Home > Thinking Right > Archives > 2008 > July > 31 > Entry

Surprise! Enforce law and illegals go.

Supporters of amnesty for illegals presented the option as either rounding up for deportation 12 million people in this country illegally or giving them a path to citizenship that amounted to amnesty.

Opponents never quite penetrated with their counter-argument: No, nobody’s suggesting rounding up 12 million people by force. The alternative is to enforce the law. Deport those who commit crimes. Verify immigration status when possible. And over time, those here illegally will self-deport.

Guess what? Opponents were right. Illegals are going home. A Washington think tank, the Center for Immigration Studies, released a study Wednesday reporting that stepped-up enforcement efforts are working. The population of illegals has declined 11 percent in the past year, from 12.5 million to 11.2 million.

The economy certainly has something to do with it. New home construction is down; those who are employed in housing may have returned to their home countries to await a revival. if so, efforts to secure the borders will be essential to manage the future flow of illegals.

The immigration debate has long been based on false choices — either round them all up or let them stay.”Opponents of immigration enforcement claim that there are only two ways to address illegal immigration: amnesty or mass deportation,” noted U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith, a Texas Republican. “But there is another and better option and that is to simply enforce current laws.”

In public life, we get the behaviors we buy. Signal that laws matter by enforcing them and people pay attention. Wink and waive and they don’t. Simple.

Permalink | Comments (241) | Post your comment |

Comments

By BFKaJ

July 31, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I preface my comments by affirming that I think immigration laws are foolishly uneconomic generally and adversely affect the quality of life in our American society and in our world. I also subscribe to the ancient aphorism – I think originally attributed to US Grant – that the surest way to repeal of bad legislation is its strict enforcement.

I agree that stricter enforcement of the immigration laws has led to a departure of many of those hard working guests. I note the concurrent decline in the American economy. While I have read other arguments that suggest the immigrants follow the economy – entering only when the economy is good and leaving only when the economy is bad – my sense is that those arguments are backwards. It is the arrival of hardworking foreign talent that spurs economic growth, and a hostile repudiation of those guests damages the economy generally. So we get the economy we deserve

By Shawny

July 31, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

Illegals are not going home because of enforcing the laws. Illegals are going home because we are not building houses.

You are right, though, that enforcement is the key. We aren’t serious about deportation, like we should be.

It is annoying when you hear someone ask a candidate about developing a ‘path toward citizenship’. There IS a path toward citizenship, and the law has been in place since around 1920. Follow it, or get out, as you are a criminal, not a migrant. A migrant is a law abiding individual that has followed the law and now resides here legally. Migrants are welcome.

By TW

July 31, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Strange. It seems as though those who scream alarm aver the ‘illegals’ are of the same mind set that advocated the ovens for the ‘Jews’ and the trees for the Nig gers.

Hmmm.

WWJD?

By The Love Hack

July 31, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

Wooten’s not going to be happy until we get a full fledge persecution of Hispanics in this country. Start enforcing immigration laws and bands of vigilantes will be out in force weeding out Mexicans from their lairs. I’m surprised there isn’t a reward for each Mexican captured. It’s easy to hate and despise Mexicans. In public life, America gets the behavior it posse’s.

The problem with any immigration final solution is that we dont have enough little Oliver Hardy half-moustaches to go around while we solve our national problem.

Get on the phone, Wooten, report your local immigrants to the immigration officials today.

The only person suggesting that a solution is viable is you. Deport them all at once is your idea. Amnesty is your word. You use “amnesty” like flip flop, not in any consideration of the masses of humanity exiled from Mexico, but rather to make sophomoric debating points during a campaign.

Flip flop. Amnesty. How can the democrats ever win anything with genius spin like that?

By Reality

July 31, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

Don’t kid yourselves, make it harder for them to work and they will turn to crime. Pay attention, yall. It is already happening.

By AJC/DNC Management

July 31, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

Iraq and the United States are close to a deal on a sensitive security agreement that Iraqi officials said on Wednesday satisfies the nation’s desire to be treated as sovereign and independent. While the current version does not specify any exact date, officials said, President Bush’s recent acknowledgment that withdrawal was an “aspirational goal” has revived the talks and pushed them closer to completion. “The intention is to maintain full sovereignty for Iraq with close observation of the security situation, which will determine exactly when Iraq will no longer need American forces,” said Jalaluddin al-Sagheer, a member of Parliament from the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq who is close to the negotiations.-Urinal/PMS

Well, well, after all of thee liberal whining, moaning and hair pulling, we are right back to where we started, the Bushie plan that all of the sycophants and goonies from the left wing mocked and drew cartoons about the last 5 years, when they stand up, we’ll stand down.

Bwa.

And notice how thee Lord High Dimwit Surrender To al Qaeda Plan has been tossed overboard?

~~~~~

A House panel voted Wednesday to cite Karl Rove, formerly President Bush’s top aide, for contempt of Congress as its Senate counterpart explored punishment for alleged misdeeds by other administration officials, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah-Urinal/Moonbat

While the American people suffer every day under the yoke of high energy and food prices, the sucka-ss libs in Congress splash around on their rubber floats in the Fever Swamps.

Insane in the membrane.

~~~~~

So, let’s see: The Bush Justice Department this week indicted a prominent Republican Senator for corruption less than 100 days before he’s up for re-election. But we are supposed to believe that Bush Justice is corruptly politicized because some of its dimmer bulbs asked job-seekers about their ideological leanings.

The Republicans can hire Martians to work in their Justice Department, if they so desire, it is nobody’s business but their own.

After all, you left wing cry babies had no problem with Klintoon doing it.

Ms. Gorelick was Deputy Attorney General under the hapless Janet Reno, serving as Hillary Clinton’s eyes and ears at what truly was the most political Justice Department since Richard Nixon’s. We recall that Ms. Gorelick attended a meeting where officials leaned on special counsel Don Smaltz to curb his probe. After her departure, Clinton Justice maintained a running feud with FBI Director Louis Freeh over investigating the campaign finance scandals of 1996, among other things. Having since made $26.5 million over five years at Fannie Mae, Ms. Gorelick is apparently now campaigning to be Barack Obama’s Attorney General.

Duh.

~~~~~

Here’s a pro Lord High Dimwit campaign advertisement if there ever was one:

McCain vows to work with Pelosi- Urinal/DNC

Just imagine, holding hands and chanting Bushie Sucks together.

Or perhaps blinking mindlessly in unison.

WTF?

~~~~~~

*30 die as fighting escalates-Doom and Gloom/DNC

Why the horror!!!

Pakistani troops battled Islamic militants in a valley near the Afghan border Wednesday, killing 25 insurgents and losing five soldiers as escalating combat threatened the new government’s policy of offering peace to pro-Taliban groups.

Yeah, it’s like the Pakistanis are saying “here, scumbag, have a peace of this.”

Hahahaha.

Notice too how thee Urinal thinks surrendering to al Qaeda is threatened.

Sick.

By CJ

July 31, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

Jim wrote, “In public life, we get the behaviors we buy.

Ain’t that the truth?

Here’s the behavior we’ll be buying if we elect McCain for President: The Official John McCain Flip-Flop List

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 31, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this

Judge orders White House to find, preserve e-mails

If some Connecticut Democrats get their way, Sen. Joe Lieberman will be greeted at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota by a gigantic inflatable rat.

Anyway, bravo to Joe Klein for fighting back. As for Feith and Perle and Kristol and Bolton and Wolfowitz and Wurmser and Brooks and Krauthammer and Wieseltier and COMMENTARY and THE NEW REPUBLIC and the WASHINGTON POST editors and the rest of that crowd, they should shut up and volunteer at Walter Reed. For the rest of their lives

For what it’s worth, Barack Obama was also asked about the Britney-Paris ad: “You know, I don’t pay attention to John McCain’s ads, although I do notice he doesn’t seem to have anything to say very positive about himself. He seems to only be talking about me… You need to ask John McCain what he’s for and not just what he’s against

Four members of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, including Committee Chairwoman Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) yesterday called on EPA administrator Stephen Johnson to resign. That would be a very good idea

Hilarious Quote of the Day: “What you’re going to see is a great debate. Which is what the American public deserves. None of this negative stuff, though. You won’t see it come out of our side at all.” - Cindy McCain, Today Show, May 8, 2008.

Krugman: “[T]here was a combination of power without oversight and a deeply creepy cult of personality (which was obvious long before we got the latest specifics.) I think we were lucky to get out of this with democracy more or less intact

St. Pete Times eviscerates McCain and his campaign strategy of “lies and distortions”

RAND STUDY: War on Terrorism fundamentally flawed and doomed to fail Robert Arena • 7/30/2008 05:37:00 PM ET • Link 47 Comments • reddit • FARK • Digg It! Today’s Washington Post covers what amounts to a near complete repudiation of the Bush administration “terrorism” policy since 9/11. The fact that the study is coming from the RAND Corporation (SourceWatch profile) is huge. RAND, while technically non-partisan, has a long history shaping a hawkish US strategic policy. (To get a flavor of just what type of organization RAND is, Donald Rumsfeld has sat on their Board of Trustees.)The Bush administration’s terrorism-fighting strategy has not significantly undermined al-Qaeda’s capabilities, according to a major new study that argues the struggle against terrorism is better waged by law enforcement agencies than by armies. The study by the nonpartisan Rand Corp. also contends that the administration committed a fundamental error in portraying the conflict with al-Qaeda as a “war on terrorism.” The phrase falsely suggests that there can be a battlefield solution to terrorism, and symbolically conveys warrior status on terrorists, it said.

Former Mississippi senator Trent Lott, who left Congress last year to become a lobbyist, is alleged to have “urged witnesses to give false information in a Hurricane Katrina lawsuit.”

Pentagon Attempted To Cover-Up KBR’s Negligence In Electrocution Of U.S. Soldier

Bush threatens to veto equal pay for women.

2005 White House hiring directive: ‘Place as many of our Bush loyalists as possible.’

Secretary Of Energy Repeats Katrina Oil Spill Lie: ‘Not One Case’ Where Oil ‘Spilled In The Environment’

Olbermann: White House sent me talking points too, ‘I still have them.’

Coburn’s Obstructionism Leaves 44,000 Paralyzed Veterans In The Lurch

Newt’s ‘American Solutions’ Is A Front Group For King Coal

By TW

July 31, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

CJ - thanks for your list of McSame Flip-Flops

Sadly, I really don’t think it’s his fault - two reasons

  • Old as dust. Probably the only upside of his getting elected might be his attention to Alzheimer drugs

  • Often times his handlers forget to change his diaper and the toxicity gets into his brain and causes him to not know what he is saying

  • By John

    July 31, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

    I’m all for more enforcement and glad that it might be working, but could the decrease in population also be due to the housing crunch?..builders are building less which means less jobs for construction workers (i.e., mexican immigrants)

    By Chicago

    July 31, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

    Nice work TW. Next time you see a black person, please use that same quote and tell me what happens; after he’s done kickin your a$$!

    By Ray

    July 31, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

    BFK,

    A “guest” is someone who is invited into your home, not someone who entered it illegally. There is one helluva difference here.
    We are a nation of laws, passed by the Congress and enforced by the courts. That’s the way it has worked for sometime now. When we ignore the laws for political or economic gain, we become an unprotected nation that is at risk from the outside. Try doing this in Switzerland or in Mexico for that matter.
    These “guests” are pushing the limits of the infrastructure in many communities running up the costs of health care, education and welfare subsidies. Once again our Congress sits on their collectives asses and doesn’t enforce our laws. Who knows, there might be a vote or two out there.

    By NewsFlash

    July 31, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

    I thought McCain supported amnesty. Seriously though, at least Mr. Wooten gave an honorable mention to the primary reason for the reduction in the Hispanic population in Atlanta and the surrounding counties — the lack of jobs. The poultry processing industry here in Georgia can only absorb so many Hispanics so the rest had to head out to the fields and start picking tomatoes, jalapeńos, etc. Of course, the Hispanics working in remote locations in fields and factories are not nearly as visible to folks like Mr. Wooten as those that were building houses. Out of sight, out of mind.

    By RCH

    July 31, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

    As many times I wrote on this subject and was vilified I stand vindicated.When one part of the equation was removed( jobs,housing,free medical,etc.), in this case employment,tens of thousands picked up their marbles and left.It didn’t take a big round-up. Unlike the pro-illegal immigrant crowd always ranted, there wasn’t mass arrests or individuals stoped on the street. They simply left.

    They(illegals) also left us holding the bag of tens of millions of dollars that where siphoned off for their use.(schools, medical,food stamps,etc.) I hope you do gooders are willing to pay that bill with your money not mine.

    By Sam

    July 31, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

    Migrating to America legally is, and should be, a long, drawn-out procedure meant to protect the interests of American citizens. It involves more than simply jumping a fence and heading north in pursuit of free health care, education, food stamps, and other handouts paid for by U.S. taxpayers.

    Legal immigration means enduring rigorous hurdles like background checks to detect a criminal background or possible ties to terrorists; medical examinations to detect diseases still prevalent in third-world nations, but long since eradicated here; proof of financial solvency so as to prevent newcomers from becoming a burden on U.S. taxpayers, and testing for knowledge of American history and English skills.

    Those who have jumped a fence into America in order to avoid our immigration checks are not immigrants. Rather, they are invading criminals, with no claim whatsoever to the welcome mat extended to legal immigrants.

    Such people do not deserve recognition or sanction by the United States, and should be rounded up and deported as soon as possible, without exception.

    Another word game played by pro-illegal aliens is to call these miscreants “undocumented.” The implication of this term is that the invaders are simply missing a piece of paper or two, probably some unnecessary bureaucratic red tape designed to keep brown people out.

    In truth, illegal aliens have invaded our nation, leaving America vulnerable to undetected crime, terrorism, disease, and financial devastation at the hands of people with no legal or moral justification for being here.

    By TW

    July 31, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

    Chicago - if I were scared of people who weren’t exactly like me I’d be a republican.

    WWJD?

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

    Good morning bloggers, and a special good morning to you Mrs. G - you are very busy, I hope Joe is doing okay and not feeling neglected. :-)

    Immigration. Sigh. Tough subject. I have to say I mostly agree with Mr. Wooten. The polar opposites are always the extreme and in my opinion, very unrealistic. Which brings many to the dillemma of what is the best solution to the problem.

    It’s pretty obvious to me that the influx of illegal immigration is due to the lack of enforcement of the laws and the immigrants willing to work for practically nothing helps business (which leads to a reduction of enforcement).

    Also, many forget, this has been happening for over 20 years. Americans and their perpetual ADD state of minds forget that. Suddenly NOW, it’s forefront on everyone’s mind. Why now? Well, that’s another discussion.

    Many people who disagree with my political viewpoints are always quick to say, well leave, “Delta is ready when you are.” Those type statements are ignorant, because it demonstrates that the sayer of such comment does not realize that most countries in the Western world actually DO enforce immigration laws (not perfect, but better than we do).

    What’s the solution? I don’t know, but if I were in charge, border protection would be the biggest priority for national security. I think it is also important to find out WHY immigrants are here. Some are here for temporary work and some are not.

    We need to make becoming a citizen more timely, if that’s what one choses, the reason many are “illegal” is that it takes YEARS for some to become “legal.”

    So in other words, a combination of “amnesty” (I hate that word, but it’s the best I can come up with right now, I’m on my first cup of coffee) and border protection is the best plan.

    But it’s also important to keep in mind that illegal immigrants are human and even if you don’t like their actions, deserve to be treated with civility.

    By Sam

    July 31, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

    Migrating to America legally is, and should be, a long, drawn-out procedure meant to protect the interests of American citizens. It involves more than simply jumping a fence and heading north in pursuit of free health care, education, food stamps, and other handouts paid for by U.S. taxpayers.

    Legal immigration means enduring rigorous hurdles like background checks to detect a criminal background or possible ties to terrorists; medical examinations to detect diseases still prevalent in third-world nations, but long since eradicated here; proof of financial solvency so as to prevent newcomers from becoming a burden on U.S. taxpayers, and testing for knowledge of American history and English skills.

    Those who have jumped a fence into America in order to avoid our immigration checks are not immigrants. Rather, they are invading criminals, with no claim whatsoever to the welcome mat extended to legal immigrants.

    Such people do not deserve recognition or sanction by the United States, and should be rounded up and deported as soon as possible, without exception.

    Another word game played by pro-illegal aliens is to call these miscreants “undocumented.” The implication of this term is that the invaders are simply missing a piece of paper or two, probably some unnecessary bureaucratic red tape designed to keep brown people out.

    In truth, illegal aliens have invaded our nation, leaving America vulnerable to undetected crime, terrorism, disease, and financial devastation at the hands of people with no legal or moral justification for being here.

    By Fix-It

    July 31, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

    The American people are so gullible. If our corrupt government wanted to stop illegal border crossing they could. But why would the dimacrats want to alienate there core voters? All of the boneheads that don’t want to stop it should go down to the border towns in Texas and see what is happening to the American way of life, they would do a 180 on their views. I am all for people immigrating here, but please get in line we can’t accommodate the whole world. And for the idiots who say “They are doing jobs that we won’t do” what a lie that is. We survived several hundred years with out illegal immigration and if it stopped tomorrow we would still get those jobs done.

    By T

    July 31, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

    Does anyone know if this “amnesty” thing give them social security numbers and a bill for back taxes?

    By NewsFlash

    July 31, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

    BFK, your perversions are duly noted.

    RCH, why not ask the people who hired the illegal aliens to pick up the tab instead of those who like to think of themselves as do gooders.

    Andy, blah blah blah back at you.

    By Paul

    July 31, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

    Mrs. Godzilla 8:45

    I was interested in the back story on your Joe Klein piece - what’s all the fuss about? Seems Klein says most neocons are Jews. Hmmmm. Getting into dangerous ground, there. Does Klein assert they’re practicing? Orthodox? Reformed? That they put Israel’s interests above America’s? There was this line from the link:

    [[I am anti-neoconservative. I think these people are following very perversely extremist policies and I really did believe that it was time for mainstream Jews to stand up and say, “They don’t represent us, they don’t represent Israel.”]]

    Don’t I recall many on the Left criticized those who called upon //practicing// Muslims to condemn Muslim extremists. Wasn’t there a lot of criticism for, oddly enough, denouncing terrorists as Muslim? Wasn’t the point made they weren’t really Muslim, or if they were, they were perverting Islam?

    But when it comes to neocons…

    I’ve written in the past for my disdain for the Perles and Wolfowitzs of the world. But making the case because they’re Jewish and tying it into the “Israeli lobby” - isn’t that the stuff of farfarrightwing conspiracy groups?

    McCain’s going negative will cost him. (Maybe as much as Obama’s refusing public funding will cost him?). (Joke). There are better ways to raise issues of fitness for office than with the personal attacks.

    Citing the St Pete paper for going after McCain has all the punch of citing the Young Republicans for going after Obama.

    Rand Study: I cited them once on the AJC forum, my argument was criticized because Rand is a think tank heavily funded by the Defense Dept. But that doesn’t matter to the Left, now. Progress!

    [[2005 White House hiring directive: ‘Place as many of our Bush loyalists as possible.’]]

    2009 White House hiring directive: “Do not place Obama loyalists. Ensure diversity. Place as many McCain loyalists as possible.”

    [[Olbermann: White House sent me talking points too, ‘I still have them.’]]

    Olbermann goes hyperbolic with over the top rhetoric and the White House sends him rebuttal view. Oh, the horror! The attempted media manipulation!! Will our free press survive?!!?

    How does Newt have credibility?

    Ray

    [[We are a nation of laws]]

    Mostly we want the laws that we like enforced. We don’t want inconvenient laws that we don’t like enforced. Like the ones about not inflating deductions at tax time. Or those laws that dictate the maximum speed we can drive under the best of conditions. Or the ones that have us declare what we actually paid for that used car so we can pay a fair tax.

    Personally, I’d like to see the same attention and sanctions paid to employers. There are some instances, but it’s pretty spotty.

    General question - with all these illegals leaving, we should see a drop in unemployment, ‘cause there are a bunch of unemployed Americans who want the jobs illegals have take, right?

    By The Love Hack

    July 31, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

    Bosch, WTF R U doing? This isn’t myspace. Simply state your opinion and move on. You still wont get read, but you also wont waste so much band. Even your dingdong is a waste of Waistband.

    Lets just take a look at what point Bosch eventually made: My critics are ignorant. I’m ignorant of the solution. I’m my own worst critic.

    Debating points: zero

    Grade: zzzzz

    Criteria Match 4: moron

    next.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    July 31, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

    Putting words in McBushie’s mouth:

    “Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they’re going to try to do is make you scared of me,” Lord High Dimwit said. “You know, he’s not patriotic enough, he’s got a funny name, you know, he doesn’t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.”

    It was the KKKlintons who said that, homey.

    So this is what American policy debate has come down to, after all these years of adult leadership, thoughtful and carefully planned growth that led to us being the world’s lone superpower, now we are reduced to some dimwit whining and moaning about things that do not even exist.

    Show me where McCain said anything about the “dollar bill” or “looking different than any other president” or making an issue out of this uptight cry baby’s name.

    You got one thing right, Nancy, you ain’t no patriot.

    Day in and day out saying America isn’t good enough, throwing us under the bus for the amusement and pleasure of some foreign morons.

    FY, Obama.

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

    Of course Jim Wooten is for legal immigration. He was an advocate for following the law yesterday and he’s the same today.

    Yes, our ‘illegals’ work hard. Yes, they are a family loving people. Yes, most are religious. That said, they have still broken the immigration laws of the USA.

    Are we to excuse our Latin neighbors of illegal activity and not do it for others? People around the world desire American citizenship. Are we to pick and choose whom to ignore while forcing the law on others?

    The law must apply to all. Exceptions should be rare, not in the millions. A middle road plan has been suggested as humane and fair. I’m for that one. But it must be on a firm legal basis.

    AJC/DNC Management @8:31

    I couldn’t help but smile over your perfect description of Congress.

    While American people suffer every day under the yoke of high energy and food prices, the sucka-ss libs in Congress splash around in their rubber floats in the Fever Swamp. (Like a Rove investigation I might add.)

    Well said, Andy, and right to the point.

    By NewsFlash

    July 31, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

    Fix-it, that would be George Bush that said those people are doing the jobs that the rest of us won’t do. More precisely, they’re doing the jobs at the level of pay and benefits that no one else is willing to accept.

    By Ray

    July 31, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

    TW,

    Your moronic posts are like a pimple on someones a*. They are sophomoric, debasing and totally unnecessary. They serve no purpose except to point out how absolutely stupid you must be. Stick to the subject without all of the defaming rhetoric. Your ignorance is showing.

    By Dennis

    July 31, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

    Mr. Wooten writes, “In public life, we get the behaviors we buy. Signal that laws matter by enforcing them and people pay attention. Wink and waive and they don’t. Simple.”

    Well, what is the proper response here to Mr. Wooten’s statement?

    He bought the Bush administration’s lies for years and years (seemingly, he still does) and he wanted us to buy into those as well. And he has berated those of us who would not and did not.

    You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

    By Paul

    July 31, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

    Love Hack

    I counted eight points or issues raised by Bosch. It’s a shame you couldn’t address any of them.

    AJC/DNC Management

    Aren’t those remarks by Obama form of ‘going negative?” I’ve already noted his constant linking of “Bush-McCain” to apply antiBush feeling to McCain is less than honest. Politically astute, maybe, but he knows better than what he’s saying.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    July 31, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

    Why don’t y’all just run Cynthia Tucker for president?

    Did Obama Accuse McCain of Running a Racist, Xenophobic Campaign?

    “John McCain right now, he’s spending an awful lot of time talking about me,” Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said today in Rolla, Mo. “You notice that? I haven’t seen an ad yet where he talks about what he’s gonna do. And the reason is because those folks know they don’t have any good answers, they know they’ve had their turn over the last eight years and made a mess of things. They know that you’re not real happy with them.”

    Obama continued: “And so the only way they figure they’re going to win this election is if they make you scared of me.

    I’ve seen racism in campaigns before — I’ve seen it against Obama in this campaign (more from Democrats than Republicans, at this point, I might add.)

    Lord High Dimwit Cry Baby playing the race card, what an awesome display of “leadership.”

    Losers.

    By RCH

    July 31, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

    NewsFlash

    I agree.That should be part of the equation for stopping illegal immigration. Knowingly hiring an illegal is a million dollar fine and a year in jail for the CEO or president of the firm. I bet it would stop today

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

    Dusty,

    Middle of the road plan? Can you elaborate?

    By Mrs. Godzilla

    July 31, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

    Bosch,

    Good morning to you too!

    Joe sits close beside me in the evenings and early mornings as I do my homework. He’s got a new collar!

    Joe allows no illegal immigration into our yard to be sure! Any lizard making his way over the fence, ends up outside without his tail - literally! (Lou Dobbs would just love that!)

    As always, your post was well done. I agree that securing our borders should be first and foremost. This is a national security issue that the Administration and Congress has failed on.

    I also consider the humanitarian aspects. I still stick with that whole, whatsoever you do do the least of my brothers concept.

    Let’s do our part to save the world today, shall we?

    By CommunistAJC

    July 31, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

    Mrs. Godzilla, Shouldn’t you be giving Bill Clinton some good head?

    By The Love Hack

    July 31, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

    Anyone notice the celebrity idol comparison ad McCain ran against Obama yesterday?

    My comment the day before that ad ran was:

    McCain’s campaign is on idle. Obama’s campaign is on idol.

    I also write often: “Obama: Leading Americans to America”. etc.

    I really have my finger on the pulse of the campaign, dont you think?

    By george hussein washington

    July 31, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

    After seven and a half disasterous years of stinking Repuke rule, the chimp has finally decided to enforce the immigration laws? More Lies from the Father of Lies, the GOP, may they all git skin cancer and die real slow like…but painfully. Just to ruin your day further, the main stream news media last night broadcast stories confirming BIG LIE of McCancerFace, that is that DRILL, DRILL, DRILL is really more about LIE, LIE, LIE….They confirmed my observation that we do not have the drilling rigs or crews to exploit offshore oil reserves in anything less than five to 30 years….Despite Dirty Ball’s simple minded comment that “we are already getting oil from off shore waters.” All existing oil rigs are firmly committed under contract for the next three to five years, and all rigs currently under construction are under contract for the next three to five years of production, mostly to forgeign countries and oil companies. Most of the construction is occurring in Korea, Norway, and China…we have little capability left in that area. It seems that our ship yards are only capable of building over priced war ships, which consume oil. Did you know that a nuclear powered aircraft carrier requires a tanker full of aviation fuel every three days to maintain air operations? Smart attack submarine captains follow the long trail of tankers to the aircraft carrier battle group, call in their fellow hunter killers, and launch a coordinated attack. But crybabies would call that a war crime….I call dropping bombs on third world villages a war crime….any how, Kick a Repuke Today….

    By Road Scholar

    July 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

    Mr Fix-It:

    By Road Scholar

    July 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

    Mr Fix-It:

    By Road Scholar

    July 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

    Mr Fix-It:

    By Road Scholar

    July 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

    Mr Fix-It:

    By Road Scholar

    July 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

    Mr Fix-It:

    By Road Scholar

    July 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

    Mr Fix-It:

    By Road Scholar

    July 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

    Mr Fix-It:

    By Bob

    July 31, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

    Illegals need to be deported. There is still not of that going on. I’ve heard some say they will shoot before being taken in for deportation. Vigilante Justice isn’t the answer, but the primary function of government is to protect it’s citizens. If we can’t get rid of invaders who have hurt this country, we don’t need government.

    By CommunistAJC

    July 31, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

    george hussein washington troglodyte, I thought the father of all lies in politics is your daddy Bill Clinton? If Bush lies all the time then indict him and impeach him. What’s that? Oh yeah, they can’t do it. Why? Because princess Nancy doesn’t have any balls. Literally and figuratively speaking. SO go sell stupid somewhere else. I’m sure the mental patients over at Daily Kos would love to hear your rhetoric. I mean, you guys/gals are full of s&*^ anyway and love to eat each others arses.

    By JeremiahWright

    July 31, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

    Hope it’s true. I hope the rest leave.

    TW, Jesus would demand the laws of the land be enforced.

    By Mrs. Godzilla

    July 31, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

    Hey everybody

    Communist AJC/DUH/ANDI/RW/RB/whateever

    posts

    {{By CommunistAJC

    July 31, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

    Mrs. Godzilla, Shouldn’t you be giving Bill Clinton some good head? }}

    Anybody here wanna bet DUH wouldn’t know the difference between good and bad? That would require experience

    For the normal people here, sorry, but this creature really needs to learn to behave like a decent human being.

    He’s just plain gross.

    By Mrs. Godzilla

    July 31, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

    Exxon Mobil broke its own record for “the highest-ever profit by a U.S. company,” as second-quarter profits rose 14 percent. “Net income in the quarter rose to $11.68 billion, or $2.22 a share, from $10.26 billion, or $1.83 a share, last year.”

    John McCain addressed a town hall meeting in Rochester, NY, today, and the line that everyone will be talking about, or would, if anyone in the media felt like applying any scrutiny to the McCain campaign, is this:My friends, we have to drill offshore. We have to do it! Oil executives say within a couple years we could be seeing results from it. So why not do it? We need to do it.

    washingtonpost.com — Campaign contributions from oil industry executives to Sen. John McCain rose dramatically in the last half of June, after the senator from Arizona made a high-profile split with environmentalists and reversed his opposition to the federal ban on offshore drilling. The amount given? $1.1 million. $892,000 more than the month before.

    pieces of the same puzzle, eh?

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

    Good morning Paul,

    Isn’t Love Hack’s post kind of like someone saying, “I never call anyone names you stupid Mother F&*cker!?”

    Always a classic. :-)

    Mrs. G -

    I LOVE Joe’s new collar. Lou Dobbs. What a character. I had to stop watching him, he was getting a little over the top for me. He always focuses on the problems, but like I said earlier, he does not see the humanitarian aspects of it, or rather does not think there is one.

    “whatsoever you do do the least of my brothers concept”

    That definitely gets lost in the hate.

    Save the world? I’m with you! A little bit at a time, right?

    By A Average Joe

    July 31, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

    Answer me this, what benefit do I, the average Joe receives from immigration legal or otherwise? None. I am not a corporation relying on labor that is cheap to make obscene profits. Call me selfish but if you haven’t noticed, benefits offered by corporations such as retirement and medical is nearly non-existant. For the average Joe, the quality of life, once you have retired, is in decline with more and more having to rely soley upon meager social security that may or may not exist in 20 years. If there is minimal, or no competition in the labor market, there is no benefits offered. The economy peaks and declines in cycles and labor demands do the same, this is nothing new however, wages during some cycles anymore stay the same. Across the board cost of goods and services have risen but wages have not. Why should they? Corporations can hire a legal or illegal immigrant and pay current or less wages than a citizens. Corporation keep the wages low and increase the cost of goods. Its a win win situation while the U.S. public rely’s upon credit cards to survive. How many people have $25,000.00 cash in savings? I doubt very many however, I bet many have $25,000.00 in credit card debt. This was unheard of 25 years ago. Bankruptsy in this country is at a rate never before seen and still creditors are posting record profits. Think about it. Wages are stagnet do to abundance of cheap workers. These cheap workers are mainley immigrants. There standard of living has increased 10 fold once they crossed that border. The avaerage Joe’s standard of living decreases everytime a immigrant crosses that border. Free trade and immigration is not free. The average Joe pays for it

    By BFKaJ

    July 31, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

    Dear Ray @ 8:55, I suspect you and I will find no ground for agreement. I certainly perceive that no guest would ever just “drop in” to visit you. You magnify the genius of legislation qua legislation – I perceive the imputed wisdom of the Congressional overlords is grossly overstated. When we pass uneconomic laws for the sake of racism or envy or just because we do not like the way strange little people with strange little languages smell, we injure the economic fabric of our country; I think there is no reason to magnify the genius of such legislation, and there is no economic justification for the constraint on immigration.. You suggest, “These “guests” are pushing the limits of the infrastructure in many communities running up the costs of health care, education and welfare subsidies.” When you have a stupid welfare law, the solution is not to enact immigration restrictions, you revise your stupid welfare laws. Address the underlying cause of the problem, not the symptom. As to the comparative economic contributions of our immigrant friends, I have less distress from immigrants than I do with our home-grown thugs and layabouts. Quite the contrary, I have the greatest admiration for people who desperately wish to be here, to carve out a place in the world, who will endeavor to overcome handicaps of language and prejudice just to compete. These immigrants, especially our Latin American and Korean friends, are religious, hard-working, self-reliant, personally responsible, and every one of them is a potential republican conservative – I want more of them here.

    By SaveOurRepublic

    July 31, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

    First of all, the illegal immigrant population far beyond the 11.2 million number reference by Mr.Wooten. Given the mass influx (thanks to open borders & the American taxpayer subsidies to attract the illegals), I’d estimate the number at 20-30 million (easily).

    While I’m certainly not a “bleeding-heart”, I hold no animosity towards most (non-criminal) illegals themselves. My anger is directed at the gutless, traitorous, Globalist puppets on “Crapitol sHill” who continue to allow open borders, undermine the Border Patrol, and are either neglectfully ignorant or in traitorous support of (very real) North American Union (NAU)/SPP. The NAU is using NAFTA as it’s foundation…as is the NAFTA/NASCO “Superhighway” (within it’s Kansas City “inland port”). The NAU is a direct affront to U.S. sovereignty, borders and the future of our Constitutional Republic!

    Despite the window-dressing INS/ICE immigration raids (trotted out by the Neocons to appease their largely deceived voter base), the true problem lies with the innumerous incentives for illegals to come here. The solution to the illegal invasion is multi-faceted…end birthright citizenship (for anchor babies), end all taxpayer subsidies for illegals, build the Pacific to Gulf border fence, aggressively enforce ALL immigration laws & most importantly…end NAFTA & the NAU asap. This being said, the Globalist Elite owns the majority of those on “Crapitol sHill” (save for patriots like Ron Paul), so it’s extremely doubtful most of the solution will ever be implemented. As Americans, all we can do is educate one another on these facts & demand our elected officials protect our sovereignty, borders and future of the (very quickly dwindling) middle class!

    http://www.numbersusa.com

    By A Average Joe

    July 31, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

    Answer me this, what benefit do I, the average Joe receives from immigration legal or otherwise? None. I am not a corporation relying on labor that is cheap to make obscene profits. Call me selfish but if you haven’t noticed, benefits offered by corporations such as retirement and medical is nearly non-existant. For the average Joe, the quality of life, once you have retired, is in decline with more and more having to rely soley upon meager social security that may or may not exist in 20 years. If there is minimal, or no competition in the labor market, there is no benefits offered. The economy peaks and declines in cycles and labor demands do the same, this is nothing new however, wages during some cycles anymore stay the same. Across the board cost of goods and services have risen but wages have not. Why should they? Corporations can hire a legal or illegal immigrant and pay current or less wages than a citizens. Corporation keep the wages low and increase the cost of goods. Its a win win situation while the U.S. public rely’s upon credit cards to survive. How many people have $25,000.00 cash in savings? I doubt very many however, I bet many have $25,000.00 in credit card debt. This was unheard of 25 years ago. Bankruptsy in this country is at a rate never before seen and still creditors are posting record profits. Think about it. Wages are stagnet do to abundance of cheap workers. These cheap workers are mainley immigrants. There standard of living has increased 10 fold once they crossed that border. The avaerage Joe’s standard of living decreases everytime a immigrant crosses that border. Free trade and immigration is not free. The average Joe pays for it

    By A Average Joe

    July 31, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

    Answer me this, what benefit do I, the average Joe receives from immigration legal or otherwise? None. I am not a corporation relying on labor that is cheap to make obscene profits. Call me selfish but if you haven’t noticed, benefits offered by corporations such as retirement and medical is nearly non-existant. For the average Joe, the quality of life, once you have retired, is in decline with more and more having to rely soley upon meager social security that may or may not exist in 20 years. If there is minimal, or no competition in the labor market, there is no benefits offered. The economy peaks and declines in cycles and labor demands do the same, this is nothing new however, wages during some cycles anymore stay the same. Across the board cost of goods and services have risen but wages have not. Why should they? Corporations can hire a legal or illegal immigrant and pay current or less wages than a citizens. Corporation keep the wages low and increase the cost of goods. Its a win win situation while the U.S. public rely’s upon credit cards to survive. How many people have $25,000.00 cash in savings? I doubt very many however, I bet many have $25,000.00 in credit card debt. This was unheard of 25 years ago. Bankruptsy in this country is at a rate never before seen and still creditors are posting record profits. Think about it. Wages are stagnet do to abundance of cheap workers. These cheap workers are mainley immigrants. There standard of living has increased 10 fold once they crossed that border. The avaerage Joe’s standard of living decreases everytime a immigrant crosses that border. Free trade and immigration is not free. The average Joe pays for it

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

    Now now Paul.

    You wouldn’t accuse Obama of being politically astute but he knows better than he’s saying, would you?

    Obama would make the best used car saleman in history. He would convince you of his complete honesty, his smiles are for YOU, he knows exactly what you are looking for, and he has the perfect model for your needs. While he shakes your hand gently and pats your arm, the stark aged hulk without adornments behind him stands ignored.

    The other salesmen stand around entranced and applaud his performance. Obama would being an upward spike to the used car business. Only the buyer will later learn of the salesman’s plan. That is, to sell the model no matter what happens later.

    By The Love Hack

    July 31, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

    It wouldn’t take much to turn us all into illegal immigration vigilantes.

    If that’s the war you want, keep blogging your fears and hatreds.

    It’s very easy to hate. Very easy. Be careful, most of you do not know what you do when you blog your fears. it’s contagious. Read the logic of hate, it’s irresistible.

    We are leaderless. We are on the verge of becomming an unruly mob.

    Obama 08: Leading Americans back to America.

    By CommunistAJC

    July 31, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

    Mrs. Godzilla, Then you admit that Bill Clinton is just gross? Or that he left a bad taste in your mouth? I’m sure most people look at what I typed as comedy. But libs like you hate comedy when it comes roaring in your direction. You can dish it but you can’t take it. Don’t you have feminist parades to attend? Any Vagina Monologue cameos to make?

    By CommunistAJC

    July 31, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

    Obama Hussein 08: Leading Americans in to communism.

    By george hussein washington

    July 31, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

    CommunistAJC has been sent to detention hall in summer make up school for stupid kids….commie was caught picking his nose and eating snot while posting nonsense on school computers….Big Boys said to pick on him at recess….Little girls too….

    By zeke

    July 31, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

    There is absolutely no reason we cannot round all of the illegals up and send them back to their home countries! It is nothing wrong or inhumane with protecting our country and enforcing it’s laws and Constitution! There will be no shortege of workers, if, if, the federal and state governments will purge the welfare and unemployment rolls and put able bodied people to work instead of giving them a handout equal of the money that they can make working a legitimate job! Our population would go down, only legal immigrants will be here, the economy will surge, state and national spending would go down, taxes would not have to be raised and we will be a safer more humane society! What about the children born here? Simple! If your parents are not here legally, the constitutional provision of citizenship does not apply!

    By The Love Hack

    July 31, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

    Dusty, maybe you should try another tact. Obama as used car salesmen is too easily dismissed by voters. It’s hack.

    Why dont you try something original. I know, I’ll give this to you free since you obviously cant think for yourself: The Pregnant Obama!

    Yes, Obama is not only just like Brittany and Paris in that they’re idols, but also because he has a womb!

    Anyone notice the celebrity idol comparison ad McCain ran against Obama yesterday?

    My comment the day before that ad ran was:

    McCain’s campaign is on idle. Obama’s campaign is on idol.

    I also write often: “Obama: Leading Americans to America”. etc.

    I really have my finger on the pulse of the campaign, dont you think?

    Go dusty, go!

    By Paul

    July 31, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

    Hello Bosch

    Either that, or “I can’t address the issue so I’ll call names.”

    Kinda the same thing I heard this morning with Rep DeFazio (D-OR) this morning. Interviewer asked, given Spkr Pelosi said two years ago the Congress was going to take action to lower the price of gas, and that was when gas was $2.50 a gallon, what exactly has Congress done?”

    His first word “George Bush…”

    Average Joe 9:55

    [[Answer me this, what benefit do I, the average Joe receives from immigration legal or otherwise?]]

    You had the great good fortune to be born in America.

    I’d call that a pretty good benefit that happened only because your ancestors were immigrants.

    Pathetic.

    He was then asked why the Dems don’t support offshore drilling even though three fourths of those polled do.

    His response? “We do support drilling.” But he never addressed offshore.

    By Tuffy, The Airborne Soldier

    July 31, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

    Damn. Just when I thought that Wooten and me would never, ever, agree on a point. Ooops, he went and did it.

    I am not against immigrants that are legally and rightfully in our country. It’s the other ones that are here illegally stressing our infrastructure and taking jobs aways from American citizens. Hell, get a work visa, something. We don’t need more laws, a fence, or more politicing. We need to enforce the laws. Period. No subcommitte meetings, capitol hill hearings, and endless pages of testimony. ENFORCE THE FRIKKIN’ LAW. If they are here illegally assess a fine, give them 30 days to get the process started, if not, time to go home. Simple. Damn. Me and Wooten agreed on something. I need to see my shrink…

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

    Average Joe,

    The middle class usually gets the brunt end of all financial deals. I agree that most Americans are really irresponsible with their credit cards.

    I feel that most Americans are unwilling to do without, not basic necessities like food, but get confused about what is needed, what is wanted, and do not conserve enough.

    But don’t blame it all on the illegal immigrants. Most come here to work and have a better life.

    How does it affect you? The food you eat for one. Ever buy chicken nuggets? Ever go on vacation and stay in a hotel? Ever go to a restaurant? Bought a newly built home lately?

    It affects us all, and all of us are to blame.

    By Bronco

    July 31, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

    Let’s not make laws and then not enforce them. Thats why they are called illegals they are illegal. Mexicans , indians, polish it doesn’t matter. Like my neighbors who have junk cars out the Wizoo sitting in the yard in clear view of the highway, but does anyone enforce the “laws” no they turn their head for some reason.

    By Chicago

    July 31, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

    TW, typical redneck Georgian comment. For you to use that defaming term, and then end your post with WWJD is off the wall. Since your so bold how about you do what I said then. Just make sure you don’t use it when I’m around, or I will kick your a$$!! Believe it.

    By Fix-It

    July 31, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

    NewsFlash, I want some of what you are smoking! If we removed 100% of the illegal aliens I would bet you that not only would those jobs get done, Americans would do them. If your logic is correct, how did we survive for the last 300 years? All you beading heart liberals want to talk about the cost of the war and the lives that have been lost, how come you never mention the 300 to 400 billion a year that the illegal aliens cost us? How come you forget that illegal aliens kill more people in America daily than in Iraq and Afghanistan combined?

    By Paul

    July 31, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

    Dusty

    Many have criticized our extended primary season for being ‘too long.’ It appears a benefit is time to get to know the unknowns. Maybe.

    I see Ludacris is in the news, again. The Obama campaign has finally learned the value of an early smackdown. But - and we’re seeing this time and time again - with friends like that, who needs enemies?

    If Obama loses, I’m not sure who’ll be the most responsible - McCain, or Obama’s “supporters.”

    By CommunistAJC

    July 31, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

    zeke, You see, if we sent all illegals back to Mexico then the democrat party would lose half its voters. Most of their voters are uneducated to begin with. Illegals just add to the democrat party. That’s when the race card comes up. In a libs mind, right is wrong and wrong is right. They protect baby killers, child molesters, and criminals of every kind. Why else do you think 99% of trial lawyers are democrats? I mean look at John Edwards, he spent most of his life chasing ambulances and spends more time these days chasing tail. Hello love child. But hey, to a lib, its perfectly normal to cheat on your wife who has cancer.

    By Eva

    July 31, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

    First off, not all illegals are Hispanic - people need to get off that kick. I know plenty of illegals from Europe/Afria/Australia.

    I’m an immigrant, and recently sworn in US citizen. It was a long and arduous process, with plenty of red tape, FBI checks, etc. And yet I’m still being told by natural born citizens to get the *&#@ out of their country - I get the warm fuzzies every time I hear those words!

    Illegal immigration makes all immigrants look bad - I get the questioning glance from some people, no doubt they’re wondering if I’m legal or not. Employers have a lot to answer to over this - stricter enforcement of fines for hiring illegals needs to be in place. Harsher penalites for repeat offenders. Have a system set up which makes it easy to verify a SSN.

    Issuing drivers licences to illegals is a whole other debate; no licence, no auto insurance. No insurance could leave you with a hefty bil should you happen to have an accident.

    Open borders make it very easy to enter the US. More so from some (if all) European countries, where a US visa isn’t a requirement for any stay less than 90 days. So people pop in for a holiday and conveniently forget to pop back out again, making the rest of us look bad.

    By CommunistAJC

    July 31, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

    Chicago, This may be the first time I agree with you.

    By BFKaJ

    July 31, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

    Dear Mrs. Godzilla @ 9:53, I think we would agree that the leftists thought additional freedom to permit energy production was a bad idea when oil was $35/barrel and still think it is a bad idea @ $125/barrel. The intellectual consistency is admirable. I thought the leftist view stupid at both price levels.

    I credit McCain for changing his mind with changing circumstances, disproving Carl Sagan’s argument. “In science it often happens that scientists say, ‘You know that’s a really good argument; my position is mistaken,’ and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn’t happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time someting like that happened in politics or religion.”

    By Paul

    July 31, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

    Bosch - Average Joe

    My 10:11 [[He was then asked why the Dems don’t support offshore drilling even though three fourths of those polled do. His response? “We do support drilling.” But he never addressed offshore.”]]

    was supposed to line up with my remarks on DeFazio.

    By The Love Hack

    July 31, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

    My name is pancho I live on the rancho I make five pesos a day. I go see my lucy I play with her P_ssy she takes my five pesos away.

    That was the first anti immigrant song/joke I ever heard. People played the marijuana card in the twenties and thirties to deport Mexican illegals. They claimed that pot was being imported along with cheap labor. It was a lie, but….

    Now, conservatives are trying to put the terror war together with illegals. It’s a lie, but…..

    Do I like having illegals around? No. Could I be inspired to vigilantism? Yes.

    Is that going to solve anything? No. We can make this country a living hell if we want.

    Most campaign debates are distractions. As we stumble toward the conventions and the Veep Opts. If this were a horse race, we are approaching the far turn. The conventions are the far turn.

    Down the stretch, as it becomes painfully obvious that Obama will win in a total historic landslide, the conservative tone will get even nastier than it is now.

    Let it go, let the GOP be, my fellow democrats. We’ve got a country to save, and a world to convince.

    By Common Sense

    July 31, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

    To Commy:

    That comment directed toward Mrs. Gozilla was not comical! You need to ease up on the BS!

    Now Dusty! It takes a use car saleperson to convince a nation of people who like negative news about other to make them feel better!

    The political process is extremely weak when all we see is a negative ad about someone wearing a flag pin.

    Everyone in the POLITICAL scene does not wear a flag pin but yet we question someone patriotism!

    How many people on the blog wear a US flag pin? After we are all Americans we should all have one on right now!

    Dusty what you show is your unbelieveable bias towards a new candidate of a different skin color and background!

    If Americans companies step up to the plate and pay americans workers we not have any problem with legal immigration.

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

    Bosch @9:40

    You asked about the “middle of the road plan”. Perhaps you missed Jim Wooten’s fifth paragraph where he explains it exactly. I repeat it for you:

    The immigration debate has long been based on false choices—either round them all up or let them stay. “Opponents of immigration claim there are only two ways to address illegal immigration: amnesty or mass deportation” noted U.S.Rep Lamar Smith, a Texas Republican.”But there is another and better option and that is to simply enforce current laws”.

    Hope that helps. Enforcing laws is the middle road plan to do what is already legal.

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

    Fix-It,

    I think you forget that most of us are here because of immigrants. That’s been happening here now for about 400 years.

    Bronco,

    Do you know for certain that your neighbors with the junk cars are here illegally? Just curious.

    Eva,

    I think it’s a knee jerk reaction for many to see you and automatically think you are illegal.

    Nice point about the other “illegals” - I have a friend who was here and was technically “illegal” for a while who is from Germany - tall, good looking, blue eyes, blond hair, looks like an underwear model - people fall all over themselves just to be around this person and claim just to know them. It always makes me laugh.

    By CommunistAJC

    July 31, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

    Common Sense, As I said earlier, libs will find that offensive. Just like every joke aimed at them.

    By Eva

    July 31, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

    Bold:Common Sence

    Italic:If Americans companies step up to the plate and pay americans workers we not have any problem with legal immigration.

    While this is all well and good, what about legal immigrants, green card holders, work permit holders, etc, who have followed the directives put in place by the INS? Surely they have a right to work for American companies also?

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this

    PoFo aka The Love Hack,10:11

    My story was better than your story…yah yah yah….you seem a little off your feed these days. Whatsa matter?? You’ve got your finger on what.. you say??

    Paul,10:18

    AJC posted this morning that Ludacris had knocked McCain etc. I tried listening to the video and could hardly make much sense out of the jumble. I can’t believe someone would actually pay money for such stuff. Evidently they do.

    Anyway, both Lud & Obama got their two cents worth of publicity. That’s what it’s all about I think.

    Maybe the Irish Tenors will come out for McCain.

    By NewsFlash

    July 31, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

    • By Fix-It July 31, 2008 10:18 AM NewsFlash, I want some of what you are smoking! *

    Dear “you need to be Fixed (for the sake of humanity)” Fix-It,

    I don’t smoke. So, to make up for it, smoke some extra just for me. As for you baseless and illogical claim regarding who would do the jobs if 100% of the illegal aliens were removed, it’s not simply an issue of who does the work. There’s also the issues of how much one is paid and the benefits one is offered and the taxes paid by both the employer and employee. Perhaps you better not smoke any extra to make up for what I don’t smoke. Instead, I suggest that you quit breathing in all that polluted air. As for the rest of your rambling, where on earth did you get all that crap? You bleeding heart liberal! Is that what you were trying to type? Go back to school or go back to bed. Either would be an improvement.

    By Ray

    July 31, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

    I don’t think that most intelligent Americans object to Obama because of his race. He is just the wrong black man. The “anyone but Bush” crowd has grabbed onto the first guy down the pike and he is the wrong one. I don’t think that most Americans with any intelligence want higher taxes, pandering to foreigners for “approval”, a socialist in the White House that will make the profits on my 401K plan go down by at least 30% in his first year in office and making my heirs pay an astronomical amount to settle my estate when I pass on. These are just common sense views, not based on his race but on his political philosophy. I agree with Dusty, I would not buy a used car from this man, under any circumstances. He has more teflon than slick Willy and we don’t need another one of those.

    By getalife

    July 31, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this

    This reminds me of Mike’s Why toon

    Yes, enforce the law and lock up w and his thugs.

    I agree.

    By TW

    July 31, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

    Chicago - your eagerness to kick somebody’s backside only exposes your cognitive overload.

    Perhaps the real source of your angst stems from your citizenship haveing been the product of your mother having had too much to drink one night - and subconciously you feel ill about pointing a finger at those who truly have to work their tails off for citizenship?

    BTW - being that the rightwing has used the ‘Awmighty’ to justify the slaughter of countless Iraq civilians, your concern over His name being on the same page as an insulting word defines sophomoric.

    WWJD?

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

    Paul,

    I didn’t see your 10:11, sorry. I saw Pelosi on the Jon Stewart show the other night. I think she’s been affected by the too much plastic surgery syndrome. It’s caused her brain to become stretched.

    But, I think it is difficult to try to pass legislation when Bush continues to veto and there isn’t a majority to overturn it. Our government is completely stagnant.

    Dusty,

    Thanks. I misunderstood you - I didn’t know you were referring to Mr. Wooten. I agree - enforcing the already existing laws seems like the best plan to me, along with absolute zero illegal crossing of the borders (I know that’s impossible, but it’s a dream).

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

    Common Sense, you should not credit yourself with something you do NOT posses.

    I don’t like Obama’s campaign or his arrogant assumption of unvoted superiority, his shady background and his anti-war fixation. What color are those??

    I didn’t like Kerry’s campaign. I thought his profile was shady in connection with his medal throws, his talks with the enemies. He is WHITE.

    I thought Gore was a semi-smart totem pole. He is WHITE.

    I still think Bill Clinton is a disgrace to the USA for his unethical behavior. He is White.

    What YOU show is assumed bias for those with whom you disagree. You are prejudiced.

    By The Love Hack

    July 31, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

    Dusty is having so much fun being a moron on this blog, that who am I to stop her.

    I was only trying to help. But I think I ruined her fun, so I’ll stop.

    Blog on Dusty Simples.

    The right has nothing on Obama. Nothing. They’ve got that he’s a celebrity. That his political talent is sans pier. That he is a natural leader. That his name is only two letters away from Adolph Hitler. That his wife speaks her mind.

    They have NOTHING.

    This is the most entertainng campaign in years. I am serious when I say that I have the combination of words that can even the playing field for McCain. Notice how everything I write ends up in a campaign ad. The candidates are reading me, little old me.

    Okay, here’s the three simple words that McCain needs to run to beat Obama: Klatu sucksalada Dicktoe.

    bwa

    No seriously, try an ad that shows Obama is gay. It worked against the GOP, maybe it will work against the Dems. Obama is as gay as Sen. Craig!! It…..could…..WORK!!!

    fools.

    By Midori

    July 31, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this

    it all becomes abundantly clear: they are all democrats.

    that’s where the truth lies.

    take a drunken, brain dead, incompetent republican over ANY capable democrat.

    that’s where the truth lies.

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

    getalife,

    Those were GREAT!!! Thanks for posting that.

    My oldest will be entering college this fall, Environmental Science major. He’s going to save the planet. I’m so proud.

    :-)

    We were talking this past weekend about the waste of materials in packaging. It’s amazing.

    I saw a great show the other night called Rare Planet. Premise: we don’t really need to worry too much about the planet, if humans were to all die today, it would take about million years for the planet to recover from the damage we’ve caused. That’s about a second in Earth time.

    Our real concern should be about humanity itself and doing what we can to insure that WE don’t become extinct. Or not, our choice.

    By Paul

    July 31, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this

    Ray 10:50

    I’ve read a number of opinions and scenarios about how Obama will tax us to death and McCain won’t. This column from a financial advisor shows pretty clearly:

    In spite of the rhetoric, both candidates are promising about the same level of tax cuts for everyone.

    And

    No matter who wins, you’re gonna get hosed.

    Link: Tax Inflation

    By AJC/DNC Management

    July 31, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

    The worst possible news that the Pinko Nation could ever have received:

    UP! Economy grew at 1.9% pace in second quarter…The Commerce Department reported Thursday that gross domestic product, or GDP, increased at an annual rate of 1.9 percent in the April-to-June period.

    After all thee ceaseless and never ending whining and moaning from the Doom and Gloom, still no recession.

    Hahahahahahahaha, dumbas-ses.

    I’ll bet you are just heart broken.

    By big George

    July 31, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this

    Wooten, as usual, has his head up his butt. Illegals or whatever are here because there is a need for their services. When the need is no longer there, they leave. Validating the idiots who have been in charge for the past several years appears to be Wooten’s agenda!

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

    getalife,

    Forgot something. Seurat is one of my favorites. Devoted some research time to him in grad school. Pointillism fascinates me.

    By Redneck Convert

    July 31, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this

    Well, seems like to me nobody’s looking at this the right way, which is the redneck way.

    If the illegals have left because of no jobs, then jobs must cause the illegals to come in the 1st place. Jobs cause illegal immigration. Its plain as the nose on your face.

    That’s why we need to elect old man McCain. If we can ship a few million more jobs overseas or close more businesses down on account of the economy for four more years, we won’t have a immigration problem. And America can be saved for us rednecks and Fambly Values.

    No need to thank me. Have a good day everybody.

    By CommunistAJC

    July 31, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

    Dusty, As most educated people know, liberals like to play the race card when others call them out for the communist that they really are. Obama Hussien is a complete moron. I don’t care that he was “educated” at Harvard. I mean, Bush was educated at Yale but to liberals he’s a moron. I’d trust someone who actually has accomplished something his/her life over someone who, in his mind, only imagines himself as president. Obama has never accomplished anything, other than being born white/black, but hey, that is not an accomplishment. Geraldine was absolutely right when she said that the only reason he’s here is because of his skin color. So please, all you brainless libs please come up with ONE good reason we should vote for this guy. And I mean reason, not because he is not Bush. That argument went down the drain in 04.

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

    Paul,

    “No matter who wins, you’re gonna get hosed”

    Bingo. Amazing that some haven’t caught on yet. Some are JUST a teensy bit more honest about it.

    By CommunistAJC

    July 31, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this

    AJC/DNC Management, Saw and read that. Looks like Obama and Nancys hope for a recession is put on hold again. Oh, and gas prices are dropping. Hmmmm. Could it be that the thought of drilling here is scaring OPEC? Liberals really are stupid.

    By Paul

    July 31, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

    getalife

    Howard Wolfson, who was Hillary Clinton’s campaign Communications Director, is now a consultant for Fox News.

    He’s doing a good job with Democratic analyses. On Fox.

    Just thought you’d like to know -

    By Mrs. Godzilla

    July 31, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

    Just in: A federal district court in DC has overruled the White House-backed motion to dismiss the House lawsuit to enforce contempt of court against Harriet Miers and Joshua Bolten.

    By NewsFlash

    July 31, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this

    Get your red hot Bush on a Stick[tm] right here. That’s right folks. Get ‘em while they’re hot. One free with each purchase of a car, new or used, from honest Dicks Used Cars.

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

    OK Bosch.

    By the way, I think Native Americans would say that we are ALL anchor babies of illegal immigrants.

    I do enjoy the Dine’ of the American SouthWest and all the tribes with whom I have worked. They have fought for this country when we had to fight enemies.

    I have heard an old Navajo “Code Talker” speak proudly of his service to his country. I have seen illegals running across the desert adjoining Mexico on the Tohono Oodom Reservation much to the dislike of tribal police. I heard of the hundreds of illegals that die in the Sonoran Desert every summer. That number should be down this year.

    Anyway, there are many mixed opinions about illegals. But I agree with your “humanity appeal” AND following the law.

    See ya later. Gotta get busy.

    By The Love Hack

    July 31, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

    If we could get back to Wooten’s topic:

    The bottom line is this: Is America better without the illegals? Would I like it if they all went home? YES, YES, A THOUSAND TIMES YES.

    Then let’s all form posse’s and citizen patrols and go get them.

    That’s the only way to enforce existing laws. there are only two agents for every thousand immigrants. You do the math. we need citizen vigilantes to root the illegals out. Deputize. there’s a campaing slogan for McCain: Deputize, deputize, deputize.

    That’s what you want. You want a war. Well, lets just use a little reverse psychology to get the right to STFU about illegals. Lets round them up!! Wooten, you start, you have connections, get an armed mob ready to go, and we’ll smart-mob a barrio. lets start at Buford Highway. Aw hell, lets just give Buford Highway back to Mexico where it belongs!

    Whose with me? Lets deputize!!!!

    By Paul

    July 31, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

    There’s a question, an idea I’ve been thinking about every time the idea of “experience” or accomplishment” comes up

    Much has been made of Obama’s experience, or lack thereof, particularly as he’s vying for the most powerful position in the world.

    Many here cite Pres Reagan as a great President, if not in policies then in the ability to communicate, to share his vision and positive outlook and inspire others to follow suit - a quality some define as “leadership.”

    When he ran for governor of California (a state larger, more complex and of greater economic power than many countries) his only qualification, if I recall correctly, was President of the Screen Actor’s Guild. But lack of such ‘experience’ didn’t hold him back from winning the governorship.

    And when he ran for President? His experience at the Federal level was only to the extent he interacted with the Feds while serving as governor. Foreign policy? Zero.

    But in both the race for governor, then for President, people put aside the question of ‘experience’ and elected a candidate based upon other factors.

    Is Sen Obama that much different?

    By GMAN

    July 31, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

    CommunistAJC is a pedophile, Dusty is a drag-queen, and AJC/DNC Management sleeps with sheep. Hows that for name calling you Retardican perverts!

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

    Love Hack, 10:59

    I am leaving. If you want to “quote” me, at least use something I have posted. Thank you.

    Bye now…

    By Blind Homer

    July 31, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

    Obama and McCain will both open their arms wide and invite millions of illegla aliens to invade out country as a path to citizenship. This is because they both belong to the party of the rich and powerful. When you live in gated communities, can afford the best private schools and health care you don’t have to deal with the nasty side of the invasion. It just becomes a plus, ensuring cheap labor and lots of consumers for diapers and baby food, if you just label them in Spanish. Back later, I’m off to a Mexican restaurant for lunch!

    By Ray

    July 31, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this

    Paul,

    I was talking about the repeal on the ban on estate taxes that will most assuredly be on Obama’s agenda. Also raising the capital gains tax rate from 18% to who knows where. Both of those things are primary issues for those of us who are retired and living on fixed incomes from retirement plans and are not salaried. I am not sure that the “tax cuts” in the article will make up the short fall.

    By CommunistAJC

    July 31, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

    GMAN, Please see a good Proctologist to have that XXL dildo pulled out of your 300lb arse.

    By RW-(the original)

    July 31, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

    Communist AJC/DUH/ANDI/RW/RB/whateever

    Mrs. G aka in the news,

    Cut the crap. Bookman has already confirmed to you that I only post under one name. Just because you can’t control yourself doesn’t mean you should ascribe your inadequacies to others.

    As always the AJC and in this case Jim Wooten in particular has my express permission to confirm or deny this moron’s delusions.

    By Fix-It

    July 31, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

    NewsFlash, you must be ignorant, where do I get those numbers, our government, idiot. Do you think illegal aliens cost us nothing? Maybe you need to get an education, or go down to any hospital and see how it is used as a doctor’s office for illegals. Look at the crime statistics at the FBI web site, you may get some education there. Look at the true cost of illegal immigration and you may change your mind, but I doubt it. When do facts get in the way of liberal thinking? Wake up America nothing is free.

    By Hillbilly Deluxe

    July 31, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

    The reason there is no serious effort to control illegal immigration is because Democrats see them as potential future votes and Republicans see them as cheap labor. The real way to cut off the spigot is to go after those who employ the illegals. But of course we can’t do that can we?

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

    Paul,

    You’re on a roll with good points today. I will also add to what you wrote regarding Obama -

    He also beat the Clinton political machine - how’s that for an accomplishment?

    I often tell people who question his newness - that is EXACTLY one of his biggest selling points with me.

    Hasn’t had time to get “Washingtonized” so to speak.

    By Common Sense

    July 31, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this

    Dusty that is why you called him a used car salesperson.

    Senator has been involved in numerous scandals, but yet you still support him!

    What do you know about Senator McClain who left his previos wife for a rich young pretty wife!

    High standards huh!

    Just the fact that Senator Obama is a strong family man is a hell of lot better than a person who is saying anything to get elected. First I am a super hero I can defeat the terrorist! Drill, Drill, Drill! I am able to leap tall building in a single bound! Speaking open lies about a candidate he helped to increase oil prices. WHAT DID McClain do in 25 years in the senate to prevent gas prices from increases Oh, he voted not to drill!

    So Dusty,AJC you support a person who is actually vote for 95% of President Bush policies?

    CAN YOU SAY ELISTIST LOSERS!

    By The Love Hack

    July 31, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

    If we could get back to Wooten’s topic:

    The bottom line is this: Is America better without the illegals? Would I like it if they all went home? YES, YES, A THOUSAND TIMES YES.

    Then let’s all form posse’s and citizen patrols and go get them.

    That’s the only way to enforce existing laws. there are only two agents for every thousand immigrants. You do the math. we need citizen vigilantes to root the illegals out. Deputize. there’s a campaing slogan for McCain: Deputize, deputize, deputize.

    That’s what you want. You want a war. Well, lets just use a little reverse psychology to get the right to STFU about illegals. Lets round them up!! Wooten, you start, you have connections, get an armed mob ready to go, and we’ll smart-mob a barrio. lets start at Buford Highway. Aw hell, lets just give Buford Highway back to Mexico where it belongs!

    Whose with me? Lets deputize!!!!

    BTW: I’m very proud that Duhngsty loves my material, and I invite them to feel free to steal, that way, folks’ll think that they’re the geniuses instead of the twin-lipped meat thermometers and strap-on dribble glasses their faces truly R.

    that’s really funny, isn’t it? what a picture I can paint. What an amazing talent with words I have.

    zzzzz (I put myself to sleep that time)

    McCain 08: Deputizing Americans to outsource our immigrants!

    Obama 08: America4America (copyright 08)

    By Paul

    July 31, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this

    Ray

    I don’t think they will.

    There was a good scene in the old series “West Wing” - about a liberal Democratic administration. The issue was increasing estate taxes. One of the administration people asked “Wait a minute. My parents took risks, worked hard, paid taxes, grew their business, lived below their means and saved to pass it on to me and their other kids. What right does the government have to take it from them?”

    Bradley Whitford, who played the Deputy Communications Director, responded, “We’re Democrats. It’s what we do.”

    Great scene.

    In line with your comment, I saw again a reference to Warren Buffet’s line of “the rich don’t get taxed enough. I pay a lower percentage than my secretary.”

    Much of his income comes from investments taxed at the capital gains rate, not the ordinary income rate. He knows that.

    Equity would mean adjusting the rate according to the taxpayer, not an across the board increase on all capital gains.

    I do think the nearyly 500 billion deficit, this year alone, is going to cause a serious reality check and will cause plans to go out the window, for whoever the new President is.

    By GMAN

    July 31, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

    CommunistAJC step away from the little boys!

    By AmVet

    July 31, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

    Yesterday’s article by Jim was really quite a surprise, and a tad refreshing.

    He, at last, gets it, that the inept, corrupt GOP is undeniably imploding. And there is no eloquent actor or commies or war on drugs to save them this time.

    And the current crop of chickenhawks screamed 9/11 to the point where most Americans realize they are little more than incredibly misguided fear mongers without a ounce of courage.

    How else can one explain that ALL of the never-served, never-will neo-cons got positively humiliated in the GOP primaries at the hands of a RINO veteran?

    Any hard-core Republican with an ounce of lucidity left should finally acknowledge that after the debacles of the past eight years, the average American voter has virtually no trust or belief left in them.

    To wit, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Americans who voted for the worst US President ever, have “changed their minds” about his fake conservatism and finally see the ineffectiveness of this hijacked GOP to actually accomplish anything of importance.

    At least not enough to vote for them.

    My point?

    Simple.

    No matter who wins the White House this November, the faux conservatives/neo-cons have already LOST.

    Sure there are still have some ostriches and dopes here who think that because he has an R after his name, he is one of them.

    He is not and never was.

    And the independents, liberals, moderates, centrists, greens, disgusted Republicans and dismayed Democrats all welcome the news.

    01-20-09 The End of an Error

    By Fix-It

    July 31, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

    The fact is illegal aliens cost our economy more every year than does the Iraq war. Try $338 billion a year! Here is a series of links to stories that will detail the cost.

  • $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77
  • $1.9 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
  • $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis.org/articles/200/fiscalexec.html
  • $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
  • $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
  • $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
  • 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
  • $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare and Social Services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

  • (Link not active … was not able to verify this information) $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

  • The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two-and-a-half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
  • During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report. http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
  • The National Policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period. http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
  • In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
  • ‘The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States. http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html#Illegals
  • Total cost is a whopping… $338 BILLION A YEAR!!!

    By Mrs. Godzilla

    July 31, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

    RW

    Jay Bookman confirmed to me that RW always posts as RW from one specific e-mail.

    That does not preclude you from being Duh.

    We know you are pretty savvy, even lowly Mrs. Godzilla has more than one address.

    Even here in my home in the “fever swamps” as all your ID’s like to point out…you just don’t pass the smell test.

    I stand by my belief that RW is Communist AJC, Andi, DUH, RB from Gwinnett, Mad as Zell etc. and is and has been for years A LIAR

    oh, and I am not the only one….

    By NewsFlash

    July 31, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

    Fix-it, your stupidity is showing. In fact, it’s blinding. Now, go back to bed since you won’t go to school, you idiot.

    By RW-(the original)

    July 31, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this

    Mrs. G.,

    Your email has nothing to do with ID’ing yourself on the blog. I would never write a childish statement like the one Commie made to you and you know it.

    As proof I wrote this message using inthenews@feverswamp.com as my email address, but my IP and MAC address will still be the same ones they always are.

    I’m heading out for the day, but Mr. Wooten has my permission to confirm that everything I’ve said is correct as always.

    It’s a shame you don’t make some attempt at growing up, Mrs. ITFS.

    By Hillbilly Deluxe

    July 31, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

    Many years ago I leaned toward being a Democrat. They left me behind. Later on I leaned toward being a Republican. They left me behind. The Libertarians and Greens have no appeal to me. So what do I do?

    By The Love Hack

    July 31, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

    Luckovich’s cartoon blew chunks today. he really is finished. The blog ruined him. AJC kept needling him about being the cartoon boy and stinking real bad and he must have hit Luckovich right between the eyes.

    Today’s Lucko cartoon was terrible. Even Dusty could have done better. And you all know what a fun read Dusty is.

    Obama 08: Taking America in stride.

    McCain 08: Obama is a bad man. Obama is a VERY bad man. I’m going to wish him into the cornfield!

    By Mrs. Godzilla

    July 31, 2008 12:24 PM | Link to this

    RW

    A savvy paid troll most certainly would have access to the hardware required to pretend to be a cast of characters…I believe you are just that!

    It’s a shame that you make no effort at being a real and true American, RW.

    By Paul

    July 31, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

    Hillbilly Deluxe

    Ignore the labels and listen to the person.

    By Common Sense

    July 31, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

    Only the Dummies ( Dusty, AJC, Commy) would believe the Saudis have something to do with the oil prices.

    AJC, you should be ashame to even post such non-sense! When are you guys going to post good information?

    Your candidate who should retire and enjoy the good life with his rich wife( net worth 6.5 billion) instead making retarded statement and looking like he might not make-it thru the day!

    I like senator McClain as a senator!

    Back to the subject we are on the right track of tracking down the illegals and making companies pay who employ the illegals. I am for supporting anyone and everyone but Americans first everyone else second.

    That includes Dusty,Commu and AJC. Hey are you business owners who have illegals working for you? Is that why you are worried President Obama will raise your taxes?

    After all the tax writes you will be o.k.!

    By Fix-It

    July 31, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

    NewsFlash, what stupidity? The facts and links to the government websites are right there. Oh that’s right facts do not mean anything too you. So who is showing their stupidity?

    By Chicago

    July 31, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

    TW- First off my mother is deceased, so don’t go there. So if you really want to go there, just provide an address where we can meet up and I’ll show you!!

    Second, I never said a word about any illegals, just your comment about blacks. You can use all the ‘sophomoric’ words you want, but your misinformed comments precedes you. You’re probably some idiot trailer trash grown man still living at home in his parents basement, but its funny what you can say over a computer that you can’t AND won’t say to someones face.

    By Mrs. Godzilla

    July 31, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this

    McCain’s $520 loafers put ‘elitist’ shoe on the other foot

    FLORIDA: Obama 46 - McCain 44; OHIO: Obama 46 - McCain 44; PENNSYLVANIA: Obama 49 - McCain 42

    ABC: Exxon spends 1 percent of profits on alternative energy.

    Federal judge: White House aides can be subpoenaed

    House Conservatives Employ DeLay-Style Tactics To Kill Legislation That Would Reign In Oil Profiteers

    The latest CNN/Opinion Research poll shows Obama leading McCain nationally by seven, 51% to 44%.

    What the McCain campaign doesn’t want people to know, according to one GOP strategist I spoke with over the weekend, is that they had an ad script ready to go if Obama had visited the wounded troops saying that Obama was…wait for it…using wounded troops as campaign props. So, no matter which way Obama turned, McCain had an Obama bashing ad ready to launch.

    By CommunistAJC

    July 31, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

    Common Sense, Yes supply and demand sets the market. All I was saying is that the price went down right after Bush starts rambling off about drilling here. Coincidence? You tell me. Do you not realize that once Obama Hussien raises taxes you will be effected? Like it or not comrade, your life will be effected. Jobs will be lost.

    By GOPs got to go

    July 31, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

    Now Jim, let’s not forget that it is Saint Ronald who first offered amnesty to illegal aliens back in 1987 thus setting a tone for things to come. And Bush the daddy who first initiated NAFTA prior to his a$$ whipping by Bill Clinton.

    I must admit that I am torn when it comes to illegal Mexicans. I have a long time friend and helper who was able to become legal thanks to St. Ronald. She has worked hard for many years, as has her husband. They have managed to buy homes here and in Mexico for their relatives. Their intention is to return to Mexico after retirement, which they are saving for. No credit cards, just good old cash money. Their second daughter, born here, is in medical school in Mexico. Something no one in their family could have hoped for prior to immigration. She plans on returning to the USA as a Pediatrician. All their healthcare is received on their annual return to Mexico. Again with cash. Since healthcare is SO expensive here, it is more economical to return to Mexico for any thing not emergent. I know what kind of people they are and that they have contributed to our society. On the other hand, I would love to see all the criminal gang members locked up or out of here, as would everyone else I am sure.

    Being in healthcare I see on a daily basis what a drain on the system non-insured patients are. Our hospitals are in a financial crisis. The government continues to slash reimbursement for Medicare and Medicaid. Something has to change on the issue. It is again a tough call. Easy to say, but very hard to do. Especially when you are looking at a sick child.

    I recently had my roof replaced. The client contact was great, a good old Georgia boy. I could not help but notice that ALL of the actual workers were Mexicans. So I thought I was giving my business to an American only to find out the he employs Mexicans. And those Mexicans did a great job, working like dogs up on that roof for 13 hour days. I never asked if they were legal, maybe they were.

    I have not noticed a reduction in the number of Latin appearing individuals. How were those numbers decided upon?

    By The Love Hack

    July 31, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

    Glad you like the material, Chic in the car and the car wont go.

    Someone find out what whiskey BJf drinks and send duhngsty et all a case.

    Obama 08: An America we can trust 2B America.

    McCain 08: A deer. A headlight. A thousand mile stare. We’re still waiting on his answer to that female reporter’s question about birth control vs viagra being covered by healthcare plans. Dont worry, he’ll get back to us.

    bwa

    By Popeye

    July 31, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

    U don’t have to “go” after anyone. Just tell the law breaking contractor who is going to build your house that U don’t want ANY illegal aliens anywhere NEAR your property. If enough people boycott these crooks (what OTHER laws do they break) the problem will soon solve itself. That is the FIRST thing I tell anyone who I hire to work on my property. Works EVERYTIME!

    By O

    July 31, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

    Oh please whatever. Go where? Yeah right. I was an illegal. and when things got tough, I married an American. The illegals aren’t going to leave the US. they just relocate to other states or go even futher underground. and that is horrible for crime. You should be able to id everyone in the country not make it easy for people with no names or faces to commit crimes.

    By O

    July 31, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this

    Oh please whatever. Go where? Yeah right. I was an illegal. and when things got tough, I married an American. The illegals aren’t going to leave the US. they just relocate to other states or go even futher underground. and that is horrible for crime. You should be able to id everyone in the country not make it easy for people with no names or faces to commit crimes.

    By Bud Wiser

    July 31, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

    Anyone miss my early post?

    I wish I could limit it to a “Top Ten”, but Democrats are such an easy target that the hits just keep on coming.

    The Dimwitocrats are voting for Obama because they…

    … think Cuba and China should be able to drill for oil 50 miles from our shores, but we shouldn’t be able to drill for it 100 miles from our shores. I’m worried that some might spill, even though during Katrina not one drop was leaked from over 3200 wells off the shore of Louisiana, or any on-shore storage tanks. It could happen. Maybe.

    …think nuclear power is bad even though France gets 80% of its electricity that way, we have 104 plants operating now that have never had a single death associated with them, the fuel is totally renewable, a kilowatt hour can be produced cheaper than any other way, and there are no atmospheric emissions. Okay, that’s all good, but the problem is, some company might make money and employ people, and I’m against that.

    …think we shouldn’t be using oil anyway. We should fly our airplanes with fermented woodchips. Wait a minute…that would mean we have to cut down trees. Okay, no flying.

    …think killing unborn, innocent babies is fine, and euthanizing old, sick people is fine, but executing convicted guilty murderers is not. Instead, they should have cable, a gym, a library, and full medical care….

    …think we should ignore the fact that adult stem cells are involved in over 90 current cures and treatments, but embryonic stem cells have yet to be effective in even one. It doesn’t matter, we need to destroy those embryos.

    …think showing my generosity by taking one person’s money from him so I can give it to another person who didn’t earn it, is better than me giving my own money. I’m really generous with other peoples’ money.

    …think the government is too small, and we shouldn’t let people take care of themselves. They don’t really know what’s good for them. The government should be making these decisions.

    …think that being allowed to keep more of my own money is a disincentive for me to go out and earn more.

    …think the top 1% income bracket paying 37% of the taxes isn’t enough. And, the top 5% paying over 57% isn’t enough. It’s not fair that these people get to keep some of their money. They should pay their “fair share” even though I’m not sure what that would be.

    …think we should have judges who make up the laws they want, and not be bothered by silly ideas of having elected representatives make laws, or paying attention to what the Constitution actually says, not what they want it to say.

    …think being a US citizen shouldn’t really mean anything and we should give all our Constitutional rights to anyone who wants them - even our enemies. Oops, I didn’t mean we actually have enemies; they’re just people we did something to upset, and we just don’t understand them correctly.

    …think if we just played patty-cake with Ahmadinejad and got to know him, he wouldn’t think we’re the Great Satan anymore, and we could be friends. Oh, and I also believed Kim Jong Il when he said they weren’t making nukes. After all, Jimmy Carter agreed with him.

    …don’t think anything is really worth fighting for, especially America, because we’re the whole reason there are problems in the world anyway.

    …am not interested in people being free. I just want the French, Germans, as well as most of Africa, and the UN, to like us. Also, I really NEED someone to make big decisions for me since I went to public school, and all the big shot Democrats went to Harvard.

    …don’t think the laws of supply and demand are real. I think that’s all just a big Republican conspiracy.

    …am worried about global warming, even though the Earth has been cooling for 8 yrs, the south polar ice cap is growing faster than the north pole’s ice is shrinking, and there is a direct correlation between the change in the Earth’s surface temperature and sun spot activity. That stuff doesn’t matter, what matters is we need to get rid of SUVs. Oh, and I also know CO2 is a pollutant, even though it’s natural and trees need to ingest it to live. Al Gore’s my hero.

    …believe that NAFTA is bad, even though all the trading partners have had an enhanced standard of living, unemployment is down in all three countries, and average wages are up. But, the AFL-CIO is against it, so I am too.

    …don’t think a parent has any business deciding how his child will be educated. This is a job better left to the federal Education Dept. and the teacher’s unions.

    …don’t think anyone should be able to voluntarily put a small bit of his social security into an account that he actually owns and controls. If the -2% return the government is getting you on your social security isn’t enough for you, you’re just greedy.

    …think welfare is great, and if someone doesn’t want to work, even though they can, why should we make them? Instead, we can just take someone else’s income, and give it to them because it would be cruel to make them work when they don’t want to.

    …want socialized medicine, because that way everyone gets the same level of care, and so what if you have to wait three years to get your hip replaced. You don’t need to walk anyway….you can go on welfare!

    …think Bush lied about Iraq even though every intelligence agency in the world said the same thing our CIA did, and all the major Democrats saw the same data and also said the same thing, and they all voted for it. Oh, and we just did it for oil, even though we’re still waiting for that cheap oil….

    …wonder how anyone could you vote Republican? They’re mean. I mean, they want old people to die, they want the environment so polluted even they couldn’t live in it, and they just want to kill people in wars because they like war so much. This is all good for them because….. uh, because… they…. well, it doesn’t matter - it’s just good for them.

    …am for change, and Obama’s for change, and if you’re not changing, you’re staying the same. And Obama’s for the future, and I want to be in the future, because if you aren’t in the future, that’s just so “now”, and I don’t want to be “now”, I want to be in the future. Oh, and I also want hope, and Obama’s for hope, and I hope his hope is hopeful for America. So, I want the hope that in the future there will be change, and that’s what Obama says he wants too. (I hope.)

    Well, enough said. The moronic left is up on their feet cheering by now, so this is for the rest of us…..does it scare you that there are actually people out there that believe this crap? Be scared my friend, and be sure to help at least 3 others to the polls on election day, or take them to the voting office to register, or to vote absentee, just get them out there to VOTE, and VOTE REPUBLICAN!

    Encourage your friends to try to help others also. I am going to the local retirement home near where I live and volunteer to take Republican voters to the polls.

    Here’s some more Democrat reasoning hard at welfare, er, uh, I mean work…..

    I’m voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

    I’m voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

    I’m voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I trust that the bad guys will stop what they’re doing because they now think we’re good people.

    I’m voting Democrat because I believe that people who can’t tell us if it will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don’t start driving a Prius.

    I’m voting Democrat because I’m not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

    I’m voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for redistribution as THEY see fit.

    I’m voting Democrat because I believe three or four pointy headed elitist liberals need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would NEVER get their agendas past the voters.

    I’m voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists don’t have to hide from us over there, they’ll come over here, and I don’t want to have any guns in the house to shoot them with.

    I’m voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. I’ve decided to marry my horse.

    I’m voting Democrat because I believe oil companies’ profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 18.4(revisedactual)% is okay.

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

    Mrs. G.,

    Obama was in a no-win situation with that (troop visit). McCain’s attack ads are getting more and more lame.

    Brittany Spears? What’s next? He’s a space alien? Osama bin Laden’s secret love child?

    Please.

    By Copyleft

    July 31, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

    Wooten’s title is, as expected, dishonest. We haven’t been “enforcing laws,” and those laws have nothing to do with the outflow of migrant workers.

    A more honest title would have been:

    Surprise! Trash your economy and the illegals go home.

    Thanks again, Mr. Bush. You’ve finally solved the illegal-immigrants problem… by making their own country more appealing to them than the disaster we’ve got here.

    By Do-nothing Democrat

    July 31, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this

    And when I say do-nothing, I’m referring to both Democrat voter constituents who do nothing but sit on their butts yet expect a large share of the American pie and Democrats in congress who have done nothing in 18 months of alleged leadership. One wonders, if some speculators are correct and gas prices roll back 25% to $3/gallon by the end of the year, will the do-nothings in Congress congratulate themselves on a job well done? Just sit back at watch them. They’ve already done it on the Iraq surge.

    With crude still dropping, how far can gas fall and can it make it back to $3 this year? Because of changes in consumption patterns, gas prices could fall sharply and fast.

    Where’s that flaming liberal pansy who was all shouting about Obama’s polling last week? Gee, one would think with the media 100% behind Obama, an idiot nation who sees him as an entertaining rock star, and a host of other pluses in his corner, that Savior Obama would be a HELL of a lot higher in polling than he is now, especially after last week’s dog & jackass show in Europe.

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that Barack Obama now attracts 45% of the vote while John McCain earns 43%. When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 48% and McCain 46% (see recent daily results). McCain is viewed favorably by 56% of voters, Obama by 55%. Tracking Polls are released at 9:30 a.m. Eastern Time each day.

    You over emotional morons on the pathetic left who are already saying President Obama had better start thinking what IF???

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

    Hi Ya’ll,

    Just wanted to check in on the subject of the day. Obama is an arugala and chocolate protein bar eater, socialist, elitist, commie car salesman.

    Anyone who even knows what arugala is MUST be a European loving elitist. I bet his terrorist wife only eats arugala too.

    All theses food references are making me quite hungry. HHHHMMM, what should I have for lunch? I know it will not be arugala. I need meat, probably pork chops.

    Toodles

    By AJC/DNC Management

    July 31, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

    Why is the pinko answer to every question censorship?

    Hoyer also joined House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) in strongly suggesting that he would support reactivating the Fairness Doctrine, telling CNSNews.com that he is interested in “ensuring the availability of fair and balanced information to the American public.”

    People do not want to listen to middle aged children whine and moan, that is why Airhead America is so far gone into the dumps.

    Maybe if you libs educated yourselves and grew a spine, people would tune into you like they do Limbaugh.

    Or you could force your way onto the radio and make people listen to you, yeah, that’s the American way.

    Kowards.

    By ricky bobby

    July 31, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

    SPRINGFIELD, Mo. (AP) - Democrat Barack Obama, the first black candidate with a shot at winning the White House, says John McCain and his Republican allies will try to scare them by saying Obama “doesn’t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.”

    This babbling idiot just doesn’t know when to quit on unfounded and unproven accusations against Republicans on race, does he?

    The Clintons raked him over the race coals, as did former Dem veep Candidate Geraldine Ferraro, who said “Obama wouldn’t be where he was if he were white.” He and his camp said NOTHING.

    Can you believe these liberal Dummycrat hypocrites?

    By Fierce one

    July 31, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

    We scroll past you, Buttgeyser, cause most of us dont wear facemasks for protection from your spurt.

    You dont have to comment anymore today Buttslicer, we know what you’re limitations are.

    It’s a good man who knows his own limitations, buttsprayer, so be a good man.

    Obama 08: America4America (copyright 08)

    Bosch should read Luckovich before he comments.

    If you uberpudwits cant even keep up with the AJC, then just go back to myspace where you came from and make new friends. Giggle. .

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

    Ah yes, Mrs. Godzie DOES use other IDs..1:05.

    ID Thief @1:05.. now up for adoption. Is housebroken. Contact obama.com for more information.

    By Polly ID jacker

    July 31, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

    Alert at 1:05. What an idiotic p.o.s. liberal. You idiots on the left who post here all day must not have day jobs - or if you, you are in a menial simpleton position and probably wonder why you can’t get ahead in life. No wonder you all vote for the modern marxist liberal neocomms called democrats.

    By ricky bobby

    July 31, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this

    SPRINGFIELD, Mo. (AP) - Democrat Barack Obama, the first black candidate with a shot at winning the White House, says John McCain and his Republican allies will try to scare them by saying Obama “doesn’t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.”

    This babbling idiot just doesn’t know when to quit on unfounded and unproven accusations against Republicans on race, does he?

    The Clintons raked him over the race coals, as did former Dem veep Candidate Geraldine Ferraro, who said “Obama wouldn’t be where he was if he were white.” He and his camp said NOTHING.

    Can you believe these liberal Dummycrat hypocrites?

    By Common Sense

    July 31, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

    Hey Dusty,

    Your Guy Governor Perdue is an economic disaster for Georgia. Budgets are complete only one year in advance. The Governor and the Senate did notice we were going in a housing downturn. I think if I notice the housing downturn I am sure they have someone wispering ( WE WILL HAVE A BUDGET SHORTFALL)

    See that is why I question you, AJC,Commu, Wooten you support people who have no vision for the future.

    I have a question for you and your partners in crime!

    When their is budget shortfall is it better to cut jobs or raise taxes?

    How do you cover the budget shortfall?

    By Do-nothing Democrat

    July 31, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

    “If you uberpudwits cant even keep up with the AJC, then just go back to myspace where you came from and make new friends. Giggle. .”

    I know one individual blogger here who DAILY trashes your mindless liberals at the AJC with many paragraphs, and you limp wristed panty queef libs never respond to him.

    Keep up? You morons aren’t even in the same league. It doesn’t take much effort to post mindless samo-samo blah blah DNC talking points.

    “Keep up..”

    Giggle.

    By T

    July 31, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

    By Fix-It

    Those stats are great. There is all kind of info like that. Look at whats happening to Gwinnett with the drug cartels.

    No one sees anything wrong with spending this much money on non-citizens, when American’s are hurting?

    Immigration is great. Do it legally. Then good old uncle Sam can get his cut of your earnings too.

    By CommunistAJC

    July 31, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this

    Common Sense, Vision of the future? Really,you want to test me about my thoughts on the future? Here goes, my vision of the future is drilling here for our own oil, deporting people who should not be here in the first place, limited government, rights to bear arms, protecting the homeland from your buddies the islamists, and low low taxes. That my friend is what I want. Your vision is Obama Husseins socialist country. Where government runs your life and keeps you stupid. Your vision is high taxes and no competition in the free market. Sounds like you really need to get a job in the real world and stop relying on mommy and daddy for financial help. I’d advise taking the first step and move out of their basement. Oh, and get a girlfriend or in your case a boyfriend.

    By Mrs. Godzilla

    July 31, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

    Dusty

    Last time somebody jacked my name I contacted the Lea at the AJC and she stopped it.

    I’d be happy to provide you with the email address.

    We do agree on that being a nasty habit!

    By Fierce one

    July 31, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

    Obama 08: Sizzling Hot American Beef

    McCain 08: Sizzzzz……

    By Common Sense

    July 31, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

    Man I see why George W. Bush who failed at 3 businesses was elected Governor or Texas and President of the United States.

    Mr. Bush 2 man themes cut taxes and run on convservative values.

    What happens when all these great companies who we cut taxes for lay-off thousand of employees?

    Exxon profit was up 14 percent ( Get a life) Why do you come on this blog and lie?

    Some of you losers actual believe Senator McClain relates to you. I guess you must be a millionaire because he certainly is one!

    They have at least 5 to 7 properties how many of you have 5 to 7 vacation properties?

    Also show me a person who makes over $250,000 and pays 35 percent tax and I will show you gasoline that costs .50 cents.

    No one who makes money pays it all in taxes! That is the dummies comment I have ever seen. But sense you are trying to convince people who don’t know rich people can write the moon for tax purposes!

    By Fierce one

    July 31, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

    McCain 08: The fizzle. The leaf.

    Obama 08: The sizzle. The Beef.

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

    Common Nonsense@1:16

    I don’t believe Gov. Perdue has any major effect on the national economy, not on housing, banks or gas prices.

    I don’t want my state taxes raised but I gather you do. Sorry, Common, but if Gov. Perdue can adjust the budget without raising taxes, it is fine with me. He wisely does not want to harm local economy by grabbing more of their profit by taxation..

    Sorry you do not understand that.

    Now, why don’t you ask Mayor Shirley Franklin how she is going to cut the budget shortfall in Atlanta?

    By BLOGGY Awards Van

    July 31, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

    MID YEAR BLOGGY AWARDS

    Most likely to scroll down before reading- (tie) AJC/Management, Bud Wiser

    Most Boring Blogger- (tie) Bosch, Paul

    Most Entertaining Blogger- Dusty

    Most Depressing Blogger- @@

    Most Disliked Blogger- Getalife

    Funniest Blogger- All of the Rednecks

    Best Blogger- (tie) AmVet, Mid-South Philosopher

    Worst Blogger- (tie) RW-The Original, BFKaJ, Getalife, George Hussein Washington

    CONGRATS TO THE WINNERS. You all won a free one year subscription to ajc.com!

    By Bud Wiser

    July 31, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

    As usual, the stupid leftist pig morons cannot refute anything I listed previously, only continue to spout their mindless inane drivel and insults.

    You leftists are too stupid to even come up with a really good insult either. What’s the matter? DailyKos or HuffingtonPisst not able to breast feed you online?

    It is impossible for a sane person to come up with a real reason to vote Obama. All they can puke out about McCain is:

  • he is another George Bush

  • he is George Bush

  • we hate George Bush

  • George Bush is the source of all evil on the planet

  • George Bush wants to kill the planet before he leaves office

  • all of Bush’s friends are making millions because of him, and I am not one of them

  • Bush and all the evil millionaires should be stripped of everything they own, and given to us

  • he’s old and he’s ugly

  • he has a rich wife and I don’t

  • McCain will be a Bush 3rd term

  • No wonder you people are so stupid. You don’t know who is running for President, you still think it is George Bush. Dumba$$ public school educated (if you can call it that) morons are all you aspire to be, with your hands out looking to steal what you are incapable of earning on your own..

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Thanksgiving will be the sweetest this year when that sham socialist lunatic with a Messiah complex gets handed his hat in November. ha ha ha ha

    By SaveOurRepublic

    July 31, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

    By Fix-It @ 11:44 AM EDT - Outstanding factual validation of the devastating effect of the illegal invasion & the sellout enablers on “Crapitol sHill” who allow it to happen.

    The answer certainly isn’t found in Globalist Elite shills A, “Bacrock Obummer” or B, “Juan McAmnasty”, as they’re two sides of the same controlled Internationalist coin!

    *Try Constitutional Party candidate Chuck Baldwin, who’s all about restoring the freedom, limited government, ending the unConstitutional IRS, abolishing the private Fed, ending the illegal invasion & saving our Constitutional Republic!!!

    http://www.baldwin2008.com

    By Bud Wiser

    July 31, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

    Hey Bloggy, is that all I get is one MYBA? Come on man, I work so hard!

    By BFKaJ

    July 31, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

    Dear Paul @ 11:23, “Is Sen Obama that much different [from Reagan]?” Yes, in at least three ways. (1) The single most critical way: Ronald Reagan was an economist by training, which laid the foundation for his successful governance philosophy. Barack Obama is ignorant of matters economic; he was a political science major, and he obviously learned nothing more than how to use the tools of government to control the rabble. (2) Reagan was a hedgehog, and Obama is a fox. Reagan was much smarter than he allowed people to believe, and Obama is an empty suit, intellectually. (3) Reagan had a sense of humor. Anyone with a brain knows how Obama will react to McCain’s “Paris Hilton” ad. Reagan would have laughed it off, but Obama will react indignantly. A prick, a total jerk.

    Dear Bud Wiser @ 12:54, I salute whoever wrote that essay. If you wrote it, I proclaim you the king of the blog.

    By John

    July 31, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

    The American Immigration Law Foundation issued a statement criticizing the CIS report:

    “CIS implies that the illegal immigrant population could drop to half of what it is now within the next five years if only presidential candidates keep silent about the details of comprehensive immigration reform, taxpayers continue to pour billions of dollars into enforcement, and the U.S. economic recession persists—according to CIS, reducing illegal immigration apparently comes with a cruel price tag. Most researchers agree that undocumented immigration to the United States is driven largely by economics. Yet, in a new report entitled Homeward Bound: Recent Immigration Enforcement and the Decline in the Illegal Alien Population, CIS dubiously claims that undocumented immigrants decide where to live and work based more on the politics of immigration enforcement than the economics of their own survival. CIS concludes that the recent decline in the “likely illegal population” (which it defines as less-educated, foreign-born Hispanics age 18 to 40) is largely the result of new immigration-enforcement efforts rather than the downturn of the U.S. economy, including job losses in the construction sector that had been absorbing many less-skilled Hispanic immigrants. The persuasiveness of CIS’ argument is undermined not only by an absence of hard data, but by the faulty logic and contradictory statements of the report itself. The authors report confidently about a population that is nearly impossible to accurately measure. They admit they did not include data about any population other than Hispanics. They provide no evidence for their assertion that the immigration debate in Congress last summer spurred an increase in undocumented immigration. CIS provides no real solutions to the nation’s immigration problems. They insult thoughtful Americans when they seemingly hope for continued unemployment and recession, promote harsh enforcement measures that separate families and destroy communities, and suggest that politicians should not even talk about real solutions. By requiring undocumented immigrants to come forward, legalize their status, and learn English, we would strengthen the rule of law and turn undocumented immigrants into taxpayers. The U.S. must enact a practical, fair, and reasonable solution that includes smart enforcement measures.”

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

    Dear Mrs. Godzie,@1:26

    The last time I contacted the AJC about ID jacking they said anybody could post under the ID I was using and oooooooooo

    Bookman was pretty good about removing the kid stuff but I don’t think Wooten has the time to keep checking.

    Thanks for the tip. By the way, RW was on this blog some years ago when it stayed open at night. I was too. We had a good exchange and a good crowd. Very little namecalling, profanity, political hatred or salacious comments. All that changed.

    RW was straight forward then and he is now. In other words, he is always honest. You can believe what he tells you.

    Storm rumbling. Cool breezes blowing..feels good..Come on RAIN!!

    By dudley do right

    July 31, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

    Oh NO .. Not another REPUBLICAN CROOK?

    An insurance company’s attorney suggested during a sworn deposition that former U.S. Sen. Trent Lott urged witnesses to give false information in a Hurricane Katrina lawsuit, according to court records.

    The implication was made last week during a deposition with Lott’s nephew, Zach Scruggs, who represented the former Mississippi Republican senator after his Pascagoula home was destroyed by the 2005 storm. Zach Scruggs is the son and law partner of disgraced former attorney Richard ”Dickie” Scruggs, Lott’s brother-in-law.

    ”Has it been your custom and habit in prosecuting litigation to have Senator Lott contact and encourage witnesses to give false information?” State Farm Fire & Casualty Cos. attorney Jim Robie asked, according to a transcript of the deposition.

    ”I invoke my Fifth Amendment rights in response to that question,” Zach Scruggs responded.

    Suprise..Suprise.. NEXT CASE!

    By Mrs. Godzilla

    July 31, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

    Take a peak at the FactCheck.org home page.

    Can McCain get anything right?

    Also the flip flop list

    Can McCain hold on to one position for any length of time?

    and Bud Wiser went through all that trouble…..

    By getalife

    July 31, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

    Thanks for the award.

    Now, GFY you little jerk!

    By ron

    July 31, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

    Good afternoon all,I’m back and stuffed full of knowledge about geothermal heating systems. All of the illegals are gone where I live and they didn’t leave willingly.Same story.One comes in,brings in many more with fake SS no’s,houses them,feeds them,hides them,takes them to work,etc.Takes most of their money for the bother.He and his lovely bride are in jail,the rest are history.Sad story.Exploiting people is never pretty.16 0f them crammed in a van stopped by the State Police.These were from Honduras. Haven’t checked the news for about two weeks’til today.I like the Spears,Hilton,Obama comparison.They seem to go together.Lots of fun coming between now and November.

    By Bud Wiser

    July 31, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this

    Thank you BFKaJ @2:06. It is always humbling to have one’s work appreciated.

    And, you were right on in your comments about Reagan versus Obama. They are not in the same class, and I do mean class.

    Hussein Obama is the penultimate front page showcase for the far, far left. A big toothy smile with a slick appearance, all style but no substance. Harvard schooled in the way of political opportunity, but when the big show hits, he will pop like an overinflated balloon.

    What is sad is that there is no Ronald Reagan-type here or even on the horizon for the Republicans, but at least America will see through this shiny veneer of Hussein Obama for what he is; a socialist, borderline communist, incapable of leading anything without a teleprompter, much less this country.

    I salute you, BFKaJ!

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

    Hey look Paul! We tied! I guess we’re boring because we don’t call people doo-doo heads and things like that!

    BFKaJ,

    Ronald Reagan was an economics and sociology major in college - he graduated in 1932 - during the Great Depression. He became POTUS in 1981. That’s 49 years in between.

    You call that training?

    If that were the case, I’d be a famous artist living in Italy right now.

    By NewsFlash

    July 31, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

    Fix-It, I have included the original string of posts (the first three, that is) that led me to the conclusion that you are an idiot. I stand by my reasoning. You are an idiot. For openers, try sticking to one topic until it has been finished before you bounce around all over the place with your rambling. Idiot. For another, try making statements that you can at least back up with something that at least resembles proof. For example, what led you to believe that I smoke or that I am a liberal. Idiot. Now, go back to bed and quit embarrassing yourself. You’re beginning to look a lot like Dusty and Andy.

    By Fix-It

    July 31, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

    The American people are so gullible. If our corrupt government wanted to stop illegal border crossing they could. But why would the dimacrats want to alienate there core voters? All of the boneheads that don’t want to stop it should go down to the border towns in Texas and see what is happening to the American way of life, they would do a 180 on their views. I am all for people immigrating here, but please get in line we can’t accommodate the whole world. And for the idiots who say “They are doing jobs that we won’t do” what a lie that is. We survived several hundred years with out illegal immigration and if it stopped tomorrow we would still get those jobs done.

    By NewsFlash

    July 31, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

    Fix-it, that would be George Bush that said those people are doing the jobs that the rest of us won’t do. More precisely, they’re doing the jobs at the level of pay and benefits that no one else is willing to accept.

    By Fix-It

    July 31, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

    NewsFlash, I want some of what you are smoking! If we removed 100% of the illegal aliens I would bet you that not only would those jobs get done, Americans would do them. If your logic is correct, how did we survive for the last 300 years? All you beading heart liberals want to talk about the cost of the war and the lives that have been lost, how come you never mention the 300 to 400 billion a year that the illegal aliens cost us? How come you forget that illegal aliens kill more people in America daily than in Iraq and Afghanistan combined?

    By The Gimme's

    July 31, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

    Yes, it’s time for that semi-weekly, bi-annual, quasi-quarterly, para-monthly tri-state blogging awards: THE GIMMIES!!

    And please welcome this year’s host, Analchord.

    “Oh stop. Dont go there. I’m seriously retarded…glad to be here folks, sit down, (camera to host pointing at his watch), thank you, sit.

    now roll over. bwa. no welcome to this hour’s blog awards, hey, did you see the news about viagra and watermelon? no? apparently water melon works as well as viagra. But there’s a downside, I mean, I ate some watermelon last night to prepare for a BJ, and it was just no fun, the hooker kept spitting out the seeds.

    But anyway, It’s so great to be here. It’s great to be anywhere away from Cobb County you know, Newt Ginrich’s old district? Yeah, I mean Republicans and Rednecks! Yes, and they’re all mixed together in Cobb. They’re interbreeding! Cobb County’s the only place in the country where you can find a Volvo with a Gunrack!

    Wow! Did you see where they’re auctioning off Hitler’s Dinnerware on E-bay? True! They’ve found some place settings of sterling silverware used at dinner parties during world war two by hitler himself. Here in Cobb County we dont get anything that exotic, but I heard that the Marietta Rotary Club is auctioning a set of Newt Gingrich’s old Ginzu Knives. Yeah, you’ll want to bid on that!

    Okay, lets give away our first award. This is called the plastic-gloved probe award For best finger on the pulse of the campaign, the blogger who consistently anticipates campaign slogans, ad spots, even verbatim bullet points…….the award goes to…….(drum roll)……..Political Foreskin! (the crowd goes wild. PoFo makes his way through the aisles and runs up on stage, and hits the mic..)

    Wow, this thing’s heavy. (laughter), you know, when we first started this blog they said nobody would read it, and now we practically set the agenda for both campaign’s and I owe it all to the lurkers and the troll hacks! you know sometimes I dont think the trolls feel appreciated or maybe they’re just..i dont know…playing with themselves…but let me assure you horrid trolls, we cant do this with out you trolls hacking and spreading the word. You’ll never figure out that we’re using you, after all, you’re trolls. Thank you. Thank you…..(music intrudes, pofo recedes)…

    Thank you, Pofo. When we come back, we’ll have some stand up comedy from Carbon Footprint, and tonight’s special bedtime qweef award…..

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this

    Polly,

    BTW, I look at Luckovich’s cartton every morning.

    His toon was funny today. Which one did you vote for?

    By AmVet

    July 31, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

    Yowzers! The rabid right seems a tad more enraged today than usual, no?

    Otherwise, this year of endless bad news is clearly taking its toll on these dispirited Republicants.

    Much of today’s right wing, uncommonly senseless writing falls into the category of the following three words:

    Rant - To speak in a loud, pompous, or prolonged manner.

    Demagoguery - impassioned appeals to the prejudices and emotions of the populace

    Litany - a prolonged or tedious account

    Perhaps the completely discredited neo-cons could trot their “quaint” lists out in say, 2032 or 2036, when just maybe the lunatic fringe of the GOP resurfaces under a new (and much improved?) Ronnie Raygun or King George III.

    In the meantime the rest of us just laugh and shake our heads in wonder at the abysmal state of American “conservatism” as represented by these bungling, deadly and hyper-partisan frauds…

    By BFKaJ

    July 31, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

    Dear Bosch @ 2:24, “Ronald Reagan was an economics and sociology major in college - he graduated in 1932 - during the Great Depression. He became POTUS in 1981. That’s 49 years in between. You call that training?” Well, yes. I realize leftists regard college as the period when they stuff their brains full of “stuff,” never to use them again. Conservatives regard college as the beginning of the period of intellectual growth, not the end. Reagan, as a conservative, continued to learn throughout his lifetime, until his dazzling grasp of the world was progressively destroyed by Alzheimer’s. It probably helped Reagan that he studied economics before the temporary Keynesian diversion.

    By All Hogwash

    July 31, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

    The problem with enforcing immigration laws is that it is the immigration laws that contribute to illegal immigration. Some of them are so arcane and archaic that they actually force immigrants who entered the country legally and legally sought permanent status and/or citizenship to become illegal, through no fault of their own. Those who jumped the fence or waded across the Rio Grande should be sent back, but everyone who is illegal should not. Each and everyone of them should have his or her day in court and in cases where arcane or archaic laws created the illegal status, that immigrant should be welcomed with open arms to stay here and to contribute to the welfare of our nation by building houses, roofing houses, mowing yards, digging ditches, cleaning hotel rooms, or being doctors or lawyers, or corporation executives; if they have the qualifications.

    By lawyer bill

    July 31, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

    When I was in law school, I studied for 5 years on the law, property, enforcement, procedure, evidence, contracts, torts, administration, evidence, etc. Today, I am appalled by a President, Vice President, Attorney General, and US Attorneys who REFUSE to enforce the law relative to illegal immigrants. Regrettably, I voted for Bush. BUT, I feel he should have been impeached long ago for his allowing sanctuary cities, and illegal immigrants to run amok all over the country. I can’t begin to tell how illegal immigrants have impacted the town, and county, where I live. Forget the health department, forget the emergency room, etc. Also, many elementary school classes are over 50% hispanic. Plus, they get free breakfast and lunch. How can these classrooms compete on standardized tests? Yes, our government has let down the citizens of this country, and the country will pay for the trespasses for a long time to come.

    By BFKaJ

    July 31, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

    Dear Gimmes @ 2:29, clever routine, funny. I cannot determine whether you are PoFo or HIDT – it is that good.

    By Paul

    July 31, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

    BJFaJ 2:06

    Thank you for the response. I was interested not only in how Obama supporters saw this, but also those who do not support him yet supported Pres Reagan.

    I was not aware Pres Reagan had an economics background. Of course, then one would have to ask “which school? Keynes? Chicago/Monetarist/Friedman?” Of course, even then budget deficits took off again when he was elected. His budget director, David Stockman, attributed it to huge expansion of military spending and tax cuts in the first round (sound familiar?) and while the second round was to cut other government programs, well, they never made it to round two. So one could, I suppose, make the point that Pres Reagan’s economics background was as useful as Sen Obama’s poli sci background?

    I agree – even among Pres Reagan’s critics there’s been a new appreciation for his ability, given his personal letters, input on speeches, origination of many policy stances. He used that “aw, shucks” routine to his advantage.

    Not only a sense of humor, I do not think he took himself too seriously. Plus he could laugh at himself.

    But in the other areas of setting out a broad vision, inspiring others, appealing to peoples’ higher nature – I’m not convinced Pres Reagan and Sen Obama are all that dissimilar.

    (were you bored, Bloggy? Amazing how you’ll read something from beginning to end even if you’re bored…)

    Bosch

    Okay. You’re a doo-doo head. Now we’re exciting -

    By getalife

    July 31, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

    What a great idea.

    Ahnold just signed an order to cut jobs and lower their pay to the fed. min. wage for State employees in Cali.

    Lets do that in Washington.

    Brilliant.

    By Fix-It

    July 31, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this

    Bud Wiser, you are a wise person….NewFlash, it is funny how you don’t seem to know any facts so I posted them with links for you. But instead of gaining any knowledge of facts all you do is name calling, I am very impressed, what next sticks and stones. LOL

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

    BKFaJ,

    I hate to break it to you buddy, but being an economics major in college does not equate to being a trained economist.

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

    BKFaJ,

    I hate to break it to you buddy, but being an economics major in college does not equate to being a trained economist.

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

    Dear Bloggy 1:46

    Having read your outstanding selection of blog winners, I am agog and eggnoged with pure exhileration. I haven’t been this excited since I won my first Girl Scout Award (the Sheet Award—How to make Proper corners that are Riveted to the bed). I tell you that was one of those rare mountain top achievements. Now, it happens again.

    In the immediate rush of attainment over the Big E, I dashed to the patio and scared a poor Brown Thrasher right out the bird bath. He rewarded me with a small momento on the lawn chair. Oh… still the thrill of the unexpected!!

    So Bloggy, thanks again for the honor. I may become Obama’s VP. Well, he a joke!! Here’s to more entertainment!!

    And would you mind sending a little green patch with a big E on it. I will sew it right on my GS Badge Belt. I want it complete if I am to be a VP. Do you think Ludacris will like it?

    By AmVet

    July 31, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this

    Bosch, two words - trickle down.

    But honestly 25+ years of laughing at some of Ronnie’s “policies” is old news. (But he did save us from those marauding Grenadian terrorists!)

    Like many presidents, some good and a LOT of bad…

    And to my friends at the Bloggy Awards, in my best Sally Field voice, “You like me, you really like me!” (The aforementioned Ronnie of SAG fame would be SO proud).

    By Miss Congeniality

    July 31, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

    Bud Weiser,

    Heres a copule retorts for you:

    Vote republican….

    Because I don’t want to clean up after myself. Leave it for the grandkids. Who cares, I’ll be dead.

    Because we don’t need any wildlife. The only good polar bear is a dead polar bear. Where’s my AK-47, climate change is too slow.

    Because we are still on Orange alert and I am afraid of the big scary world. Please help me!

    Because if we talk to our enemies, we may come to a peaceful resolution, and then damn, what do I get to blow up then?

    Because those republicans have great family values. They even practice their obscene sex acts in the privacy of their own bathroom stall.

    Because I like being told what to do, think, and say.

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

    Dear BKFaj,2:48

    Gimme can be no other than our very own PoFo, Analchord. Bloggy,etc. Glad to see he’s perked up a bit and on a roll. If ever a blog needed a comedian, well…. this one isn’t full of smiles most of the time. (Luckovich’s was WORSE and it’s demise was not moaned.)

    By Carl Rove

    July 31, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

    I guess while Mr. Reagan was acting he was using all of that economic knowledge for California who had deficits while he was the governor!

    It’s amazing that we some many conservatives give Mr. Reagan so much credit and when some else like a democrat who might have done some good no credit!

    Lawyer Bill @ great post. My president was the first to let millions of illegals come into the state of Texas!

    I have to be careful a judge ruled that I do not have immunity!

    By RW-(the original)

    July 31, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

    Bosch,

    There’s a good reason that McCain is making what you call these silly ads. He doesn’t have the money to run major ad buys so he puts these things out that run once or twice in some small market knowing that Obambi is too whiny to ignore them. Then the ads get picked up and played all over the place for free. The ads do effectively show the idol worship side of Obama and they also show how absurd it is when Obama incessantly whines and goes so far as to call it racist to show him performing before large crowds the same way Britney Spears does. (or did)

    If Obama would just not say anything about them you would never even see these ads or McCain for that matter.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    A savvy paid troll most certainly would have access to the hardware required to pretend to be a cast of characters…I believe you are just that!

    Yes Mrs. G, the RW actually stands for Rick Wakeman. You may remember my days as the keyboardist for Yes as well as many solo efforts. I’ve traded in all my musical keyboards for banks of computer keyboards just to post on blogs all day as zillions of different characters just to make you think there is more than one conservative in the world.

    Won’t the world be shocked when Obama wins by a vote total of 140,000,000 to 1.

    Gawd you’re a tool. Need I point out that you’ve actually been caught posting as multiple personalities?

    By GOPs got to go

    July 31, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

    Good point Lawyer Bill. Too bad you were hood winked by the Shrub. But as far as I know law school is 3 years unless you were part time or held back.

    By Rocboy

    July 31, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

    Avg. Joe, Bosh, Fix-it and RCH, you are the only posters on this blog with brains. It amazes me that despite our standard of living and wealth, we have so many dumb, uneducated people living in this country. The real problem with illegal immigration lies with the politicians and corporations that they are sleeping with.

    As others have mentioned, if the government REALLY cared about stopping illegal immigration, they could have stopped it yesterday by enforcing the existing laws, but that will never happen. These greedy corporations are benefiting from illegal immigration, while the rest of us are suffering. GW is right: they are doing the jobs that nobody wants to do, but they are being done at wages that nobody should have to work for. The illegals are just pawns. They are easy targets since they are poor and have no voice. The government brings up things like amnesty, border patrols and loss of jobs in order to appeal to the lowest common denominator and get the population worked up and distracted from the real problems in this country. In the meantime, we’re getting our a#$@$ handed to us in Iraq to the tune of billions per day. No doubt some of that money could be used to invest in fixing failing schools, revamping health care, public infrastructure, crooked CEO’s, etc.

    We could actually learn something from these illegals instead of mocking them. Most of them are here working like dogs without a peep while the Shaniquas and Billy Bobs of the world sit on their fat a*s collecting welfare checks, fathering 8 kids by 7 women and drinking their lives away. If these illegals were white Canadians or blonde-haired, blue-eyed Germans, nobody would say anything. Since most of these illegals are dark-skinned and don’t speak English well, everyone is up in arms.

    As for the person who said Obama is a used car salesman: all politicians are used car salesman. They’re basically high-class hookers who sell themselves to the highest bidder. The next honest politician will be the first. None of them care about the people they serve. They just want the power, glory and call girls that come with being elected to office.

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

    Paul,

    Damn! You’ve crossed the line now buddy.

    Just kidding, you’re a doo-doo head too. Yeah! That IS exciting.

    AmVet,

    The only problem with trickle down economics is that it’s like caramel topping on ice cream. It freezes as the top and doesn’t trickle down much.

    Miss Congeniality,

    I think someone posted this here before, but I liked it -

    I’m voting Republican because

    By RW-(the original)

    July 31, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

    This pretty well says it all.

    The link won’t take you directly to the video. There will be another content warning at the link, but consider this one as well.

    Leave Obambi alone….waaa

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

    RW,

    Yeah, but they are still lame as hell. Just like him.

    You were in YES? OMG! I was listening to you just a minute ago.

    (Don’t worry, not that gullible).

    Rocboy,

    Did you read my post earlier about my blue-eyed, blonde hair, underwear model looking German friend who was here briefly as an “illegal?” I loved going out with him because he made me look good!

    I agree totally with what you said. Those who complain about illegal immigration need to stop a minute and look around at their universe - we are ALL to blame for it because we like lots of cheap stuff and cheap labor to make the cheap stuff we can’t buy enough of. And the businesses that make all the cheap stuff like the profits they make by hiring the cheap labor so they can pass off the cheap crap onto us gimme, gimme, gimme ADD American consumers.

    I think the people who hate Latinos are just subconsciously guilt-ridden, or they are just plain rascist a*******sholes.

    By RW-(the original)

    July 31, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

    By the way, these “silly” ads seem to be taking a toll

    No wonder Obambi is whining so much.

    By Bud Wiser

    July 31, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

    All Miss Congeniality needs to do now is learn to use spell check. (copule v. couple?) What an idiot.

    Even of more concern to me though is the fact that she and Abomi Nation both make an extraordinary amount of continual references to homosexual behavior. I know that being gay is a good prerequisite to being a Democrat, but does everybody have to be that way? Where’s the fun in that?

    I fear that they have become lost in their own sexual confusion, predisposing their own bizarre tendencies on everyone else.

    Tsk tsk.

    By NewsFlash

    July 31, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

    Fix-It, go back to sleep. If you are too ignorant to follow my comment to your comment, then you obviously slept through too much of school already. Now, say goodnight to all the adults and it’s off to bed with you.

    By The good side

    July 31, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

    To Fix-it and Bud-wiser you too are lacking so much intelligence about politics.

    Your post are really stupid! I bet both of you look like princess CHUNKY!

    Obama in 08!

    By Bud Wiser

    July 31, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this

    Try spell check next time, Miss Congeniality (couple v. ‘copule’). Idiot.

    What is more alarming though is that you have fallen into the continual reference to homosexual practices, much like your mush brained friend Abomi Nation. I know that being gay is an inside track to being a Democrat, but do you all have to be that way? Where’s the fun in that?

    It appears that your and Abomi’s bizarre sexual practices have back-doored themselves (pun intended) into your writings. The shrinks call that “transference”, or transferred aggression; in other words, displacing your own strange behaviors on to other people, thinking or trying to think that they are just like you. I apologize for calling you an idiot previously, for I now realize that you are mentally disturbed.

    BUT, all is not lost….being gay AND mentally disturbed reaffirms that you have made the right choice for your political affiliation.

    By Miss Congeniality

    July 31, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

    oh, gosh. I misspelled a word on an internet blog. How dare I?

    Just like a republican. Pay attention to the small crap and miss the big picture..

    Tsk, tsk yourself.

    Oh and by the way, no all of us do not have to be gay, myself included, however at least we do not make them feel like they are “wrong” and “going to hell”.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    July 31, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

    Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh-oh:

    Gallup Daily: Obama 45%, McCain 44%

    Uh, what now, Lord High Dimwit?

    A grandest and most prestigious tour of thee fever swamps?

    Where whilst thee chariot strike off to next?

    Obscurity?

    Can you say Dukakis?

    By The Gimme's

    July 31, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

    Yes, it’s time for that semi-weekly, bi-annual, quasi-quarterly, para-monthly tri-state blogging awards: THE GIMMIES!!

    And please welcome this year’s host, Analchord.

    “Oh stop. Dont go there. I’m seriously retarded…glad to be here folks, sit down, (camera to host pointing at his watch), thank you, sit.

    now roll over. bwa. no welcome to this hour’s blog awards, hey, did you see the news about viagra and watermelon? no? apparently water melon works as well as viagra. But there’s a downside, I mean, I ate some watermelon last night to prepare for a BJ, and it was just no fun, the hooker kept spitting out the seeds.

    But anyway, It’s so great to be here. It’s great to be anywhere away from Cobb County you know, Newt Ginrich’s old district? Yeah, I mean Republicans and Rednecks! Yes, and they’re all mixed together in Cobb. They’re interbreeding! Cobb County’s the only place in the country where you can find a Volvo with a Gunrack!

    Wow! Did you see where they’re auctioning off Hitler’s Dinnerware on E-bay? True! They’ve found some place settings of sterling silverware used at dinner parties during world war two by hitler himself. Here in Cobb County we dont get anything that exotic, but I heard that the Marietta Rotary Club is auctioning a set of Newt Gingrich’s old Ginzu Knives. Yeah, you’ll want to bid on that!

    Okay, lets give away our first award. This is called the plastic-gloved probe award For best finger on the pulse of the campaign, the blogger who consistently anticipates campaign slogans, ad spots, even verbatim bullet points…….the award goes to…….(drum roll)……..Political Foreskin! (the crowd goes wild. PoFo makes his way through the aisles and runs up on stage, and hits the mic..)

    Wow, this thing’s heavy. (laughter), you know, when we first started this blog they said nobody would read it, and now we practically set the agenda for both campaign’s and I owe it all to the lurkers and the troll hacks! you know sometimes I dont think the trolls feel appreciated or maybe they’re just..i dont know…playing with themselves…but let me assure you horrid trolls, we cant do this with out you trolls hacking and spreading the word. You’ll never figure out that we’re using you, after all, you’re trolls. Thank you. Thank you…..(music intrudes, pofo recedes)…

    Thank you, Pofo. When we come back, we’ll have some stand up comedy from Carbon Footprint, and tonight’s special bedtime qweef award…..

    Bosch, I didn’t like Lucko’s toon today it was hack. Morgan Fairchild is just not funny, neither is the hack concept of Obama dating anyone after the paris/brittany ad.

    BJf—I’m not worried. Like the viagra/watermelon joke?

    It’s a variation on the all grapefruit diet joke, where everytime I take a leak I squirt myself in the eye.

    big deal.

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

    Gimme,

    I think Luckovich should start drawing McCain with a band-aid on his face.

    Yeah, you’re right. Morgan Fairchild? Puhlease.

    By RW-(the original)

    July 31, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

    Bosch,

    It’s important that these McCain ads be lame. People in Obambi’s camp aren’t going to be swayed nor are the ones backing McBushie. By the time people in the middle see these ads it’s because of all the outrage coming from Team Barry.

    Those people see them and say “he’s all upset about that? The point that’s being made in the ad then sticks because figure he wouldn’t be so upset over a lame and fairly tame ad unless the message was hitting too close to home.

    I thought about you while I was out a while ago. I saw an apartment complex that had a sign up advertising that they had a new soccer COURT. Who needs a field or a pitch when you can have a court? (Unless there really is a court version of the game)

    By lawyer bill

    July 31, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

    GOP, thanks. FYI, Viet era Navy veteran, GI Bill, 2 law degrees, JD, LLM, honors, night school, Full time job + overtime, plus the fun part, 2 sweet baby girls born during it all. Now an INDEPENDENT.

    By RW-(the original)

    July 31, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

    Off topic

    Andy,

    The Palehose just picked up Ken Griffey Jr at the trade deadline.

    By Carbon Footprint

    July 31, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

    Hi, thank you, Analchord. Great stuff. (eye roll). Hey, you know I was watching dateline last night, and every episode is about a murder suspect who they interview all during the show. Now, the murderer never wears the prison garb, because the producers of dateline dont want to tip the verdict, I mean, you wouldn’t watch it if you knew the guy was convicted. The only reason you watch is to see this guy get burned. So they make the guy wear some other clothes, not very stylish, in fact they expect to fool us into thinking that the drab shirt wasn’t laying around on the prison laundry floor or rifled from the camera man’s van. Oh, no, you couldn’t be the killer, not you ,with that sweater knit thing you’re wearing.

    That’s how you tell if they suspect was convicted: by how deep into the 1970’s the clothes are.

    Oh well, you know it’s all about the beer now, it used to be sex drugs and rock and roll. I remember pot parties, babes, and naked people everywhere, man, and that was just at sunday church, man, you should have seen the friday nights at the frat house. But we always remember the good stuff, and I’m here to tell you there was bad. Yes, every pot party had a clown who ruined the fun. You remember this guy? He never got off on the acid, or he didn’t like the hash brownies, or he thought the chicks were fat, or some such complaint. You remember Captain Bringdown, dont you? Captain Bringdown. No matter how high people got, no matter how many chicks started taking their tops off, no matter how many guitars were strumming Donavan songs, this clown would bring everyone down. “I didn’t get off, man, that chick is bogue, man, is that her hair, man?”.

    I hated Captain Bringdown.

    By Bud Wiser

    July 31, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

    Miss C, it’s okay to be you! Be happy with yourself! Come out! However, I feel that I must point out that I made no reference whatsoever to ” make them (you) feel like they are “wrong” and “going to hell”.” Those are your words, I fear, not mine. Sorry that you are too stupid to know where real truth ends and your fantasy begins, but then again that’s all part of being a Democrat, isn’t it?

    Now being gay and stupid really makes you a good Democrat, doesn’t it? Don’t feel bad, you are surrounded by similar types in your party. If you are on welfare, then you have just won the DNC Trifecta!

    By Paul

    July 31, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

    Bosch - RW

    Just got this in an email so many here may have seen it. Still, it seems to sum up some of what I’ve read here today:

    The buzzword of this election is ‘CHANGE’. Candidates toss it around without saying what they want to change to. Years ago, there was an old tale in the Marine Corps about a lieutenant who inspected his Marines and told the ‘Gunny’ they smelled bad. The lieutenant suggested that they change their underwear. The Gunny responded, ‘Aye,sir, I’ll see to it immediately’. He went to his Marines and said, ‘The lieutenant thinks you guys smell bad. He wants you to change your underwear. Smith, you change with Jones, McCarthy, you change with Jackson, Brown, you change with Schultz. Get to it’.

    The moral: A candidate may promise change in Washington but don’t count on things smelling any better…

    By Blogfather

    July 31, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

    rw, the aboriginal, while it’s difficult to predict where the spin on any particular campaign ad will corkscrew, the overall effect of ridiculous ads is to chip away at the credibility of an already strained presidential demeanor displayed by McCain.

    He comes up short no matter what yardstick you use. Just like you wife keeps saying about you.

    bwa.

    Obama 08: We’ll always have Paris.

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this

    RW-(the original)4:06

    Ohhh I love those statistics. Obama is only ONE point ahead of McCain. I knew Americans would not stay blinded by the Obama ballet and “baby bullet” speeches.

    Americans are smart enough to see a strong man with an outstanding record in military and governing experiences is beyond the limited Johnny-come-lately scope of an ambitious egotistical freshman senator. The choice is so breath takingly obvious.

    Obama makes a good speech. He wants to conquer the world FOR Obama. (Obama the Great Vocalist).

    McCain is a man of strength. He will fight to keep America great.(McCain the Leader).

    The wind blows through the trees. It brings the fresh rain of expectation.

    Good night all….

    By Blogfather

    July 31, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this

    Obama 08: We’ll always have Paris.

    By Fix-It

    July 31, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

    NewsFlash, why do you think I am not following. Did you read the statistics? I guess you are to busy name calling to get an education. Funny how FACTS get in the way. RLOL

    By AJC/DNC Management

    July 31, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

    RW: Yeah, now our centerfield batting average is up to .232.

    Yeesh.

    ~~~~~

    “We could save all the oil that they’re talking about getting off drilling if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could save just as much” spoketh Lord Highest Dimwit, Thee Grandest.

    {{{{Power Line’s John Hinderaker runs the numbers and concludes that Obama is vastly overpromising: “it would take … 11,308 years of proper tire inflation to equal ‘all the oil that they’re talking about getting off drilling.’ “}}}}

    I heard somewhere that this guy was a dunce.

    By Miss Congeniality

    July 31, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this

    Bud -

    I admit you have made me laugh. Well played, worthy advasary.

    But no, If Democrats are supposed to be all those things you listed, then I must be very disappointing to my party.

    I am not gay - (married 7 years - To a MAN)

    I am not stupid - Hold both undergrad and MBA degrees

    I am not on welfare - Hold a pretty important job making a decent salary

    Now you - I guess if drunk and condescending are your parties traits, then you fit right in, huh? You may want to change your name though, haven’t you heard, you’re un-American now.

    By Dusty

    July 31, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

    The only thing inflated right now is Obama’s ego.

    It gets bigger and bigger.

    By The good side

    July 31, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

    Wow, Dusty I did not know getting shot down to under whelming enemies makes an outstanding military record.

    I guess after voting for the war and now the creator of the surge in Iraq, plus he will the creator of the surge in Afganistan will make Mr. McClain presidential.

    Running all those weak adds is enough for me to vote for Paris Hilton instead of John McClain.

    What a waste of time!

    Dusty I am not sure who brainwashed you Bud-wiser, AJC, Commy, Jay, Terry and BKABCD but I want the product they used on all of you!

    See I am not a believer that a politician is the savior! I know a person who will try do the steer the country in the right direction when I see him.

    For example I voted for Big Ronnie and not Micheal. I did not vote for GW. Bush I knew he would lead the country into a recession. GW Bush has always looked for his boys!

    The meaning of a recession BUD-wiser is not 2 negative quarters.

    It is 1 million to 3 million people losing their homes. Over 1-2 million jobs lost in the past 6 months/ 10 millions manufacturing job lost during the Bush terms.

    CEO making still getting paid even though the company is going out of business.

    That is called Elistist ECONOMICS!

    And it must end NOW!

    By Gerry

    July 31, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

    Simply enforce our immigration laws, send out the no-match Social Security letters, impose E-Verify on all employers, fine and imprison employers of illegal aliens…they will self deport.

    There isn’t one person on this blog that can give one good reason why any US citizen should be OBLIGATED to support benefits for illegal aliens. Any reasons based on morality are those of the specific individual and they can support a charity to house, educate, medicate, whatever…those same illegal aliens in their countries of origin.

    By RW-(the original)

    July 31, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this

    Here are those calculations for the 11,308 year oil through tire inflation plan.

    Be sure to watch the video. You can almost hear the crowd begging this dunce to find a script to read.

    Speaking of which, remember when Obambi was preaching to the Germans and it looked like his head was on a swivel it was going back and forth so fast never pausing to look straight ahead. I was at a site the other day where you could pan the whole area and zoom in and out. His teleprompters were about six feet out on each side. It must have scared him to death that he wasn’t going to get from one back to the other fast enough.

    By BFKaJ

    July 31, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

    Dear Paul @ 2:06, in your second paragraph you offer a conceptual error common among our leftist friends - the inability to distinguish growth from accounting. An economist is concerned with procuring growth, as was Reagan; an accountant, such as David Stockman, feels empowered to rebuke an economist because the latter does not share his preoccupation with accounting. (You may recall that was maybe the only time President Reagan publicly humiliated a subordinate. I think Stockman’s career never recovered.) Today leftists, like accountants, focus on the “deficit” while economists focus on “spending.” The former is the effect, and the latter is the cause. The primary purpose of tax policy is merely to enslave the payers. Conservatives believe slavery is morally wrong, and Leftists simply regard it as another tool of control.

    By Bosch

    July 31, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this

    RW,

    Soccer court? Are you serious? I mean you’ve told us you were a member of “Yes” today, are you messing with me?

    Oh GOD - I hope you are. Soccer court. Unless, of course, it’s for indoor soccer - and to be honest, I don’t know what you call that.

    Indoor soccer is like arena football. Whatever.

    You are probably right about those ads, but you can never underestimate the reaction of some. I mean, the Swiftboaters worked four years ago, right?

    Paul,

    The other Bosch and I have spent the past month cleaning our house - cleaning out basement, attic, garage, closets, nooks, crannies, bedrooms, hell even the refrigerator. When you do all that you think to yourself, “Never again will my refrigerator look like that” couple weeks later, you are faced with “damn, how’d my refrigerator get like this?”

    Same concept as the underwear example.

    Until politicians divorce the corporations - it’s all gonna stink.

    By BFKaJ

    July 31, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

    Test question for all: who said, “You don’t need to be concerned about getting immigrants to speak English, you need to be teaching your children to speak Spanish.” Hint, he is a major party candidate for a high office this year.

    By BFKaJ

    July 31, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

    Another hint, he is also the guy whose solution to the energy crisis is to “tune up your cars and increase the inflation in your tires.”

    By catlady

    July 31, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

    The illegal immigrants we see leaving our county are those, usually single men, without children. Those with children born here are staying put.

    Another arguement for changing the “American at birth” laws. Another reason, also, to target the employers of illegals. When the jobs dry up, the illegal immigrants are more likely to leave.

    Something for policymakers to think about.

    By BFKaJ

    July 31, 2008 5:38 PM | Link to this

    Those who guessed, “Chauncey Gardner, ” you’re right!

    By RW-(the original)

    July 31, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this

    BFKaJ,

    I know, I know!

    He’s the same one that wants to restrict trade with lots of Spanish speaking nations thereby making it less not more important to learn Spanish.

    Have I mentioned he’s a dunce?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Bosch,

    No fooling, it said soccer court. I should’ve driven in there to see what it was. Chances are they stuck a couple of soccer goals in the basketball court.

    By Paul

    July 31, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

    BKFaJ 5:28

    I didn’t realize David Stockman was an accountant. Don’t know what his undergraduate major was but understand he did graduate work at Harvard. The guy was a pretty conservative Republican – director of the House Republican Conference.

    I don’t see the relevance of distinguishing between the theoretical characteristics of an accountant vs an economist. Pres Reagan selected him as the Director of Office of Management and Budget where he was the advocate for “Reaganomics.” Regardless of his college work, in that role I’m pretty sure he was able to realize part of his responsibility concerned growth (not just accounting, else Pres Reagan never would have selected him) – for growth is the engine that fuels the commodity dearly beloved by politicians – a larger base upon which to inflict taxes.

    By Paul

    July 31, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this

    BKFaJ 5:28

    I didn’t realize David Stockman was an accountant. Don’t know what his undergraduate major was but understand he did graduate work at Harvard. The guy was a pretty conservative Republican – director of the House Republican Conference.

    I don’t see the relevance of distinguishing between the theoretical characteristics of an accountant vs an economist. Pres Reagan selected him as the Director of Office of Management and Budget where he was the advocate for “Reaganomics.” Regardless of his college work, in that role I’m pretty sure he was able to realize part of his responsibility concerned growth (not just accounting, else Pres Reagan never would have selected him) – for growth is the engine that fuels the commodity dearly beloved by politicians – a larger base upon which to inflict taxes.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    July 31, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

    RW: By the way, Huston Street for Nick Swisher et al. is the deal we got our fingers crossed for.

    Now that would be sweet.

    ~~~~~

    What is really so bizarre about Lord High Dimwit Thee Grandest letting the “inflation” gaffe fly, is that you just know his handler’s have him on thee shortest of leashes, they would love nothing more than to stick this dunce in a closet until mid November and just show tapes of his Splendid and Magnificent Displaying before the euroweenies until then.

    So if he received approval for that idiotic remark, what does that say of thee toadies and sycophants that surround him?

    Are they just as dull as he is?

    How about it Urinalists, did y’all stop at thee local filling station on the way home last night?

    By BFKaJ

    July 31, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this

    Dear Paul @ 5:57, David Stockman was never an advocate for Reaganomics. He was a traditional budget balancer, without regard to growth.

    By NewsFlash

    July 31, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

    Fix-It, your stupidity is still showing. You should call your local kindergarten and get them to Fix-It. Now, go to sleep or go to your corner.

    By BFKaJ

    July 31, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

    Dear Paul, an omission, Stockman was selected because he was the Congressman who knew the Congressional budget process most thoroughly. Not an economist at all,

    By vuduchld

    July 31, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

    So, Wooten you and other conservative blow hards should pat yourselves on the back. You”ve saved the life of a Mexican or two from being hunted as prized trophies for the MinuteMen and KKK wannabes. Now what? We still have jobs here that need to be filled. Maybe now the toothless rednecks who howled about not getting a job because of “them Mexicans” can now get off their sorry butts and work for the same wages them Mexicans did. I also challenge the black men I see at Woodruff park everyday playing chess to do the same thing. You folks got what you dreamed of, a chance to send “them Mexicans” back to Mexico so now is the time for you folks to step up and take these jobs at the same wages that “them Mexicans” was working for. Even you Wooten, I mean what real value does some conservative con artist like you create? You sit at your typewriter or computer mouthing off a bunch of nonsensical vitrol day in, day out. Why don’t you go and get one of these jobs “them Mexicans” used to have and earn wages doing “real worK” instead of sitting at your desk munching donuts 8 hours a day, five days a week. It’s time for you hypocrites to either put up or shut up. Either go out and work, making the same wages “them Mexicans” made or bring them back because I still want to eat cheap chicken!!

    By Hellinahandbasket

    July 31, 2008 6:15 PM | Link to this

    first and foremost, why should i be required to pay taxes when someone can break the law by coming here illegally and not have to? that to me is the biggest injustice. and to address the oft heard mantra that illegals do the jobs that american’s will not is resoundingly false. i work in an industry that employees illegals because they are cheaper and they don’t have to report their salaries to the irs. so why hire a legal worker who will have to be paid a fair wage and provided access to benefits when you can get someone who is desperate that a company can take advantage of? also consider not only the drain on our healthcare, education and financial systems…all free for those who are illegal but try getting treatment at a hospital or doctor without insurance or payment up front if you are legal! but a disturbing thought is the number of gangs and illegal activities that follow these illegals into our country. drugs, prostitution and human trafficking is prevalant and well known in the communities that are ignoring this problem. and consider too the health risks to those of us who are legal and who have gotten the proper inoculations over the years. in mexico where the majority of illegals come from to the u.s. there is little concerning preventative healthcare and working in the food service industry i see illegals everyday that are sick or have drug problems. ever wonder why measles, small pox, tubeculosis is on the rise? because many illegals have T.B. and worse and if you think the companies that are hiring them are concerned with their health or if they are bringing diseases to us then you are mistaken, they don’t want to take the time or money to test them, so you could possibly have someone with AIDS, TB, Hepatitis or any other number of diseases preparing or serving your food. i wonder have any of you ever considered how samonella gets into our fruits and veggies? its because illegals working in our fields are using them as bathrooms, thats right crapping and peeing amongst the fruits and veggies, not washing properly. i work at a very upscale resort in braselton, ga, of the over 400 employees there, over 300 are illegal there is even a separate time clock for the illegals to clock in so the company that hires them does not have to officially say they work there or take taxes from them. the resort knows but turns a blind eye to it, ‘hiring’ their employees from a company owed and run by an man named abel nateras. a very rich former if not still illegal who makes his money bringing in help from across the mexican border, he dabbles in underage girl and boy prostitution, drugs, fake i.d.’s, human trafficking and has ties to gangs in mexico. he claims none of his ill gotten gains to the IRS. he lives in an 800+ home in a gated community in duluth and has several high end vehicles, his kids and wife have all the best while he uses and abuses children and desperate illegals. he is a criminal living in plain view. the county commissioners and the county and local police know that this resort employees illegals as they police work up there most times but they do nothing. ICE, GBI, FBI, HOMELAND security and all manner of organizations have been told of this man and the illegals he brings to georgia, illinois, florida and other states but they do nothing. this man has brought several felons into the country i know because one girl that worked with us was almost beaten to death by one of his illegal employees, as she lay in the hospital he was arrested then let go on bond even though he was a felon in this country too, as soon as he was let go he fled to mexico never to be seen again or at least not that anyone knows of. the thing is i have no problem with immigrants coming to america, i don’t blame them but they need to do it right. it is unfair to us that are legal and to those immigrants that took the proper steps to get here. but in the end it all comes down to greed, companies are greedy, the government is greedy and they don’t care that its our hard earned money that is being thrown away on people who for the most part are here just to take advantage of us all. and if you are one of those who think that the majority that come here are coming for a better life…you better wake up and face the truth. of the many illegals i work with, i know of none who have done that. most get paid and by the weekend their money is gone, spent on the underage hookers abel makes the rounds of the soccer fields with or the drugs he supplies them with. bottom line no matter how you feel about immigrants it is unfair and inexcuseable that a person can break the law by coming here illegally then not have to give one cent back to the community while enjoying all the benefits and blessings that we, the legal citizens pay for, work hard for and provide.

    By AJC/DNC Management

    July 31, 2008 6:18 PM | Link to this

    Who knew that “my father was a mill worker” could be such a great pickup line? In his defense, Edwards had to do something to kill time between giving $50,000 speeches on poverty.

    I guess the Enquirer is lucky Edwards isn’t a trial lawyer! A sleazy carnival sideshow trial lawyer wouldn’t even need to start channeling unborn children before a jury — as Edwards did in the junk-science cases that made him a multimillionaire — to win a defamation case if these charges are false. The “love child” allegation could be easily disproved by DNA testing.

    *Which brings up a fascinating legal question: Would it be admissible for Edwards to channel the very love child at issue during such a proceeding? Reminiscent of his performances in medical malpractice cases, he could say: “She speaks to you through me and I have to tell you right now — I didn’t plan to talk about this — right now I feel her. I feel her presence. She’s inside me, and she’s talking to you, she’s saying: “John Edwards ain’t my daddy!” *

    We got the killer sarcasm and you got the sputtering rage and crying jags.

    We win.

    Bwa.

    By RW-(the original)

    July 31, 2008 6:52 PM | Link to this

    Andy,

    The deadline was at 4:00 today and the only deal announced after it it was the three way deal that has ManRam going the Dodgers and Jason Bay going from Pittsburgh to Boston and the Pirates getting four players including Andy LaRouche. At least the Pirates will have the market cornered on LaRouches.

    There’s always a chance for a waiver deal in August.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Obambi better quit taking potshots at McBushie and look around at his admirers. The cracks are starting to show everywhere.

    In the latest issue of the New Republic, Gabriel Sherman found reporters complaining that Obama’s campaign was “acting like the Prom Queen” and being more secretive than Bush. The magazine quoted the New York Times’ Adam Nagourney’s reaction to the Obama campaign’s memo attacking one of his stories: “I’ve never had an experience like this, with this campaign or others.” Then came Obama’s overseas trip and the campaign’s selection of which news organizations could come aboard. Among those excluded: the New Yorker magazine, which had just published a satirical cover about Obama that offended the campaign.

    By American worker

    August 1, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

    here is why illegal sare going home http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxe1WO27B_I

    By JP

    August 1, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this

    Reversing Illegal Immigration Report Backed By Media Reports

    August 1, 2008

    CONTACT: William Gheen of ALIPAC, WilliamG@alipac.us, (866) 703-0864

    Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC), which manages the largest archive of information in the world on the topic of illegal immigration, is confirming that media reports from across America confirm the primary findings of the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) report released this week detecting a reduction in the illegal alien population in America.

    “We know that illegal aliens are leaving certain states, local areas, and the nation in much greater numbers and they are leaving, as a direct result of more immigration enforcement,” said William Gheen of ALIPAC. “While the economy is certainly a factor, media reports from Georgia, Arizona, and Oklahoma report mass exoduses of illegals from those states and many say they are going back home in reaction to new enforcement measures.”

    Illegal alien supporting groups are now attacking the report, entitled “Homeward Bound: Recent Immigration Enforcement and the Decline in the Illegal Alien Population,” which is available at the Center for Immigration Studies web site www.cis.org The report indicates that their analysis of US Census data shows a 1.3 Million (11%) decline in the number of illegal aliens in America since last summer.

    The information collected in ALIPAC’s archives suggest that four factors are responsible for the reversal.

    More Federal immigration enforcement, local immigration enforcement, the bad economy, and a massive public backlash against illegal immigration manifest on talk radio shows and hundreds of new groups fighting against illegal immigration in America.

    “The illegal aliens are feeling the heat from authorities, groups, and American citizens,” said William Gheen. “Many are getting the clear message to vamoose!”

    Many reports indicated that attempts to cross the border illegally are declining, remittances sent back to Mexico are dropping, and illegal aliens are leaving areas where local law enforcement are implementing the 287(g) program and states that are cracking down.

    While illegal alien and amnesty supporters have often offered the public a false choice between amnesty and mass deportation, ALIPAC has promoted the political concept of ‘Attrition Enforcement’ found in the groups platform and an attached articles titled “How To Reverse Illegal Immigration In America” and “Why The Illegals Must Go”

    The platform plan proffers that if we simply “enforce our existing immigration laws” and take the four steps of securing the borders, empowering local police, removing taxpayer incentives for illegals, and crack down on employers that the numbers of illegal aliens in America can be gradually reduced in a humane and sustainable way.

    “America’s entire illegal immigration crisis has been created by the under enforcement of our existing immigration laws, at the behest of the Executive Branch, big business, and some leftist organizations,” said William Gheen. “When the states and local governments start doing the job the Feds should be doing, the illegal aliens immigrate to areas of lax enforcement or back home.”

    To assist lawmakers and members of the media with documentation of the beginning phases of the reversal of illegal immigration in America, ALIPAC will begin assembling media reports that support this study and these conclusions beneath the copy of this press release on the homepage at www.alipac.us

    #

    Paid for by AMERICANS FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION PAC Post Office Box 30966, Raleigh, NC 27622-0966 Tel: (919) 787-6009 Toll Free: (866) 703-0864 FEC ID: C00405878

    By Bobby

    August 1, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

    In San Francisco California, recently, an illegal alien gang member murdered a dad and his two sons in cold blood at 3 in the afternoon. Mrs. Bologna the mother and wife of the victims is devastated. I heard her on a radio talk show where she cried that she couldn’t understand. Her family always did everything right. They were 3rd generation San Franciscans and always obeyed the laws, paid taxes, and were decent citizens and neighbors.

    Alas, none of this matters to the childish “trust fund” Mayor Gaven Newsom. His and the San Francisco politicians liberal policies, where they bragged about making San Francisco the best Sanctuary city in the U.S. has born fruit. The bitter fruit of a family devastated.

    It doesn’t matter what State or City you live in, you are going to wind up like the State of California. Controled by liberals like Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, and other rich open borders insane liberals, whom illegal immigration does not affect and who DO NOT CARE IF IT AFFECTS YOU OR YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES.You will wind up living in a State that is broke, crime ridden and unaccountable to the citizenry—like the former great state of California.

    The people that continue to allow the criminality are plain and simple SCUM, none of them, not the Senators, Congressman/women, or the “childish trust fund Mayor, Gavin Newsom, have spoken to Mrs. Bologna, because they know they are guilty as sin, for allowing the criminality to continue.

    By Maniac is accurate

    August 1, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

    I’m about to get really, really, really, filthy, stinking rich. I’m this close to patenting a process to turn junk e-mail into gasoline. Oh boy, this is so exciting!

    By cc

    August 1, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this

    Maybe now that the illegals are leaving we won’t have to push one for english. I’m glad they are leaving. And for those who want to come here legally learn to speak the language which is ENGLISH!!! One flag, one country, one language.

    By cc

    August 1, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this

    Maybe now that the illegals are leaving we won’t have to push one for english. I’m glad they are leaving. And for those who want to come here legally learn to speak the language which is ENGLISH!!! One flag, one country, one language.

    By Brittanicus

    August 3, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this

    You might want to ask your State representative energy conservation? How much gas, oil and electricity we could save, if we sent illegal aliens packing. We cannot keep up the demand for it right now! Oil! Diversity Alliance for Sustainable America.(earthtimes) stated in it’s article that if the U.S. grants amnesty and gives citizenship to 12 to 30 million illegal migrants already here, as McCain, Obama and the majority of Democrats propose. That all those naturalized citizens could possibly add 120 million U.S. and foreign-born relatives to the U.S., in the next 20 years whom all will CONSUME MAJOR ENERGY. Does the American people need to escalate the 315 million plus population, the census estimates we have now? To a new total of 435 million?

    The executive director of (DASA) admitted “Proposal to reduce energy costs in the U.S. will not work unless we also simultaneously curb U.S. population growth by reducing immigration and curbing teen pregnancies.” Severing the illegal immigration occupation and deporting those already here is a good start, but not the complete solution to this serious energy problem that cannot be reversed. Unless another Nikola Tesla, an underrated genius of the 19th century invents a some new form of energy, we will be reliant on fossil fuels for years to come? Clean coal, geothermal, eco-fuel and of course wind power and solar. The latter is energy that is a perpetual source of unimaginable power that knows no bounds.

    Americans cannot afford to subsidize illegal aliens here with billions in our tax dollars, or the millions who will jump the fence in the future. Only THE FEDERAL SAVE ACT (H.R.4088) offers any chance of halting this overpopulation quicksand It’s enactment will give ICE and the police more enforcement powers. Join NUMBERSUSA for free and become part of a solution and not lies.

    As an American patriot and a Independent (populist) I have just donated $50.00 to judicial watch. Even $10.00 will help. They are a non-profit law group Promoting Integrity, Transparency and Accountability in Government, Politics and the Law. The 9th District Court is a liberal-socialist, anti-sovereignty, pro-illegal immigration group of judges, who interprets the law from the bench. They undermined Californians Proposition 187, that would have terminated $billions of dollars in welfare benefits to illegal immigrants. Donate to Judicial Watch cause to effectively get the FEDERAL ‘RICO LAW’ interpreted by the US Supreme court and stop the travesty of our immigration laws and, fine, confiscate assets and imprison predatory employers. GOOGLE—Judicial Watch website for all details on government corruption. Join also NUMBERSUSA for free and read the truth, not lies released by our liberal, biased press.

    Commenting is open from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. M-F

    Post a comment



    Remember me?

    You may use the following formatting:
    Bold: **this text will be bolded** = this text will be bolded
    Italic: *this text will be italic* = this text will be italic
    Link: [text to be linked](http://www.ajc.com) = text to be linked



    There will be a delay of up to 5 minutes before your comment appears.


    *HTML not allowed in comments. Your e-mail address is required.

     

    Kudzu Services » Find the right people for the job