Thinking Right

By BFKaJ

July 31, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I preface my comments by affirming that I think immigration laws are foolishly uneconomic generally and adversely affect the quality of life in our American society and in our world. I also subscribe to the ancient aphorism – I think originally attributed to US Grant – that the surest way to repeal of bad legislation is its strict enforcement.

I agree that stricter enforcement of the immigration laws has led to a departure of many of those hard working guests. I note the concurrent decline in the American economy. While I have read other arguments that suggest the immigrants follow the economy – entering only when the economy is good and leaving only when the economy is bad – my sense is that those arguments are backwards. It is the arrival of hardworking foreign talent that spurs economic growth, and a hostile repudiation of those guests damages the economy generally. So we get the economy we deserve

By Shawny

July 31, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this

Illegals are not going home because of enforcing the laws. Illegals are going home because we are not building houses.

You are right, though, that enforcement is the key. We aren’t serious about deportation, like we should be.

It is annoying when you hear someone ask a candidate about developing a ‘path toward citizenship’. There IS a path toward citizenship, and the law has been in place since around 1920. Follow it, or get out, as you are a criminal, not a migrant. A migrant is a law abiding individual that has followed the law and now resides here legally. Migrants are welcome.

By TW

July 31, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this

Strange. It seems as though those who scream alarm aver the ‘illegals’ are of the same mind set that advocated the ovens for the ‘Jews’ and the trees for the Nig gers.

Hmmm.

WWJD?

By The Love Hack

July 31, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this

Wooten’s not going to be happy until we get a full fledge persecution of Hispanics in this country. Start enforcing immigration laws and bands of vigilantes will be out in force weeding out Mexicans from their lairs. I’m surprised there isn’t a reward for each Mexican captured. It’s easy to hate and despise Mexicans. In public life, America gets the behavior it posse’s.

The problem with any immigration final solution is that we dont have enough little Oliver Hardy half-moustaches to go around while we solve our national problem.

Get on the phone, Wooten, report your local immigrants to the immigration officials today.

The only person suggesting that a solution is viable is you. Deport them all at once is your idea. Amnesty is your word. You use “amnesty” like flip flop, not in any consideration of the masses of humanity exiled from Mexico, but rather to make sophomoric debating points during a campaign.

Flip flop. Amnesty. How can the democrats ever win anything with genius spin like that?

By Reality

July 31, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

Don’t kid yourselves, make it harder for them to work and they will turn to crime. Pay attention, yall. It is already happening.

By AJC/DNC Management

July 31, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

Iraq and the United States are close to a deal on a sensitive security agreement that Iraqi officials said on Wednesday satisfies the nation’s desire to be treated as sovereign and independent. While the current version does not specify any exact date, officials said, President Bush’s recent acknowledgment that withdrawal was an “aspirational goal” has revived the talks and pushed them closer to completion. “The intention is to maintain full sovereignty for Iraq with close observation of the security situation, which will determine exactly when Iraq will no longer need American forces,” said Jalaluddin al-Sagheer, a member of Parliament from the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq who is close to the negotiations.-Urinal/PMS

Well, well, after all of thee liberal whining, moaning and hair pulling, we are right back to where we started, the Bushie plan that all of the sycophants and goonies from the left wing mocked and drew cartoons about the last 5 years, when they stand up, we’ll stand down.

Bwa.

And notice how thee Lord High Dimwit Surrender To al Qaeda Plan has been tossed overboard?

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A House panel voted Wednesday to cite Karl Rove, formerly President Bush’s top aide, for contempt of Congress as its Senate counterpart explored punishment for alleged misdeeds by other administration officials, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah-Urinal/Moonbat

While the American people suffer every day under the yoke of high energy and food prices, the sucka-ss libs in Congress splash around on their rubber floats in the Fever Swamps.

Insane in the membrane.

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So, let’s see: The Bush Justice Department this week indicted a prominent Republican Senator for corruption less than 100 days before he’s up for re-election. But we are supposed to believe that Bush Justice is corruptly politicized because some of its dimmer bulbs asked job-seekers about their ideological leanings.

The Republicans can hire Martians to work in their Justice Department, if they so desire, it is nobody’s business but their own.

After all, you left wing cry babies had no problem with Klintoon doing it.

Ms. Gorelick was Deputy Attorney General under the hapless Janet Reno, serving as Hillary Clinton’s eyes and ears at what truly was the most political Justice Department since Richard Nixon’s. We recall that Ms. Gorelick attended a meeting where officials leaned on special counsel Don Smaltz to curb his probe. After her departure, Clinton Justice maintained a running feud with FBI Director Louis Freeh over investigating the campaign finance scandals of 1996, among other things. Having since made $26.5 million over five years at Fannie Mae, Ms. Gorelick is apparently now campaigning to be Barack Obama’s Attorney General.

Duh.

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Here’s a pro Lord High Dimwit campaign advertisement if there ever was one:

McCain vows to work with Pelosi- Urinal/DNC

Just imagine, holding hands and chanting Bushie Sucks together.

Or perhaps blinking mindlessly in unison.

WTF?

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*30 die as fighting escalates-Doom and Gloom/DNC

Why the horror!!!

Pakistani troops battled Islamic militants in a valley near the Afghan border Wednesday, killing 25 insurgents and losing five soldiers as escalating combat threatened the new government’s policy of offering peace to pro-Taliban groups.

Yeah, it’s like the Pakistanis are saying “here, scumbag, have a peace of this.”

Hahahaha.

Notice too how thee Urinal thinks surrendering to al Qaeda is threatened.

Sick.

By CJ

July 31, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this

Jim wrote, “In public life, we get the behaviors we buy.”

Ain’t that the truth?

Here’s the behavior we’ll be buying if we elect McCain for President: The Official John McCain Flip-Flop List

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 31, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this

Judge orders White House to find, preserve e-mails

If some Connecticut Democrats get their way, Sen. Joe Lieberman will be greeted at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota by a gigantic inflatable rat.

Anyway, bravo to Joe Klein for fighting back. As for Feith and Perle and Kristol and Bolton and Wolfowitz and Wurmser and Brooks and Krauthammer and Wieseltier and COMMENTARY and THE NEW REPUBLIC and the WASHINGTON POST editors and the rest of that crowd, they should shut up and volunteer at Walter Reed. For the rest of their lives

For what it’s worth, Barack Obama was also asked about the Britney-Paris ad: “You know, I don’t pay attention to John McCain’s ads, although I do notice he doesn’t seem to have anything to say very positive about himself. He seems to only be talking about me… You need to ask John McCain what he’s for and not just what he’s against

Four members of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, including Committee Chairwoman Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) yesterday called on EPA administrator Stephen Johnson to resign. That would be a very good idea

Hilarious Quote of the Day: “What you’re going to see is a great debate. Which is what the American public deserves. None of this negative stuff, though. You won’t see it come out of our side at all.” - Cindy McCain, Today Show, May 8, 2008.

Krugman: “[T]here was a combination of power without oversight and a deeply creepy cult of personality (which was obvious long before we got the latest specifics.) I think we were lucky to get out of this with democracy more or less intact

St. Pete Times eviscerates McCain and his campaign strategy of “lies and distortions”

RAND STUDY: War on Terrorism fundamentally flawed and doomed to fail Robert Arena • 7/30/2008 05:37:00 PM ET • Link 47 Comments • reddit • FARK • Digg It! Today’s Washington Post covers what amounts to a near complete repudiation of the Bush administration “terrorism” policy since 9/11. The fact that the study is coming from the RAND Corporation (SourceWatch profile) is huge. RAND, while technically non-partisan, has a long history shaping a hawkish US strategic policy. (To get a flavor of just what type of organization RAND is, Donald Rumsfeld has sat on their Board of Trustees.)The Bush administration’s terrorism-fighting strategy has not significantly undermined al-Qaeda’s capabilities, according to a major new study that argues the struggle against terrorism is better waged by law enforcement agencies than by armies. The study by the nonpartisan Rand Corp. also contends that the administration committed a fundamental error in portraying the conflict with al-Qaeda as a “war on terrorism.” The phrase falsely suggests that there can be a battlefield solution to terrorism, and symbolically conveys warrior status on terrorists, it said.

Former Mississippi senator Trent Lott, who left Congress last year to become a lobbyist, is alleged to have “urged witnesses to give false information in a Hurricane Katrina lawsuit.”

Pentagon Attempted To Cover-Up KBR’s Negligence In Electrocution Of U.S. Soldier

Bush threatens to veto equal pay for women.

2005 White House hiring directive: ‘Place as many of our Bush loyalists as possible.’

Secretary Of Energy Repeats Katrina Oil Spill Lie: ‘Not One Case’ Where Oil ‘Spilled In The Environment’

Olbermann: White House sent me talking points too, ‘I still have them.’

Coburn’s Obstructionism Leaves 44,000 Paralyzed Veterans In The Lurch

Newt’s ‘American Solutions’ Is A Front Group For King Coal

By TW

July 31, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this

CJ - thanks for your list of McSame Flip-Flops

Sadly, I really don’t think it’s his fault - two reasons

By John

July 31, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

I’m all for more enforcement and glad that it might be working, but could the decrease in population also be due to the housing crunch?..builders are building less which means less jobs for construction workers (i.e., mexican immigrants)

By Chicago

July 31, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

Nice work TW. Next time you see a black person, please use that same quote and tell me what happens; after he’s done kickin your a$$!

By Ray

July 31, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this

BFK,

A “guest” is someone who is invited into your home, not someone who entered it illegally. There is one helluva difference here.
We are a nation of laws, passed by the Congress and enforced by the courts. That’s the way it has worked for sometime now. When we ignore the laws for political or economic gain, we become an unprotected nation that is at risk from the outside. Try doing this in Switzerland or in Mexico for that matter.
These “guests” are pushing the limits of the infrastructure in many communities running up the costs of health care, education and welfare subsidies. Once again our Congress sits on their collectives asses and doesn’t enforce our laws. Who knows, there might be a vote or two out there.

By NewsFlash

July 31, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

I thought McCain supported amnesty. Seriously though, at least Mr. Wooten gave an honorable mention to the primary reason for the reduction in the Hispanic population in Atlanta and the surrounding counties — the lack of jobs. The poultry processing industry here in Georgia can only absorb so many Hispanics so the rest had to head out to the fields and start picking tomatoes, jalapeños, etc. Of course, the Hispanics working in remote locations in fields and factories are not nearly as visible to folks like Mr. Wooten as those that were building houses. Out of sight, out of mind.

By RCH

July 31, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

As many times I wrote on this subject and was vilified I stand vindicated.When one part of the equation was removed( jobs,housing,free medical,etc.), in this case employment,tens of thousands picked up their marbles and left.It didn’t take a big round-up. Unlike the pro-illegal immigrant crowd always ranted, there wasn’t mass arrests or individuals stoped on the street. They simply left.

They(illegals) also left us holding the bag of tens of millions of dollars that where siphoned off for their use.(schools, medical,food stamps,etc.) I hope you do gooders are willing to pay that bill with your money not mine.

By Sam

July 31, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

Migrating to America legally is, and should be, a long, drawn-out procedure meant to protect the interests of American citizens. It involves more than simply jumping a fence and heading north in pursuit of free health care, education, food stamps, and other handouts paid for by U.S. taxpayers.

Legal immigration means enduring rigorous hurdles like background checks to detect a criminal background or possible ties to terrorists; medical examinations to detect diseases still prevalent in third-world nations, but long since eradicated here; proof of financial solvency so as to prevent newcomers from becoming a burden on U.S. taxpayers, and testing for knowledge of American history and English skills.

Those who have jumped a fence into America in order to avoid our immigration checks are not immigrants. Rather, they are invading criminals, with no claim whatsoever to the welcome mat extended to legal immigrants.

Such people do not deserve recognition or sanction by the United States, and should be rounded up and deported as soon as possible, without exception.

Another word game played by pro-illegal aliens is to call these miscreants “undocumented.” The implication of this term is that the invaders are simply missing a piece of paper or two, probably some unnecessary bureaucratic red tape designed to keep brown people out.

In truth, illegal aliens have invaded our nation, leaving America vulnerable to undetected crime, terrorism, disease, and financial devastation at the hands of people with no legal or moral justification for being here.

By TW

July 31, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

Chicago - if I were scared of people who weren’t exactly like me I’d be a republican.

WWJD?

By Bosch

July 31, 2008 9:14 AM | Link to this

Good morning bloggers, and a special good morning to you Mrs. G - you are very busy, I hope Joe is doing okay and not feeling neglected. :-)

Immigration. Sigh. Tough subject. I have to say I mostly agree with Mr. Wooten. The polar opposites are always the extreme and in my opinion, very unrealistic. Which brings many to the dillemma of what is the best solution to the problem.

It’s pretty obvious to me that the influx of illegal immigration is due to the lack of enforcement of the laws and the immigrants willing to work for practically nothing helps business (which leads to a reduction of enforcement).

Also, many forget, this has been happening for over 20 years. Americans and their perpetual ADD state of minds forget that. Suddenly NOW, it’s forefront on everyone’s mind. Why now? Well, that’s another discussion.

Many people who disagree with my political viewpoints are always quick to say, well leave, “Delta is ready when you are.” Those type statements are ignorant, because it demonstrates that the sayer of such comment does not realize that most countries in the Western world actually DO enforce immigration laws (not perfect, but better than we do).

What’s the solution? I don’t know, but if I were in charge, border protection would be the biggest priority for national security. I think it is also important to find out WHY immigrants are here. Some are here for temporary work and some are not.

We need to make becoming a citizen more timely, if that’s what one choses, the reason many are “illegal” is that it takes YEARS for some to become “legal.”

So in other words, a combination of “amnesty” (I hate that word, but it’s the best I can come up with right now, I’m on my first cup of coffee) and border protection is the best plan.

But it’s also important to keep in mind that illegal immigrants are human and even if you don’t like their actions, deserve to be treated with civility.

By Sam

July 31, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Migrating to America legally is, and should be, a long, drawn-out procedure meant to protect the interests of American citizens. It involves more than simply jumping a fence and heading north in pursuit of free health care, education, food stamps, and other handouts paid for by U.S. taxpayers.

Legal immigration means enduring rigorous hurdles like background checks to detect a criminal background or possible ties to terrorists; medical examinations to detect diseases still prevalent in third-world nations, but long since eradicated here; proof of financial solvency so as to prevent newcomers from becoming a burden on U.S. taxpayers, and testing for knowledge of American history and English skills.

Those who have jumped a fence into America in order to avoid our immigration checks are not immigrants. Rather, they are invading criminals, with no claim whatsoever to the welcome mat extended to legal immigrants.

Such people do not deserve recognition or sanction by the United States, and should be rounded up and deported as soon as possible, without exception.

Another word game played by pro-illegal aliens is to call these miscreants “undocumented.” The implication of this term is that the invaders are simply missing a piece of paper or two, probably some unnecessary bureaucratic red tape designed to keep brown people out.

In truth, illegal aliens have invaded our nation, leaving America vulnerable to undetected crime, terrorism, disease, and financial devastation at the hands of people with no legal or moral justification for being here.

By Fix-It

July 31, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this

The American people are so gullible. If our corrupt government wanted to stop illegal border crossing they could. But why would the dimacrats want to alienate there core voters? All of the boneheads that don’t want to stop it should go down to the border towns in Texas and see what is happening to the American way of life, they would do a 180 on their views. I am all for people immigrating here, but please get in line we can’t accommodate the whole world. And for the idiots who say “They are doing jobs that we won’t do” what a lie that is. We survived several hundred years with out illegal immigration and if it stopped tomorrow we would still get those jobs done.

By T

July 31, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this

Does anyone know if this “amnesty” thing give them social security numbers and a bill for back taxes?

By NewsFlash

July 31, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

BFK, your perversions are duly noted.

RCH, why not ask the people who hired the illegal aliens to pick up the tab instead of those who like to think of themselves as do gooders.

Andy, blah blah blah back at you.

By Paul

July 31, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla 8:45

I was interested in the back story on your Joe Klein piece - what’s all the fuss about? Seems Klein says most neocons are Jews. Hmmmm. Getting into dangerous ground, there. Does Klein assert they’re practicing? Orthodox? Reformed? That they put Israel’s interests above America’s? There was this line from the link:

[[I am anti-neoconservative. I think these people are following very perversely extremist policies and I really did believe that it was time for mainstream Jews to stand up and say, “They don’t represent us, they don’t represent Israel.”]]

Don’t I recall many on the Left criticized those who called upon //practicing// Muslims to condemn Muslim extremists. Wasn’t there a lot of criticism for, oddly enough, denouncing terrorists as Muslim? Wasn’t the point made they weren’t really Muslim, or if they were, they were perverting Islam?

But when it comes to neocons…

I’ve written in the past for my disdain for the Perles and Wolfowitzs of the world. But making the case because they’re Jewish and tying it into the “Israeli lobby” - isn’t that the stuff of farfarrightwing conspiracy groups?

McCain’s going negative will cost him. (Maybe as much as Obama’s refusing public funding will cost him?). (Joke). There are better ways to raise issues of fitness for office than with the personal attacks.

Citing the St Pete paper for going after McCain has all the punch of citing the Young Republicans for going after Obama.

Rand Study: I cited them once on the AJC forum, my argument was criticized because Rand is a think tank heavily funded by the Defense Dept. But that doesn’t matter to the Left, now. Progress!

[[2005 White House hiring directive: ‘Place as many of our Bush loyalists as possible.’]]

2009 White House hiring directive: “Do not place Obama loyalists. Ensure diversity. Place as many McCain loyalists as possible.”

[[Olbermann: White House sent me talking points too, ‘I still have them.’]]

Olbermann goes hyperbolic with over the top rhetoric and the White House sends him rebuttal view. Oh, the horror! The attempted media manipulation!! Will our free press survive?!!?

How does Newt have credibility?

Ray

[[We are a nation of laws]]

Mostly we want the laws that we like enforced. We don’t want inconvenient laws that we don’t like enforced. Like the ones about not inflating deductions at tax time. Or those laws that dictate the maximum speed we can drive under the best of conditions. Or the ones that have us declare what we actually paid for that used car so we can pay a fair tax.

Personally, I’d like to see the same attention and sanctions paid to employers. There are some instances, but it’s pretty spotty.

General question - with all these illegals leaving, we should see a drop in unemployment, ‘cause there are a bunch of unemployed Americans who want the jobs illegals have take, right?

By The Love Hack

July 31, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this

Bosch, WTF R U doing? This isn’t myspace. Simply state your opinion and move on. You still wont get read, but you also wont waste so much band. Even your dingdong is a waste of Waistband.

Lets just take a look at what point Bosch eventually made: My critics are ignorant. I’m ignorant of the solution. I’m my own worst critic.

Debating points: zero

Grade: zzzzz

Criteria Match 4: moron

next.

By AJC/DNC Management

July 31, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

Putting words in McBushie’s mouth:

“Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they’re going to try to do is make you scared of me,” Lord High Dimwit said. “You know, he’s not patriotic enough, he’s got a funny name, you know, he doesn’t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.”

It was the KKKlintons who said that, homey.

So this is what American policy debate has come down to, after all these years of adult leadership, thoughtful and carefully planned growth that led to us being the world’s lone superpower, now we are reduced to some dimwit whining and moaning about things that do not even exist.

Show me where McCain said anything about the “dollar bill” or “looking different than any other president” or making an issue out of this uptight cry baby’s name.

You got one thing right, Nancy, you ain’t no patriot.

Day in and day out saying America isn’t good enough, throwing us under the bus for the amusement and pleasure of some foreign morons.

FY, Obama.

By Dusty

July 31, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this

Of course Jim Wooten is for legal immigration. He was an advocate for following the law yesterday and he’s the same today.

Yes, our ‘illegals’ work hard. Yes, they are a family loving people. Yes, most are religious. That said, they have still broken the immigration laws of the USA.

Are we to excuse our Latin neighbors of illegal activity and not do it for others? People around the world desire American citizenship. Are we to pick and choose whom to ignore while forcing the law on others?

The law must apply to all. Exceptions should be rare, not in the millions. A middle road plan has been suggested as humane and fair. I’m for that one. But it must be on a firm legal basis.

AJC/DNC Management @8:31

I couldn’t help but smile over your perfect description of Congress.

While American people suffer every day under the yoke of high energy and food prices, the sucka-ss libs in Congress splash around in their rubber floats in the Fever Swamp. (Like a Rove investigation I might add.)

Well said, Andy, and right to the point.

By NewsFlash

July 31, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

Fix-it, that would be George Bush that said those people are doing the jobs that the rest of us won’t do. More precisely, they’re doing the jobs at the level of pay and benefits that no one else is willing to accept.

By Ray

July 31, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this

TW,

Your moronic posts are like a pimple on someones a*. They are sophomoric, debasing and totally unnecessary. They serve no purpose except to point out how absolutely stupid you must be. Stick to the subject without all of the defaming rhetoric. Your ignorance is showing.

By Dennis

July 31, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten writes, “In public life, we get the behaviors we buy. Signal that laws matter by enforcing them and people pay attention. Wink and waive and they don’t. Simple.”

Well, what is the proper response here to Mr. Wooten’s statement?

He bought the Bush administration’s lies for years and years (seemingly, he still does) and he wanted us to buy into those as well. And he has berated those of us who would not and did not.

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By Paul

July 31, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

Love Hack

I counted eight points or issues raised by Bosch. It’s a shame you couldn’t address any of them.

AJC/DNC Management

Aren’t those remarks by Obama form of ‘going negative?” I’ve already noted his constant linking of “Bush-McCain” to apply antiBush feeling to McCain is less than honest. Politically astute, maybe, but he knows better than what he’s saying.

By AJC/DNC Management

July 31, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

Why don’t y’all just run Cynthia Tucker for president?

Did Obama Accuse McCain of Running a Racist, Xenophobic Campaign?

“John McCain right now, he’s spending an awful lot of time talking about me,” Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said today in Rolla, Mo. “You notice that? I haven’t seen an ad yet where he talks about what he’s gonna do. And the reason is because those folks know they don’t have any good answers, they know they’ve had their turn over the last eight years and made a mess of things. They know that you’re not real happy with them.”

Obama continued: “And so the only way they figure they’re going to win this election is if they make you scared of me.

I’ve seen racism in campaigns before — I’ve seen it against Obama in this campaign (more from Democrats than Republicans, at this point, I might add.)

Lord High Dimwit Cry Baby playing the race card, what an awesome display of “leadership.”

Losers.

By RCH

July 31, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

NewsFlash

I agree.That should be part of the equation for stopping illegal immigration. Knowingly hiring an illegal is a million dollar fine and a year in jail for the CEO or president of the firm. I bet it would stop today

By Bosch

July 31, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Dusty,

Middle of the road plan? Can you elaborate?

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 31, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

Bosch,

Good morning to you too!

Joe sits close beside me in the evenings and early mornings as I do my homework. He’s got a new collar!

Joe allows no illegal immigration into our yard to be sure! Any lizard making his way over the fence, ends up outside without his tail - literally! (Lou Dobbs would just love that!)

As always, your post was well done. I agree that securing our borders should be first and foremost. This is a national security issue that the Administration and Congress has failed on.

I also consider the humanitarian aspects. I still stick with that whole, whatsoever you do do the least of my brothers concept.

Let’s do our part to save the world today, shall we?

By CommunistAJC

July 31, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla, Shouldn’t you be giving Bill Clinton some good head?

By The Love Hack

July 31, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Anyone notice the celebrity idol comparison ad McCain ran against Obama yesterday?

My comment the day before that ad ran was:

McCain’s campaign is on idle. Obama’s campaign is on idol.

I also write often: “Obama: Leading Americans to America”. etc.

I really have my finger on the pulse of the campaign, dont you think?

By george hussein washington

July 31, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

After seven and a half disasterous years of stinking Repuke rule, the chimp has finally decided to enforce the immigration laws? More Lies from the Father of Lies, the GOP, may they all git skin cancer and die real slow like…but painfully. Just to ruin your day further, the main stream news media last night broadcast stories confirming BIG LIE of McCancerFace, that is that DRILL, DRILL, DRILL is really more about LIE, LIE, LIE….They confirmed my observation that we do not have the drilling rigs or crews to exploit offshore oil reserves in anything less than five to 30 years….Despite Dirty Ball’s simple minded comment that “we are already getting oil from off shore waters.” All existing oil rigs are firmly committed under contract for the next three to five years, and all rigs currently under construction are under contract for the next three to five years of production, mostly to forgeign countries and oil companies. Most of the construction is occurring in Korea, Norway, and China…we have little capability left in that area. It seems that our ship yards are only capable of building over priced war ships, which consume oil. Did you know that a nuclear powered aircraft carrier requires a tanker full of aviation fuel every three days to maintain air operations? Smart attack submarine captains follow the long trail of tankers to the aircraft carrier battle group, call in their fellow hunter killers, and launch a coordinated attack. But crybabies would call that a war crime….I call dropping bombs on third world villages a war crime….any how, Kick a Repuke Today….

By Road Scholar

July 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Mr Fix-It:

By Road Scholar

July 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Mr Fix-It:

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July 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Mr Fix-It:

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July 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Mr Fix-It:

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July 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Mr Fix-It:

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July 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Mr Fix-It:

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July 31, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Mr Fix-It:

By Bob

July 31, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this

Illegals need to be deported. There is still not of that going on. I’ve heard some say they will shoot before being taken in for deportation. Vigilante Justice isn’t the answer, but the primary function of government is to protect it’s citizens. If we can’t get rid of invaders who have hurt this country, we don’t need government.

By CommunistAJC

July 31, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

george hussein washington troglodyte, I thought the father of all lies in politics is your daddy Bill Clinton? If Bush lies all the time then indict him and impeach him. What’s that? Oh yeah, they can’t do it. Why? Because princess Nancy doesn’t have any balls. Literally and figuratively speaking. SO go sell stupid somewhere else. I’m sure the mental patients over at Daily Kos would love to hear your rhetoric. I mean, you guys/gals are full of s&*^ anyway and love to eat each others arses.

By JeremiahWright

July 31, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Hope it’s true. I hope the rest leave.

TW, Jesus would demand the laws of the land be enforced.

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 31, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

Hey everybody

Communist AJC/DUH/ANDI/RW/RB/whateever

posts

{{By CommunistAJC

July 31, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla, Shouldn’t you be giving Bill Clinton some good head? }}

Anybody here wanna bet DUH wouldn’t know the difference between good and bad? That would require experience

For the normal people here, sorry, but this creature really needs to learn to behave like a decent human being.

He’s just plain gross.

By Mrs. Godzilla

July 31, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

Exxon Mobil broke its own record for “the highest-ever profit by a U.S. company,” as second-quarter profits rose 14 percent. “Net income in the quarter rose to $11.68 billion, or $2.22 a share, from $10.26 billion, or $1.83 a share, last year.”

John McCain addressed a town hall meeting in Rochester, NY, today, and the line that everyone will be talking about, or would, if anyone in the media felt like applying any scrutiny to the McCain campaign, is this:My friends, we have to drill offshore. We have to do it! Oil executives say within a couple years we could be seeing results from it. So why not do it? We need to do it.

washingtonpost.com — Campaign contributions from oil industry executives to Sen. John McCain rose dramatically in the last half of June, after the senator from Arizona made a high-profile split with environmentalists and reversed his opposition to the federal ban on offshore drilling. The amount given? $1.1 million. $892,000 more than the month before.

pieces of the same puzzle, eh?

By Bosch

July 31, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Good morning Paul,

Isn’t Love Hack’s post kind of like someone saying, “I never call anyone names you stupid Mother F&*cker!?”

Always a classic. :-)

Mrs. G -

I LOVE Joe’s new collar. Lou Dobbs. What a character. I had to stop watching him, he was getting a little over the top for me. He always focuses on the problems, but like I said earlier, he does not see the humanitarian aspects of it, or rather does not think there is one.

“whatsoever you do do the least of my brothers concept”

That definitely gets lost in the hate.

Save the world? I’m with you! A little bit at a time, right?

By A Average Joe

July 31, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Answer me this, what benefit do I, the average Joe receives from immigration legal or otherwise? None. I am not a corporation relying on labor that is cheap to make obscene profits. Call me selfish but if you haven’t noticed, benefits offered by corporations such as retirement and medical is nearly non-existant. For the average Joe, the quality of life, once you have retired, is in decline with more and more having to rely soley upon meager social security that may or may not exist in 20 years. If there is minimal, or no competition in the labor market, there is no benefits offered. The economy peaks and declines in cycles and labor demands do the same, this is nothing new however, wages during some cycles anymore stay the same. Across the board cost of goods and services have risen but wages have not. Why should they? Corporations can hire a legal or illegal immigrant and pay current or less wages than a citizens. Corporation keep the wages low and increase the cost of goods. Its a win win situation while the U.S. public rely’s upon credit cards to survive. How many people have $25,000.00 cash in savings? I doubt very many however, I bet many have $25,000.00 in credit card debt. This was unheard of 25 years ago. Bankruptsy in this country is at a rate never before seen and still creditors are posting record profits. Think about it. Wages are stagnet do to abundance of cheap workers. These cheap workers are mainley immigrants. There standard of living has increased 10 fold once they crossed that border. The avaerage Joe’s standard of living decreases everytime a immigrant crosses that border. Free trade and immigration is not free. The average Joe pays for it

By BFKaJ

July 31, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this

Dear Ray @ 8:55, I suspect you and I will find no ground for agreement. I certainly perceive that no guest would ever just “drop in” to visit you. You magnify the genius of legislation qua legislation – I perceive the imputed wisdom of the Congressional overlords is grossly overstated. When we pass uneconomic laws for the sake of racism or envy or just because we do not like the way strange little people with strange little languages smell, we injure the economic fabric of our country; I think there is no reason to magnify the genius of such legislation, and there is no economic justification for the constraint on immigration.. You suggest, “These “guests” are pushing the limits of the infrastructure in many communities running up the costs of health care, education and welfare subsidies.” When you have a stupid welfare law, the solution is not to enact immigration restrictions, you revise your stupid welfare laws. Address the underlying cause of the problem, not the symptom. As to the comparative economic contributions of our immigrant friends, I have less distress from immigrants than I do with our home-grown thugs and layabouts. Quite the contrary, I have the greatest admiration for people who desperately wish to be here, to carve out a place in the world, who will endeavor to overcome handicaps of language and prejudice just to compete. These immigrants, especially our Latin American and Korean friends, are religious, hard-working, self-reliant, personally responsible, and every one of them is a potential republican conservative – I want more of them here.

By SaveOurRepublic

July 31, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

First of all, the illegal immigrant population far beyond the 11.2 million number reference by Mr.Wooten. Given the mass influx (thanks to open borders & the American taxpayer subsidies to attract the illegals), I’d estimate the number at 20-30 million (easily).

While I’m certainly not a “bleeding-heart”, I hold no animosity towards most (non-criminal) illegals themselves. My anger is directed at the gutless, traitorous, Globalist puppets on “Crapitol sHill” who continue to allow open borders, undermine the Border Patrol, and are either neglectfully ignorant or in traitorous support of (very real) North American Union (NAU)/SPP. The NAU is using NAFTA as it’s foundation…as is the NAFTA/NASCO “Superhighway” (within it’s Kansas City “inland port”). The NAU is a direct affront to U.S. sovereignty, borders and the future of our Constitutional Republic!

Despite the window-dressing INS/ICE immigration raids (trotted out by the Neocons to appease their largely deceived voter base), the true problem lies with the innumerous incentives for illegals to come here. The solution to the illegal invasion is multi-faceted…end birthright citizenship (for anchor babies), end all taxpayer subsidies for illegals, build the Pacific to Gulf border fence, aggressively enforce ALL immigration laws & most importantly…end NAFTA & the NAU asap. This being said, the Globalist Elite owns the majority of those on “Crapitol sHill” (save for patriots like Ron Paul), so it’s extremely doubtful most of the solution will ever be implemented. As Americans, all we can do is educate one another on these facts & demand our elected officials protect our sovereignty, borders and future of the (very quickly dwindling) middle class!

http://www.numbersusa.com

By A Average Joe

July 31, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Answer me this, what benefit do I, the average Joe receives from immigration legal or otherwise? None. I am not a corporation relying on labor that is cheap to make obscene profits. Call me selfish but if you haven’t noticed, benefits offered by corporations such as retirement and medical is nearly non-existant. For the average Joe, the quality of life, once you have retired, is in decline with more and more having to rely soley upon meager social security that may or may not exist in 20 years. If there is minimal, or no competition in the labor market, there is no benefits offered. The economy peaks and declines in cycles and labor demands do the same, this is nothing new however, wages during some cycles anymore stay the same. Across the board cost of goods and services have risen but wages have not. Why should they? Corporations can hire a legal or illegal immigrant and pay current or less wages than a citizens. Corporation keep the wages low and increase the cost of goods. Its a win win situation while the U.S. public rely’s upon credit cards to survive. How many people have $25,000.00 cash in savings? I doubt very many however, I bet many have $25,000.00 in credit card debt. This was unheard of 25 years ago. Bankruptsy in this country is at a rate never before seen and still creditors are posting record profits. Think about it. Wages are stagnet do to abundance of cheap workers. These cheap workers are mainley immigrants. There standard of living has increased 10 fold once they crossed that border. The avaerage Joe’s standard of living decreases everytime a immigrant crosses that border. Free trade and immigration is not free. The average Joe pays for it

By A Average Joe

July 31, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Answer me this, what benefit do I, the average Joe receives from immigration legal or otherwise? None. I am not a corporation relying on labor that is cheap to make obscene profits. Call me selfish but if you haven’t noticed, benefits offered by corporations such as retirement and medical is nearly non-existant. For the average Joe, the quality of life, once you have retired, is in decline with more and more having to rely soley upon meager social security that may or may not exist in 20 years. If there is minimal, or no competition in the labor market, there is no benefits offered. The economy peaks and declines in cycles and labor demands do the same, this is nothing new however, wages during some cycles anymore stay the same. Across the board cost of goods and services have risen but wages have not. Why should they? Corporations can hire a legal or illegal immigrant and pay current or less wages than a citizens. Corporation keep the wages low and increase the cost of goods. Its a win win situation while the U.S. public rely’s upon credit cards to survive. How many people have $25,000.00 cash in savings? I doubt very many however, I bet many have $25,000.00 in credit card debt. This was unheard of 25 years ago. Bankruptsy in this country is at a rate never before seen and still creditors are posting record profits. Think about it. Wages are stagnet do to abundance of cheap workers. These cheap workers are mainley immigrants. There standard of living has increased 10 fold once they crossed that border. The avaerage Joe’s standard of living decreases everytime a immigrant crosses that border. Free trade and immigration is not free. The average Joe pays for it

By Dusty

July 31, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

Now now Paul.

You wouldn’t accuse Obama of being politically astute but he knows better than he’s saying, would you?

Obama would make the best used car saleman in history. He would convince you of his complete honesty, his smiles are for YOU, he knows exactly what you are looking for, and he has the perfect model for your needs. While he shakes your hand gently and pats your arm, the stark aged hulk without adornments behind him stands ignored.

The other salesmen stand around entranced and applaud his performance. Obama would being an upward spike to the used car business. Only the buyer will later learn of the salesman’s plan. That is, to sell the model no matter what happens later.

By The Love Hack

July 31, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this

It wouldn’t take much to turn us all into illegal immigration vigilantes.

If that’s the war you want, keep blogging your fears and hatreds.

It’s very easy to hate. Very easy. Be careful, most of you do not know what you do when you blog your fears. it’s contagious. Read the logic of hate, it’s irresistible.

We are leaderless. We are on the verge of becomming an unruly mob.

Obama 08: Leading Americans back to America.

By CommunistAJC

July 31, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Mrs. Godzilla, Then you admit that Bill Clinton is just gross? Or that he left a bad taste in your mouth? I’m sure most people look at what I typed as comedy. But libs like you hate comedy when it comes roaring in your direction. You can dish it but you can’t take it. Don’t you have feminist parades to attend? Any Vagina Monologue cameos to make?

By CommunistAJC

July 31, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this

Obama Hussein 08: Leading Americans in to communism.

By george hussein washington

July 31, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

CommunistAJC has been sent to detention hall in summer make up school for stupid kids….commie was caught picking his nose and eating snot while posting nonsense on school computers….Big Boys said to pick on him at recess….Little girls too….

By zeke

July 31, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

There is absolutely no reason we cannot round all of the illegals up and send them back to their home countries! It is nothing wrong or inhumane with protecting our country and enforcing it’s laws and Constitution! There will be no shortege of workers, if, if, the federal and state governments will purge the welfare and unemployment rolls and put able bodied people to work instead of giving them a handout equal of the money that they can make working a legitimate job! Our population would go down, only legal immigrants will be here, the economy will surge, state and national spending would go down, taxes would not have to be raised and we will be a safer more humane society! What about the children born here? Simple! If your parents are not here legally, the constitutional provision of citizenship does not apply!

By The Love Hack

July 31, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Dusty, maybe you should try another tact. Obama as used car salesmen is too easily dismissed by voters. It’s hack.

Why dont you try something original. I know, I’ll give this to you free since you obviously cant think for yourself: The Pregnant Obama!

Yes, Obama is not only just like Brittany and Paris in that they’re idols, but also because he has a womb!

Anyone notice the celebrity idol comparison ad McCain ran against Obama yesterday?

My comment the day before that ad ran was:

McCain’s campaign is on idle. Obama’s campaign is on idol.

I also write often: “Obama: Leading Americans to America”. etc.

I really have my finger on the pulse of the campaign, dont you think?

Go dusty, go!

By Paul

July 31, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Hello Bosch

Either that, or “I can’t address the issue so I’ll call names.”

Kinda the same thing I heard this morning with Rep DeFazio (D-OR) this morning. Interviewer asked, given Spkr Pelosi said two years ago the Congress was going to take action to lower the price of gas, and that was when gas was $2.50 a gallon, what exactly has Congress done?”

His first word “George Bush…”

Average Joe 9:55

[[Answer me this, what benefit do I, the average Joe receives from immigration legal or otherwise?]]

You had the great good fortune to be born in America.

I’d call that a pretty good benefit that happened only because your ancestors were immigrants.

Pathetic.

He was then asked why the Dems don’t support offshore drilling even though three fourths of those polled do.

His response? “We do support drilling.” But he never addressed offshore.

By Tuffy, The Airborne Soldier

July 31, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

Damn. Just when I thought that Wooten and me would never, ever, agree on a point. Ooops, he went and did it.

I am not against immigrants that are legally and rightfully in our country. It’s the other ones that are here illegally stressing our infrastructure and taking jobs aways from American citizens. Hell, get a work visa, something. We don’t need more laws, a fence, or more politicing. We need to enforce the laws. Period. No subcommitte meetings, capitol hill hearings, and endless pages of testimony. ENFORCE THE FRIKKIN’ LAW. If they are here illegally assess a fine, give them 30 days to get the process started, if not, time to go home. Simple. Damn. Me and Wooten agreed on something. I need to see my shrink…

By Bosch

July 31, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Average Joe,

The middle class usually gets the brunt end of all financial deals. I agree that most Americans are really irresponsible with their credit cards.

I feel that most Americans are unwilling to do without, not basic necessities like food, but get confused about what is needed, what is wanted, and do not conserve enough.

But don’t blame it all on the illegal immigrants. Most come here to work and have a better life.

How does it affect you? The food you eat for one. Ever buy chicken nuggets? Ever go on vacation and stay in a hotel? Ever go to a restaurant? Bought a newly built home lately?

It affects us all, and all of us are to blame.

By Bronco

July 31, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this

Let’s not make laws and then not enforce them. Thats why they are called illegals they are illegal. Mexicans , indians, polish it doesn’t matter. Like my neighbors who have junk cars out the Wizoo sitting in the yard in clear view of the highway, but does anyone enforce the “laws” no they turn their head for some reason.

By Chicago

July 31, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

TW, typical redneck Georgian comment. For you to use that defaming term, and then end your post with WWJD is off the wall. Since your so bold how about you do what I said then. Just make sure you don’t use it when I’m around, or I will kick your a$$!! Believe it.

By Fix-It

July 31, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

NewsFlash, I want some of what you are smoking! If we removed 100% of the illegal aliens I would bet you that not only would those jobs get done, Americans would do them. If your logic is correct, how did we survive for the last 300 years? All you beading heart liberals want to talk about the cost of the war and the lives that have been lost, how come you never mention the 300 to 400 billion a year that the illegal aliens cost us? How come you forget that illegal aliens kill more people in America daily than in Iraq and Afghanistan combined?

By Paul

July 31, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

Dusty

Many have criticized our extended primary season for being ‘too long.’ It appears a benefit is time to get to know the unknowns. Maybe.

I see Ludacris is in the news, again. The Obama campaign has finally learned the value of an early smackdown. But - and we’re seeing this time and time again - with friends like that, who needs enemies?

If Obama loses, I’m not sure who’ll be the most responsible - McCain, or Obama’s “supporters.”

By CommunistAJC

July 31, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

zeke, You see, if we sent all illegals back to Mexico then the democrat party would lose half its voters. Most of their voters are uneducated to begin with. Illegals just add to the democrat party. That’s when the race card comes up. In a libs mind, right is wrong and wrong is right. They protect baby killers, child molesters, and criminals of every kind. Why else do you think 99% of trial lawyers are democrats? I mean look at John Edwards, he spent most of his life chasing ambulances and spends more time these days chasing tail. Hello love child. But hey, to a lib, its perfectly normal to cheat on your wife who has cancer.

By Eva

July 31, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

First off, not all illegals are Hispanic - people need to get off that kick. I know plenty of illegals from Europe/Afria/Australia.

I’m an immigrant, and recently sworn in US citizen. It was a long and arduous process, with plenty of red tape, FBI checks, etc. And yet I’m still being told by natural born citizens to get the *&#@ out of their country - I get the warm fuzzies every time I hear those words!

Illegal immigration makes all immigrants look bad - I get the questioning glance from some people, no doubt they’re wondering if I’m legal or not. Employers have a lot to answer to over this - stricter enforcement of fines for hiring illegals needs to be in place. Harsher penalites for repeat offenders. Have a system set up which makes it easy to verify a SSN.

Issuing drivers licences to illegals is a whole other debate; no licence, no auto insurance. No insurance could leave you with a hefty bil should you happen to have an accident.

Open borders make it very easy to enter the US. More so from some (if all) European countries, where a US visa isn’t a requirement for any stay less than 90 days. So people pop in for a holiday and conveniently forget to pop back out again, making the rest of us look bad.

By CommunistAJC

July 31, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Chicago, This may be the first time I agree with you.

By BFKaJ

July 31, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Dear Mrs. Godzilla @ 9:53, I think we would agree that the leftists thought additional freedom to permit energy production was a bad idea when oil was $35/barrel and still think it is a bad idea @ $125/barrel. The intellectual consistency is admirable. I thought the leftist view stupid at both price levels.

I credit McCain for changing his mind with changing circumstances, disproving Carl Sagan’s argument. “In science it often happens that scientists say, ‘You know that’s a really good argument; my position is mistaken,’ and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn’t happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time someting like that happened in politics or religion.”

By Paul

July 31, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

Bosch - Average Joe

My 10:11 [[He was then asked why the Dems don’t support offshore drilling even though three fourths of those polled do. His response? “We do support drilling.” But he never addressed offshore.”]]

was supposed to line up with my remarks on DeFazio.

By The Love Hack

July 31, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

My name is pancho I live on the rancho I make five pesos a day. I go see my lucy I play with her P_ssy she takes my five pesos away.

That was the first anti immigrant song/joke I ever heard. People played the marijuana card in the twenties and thirties to deport Mexican illegals. They claimed that pot was being imported along with cheap labor. It was a lie, but….

Now, conservatives are trying to put the terror war together with illegals. It’s a lie, but…..

Do I like having illegals around? No. Could I be inspired to vigilantism? Yes.

Is that going to solve anything? No. We can make this country a living hell if we want.

Most campaign debates are distractions. As we stumble toward the conventions and the Veep Opts. If this were a horse race, we are approaching the far turn. The conventions are the far turn.

Down the stretch, as it becomes painfully obvious that Obama will win in a total historic landslide, the conservative tone will get even nastier than it is now.

Let it go, let the GOP be, my fellow democrats. We’ve got a country to save, and a world to convince.

By Common Sense

July 31, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

To Commy:

That comment directed toward Mrs. Gozilla was not comical! You need to ease up on the BS!

Now Dusty! It takes a use car saleperson to convince a nation of people who like negative news about other to make them feel better!

The political process is extremely weak when all we see is a negative ad about someone wearing a flag pin.

Everyone in the POLITICAL scene does not wear a flag pin but yet we question someone patriotism!

How many people on the blog wear a US flag pin? After we are all Americans we should all have one on right now!

Dusty what you show is your unbelieveable bias towards a new candidate of a different skin color and background!

If Americans companies step up to the plate and pay americans workers we not have any problem with legal immigration.

By Dusty

July 31, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

Bosch @9:40

You asked about the “middle of the road plan”. Perhaps you missed Jim Wooten’s fifth paragraph where he explains it exactly. I repeat it for you:

The immigration debate has long been based on false choices—either round them all up or let them stay. “Opponents of immigration claim there are only two ways to address illegal immigration: amnesty or mass deportation” noted U.S.Rep Lamar Smith, a Texas Republican.”But there is another and better option and that is to simply enforce current laws”.

Hope that helps. Enforcing laws is the middle road plan to do what is already legal.

By Bosch

July 31, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

Fix-It,

I think you forget that most of us are here because of immigrants. That’s been happening here now for about 400 years.

Bronco,

Do you know for certain that your neighbors with the junk cars are here illegally? Just curious.

Eva,

I think it’s a knee jerk reaction for many to see you and automatically think you are illegal.

Nice point about the other “illegals” - I have a friend who was here and was technically “illegal” for a while who is from Germany - tall, good looking, blue eyes, blond hair, looks like an underwear model - people fall all over themselves just to be around this person and claim just to know them. It always makes me laugh.

By CommunistAJC

July 31, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Common Sense, As I said earlier, libs will find that offensive. Just like every joke aimed at them.

By Eva

July 31, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this

Bold:Common Sence

Italic:If Americans companies step up to the plate and pay americans workers we not have any problem with legal immigration.

While this is all well and good, what about legal immigrants, green card holders, work permit holders, etc, who have followed the directives put in place by the INS? Surely they have a right to work for American companies also?

By Dusty

July 31, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this