By AJC/DNC Management

August 5, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this

Check it out, for the next several weeks the liberals in Congress will whine and moan about the Republicans being tools of the “Big Oil” companies, they will blubber about drilling “not producing a drop of oil for ten years,” they will go off on gigantic crying jags about “trying to save the planet” and then they will come back from vacation, if not sooner, and vote yes for drilling the very first chance they get, to a man, save for one or two dimwitocrat kooks from the hardcore green weenie districts.

Hahahahaha, bozos.

Anybody wanna bet that I’m wrong?

Under thee bus with you, environmental terrorists.

Buh-bye, suckers.

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Something even the dimwitocrats cannot ignore:

When President George W. Bush eliminated the executive moratorium on offshore drilling a month ago, effectively launching the drill, drill, drill offensive, oil was close to $150 a barrel. Since then, the barrel price has dropped to nearly $120 as futures-market traders anticipate a major shift in federal drilling policy.

Christianity has a place in China-Urinal/Jihad

Yeah, under the steam roller, where the libs would like to put it in America.

Factory makes Bibles, walking a fine line between nation’s limits, openness.

The libs made themselves right at home in China, I see, going around to see all the persecuted believers and then writing goon propaganda articles on how “good” the government is to it’s citizens.

China is, after all, socialist, so the pinkos don’t have to spend anytime researching the government, it is already modeled after the dimwitocrat party.

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Homeowners may pay for state budget woes- Property taxes could go up as Georgia’s possible $1.6 billion shortfall spurs counties to make up for lost funds, blah, blah, blah.-Doom and Gloom/DNC

The Doom and Gloom/AJC knows that state gov is in far better condition then dimwitocrat led Atl city gov, which isn’t a good situation to have in an election season, so look for many propaganda stories to scare up a crisis in state gov, crisis that the Urinal full well knows will never come to pass.

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On behalf of our beloved allies in the Middle East, thee Urinal/Jihad is pleased to announce thee following blessed news, allah be praised:

Iran announced Monday that it has tested a new weapon capable of sinking ships nearly 200 miles away, and it reiterated threats to close a strategic waterway at the mouth of the Persian Gulf if attacked.-Urinal/Jihad

They even sent us a cartoon of it flying through thee air.

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The never ending battle against American prosperity and national security marches on:

Clear the air: Coal not a healthy investment-Bobby McClendon is president of the Early County-based “Friends of the Chattahoochee,” a nonprofit citizens group.-Urinal/PMS

Do tell us, toadies, what does coal burning have to do with the Chattahoochee?

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Bill Clinton: ‘I never made a racist comment’-Urinal/DNC

I never had sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky

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This kind of thing happens again and again to the Drive-Bys. So insulated and isolated are they from America and average Americans they are utterly unable to see the world through a non-Drive-By lens. To watch Matthews work the crowd at a White House Correspondents dinner is to see a Drive-By capo in his natural habitat. To think they really understand what’s going on in the lives of the constituents of, say, those 200 Pennsylvania city leaders Matthews spoke to over breakfast in Gettysburg is something else again.

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THAT’S ABOUT THE BEST we can expect from the 60s Generation, a cohort that preached — and I do mean preached — the gospel of no heaven, no borders, no possessions, and all the nonsense a former Beatle catalogued in that puerile and vacuous Hippie anthem “Imagine.” Of course, not one of the boomers really believed that twaddle, but it was cool to pretend. Some are pretending still; to do otherwise would be to admit that your whole life was a sham.

Godless heathens trying to create their own heaven and then having faith in it.

Insane, isn’t it?

Aging boomers, like Rob Reiner, must have been terribly disappointed when finally they got an authentic liberal, pot-smoking, sax-playing, Yale lawyer in the White House and, instead of changing the world, or the country, or even the federal government, he spent his term chasing interns around the Oval Office and hiding from his wife.

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On April the 10, 1975, President Ford made an impassioned plea to a Joint Session of the Congress to give the funds for aid we had promised South Vietnam in the Paris Peace Accords of January 27, 1973. The (dimwitocrat led) Congress refused. One week after President Ford’s rejected plea, Cambodia fell, and before the end of the month South Vietnam fell. Shortly after that I asked former President Nixon what he would have done had he still been president with the imminent surrender of Cambodia and South Vietnam while Congress denied the funds to prevent those surrenders. He answered, “I would have bombed the blazes out of Hanoi and Haiphong.” Then he added, “I would have been impeached but so what? We would have saved millions of Southeast Asian lives.” In short, presidents are commanders in chief.

By Bud Wiser

August 5, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this

Anyone that read about the total corruption in the Clayton school system, the hiring of friends and relatives no less, are not surprised by this. What do you expect out of low level public educated minorities when they get into a position of power? Following the Democrat blueprint of class and wealth envy, they try to bilk the taxpayers (re. - whitey) out of their confiscated by the government income.

Well, well, well. To look at the other news, we have this. It appears that in the latest Rasmussen Poll that John McCain is leading the socialist Hussein Obama by a single percentage point. This is not to be aglow over a one point lead, but to point out that Hussein had a 10 point lead in the same poll just over two weeks ago.

It appears that America is slowly but surely starting to discover what a disaster this socialist could be, and the polls are just starting to reflect that. In lieu of Obama’s not-so-subtle playing of the race card against McCain, the prospective voters are starting to make themselves be heard. Like a trickle of water that slowly seeps from a crack in the dike (a perfect metaphor for Mrs G and Co. BTW), the flow shall continue to increase little by little, until it becomes a real old fashioned gully washer. The spinsters from the left will try to plug it any way they can. I can foresee that the smear campaign from the left will now go full throttle, but it is too late. His little toads like those that inhabit this site on a regular basis will be screaming and foaming at the mouth, hurling vile baseless insults at anyone who does not march in lockstep with them to the drumbeat of the DNC. They are pathetic, but deserve no pity, they have chosen their own path.

As I predicted weeks ago, the stench of liberalism has been loosed by the Dimmwitocrats upon our country, and America doesn’t like what it smells. As your far left ‘champions’ of the past…Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore…this one has been ferreted out and will follow their similar pathway to losing. They always are their own worst enemies, their egomaniacal (though none as over the top as Hussein Obama) nature making its way to the front pages.

Ah yes, sanity is returning to the universe. I look forward to my Fall hunting trip now more so than ever! August 5, 2008, the beginning of the end for the socialist Hussein. You read it here first. His spiral into the cellar has just begun.

And I am laughing my a$$ off at you stupid liberals again! You people must have some kind of death wish to support the socialist Hussein. You never learn.

But then again, you are Dimwittocrats, it is your nature.

By BFKaJ

August 5, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. One could quibble with elements of Sen. Johnson’s proposal, but I would rather expend my energies supporting the thrust of his analysis, which mostly makes sense to me. The suggestions seem to me to be well founded, and generally enhance freedom and constrain government, so I am philosophically in line with Sen. Johnson.

I yield the balance of my babble to Glenn (if he still posts here – a couple of our bloggers sound much like him) and MidSouth Philosopher and @@, all of whom have specific acquaintance with the daily problems of government schools, and all of whom have some sense of the reforms necessary. I am unlikely to return to the blog today unless the moonbats start posting nonsense about Iraq and neocons, or until some economic illiterate says “drilling will not lower prices.”

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 8:14 AM | Link to this

First a look ate the surveyers….

“”Public Opinion Strategies (POS) describes itself as a “Republican polling firm”. [1] It has offices in Virginia, Colorado and California.

“IRI’s annual reports for 2003 and 2004 include among their lists of volunters a significant number of Republican pollsters, consultants, strategists, public opinion researchers, and campaign website designers, some of whom have come under fire for unethical practices.

“For example, Rob Autry and Gene Ulm are with Public Opinion Strategies, the largest Republican polling firm. POS was responsible for the “Harry and Louise” ad in the early 90’s that scuttled Clinton’s health insurance proposals. In 2001, it was charged with violating Virginia’s polling disclosure laws, and it has also been accused of using push polls to influence elections.”“

From Source Watch

NY Post, Fox News touted flawed GOP poll to claim “America Says Let’s Win [Iraq] War”

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this

Test Your Voucher Smarts! Think you know everything about vouchers? Test yourself with our online quiz! You will be given the correct answer after each question, along with more background on each answer — some with links to find out even more. After you take it, send the quiz on to friends who you think need to see it!

AND

FRONTLINE:The Battle over school choice

By BFKaJ

August 5, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

Dear Mrs. Godzilla @ 8:14, that did not take long. A quick trip down memory lane: By jbmlaw April 25, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this “We found that out from our brothers who fought the Americans in Somalia. They did not see it as a power worthy of any mention. It was the big propaganda that the United State used to terrify people before fighting them. Our brothers, who were here in Afghanistan, also tried the Americans. God gave them and the mujahidin success in Somalia and the United States pull out, trailing disappointment, defeat, and failure behind it. It achieved nothing. It left quicker than people had imagined.” (Full Text Of Interview With Al-Qaeda Leader Osama Bin Laden, 10/21/01) I believe that this war is lost…. I believe myself that the secretary of state (and) secretary of defense know this war is lost. - Harry Reid, 4/18/07 By jbmlaw April 25, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this “In his speech Monday, Mr. Reid claimed that “nothing has changed” since the surge began taking effect in February. It’s true that the car bombings and U.S. casualties continue, and may increase. But such an enemy counterattack was to be expected, aimed as it is directly at the Democrats in Washington. The real test of the surge is whether it can secure enough of the population to win their cooperation and gradually create fewer safe havens for the terrorists.” WSJ, April 25, 2007.

By Just Nasty and Mean

August 5, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

G’Mornin Jim, et al,

I agree that vouchers are a way, over the long term, to weed out the weak-sisters in the education system.

However, we seem to consistently be tinkering with the money aspects of the problems with education instead of the crux of the problem. The Washington D.C. school system, spending twice the national average per student as the rest of the nation—without result—- has proved time and again the problem is NOT money.

The problem is the heavy weight of bureaucrats in the school system. Either you have useless overhead producing NOTHING for the student, OR you have an over-involved, meddling, un-practical bureaucrat deciding the details of WHAT and HOW the teacher is to teach. They are TOO INVOLVED in the minutia of what goes on in the classroom.

We also have a cultural problem with discipline. The administration needs to back up the teachers—to the hilt—in disciplining students. If the students—or the parents—sense ANY weakness in enforcing the rules, they will exploit it and cause chaos for all. The school systems—all too often—“cave” when confronted.

And finally, under the “NO Child Left Behind” laws, we have turned many schools into institutions for the disables, many of whom will NEVER learn to understand-much less say—their own name. Taxpayers spend a wildly disproportionate amount on these special ed students. IT IS RIDICULOUS how much we spend on these kids compared to the average. Wouldn’t it make more sense to spend this money to help a kid learn geometry instead of dedicating an inordinate amount of money on dedicated nurses, interpretors, and specialized services for these cases.

Don’t get me wrong, special ed kids deserve EXACTLY the same amount of taxpayer funds and the next kid—-BUT NOTHING MORE!

By BFKaJ

August 5, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this

“Very well-known representatives of your society, such as George Kennan, say: We cannot apply moral criteria to politics. Thus we mix good and evil, right and wrong and make space for the absolute triumph of absolute Evil in the world. On the contrary, only moral criteria can help the West against communism’s well-planned world strategy. There are no other criteria… .

“In spite of the abundance of information, or maybe because of it, the West has difficulties in understanding reality such as it is. There have been naive predictions by some American experts who believed that Angola would become the Soviet Union’s Vietnam or that Cuban expeditions in Africa would best be stopped by special U.S. courtesy to Cuba. Kennan’s advice to his own country — to begin unilateral disarmament — belongs to the same category. If you only knew how the youngest of the Moscow Old Square officials laugh at your political wizards! As to Fidel Castro, he frankly scorns the United States, sending his troops to distant adventures from his country right next to yours.

“However, the most cruel mistake occurred with the failure to understand the Vietnam war. Some people sincerely wanted all wars to stop just as soon as possible; others believed that there should be room for national, or communist, self-determination in Vietnam, or in Cambodia, as we see today with particular clarity. But members of the U.S. antiwar movement wound up being involved in the betrayal of Far Eastern nations, in a genocide and in the suffering today imposed on 30 million people there. Do those convinced pacifists hear the moans coming from there? Do they understand their responsibility today? Or do they prefer not to hear? The American Intelligentsia lost its [nerve] and as a consequence thereof danger has come much closer to the United States. But there is no awareness of this. Your shortsighted politicians who signed the hasty Vietnam capitulation seemingly gave America a carefree breathing pause; however, a hundredfold Vietnam now looms over you. That small Vietnam had been a warning and an occasion to mobilize the nation’s courage. But if a full-fledged America suffered a real defeat from a small communist half-country, how can the West hope to stand firm in the future?” Alexander Solzhenitsyn speaking at Harvard in 1978

By Scrappy

August 5, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

Major problem with the voucher system is the increase in Traffic problems. Having a parent provide the transportation, which is further away, only adds to the already disgusting mess we call a commute.

By Bad S Mitten

August 5, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this

Andy, I asked you to leave the following mark to make it easy to scroll past your usual off-topic Republican whining and moaning:

EOF EOF EOF EOF EOF EOF EOF EOF EOF EOF

Instead, you decide to mark it, again, like a dog. I’ve never heard a Democrat whine and moan and cry about every little thing as much as you. I know that you did not like my choice of markings but you did not have to resort to staining the screen. After all, you did agree to mark the end of your dribble with your own special test pattern just one short day ago. I’ve attached your message below in case you have forgotten it already:

By AJC/DNC Management

August 4, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

IT has been a tough year for the high priests of global warming in the US. First, NASA had to correct its earlier claim that the hottest year on record in the contiguous US had been 1998, which seemed to prove that global warming was on the march. It was actually 1934. Then it turned out the world’s oceans have been growing steadily cooler, not hotter, since 2003. Meanwhile, the winter of 2007 was the coldest in the US in decades, after Al Gore warned us that we were about to see the end of winter as we know it.

Fear and ignorance, Hume concludes, are the true source of superstition. They lead a blind and terrified public to embrace any practice, however absurd or frivolous, which either folly or knavery recommends.

The knaves today, of course, are the would-be high priests of the global warming orthodoxy, with former US vice-president Gore as their supreme pontiff.

*GFY Polly GFY Polly GFY Polly GFY Polly GFY Polly *

That work?

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

BFJaj…..and your point would be?

POS (no pun intended) is a right wing polling firm and you respond with memories of war.

Got disconnect?

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this

Last week, Fox News ran a segment with retired Gen. Tommy Franks celebrating the opening of a KFC in Fallujah, Iraq. There’s just one problem: A KFC spokesman says the restaurant is a fake.

AND

A new book by the author Ron Suskind claims that the White House ordered the CIA to forge a back-dated, handwritten letter from the head of Iraqi intelligence to Saddam Hussein. Suskind writes in “The Way of the World,” to be published Tuesday, that the alleged forgery – adamantly denied by the White House – was designed to portray a false link between Hussein’s regime and al Qaeda as a justification for the Iraq war.

Got Lies and Liars?

By BFKaJ

August 5, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this

“The timid civilized world has found nothing with which to oppose the onslaught of a sudden revival of barefaced barbarity, other than concessions and smiles,” Solzhenitsyn warned in his acceptance speech for the 1970 Nobel literature prize. I wonder how Solzhenitsym would have viewed discussions with Iran, a small country that presents no risk to the US, without preconditions?

Solzhenitsyn warned of “an atmosphere of moral mediocrity, paralyzing man’s noblest impulses,” and a “tilt of freedom in the direction of evil … evidently born primarily out of a humanistic and benevolent concept according to which there is no evil inherent to human nature.” His own prison-camp experience after World War II told him evil was all too real and had to be confronted.

By BFKaJ

August 5, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

Dear Mrs. Godzilla @ 8:40, I always suspected a squirrel, flattened by a steam roller, would ask, “… and your point would be.” We don’t expect the squirrel to understand.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

McCain also criticized Congress for adjourning for a five-week recess without approving a new energy plan. “Tell em’ to come back and get to work,” McCain said, yelling into the microphone. “When I’m president of the United States, I’m not going to let them go on vacation

As of today, Obama has missed slightly fewer than 40 percent of his Senate votes since the beginning of 2007, while Clinton’s absentee rate is just under 30 percent.

But McCain has topped both candidates, missing a staggering 58 percent of his votes during the 110th Congress, according to the Washington Post’s congressional votes database.

To put this in perspective, McCain has now missed more votes than Sen. Tim Johnson of South Dakota, who suffered a brain hemorrhage in December 2006 and was unable to return to the Senate until fall of last year. McCain has now missed nine votes more than Johnson.

Got incongruity?

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

BFKaJ

OH! MY! You are so witty! And gracious! Mr. Sunshine this morning!

Again? Your point?

I am not afraid to admit that I see no connection between my 8:14 and your 8:22. Are you afraid to point it out?

Please enlighten me.

Enlighten all of us!

Oh please share your wisdom!

(Gee whiz, some folks are sooooo touchy!)

By Bad S Mitten

August 5, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

I see that economic illiterate, jbwhatever, is up to his usual ranting today. He’s such a child. Run off and play with your toy like a good boy. And remember to inflate your ego a little more while you are at it. You’ll be sure to get better mileage out of that hot air that you run on. Just insert hose and inflate yourself to about 150 psig. Don’t forget to use that McCain pressure gage to check yourself. You don’t want to get an overly swelled head. The end result would be, well, messy.

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this

Anybody that puts their hopes and dreams in government, especially when it comes to letting the government have control of their children’s education should watch this video.

Was America’s Mother-in-Law trying to do an Abbot and Costello routine?

By Ga Values

August 5, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

I as an outsider have actually tried to improve Public Schools.. 1. A company I owned adopted an Atlanta all black middle school. At the time I had 5 Morehouse Men working for me & planned to use them as mentors. Since they all came from upper middle income families they related to the students even worse than I did. Every improvement we tried to make in the school was opposed by the central office & after 2 years of trying we gave up. I know several small business in Atlanta who have had the same problem. 2.After seeing test scores in my local school system, I tried again but this time the goal was to get accurate information to the school board for decision making. After 6 months I gave up, their books & systems were so bad they could only be fixed by replacing the accounting systems & staff. That was not going to happen because the school superintendent wanted to control the data gavin to the school board… If I was going to start fixing the school system, my first step would be to fire 1/2 of the administration, all they do is make work for the teachers & waste money.

By Corey

August 5, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

Ther is no such thing as a failing school. We have failing communities and complacent parents that prodeuce students who don’t value learning. Often in these communities education is an after- thought, and bling is the priority. Take kids from, let’s say Gwinnett and place them in Atlanta schools, and Atlanta schools will be referred to as good schools. Likewise, take kids from Atlanta and place them in Gwinnett schools, and the schools will be considered bad schools. We fail to realize that the performance of the students contributes to a school’s overall ranking. Colleges that recruit the brightest students are considered great colleges. Let’s stop using the phrase failing schools and start referring to the students, parents and communities as failing. A teacher with a class of A students is not a great teacher. That teacher is blessed to have high achievers. A great teacher is a teacher who takes a class of C and D students and bring the majority of them up to A and B students.

By Ga Values

August 5, 2008 9:12 AM | Link to this

After my adventures in working with public education, I exercised my own school voucher program & sent only child to privite school. The state of Georgia is spending enough money for ALL childeren to get a 1st class education but most is just being wasted. The AJC should do a few stories on the Augusta School System to see what a real mess can be made.

By Copyleft

August 5, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

Wooten is right—it’s time to turn the cornerstones of our democracy over to the FREE MARKET! After all, if a child is born to poor parents who can only afford a poor-quality education, he has only himself to blame. He should’ve been born to upper-class folks who could provide him with a better education in the marketplace.

Remember, people are poor by CHOICE, and their kids should suffer for it! Money = virtue; it’s right there in the Constitution!

By Rednecik Convert

August 5, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Well, I’m with this guy that wants to let parents decide where to send their kids to school. If we had that, the poor parents that send their kids to good Christian private schools would get a break. And the dummies could stay in public schools. After awhile, we could keep taking money away from public schools till they just vamoosed. We could go back to the way God intended. If God wanted you to have a education you would be borned with a little diploma in your hand.

I ain’t much for education. Everybody knows I didn’t make it out of the 5th grade. Danged multiplying tables. But if we are going to have education it ought to be run like WalMart. Just run the kids thru the front door and when they come out they are all smart and such. We just waste too much money on the dummies that need all the special programs. I say kick them out and teach them how to sweep floors. Keep the smart ones that understand NASCAR and such and run them thru the mill. At the end they get a diploma and we are done with them. GA will have the smartest kids in the world.

Anyhow, somebody has to do something to help the parents that are paying 15,000 bucks a year so their kids will learn the Bible and about Noah and such. They can’t hardly make the payments on the fambly Lexus with that kind of outlay. So let’s go back to good Republican values. Give the kids with money a fine education and kick the rest of the trash out of school. Whatever you do, don’t raise my taxes.

Have a good day everybody.

By SaveOurRepublic

August 5, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

There’s no one definitive answer/solution, but the fact remains that government schools (controlled by the Globalist Elite funded NEA) are failing (largely by design). In order to subvert America’s “Superpower” status and diminish us to a 3rd world nation (for quicker implementation of the North American Union/SPP & ultimately a One World Government), the Elite has long targeted educational standards & curriculum. Government schools have watered down standards, distorted or censored the teaching of history and implemented a socialist agenda. It’s indeed part of the larger picture, and the symptoms in government schools prove that. The bar continues to be lowered.

In addition to “Crapitol sHill’s” lack of passing school vouchers, we also see the incessant hostility towards home schooling. At every turn the NEA lobby tries to minimize the legitimacy & effectiveness of home schooling. The NEA enjoys having the “market cornered”, and school choice (vouchers, home schooling) are a direct threat to that control. Like so many supposedly “powerful” DC lobby groups, the Globalist Elite controls/funds the NEA, and thus their agenda continues onwards and (likewise) American educational standards continue downwards!

http://www.newswithviews.com

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

School vouchers haven’t had any luck at all lately. Voters in Utah, expected to be rather conservative, overwhelmingly rejected a statewide ballot referendum on vouchers last November. The president touted a voucher plan in his State of the Union address, which was DOA in Congress. A study of the Milwaukee system found that students who receive vouchers to go to private schools don’t do any better academically than those “stuck” in public schools….The voucher system in the District of Columbia — created by congressional Republicans to be the first-ever federally-funded voucher program — has had it especially rough. Last fall we learned that after Congress handed over tax dollars to unregulated private schools without conditions, lawmakers ended up financing unaccredited schools, “unsuitable learning environments,” schools with no operating permits, and schools where teachers didn’t even have bachelor’s degrees. Worse yet, a report from the administration released a month ago found that students in DC who received vouchers didn’t do any better academically, either……

By Bad S Mitten

August 5, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Ga Values, the Republican mantra since they took office has been for less government but all they have given us is more government, year after year. Even with the economy going down, the Republicans moan and groan about their loss of revenues and how they are going to get more from the taxpayers when they should be looking at cutting their exorbitant spending. Even our local (county-level) Republicans were moaning and groaning about the big increase in health insurance costs for themselves while the taxpayers, rightfully, should be the ones moaning about not even having the luxury of health insurance. That’s a real-life example of the fallacy of so-called Republican “leadership” — they put themselves above their constituency. They are a disgrace.

By george hussein washington

August 5, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Cut my property taxes….stop taxing me to pay for substandard schools, lazy teachers, and stupid students….no more free public education paid for by ME….

By Wxyz

August 5, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this

If that’s no child left behind then no child left behind is an-a*. (paper chase, 1978)

We flame trolls the old fashioned way. We BURN them.

By Wilton Walton

August 5, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

You’re dead-on right, Jim! Public education is too important to our country to let it become just another bureacracy. There just HAS to be a measure of accountability. If students are given a legitimate choice, you’ll see just how quickly the entrenched school systems will change for the better. It’ll work. Congratulations on the column.

By Matilda

August 5, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

I think SaveOurRepublic is HALF right. Government schools have been encouraged to fail, “largely by design,” but not by the mysterious socialist elite he blames. Schools and the profession of teaching have been consistently under-funded and under-respected for decades. Without respect and pay, “standards” naturally decline. Note how the right-wingers consistently tout the good old days, then in the next breath, sneer at the “liberal elite” for being, um… what’s the word? EDUCATED. And for thinking critically and analyzing data instead of drinking in what they’re told and regurgitating it to others. The NCLB initiative is all about testing, and of course, paying test companies (Neil Bush, anyone?) to “help” our students “achieve.” Except that repitition and regurgitation are not achievement.

Learning to think critically and solve problems as they arise is achievement derided as “liberal thinking” by those who’d prefer the ignorant stay ignorant, blame whom they’re instructed to blame, and vote as they’re told. By withholding funding, attention, and respect from the institutions of public education, they can then turn around and say, “SEE? Told you it doesn’t work!” Who’s more ignorant of math, science, geography, language, and critical thinking than the average American high-school dropout, or c-student graduate? “Do what you’re told, people, because you don’t have the first clue.” This isn’t socialism; ignorance and fear form the foundation for fascism, enhanced by the idea that only a few really deserve, or are capable of providing, quality education. A truly educated populace wouldn’t stand for it.

By Off Topic

August 5, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

Troll this, liberal wingnut moonbat troll trash…

Yesterday some fecal-brained liberal moonbat neo-comm (that’s a mild way of saying SH!T FOR BRAINED LIBERAL DEMOCRAT) claimed that if Conservatives had their way, they wouldn’t spend or give a single dime away in this nation. Question:

Why are you fecal-brained liberal moonbat neo-comms such consistent PATHOLOGICAL LIARS???

Read it at weep, lying sacks of feces.

By T

August 5, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

By Copyleft

Lol, thanks for the morning laugh. Don’t forget that it is also their fault if they have learning disabilities.

Voucher programs might have been a good idea made into a bad one. Maybe if it took good students out of poor schools, it would cause these schools to rethink their way of educating students.
That being said high achieving students can come out of poor preforming schools. As By Corey stated the problem lies in the hands of noncommited parents and communities. Throw a lot of money at something without accurate checks and balances and corruption will thrive.

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Mrs G.,

Using the argument that people educated in government schools voted to keep educating people in government schools, like your carpetbagger link, is actually a good argument to end government schooling.

By Dennis

August 5, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten writes, “Full funding. Determine what it should cost to produce an educated child and how that cost should be shared by parents and state and local governments. “It should be a simple formula,” he said. “There should be no excuses.”

Mr. Wooten, it has already been determined FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS that this country/state is not going to dig down into its pockets and pay for what it wants.

Your, yourself, have blamed “sorry teachers” for the state of public education.

But if you really want to “fully fund” public education, be forewarned that there will be no tax breaks for the already rich nor the corporations.

You write, ““And pay [teachers] based on degrees, experience and placement, with significant bonuses for improved outcomes.”

Teachers are already paid on degrees and experience. Having read some of your previous rants what you mean by “placement” is that math and science teachers ought to be paid more than other teachers.

That all depends on where your values are, Mr. Wooten.

For example, I think history is just as important as math or science. In fact, if we would teach the real history of the U.S. empire, the American people would be demonstrating in the streets against their own corporate controlled government

(It’s another subject, but isn’t that why George W. Bush has implemented the ideas of John W. Poindexter so much - because our corporate controlled government fears the American people)?

As to the bonuses for improvement, I’ve asked you before, if a teacher with gifted students raises the student test scores by fifteen points, and the teacher with retarded students raises their test scores by seven points, who gets the bonus?

You write, “Maintain discipline. Let teachers remove those who disrupt learning for others. Back them in court, if necessary.”

Where have you been, Mr. Wooten? “Sorry teachers” have been screaming for better discipline for years! And if you remove these bad behaving kids, what are you going to do with them? And the courts don’t want or have time to fool with these “cases”.

What is the main purpose of schools, Mr. Wooten,

1) to turn out students for the purpose of conforming and serving society, or,

2) to turn out students who are capable of not conforming and able to think outside of the box?

It’s sad, Mr. Wooten, but those of you who have visions of improving education only see that improvement as a means of increasing profits for corporations.

For you folks, the “fine arts” in public education are a waste of money.

What you, the politicians, the corporations want is social conformity.

And you do not want to see or consider the students as individuals with differing abilities.

(I’m going to be nice, today, Mr. Wooten, and leave off my usual closing).

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

BRAVO MATILDA

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

For most of us this is good news, but what’s the difference between her and Obama’s good buddies William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn?

By BFKaJ

August 5, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Dear Mrs. Squirrel @ 8:56, “I am unlikely to return to the blog today unless the moonbats start posting nonsense about Iraq.” “NY Post, Fox News touted flawed GOP poll to claim “America Says Let’s Win [Iraq] War” “Memory lane” thereafter reminded us of the al Qaeda strategy and why we call the democrats “useful idiots.” We follow that with the Solzhenitsyn quotes to help our leftist friends connect the dots.

By On Topic

August 5, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Look at Andy rant Off Topic. Isn’t he a hoot and so cute when his veins bulge like that. Try not to blow a gasket too early. Give a hoot — don’t pollute.

By six/foot/six

August 5, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

@ Bud Wiser August 5, 2008 8:09 AM

Corruption is rampant across the board my friend, for every instance you can point out of blacks in elected offices doing corrupt things I can give you three examples of whites to your one for a counterpoint. As far as the left-wing smear campaign going into full throttle, why its due time because the GOP has already started their smear campaign about two weeks ago, and McLovens jump in the polls I would attribute to the recent ads the McMassah aka McLoven aka McCain camp put out recently. Obama has not really unleashed his hounds as of yet (although I think he should) and point out to the world the glaring shortcomings of McCain. But that would be lowering himself to McCain’s level because as we all know McCain has no stance on the issues; his whole campaign is relied upon trying to undercut Obama using subliminal smear ads, outright lies, and playing on “you peoples” deepest innermost primordial fears. Even “you people” don’t like McCain, you’re not voting for McCain because even you can see the flaws in that ugly little shell of a man, you’re really just voting against Obama more than anything. One poll came out and it had McCain in the lead (barely) and you and the whole staff of Fox News are about to throw a ticker tape parade down Broadway, while we have a full three months of campaigning left to do and I cant wait until the one-on-one debates start when we can see the two standing side by side and America will see McCain for the flip flopping, non-eloquent, ugly little troll he is who has no real stance on any issues, just the inverse to whatever Obama says.

@Corey August 5, 2008 9:07 AM

Before you talk about anyone’s failing schools/ students/ communities you should take a look in the mirror and ask yourself how in the heck do you misspell a measly two syllable word (it’s PRODUCE you inbred yokel) and in the same breath talk about communities that don’t value learning. I see from the grammatical errors in your post the community you grew up in didn’t value learning either. Your probably didn’t go to school past the 8th grade just like the rest of these moonshine drinking, NASCAR watching, inbred rednecks in this state.

By zeke

August 5, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

Bold, visonary and accurate! We also need to pattern our schools after the Japanese system. Children go to school from 8AM until 5PM six days a week! They are put into a culture, or, mindset that educating themselves is their job, their duty, their responsibility! Strict discipline must be enforced in every classroom and at every school, no caveates, no exceptions and no ability of parents to sue to keep little thug Johnny or Judy in school! The next thing is the areas of study and courses. I have a friend from Japan who came here for college. I asked him if he and his wife had any children. He said no, but, when they do they are moving back to Japan. Why I asked? The schools he said. He was amazed at college here that science subjects that students thought were so hard and so difficult, HE STUDIED IN MIDDLE SCHOOL! THAT IS OUR PROBLEM WITH EDUCATION! WE DO NOT CHALLENGE STUDENTS TO DO THEIR BEST, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO COULD BE RATED AS GIFTED AND TALENTED ACADEMICALLY! INSTEAD OUR SYSTEM PRMOTES THE IDEA OF ALL BEING THE SAME, DOWNGRADING TO THE LESS TALENTED INSTEAD OF UPGRADING TO THE MORE TALENTED! FOR THIS WE CAN THANK THE TEACHERS UNIONS AND THEIR COUNTERPARTS IN GOVERNMENT! THIS ALL NEEDS TO CHANGE!!

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this

BFKaJ

Thank you for your kind response!

By BFKaJ

August 5, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

Dear Mrs. Squirrel @ 8:56, “NY Post, Fox News touted flawed GOP poll to claim “America Says Let’s Win [Iraq] War” I am unlikely to return to the blog today unless the moonbats start posting nonsense about Iraq. Memory lane thereafter reminded us of the al Qaeda strategy and why we call the democrats “useful idiots.”

Dear Mitten @ 8:57, since you recounted all of the silly democrat arguments on oil in a single post I will not have to remind everyone how insistently foolish the leftists remain.

Dear Ga Values @ 9:02, I admire your wisdom, born from adverse experience. Henceforth I will include you in my list of education reformers (heretofore only Glenn, @@, and MidSouth) to whose judgment I yield.

Dear Corey @ 9:07, wow, tough love there. I think you are spot on. Our younger son, genius that he was, languished amidst mediocrity until we relocated to Duluth. There, challenged intellectually by the best and brightest of his generation, and with guidance of a few really good teachers, he blossomed. You are right to affirm – ready for the punch line? - that sometimes it helps to have a village.

By hillbilly ragger

August 5, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this

Shorter Jim:

“I attended this wingnut conference over the weekend and finally got around to posting something about it. No links to the studies I heard about, nor is there a transcript of this speech I thought was so great, but trust me, these people know what they’re talking about!”

By WFC

August 5, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

Most of the comments on this blog make me cringe for the future of democracy.

By GeraldBall

August 5, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this

This is absurd right wing propaganda. School choice already exists, OK? It is called PRIVATE SCHOOL. Most private schools cost no more than daycare, which means that most people can afford them if they are willing to give up the his and her SUV and the 1000 extra square feet in their home that they don’t need. And guess what? The more people put their kids in private schools the cheaper they become! Now of course, there are a lot of truly needy people out there - folks on public assistance as well as the working poor - but since most private schools are CHRISTIAN anyway, well the Christians in this nation could actually start doing what Jesus Christ preached and raise the money required to cover the educational costs for the poor. For so - called conservatives to be advocating THE GOVERNMENT to facilitate lifestyle choices that people are perfectly capable of making their on their own actually greatly increases the effect that government has on people’s lives, and makes our society more dependent on it. Instead of waiting on the government to provide school choice, which A) the government has no interest in doing and B) if they did, the government would simply offer most people (all but the upperclass who quite frankly don’t need public schools or any other government services to begin with) a bunch of “choices” that range from bad to worse. Why? Because wherever government money goes, regulations are sure to follow.

But the biggest scam is Wooten’s claiming that vouchers constitutes real education reform. Please. We will still be stuck with the same system based on a 180 day calendar (because children were needed to work on farms during the summer!) that was designed to produce semi - skilled workers for the early 20th century economy; a long bygone culture where fellow would get the wife, the factory job, and the house that he would keep for 40 years not long after graduating high school. What few “advances” that have been made since then have mostly been failed experiments with Marxism (including the reforms of the very influential but seldom discussed John Dewey) and things designed to serve the interests of the exceedingly tiny percentage of the population that attends a competitive or selective college.

As a matter of fact, that is probably the biggest problem with public schools right now: its politics are driven not by the need to provide a solid education to the largest possible amount of people, but rather the whole system is held captive by a tiny percentage of high income people who believe that it is the job of the state to facilitate their child’s admittance into Georgia Tech or Duke. It is appalling that a school district brags about the FEW DOZEN kids that they send a year to Ivy League schools when HUNDREDS of products of that same system are functionally illiterate! Now I am not blaming the schools and teachers for the failures of parents and students who do not value education or discipline, but if we are going to be spending hundreds of billions of taxpayer money on our public schools a year, the focus should be on functional literacy and vocational training for the many, not prepping Biff and Buffy for Harvard and Princeton, or for that matter Emory and Agnes Scott. If you want all of these AP courses, magnet programs, state of the art laboratories, and athletics facilities (seriously lots of public schools are better equipped THAN MANY COLLEGES) then go to a private school and get it. As it is, we have a totally insane situation where within the same metro area one school will have a movie studio and sound stage for its drama/theatre department AND indoor practice facilities for the tennis/golf/gymnastics/swim teams and another school will have broken windows, lead paint, asbestos, textbook shortages, and semi - literate teachers.

Real school reform should focus on A) changing the model from one designed to educate the America of the 1930s and B) moving the political focus on the 3% that will get into a selective university to the 70% that won’t go to college at all! Unfortunately, neither party or the alleged “conservative” or “liberal” political movements behind them will advocate that sort of real change. Why? Because both have ideological and political motivations for keeping things just as they are! That is why real change is going to have to come from people standing up and voting with their feet.

By Preston

August 5, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Every child has the God given right to be educated. When a parent has to make a choice to send their child to a private school rather than a public school, simply because the public schools are failing our children, our society and our country, that is a problem. I agree with school vouchers and this is an initiative that needs to be placed on the ballot. Let the public decide and not the egotistical school officials who would rather save their hefty salaries than save our children.

By Concerned Citizen

August 5, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

By Corey August 5, 2008 9:07 AM A great teacher is a teacher who takes a class of C and D students and bring the majority of them up to A and B

Corey, common sense is not allowed on this blog.

By BFKaJ

August 5, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

Dear Mrs. Godzilla @ 10:08, I owe you an apology. Through the magic of cut and paste, and due to my negligent editing and review, my magnanimous words of kindness for you turned into a public insult. You were supposed to read, “Blog on, the challenge is our purpose here.” For the insult, I apologize.

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Oddly, although Obama’s proposal shows he recognizes the impact of supply on prices, he remains hesitant about lifting the congressional ban on off-shore drilling. Credit Obama for moving slightly away from the hard-line no drilling position of the Democratic congressional leadership by saying he’d consider “limited” coastal drilling if it were packaged with big increases in government subsidies for alternative energy development.

But at the same time, he proposed taking away any incentive oil companies would have to expand drilling and increase supplies by pushing a windfall tax on Big Oil’s profits to fund the $1,000 rebate checks.

Perhaps the senator is hoping the checks will make Americans forget, as he apparently has, about what happened when Presidents Nixon, Ford and Carter played the price and profit limiting game the 1970s.

As the pay-off for oil exploration dwindled, so did oil supplies, driving up fuel prices and creating long lines at the pump. There’s no reason to think Obama would be any more successful in executing this dubious redistribution strategy.

His plan also would give the state-owned oil companies in places like Saudi Arabia and Venezuela a huge advantage over domestic companies, since they’d be beyond the reach of Obama’s profits grab.

Polly,

If you copy and paste the above to yourself it will no longer be in italics.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

RW…

Perhaps we should have a look at some of McCains “good buddies” as you put it!

How about that Keating 5 Bunch?

Let’s not forget Rick Renzi?

Oh, my Tom Delay?

(Not to mention Cheney, Bush, Ashcroft, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, et al)

John Hagee?

Jack Abramoff?

Rod Parsley?

Tom Loeffler?

Charlie Black?

Doug Davenport?

Doug Goodyear?

“Foreclosure” Phil Gramm?

Terry Nelson?

Trent Lott?

Ken Blackwell?

Richard Quinn?

Bob Perry?

Richard Land?

The Wyly Brothers?

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this

BFKaJ

Apology accepted!

Thank you!

By gafarmer

August 5, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

Zeke@10:05 is correct, kids need to be challenged. They enjoy it. Ever watch a six year old try to program a cell phone? Ever watch a two year old try to read the comics?

Most kids are expected to be average by their parents, just need to pass. The parents who expect their kids to excell and plant a desire to learn at an early age, 2 or 3 not 6 or 7, are most often rewarded with “exceptional” children.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

RW

Thanks for quoting the Detroit News OP ED Page…..wonder who wrote it and what their area of expertise is?

Here’s Paul Krugman’s (Professor of Economics and International Affairs at Princeton)take on the Obama plan:

“Now that’s more like it — a hard-hitting political speech with a solid policy proposal behind it. “

Short and to the point!

There is a nifty little website

econ4obama

might be worth your while to take a peak!

By Concerned Citizen

August 5, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

By WFC August 5, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this Most of the comments on this blog make me cringe for the future of democracy.

Bravo! Most (not all) posters on this blog leave nothing to the imagination regarding their upbringing.

By Bad S Mitten

August 5, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Dear jbwhatever,

Someone needs to fill the role of providing a retort of equivalent educational value to those sweet nothings that you so love to provide to your Republican fans. After all, it’s not like responding in kind to your dribble requires effort and I certainly would not waste my true talents on one with such obvious shortcomings. Indeed, you are simply one of many little toys that I keep around until you no longer provide a chuckle. Now, go ahead and “make my day” by saying something “smart”. I’ll be waiting. Just kidding. I won’t really be waiting for THAT moment — life’s too short. I know that waiting for that something “smart” is analogous to waiting for the computer program to spit out the exact value for Pi.

There. Now do you start to “see’, by example, how to provide at least a seemingly intellectual retort. Your turn. Try again.

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

sure Mrs. G,

Let’s do that.

Viewed in a national security context, the Frank Marshall Davis scandal is far more serious than Obama and his wife and children hearing Jeremiah Wright’s anti-American and anti-white sermons. Indeed, the Davis influence on Obama may help explain why Obama would attend Wright’s church, take his children there, and be receptive to his message for many years. It also may explain why Obama would admittedly attend socialist conferences and pick Marxist professors as friends in college before launching his political career in the home of communist terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.

By Just Nasty and Mean

August 5, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

I don’t owe special needs kids—-or the stupid ones—any more than the bright and motivated ones.

If you want to know the truth, I don’t owe anybody anything (other than my father/mother) but since we are STUCK with this system, EVERY KID should receive the EXACT same amount of taxpayer funds.

If the standard school curriculum doesn’t provide what is needed for your special requirements (autistic, dumb, brain damaged, discipline, ROTC, jock sniffer, whatever), then take your voucher and GO SOMEWHERE ELSE (transportation at YOUR OWN EXPENSE!).

By Ich bin ein Beginner

August 5, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

“Krugman was one of many economists to serve as a consultant for an advisory board for Enron; he did this in 1999…”

Just what we need: An economist from Enron supplied by Obama.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

RW

I’M SHOCKED AND APPALLED!

High School and College Student listens to a COMMIE!!!! OH NO!!! HIDE THE CHILDREN!!!! HIDE OUR WOMEN!!!

TRYING TO UNDERSTAND other peoples opinions! TREASON!

Y’all are just too funny.

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

Enron’s own Paul Krugman?

Good golly Miss Molly

By Bad S Mitten

August 5, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

That’s a cool attitude you’ve got there, Just Nasty and Mean. Did those feelings get started as a result of some bully in the Georgia school system picking on you in grade school. His name wasn’t jbwhatever, was it. You should not have held in those feelings for so long. You’ve really blown a gasket, much like Off Topic did earlier. By the way, how do you feel about advanced placement and similar programs. All of those kids that are not be adequately challenged or that have already demonstrated an advanced capability are taking up resources that could be better applied to something of more value like grade-school football scholarships.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

RW

Why not go back to McCains energy policy?

Now that is funny!

How about we talk about McCain’s support for the Bush tax cuts?

That’s got Americans rolling in the aisles!

How about talking about McCains pompous, arrogant claim the he “knows how to win wars” - the funny part there is that he kept it a secret in both wars he’s famous for!!

That makes everybody guffaw!

How ‘bout that promise to balance the budget in his first term!

Economist are whooping it up over that!!!!

OH I FORGOT - RW, you have stated repeatedly that you would never vote for John McCain…..so you’re just playing around anyway….you don’t have a dog in this fight….unless you have been lying?

Naw, not you!

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G.,

Why do you suppose Obambi only listed him as Frank when he extolled the virtues of his communist mentor in his first autobiography?

For that matter, how arrogant is someone that just turned 47 and already has two autobiographies?

By Wxyz

August 5, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

Hey Everybody! The only way I could keep RW and corporal glennduhng from being read by anyone but themselves and their p-hole trolls was to make sure they kept using italics. And they fell for it! What a couple of fall guys, what a couple of maroons!! Bwa!

Hey, Duhng, stop using italics, moron, I cant read them. I’m a FABB4Eyes, you know, fat aging baby boomer with glasses, hey, that’s as close as I’m getting to the beatles. None of us can read your comments, which I’m sure are great and advance the discussion.

Seems a shame. (snickle, mmmphhhh)

By AmVet

August 5, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G,

Joe McCarthy is still very alive and well in the Republican Party…

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

“”Krugman is bemoaning the shenanigans, and not the structure which enabled Enron to hide them. After all, there are many investment banks out there who make quite a lot of money doing what Enron did: trading energy. The fact that they’re out there doing that helps to make the energy market more efficient, and benefits society. What Krugman is bemoaning is the fact that Enron used its political connections to push through various bits of legislation designed to give it an advantage over the banks. Enron, uniquely among energy traders, was pretty much exempt from regulatory oversight. That’s what caused the shenanigans, not Enron’s “post-corporate free-wheeling e-economy.”

Just like charities, companies suffer if they’re not held accountable for their actions. Enron hid lots of nasty balance-sheet nuclear waste where Wall Street couldn’t see it, and saw its stock soar as a consequence. Give me “hundreds of casually dressed men and women staring at computer screens and barking into telephones” any day: just ensure that I know when they’re making money and when they’re losing it.

For the ironic thing about Enron was that it wan’t the off-balance-sheet losses which brought it down. Those were large, but still relatively small in relation to the size of the company as a whole. What caused the collapse of Enron was that no one would trade with it any more when the losses were made public. No trading entity can make money unless it has rock-solid counterparty risk, and when Enron’s secretiveness came to light, no one had any faith in that any more. It wasn’t a loss of money which killed Enron, it was a loss of trust.”“

Yep Krugman was on an advisory board at Enron in 1999…..

wanna show me where it says the enron gailure was his fault?

did he hold a gun to Ken Lay or Skillings head?

most likely not…..

OH WAIT…. DO WE REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT ENRON…..FORECLOSURE PHIL GRAMM AND JOHN McCAIN?

By Wxyz

August 5, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this

I wonder if Skip Caray is interviewing Lou Gehrig in heaven right now? Having Skip around for so many years makes me feel like the luckiest fan (fan fan) on the face (face face) of the earth (earth earth).

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

RW….

To answer your question, I don’t know. I suspect it was to allow wingnutia to spin fantasies….

Just what is it that “arrogant” is code for?

By FRANKLEEDARLING

August 5, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

The real problem with education?

stupid people are breeding at an alarming rate these days!

Don’t believe me? just go to wal-mart sometime.

By FRANKLEEDARLING

August 5, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

The real problem with education?

stupid people are breeding at an alarming rate these days!

Don’t believe me? just go to wal-mart sometime.

By Common Sense

August 5, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

Can the AJC stop allowing Bud-Stupid and Mean and dumb from posting.

Their daily posts continue to add anthing to the real problem.

First vouchers programs will not work, parents need to have the buts at work on time. No excuses.

The most important aspect of bad public school systems is the top management.

We have to changed the system and the top managers who do not know how to manage.

You fire the CEO if he or she runs the company in the ground. We must start firing top adminstrators with not buy-out package. This is the most insane part about capitolism CEO’s still get paid for producing terrible results.

What we are seeing is a failure of board members to hire qualified candidates and the prevention of cronyism.

Their should be seperate hiring agencies for each position.

By Wxyz

August 5, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

Despite the report in Furman Bisher’s column, Skip Caray did not die in his sleep, but rather in his back yard feeding the orioles, cardinals and bluejays….

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this

We know what kind of campaign they’re going to run. They’re going to try to make you afraid. They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?—Barack O’McCarthy

The Republican Party indeed. Hey Amvet, have you checked out the Texas Rangers results since that fateful day that you declared them the worst team in baseball?

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Mrs. G.,

I have indeed said I won’t vote for John McCain and I never lie.

That doesn’t mean I have no interest in the election.

It’s my feeling that the country will be better off in the long run if Obumbler gets elected and kills off liberalism once and for all, but the short term consequences are indeed serious. It might be better for McBushie to get in and let Hillary start destroying liberalism in 2012.

By Peter

August 5, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

Come on now folks, since WHEN has a Republican even cared about education for the masses?

Bush has a Program………All American Children Left Behind ! Please can we cut the education budget yet again…….. don’t we need more bombs ?

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

Mrs. G.,

Your government education is showing.

Dictionary: arrogant (ăr’ə-gənt) pronunciation

adj.

By SaveOurRepublic

August 5, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Matilda, I suggest you do some further research on NEA funding. Note the “contributions” from the Rockefeller & Ford Foundations. Who do you think runs those billion dollar foundations?…the Globalist Elite. The same Elite who founded the Central/International Banking cartel & controls the pawns on “Crapitol sHill” (save for patriots like Ron Paul)? Simply follow the money trail…from corporation & Foundation grants & contributions (looking at who sits on the BOD & are majority shareholders for those Corporations, etc.) . The Elite have long had their tentacles in the many aspects of government education.

BTW, the “Right vs. Left” paradigm is a smokescreen propagated to deceive the populace into thinking they have a real choice between controlled coin side A (GOP) & side B (DNC). This illusion of choice is one the Elite’s best weapons to distract the populace from the continued implementation of their agenda!

http://www.prisonplanet.com

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this

Where the heck did my last snarkasm go?

Dictionary: arrogant (ăr’ə-gənt) pronunciation

adj.

By AJC/DNC Management

August 5, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

STURGIS, S.D. - Thousands of motorcyclists greeted Republican presidential candidate John McCain with an approving roar Monday as he sought blue-collar and heartland support by visiting a giant motorcycle rally.

“As you may know, not long ago a couple hundred thousand Berliners made a lot of noise for my opponent. I’ll take the roar of 50,000 Harleys any day,” McCain said, referring to Democrat Barack Obama’s recent visit to the German capital.

Bwa.

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

Never mind, there ^^^ it is.

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Poll driven moonbats should NOT click on this link

By AJC/DNC Management

August 5, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

*FLASH 8/5/08 11:31:52 AM ET: Presidential debate moderators: Jim Leherer of PBS, Tom Brokaw of NBC, Gwen Ifill of PBS and Bob Scheiffer of CBS… Developing… *

Excellent.

This means McBushie can make the drive bys look foolish the same time he’s doing it to Lord High Dimwit, Thee Most Splendid.

Can you say Massacre?

By findog

August 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this

Full funding: how do you come up with transportation cost with a simple, one size fits all formula, for the densely and sparsely populated districts?

Maintain discipline: I would wager that if you did just that you would fix the majority of our educational institutional problems.

Provide public school choice: what you really doing is creating a method for systems to build super sports schools; which unfortunately is too much of an emphasis in Georgia.

Get rid of the state school superintendent and all local school boards and place those positions under the board of regents; that would establish a statewide system of management. No more wasted money on evolution stickers for biology books.

By AmVet

August 5, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this

RW, I am confused (nothing new there I suppose!) but how does Barry’s referencing his (half) blackness make him a McCarthyite?

I have indeed kept an eye on that Texas juggernaut, and by my calculations the Rangers are 49 - 40 since then. Which by Ranger standards is indeed PHENOMENAL!

Besides, a little, or in your case a LOT of fact checking would go a LONG way - I NEVER claimed they were the worst team in baseball, merely that they are hapless, poorly run and perennial cellar dwellers.

Parse that!

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

This one is moonbat safe and even holds some good news for you loons. It seems the government educated morons that make up the Dhimmicrat party votership thinks that Republicans are still in charge.

Politico confirms what many suspected, that the internal Democratic “debate” on drilling is really just a puppet show starring Pelosi as the bad guy and Dems like Jason Altmire with tough re-election bids as glorious pro-drilling heroes pleading with their leadership for action. (“Democratic House aides say the energy agenda has been carefully gamed out in strategy sessions…”) The point, of course, is to protect the current majority and stall until the election, when they’re bound to pick up seats and can use their new leverage next year to water down any GOP drilling proposals even further than they might now. In other words, they’re running out the clock — on the public, which overwhelmingly supports action in this area and is going to get much less of it if Pelosi’s strategy works.

By Corey

August 5, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

On Topic, I only got about one hour of sleep last night.

By FRANKLEEDARLING

August 5, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

The good thing is the cons have already destroyed conservatism once and for all hopefully

By Corey

August 5, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

On Topic, I only got about one hour of sleep last night. A hurt dog will holler.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

RW

Sorry to have to correct you….I was educated by BVM’s and members of the SoJ.

That’s why I never wear black patent leather shoes…..

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this

AmVet,

It isn’t the reference to his blackness, it’s the unfounded accusation that some unnamed groups are a pack of racists that plan to attack him on that front. Kind of the definition of what is commonly refereed to as McCarthyism, except it turned out Tailgunner Joe was right so a new name should probably be used. How about Obumblism?

By Wxyz

August 5, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

I wonder if Skip Caray is interviewing Lou Gehrig in heaven right now? Having Skip around for so many years makes me feel like the luckiest fan (fan fan) on the face (face face) of the earth (earth earth).

Police say Skip Caray died at his backyard birdfeeder, feeding the orioles, the bluejays and the cardinals……

By FRANKLEEDARLING

August 5, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

Just say no to offshore drilling

oil addiction is a killer

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 12:23 PM | Link to this

Let’s get back to the issues…..

I know it’s not what Paris, Britney or McCain would do but Yes, we can do it.

Though conservatives have tried to force the House to adjourn “eighteen times over the past 90 days,” now that the House is actually adjourned, Republicans are using political stunts to demand that “the chamber be called back into session” for a vote on offshore oil drilling. The White House, however, rebuffed their efforts yesterday, saying they “don’t have plans to call Congress into session.”

Planned layoffs at U.S. companies jumped 26 percent from June to July, which is an indication of “further deterioration in the labor market.” In July, planned layoffs totaled 103,312, compared to 81,755 in June. “From January to July, planned layoffs totaled 579,260, up 33 percent from the same period a year ago.”

Neither President Bush nor Congress “has acted to appoint members to a commission intended to boost U.S. energy independence in the three years since Congress enacted a law establishing the panel.” During that time, “oil prices have more than doubled to $125 per barrel from $60, and the price of a gallon of gasoline has increased from about $2.25 to nearly $4.”

Suskind: White House Ordered Forged, Backdated Letter After Invasion To Concoct Saddam-9/11 Link

Fiorina: ‘McCain Has Consistently Said’ He Will ‘Balance The Budget By 2013′…..In reality, McCain and his campaign have been anything but consistent in his promise to balance the budget:February 15, 2008: At a campaign rally in Wisconsin, McCain “promised he’d offer a balanced budget by the end of his first term.” April 15, 2008: In a news conference, McCain said that because “economic conditions are reversed,” he “would have a balanced budget within eight years.”April 20, 2008: In an interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, McCain first claimed that he hadn’t abandoned his first term pledge, but when pressed, later said “we’re going to be on a path to a balanced budget” by the end of his first term. July 7, 2008: Releasing his Jobs for America plan, McCain pledged “once again to balance the budget by the end of his first term in 2013.” July 7, 2008: In a conference call with reporters, McCain’s top economic adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, said that “the senator has always pledged to balance the budget by the end of his second term.”Apparently Fiorina considers a “consistently” muddled message to be the same as having a consistent message. But as former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle said yesterday, the more McCain talks, “the less certain we are about any of the positions he’s taken.”

McCain Mocks Obama With Tire Gauges, But Agrees That Inflating Car Tires Properly Will Save Energy

Romney: ‘McCain Doesn’t Ask For Any Tax Reduction For Oil Companies’…There is nothing dishonest about pointing out the fact that McCain’s plan to cut the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 25 percent would give nearly $4 billion in tax breaks to the six largest oil companies. Ensuring that corporations pay dramatically fewer taxes is an integral part of McCain’s regressive tax plan that skews its benefits heavily toward the wealthy and offers little for the poor and middle class.

McCain Says He’d End His Vacation From Congress To ‘Drill Here, Drill Now’….His vacation from his elected duty has included some of the most important legislation considered by Congress:– 4/26/07: Iraq War funding (passed 51-46)– 6/7/07: Immigration reform (filibustered 34-61)– 6/11/07: Condemning Attorney General Alberto Gonzales (filibustered 53-38)– 7/26/07: Homeland Security (passed 85-8)– 8/3/07: Wiretapping (FISA) authorization (passed 60-28)– 9/27/07: Children’s health insurance (passed 69-30; vetoed)– 2/6/08: Stimulus package with support for renewable energy (filibustered by one vote) – 4/23/08: Fair Pay Act (filibustered 56-42)– 5/22/08: The 21st-Century GI Bill (passed 75-22)– 6/6/08: Global warming legislation (filibustered 48-36) Voteskipper McCain shirked votes supporting renewable tax credits four times this session, letting them be filibustered every time. Twice the bill was blocked by a single vote. In the past month alone, he missed every single energy vote brought to the floor. Sen. McCain stayed on the campaign trail while his conservative allies filibustered each proposal — on energy speculation, low-income heating bills, and renewable energy and energy efficiency incentives — and he drilled for cash from the oil industry.

McCain On HIV/AIDS Prevention: All Talk, No Action…..” Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), while promising to “work closely with non-profit, government, and private sector stakeholders to continue the fight against HIV/AIDS,” would likely continue neglecting America’s domestic AIDS epidemic:- Has not called for a national AIDS strategy: Even though the United States committed to developing a national AIDS strategy in 2001, it lacks a national plan. “In 2004, the Institute of Medicine determined that fragmentation of insurance coverage, and differing eligibility requirements and services across states, “do not allow for comprehensive and sustained access to quality HIV care,’ in the US.”- Did not support federal funding for syringe exchange: While McCain opposes lifting the ban on federal funding for syringe exchange programs, “eight federally funded research reports concluded that needle and syringe programs, as part of a comprehensive HIV prevention strategy, are an effective public health intervention that reduces HIV transmission without increasing the use of illicit drugs.”- Did not support the Early Treatment For HIV Act (ETHA): When confronted by HIV activists, McCain claimed to “look into” the issue. The act would expand “Medicaid to cover poor people who are living with HIV but are not diagnosed with AIDS.”As senator, McCain rarely supported initiatives to prevent new HIV infections. In 2007, McCain admitted that he has “never gotten into these issues or thought much about” the effectiveness of condoms in stopping sexually transmitted disease,” but regularly opposed expanding access to contraception.McCain “voted for a Jesse Helms strategy to cut off funding for prevention efforts aimed at the gay community” and “voted against HIV/AIDS programs, funding and research at least seven times.”

Alaska Governor Sarah Palin (R), occasionally rumored as a possible McCain VP, was surprisingly complimentary of Obama’s energy policy.

Joseph Romm described Obama’s energy policy as “easily the best energy plan ever put forward by a nominee of either party.”

Senator John McCain received a burst of donations in June from oil company employees after he came out in favor of offshore drilling, according to a report released last week by Campaign Money Watch, a watchdog organization.

By Corey

August 5, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

On Topic, the name calling is so juvenile. Forgive my grammatical errors; I only got about an hour of sleep last night. I’m hardly a yokel. Call me a fity-four year old black man who is fed up with the madness that we call today’s black culture. I’m one of those individuals who marched in the sixties for greater opportunities only to see chaos rein in our communities. I don’t have to be politically correct. People like you will do your darnest to silence Mr. Cosby et. al. by coddling and encouraging a learned state of helplessness. Have a good day.

By Bad S Mitten

August 5, 2008 12:29 PM | Link to this

Look at that. RW wants Obama to kill off Liberalism after GW and his merry band of Republican pinheads worked so hard to make it everything (to everyone) that it is today.

Mrs. Godzilla, you’re on a roll today. Please, keep up the good work.

Finally, I’ll vouch for the need for change. We’ve seen enough of what the Republican party stands for. I hear even Alaskans have finally gotten the message — crime doesn’t pay anyone except the crooks. As for Georgians, they’re slow so don’t expect the little light bulb to shine any time soon. But, when it does, I fully expect electricity usage for lighting to drop considerably.

The last thing Georgia really needs is yet another Republican moment (that’s code for idea). Instead of vouchers, this country needs to start learning what really has lasting value versus those things that are purely for entertainment. We as a society are willing to pay children (simply as one example out of many) millions per year to perform for the benefit of others (i.e., Taylor Swift or Miley Cyrus to name two) while paying those that develop alternate energy sources thousands per year. Why, Oh why, would someone pick the “rocket scientist” career path over all those other blingy options. You pay what you get for, Republican pinheads.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

That Joseph Romm piece bears a closer look:

This is an aggressive, achievable, and most important of all, a necessary energy plan. Kudos to Senator Obama and his energy team. Maybe he is The One.

Read it here

By six/foot/six

August 5, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

@ RW-(the original) August 5, 2008 11:42 AM

^^^^ You always speak the truth its just to sad that everyone is so caught up in dog and pony show we call American politics to notice what’s really going on. I myself sometimes get caught up in all the fervor, but after reading posts like yours I come back down to earth and realize that both parties are really one in the same, and the agenda they are commonly working towards is being advanced while we all are bickering and infighting amongst ourselves.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this

Thanks Bad S Mitten!

You’re so “handy”!

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

PHILADELPHIA (CBS 3) ― Eddie Ortiz Jr. and his father have been living on a street corner since Saturday morning—waiting for sneakers.

Not just any sneakers, but a pair designed by Ahmir “?uestlove” Thompson, drummer for the Grammy-winning hip-hop band, The Roots. Thompson designed the $225 red, green and gold Air Force 1 sneakers as part of the shoe company’s 1World collection, which will feature 18 designs over eight months.

Wanna bet that SeeBS3 runs a nightly story about how the economy is in the tank and nobody can afford a butterbean sandwich?

By V-Dog 85

August 5, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

RW,

Since when have the Repukelickins ever cared about education? Well, there was that first-elected Part leader, Mr. Lincoln, who signed into law the act which grant the state universities the lands they now occupy, and which set minimum standards and requirements for the right educational uses of those land. Followed by Roosevelt the Greater; and then there was Ike (particularly in response to Sputnik); and Nixon, whose domestic policy continues to surprise; and secretaries Ted Bell and Bill Bennett, who sold Reagan on the fed role in education, despite the candidate’s intention to de-federalize it (still a great idea); and since, you’ve had the examples of Friedman, Sowell, Steele, and many other Rebublican lay advocates for educational restructuring. (I would top that list with the late John Walton, son of Sam the father of Wal-Mart.) Right now, in Jim Wooten’s neighborhood resides a distinguised Republican who is more serious about education than any Democrat since John Dewey. That would be Newt Gingrich.

By Wxyz

August 5, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

I wonder if Skip Caray is interviewing Lou Gehrig in heaven right now? Having Skip around for so many years makes me feel like the luckiest fan (fan fan) on the face (face face) of the earth (earth earth).

Police say Skip Caray died at his backyard birdfeeder, with the orioles, the bluejays and the cardinals……

Mrs. Godzilla, STFU! You dont get to post 500 times. and BTW: you’re not fooling anyone. Everyone here knows that you’re an RW confederate, (if not a RW alias posting to himself like the triple-lipping jaw-boner his face truly is.)

But do get lost. You cant post 500 times. Posting is a priviledge and you’ve exceeded the limit.

moron. (and idiot)

By hillbilly ragger

August 5, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this

Been busy putting food on my family, but just a Deep Thought re: education for now—

Do the folks who sneer indulgently about the “government schooled” realize that they’re insulting about 9 out of 10 actual Americans in the process?

There’s a winning strategery for ya!

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this

WXYZ

Thanks you so very much for the gracious input!

Nothing says “Great American” like STFU!

By Do-Northing Dimocrat

August 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this

Looks like the do-nothing Dim-O-crats decided that it might be a good idea to back drilling. First these numbnut mindless incompetent boobs were against the surge, and now they are for it. Now they are for this. Is this what you call leadership, Dim-O-crats? http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12304.html

Morons-R-Us. Shoulda started doing something two years ago when you started babbling and drooling over oil prices then, you mindless left wing liberal Dim-O-crat morons.

Republicans: “NANCY PELOSI – WE’RE HERE, WHERE ARE YOU?”

Ha ha. Throw those worthless mindless liberal incompetent bums out of office this fall..they deserve nothing.

By BoneHead

August 5, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

GeraldBall, you obviously have no children, good private schools cost $10,000 a year for grade school. If I had vouchers I would send my kids to one. Vouchers may not be the answer but it is a tool that may produce an answer. I am so tired of the naysayers, you never know unless you try, but if you never try all you are is a talking head. Less talk more action will produce answers.

By Common Sense

August 5, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

This is information about Senator McClain who is going to have the United States energy independent. This article is from the Associated Press.

In 2007, McCain missed all 11 energy-related Senate votes considered key by the League of Conservation Voters, including votes related to automobile fuel economy, offshore Virginia drilling, refinery construction, renewable electricity mandates, energy efficiency, liquefied coal and support for biofuels. The absences prompted the League to give McCain a “zero” rating for the year.

Why is anyone voting for Senator McClain? AJC/BUD-stupid, RW, Ron, Paul all the McClain supporters please tell me why you support someone who is not present to vote on the most pressing issue in America!

By findog

August 5, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

How about this: If the school system does not make adequate progress, down to the individual school level, then no school from that city or county can compete in athletic playoffs. They can still play the regular season; but the community will not be given a chance to update all the signs leading into their political boundary with the latest state championship. And no we are not taking away students opportunities to compete we are emphasizing why they are in school; except that public education was really started as gang control for immigrant communities…

By Abomi Nation

August 5, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

Mrs Godzilla, we don’t need a new energy plan, the Republicans solved the energy problem a few years back. Remember in 2005? Faced with soaring energy prices the Republican Congress and our great President Bush gave us the great daylight savings extension act!

More drilling? No. More daylight savings!!!! Even though studies show we are actually using more energy with the extension. More daylight savings!!

Now all the sudden we need to drill more? Maybe we should just extend daylight savings again!

No wonder the Republican bums got kicked out!

By JackLeg

August 5, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Ms.Godzilla, do you believe that the democrats are gods that are there to serve you, and the republicans are the devil incarnate? You are a perfect example of why we need vouchers, I would never want my kid going to the same education that you where indoctrinated into.

By Wxyz

August 5, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

I score again?

Bill Clinton has been making alot of noise. He must know something about the Hill and the Veep. (bill is the fool on the hill…..ew)

Notice how Obama fired across Cheney’s bow today?

I wrote yesterday that all Obama needs to do is remind voters of Cheney and Bush. Keep the McCain association fresh but keep firing away at Cheney/Bush.

Obama: Remind voters of why we change is necessary.

Obama 08: Leading Americans back to America

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

Actually, DUH @ 12:57

The Democrats still think that off shore oil drilling isn’t a smart idea for either the short or long term.

(Kinda like giving an aspirin, to a guy with a gawdawful hangover, rather than drying the old sot out!)

YOU SEE, we want to create a bi-partisan compromise.

But if it makes the “low info” demographic feel better…..we will compromise.

Maybe somebody should send a message to that handful of Republicans (out of 198 I might add) that are still sitting in the dark again today….that McCain is interested in that same compromise!

By AmVet

August 5, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

Obumblism? I get your drift, but it needs a little work.

And your hyperbole notwithstanding, he’s not even remotely comparable to that classless McCarthy. The Kerry-like guy who apparently only went into the service to further his political career, who actually forged letters of commendation and lied about a “war wound” that he got during a crossing the equator ceremony.

And then went on one of the greatest unfounded (in many cases) witch hunts of the 20th century.

To most Americans his name is still synonymous with shameful, arrogant, irrational, hyper-partisan and blind zealotry.

In other words another blot on the GOP’s history.

BTW, going to back to the Rangers topic, you were the one who predicted a 60% winning clip. And if they rip off another nine wins in a row, you’ll be correct.

Good luck…

By B. Frank

August 5, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

“Nothing says “Great American” like STFU!”

Yeah Mrs. Lizard brain (and skin I’ll bet), I suppose that’s why you raunchy liberal festering flatulence on the left continue to wish to shut down Conservative thought like this blog and AM talk radio. Do you mindless morons ever really listen to your own psychobabble?

In any event, can someone come up with a logical explanation as to why a family who was sleeping in their car because their house was falling apart can have a house handed to them, and one appraised at over $900,000 even though it was built over their old dilapidated home, and still be in a foreclosure threat?

How many foreclosure statistics are out there with the mindset of stupid decision making from people like this? I’ll bet they’re Obama supporters.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Jackleg!

What a delightful response!

You are really quite a wordsmith!

The way you turn a phrase!

Wowee WOW WOW WOW!

By Paul

August 5, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla

A serious question. The “drill/no drill” off the US outer continental shelf (from the Minerals Management Service, upwards of 200 miles offshore) that’s been so contentious.

Do you have a reference, simple and specific, as to why Democrats are generally opposed? About all I’ve heard is Spkr Pelosi says that by the US (not other countries) drilling she’s trying to save the planet. Doesn’t make much sense. The other arguments are because it’ll “take too long” for the product to get to market; because we can already drill elsewhere (does this seriously mean “elsewhere” will get to market sooner or will provide adequate supply?); or because there’s environmental danger of a spill. I suppose none of the other methods have risk - not to mention the lack of morality not allowing the US to drill with strict standards, instead, letting other countries without strict standards do the drilling.

That’s about all I’ve been able to distill. Is there something I’m missing about why Democrats have made this such an issue to stake our future on? (One, it seems, Sen Obama has doubts about) -

By B. Frank

August 5, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

I think Obatulism has a better ring: toxic Marxist socialist ideology to a free capitalist America.

By cc

August 5, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

republicans and oil execs are in bed together, always have been. and now schools are hurting from high gas prices caused by one main thing…GREED, and still there are so many people that think the republicans care about their children and families, just because they say they do. what a joke and how completely stupid. we should use the oil we have. but we shouldn’t raise gas prices to the roof just to make getting this hard to reach oil economically feasible. if you think oil is the answer for America, you are part of the problem and no matter how much you say you care about something, just like the republicans and our kids, it your actions that really count. this country is smart enough, if we want to be, and we have the ability to come up with ways to make alternative and renewable energies. some one who truly loves America would want to do something that would be helpful to America, like new ways off acquiring energy, that’s patriotic! let oil companies and greedy politicians lead you around like an oxen with a nose ring, that hurts our country as much and maybe even more than any terrorist could do. we have to start thinking smart, use the oil we have but turn to better things and get that stinkin’ oil monkey off our back!

By Bad S Mitten

August 5, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

Why thank you, Mrs. Godzilla, I think. Of course, that depends on whether “handy” has some hidden meaning. Is it a code word.

By the way, I think it was the DOE that reported that We the People could save about 3% of our gas usage by properly inflating our tires. So, if We collectively drive about 2880 billion miles annually in vehicles that get 24 mpg with properly inflated tires, the annual gasoline savings would be about 3.6 billion gallons or about 180,000,000 barrels of oil (assuming 20 gallons of gas per barrel). That is just for the tire pressure mind you whereas Obama’s comment included vehicle tuneups which likely account for much greater oil savings given the fact that a clogged air filter alone can rob 10% of the fuel mileage from a vehicle. Now comparing the oil saved through proper tire inflation to the theoretical maximum capacity (not that it is actually operating anywhere near this level) of Thunder Horse of 250,000 bpd on an annualized basis, we have Thunder horse producing a theoretical peak for a 365-day year of 91.3 million barrels or slightly more than half the savings obtained from the inflated tires. And, guess what — air is still cheap and available instantly. By the way, don’t forget to change that air filter.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

PAUL

It’s simple.

You don’t break the cycle of addiction by maintaining supply.

My dad would say…it’s throwing good money after bad.

Again, Obama has no doubts about this. He is however willing to compromise.

Let us remember that up until quite recently, McCain was opposed to off shore drilling as well.

B. Frank

How can I ever thank you for your delicate and subtle commentary!

And your use of colorful descriptive words!

I bet your really a lover not a fighter!

By Abomi Nation

August 5, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this

Obama increases his lead over McCain, according to Gallup daily tracking.

Congrats McCain fans on your one day of fist pumping. Reality though rears its ugly head. Hey you still have your Monday memories though, right? I mean they were tied for one whole day! No one, and I mean no one can take that away from you!

Obama…47%

McCain 43%

By AJC/DNC Management

August 5, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Am I always right or what?:

PELOSI PRIVATELY TELLS DEMS THEY CAN BACK DRILLING…California Democrat Nancy Pelosi may be trying to save the planet — but the rank and file in her party increasingly are just trying to save their political hides when it comes to gas prices as Republicans apply more and more rhetorical muscle.

Now listen to the croaking from all their toadies change right along with the message.

Losers.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

Bad S….

no code, just bad pun.

mitten….handy…..

oh well.

By Blind Homer

August 5, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

Tear down the Department of Education. Take the Federal government completely out of the picture by determining education decisions are among the powers reserved for the states. Then invalidate the horrendous Supreme Court ruling that said public schools have to educate everyone that show up on their doorstep. Bar the illegals, eliminate ESOP classes, do away with mainstreaming and track everyone appropriately. Then start on the list above.

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

AmVet,

I predicted the 60% clip for a limited period of time and from where they stood at that moment in time. I believe they’re playing well above a 60% clip from that point in time.

Can’t look it up right now though, I’m off to do my civic duty.

By Paul

August 5, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla

[[You don’t break the cycle of addiction by maintaining supply.]]

Am I mistaken, but don’t both Dems and Reps have as part of their plans increased domestic production - Dems have simply lined out offshore? If so, it seems both want to maintain supply as a bridge, if you will, to compensate while alternate sources come on line.

You know my position - complete elimination of imports from the Middle East (I believe I said that before Obama). If that means, in the interim, offshore drilling, as well as shale oil, then so be it. I see the price argument as irrelevant - I’ve said we should do these things even if the price were higher than current.

My impression is it gets down to Spkr Pelosi putting local California interests above national (even though most plans would give states control) and a desire to do something, anything, to throw up as “we’re different” against Republicans. Very old school - as Obama just demonstrated.

But “maintaining supply” by citing one //location// of extraction while allowing for new extraction elsewhere still doesn’t make sense.

By Abomi Nation

August 5, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Tomorrows headline:

Republican energy deflated as McCain support flattens

By hillbilly ragger

August 5, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this

Paul, I’m not Mrs. G, but to answer your question, this isn’t that hard to figure out.

Republicans want a quick vote on lifting the ban on drilling. No deal, no compromise, no offsetting conservation measures, just drill here, drill now.

Why the hell should a Democratic majority leader worth her salt give in to ultimatums hurled by a minority? Screw that.

For some perspective—back when Bush originally made a rather weak push to drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, he at least made a token effort to compensate—in that case (it was back in 2001) he was going to make light truck fuel economy averages equal that of cars. Kind of lame, but at least it was something.

Do try to put yourself in our shoes. If it had been us telling you back in, say, the summer of ‘04 that you simply had to have a vote NOW NOW NOW, Hastert and Frist would tell us to screw off.

Beyond that, I seriously doubt that Pelosi has said that she’s taken this stance because she’s simply, as you have her putting it, “trying to save the planet.” But if you can find a cite for that I’m all eyes.

By Ga Values

August 5, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

SAXBY STRIKES AGAIN

Violations rife in hospital’s studies on veterans Inspector general finds consent forms, death reports missing Audrey Hudson (Contact) Tuesday, August 5, 2008 :

An investigation of research conducted at an Arkansas veterans hospital has uncovered rampant violations in its human experiments program, including missing consent forms, secret HIV testing and failure to report more than 100 deaths of subjects participating in studies.

The Office of the Inspector General of the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) on Tuesday will release its findings in a report on human subject protection violations at the Central Arkansas Veterans Healthcare System in Little Rock. The studies involved thousands of veterans who had volunteered for behavioral and drug experiments.

The investigation, which began last August, reviewed more than a half-dozen human experiments - including studies of colon, breast and prostate cancer - that had been conducted since 2006.

It found that entire consent forms were missing, signatures were missing from consent forms, HIV testing was conducted without documented consent, and research officials failed to obtain witness signatures in a study involving patients with dementia.

Additionally, the investigation found that researchers had failed to report “serious adverse events” during the experiments, including the deaths of 105 veterans. The researchers were required to report such events, regardless of whether they were accidental or linked to the experiments, to the Internal Review Board.

The board, which conducted oversight of the experiments, had been implemented and operated by the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences but was transferred to the VA after the investigation began. The VA created a review board and halted all new experiments involving human subjects.

“The issues at the VA medical center in Little Rock were detected by VA employees, revealed through investigations by [the Food and Drug Administration] and VA’s Office of Research Oversight, and ultimately referred to VA’s Office of the Inspector General,” said VA spokesman Matt Smith. “This is an example of VA detecting and fixing its own problems.

“The issues cited in VA’s Inspector General report are being addressed through an aggressive action plan. The Little Rock research program is under heightened scrutiny to ensure no recurrence,” Mr. Smith said.

“VA strives to provide world-class health care to its patients and that includes observing the highest professional standards in protecting people who agree to participate in medical research,” Mr. Smith said.

By FRANKLEEDARLING

August 5, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Being from the gulf coast of florida i can tell you no one wants offshore drilling of fthe coast of florida dem or repug.When you see all the damage it has done to texas beaches its just not worth it.Too much money is made off our clean beautiful beaches.

kick the habit oil addiction is ugly keep it away from your children

By Ga Values

August 5, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Saxby strikes again PPG2

Page 2 of 2 Back Violations rife in hospital’s studies on veterans Inspector general finds consent forms, death reports missing Audrey Hudson (Contact) Tuesday, August 5, 2008 Report The University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences did not respond to calls for comment.

The VA employs strict guidelines for consent forms and witness signatures for experiments involving veterans to ensure that volunteers are fully informed of all risks and possible side effects associated with the experiments.

When a veteran signs a consent form, the principal research investigator is supposed to sign the form as well. However, the inspector general (IG) found that in one test the researcher did not sign nearly 200 forms until two months later. In four studies reviewed by the IG, times, dates and witness signatures differed on 103 consent forms.

In a review of several cancer studies involving 1,400 veterans, investigators randomly sampled the files of 105 patients and could locate only 20 consent forms.

The findings are being released on the heels of July 9 IG report prompted by a Washington Times/ABC News joint investigation that the VA failed to pass on new drug warnings and risks in a timely manner to more than 200 participants in a smoking-cessation study who were also taking the drug Chantix. The eventual warnings of hallucinations and possible suicidal behavior were issued too late for James Elliott, who was subdued by police with a stun gun during a psychotic breakdown.

Iraq War veteran James Elliott testified to the House Veterans’ Affairs Committee of his experiences while taking the smoking-cessation drug Chantix last month in Washington. (Rod Lamkey/The Washington Times)

The IG said researchers in the smoking study “did not ensure that patients involved in the smoking cessation study were notified of the risk of suicidal thoughts or behavior in a timely manner.”

The IG also said it could not confirm whether warning letters reached the intended study participants, and more than half have not signed and returned amended consent forms advising that the drug may cause hallucinations or psychotic or suicidal behavior.

In Arkansas, the IG report found fault with the IRB operated by the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, saying it “failed to identify and address severe and continuing noncompliance.”

“Every protocol [study] discussed in this report was audited and deficiencies were identified and communicated to the IRB,” the IG said. “The IRB did not suspend or terminate any of them prior to outside inspections.”

In addition, the IG said there was a failure to ensure researchers had required skills and training to conduct the clinical trials, and that unlicensed research personnel performed some medical procedures it described as “minimally invasive.”

One study to determine the success rate of heart surgeries required a cardiac catheterization one year later to see how open the arteries remained, but the procedure was performed on only one out of 70 patients.

In another study reviewed by the IG, the principal researcher told the IRB that no subjects were enrolled in the experiment, but told the Office of Research and Development that 47 veterans had been recruited for the study. The IG found that $138,000 had been spent on study-related expenses.

All research by one physician was suspended after it was discovered he was reviewing the medical records of 678 veterans for a study that never received approval.

As of March 18, the hospital was conducting nearly 300 active research projects, 200 of which used human participants and 55 that were evaluating investigational drugs. The IG recommended that the VA determine whether human subject research should continue at the hospital and to take appropriate administrative action.

In addition to creating the internal review board, the VA has since hired new officials to take over as chief of staff, assistant chief of staff for research and development and a new medical center director.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

FRANKLEEDARLING

Well Said!

By Common Sense

August 5, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

To Frankleedarling that is the most educated comment you have ever made on this blog!

Yet we still have AJC who still thinks drilling for oil is our way out of oil independence! Mr. Dum,Dum believe the price of oil is decreasing because of oil drilling talk that will not produce a drop of oil for 5 to 10 years.

That is speculations. By the way oil futures do not go out 5 years they are 90 percent complete 1 year at a time. Just ask the Airline companies!

AJC when are you going to wise-up. Hybrid cars will soon dominate the higways and byways thus greatly limiting our need for 25 million barrel of oil per day.

By Paul

August 5, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

hillbilly ragger,

Thanks, but I lost you at “Republicans want a quick vote on lifting the ban on drilling. No deal, no compromise, no offsetting conservation measures, just drill here, drill now.”

Not talking McCain’s plan, just limiting it to the House and Senate. This from CNN just a few days ago: “Reid, D-Nevada, said Democrats would allow votes on GOP amendments that would permit new drilling on the outer continental shelf; the development of oil shale in Western states; construction of new nuclear power plants; and broader legislation that Republicans have dubbed “find more, use less.”That legislation includes expanded offshore drilling, conservation initiatives, the improvement of battery technology, and language to curb speculation in the oil futures market.”

So it seems to me Congressional Reps have been offering quite a bit more than offshore drilling, period. Even the Senate “gang of ten” bipartisan plan seemed to have support - except among the Dem and Rep leadership, that is. And Spkr Pelosi’s tellling House Dems to blame her when they go home and tell the voters you personally support offshore drilling is crass politics at its worst.

Neither do I follow you on the “us vs their shoes.” So much of this seems the old-school payback politics, while the nation suffers.

Spkr Pelosi’s “save the planet” remark was to Politico. It’s included in an article in the San Francisco Chronicle:

Link: Same the planet

Notice the 20-yr history of opposing offshore drilling. Some people find it difficult to change their minds.

Here’s an article from Politico:

Link: The Mystical Speaker

Again, it seems a near pathological rejection of “anything Bush” clouds reason.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

What do y’all think about that anthrax guy?

Seems a little fishy to me….

By Bad S Mitten

August 5, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

Oops. How did I miss that. Wandering mind, perhaps. Anyway, have a pleasant remainder to your afternoon and smite a few more of those Frank farters on my behalf if you feel a need.

By GOPs got to go

August 5, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

I would like to believe that one can get a decent education at a public school. I sent two children through public schools by choice. I have found that the child and parents motivation have more to do with achievement than the school.

Children need to be given an example to follow, an example of hard work, honesty, and also knowledge that the world does not owe them anything. Throw in a large measure of compassion for the less fortunate. I always told my kids that it is not enough not to bully, you need to step in and stop the bully, then befriend the bullied. If your neighbor can not afford crayons, share yours, and they did. Discipline needs to start in the home, at a young age. If you are unable to control a two year old how can you hope to control a sixteen year old? I am not advocating hitting or screaming at your child, nor can I say I never did that. Spankings were few and far between and always warranted. Basically I sympathize with today’s teachers having to discipline more than teach.

Another reason I chose public schools was to show my children that not everyone in the world has the advantages they were blessed with, not everyone is white and middle class, and not everything is fair, so you better learn how to cope. Not being financially comfortable does not make you a bad person, nor does money make you a good person. They learned to judge people on their merit, not on their make of clothes and cars.

Somehow I think the push for vouchers is a way for parents to get private school paid for by the Government, or at least a healthy tax cut for those who can afford it. I have long believed that teachers were grossly under paid. How can you expect to attract the best teachers when they can barely make a living at it?

Someone brought up the point of schools facilities varying significantly from school to school. I have seen that up close in public schools and it can nearly always be attributed to the amount to PTA participation, i.e. money from parents. For example, has anyone seen Brookwood High schools stadium? Obviously the athletes’ parents have footed that bill.

At the end of the day, I am glad I chose public schools. I have two well educated, balanced, college students who have kept the HOPE scholarship at TECH. I would like to think that my encouragement and example has been a part of their success along with the teachers they encountered, both good and bad. Each had a lesson to teach, be it curriculum or a life lesson in dealing with future difficult people.

Ps, I am really sick and tired of the rhetoric on this site on both sides, especially the juvenile name calling and the use of the word urinal.

By FRANKLEEDARLING

August 5, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

Thanks,Mrs. Godzilla ,Common sense I try to make my self smarter in some way every day

By Devastator

August 5, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

Mrs.Godzilla,

What do you find suspicious about the anthrax guy? I suspect he may be a fall guy of some sort.

By Miss Congeniality

August 5, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this

GOPs got to go:

Thank you for posting that. It is about time someone on here said that there is more to children’s schooling than the school itself. I think it is too easy in today’s society to push the blame on everyone else and think that the almighty dollar will save us.

By the way, thank you for your last sentence. The word urinal is quite disgusting. Maybe someone (AJC/DNC) will pay attention.

By findog

August 5, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

So, Mrs. Godzilla @1:29 Your father is an addict? I thought most defects came from the mother’s over indulgence…

By FRANKLEEDARLING

August 5, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Having no list of real accomplishment in the war on terror I think the anthrax guy may be just another Bushco smokescreen.

By "Charles", The Original

August 5, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Jim Wooten makes excellent points about fixing the schools in Georgia and perhaps around the nation. But the problems with our schools are more far-reaching than fixing them per se. If schools are fixed to provide a better brand of brainwashing, we will continue to adversely serve the citizens of the state where in they reside.

Our schools teach children that we live in a Democracy. But the founding fathers correctly stated in no uncertain terms that a Democracy is the vilest form of government resulting in fascism. Emphatically, a founding father, Benjamin Franklin, cautioned average Americans that America is a Republic, if we can keep it; a subtle afterthought given to citizens that the foes of freedom are always present.

Additionally, in a Republic, individuals are the supreme rulers, and Corporations/Government is servant to the individuals. This pecking-order constitutes freedom for the people.

But in a Democracy, Corporations/Governments are the supreme rulers. And individuals are servants/slaves to each. This political structure is known as fascism.

In order for Corporations/Governments to maintain power over individuals, bureaucrats must organize schools to be in the business of brainwashing citizens, not educating them.

A great patriot, Red Beckman does an excellent job in educating Americans in his seminar, fully informed jury. The seminar provides an explicit example for Americans to observe the difference between education and brainwashing.

Copy and paste:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5959251658237547562

By GOPs got to go

August 5, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

Had any of you actually even given the slightest thought to the Antrax guy in years? Why the need of a fall guy if no one was even paying attention?

I may be wrong but I thought one could trace Anthrax from the strain it is? That the labs could tell where it had come from if it was OUR Anthrax.

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Allow me to do a little scoreboard watching.

On the morning of April 25th when AmVet started mocking the Texas Rangers they were 7-17. Today they are 59-54 which means since they got dissed at ml’s they have gone 52-37 or a winning percentage of .584269662.

Pretty darned close, but alas they need to pick up the pace.

By Devastator

August 5, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Interesting that both this guy and Bin Laden failed to come to trial. They are both afterthoughts.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

Devastator….

That’s what I’m thinking.

I read that Bush hammered some of his minions to come out early and publically trying to tie this to al Qaeda.

New reports say he was a registered democrat….why attack Daschle, Leahy and Brokaw?

And…it appears that the social worker who worked with this guy also has a criminal record….

It ain’t passing the “smell test” with me.

By findog

August 5, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

Dear Paul and Do-Nothing, I believe the speaker actually wants to tie several other issues that the President has threatened to veto to the drilling vote. Use it or lose it for the areas that the oil companies hold leases on currently is one. Increasing the fleet mileage standards is another. I just wish we could see what came up in the secret meeting the Vice President held to come up with an energy policy. Hillbilly, The speaker did say that saving the planet from carbon based greenhouse gasses was a major goal of hers. So, it could be inferred she is trying to save the planet. Excellent points on congressional power; strange how the minority always howls for up and down votes is it not?

By Bosch

August 5, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

GOP has got to go,

Very excellent post. Couldn’t agree more. Being married to a school teacher, I can say, you are right on.

Mr. Wooten’s and many conservatives answer to education woes are, as with so many things, to privatize, and competition.

It is my opinion there are some things in this world that the government should be in charge of, and education is definitely one of those.

Now, I don’t think private schools are evil or anything like that, they are needed for many (like where @@ teaches), but they need to be kept just like they are.

Like GOP’s got to go said, people who support vouchers think - very erroneously, that they are a simple way for the government to pay for their child to go to a private school. That just makes me laugh and laugh on the inside.

If your child is a special needs child, then I support it whole-heartedly, but I feel that many parents will use the term “special needs” to include many overly-diagnosed conditions like ADD (when, in many of these cases, kids need to be told to shut the hell up and sit the hell down and hell no you can not get your way - what’s that? temper tantrum? [phone rings] excuse me, Ms./Mr. so and so, your child is pitching a fit and disrupting class, come and get his/her spoiled little a* out of my class - thank you)

I digressed. Vouchers for special needs kids? Yes, but for actual special needs children - spoiled brats don’t count.

But there are three things to remember when screaming for vouchers:

1) a voucher will NEVER cover the cost of private school - private schools will simply raise their tuition rates if this ever comes to pass

2) private schools do not want vouchers - funny how you never see private school lobbyists pushing for this - many parents in private schools would cringe at the thoughts of some of THOSE people coming to their school - think about it a second

Also, private schools do now want the headaches they would have to endure of federal regulations - NCLB for one.

3) vouchers only take $$$ away from public schools which - believe it or not, will always be necessary for a majority of the population.

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Nancy Pelosi repeated the saving the planet bit, along with a wide array of dodges, on ABC this weekend. The video is at my 9:01 comment.

By Devastator

August 5, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

WASHINGTON - A new poll finds Barack Obama is leading John McCain nationally by 6 percentage points thanks to big leads he is enjoying among women, minorities and younger voters.

The Associated Press-Ipsos poll shows that Obama is leading his Republican rival 47 percent to 41 percent. McCain has a 10-point lead among whites and is tied with the Democrat among men, but Obama is leading by 13 points among women and has huge leads with minorities and the young.

The poll was released Tuesday following a week in which the two camps accused each other of bringing race into a campaign in which Obama is seeking to become the country’s first African-American president.

By hillbilly ragger

August 5, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Paul, I wish I had the time to give this topic the attention it deserves, but first off, thanks for the Pelosi links. Just skimmed the Politico story; I happen to think she’s right. If others want to trivialize her concern, let them.

Then again, if some Republicans had some legitimately tough conservation/alternative energy/mass transit funding to offer in return to this concession, then I stand corrected. I just wasn’t aware of any such efforts; I had only heard about the Gang of Ten’s compromise. Which sounds pretty weak. I assumed that what the other House and Senate Republicans were offering was even weaker.

As for the old-school payback politics, well, this ain’t beanbag. Both sides have an election to win. Obviously I’m biased, but it sure seems as if the Dems were being pressured to cave on something that’s very, very important to their base.

Although personally, if they were going to cave on anything, I’d have rather seen them cave on this instead of FISA, given that it’s unlikely individual states will permit the drilling anyway, down the road.

(Cynical of me, I know.)

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this

Findog

And to top off all of your special qualities…your a gentleman too!

I’m sure my 85 year old dad, Army Air corp vet, part of the occupation forces in both Japan and the Phillipines, would really appreciate your thoughtfulness!

You absolutely radiate sweetness!

By GOPs got to go

August 5, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

Getting back to the discipline problem in schools, here is my personal example of how bad it is now. My oldest daughter had always wanted to be a teacher. After her first year at TECH she was chosen to be a student teacher in a high school, funded by a grant. She was so excited about finally getting to share her gifts in math and science to young minds. After the first semester it was a chore to go to “work” at the school. She complained of loud, rude, and unmotivated students. The only part she was enjoying was the gifted class she was teaching Environmental Science to. They wanted to be there and they wanted to learn. She no longer wants to teach. She is pursuing her PhD in Geochemistry. I was torn, I did not want to influence her decision. Part of me was glad she chose academia over what is considered a less than desired career in teaching at the High School level.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Devastator

Did those polls include Barr and Nader?

Those two seem to take support from McCain increasing the Obama lead.

By BFKaJ

August 5, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Dear Mitten @ 10:48, you reveal the level of your true talents again, without trying. And again @ 11:08. Amazing. @ 1:23 you sound like a true Nanny-stater and a whining scold. Keep publishing, you are the best advertisement for those who feel differently.

Dear Common @ 11:25, the nice thing about every purchasable in America other than education, if you don’t like Product A, you can buy Product B, manufactured by a different company. In education you can buy any color you want so long as that is black. (Attention moonbats, that is a Henry Ford reference, not playing the race card here.) @ 1:06, “In 2007, McCain missed all 11 energy-related Senate votes considered key by the League of Conservation Voters” Inquiring minds want to know, exactly how many of those Senate votes would have produced any more energy? All of those votes, except one, were to promote one form or another of corporate welfare. Wanna bet who has their hand out there? I did go to the lcv.org website, where the banner reads, “turning environmental values into national priorities.” I suppose I would have wanted McCain there to vote against anything the LCV promotes. They have a really funny page, “LCV Responds to McCain Gas Prices Ad”; as you would expect, the usual leftist tripe, against more production. I suppose that is one way to keep Americans hopelessly dependent on the mercies of the democrats. Your 2:06 note (“Yet we still have AJC who still thinks drilling for oil is our way out of oil independence! Mr. Dum,Dum believe the price of oil is decreasing because of oil drilling talk that will not produce a drop of oil for 5 to 10 years.”) suggests you don’t have even the most tenuous grasp on the most elemental aspects of economics. An adamant Congressional refusal to drill ensures that those betting on higher prices will win; a possibility of drilling says they can lose big. That is first year stuff; heck, that’s how Keynes made his personal fortune, speculating against government policies.

Dear Corey @ 12:27, don’t pay any attention to the leftists. We don’t grade grammar or spelling on this website, and your post was meritorious.

Dear Mrs. Godzilla @ 1:13, “YOU SEE, we want to create a bi-partisan compromise.” By “compromise” do you mean inject new corporate welfare spending into the deficit? @ 1:29, you cannot control people if you allow them freedom to drill for their needs. I understand your perspective, I just disagree. @ 2:10, agreed. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121789293570011775.html?mod=djemEditorialPage

Dear cc @ 1:20, when you say “we have to start thinking smart, use the oil we have but turn to better things and get that stinkin’ oil monkey off our back!” you mean you will pass laws to prohibit the rest of us from drilling and living normal lives, rather requiring us to adhere to your lifestyle. How could anyone refuse such a blandishment?

Dear Ragger @ 1:49, “Why the hell should a Democratic majority leader worth her salt give in to ultimatums hurled by a minority? Screw that.” Even if the “ultimatums” are backed by 60%+ of the public? Sounds like a winning strategy to me, go for it.

I am not a great fan of Pat Buchanan – I find myself in disagreement as much as not – but he has a pretty good analysis of Chauncey’s awful, no-good, very bad week, “Mr. Obama, Welcome to the NFL” http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=27884

By Devastator

August 5, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla,

Actually, I’m of the belief that a lot of our comrades use cell phones and no home phones which is what pollsters poll from.

I’ll bet there is another unknown 10% out there who will shock the pollsters and media.

By Paul

August 5, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) 2:40

“Dodges” is a good word. I’ve watched several of her interviews. Remove “George Bush” from her vocabulary and she wouldn’t have much to say. Just shows what happens when one makes politics personal.

Cute point about “save the cheerleader” the other day. I wonder if Obama is a “Heroes” fan?

Devastator

Not much response to the question the other day - is anyone buying the “I don’t look like the founding fathers” as a reference to experience?

BTW - I like the way he’d let Pelosi know he wasn’t into mutual suicide over offshore drilling -

Rather gets back to the columnist who asked “Just what did Obama’s farleft supports think he meant when he said he would compromise, that he would bring people together? That he would bring the bulk of America over to the farleft? Or that he’d take the farleft and move them towards the center - or leave them behind?” (paraphrasing, here). I think the early indications are in -

Hey Bosch

Been saving this for you:

Link: {BSG theme a capella](http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/04/meme-alert-batt.html)

I always like the warm and fuzzy feeling I get from the Millennium Generation.

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

BKFaJ

Nope….not into corporate welfare….

Thanks for link on Ivins.

This will be real interesting to watch.

By Bosch

August 5, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this

GOP has got to go,

Did your daughter have any pedagogy training? Or did she think she was going to go into the classroom and wow the students with her gift of science?

High school students can not be wowed by much of anything except whose having sex with whom, even if it’s not happening, just the implication is enough.

Not trying to be cynical here, but teaching is an art form in and of itself, and if you don’t know how to actually TEACH, you will get swallowed by the masses. Being a former teacher myself, it’s important to know how to teach to a broad array of learning styles and there’s a definite trick to that.

Many people are of the mindset that it’s so easy to teach, but it’s tough, and coupled with the low pay and long hours put in - it’s a hard job to keep.

By Devastator

August 5, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I don’t really care about that. Its the media that’s making that comment bigger than it actually is.

That being said, it is insane to think that there no people out there who are not supporitng him because he looks different.

Should he have pointed that out? Probably not, but I’m sick of paying so much for gas and that issue doesn’t personally affect me or anyone else.

By BFKaJ

August 5, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Dear Leftists one and all, in reading your notes on both the topic of the day (education) and the issue of the hour (oil) everything you post opposes individual freedom of choice.

Everything you write on education says that parents should not have any meaningful selection in either provider or institution or curriculum. Why do you so distrust the average Joe?

As to energy, you propose no increase in anything unless it requires corporate welfare payments to some leftist organization that will come up short in achieving anything like a reliable supply. Meanwhile we have 200 years of oil sitting just off our shores and in a tiny desert in Alaska. Are you not troubled by your “controlling” tendencies?

By Bosch

August 5, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Paul,

HOLY S**! That was funny. I closed my eyes and listened. Parts were funny, and other parts made my dog uncomfortable. Very uncomfortable. It had been any longer, he’d have started howling - you know how a dog starts with the “almost howling” howls before he totally lets loose. Or is that just my dog?

[It’s okay, buddy, it’s gone now.]

Thanks!

Oh, and about the Anthrax guy? I think he was a crazy socially moronic sociopath whose death makes the word a safer place.

Is that a bad thing to say?

By Paul

August 5, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

hillbilly ragger 2:45

I agree a Party shouldn’t abandon core principles or programs important to its base - but offshore drilling doesn’t seem it, to me. Everything I’ve read indicates Dem leaders across the country are getting an earful from their constituents. Then again, if one defines “base” as the segment with the activism and dollars, you may be on to something!

My impression was also if the Dems tossed out all sorts of alternate energy/conservation initiatives - wind power, new batteries, etc (ref the Sen Reid link earlier) they’d go along. Again, I’m not sure offshore drilling is an issue of the “base” or of Spkr Pelosi. I’ve just always kinda liked the idea of letting the peoples’ representatives having a vote on an issue.

I think it was the Politico article that reference Spkr Pelosi switching on FISA. If she can switch on that, I’d say never say ‘never’ on offshore drilling -

By Bosch

August 5, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

BKKaJ,

“Everything you write on education says that parents should not have any meaningful selection in either provider or institution or curriculum. Why do you so distrust the average Joe”

Because the average Joes are not educational experts and know absolutely nothing about curriculum planning and implementation to the betterment of the communities and our nation.

Parents do have a choice of where to send their kids to school - or choose to teach them themselves.

By Steve

August 5, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this

Very shortsighted, akin to the federal government’s “no child left behind” demands that schools progress each year. Student populations change year to year and an already high performing school drops a percentage point is deemed “under performing”. Common sense has to enter into this discussion at some point, not agenda driven poorly conceived ideas of how schools should be populated. Allowing students to change schools as easily as the misinformed would have them do it is asking for chaos. The logistics of moving a large population of students to another school is just plain dumb. Extra staff will need to be hired, including teachers, who may only work there for one year until the parents decide their child needs to go to yet another school, even their previous school. And guess what, the teachers that the parents were trying to get away from could be hired at the school everyone is transferring to. They will go somewhere. Extra classrooms will have to be set up temporarily, until the following year when the population could change drastically again. We just as well have a portable school system with only portable classrooms moving year to year depending on the misguided whims of parents who are a great percentage of the problem in the first place. Nothing about the idea is feasible. Each low-performing school should get extra attention in areas deemed appropriate for the needs of that school. Whether it’s class size or more skilled teachers, there are ways to turn schools around without the wholesale chaos of allowing transfers to schools of choice. The students that transfer to other schools will by and large have some of the same problems because they will still have the same parents who are one of the main causes of low performing students. The parent’s have all manner of excuses. I had to work to put food on the table so I took a night job or I just don’t have time to meet with the teacher or be there for the kids at night to help with homework, etc, etc., because of the job I elected to take. Parent’s will yell and scream about school choice being the answer to their kids problems when the parent’s are actually the majority of reason for students not succeeding. Parental involvement is the key to most of the ills of the educational system. Dumb decisions by school administrators (and there are many) can be overcome with an involved parent and a teacher working together for a common goal, not just giving excuses. Those same parents will quickly learn that those private schools they so desperately want to enroll their child in do not have near the qualified staff or programs to help their child if he or she needs help in a particular area. Private schools are by and large a last resort for a certified teacher who can’t get a job at a public school. The pay and benefits are not comparable and a lot of the private positions are filled by teachers that either weren’t qualified to teach in public schools or do not want to be held to as high a standard. They know they can have a much easier time in private school because they don’t have to put up with the same problems a public school teacher does. Of course there are exceptions on both sides. There a teachers in public schools that shouldn’t be teaching and they should be held accountable by the administration and parents who should not condone poor performance especially by a teacher. How do we accomplish it? By not running to the perceived greener pasture, but getting involved with the school down the street. No excuses.

By Bosch

August 5, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

Oh and Paul,

Who is Savitr the God? (from the lyrics).

That was funny in the article when they said they have no idea what the lyrics are, they just make them up. I do the same thing.

Sanskrit, huh? Insteresting.

By Common Sense

August 5, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

To Bkajc:

The Bush Adminstration ha given plenty of corporate welfare now you are to stop giving out corporate welfare.

Oil companies will probably want the government to support the drilling off-shore. Government give a percentage and a percentage should be returned to the government. Balance my fellow American.

Also know-it all it’s elemental supply and demand not a congress on vacation for 5 weeks who have not lifted the ban yet!

By the way a lot of people make money off many decisions off the government.

By "Charles", The Original

August 5, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Jim Wooten makes excellent points about fixing the schools in Georgia and perhaps around the nation. But the problems with our schools are more far-reaching than fixing them per se. If schools are fixed to provide a better brand of brainwashing, we will continue to adversely serve the citizens of the state where in they reside.

Our schools teach children that we live in a Democracy. But the founding fathers correctly stated in no uncertain terms that a Democracy is the vilest form of government resulting in fascism. Emphatically, a founding father, Benjamin Franklin, cautioned average Americans that America is a Republic, if we can keep it; a subtle afterthought given to citizens that the foes of freedom are always present.

Additionally, in a Republic, individuals are the supreme rulers, and Corporations/Government is servant to the individuals. This pecking-order constitutes freedom for the people.

But in a Democracy, Corporations/Governments are the supreme rulers. And individuals are servants/slaves to each. This political structure is known as fascism.

In order for Corporations/Governments to maintain power over individuals, bureaucrats must organize schools to be in the business of brainwashing citizens, not educating them.

A great patriot, Red Beckman does an excellent job in educating Americans in his seminar, fully informed jury. The seminar provides an explicit example for Americans to observe the difference between education and brainwashing.

Click on and respond accordingly:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5959251658237547562

By Paul

August 5, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Devastator

I pointed that out because I think Obama’s run a pretty smart campaign. I’d said early on that I had my doubts if he could overturn the Clinton machine during the primaries. But he did some “out of the box” thinking and now he’s the nominee.

How he’s presented himself is something different on the political scene. But that comment - he was the one who brought it up, months back, and repeats it, often in the context of “this is what others will say about me.” And that seems out of character with the calculated smarts in how he’s conducted other parts of the campaign. I’ve referenced his “Buch-McCain” tie, how I think he knows better but it plays well with crowds. I heard the same when I heard him speak, months back.

I think his best strategy would be to drop the references, the innuendo. If he does, we can get back on track with policies. If he doesn’t, it’ll tell us loads about him, or about those advisors to whom he listens.

Bosch

That’s a good think to say. The world’s better off without him. He was a psychopath and a murderer.

I was going to ask Mrs. G and a few others - I notice that when they cite their sources, I never read anything along these lines - such as the guy who planned the Cole bombing - al Masri - was just killed in a Predator strike (in Pakistan). Or that the al Qaeda number two - CBS, I believe, had a copy of a letter (AQ denies story) saying Zawahiri was wounded in a missile strike, his wounds have become infected, he’s in pain and urgently needs treatment.

Again, ” I think they were sociopathic murderers whose deaths make the word a safer place.

Is that a bad thing to say?”

By GOPs got to go

August 5, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Well Bosch,

I guess one can chalk it up to her being young and bright eyed, as we all were at one time in our lives. She went K-12 in public schools and I am sure she was exposed to discipline problems during her own High School days. You have to understand that this is a high achiever kid, highest SAT in her class, graduated in 3 ½ yrs from TECH first in her major. She has always wanted to learn and did not recognize that many do not, naiveté on her part.

I kind of always had the no whine tolerance parenting style. If I told them to suck it up, they knew to do it or else there would be consequences. Even before Dr Phil came around, I knew to hit them where it hurt once and stick to it. I mean hit in the metaphorical way, take away something that they really wanted, and never, ever cave. No meant no, and it remained no, even if asked repeatedly. So when she encountered kids who ignored her attempts at discipline she did not care to stick around, she threw up her hands and said “stay dumb, your only hurting yourself.” I remember when my kids tried the screaming thing on me, I usually left the room. It is no fun screaming without an Audience.

We were all young and naive once. It is all a matter of how long we can tolerate things

By Paul

August 5, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

Bosch

Pre-Hindu. Sun dude.

I’ve a daughter in law who gets bugged when her husband makes up words to songs. Even if he knows the words. I told her to relax - family tradition and all that.

Kinda like when I first heard the Sean Hannity song and would sing along with “we will sing our song as we skip along will you come out and play as we make some hay it’s time to yell today”

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Whenever CBS claims to have a document it’s best to hold out a little cynicism.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Oh great idea, Barrry.

The state of California has implemented such a successful efficiency strategy that while electricity consumption grew 60% in this country over the last three decades, it didn’t grow at all in California. There is no reason we can’t do the same thing all across America.-The Dunce

Let’s emulate California? First, California didn’t cut their demand; they only kept it from increasing. Next, people may remember how well California’s energy policy worked over the last two decades. The aging infrastructure, price mandates, and botched privatization led the state into years of rolling blackouts, where utilities simply cut off supply in order to compensate for an inability to meet demand. Governor Gray Davis got recalled from office over the issue, but the blackouts continued for years afterward.

Have I mentioned………..?

By Bud Wiser

August 5, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

Wow. Scientists have discovered a whole new cache of lowland gorillas, essentially doubling the endangered species head count by over 125,000.

Howard Dean has dispatched a crack team from DNC headquarters to Africa, to offer the gorillas asylum in the United States, as well as free universal health care, tax-free status, and access to Social Security and other government programs as their citizenship is established. Nancy Pelosi seeks a waiver to allow them to vote in the general election this fall, with a promise not to drill for oil along the coast of Africa, extending to somewhere just beyond the orbital path of Neptune.

By Bosch

August 5, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

GOP’s got to go (love the name, btw) -

I really hate hearing stories like your daughter’s because there are many who get thrown to the wolves so to speak with out the proper training.

The first year is the hardest for most teachers and those without the proper support - I’m surprised they last a week.

That’s why that program - I forget what it’s called - where non-certified teachers, if they can get hired, can get certified through this program - the name escapes me - but it’s a total failure.

People are so naive if they think they can walk into a classroom and start teaching - that it’s easy - with absolutely no training and no support. It’s kind of an insult to the teachers who do work hard to get where they are.

Kids DO want to learn, most of them just don’t know it. It’s fun when you actual teach a kid something and they haven’t a clue you just did it. I’ve seen it many times. A properly trained teacher will be able to read a kid and figure out HOW s/he learns, and be able to teach them the material - sometimes with very non-traditional methods.

Being a good teacher meeans being a master multi-tasker and being able to teach the same thing in a variety of different ways at the same time. That’s what good teachers know and bad teachers need to know.

I have the same parenting style - when my kids start screaming at me - I just stare at them blankly until their done, then I say something real cynical like “[big wide, obnoxious yawn, followed by smacking lips] are you done? Wow, that must have been painful getting all that s** to come out of your mouth like that.” Or as they are yelling, I’ll pretend to fall asleep, rather melodramatically, like I’ll fall down in the floor and start pretend snoring. They hate that. But most of the time, it will make them laugh, which they hate even worse because they know I’VE BEAT THEM AND WON!!!

By Mrs. Godzilla

August 5, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Iraq Government Has $79 Billion in Unspent Cash

Hmmmmmm

The soaring price of oil will leave the Iraqi government with a cumulative budget surplus of as much as $79 billion by year’s end an American federal oversight agency has concluded in an analysis released on Tuesday. The unspent windfall, which covers surpluses from oil sales from 2005 through 2008, appears likely to put an uncomfortable new focus on the approximately $48 billion in American taxpayer money devoted to rebuilding Iraq since the American-led invasion.

By GOPs got to go

August 5, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

. Good post Steve, just a little hard to read when not presented in paragraph form.

I whole heartedly agree with your thoughts on school jumping parents. If your kid is ALWAYS having problems, the problem just might be your kid.

I also think the kids should have to problem solve themselves. You are not always going to be able to fight their battles for them. That’s life. I have a good example of that. My daughter the “liberal” was in an AP English Lit. class when Al Gore was running for president. Instead of teaching English Lit., the “right wing” teacher chose to have political debates constantly, giving diatribes on the merits of Bush and the obscenity of Gore. Being in the county we are in, my kid was in the minority politically. When she expressed her opinions on the election she was graded down on any thing subjective that she handed in. For the first time in her academic career she brought home a “C” on a term paper. Being the high achiever that she is this was upsetting at the least. After reading her paper, I told her my thoughts. The paper was good, but the teacher’s grade stands. If you can not do anything about it, just work harder. She did and still received an “A” in the class. When she got a 100 on everything not subjective the “C’s” were brought up. I know you are probably thinking her papers were just not good, however, the same kid won a National Essay contest the very next year. The point is there are jerks every where in life and you need to learn how to cope with one who has authority over you.

By Paul

August 5, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original)

So true. But it would be good news.

Link: al Zawahiri update

By Paul

August 5, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

RW-(the original) 3:55

[[he state of California has implemented such a successful efficiency strategy that while electricity consumption grew 60% in this country over the last three decades, it didn’t grow at all in California. There is no reason we can’t do the same thing all across America. - Sen Obama]]

Say What?!!? California did not have any increase in electricity consumption in the last 30 years?!!?

[[To investigate California’s electrical demand, we start with aggregate statewide consumption. Table 1 illustrates the extent to which California’s electrical consumption and summer peak load have grown over the last twenty years (CEC, 1998; Rohrer, 2001). The first observation about these data is that annual consumption and peak load are both about 50% larger in 2000 than they were in 1980. Looking at the absolute growth by sector, consumption and peak load increased the most in commercial buildings, followed by residential buildings, and then industry. In percentage terms, electricity consumption and load have grown over the last two decades at just over 2% per year, with the highest growth rate observed in commercial buildings. Growth was highest during the 1980-1990 period. The recession of the early 1990s resulted in slower growth between 1990 and 1995.]]

From Electricity Use in California

Link: Calif Electricity no increase in 30 years?

This is the last time we hear reference to Sen McCain stating he doesn’t know everything there is to know about economics…

By Bosch

August 5, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

GOP has got to go,

“If your kid is ALWAYS having problems, the problem just might be your kid”

Amen.

Another example. Middle Bosch child got in school suspension for not having his shirt tucked in all the way. I told him the rule was rather ridiculous, that I really couldn’t see the point (me being a radical liberal and all), but that was the rule, deal with it, and next day TUCK IN YOUR DAMN SHIRT!!!

Now, I do see the point in dress codes, I’m no fan of seeing a boys underwear or his pants down to his kneecaps, or almost seeing parts of young women that their fathers would not want anyone except their future husbands to see (if that), but a shirt being untucked? Are you kidding me?

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Great comment from that thread I linked at 3:55

I knew i heard this idiot say that , and first thing i thought was” oh yeah the rest of the country wants to be as screwed up as we are in Cali” did anyone tell Nobama that our generators run on natural gas , dose he know we have to drill for that too . maybe he can just go stand out by the wind farm on 580 and open his pie hole and spew forth more bs on the days when we need more wind

By GOPs got to go

August 5, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Too bad mindless Gorillas usually vote Republican

By Bosch

August 5, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

BTW -

LOVE Luckovich’s cartoon today. Skip Carey was one unique guy - he’s irreplaceable.

By GOPs got to go

August 5, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

Me thinks your middle child is in private school

By Concerned Citizen

August 5, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

By Bosch August 5, 2008 2:40 PM It is my opinion there are some things in this world that the government should be in charge of, and education is definitely one of those.

Education is definitely one of “those” that does not need to be privatized. All this business about government being wasteful and inefficient is partly right, but no more wasteful than the private sector IMHO. Just ask the ex-Enron employees or stockholders. Dang those government regulations. If we’d had a few (regulations) left in place, those lending institutions….but that’s another story.

When human services are farmed out to the private sector, greed takes over in the form of big profit. I’m talking human services in terms of those who have no choices, i.e. children, the mentally ill, prisoners etc. etc.

Teachers are not the only problem with the school system. Teachers can’t teach if parents refuse to parent. That pesky little word called discipline is a fly in many parent’s cornflakes. Just place the little troublemaker in front of the TV (idiot box), and let him/her watch MTV.

Who needs reading, riting and rithmatic anyway? I do agree that vouchers should be available for children with learning disabilities etc.

By Bosch

August 5, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Forgot something. I’ve explained my position on what to do with murdering scum. Did you read the story about the inmate on death row who claims he is too fat to die by lethal injection?

Simple. Shoot the b******* in the head. Twice, if need be.

By SaveOurRepublic

August 5, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

“Charles” the Original - Good points about a Democracy (which we are not) versus a Republic (which a Constitutional one we are…or least supposed to be). Our Founding Fathers would be rolling in their graves to see the shambles the Globalist pawns on “Crapitol sHill” have made of our Constitutional Republic!

Mrs. Godzilla @ 2:50 PM EDT - Don’t forget about Constitution Party nominee Dr.Chuck Baldwin. Many Independents (like myself) and fed-up Republicans will be supporting Dr.Baldwin & his Constitutionally sound platform.

http://www.baldwin2008.com

By GOPs got to go

August 5, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

Yeah, I can get behind a dress code myself. The hardest part of girls growing up and moving out is the clothes they may now put on. I just had to beg mine to double tie those strings before you go surfing please.

By Bosch

August 5, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

Concerned Citizen,

Amen to you too.

By Blind Homer

August 5, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

I heard Obama say when he’s Pres he’ll ge tthe auto companies to build 1 million 150 MPG vehicles within six years but we can’t get a drop of oil from offshore drilling for seven years? How can this be?

By Paul

August 5, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this

Bosch 4:36

You’re a complicated Lib, you know that?

By Bad S Mitten

August 5, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

jbwhatever, that last bit of “wisdom” was really lame. I mean it completely lacked any evidence of intellect whatsoever. The good news is that it fully met my expectations of your level of development and as such my initial program of study that I had anticipated for you will do quite nicely. I call it Advanced Fiskars and Elmers. I do think that you’ll be a natural. Please report to your nearest public school to sign up. Also, I regret to inform you that vouchers are not available for this course work. Please remember to bring your blunt-nosed scissors and newspapers from home. We will supply all the Elmers that you should possibly require at no extra charge.

Thank you and have a pleasant afternoon.

By GOPs got to go

August 5, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this

I’m a Lib too but I will go to Ohio and find a vein on that SOB myself.

By Bud Wiser

August 5, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Whatever happened to the compassionate but dimwitted Democrat? The prisons are already overflowing with the mindless scum you people have worked so hard to save by fighting the death penalty.

Now, you reap what you sow.

Idiots.

By Midori

August 5, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

We’re trying to find out a bit more about the Bikini Beauty Pageant at the Buffalo Chip, where John McCain showed up and offered up wife Cindy as a contestant. ESPN says the event is topless and “occasionally bottomless”. Actually their description is worth quoting in full …

By Bosch

August 5, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

Paul,

I hear that alot. :-)

GOPS got to go,

LOL with the string thing. I’ll keep that advice in mind for my daughter.

@4:50 - I’ll go with you.

Pleasant evening all.

By Chuckling out loud

August 5, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this

Dear Bad S Mitten,

That is some tough trash talk for someone who bats a shuttlecock over a net with a wimpy racket.

By Midori

August 5, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

This one’s for Bud Wiser: Obama Pushes Back on GOP Tire Pressure Attack: “It’s Like These Guys Take Pride in Being Ignorant”

By AJC/DNC Management

August 5, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

By Common Sense August 5, 2008 2:05 PM Yet we still have AJC who still thinks drilling for oil is our way out of oil independence! Mr. Dum,Dum believe the price of oil is decreasing because of oil drilling talk that will not produce a drop of oil for 5 to 10 years. That is speculations. By the way oil futures do not go out 5 years they are 90 percent complete 1 year at a time. Just ask the Airline companies! AJC when are you going to wise-up. Hybrid cars will soon dominate the higways and byways thus greatly limiting our need for 25 million barrel of oil per day.

Why are you babbling at me, moron, the comment you are replying to was about *dimwitocrats pressuring their mindless leadership to let them vote yes on drilling.

And you know why that is? Because the majority of their constituents are not stupid, like thee environmental terrorists are.

Maybe you don’t realize this, being trapped in the fog of ignorance like you are, but this blog, your computer, your house and damn near every other convenience in your whiny little life comes directly from the use of oil.

Matter of fact, oil has made your life so much easier then your forebearer’s lives were, that you now have time on your hands to whine and moan about ridiculous ideas instead of spending your days gathering wood and food, like they did.

What person in their right mind wants to return to the days of overwhelming hardships, especially over some conjured up fake junk science nonsense?

It’s insane.

And the American people are not insane like you liberals are.

By GOPs got to go

August 5, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

This Dem has always voted for capital punishment. Can you say Mr Sparky? Femoral Stick? Say hello to my little friend?

By V-Dog 85

August 5, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

Concerned Citizen,

Well and truly said.

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this

Paul,

Thanks for the link. There are quite a few piling up in the comments over there and I dropped yours off too.

Bosch,

Wouldn’t you think the prison would have control of that guy’s diet?

By Miss Congeniality

August 5, 2008 5:10 PM | Link to this

Another Dem for capital punishment here! I say that guy obviously wasn’t too fat to commit his crime, so he is certainly not too fat to die.

By Concerned Citizen

August 5, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

Wiser @ 4:55PM. I do not know any R’s or D’s who oppose the death penalty in certain situations. Oh well, maybe my pastor.

Common sense, whatever that is for most people, should be utilized. Some crimes are so heinous ‘frying’ should be the only option, and make it quick! No point in feeding the creep for 20 years prior to zapping.

However, the system is filled with petty criminals who could best serve their sentence performing community service. If the jerk fails to report to his/her assigned duty on a given day, then toss them in the ‘big house.’ Of course, we now have all that privatizing….hummmm….prison is a big business now. Gotta lockem up and throw away the key.

By GOPs got to go

August 5, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

Management, Every time you post you show yourself to be on the edge of sanity with a pungent for genitalia references. I am quite sure you are on a watch list some where

By Bad S Mitten

August 5, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this

Chuckling out loud,

Was it something I said.

By Bud Wiser

August 5, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this

See if you can count how many Republicans versus Democrats show up singing and protesting at the next candlelight vigil for a death row inmate.

It will probably take less than the fingers you have on one hand.

If you can count, that is.

By NoGovtSchoolForMyKid

August 5, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

My child attends a private school for $5,000 a yr.

Local govt schools spends $17,000 a yr. Local school is over run with non english speaking children.

Not only can they not speak english, but most of the kids that show up for , say , the 4th grade, are illiterate in their native launguage. A 10 yr old kid from a 3rd world country thats never ever been to school a day in their life.

“Do we really think that a government-dominated education is going to produce citizens capable of dominating their government, as the education of a truly vigilant self-governing people requires?” [Alan Keyes]

Im supposed to subject my child to sitting in a class of 37 kids, half of whom dont/cant speak english?

No way Jose! (pun intended)

By NoGovtSchoolForMyKid

August 5, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

My child attends a private school for $5,000 a yr.

Local govt schools spends $17,000 a yr. Local school is over run with non english speaking children.

Not only can they not speak english, but most of the kids that show up for , say , the 4th grade, are illiterate in their native launguage. A 10 yr old kid from a 3rd world country thats never ever been to school a day in their life.

“Do we really think that a government-dominated education is going to produce citizens capable of dominating their government, as the education of a truly vigilant self-governing people requires?” [Alan Keyes]

Im supposed to subject my child to sitting in a class of 37 kids, half of whom dont/cant speak english?

No way Jose! (pun intended)

By AJC/DNC Management

August 5, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

By GOPs got to go August 5, 2008 5:15 PM Management, Every time you post you show yourself to be on the edge of sanity with a pungent for genitalia references. I am quite sure you are on a watch list some where

Now if I had only referenced “genitalia.”

My guess is that I am on several “lists,” and I am in fact proud of that, considering what total losers the keepers of the lists probably are.

Bozo.

By FRANKLEEDARLING

August 5, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this

RACISM IS ALIVE IN GA. CANT HAVE MY KIDS GO TO SCHOOL WITH MEXICANS

By Concerned Citizen

August 5, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this

I wouldn’t know how many R’s vs. D’s who show up for the early morning sing, when a death row inmate is about to receive the ‘big chill.’ This is not one of my ‘march for’ walks; hence, I can only speak for myself, and I know no D’s or R’s (personally) who are opposed to the death penalty.

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

“My message to Democratic lawmakers is this: if you’re really for increased American energy production, then prove it by putting it in writing. Sign the discharge petitions House Republicans are circulating that will force votes on energy legislation Speaker Pelosi refuses to bring to the floor. And sign onto the American Energy Act, our ‘all of the above’ plan to increase conservation, innovation, and American energy production, instead of doing the Speaker’s bidding by voting against bringing it to a vote. If you aren’t willing to put it in writing, you’re fooling no one. You’re siding with the Speaker of the Drill-Nothing Congress and radical special interests that favor higher gas prices, at the expense of energy-strapped American families.”

Well, Dhimmicrats, the ball is in your court.

By AJC/DNC Management

August 5, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

This Denver headline says it all about the true nature of the dimwitocrat:

With DNC in Mind, City Bans Carrying Urine, Feces

So check it out, the cops blow out the liberal’s brains with their “crap cannon” and then they won’t let the little dimwits pick it up and take it with them?

Thee injustice of it all.

By AJC/DNC Management

August 5, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this

Now neighborhoods are breathing more freely. A hairdresser in Ameen, a militia-controlled neighborhood in southeast Baghdad, said her clients no longer had to cover their faces when they left her house wearing makeup. Minibuses ferrying commuters in Sadr City are no longer required to play religious songs, said Abu Amjad, the civil servant, and now play songs about love, some even sung by women.

“They lost everything,” said the Sadr City government employee. “The Sadr movement has no power now. There is no militia control.”

We won.

By RW-(the original)

August 5, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

This guy thinks Obambi has gone beyond World emporer, which is about what Barry seems to think he is, and moved right on to making him God on earth.

You’ll have to scroll down since I kind of liked the top story and didn’t bother with the hyperlink for this one.

By AJC/DNC Management

August 6, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, Urinal BLAH,BLAH,BLAH, DimoKrats BLAH,BLAGH, BLAH, Bozos

YADA, YADA, YADA (insert mindless cut and paste)

Morons……

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