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Guns at the airport?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Two reminders from the morning’s news that America has become not so much a nation of laws as a nation of laws (*that we choose to consider binding).
One reminder comes from the editorial page in a letter supporting the decision by Atlanta city officials to arrest State Rep. Tim Bearden had he attempted to carry a concealed weapon into the airport, as he vowed to do. Upon threat of arrest, he backed down — and instead opted to pursue the right, contained in a new state law he authored through the courts. Like the good conservative, he opted not to create a spectacle, but to assert the rule of law through the proper channels.
The reaction of one of today’s letter-writers, Vincent Kelly of Atlanta, was to support the decision by Mayor Shirley Franklin and airport General Manager Ben DeCosta to ignore the state law. Wrote Kelly: “As Georgia lawmakers have proven time and again, new law crafted in the heat of passion is made to be broken…”
That’s some variant of the city’s position. Presumably, because the mayor and others disagree with the the law that allows individuals with legal permits to carry guns to take them into the airport.
There’s a distinction here. Nobody can carry guns or other weapons past the security check-point. But the city is a creation of the state and the state does have a perfect right to designate where guns are permitted within its jurisdiction, including the land within cities. At the airport, the feds control one space — a space the state is not allowed to regulate with its laws — and the state, through its creation, the City of Atlanta, controls another.
The mayor and local officials disagree with the law. They therefore believe that it’s OK to ignore it, to question its legitimacy and its need, and to arrest the author if he attempts to exercise his rights under the law.
A nation of laws? *Yes (if we like them and choose to allow them to apply to us).




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Comments
By Redneck Convert
July 2, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
Well, I was all set to go down there in my F-450 with my double-barrel to back old Bearden up. But then I realized with payday not ‘til Thursday I couldn’t afford the diesel to go. So, I went took my shotgun over to the Lanierland grass airstrip here in Forsyth County, but the manager Joe Ed just grabbed his rifle and we wandered off into the woods and shot some squirrels. Nobody came and arrested us neither. Seems like that Buckhead fellow ought to move up here. Got to go deliver some beer for the next DOT board retreat. Probably have to make two trips. Have a good day everybody.
By deegee
July 2, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
“Like the good conservative, he opted not to create a spectacle”
HAHAHAHA! That was hilarious. Like the good conservative he created a news event, not a spectacle. HAHAHAHAHAHA!
By RCH
July 2, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
First,lets not debate if someone should be able to carry a concealed weapon. That is over with and is not the subject at hand.
The debate is should a public official violate the law AND take away the right of another.Mayor Franklin has done both of those.It is not the first time she has challenged local gun laws losing both previous cases.Just as before she stated that she had consulted with city attorneys and that they had agreed with her position. Are these the same type of individuals that had advised her on the city budget?LOL Once again the city of Atlanta will lose and pay. Once again the taxpayer will shoulder the burden.
If mayor Franklin wants to push her own political agenda that is fine but do not use my tax money to do so. If you believe so strongly in your position,put up your own money.
It would have been wiser to follow the current law and then appealed to Congress to enact a Federal law governing airports.Guess you had to grandstand.How much will this cost us?
By BFKaJ
July 2, 2008 9:33 AM | Link to this
Good morning all. I think the city misreads its powers.
I approve of the Supreme Court ruling last week (conservatives + Kennedy). The ruling, opinion by Scalia, found the 2nd Amendment provides individual rights. I think any plain language reading (of the second through the eighth amendments) lists specific individual rights that the Federal government may not abridge. (Careful use of language required here: the Constitution does not “grant” rights, it merely acknowledges those rights that exist in nature. As a stray thought, I note a theoretical limitation in my argument, that the unrelated 1st amendment does not preserve individual rights, but rather merely restricts potential actions by Congress.)
The relevant portion of language from the 14th Amendment: “No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States.” To the extent that the Constitution acknowledges specific “privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States,” I think no state may thereafter restrict. As the 2nd amendment is one that holds such privileges, the State of Georgia may not abridge those privileges.
The State of Georgia, hereafter referred to as Dr. Frankenstein, is the creator of the City of Atlanta. The State of Georgia is unable to confer, to a sub-government entity, any power it does not hold itself. The City of Atlanta is thus constrained in the same way as the State of Georgia.
Totally unrelated, the Monday afternoon HIDT posts are greatly amusing. I wish I had his humor.
By findog
July 2, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
Dear Jim, Do I understand your point that a local community cannot have stricter standards than the state?
That Kennesaw was in violation of this principal when they passed a law requiring gun ownership?
This is another red meat waste of time and money our court system could use to properly prosecute illegal activity.
By Redneck Convert
July 2, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
Well, I see that other Redneck Convert done beat me to the punch again today. Even driving my Ford 450. Anyhow, I think that guy ought to walk in to that airport with a big 44 on his hip and just dare any of Those People that got the police jobs to take it from him. Then he could sidle up to a bar kind of cool like and have him a PBR while he’s eying people over.
Its only a matter of time till the shootouts begin anyway all over the place in this state. Some good old boy will take a dislike to something somebody says or does in a bar or restaurant and the bullets will start flying. We’ll be able to settle things ourselfs and cut down on the number of police we have to pay out of our taxes.
Anyhow, somebody has to stand up for our Right to Bare Arms. I might could bring my two machine guns and the anti-tank weapon to help the guy at the showdown but I expect people wouldn’t be happy without enough beer to sellabrate the 4th of July. So I’ll just stay around and haul the beer in to the bars and stores.
To tell the truth, it kind of scares the willys out of me that some of the people on this blog will be able to slip a pistol into their breeches or dresses and walk around all over the place. I bet Sister Dusty could hide a howitzer in that size 34 dress she wears. I sure hope Wooten ain’t giving out addresses of people.
Have a good day everybody.
By Atlanta Police Department
July 2, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
This is the APD putting out an APB for the real Redneck Convert. If our evidence is correct (and it is) he has not posted on this blog since June 25, something about cooking with lard in Southren (sic) recipes. We have searched everywhere, including all of his wife’s crevices with so success. If anyone should see the real Redneck Convert, please contact the APD, or his mama.
By James
July 2, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this
Last year Georgia lawmakers passed legislation ensuring only the state could regulate firearms to prevent confusing city and county ordinances. This year they provided licensed hangun owners additional common sense latitude regarding where they could carry. However, Mayor Franklin and Mr. DeCosta seem to be the ones lacking common sense as well as candor. Why didn’t they declare all airport property outside the checkpoints a “gun free zone” last week? TSA regulations allow you to take your firearm to a check-in-counter, fill out the proper form and place it unloaded in locked checked luggage. The ammo can even be kept in its magazine. How does that constitute a “gun free zone” when it takes about two seconds to load that weapon. This is grandstanding pure and simple.
By Peter
July 2, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this
Gosh it would take a Right Winger to make an issue of carrying a gun into the airport, and a silly Jim Whooten to write about it.
Good Job Jim, now where is Bin Ladden, the guy that threatens America each day he is alive?
Where is Bin Ladden the Guy who should be brought to justice for the Killing of Americans, and the destruction of American Buildings and Jets?
Gee Jim, why don’t you write about this MAJOR ISSUE ?
By dusty
July 2, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
By Redneck Convert
July 2, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
REDNECK…Excuse me! I’m down to a size 32…
Want to come over for some pie?
Fresh from my lime groves!
NOONISH?
By Atlanta Police Department
July 2, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this
In the words of Emily Latella, “Never mind.” Welcome back, Red.
By TW
July 2, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
So, this is republican world, eh?
Economy - F
Foreign Policy - F
Security - F (D- if you want to count that we’ve not been attacked by aliens from Zoltar - good job on that, ‘w’)
Somebody tell Hannity his America sucks. The old one was much better.
By Senator Craig (REPUBLICAN)
July 2, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
Right you are Jim. Us conservatives would never ever make a spectacle at an airport. At least not intentionally.
Once at an airport I was in a mens room stall at this young stud playfully asked me “Is that a gun in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?”
I thought of course he was joking! The next thing I knew I was being arrested. I was humiliated.
My constitutional rights were definitely violated. I was violated. In this country you don’t even have the right to bear false arms! Outrageous!
Next time some stud at an airport bathroom asks its a banana in my pocket, not a gun!
I’m not going through this again! Us conservatives don’t make spectacles at airports!!!!
By GayGrayGeek
July 2, 2008 10:09 AM | Link to this
Peter @ 9:47 - Jim is being a Good Little RepubliKKKan Shill by trying to distract everyone’s attention away from the abject failures of the past 8 years of RepubliKKKan rule.
You know, like the failure to find Bin Laden. Like “Mission Accomplished”. Like “Heckuva job, Brownie”. Like Bear Stearns. Like Abu Ghirab. Like…Like…Like…
Of course, his target audience is the typical Georgia cracker whose IQ is less than the gas mileage of their pick-em-up truck.
By Groovy McSmoothy
July 2, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
“Anyhow, I think that guy ought to walk in to that airport with a big 44 on his hip and just dare any of Those People that got the police jobs to take it from him. Then he could sidle up to a bar kind of cool like and have him a PBR while he’s eying people over.”
Wow, real Redneck, what pretty word pictures! Cool.
By getalife
July 2, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
The rep. that started this has backed down. You can’t bring them on a plane but with the feds in charge, I can see why he brought it up.
A nation of laws? *Yes (if we like them and choose to allow them to apply to us).
Finally, jim spews the truth about his party.
By BFKaJ
July 2, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Dear TW @ 10:04, I respectfully score it differently.
Economy Foreign Policy Security2001 D A F 2002 C A A 2003 B A A 2004 A B A 2005 A B A 2006 B B A 2007 C* A A 2008ytd C* A A
By GayGrayGeek
July 2, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
getalife @ 10:14 - You have to remember that, in the RepubliKKKan Fantasy World where Jim/Dusty/Esquire live, laws apply only to Those People and most certainly not to People Like Us!
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
TW, You’re an idiot. The DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN IN CHARGE FOR TWO YEARS NOW. Hmmmm. Let’s think for a moment shall we. Before those morons were elected, gas was lower, the economy was great and WE STILL HAVE NOT BEEN ATTACKED. But then again, brainless idiots like you will never learn.
By Groovy McSmoothy
July 2, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this
“Of course, his target audience is the typical Georgia cracker whose IQ is less than the gas mileage of their pick-em-up truck.”
Your gray gay dudeness, in case you haven’t noticed this Web site is based in Georgia. Your ‘tude is not cool, dude.
By Tom Ga Hunter
July 2, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
Be happy that the City of Atlanta does not have any bigger problems.. I understand they are thinking of merging with Clayton County.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
GayGrayGeek, Just a reminder to you and every other socialist. THE DEMOCRAT PARTY HAS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE KKK. The democrat party was in control during the civil rights era in the south. People like you are hopeless, mindless losers hell bent on menstruating all the USA.
By GayGrayGeek
July 2, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
Groovy, I moved to Georgia in 1984. Over the years I’ve lived in three of the Big Four metro Atlanta counties - Cobb, Fulton, and Dekalb - missing only Gwinnett. I’m fully aware of where the blog is based as well as, thanks to the constant examples provided by Dusty and BFKaJ akd jbmlaw, the factualness of my IQ comparison concerning Jim’s target audience.
By Maniac is accurate
July 2, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Boy I hope those DOT babes will do a pictorial spread in Georgia Trend! I’m just dying to find out what got Garland’s Pin jumping out of its Holster.
By Dennis
July 2, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Mr. Wooten writes, “A nation of laws? *Yes (if we like them and choose to allow them to apply to us).”
Mr. Wooten, why are you as silent as can be when George W. Bush breaks the law illegally spying on Americans?
You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.
By TW
July 2, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
Somebody also tell the sh!t float veterans that McSame’s abortion of a military record makes Kerry look like MacArthur.
But being that the last guy the GOP put up hid underneath his daddy’s bed during Viet Nam, I guess McSame is a step up.
The rightwing was so much better when it was tough. Before it dropped to it’s knees for big oil…or was it the wide stance?
By dirty harry
July 2, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
CommunistAJC .. Do you not Understand it takes a certain majority in the senate to pass anything meaninful 60 votes…The democrats “WHO ARE IN CHARGE” only have 51, and then the president can veto anything he doesn’t like or support!
The republican obstructionists who vote in lockstep with this incompetent, failed presidency are at fault, and if you don’t see it you are the “IDIOT!”
By Groovy McSmoothy
July 2, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Holy cow, dude, I think I know you. Are you Warren who used to work at Carrier? Dude, I’m not gay, not that there would anything wrong with that.
By @@
July 2, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Well one thing’s for sure and certain Jim….
Obama will be bringin’ his gun half-cocked.
By ron
July 2, 2008 10:46 AM | Link to this
Good morning,I find that gun laws are written in terms that are easily understood,thus I have no problem figuring out where I can carry.Others seem to have a problem,and it’s a large problem.It starts in the Supreme Court. As I see it,we the people loaned the government the power to govern.So doing,we kept aside certain rights for ourselves in a bill of rights.Five justices on the Court understand this and four don’t.These four would usurp the rights of the citizens and turn them over to government.Like in Zimbabwe.We kept these rights aside so we can’t wind up like Zimbabwe.
The people that penned the Constitution and The Bill of Rights were very wise people.They knew the King was soverign and they made sure that the government of the United wasn’t.
Mayor Franklin and others of her ilk need to realize that the people are the ones with the real power.Hers is only on loan and may be rescinded at any time.
By fearless fosdik
July 2, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
I’m going to ask you a rhetorical question who might this active KKK member be .. If you say Robert Byrd you are dead wrong! He was at one time..But denounced his association a long, long time ago….
During the civil rights era..who was a democrat down here in the south? Oh, did you say Strom Thurmond? Soon to be a republican. The “Old Jim Crow South” Many if not most the most racist scum this planet has ever seen…Including Richard Russell.
By Dusty
July 2, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
Awww shoot!!! I think jbm is reminding us that the city does not have more power than the state and the state has less than the Federal government.(Lawyers and their ‘plain’ language!) And others remind us that Mayor Franklin is going to spend a lot of money to learn all that. Maybe she will read this blog.
And…I may shoot RedNeck II with a howitzer, BB gun or sling shot if he throws off on Georgia one more time. Of course I don’t have any weapons and don’t wear a size 34 dress.(Redneck thinks everyone looks like his wife.) But it is a nice thought. To shoot him, that is.
(Oops there goes the telephone.)
jbm, which one is your humorous buddy HIDT?? I can’t tell. He has so many IDs. Hmmm.. Jene sais pas?
By Abundant Pundit
July 2, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this
The new concealed weapon law is clear: a gun holder may occupy any public or private space anywhere in the state of Georgia with only one restriction: open mike nights at comedy clubs, (never mug on stage, drunks with concealed weapons get itchy trigger fingers).
The honorable Mr. Bearden should have allowed himself to be arrested. He obviously would have won, and then he could sue those responsible for his illegal detain, which would then protect the rights of all Georgians from gun prohibition advocates, (and other girlie-men).
I’m a 47 year member of the NRA. Most of my life’s highlights were with my old .22, a farm in New York, and those pesky woodchucks. Concealed weapon laws are a necessary evolution of the original amendment about militias. Criminals should have a doubt about who might get the drop on them during a mugging. People are not madmen, but some of us pray for one clean shot at armed robbers. (Amen.)
Conservatism 08: not a hand-out, but a handgun.
By getalife
July 2, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
commie,
There was another unsolved anthrax attack. The person of interest got a huge payday out of it.
By Just Nasty and Mean
July 2, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
G’mornin Jim, et al,
Seems to me Shirley Franklin is trying to distract from the complete and utter debacle the city of Atlanta is, and chooses to focus on a non-issue rather than getting the city out of a gianormous ditch she has driven the city into .
Shirley—you’re going to lose this argument and will do nothing but pee away scarce cash the city needs to fund all the wasteful BS you have introduced.
Shirley~~Do your job and quit wasting time on losing issues.
oh, and Ben DeCosta—don;t you have some billion dollar budget overrun for the runway and international terminal to deal with at the airport?
Oh, Why worry. The taxpayers will pick it up!
**City of Atlanta, MARTA, Clayton County, Lithonia, East Point, Fulton County, Grady——
—-Anybody see anything in common here?**
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
fearless fosdik, George Wallace and Bull Conor ring a bell? Huh? Those two were responsible for the hose sprayings in Alabama. Robert Byrd says the “N” word on national tv and has said it multiple times. And yes, he was the GRAND WIZARD. Please name a current GOP member who has ever been associated with the KKK. I can also name many black racists in your Democrat party. Obama being one of them.
dirty harry, Sure buddy. Keep telling yourself that. Also, what happened to Princess Nancy pulling out the troops? No, youre the idiot my mindless comrade.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this
getalife, Would that be teddy kennedy? oh wait, he killed his girlfriend. my bad. Must have been John F. Kerry who served in Vietnam.
By Austell
July 2, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
Here’s your chance to make a statement Abundant Pundit.
Take your gun to the airport and get arrested. Since you will win no problem. I think you probably are like most Republicans though. You want other people to do your fighting. You do your best work blogging. Keyboard warriors!
Come on Republican gun nuts! Show Jackson-Hartsfield your guns!! Come on Girlie men. Show us your big big guns!!! Show us your nuts.
Chickens
By MamaS
July 2, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
I wish he had gone to the airport and gotten arrested. I would like to be on a jury that sentenced him to the maximum possible time. If our Governor had a spine he would have vetoed that bill shen it came to his desk. But, I guess you can make more money bowing to the NRA than protecting the citizens of Georgia. The first time I am in McDonald’s with my grandson and see some redneck with his gun in his holster strolling in for a Big Mac I am walking out AND telling the manager why I will not eat there again. The ONLY people who should have guns in restaurants, movies, etc. are law enforcement officers and security guards. This law IN NO WAY MAKES LIFE SAFER! How long before some Bubba walks into the bank with his 44 and gets shot by a security guard who thinks he is trying to rob it? And how long before some bank robber walks in openly with a gun and the security guard does nothing because he thinks the guard is a “legal gun-toting customer”?
By "Charles," The Original
July 2, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
I think Jim Wooten hit the nail on the head. …”But the city is a creation of the state and the state does have a perfect right to designate where guns are permitted within its jurisdiction, including the land within cities. At the airport, the feds control one space —a space the state is not allowed to regulate with its laws — and the state, through its creation, the City of Atlanta, controls another…”
There is not much to question in this article. But if you don’t understand the Declaration of Independence and Constitution of the United States, there may be challenges.
Why are some politicians apprehensive of citizens possessing and carrying guns? I can think of only one legitimate reason. And it’s rooted firmly in the fabric of American History:
“…In 1773 the Tea Act placed a small tax on tea. The colonists were incensed that government claimed the power to tax tea. The Boston Tea Party was a direct challenge to the King’s authority to tax any item he pleased.
King George retaliated against the rebellious colonies in 1774 with the “Intolerable Acts.” The government began to fortify Boston and seized ammunition from the militia. In response, the colonists convened the First Continental Congress, and local militia throughout the colonies formed “the minutemen,” those men willing and able to be ready at a minute’s notice.
Shortly before midnight on April 18, 1775, Paul Revere and William Dawes rode from Boston through the countryside to warn the minutemen that government troops were on the way to seize guns and ammunition in Concord. The colonies would not allow their God-given right to keep and bear arms be trampled, and at daybreak the “shot heard ‘round the world” rang out…”
Indulge me to make myself crystal clear. If and when the New World Order Crowd assisted by the so-called educated integrationist Negroes overtly rears its ugly head with tyranny, I want the minute men, patriots, heavily armed, locked and loaded, ready to preserve and defend this nation as the forefathers had done, July 4, 1776.
By Gunsmoker
July 2, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
You lib-tards need therapy.
The way you drag the Bush Administration into this news article about a local mayor defying a state law and exceeding her powers under a state constitution, it shows you’re irrationally angry and delusional.
By Sweet Home Colorado
July 2, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
Denver’s City Council president is getting hammered with hate-filled messages in response to Tuesday’s surprise performance of the “Black National Anthem” by a jazz singer during a city event.
Her performance evoked angry reactions among some of the estimated 700 people at the event.
“There is no substitute for the national anthem. Period,” Councilman Charlie Brown said.
Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us,
Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us;
Facing the rising sun of our new day begun,
Let us march on till victory is won.
Bye Bye Obama
By fearless fosdik
July 2, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
CommunistAJC..Yes. You can add George Wallace, and Bull Conor and a whole host of bigots to your list. Today they would be republicans! I believe in my post I said racist scum. We are in the south you know? Remember Selma, Alabama?
Why do you think when it comes to the sentate the south votes strictly REPUBLICAN? GA, SC, AL, MS, NC, KY, TN…
Not one democrat in the bunch…RIGHT?
By Dusty
July 2, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
Just to keep the record straight..ID Thief @9:50 ..Not real Dusty,,,,sigh…
Other liberal crazies:
TW@10:36 Tell sh!t vote veterans that McSame’s abortion of a military record makes Kerry look like McArthur..
dirty hairy@10:38 Blah blah repubs blah blah lockstep blah blah obstrctionists blah blah
fearless fosdick@10:49 Oh, did you say Strom Thurmond? Soon to be a Republican.
Strom is dead, honey. How about you?
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
Sweet Home Colorado, Saw that this morning. Democrats have made this race about race. It’s what they do. Divide the country and win power. I wonder how Hussien Obama will handle this one. Blacks are the ones who are racists in this country. Not the other way around.
By Maniac is accurate
July 2, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
From NCIS last night, the scene is Tony and Ziva out on assignment. She is driving and Tony is looking at something on a laptop. Ziva looks over and almost wrecks the car. Tony: Ziva, keep your eyes on the road. Ziva: I have great peripheral vision. Tony: My scphincter doesn’t.
Great writing.
By Get Real
July 2, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
This has to be the dumbest bill ever written. You can take a gun into a restaurant that serves alcohol, but you just can’t drink it. Who does that? It will do nothing but cause more violence with renegade rednecks thinking they’r the Keystone cops. Do restaurants have any say in this? I don’t want some guy sitting next to my FAMILY at a restaurant with a load .45, gets mad because his order wasn’t right and shoots up the joint.
Or better yet, what will you Repugs do when a bunch of BLACK people come in with the LEGALLY concealed weapons, LOL!!!! I see you’re looking at it differently now!
By Abundant Pundit
July 2, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
There is a new DVD out at Blockbuster, “In Bruges”. It’s about a new hitman who accidently kills a child in a church during a hit on a priest. The movie suggests that there are a clique of hitmen who would rather commit suicide than kill a child. The entire movies character motivation, plot and denouement rest on that premise. The movie has the requisite shootout at the OK corral ending, (which has been the ending of every movie ever made, and which makes me wish the old west had never happened).
The movie has comedy, but it’s that dry comedy of Irish and British conterpoint over a ridiculously obscure point of contention. “What? He doesn’t like swans? What’s there not to like about swans? Swans are beautiful, arent’ they? Well alright then. He loves swans. Say it. Say he loves swans. He should love swans. He’s right to loves swans. That’s settled isnt’ it? Good, Now whack him.”
That sort of dialogue distracts the audience from the premise. These are cold blooded killers who think they’re living moral lives because all but a few of their victims were bad guys anyway.
The point here is that they used handguns, and ran around openly firing their weapons in the streets of Bruges, Belgium with no police in sight. Deliberating Assemblymen should never be allowed to see this movie when they vote about concealed weapons laws. They would vote no, and then attach a rider that prohibited the director of “In Bruges” from ever standing behind a camera again.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
earless fosdik, Can you read? I just posted that Bull Conor(D) and George Wallace(D) were responsible for Selma. Now, what republicans have hosed down or hung black people in the past 30 years? Not one democrat in the bunch in southern states? There are plenty of them. Hell, LA was run by Democrats for the last 40 years and look what happened to them! Liberal bastion of crap like Ray Nagin. Hell, the city of Atlanta is run by democrats. You’re living in the 1960’s buddy. This is 2008. You’re little racist rant has long since died out but hey, morons like you still believe that 911 was an inside job. Have fun with the alien anal probing.
By GayGrayGeek
July 2, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
Commie - some of us are living in the 21st century, not the 1960. Do please catch up to the grown-ups…
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
Communist AJC @ 11:28, yeah blacks are the real racists. We enslaved whites for hundreds of years. Even went to war to perserve slavery. Once that ended we didn’t want whites to have any rights so we invented Jim Crow laws. Whites couldn’t vote, couldn’t own decent homes in black neighborhoods, had to step off the sidewalk when a black woman passed, and were even lynched. You heard about the white couple that was lynched 46 years ago and the Feds are just started looking into it yesterday? The whites eventually came up with their own songs because the National Anthem the blacks sang didn’t include them. Even in the Constitution, whites are considered 3/5ths a person. Look it up. Whites just got their Civil Rights in 1964.
Nowadays whites are discriminated against in favor of blacks for jobs. Most white men are in prison and never went to college. The black thugs have planes that fly to S. America to get cocaine and heroin to sell in the white neighborhoods. Whites don’t own any planes or large boats, but they sell the drugs and make the blacks rich. Most whites can’t even drive through Forsyth County after dark or they may be pulled over by the racist black cops.
Blacks have all the advantages of being legacies, so they get into UGA and Tech no problem. Blacks are the racists not whites. Yeah right!!
By Taxpayer
July 2, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
Well, you see, your honor, it happened like this. I was just standing in line minding my own business like any other day. Then, out of the corner of my eye, I caught a glimpse of what looked just like an AK-47. I know now that it wasn’t but it sure looked real enough then. Anyway, I instinctively…
OBJECTION. Your honor, we’ve already established that the defendant has never been an Officer of the Law and has no so-called instinct to rely on…Sustained.
Mr. “I know my Rights,” You may proceed.
Anyway, I drew my Glock while simultaneously pivoting in the direction of the perp, I mean, in the direction of the gun that I thought I saw. It was then that some ABSOLUTE IDIOT in the crowd just yelled out “HE’S GOT A GUN” and everyone just started going crazy. Of course, my reaction was that the AK-47 was spotted by others and they all just got scared. Little did I know at the time.
That’s OK. That’s enough. I think you’ve answered my question.
Do you wish to cross examine? Yes, your honor. Let’s pick up where you left off, shall we.
Anyway, after that IDIOT yelled out, people started dropping to the floor and others started running and screaming and I lost sight of my target. There was someone speaking over the loudspeaker and all of a sudden there was total silence. I looked down at my shirt to see what the glimmer of red light was that caught my eye and that’s when I realized that I was in the sights of a whole lot of guns — big guns — big guns with lasers. I knew at that instant that my very life was hanging by a thread your honor and that’s when I learned what it really means to bend over and kiss your rear end good bye. Anyway, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
GayGrayGeek, Uhhhh. That’s what I told earless fosdik. Can you also not read?
Chicago, Wow, your black bold type really intimidates me. Please call off your dogs. Now, uh, last time I read my American history, blacks were sold by blacks all over the world. Not just America. And, the democrats were running the south in case you didn’t know that either. You’ve visited the Revvvvv Wrights church one too many times. You sound more like the black racist I’m referring to. Everything in your rants refer to black this and black that. Black people need to grow up and quit blaming whitey for all of lifes problems. By the way, what black people are discriminated against? Would that be the high school drop outs who can’t read and write? That’s hardly discrimination.
By chicago's a crybaby
July 2, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
chicago, you whining crybaby
“Predominantly black” colleges are NOT racist institutions. Miss Black USA is NOT a racist institution. Affirmative action is NOT a racist program. “Diversity” hiring programs are NOT racist. Detrotit, Chicago, Cincinnati, New York, Philadelphia, Los Angeles and Portland are NOT racist cities.
You’re just a loser. Capital “L.”
By getalife
July 2, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Congrats to rush for signing a 400 million contract to keep feeding hatred to the ignorant gullible masses.
He got the moral corrupt listeners to vote for Clinton.
God bless America.
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
Commie, most whites believe that the government sells drugs in their neighborhoods as a way to keep them enslaved without chains and whips. These drugs aren’t grown in America and have to be shipped here. Whites wonder how so many drugs can get by Customs and the Coast Guard to be sold in white neighborhoods. Blacks just think its a conspiracy theory, and whites are just too lazy to earn a decent living.
* But the whites say how can they earn a decent living when their schools are so crappy. Blacks are afforded the opportunity to attend well-funded private schools with excellent college prep classes.*
The blacks have fathers that attended UGA who can get them admitted regardless of their gpa, just by making a phone call. Whites are just too lazy to see how the game works. Or maybe they’re just viewed differently by mainstream black society for not adhering to a society that treated them like animals for so long, go figure.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
Chicago, Dude, I think you’ve been under Mayor Daleys chair far too long slobbing his knob. Hope all those alien anal probes will give you some common sense.
By GayGrayGeek
July 2, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
Commie - you’re the one riding the 1960’s hobby horse so hard. In the 21st century where the Rest Of Us Live, it’s the REPUBLIKKKAN party who plays, and plays, and overplays, The Race Card. Go to YouTube and find some of ads the REPUBLIKKKANS used against Harold Ford, for example.
You can keep holding your hands over your ears and using decades-old examples of Democratic dipwads, or you can join the 21st century where it’s the REPUBLIKKKANS like Dusty, like jbmlaw, like Wooten himself, who don’t want Those People to have a voice in their government - like, say, thru voting.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 12:32 PM | Link to this
Chicago, The blacks have fathers that attended UGA who can get them admitted regardless of their gpa, just by making a phone call. Whites are just too lazy to see how the game works.
Is that one phone call from prison? Cause that’s where most of you guys end up anyway. We white people are too busy actually learning and getting in to school the right way.
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
**Crybaby I was responding to the well-thought out rant of the commie, but if you did your homework YOU would know that most historically black colleges were started as land grant colleges by STATES, so that they wouldn’t have to be admitted to other institutions like UGA, Univ. of Missisippi, and other large state schools. Blacks weren’t chosen to be in Ms. America pageant until the 70s so they started their own. And what about the “diversity” hiring programs the good ol boys have had in place for generations?? “No integration now, no integration NEVER!” Recall that?
On another note, did anyone watch ABC last night with all the people who had monkeys as children. And YOU PEOPLE think blacks are crazy.
By Ex-Georgian
July 2, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
Reading the comments on this blog, day after day, have made me glad of two things: (1) That I left my native Jawjuh for good 47 years ago, and (2) that we’re going to have a black man as President. And after Election Day, I’ll be on this blog EVERY DAY, reminding you cowardly white trash scum about it.
By Curious Observer
July 2, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
Only in dumb-as-a-turkey Georgia would legislators be stupid enough to write a law in which constituent rednecks are permitted to carry weapons into bars but not to drink in those bars at the same time.
Maybe these legislators need to know their supporters a little better. They might learn that Gomer doesn’t go into bars unless he intends to quaff a few. Or perhaps they figure that Gomer will already have swilled a six-pack or two before he goes.
Nice way to improve the national image of Georgia! Even West Virginians must look highly cultured in comparison.
By joyseka mcclaine
July 2, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
chicago, you couldn’t get into UGA or Georgia Tech and now your just crying like a little beotch.
My father nor mother graduated from UGA, hey, they never graduated from any college, and I was still accepted at UGA. I’m now a sophomore and lovin’ it.
Can you dig it, brother?
By Whopadoodle
July 2, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
Bull Connor was responsible for Selma? That was a little out of his jurisdiction, wasn’t it?
By Ex-Georgian
July 2, 2008 12:37 PM | Link to this
Reading the comments on this blog, day after day, have made me glad of two things: (1) That I left my native Jawjuh for good 47 years ago, and (2) that we’re going to have a black man as President. And after Election Day, I’ll be on this blog EVERY DAY, reminding you cowardly white trash scum about it.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
GayGrayGeek, Where have you been? Last time I checked it was Bill and Hillary and Barack making race issues in the primaries. It was Robert Byrd who served proudly in the KKK. It was Shirly Franklin who ran radio ads saying the GOP was going to hang black people. The democrat party is the party of race baiting. Jesse Jackson, AL Sharpton, Cynthia Mckinny,…..I can keep going. Please name a current republican who plays the race card. ONE.
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
Commie, you’ve been drinking too much moonshie. I live in Kennesaw idiot. Stop the incest thing and read a book. You backwoods people have your own thought processes. I don’t have any time to go back and forth with you, I’m at work about to repossess your double wide.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
Chicago, Monkeys as children. Uhhh… I won’t even go there. LOL.
I understand your frustrations with white people. But it is time to move on. Maybe we should go get a coke one day and talk about it. We could play ebony and ivory at the waffle house juke box.
By Blind Homer
July 2, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
Chicago racist - This is directly from UGA’s website admission section. “In order to provide a diverse learning environment, the University will adopt policies and practices to increase diversity among its entering students.” Those policies include giving admission spots to black students even though they are less academically qualified than some whites that are denied admission. Please try and include some accurate information in your racist diatribes.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Whopadoodle, Here is a little history on Bull Conor. Notice that he was a DEMOCRAT!
After returning to office in 1956, Connor quickly resumed his heavy-handed approach to dealing with perceived threats. One prominent instance came when a meeting at the Reverend Fred Shuttlesworth’s house with three Montgomery ministers was raided, with Connor fearing that a spread of the bus boycott that had succeeded in Montgomery was imminent. The ministers were arrested for vagrancy, which did not allow a prisoner bail, nor any visitors during the first three days of their incarceration. A federal investigation followed, but Connor refused to cooperate.
Shuttlesworth had been frequently in danger in the previous two years, having seen his church bombed twice. He, his wife and a white minister were also attacked by a mob after attempting to use white restrooms at the local bus station.
In 1960, Connor was elected Democratic National Committee man for Alabama, soon after filing a lawsuit against the New York Times for $1.5 million, for what he said was insinuating that he had promoted racial hatred. Later dropping the amount to $400,000, the case would drag on for six years until Connor lost a $40,000 judgment on appeal. In November 1962, Birmingham voters changed the city’s form of government, with the mayor now working with nine councilmen instead of three county commissioners. The move had been in response to the extremely negative perception of the city (which had been derisively nicknamed “Bombingham”) among outsiders. The most prominent example of this continuing embarrassment came in 1961 when the president of the city’s Chamber of Commerce was visiting Japan, only to see a newspaper photo of a Birmingham bus engulfed in flames.
Endorsed by the Governor of Alabama, George C. Wallace, Connor attempted to run for mayor, but lost on April 2, 1963. Bull and his fellow commissioners then filed suit to block the change in power, but on May 23, the Alabama Supreme Court voted against the lawsuit, ending a 23-year tenure in the post for Connor.
The day after the April election, civil rights leaders, led by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., began “Project ‘C’” (for “confrontation”) in Birmingham against the police tactics used by Connor and his subordinates (and, by extension, other Southern police officials). King’s arrest during this period would provide him the opportunity to write his legendary Letter from Birmingham Jail The goal of this movement was to cause mass arrests and subsequent inability of the judicial and penal systems to deal with this volume of activity. One key strategy was the use of children to further the cause, a tactic that was criticized on both sides of the issue. The short-term effect only increased the level of violence used by Connor’s officers, but in the long term the project proved largely successful, as noted above.
Connor railed, “the n**** loving Kennedys, want to change our way of life, down here”.[citation needed] He wanted Birmingham to ignore John F. Kennedy’s death. Connor stated, “Lee Harvey Oswald, a southern hero like John Wilkes Booth”.[citation needed]
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
I couldn’t get into UGA, by I did graduate from Morehouse College AND Vandy Law School You’re the beotch McClainw. You can talk to me once you start repaying student loans. Doesn’t matter if they’re subsidized or not. I was only stating history and if you took time to do the research you would know. Ever heard of Savannah STATE or Albany STATE. Land Grant institutions started by the STATE, get the milk from behind your ears sophmore. LOL, you just got out the dorm and are talking like you know something. You haven’t even started living yet. Why would I want to go to that redneck school. Listen to the fight school, they pay homage to the Confederacy!
By Marxist Liberal Blasphemy
July 2, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this
The libs are hating this like a you-know-it passion.
“Earnings now pace him ahead of the annual salaries for network news anchors: Katie Couric, Brian Williams, Charlie Gibson and Diane Sawyer — combined”
Yeah, conservatism is dead.
NOT.
Stick that up yerasses, Dimocrat libs.
By Buzzer
July 2, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
Hey Chicago - the civil war started due to the north imposing on the south extra taxes and runing the cotton trade not slavery - only after a few years did the north think abput freeing the slave. If you check Lincoln did not free the slaves in the states he captured. Indeed, if you check further it was african tribes selling their captives to the slave trade - there is enough blame to go all around - i don’t think slavery is right, and what happened is sad but that was a long time ago and most of the new young generation did not get born into slavery. So lets all “unite” and see the light instead and look to the future and belief in yourself and you abilities - that is change you can beleive in - only you can make a change, not some politician and their empty promises.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
Chicago, You live in Kennesaw? Gee, my mistake. YOUR FREAKING NAME SAYS CHICAGO. Moonshine? Dude, you’ve been drinking antifreeze. You backwards people? You are the racist my uneducated friend. Repossess my double wide? That’s going to be mighty hard to do that because my 5 bedroom house is paid for. Guess you aint be gettin no reparations from me will ye? Aw shucks, my Mercedes Beennnz needs an ol change. But din agien my mastas degree don’t mean nutin cause i just be a dumb redneck. HAAAAAAAAA! Moron.
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 12:57 PM | Link to this
Blind Homer, diversity can mean admitting more women. Those silly little things called loopholes. Please tell me what I said that was racist and not fact. When you look on the application for UGA, it specifically asks if you have any relatives that ever attend UGA. Why is that? While you’re reading my ‘racist diatribe’ read what I pulled straight from the U.S. Department of Education website:
In the years following the Civil War, with the 13th Amendment’s abolition of slavery and reconstruction in the South, things began to change. In 1862, senator Justin Morrill spearheaded a movement to improve the state of public higher education throughout the United States, putting an emphasis on the need for institutions to train Americans in the applied sciences, agriculture, and engineering. The Morrill Land-Grant Act gave federal lands to the states for the purpose of opening colleges and universities to educate farmers, scientists, and teachers. Although many such institutions were created, few were open or inviting to blacks, particularly in the South. Only Alcorn State University in Mississippi was created explicitly as a black land-grant college. It would be 28 years before Senator Morrill rectified this problem. The solution came with the second Morrill Land-Grant Act of 1890, which specified that states using federal land-grant funds must either make their schools open to both blacks and whites or allocate money for segregated black colleges to serve as an alternative to white schools. Sixteen exclusively black institutions received 1890 land-grant funds.
You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts.
By Whopadoodle
July 2, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this
Again, Selma is 71 miles from Birmingham. Was he invited there to bust heads? Was he there? Your “history,” neglected any direct connection.
By BS Aplenty
July 2, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this
GayGreyGeek
…or you can join the 21st century where it’s the REPUBLIKKKANS like Dusty, like jbmlaw, like Wooten himself, who don’t want Those People to have a voice in their government - like, say, thru voting.
I’ve been reading this blog for approximately 15 months. I’ve come to admire Jim Wooten and the AJC for allowing just about the best local “Freedom of Speech” forum available. Almost anything, save obscenities, can be stated and published. I tip my hat to the AJC and Jim for those saving graces.
Not once have I ever read anything by Mr. Wooten or other notable conservative bloggers like jbmlaw, dusty or even the infamous but ever so hilarious and insightful tftt, that suggested they, or conservatives in general, wanted to prohibit Those People (your term) from having a voice in government much less not have a vote. Not once have I read such tripe.
Why, then, on gawd’s green earth do You People (that would be leftists) continue to spout these lies as if they were settled truth?
Grow up, sir.
By Abundant Pundit
July 2, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this
Mr Wooten! Shock and Awe wasn’t a spectacle? You need spectacles, (and testicles), for it takes big brass ones to tell the truth at all times, sir.
There is a new DVD out at Blockbuster, “In Bruges”. It’s about a new hitman who accidently kills a child in a church during a hit on a priest. The movie suggests that there are a clique of hitmen who would rather commit suicide than kill a child. The entire movie’s character motivation, plot and denouement rest on that premise.
The movie has comedy, but it’s that dry comedy of Irish and British conterpoint over a ridiculously obscure point of contention. “What? He doesn’t like swans? What’s there not to like about swans? Swans are beautiful, arent’ they? Well alright then. He loves swans. Say it. Say he loves swans. He should love swans. He’s right to loves swans. That’s settled isnt’ it? Good, now whack him.”
That sort of dialogue distracts the audience from the premise. These are cold blooded killers who think they’re living moral lives because all but a few of their victims were bad guys anyway.
The point here is that they used handguns, and ran around openly firing their weapons in the streets of Bruges, Belgium with no police in sight. Deliberating Assemblymen should never be allowed to see this movie when they vote about concealed weapons laws. They would vote no, and then attach a rider that prohibited the director of “In Bruges” from ever standing behind a camera again.
Obama 08: America wont be a bad movie with him directing.
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
You have a Masters degree and have the nerve to say blacks are racists. You must’ve gotten that online or at AIU somehwere. They make 5 bedroom doublewides now, technology has changed. Who brought up reparations, me or you? I don’t believe in handouts for anyone. Just the independent voter in me. I work for everything I have; my house, my rental properties, stocks, and my ETFs. Yes, blacks have stocks. And I never attended Wrights church because I’m Catholic. Yes, blacks are Catholics. I know you just spilled your moonshine reading that.
Your post was the initial, “democrats were racists back in the 60s” crazy post. Going back and forth with you won’t change anything; you have your views about blacks and I have mine about whites. Some of yours are wrong, as well as some of mine. We can continue to talk about your ‘din agien mastas degree’ (???) or talk about how your guy Bush has unashamedly screwed this country.
By Dusty
July 2, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
For goodness sake,
Today’s subject is guns at the airport. We are not fighting the Civil War. We are fighting terrorists. And the subject today is STILL about guns at the airport.
BS Aplenty 12:59
Good post.
Chicago@1:09
Bush has not screwed this country. In fact, he has protected this country along with black and white soldiers laying their lives on the line to do it. A little appreciation for them would show a bit of the open mind you claim to possess.
You say you are Catholic and never went to Wright’s church. Good! But are you going to vote for a man that was a member there for twenty years?
By Blind Homer
July 2, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
Chicago - “believe that the government sells drugs in their neighborhoods as a way to keep them enslaved without chains and whips” sounds a touch racist to me and definitely not a proven fact. “Blacks (whites) are afforded the opportunity to attend well-funded private schools with excellent college prep classes”. I think you’re attributing prep school opportunities to racism rather than generational poverty, the poor white trash don’t have any chances to go to fine prep schools either. Generational poverty certainly has roots in racism but is also perpetuated by black cultural flaws like baby mommas. BTW, I went to Savannah State and did well enough (4.0) to transfer to UGA where I earned a degree.
By GayGrayGeek
July 2, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
BS - if you’ve “been reading this blog for approximately 15 months” then you should have seen several posts by Jim concerning “Voter ID” and the RepubliKKKans glee at making it difficult - if not completely impossible - for some of Those People to get a government-issued ID and, thus, be eligible to vote.
If you’ve missed the posts, I suggest Googling for them.
If you recall them, then I expect your 12:59 post to be totally withdrawn.
By notPC
July 2, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
So…the topic was the Mayor being above the law…and perhaps breaking it.
There is a part of Georgia code that specifically forbids municipalities, and that includes the great city of Atlanta, from regulating firearms in any way. That “right” is reserved for the state. The part of Hartsfield that is off-limits is only off-limits per Federal law, which trumps State law, and that is the secured or “sterile” part of the airport. Franklin and DeCosta have no authority to ban firearms from any other part of the airport. They are the ones that are breaking the law, not the citizen that chooses to exercise his or her rights and licensed by the state to do so. Unfortunately, it is the citizens that will pay for Franklin’s mistake through court costs and attorney fee’s paid from public funds.
By GayGrayGeek
July 2, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
Dusty - AFEES, dear, AFEES or STFU. Your choice.
WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA, DUSTY?
By Jimbo I
July 2, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
I’ve accidentally carried at the airport before I realized it was off limits. It didn’t really make sense to have it off limits to me and I didn’t think it counted as a gun free zone. I did in fact check for signs at the door (something I always look for before carrying in) and I don’t recall seeing any.
A: nothing bad happened. B: I walked past about 500 cops as I went to pick up my people. C: The chief reason I’m glad to see the places I can carry expanded is because I don’t like leaving the gun in the car. I keep hearing about people’s cars getting broken into and their guns getting stolen and I’d rather have it on my hip than vulnerable to theft. People ask why you’d need to carry all these places and 99% of the time you wouldn’t. You carry for the 1%.
How often does the 1% happen? I don’t know, ask someone who has had a kid after a vasectomy or their tubes were tied.. or ask someone who caught AIDs through a condom. The 1% happens every day, it has to. But I do know it doesn’t do any good if it isn’t on my hip or in my pocket and if someone should break into my car it’s not doing anyone any good if it gets stolen. You can reduce your risks considerably, but they’re never at zero.
By Blind Homer
July 2, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
notPC - No need for me to comment on topic as you’ve explained it perfectly. However, I think we should go back to wild west days where almost everyone is armed. Now all the women would pack too. Probably be a good idea to start teaching gun safety in elementary schools though.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
GayGrayGeek, Showing proper ID is racist? THE SUE THE DMV, THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY, RESTAURANTS, POLICE DEPARTMENT, SCHOOLS, UNIVERSITIES, MOVIE THEATRES AND MANY MANY OTHER INSTITUTIONS THAT REQUIRE ID. Dude, you need to pull that dildo out of you gay arse and obtain some common sense.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Chicago, Why did I bring up reparations? Because I saved you some typing time by doing it. You brought up everything else. AIU? No, that’s your department Moorehouse grad. Is that school even accredited? Didn’t the black colleges lose their accreditation? Anyway, no brotha man I gots my masters from a good skoo. My three story house bees too big for you to carry off. Now I gots to go hang my rebel flag up.
PS: If you want to call me a racist go ahead because it reinforces my point about you being a race baiter. If you were a Vandy law grad you would be able to make a better argument than you have about white people.
By BFKaJ
July 2, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Dear Chicago @ numerous times, I would be pleased to hear your analysis of the works of my heroes, Tom Sowell and Walter Williams and Clarence Thomas.
Dear BS @ 12:59, thanks.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
GayGrayGeek, If that is the best argument you can make about the GOP being racists then dude, you are gasping for air. Let me see. Hmmmm. Robert Byrd=KKK member. GOP= passing voter id to keep illegals from voting? I side with the GOP on this one. And no, I’m not wearing a sheet and a burning cross. That would be your party.
By BFKaJ
July 2, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
Dear Communist AJC @ various times, you are doing the heavy lifting today, and quite well, my compliments.
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
Blind Homer, I concede my argument to your response about generational poverty. Point taken.
However, my point about the government not selling drugs, but allowing drugs be to be shipped into inner city neighborhoods and sold. How else does millions of tons of cocaine, heroin, and other drugs get into this country with so much money being spent on the war on drugs. Go to ANY inner city neighborhood below the povery line and you’ll see drugs. How can that be?
During the early and mid 1980s, Lt. Colonel North was alleged to participate in organizing the transportation of cocaine and marijuana from the various sites in Central and South America into the United States as a means of funding the Contra rebels. Congressional records show North was tasked with finding funding “outside the CIA” after the Boland Amendment cut off funding for the Contras in October, 1984.
So its not that much of a conspiracy theory if you look into it.
By GayGrayGeek
July 2, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Commie - not showing. Since you’re revealing some difficulties with Simple Reading, I said the problem was with the difficulties RepubliKKKans created with OBTAINING an ID. Not SHOWING, doofus - OBTAINING.
By TW
July 2, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
John McCain’s campaign announced a shakeup at the top Wednesday, in the wake of growing Republican concern about its ability to compete against Barack Obama.
memo to John McSame: It ain’t the wrapping paper, old man. Highly unlikely you’ll find anything to hold the stench of what the republican party has become.
Fiscal responsibility? Nope.
Militarily Intelligent? Nope.
Small boat of really rich guys with a long line of idiots behind it? Yup.
BTW - It’s unlikely McSame started the Forrestal catastrophy by trying to wet-start his plane. Just not something someone who graduated at the head of his class would do…
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
Dusty, if anything Bush has put these brave soldiers in harms way with this ridiculous war. I have family members fighting this war so don’t patronize me about showing any appreciation. These same family members see no point in this war, but they’re there. Does that make them less patriotic than you, or more patriotic. Name one thing this war has accomplished? Where is bin Laden? If Bush ‘appreciated’ these soldiers so much, why did he oppose the new GI Bill? Then tried to take credit for it?
Answer that.
By fearless fosdik
July 2, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Your Dudeness.. you keep on repeating your contentions of Bull Conor..George Wallace et al…If they were alive today these morons would be REPUBLICANS…
Get it?
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 2:30 PM | Link to this
GayGrayGeek, Are you high? How hard is it to go to the DMV, which has been around for, I don’t know, 40 years, and get a drivers license? What about birth certificate? What about SS card? AND, how does that make the GOP racists if these idiot people are too lazy to obtain an ID? Doofus? Are you kidding me? DOES THIS ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT OBTAINING AN ID? Now, tell me that I’m racist. I dare you, you freaking idiot.
By Miss Congeniality
July 2, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
Thanks JBM,
I agree. All too often black people cry “racism” has held them back, but they can never explain how certain men, as in the ones you mentioned, were able to make it if America was so hell-bent on keeping them down.
Also, one of my personal heroes, Thurgood Marshall. Chicago, please explain how he made it to his position if we “whiteys” keep all blacks down?
By dirty harry
July 2, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
By BFKaJ
July 2, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Holy TRINITY…Sounds like the same crap DUSTY reads!
By the way how was that Key Lime pie?
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
earless fosdik, So you can see the future? Wow, you should be on Oprah my idiotic friend. So, you know for a fact that a dead guy would be in a different party? Ok, so Lincoln would be a democrat, Hitler would be a republican? This is fun because 4 year olds have more sense than you do.
Get it? Should I send you a check for a subscription to Hooked on Phonics?
By GunNutsNeedNotFear
July 2, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
The Fear Everything under the SUN crowd want to bring guns within the vicinity of the airport?
Hey, you should THANK the GM and Shirley Franklin. At least they are trying to secure us from a more realistic threat, that has a higher possibility to be carried out on any day of the week.
I’m more afraid of people like the REP who sponsored the Gun in public places and restaurant bill - than I am of a foreign terrorist. The possibility of me running into a gun crazy nut in a restaurant or at the airport is much higher…….
I’ll keep praying that the airport is free of GUNS and that my child and I can eat in McDonalds without the threat of some NUT with the RIGHT to carry a gun. I’ve survived all these years without this law and can’t understand the NEED to have such a LAW.
By Dusty
July 2, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
Gay Gray Geek @2:03
Did you have a little vascular ‘accident’ in the brain that makes you repeat the same thing over and over day after day?
A friend of mine had a parrot with the same problem.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Chicago, Can you change your name to Ghetto? It would make more sense. If you truly are a lawyer then you would know that that terrible GI Bill was FULL of crap. It was full of pet projects created by your glorious democrap party. Don’t remember reading about Bush trying to take credit for something Harry Reid created. He doesn’t take credit for crap.
BFKaJ, It’s really easy to tackle a liberal. They’re all mindless idiots who’s ideas always fail. IE. Jimmy Carters
By Jimbo I
July 2, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
The new GI Bill is sort of screwy. If I recall they’re going to pay out these billions of dollars to anyone who joins for the minimum amount of time. McCain’s opposition (again if I recall) and probably Bush’s too, is that it wasn’t rewarding soldiers for longer periods of service. Everyone just sort of gets theirs at 3-4 years. McCain in particular wanted to give benefits as four, but also wanted to increase benefits at 12. If you ask me we should concentrate less on the GI Bill and more on VA benefits. The GI Bill is sort of bread and circuses if you’re suffering from PTSD and brain trauma from explosions (our soldiers get blown up more than anything) or worse missing limbs.. The VA is doing a better job than they were, but they’re still incredibly crappy. I’m pretty sure our war wounded would prefer we gave them their disability too, instead of consistently trying to weasel out of it. I’d go so far to say that regardless of what GI Bill is implemented the government will STILL try to weasel out of it.. more bread and circuses.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
fearless fosdik, If Winston Churchill were alive he’d be circus clown, right? Oh here’s one. If Ghandi were alive he’d be an executive at Hillshire Farms, right? Dude, you are too funny.
By Jimbo I
July 2, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
Please, protect us from the “real threat”? Post 9/11 Airport Security spawned the term “Security Theater” among security professionals. Can you guess why? They offer no appreciable improvements to airport security. Much like “strict gun control” in many large cities, they do nothing to prevent crime and add zero safety. Don’t believe me? Ask the CDC. Observe the test runs and audits of the TSA, those jokers do a worse job than their predecessors even with their stupid ideas on security.
Also, yeah, you do run into people with guns every day. There are 6 million in this country and some probably over 500,000 in Georgia alone. Tell me, where is the blood bath? Where is the slaughter? Oh, right.. it’s no where.. because the “gun crazies” are not a threat to your safety.. you’re just paranoid that someone has power that you don’t so you’ve invented this vivid colorful figment of the “gun nut” and it’s everything you’ve seen on TV.. how nice for you.
By Jimbo I
July 2, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Clarification: 6 million people with concealed carry permits, 500,000+ in Georgia.
Clarification 2: Bush hates soldiers.
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
I’m done talking to ‘Communists’. I refuse to step down to the name calling that has invaded this blog any longer. Was it more important to pass the GI to support the troops, or to block it because of the pet projects that are in EVERY piece of legislation that goes before Congress. And the fact remains neither Bush, nor McCain opposed the bill because of ‘pet projects,’ rather they opposed it because they felt it was ‘too generous’ for the troops and wouldn’t give them any incentive to re-enlist. Call me ghetto or whatever, but the facts are still the facts.
Ms Congeniality, if you read posts starting with the ‘Communist’ @ 11:28 you would see where they stated that blacks are racists. I was refuting his point with facts. Thurgood Marshall achieved what he did in spite of whites, not because of them. White congressmen of that day (democrats, you’re right Commie. I can agree with facts.) opposed him being nominated to the Supreme Court because he was black. And my posts are presented with nothing but mere facts of history, you may not like them but they are the truth.
By fearless fosdik
July 2, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
My dear friend…When all you can resort to is name calling then your arguement is pretty lame…You are all over the place!
You’re sounding like a RETARD!
Now go take a sedative, calm down, chill out, wipe the sweat off your face, and let the big boys do the blogging!
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
fearless fosdik, At least I’m not predicting what dead people would do. And yes, you’re an idiot. Just stating the obvious and NO I’m not your friend. There are hotlines for you to call.
By Jimbo I
July 2, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Chicago, people are racist. Period.. or more accurately they’re bigoted. It’s inescapable. Their reasons for their hate are numerous and equally stupid.
Whether you like it or not there are black bigots. Hell, there are blacks who are bigoted against black people and whites who are bigoted against white people and.. the asians all hate each other pretty thoroughly. It’s human nature.
By Miss Congeniality
July 2, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
Chicago,
Anybody can be racist. It is not a limited disease only whites get. Think about all the genocide all over the world and how people will kill each other over races, tribes, etc. Look at Darfur, maybe not race, but definitly ethnic violence.
By fearless fosdik
July 2, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
Really…Hotlines to call!
Well, you seem to know all about it .. So clue me in..OK?
P.S. Oh no! can’t we be friends? I probably won’t be able to sleep tonight knowing we can’t be friends!
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this
Commie, Bush doesn’t take credit for crap?? You’re right about that. Finding bin Laden, Walter Reed, Katrina, WMDS. No he doesn’t take credit for any of those things. Never his fault. I thought he was the ‘Decider’. You just can’t admit that he’s a Chump for a President. The worst of our time.
Jimbo I, I agree. But Republicans who always try to wear the banner of being for the troops are the ones that screw them. It’s all a sham to them. Who would want to serve 3-4 years knowing they may end up in Iraq or Iran if McCain becomes President. They should get credit for the time they served and able to receive a college education, low interest home loans, and other benefits. But 12 years? Too many republicans could win the presidency. Regardless, I don’t believe anyone should’ve voted against the bill in the first place.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
Chicago, Yeah, I did say blacks were racist? So what? It’s a fact. Why else would you have black churches, black colleges, black television, black national anthems, black clothing, etc….. If you want to get out the past then quit calling everything black this and that and start the racial healing. And actually, you have not stated FACTS. You’ve presented rhetoric about blacks and UGA and white people selling drugs. So take your self righteous BS and shove it.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
Chicago, RAY NAGIN AND THE REST OF THE DEMOCRATS IN LA WERE IN CONTROL OF THAT STATE. Not Bush. This argument is getting old. Walter Reed? How is that Bush fault? Worst of our time? Hmmmm Jimmy Carter and Blow Job Hillbilly come to my mind. I fault Bill Clinton for 911 and I fault Jimmy Carter for Iran right now. The reason you don’t like Bush is because you’re a lawyer. AND ALL LAWYERS LIE. Plain and simple. Most democrats are lawyers and make their money off of other peoples misery. How many ambulances have you chased today?
By dusty
July 2, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
Time out
Time out….
Anyone up for some fresh key lime pie?
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
People are racists, but I’m talking about here in the United States. It seems the people confuse anger with racism among blacks. We are not far removed from Jim Crow when my parents had to attend segregated schools. Look at the posts that appear here on a daily basis. “Black thugs, shirley and her black cronies, or the blacks in Clayton County.” What about whats going on in the City of Snellville, or Sonny not being able to balance a budget? Those things don’t get published as much as what blacks do. On a national level, people like to refer to rev. Wright in regards to Obama, but what about Hagee with McCain.
Yes, blacks do have a chip on their shoulder. Should we move past it, yes! But tell me how can we when the disparity in this (American) society is so profound? Do you think blacks want to live in make lower wages, live in crime ridden neighborhoods? Of course not. Only 20 years ago, banks would still redline loans to keep blacks out. Wasn’t too long ago. I grew up in the Hyde Park section of Chicago, yes Obama’s neighborhood, but its an extremely diverse place of all nationalities. I wasn’t subjected to any extreme events racsim until I moved to the south. Yes, blacks can be racist, but my point is that the field is not yet level in terms of equality. Just as they aren’t for women. I roomed with a white person in law school and we had these discussions, and I believe it gave us both a better understanding of what other’s think. Not trying to argue at all, just present a point I believe is valid.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
earless fosdik, Hotlines? Yeah, I think I saw your number on the bathroom wall. Sleep at night? You? No, it won’t be because of me. It’ll be because of that raging case of herpes you picked up.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
Chicago, Why don’t things about Sonny get posted on the nightly news? Gee I don’t know. Might have to do with a 90% black on black shooting spree that happens daily in Dekalb County. If you’ve followed the Clayton County tragedy then you would know that the BLACK COUNTY OFFICIALS made it their obligation to fire “those whites” as one official said. Please explain that one to me. I understand your anger but you need to understand that people are sick and tired of being labeled a racist if they look at other people the wrong way. Jesse and Al have done it for years. Explain that! And by the way, how have you been treated in the south? I don’t want a story about how someone didn’t open a door for you. I’ve heard enough of these ridiculous stories. Has anyone tried to lynch you? I lived in the south for 22 years and had many black friends. Race never came up once. Feel free to call me a liar.
By fearless fosdik
July 2, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
Since you are not “MY FRIEND”, may I call you A*******Hat?
Well, A*******Hat since you are not “MY FRIEND” how would you know my phone number on a bathroom wall….And, what were you doing in that bathroom?
The wide stance ala Larry Craig?
By Tailgunner
July 2, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
A nation of laws? Yes (if we like them and choose to allow them to apply to us).
Hmmm - you mean like all the criminals who will completely ignore Mayor Franklin’s ban on handguns in the airport - just as they do everywhere else?
I carry a pistol. I will not be a victim. Mayor Franklin has the luxury of armed guards provided at taxpayer expense.
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
Commie, you’re nuts. A national catastrophy and you say how is that Bush’s fault? If a hurricane had hit Kennebunkport, Maine do you think he would be in California on vacation? If he can send the armed forces to ‘liberate’ the Iraqis, why can’t he send those same troops to LA in a national crisis. Katrina was not a state problem, he should’ve been there ‘boots on the ground’ as republicans love to say. A nation needs to see their president strong in times of turmoil. Not doing a fly-by on Air Force I.
I do believe your initial post is what commenced this whole discussion. I don’t see how Clinton getting a blow job killed anyone, but sending troops to a false war has. Which is worse? Personally, I made a good piece of change when Clinton was President. Jimmy Carter said over 25 years ago that we need to end our addiction to oil. Turns out he was right. He never sent us to a dumb war, and let public enemy number one (bin laden) go free the last 7 years. As I stated, I’m an Independent and actually voted for Isaakson a few years back. Thats not working out too well. See I can type a blog without crap you’ve said. I’m a real estate attorney, on vacation this week. I don’t chase ambulances. Either we can have an honest debate or just ignore each others post.
So tell me then Commie, how do drugs get into this country? The black racists you enjoy talking about don’t own any planes to fly to S. America. What is your honest opinion on this? I really want to know.
UGA was founded in 1785 and didn’t admit the first blacks until 1961. So I guess no blacks applied there for 176 years, or just weren’t smart enough to get in.
By Miss Congeniality
July 2, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
Chicago,
I can understand that blacks have chips on their shoulders. I understand the history, I have read all the lessons. But while I understand that you are “not too far removed from the Jim Crow days”, you have succeeded on your own terms. But what are you going to teach your children? To be hateful or didtrustful towards white people because of the history?
I understand, we should never forget what happened. But we should forgive. No one alive today was alive during Slavery. and the generation that was alive during the worst of the Jim Crow era is growing older. The newest generations have not had to deal with that level of racist hate. But elders keep the “chip” from being resolved because they keep preaching that whites are racist, bigots, and telling the children to be aware because they will be held down because they are black.
I think it is time to stop preaching to the new generations about how we should like or hate a group of people. Teach your children to stand on their own two feet and don’t feed into the history. If our children are taught to ignore race, then someday maybe it’ll happen.
By Jimbo I
July 2, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
Chicago,
I think the chief issue with the south is that there’s a tendency for the hatred of one to play off the other. Another thing is that it’s not just a question of black or white now, both races have been railing on the mexicans and asians lately.. when will people learn.. (never)
At any rate, if it’s any consolation, my people have only considered “white” in the last century or so and my family in particular came over indentured. At least we got ours in the end.
By Jimbo I
July 2, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
Now Chicago, don’t get crazy..
White people have meth.. and there are plenty of black people with airplanes.
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
Jesse and Al don’t speak for me. They are only chasing money, and the Clayton County Sheriff are twits. I’m sure your black friends feel the same way. I don’t believe I even called YOU a racist, only in the negative on your argument. Not angry either, just having an honest discussion. On vacation remember. Kids gone to grandma’s, I’m having a grand time. No argument about the Clayton County School Board either, their incompetent and I would never send my kids there. I can agree with you on some things Commie.
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this
Jimbo I, believe me there are very, VERY few blacks that own airplanes outside of Oprah and Bob Johnson. And hardly any of those I would call drug traffickers. I would call them athletes.
By Dusty
July 2, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this
sigh..ID THIEF @ 3:04 Not the real Dusty of course..
Somebody is sure stuck on repeat with key lime pie. Maybe that is the liberal “sense of humor”. Well, they ARE a bit ‘funny’ you know.
By Dust Pan
July 2, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
True,
The true dusty would only invite libs over for Key lime pie if she poisioned the pie. Make sure Cheney’s the taster.
By Blind Homer
July 2, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
Chicago - I agree 100% on Bush, worst in my lifetime followed by Carter and Reagan. I also agree there are undoubtedly white people at the top of the drug food chain but I doubt the government plot to enslave blacks with drugs. Drugs are in the black community because of demand. Those with intellectual capacity and supportive parenting often escape like I escaped the east side of Cleveland and you escaped Chciago. But I don’t think we can rescue the 85 IQ crackhead baby momma’s kids by making prep schools and good colleges more accessible. I think it would be nice if black leaders like Sharpton and Jesse would join Cosby and address those issues instead of perpetuating the problems because that’s how they make their living!
By lsdpout
July 2, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
The AJC should - but won’t - run a cartoon of DeCosta and Franklin standing in the doorway of the airport refusing to let any guns in, just as George Wallace stood in the doorway of a school to prevent integration.
Maybe Perdue can order the National Guard to escort gun owners past Franklin and DeCosta while liberals shout nasty things at them.
By BFKaJ
July 2, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
Dear Chicago @ 3:09, “Only 20 years ago, banks would still redline loans to keep blacks out.” That was a lie 30 years ago when HMDA first reared its ugly head, proffered by a Chicago activist, of course. I was examining the banks then, and I know better. I never met a banker who was not greedy. Every one of the hundreds I have known would make any loan where he reasonably believed he would get his principal back.
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
BFKaJ, you are correct. The Disclosure Act was implemented in ‘75. Not a lie, wrong answer and I appreciate your clarification.
Blind Homer, you can’t save the masses, but a good majority can be given an honest opportunity as long as they earn it through hard work. Don’t bait and switch the youth like No Child Left Behind. Make all these mandates and don’t even fund the program.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
Chicago, I’m glad we can agree on some things. How did drugs get in this country? Open borders, politicians and lawyers. Lawyers that protect criminals. Politicians that dont close up the borders. That’s how. I’m not nuts, just sick of hearing race this and race that. I’m too busy working to care about being a racist. By the way, IT IS a state issue with a hurricane. I lived in FL for several years and when the governor told us to leave we left. Yes, lots of people in New Orleans didnt have cars but it was the idiots who ran the state that messed that up.
By Dusty
July 2, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
Well, Chicago, I will tell you what makes me frustrated.
My black banker doesn’t call me a racist. My black surgeon in dematology doesn’t call me a racist. Of course, my black friends at church, some first generation from Africa, don’t call me racist. My black coworkers in laboratory medicine have never called me racist. The Native Americans I worked with for ten summers never called me a racist. But..here in absentia..I am called a racist simply because I am a Southerner.
So you think there is discrimination. Yes, there is. But it hits all races in one way or another. But avoid the term unless you are sure it is accurate.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
Blind Homer, Yeah, that Reagan was horrible. Brought down the soviet empire. Man, what a terrible president.
By Dusty
July 2, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
dustPan@3:40.
Very cute. Come on over for our July 4th cookout. You can be first ‘taster’. I invited Cheney and John but they already had plans. Drat!!
Now don’t cry. You can come anyway. I’ll be glad to take your check for McCain. Now, heel, and be a good boy.
By @@
July 2, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Bearden’s totin’ a “push-pin”.
This’ll be be interesting to watch.
How can Mayor Franklin and DeCosta get around that which has now been ruled constitutional?
The gun-rights activists who showed up at Cristo’s packin’ heat said they would honor any private business who posted a “Guns Prohibited” sign.
Lease a 5’X8’ section inside each airport entrance to private vendors food vendors. Post…..
“Guns Prohibited” - Plane Delicious
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
Dusty, The problem with people like Chicago is that they are brought up to believe white people are evil and that the south is full of KKK members. People can not get out of the past. I just read an article about a college professor at Columbia who was fired for plagiarism. She tied a noose around her door and said a racist white person did it. It was proven otherwise but my point is that a lot of blacks jump to conclusions and play the race card. Southerners are the butt of jokes even though there are tons of racists in NY, Chicago, and LA. The head of the DNC makes racist jokes on national tv yet no one says anything. Jesse Jackson has still yet to apologize for calling the Duke lacrosse players white racists when they did nothing wrong. It’s a double standard among many blacks. They believe whites are the only racists in the world. Until we all can get passed this we will remain at odds over skin color.
By @@
July 2, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
I don’t want to stir the pot here, but everything is “white” over at Luckovich’s.
Whassup with that?
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
“But avoid the term unless you are sure it is accurate.”
I don’t believe you’ve read a few of my posts Dusty. I believe I said people of all races CAN be racists. Commie, when the feds declare a FEDERAL disaster area, the Feds take over with providing resources.
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
I thought we had come to a common agreement Commie, but I guess not. You make assumptions about me, yet you don’t even know me or ‘how I was raised.’ I’ve never said all white people are racist, I’ve roomed with whites in law school. The south isn’t full of KKK members, but they are people here that would love to go back to those days. What exactly is the race card Commie? Please expound. There are racists everywhere, but southerners are the butt of jokes because they would rather pass gun laws (original topic) instead of doing anything about the transportation woes that are dragging this state down. A double standard? Ok, what you don’t know is that many blacks are ashamed at the behavior of other blacks, because the perception of ‘thug’ behavior is placed on us all. I was starting to come around with you, but you have no idea what you were talking about in your last post.
Run that post by your black friends and see what their reaction may be. You’re taking one instance about a professor to draw a conclusion about an entire race. But comments coming from you and Dusty can only be taken with a grain of salt. Just because you work with blacks or have a doctor thats black, doesn’t mean you understand the black experience. You say blacks talk about the past but you spent half the day quoting Bull Connor.
By Blind Homer
July 2, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
Commie - Just a few of the Reagan sins, starting with the one you list. Due to his background and all those blacklist, commie under every bed McCarthyism days where he gained power he had an inordinate hatred of the red menace. This led him to a huge foreign policy blunder with the arms race. Virtually all the Soviets and most historians will tell you the Soviets were already done, crushed under their five year plans and failed economics. But Reagan wasn’t too bright and didn’t realize that so 1) he fostered the lie of voodoo economics (supply side and deficit spending) that is hurting our economy right now because Bush copied a bad economic model, and 2) re-directed the department of energy to work on his infamous Star Wars instead of energy conservation and alternative fuels that we desperately need now. He contributed to another current problem by signing the first illegal alien amnesty bill in 1987, which encouraged the 20 million that have invaded since. He ran on a balanced budget plank but never submitted one to Congress although he reduced taxes on the rich from 70 to 28%. And that ignores his violation of the law (Boland amendment) and treason by providing weapons to the Iranians in the Iran Contra mess, which also included drug sales. Great President, truly outstanding!
By BS Aplenty
July 2, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
GayGreyGeek @ 1:59
No can do, G3.
I don’t find discriminatory intent when you advocate for a law that requires citizens to be identified prior to voting. Voter ID laws are very similar to, and no more discriminatory than, federal banking laws [Bank Secrecy Act & USA Patriot Act] that require banks to identify individuals prior to opening a deposit account.
The Bush administration even signed additional legislation in 2002 that assists in strengthening the Voting Rights Act. I believe the law is called the Help America Vote Act. You may wish to peruse the details of this legilation at your convenience.
By shiny
July 2, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
I just dipped in here for a minute..
Dusty I thought you were a farmer??
I guess you become whatever is convenient for the time.
You obviously have goo gobs of time on your hands, as you post more out here than anyone else. How about heading down to Accountempts or the welfare-to-work office or something will you?
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
Blind Homer, Keep telling yourself that as Obama tries to paint himself as Reagan. Next you’ll be telling us the Lincoln was a transsexual.
Chicago, Bull Connor was used to make a point to some hack about the GOP being racist. He was a democrat and if you want to study up on the south during civil rights you will see that the demos controlled the south. It isn’t until the past 10 years or so that the GOP got control. People got sick of high taxes. As far as going back to Jim Crow laws I say no. You’re cherry picking the south in order to make your point. It’s like polling. A poll is created to suggest something is majority yet the poll is only used on 1600 people out of millions of people. What black experience are you talking about? I’ve asked you this before and I see it as an excuse to play the victim. If you were drowning in a lake and someone was going to throw you a life vest you’d be the one complaining about the color of the vest. But then again, I assume too much at times.
By Dusty
July 2, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this
Sorry, Chicago, you name all the bad things you have “heard about” and then say I said something about Bull Connor. Do you want me to list all the ‘bad things’ I have heard?and read? Of course not.
I can’t experience the “Black experience” because I am white. But you cannot experience the “White Southern” experience either.
It may surprise you that I discuss ‘banking’ with my banker. Neither of us is there to discuss “race relations”. To do that would proclaim that I know you are black and I am white so let’s talk about it. We discuss business which is why both of us are there. Same with others. It is called mutual trust. PLain old friends do not have to discuss such things because we have long known that we care about each other.
Do you discuss racism with every white person with whom you come in contact? To do so shows that you are still struggling with the same old proclamation: “We are created equal.”
I hope you succeed in your trip to find the meaning of equality. Right now, I am afraid you have a way to go.
By CommieMama
July 2, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
Hey Communist AJC!!
“Why else would you have black churches”
Black churches are only referred to that way when the demographic is predominantly Black. You are just as welcome in the “Black church” as you are in any white church. Come on in, you’re welcome. Why? Because we understand that it is God’s church. Test my statement, please..
“black colleges” No such thing..only historically “black” colleges, because you did not want to let us into yours because in your eyes we were not equal remember? Apply to AU anytime, you just might graduate Valedictorian.
“black national anthems” You mean the one written by Samuel Francis Smith- a white man? “America”? Amazing how we embraced that song after all the horrific treatment inflicted upon us huh?
“black clothing” Come on, you’re reaching here. I’ve never been into any store that had signs posted saying “Colored only”. At least not in the clothing aisles..
“Black television” That was just a scheme by one man to become a billionaire by exploiting his own people and then turning it over to “white people” to do the same. You know, African tribal leader revisted. He was playing on your team the entire time! He’s given you the results you wanted..What are you complaining about?
By Abundant Pundit
July 2, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
I’ve done a statistical random number generated logarithm that calculated the odds that the last three hours of comments on this blog are from the same troll. I’ve got an 89% reliability. Chicago, Dusty, @@, and Communist ajc are the same moron.
But then you all knew that. Even trolls who post with aliases on the oppostite side of the aisle, deploy the same syntactical anomalies, which totally give them away. A retard reads like an imbecile no matter what.
I happen to understand the power of words more than the average person. I’m attuned to the rhythmic patterns that alwasy give away an imposter ID or a troll with 15 aliases.
I minored in psych. What can I say. Well, let me put it this way: If they’re not the same butt-probing finger-sniffer, then it’s worse than if it was one clown. That means that these mutants have found each other on line, and that poses a threat to the general public, and they must be exterminated. I’ve got a call into the Homeland Security number, the FBI, and the CIA. These hate-speakers may just be a bored sleeper cell waiting for OBL orders.
They sure read like they are. Show me one post that pledges loyalty to the flag, the USA or it’s citizens. All I read is the hate they hold for the clear majority of voters who will make Obama our next prez.
I call on any law enforcement and national security force to investigate these hateful trolls who are a profiling criteria dream match for terrorists, Islamist, and Al Queda suicide lunatic.
I’m counting on real americans to back me up here. It’s takes courage to expose traitors and terrorists.
I am brave.
Obama 08: We’ll survive the sleeper trolls and their conspiracies, and we’ll see a new day with a new America with Justice and Liberty for all.
bwa
By Dusty
July 2, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
shiny4:41
You thought I was a farmer. I think you are an idiot.
Either you are one of the ID THIEVES or you don’t catch on very quickly.
Keep checking my posts, shiny. You may learn something if that is possible. Since you are a lib….well….take….. your…..time… . .
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
Commie, how am I cherry picking the South when I actually agreed with you in my post @ 2:48. Even though they were democrats, I think we agree based on your many Bull Connor posts that they were racists. Eventually they switched parties around 1964 and have been republicans ever since. It wasn’t due to high taxes, lets be honest. I’m speaking of the experience of being pulled over in your own neighborhood and be suspected of being a criminal because you’re black…..be then again you wouldn’t even understand. Genarlow Wilson, Barbie Bandits; see the difference. What if Wilson was white?? Now if those Barbie Bandits were black, do you believe they’d be on Good Morning America and viewed as celebrities?? They got less time than their accomplices one of which wasn’t even at the bank, and THEY robbed the bank. Enjoy the day everybody.
By Blind Homer
July 2, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
commie - You just spew hatred and no facts, you’re not worth the keystrokes. The Reagan tax cuts, budgets, Iran Contra, illegal amnesty bill, Star Wars space lasers are all well verified historical facts. Voodoo economics is an opinion, but one that seems supported by current conditions. The huge deficits have weakened the dollar and that is a factor in the current price of gas and food. I’d explain economics to you as well, but I don’t think you’d get it. As for Obama, I’m not impressed, but he’s probably the better choice over McCain. Since we’re deficit spending I think health care sounds better than peacekeeping and rebuilding the infrastructure for the Iraqi scum. I do like the nuclear plants idea though.
By Chicago
July 2, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this
Abundant FOOL, if you understand the power of words so well then learn how to spell ‘always’. I’m sure Commie and Dusty can at least agree with me on that. By the way, I’m voting for Obama AND have registered people to vote in the fall election. what have you done?
By Dusty
July 2, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this
Abundant Pundit,@5:00
I read your dumbit. I have come to the conclusion that EVERYBODY on this blog is the SAME PERSON. So there! One for all and all for one. Your cute dispute should be mute because I don’t give a hoot about your black boot nefarious ‘cute’.
This is the correct refrain. The next president will be John McCain.
Bon nuit, mon amis…..and especially you, Inspector Clouseau..
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this
Blind Homer, I was waiting to be called either a hater or a nazi. OIL has weakened the dollar my friend. And how is the nationalized socialist healthcare going to be paid for? BY US! If you want DMV service then go ahead and go to a government hospital. I’ll stick with the private sector. I’m sure Obama Hussein will keep us safe when he brings the war home to America. I guess we’ll all be blogging from government camps by then after we’re nuked.
Chicago, Barbie Bandits! Wow, you’ve named ONE white person who committed a crime. I can name about 20 incidents just by reading my local newspaper and watching tv. Blacks outnumber whites when it comes to crime. Fact.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this
Chicago, Bull Connor became a republican after he died?
By Rhetorical
July 2, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this
Commie AJC:
Do blacks really outnumber whites in crime? All crime? Violent crime? or do they just get the most publicity?
And what does that have to do with anything?
By TW
July 2, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
There is no bigger indictment of the white male than the condition of those who are not.
This is America, so act like a richard if you must - just don’t pretend your not one. There’s just no need - your actions precede and negate any such argument.
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
Rhetorical, Yes, yes, yes and no. It has to do with blacks not owning up to their own mistakes. Like the story of an ex-marine who shot two armed robbers, both black, in a subway store. The grandmother of one of the 21 year olds said that he did nothing wrong and the the ex-marine should go to prison for shooting her grandson. So let me get this straight, if youre an idiot and you rob a bank or store, and someone shoots you its their fault? That is what I am talking about. Out of wedlock births are in high numbers and dead beat baby daddys running around impregnating women.
Is that racist for pointing out what’s really going on?
By CommunistAJC
July 2, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this
CommieMama, So the black church isn’t a racist? Really? Black theology about Africa isn’t racist? And what does Black Theology have to do with the Bible?
By Blind Homer
July 2, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this
commie - We’ve floated so much debt paying for the war and the tax breaks that the supply outran the demand so we had to lower the price. That is done through currency exchange, so today 10 euros will get you 12 dollars of US debt, but when Bush took office it would only get 10. I’m not saying national health care will be better than private, the government doesn’t do anything very well. I’m saying if we’re going to outspend our revenues I’d rather it went for US healthcare for those that don’t have any than alternately blowing up and rebuilding Iraq and Afghanistan.
By Dusty
July 2, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this
TW@5:41
You said: Act like a richard…richard?…who is richard? and don’t pretened you aren’t one…
Well, I am sure I am not one…richard.
Are you richard, TW?
By Mike
July 3, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
Why shouldn’t Mayor Franklin ignore the law? President Bush does it every time he signs a new law and doesn’t agree with it. He includes a “signing statement” essentially saying it doesn’t apply to the executive branch.
By Go away control nuts
July 3, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this
The same old tired tune is being played yet again by the gun control nuts that think that the world would be a better place if we would all throw away our guns, hold hands and sing Kumbuya. The fact is that the non-sterile areas of the airport are no different from a mall, the grocery store or the park, all legal to carry your weapon in when you have a CCW permit. The OK Corral shootouts never happened there either. Other airports allow weapons and they don’t have shootouts like the gun control nuts predict will happen here. Please, all you chicken little nut cases, crawl back under whatever rock you crawled out from.
By Sue Shirley personally
July 3, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this
I wonder if there is a basis for a group of citizens hiring an attorney and suing shirley personally for violating the law and wasting our tax dollars. I’d like to sue her personally, dollar for dollar, for what she has wasted.
By Chestatee
July 3, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this
Why would someone need to be armed at the ATL airport? There are probably more police per square area than in any other public place in the state. What are these armed individuals going to do? Is the airport a dangerous place where muggers and rapists are waiting to attack us once we enter the place? Or, is their intention to save us from the next terrorist attack? (Hey Rambo, please keep us safe!) If you analyze this external to the argument that it’s a state law (Georgia lawmakers always like to throw a bone to their right wing constituency), there is absolutely no compelling reason to take a weapon to the airport. It only creates an environment that makes it unsafe for everyone, including our police officers stationed there.
By Hmm..
July 3, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
Why would someone need to be armed in an Atlatnat area Starbucks???
Oh I don’t know.. someone just might walk in, pull out a gun and unload it into the person sitting at a table right next to you and you might be hit.
I wonder what the odds are of that happening?
By Austell
July 3, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
1st test of the new Georgia concealed weapons law.
An armed police officer in pursuit was shot. Lot of help that gun was. That armed officer sure showed how much that gun helped.LMAO!!!
FAIL
By Austell
July 3, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
NEW GEORGIA CONCEALED GUN LAW FAILS TO PREVENT ATTACK!!!
Fail
By James Winslo
July 3, 2008 5:54 PM | Link to this
To Chestatee:
You take a gun to the airport because you live in a high crime area and you want to have it with you in your car when you return home. It’s just that simple.
Do you know that hundreds of flyers who are going hunting and to gun shows and shooting events transport their guns and ammmo each day through the airport by putting them in checked luggage at the ticket counter per TSA regualations? They even have to show the ticket clerk they are unloaded before the lock it in their luggage. How many seconds do you think it takes to put a magazine in a pistol? About one !
This is political grandstanding period!
By James Winslo
July 3, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this
For a city in dire financial condition, how much money will Mayor Franklin waste defending the airport gun suit when the State legislature, the Georgia Supreme Court and the U.S. Supreme Court have already spoken.