Thinking Right

By Redneck Convert

June 26, 2008 8:56 AM | Link to this

Well, I guess old Wooten is trying to teach them other Georgia newspaper folks how to blog this mornin’ They’ll probably look at this blog all day on a big screen or something. Sister Dusty might even be down there trying to get his autograph. Maybe we’ll get some more Godly Republican blogs in this state because of it. Huh, just seen where it’s been postponed until the fall. Guess all those libruls at the Forsyth County News and the Sparta Ismaelite wouldn’t come. Oh well, have a good day everybody.

By hillbilly ragger

June 26, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

By calling this post the “Child Rapist Opinion,” it sure sounds like you’re calling Justice Kennedy a child rapist.

Classy, per usual, Wooten.

By BFKaJ

June 26, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I have not decided what I think about the leftist court protecting child rapists, but I promise to let you know when I decide. On top of Boumediene and Kelo, one would think even leftists would be unhappy with the state of their ideology. Busy this morning, so I will not commence administering beatings sooner than this afternoon. Did we mention this is about protecting child rapists?

By Adam

June 26, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

So how did the “national consensus” become the basis for questions of constitutionality? This is not surprising since the Court has moved from even considering the Consitiution in reaching decisions. Decisions are now made on the basis of focus groups and polls.

How many states had enacted same sex marriage? What about the taking of private property? It seems that “national consensus” only applies in selected decisions and when it fits the leftist agenda.

By @@

June 26, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

Jim:

Maybe the general consensus stems from the total disregard for infants/children in the womb. Could this ruling protecting child rapists be an extension of that mindset?

Is it any wonder that our young people are beginning to show signs of that same disregard for human life?

Barack Obama will fight to protect our children from rapists. He’ll guarantee your right to abort ‘em before they’re at risk…before it’s too late.

Scratch that….

With Obama, better late than never.

Can we stop the world now Jim? This is where I want to get off.

By BFKaJ

June 26, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this

Dear Hillbilly @ 9:00, you are aware that Kennedy is a child rapist, aren’t you? (The victorious child rapist in this case is Patrick Kennedy, and the style of the case is Kennedy v Louisiana.)

By Get Real

June 26, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this

Weren’t 7 of the 9 Supreme Court Justices appointed by Republicans??

There are less than 10 states that even have a death penalty for child rapists so Alito’s “potential emergence of a national consensus in favor of permitting the death penalty for child rape” isn’t factually true. Somehow Wooten always finds a way to blame Democrats. Usual for him.

By RenaP

June 26, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

We need prevention. We need to put more money into education, social services and try to prevent this from happening - not kill people as they do it. Where do we draw the line? Lets say a child is abused and raped from the time they come into this world. Then at the age of 15 they go out and abuse a child (or adult) and rape them. Then do we say oh well - that 15 year old should have known better. When something like that happens to a child they are so full of anger and hate they will go out and take their hate out on someone. What better way to take it out on someone than the way you were put to you lowest point in life.

There is a pattern that we need to stop. I wish so much that everyone that just goes home after work to their nicely furnish comfortable and secure homes with the security of their loved ones - would go out and volunteer at a center for abused children. There are children that are so used to be sexually abused that when they are public they play with themselves in public. Or they will just go up to another person and touch their private parts of their body. That’s what they know.

There is just no excuse for children to grow up like this world.

By hillbilly ragger

June 26, 2008 9:21 AM | Link to this

“BFKaJ”, weren’t you humiliated enough yesterday?

Isn’t it time to change socks?

BTW, somehow this Republic managed to limp along without having executed a criminal for a crime that hadn’t resulted in a victim’s death for forty four (44) years.

That you’re all having a collective sh!t-fit now doesn’t mean it’s an actual emergency, nor, Jim, does it mean that we need to elect another Republican in order to pack the Supreme Court with even more Federalist-Society-approved jerkwads.

By zeke

June 26, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this

If the impact of this decision as well as several others in the last several years does not cause any intelligent person to worry about the direction of the Supreme Court and the likely possibility that the next President may get to nominate 2 or even 3 new justices! If there is any intelligent voter who does not vote either for the conservative, or, more important, against the socialist liberal, then they will put a scourge of this same thinking upon us all, but, especially upon our children and granchildren!!!

By Churchill (d)

June 26, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

We should not execute men for child rape. They should be put in a cell with 3 VERY strong homosexuals who have AIDS, simple low cost fair solution.

By Peter

June 26, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

Jim needs to write a new column, something having to do with the lack of overall leadership in Washington, starting at the TOP.

Jim…… why would McCain, say he would get Bin Laden in his first TERM, while BUSH has failed to make it a priority in TWO TERMS?

By funbank

June 26, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this

I laugh at you quacks who always call the judiciary activists when an opinion doesn’t go your way. Remembering that the majority of the sitting justices were nominated by the last 3 republican presidents makes me wonder just what that means.

By Sabine Carbines

June 26, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

This is a very emotionally charged issue with complications and entanglements with at least a dozen legal bellweather cases pulling in a dozen different directions.

Wooten’s discussion was very respectful of the human suffering confounding any objective debate about this heartbreak.

Sexual abuse is as old and as common as sex itself. One in three females in the USA is molested. I dont know how many males. That’s a lot of molesters out there, people. That’s you and me. That’s our parents and our grandparents and our aunts and uncles, so lose the outrage, you righteous martyrs and saints.

Do we kill another human being with only a child’s sworn testimony?

A child’s testimony is unreliable. No reasonable person would execute another human being based on it.

Period.

It’s bad enough that the catholic church has been crucified about this issue for over a generation now.

But to read the casual deliberations of fools on this blog about such a tragic legal compromise is more than I can take.

Our laws evolve. We have the country we deserve.

By DjshT

June 26, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

why don’t the lib idiots here address the ruling instead of the politics? is it because they secretly rape children or hang with perverts who do? porny up pervs.

By Get Real

June 26, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this

Some of these posts act is if the criminal will be set free only to commit these sort of crimes again. These criminals still are serving life in prison with no chance of parole. Most will probably become victims of the same crime they committed while in jail, you know an eye for an eye. Republicans try to perceive themselves as always being the party of religion, but are always quick to throw the death penalty at everything. The prisoner will still serve the same sentence under this ruling.

No one on this earth has the authority to decide if someone should die or not, and agreeing with this ruling doesn’t make someone an appeaser of child rapists. Criminals will still be punished for their crime. Republicans should be more worried about all the criminal activity they’re involved with. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

By TW

June 26, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

Nowhere is the bankrupt, morally ignorant soul of the GOP more exposed than in their views on the death penalty. Any debate over this issue that excludes the family of the victim is only a self serving of faux testosterone.

Those who have worked with victims and their families say the best healing occurs when the process of forgiveness is allowed to flourish.

Drag the offender behind a truck. Soak him in gas and burn him at the stake. Lethal injection, gas, firing squad – who cares?

The victim and the family should be society’s primary concern.

Instead, the rightwing jumps like an ignorant child screaming for vengeance – yet another chance to play tough guy with no chance of a return blow (kinda like playin’ war, or gangin’ up on a Mexican).

As long as ‘forgiveness’ and ‘others’ remain foreign concepts to the right, an issue like this will continue to be about the wrong thing.

God help the GOP, for they know not what they do.

By j bm is a condescending...

June 26, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

The opinion is not about protecting child rapists. No amount of sophistry on the part of j bm will change that. Child rapists can, will and should be prosecuted. I agree the court went too far in absolutely forbidding execution in every case, but the decision doesn’t legalize child rape. By the way, j bm, any outrage at the other criminal decision yesterday that bars the admission of prior police statements by domestic violence victims at the trial of their abuser for murder? That one was written by old Antonin and seems to me to have a much more serious effect on criminal prosecutions, considering the much larger volume of domestic abuse cases in this country. What say ye, sham counselor? Jim? Any outrage there? Or just more prostrating at the altar of Antonin and Clarence?

By Peter

June 26, 2008 9:49 AM | Link to this

Hey DjshT……..we save the sick stuff for the Republicans who play footsy in the mens bathrooms!

By Copyleft

June 26, 2008 9:53 AM | Link to this

I’m glad to address the ruling. The reasoning is sound; I agree with it.

And no, locking someone up for life isn’t “protecting them,” favoring them, or “making the world safe” for them, as BFK likes to pretend. It’s punishment for committing a crime.

Maybe YOUR personal bloodlust isn’t satisfied with the penultimate penalty, but justice is.

By Noelle

June 26, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

I am against the death penalty, but not because I don’t think some people deserve it (if anyone does, child rapists certainly do). I have two primary reasons.

The first reason is the rising number of convicted criminals who have been freed in recent years based on new technology such as improved DNA processing. How many people have we killed in the past based on faulty evidence? And what future technological discoveries might exonerate even more?

The second reason is basic economics. Jailing someone for life without parole is nearly always less expensive than prosecuting a death penalty case, keeping a prisoner on death row, and then executing him. Case in point: Brian Nichols. He’s willing to go to prison for the rest of his life, but Paul Howard would rather spend our tax dollars on Nichols’ defense so he can cling to a capital murder case. Again, if anyone deserves the death penalty, Nichols certainly does, but is it worth bankrupting the government over it?

By Dennis

June 26, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

Mr. Wooten writes, “Now ask again: What are the stakes in this presidential election? Two or three of those who joined Kennedy are expected to retire over the next eight years.”

Because the Supreme Court has become just another political office rather than a position that decides issues by the use of ethics rather than politics, I would like to hope that we can get a more “moral majority”, although I’ll not hold my breath for that.

Indeed, whatever the criminal case may be, Alito, Thomas, Roberts and Scalia (in particular) seem to have their minds made up on the basis of their ethics(?), and then go scouting to find laws that uphold their own particular idealogies.

As to the death penality, my my, Mr. Wooten, aren’t we looking for blood - another rightwing idealogy.

You write, “The five members who prevailed had a conclusion in mind — and found a “national consensus” route to get there.”

Well…perhaps you’d have prefered a “political consensus” to get there, one that says “KILL HIM!”

You don’t have to be a blind conservative not to see it, just an ignorant one to deny it.

By George Washington

June 26, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

Oh Woody - and the beat goes on: “Palm Beach Post To Cut 300 Jobs Wed Jun 25, 2008 at 11:40:04 AM It’s been a long time coming, but Palm Beach Post publisher Doug Franklin handed down the bad news today (thanks to Pulp readers for posting it). Bottom line:

— 300 jobs will be cut company-wide. — 130 newsroom jobs will be cut. — Buyouts are being offered to employees with at least five years vested in the pension plan.

This is worse than expected (100 newsroom jobs had been floated here a couple of times). It’s gut-wrenching. Here’s the memo:

June 25, 2008 To: All Employees of Palm Beach Newspapers, Inc. Re: Reduction in Workforce Plans

I am writing today to advise you of the changes that will begin taking place throughout our company this week.

Our plan is to reduce our workforce of 1,350 by more than 300 full-time equivalent positions across The Palm Beach Post, Florida Pennysaver, and La Palma. The Palm Beach Daily News will not be affected. The reductions will impact most departments throughout the company, as well as most levels in the organization. Roughly 130 of these reductions will come from The Post’s newsroom; with more than 60 each in Advertising and Production, and more than 40 in Circulation. Roughly 80 positions throughout the company are already vacant through attrition, and many of these open positions will be eliminated to help us achieve the needed staff reduction.

The first phase of this workforce reduction will be a voluntary separation plan offered to most employees with a minimum of five years of pension vesting service. The voluntary offers may be limited in certain departments based on business needs. After we see the number of volunteers, we may limit departures in some departments to avoid disrupting essential services. We hope the voluntary phase of our plan will account for most of the necessary reductions. After the voluntary effort, we will move to involuntary staffing reductions in August to reach the appropriate staffing levels.

We have said often in recent weeks that we need to become a smaller company. This is a time of great change, challenge and uncertainty in our business; and the steps we are about to take are indeed difficult and painful to make. But they are necessary changes if we are to remain a strong and profitable company. A prolonged slump in our advertising revenues, increased competition from the internet, and an overall difficult economic environment have combined to make this type of cost reduction necessary. This is indeed an economic ‘perfect storm.’

Since April 1, we have been working on plans to make our company more efficient and more nimble. You’ve no doubt seen the many changes and consolidations that have been taking place throughout the newspaper to conserve increasingly costly newsprint. In addition, we’ll soon merge the Classified Call Centers, Ad Make-up and Ad Art departments of The Palm Beach Post and Florida Pennysaver. We’re also looking at opportunities to close or consolidate some of our buildings in the market, evaluating new partnerships for both printing and distributing of some of our products, and exploring ways to generate more profitable revenue through advertising pricing discipline and innovation. In addition, for all employees of PBNI, we will be evaluating the possibility of foregoing salary increases in 2009. These are but a few of the steps we’ll take to accelerate our transition back to profitability in 2009.

I recognize that this memo represents the “bad news” many of you have been expecting for some time, and I am sorry that we have been unable to share the specifics of the plan before today. We have all worked diligently over these past two years to offset our revenue losses by reducing payroll and operating expenses where we could, but this has simply not proven to be enough. We are among the last metro newspaper companies in Florida to announce staff reductions. We now face the reality of saying “good-byes” to many of our loyal friends and colleagues who have served PBNI so well.

We should take this opportunity to salute our past, and recognize the many successes that we’ve shared in recent years as a result of the hard work and dedication of so many people here. We’ve been blessed with fabulous resources and great latitude to do our work-probably more than we should have expected for a newspaper of our size. We took those resources and produced a great slate of products with them-and this is something that we can be proud of forever. None of this would have been possible without many talented people working together to create the greatness we achieved.

We are, and will remain, the #1 multi-media option for our advertising customers, readers, and website visitors in our market. Despite our current revenue challenges, I am quite certain that when we come through this difficult period, we will be better poised to take advantage of the rebound this marketplace is sure to enjoy. We continue to live and work in a growth market with a great up-side. Our websites are experiencing record page view growth. Despite the declines in print circulation in recent years, our total audience in print and online is stable and growing. We’re investing in niche products, and will continue to explore new ways to capture new audiences.

For those employees eligible for the Voluntary Separation Program, your department head will have a schedule of when and where the individual information packets will be distributed. This will be available to you today. I ask for your cooperation as we move through this process as swiftly as possible. If you have additional questions, please feel free to contact me or Linda Murphy in Human Resources.

I thank you for your patience over these past few months, and look forward to better days ahead. To those who will be leaving us, we remain committed to going about this difficult process in a caring and compassionate way.”

By ron

June 26, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this

Good morning,I’ll go with the five on this decision.I don’t see the death penalty as appropriate.Child rape is a serious crime and should be dealt with by life imprisonment with no chance of parole.A 5-4 split is not a lock on this issue though.It will be back.

By Sabine Carbines

June 26, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Can we legally form laws to punish the human condition?

Beware the ones who object too much or act too offended by child molestation. Child porn is big business. Doctors lawyers and the very rich travel to vietnam to hire child prostitutes. NBC has ambushed several of these guys and they’re all GOP stall worts.

Stallwort! Sen Craig’s a stall wort, get it?

Lets see, you wouldn’t tap for a child, they wouldn’t get it, I wonder what sen craig would do in the little boy’s room? Candy? the lost doggy gag? Flash and run?

The GOP. Hide your children.

McCain 08: Yeah, he’s on top of this.

Sen Craig is a stallwart GOP stall wort. That’s really good. Wow.

By Sabine Carbines

June 26, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

Sen Craig is a stallwart GOP stall wort.

By GOPs got to go

June 26, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

I still say I am in favor of medical castration with the use of female hormones on ALL repeat offenders in rape cases.

By DaveD

June 26, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

Only TWO child rapists have been given the death sentence and executed. Do you think that the death penalty deters ANYONE from commiting ANY crime? Someone that has the “intent” to rape a child, or kill someone is going to do it any way. Sad? YES! But the death penalty has not reduced murder or the rape of a child.

The laws we have are in place to STOP people from commiting a crime. It is quite obvious that with the amount of children molested in this country that the death penalty has not stopped one single person from doing that horrible act. These people are sick. They don’t “rationalize” when they are about to commit their crime.

You want them dead? That’s one thing, but do not think that having a law that says child rapists should get death will stop one single rape. it will not. There has to be a better answer. The death penalty has not worked to stop crime.

Funny how those who scream LOUDEST in favor of the death penalty when it comes to the taking of one’s life for commiting a crime, always preach about “the sanctity of life”…that ALL life is sacrid… that those “unborn” need protection… but a human life that commits a crime is one to be ended. Because of your “talibangelical” views…you are no better than those over in Saudi Arabia… you both believe in false gods and and after life. Stop worrying about the “next” life and start caring about this one. Do not become as bad as those “over there in Saudi Arabia (you know…the country that has 15 of the 19 hijackers that actually DID kill our citizens on 9-11), and think that our war on terror is being faught justly. If it was, we would have gone over to Saudi Arabia and wiped them off the map. But nope, the Bush/Cheney connects go way too deep over there…same with all the other neo-cons.

The death penalty is a failure. Give me a better idea…..

By ron

June 26, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

Twice in one day I get to agree with the majority of five.Isn’t that just a nice day? Now Mayor Franklin’s worst nightmare has happened.

By Sabine Carbines

June 26, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this

CNN has just reported that the Dupedcreme Court has reversed it’s decision: They now find that Sen. Craig is a stallwart GOP stall wort.

Sen Craig is a stallwart GOP stall wort.

Man, that just doesn’t get old. That one’s gonna be around for a looooong time.

By Jason

June 26, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

I am outraged at our government protecting child rapist from the death penalty! Cruel and unusual punishment is what happens to the victims not the criminals. If our government wants to tell me that those perverts are not worthy of death, but helpless, unborn babies are, then our Federal government can go straight to Hell!!!! If our government tries to force their evil perverted views on us than it is time for Georgia to reject all Government aid and maybe withdraw from the Union all together!!

If any politition wants my support they better fight this lack of justice!

By Chicago

June 26, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Hey Wootie, how about you writing a post on how Bush appeased to N. Korea on taking them off the terror list and lifting sanctions against them. Bush is an appeaser.

By Jason

June 26, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

I am outraged at our government protecting child rapist from the death penalty! Cruel and unusual punishment is what happens to the victims not the criminals. If our government wants to tell me that those perverts are not worthy of death, but helpless, unborn babies are, then our Federal government can go straight to Hell!!!! If our government tries to force their evil perverted views on us than it is time for Georgia to reject all Government aid and maybe withdraw from the Union all together!!

If any politition wants my support they better fight this lack of justice!

By swolf4810

June 26, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

If we can’t execute child-rapists then we dammed well ought to be able to castrate and emasculate them so they can’t ever do it again.

By BKFaJ

June 26, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Good morning all. I have not decided what I think about the REPUBLICAN-APPOINTED lefty court protecting child rapists, but I promise to let you know when I decide. I might decide to no longer support Republicans, since they are child rapers, and I am getting too old for that sort of thing now. I know you wait daily to hear my opinion, and that no other opinion matters to you. Wait a little longer, lefty scum.

On top of Boumediene and Kelo, one would think even lefties would be unhappy with the state of their ideology, but not as unhappy as I am realizing the rightist righty tighty whiteys I f-llate on the blog everyday have been violating the sanctity of childhood orifaces. I hate myself, but cannot blame myself, so I will of course blame Clinton, Janet Reno, and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the baby’ daddy of all welfare queen babies who should have been aborted so we could send mommy to the electric chair for the crimes.

Busy this morning filling out billing sheets for clients who are stupid enough to pay $450 an hour for me to educate the rest of you on this forum of intellect. I will commence administering beatings to my staff after that. They like it. Actually, I only hire sl-uts to work in my office that like that sort of thing. I can’t kill kill kill the way I want, but I can beat, beat, beat! Ahhhhh. YESSSSS! Did we mention this is about protecting child rapists? I am a lawyer. That’s what I do.

By George Washington

June 26, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

Well, ah sold my USO etf last Monday at 111.21 bucks a share, and today the price has risen to 111.83: My re entry point was back at the 99 bucks I originally paid…Guess I should have moved the buy back point to 107….Oh well, Global hyperinflation in the essentials of daily living is beginning….Last time that happened, Spain had just flooded Europe with Gold from the America’s….today, it is America that has flooded the world with funny looking green paper….This is gonna be interesting, a hyperinflationary Depression here in America….oil, coal, steal, wheat, corn, all are in short supply and running north in price, meanwhile New York is projected to cut 175,000 high paying financial jobs this year…so non essentials will not sell….Dow Chemical by July will have raised prices across the board by ~50% for a wide range of chemicals used to make stuff we consider essential, plus that are adding a fuel surcharge for delivery….The big three automakers soon will disappear, and with them hundreds of thousands of high paid jobs…..Oh yeah, just wait till you see your electric bills in August and September….now that’s gonna be funny….You can thank the Chimp and the neoclowns, who played war while these macro events developed….Imagine the resources that went into building 10 million CEO mini mansions having been used to build another dozen refineries capable of processing heavy sour crude oil into gasoline, diesel, and home heating oil….tens of thousands of the over priced Florida condo’s were purchased by people right here in Atlanta, who thought the price could only go up….Now they are stuck paying high mortgage debt, and rising condo fees….YET THE AJC URINAL IGNORES THESE MEGA TRENDS AND UNFOLDING DISASTERS TO FOCUS ON THE FIRST HAG PRESIDENT, OR THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN PRESIDENT, OR BUSH iii…..No wonder newspapers are dinosours, soon to be extint….The story of rising costs and falling circulation is available from the urinal’s own printing plant in the rising cost of newsprint paper, and the falling number of copies printed….plus the rising cost of fuel for door to door delivery….Well, back to oil and gas speculation, I am considering buying into UGA, the unleaded gasoline ETF….

By Jason

June 26, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

It’s time for a REVOLUTION !!!! Grab your guns men !!! It’s time to clean house !! Death to all rapists and the people who protect them!!!!! Burn in Hell !!!!!!

By Well

June 26, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this

I’m a republican and I think the death penalty should be considered only for crimes where a life was taken. That doesn’t mean I don’t want strong punishment for child rapists and I think the world would be better off without these people. But the death penalty should be reserved for the taking of a life. There are other ways to keep child predators off the street. And I don’t think this opinion makes me soft on crime or liberal. I think the Court made the correct decision.

By DaveD

June 26, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

BFKaJ, If you truly are a lawyer (though I doubt it), I am sure you graduated at the bottom of your class and attended law school in Nigeria.

Ahhhh..but actually thinking now…you would never set foot in the that country as you are of the mind-set that Africans are “less” qualified with regards to being humans than we.

You know nothing of the law, nor do you have a “rational” thought process. You are not a lawyer. Everything I know in this world, just even by looking at the very way you write tells me you are not.

You are a racist, a biggot, and uneducated as in the very way the world works. You did not even know until yesterday that 7 of the 9 Supreme Court Justices were put in place by Repulsivican administrations. Surely a lawyer would know that, you did not, you only brought it up today because someone pointed it out to you yesterday. You were obviously educated in GA. Worst schools in the nation. No, not all that were educated in GA are stupid, but the school systems all suck. The best schools in GA, don’t hold water when even compared to the worst schools in NYC.

If you are a lawyer…it’s obvious you have no work…as you sit online here all friggin’ day. $450 an hour? You write as if you’re a $7 an hour burger flipper….

By RealityKing

June 26, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

Both are now settled law. End of discussion..

By George Washington

June 26, 2008 11:07 AM | Link to this

Rape, Pillage, and Plunder: aren’t those Core Republican values?

By Jason

June 26, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this

Republican or Democrat, you are all a bunch of panty waist Liberals who have only bleeding hearts for the criminals. When it’s all said and done you will all spend eternity together. Have Fun!!! Remember to wear your sunscreen.

By George Washington

June 26, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Rev Jason, visions of hell ceased to scare me long about 3rd grade, and the 100th threat from the penguins to send me there….Today, the surviving members of the school’s penguin faculty live in abject poverty, most are insane, living in fear of their mental image of the alleged afterlife….and I am strong, healthy, and wealthy….go figure, huh….and I ain’t never given the church one red cent, and I never will…..

By DaveD

June 26, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

Jason… Tell the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus I said HI! :-) Funny how you believe in SOME things as fiction yet other things you believe as the truth…when there is NO PROOF nor rational human theory to show what you believe in to be true. What makes you think that “YOUR” god is the “one” and that all other gods are fantasy. Start caring about THIS world we spin upon and stop thinking that there in a next one.

Sad that there are so so sooooo many that believe a fable to be true…

By Matt

June 26, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this

I’m not so outraged by the decision of the Supreme Court, but I’m outraged by the method they used to justify their decision. Maybe I’m all wrong, but Supreme Court Justices are appointed for life because their job is to justify the constitutionality of decisions made by lower courts. This decision was made by “popular conscensious,” whether or not the majority of americans believe that child rape is a capital offense.

Isn’t that the job of our elected officials to determine approapriate punishment for crimes? These officials are elected by the people to be the voice of the people. Are Supreme Court Justices appointed to listen to the will of the people or to hold the higher ground and interpret the law based on their understanding of the law?

By j bm is a condescending...

June 26, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this

And the workplace shooting in KY yesterday highlights the wisdom of the Second Amendment decision today. Kevlar vests, anyone?

By American Justice?

June 26, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this

Jason, you’re a jerk and an idiot. No one here has said they approve of non-punishment of those who prey on children. Do you really need to pin a label on people and then LIE about them to feel better about yourself? FYI: many people oppose the death penalty (pay attention, Einstein, this concept requires you to follow along beyond your two-second attention span) NOT because we oppose death as a penalty, but because the American justice system has demonstrated that this penalty is applied unequally, and is, in too many cases, applied to the innocent. Dead men file no appeals, even when they’re innocent, and that’s just not the America we believe in.

So why don’t you stop making up lies about your fellow Americans before somebody accuses YOU of a crime and executes you? (Not that this country wouldn’t be a nicer place if you’d shut your big lying, judgmental, clueless yap.)

By Jason

June 26, 2008 11:36 AM | Link to this

Forsyth County Georgia had a law that every household must have a gun. For 15 years Forsyth had the lowest crime per capita of any place in the US. If everyone is armed then theives and rapist are out of business.

By Just Nasty and Mean

June 26, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this

G’mornin Jim, et al.

Would somebody please stand up and tell us all that child molesters are nothing more than human debris and refuse, unworthy of participation in sharing life, and a net-negative void sucking nutrients from the rest of society.

Why let them continue to—literally— burden everybody else in society?

It would benefit EVERYBODY to discard waste into a place where it no longer consumes space, food and air.

Just let them go back to where we all started—-dust.

By George Washington

June 26, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this

Fact: All hyperinflations end in the same way, in Depression…Now imaging a country, the usa, that enters the hyperinflation stage while already in a Depression….this is gonna be real ugly….the rest of the world is still growing…the way for the rest of the world to avoid this global hyperinflation is for them to stop accepting dollars, and to stop selling stuff to america, especially oil, coal, wheat, rice…..It is the dollar that is driving global inflation….of course, the world is sitting on trillions of dollars, and they want to protect their hard earned money….I expect a panic flight out of the dollar sooner rather than later…perhaps that is what the current run up in commodity prices is all about….I notice gold is running up today….

By little kid

June 26, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

Just nasty & mean touched me in a bad way. He doesn’t need a trial. I said so, and that’s enough to execute him. Mommy owes me five dollars now.

By DaveD

June 26, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

Yeah Jason…. And for many many years Forsyth County had an “un-written” law that African Americans were not allowed in the county after 6pm. Forsyth county is no model “county” with regards to law enforcement. To be honest, it’s history is tarnished with being one of the most racist places in this country. Why don’t you talk about those years? Daddy take you to very many Klan meetings? I’m sure he did. You’re a sad excuse for a human being. But if you grew up in Forsyth County, it explains SO very much.

Even if you did not..you are still of that mindset. You are the “worst” kind of TALIBANGELICAL..as you wish to fource your “fable” (meaning bible…I know you’re a bit slow) onto others and make it law.

You say you know law don’t you? The very degree you do not have is one in law. A diploma from a Forsyth county HS is as usefull in the rest of the world as toilet paper.

The more you write, the dumber you sound, the more I know that you are not a lawyer. . You should hook up with Dust Rag on here. Just don’t forget to use birth control. Your “breed” needs to stop doing just that breeding…

That’s OK…more of us Yankees moving in every single day…. Don’t forget you lost that war… nobody cares about it. Get over it. Read, learn and listen. Those are things you’ve failed to do in life. Turn of Fox news and stop listening to Rush and Hannity. Did not anyone tell you just how un-educated they are? Show me their degrees…. oooopppps! They don’t have degrees do they?

By Jason

June 26, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

There is always a small amount of injustices that are suffered when trying to enforce law and order. But, I would rather live with a few injustices than live in a completely lawless society. And that’s just about what we have today. Time to bring out the hangman!

By findog

June 26, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

Based on what the individual united states are doing to determine what constitutes the law of the land is intriguing. Should the 45 states without death to child rapist’s laws had thought it was justified then I conclude that the court would have ruled the other way.

However if that is to be the law of the land then we do not need the Supremes anymore; we just have a computer scour the official state codes and the majority wins.

The best thing about the gun ruling is not that the NRA can no longer cry about the jack-booted thugs of the ATF coming to take their pistols. It is that finally the nine primadonna’s have earned their keep and made a ruling unlike that contorted waste of paper that was Rapanos wetlands fiasco last year.

I don’t want a president that says he will appoint strict constructionists I want one that will appoint a judge that WILL make a ruling.

Here is something I would like to put out there off topic: campaign finance – if you do not opt in then a percentage [lets say 25 %] of your lump sum is transferred to your opponent.

Incentives to be good, like a lock just keep honest people honest, and make the system work.

By CJ

June 26, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

It’s a sad day when preachers of the Gospel have to walk in fear of reprisal, when a pervert pedophile has NO reason to fear. “Woe to him who calls evil good, and good evil” America, see ya…

By Keith

June 26, 2008 12:06 PM | Link to this

Yank this Dave !!!!!!!

By Maniac is accurate

June 26, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

This personality change is confusing. Is BKFaJ being jacked by Political Forebear or someone else? In everyone on this blog, except me, one person?

By Jason

June 26, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

There is a silent majority in America that is about to rise up! We are tired of being brainwashed by the liberal and perverted media. We want a conservative safe environment to raise our children. Were tired of seeing perverts on TV and tired of listening to all the people who sympathize with them. We want Christian men to lead our nation. Don’t forget that George W. Bush was elected by the Majority. The last election was a landslide! So why is it that we spend all of our time listening to the small group of perverted left wing liberals. Why don’t you and your child rapist friends go jump off a cliff!!

By ron

June 26, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Good afternoon Jim,The Supreme Court got two right Jim,two.That;s both.All of the above.Agood day for this country for a change.Kennedy’s fast becoming my favorite justice.A man who can actually think.A man not bound by his political cronies.Aman who ,more often than not,gets it right.

By steve

June 26, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

hey david d, the death penalty is not to prevent anyone from commiting a henious crime, It is PUNISHMENT for commiting a henious crime, with this courts ruleing we should place all child rapeist in the general population of the most brutal inmates in the prision system, justic will be done. and as far as protecting the unborn and putting to death an adult makeing us no better than the taliban in saudia arabia is about as stupid comment i have ever heard, you are a lost soul

By dusty

June 26, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

Eek, I’m about to scream!

The traitor, George W. Bush has capitulated on North Korea, and wants to unlift the sanctions. Next he’ll want to bring Fidel here, and give him a hug…Unseemly!

Brighter news my husband has been promoted to a Double Diamond Amway salesperson. To say the least the Dusty household is very exited.

I’m off to our lemon grove to pick some juicy lemons for our celebration tonight!

By ron

June 26, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this

DaveD,Never accuse a lawyer of rational thought.Abstract thought,DaveD,abstract thought.

By dirty harry

June 26, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

By Jason

June 26, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this

JASON..Save your bible thumping for Sunday! OK?

By Jason

June 26, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this

Death to all child rapists!! And why not start with the Catholic Priests? Do they think they are above the law?!!!! They sure as hell are not above God’s Law!
They’ll find out who’s right in the end! I Guarantee!

By The hammer

June 26, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

All the nay-sayers…. I want to hear your opinion after one of your children are brutally raped. I think the death penalty will be a light sentence if such an event (heaven forbid) occurred in your family.

By BFKaJ

June 26, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Dear Manic, the first post this morning was mine, as were all of those yesterday. No personality change, my first post was to mock my leftist friends, that’s all. It does appear that those who would protect child rapists from the supreme penalty are using every phony argument imaginable to justify their elitist view, that five leftists should be able to overrule the legislature of the state of Louisiana, with no sound basis. (I mean really, evolving standards - who are they kidding?)

Democrats - protecting child rapists since 2008.

Maybe there is some logic to the actions of the court - yesterday they said the STATE cannot execute child rapists, but today they affirm the everyone has an absolute right to own a gun. Maybe their message is clearer than I give credit?

By Get Real

June 26, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Jason, conservatives had almost 8 years to impose their hypocritical way of life and look what they gave us: Larry Craig, David Vitter, and Mark Foley. “Christian Men to lead our country.” Guys like Bush I guess.

This is a majority rising, and it’s about to kick all the Republicans out of office, and it ain’t silent!

By h

June 26, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

Wow, Jason. That was quite a tirade. Interesting how you equate liberalism with child rapists. Nice.

I personally do not agree with the ruling, but I do believe that the ruling was not the Supreme court saying, “ok y’all, go out and rape children.” As has been mentioned here today, there is still punishment for these offenses. Just not death.

Jason, you state you are tired of seeing perverts on TV. Just which perverts would those be? Last time i checked Dish Network doesn’t have PTV - all Perverts all the time.

I would also argue that liberals and democrats are just as religious as our conservative friends. We just do not feel the need to judge everyone and force the whole world to conform to our beliefs or else they “go to hell.”

And answer me this, how does the death penalty conform to christian beliefs?

By Copyleft

June 26, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Democrats: protecting your rights since, well, pretty much always.

You have no logic for your absurd “argument,” BFK, and you’ve been unable to defend it when that fact has been pointed out.

Again, the right-wing nut loses… for all to see. Thanks for playing. (snicker)

By BFKaJ

June 26, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

Dear Get Real @ 12:38, all we conservatives ask is that Hussein embrace the child rapist decision.

By Kim Lovell

June 26, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this

I am disgusted by the ruling of the Supreme Court regarding child rape and capital punishment. As a survivor I can tell you the person that raped me when I was 9 years-old killed the person I was becoming. That girl is dead. I’ve carried a lifetime of burdens and internal conflict that I should have never have been given. For anyone who can not connect with people and their families should not represent the opinion of ‘the people’. They should be ashamed of themselves! This is the same thing as telling child rapist that, in some cases, the worst thing that will happen to them is that they will go to jail for the rest of their lives where they are housed, fed, medicated, given access to showers, books, and all the rest of the luxuries the rest of us pay for. I predict that rate of sexual rape on children will increase because of the idiots that made this decision!

By DaveD

June 26, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

BFKaJ, sorry, but the Supreme Court has a “REPUBLICAN” majority…so it is THEY (republicans) that protect child rapists (according to your faulty logic that is). Blame it on 7 out of 9 justices that were put in place by evil god worshiping pr!cks just like you.

Biggest place where child rapes happen in the USA? The South…the “bible belt”…explain that you talibangelicals….

More children are reported as “sexually abused” in the south east than in any other area of the country… tell me why that is so? tell me about that….

Southern men…hetro southern men…and the LARGEST and BIGGEST “convicted” child sex offenders. Those born and raised in the south. SO tell me…why is that? It’s a “fact”…

Tell me why you southern men like little girls and boys so much more than us “liberal yankees” from up north?

The South East USA is the child molestation “CAPITOL” of the country…

Just another thing that goes hand in hand with you low test scores and incest….

By j bm is a condescending...

June 26, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

Obama already condemned the decision, counselor?????? Time to get off the horse.

By Facts don't lie

June 26, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Republicans- Gave us W.

Republicans- Gave us Cheney

Republicans- Gave us Iraq

Republicans- Where’s bin Laden?

Republicans- Friends of Enron, Tyco, and Big Oil.

Republicans- $281 billion federal budget surplus the day W. was inaugurated. Today it is a $800 billion deficit.

Republicans- Claim small government but interfere on issues like Terry Schiavo.

Republicans- Ted Stevens, Larry Craig, and Mark Foley (forgot about him Get Real).

Republicans- Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.

Bush- Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in U.S. history.

Bush- First president to run and hide when the U.S. came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)

Bush- Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.

Bush- First president in U.S. history to order a U.S. attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.

Yeah when you have nothing positive to say about YOUR party or YOUR President, its easy to try and bring down the other guy.

Republicans- First president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record.

Bush- Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in U.S. history.

Bush- Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.

You’re entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

By cj

June 26, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

DaveD,

Maybe it’s because you Northern Liberal perverts don’t have enough of a conscience to tell on one another…what a crock! I was molested by a kid up north when I was small…it’s a VERY sexually progressive area. Nasty PORN all over the place, and this was in the 70’s!!

By getalife

June 26, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

“Obama backpedals on NAFTA; now he’s for it

Obama campaigned against NAFTA during the primaries. Now he’s backpedaling and reassuring Wall Street about that same policy. ”

“Daily Kos’ Moulitsas: Worried that Obama may be a spineless Democrat

“We may worry he is just another one of these spineless Democrats who are more afraid of controversy in doing the right thing than they are in actually doing the right thing.”

Tossed the fighter for another spineless dem.

Told ya.

By CJ

June 26, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

Kim,

You’re thinking with your left brain: liberal judges don’t DO that: they’re making these decisions based on ‘feelings’.

This ruling is what you get when you put a black robe on a pedophile: naturally, they’ll take up for one another!

By steve

June 26, 2008 1:16 PM | Link to this

DaveD, please correct me if I’m wrong. I understand that killing a child rapist does not necessarilly stopped others from committing this horrific crime. However, of the 2 person’s who were put to death, has either committed child abuse again?

By h

June 26, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

To Kim:

I am so sorry for what happened to you, and I agree with you that what happened does constitute a death. I agree.

However, at the moment emotional death does not register as a “death” in the eyes of the law. This ruling is not stating no punishment. Yes, I agree that our penal system needs some major overhaul, and I don’t agree that inmates should be given all those privledges they have. But it still is a prision, and they are still separated from society.

I do take issue with your last statement. I do not think that rapes will increase solely because of this decision. The sad fact is, that the punishment will not deter the crime in this case if someone is truly willing to do such a heinous thing.

By George Washington

June 26, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Ya’all have to forgive Jason, he is a reformed child rapist himself, and like all converts to the path of, eh, rightousness, he is a fanatic….having flashbacks on your days as a child rapist, Mr. Jason, does not justify kill other men for a crime that you committed…..Ah suggest you use that noose to free yourself of the guilt….and flashbacks….do they run in slo mo?….oil is still running up….

By CJ

June 26, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

All of you liberals who think that pedophiles got away with soul murder in the Old Testament, you’d better read again!

By DETAH TO LIBERALISM AND TREASONOUS SURRENDER MONKEYS

June 26, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this

@ DickheadDave … obviously recently discovering you yourself were the UNWANTED and GENETICALLY CHALLENGED product of a brutish child rape has made you a deeply embittered scumbag, which if nothing else is enormously entertaining for the rest of us.

One almost suspects (from the obsessive deranged tone of this sullen dogturd’s witless posts) that this is just another incarnation of the execrable redneKKKs NAMBLA - the should have been aborted yanKKKee - now up there despicably abusing kiddies in the surrender monkey child molestors paradise of VT, having been finally run out of Dixie a good while back.

YanKKKees are invariably utterly worthless nasal whining self absorbed scum that belong, en masse, back up north!!

Though smart and astute Republican yanKKKees are of course always very welcome!!

RedneKKKs NAMBLA ……. Look at the numbers of blacks (especially micky mouse racist spoils reverends and R Kelly types) and sick yanKKKee ACLU lawyers etc that abuse kids and collect child porn before you puke up your psychotic envious yanKKKee bile REdneKKKs NAMBLA!! John Wayne Gacy jr was a yanKKKee, as was Jeffrey Dharmer - who sadly missed out (dining) on you!!

By DEATH TO LIBERALISM AND TREASONOUS SURRENDER MONKEYS

June 26, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

@ DickheadDave … obviously recently discovering you yourself were the UNWANTED and GENETICALLY CHALLENGED product of a brutish child rape has made you a deeply embittered scumbag, which if nothing else is enormously entertaining for the rest of us.

One almost suspects (from the obsessive deranged tone of this sullen dogturd’s witless posts) that this is just another incarnation of the execrable redneKKKs NAMBLA - the should have been aborted yanKKKee - now up there despicably abusing kiddies in the surrender monkey child molestors paradise of VT, having been finally run out of Dixie a good while back.

YanKKKees are invariably utterly worthless nasal whining self absorbed scum that belong, en masse, back up north!!

Though smart and astute Republican yanKKKees are of course always very welcome!!

RedneKKKs NAMBLA ……. Look at the numbers of blacks (especially micky mouse racist spoils reverends and R Kelly types) and sick yanKKKee ACLU lawyers etc that abuse kids and collect child porn before you puke up your psychotic envious yanKKKee bile REdneKKKs NAMBLA!! John Wayne Gacy jr was a yanKKKee, as was Jeffrey Dharmer - who sadly missed out (dining) on you!!

By Maniac is accurate

June 26, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

Execution for a child rapist is not the correct punishment. The correct punishment is confinement, torture and medically applied paralysis below the waist.

Medically applied paralysis is most effectively applied with the dull side of an axe or a sledge hammer to the small of the back. The same effect can also be accomplished with a firearm, but the chance of complications resulting in a too-mercifully-soon death would be too great.

By Mrs. RepubLady

June 26, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Democrats - protecting child rapists since 2008.

WHY oh WHY did George Herbert Walker Bush and George W. Bush appoint LIBERAL DEMOCRATS to the Supreme Court? Why? OH, the humanity!!!

weeeping and wailing!

By getalife

June 26, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

“Top Republican VP Pick Approves Chemical Castration For Sex Offenders”

Vitter is scared.

By bucket lip lib

June 26, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

Well score one for the Supreme Court! Unlike Dumocrats, they actually believe in the US Constitution.

Sayeth Nanny Pelosi: “Washington D.C should continue to regulate guns.” Yep, a gun BAN really helped D.C., which is ranked 14th out of the top 50 metropolitan areas nationwide in per capita gun homicide rates - and that of course includes areas where guns are NOT banned/heavily regulated.

But that’s not all about the Constitutional caring liberal Dimocrats. The libs also hate free speech with that Fairness Doctrine nonsense.

You want to know what “Fair” is to a liberal Dimocrat? Watch Sunday morning talk shows. A classic example shows a round table with the AJC’s queen moonbat Cynthia Tucker, Geraldine Ferraro the former Dimocrat veep candidate who said that red states are nothing but flyover states (unless a disaster strikes, then the wretched liberals say Iowa means something - to trash Bush on), Joe Klein of that left wing rag Time, the host of the round table and former Democrat campaign adviser of Bill Clinton, George Stephanopoulos, and finally one lone moderate Republican, the Wall Street Journal’s George Will. <— THAT people is what “Fairness” is to the current kooks running the Left: 4 against 1.

You watch these morons on the left. You’ll see how Right I am down the road.

By Jason

June 26, 2008 1:47 P