtha, easily the most corrupt member of Congress, Sen. Stevens and Rep. Murtha notwithstanding.
By BFKaJ
August 6, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
Dear Copyleft @ 8:32, apologies for error, I meant to cite Rep. Jefferson as the final name in my note.
By Devastator
August 6, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this
WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama’s new television ad links Republican John McCain to President Bush and questions whether McCain is the political maverick he claims to be.
The Obama campaign released the spot on Wednesday. It shows McCain acknowledging that he agrees with Bush on most issues.
The ad also criticizes McCain on three economic issues of concern to middle-class voters: tax breaks for the wealthy, money for oil companies, and tax breaks for companies that send jobs overseas. The ad ends with a smiling McCain and Bush side by side.
By Bud Wiser
August 6, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
It is never too early to drink Budweiser. Haven’t you ever heard of the ‘cowboy breakfast?’
Krispy Kreme donuts and a cold Bud at 6 am, when the sugar high wears off, the beer starts to kick in, or vice versa. Better for you than that Red Bull or those other unnatural energy drinks.
By FRANKLEEDARLING
August 6, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
so what happend yesterday bud ?
By Paul
August 6, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Frankleedarling 8:13
[[GOP=GUARD OUR PORK]]
That’s clever. But as far as the candidates go, McCain has the better anti-earmark record.
Interesting thing about this election is, no matter which candidate wins, the actions they’ve said they take on several issues will be the same. Earmarks is one.
Mrs. Godzilla
Good on you for voting. To use a well-worn phrase, you walk the talk.
GA Values 8:28
I read an article yesterday where the General Accountability Office said ” Roughly $1 billion of the $10 billion in annual Medicare payments the government makes for medical equipment are later deemed improper,”
One billion dollars. Ten percent of the total. The implications are staggering.
your 8:32
So, another way to phrase Obama’s support for the farm bill is that he may oppose tax cuts for the rich, but he supports direct payments for the rich!
By Bad S Mitten
August 6, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
Enough dribble about Georgia politics. Let’s talk about the cool stuff going on out there. Did anyone else watch the Paris Hilton video. Is she cool or what. I mean she put the politicians in their places and even called them out using their generic names — Be it witches. You gotta love it. I’ll bet she’ll get more votes than McCain just from that one ad. Above all else though, she represents the true American dream — not that GOP crap about owning a foreclosed home while working at McDonalds flipping burgers and taking care of those “family values”. Hell no, we’re talking about non-taxable filthy inherited rich in your face Republican American dream. I’ll bet even old McCain is getting all hot and bothered and ready for a wet start after seeing that video.
By AmVet
August 6, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
Let’s just stop the one-way, hyper-hypocritical, cracker-like mental masturbation regarding racism in this country.
And yes, whites will flock to the polls to vote McCain, not because he is superior, but because they see…a WHITE man running against a mulatto!
What is the big deal in just being a REAL man and admitting this?
Yes, of course there is much black racism in this nation. And a huge percentage of blacks (in some cases) will vote black only. AND A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF WHITES WILL VOTE WHITE ONLY. Who thef&ck is even debating this?
But the difference between the worst of these Republicans and everyone else is that we non neo-cons are NOT afraid to admit ALL of us have been, and continue to be, guilty of blind intolerance. And still struggle daily to overcome the not-that-distant holocaust in America that has sowed these seeds we now deal with. It is part and parcel of the very fabric of this country. Personally and as a society.
Decades/centuries of murderous racial bigotry and injustice haven’t just magically ended in this country, because some/many determined white and black liberals and white and black progressives have made inroads over the past forty years in overpowering the white and black racists and do-nothing, pretend it didn’t happen and even if it did, it’s all OK now, gang.
And for those of you are constantly flummoxed by standard, written English that does NOT mean Democrat or Republican.
So the ultimate question is why is it that such a disproportionate percentage of these neo-cons generally act as if there is NO racism in their ranks? None, nada, zilch.
They are now, to a man, color-blind and “conservatively” free of the demons that have haunted and continue to haunt us ALL.
Bull hockey.
I believe the only answer can be intellectual and arrogant dishonesty by the “conservative” ostriches.
And it is rampant and across the board on a huge number of topics in this “new” “conservative” movement…
By St. Pete
August 6, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
Does the Vernon Jones collapse at the polls call into question the actual polling data itself? That could mean the already lopsided Obama landslide indicators are actually concealing the 65/35 blowout for Obama that I’ve been polling with real people in real stores. The media wont get ratings if people think it’s over. SO they skew the #s.
I ask people at starbucks and publix, and kroger, and home depot, for their opinion, and guess what? Nobody’s shy about enthusiastically supporting Obama for President. No matter how many people I ask, it always breaks down to 65/35 for Obama. Blow….OUT!
Americans are sick to death of the GOP. Only the diehard bush base, about 35% of the voters will vote for GOP. The only GOP support left is from folks with a commercial interest instead of a political interest in a Republican white house and congress. (but then I repeat myself)
This trend could last a generation.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
When people throw around raw numbers it’s easy to just go along with their premise, but sometimes it’s fun to look a little deeper than your average leftist ever will. For instance
When I voted yesterday at 5:20 pm, I was the 165th to vote at my polling place. My precinct has over 3000 voters.
Kinda’ sad don’t ya’ think?.
Possibly it is, but what if you live in a precinct that has a large percentage of those 3000 that vote Republican and they had no runoff or at least no significant runoff? In that case it may have been a remarkably high turnout in a runoff for a Senate candidate with virtually no chance of winning in November.
Just some food for thought on my way out the door. Does anybody buy Jim Wooten’s premise that there was some super secret Obumbler whisper campaign that turned the Senate runoff around with nobody getting wind of it in advance? I know I don’t. Mr. Wooten, you’re usually better than this. It’s fairly obvious that the electorate was shocked that Jones even got close the first time around. It’s also not that shocking a turnaround for a runoff. See McKinney, Cynthia.
Later y’all and for those playing at home the Texas Rangers got one step closer to playing .600 ball since they were written as America’s laughingstock.
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Later!
By Ga Values
August 6, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
BFKaJ —-I really think Saxby is a crook..Did you read McCain’s stand on the farm bill.. lots of good stuff.. we’ll see if the upper mid west votes for gun rights or their pocket book, as you know almost all the farm pay offs go to big corporations but I’m sure Saxby will carry south Ga.
By Devastator
August 6, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
St.Pete,
You are absolutely correct. The media skews the numbers and then makes a story out of it. Not to mention the cell phone only users(that I keep mentioning) that cannot be polled. Most of them are Obama’s.
By Get Real
August 6, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
Wooten has said repeatedly that blacks will vote en masse for Obama and every other black candidate. When they don’t, its because Obama and his campaign told them to vote for the other candidate. Where’s the beef Wooten? Where’s an email, flyer, or anything else that shows Obama endorsing Martin in this run-off? When he came to Georgia last month, did he meet with Martin? Tell us everything you know Wooten. True journalism at its best right? Sure.
People saw Jones for what he was, nothing more. I’m black and I voted for Martin twice. Voted for Isaackson too, but that was a mistake. This is the most ridiculous article Wooten has ever written. He tries to tie Obama to everything. I didn’t get a letter from the Democratic Party or Obama on whom to vote for, I just used my best judgment. If Jones couldn’t do anything as Dekalb CEO, what could he do as a Senator. I don’t need a nominee for President OR the Democratic Party to tell me something I already know Wooten. You’re a liar and a hack journalist. I hope when you look back on your career, its something you can be proud of.
By Lily Toad
August 6, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
Jim Martin won because (a) he is the best candidate, and (b) turnout. No, Obama’s people didn’t whisper in our ears to vote for Martin, we Dems considered the candidates and voted for the one we like best and who will have the best chance to unseat Saxby. I know it’s a long shot, but with Jones, it would have been a slingshot against a tank.
The most insightful comment today came from ron who predicts by November Obama will be a moderate Republican. He’s certainly headed in that direction.
By Paul
August 6, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
JW 9:12
[[Has anything happened in the past six months that Senator Obama is not responsible for?]]
This is just a natural result of years of hearing there was nothing that took place in the entire Federal bureaucracy that Pres Bush was not responsible for. Dems traded short-term political gain (same as with labeling a difference of opinion as a “lie”) for long-term problems when they gained the positions of power.
St Pete 9:18
[[Cheney talking like a retard… Rove dancing and singing like a retard…“Oooga Booga” (camera to president voodoo-mugging like a retard)…Obama 08: America takes over]]
So this is the language (“retard, ooga booga”), labeling and level of discourse we can expect from an Obama administration?
Devastator 9:35
When the tax breaks for big oil came up in 2005, didn’t Obama vote for them while McCain voted against them?
From factcheck dot org regarding McCain voting with Pres Bush 95 percent of the time (that’s only for 2007, BTW):
“The claim is true. According to Congressional Quarterly’s Voting Studies, in 2007 McCain voted in line with the president’s position 95 percent of the time – the highest percentage rate for McCain since Bush took office – and voted in line with his party 90 percent of the time. However, McCain’s support of President Bush’s position has been as low as 77 percent (in 2005), and his support for his party’s position has been as low as 67 percent (2001).
As for whether voting with Bush 95 percent of the time last year is “significant,” that’s a matter of opinion that we leave to readers to determine for themselves.
When doing so, they may wish to consider that Obama’s votes were in line with the president’s position 40 percent of the time in 2007.”
So, based upon one year’s vote, we can expect President Obama to be like Pres Bush 40 percent of the time?
By six/foot/six
August 6, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
@ Bud Kaiser aka Bud Wiser August 6, 2008 8:22 AM
If Obama’s appeal was specifically targeted towards blacks and the media, I’m sure he wouldn’t stand a chance in the general election in November. For one us blacks make up about what, 11%-13% of the total population? Throw in the numbers of us that are/or have been incarcerated for long periods of time and are unable to vote because of our criminal records and I would sadly say the number comes down to about 9%, not even counting those of us who don’t care or are just plan indifferent. The final tally would probably rest at 6% or 7% of the number of eligible voters out of the whole USA. And as far as the media, sheesh, get over yourself, Obama is not and never was the media’s sweetheart. Just because you see him on the cover of Rolling Stone says more about the current displeasure America is feeling over the last 7 years while Bush and his cronies implement phase II of the New World Order (Phase I was started by Bush Sr.), than about the media’s infatuation with him. For every supporter of Obama in the media there is a dissident such as good ol’ Jim Wooten or even Fox News who is so obsessed with tearing Obama’s campaign down that they hardly even talk about McCain. But just like I said yesterday Kaiser, this election isn’t really a referendum for McCain, because you right wingers don’t like him either, you all are really just voting against Obama.
By getalife "whiners"
August 6, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
Jones lost because he admitted voting for w twice.
The old guy had a blast at Sturgis ripping a page out of the ones playbook and speaking at a free concert before Kid Rock.
Then offered up his wife for a wet t-shirt contest. Family values for the old guy is a little different from the wingnuts. Meth, naked, drunk and harleys.
Anyhoo, the Paris response video to him is hilarious. A funny day in politics yesterday.
By ron
August 6, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
St.Pete.The people you are polling are like me.They’ll say they’re voting for Obama in public because they’re tired of being called a racist if they indicate a preference for McCain.
By AmVet
August 6, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
Duh(ng) RW,
America’s laughingstock, as you have named them, are a million games (actually 10.5) behind the Angels. (are they from Anaheim? LA? Both?)
And odds are, probably won’t even make a wild card appearance. Again.
It’s kinda like arguing how many seats will the GOP lose in Congress this fall? Twenty? Thirty? More?
It’s all just more semi-desperate mental masturbation for lovable (or not) losers to make an insignificant point important.
Off to keep the American economic engine humming. And to pay for the occupation.
Caio…
By cc
August 6, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
another bush slap in the face to America, he went out of his way to try to help stop the execution of an illegal immigrant in texas that raped and murdered two young girls. i am a white male, veteran and a u.s. citizen, the kind of u.s.citizen who’s parents are u.s. citizens, you know, the real kind. but if i had commited this same crime bush would not have tried to stop my execution. all for cheap labor for his corporate buddies that conveniently always forget to trickle down the huge amounts of money that they save, and all the while kissing the butt of mexico. what is patriotic about george bush’s actions?
john mccain bad mouthing other peoples children and it’s just funny, john kerry mentions the cheney’s daughter in a positive light and all the republicans can do is whine cry, carry on like a bunch of over sensitive babies. big double satndard. the republican party doesn’t care about Jesus, America, or you family, just the bottom line. they are just about the money. words don’t mean crap if you can’t back them up with good deeds. the same idiots that think oil is the answer. nothing worse than a group of people that have done so much to hurt this country the whole time wrapping themselves in the flag.
By Devastator
August 6, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
Paul,
I’ll bet those issues that he voted differently on had something to with cultural or spiritual matters. That’s why the GOP doesn’t like him.
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 6, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
So….
McCain takes a photo op tour through the model plant for the China Syndrome and suggests his wife be Miss Buffalo Chip????
If he knows what he’s doing with this stupid stuff….he should not be President.
If he does not know, and his campaign is “over handling” him…..he still should not be President.
Did y’all see Paris Hilton’s response ad?
The long version?
By Denise J
August 6, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
I’m not sure why people are assuming that all of the Black voters would vote for Vernon Jones. I am a professional African American woman in Atlanta who voted for Jim Martin in the primaries and runoff. All of the African American friends I spoke to (primarily professional women) were planning to vote for Jim Martin as well. Most stated that Vernon Jones has a scandalous reputation and felt it was highly likely that if by some stretch he could beat Chambliss, Jones would be bringing scandal to that office too. The other reason people stated is that they felt Martin had a better chance of beating Chambliss and the most important thing was trying to get a Democrat in.
Although it probably wasn’t the deal-breaker, most of the African Americans I spoke with, myself included, are Obama supporters and the whole Vernon Jones ad with Obama photoshopped in was a huge turnoff.
By Paul
August 6, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
Devastator
The Diane Rehm show on NPR is about each candidate’s energy policies and their implications for the country. Given the inaccurate statements posted here yesterday about the candidates’ positions, it’d be a worthwhile listen.
The site also archives the discussion for later playback.
getalife whiner
After the McCain video with Paris came out, Leno said “wow, all those videos with Paris that got released, and THIS is the one her mom’s upset about?”
It was a funny day - and her energy proposal sounded a lot like McCain’s!
By shawn hanley
August 6, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Thank You Sen. John McCain and the IRI
Mike McIntire’s July 28th article in the NYT, “Democracy Gives Donors Access to McCain”, is nothing more than a fishing expedition. It proves that the corporate world – and, even lobbyists — can play crucial roles in advancing freedom around the world. McIntire’s article focuses on a long list of donors to the International Republican Institute (IRI) and argues that there must be an agenda beyond fighting for capitalism, entrepreneurship and freedom around the world. The entire article has only one line about the IRI’s mission.
What an idea! Go to the corporate world, where capitalism has proven beneficial for all of us, and ask them to contribute to another nation, so they, too, can benefit from the birth of a new capitalistic, free society.
While Obama was voting “present” on pot-hole legislation in Illinois , John McCain and the entire IRI board were focusing on raising money to make the world more free and democratic.
As a former Marine, I worked for the IRI as the Senior Program Officer for Political Parties. From 2005 through 2006, I trained the Iraqi people on political party development. I helped prepare Iraqis for their constitutional referendum and their first free election by training over 100 political parties in Erbil, Baghdad and Basrah. I taught political parties how to run their campaigns, budget and allocate resources, use the media and turn out the vote on Election Day. McIntire needs to understand that these are not Republican ideals. They are American ideals, born of a free society.
During my time in Iraq , the IRI Board was so focused on its mission that they had American personnel living and training political party members in the Red Zone. Why? Because it was the only way to give each party a chance at a free and fair election since many of these political parties, such as the Iraqi Islamic Party (IIP), could not get through the first gate of the Green Zone.
One evening, the IRI Board was notified by the State Department that it had picked up “chatter” that our Red Zone compound was about to be mortared and terrorists would enter the compound and take American hostages. Instantly, the IRI Board relocated our living quarters to the Green Zone but our Red Zone trainings continued.
Another time, the Al-Hamra Hotel received a direct attack. A secure Red Zone compound, the Al-Hamara Hotel was the site of extensive training for over fifty political parties with over 400 party members. On the seventh day of trainings, one of my Iraqi staffers notified security that nearly half of the next day trainees, another group from the IIP, had cancelled. Noting, “something was up”, training for the next day was cancelled. It was that day that the Al-Hamra Hotel blew up; people were killed, and IRI local staff sustained minor injuries. Within minutes of the blast, the IRI Board was focused on one issue—how do we continue to conduct these classes and keep our staff safe? Within 48 hours of the Al-Hamra explosions, my colleague and I were teaching at Baghdad University , the new Red Zone training compound.
Bringing freedom around the world costs a lot of money, but somehow McIntire believes that freedom is free and those who donate must have an “angle” when they contribute. He even suggests that Alec Poitevint, a friend of John McCain’s and member of the IRI Board, gave money to the campaign to get something in return. I wonder if McIntire knows that Mr. Poitevint volunteered in Bulgaria in 1990 as an election observer and trainer. And, Mr. Poitevint did the same in Romania , Azerbaijan , Kazakhstan and the Ukraine .
Maybe people contribute because they believe in the International Republican Party and Sen. John McCain. I have one thing to say to Sen. John McCain, AT&T, Lorne Craner, Alec Poitevint, Judy Van Rest, Bellsouth, the entire IRI Board, and every lobbyist who contributed to the IRI. Thank you.
You helped keep us safe while we were able to bring free elections to a country now rid of a tyrant. Robert Frost once said “Freedom lies in being bold.” Thank you, International Republican Institute, for being bold.
Shawn Hanley,
Atlanta, Georgia
By Devastator
August 6, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
ron,
You’re a presumpious idiot. Nobody automatically declares that whoever votes for McCain is a racist. That’s never said or inferred.
If thinking that makes you feel better about the polls then more power to you.
By Steve
August 6, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
Its really quite simple. Jones is a polarizing figure. Some people love him, and others hate him. Not a lot of ambivalent voters when it comes to him. In the primary, there were five candidates and the average voter turned out either to vote for Jones, or against Jones. In this run-off the “against Jones” vote only had one guy to pick.
I should know. I am one of the “against jones” voters. In the 2004 Dekalb County CEO race, he was not contested. I actually typed in, “Anyone else”.
The Dekalb County Commissioners have allowed developers free reign over our county for 8 years. Despite the lack of need for new housing, anyone with a bulldozer was allowed to scrape every oak tree down and build poorly contructed homes.
Had Vernon Jones stood up against developers and forseen the housing crash, AND kept his hands to himself, AND not used tax dollars to pay for his private security details all night, then he wouldn’t have had such a polarizing effect.
By Lou for LA
August 6, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
I sent this to Ms. Tucker about her racial column today. I wanted to copy JW, but could not.
Does no one see that Mr. Obama accuses his opponent of something no one has done???
Ms. Tucker:
“So what they’re going to try to do is make you scared of me,”
What Mr. Obama says here is something that his opponents are GOING to do, not something they have done. When people hear his words, the fact that his opponents in fact HAVE NOT (perhaps yet) used those tactics are lost on his audience. Instead we hear that those nasty Republicans have already used those reprehensible tactics, and feel empathy for Mr. Obama’s plight.
In my mind, this is dirty politics. Phrasing accusations that aren’t true in a way that makes them sound true.
Ms. Tucker, I’ve written to you several times before and you have yet to answer me. I surely would appreciate an acknowledgement.
I can understand that the response is to defend him, but please also take him to task for using false and misleading tactics.
Lewis Moore
By Paul
August 6, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this
Devastator 10:02
Actually, I believe there were some significant policy differences.
It wasn’t too long ago Reps referred to McCain as the Dem’s best friend. The Rep “base” hated him - yet he still got the nomination. Partly shows just how fed up many Reps were with the leadership and policies.
But I think a core strategy of Obama is to associate McCain with Pres Bush in voter’s minds and to transfer the negative feelings for Pres Bush to McCain. Hence, you get these kinds of ads.
Rather than ads about the issues. In that respect they’re both acting like conventional politicians.
Mrs. Godzilla 10:03
Does this mean your sources are against nuclear power? Doesn’t this put them in opposition to Sen Obama’s record - particularly his votes for nuclear power in 2005?
By Devastator
August 6, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Lou for LA,
What do you call comparing him to Paris Hilton, addressing him by his middle name, quesioning his citizenship, the muslim rumors?
These are just a few things that his opponents have thrown at him irrespecitve of his policies. John McCain might not have said them personally , but McCain isn’t the only republican that is influencing the electorate. Everyone around him and talk radio are saying them.
You got no response because you’re opinion didn’t make any sense.
By Copyleft
August 6, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
Conservatives aren’t allowed to be openly obsessive about race any more, so now they have to couch their racism in the form of complaints about OTHER people’s REVERSE racism!
All to hold together a desperately faltering and failing coalition between ignorant Southern whites (whose numbers are dwindling) and corrupt conservative-movement leaders (who never gave a damn about “socially conservative values” in the first place). It’s funny to watch, really.
Bud: I think you need some clarification in your understanding of the word fact.
FACT: Blacks overwhelmingly support Obama.
OPINION: It’s just because of color.
See the difference? One is a demonstrable fact supported by evidence; the other is the stuff that talk-radio fantasies are made of.
By Peter
August 6, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
Jim……..I think maybe you should organize a “Prayer Meeting” for all the Republicans…….. That should work as you will need all the help you can get.
By Devastator
August 6, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
Paul,
They are being typical politicos. However you must admit that McCain’s support for the war and the Bush tax cuts are Obama’s primary reason for linking him with Bush.
Obama does have a good case.
By Midori
August 6, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
But, it boils down to this: Of course blacks vote only color, when available, in their contests
I’m black and I didn’t vote for Jones.
Kinda disproves your ignorant thesis, doesn’t it?
By Curious Observer
August 6, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
They are being typical politicos. However you must admit that McCain’s support for the war and the Bush tax cuts are Obama’s primary reason for linking him with Bush.
That and the little matter of McCain’s appearing on TV in January to say, “I agree with President Bush more than 90% of the time.”
By ron
August 6, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
Mr.Devastator,I speak from my own experiences,and I feel it safe to to assume that I can’t be the only white being called a racist because I don’t want to vote for Obama.Fair emough?
By CommunistAJC
August 6, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
GMAN, Blacks don’t vote based on race? I’ve lived in Atlanta for 22 years and I’ve heard more blacks talk about voting on skin color. I remember VERY well when Atlanta mayors would say, on live television, if the candidate is black vote black. The DNC is the racist party. Your party has held blacks under your belt since the civil rights era. Your party chairman has made so many racist remarks in his 4 years of crappy leadership. The Democrat congress approval rating is the worst in history. NINE PERCENT. That makes Bush look like Lincoln. IF the GOP gets this handle on oil drilling then all you idiot democrats can kiss November goodbye. One more thing, can any of you moonbats tell me why Obama Hussein is trailing Mccain in national polls? I can give you a hint. It’s because he’s an IDIOT!
By CommunistAJC
August 6, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla, Did you see Mcains ad about Obama being the messiah? Best political ad ever. Your man, Hussien, is an empty suit driven by George Soros. He is going to LOSE this November. He has no ideas on how to fix anything.
By CommunistAJC
August 6, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
Lou for LA, Cymfia won’t e-mail you because you disagree with her. Libs can not debate their own arguments because most of the time their arguments lack facts. She’s as racist as they come. Why else would she not allow people to respond to her “articles?” It’s because she knows people despise her and her racist opinion. Everything is about race in her life.
By Blind Homer
August 6, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
Blah, blah, blah…. Saxby and McCan will win in Georgia this Fall and all you blues should move to Taxachusetts!
By Tom
August 6, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
There’s no comparison between Jim Martin and Saxby. While the coward and traitor Jim Martin was hiding out in jungle-camo disguise in Vietnam, Saxby was courageously accumulating medical exemptions for “back problems” that miraculously cured themselves ca. 1975.
Saxby Chambliss: Wisdom. Patriotism. Courage.
By Devastator
August 6, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
Mr.ron,
I do voter registration 3 times a week. I’ll be happy to to tell all the white guys and women who proudly tell me they support McCain without a second thought that you feel that way.
The only time people start throwing around the racism charge is when attacks on his name and background come forward. If you support McCain on issues, then there is no problem with that from any blacks or whites that I know.
Who has issued that charge outside of times when it has been called for(non policy related).
By Paul
August 6, 2008 10:53 AM | Link to this
Devastator 10:26
Linking McCain with Pres Bush over the start of the Iraq war can prove to be a minefield for Obama.
I’ve linked to Obama’s speech opposing initial involvement in Iraq. He accurately foresaw the difficulties. Score one for Obama.
McCain was an early-on critic of the Administration’s handling of the war and, I believe, called for SecDef’ Rumsfeld’s firing. About the same as Obama.
McCain was an early advocate of more troops. I was skeptical as I didn’t see any difference in how to use them. When the call for more troops linked to a change in strategy came (the surge) McCain supported, Obama opposed. The result was a reduction in violence and a more stable atmosphere for Iraq. Score one for McCain.
So Obama scores on an initial assessment. McCain scores in a situation where there’s a situation and the question is, what’s the best way to proceed to best protect America’s interests? McCain may extrapolate this to question Obama’s national security judgment in other areas. In other words “When faced with a problem he advocated a course that would have been detrimental to America’s interests. As President, he will be faced with many decisions regarding situations he inherited. Can we afford to risk if he will do any better next time?”
Obama’s advisors should have foreseen this line of challenge - which directly plays to one of his perceived weaknesses. Which is why as a campaign strategy I think Obama should drop it.
The tax cuts are a McCain weakness - puts theory and doctrine over political impact. There may be those who argue against rescinding the cuts for the top one or two percent - but keeping the cuts for the bulk of taxpayers and not keeping them for the top couple percent will cost McCain votes with who, exactly? He should change his position.
And go after Democrats who court hedge fund and other investment managers, whose annual income is many, many times the amounts paid to the heads of big oil companies. And who pay drastically less in tax.
By Glenn and jbmlaw
August 6, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Snitching two at a time saves time, fuel and reduces damage to the ozone layer.
By Cy Brown
August 6, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Get ready Kool-Aid drinking Obama robots…your candidate is going to get beaten like a red-headed stepchild in November…Americans don’t like being told who to vote for, or white guilted into voting for an arrogant, egotistical candidate like Obama who thinks the world revolves around him..
By Devastator
August 6, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this
ELKHART, Ind. - Democrat Barack Obama campaigned on Wednesday with a man considered by many to be on his short list of running mates, Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh. Obama called him “one of the finest U.S. senators that we have,” but he gave no indication that he was nearing a vice presidential decision.
Bayh was to spend the day with his neighboring senator in a usually Republican state that is viewed as a battleground this year.
Bayh, a former two-term governor and son of former Sen. Birch Bayh, has been widely viewed a top-tier running mate prospect. He is a former supporter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, has executive experience and is a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Furthermore, Democrats view Indiana — which has not voted for a Democrat for president since 1964 — as competitive.
That led to considerable speculation, especially here, that if Obama had settled on Bayh, he would use this visit to announce the decision. But it was not to be.
Bayh said Obama would bring “a breath of fresh air” to the nation’s capital. He said Republican John McCain “is not a bad man,” but that McCain had some bad policies.
Bayh opened his introduction of Obama by saying he had some “good news” to depart.
“In five short months, the Bush administration will be done,” Bayh said. A McCain victory, he said, would mean “four more years of what we’ve had.”
Obama campaigned in Indiana as his campaign released a new television ad that seeks to link McCain to President Bush and questions whether McCain is the political maverick he claims to be. It shows McCain acknowledging that he agrees with Bush on most issues.
The ad also criticizes McCain on three economic issues of concern to middle-class voters: tax breaks for the wealthy, money for oil companies, and tax breaks for companies that send jobs overseas. The ad ends with a smiling McCain and Bush side by side.
By Dave
August 6, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
Yes, Martin helps. He can help unite the ticket, not possibly (likely) polarize it.
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 6, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
DUH @ 10:43
I must disagree.
Evangelicals have already begun a protest of that ad….course he doesn’t have that base group locked up anymore.
The empty suit surely is McCain - driven by Rupert Murdoch and Sheldon Adleson.
Odds are, now, that he will win in November because he is wise and learned. He has this talent that the GOP has lacked since the late 50’s…..to plan, set goals and complete the task at hand.
Watch Obama after the convention, dude, he’s just warming up!
I’d say something snarky, but Duh, an Obama administration would help out even you!
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 6, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
Paul
You best double check this
” I believe, called for SecDef’ Rumsfeld’s firing. “
I believe he did not…..
By Realist
August 6, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Bud Wiser, you are so ignorant! That’s what I despise about white people. So arrogant and ignorant and quick to point out that blacks only vote for black candidates. How many times have white people NOT voted for a qualified black candidate just because they’re black? Racists folks like Bud Unwise would rather have an unqualified white candidate in office, even if it means they suffer as a result, than have a black candidate whose position will offer progress.
By AmVet
August 6, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
The giant, bungling, gawd-awful reality show that IS the GOP continues to provide endless entertainment.
WASHINGTON — Will he or won’t he? Vice President Dick Cheney is one of the nation’s most prominent Republicans, but there are doubts about whether he will attend the GOP convention.
I can’t begin to guess why such a “prominent” “conservative” and valoros class act like Darth Cheney wouldn’t be there in purple robes?
Perhaps his minion, Mr. Bush, will stand in his stead.
Separately, six Republican senators have decided to skip the GOP convention. Sens. Ted Stevens of Alaska, Gordon Smith of Oregon, Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina and Susan Collins of Maine all face tough re-election campaigns. Two others, Wayne Allard of Colorado and Larry Craig of Idaho, are retiring.
Not TOO bad, only a third of them are shameful creeps.
And what about the red faced, blow-a-gasket Zell?
And is 9/11 terrorism, terrorism, terrorism Rudy going to make a rare guest appearance?
And what of the lurking Lurch? Does he ascend to heir to His Majesty’s Cheney’s throne or will he just stay home and watch the bloody spectacle wearing his flip-flops?
And will the other Rinos like Ahnold, Lincoln Chafee and this era’s Rockefeller Republicans hold sway at the liberal Senator from Arizona’s party, and the mass defections/cutting and running from the far right wing continue unabated?
Inquiring minds want to know…
By Taxpayer
August 6, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
Did anyone read the article about Iraq’s oil profits versus what the US has already spent on re-building their country:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080805/ wl_mcclatchy/3010139
How about Charles Wheelan’s article about Bush and the new-age Republicans:
http://finance.yahoo.com/expert/article/economist/98587
There’s just tons of good reading out there that exposes more of the truth about the Republican Party and its failed policies and its lies and deceit of those that supported it.
By Spence
August 6, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this
What is the chance that Cobb County elects a black Commission Chairperson? It seems we have a double standard here, as usual.
Blacks make up 25% of the population in Cobb County but have never had a black county chairperson. I guess whites only vote for whites.
By @@
August 6, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
Well Jim, I must say I seriously thought about voting for Vernon Jones but opted for the weaker candidate to go up against Chambliss in November.
For those who choose to employ the politics of race, I say NO WAY! If you want to witness racial politics at its’ worst, you have only to look at Clayton County where I was part of a movement to rid our county of racist politics. I was successful, save one - my district commission member, Wole Ralph. He reminds me a lot of Obama. Early on, I was impressed with Wole until I found out that he was working for Victor Hill and the Scott’s from behind the scenes. Wole can be easily manipulated. He now stands alone in a sea of conservative Democrats leading our County. He won’t be able to get away with much if he wants to hold on to his position.
This is, by far, the best article revealing all that can go wrong when race makes its’ way into local politics.
Congratulations to Eldrin Bell, a candidate who recognizes the damage that can be done when race takes precedence over competent leadership. Kudos to those voters, black and white alike, who wanted something better for our county.
In a circle of five they gather and yield to the chairman when he speaks. He does so with a minister’s flair, telling them Clayton is the victim of a political divide inside the black community, with one faction led, in part, by Lee Scott, who is challenging Bell for the county’s top elected position.
“We came out of an era as separate but unequal, creating greed among ourselves,” Bell says. He references the fact that Africans once sold rival tribesmen into slavery. “Remember who sold who into slavery. We are no different now than we were then, just a bit more sophisticated. Isn’t it ironic amongst our own community, [people] came out and said, ‘They got theirs, and now I want mine.’ And they want it without the effort that goes with it.”
Here’s to enjoying the benefits of freedom and the consequences of bad decisions under new management. As I’ve always said……give me an African American who comes out of the gate with conservative policies and I’ll have no problem voting my principles.
I am thrilled with and for Clayton County.
By St. Pete
August 6, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
CNN just reported that Osama’s driver was charged with tailgating, running a red light, and driving the 911 getaway car, the dirty rat.
Obama 08: America4America
Paul, your comment picked up some steam, but you got lost in the complexity of the campaign. Try to keep it simple, and I’ll bet more retards will read you. Then you’ll have your own little short bus show on this dog and pony blog, man.
Now here’s what’s really happening in Iraq: The surge worked. What does that mean? I dont know. Maybe Paul can tell us how it affects the end game scenario. What’s the end game scenario in Iraq? I dont know, maybe you can tell us how the three factions react when we pull out, if we pull out. Will we pull out? I dont know, maybe you can tell us why we’re not stuck in Iraq forever babysitting the three rival factions.
The sad fact is we have no idea where Iraq is right now, only that the surge worked, whatever that means for Iraq’s long term prospects. Paul, How much has the Iraq War cost to date? “A hundred dollars, yeah, a hundred dollars, yeah, hundert dollars, yeah…yeah…….”
Maybe if you quit pretending to know what you’re talking about…….
By Realist
August 6, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
Bud Wiser, you are so ignorant! That’s what I despise about white people. So arrogant and ignorant and quick to point out that blacks only vote for black candidates. How many times have white people NOT voted for a qualified black candidate just because they’re black? Racists folks like Bud Unwise would rather have an unqualified white candidate in office, even if it means they suffer as a result, than have a black candidate whose position will offer progress.
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 6, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
A little bit of what’s not in the AJC….
* Suskind: Anxiety Over Wilson and Plame Led Bush Administration To Pay Iraqi ‘Hush Money’ On WMD*
Flashback: Seven years ago today, Bush received ‘Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.’ memo.
* House GOP attacks ‘Beijing George’ Bush for rebuffing their political stunt on drilling.»* (Note: Yesterday Randi did a piece on how much that handful of Republicans had gotten in contributions from oil companies)
Pentagon Spokesman Disputes Mullen’s View Of Afghanistan: Nothing ‘Urgent Or Precarious’ About It
* Humana CEO McCallister Endorses Univeral Health Care*
America’s Auto Makers: Congress Should Inflate Their Tires, Not Their Rhetoric
* Obama Ads Will Run On FL Gas Pump TVs*
The Democratic National Committee on Wednesday is launching an “Exxon-McCain ’08” campaign, complete with a gas-pump logo and garish red buttons, bumper stickers and yard signs.
By Paul
August 6, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla 11:09
That is correct, Sen McCain did not call for McCain’s firing. He did say ” his comments were not a call for Rumsfeld’s resignation, explaining that President Bush “can have the team that he wants around him.”
McCain did say he had ‘no confidence’ in Rumsfeld and said he was one of the worst Defense Secretaries in US history. So there’s little doubt of what a Pres McCain would have done with him.
St Pete 11:15
You must be new here. Unlike Obama and McCain, I’m in favor of disengagement from the Middle East and a drastic reduction in the defense budget. If I thought you were interested in a serious discussion I’d repeat what I’ve written here, many times before.
One can make the case there’s little difference between Obama and McCain in their goal of moving troops around various locations in the Middle East for as far out as anyone can see. Or do you agree with Sen Obama’s plan to have the US continue spending about half the world’s expenditures on defense, or with maintaining a military presence in nearly every country on the globe?
Those are a couple of areas in which Obama will not bring us ‘change.’
By Whatever
August 6, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
**painting former state lawmaker Jim Martin as a liberal backed by liberals in Washington.
In a press conference just hours after Martin trounced DeKalb CEO Vernon Jones to become the Democratic U.S. Senate nominee, Chambliss said he expects the “full force” of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee “blasting us.”
Election news
Cobb Commission losing two incumbents
Fulton sheriff defeated but court clerk hangs on
Chambliss: Ready for Martin ‘onslaught’
Democrat: I’m smart alternative to Bannister
Hill ousted from Clayton sheriff post
Bannister wins Republican runoff in Gwinnett
LIVE RESULTS: U.S. Senate | Georgia Senate Georgia House | Clayton Cobb | DeKalb | Douglas Fayette | Forsyth | Fulton Gwinnett | Henry | All races • Photos: Voting | Results • Georgia Voter Guide • More on Georgia politics
“We’re prepared for the onslaught that will come from the Democrats,” said the 64-year-old first-term senator from Moultrie.
Martin, who spent 18 years in the state Legislature and later was Commissioner of the state Department of Human Resources, faces an uphill battle against Chambliss, who has raised millions for his campaign and has pre-purchased $5.2 million for media advertising.
Martin, 62, and Chambliss face each other and Libertarian Allen Buckley in November.
Chambliss spent the morning trying to distance himself from President Bush and trying to tie Martin to liberal members of the U.S. Senate who back Martin’s campaign. Chambliss rode Bush’s coattails to victory in 2002 in a come-from-behind win against former U.S. Sen. Max Cleland.
“I don’t think there’s a state in America that either party should take for granted,” Chambliss said. “This will be an election year like none other the United States has seen.”
Chambliss said Sen. John McCain will campaign on his behalf in Georgia, but President Bush will not.
“Unfortunately we were never able to work out a schedule,” Chambliss said.**
Yeah right, unfortunately you weren’t able to work out a schedule. Zaxby’s must think people are stupid.
By Paul
August 6, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla 11:42
Obama’s vote for big oil with the energy bill (and McCain’s vote against it) just won’t go away, will it?
Maybe they can make another commercial with Sen Hagel saying (as he did with the surge) “‘“Quit talking about… Did you vote for this or support this-‘”
By Ga Dem
August 6, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
Talk about a non-sequitur! Mr. Wooten, Georgia Democrats (who voted in July) who did not vote for Jones voted for Martin, Knight, Cardwell, or Lanier. The Knight, Cardwell and Lanier voters voted for Martin instead of Jones yesterday, because Jones is NOT a Democrat, and Martin IS a Democrat. (Jones supporters were consistently, for reasons I cannot fathom, not bothered by that fact.) I think the outcome of yesterday’s runoff had little, if anything, to do with Obama’s candidacy. Most, if not all, Georgia’s Democrats are solidly behind Obama no matter who’s running against Zaxby the Shameless.
Glad you’re finally admitting Georgia is in play this November, even though your logic is as squirrelly as your suburban back yard.
By @@
August 6, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
Paul @ 11:42:
Although your post wasn’t directed at me, I view them as teases prompting a follow-up question. Often you’ve promoted disengagement from the ME and cut-backs in defense spending.
Would that be disengagement from an energy perspective? Would you also remove all military bases?
Would you cut defense spending from a perspective of conventional warfare and instead apply it to technological advances in national defense?
Been wanting clarification on those two for some time now. I’m just not around often enough to ask.
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 6, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
Today, the Washington Post has a pretty explosive story about some more unlikely contributions that were sent McCain’s way.
AND
“Senator McCain’s energy plan reads like an early Christmas list for oil and gas lobbyists. And it’s no wonder – because many of his top advisors are former oil and gas lobbyists.”
Obama in IN a few minutes ago
By rightytighty
August 6, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
Obama will not win Georgia because Republicans will not vote for a tax and spend liberal. Period! The only thing worse than Republicans wasting my tax dollars are Democrats wasting twice as much!! Sorry Ms Tucker, senseless claims of racism and victimization can only buy you so much sympathy in today’s world, and you’ve already spent your purse.
On the other hand, the democratic primaries clearly showed us the racist characteristics of the so-called progressive democrats. What else would you call 90% of blacks voting for Obama and 65% of whites voting for Hillary? Policy differences?? And where was the progressive reporting on those statistics? Hmmm… Clearly we have a racist DNC and a corrupt media hiding it. Ms Tuckers also did her part, driving her points home with her sudden Clinton attack articles, after years of supporting ones. Hmmm… Policy differences with the Clintons or bottom dealing racism??
No, the fact is, that Obama’s lack of a resume leaves him with very little to run on. Thats why he keeps bringing up his race, I mean, difference from all other past Presidents. What difference couuuuuld that be? Obama’s big dumbo ears?? That’s the only other difference I can see..
By St. Pete
August 6, 2008 12:12 PM | Link to this
I just visited Saxby’s website. I clicked on his “Energy Plan”. I got “The page you want doesn’t exist”.
I clicked on his ideas about the home foreclosure crisis. I got “The page you want doesnt exist”.
Saxby Chambliss is a cardboard cutout of a candidate. He’s the real life ending to “blazing saddles”, where the town’s people were just cardboard cutouts.
Does Saxby Chambliss exist? I’ve never seen him, at least not in the same room with Lieberman. I know Lieberman exists because you cant invent a schmoe like that.
All I found on Saxby Chambliss’s websight was this, which I hacked in there:
“The Kurds are being taken seriously for the first time in their history. Historically, whenever the Kurds were squatting, they were simply herded up and driven out. Now, they’re squatting on oil rich land, and they aint agreeing to just any proposal the Sunnis or Shias make about sharing the wealth.
For the first time in history, the Kurds are talking and the arabs are listening. Kurds are not arabs. They are Kurds. Iranians aren’t arab either. They are Persians. Fewer than one in a thousand americans know this, but it’s all Iraqis think about. But we know how it’s going to turn out when we withdraw our troops? Please.
But for the first time, the Kurds are not simply packing up and going along nicely. They are staying put. They’ve just experienced a golden age thanx to our post desert storm no fly zone. Saddam couldn’t touch them. They are unlikely to agree to anything the sunnis or the shia propose. If we leave, the Kurds will be the first casualties in the chaos that proceeds our withdrawal.”
check it out.
By Connie Payton
August 6, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this
Yeah! I was determined to vote for Martin. Jones organization called my house quite a few times and the more they called, the more determined I was to not vote for Jones. Just because I am black doesn’t mean I vote black. I vote quality and character and Jones has had too many nasty incidents in Dekalb. But what really sealed my decision was the news that he voted for BUSH!!!! Anybody that voted for Bush is certainly not on my side.
Amen!
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 6, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama came to Baldwin-Wallace College in Berea Tuesday afternoon to talk about his energy policies, as he had earlier in the day in Youngstown. But before he could delve into the topic, a man in the press photo gallery interrupted him, shouting complaints that the Illinois senator had not started the program with the Pledge of Allegiance. Many in the packed gymnasium murmured and some booed the disruption, but Obama took the heckler in stride and asked him to lead the pledge. The crowd rose to its feet, Obama placed his hand over his heart and everyone recited the pledge. Obama thanked the man, who was not removed by campaign staff, and returned to his speech.
AND
The Next Cheney
By Midori
August 6, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
Ga Dem: thank you so very much for that 11:54.
Cy Brown @ 11:03: I’ve got your arrogance right here
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 6, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
GREAT TOON
By @@
August 6, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this
PoliFore/St.Pete:
Paul, your comment picked up some steam, but you got lost in the complexity of the campaign. Try to keep it simple, and I’ll bet more retards will read you. Then you’ll have your own little short bus show on this dog and pony blog, man.
Just so you understand, I DO NOT WORK FOR YOU!!
By Midori
August 6, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
the same goes for you, rightytighty
By getalife "whiners"
August 6, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
Well, w was wrong.
The grandstanding oil party does have a magic wand. All they have to do is talk to each other and shazam, oil drops.
Abracadabra.
By Political Scapegoat
August 6, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
I thought @@ was a chick anyway … man.
By rightytighty
August 6, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
Last year Obama, not McCain voted in favor of Bush’s Energy Plan. And just recently, Obama voted to extend Bush’s dreaded Patriot Act, including wiring tapping.
Clearly Obama’s not on Connie Payton’s side either…
By Mrs. Godzilla
August 6, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this
Midori
We both posted that toon…..
but first I e-mailed it all over!
By CJ
August 6, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
Yesterday, Jim Wooten said: “I’m betting that Vernon Jones ends up being the nominee.”
Today, Jim Wooten said: “…the Obama campaign determined that Jones would be a drag on their chances of putting Georgia in play — and got that word out…”
I can’t help but notice that Jim Wooten’s prognostications are nearly always wishful thinking and his theories about the party that he considers his opposition are based less on facts and more about falsehoods that he wants to promote (e.g. Georgia Democrats don’t think for themselves, but rely on their “Messiah” to do it for them).
Great job applying the right-wing narrative today, Jim. Two McCain action points for you.
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, Urinal BLAH,BLAH,BLAH, DimoKrats BLAH,BLAGH, BLAH, Bozos
YADA, YADA, YADA (insert mindless cut and paste)
Morons……
By CommunistAJC
August 6, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Uh oh. Looks like America is already tired of Obama.
Poll: Nearly half hearing too much about Obama
WASHINGTON - Barack Obama may be the fresh face in this year’s presidential election, but nearly half say they’re already tired of hearing about him, a poll says. ADVERTISEMENT
With Election Day still three months away, 48 percent said they’re hearing too much about the Democratic candidate, according to a poll released Wednesday by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center. Just 26 percent said the same about his Republican rival, John McCain.
Obama, the 47-year-old Illinois senator who would become the first black president, has dominated political news coverage much of the year. According to an ongoing Pew study, Obama has appeared in more news stories this year and more people say they have heard more about him than McCain, the longtime Arizona senator who also ran for president in 2000.
Two-thirds of Republicans and about half of independents said they’ve heard too much about Obama, as did a third of Democrats, a significant number.
At the same time, nearly four in 10 said they’ve been hearing too little about McCain — about four times the number who said so about Obama. About half of Republicans, four in 10 independents and even a quarter of Democrats said they’ve not heard enough about the GOP candidate.
The poll was conducted from Aug. 1-4 and involved telephone interviews with 1,004 adults. It had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
By Midori
August 6, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
LOL, Mrs. G.
I did too!!!!! :)
By MIndless Liberal O-Nation
August 6, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
Haha! It looks like the Atlanta Communist Manifesto’s queen pinko, Cynthia Tucker, has written a mindless emotional OpEd about the O-Team and how race is an issue. She blames McCain! Did she reference how it was Team-O that brought up race and that the Republicans may or would use race as an issue - which is entirely baseless? Did she mention how the Clintons played the race issue? Did she mention how Mrs. Ferraro said that The Messiah “wouldn’t be where he was if he were white”? And morons at the AJC wonder why their paper is going into the toilet.
The O-Team also has their panties in a wad over the negative reaction to that BRILLIANT comment about inflating tires to save our oil dependence. Like, this nation has NEVER heard that statement before - especially, like, 35 FREAKING YEARS AGO.
Mindless liberals. All dunces.
By Paul
August 6, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
@@ 12:08
Tease? Me?
Excellent questions. First, the Middle East. We should have military forces located in areas where they can quickly respond to defend America’s national interests. But what we’re seeing more and more worldwide is the substitute of military forces in situations where diplomatic or aid personnel would be more appropriate. SecDef Gates addressed this just a few weeks ago.
We have military forces in and around the Middle East in response to something they have that we need –oil. (Not just us, but the industrialized world – our allies. We take the lead. Let’s leave Israel out of this for now). Both candidates have expressed views (McCain first, Obama just the other day) that we should replace Middle East oil with domestic oil and with offsets in alternate energy.
Fast-forward to that time, where we don’t need Middle East oil. The rationale for our forces there becomes what? To protect our allies’ interests? If we do not need what they have, how would disruption there affect us any more than, say, a reduction of the cabbage crop in Botswana? Many of the surveys I’ve read recently of attitudes in the Middle East ties animosity towards us with our physical presence. This is different from the ideological basis of our fundamentalist enemies. But among the people in the street, our military presence seems to be the cause of ill will. So if we did not have such a presence there, would animosity decrease?
Military spending: with any enterprise so large, waste, redundancy and inefficiency is a given. So one could hold everything equal, get rid of some unnecessary, overlapping programs and announce a ‘cut.’ But that’s not what I mean. Looking still at the presence in Japan and Europe – if those military were not there, would we still need them in the total force? In other words, would we park them somewhere else, or could we reduce the size of the force? Remember, it costs the taxpayers about a hundred thousand dollars a year for each military person. And anytime you talk about deactivating a unit, it’s not just the unit. It’s the many, many people elsewhere who exist to support that unit.
We know many communities view local military bases or support activities as a jobs and money source. Economic impact is even one of the criteria used by the Base Realignment and Closure Commissions in determining which facilities to close. Eliminate that criteria and the reductions could be far greater.
Trying to answer your questions and keep it short as possible -
The conventional vs technological is a tough one, given we can face warfare that encompasses all. But I think it’s pretty clear we’re wedded to past thinking and practices – which is why we had little urban fighting capability initially in Iraq. Or just a handful of Predators for Afghanistan. Or why we think someone who flies a drone requires millions of dollars of training and huge pay bonuses. Or why we spend millions to keep parachutists when we have Ospreys. It’s a continuation of past practices that negatively impacts the changes in capabilities we need to make in light of technology and the world as it is and likely will be, not as it was fifty years ago.
By Ga Values
August 6, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Chambliss came to office, many say, by attacking another Democrat’s voting record. His campaign in 2002 aired television ads aimed at incumbent Max Cleland that included an image of Osama bin Laden while an announcer listed Cleland’s vote against an administration bill to prevent airport screeners from becoming unionized.
Democratic loyalists say Chambliss was questioning the patriotism of Cleland, who lost three limbs in a grenade explosion during the Vietnam War, in which Chambliss didn’t serve. Martin, like Cleland, is a Vietnam veteran.
Asked today whether the Cleland ad would be a model for his attacks on Martin, Chambliss said he wouldn’t hesitate to take on the new nominee.
“If we had not won, you wouldn’t have heard word one about any ad we ran,” Chambliss said. “… We will do it again in a way that is professional and in a way that we think that needs to be done to point out the weaknesses and the contradictions in my opponent’s statements and positions now and how he may have voted in the past.”
By ron
August 6, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
Mr.Devestator,I live in a Democrat stronghold and when I say I just couldn’t vote for Obama the remark is usually,”just can’t bring yourself to vote for a black man yet,can you”.This remark or something quite similar is common.These are primarily white Obama supporters I’m dealing with.I wonder just how much influence not wanting to appear racist is having on their decision.
You also,at any time,may kick your self in the brain for the presumptuous idiot remark.
By Concerned Citizen
August 6, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
By AmVet August 6, 2008 9:41 AM Yes, of course there is much black racism in this nation. And a huge percentage of blacks (in some cases) will vote black only. AND A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF WHITES WILL VOTE WHITE ONLY. Who thef&ck is even debating this?
The people who keep yammering on the race issue are the same people who, in their small minds, believe that those of a certain race, creed, color automatically possess intellectual or physical superiority, or that ‘certain people’ are more prone to greed/avarice, or automatically contribute more (or less) to society.
“A mind is a terrible thing to waste,” and I DID NOT coin that phrase.
By @@
August 6, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
Political Scapegoat:
Have I confused you? It’s understandable.
I asked for clarification from Paul after St. Pete a.k.a. PoliFore claimed that Paul’s point was lost in complexity.
Just wanted to make sure that PoliFore understood I wasn’t asking on his behalf.
Using the term chick to refer to a female clearly indicates that you are no magnet to the women anywhere. Where in the heck did that term originate anyway?
I’m in agreement with AJC/DNC Mgmt’s 12:39 (and no I’m not him either.) Blah Blahs appeal to those who would buy into an OBlahMa candidacy which I don’t. Leftist Blah Blahs lead us nowhere.
This is an interesting poll from the Pew Research Center.
Almost half polled say ‘enough already’ from Obama.
*Among the total sample, 26% say they’re hearing too much about Sen. Straight-Talk, 38% say there’s too little talk and 35% say it’s just right. Unsurprisingly, among GOP backers, 52% say they want more McCain; 37% say it’s the right amount and 10% say it’s enough already, uncle. Even Democrats are split – 35%say they’ve heard plenty but 38% say they’ve heard too little about McCain. And among independents, 41% say there’s been too little of McCain so far and 30% say there’s been just enough – compared to 28% who say there’s been too much.
38% of Democrats say they’ve heard too little from McCain? 41% among Independents say they’ve heard too little from McCain? So does that mean that 79% of polled voters want to hear more from McCain? Is that because OBlahMa hasn’t impressed them thus far?
Kinda interesting.
By Hot Stuff
August 6, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this
Jim Martin is incredibly liberal. Scarily so! He has no chance of beating Saxby… but I do love that Martin successfully finished off Vernon Jones!
ON another note, I’m currently debating on whether to just not eat in order to pay the gas bill this month – Swapping food for gas, now there’s an idea! I think I’ve hit on a new incentive program that the Democrats will soon be supporting in Congress.
By tippacanoe
August 6, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
So, Obama likes to take illegal foreign campaign money. And that goofball thinks he can run this nation? Or perhaps more accurately, the dumbmas-ses on the loony left in this nation think he can? Where the is the media on this story? Imagine if this happened to McCain from, say Israel. You think CNN would ignore it and not spend hours or days investigating it? <— that comment was just for the ignoranus Demcrap lib denialists out there who state that the media is not liberal/left biased.
JERUSALEM, Aug. 4 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — Palestinian brothers inside the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip are listed in government election filings as having donated $29,521.54 to Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign, according to WorldNetDaily’s Jerusalem bureau chief, Aaron Klein. The donations would violate election laws, including prohibitions on receiving donations from foreigners and guidelines against accepting more than $2,300 from one individual during a single election, Bob Biersack, a spokesman for the Federal Election Commission, said in response to a query. The contributions also raise numerous questions about the Obama campaign’s lax online donation form, which apparently allows for the possibility of foreign contributions.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this
AmVet,
Actually I fully expect the Rangers to fall back to their ways when they were 7-17 and you dropped in GWB’s lap. It’s amazing how spectacularly wrong you can be. That’s some power.
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I know of no one that calls GWB a fiscal conservative and Billy Jeff left us in a recession.
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copycat,
Your statement:
FACT: Blacks overwhelmingly support Obama.
would be just as true if you had written
FACT: Blacks overwhelmingly support Democrats
so what would your opinion line change to?
By Bud Wiser
August 6, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Why then, loony leftists, do blacks vote overwhelmingly for Obama? Let us look at some possible reasons….
a. He is an experienced, seasoned politician with a long record of staunch civil rights support…no………….
b. He is a Harvard educated very wealthy black man that can relate to the social struggles and difficulties many blacks have also experienced…..not that one either…….
c. He has promised the long awaited reparations for slavery…….no, hasn’t done that either…..
d. He will tax the hell out of the wealthy (the working portion of society) and redistribute their money to the non-working people what he can….likely….
e. He is black, or at least part black……the only reason they need to justify it, kind of like ‘O.J. justice, yes
f. He is a Democrat, and the massas at DNC have instructed them to do so…..*yes….
g. They like living in the squalor of the numerous ghettos like they have been doing ever since Lyndon Johnson’s ‘Great Society’, another empty promise to bind them further into the shackles of the Democrat Party…..undecided on this one…
It is obvious that there is no intellectual curiosity about the man they tout as The Messiah. If there were, they would flee the Democrats like rats fleeing a sinking ship.
The FACT that Nancy Pelosi blocked all attempts to have a vote on the drilling issue and sent Congress packing on a five week vacation is proof enough that they haven’t the ability to lead anyone anywhere. Over 70% of ALL Americans are in favor of drilling, but the high pitched shrill of the loony left continues to thwart America’s will. This is an issue that will not just ‘go away’ as the socialists hope it will. People buy gas every day, and they are fed up with Congress doing nothing.
Obama will pay for Pelosi and the loony Democrats’ stubbornness in the election. He will lose, pure and simple, because of the lack of action on energy. That alone is enough to toss him into the DNC ‘Ring of Losers’ with Gore and Kerry. The race stuff is all BS and noise because it does not affect America’s pocket book.
By GOPs got to go
August 6, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
All African American Bloggers,
Please except my personal apology for the blatant racism, and the other subtler versions of the same old malarkey, shown here by some white bloggers. Please try to excuse their ignorance, they were taught hatred from the cradle. That kind of thinking runs real deep. It is now such second nature they can not even begin to recognize how their statements are demeaning and stereotyping. Please know that not all white people were taught to say the “N” word from birth. Not all white people believe themselves superior for the lack of melanin in their skin tone. Not all white people are threatened by an African American who is more intelligent and educated than themselves. And last, not all white people immediately judge you by your skin tone. Again, please except my humble apology for the stupid comments here. Don’t stoop to their level and hate all white people.
By @@
August 6, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this
We should have military forces located in areas where they can quickly respond to defend America’s national interests.
For now it’s oil. What about future business interests in the area? Is that where “the mercenaries” step in? Western culture anywhere in that region would likely spark resistance.
I’ve been more than happy to support alternative fuels in the interest of national security. We need that security ASAP. Up until the other day, Obama’s allegiance was to the environmentalists and not national security. Also, he finally realized it was in his political interest. Too late and too revealing as far as I’m concerned.
Many people in the streets also fear Iranian influence. Are we to draw Iran’s fire and then leave them to Iran’s mercy? We’re already in the process of offering defense contracts whereby they can defend themselves in our absence. That, in and of itself, is risky.
There are those countries you mentioned who have had ample time to build their own defenses but still we’re there. I agree with you on that one. But! if we abandon the bases, do we not leave a failing economy which could easily breed the same disdain seen in the ME. Especially in light of their immigrant problem. Even the leftists agree that it’s lack of opportunity that fuels radicalism.
I most certainly agree with you regarding the delay in moving towards technological advances in modern warfare. I find it difficult to conceive that we will ever engage in conventional warfare again.
Did you receive anything from Stratfor regarding the carrot Germany has offered Iran in interest of the nuclear negotiations. If not, I’ll see if I can pull the strategic points bringing them over here.
By CommunistAJC
August 6, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
You might be a racist if….
1.If you think Obama’s the most liberal member of the senate you…may be a racist.
2.If you object to Obama raising your payroll, capital gains and estate taxes you…may be a racist.
3.If you’d prefer a president have at least some foreign policy experience you…may be a racist.
If you’re in favor of drilling for oil and building nuclear power plants you…may be a racist.
If you think “Vero Possemus” is Latin for “Massive Ego” you… may be a racist.
If you wonder why Obama was hanging around William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn you…may be a racist.
If your pastor is nothing like Rev. Wright or Father Pfleger you… may be a racist.
8.If you don’t want the majority of justices on the Supreme Court to be like Stephen Breyer you…may be a racist.
If you’re not impressed with Obama’s 100% NARAL rating you…may be a racist.
If you’re not sure whether Obama opposed or supported FISA reauthorization you…may be a racist.
If you don’t think America is a “downright mean” country you…may be a racist.
If you think Obama should’ve visited wounded troops at Ramstein and Landstuhl you…may be a racist.
If you think the surge is working and that’s a good thing you…may be a racist.
If you oppose racial preferences in employment, school admissions and contracting you…may be a racist.
If you think “we are the change we’ve been waiting for” is a line from a Monty Python skit you…may be a racist.
If you prefer that a president have a smidgen of executive experience you…may be a racist.
If you’re appalled that Obama voted against treating infants born after an abortion attempt the same medically as other infants born alive you…may be a racist.
If you were proud of your country even before Obama’s candidacy you…may be a racist.
If you don’t think American troops are just “air raiding villages” you…may be a racist.
If your grandmother isn’t a “typical white person” you…may be a racist.
If you don’t think rural, working class people are bitter and “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them” you…may be a racist.
If you’re not sure invading Pakistan is a particularly good idea—what with their nuclear weapons and all— you…may be a racist.
If you don’t want the president to meet without precondition with the leaders of state sponsors of terror you…may be a racist.
If you don’t care how Hollywood or the European elite think you should vote you…may be a racist.
By hillbilly ragger
August 6, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
By @@ at 11:13 AM - you write “I must say I seriously thought about voting for Vernon Jones but opted for the weaker candidate to go up against Chambliss in November.”
Really? You’d voted in the Democratic primary, originally? Because that’s the only way you could vote in the runoff. Unless you’d skipped the primary altogether. That’s how I read the rules, as laid out here, anyway.
This isn’t a “gotcha” question, I’m genuinely curious. Do you normally cross party lines to vote for a weaker Democratic candidate?
(I’ll admit to having crossed over to the GOP, once, but that was to vote against someone I found truly frightening.)
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
And now, in order to complete his hypocrisy trifecta, Al Gore may now be extending his excessive consumption to the water as well. In an amazing display of conspicuous consumption, even for Al Gore, his new 100-foot houseboat that docks at the Hurricane Marina in Smithville, Tennessee is creating a critical buzz among many of his former congressional constituents. Dubbed “Bio-Solar One,” which may reflect some latent Air Force One envy, Gore has proudly strutted the small-town dock claiming that his monstrous houseboat is environmentally friendly. (Only Al Gore would name his boat B.S. One and not get the joke. Or perhaps the joke is on us?)
By Rod
August 6, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
Jim I guess you write for controversy because blacks like whites don’t vote for someone only because of their color. Vernon voting for Bush was the reason I voted for Martin. Voting to make this country poorer everyday because of this crazy war isn’t something I can get behind. Notice McCain is running to the center on the war. Obama is running to the center on drilling. Which one is costing us more lives and money everyday?
BTW my dad, grandad and brother(until last yr) served in the military. My brother, an accountant, did his tour in Iraq and wasn’t going back again. He is a civilian now after 2 generations of career military with justified combat experience. Meaning wars that made sense!
By F. Hornblower
August 6, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
because of him producing gay children Dick Cheney is by default, at best, a Log Cabin Republican!
By @@
August 6, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
hillbilly ragger:
Yes, I voted in the primary. I often find myself playing the local election against the state election against the federal election.
Locally, I voted to eliminate the incompetent candidate. Nationally I voted for Hillary because if we were gonna lose (I don’t think we will now) I wanted an experienced alternative to Obama.
In Clayton County, we had a lot of candidates running for the same offices. The vote got terribly split. My initial choice didn’t make the cut for Sheriff. All my other choices made it to the run-offs and I supported them yet again.
I’ll have an opportunity to vote for a Republican Sheriff in November but I’m undecided. I may continue to support Kimbrough. A friend of mine who works with Kem at ACCG shared, with me, an incident where he (Kem) had applied a racial slur to white women. It concerned me. It centered around the Barbie Bandits. While he and I were of the same opinion, I would have found a way to share mine without the racial slur.
By BFKaJ
August 6, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Dear Shawn @ 10:08, great story, thanks.
Dear Paul @ 12:52, I respectfully disagree with a portion of your post: “Many of the surveys I’ve read recently of attitudes in the Middle East ties animosity towards us with our physical presence.” While I do not discount the possibility that “surveys” warn that our military presence adversely affects attitudes, I think any practical observation would conclude to the contrary. America’s total absence from that stage allowed our country’s image to be depicted falsely, suggesting that Hollywood morality was an accurate depiction of our culture. I think the actual presence of normal Americans, such as our noble military, has disabused Iraqis of the false image. America’s best ambassadors do not work for the state department.
Dear GA Values @ 12:52, “Democratic loyalists say Chambliss was questioning the patriotism of Cleland…” What say ye? I don’t particularly like Chambliss, but I allege defamation in your post. Any rational viewing of the commercial – available on Youtube – compels a different analysis. I regularly argue that democrats repeat a false allegation in an effort to manufacture an alternate reality. So I would respectfully ask your personal analysis of the commercial.
Dear got to go @ 1:19, typical leftist, only apologizing for the alleged stupid comments of others. We are used to pedantic deceptions from your ilk. I don’t doubt that you owe apologies for many sins, but isn’t it hypocritical for you to apologize on behalf of others, especially if others did not ask you to do so? Arrogance, thy name is “got to go.” You can regret the actions of others, but you are incapable of apologizing for them. Contrition is a personal act, and your malrepresentation is typically elitist.
Dear Communist AJC @ 1:27, pretty good, I’ll bet Foxworthy’s attorney will be calling for infringement.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
The nerve of some reporters! How dare they ask The One a pertinant question.
“Serve as his proxy”? Time was, reporters were paid to ask candidates tough questions. Ralston’s question is entirely legitimate, especially since Obama and the Democrats made Cheney’s energy policy a campaign issue in the first place. If Obama dislikes it so much, why did he vote for it — and why blame it on the one candidate in the race that actually voted against it?
It gets worse, this reporter even asked him if would hold his position on Yucca mountain.
SEN. OBAMA: John, don’t put words in my mouth or anticipate what I am going to do.* I’ve been opposed to Yucca Mountain from the start* so if the suggestion is that John McCain who is in favor of Yucca right now should get a pass on that.
He was opposed to telecom immunity at the start, supported public financing at the start, thought the surge would create more violence at the start, and so on, and so on. “Don’t anticipate what I am going to do?” No one can anticipate what he will do — that’s the problem.
By @@
August 6, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
Paul:
My 1:24 was in response to your 12:52.
IHB!
By hotlanta
August 6, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
The only votes I am interested in right now are which one of those phune, chocolate honies Joshua or Twitch gonna “So You Can Dance” tomorrow night.
By hotlanta
August 6, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
The only votes I am interested in right now are which one of those phune, chocolate honies Joshua or Twitch gonna “So You Can Dance” tomorrow night.
By GOPs got to go
August 6, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
Budweiser, This is the sort of ignorant diatribe that you are constantly posting:
“So the slaves will vote the blood and not the man, a man who is elitist and socialist by his very nature, and won’t lift a finger if elected to help his ‘brothers and sisters.’
“I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; blacks are too stupid not to vote Obama, because of his color.”
How can you not see how racist you sound with these statements? Do you go around angry all the time because “Blacks” don’t know their place any more? How dare they have a better job than me, I’m white? How dare they go to Harvard, I did not go to college, and I’m white? How dare they buy a BMW, I can’t and I’m white? That uppity Nigra has gone and married a purty white girl, and I got a ugly fatty, and I’m white! What has this world dun gone to when a good old boy redneck like me has to sit back and watch some Nigra think he has a chance at becoming my President? And I’m white!!!! Lord please smite them down or give me more guns to getter dun if you don’t.
Guess what dude? You are just as pathetic as you seem, and trying to pretend you are better than blacks, because you need to be better than someone, is all you are about.
By BS detector
August 6, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Jeff Foxworthy will not sue for infringement but Peter Kirsanow of the National Review might.
CommunistAJC’s post @ 1:27 is a rip-off and he makes no attempt to show that he ripped it off, either by linking to it or with italics, nor did he cite the source.
Very unethical.
By @@
August 6, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this
I’m gonna ride on the coattails of RW’s 2:07.
Open Letter To Obama The Nation: There Have Been Troubling Signs That You Are Moving Away From Core Commitments
To me ^^^ that totally discredits any liberal who professes to stand in opposition to politics as usual. They’re going to support OBlahMa in HOPE that they can CHANGE him.
Engaging in risky business, they are. OBlahMa is clearly out for OBlahMa. The duped left is just a means to his end.
By GOPs got to go
August 6, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
BFK,
My apology stands. you embarrass me. By the way FU
By St. Pete
August 6, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
The olympics will be a nice diversion from the campaign. I look forward to the woman’s gymnastics, as always, the queen of all sporting events.
It matters. The woman’s gymnastic thing. It’s a throwback to female icon worship. It’s like woman’s skating over mens skating. The women matter more. I dont know why.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
Look at the responses to the Paris Hilton faux ad.
UPDATE: Obama spokesman Bill Burton reacts: “Whatever.”
UPDATE: McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds emails: “It sounds like Paris Hilton supports John McCain’s ‘all of the above’ approach to America’s energy crisis - including both alternatives and drilling. Paris Hilton might not be as big a celebrity as Barack Obama, but she obviously has a better energy plan.”
from Politico
By A look back at Superbowl 42
August 6, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
Ode to Eli
It doesn’t take much to make me happy. When you stay hungry, everything tastes good. But I do need a quarterback.
When I first saw Eli Manning I was suprised. Peyton has a brother in the NFL? I gave up on him many times. (Flashes of brilliance, too many interceptions). But he never gave up on me and I said yes under an unretracted roof in Phoenix last Superbowl sunday.
Outlined against a blue grey curtain of certain and sudden death, Eli slipped the surly grasp of the blitz. He wheeled and flung and did a hundred things I’ve only dreamed of. His oval soared long and delirious over tangled arms and teeth clenched in hate. Once more into the breech he joined the tumbling mirth and offered a wounded desperation that a wide-out held on to like it was the Lombardi Trophy.
The next thing you know, Burress fakes the post, and son I got High Fives way down low, low, low…..
No, it doesn’t take much to make me happy. Not much at all.
By BFKaJ
August 6, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Dear got to go @ 2:28, one can only embarrass oneself. Elitist.
By Bad S Mitten
August 6, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
I think the following confirms that even McCain has advisers smart enough to warn him not to go against science. It takes a real loser to mock reality:
When asked about the air-pressure issue during an appearance Tuesday night, McCain said: “I agree with the American Automobile Association. We should all inflate our tires.” Obama had noted that keeping tires inflated and cars tuned was endorsed by both NASCAR and AAA and should be part of any comprehensive plan to reduce reliance on imported oil.
By Heeso
August 6, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
The duped left is just a means to his end.
I couldn’t have said it better myself @@. Their incessant fawning over a mortal man is a real turnoff to anyone with an Independent’s mind.
By Copyleft
August 6, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
RW: Very good! You spotted what Bud Wiser, in his ignorance, could not. Blacks overwhelmingly vote Democratic because poor people tend to vote Democratic… and minorities are heavily concentrated in the poorest segment of American society.
Poor people vote Democratic, incidentally, because the GOP’s policies favor the rich. Not too surprising, really. Nothing directly racial about it.
By GOPs got to go
August 6, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
If being called an Elitist means I feel superior to a knuckle dragging, use to wear a white sheet EEDIOT then I gladly wear that banner.
By @@
August 6, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
Bad S. Mitten:
On the inflated tires promo. Let’s just say that OBlahMa has his own special way of inflating the benefits.
Heeso:
I really hadn’t thought of it that way but I think you’re right. It’s Ludacris.
By Steve
August 6, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
I can’t wait until the time comes for you Democrat Obama lovers to have to eat your vote and every comment praising this worthless candidate. But then again i suppose you will still blame Bush instead of your own ignorance.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
copycat,
In all of that you failed to answer the question of what you would then change the opinion line to.
When do you suppose the poor are going to start figuring out that Democrat policies give them just enough to keep them poor? Johnson left office in January of 69, so I guess 40 years hasn’t been long enough.
When they start figuring out that Republican policies give them a hand up instead of a handout you’re going see real change instead of that more of the same snake oil Barry is selling.
Of course first Republicans have to go back to being Republicans.
By GMAN
August 6, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Poor Bud Wiser. I see you are one of those that Takes Pride in being ignorant!
By CommunistAJC
August 6, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
BS detector, Is that all you have? You’re saying that I am taking credit for someone else’s work? When did I claim that those jokes were mine? Answer: NEVER! I saw something funny and true about the Obama Hussein clowns and posted it. End of story. Now please go back to your pizza delivery job.
By Timus
August 6, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
When it came out that Jones voted for Bush TWICE……it was a wrap!! Now you have to question his judgment.
By Pyg In Me
August 6, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
BFKaJ @ 2:36,
If you didn’t have the outward appearance of H. floresiensis, then I could agree with your statement (below). Now, quit embarrassing all the little people of the world.
August 6, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Dear got to go @ 2:28, one can only embarrass oneself. Elitist.
By Bad Brad
August 6, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
What? Your mama’s name is Georgia? Well, yeah she’s in play. When I’m on the hunt for some lovin’, all y’all’s mamas are in play.
By Plae G. Wrist
August 6, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
“Now please go back to your pizza delivery job.”
Stop, thief! I used that retort a month ago. Give it back immediately or I’ll be forced to call the authorities.
Or not. You know, whatever.
By Reality
August 6, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
Bad S Mitten, yes inflating your tires and keeping it clean can save gas mileage, that is science. But once agian liberal trash not stating the whole facts, Obama thinks that will solve the energy crisis. Man you forgot that part, so Mcain understands science, but he did not say that would solve the energy crisis. These liberals and thier misrepresenting facts and figures. At least use the truth if you want to bash someone.
By @@
August 6, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
Copyleft:
Poor has been redefined.
For most Americans, the word “poverty” suggests destitution: an inability to provide a family with nutritious food, clothing, and reasonable shelter. But only a small number of the 35 million persons classified as “poor” by the Census Bureau fit that description. While real material hardship certainly does occur, it is limited in scope and severity. Most of America’s “poor” live in material conditions that would be judged as comfortable or well-off just a few generations ago.
The following are facts about persons defined as “poor” by the Census Bureau, taken from various government reports:
* Forty-six percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio. * Seventy-six percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, 30 years ago, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning. * Only 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. More than two-thirds have more than two rooms per person. * The average poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.) * Nearly three-quarters of poor households own a car; 30 percent own two or more cars. * Ninety-seven percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions. * Seventy-eight percent have a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception. * Seventy-three percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and a third have an automatic dishwasher.That’s a far cry from the shanty towns of old. They’re to be commended for having accomplished as much.
I grew up with far less than ^^^ that.
O-:MG, I was poor and nobody told me!
I watched a news report about community gardens springing up on vacant lots in L.A. The rising cost in food had encouraged the program. I’ve always been a big advocate of community gardens. The gardens were prepped and planted to well-intentioned civic organizations. They interviewed a woman and her grandson. I’ll paraphrase…..
“Gas is high. I have to choose between meat or vegetables for dinner. Can’t have both. This garden allows me to do that.” She walks to the car to put her food baskets into what appeared to be a newer model HUGE SUV - looked like an Infinity to me.
There probably are people who could benefit from the community gardens but I’m thinking she wasn’t one of them. That is theft by taking from the truly impoverished.
By Spike
August 6, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
Are ANY of you increasingly humiliated, disillusioned, deeply mistaken Bushdrunk voters EVER gonna take responsibility for the violent error of your ways?? Will you ever take steps, both large and small, to try to make amends for shoving Dumbya down the throat of the world, for your tiny but oh so poisonous contribution to the worst and most demeaning eight years in modern American history??
By Paul
August 6, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
@@ 1:24
[[For now it’s oil. What about future business interests in the area?]]
Are you suggesting it’s the responsibility of the US government, using the military, to ‘defend’ US corporate interests in a country? I think the past is pretty clear – staying with the Middle East – western business interests (oil) were ‘nationalized’ or terms were arbitrarily changed to the companies’ detriment, with no resultant military action.
The rest of your post, I wasn’t speaking five years out. Possibly not ten. It was at the point at which we did not have a critical reliance on their oil. At that point, I would question the necessity for a military presence.
No, I didn’t receive the article you referenced – then again, that comes to another account I maintain for such purposes and I’m not diligent in perusing it. I’d appreciate hearing what it has to say.
RW-(the original) 1:37
One can’t, as they say, make this stuff up.
Isn’t this the same, conceptually, as the fundamentalist/evangelical ministers who preach morality while having affairs? Seems to me Gore’s in the same category.
BFKaJ 2:05
My source for thinking about that (attitudes shaped by US presence) was a recent interview I saw with Michael Scheuer, former head analyst of the CIA’s bin Laden unit and a critic of much current US policy in the Middle East.
I do agree about the portrayal of America through media – the Hollywood syndrome. Ralph Peters wrote a book in the late 90s detailing the problems America would face in the Middle East through the pervasive presence of American “culture” – absent any physical counterweight, as you pointed out . He also tied it into @@’s point about unemployment and rising expectations and a sense of entitlement without going through the work or social changes to obtain it. America’s wealthy, I’m not, I want it, I’m mad at America.
RW-(the original) 2:07
Looks like a lot can happen before Nov 7. Those guys writing position papers for the Obama campaign must be going nuts –
Out for a while -
By BFKaJ
August 6, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
Surely this 3,500-word essay is the funniest slam yet on poor Chauncey: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121736628530894671.html?mod=opinionjournalfederation
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
Will the MSM “news” blackout continue?
By @@
August 6, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
The gardens were prepped and planted BY well-intentioned civic organizations.
I rally rally do HB.
By BFKaJ
August 6, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this
Dear Mitten @ 2:37, why did you omit the rest of McCain’s statement, in which he mocked the suggestion that merely inflating tires and tuning cars would be sufficient to alleviate American pain at the pump? You are not trying to deceive us, are you?
By Frederick Douglass
August 6, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
I’m so sick of hearing about “PLAYING THE RACE CARD” from people whose greatest strife is when there’s no milk for their Cheerios. I’m an old black man, my race card has a hangman’s noose on it!
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
Limbaugh got me to thinking about this whole tire pressure nonsense:
How many cars out there have improperly inflated tires? I know mine aren’t, not because I want to “save fuel” but instead because I do not want to buy a new set of tires all the time, as under or over inflated tires wear faster.
Does not everyone know this already? How often do the average Americans check things like oil, filter and inflation?
Tell me, does this not sound like a dhimwit issue, does the average moron even know how to check tire inflation?
Knowing Conservatives and how they do not rely on some mindless government agency to tend to the mundane and routine issues of their lives for them, including servicing their automobiles, is this not a simpleton dimwitocrat issue, driving around on improperly inflated tires, totally oblivious of the fact?
Pinko energy hogs.
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McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds emails: “It sounds like Paris Hilton supports John McCain’s ‘all of the above’ approach to America’s energy crisis - including both alternatives and drilling. Paris Hilton might not be as big a celebrity as Barack Obama, but she obviously has a better energy plan.”
Bwa.
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The Lord High Dimwit, Thee Most Splendid, kkkampaign put words in McBushie’s mouth and now the little toadies are free to run with the lie:
What’s wrong with that? Forgive me for pointing this out to the history-challenged, but that is verifiably true. Obama, born to a father from Kenya and a mother from Kansas, doesn’t look like George Washington or Ben Franklin or Abraham Lincoln. Indeed, race (Obama’s, that is) is a central fact of this campaign, and it’s absurd to pretend otherwise.-Queen Pinko, Urinal/DNC
Got that America, you people are Neanderthal bigots who cannot rise above the race issue.
Somehow, I doubt it’s as simple as that. Many psychologists believe that recognition of “the other” —- those with obvious differences in skin color or hair texture or language —- is deeply embedded in human beings, a primal instinct.
See what I mean about liberal projection?
This bigot, who so obviously hates white people and cannot let go of her own inbred racism, is projecting her faults on you and scolding you for them.
Insane, ain’t it?
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Two former CIA officers denied that they or the spy agency faked an Iraqi intelligence document purporting to link Saddam Hussein with 9/11 bomber Mohammed Atta, as they are quoted as saying in a new book. The White House issued the statement on behalf of the former officials, Robert Richer and John Maguire, after a day of adamant denials from the CIA and Bush administration about the claim, made in “The Way of the World,” a book by Washington-based journalist Ron Suskind. Suskind claims the White House concocted the fake letter, meant to come from Tahir Jalil Habbush al-Tikriti, director of Iraqi intelligence under Saddam, in the fall of 2003 to bolster its case for the invasion earlier that year as it was becoming clear that there were no weapons of mass destruction to be found in Iraq.-Urinal/Jihad
When the libs go to such great lengths^^ to twist and spin they’re way around an issue, plus taking into account how they lie with such ease, it looks to me like Saddam may have been sponsoring POS Atta.
We shall see.
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I thought the surge “didn’t work?”
Iraq urged to step up amid budget surplus-Urinal/PMS
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Check it out, if the libs are against all forms of energy production except for the Sun, even they know whining and moaning will not extinguish the Sun, is their real target the Economy of the United States?
Even if no new reactors are built, getting rid of the country’s nuclear waste will cost $96.2 billion and require a major expansion of the planned Yucca Mountain nuclear waste in Nevada beyond limits imposed by Congress, blah, blah, blah-Urinal/Jihad
Think of all the evidence, propaganda kkkampaigns talking down the economy, these socialist POS are against drilling/ gas price relief, the hate oil, gas, nukleer, coal, and anything else that has made us wealthy and prosperous.
They want to shut this country down, make you and everyone else dependent upon them and their every Royal Whim, regulate all economic activity, undercut the very essence of our freedoms.
If France is 80% nuclear energy and they are not a smoldering ruins because of it, what are the libs whining about?
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The Urinal Staff has completely taken over the Vent section and turned into a Lord High Dimwit, Thee Most Magnificent, propaganda rag:
No matter what concerns I have about him, I will have to vote for Obama, just to get rid of a Republican administration.
After all the vicious things that they said about Max Cleland, Republicans are now getting upset when somebody questions McCain’s qualifications. What hypocrites!
So we should ignore those secular, weak-willed Europeans? Guess that leaves you and those strong-willed Islamists to rule the world.
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Now this: Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr plans to announce Friday that he will disarm his Mahdi Army, which was raining mortars on Baghdad’s Green Zone as recently as April. Coupled with the near-total defeat of al Qaeda in Iraq, this means the U.S. no longer faces any significant organized military foe in the country. It also marks a major setback for Iran, which had used the Mahdi Army as one of its primary vehicles for extending its influence in Iraq.
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An analysis of campaign finance records shows that about two-thirds of Lord High Dimwit’s, Thee Most Finest, bundlers are concentrated in four major industries: law, securities and investments, real estate and entertainment. Lawyers make up the largest group at about 130, with many working for firms that also have lobbying arms. At least 100 Obama bundlers are top executives or brokers from investment businesses - nearly two dozen work for financial titans like Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs and Citigroup. About 40 others come from the real-estate industry.
Aahhh, yes, change that we can count on.
By ATLborn
August 6, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
You’re kidding, right Jim?!
There was no big voter shift like you claim. Voter turn-out rates for run-off elections are always horrible and especially amongst black voters traditionally. Not surprising at all that Vernon’s base didn’t turn out to vote for him and Jim had a much better showing.
Shoot, Jim would have won the thing outright had it been him and Vernon in a head to head matchup last month.
Martin was the much better candidate anyway. Vernon is a joke.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
Paul,
There are supposed to be biodiesel engines although you can’t buy any biodiesel on that lake so I guess he’ll have it sent in by electric tanker. It’s also supposed to have been solar powered but the solar panels haven’t been installed yet. Of course he also “greened” up his mansion and now it uses more electricity than it did before.
I guess he’ll tell us next that the jet ski strapped to the back runs on Evian.
Reality,
What Obumbler actually said was that keeping our tires inflated and engines tuned would provide for enough savings of oil to offset the entire amount that “they” were talking about drilling for. Maybe the “they” was Nancy Pelosi and harry Reid.
By Bad S Mitten
August 6, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
By @@ at 2:52 PM,
I think McCain let the air out of his own inflated appendage. He didn’t need any help from Obama. McCain just needs to hire folks that are more qualified to deliver his special message. Too bad he dissed Paris. They could have trolloped across the countryside together spreading that Republican mantra — knee deep, at least. Maybe even throw in a wet T-shirt contest or two along the way at a few biker’s rallies for a little extra appeal.
By Reality @ 3:18 PM,
If you read about his conversations on the topic, then you would know that Obama was taken out of context. He did not claim that inflating tires and maintaining vehicles would solve any energy crisis. Read my comments from yesterday about the potential savings by inflating tires and the comparison to the theoretical maximum amount of oil that could be pumped out by the Thunder Horse platform in the Gulf of Mexico. That’s the sort of comparison that Obama was alluding to and it has a basis in fact — not the fantasy that some people would have you believe.
By Midori
August 6, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
and now Andy is quoting Rush.
You can’t make this stuff up, folks.
Have you hugged your mother, er, pill today?
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
Don’t look now, but Obambi has doubled down on his inflate your tires gaffe
Two points: First, even if Obama’s “3 to 4 percent” claim about tire inflation were true, it would not validate his original assertion that proper inflation would equal “all the oil that they’re talking about getting off drilling.” That assertion was, and remains, false.
Second, Obama’s claim that “every expert” says that tire inflation would “reduce our oil consumption by 3 to 4 percent” is ridiculous. No expert says any such thing. What experts do say is that properly inflated tires can improve gas mileage by approximately 3 percent compared to grossly underinflated tires. But since most people know this and inflate their tires, the actual potential savings is some much smaller amount. Moreover, the U.S. consumes around 20.7 million barrels of petroleum per day. Only about 9.3 million barrels per day are used in motor vehicles. So a 3 percent improvement in automobile mileage would correspond, at best, to a 1.3 percent reduction in total oil consumption.
Barack Obama’s ignorance on the subject of energy is remarkable.
Well of course it is, have I mentioned he’s a dunce?
For those of you spinning that he didn’t say what he said, I’ll let Barry speak for me.
By Midori
August 6, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this
Congratulations John and Cindy McCain!!
I didn’t even know she was preggers!!!
By @@
August 6, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
I see Paul’s left. Upon your return…..
The German Federal Office for Economics and Export Control recently approved a deal that could lead to the construction of three liquefied natural gas (LNG) facilities in southern Iran. The office said the deal would not violate economic sanctions against Iran because the project would be assembled in Germany and then shipped to Iran. Regardless of the details, the LNG deal is a message from Germany — and by extension, the United States — that Iran has much to gain by cooperating in current talks with the West over Tehran’s nuclear ambitions and Iraq.
The natural gas will then be shipped to Europe. Kinda like playing Russia against Iran.
It benefits Germany because Putin is forever threatening to witthold his uhmmmm GAS. Heck, Iran has trouble getting anyone else to deal with ‘em due to risk but Europe is also at risk of Iran doing the same as Putin but they can’t develop their own gas fields.
No guarantees mind you. The fact that the cost of the project is so low - $155 million - when most LNG plants cost at the very least $500 million illustrates that Germany is slowly showing Iran a piece of the carrot, but keeping the rest contingent on further positive results from the Iranian-U.S. negotiations.
And no Paul, I wasn’t suggesting the military serve as protectors of American corporations. I specifically asked about “personal security outfits” - the ones who have brought so much controversy in Iraq. The Saudis have to bring in American workers ‘cause their society has been bought and paid to be lazy and content. They provide secured areas for American workers but what if………?
You’re attempt to insult me brought to mind Hugo’s recent moves. Hugo Chavez, the darling of the left……a revolutionary thinker. I always thought of him as a buffoon - a dictator in the making. Well anyhoo……..
On his weekly television show Aug. 3, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez defended his decision to pass 26 new laws by decree — including one that will integrate his militias into the military. The move is an attempt to shore up his control over the country in the face of rising inflation, slackening national income and faltering party unity.
Rising inflation, slackening national income and faltering party unity? Sounds familiar don’t it? Hugo, the compassionate socialist’s solution? Beef up the military with his militias just in case he falls out of favor with his poor constituents.
Leftists should never say they haven’t been forwarned about the dangers of a socialist government. It’s just one step away from, ALL TOGETHER NOW!
COMMUNISM.
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
By Midori August 6, 2008 3:54 PM and now Andy is quoting Rush.
I r o Dim: Quoting Rush and having him cause me to think about something are two entirely different things, but since you are unable to do the latter, I felt that I should point this out for you, so maybe you wouldn’t be so confused.
If that is even possible.
By Midori
August 6, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this
Ah, Powerline — the blog for Idiots
By The Truth Hurts
August 6, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
Democratsa are losers and the biggest is Obama Osama…..they dont have a chance in hell of winning hewre!! We dont want a bunch of brainless liberals in this state….MCCAIN alll the way!!!
By Midori
August 6, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Y-D-N-a:
you get upset with me because you admit that you take advice from a self admitted peophile pill popper??????
are you a hate-a, yDnA?
we all know Rush is a playa!!! anyone who goes through wives like he does has to be!!!
wonder if any of them got his stash as part of the divorce settlement???
By The Truth Hurts
August 6, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Democratsa are losers and the biggest is Obama Osama…..only way he can win is to keep playing the race card they dont have a chance in hell of winning hewre!! We dont want a bunch of brainless race baitingliberals in this state….MCCAIN alll the way!!!
By The Truth Hurts
August 6, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Democratsa are losers and the biggest is Obama Osama…..only way he can win is to keep playing the race card they dont have a chance in hell of winning hewre!! We dont want a bunch of brainless race baitingliberals in this state….MCCAIN alll the way!!!
By The Truth Hurts
August 6, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
Democratsa are losers and the biggest is Obama Osama…..only way he can win is to keep playing the race card they dont have a chance in hell of winning hewre!! We dont want a bunch of brainless race baitingliberals in this state….MCCAIN alll the way!!!
By The Truth Hurts
August 6, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
Democratsa are losers and the biggest is Obama Osama…..only way he can win is to keep playing the race card they dont have a chance in hell of winning hewre!! We dont want a bunch of brainless race baitingliberals in this state….MCCAIN alll the way!!!
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
By Midori August 6, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this Ah, Powerline — the blog for Idiots
When you can’t dispute the facts just throw up a link to the Huff and puff. Brilliant!
How much you want to bet if we properly inflated Midori’s empty head we could save as much energy as Nancy and Harry are talking about drilling.
By @@
August 6, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this
Actually I do know how to gauge the pressure in my tires. Inside the door there will be a little PSI #. Insert the tire gauge into the valve and voila……you can either add or subtract to the maximum pressure required.
The other morons (self-deprecating humor, no thanks to OBlahMa) who know how to check for tire inflation would be those lowly mechanics who OBlahMa discounts daily. I think he calls them clingers.
I’ll never forget a doctor friend of ours who sold us an almost new lawnmower for $50.00. He didn’t know what was wrong with it. It was out of gas. Nice fella though. Too embarrassed to take it back with a refund. “I should pay for my own stupidity” said he.
By @@
August 6, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
Y-D-N-a?????
Doesn’t have quite the same impact Midori! Check this out s-l-o-w-l-y:
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Dim.
By Taxpayer
August 6, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this
I just can’t imagine a better endorsement for Obama than the likes of RW, Andy, and BFK (to name a few). The fact that these guys are struggling with every gasping breath to think of things to say against Obama, true or not, really says it all. These losers cannot stand the thought of voting for the Republican party candidate that they selected much less talk him and sell him to other voters. Instead, they prefer to spread their hatred of Obama. That tells me all I ever need to know about the new-age Republicans. I want no part of them and their venom.
By AmVet
August 6, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
The Slap the High Yellow Lib Fest continues at a breakneck pace, no?
I am not one to try and take away one of your VERY few remaining idle pleasures, but again, my non-conservative conservative f(r)iends, it matters not.
For the umpteenth time this summer I say, those of you neo-cons on the dispirited right wing have already LOST.
In embarrassing fashion.
The White House, yet more seats in Congress, more state reps and senators and more governors.
Wake up and smell the corruption…
Instead of letting airhead personalities “educate” you and instead of incessantly hammering the young mulatto, you should be trying to sell off the putrid remnants of this imploding GOP wholesale and start anew. (Like you could find a buyer. Perhaps you could “donate” parts of it to the Taliban!)
Gawd knows the nation needs a sane, viable Republican Party again…
By @@
August 6, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
Separate post. Don’t wanna overload Midori.
Did ‘ya get it?
By Katie
August 6, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this
This is a half-cocked theory if I ever heard one. I voted in the primary for Rand Knight because he was my candidate of choice. I voted for Jim Martin in the run-off because there is no way in hell I would be satisfied with Vernon Jones being the Democratic candidate for one of our senate seats. Obama’s campeign had nothing to do with this race - it just happened that all of the Dems who voted for one of the other candidates (Dale Cardwell, Josh Lanier, etc) wanted to see Jim Martin run against Saxby.
By mjaay
August 6, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
Vernon Jones is an idiot. “Word” didn’t get out. Jones kept calling my home phone, sounding like an idiot on that recording…and that AWFUL flyer he sent out with the photoshopped image of Obama on it. And those rape charges a while back…He’s an idiot.
By Midori
August 6, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
Taxpayer,
talking about nailing it!!!
truer words were never spoken, er, typed. :)
By Eeeeeeek
August 6, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
By @@ August 6, 2008 4:33 PM I’ll never forget a doctor friend of ours who sold us an almost new lawnmower for $50.00. He didn’t know what was wrong with it. It was out of gas. Nice fella though. Too embarrassed to take it back with a refund. “I should pay for my own stupidity” said he.
Now Ain’t She Smart???? Gotta throw out “A doctor friend of mine,” we all have met those through our work relationships. You go girlie……
By Scoreboard
August 6, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
WOW……98 DEGREES today. And lots o smog.
Global warming is real folks. Its time to act.
By Get Real
August 6, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this
**By Steve
August 6, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
I can’t wait until the time comes for you Democrat Obama lovers to have to eat your vote and every comment praising this worthless candidate.**
I hope you’re eating crow for those two Bush votes!!!!!
By Whatever
August 6, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this
The Truth Hurts @ 4:27, 4:27, 4:29, 4:29, that Georgia education is really at work. Since all your Republicans think Democrats are fawning over Obama, and will regret their vote come November; how are those two Bush votes you casted working out?
By Concerned Citizen
August 6, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this
August 6, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this @@ 1:24 [[For now it’s oil. What about future business interests in the area?]] Are you suggesting it’s the responsibility of the US government, using the military, to ‘defend’ US corporate interests in a country? I think the past is pretty clear –
Soooo, what will most benefit the good ole USA? I’m a great defender of democracy….could write a book in fact…may do so. If we need the oil (of course we do), just say so! Ohmygosh maybe not (say so), some would not be inclined to dedicate their lives……
By Political Foreskin
August 6, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
RW always posts last year’s story. He’s strictly yesterday’s papers and always light years behind the curve.
Ann coulter just did a fox interview. How does anyone buy her books? Even a 35% bush base makes up millions of morons, so I guess the market is there.
I’m going to start posting for the right, cause they buy anything that comes down the pike.
I’m going to write a book entitled, “Democrats aren’t Entitled”. It will sell millions just on the title, that’s how easily punked the Right is.
Thanx for the idea, RW. Lets see, I’ll need to make sandwiches….
4 Free Government Cheese call the 1-800 #
Notice how they wont allow McCain to take any more questions after the viagra/birthcontrol fiasco?
The deer in headlights will never go away. Obama needs to run that video often. Show an ad where Obama adresses an issue, and then cut to the 1000 mile stare of McCain, then back to Obama offering sensible ideas, then cut to McCain’s deer in headlights consternation and confusion.
The real McCain aint even there, man.
Obama 08: America takes over.
By AmVet
August 6, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
These losers cannot stand the thought of voting for the Republican party candidate that they selected much less talk him and sell him to other voters.
Taxpayer, tis true these neo-cons despise McCain.
He’s reasonable and no ideologue. Ergo NOT one of them.
And thus these beunglers have already lost, no matter who wins the White House in November.
And make NO mistake about it, the regular five or six “conservative” lame brains here assuredly did NOT vote for him.
They all positively drooled over the likes of Large and Lazy Fred, 9/11 Rudy, Flat-earth Sam and Flip-flopping Lurch.
It was the zillions of disgusted and fed up Republican voters, as well as moderates, independents and REAL conservatives who sent those pathetic BushCo Lites all packing.
And we are all still enjoying the h&ll out of it…
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this
I r o Dim: Hey, you got a point, Limbaugh goes through wives at about the same pace as Bandaid Kerry does, except Limbaugh makes his own millions.
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Score Bored: Imagine that, 95 degrees in August, why, I’ll bet that is a first:
Record High For 8/6/08: 100° in 1980
Duh.
By I'm sooo Smart
August 6, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this
By @@ August 6, 2008 2:00 PMjjh hillbilly ragger: Yes, I voted in the primary. I often find myself playing the local election against the state election against the federal election. Locally, I voted to eliminate the incompetent candidate. Nationally I voted for Hillary because if we were gonna lose (I don’t think we will now) I wanted an experienced alternative to Obama.
Now ain’t I smart?????? Loook back about 2 yrs ago and you will see how smaaaaart I am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By GOOD NEWS
August 6, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this
For all those shocked and dismayed by the sudden downturn in the quality of this blog I have some excellent news!
Its been 2 weeks
Jay Bookman should be back tomorrow and with him his crazy band of bloggers. Good By AJC/DNC Mgt! So Long Bud Wiser! Don’t let the door hit you in the azz RW. See ya later Bosch. Later Paul! Asta Midori!
Hey we may still have to put up with bfka but hey! The Lucko losers are outta here! So what.
Hip-hip- HORRAY
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this
I don’t know about the rest of these folks you’re hectoring with the question of the 2 Bush votes, but considering the alternatives were Gore and later Kerry I think mine worked out as well as was possible. What I wondered is why a true fiscal conservative didn’t challenge Bush in the primaries in 2004.
By @@
August 6, 2008 5:40 PM | Link to this
Damn! Hugo Chavez has successfully eliminated all 300 opponents from the November ballot through a court ruling.
Didn’t Obama do the same thing in Illinois?
Why yes he did.
Hmmmmmmmmm
By V-Dog 85
August 6, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this
@@,
Congratulations to you Clayton voters ib ridding yourselves of the Demented Dwarf!
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
For you baseball fans on here Jeff Karstens of the Pirates just lost a perfect game bid with two outs in the 8th.
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
By GOOD NEWS August 6, 2008 5:34 PM Jay Bookman should be back tomorrow and with him his crazy band of bloggers. Good By AJC/DNC Mgt
Excellent point, toady, I would even suggest that Wooten join the rest of us and leave this blog to you dimwits.
By @@
August 6, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this
Gotta throw out “A doctor friend of mine,” we all have met those through our work relationships. You go girlie.
Didn’t meet him at work. He was a neighbor. We’re still good friends. He received his training in the military. Both lived in a middle-class neighborhood. He’s moved up and I moved out.
Gotta have my space - my vegetable gardens. You know, the simple things in life.
By Paul
August 6, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC Management 3:39
Been wondering about the strain on the electric grid all these plug-in electric cars are going to have. Seems to me we’ll need more electric capacity – maybe along the lines of 45 nuke plants. Heard anything about how advocates for a fleet of electric car plan on recharging them?
Midori 4:01
Somehow, I think if some on the Right had made a crack about Michelle Obama being pregnant and likening it so some forms of animal life you’d be going bonkers –
@@ 4:12
Remember my comments about French and German contracts with Iraq before the war, in violation of UN sanctions, and how you can’t trust those dirty European capitalists?
I get a kick out of this one, though. Russia helps finance Iran’s nuke program. And sells them the high-tech weaponry to defend their facilities. Which are peaceful facilities. Then Germany enters the picture as you described. This is great. We’ll see, though, if economic benefit to the nation overcomes the ideologues. Given the unemployment and inflation in Iran, we’ll see if the discontent leads to a change in leadership and then more cooperation with Germany.
Thanks for the clarification on the personal security outfits. Historically, American companies have taken a long-term view and rather rolled with it. Look at our situation with Venezuela. I like the way you distinguish between the ‘outfits’ protecting the business interests (problematic on how that would even be done) and protecting the workers. But since we don’t have forces in Saudi, even if we did their employment would be a problem. Their historical role has been to evacuate Americans – not defend the perimeter on a daily basis. If it gets to that point Saudi Arabia’s going down the tubes anyway –
No attempt to insult. It was rather an incredulous question. Along the lines of “am I hearing what I think I’m hearing? Clarify, please.”
By AmVet
August 6, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this
WOWZERS, RW!
It would be interesting to see how often/seldom in MLB history someone has gotten through eight and two thirds of perfect ball and to lose it with one measly out remaining.
And wouldn’t you know it - a career .236 hitter.
By @@
August 6, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this
Thanks V-Dog 85. It was a real nail biter. I’m hearing rumors from employees that Victor didn’t take it too well. Sounds of hurling going on in his office.
Hurling “small” pieces of furniture paid for by we, the taxpayers. A “small” price to pay.
HuGo Victor…
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this
AmVet,
It was two out in the eighth so it was only 7 2/3, but if I’m not mistaken this is only this guy’s second or third major league start this year. He played a few games in 2006 and 2007 with the Yankees so I’m assuming he was basically a minor leaguer those years that came up in September.
By @@
August 6, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this
I soooo Smart:
It’s rare that I look back. Can’t see where I’m goin’ if I do.
Paul:
I accept no insults, therefore you never delivered one. (ISH)
By @@
August 6, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this
Hey!!!!!!!
Do you guys wanna hear about my volleyball team?
I didn’t think so.
J/K. I’m exiting the sports bar.
By AmVet
August 6, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this
I just realized it was not 8 2/3 , RW. I misunderstood.
But still, given that he’s only been in the Bigs a VERY short time, its pretty amazing coming against a good hitting D’backs team.
A great time to be a baseball junkie!
And the Summer Game’s Opening Ceremonies are this Friday night!
Knowing the Chinese, they should be spectacular!
G’night all…
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this
By Paul August 6, 2008 5:50 PM AJC/DNC Management 3:39 Been wondering about the strain on the electric grid all these plug-in electric cars are going to have. Seems to me we’ll need more electric capacity – maybe along the lines of 45 nuke plants. Heard anything about how advocates for a fleet of electric car plan on recharging them?
Paul: Any dhimmi that would even consider buying an electric car hasn’t the mental capacity to think through what is required to charge it.
I can just see it now, when these morons get their first full month electric bill after buying thee toy automobile, the power companies will be inundated with whining and moaning phone calls from these dullards about their doubled up electric bills.
Wait until these simpletons set off across thee country in their wind up Flintstone mobiles and they discover that people just don’t put electrical outlets out for mouth breathers like them to plug into, at least not without a credit card swipe on it.
These beady eyed losers will wind up just running the gas motor in it after a month or so.
P.S. AJC/DNC Towing Service, will pull electric cars anywhere with huge Escalade SUV (no male riders) for $10 a mile, multiple car discounts available, call 1-800-Kis-smya ext.ss.
By By Eeeeeeek
August 6, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this
By @@ August 6, 2008 5:49 PM Gotta throw out “A doctor friend of mine,” we all have met those through our work relationships. You go girlie. Didn’t meet him at work. He was a neighbor. We’re still good friends. He received his training in the military. Both lived in a middle-class neighborhood. He’s moved up and I moved out. Gotta have my space - my vegetable gardens. You know, the simple things in life
My sentiments exactly. Friends, neighbors, vegetable gardens (bounty to share) that’s what it’s all about. Wish you were here! Even if you are a bad ‘right winger!’ Just kiddin!
By V-Dog 85
August 6, 2008 6:16 PM | Link to this
@@,
Le Petit Napoleon, il est morte.
Vivre le vainquer! Vivre l’ecole de Sainte-Victoire! Vivre leur abbe’ Hugh!
Go!
By @@
August 6, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this
I’ve suffered three power outages at my house in the last two weeks due to storms. Minimum wait time was 3 hours, then 4, then six.
Just thought I’d give EMC a plug.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 6:22 PM | Link to this
I guess I should ad that Karstens finished with a two hit complete game shut out making him 2-0 with an era of 0.00 this year, which begs the question. What’s he doing on the Pirates?
(He came over in the Nady trade so they’re probably asking waivers so they can trade him away even as I type)
In other baseball news the Tampa Bay (not Devil) Rays had a six run bottom of the ninth, including a three run walk off home run, for a 10-7 win over Cleveland.
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Back to the Obumbler. Or should I say Obundler.
JERUSALEM, Aug. 4 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — Palestinian brothers inside the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip are listed in government election filings as having donated $29,521.54 to Sen. Barack Obama’s campaign, according to WorldNetDaily’s Jerusalem bureau chief, Aaron Klein.
Obambi knows there is a $2,300 limit doesn’t he. Oh and does he know he can’t take money from Palestinians living in Gaza? And that there isn’t a town named Rafah with a street named Tal Esaltan in Georgia?
Have I mentioned he’s a dunce? A fund raising one though. Rules and Laws be darned, we’ve got HOPE and CHANGE to sell!
By Paul
August 6, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this
Anyone who can’t put ideology aside and laugh out loud at the hilarious mental picture AJC/DNC paints at 6:09 is wound way too tight -
By Whine Y Republicans
August 6, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this
Then, there are those that whine and moan about the high price of gas for the internal combustion engine powered vehicle they blindly sit in traffic jams in. These people, mostly Republican moonbats, calling the elected officials at all hours of the night and day to inquire as to when those drilled holes will provide economic relief only to find themselves lied to by the likes of their Republican elected officials again and again. Then again, that’s the drill. Get used to it, Republican moonbats.
By tdh
August 6, 2008 6:39 PM | Link to this
jones loss because word got out about his support and votes for bush.we all learned from the zell miller term that running as a democrat and voting with bush was a betrayal of georgia’s demacratic voters.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this
This is the post from RedState but I’m not going to bother to format it. Polly might want to read it.
Americans of all political stripes have a rare opportunity to observe history firsthand as Republicans continue to speak on the House floor about U.S. energy policy. Regardless of where you stand politically or on the energy debate specifically, this is your opportunity to sit on the House floor and watch this debate unfold with your own eyes.
The C-SPAN cameras may be turned off and the chamber’s lights may be dimmed, but that hasn’t stopped hundreds (if not thousands) of American citizens from watching the debate on the floor already. You, too, can take part. Here are three simple steps to get on the House floor.
As it currently stands today, Republicans are planning to continue this debate for the rest of the month, so even if you can’t make it to Washington this week, there should be an opportunity to visit the House floor later in August.
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this
Paul: Just imagine the environmental disaster when people start throwing the batteries out of these things, off to the side of the road, all 24 of them, so that they can save weight and get better gas mileage.
By IN THE NEWS
August 6, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this
SAD ANNIVERSARY
And exactly seven years ago today, Bush received a President’s Daily Brief entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” Bush reportedly heard the briefer out and replied:[“All right. You’ve covered your a*, now.] (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/19/AR2006061901211.html)
Seven years ago today we got what we deserved as a nation.
America discovered that when you make a guy you want to have a beer with President , that’s pretty much all you get.
I have greater expectations.
I am proud to support Barack Obama for President.
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this
I’m not sure how wise it is for the libs to be mocking other people about “drilling the unproductive hole.”
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha, it’s too easy.
By Paul
August 6, 2008 6:54 PM | Link to this
RW-(the original)
Debate? Seems as if the counter-arguments they’re getting now make as much sense as the ones they got when Congress was in session.
oh yeah //sarc//
I asked the other day what’s sacrosanct about offshore when it comes to drilling. Why is inland okay but offshore not? Only answer I received was to the effect that it just perpetuates our oil addiction. I asked, and increasing domestic production doesn’t? No response.
By @@
August 6, 2008 6:58 PM | Link to this
Here’s the skinny on the Suleiman assassination. All indications are that Hezbollah ordered the hit because Suleiman, acting as liaison between the Syrian regime and Hezbollah has cut off their weapons supply. immediately following the kill, arrests of locals on the beach were made although it was determined that the assassin’s bullet was fired from a boat out at sea.
Waitin’ and wonderin’.
By Mrs.Godzilla
August 6, 2008 7:01 PM | Link to this
Sorry about 6:50
Using the laptop Mr. G gave me….forgot to change my name….
It’s me, Mrs. G nee ITN
AND
I can’t figure out why the link above didn’t work, but I have a pork tenderloin on the grill and mustn’t dawdle.
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this
By IN THE NEWS August 6, 2008 6:50 PM SAD ANNIVERSARY And exactly seven years ago today, Bush received a President’s Daily Brief entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” Bush reportedly heard the briefer out and replied:[“All right. You’ve covered your a, now.] (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/19/AR2006061901211.html)*
SNEWZE: For Bushie to have covered all of the possibilities described in that memo, it would have included rounding up and detaining Barak Obama.
You know, the Muslim looking guy?
By Paul
August 6, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC 6:48
You mean like people are now doing when their energy-saving lightbulbs go pfffttt? How they’re supposed to place them in an hermetically-sealed double sided container with bright red “Danger” markings because they’re an enviro-hazard?
Yeah, they’ll be just as careful with their batteries, I’m sure.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 7:03 PM | Link to this
Mrs. Newszilla,
Haven’t you already been outed?
Why don’t you read that PDB and tell us what you would do based on what the thing actually said other than what you loons always want to claim it said?
Paul,
They only want to allow inland drilling in areas that don’t have any oil and if anybody ever gets close to rigging out a well there will be some suddenly discovered endangered plant or animal found in the area anyway. When you have State Governors already vetoing refineries and flat out using man made global warming as the excuse you know we’re screwed.
By Paul
August 6, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla
Ever tried a brine for pork? Keeps it from drying out, especially a lean cut like you have, and the flavor is quite nice. Not salty at all.
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this
Sen. Hillary Clinton told a gathering of supporters last week that she’s looking for a “strategy” for her delegates to have their voices heard and “respected” at the Democratic National Convention — and did not rule out the possibility of having her name placed into nomination at the convention alongside Sen. Barack Obama’s.
Gee, Bruno must sense Lord High Dimwit’s, Thee Most Marvelous, imminent demise, and is now jockeying for position.
I feel woozy, ackkk, please Lord, not this again, how much vile and disgust must we endure this year?
Anything but this.
By Whine Y Republicans
August 6, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this
There are environmental disasters and then there are Republican environmental disasters. Depleted uranium shells and kids walking around with live land mines are two that come to mind. Of course, it hasn’t been that long since MTBE was banned from gasoline because of its adverse effects on the environment. Then, there was the leaded gasoline days. Oh yes, let’s not forget asbestos brake linings. OF course, the latest fad (actually it’s not a new fad; I just said that for effect) is the EPA’s designation for waste of a certain minimum composition that they refer to as biosolids. Those golf courses just love the stuff. Just don’t walk on it or breath in the dust. EEEWWWWW. The stuff that could start popping out of your body in the form of tumors and sores and…ugh, it makes me want to puke to think about what people know so little about. Oh well. Better an uninformed Republican than me.
By Paul
August 6, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this
RW-(the original)
I still say the Reps should have come out in opposition to offshore drilling. Pelosi couldn’t have resisted taking the opposite side. Then the Reps coulda switched.
Well, ‘bout time for some food and see the pregame on FSN SW. Texas tromps the Yankees.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 7:18 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G,
They just ran a poll of women to see who they would rather car pool with. I’m not sure you want to go down that road, no pun intended.
Paul,
I often use a dry rub of garlic salt, garlic pepper, and lemon pepper on pork tenderloin and have never had one dry out.
Unless I started blogging and forgot it was cooking. Would a brine help me there? HAHAHA
By Mrs.Godzilla
August 6, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this
RW
What would I do?
Well, next morning there would be a gathering of the cabinet, the heads of the CIA, FBI and all those other initials, representatives of the nations involved, Bandar maybe?, some of Osama’s Saudi releatives that the Bush’s were doing business with.
We’d brainstorm. We would logically and methodically develop a plan to protect the American people from the threat.
We would not leave the conference room without tasks assigned.
Taking some action would not be difficult. Would it be the right action? We all can only speculate.
But I, a lowly regular gal kind of citizen would have addressed the threat.
BUSH DID NOTHING TO PREVENT THE THREATENED AND THEN ACCOMPLISHED ATTACK ON THE US.
WITH ALL THE RESOURCES OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AT HIS FINGERTIPS HE DID NOTHING.
RW, you can defend it till you are blue in the face, but it was and still is disgraceful.
Oh and I love this new ad campaign….
EXXON/McCAIN 08!!
Apricots or peaches with the pork?
By Mrs.Godzilla
August 6, 2008 7:27 PM | Link to this
Paul
I have not tried a brine….is it like what I do for corned beef?
One of our favorites is the Char Sui we bring home from Chen Zhen.
I always start with an olive oil rub, and often keep it simple, just sprinkling with Cavenders.
Y’all keep cool!
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 7:30 PM | Link to this
AJC/DNC-M,
Maybe we better lay off Barry for a few days.
Paul,
They do have a little thing like their political hides to look out for. It might have gotten drilling, but not everybody can be Reagan and go with the credo that there’s no telling how much you can get done if you don’t care who gets the credit.
I guess that’s easier to do when term limited though. Another great reason for strict term limits!
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this
By Whine Y Republicans August 6, 2008 7:15 PM There are environmental disasters and then there are Republican environmental disasters. Of course, it hasn’t been that long since MTBE was banned from gasoline because of its adverse effects on the environment.
Oh, o.k:
MTBE has been used in U.S. gasoline at low levels since 1979 to replace lead as an octane enhancer (helps prevent the engine from “knocking”). Since 1992, MTBE has been used at higher concentrations in some gasoline to fulfill the oxygenate requirements set by Congress in the 1990 Clean Air Act Amendments.
The One Hundred First United States Congress was a meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government, composed of the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives. It met in Washington, DC from January 3, 1989 to January 3, 1991. The apportionment of seats in this House of Representatives was based on the Twentieth Census of the United States in 1980. Both chambers had a Democratic majority.
Moron.
By Gops got to go
August 6, 2008 7:32 PM | Link to this
Katie, I too voted for Rand Knight, Martin was my second choice. Something about Jones smelled like a rat. You are dead on about if Martin and Jones were the 2 candidates on the original ballot, Martin would have won hands down. I hope Rand will try again. I liked what he had to say.
By Political Foreskin
August 6, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this
Ann Coulter thinks Bush protected Americans from another 911, it’s been 7 years.
Ann Coulter, then, must think Clinton protected America from terrorists too, because it was 8 years between attacks on the trade center.
Ann Coulter, maybe I’d crank ya, but stfu.
Obama 08: He wouldn’t crank Ann Coulter, and that’s why he’s the nominee and I’m a lonely horndog.
America takes over.
By Midori
August 6, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this
good on you, Mrs. G.
I can’t wait to see the stupid, slobbering comebacks.
Indeed. So much could have been done, rather than take a month-long vacation and get sloshed every day. Under cover of the fake ranch and the fake “western white house”.
Hey Andy — does Rush offer tips on where to score drugs and the best corners to pick up little boys?
Is that a part of his “subscription” service?
ummmmm…….
pork………………………..
Time to check the freezer.
By @@
August 6, 2008 7:37 PM | Link to this
Alaska files lawsuit over polar bear listing.
Man…….that’s cold! (ISH)
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 7:40 PM | Link to this
Mrs. G,
You would do all those in response to what data that was in the PDB?
About the only options would have been to shut down the US airline industry and invade Afghanistan. There was a mention of Federal buildings in New York State as possible targets of explosives so you could have shut them all down, but that wouldn’t have helped you with the trade towers.
Apricots.
By Jaybird
August 6, 2008 7:41 PM | Link to this
Martin would make a great senator…for Massachusetts.
By Quick!
August 6, 2008 7:41 PM | Link to this
Oh goodie. The blog is still open! Does Mrs. Godzilla have a job, or a life for that matter? Typical mindless emotion driven dimwitocrat. What does she think she’s going to accomplish with all that wasted time here, transforming us all and Georgia to a bunch of mindless liberal dependent on government idiots? Hahaha.
Watch The Messiah drool and spit on the issue of drilling and then mindlessly claim that the questioning reporter is a proxy for McCain like some idiot non-thinking @ss (well, he IS a liberal, isn’t he?
Like ONE reporter shows up when McCain got back from Europe and THREE BIG ONES FLEW with Obama over there, not to mention the scores that show up at every O-Farce One event. This guy is such a dufus. An idiot, just like the mindless incompetent helpless zombies on the left that support him.
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this
By Midori August 6, 2008 7:36 PM Hey Andy — does Rush offer tips on where to score drugs and the best corners to pick up little boys?
I r o Dim: Considering that I had no idea that little boys stood on the corner waiting to be picked up, I guess the answer to your question would be no.
Say, how did you know that little boys stood on corners?
And if prescription drug abuse is the best you’ve got, then accept the fact that you are also discrediting quite a few little left wing sycophants, including most of Hollywood.
Shall we go there?
By V-Dog 85
August 6, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this
Mrs.G.,
Cheers for Paul’s advice to brine lean pork or pork you don’t intend either to braise for many hours or else truly barbeque for 12-18 hrs.
Trick is to strike the right proportion of salt/sugar and not to brine too long, or else you’ll corn or even kipper the pork. All depends on the cut of the meat, on the type of salt, and sugar, you’re using. I brine thick center-cut chops all the the time, for up to four hrs., with equal parts refined sugar and kosher salt. Never fails.
But I wouldn’t salt any meat between the brining and the serving.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 7:55 PM | Link to this
Polly,
You’re leaving out quite a few attacks on US property during the rest of Clinton’s administration. Do a search that includes things like embassies and ships.
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Multiple people have said today they voted for candidate A and went back for the runoff and voted for candidate B who was their second choice. When are we going to wise up and do an instant runoff by letting people indicate their second choice the first time they go to the polls?
By Bud Wiser
August 6, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this
Well, it has been several hours (I was out at the driving range in this heat…I LOVE IT), and I see that not one intellectually sound reason or rejoinder has been posted by any of the leftist loons, explaining the real reason blacks support Hussein Obama by a 95-1 ratio?
I guess it would be unreasonable of me, however, to expect anything approaching an intelligent discussion from publicly educated Democrats. You just can’t pull most of them far away enough from their government teat to get anything reasonably sound.
However, I expected nothing but insults anyway. It is all the weak minded have when they have no facts or truth to support their irrationalities. They cannot focus or stay on the subject matter at hand, but have to leap into their foaming-at-the-mouth diatribes against me, or anyone that exposes their inconvenient truths. (note: I love using their own mindless stupidity against them, they get sooooo mad)
I know that all of you liberals are not as ignorant as you come off to be in your posts. It is just so hard to tell when you cannot answer a simple question; is it because you are so afraid of how your answer will be perceived; is it because you do not understand the question; or, is it that you are so into self flagellation that your unaccountable feelings of ‘white guilt’ are being opened up by your tormentors?
As I said before, this is not a racist question, but why is the 95% black support not accounted for as racially motivated?
No Answer (that you will admit to)?
I thought not.
Good night all.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this
The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full field investigations throughout the US that it considers Bin Ladin-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our Embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group of Bin Ladin supporters was in the US planning attacks with explosives.
That’s the last paragraph of that PDB and the link is to the text.
Don’t you love how libs always know the exact proper course of action after everything has happened, but they never offer one in advance?
Let’s say 9/11 had been prevented. There isn’t a one of you libs that would believe it.
By Copyleft
August 6, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this
Already answered, Bud, but of course you ignored it because it didn’t fit in your narrow worldview.
Blacks are supporting Obama for the same reason they often support Democratic candidates; because they make up a bigger chunk of the POOR, and the poor typically (and sensibly) vote Democratic because the GOP keeps trying to screw them over.
Not race-based; class-based. As almost everything is, in our political system.
By BFF
August 6, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this
I’m a black woman and I voted for Jim Martin. I actually went to the polls to vote AGAINST Vernon Jones. My thoughts about Vernon Jones is that is you vote GOP, then you should run as GOP. Please stop believing that blacks don’t consider character, only color. So not true.
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 8:08 PM | Link to this
And you thought Conservatives were a dying breed:
FLASH: ANTI-OBAMA BOOK — OBAMA NATION — TOPS BOTH NYT BESTSELLER LIST/BOOKSCAN FOR AUGUST 17… DEVELOPING…
Can you say Dukakis?
By @@
August 6, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this
Well, from the hind end, OBlahMa insists that his plan in Iraq might’ve worked better than the surge. Who knows?
The one McCain proposed is working just fine.
But……but……but
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this
copycat,
Just as Bud may have ignored your comment you ignored mine, although I allow for the possibility you just missed it.
This isn’t the most reader friendly format after all.
After 40+ years of Democrat policies giving the poor just enough to stay poor isn’t it about time they see what they’re being used for?
By Bill
August 6, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this
“And you thought Conservatives were a dying breed:”
Only mindless idiots ponder that - which means liberals of course. Hell Conservatives are outbreeding the cretins and have been for some time. In another generation or so, things will change. Don’t worry. Conservatives breed future Conservatives by at least 75% (for you idiot liberals that means 3 out of 4 kids from Conservative families become Conservative themselves).
By V-Dog 85
August 6, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this
@@,
U comes and UGOes, but I’m pressed for words, except to say that while you make me wise but sometimes a bit sad, Bud Wiser makes me sadder.
By Political Foreskin
August 6, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this
Ann Coulter’s books were perrenial best sellers all through the downward spiral of the Bush administration, the death of conservativism, and now the unraveling of the GOP. There’s millions of conservatives, even if they are a minority, and eat watermelon instead of viagra. That’s a lot of fat GOP wives spitting out a lot of seeds…….ew
Take comfort in your book sales, Corporal Duhng. You’re going to need all the self balmed finger swabbing you and your girlfriend RW can muster…..ew.
Obama is our next president.
America takes over…..yay!
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 8:30 PM | Link to this
Is letting a city flood good policy to help the poor? I don’t think so, but if you think Billy Jeff appointed moonbat(ic)® judges just wait until you see what Obambi will stock the bench with if he has a big senate majority.
By Whine Y Republicans
August 6, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this
Andy,
I don’t even have to ask if you are stupid. You like to proclaim it so clearly all on your own. MORON yourself. By the way, if I sent you a quart of MTBE, would you pour it in with your drinking water and consume it. You would if Bush told you to, wouldn’t you. You are as dumb as they come. Now go stick your mouth on the exhaust pipe of that gasoline engine in your little gas guzzler. Give a hoot — don’t pollute.
Also on March 20, 2000, EPA Administrator Browner announced the beginning of regulatory action under the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA) to significantly reduce or eliminate use of MTBE in gasoline while preserving clean air benefits.
By Tinsel
August 6, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this
speaking of class
What’s the Most Classist Thing You’ve Ever Heard Someone Say.
There was one guy I worked with, he thought he was the smartest organizer, and he would say things to me, like “Can you turn out 500 people for this meeting and then we’ll go and do the negotiations for them?” He thought of working class people as props and their voices as sound bites.
Several times I’ve heard social welfare professionals say about poor mothers, “We have to speak for them because they can’t speak for themselves.”
libs feeling good about insulting the poor.
dumbas-s libs.
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this
Aahhh, yes, Bruno bares thee fangs:
*In private conversations, associates say, Clinton remains skeptical that Obama can win in the fall. That’s a sentiment some other Democrats believe is not just a prediction but a wish, because it would prove her right about his weaknesses as a general-election candidate and possibly pave the way for her to run again in 2012. Clinton is also annoyed that Obama has yet to deliver on his end of an informal bargain, reached as part of their truce, that each would raise $500,000 for the other. “Hillary has done her part in that regard,” says an adviser. “Obama has not.” *
2012?
Does this signal the start of the White Power onslaught to castrate the uppity Lord High Dimwit, Thee Most Splendid?
I told you it was coming.
Bwa.
There is one thing the KKKlintoons do good and take great pride in, that is slime people.
ew.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this
OMG! I found Polly!
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this
By Whine Y Republicans August 6, 2008 8:41 PM Also on March 20, 2000, EPA Administrator Browner
Moron: This was ten years after the liberals instigated the disaster that they wound up having to clean up.
What the F do we have to do with it?
All you’ve done is prove that every time a dimwit pinko fiddles with energy policy it results in a total, unmitigated catastrophe, people have freaking died from liberal ideas, so yes, mouth breather, keep sticking up for the murderers.
POS.
By Whine Y Republicans
August 6, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this
Andy,
You have yet to quit proclaiming your stupidity and back at you with the POS.
You were the moonbat Republican harping on about environmental disasters with batteries. Well, batteries can at least be picked up and handled and recycled. Try doing that with auto pollution of any kind you moonbat POS. You see, you are not the only one capable of tossing out acronyms, idiot. As for you dates and democratic congresses, H.W. Bush was president back then so he would have to approve the legislation. But, that’s not even the whole story. Then again, how could anyone expect you to understand that. How about this part, moonbat Republican:
The Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990 (CAA) require the use of oxygenated gasoline in areas with unhealthy levels of air pollution. The CAA does not specifically require MTBE. Refiners may choose to use other oxygenates, such as ethanol.
They could have used ethanol from day one, moonbat Republican idiot.
You want more, idiot. I’ll dish out more just for you. You little puke. Now get over to Iraq and start picking up live ordinance — make yourself useful to your country.
By V-Dog 85
August 6, 2008 9:16 PM | Link to this
Tinsel,
You’re story’s good. Reminds me of the final delegate negotiations been Barack’s lawyers and Hillary’s lawyers.
I once heard at a penthouse party, not far from where Barack made his gun-clingy-God-clingy remards, a somewhat notorious man named William (Bill) Coblentz say to a doyen, “But dear, there are only 43 people in the world who matter, and we’re two of them.”
Wish they’re been a 1-800-TOM-WOLF[e] hotline so I could’ve called it in, with the delicious particulars. Maestro Wolfe could’ve dined out on that one for weeks in Manhattan. Oh yes, Diane Feinstein and her husband Dick were there. Smashing as always.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this
live ordinance
Now there’s a dead giveaway that the idiot making the tough guy request doesn’t have the first clue what they’re talking about.
By SCY
August 6, 2008 9:24 PM | Link to this
For all of Vernon Jones’ faults, Jim Martin is no real choice, he has nolrecord of accomplishment, and is nothing more than a political hack. I don’t see how his election helps anyone, except maybe Saxby Chamblis…
By AJC/DNC Management
August 6, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this
Moron: In 1990, MTBE was far more readily available than ethanol was, back then people ate corn instead of putting it in their gas tank, you silly little dimwit.
And by the way, I was wrong, Republicans cleaned up your disaster:
The Senate Environment and Public Works Committee marked up S. 2962, a bill introduced by Chairman Bob Smith (R-NH), on September 7th. Similar to several other bills introduced in this Congress to phase out the use of MTBE, S. 2962 would amend the Clean Air Act to allow governors, once they notify the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Administrator, “to waive oxygen content requirements for reformulated gasoline” in their state.
And:
In 1990, Congress created the Reformulated Gasoline (RFG) program under section 211(k) of the Clean Air Act. Under this provision, Congress required the use of Reformulated Gasoline (RFG) in 10 specific ozone nonattainment areas and allowed other areas to “opt in” to the RFG program. The Act specified that RFG must contain two percent oxygen by weight, which was thought to be helpful in reducing ozone precursors. The primary fuel additives used to meet the two percent oxygenate requirement have been MTBE and ethanol, which were also the principal oxygenates in use in 1990. As a result of the 1990 Clean Air Act Amendments, MTBE use increased dramatically.
You lost, sycophant.
Your wormy little Godless heathen Earth worshipping ideas kill people.
You may want to rethink boasting about them, dumbas-s.
By Jack
August 6, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this
That’s a ridiculous assumption. While I’m sure that Jones’ unelectability had something to do with the voters’ decisions, how can you claim that the Obama campaign surreptitiously planted this idea in a way that affected the runoff? There’s no proof of that whatsoever. Not only would it be a crazy idea to try and secretly inform all of the voters to vote for Martin. It is impossible. I don’t doubt that Obama would prefer Martin, but it seems much more likely that the voters came to the same conclusion independently. He was boosted by higher turnout and endorsements from other candidates (plus Lowery), so he won. Many people questioned whether Jones could ever increase his vote share.
By Peaches
August 6, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this
Love to listen to the democrats strut past the graveyard. Looks like the country is waking up to the fact that Obama is not our messiah after all. He is an empty suit. The democrats got snookered. In a year they could have won with several of their candidates, they picked a shallow lightweight who is being exposed for what he is. Bet Hillary makes one more try.
By Steve
August 6, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this
**GET REAL
Not eating any crow here. DNC left us no choice.
Bush or Gore? Gotta vote Bush on that one Bush or Kerry? Gotta vote Bush on that one too
Can you imagine those two idiots running this country?
McCain or Obama? Gotta vote McCain on that one because the other choice is just too ridiculous.
By ch67
August 6, 2008 9:46 PM | Link to this
Well said “Copyleft” @ 8:32. Jim and the rightwingnuts just can’t accept that Democratic black voters don’t march in lockstep. After all, that’s been Jim’s argument for weeks as to why Jones would win. I can’t wait for November when the Republicans try to explain their defeat.
By @@
August 6, 2008 10:01 PM | Link to this
V-Dog 85:
while you make me wise but sometimes a bit sad
I’m sorry. It’s never been my intention to make you or anyone else sad. Be it in bits, pieces or other wise.
By Bob from Canton
August 6, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this
It had a lot to do with people knowing more about the candidate as time went on. The same will happen to Obama, as more people actually find out what his beliefs are, they will say NO WAY! Right now all they have heard about him is his speeches, which he is very good at making, but watch when he gets a tough question (seldom, but it does happen).
By @@
August 6, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this
Hold on a minute………………
Are you drinkin’ Budweiser Glenn errrr, I mean V-Dog?
V8 is much better for you. Boink! you coulda had one.
By romo
August 6, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this
Ah Wooten, when will you come out of your fog. Vernon Jones was an idiot from day one who only sunk lower and lower as time went by. I work in DeKalb County and I saw his leadership first hand. He batered for sex while in office, threw the Democrats under the bus with his idiotic statements and voted for Bush twice!! Who was going to vote for this clown. People got sick and tired and showed him the door. This is what McCain and the rest of you empty suit Republican conservatives will experience come November!!
By @@
August 6, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this
My apologies.
Boink was a bad choice of words.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this
@@,
Glenn…err…V-8 dog has an incredible knack for ending up humping your leg even though I suspect he has higher aims.
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Bob from Canton,
When properly prepared as in when he knows he’s doing an interview with an approved “journalist” or giving a speech The Dunce is fine. His handlers will never let him roam into unscripted territory so the best we can hope for is a teleprompter malfunction. If ever there was a Wizard of Oz, Man Behind the Curtain moment, that would be it.
By @@
August 6, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this
RW:
Is it my mind? He did say I make him wiser. (ISH)
~~~~~~~~~~OO~~~~~~~~~
Obama is overreacting just a bit.
Such behavior will be his undoing. I heard tell OBlahMa had a self-deprecating sense of humor. Clearly whoever said that was WRONG!
Good grief!
By Midori
August 6, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this
this is all the GOP is about - whether its Chimpy, McInsane or Shotgun Cheney
pitiful.
just plain pitiful.
talk big but only offer minute results.
is that why you wingnuts are so good at nitpicking?
Night, all.
By medicinepoet
August 6, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this
The news that Jones supported the election of George W. Bush for president in 2000 and in 2004 was better highlighted in the weeks before the runoff election for senate. This is the major factor in Vernon Jones’ loss. Bush is toxic. Republicans beware.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this
@@,
I’m not sure his aim is quite that high, but let’s give him the benefit of the doubt.
I was just thinking about the speaking styles of our last few President/President wannabes and I believe I’ve underestimated Billy Jeff. While it’s true that our lefty “friends” are correct when they say our current President makes a horrible speech they underestimate his ability to talk to a crowd or answer questions. By the same token they overestimate Barry just because he can read a teleprompter and answer a question that’s been provided in advance. BJ could give a load of BS regardless and I need to belatedly give him credit. He’s the first one that realized that the only thing you needed was BS to sway Dhimmicrats and as long as you had a running mate named Ross Perot BS would suffice.
By @@
August 6, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this
How many here are aware of Petraeus’ unannounced visit to Lebanon?
Why Lebanon?
Why now?
Why Petraeus?
It’s all coming together. Details tomorrow.
This is so coooooool.
Buona notte tutto.
By RW-(the original)
August 6, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this
A cartoon from the parrot??!! I’m shocked, shocked I say!
Actually I’m more surprised that she managed to post a link that worked.
By SMOKEY
August 7, 2008 1:00 AM | Link to this
I’m not a fan of Wooten, but his last two columns have been particularly crappy! It’s real simple. 60% voted against Jones in the primary, and about 60% voted against him in the general. What’s up with all of this over-analysis?
By Bud Wiser
August 7, 2008 5:38 AM | Link to this
We need some new material.
When does Jay get back?
Do we want him back?
Will AJC take him back?
Stay tuned………….
By Bud Wiser
August 7, 2008 5:57 AM | Link to this
Takin’ the boat out this morning for a little fishing. Most assuredly I’ll be coming in before the heat or forecast storms can make it dicey
Nothing beats a little time on the watr to clear one’s head. All you hard-working Democrats stealing taxpayer money while you spin your idiocy on this blog, get back to work.
All of you Republicans in the supervisory positions over these morons, check the troops, and keep your hands off the secretary….
Everybody take an extra 20 minutes off for lunch today, and contemplate why it is you that is working and those like me enjoying the good life.
See you later, tools.
By GOPs got to go
August 7, 2008 6:37 AM | Link to this
With a little luch the Gator will get you
By slotl
August 7, 2008 7:41 AM | Link to this
I don’t care whether it is Martin or Magilla Gorilla running against Chambliss.
If you remember Chambliss’s original run for the Senate, he portrayed Max Cleland (a Viet Nam vet who lost both legs and one arm) as UNPATRIOTIC!
Chambliss also voted with Dubya 98% of the time.
I would consider Chambliss part of the overall PROBLEM. Definitely not a free-thinker or problem solver.
By AJC/DNC Management
August 7, 2008 7:42 AM | Link to this
Key election law goes without vote- Iraqi Parliament chooses recess over agreement-Thee Doom and Gloom/DNC
Key energy law goes without vote- United States Congress chooses recess over agreement-AJC/DNC
I wonder why I had to make up headline #2?
It’s even got more truth to it.
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Men’s pantyhose on the way up. Trend toward tights kicks into high gear in Europe. Is it Batman envy? A fashion statement? Or is history just repeating itself?-Urinal/PMS
Or is it just a bunch of freak socialists hoping to neuter the entire male race?
I got your “hose,” AJC.
~~~~~
Combined with a global warming policy that includes breath retention, antacids for cows, and Jimmy Carter snuggle sweaters, this incredible “energy package we can believe in” will make Americans, for the first time in their miserable lives, “really proud” of their country — proud of a trim, sweaty, bicycle-riding, non-nuclear, petroleum-averse, inertia-loving, nature-respecting America that’s only going downhill.
Down and out.
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So, everyone is puzzled why the Democratic candidate isn’t at least 10 points ahead. It seems the more Americans get used to Barack Obama, the less they want him as president — and the more Democrats will soon regret not nominating Bruno Clinton.
In a tough year like this, Democrats could probably have defeated Republican John McCain with a flawed, but seasoned candidate like Hillary Clinton. But long-suffering liberals convinced their party to go with a messiah rather than a dependable nominee — and thereby they probably will get neither.
By Phat @
August 7, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this
I wrote this Ode to Eli last night to celebrate the 2008 NFL preseason and to look back at a classic superbowl that wowed us all. I had great hopes for this piece when I first conceived it, but ultimately it fails and really stinks. If only Rush Limbaugh had talked about the Superbowl then I coulda hacked him like the right does here. Anyway, see how bad prose can get when you’re not careful.
ODE TO ELI:
It doesn’t take much to make me happy. When you stay hungry, everything tastes good. But I do need a quarterback.
When I first saw Eli Manning I was suprised. Peyton has a brother in the NFL? I gave up on him many times. (Flashes of brilliance, too many interceptions). But he never gave up on me and I said yes under an unretracted roof in Phoenix last Superbowl sunday.
Outlined against a blue grey curtain of certain and sudden death, Eli slipped the surly grasp of the blitz. He wheeled and flung and did a hundred things I’ve only dreamed of. His oval soared long and delirious over tangled arms and teeth clenched in hate. Once more into the breech he joined the tumbling mirth and offered a wounded desperation that a wide-out held on to like it was the Lombardi Trophy.
The next thing you know, Burress fakes the post, and son I got High Fives way down low, low, low…..
No, it doesn’t take much to make me happy. Not much at all.
By William
August 7, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
Who will I be voting for in November? Whoever will allow Nuclear, Wind, Oil Shale development, and crude Oil drilling wherever it is available, and whoever votes against Bio-Fuel. Why would you want to put your food in your gas tank? Our economy is based on Oil whether you like it or not and will not change for at least 30 years. If you want America to be subserviant to China, India and Russia, continue voting against Oil. Your children will hate you for it. This is not a political issue, its an Economic issue that can make or break America.
By William
August 7, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
Who will I be voting for in November? Whoever will allow Nuclear, Wind, Oil Shale development, and crude Oil drilling wherever it is available, and whoever votes against Bio-Fuel. Why would you want to put your food in your gas tank? Our economy is based on Oil whether you like it or not and will not change for at least 30 years. If you want America to be subserviant to China, India and Russia, continue voting against Oil. Your children will hate you for it. This is not a political issue, its an Economic issue that can make or break America.
By Daedalus
August 7, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this
When are you right-wingers going to realize that African-American voters can think for themselves and will not vote in lock-step for a candidate just because he is black?
Oh, that’s right, never.
If you want to understand why black voters are not flocking to the GOP — just read the stereotypes of them being pushed by Wooten and right-wing dittoheads posting on this blog.
Vernon Jones was a flawed candidate — he was flawed even before he doctored a photo to show him and Obama appearing together. He was flawed before he disclosed he voted for Bush, twice.
We need fewer sychophants in Congress, not more. Saxby Chambliss is just a yes-man for Bush/Cheney who questions the patriotism of anyone who doesn’t agree with his worldview. Its time for him to go.
By Joe
August 7, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
Georgia is and will be solid red. Saxby wins in a walk - quite like Martin did over Jones - and McCain becomes President. Martin has no effect. Too many Americans are too smart than to vote for Obama.
By Joe
August 7, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
Georgia is and will be solid red. Saxby wins in a walk - quite like Martin did over Jones - and McCain becomes President. Martin has no effect. Too many Americans are too smart than to vote for Obama.
By CommunistAJC
August 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
For all you liberal morons who were against General Petraeus. Suck on this this scum bags!
How General Petraeus Saved the U.S. Economy.
With oil prices continuing to plunge—and they may have a lot further to go—I’ve started wondering about this “what if” scenario: Where would oil prices be today had we abandoned Iraq to civil war and al Qaeda? What if President Bush had announced on Jan. 10, 2007, that instead of surging U.S. troops under the command of General Patraeus, he was ordering their withdrawal? Imagine if Iraq had descended in complete chaos and terror and genocide. Somalia or Rwanda on the Tigris and Euphrates, I guess.
Right now, Iraq is pumping out some 2.4 million barrels of petroleum a day. (That’s about what the country was producing before the war and double the level of production at its post-liberation low point.) But given tight global oil markets, what would the price of oil be—and what would the state of the U.S. economy be—with perhaps all of those 2.4 million barrels off the market? Actually, we don’t have to imagine very hard at all. Hurricane Katrina took about 2.4 million barrels off the market (because of refining shutdown and a halt to foreign oil deliveries), and oil prices spiked. And then layer on top of all that a possible regional war. Saudi Arabia and Iran might well have intervened on the side of the Sunni and Shiite. Wouldn’t we all be screaming about $200-a-barrel oil—or maybe twice that?
Instead, to quote a recent and much-overlooked Associated Press analysis, terrorists and insurgents “no longer have the clout to threaten the viability of the central government.” Perhaps now the energy-stressed global economy can look forward to more Iraq oil coming onto the market, perhaps 6 million barrels a day or more in time as western capital pours in. And while we’re at it, don’t forget about the costs of not liberating Iraq to begin with. In today’s Wall Street Journal, columnist Bret Stephens presents an interesting counterfactual that raises all sorts of interesting questions about opportunity costs:
Had [Saddam] remained in power, we would likely still believe he had WMD. He would have been sitting on an oil bonanza priced at $140 a barrel. He would almost certainly have broken free from an already crumbling sanctions regime. The U.S. would be faced with not one, but two, major adversaries in the Persian Gulf. Iraqis would be living under a regime that, in an average year, was at least as murderous as the sectarian violence that followed its collapse. And the U.S. would have seemed powerless to shape events.By Cheryl
August 7, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
I am a Black voter and a resident of DeKalb County. I did not vote for Vernon Jones and wouldn’t in a million years. The black vote is always taken for granted when a Black candidate is involved. Mr. Jones himself is probably guilty of this. There are a lot of Black voters in DeKalb county and elsewhere in Georgia who did not support Vernon Jones. Believe it or not America, black voters do review the records of political candidates and we vote accordingly. The only person tooting the horn of Vernon Jones and all that he has supposedly done for DeKalb county is Vernon Jones. Imagine the field day Saxby Chambliss would have had with Vernon Jones as an opponent. Having Vernon Jones as the Democratic candidate would have been political suicide for the Georgia Democratic Party, something black and white voters realized. Jim Martin may not guarantee the Democrates a win for Georgia, but Vernon Jones would have guaranteed a loss.
By GaLiberal
August 7, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
Moron Jim says: Can Martin beat Chambliss? Highly unlikely.
Moron Jim is correct, but not for the reasons he thinks. Chambliss will win because he has the Rethuglicon hate and lie machine pumping out their routine of lies and half-truths about Democrats. They have outright lied about what Obama says and then attack his character by claiming he’s “playing the race card.” That’s code talk for “he’s taking God-fearing Christian White people’s jobs.” If they do that to Obama, just think what they will do with Martin. Remember Chambliss’ billboard of bin Laden and Cleland pictures? That’s how low Chambliss will sink. And the ignorant bigoted voters will eat it up like it’s peanut butter pie.
Martin does not believe in Bush’s failed economic policies; Chambliss does. Martin does believes in strong consumer protection laws; Chambliss does not. Martin does not believe in Bush’s reckless and unnecessary Iraq war which has us spending $10 BILLION/month; Chambliss does. Martin does not believe in corporate welfare; Chambliss not. Martin believes in affordable health care for all Americans; Chambliss does not. I’ll remember in November. Will you?
When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Saxby Chambliss is living proof.
By GaLiberal
August 7, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
Moron Jim says: Can Martin beat Chambliss? Highly unlikely.
Moron Jim is correct, but not for the reasons he thinks. Chambliss will win because he has the Rethuglicon hate and lie machine pumping out their routine of lies and half-truths about Democrats. They have outright lied about what Obama says and then attack his character by claiming he’s “playing the race card.” That’s code talk for “he’s taking God-fearing Christian White people’s jobs.” If they do that to Obama, just think what they will do with Martin. Remember Chambliss’ billboard of bin Laden and Cleland pictures? That’s how low Chambliss will sink. And the ignorant bigoted voters will eat it up like it’s peanut butter pie.
Martin does not believe in Bush’s failed economic policies; Chambliss does. Martin does believes in strong consumer protection laws; Chambliss does not. Martin does not believe in Bush’s reckless and unnecessary Iraq war which has us spending $10 BILLION/month; Chambliss does. Martin does not believe in corporate welfare; Chambliss not. Martin believes in affordable health care for all Americans; Chambliss does not. I’ll remember in November. Will you?
When you vote Rethuglicon, you vote against your own best interests. And Saxby Chambliss is living proof.
By Whine Y Republicans
August 8, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this
I didn’t have a chance earlier to check back in but I can see now that it would not have mattered anyway. Old dung for brains Andy and his stall tapping puke sidekick RW were just playing with each other some more as usual. Hey, dung for brains Andy, did you ever stop to think (obviously not) that more MTBE was produced because that’s what the oil companies wanted to produce. You are 1A draft material for live land mine removal duty. Take you buttocks-sniffing RW along with you. The two of you should have a real blast.
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