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If GOP loses on corruption, so be it.
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Look, if Republicans sink further from control of the U.S. Senate, or if the Democrats gain a filibuster-proof majority, because a corrupt GOP senator is indicted, so be it. No problem here. None whatsoever.
Up front, let me quickly note that Alaska’s Ted Stevens, the longest-serving Republican senator, has only been indicted, accused on seven counts of failing to disclose hundreds of thousands of dollars in home-renovation services over a six-year period from a company in an oil-related business. He’s up for re-election this year and since that election is just over three months away, he’ll not have the chance to clear his name before Alaskans vote. He’s being challenged by Mark Begich, the Democratic mayor of Anchorage.
Indictments, as we all know, aren’t proof of criminality. U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas was indicted in 1993 for alleged official misconduct. Less than five months later a judge order her acquittal. The district attorney refused to present his case.
Stevens is not one of my favorites among Republicans in the Senate. He’s a pork-barreler most recently famous for the Road to Nowhere.
If Republicans lose Stevens and control because he has, in fact, been taking gifts and services from individuals with an interest in influencing government to gain competitive advantage, I’ll cheerfully take exile to the wilderness.
Conservativism never meant fleecing taxpayers in some other state to get goodies for mine. It never meant trading pork for votes or pork for votes. Public service, whether as a conservative, moderate or liberal, never meant getting rich, or living rich, in public office.
I have no problem with taking campaign contributions in any sum from individuals, interest groups and industries seeking to influence government policies, so long as they’re promptly and fully disclosed. I’d take contributions from interest groups supporting school vouchers, for example, because on that issue, I can’t be bought. I’m already there. Individuals should give campaign contributions to those in public office who are best able to advance the policies they advocate. Just disclose, promptly and fully.
When there’s a quid pro quo, where an individual company or contributing individuals, get something of monetary value in return, alarm bells go off. But that’s not necessarily evidence of corruption. I support opening more areas to off-shore drilling, for example. Oil companies will profit from that and may give me campaign contributions. But unless, as a public official, I’ve done something that specifically designates a public resource to a particular beneficiary, there’s no offense.
The Stevens indictment is not about campaign contributions, of course. If he took any of the services without paying, even if it’s not possible to prove a specific quid pro quo involving his public office, Stevens should be bunking with Bill Campbell.




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By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this
Recent radioactive leaks in France provide a cautionary tale for America’s “nuclear renaissance
HOW WE ALMOST BLEW UP OHIO…Nuclear regulators blame plant employees for a near miss at Davis-Besse power station. Maybe it’s the regulators we should be worried about.
An Indicted (GOP) Senator, a Disgraced (GOP-run) Justice Department, a Gagged (GOP-managed) EPA—Just Another Day in D.C.
McCainerly Hillbillies Cartoon by Mark Fiore | July 29, 2008
Forget the Surge — Violence Is Down in Iraq Because Ethnic Cleansing Was Brutally Effective Juan Cole, JuanCole.com War on Iraq: The bloodbath in Baghdad has resulted in fewer ethnically mixed neighborhoods, leading to the recent drop in violence.
“Terrorists should be perceived and described as criminals, not holy warriors, and our analysis suggests there is no battlefield solution to terrorism. The United States has the necessary instruments to defeat al-Qaida, it just needs to shift its strategy.”
Another McCain Involved In Bank Collapse?
Imagine that: “[W]hen you increase the number of teenagers eligible to receive family planning services through Medicaid you get fewer teen pregnancies.”
Something about the Knoxville killings touched me, though. I saw the picture of the guy who did the killing “so ordinary” said the neighbours, “he seemed like a nice man” and I couldn’t but agree. But what touched me, more, was this - a man named Greg McKendry. McKendry’s dead now, and he’s dead because of this: he deliberately shielded others from a shotgun blast. You don’t survive that, and he had to know it. So he knew what he was doing, and he made a decision—to put the lives of others above his own. Then the congregants tackled the shooter, took him down, and held him for police. Love of others, sacrifice for others, and calm collective action to deal with a threat. They say that Unitarians are the most liberal church around. I don’t know if that’s true, but in the face of tragedy, Unitarians certainly showed what liberalism should be.
By BFKaJ
July 30, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I guessed right on the topic.
Political Ethics 101, final examination. Two hypothetical cases, reflecting the tenor of the times. One is indicted, and the other is nominated for president. Identify the Senator in each case, and discuss the comparative ethics involved.
(1) Senator “O” sought to buy a house listed @ $2 million. He was able to purchase it for $1.65 million when his friend, the influence-buyer who is a real estate developer, agreed to purchased an adjacent lot for $600,000. The vacant lot was only one-quarter the size of the house lot, and is too small and too narrow for development otherwise. The two purchase transactions closed on the same day.
(2) Senator “S” owned a home. The influence-buyer, who is a real estate developer, improved the value of the Senator’s home by providing free labor worth approximately $150,000. The Senator reported the value of the free labor as only $130,000.
By AJC/DNC Management
July 30, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this
“Change” that you can count on:
Mass. closer to letting out-of-state gays wed- “Sometimes what you hope and pray for actually happens, which is kind of overwhelming,” Michael Thorne, 55, of Cape Elizabeth, Maine, said after telling his 6-year-old son his parents could soon get married. Thorne and his partner of 25 years, James Theberge, have an Aug. 18 wedding planned in Provincetown.-Urinal/ SickoTimes
So the kid was a butt baby?
Freaks.
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Aahhh, yes, “Paul Revere” rides again:
Iraqis begin Diyala offensive- Military officers, both Iraqi and American, said that insurgents had probably fled the area after news media reports that the sweep was due to begin soon.-Urinal/PMS
“Thee surge is coming, thee surge is coming!”
Another chapter in the pinko folklore, complete with a happy cut and run ending.
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Aahhh, yes, the Doom and Gloom understands biology:
U.S. official: Iraqis needing clean water –Urinal/DNC
You reckon?
What, are we taking summer school courses?
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Wanna know why I don’t pay much mind to polls?:
Consider that mid-June poll by Newsweek that thrilled Democrats by showing Obama with a whopping 15-point lead. Newsweek’s sample of registered voters showed only 23 percent identified themselves as Republican compared to 38 percent who said they were Democrat, a skew unmatched by other polls.
What happens if the polls should shift the other way? What fate befalls the frontrunner who falls behind? Just ask that formerly “inevitable” nominee, Bruno Clinton.
How many “inevitable” candidates can the dimwitocrats have in one election?
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Thee misconceptions:
Now that the conservatives have “smashed the welfare state,” why is it that spending on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid is at record levels for each program, the highest in history, with the three programs now slated to lead over the next 35 years to the Federal government doubling in size relative to the economy (GDP)? Having rolled back the War on Poverty, why are we still spending close to $700 billion each year on means-tested welfare programs, more than we spend on national defense? Add up Federal, state and local spending on education, and you will find that total is higher than spending on national defense as well, at record levels, higher than ever.
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We are gleefully told of a poll, for instance, in which Obama was the presidential choice of 52% of a whopping 6,256 Europeans and Russians; as if that should somehow matter to a people whose ancestors fled the intrigue and “foreign entanglements” of Europe to build a nation where success was to be the reward for hard work and not simply bestowed by entitlement.
By Ray
July 30, 2008 8:40 AM | Link to this
Has “cold cash Jefferson” been indicted yet?
By Mid-South Philosopher
July 30, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this
Good morning, Jim, and “Hello!”
It has been a while since I have been on, but, alas, some of us have to work.
Word comes that Georgia’s State Budget has the potential for a 2 billion dollar shortfall this year because of a decline in state tax collections. Hard to believe given this great and robust “Bush” economy!
Rumors are that the Governor will summon the General Assembly into special session to deal with this economic crisis. First line of attack, of course, will be to rescind teacher and state employee pay raises. Next, the august body will repeal the meager tax reductions enacted in the last session. It is always the teachers, state employees, and the common citizens that need the Vaseline after the General Assembly does it work.
If things are as bad as Silly Sonny and the rest of those toilet heads are asserting, let them lead by example and take a 35% pay cut! That would demonstrate the seriousness of the situation and make the shaft a lot more palatable for the rest of us.
Chances of it happening?…about as good as those of Barack Obama being honored as Outstanding Young Man of the Year by the Cobb County Republican Party!
It is a great life, if you don’t weaken.
By Ga Values
July 30, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Since you don’t have a problem with Congressmen taking contributions from special interest groups that you write legislation, why doesn’t the AJC publish a list of the donors to Saxby’s $4,000,000.00 war chest & what they got in return??
By BFKaJ
July 30, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Dear Mrs. Godzilla @ 8:24, forgive my word quibbling, but you surely did not mean “near miss.” Surely it actually did miss, otherwise Ohio would be aglow?
By Dusty
July 30, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this
Hello Ya’ll, Well I am back from a little reprieve yesterday!! After seeing that some lucky person was visited by the Lord through a bag of Cheetos, I just had to try and find my very own Cheeto Jesus. After visiting my nearest Kroger, Publix and Food Lion and buying up all the Cheetos available, I proceeded to open and consume all the non-holy cheese treats I found. I was fortune enough to come across a Baby Jesus look alike in my 25th bag of Cheeto Puffs and a Crucified Jesus Cheeto Crunchy in just the 12th bag of that variety! I just do love my Cheetos. Now I can display my 2 Cheeto Jesus’ with my Pancake Jesus, my Virgin Mary Grilled Cheese, and my Cornflake Jesus. Over all I had a wonderful day combining my 2 biggest loves, food and Jesus. Now if only I could come across a Potato Bush my life could end tomorrow and I would feel complete. And just think of how I have single handedly stimulated the economy buying up all those Cheese Snacks. The bestest, greatest President ever, Dubya, would be so proud of his Dusty for shopping to help with my war effort. Defeat Al Qaeda, spend at the mall and grocery store!
I see those depraved French are at it again. What president’s wife would pose nude? Now I do admit to a bit of a penchant for naughtiness. Once Mr. Dusty had me pose in a bikini surrounded by different cuts of pork. I know it was wrong, but I like to keep him interested. It is good for the sake of the marriage.
Well got to toodloo for awhile, my swiffer is armed and ready for action. I plan to dust all morning and then hit the stores again. I intend to do my part to defeat Al Qaeda.
By Goldie
July 30, 2008 8:51 AM | Link to this
Another Repug may be heading off to the pokey, all because of selfishness and greed… how typical. Ted Stevens used to be famous for his “Bridge to Nowhere”, but he could become even more famous if he should share a Federal prison cell with the likes of Duke Cunningham or Jack Abramoff.
By Ray
July 30, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this
Come on, people, these are politicians, whether lib or repub makes no difference. All have war chests, all are tax excempt benefits to the retiring politician and all have strings attached to the money. This is legalized bribery, no matter what your party. Everyone does it, it stinks and should not be done but there are a lot of things that these yahoos do that are not ethical or correct. Quit making it a partisan issue.
By Jim Wooten
July 30, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
Welcome back, Mid-South. We’ve missed your contributions. Dang making a living if it takes you from your important work here on this blog.
By BFKaJ
July 30, 2008 9:01 AM | Link to this
Dear Mrs. Godzilla @ 8:24, “Terrorists should be perceived and described as criminals, not holy warriors, and our analysis suggests there is no battlefield solution to terrorism. The United States has the necessary instruments to defeat al-Qaida, it just needs to shift its strategy.” You will be amused by this knee-slapper, a case where the terrorist was treated, not as a terrorist but as a criminal, with habeas corpus rights and all. “From Gitmo to Miranda, with Love: How the American left feted and freed a Guantanamo inmate who then killed in Iraq. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121737320982594975.html?mod=djemEditorialPage
By Peter
July 30, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this
Good Morning to Jim today……finally a topic with teeth, and finally one I can agree with Jim on.
Please let’s start at the top Jim, the current White House has been the leader of all the Republican Corruption.
Let’s look at the no bid contracts in Iraq, and the cost plus contracts as well…….
Watch the movie “Iraq for Sale”.
What we all will find is the current administration will be guilty of wasting BILLIONS of American Tax Payers money……..along with the shoddy accounting of the money spend in Iraq and with Pakistan.
Jim who we are fighting in Afghanistan……would we be there if Bin Laden was caught ?
The corruption in Washington just starts with Alaska’s Ted Stevens, but to find the real criminals…….. the White House is the place to start !
By BFKaJ
July 30, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this
Dear Goldie @ 8:51, how do you feel about the unindicted Senator in my 8:25 post?
By Jim's a Cherry Picker
July 30, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
Hi Jim,
First off, I’m amazed that you broached the subject.
That said, it’s telling how you are so quick to jump to conclusions regarding anyone on the other side of the aisle, but are willing to extend every benefit to those you like.
If I recall, the Right was up in arms over Asian donations to Clinton/Gore … donations that now seem quaint by comparison to what’s been occurring lately.
Our government is being run by the people who can afford to pay the politicians. It’s that simple.
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
BFKaJ
A very,very sad but true story. And not in the least amusing.
However, I for one am unwilling to give up on the ideals of Democracy because it is not perfect? Are you?
Perhaps this “How the American left feted and freed a Guantanamo inmate who then killed in Iraq” could be restated as “How America stood by the principles the nation was founded on even when it hurt”.
By zeke
July 30, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
Stevens may be guilty, but, more important is the fact that posing as a republican is criminal when he is actually a liberal democrat! Same for Hagel, Warner, Dukakus and the others that run as republicans just so they can get elected! And those idiot dems in congress are complete moronic fools! All they can do is to continuosly try to “get Bush” because he defeated their fair haired boy. That unintelligent moron from Tennessee!! Bush had every legal right to replace “all” of the federal prosecutors, which infact, Clinton did! Where is the investigation of that? Political hacks! May there never be another demogog President, and, may congress become 70% CONSERVATIVE!!!
By lava
July 30, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
has only been indicted,,pityful,u got nothing intelligent to say to support ur holier than thou attitudes.Even ur friend BFKaJ is reduced to presenting imaginary scenarios without talking substance about this particular Republican’s situation. **PATHETIC IDIOTS,MASQUARADING AS HOLY,CONSERVATIVE AND MORALLY RIGHT.HYPOCRITICAL THIEVES….
By getalife
July 30, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
They have one gop on tape telling the CEO of the oil company in Alaska, “I will sell my soul to the devil”.
That sums up the gop.
But both parties are corrupt. Nothing will change until they make the legal bribery system of lobbying illegal.
Business as usual until that happens.
By TW
July 30, 2008 9:28 AM | Link to this
Really, congratulations are in order. The GOP has shown significant improvement. They’ve gone from ‘Foley free love’ to ‘soliciting homo sex wide stance’ to just a regular old indictment for lying.
yee-ha
Because a loser is a loser.
Next thing ya know, the GOP will put forth a candidate who will actually boast about getting shot down, captured, and then making statements against our country…wait…
By Get Real
July 30, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
First of all Wooten, it’s ‘BRIDGE’ to know where. Don’t journalists get all the facts prior to writing their article? Or is it all opinion like yours? Hope this was edited before being presented to the masses.
Your entire post today is one big contradiction. You say, “Public service, whether as a conservative, moderate or liberal, never meant getting rich, or living rich, in public office.” Well what kind of ‘gifts’ do you think special interests give to politicians? And what lobbyists actually give gifts and expect nothing in return?
Another paragraph that didn’t surprise me. “I have no problem with taking campaign contributions in any sum from individuals, interest groups and industries seeking to influence government policies, so long as they’re promptly and fully disclosed. I’d take contributions from interest groups supporting school vouchers, for example, because on that issue, I can’t be bought. I’m already there. Individuals should give campaign contributions to those in public office who are best able to advance the policies they advocate. Just disclose, promptly and fully.” I’m sorry but I don’t live in la-la land like you Republicans that see no problem with this, but ‘those in public office’ are there to represent their constituents. Not to advance the agenda of special interests. Even if they agreed with the policy of some lobbyist, if it offers no benefit to the people they’re supposed to represent (Bridge to Nowhere as a good example) it shouldn’t move forward.
Your view on this couldn’t be more ‘out of the mainstream’, but what could one expect from a conservative. They’ve been living by Wooten’s creed for 7 1/2 years. No problem with lobbyists buying influence in our branches of government.
How about you tell Sonny and his crew to take a pay cut themselves, instead of keeping teachers from getting raises. Or maybe rescind the sweet deals offered to special interest groups, that provided ‘gifts’ to the State Assembly for nothing whatesoever. Yeah right.
By Ray
July 30, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
The dems don’t give up when it comes to oneupsmanship, do they. They are raising hell about selecting judges based on political affiliation and about the firing of judges by someone with a conservative bent. Ask Robert Bork about selecting a judge on the basis of political philosophy. The libs want more Ginsburgs and the repubs want more Alitos and these week long marathons in Congress in selecting these judges prove that ideology is the main reason that a judge is selected. But it does make good fodder just prior to an election.
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
BFKaJ
From Politifact:
No proof Rezko saved Obama money on home
It didn’t take long for the Republican Party to pounce after Antoin “Tony” Rezko, a prominent former fundraiser for Sen. Barack Obama, was convicted on June 4, 2008, on federal charges of fraud and money laundering as part of Illinois’ pay-to-play politics.
The very day of the conviction, the Republican National Committee crafted a news release titled, “Obama Must Answer Questions so the American People Can Decide.”
One of those questions: “Did Obama know that Tony Rezko was saving him $300,000 on the purchase of his home?”
By asking if Obama knew about it, the question presumes the claim is true: that Rezko did, in fact, save Obama $300,000 on the purchase of his home.
Now it’s true that Obama paid $300,000 less than the asking price for a century-old mansion that he and his wife, Michelle, purchased from a Chicago doctor in 2005 for $1.65-million.
And on the same day the Obamas closed on their house, Rezko’s wife, Rita Rezko, bought a vacant lot next door from the same seller for $625,000, the full asking price. Obama said it was his understanding that there was another offer besides the Rezkos’ for the vacant lot at or near the asking price, thereby setting the market.
The Obama campaign has posted an e-mail from the seller, Frederic Wondisford, confirming that Obama’s offer on the house was the best one. In the letter, the seller says he rejected two lower offers from the Obamas before the two sides finally settled at $1.65-million.
The seller also confirmed that he did not offer or give the Obamas a discount on the house price on the basis of the price offered and accepted on the adjacent vacant lot purchased by Rezko’s wife.
Lastly, Wondisford confirmed that it was he who insisted the closing for the two properties be completed on the same day.
Donna Schwan, with MetroPro Realty, which listed both the house and the vacant lot, recalled that there were several offers on both the house and the lot, though she could not remember the amount of those other offers and said she has since discarded the offer sheets.
“The most important thing to the sellers was to close on the same day,” Schwan said, as they did not want one of the properties to sit unsold, alone.
The sellers also required the buyers to put off the closing until June 15, after their children had gotten out of school.
The fact that the Rezkos agreed to purchase the vacant lot on that date in mid June, “could have been to their (the Obamas’) advantage, absolutely,” Schwan said.
“Each was contingent on the other selling,” she said.
“Whoever was willing to close on that date, if they made a reasonable offer, that’s who they went with,” Schwan said.
One could certainly argue that the Rezkos’ purchase, and their flexibility on the closing date, helped assure that the Obamas’ offer was accepted. The real estate agent made clear that getting the two properties sold at the same time was a priority for the seller.
But that’s still a long way from saying the Rezkos saved the Obamas $300,000. The GOP offers no proof that the price paid by the Obamas was anything other than a matter of negotiation, or that the Obamas would have had to pay $300,000 more if not for the Rezkos’ purchase. In fact, the seller specifically confirmed that the Obamas’ offer of $1.65-million was the best offer he received on the house. Further, the seller confirmed that he did not offer the Obamas a discount on the price of the house “on the basis of or in relation to the price offered and accepted on the lot.”
Having the Rezkos as flexible buyers on the vacant lot might have helped the Obamas get the house they had been trying to buy, but there’s just nothing to support the GOP claim that the Rezkos saved the Obamas $300,000. We say False.
Please stick with the smear du jour… it’s soooo much effort to go back and get the ones that were debunked months ago!
By Paul
July 30, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla 8:24
“Forget the Surge” restated is “the surge didn’t work. Violence is down because there’s hardly anybody left to kill.”
Do you realize how silly such arguments appear to nonideologues?
The tribute to the congregant in Knoxville who sacrificed his life to save others was touching – until it was tied into a partisan “this shows what liberals do” angle. Unitarians are “liberal” in theology compared to many Christian denominations. But religious “liberalism” does not necessarily translate to political “liberalism” particularly given many here on the “Left” condemn any Christian practitioner, no matter how “liberal” the doctrine or practices.
BTW – don’t any of your sites have reference to:
Scott McClellan apologizing to Bill O’Reilly for agreeing with Chris Mathews that he received White House Talking Points?
I was also kinda hoping we’d get a philosophical exposition regarding Spkr Pelosi’s reason for opposing offshore drilling: because she’s “trying to save the planet.”
Really! You can’t make this stuff up –
Goldie, Mr. Wooten, et al
My understanding is Sen Stevens was indicted, not for accepting the items, but for lying about it? So we have another case where an act nearly everyone would say was “wrong” is not prosecutable, but the hanging offense is lying about it.
As to the sentence “ But unless, as a public official, I’ve done something that specifically designates a public resource to a particular beneficiary, there’s no offense” – a couple months back Fox News had a special report about Congressman, Senators profiting from their positions. Started out with Rep Denny Hastert. Then went on to a Congressman from Ohio, I think, who passed an earmark for a particular contractor, who told the contractor to hire his relative’s company as a sub to perform the work. The Ethics Committee said “no foul, that’s okay according to our rules.”
By Fairness Doctrine
July 30, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
This neocon says throw Stevens in jail and toss the key. We can slam our own, which liberals can’t. But I came here to say something else:
By getalife “whiners” July 29, 2008 10:03 AM
“The shotgun-wielding suspect in Sunday’s mass shooting at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church was motivated by a hatred of “the liberal movement,” and he planned to shoot until police shot him, Knoxville Police Chief Sterling P. Owen IV said this morning.” “You are pathetic Andy.”
By AmVet July 29, 2008 3:46 PM
“Welcome to the “new” GOP.So this white southern scumbag “conservative” hated liberals and thought he’d just shoot up a Unitarian church. During a children’s play!!! It probably makes a couple of the regulars here smile. [snip] No, neither Coulter nor O’Reilly nor any of their sickening pals actually pulled the trigger, but they surely knew that their words would encourage their fellow far right wing nut jobs who could and would. These are the mullahs of the extremist American right, and the liberal-hating homicidal Adkisson is a suicide bomber of their own creation. Say what you want about the aggressive rhetoric of non neo-con bloggers and activists like me, but we don’t advocate violence. Though at times I must admit I would sure like to…”
I won a bet! I bet that some liberal blog wingnuts were going to blame that church murderer’s actions on neo-Con talk radio. That didn’t take long. In any event, the amount of hatred and resentment from the wingnut left both on this blog and on others such as Democratunderground.com and Daily Kos exposes just as much “Hate” speech that Coulter, O’Reilly, Rush, Hannity, etc. allegedly spew out. Even on this blog I’ve read comments from liberals who would like to “bash in heads” of conservatives and “beat some sense” into them.
Let’s look at the bigger picture here since mindless liberals can’t: tens of millions of people listen, read, and watch the aformentioned people and go on with their dailly lives. One person apparently took things out on his own failures, inclulding havnig “problems” with Chrstianity and running out of food stamps (a liberal idea mind you), and murdered people.
But we know what’s really going on here. The liberals are going to use this one instance to label any speech against liberals as hate speech and inciting violence. This is the only way that liberals can possibly shut down the voice of conservatives. What the aformentioned spew out is no more than what has been spewed out on Air America, Democratunderground.com, and Daily Kos. If the liberals want to go that route, then we can shut down ALL blogs and ALL radio and TV personalities. There will be no shortage of lawyers to take that on for a REAL fairness doctrine.
By Chicago
July 30, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Lobbyists don’t give gifts to public officials who already agree with their policies Wooten. They try to buy the influence of those that HAVEN’T bought into what their trying to do. You may slip this by some non-informed republican, but this entire piece is BS.
By @@
July 30, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
‘Ya know Jim, I wouldn’t want any one of those leftists posting yesterday to sit on my jury. The only thing that excites them more than an indictment against a Republican, is when a Republican or conservative dies. That propels them into a mosh pit where they party with all-out abandon.
You are guilty Jim, GUILTY I SAY……..
guilty of respecting the Rule of Law.
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
If the GOP loses then we will be a socialist country. Plain and simple. The idiotic wealth envy of liberals is now out in the open. Found this analysis on Barack Husseins plans for America. Code word for SOCIALISM. So everything our soldiers and country have fought for 200 years will go down the drain. Who do I blame? GOVERNMENT! The majority of people who vote democrat are uneducated.
http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=302137342405551
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
Barack Obama’s Stealth Socialism NVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY
During his NAACP speech earlier this month, Sen. Obama repeated the term at least four times. “I’ve been working my entire adult life to help build an America where economic justice is being served,” he said at the group’s 99th annual convention in Cincinnati.
And as president, “we’ll ensure that economic justice is served,” he asserted. “That’s what this election is about.” Obama never spelled out the meaning of the term, but he didn’t have to. His audience knew what he meant, judging from its thumping approval.
It’s the rest of the public that remains in the dark, which is why we’re launching this special educational series.
“Economic justice” simply means punishing the successful and redistributing their wealth by government fiat. It’s a euphemism for socialism.
In the past, such rhetoric was just that — rhetoric. But Obama’s positioning himself with alarming stealth to put that rhetoric into action on a scale not seen since the birth of the welfare state.
In his latest memoir he shares that he’d like to “recast” the welfare net that FDR and LBJ cast while rolling back what he derisively calls the “winner-take-all” market economy that Ronald Reagan reignited (with record gains in living standards for all).
Obama also talks about “restoring fairness to the economy,” code for soaking the “rich” — a segment of society he fails to understand that includes mom-and-pop businesses filing individual tax returns.
It’s clear from a close reading of his two books that he’s a firm believer in class envy. He assumes the economy is a fixed pie, whereby the successful only get rich at the expense of the poor.
Following this discredited Marxist model, he believes government must step in and redistribute pieces of the pie. That requires massive transfers of wealth through government taxing and spending, a return to the entitlement days of old.
Of course, Obama is too smart to try to smuggle such hoary collectivist garbage through the front door. He’s disguising the wealth transfers as “investments” — “to make America more competitive,” he says, or “that give us a fighting chance,” whatever that means.
Among his proposed “investments”:
• “Universal,” “guaranteed” health care.
• “Free” college tuition.
• “Universal national service” (a la Havana).
• “Universal 401(k)s” (in which the government would match contributions made by “low- and moderate-income families”).
• “Free” job training (even for criminals).
• “Wage insurance” (to supplement dislocated union workers’ old income levels).
• “Free” child care and “universal” preschool.
• More subsidized public housing.
• A fatter earned income tax credit for “working poor.”
• And even a Global Poverty Act that amounts to a Marshall Plan for the Third World, first and foremost Africa.
His new New Deal also guarantees a “living wage,” with a $10 minimum wage indexed to inflation; and “fair trade” and “fair labor practices,” with breaks for “patriot employers” who cow-tow to unions, and sticks for “nonpatriot” companies that don’t.
That’s just for starters — first-term stuff.
Obama doesn’t stop with socialized health care. He wants to socialize your entire human resources department — from payrolls to pensions. His social-microengineering even extends to mandating all employers provide seven paid sick days per year to salary and hourly workers alike.
You can see why Obama was ranked, hands-down, the most liberal member of the Senate by the National Journal. Some, including colleague and presidential challenger John McCain, think he’s the most liberal member in Congress.
But could he really be “more left,” as McCain recently remarked, than self-described socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (for whom Obama has openly campaigned, even making a special trip to Vermont to rally voters)?
Obama’s voting record, going back to his days in the Illinois statehouse, says yes. His career path — and those who guided it — leads to the same unsettling conclusion.
The seeds of his far-left ideology were planted in his formative years as a teenager in Hawaii — and they were far more radical than any biography or profile in the media has portrayed.
A careful reading of Obama’s first memoir, “Dreams From My Father,” reveals that his childhood mentor up to age 18 — a man he cryptically refers to as “Frank” — was none other than the late communist Frank Marshall Davis, who fled Chicago after the FBI and Congress opened investigations into his “subversive,” “un-American activities.”
As Obama was preparing to head off to college, he sat at Davis’ feet in his Waikiki bungalow for nightly bull sessions. Davis plied his impressionable guest with liberal doses of whiskey and advice, including: Never trust the white establishment.
“They’ll train you so good,” he said, “you’ll start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that sh**.”
After college, where he palled around with Marxist professors and took in socialist conferences “for inspiration,” Obama followed in Davis’ footsteps, becoming a “community organizer” in Chicago.
His boss there was Gerald Kellman, whose identity Obama also tries to hide in his book. Turns out Kellman’s a disciple of the late Saul “The Red” Alinsky, a hard-boiled Chicago socialist who wrote the “Rules for Radicals” and agitated for social revolution in America.
The Chicago-based Woods Fund provided Kellman with his original $25,000 to hire Obama. In turn, Obama would later serve on the Woods board with terrorist Bill Ayers of the Weather Underground. Ayers was one of Obama’s early political supporters.
After three years agitating with marginal success for more welfare programs in South Side Chicago, Obama decided he would need to study law to “bring about real change” — on a large scale.
While at Harvard Law School, he still found time to hone his organizing skills. For example, he spent eight days in Los Angeles taking a national training course taught by Alinsky’s Industrial Areas Foundation. With his newly minted law degree, he returned to Chicago to reapply — as well as teach — Alinsky’s “agitation” tactics.
(A video-streamed bio on Obama’s Web site includes a photo of him teaching in a University of Chicago classroom. If you freeze the frame and look closely at the blackboard Obama is writing on, you can make out the words “Power Analysis” and “Relationships Built on Self Interest” — terms right out of Alinsky’s rule book.)
Amid all this, Obama reunited with his late father’s communist tribe in Kenya, the Luo, during trips to Africa.
As a Nairobi bureaucrat, Barack Hussein Obama Sr., a Harvard-educated economist, grew to challenge the ruling pro-Western government for not being socialist enough. In an eight-page scholarly paper published in 1965, he argued for eliminating private farming and nationalizing businesses “owned by Asians and Europeans.”
His ideas for communist-style expropriation didn’t stop there. He also proposed massive taxes on the rich to “redistribute our economic gains to the benefit of all.”
“Theoretically, there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100% of income so long as the people get benefits from the government commensurate with their income which is taxed,” Obama Sr. wrote. “I do not see why the government cannot tax those who have more and syphon some of these revenues into savings which can be utilized in investment for future development.”
Taxes and “investment” … the fruit truly does not fall far from the vine.
(Voters might also be interested to know that Obama, the supposed straight shooter, does not once mention his father’s communist leanings in an entire book dedicated to his memory.)
In Kenya’s recent civil unrest, Obama privately phoned the leader of the opposition Luo tribe, Raila Odinga, to voice his support. Odinga is so committed to communism he named his oldest son after Fidel Castro.
With his African identity sewn up, Obama returned to Chicago and fell under the spell of an Afrocentric pastor. It was a natural attraction. The Rev. Jeremiah Wright preaches a Marxist version of Christianity called “black liberation theology” and has supported the communists in Cuba, Nicaragua and elsewhere.
Obama joined Wright’s militant church, pledging allegiance to a system of “black values” that demonizes white “middle classness” and other mainstream pursuits.
(Obama in his first book, published in 1995, calls such values “sensible.” There’s no mention of them in his new book.)
With the large church behind him, Obama decided to run for political office, where he could organize for “change” more effectively. “As an elected official,” he said, “I could bring church and community leaders together easier than I could as a community organizer or lawyer.”
He could also exercise real, top-down power, the kind that grass-roots activists lack. Alinsky would be proud.
Throughout his career, Obama has worked closely with a network of stone-cold socialists and full-blown communists striving for “economic justice.”
He’s been traveling in an orbit of collectivism that runs from Nairobi to Honolulu, and on through Chicago to Washington.
Yet a recent AP poll found that only 6% of Americans would describe Obama as “liberal,” let alone socialist.
Public opinion polls usually reflect media opinion, and the media by and large have portrayed Obama as a moderate “outsider” (the No. 1 term survey respondents associate him with) who will bring a “breath of fresh air” to Washington.
The few who have drilled down on his radical roots have tended to downplay or pooh-pooh them. Even skeptics have failed to connect the dots for fear of being called the dreaded “r” word.
But too much is at stake in this election to continue mincing words.
Both a historic banking crisis and 1970s-style stagflation loom over the economy. Democrats, who already control Congress, now threaten to filibuster-proof the Senate in what could be a watershed election for them — at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue.
A perfect storm of statism is forming, and our economic freedoms are at serious risk.
Those who care less about looking politically correct than preserving the free-market individualism that’s made this country great have to start calling things by their proper name to avert long-term disaster.
By Paul
July 30, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
Peter 9:03
No-bid contracts and cost-plus contracts are governed by law. They weren’t an invention of the Bush administration.
You may want to Google “Federal Acquisition Regulations” to see how the Fed agencies implement the law.
If they are a huge problem, Congress has had ample time to hold hearings and change the law. They haven’t. If it is a problem the Democratic leadership obviously sees it as minor compared to the advantages of keeping the current system and using it as a political complaining point.
By @@
July 30, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this
“How America stood by the principles the nation was founded on even when it hurt”.
those who would protect Mrs. Godzilla from an enemy who is committed to destroying those principles which she holds so dear.
By Common Sense
July 30, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
Good Morning everybody,
Real estate transaction: What a willing seller is willing to sell the property at a price the willing borrower is willing to pay!
I will take a real estate at $100,000,$200,000 or any number if a seller is offering.
Rumor has it Jim Wooten just purchased a 2nd home in Chicago on the same street that Mr. Obama lives on!
Now how about that!
On a serious note politics is set-up to receive all the goodies from big business that is why they vote for big businesses who actually run this country.
I am going to get my career started in politics and run as a conservative liberal that way I can get everyone to vote for me!
By AJC/DNC Management
July 30, 2008 9:51 AM | Link to this
Sen. Barack Obama, speaking to a gathering of minority journalists yesterday, stopped short of endorsing an official U.S. apology to American Indians but said the country should acknowledge its history of poor treatment of certain ethnic groups.
“There’s no doubt that when it comes to our treatment of Native Americans as well as other persons of color in this country, we’ve got some very sad and difficult things to account for,” Obama told hundreds of attendees of UNITY ‘08, a convention of four minority journalism associations.
So do the Germans but I didn’t see Lord High Dimwit scolding them last week.
Nope, this punk does just like every other spineless wonder liberal, he takes on the freest, fairest and most giving country in the World, the America that these POS hate so much.
KMA, Obama, you yellow koward.
By Paul
July 30, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
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Good morning. Someone once asked me what frightens me. My answer was “the idea of being tried by a jury of my peers.” Y’know that 25 percent who’ll believe anything? They’re on juries. The ideas, beliefs and surety of knowledge displayed by some on blogs? The authors are on juries. The inability of some to put aside personal preconceptions and follow an argument to its conclusion? They’re on juries. Scary -
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 9:55 AM | Link to this
Paul
““Forget the Surge” restated is “the surge didn’t work. Violence is down because there’s hardly anybody left to kill.” Do you realize how silly such arguments appear to nonideologues?”
No, I don’t think anybody thinks ethnic cleansing is silly. You chuckling about it now are you?
I also think your restatement is inaccurate - the surge did work - some of it - some didn’t - remember “benchmarks”?
Did the surge work is not a yes or no question. For the answer to be accurate it must be quantified.
ALSO
I completely disagree with this:
“But religious “liberalism” does not necessarily translate to political “liberalism” particularly given many here on the “Left” condemn any Christian practitioner, no matter how “liberal” the doctrine or practices.”
There are a few who condemn “Christians” but many who condemn “fake christians”. (Famous fake christian calls for assasination of……)
Of course my sights have the BOR Scotty dust up…..not only did Scott say he was sorry to BOR (he never specifically named BOR) he also stood by his comments…
Oh, and saving the planet ….well ….that is just too hilarious! Heaven forbid we try that.
Excuse me for a few minutes while I run outside and poor some half filled paint cans out somewhere so they can seep into the water table! What a laugh riot!
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
Report: Troop shortages in Afghanistan linked to Taliban comeback.
In a sobering speech on the Senate floor, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) formally announced the request for a Department of Justice investigation into the potential criminal conduct of EPA Administrator Stephen Johnson, whom he called “a man after Spiro Agnew’s own heart.” Whitehouse listed five charges of “putting the interests of corporate polluters before science and the law” in ozone, lead, soot, tailpipe emissions, and global warming pollution; and four charges of degrading “the procedures and institutional safeguards that sustain the agency;” before discussing “his apparent dishonesty in testimony before Congress”
*Many voters are wondering whether a McCain presidency would be an extension of Mr. Bush’s two disastrous terms. If the way Mr. McCain is running his campaign these days is an indication, Americans don’t have to wait until next January for the answer to that one. *
Watch for the Steal…..Will GOP Election Theft Machine Do It Again in 2008? With record low approval ratings for the Bush/Cheney regime and the albatross of an unpopular war hanging from the GOP’s neck, do you think that a Democratic presidential candidate will win the White House, get us out of Iraq, and end our long national nightmare? Think again - the mighty election theft machine Karl Rove used to steal the US presidency in 2000 and 2004 may be under attack, but it is still in place for the upcoming 2008 election.
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla, You are opposed to just about everything. From drilling for our own oil to nuclear power. Can you please give us a solution? I mean since you are an engineer and know all about alternative solutions. Your scare tactic of using a “near-miss” is pretty desperate. There is only so much of high gas prices and energy prices we can all take. But then again, libs are nothing but communists.
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla, Liberal Christian? Uh, Christ was not a liberal. Sorry to break your heart, or lack of one. Don’t remember Christ teaching gay marriage, abortion rights and communism. By the way, God is the only one who can save the planet. We can not put a dent in to the Earth. Go sell ALGore somewhere else.
By Dusty
July 30, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
The ID thief is up early this morning. I wonder who spends time on such tripe. Anyway, I just got here. ID THIEF @ 8:50. Wish I had a better grade of thief. This one is so disgracefully ignorant.But one can’t choose the fool for folly on a blog. Not Wooten’s anyway.
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
Duh,
I can no more provide the answer than you can.
I am happily however willing to admit that there are men and women wiser than I who can do just that!
By Abomi Nation
July 30, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
Jim would you take a campaign contribution from an energy company?
Whats it going to take for you to write about the Cobb Energy theft of Cobb EMC? Does someone involved have to be named Pam Stevenson in order to get you to write about this rip-off? Maybe they need to be black. Or maybe they can only be from Atlanta. Surely you can write about corruption in your own back yard. Has Cobb Energy remodeled your house? Do you own stock in Cobb Energy?
Cobb Energy, a for-profit affiliate of Marietta-based electric co-op Cobb EMC, has lost millions but paid generous dividends and benefits to management, board members and other insiders, according to experts hired by customers suing the companies.
Cobb Energy paid out $5.1 million in dividends from 1998 through 2006 and lost $7.4 million in that period, according to the experts’ analyses, contained in affidavits filed in court Wednesday.
By Mr. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
MrsGodzilla, no proof does not mean that there was no crime committed. Are you that dumb that you think any politician is “clean”. How sad is that? I bet when Obama becomes president that the price of cocaine drops 50%, good for him!
By getalife
July 30, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Corruption and lobbying is an opportunity for a real movement by the so called “progressives” united with the wingnuts to demand making lobbying illegal and end corruption.
They should contact the reps like we the people and donate to their campaign like us. No million dollar fundraisers or bundling. A billion dollar Presidential campaign is ridiculous and insane thinking there will change until the corruption is changed.
Unfortunately, the hatred and divisions of both sides is so strong, Americans would rather have business as usual than to actually change a broken government.
By Drew
July 30, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
Seems there are still a handful of folks here that really ought to have their own damned blog somewhere, but don’t want to do the work setting it up. Leeches.
Yawn.
By Mr. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
MrsGodzilla, no proof does not mean that there was no crime committed. Are you that dumb that you think any politician is “clean”. How sad is that? I bet when Obama becomes president that the price of cocaine drops 50%, good for him!
By Mike Hussein Smith
July 30, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
Jim, you sound so hopeful with your holow phrase “if the Republicans lose control.” They already have lost control. Stephens is like the old kingfish, just icing on the cake. Abomi Nation, you’ve got a great point there, blogging about Cobb Engery. I live in Decatur, but right now that surely isthe hottest game in town that the newspaper will cover. But ol’ Jim has some deep roots in Cobb and some old friends. The Stephens topic is like the old Afghanistan policy at the New York Times: Your ability to wrote the truth grew the farther away from Times Square you were.
By Paul
July 30, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla 9:55
First Goldie and now you! Who are you and what have you done with Mrs. Godzilla!
I enjoyed your response about nonsingularities and qualified answers. Many opponents of the Bush administration refuse to make such an allowance - as much as anything, I think, because of not wanting to credit any good to Pres Bush. That’s what I mean about ideology clouding a view of a situation.
Never meant to imply ethnic cleansing was silly. I thought rather silly the reading I portrayed of “there aren’t many people left to kill. So killing is reduced over where it was several months ago. Less targets = less killing. Surge? What surge?” Just an over-the-top response to what I saw (the source) as an over the top argument.
Regarding Unitarians: I’d venture an hypothesis that Unitarians are more socially or politically “liberal” than evangelicals or fundamentalists, but I know of no studies to back it up. But my point was more along the lines of mainstream Christians. The other point about those who reject anything Christian was directed at other bloggers who I anticipated would use that argument as another launching pad against anything Christian - while using a Christian group to make their point.
While I’m a bit reluctant to label members of a group as “fake” - it’s pretty clear there are cynical exploiters out there. Money and power, Mrs. Godzilla - much of it always gets back to money and power.
I think McClellan got caught up in one of those rapid-fire interviews Chris Mathews is famous for. Mathews likes to ask a question then follow with “isn’t that right?” McClellan got suckered in - CM mentioned Hannity and O’Reilly; McClellan agreed. And he did apologize for linking BOR to White House talking points, but hHe did stand by his comments that there were some in the media who were sympathetic and used the ‘points’.
I understand there’s a product available at hardware stores you can pour into paint cans that turns the old paint solid so it can be disposed of in an environmentally friendly way.
By Ga Values
July 30, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
Here’s a little of what special interest money has bought::::::::http://www.buckleyforsenate.com/saxbysscandaloussubsidies.asp
By Peter
July 30, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this
Ok Paul……
“By Paul
July 30, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
Peter 9:03
No-bid contracts and cost-plus contracts are governed by law. They weren’t an invention of the Bush administration.”
The WAR in Iraq was the “Invention of the Republicans in the White House,” and then they took total advantage of the opportunity to Bilk America !
Faulty Intelligence was the Excuse to do it !
No matter what you or anyone says……..
Republican Leadership = Zero Financial Responsibility !
By Bud Wiser
July 30, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
Mrs Godzilla, or whatever your name is, everybody, and I mean everybody skims right over your moronic 3rd grade cut and paste crap from the DNC, who no doubt underpays you for your semi-useless skills, except maybe the govt, whose time you are probably wasting in some taxpayer paid for cubicle even as we speak.
You need to get a life, or a brain implant, or something.
It is morons like you that will vote for Hussein in the Fall, hoping he will provide greater handouts to do-nothings like yourself. It is this class and wealth envy exploited by the Dimmokrauts that forms and shapes the non-thinkers like yourself, becoming your puppet master because you have not the intellect to speak for yourself. Your cut and paste crap proves my very point there.
You people with this entitlement attitude make me sick, and I mean SICK. Whatever happened to the party of JFK “ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country”? I’ll tell you what, and whom.
L A W Y E R S * and *DemoKrats
The putrid bottom feeding vultures upon society, producing nothing, but taking much for it. All you have to do is turn on the television, and within minutes an ad will appear for “one call, that’s all…” or “let us get for you what you deserve”, or “———- got me this check for $400,000, and I didn’t have to do a thing…” Ambulance chasers was a common moniker for these parasites, but I think that these days, that would be too honorable a label for these leeches. Who do you think collects the lions share of these ‘awards?’
The following was sent to me in an email, attributed to Rush Limbaugh, but I do not know if that part is true. But what I do know is true is the message contained within, that expresses where I think all this is leading:
**”I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving our country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don’t criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well, I can’t let the numbers pass by because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you’re going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable.
Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry. And there’s a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.
Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it’s not enough. Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL OF US, and they and their families know the dangers. (Actually, soldiers are put in harms way by politicians and commanding officers.)
We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that, some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for compensation as well.
You see where this is going, don’t you? Folks, this is part and parcel of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It’s just really sad. Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live in low-rent housing. Make sense?
However, our own US Congress voted themselves a raise. Many of you don’t know that they only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus. They do not receive Social Security on retirement because they didn’t have to pay into the system. If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an E-7, they may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harm’s way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.
I would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and daughters who are now fighting.
’ When do we finally do something about this?’ “
Like I said, I don’t know if Limbaugh said this, but even if Obama did(a cold day in hell will come first, BTW), I would feel the same. You can bet the farm that no dimwit Democrat like Mrs G sees anything right with what I have said, but thinks that these poor people should get the money. And the soldiers? Well, she replies, they knew what they were getting into when they signed up. The really sad, maddening, yet patriotic thing about it all is that although unseen, unasked for, unappreciated or just plain ignored, is the fact that these men and women are there not only protecting Mrs G and her whining crowd of morons, but also protecting her right to be a complete a$$ any and every day she chooses…like, well, every day of her life.
By BFKaJ
July 30, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this
Dear Mrs. Godzilla @ 9:19, we would agree that the leftist view of the Constitution is that it is a mutual suicide pact.
Dear Mrs. Godzilla @ 9:33, yes, and Senator Stevens affirms there was no quid pro quo in his deal. I don’t care what the shills say in either case, I am concerned about the underlying ethic, the subject of Jim’s essay today. To clarify my question, “ignore the shills, how do you feel about Obama’s ethic in his house purchase deal?” After you look at the pictures of the property, you realize the undeveloped lot is worthless as is. Surely there is an intelligible reason to spend $600,000 for a worthless undeveloped lot. I will conditionally accept your affirmation that the purpose was not to ensure a $300,000 benefit to Obama, but only on your explication of the alternative purpose for buying the worthless lot. Sounds a lot like the corrupt Stevens deal to me.
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Bud Wiser….or should we call you InBev now?
Seems not everybody scrolls past…or there’d be no responses. Dude please try and be accurate! It affects your credibility.
Come on Bud can’t you play nice with others? You begin with slurs, insults and smears….I get that far into your post and then….
I SCROLL PAST THE REST
By Paul
July 30, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
getalife 10:17
Back on my soapbox for full public financing of elections.
Peter
Well, one can dislike the Bush Administration, or the Iraq War, but my point was, there’s a whole Federal bureaucracy governed by laws and regulations, so no matter if the administration is Democratic or Republican, the same practices will continue. If the practices are bad, and the Democratic Congress rails against them, then they should introduce legislation to change them. They haven’t.
Same is true of the “outrage” over Valerie Plame. Convictions weren’t possible under current statutes. Democratic Congress has done nothing to change the statutes to enable convictions in future cases.
Political theater is more fun for some Congressmen then actually passing laws to correct shortcomings.
By Dusty
July 30, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
Thank you, Jim Wooten, for explaining that Republicans do not like illegal activity by anyone. That seems to be an “ethic” that has escaped the minds of liberals. The yah yah yah of hate bends liberals like grass in the wind. They also forget the “law” that people are considered innocent until proven guilty.
But…to wander from the subject…CommunistAJC’s report @9:42 shows exactly why I am so doubtful of Obama’s sincerity. It’s his BACKGROUND that proves the mindset and goals of this man Obama. One cannot be raised, riveted and reviewed with certain doctrines and suddently turn into something different. He hasn’t changed.
Obama has carefully and charmingly hidden his personal innate agenda because it is so strikingly different from American standards. His “change” is his escape from the ideals we have fought for and saved for so long.
Obama can act like a rainbow but his feet are buried in mud.
By Bud Wiser
July 30, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this
Once the right even smells the hint of REPARATIONS being issued by Hussein Obama, the word will spread.
It will be GAME OVER for Obama to even suggest that the concept of reparations under his administration could come to fruition. Every white or latino person in the country will show up to vote, maybe TWICE (an old Dimmokraut trick BTW) to see that this socialist never sets foot in the Oval Office.
And you know what? It is going to happen, because this supremely arrogant ba$tard can’t help himself…he truly believes he is the message, the hope, the Messiah for America. It’s going to happen.
You know it.
I know it.
It can’t be helped.
He will be true to his nature, and sicken and drive away any marginal supporters into the Republican fold, at least for this one ballot. The moronic left loons are already committed, or should be committed, I’m sure they are the same, and are still going to vote socialist anyway. They are too stupid not to.
And after the election is over, I shall be laughing my a$$ off at the leftist morons, crying in their green tea, as I head north for my annual mid-November deer hunt in northern Maine, knowing that our country is safe, for now, from the handout entitlement socialist welfare crowd, for at least a little while longer.
By Seadog
July 30, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this
You are so woefully misinformed - Stevens was indicted by a U.S. Justice Department whose lawyers were hand-picked for their republican and conservative credentials. Why don’t you inform yourself just a tiny little bit and look at the record of the Justice Department thus far up in Alaska concerning the VECO scandal? They haven’t lost a case yet in this sorry and sordid scandal. The chief of staff to former Governor Frank Murkowski - who is also was the junior Senator from Alaska, has pleaded guilty to multiple felonies already and is singing for the federal government. Ted Stevens’ son is waiting for his indictment to come down for oil and fishing industry deals. The FBI and U.S. Justice Department has a perfect record so far on VECO-related crimes - I’ll remember your editorial and laugh when Ted Stevens sinks further.
By Seadog
July 30, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
You are so woefully misinformed - Stevens was indicted by a U.S. Justice Department whose lawyers were hand-picked for their republican and conservative credentials. Why don’t you inform yourself just a tiny little bit and look at the record of the Justice Department thus far up in Alaska concerning the VECO scandal? They haven’t lost a case yet in this sorry and sordid scandal. The chief of staff to former Governor Frank Murkowski - who also was the junior Senator from Alaska, has pleaded guilty to multiple felonies already and is singing for the federal government. Ted Stevens’ son is waiting for his indictment to come down for oil and fishing industry deals. The FBI and U.S. Justice Department has a perfect record so far on VECO-related crimes - I’ll remember your editorial and laugh when Ted Stevens sinks further.
By thogwummpy
July 30, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
Here’s the thing which is infuriating though…the difference in media treatment. Stevens gets splashed everywhere; while the brewing Edwards sex scandal is hush-hush. You can’t trust news sources run by people like Cynthia Tucker; editors that vomit on the concept of ethical objectivity. This why Dim Harry Reid, who took (and admitted to it!!!) as much Abramoff money as anyone and did the quid pro quo favors, had the audacity to give a speech calling the Abramoff scandal “Republican corruption”—-the media gave him a pass, and applauded his story line. It’s the double-standard in the press that’s killing this country. At some point, patriots should cast their attention upon correcting the plauge of a dishonest journalist sector.
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
BFKaJ
Paragraph A: Nope. Tom Jefferson and friends didn’t write a suicde pact. Why do you hate our founding fathers?
Paragraph B: You have more homework to do. Keep trying. You might just be able to get the truth. Might.
By Paul
July 30, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
BudWiser
Congress pays Social Security tax. You may want to read factcheck.org
Link:Congress Social Security Pensions
While the concept of your assertion regarding pensions is correct, there’s a bit more to it. Congressmen are limited by law to a pension no more than 80 percent of salary. Example is Sen Byrd - one of longest serving, max pension would be about $11k a month. I think that’s ridiculous - but those amounts are the exception. Most receive far, far less.
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
Warrantless Wiretapping Supporter Sam Brownback Now Outraged Over Chinese Government’s Domestic Spying
Ted Stevens bribed Pakistan.
Dan Quayle may join “Dancing With The Stars
House Votes To Hold Rove In Contempt Of Congress
Salon Report: In Desperation, Army Promotes Unqualified Soldiers
Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), who once bashed Janet Jackson and that Justin guy for their “liberal values” as displayed in the wardrobe malfunction is now holding fundraisers at Las Vegas strip clubs.
By dusty
July 30, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
Identity theft 8:50..
Cheeto’s? Why would I want Cheetos?
Afterall it’s Wilma’s birthday here at the office, and I baked the scrumptious brownies that now grace the breakroom table!
Ted Stevens is a man of God, and a conservative to boot. Noway would he resort to .. Whatever it is he is accused of. Do I smell frame-up?
The Libs are so out of touch they have to resort to stuff like planting a foot tapper next to Larry Craig! Or how about a gotcha in the case of the god fearing Rick Foley! And, lord knows, look what they did to “Duke” Cunningham and Bob Ney!
Well off I run to the break room (hope some of those brownies are still left!)
Toodle doo
By Bud Wiser
July 30, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
I’m sure you scroll past me, Mrs G, because :
or (most likely)
NOTE for Democrats only, educated in public schools:
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This co·gent
–adjective
convincing or believable by virtue of forcible, clear, or incisive presentation; telling.
to the point; relevant; pertinent.
[Origin: 1650–60; < L cōgent- (s. of cōgéns, prp. of cōgere to drive together,
By Dusty
July 30, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
Well, my fool of thievery is still here. ID THIEF @11:01 Not real Dusty of course.
By Bud Wiser
July 30, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
Mrs G, I am sure you scroll past me because:
or (most likely)
NOTE for Democrats only educated in public schools:
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
co·gent Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation [koh-juhnt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
convincing or believable by virtue of forcible, clear, or incisive presentation; telling.
to the point; relevant; pertinent.
[Origin: 1650–60; < L cōgent- (s. of cōgéns, prp. of cōgere to drive together, collect, compel), equiv. to cōg- (co- co- + ag-, s. of agere to drive) + -ent- -ent]
—Related forms co·gent·ly, adverb Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
I hope your limited brain can understand this.
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
Bud Wiser
You so funny!
By fearless fosdik
July 30, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
In regards to the old crook Ted Stevens; I’m suprised I haven’t heard “WELL CLINTON DID IT!
Every time one of the republicans (which is often these days)gets caught with their pants down or in this case lying on their financial disclosure form. Rather then make a case why it’s not credible it’s..”Well SO and SO did it”!
Politicians…except for a few! Are naturally corrupt!
By BFKaJ
July 30, 2008 11:17 AM | Link to this
Dear Mrs. Godzilla @ 10:57, I think we agree. While the leftist view is that the Constitution is a mutual suicide pact, and that Thomas Jefferson did not write such a Constitution (I think he was in France when Madison did the first draft), the conservative construction, which does not support granting US Constitutional rights to enemy combatants, is surely the proper view.
Similarly, I agree with your implicit assessment of Obama’s ethics – I could not conceive a rational alternative explanation either.
By Paul
July 30, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
Dusty
Someone has a secret crush on Dusty! It’s either very cute… or a restraining order may be in the future!
Mrs. Godzilla
Dan Quayle? Dancing with the Stars?!!?
Agggckkkkk…. outta here -
By getalife
July 30, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
Paul,
When I see a gop hack like Jim cut and run from his party over corruption, I see an opportunity for real change. A real movement for change from both sides.
Not that change kool aid Obama spews:
Barack Obama told House Democrats on Tuesday that as president he would order his attorney general to scour White House executive orders and expunge any that “trample on liberty,” several lawmakers said.
Yet , he voted yes on FISA. Total bs.
Watching the corrupt Senate on C-Span 2, it is painfully obvious there will be no change until they address the elephant in the room. The legal bribery system of lobbyists for the industrial military complex, corporate special interests, conflict of interests, etc…. It goes on and on throughout the world politics.
By Dusty
July 30, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
Bud Wiser,
Would you mind adopting my ID THIEF? The “pound” won’t take IT and neither will the Zoo.
Since you are a deer hunter, I thought you might be able to manage the critter. IT only drools on week days. Please???
By JR
July 30, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
AmVet Get a dictionary and look up the definition of the word “penultimate” before you embarrass yourself again!
By Sam
July 30, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
Just caught a Bushdrunk speech blaming Dems for the gasoline problem. Thoroughly prepared, primed, speech written for him, Bushie expresses the English language at its most juvenile measurement. Geesussa!
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla, Do you work? I mean, all you do is post crap from Huffingtonpissed.
By Paul
July 30, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
getalife
I once asked, what’s the difference between a campaign contribution and a bribe?
The question still stands. I hope you’re right about real change. Your “legal system” description shows how power and money corrupt.
Sure hope you’re right…
Later -
By getalife
July 30, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
Paul,
I am wrong because there is no movement to stop it.
Later.
By RW-(the original)
July 30, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
“I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions,”
“this is the moment, as Nancy [Pelosi] noted, that the world is waiting for.”
Any doubts about what pompous a$$ those quotes came from?
Hint: He’s the Democrat Senator that got a shady land deal that greatly enhanced the value of his property, in cahoots with a political crony and remains unindicted.
By Glenn
July 30, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
Ah, it’s mighty hard to not like the Dustmite - the intellect and all. And I see AJC/DNC DuhMan is masturbating on this blog as well. Well, at least we have continuity.
By peadawg
July 30, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
I can’t believe people actually want to vote for a “man” who won’t even visit wounded troops in Germany. coward
McCain ‘08
By dirty harry
July 30, 2008 11:46 AM | Link to this
Nice try Jim! Comparing Ted Stevens case to Kay Bailey Hutchinson’s indictment.
But, there the similarities end.
First of all Stevens is charged by the DOJ.
Hutchinson’s indictment was brought forth by the Travis County Texas grand jury! A far cry from the DOJ!
And, you failed to mention Senator David Durenberger a republican from Minnesota who was indicted the same year, of misusing public funds…Found guilty!
Are we in the NO-SPIN zone here? Or do you inadvertanly leave out information?
By george hussein washington
July 30, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
The GOP is ALL about corruption…Take McCancer Face’s offshore oil drilling gimmick…Sounds good, right? But reality gits in the way, buy GOP lies just ignore reality. What is the reality? Try this - “Drill, Drill, Drill” isn’t realistic because all the oil rigs are rented out for the next three to five years. Stupid Repukes, we may have even less — the contracts for sea-based rigs are being snapped up by national oil companies from Brazil to Saudi Arabia, and Chinese oil companies make shopping trips for land-based rigs in North America. They break ‘em down and ship ‘em back home for their own urgent energy exploration program. Drill, Drill, Drill is really Lie, Lie, Lie….
By AmVet
July 30, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
The debate is over.
Some of the less whacked-out GOP apologists, well at least Mr. Wooten anyway, finally realize that their days are numbered.
The last election and virtually everything that has ensued confirms it. This humiliated once Grand Old Party has practically gift wrapped the US Congress and MANY other elected positions across the country and handed it to the Dems.
And even the historically Republican-lite panty wastes in that nearly as corrupt party are going to be hard pressed to screw this one up. Though I believe they will do their best. Perhaps they’ll blame Nader again? Or gerrymandering? Or…
But regardless, methinks the abysmal failure known as the Bush legacy spells the demise of this moronically misnamed conservatism.
Hopefully forever.
The best possible scenario is that some new, young Republicans retake this hijacked clusterf&ck back from the Reaganistas, Newt Nuts and Bush league Presidents and have a major political epiphany.
One involving reasonableness and effective governance instead of demagoguery and an outdated ideology that has been proven time and again to be misguided and counter-productive.
And Jim FINALLY sees it…
By ghost rider
July 30, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
By peadawg
July 30, 2008 11:43 AM
PEADAWG…You should know that what you wrote is nothing more than a LIE.
The reason was he didn’t want to turn the visit into a political event!
Do you work for Karl Rove?
By peadawg
July 30, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
ghost rider:
who cares what other people think! visit the wounded troops. how un-american can someone get?
By @@
July 30, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
Getalife:
If you wanted to lobby congress on “your special interest” - legalized drugs, should you have that right?
Paul:
An off-topic tidbit:
U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen and CIA Deputy Director Stephen Kappes traveled secretly to Pakistan on July 12 to confront Pakistani leaders about links between the country’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and pro-Taliban militants linked to al Qaeda, the New York Times reported July 30. Kappes and Mullen reportedly presented evidence of ISI links to a militant network led by Maulavi Jalaluddin Haqqani and called on Islamabad to take action to address the problem. The U.S. officials met with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, military chief Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, ISI head Gen. Nadeem Taj and Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani.
If, in fact, the complicity of the ISI was exposed to the Pakistani government, why would they place it under the Interior Ministry after the fact, and then return it to the military?
I are cornfused.
By Common Sense
July 30, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this
Mr. Cummunist,
Please tell me why we have not drilled for new oil and built new nuclear plants?
Do you really believe your posts?
You and bud something are making me sick with this bs you post every week.
Wake-up and smell the smog!
Unless the utility gaints redo the power grids we cannot build no more 5 to 10 nuclear plant. First most southern states and western states do not have the water to cool the nuclear reactors?
State have a problem sharing the power produced already from some of the NUCLEAR plants.
Wind and solar are going to be the answer because our cost are going up no matter what we do because of rising raw material costs and labor.
When this country becomes half- hybrid in cars on the road that will reduce our oil dependence by 8 millions barrels per day and their is no other country that can take an additional 8M barrel of oil per day.
Our economy has to change to infrasture and renewable energy to reduce overall costs of goods.
Oil needs to stay above $90 a barrel for the oil companies to make a profit that is why they have not drill on the land they already have.
No one really knows if there is an abundance of oil in Alaska or off-shore.
Drive the pick-up truck on the weekend and go buy a hybrid!
By Abomi Nation
July 30, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
Senator Larry Craig (Republican)- Likes to have sex in public restrooms with young male studs.
Senator David Vitter (Republican)- Likes to hire prostitutes to change his soiled diapers then has sex with them.
Senator Ted Stevens (Republican)- Indicted for lying about illegal gifts he received from oil company.
All 3 still in office. No wonder the congressional approval ratings are so low. No wonder Republicans will lose more seats in Congress. No wonder we haven’t heard a peep about “family values” this election season.
TapTapTap-Tappity-tap tap tap?
By RW-(the original)
July 30, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
The reason was he didn’t want to turn the visit into a political event!
You moonbat(ic)s® sure are a gullible lot.
Peadawg, should you decide to banter with this clown I quoted, even the New York Times asked just yesterday why the Senator didn’t just go by himself.
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Good question asked above. Has William Jefferson, the Democrat caught with marked bills in his freezer been indicted? That would seem to be an easy one.
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EARTH—Former vice president Al Gore—who for the past three decades has unsuccessfully attempted to warn humanity of the coming destruction of our planet, only to be mocked and derided by the very people he has tried to save—launched his infant son into space Monday in the faint hope that his only child would reach the safety of another world.
“On his new planet, Kal-Al’s Earth physiology will react to the radiation of a differently colored sun, causing him to develop abilities far beyond those of mortal men,” political analyst Sig Schuster said. “He will be faster than a speeding Prius, stronger than the existing Superfund program, and able to leap mountains of red tape in a single bound. These superpowers will sustain him in his never-ending battle against conservatives, wealthy industrialists, and other environmental supervillains.”
By ghost rider
July 30, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
PEADAWG…
Say it over, and over again (It’s called propaganda)
And, pretty soon you’ll have everyone believing a lie to be the truth!
By Dusty
July 30, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this
Uh oh, the liberal lunchroom loonies are here. Too much baloney being passed around.
Geogie Washingboard,
So off shore drilling is a new gimmick? Since when? Maybe you ought to tell the poeple out there working on ‘em. Buddy, you aint out there on no oil rig!
AmVet of doom and gloom,
Don’t count your chickens before they hatch. Or somewhat like Mark Twain’s remarks about his demise being somewhat early . Or maybe you would like “It aint over ‘til the fat lady sings.” Whatever.
Republicans are not on your Christmas demise list. They have two leaders with no ethic fears…Bush & McCain. Eat your heart out, buddy. and sit on your middle of the road plank until you get run over.
Ghost Rider..stop telling jokes. Obama did not want to turn his [hospital] visit into a political event.
OBAMA’S WHOLE TRIP WAS A POLITICAL EVENT. Military rules prevent political activity in hospitals. That is why Obama could not politicize wounded American soldiers. Whew!! Do you work for Disney?
By ghost rider
July 30, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this
By RW-(the original)
July 30, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
RW..for your edification>>>>
Republican groups frequently invoke the Jefferson case in defending their party from broad-brush charges of corruption. Even Public Citizen, a liberal consumer watchdog group, featured Jefferson on an “Ethics Hall of Shame” list recently.
A federal grand jury on June 7 2007 indicted Louisiana Democratic Rep. William Jefferson on 16 charges relating to a long-running investigation into bribery, racketeering, obstruction of justice and money laundering.
And ,I’m the one you call a MOONBAT?
Seems a little reading to keep up with what’s going on should be on your homework list!
By RW-(the original)
July 30, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
ghost humper,
Thanks for playing! I knew I could get one of you moonbat(ic)s® to admit the indictment of an allegedly corrupt Democrat.
Got any info on the Mayor of Detroit?
By getalife
July 30, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
@@,
I do have the right but not the bribery money. Frank has a bill to smoke weed in certain places so there is hope.
Why is Jim the only one from the radical right man enough to admit corruption is a deal breaker?
Party over country no matter what?
Do tell @@.
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
When campaign web stunts go awry: The day’s clever RNC attack on Obama seems to be in the process of being swallowed by the Internets. After Obama supporters swarmed BarackBook with a series of not-so-friendly discussion threads, the GOP seems to have disabled the discussion feature and deleted the mockery. The ‘review’ feature is still on, however, so the first thing readers see on the page is ‘E-Viagra for crotchety old Republicans: Destined to be the #1 website in Czechoslovakia and the Iraq/Pakistan border region.’”
Mike Huckabee equated McCain with Bob Dole yesterday. I suspect that was not well received at McCain HQ.
Well, that certainly didn’t take long. On July 3, news reports said Senator John McCain, worried that he might lose the election before it truly started, opened his doors to disciples of Karl Rove from the 2004 campaign and the Bush White House. Less than a month later, the results are on full display. The candidate who started out talking about high-minded, civil debate has wholeheartedly adopted Mr. Rove’s low-minded and uncivil playbook.In recent weeks, Mr. McCain has been waving the flag of fear (Senator Barack Obama wants to “lose” in Iraq), and issuing attacks that are sophomoric (suggesting that Mr. Obama is a socialist) and false (the presumptive Democratic nominee turned his back on wounded soldiers).Mr. McCain used to pride himself on being above this ugly brand of politics, which killed his own 2000 presidential bid. But he clearly tossed his inhibitions aside earlier this month when he put day-to-day management of his campaign in the hands of one acolyte of Mr. Rove and gave top positions to two others. […]Many voters are wondering whether a McCain presidency would be an extension of Mr. Bush’s two disastrous terms. If the way Mr. McCain is running his campaign these days is an indication, Americans don’t have to wait until next January for the answer to that one.
Did the McCain campaign give up on its lobbyist ban?
Can we note that Karl Rove is now working as an outside advisor to John McCain? So shouldn’t McCain be asked about today’s developments?
Senate Republicans block effort to aid paralyzed vets
Leaked documents show Georgia warned of Diebold patch
Hundreds of people working in the military, government and education are on a list of almost 10,000 people who spent $7.3 million buying phony and counterfeit high school and college degrees from a Spokane diploma mill.
By ghost rider
July 30, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
I stand corrected DUSTY, but you basically made my case for me.
As for you taking GW to task concerning the DRILL, DRILL, comment…He’s right, you’re wrong! Correct me if I’m wrong I saw nothing that said Gimmick in his comment? Make it up right?
I know a little bit about oil rigs..I flew in the North Atlantic with CHC helicopters, and with PHI out of the gulf!
By the sound of your tenor I assume you’ve been on an oil rig!
Did you Take your BROWNIES with you?
By ghost rider
July 30, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
RW…You’re welcome! I love to play little mind games!
I never denied Jefferson wasn’t as corrupt as anyone else who gets their lttle hand caught in the cookie jar.
As you should have noted my first paragraph was a denunciation of Jefferson!
A crook is a crook…I don’t care what political party they belong to.
I strongly suggest my optometrist, perhaps he has some reading glasses that will benefit you!
You all have fun…got things to do!
By getalife
July 30, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
“Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), who once bashed Janet Jackson and that Justin guy for their “liberal values” as displayed in the wardrobe malfunction is now holding fundraisers at Las Vegas strip clubs.
Here’s one of the employees at the establishment crawling on all fours wearing a belt and a leather bra. Not that there’s anything wrong with that …”
—Josh Marshall
By dblaney17
July 30, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
“This report shows that the reality is worse than the public’s fears. Instead of encouraging open debate, I’m disappointed that Majority Leader Reid often chooses secrecy or demagoguery,” he added. Coburn was referring to a non-partisan study released on June 10 by the government’s Congressional Research Service (CRS), which indicates that 855 of the 911 bills passed by the Senate of the 110th Congress have been streamlined by Democratic Party leadership with a procedural tactic known as Unanimous Consent (UC), which requires no debate or even a vote.
Excuse me, but did we not hear the Dems complain about Republicans doing just that which is why the Dems felt the need to return to ethics in Congress? I guess this is what we would call Nancy Pelosi’s “most ethical and non-partisan congress in history.”
Democrats have a lot of room to run their big fat mouths on this blog, don’t they?
By peadawg
July 30, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
Exactly what did I lie about? I stated a fact (he didn’t visit wounded troops) and I gave my opinion about his excuse (didn’t want it to turn political) and how it was bs. Am I missing something?
By Dusty
July 30, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
ghost rider,12:43
I knew you were flyng high on something. I didn’t think it was helicopters.
George Washington was using oil rigs as a gimmick because he doesn’t like MCcCain suggesting more use of them. That is why he called it a “GIMMICK”. I mentioned that we are already using oil rigs offshore.
Also, I haven’t been on an oil rig. But… I don’t believe robots are running oil rigs. I suggested the POSSIBILITY that men were already working on such offshore projects.
Obviously you think that was a wild guess. OK. What would you like? Little space men on offshore oil rigs? Mermaids?
By Devastator
July 30, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
Tomorrow is the financial reporting deadline for July.
Once again, everyone will be sizing up this campaign to see if we can compete with John McCain and the Republican National Committee.
Your hard work and generosity have gotten us this far, but the fact remains, our opponents still have a big fundraising advantage. They are very good at raking in huge donations, especially from Washington lobbyists and special interest PACs.
That’s why we need to show the strength of our grassroots movement before tomorrow’s deadline. Help prove that a campaign powered by people like you, giving only what they can afford, can go toe-to-toe with the Republican fundraising machine.
Make a donation of $25 or more to support this movement for change:
https://donate.barackobama.com/deadline As you’ve probably heard, if you make a donation before tomorrow at midnight, you could join me at the Democratic National Convention in Denver.
This year, we’re opening up the convention the way supporters like you have opened up the political process all across the country. On the last day, more than 75,000 people will come together to be a part of history — folks like you who have been building this movement from the bottom up.
It will be an incredible event, and if you make a donation in any amount before tomorrow’s deadline, you and a guest could travel to Denver, spend a couple of nights at a hotel, and join me backstage before I accept the nomination.
Please make a donation of $25 or more now. I’m looking forward to seeing you soon:
https://donate.barackobama.com/deadline
Thanks,
Barack
By Big Dandy
July 30, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
dblaney17 keeps posting that nonsense like it means anything. Hey idiot, how about we end the filibuster like the Republicans wanted to do when they were in control?
Shall we end the filibuster? Naw, the way things are going the Republicans won’t be able to filibuster much longer! How many seats do you think the Republicans will lose dblaney17? House will make strong gains too, looks like America loves Nancy.
btw, cnsnews.com……LMAO!!!!
By T-Bill
July 30, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
Party it up Kerry! Why the long face anyway? Haha. And this liberal Dem wanted to be our next president. Unreal.
By BFKaJ
July 30, 2008 1:30 PM | Link to this
Dear getalife @ 11:23, I don’t wish to horrify you, but I agree with the main thrust of your argument here, your final paragraph. You fail to mention only the most insidious “controllers” in society, the environmentalists. Ditto Paul @ 11:29.
Dear common @ 12:10, you err. The Tennessee River alone has sufficient water to cool every nuclear plant in the country, plus every nuclear plant we would ever wish to build. So does the Columbia, and so do the Mississippi, Missouri, and Ohio. Wind and solar are a fool’s dream – they are too unreliable as a direct energy source, as they are outside the control of man. If we allowed drilling everywhere, subject to market forces only rather than the whims of the Congressional overlords, the price of oil would fall below $50 per barrel.
Some validity in your comments: the time Utilities use to develop nuclear plants would be needed to expand the power grid – obviously not an insuperable issue. The time needed by the oil companies to develop oil fields would be needed to expand refineries. And we would do well to use the same interim time to continue to improve efficiency and reliability of our batteries. But the solution is not that of the democrats, to continue to block private companies from doing anything; quite the opposite, the solution is to unleash private enterprise.
By @@
July 30, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
Getalife:
I do have the right but not the bribery money.
If you DID have the money, would you lobby congress with it to bring down the price, or would you continue to pay top dollar for your stash?
Barney Frank - wasn’t there some scandal about him running a male escort service out of the White House? That’s O.K. as long as he gets you your legalized marijuana?
Why is Jim the only one from the radical right man enough to admit corruption is a deal breaker?
Probably because he’s a man, not a woman.
When have you ever seen me, a woman, support proven corruption on the part of a Republican or Democrat?
@@ mannin’ up.
By Dusty
July 30, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
OH NO…attention Mrs. Godzie. Look at that 1:27
Devastator is infringing on your territory. He is publishing the whole document. That is not fair.
You post only segments of Demo News and here he is begging with the WHOLE kit’n’cabootle from Obama’s enclave. Even inviting us to the Dem convention like they’d pay for it. Ha!
I DEMAND an investigation. There are unfair practices in Blog Country. Mrs. Godzie is being discriminated and delegated to dispair. Devastator is getting all the kickbacks.
To prevent this terrible injustice, send your $100 pocket money to John McCain Headquarters. He’s looking forward to your support and setting things straight. Now that’s a man who can get things done…not put a dapper diaper on America and call it CHANGE.
By Sosad
July 30, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
These partisan comments seem to allude to the idea that corruption is only wrong if it’s the other party in trouble. But both parties have bad apples - each side can pull names out of that hat. And if the number of unsavory congressmen were added up over the last 20 years, I bet the party tally would be very even. Of course, there are spikes that correspond to the party in power. It happened with Dems in the nineties and now with Repubs. With Dems coming back into power, it’ll be their problem again within a few years. Then Republicans can act outraged and Dems can say “You did it, too!” It’ll be a fun role reversal.
Corruption isn’t intrinsic to parties and politicizing crime for partisan reasons is lazy. It was nice to see that Jim Wooten didn’t do that today. Thanks.
By Devastator
July 30, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
Dusty,
The only thing McCan’t needs $100 for is for a hooker to replace the one he’s with.
By CJ
July 30, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
A new day…a new McCain flip-flop.
In May 2008, McCain approved a ban on lobbyists working for his campaign. Yesterday, his campaign reversed course and said lobbyists could work for his campaign. Not unlike Alaska’s Ted Stevens, McCain is selling us out.
Anyway, this latest flip-flop brings the count of The Official John McCain Flip-Flop List up to 72 items.
Enjoy.
By BFKaJ
July 30, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
Dear @@ @ 12:10 and 1:40, while I am respectful of the need for right to petition, I think our friend getalife focuses on corporate welfare in all of its forms and unnecessary restraints imposed by Congress. To that extent, I believe we are in sync.
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
T-BILL
Senator John Kerry did not party with college coeds over the weekend, his rep tells Usmagazine.com, after new photos that show the 2004 Democratic presidential candidate posing with a rowdy crowd holding beers. “As Sen. Kerry and two friends left dinner at the Straight Warf restaurant on Nantucket and walked down the dock, a large group on a boat recognized Sen. Kerry and asked if they could have a photo taken,” Kerry spokesperson David Wade tells Us. “The group came off the boat and onto the dock, took a photo with Sen. Kerry and his friends, and then Sen. Kerry and his two friends immediately walked away. End of story,” the spokesperson adds.
how many times do I have to say it!! FACT CHECK DUDES!!! FACT CHECK!!!(unless you’re proud to be a liar!
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
Republicans Beat Democrats 17 To 3:- Top 20 Corrupt Congressmen
Top 20 Most Corrupt - The lineup with links to backup documentation of unethical behavior:
· Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT) · Sen. Bill Frist (R-TN) · Rep. Rick Santorum (R-PA) · Rep. Roy Blunt (R-MO) · Rep. Ken Calvert (R-CA) · Rep. John Doolittle (R-CA) · Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL) · Rep. Katherine Harris (R-FL) · Rep. William Jefferson (D-LA) · Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-CA) · Rep. Gary Miller (R-CA) · Rep. Alan Mollohan (D-WV) · Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (R-CO) · Rep. Richard Pombo (R-CA) · Rep. Rick Renzi (R-AZ) · Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX) · Rep. John Sweeney (R-NY) · Rep. Charles Taylor (R-NC) · Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) · Rep. Curt Weldon (R-PA)
Dishonorable Mentions:
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By Common Sense
July 30, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
To: Dusty you are really funny! I see your knowledge of politics is lacking but nevertheless you bring a smile!
To BKLMOPURST
I did not know the Tennesee river ran thru all the states that need nuclear power.
The population and business shift to the south has put a tremendous strain on the water resource. If not why ar we fighting with Tennessee, Alabama and Florida over the water from Lake Lanier?
I agree some nuclear plants will be built in the Midwest and East where water supply is amply but no here in the south except the coastline of Florida.
Even though the President lifted the oil ban and if Congress lifts the oil ban, the states in question Florida and California are against drilling off-shore.
Also don’t even speak of drilling for oil shales in Colorado. Not enough water to power the drilling efforts.
Wind will work! Solar will work in certain parts of the country. Soon they will be able to store Solar energy in mass which will take out 20 to 30 percent of coal use!
Can you imagine the Utility companies getting scare if we are able to reduce coal usage?
Obama in 08!
By @@
July 30, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
BFKaj:
I’m just methin with Getalife. He’s addictive. (ISH)
By Redneck Convert
July 30, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
Well, I might of knowed. Just let one godly Republican get a extra floor put on his house and some other extras and the godless libruls act like he’s been in public restroom playing footsy with some other guy.
Pretty soon a guy won’t have no reason to run for Congress. If you can’t start out dirt poor and leave the office filthy rich, why bother to run. Just show me one senator that ain’t worth at least a million. It’s the American way. It’s Capitalism. It’s the way God intended things to be.
Anyhow, I never minded helping pay for a bridge or three or four so people in one town of 300 people wouldn’t have to take a boat to visit people in another town of 300 people.
All you libruls can just go and kiss my grits! Picky, picky, picky. Besides, everybody lies to the cops. If that’s the best they got on this Stevens guy, they may as well sign the surrender papers.
By The Love Hack
July 30, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Leonard Pitts wrote a watershed article in today’s AJC @ISSUE about the slave industry surviving the civil war in spite of the emancipation proclamation. Southern white conspirators kept slavery alive till well after WW2.
By BFKaJ
July 30, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Dear common @ 2:17, the Tennessee River has at least three nuclear power plants online right now. You need to drive to see that gorgeous river; not at all like our pathetic Chattahoochee. I think I have heard the Cumberland, through Nashville, has even more water than the Tennessee. And I think you are implicitly acknowledging that the Missouri, the Mississippi, the Ohio, and the Columbia touch a lot of states, thus invalidating your assertion of the impossibility of cooling nuclear plants through a wide swath of the country. You need not worry about Tennesseans fighting over riparian rights in the Chattahoochee – that is surely a typo. You correctly affirm that the leftists in California and Florida object to energy independence for the rest of us. I think you err on the potentiality of wind, but I am loathe to criticize optimism anywhere (maybe if you will refrain from requiring a drain on the public purse in pursuit of same….) I will acknowledge the theoretical possibility of solar – if we ever have efficient batteries, each home could supplement its needs with a solar panel.
A useful reminder on optimism, from the speech in Berlin:
In this season of spring in 1945, the people of Berlin emerged from their air-raid shelters to find devastation. Thousands of miles away, the people of the United States reached out to help. And in 1947 Secretary of State George Marshall announced the creation of what would become known as the Marshall Plan. Speaking precisely 40 years ago this month, he said: “Our policy is directed not against any country or doctrine, but against hunger, poverty, desperation, and chaos.” [T]hat dream became real. Japan rose from ruin to become an economic giant. Italy, France, Belgium — virtually every nation in Western Europe saw political and economic rebirth; the European Community was founded.
In West Germany and here in Berlin, there took place an economic miracle, the Wirtschaftswunder. Adenauer, Erhard, Reuter, and other leaders understood the practical importance of liberty — that just as truth can flourish only when the journalist is given freedom of speech, so prosperity can come about only when the farmer and businessman enjoy economic freedom. The German leaders reduced tariffs, expanded free trade, lowered taxes. From 1950 to 1960 alone, the standard of living in West Germany and Berlin doubled.
In the 1950s, Khrushchev predicted: “We will bury you.” But in the West today, we see a free world that has achieved a level of prosperity and well-being unprecedented in all human history… . And now the Soviets themselves may, in a limited way, be coming to understand the importance of freedom… . Are these the beginnings of profound changes in the Soviet state? Or are they token gestures, intended to raise false hopes in the West, or to strengthen the Soviet system without changing it? There is one sign the Soviets can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!
By Ga Values
July 30, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Mrs. Godzilla , do you know anything about the orginization that published the top 22. It’s hard to believe David Scott is our most corrupt congressman but we all know he & his family will get RICH off the housing bill Jonnie & Saxby voted for.. Wonder if he has to give them a commission.
By Dusty
July 30, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
Devastator@2:04
Now now…just because you spend $100 on frivolous fillies does not mean McCain does.
Do you have McCain mixed up with Bill Clinton?
Now you’ve got Mrs. Godzie all mixed up. She’s out spouting numbers like she’s playing bingo. Somebody give her a prize and tell her winners can go home. It’s your fault, Dev, cutting in on her territory..
CommonSense@ 2:17
Thank you.
But…surely you would not suggest that I am not knee deep in politics? I’ll have you know that I watch Lehrer News Hour Monday through Friday when the Braves games aren’t on. I am totally impartial with no bumper stickers and no yard signs. I refuse to “cut’n’paste” and have an aversion to boneheads. Bloggers can find their own “links”. I would have to be dragged, hollering and screaming, to a political rally. So there!
I like Jim Wooten who is straight as an arrow and well informed. He will be voting for McCain. I will too along with my family and friends. McCain is a good man and we need his proven strength…So…Cheers, my friend. All is well…We live in the USA.
By @@
July 30, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
Oh lawdy……the David Scott campaign signs down here in Clayton County are too many to count. I wonder if they know?
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
GA VALUES
YEP.
Read about them here
By Inspector Clouseau
July 30, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
By Dusty
July 30, 2008 3:00 PM
Ms Dusty vis a vis your latest comment in response to CommonSense one has to wonder…are you auditioning as a STAND-UP-COMIC?
By dusty
July 30, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
Brownies anyone?
Still some left in the breakroom!
By getalife
July 30, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
GFY @@ (Good For You). I guess we will wait after the corrupt dem majority further destroy us before we unite to end corruption.
Anyhoo, legalizing weed will create jobs and tax revenue like legalizing liquor.
Its way past time to join the rest of the world.
By Christopher Brewton
July 30, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
Please be aware that the Bridge to Nowhere is an ongoing project that has been envisioned for the past 30 years. What most folks don’t realize is Kethchikan is served only by airline or boat. The airport is located on Gravina island adjacent to the city of Ketchikan and the only access is a small ferry that operates on a limited schedule.
The weight limitations of the ferry preclude such things as bringing emergency equipment, such as a fire tanker truck, to the airport with the fire truck first pumping off all the water &/or equipment and refilling on the Gravina side.
Imagine the response to a 737 airliner crash (of which there was in the early 70’s), which consists of pumping the fire truck dry while the carnage smoulders on the runway.
This is a valid and viable project that is critically needed for this community.
By Dusty
July 30, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
Inspector Clouseau…sir….I am not trying to take your place. Somebody should but not me.
Boredom lives when the blog gets bogged. People start dropping like flies. I merely react to tedious tepid torment, like yours.
Now get busy and find the ID Thief @3:13. See what I mean, a repetitious roue’ of regurgitation, a lib on the loose. This one will vote for Obama for sure.
By alan
July 30, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
What? Jim Wooten criticizing “conservatives” and members of the GOP? I must be dreaming !! It so true that sometimes it snows in June (emmm July, in this case)!
alan
By The Love Hack
July 30, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Sen Stephens is innocent till proven guilty.
Nothing that happens in Sen. Steven’s life is going to change what happens in November.
Serious landslide victory for Obama.
McCain 08: Where did he learn to intone like that? That spiral downward of a phrase or a word, you know what I’m talking about. Who could listen to more than 10 seconds of that?
He just isn’t electible. He’s only going to get 30to 36 percent of the vote.
the only way for McCain to get elected is for a 911 to happen, and Obama is seen on video piloting one of the planes.
other than that, it’s Obama.
Obama 08: America4America (copyright 2008)
By Common Sense
July 30, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
I am all for weed being legalized!
More jobs and increase tax revenue.
To BKABCDEFG:
I am not really disputing the nuclear power need, I believe that is part of the solution and not part of the problem.
We just have to be careful regarding the availability of water. I believe the REPLUBLICAN are in control in Florida and you have not heard a peep from them until know about drilling for off-shore oil.
By the way Dusty I know you voted for Perdue and I see with his incredible fiscal policies the state of GA is in the sink hole for $600 hundred million. No wonder The Governor could not help the city of Atlanta pay for the sewer costs!
Your beloved Jim is going to vote Obama all the way in September. After all he not left nor right just supporting Senator Obama for President the best choice!
Jim I want to see something regarding the Governor and senate from Georgia they are ruining this great state!
I do not care if they are Replublicans or Democrats they most go!
Who is with me?
By Hillbilly Deluxe
July 30, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
Corruption knows no idealogical or party bounds. It’s widespread across the board. Whenever someone is dumb enough to get caught however, give them their fair trial and then hang them. (Figureatively of course. I probably didn’t spell that correctly but I’ve always thought it’s a pretty small minded person who thinks a word can only be spelled one way.)
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
Common Sense, I don’t own a pickup but if I did I would surely drive it over your pansy assed, cross burning, gay loving, 300 lb body.
By george hussein washington
July 30, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Yo Dirt Ball….you can STFU….the gimmick is to push an option, off shore drilling, knowing full well that we do not have the drill rigs to full exploit in the time frame promised…..now shove it where the sun doesn’t shine…oh, that includes anywhere you or your family happens to be squatting…Dumb B(witch)…
By Paul
July 30, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
Devastator 2:04
A prominent advocate for Obama should be better than that -
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India’s news sources have interesting insights on the Pakistan Intel Service. Here’s one of the more enlightening:
Link: Pakistan intel back under military
It’s revealing how much India’s intel service is tracking this. Of course, they’re likely more concerned than we are about a militant Pakistani govt.
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this
AmVet, The debate is over? OK AlGore. Keep telling yourself that. IT was also over in 2000 and 2004 right? Your idiotic democrat party has driven up gas prices and caused the economy to tank. Go sell stupid somewhere else.
By george hussein washington
July 30, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
CommunistAJC, I don’t need a pickup truck or anything else to nail your ugly a* to a cross, and after 48 hours of hanging, burn you alive….
By getalife
July 30, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
Ehud Olmert, facing accusations of corruption, says he will step down in September .
Tubes boy should follow his lead.
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 3:50 PM | Link to this
Common Sense, Weed being legalized? You don’t say. I mean reading most of your postings led me to believe you were either A: a surfer, B: a high school dropout, or C: a kid who is mentally retarded and somehow found his moms computer to play on.
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
george hussein washington, I’d love for you to try because there would be a 50 caliber rifle aimed at your forehead. It would then take me a couple of days to bury all 400 lbs of you.
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
george hussein washington, What you just said surprises me. Why? Because liberals don’t know how to fight. Nor do liberals like to kill grown ups. Just unborn babies. How many times were you raped in prison?
By dusty
July 30, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
Brownies anyone?
The Ingrates here at the office only ate Betty’s cake!
Well, Mr. Dusty will be happy!
By mr dusty
July 30, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
WILL NOT…
Them brownies are as hard as hockey pucks!
By Blind Homer
July 30, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
Public service? Public service? Politicians are in the business of legitimizing the use of power for personal gain. If the public is served at all, it’s an accident or an election year. A balanced budget amendment, line item veto, and term limits would all help, which just means it’s no coincidence those have all been talked about recently but nothing has or will be done about them!
By AJC/DNC Management
July 30, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this
Obama’s Answer to Drilling Debate: Inflate Your Tires
Lord High Dimwit says “we could save as much oil as they’re going to get from drilling by inflating your tires.
Got that?
Did RW mention that this guy is a dunce?
So everybody pull your car up to Obambi’s ego and we’ll start saving energy!
You freak liberals can bring your blow up man boy dolls too, while you’re at it.
By Dusty
July 30, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
Uh OH CommonSense @ 3:36 has lost it…and I had high hopes for him.
Does getalife have a twin brother/sister?? Leagalize weed? Increase jobs and joy and jungle fever?
No thanks.
I voted for Gov Perdue as governor, not as State magician. He is not the base cause of less tax payments. The economy is rocky.
The governor now prepares for ways to keep the budget within reach of money coming in. That sounds sensible to me.
He is not responsible for the bad decisions of Atlanta. I’m not even sure Shirley Franklin is. She’s loaded with the bad decisions and promises made years ago by poor politicians leaving as rich ones. Gov. Perdue had absolutely nothing to do with that.
I believe that Jim Wooten will vote for McCain. The alternatives do not leave any other choice as far as I can see.
So there you go. No candidate is perfect. I am only choosing the best one of those who come before us. McCain 2008
By george hussein washington
July 30, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
commieFagacj: you show your ignorance…a 50 is not used for up close work…something smaller, like a 9….you ignorant pos….
By george hussein washington
July 30, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
George cannot wait till law and order breaks down…so many scum bags wanting to die, and so many ways to grant them their wish….commieajc and its entire family are just begging for a hurting…and george knows nothing of mercy or pity….DIE SCREAMING, SCUM
By dirty harry
July 30, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
COMMIE, What an inane comment “liberals don’t know how to fight.”
Bob Kerrey (MEDAL OF HONOR) Daniel Inouye (MEDAL OF HONOR) John Glenn 6 (distinguished flying crosses) George McGovern..35 combat missions (Distinguished flying cross) David Hackworth (earned over 90 decorations) the list is endless!
This is not about who wants to fight..It’s about when to fight!
Get out your 50 caliber rifle .. I’m sure all the folks in your trailer park will be impressed!
By Dusty
July 30, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
I won’t even mention ID Thieves. Poor babies.
Paul,3:44
Pakistans’s PM said last night that they could not match the info collected by the US in the mountains of Pakistan. It seems they do not have the equipment to intercept messages and don’t have any drones as were used in the last US raid. He asks for more exchange of information (and probably more equipment) so that they can act on raids in their country.
I think he is between a rock and a hard place….maintaining the sovereignty of the country and keeping peace at home. I thought he was very thoughtful and intelligent. Wish I felt that way about all Pakistanis.
Bye now…Maybe tomorrow….maybe
By dirty harry
July 30, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this
george hussein washington
Go to UTUBE and type in 50 caliber you’ll see this reference Guy hit in head with .50 caliber ricochet…It’s hilarious watching this redneck get blasted by his own shot…Typical redneck!
I’m Sure ol’ commie is still using his Hopalong Cassidy POP GUN.
By Dusty
July 30, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
One last note to dirty hairy..
Thought you might like to know that Stevens flew with the Flying Tigers, a group flying out of Burma on one of the most dangerous routes of war time. Many never made it back. The man MAY have made mistakes but he is no coward.
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
george hussein washington cumguzzler, No, a 50 cal would mean your 400lb face would be splattered across my lawn. That way, the rats from your trailer could have food for the next 5 months.
dirty harry, WOW, you mentioned 5 people. The list is endless?That was a very short ENDLESS list. And I wasn’t even talking about war your moron. I was talking about actual FIGHTING, as in brawl, fist fight, throw down. My trailer park? Dude, I don’t live in your neighborhood.
By george hussein washington
July 30, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
FAT, SOFT, LAZY AMERIKANS ARE NOT SLAVE MATERIAL…THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THESE FAT COWS IS AS A FEED SOURCE FOR BIODIESEL…. DIRT BALL AND COMMIEFAGGOTAJC WILL BE THE FIRST INTO THE REACTION VESSELS…
By TW
July 30, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
Listening to McSame brag about getting shot down and captured explains perfectly why the GOP is the loser party. Yeah, I want that guy out in front of my military…
Because a loser is a loser.
Did a guy who lives in a cave really make the supposed leader of the free world look like a clown or what?
Embarrassing…
By RW-(the original)
July 30, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
Roll Call asked the Obama campaign to explain this apparent reversal of policy. Team Obama claimed that they would refund any donation they find that came from a lobbyist — but that they rely on lobbyists to identify themselves at the time of the donation. That seems a little strange to me; if we can rely on lobbyists to be honest, then why does Obama reject their contributions at all?
Perhaps it’s because he’s a dunce.
The campaign says they will return contributions “soon” from these lobbyists. It could make it easier if they quit sending them so many requests for donations.
By dirty harry
July 30, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
By CommunistAJC
Throw down?? Fist Fight?? Brawl??
That’s why I stay away from your neighborhood .. Who needs the aggravation?
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
dirty harry, I’ll show you a pop gun my naive cross burning foe. And no, I’ve never hit myself in the head with it. I only hit targets. Care to hold up a penny? I promise I will hit it. I may miss once but hey, you don’t feel pain right?
By dirty harry
July 30, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
DUSTY .. Your comments about Ted Stevens flying out of Burma, are well taken..But, I never said he was a coward which you imply.
Randy “DUKE” Cunningham was no coward either, but he certainly was a CROOK!
By george hussein washington
July 30, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
give me your address commieajc, I will visit one night…
By CommieParty
July 30, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this
CommunistAjc, we are happy to inform you that your application for membership has been accepted. Please report to the nearest life raft off the Florida keys for immediate departure to Cuba. Your brothers eagerly await your arrival in the sugar cane fields.
By dirty harry
July 30, 2008 4:47 PM | Link to this
COMMIE…Hit yourself in the head with what? your Pop Gun?
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
dirty harry, Please do stay out of my neighborhood. I’ll be sure to stay out of your trailer park.
By george hussein washington
July 30, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
Being a war hero doesn’t give anyone a free pass to be a G(od) D(amned) thief, you stinking repuke scum, may you all die screaming….
By Grading Wooten
July 30, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
Wooten rarely tries to define Conservatism, but today we get a rare insight into what conservatism isn’t: “Conservatism never meant fleecing taxpayers or trading pork for votes…”
From what we all know of Mr. Wooten and how his every utterance is party patois, then we can be sure that conservatism is exactly fleecing taxpayers and trading pork for votes.
Anyone who would use the term “quid pro quo” is irrelevant anyway. Is there anything worse than a poorly used cliche? This was about Alaska’s Senator, so shouldn’t it have been “squid pro quo?”
bwa. Match that, RW and the Trolls. Then lurkers’ll think that YOU’RE the genius instead of the strap-on dribble glasses your faces truly are…….ew.
double bwa.
By Mrs. Godzilla
July 30, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
Senate leaders start returning Stevens PAC money
If we could rely on GOP senators to be honest…..
By AJC/DNC Management
July 30, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
Meanwhile IsraelInsider.com, an anti-Obama site, has video that it interprets as showing “that the alleged pilferer” of Obama’s prayer note, “dressed in the garb of a seminary student, may in fact have been a member of Obama’s entourage.”
SHOCK VIDEO: THE MOMENT OBAMA PRAYER SNATCHED FROM WESTERN WALL…
His own man took the note.
Did RW mention that this guy is a dunce?
By dirty harry
July 30, 2008 4:58 PM | Link to this
COMMIE…Don’t tell me we are neighbors!
Are you the old drunk who staggers out of his unkempt rusting trailer every morning carrying a POP GUN?
If this is you, please stop throwing your empties all over the place!
Take a shower, and please brush what teeth you have left! You’ll feel better..I guarantee it!
By AmVet
July 30, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
All this Republican gum gnashing!
I can tell if it’s funny or just pitiful.
But the debate is over, boys and girls.
Republican Bloodbath, Part Deux. Coming to an election all over America this November.
Sweet…
By Grading Wooten
July 30, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
i think they should market a Burka Barbie, who wears the full burka outfit with the veil and scarf. Burka Barbie should come complete with moustache and suicide vest. We need to instill into our young girls that all muslim women are terrorists to ensure that we will destroy ourselves in pointless wars motivated by stereotypes and perpetual myths about Islamic people.
If God didn’t want us to fight armeggedon, he wouldn’t have invented Pat Robertson or any other conservative.
Iraq is a pointless war. Try to define the mission of US troops in Iraq. Go head, make my day.
zzzzz
By RW-(the original)
July 30, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
Note to Wright and Pfleger: Shove over and make room under the bus.
And moments later the crowd grew larger under that bus when Obambi decided this wasn’t the Ludacris he knew.
By Grading Wooten
July 30, 2008 5:30 PM | Link to this
I have a list of the IQs of all the dogs in the world. My dog is at or near the bottom of the list, as one of the dumbest dogs in the world.
I just threw a hotdog at him and it skidded off our second story deck and fell to the ground. He stood looking at it through the railings and couldn’t figure out to go down the stairs and retrieve the hot dog. What a dope, eh?
And then they say that dogs and owners end up very much alike. I wonder what that means.
As for Wooten and his dog: No public official or his dog should accept any gifts from any source even if it’s just a bone. Nixon once got a gift of a dog named Checkers. Simply by talking about that dog for a few minutes, Nixon rose more improbably in politics than Hitler did.
Dogs and politics. McCain could win if he could work in a dog.
Hear that Wooten? Work on a dog scenario for McCain. have an oil company exec give McCain an expensive but very ugly dog puppy. Then let it leak. Then have McCain make a short speech about how he just cant let go of the dog, no matter what, cause he’d rather lose the election than lose a dog.
Sally, Get Cruella DeVille on the phone!
By @@
July 30, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
Paul:
Thanks for the link. I didn’t see where it mentioned militants within the ISI. Am I to understand that the newly-elected government wants to protect the military against any suspicion? This one may be too complex for me. My head is spinning.
~~~~~~~~~~OO~~~~~~~~~
Pew Research is saying that there are four Middle Classes and that only 17%, women and minorities, appear to be in need of assistance. There was one group, The Anxious Middle: They enjoy some of the economic advantages of their Top of the Class brethren (58%), but their outlook on life is bleak. They add up to 23 percent.
Which category do the leftists fall into? The Anxious with a bleak outlook on life? How are we supposed to fix their outlook?
It sure doesn’t look like all four categories need Obama’s help.
~~~~~~~~~~~~OO~~~~~~~~~~
Its way past time to join the rest of the world.
Dang Getalife! Now you sound like Obama. I was wundrin’ if you can translate this for me. I offered my own “Refined version”, but want you to tell me what you think he’s sayin’.
Here’s what Obama said about it all:
“The staff was working this so I don’t know each and every detail but here is what I understand happened,”
Refined version: If I make a mistake, don’t hold me accountable.
*Obama told ABC News. “We had scheduled to go, we had no problem at all in leaving, we always leave press and staff off — that is why we left it off the schedule. We were treating it in the same way we treat a visit to Walter Reed which I was able to do a few weeks ago without any fanfare whatsoever.
Refined version: I can’t repeat what I was able to do before - kinda like my pandering to the left during the primaries. I can’t do that again now that I’m their nominee.
I was going to be accompanied by one of my advisors, a former military officer (Gration).”
Refined version: I could have left him behind too, but it’s just so darn convenient to have him as a useful tool to justify my failures.
“And we got notice that he would be treated as a campaign person, and it would therefore be perceived as political because he had endorsed my candidacy but he wasn’t on the Senate staff.
Refined version: As I’ve said before….
That triggered then a concern that maybe our visit was going to be perceived as political.
Refined version: “Maybes” work well for me so let’s see if my supporters will buy another one.
And the last thing that I want to do is have injured soldiers and the staff at these wonderful institutions having to sort through whether this is political or not or get caught in the crossfire between campaigns.”
Refined version: Did I mention that advisor to my campaign, the military guy? I didn’t wanna see him injured.
“So rather than go forward and potentially get caught up in what might have been considered a political controversy of some sort,” Obama said, “what we decided was that we not make a visit and instead I would call some of the troops that were there. So that essentially would be the extent of the story.”
Refined version: Didn’t want my political aspirations to get caught up in controversy just so a bunch of injured troops could witness my “mighty” potential. Did I mention I called the troops?
The only people I’ve ever seen accuse someone of exploiting the troops are the leftists who have hurled accusations against Bush. I know they wouldn’t have launched accusations against Obama, and I’m certain McCain wouldn’t have.
More Obama BS.
By CommunistAJC
July 30, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
dirty harry, I recycle my bottles. If I wanted to throw my bottles in your yard I’d make sure I aimed it at your head.
AmVet, You think the GOP is bad? My comrade you haven’t seen anything yet. Just wait until Obama Hussein makes health care worse than the DMV. Keep drinking the kool aid.
By Taxpayer
July 30, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this
At the risk of sounding like a repetitious, watered-down, board whiner, I just feel compelled to say that listening to these compassionate conservative Republican’s versions of the truth can sure leave one all choked up and even breathless at times. It’s torture, I say. Pure torture listening to Cheney’s puppet — Bush on a Stick [tm].
By AmVet
July 30, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this
ANYBODY (including Duhng’s cousins) who are still hung up on commies are so laughably stupid.
Wake up and smell the petrochemicals, Senator McCarthy!
Call yourself something relevant like SandyAJC.
It won’t help sell your “quaint” ideas but at least people won’t laugh at loud at you.
I think I understand why none of these dorks can muster up the courage to admit they are looking square in the face of yet another humiliating defeat this November.
What they can’t or won’t understand, they deny…
01-20-09 The End of an Error
By dirty harry
July 30, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this
By CommunistAJC..
Yea, I remember you throwing that bottle of rut gut at my head! You threw like a little girl….
I was referring to your PBR empties…Now take your pop gun, and trike into your trailer…Mommy has probably got some Dinty Moore stew brewing on the stove.
Later Hopalong!
By Grading Wooten
July 30, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this
I have a list of the IQs of all the dogs in the world. My dog is at or near the bottom of the list, as one of the dumbest dogs in the world.
I just threw a hotdog at him and it skidded off our second story deck and fell to the ground. He stood looking at it through the railings and couldn’t figure out to go down the stairs and retrieve the hot dog. What a dope, eh?
And then they say that dogs and owners end up very much alike. I wonder what that means.
As for Wooten and his dog: No public official or his dog should accept any gifts from any source even if it’s just a bone. Nixon once got a gift of a dog named Checkers. Simply by talking about that dog for a few minutes, Nixon rose more improbably in politics than Hitler did.
Dogs and politics. McCain could win if he could work in a dog.
Hear that Wooten? Work on a dog scenario for McCain. have an oil company exec give McCain an expensive but very ugly dog puppy. Then let it leak. Then have McCain make a short speech about how he just cant let go of the dog, no matter what, cause he’d rather lose the election than lose a kur.
By Ahem
July 30, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this
U.S. News & World Report - Stay tuned, friends, because this, too, could change. The cracks are growing in the Democratic unity dam. and McCain may be on the verge of getting his act together. Sen. Barack Obama needs to step off his “holier than thou” platform and get his designer shoes dirty. He needs to let voters catch a glimpse of the regular guy who may actually lurk under his veneer of superiority. From using a logo resembling a presidential seal at one speech earlier this year (an obvious error and never seen again) to addressing a crowd of 200,000 in Berlin and meeting with heads of state before he has reason to, Obama’s puerile self-absorption may backfire on him and turn off the very voters he needs to turn on: the white working class.
This race is still the Democrats’ to lose. But by going overboard on unity and turning unity to hubris, they can still easily lose it.
Too late! Obama doesn’t know how to be anything but an arrogant b*******. Barack H. Obama. The “H” stands for Hubris.
Indeed, according to Gallup and Rasmussen Reports daily tracking polls, Obama’s European trip poll bounce dwindled almost immediately to pretrip levels.
By Paul
July 30, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this
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The “militants” part of Pakistan’s ISI was a given. I’m not sure it’s “protecting” the military as much as it is other factors - and I wouldn’t be surprised that the briefs from SecDef Gates and Adm Fallon had something to do with it. They have militants and sympathizers in many agencies. As the article noted, much may be internal, mid-to-higher level politics.
Nice point about sovereignty. I’m wondering when our inquiring press corps is going to press Obama on what this means given his past unilateralist (dare I say “cowboy”?) declarations regarding attacking in Pakistan.
By Bud Wiser
July 31, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this
The Dimwitocrats are voting for Obama because they…
… think Cuba and China should be able to drill for oil 50 miles from our shores, but we shouldn’t be able to drill for it 100 miles from our shores. I’m worried that some might spill, even though during Katrina not one drop was leaked from over 3200 wells off the shore of Louisiana, or any on-shore storage tanks. It could happen. Maybe.
…think nuclear power is bad even though France gets 80% of its electricity that way, we have 104 plants operating now that have never had a single death associated with them, the fuel is totally renewable, a kilowatt hour can be produced cheaper than any other way, and there are no atmospheric emissions. Okay, that’s all good, but the problem is, some company might make money and employ people, and I’m against that.
…think we shouldn’t be using oil anyway. We should fly our airplanes with fermented woodchips. Wait a minute…that would mean we have to cut down trees. Okay, no flying.
…think killing unborn, innocent babies is fine, and euthanizing old, sick people is fine, but executing convicted guilty murderers is not. Instead, they should have cable, a gym, a library, and full medical care….
…think we should ignore the fact that adult stem cells are involved in over 90 current cures and treatments, but embryonic stem cells have yet to be effective in even one. It doesn’t matter, we need to destroy those embryos.
…think showing my generosity by taking one person’s money from him so I can give it to another person who didn’t earn it, is better than me giving my own money. I’m really generous with other peoples’ money.
…think the government is too small, and we shouldn’t let people take care of themselves. They don’t really know what’s good for them. The government should be making these decisions.
…think that being allowed to keep more of my own money is a disincentive for me to go out and earn more.
…think the top 1% income bracket paying 37% of the taxes isn’t enough. And, the top 5% paying over 57% isn’t enough. It’s not fair that these people get to keep some of their money. They should pay their “fair share” even though I’m not sure what that would be.
…think we should have judges who make up the laws they want, and not be bothered by silly ideas of having elected representatives make laws, or paying attention to what the Constitution actually says, not what they want it to say.
…think being a US citizen shouldn’t really mean anything and we should give all our Constitutional rights to anyone who wants them - even our enemies. Oops, I didn’t mean we actually have enemies; they’re just people we did something to upset, and we just don’t understand them correctly.
…think if we just played patty-cake with Ahmadinejad and got to know him, he wouldn’t think we’re the Great Satan anymore, and we could be friends. Oh, and I also believed Kim Jong Il when he said they weren’t making nukes. After all, Jimmy Carter agreed with him.
…don’t think anything is really worth fighting for, especially America, because we’re the whole reason there are problems in the world anyway.
…am not interested in people being free. I just want the French, Germans, as well as most of Africa, and the UN, to like us. Also, I really NEED someone to make big decisions for me since I went to public school, and all the big shot Democrats went to Harvard.
…don’t think the laws of supply and demand are real. I think that’s all just a big Republican conspiracy.
…am worried about global warming, even though the Earth has been cooling for 8 yrs, the south polar ice cap is growing faster than the north pole’s ice is shrinking, and there is a direct correlation between the change in the Earth’s surface temperature and sun spot activity. That stuff doesn’t matter, what matters is we need to get rid of SUVs. Oh, and I also know CO2 is a pollutant, even though it’s natural and trees need to ingest it to live. Al Gore’s my hero.
…believe that NAFTA is bad, even though all the trading partners have had an enhanced standard of living, unemployment is down in all three countries, and average wages are up. But, the AFL-CIO is against it, so I am too.
…don’t think a parent has any business deciding how his child will be educated. This is a job better left to the federal Education Dept. and the teacher’s unions.
…don’t think anyone should be able to voluntarily put a small bit of his social security into an account that he actually owns and controls. If the -2% return the government is getting you on your social security isn’t enough for you, you’re just greedy.
…think welfare is great, and if someone doesn’t want to work, even though they can, why should we make them? Instead, we can just take someone else’s income, and give it to them because it would be cruel to make them work when they don’t want to.
…want socialized medicine, because that way everyone gets the same level of care, and so what if you have to wait three years to get your hip replaced. You don’t need to walk anyway….you can go on welfare!
…think Bush lied about Iraq even though every intelligence agency in the world said the same thing our CIA did, and all the major Democrats saw the same data and also said the same thing, and they all voted for it. Oh, and we just did it for oil, even though we’re still waiting for that cheap oil….
…wonder how anyone could you vote Republican? They’re mean. I mean, they want old people to die, they want the environment so polluted even they couldn’t live in it, and they just want to kill people in wars because they like war so much. This is all good for them because….. uh, because… they…. well, it doesn’t matter - it’s just good for them.
…am for change, and Obama’s for change, and if you’re not changing, you’re staying the same. And Obama’s for the future, and I want to be in the future, because if you aren’t in the future, that’s just so “now”, and I don’t want to be “now”, I want to be in the future. Oh, and I also want hope, and Obama’s for hope, and I hope his hope is hopeful for America. So, I want the hope that in the future there will be change, and that’s what Obama says he wants too. (I hope.)
Well, enough said. The moronic left is up on their feet cheering by now, so this is for the rest of us…..does it scare you that there are actually people out there that believe this crap? Be scared my friend, and be sure to help at least 3 others to the polls on election day, or take them to the voting office to register, or to vote absentee, just get them out there to VOTE, and VOTE REPUBLICAN!
Encourage your friends to try to help others also. I am going to the local retirement home near where I live and volunteer to take Republican voters to the polls.
Here’s some more Democrat reasoning hard at welfare, er, uh, I mean work…..
I’m voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.
I’m voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.
I’m voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I trust that the bad guys will stop what they’re doing because they now think we’re good people.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that people who can’t tell us if it will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don’t start driving a Prius.
I’m voting Democrat because I’m not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for redistribution as THEY see fit.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe three or four pointy headed elitist liberals need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would NEVER get their agendas past the voters.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists don’t have to hide from us over there, they’ll come over here, and I don’t want to have any guns in the house to shoot them with.
I’m voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. I’ve decided to marry my horse.
I’m voting Democrat because I believe oil companies’ profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% is okay.
By JDavid
July 31, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
What...No mention of Florida's untra liberal congressman Henry Wexler's sweet-heart deal, in the AJC or other left-wing media. Wexler has(3) kids & has been claiming an adults only Florida community..his in-laws houseas his house.. Wexler has no official Florida resident, yet he illegally represents the district where his in-laws live. The liberal Media ignores the Democrats transgressions. What else is NEWS.By JDavid
July 31, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
What...No mention of Florida's untra liberal congressman Henry Wexler's sweet-heart deal, in the AJC or other left-wing media. Wexler has(3) kids & has been claiming an adults only Florida community..his in-laws house as his residence. Wexler has no official Florida resident, yet he illegally represents the district where his in-laws live. The liberal Media ignores the Democrats transgressions. What else is NEWS.